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I'm offended by such a usage.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
And it's Thursday, June 2nd, 2011.
Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 309-er.
This is No Agenda.
New uses for my cucumbers here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gamma Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California.
Yay!
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I had something clever to say, wrote it down, and then lost it.
I'm John C. DeVore, actually.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
In the morning to you, John.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry, and all ships at sea and feet in the air.
And congratulations, Opa.
Yay!
You've contributed to a brand new human resource.
You're rich!
$9.1 million in the family.
We have another $9.1 million member of the extended household.
That's so nice.
Eric DeChille.
And you can congratulate him, people there in the chat room.
I had a French kid somehow.
I don't know how he managed this.
Henri.
Henri DeChille.
Henri.
Henri DeChille.
She's calling Henry, but it's spelled Henri.
Mimi must be beside herself.
She must be so happy.
Doesn't she like little goats?
Oh yeah, she's thrilled.
Doesn't she like little goats?
Goats and lambs and stuff and chickens, isn't she?
We don't have goats.
You know, goats has been on the agenda and it just has not happened because I think you need to wall them in because they jump.
I've had goats.
Next thing you know, you've got goats all over the neighborhood.
Goats are silly pets.
They're not very fun.
Goats are great.
They eat everything.
No, they're not great.
You can't pet them because they run away.
You can't ride them.
You can't ride them.
Trust me, I've tried.
I've tried to ride my goat.
And if you bend over, they give you one right in the butt.
Big time.
And it hurts.
Over you go.
And it hurts, too.
Ah, Johnny boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's nice.
We're very happy for you.
There's nothing like the joy of a new child.
And I bet you're so happy you're hundreds of miles away.
I'm hundreds.
I'm avoiding the props.
You've got to go up, though, man.
You've got to go up.
You've got to see the kid.
When are you going to go?
I'm going shortly.
Yeah, today, aren't you?
You're leaving today.
I know you are.
I'm reminded.
I think I was suggesting this, but no one wants to listen to me.
By the way, yeah, that's right.
No one wants to listen to you.
End of story.
They don't.
You got a clip about goats or kids?
Which one?
About kids.
Now these people, there's a story that ran, it's been running here and there, but it's about the genderless child.
Oh, okay.
So this family decides they just have a baby, and so they decide to make it genderless.
This is the stupidest story, by the way, I think I've collected for a long time.
Let's see.
Well, there it is.
ABC News.
It was on ABC Network News.
Breaking story.
I'm going to set this up.
Yeah, okay.
Before we go on with anything else.
But anyway, it was on ABC Network News.
And it starts off with this stupid story.
Then it continues on with a story about a YouTube video.
This is what network news has become.
Looking for cute YouTube videos.
Anyway, so this couple, and apparently this has happened before.
It's a fairly long report but very funny.
There's aspects of it being completely ludicrous because, you know, somebody, some expert comes and says, well, the child may have gender identity issues if this continues.
And it's like a baby.
Let me listen to the clip.
Enough set up.
We're going to turn now to a controversial decision by a mother and father to allow their baby to choose his or her own identity.
The couple won't say whether their new child is a boy or a girl, and they say with good reason, but so many others are not convinced of this, and here's Lindsay Davis.
A blonde-haired, blue-eyed, five-month-old baby named Storm.
We know all the basics about this baby, except whether it's a boy or girl.
The Canadian couple decided not to share Storm's sex because they want to allow the baby to develop without the constraints of gender stereotypes.
It's being kept so under wraps, not even the grandparents know if they have a granddaughter or grandson.
And ever since they said the gender of their baby is none of the world's business, suddenly the world not only wants to know, but feels entitled to criticize their parenting style.
I think it causes a lot of confusion, don't you think, for the child?
Baby Storm has caused a blizzard of criticism on the Internet, where bloggers are saying things like, our kids are now science experiments?
Sad.
And another example of where the world is heading, absolute stupidity.
But Kathy Witterick, Storm's mother, is defending their decision to keep the baby's private parts private.
In a letter to ABC News, she said the strong, lightning-fast, vitriolic response was a shock and that Storm will need to understand his, her own sex and gender to navigate this world.
The outcry has confirmed it.
Cheryl Killough Davis experienced a similar backlash earlier this year after allowing her five-year-old son to dress up as a princess for a preschool Halloween party.
But the big difference in that case, her son made the decision.
Storm didn't choose to be genderless.
The parents are making huge decisions for this child that can cause it to be ostracized, that can cause it to feel humiliated, to cause it to feel a lot of doubt and uncertainty about who it is.
This concept dates back to the 70s when X, a fabulous child story, appeared in Ms.
Magazine.
It's a fictional story about a baby who's raised not as a girl or boy, but as an X. The parents decide not to tell anyone whether X is a boy or girl.
Sound familiar?
And Lindsay, who's been covering the stories with us now, and you were telling me earlier that this is not the first couple to have done this.
There's actually a couple in Sweden who two years ago got a lot of publicity for the same thing with a child named Pop.
And it's basically the same premise, where they don't want society to assign a gender.
They want their child to have the freedom to choose.
And it's a couple years later.
Do we know yet?
We still don't know what Pop's gender is.
It is provocative.
Lindsay Davis, thanks so much.
You know, this is an agenda, John.
And I've been seeing this go.
This is two things.
One, this of course is what the New World Order elites really want us all to do, just to be mindless, genderless human resources.
That's just three things actually.
It's a fractal from the 70s story.
But more importantly, it's promotion for Lady Gaga's album Born This Way.
That's what this story is about.
It's a promotion for an album.
I like that connection.
It's a promotion for an album.
Yeah, well, that's what she's all about.
She's the same way, like the genderless...
Yeah, she has these kind of mutant dancers.
You can't tell if they're men or women or what.
Yeah.
I can't believe we opened the show with that.
That's an all-new low.
Well, you brought it up by bringing up the baby.
An all-new low.
There's a couple little things, subtle...
Things actually more subtle than the Lady Gaga observation, which I'm not going to argue against.
I think you may have stumbled onto something.
But for one thing, the arrogance of the parents, because the relationships with all their friends goes like this.
Oh, you had a new baby.
Is it a boy or a girl?
None of your business!
But I don't know which candies to put on the Rusk, whether it should be pink or blue.
And you have the Rusk issue.
And also, during the story, they had these quotes that they read.
These were like quotes from Twitter.
When does network news...
Yeah, I know, I know.
They're even reading hashtags.
I'm surprised she didn't say hashtag sad.
Because it's complete...
Well, Twitter dominated the news.
The biggest distraction of the week...
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
I just want to make a couple more last observations on this particular story.
One, the dad is never shown or mentioned.
And whether he is into this or not, I don't know.
But the woman is very, let's say...
Diesel Dyke, the mom, and I suspect that it's her idea.
But whatever the case, the story is just like an eye roller and then the analysis of it says, oh, the kid could have all kinds of, you know, the kid in Sweden is two years old.
He's still two or she is still two.
I mean, you're not going to have...
If the kid is 13 and this is still going on, then I'd say, yeah, maybe you should address it.
But what difference does it make?
Boy, girl, it's only a convenience at that point to know so you can just say they're a boy or dress them in blue or pink or who knows, who cares?
I think this story's overblown, but I think you're right.
It's a promotion for Lady Gaga.
It's nothing else.
The whole androgyny thing.
It's blatant.
So anyway, yes, the number one story.
Obviously you're going to have to talk about it.
We can talk about it before or after mentioning the executive producers.
I might want to get that out of the way first.
Okay.
Let's do Wiener first.
Because the producers, I don't want anyone feeling like they're responsible for this.
Now, of course, if you watch the news, or what is called the news...
And there's a couple of observations to be made about this.
First, we're talking about Anthony Weiner.
Now, we talked about this early on Sunday, as this was just coming, and we were already laughing about it then.
And I really didn't expect it to get any play because Anthony Weiner's a Democrat.
He's Chuck Schumer's boy.
But I think that there's a subtext going on here.
And, of course, most people will have seen by now, if you watch NoAgendaNewsNetwork.com, or if you watch some of the mainstream news, then you probably saw the CNN pieces.
CNN seemed to be over this the most.
Where Anthony Weiner is basically getting into a big huff.
With the CNN reporter and he calls the producer a jackass.
And they play these endless, endless clips.
I'm talking like four or five minutes of this stuff.
And they literally set it up.
Wolf Blitzer.
Literally setting it up with, this is long, but it's really interesting.
And then Anderson.
That's bad.
Anderson Vanderbilt.
You should never do that.
I got a joke that's hilarious.
You're going to laugh when you hear this one.
Yeah, exactly.
It's never funny.
And then Anderson Vanderbilt 360, who, by the way, you know, it's like he is so actually horny about this.
You can just see it.
His whole show was about this penis picture.
His whole show.
I swear.
Well, and where's keeping him honest, Anderson?
He's like, we're keeping him honest, but no hard-hitting questions here.
So, but here's...
You know what I have not seen?
What?
I have not seen the...
I know it's coming.
As soon as I suggest it, somebody will probably go out and do it.
I know that when George Bush was doing the debates and he had this thing in his back.
Yeah, the receiver.
And then you do photo enhancement using various filters.
You could bring out the details.
Yeah, how come no one's done that in Photoshop?
Where's the details on this thing?
On this monster.
This gnocca.
Which is Swahili for snake.
Okay, so of course we don't want to replay any of this stuff because it's...
I'll just give you my quick...
I do want to play replays.
I got one thing I want to play, but we'll do yours first.
Just let me say this.
After analyzing everything, and after Wiener came out yesterday with a whole new strategy, and now he can't say with certitude.
What a great word, by the way.
I mean, of all the words, I can't say with certitude that it is my picture of me.
I don't know what the deal is with it.
I'm going to tell you what happened.
It's a picture, it was on his Blackberry, and he made a mistake.
But instead of being a man and just owning up to it, he may not have, it doesn't matter who he sent it to, whatever.
The fact is he lied, and then he's backpedaling.
And of course our great technology press, looking at you, John, you know, if everyone is saying, oh, Twitter got hacked, Twitter got hacked, where's the technology press on the hackability of Twitter?
No one's talking about that.
Where's our great news organization seeing if Twitter is hackable?
Because, gee, if we all accept that Anthony Weiner's Twitter account was hacked, well, listen, douchebag Andy Carvin, maybe all those tweets you're passing on to our national treasure are hacked as well and aren't actually from people on the ground in the Arab Spring.
I don't think that technology pressure can be blamed for anything because everybody knows that you can get somebody's password by various methodologies.
It's not that big of a deal.
It wasn't technically hacked.
The word hacked is continuously used.
Well, actually, in the clip I have here you might want to play, which is Wiener trying to beg off.
He kind of discusses the word hacked in the Wiener vs.
Brett Baer, which is one of the interviews that was clipped a lot.
This is the whole interview, which is still clipped, but it's longer.
Yeah, we're not going to play all four minutes of this.
Are you out of your mind?
No, just play what you can until you get sick of it.
Wait, wait, wait, stop!
So, I want people to pay attention to one thing, because we're dealing with a major news network, what's their name, Fox, right?
Listen to the sound on, nobody mic'd Bayer!
You know, this is interesting, because CNN in the beginning had a problem and hadn't mic'd Weiner.
That's very interesting.
This is the low-budget kind of quality we now get on the networks.
Yeah, and when we clip it, it sounds even worse, people.
So could you please get it together so that we can have quality on our show?
We're concerned about saying anything definitively.
Pictures get manipulated.
Pictures get dropped into accounts.
And so we've asked an Internet security firm and a law firm to take a hard look at this and try to come up with a conclusion.
Hard look!
Hard look!
Yeah, he's completely moved this to, well, people always make jokes about Wiener.
I've grown up with Wiener jokes.
...about what happened and how we make sure it doesn't happen again.
Is there a picture out there of you in your drawers that you are worried about, that you can't defend and say that it's not you?
You know, we're here, we've been sitting down for a brief moment, you're already asking if there are pictures of me in my drawers.
I mean, look, I want to...
You invited us here.
Well, if there's you asked to interview me, and I'm doing the interview.
You invited all of the networks here to, I assume, clear up what was a very vague and evasive and combative meeting with reporters yesterday.
In fairness, I answered questions about this on Saturday.
Oh, please.
I can't listen to this.
I've heard all of this a million times.
It's all they're playing.
You've heard it, but our listeners may not have.
Are you kidding me?
What, are they living under a rock?
Everyone's heard this.
Okay, so here's the one you want to play then.
Oh, really?
You want me to just stop talking?
No.
I don't have a lot of other clips.
I know.
That's what's so sad.
I've got tons of other stuff because I was not being distracted by this.
I was distracted, but I was mostly distracted.
Wow, that's some big penis.
I'm distracted.
I don't know what to do.
I don't see whether it was big.
All I saw was just like, I don't know what, that's why I would like to see some enhancement.
I don't see a penis in there, just a lump.
It could have been a sock.
John, John, do you want to see some enhancement, really?
Are you okay?
No, I'm not really.
No, you're right.
I don't really want to.
I would think that somebody would have done that.
Because I have something that's actually interesting about this, but we'll play your O'Reilly clip.
Is this another wiener?
Is this another penis pun?
No, don't play the O'Reilly clip.
No, I'm going to play the O'Reilly clip.
No, I'm going to play the O'Reilly clip.
No, wait, stop, stop.
That needs to be set up, so just go on with whatever you got.
All right.
So, there is a throwback in all of this.
There was a movie, and I was hoping you might be able to remember it.
There was a movie in, maybe it was the late 70s, and there's this woman, she gets into big trouble, she's a government official, and she's lying about what happened, and it turns out at the end of the movie, after all of Congress and everyone signs off on it, it's okay, you can tell us who blew the whistle on you.
Prosecute this person.
It turns out it was her six-year-old daughter.
What was the name of that movie?
I never heard of such a movie.
See, I can't come up with it.
Some in the chat room will know.
So, there was a pretty valid thought out there.
That maybe he was covering up.
The six-year-old daughter took the picture?
Maybe he was covering for someone who did this.
They didn't want to get them involved, which I think is pretty valid.
And Wolf Blitzer, of all people in the world, actually asked, are you protecting someone?
His answer was interesting, but more interesting is...
He was protecting little Anthony.
This is a big federal issue.
Are you protecting anyone?
Yes.
So, who is it?
Now, this is where it gets interesting.
Protecting my wife, who every day is waking up to these insane stories.
So, last night, as I was scanning the airwaves, this story had been edited from its original version.
So, he talks about, you know, I'm protecting my wife, it's really horrible, but what I have here is the unedited version, do you know who Anthony Weiner's wife is?
Who?
That are getting so far from reality.
You know, we've been married less than a year.
To watch her watch these stories, get some crazier and crazier about what is essentially a prank, a hoax.
You know, we knew we went to bed that night not batting an eye.
This was a goofy thing that happened.
She married a congressman.
She knows a little something about living in public life.
She knows with that goes a certain amount of, you know, aggravation.
I don't think she imagined that it would be this.
These bizarre stories about people who are connected to me by eight or nine rings of connection on social media.
I'm protecting her the best I can.
I can handle myself.
These poor people who are getting dragged into this with these more and more bizarre conspiracy theories.
So here's where the edit occurred on the new CNN stories.
Here's the original.
When CNN puts this Breitbart guy down and says the most outlandish thing about complete innocent people.
You know, I can take the flack, but at some point when I say, you know what, I'm not going to do any more questions about that, it is to some degree to protect a certain amount of integrity to all of us, that we aren't in this place that we're constantly having this conversation about something that was essentially a prank.
I know your wife, Huma.
She's a great lady, and you're a very lucky guy to be married to her.
She works for the Secretary of State, has for a long time.
How is she handling all this?
Well, she's bemused.
You know, she's got some experience and she's not a public person, as you know.
I mean, she went the entire campaign in 2008 with probably most Americans not knowing that she was the traveling chief of staff to Hillary Clinton.
Now, why did they cut that out on CNN? Why did they play five minutes of bullshit, I'm sorry, excuse me, BS story And cut out the part where she is currently still working for the Secretary of State, was her Chief of Staff while she was traveling during the presidential elections.
I think it puts an angle on this that no one's looked at.
What's the angle though?
Techno-experts.
Techno experts.
All right, you got me on that.
That's a good one.
Techno experts.
Yeah, we need to keep that clip handy.
Hillary Clinton's got her techno experts.
And as Anthony Weiner himself said, you know, I tweet myself, but, you know, sometimes we hire a firm to do mass emails, and then they may do...
So his password is out there, okay?
This is no hack.
His password is out there.
Many people have it.
Hillary Clinton's State Department, she has techno experts.
They know how to do this stuff.
So maybe it was an inside prank?
Like, let's mess with the boss?
Or let's mess with someone else?
Because you know, the reason this was edited out of all subsequent airings of this is because Clinton called up and said, Hey!
I don't want any part of this!
Bill Clinton, by the way, presided over their wedding.
Anthony Weiner and his wife.
Well, let's put it this way.
He's got his tit in a ringer.
All right, let's thank some people who are probably going to be very embarrassed to be producers of this show, at least the opening part.
Not necessarily.
You're right.
We've got some good stuff coming up.
Yeah, we've got two executive producers and two associate executive producers for today's show.
And actually, curiously, and what's weird is that these two...
Execs.
Executive producers are both members of the 309 Club, and the curious part is that those donations came in almost simultaneously.
You know, it's nice that people are back on the club numbers, because we hadn't had that for a while.
Well, 309's a good number.
Yeah, and we have 333 coming up, everybody.
309-er club, I might point out.
So we have Sir Jordy Ramirez from Cancun.
Yo!
Living the life of Riley.
Hi again from Gitmo Nation Taco.
The donation's in commemoration of his 35th birthday.
And he needs a ring size changed to 9.5.
Is that big?
Well, I don't...
You know, that's the funny thing.
I see all these ring sizes and I don't...
I think that's Anthony Weiner's size, isn't it?
Sander, uh...
Sander...
Sir Sander...
Sir Sander...
Sander...
Hawksbergen...
Hawksbergen...
309, member of the 309 Club, just to support the fantastic show.
Thanks, Sander.
And then we have a couple of associate executive producers.
Emmanuel Lossier in Brossard, Quebec.
A new listener, I see.
A new donor.
A new donor.
Not too keen on letting PayPal draw money weekly, monthly on my account, so I'll try to contribute every once in a while.
Wish somebody would do the same as you do here in Quebec.
In the meantime, you're the ones getting my donation.
Wish somebody would do the same.
Oh, I see.
In other words, I guess.
Please keep up with the good work.
P.S. I'm highly critical of some of your views, but open-minded enough to hear them out, and it's worth $233.33, apparently, to...
To disagree.
Tim...
Excuse me for interrupting.
I'm reliably informed that Miss Mickey has size 8.
So size 9.2 whatever for a guy is not all that big.
Okay.
It's alright.
Yeah.
Tim Wichenski in Elkins, West Virginia.
A random hillbilly.
Which is what he should be.
Yeah!
The rule of Section 215 donations that you cannot discuss the name of the person giving the donation.
Well, I'm sorry that it wasn't put on the sheet.
But that's the second time we've called Random Hillbilly by some crazy Polish or slobby name.
We'll just keep changing his name.
Those are our executive producers for show 309.
Good job.
So the big news, of course, is that today not only did Eric DeShiel receive a new human resource, but the Knight and Dame rings should be in today.
Which is very exciting.
So we should have pictures and stuff, and he'll be sending them out as soon as the early morning feeding is done.
Yeah.
Then we have a number of domain name forwards that we're always highly appreciative of.
And, of course, now we are collecting these.
Simon Reid is keeping this all together at domains.nashownotes.com.
These are domain names that forward to noagendashow.com.
Osama bin Laden dnatest.com, which I thought was kind of nice.
This Week in Douche.com.
I feel a whole network coming on.
You know, we have This Week in Tech, This Week in Google, This Week in Startups, and now there's a new show, ThisWeekinDouche.com.
Screw...
What is this?
How does this screw the...
I don't even know how I pronounce this.
Oh, screwthesystem.info.
Okay.
Got that one.
Yeah, those are the domain name forwards.
There's a couple things I wanted to mention.
One, we have an ongoing design challenge for the show notes and the domain registry, as it were, at domains.nashownotes.com.
If you are any good at CSS, just go to the show notes.
Today will be 309.nashownotes.com.
And you can actually design that.
Did you see the 308 design, John?
Did you see what was done there?
No.
Oh, well, we got in honor of the WWDC Developers Conference for Apple.
We have a Steve Jobs theme for 308.com.
4308.nashownotes.com I forget who has podcastlicense.com, but I got an idea.
I think you and I were talking about it after the show.
And actually, I discussed this with my partner in crime who was at the beginning of the creation of podcasting.
Ooh, such a controversial statement.
Dave Weiner.
He says he doesn't want any part of any money.
He doesn't want any part of us, guys.
He doesn't want any part of it.
Forget it.
I said, dude, we're the ones that could hand out the podcast license.
He said, nah, I don't like asking for money from people.
He doesn't do anything like that.
That doesn't surprise me at all.
Once you get over that hump, it's not that hard.
So I'm thinking, why don't we actually do that?
If the person who owns podcastlicense.com could shoot me an email, then I need to have the A record set up.
And I think we should sell podcast licenses.
Maybe $33, John?
Is that a reasonable price?
$33.33?
Yeah, I think that would be a reasonable price.
And you will put your name right there on the page as an official licensed podcaster.
So when it comes around, and you have to have a license.
When the cops show up.
Yeah, because, excuse me, it's right here.
It's documented.
I have a podcast license.
I'm licensed to podcast.
Yeah, and all the ten podcasters that listen to our show will all get one of these licenses.
Now, we have extremely exciting news.
And even though it is not on the spreadsheet, there will be a nighting today, although it's a dame.
John, I think you probably caught this somewhere because the Twitters were more or less rampant with the information.
Maggie Vincent...
From Virginia has kindly offered her 30 foot RV for the Gitmo Nation Hot Pockets No Agenda Tour.
This is the part where you get really excited.
That's great!
You're such a dick!
What do you mean?
This is great!
This is fantastic!
I just said...
What did I say?
Nothing!
You just went...
Just assume that I'm like Dutch.
So, we were just blown away.
She said, look, I have this thing.
It's from 2003.
It's completely...
Perfect.
Working order.
Only like 10,000 miles on it.
She said, I'm not using it this summer.
Feel free to come pick it up.
Where is it?
In Virginia.
Fredericksburg.
So you have to fly.
So what you would do is fly to Virginia.
Yeah.
We're going to fly to Virginia.
And you get picked up by someone.
Well, Maggie says she'll pick us up at the airport.
And then you jump.
No, no, the sequence is not quite right.
We fly there.
She says, then we'll have a hot tub and martinis party to kick it off.
Then we have a hot tub and martinis.
Apparently she's got a hot tub.
I would make sure you get photos here.
By the way, just to complete my theory, she's a sysadmin.
Sysadmin saved the world once again.
So Maggie is kindly, and you can thank her and follow her at MaggieVincent on Twitter.
And so we're, as you can imagine, extremely excited about this.
She also thinks we should name it the Hot Pockets 2008 Tour.
So she's a true listener when you come up with something like that.
Here's our next little challenge, mini challenge.
We've got to find someone who has a shop, a reprographic shop.
Because that's what you want.
You want a reprographic.
We have to buy this, but reprographics are the guys who make the big giant posters and the billboards and all these big things.
And they can make a vinyl, a temporary stick-on vinyl, kind of a poster for the side of the thing that can be just removed when you're done so that you're not painting the thing or destroying it.
Sarah Palins has done with one of these reprographic operations.
Her face or her van?
That van, that she's got a van very...
She's got a van very similar to the one you're in.
It's not a van, dude.
It's a 30-foot RV with brown and gray water, whatever that means.
But we have to look out for it.
She has a 120-foot bus.
But anyway, besides the point, she's got this huge bus with the Sarah Palin graphics all over it, which was really nicely done.
Because you have to realize that to put this stuff on, do you see it on buses?
I think we should have a big picture of Anthony Weiner's boxers on the side.
You know, I think it's such a vague photo.
Maybe it was enhanced.
So anyway.
Get CSI on it.
Yeah, we'll get one of those.
Absolutely.
We'll get one of those vinyl stickers.
With the noagendashow.com, that's got to be the biggest thing, and that would be on the side.
And then off you go.
So obviously, when you look at value for value, this is huge.
So I think we may even have to make her a baroness and not just a dame.
What do you think?
I think that's probably not a bad idea.
Or high priestess is another one we could do.
She'll have the state of Virginia.
She'll have the state of Virginia.
You know what?
We make her a baroness and she gets the state of Virginia.
Now, on that note, Miss Mickey and I today initiate our test.
We have rented a 27-foot RV. We're picking it up today, and we leave either tonight or early tomorrow morning.
And we're not quite sure which direction we're going, but we will drive.
Go to Palm Springs, I keep telling you.
It's funny you say that, because the idea is to go to Palm Springs and loop back through Death Valley.
And Sunday morning, the show will emanate from the test vehicle.
So, you know, this is a full-on test to see how everything works.
You know, we've got to get our feet wet in driving and understanding this gray-brown water thing.
So I have to say I'm...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's a tough one.
I'm very excited about that.
So, well, you'd be surprised how much brown water those things will carry.
So, let me just make a point here for you.
I took one of these things on a very long trip with a wife and kids, and I would say that after about a week, Being on the road in one of these little devices.
The one I had was similar to the size you're getting.
Yours might be a little bigger.
It's pretty big, that one.
30 foot's pretty big.
Yeah, it's huge.
Imagine a 30 foot yacht.
Yeah, it's big.
This is a long thing.
By about day 8, day 9, I'm guessing, I could be wrong, you'll be coming to blows.
Well, every step of this trip is going to be documented.
Eric the Shield will be the back office.
You'll be able to follow our GPS track, which will be delayed.
So we also want to have some privacy.
So we don't have enemies of the show coming to kill us.
But what's really nice is, since this news of the Hot Pockets vehicle has come out, we've received even more invitations.
And remember, you can email mickey at curry.com, M-I-C-K-Y. She's the keeper of all the info of the trip.
And here's just one that she forwarded to me from Mike, a wage slave formerly known as Mike from Colorado.
And he's welcoming us to his home.
By the way, everyone says, you know, park in my driveway, steal my Wi-Fi, swap my wife.
I mean, all this great stuff is coming up.
Denver, of course, home of the Denver Federal Center.
Suppose the new headquarters of the CIA is a federal employee.
I have access.
Would you like a tour?
Also, the telecom building at 14th Street and Champa in downtown routes nearly all internet traffic to the West Coast through the Midwest.
It's been said that if that building were to be destroyed, most of the Western United States would lose all internet access.
So we're probably going to go visit Mike, but it's really, really nice.
Everywhere in the country, people are offering hospitality, and we really look forward to it.
And of course, we will need continuous support for the show as we roll throughout the Gitmo Nation states.
If there's any ideas...
That you have in regards to that.
Those are also welcome.
So just very excited.
And it's going to be great.
And we're also going to do a...
Miss Mickey's going to do a photo book, which if we can find a reasonably inexpensive way to produce it, we'd love to...
Call the ring guys.
See if they can help.
No, ring guys.
Forget them.
There's a lot of good book printers in China.
All the books now, all those photo books that you're talking about, are all done in China.
Like the Tashin books?
Are those done in China?
I don't know.
Are they?
I don't know.
That's what I'm asking.
They got the big butt books, $65.
How can you make that book for $65?
I don't understand.
It's made in China.
Programming note, Tuesday, 11 a.m.
Gitmo Nation West Time on the stream.
Write it down in your calendar.
I will be interviewing presidential candidate Gary Johnson on the show.
I guess someone from his camp heard us talking about it and got in touch with me and said, hey, we'd love to have the governor of New Mexico on the show.
I said, well, he's not going to be on the show, but here's what we'll do.
We'll We'll talk for as long as the governor has time, like we did with Ron Paul at the time.
And we'll stream it live, and we might use a clip or two from the show, but we'll also put the interview out as a full podcast.
So, hey man, I think that's kind of interesting.
Yeah, so people have to realize we don't do guests on this show.
No, we don't.
We don't.
Just two guys talking.
But I think it'll be, well, it'll just be me and Gary Johnson talking, which I think will be fun.
Well, why don't you, you know, you could use that as a whole show if you can talk to him for two and a half hours.
Hey, could you just send him the bell?
Hey, Garrett, can you bring some clips?
Some clips and bring a slide whistle.
And one of these things.
You're hired.
You're hired.
It should be fun.
And if you've got any questions, email them to me.
You know how I do interviews.
I just ask the guy a question and let him talk.
I'm not going to force him in.
I'm not going to be confrontational.
All I want to know is how he's going to pay for it all.
I'm going to take some money from some banks, like Obama.
What are you going to do?
Of course he is.
Well, if he's serious about it.
I just give it out to everybody.
They don't show real favoritism until near the end when they know who's going to win.
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What am I trying to say?
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It's just as official as a Hollywood credit.
It's a real Hollywood credit.
Oh, yeah, and we won't screw you by telling you we never heard of you.
Yeah, no, we'll actually vouch for you.
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Everybody else out there, what you can do to support is propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out...
We hit people in the mouth.
And say it loud and cry to everybody.
Shut up, sleep.
So, Lucifer was in Paris.
Lucifer.
Oh, why?
She needed a trim?
And she's wearing this outrageous yellow outfit, our dear Lucifer Hillary Clinton.
And, you know, I love it when she goes on tour and she does interviews with foreign press.
Because that's when she starts to, you know, get kind of like, she slips up a little bit.
Well, she thinks it's like nobody's paying attention here.
Nobody's paying attention, exactly.
And she's in the mood, she's in France, she's shopping, she's buying shoes, getting her hair done, getting a new dress.
Well, that's not true.
That's not true.
It's not true.
She has no time.
So she's interviewed by...
She's walking around.
She's on the Champs-Élysées.
She...
I got a couple of different clips here, which is just too hilarious.
She was interviewed by this gorgeous woman from ETF1, I guess, which is the French television.
And the woman is gorgeous.
The Russians could take note for Russia Today.
Russians gotta get their act together.
But she literally, in the interview, Hillary would answer a question, then it would be like a three second pause.
The woman would look down at her paper and read the next question and then look up.
It was like, wow, really?
But Hillary actually, she threw another one at us.
If you're in Paris, you're in Paris, that was all the elites, you must talk like the elites.
What do you call it when you fly a mission?
With jets.
What is that called?
Isn't that a sortie?
Mission?
A sortie?
Oh, a sortie, yeah.
It could be a sortie.
No, you're wrong.
And the ability to withstand the pounding they took from Qaddafi's forces in Misrata was a real turning point.
And we believe that with the increased military tempo that has been going on, and the United States still flies 25% of every day's sorties.
It's a sortie!
It's a sortie!
So how many sortés did you fly today?
It's a sorté.
Oh, really, Lucifer?
It's a sorté.
So, of course, with every interview, the question pops up.
The number one question, because all these idiots can ask is, about this picture, the picture of you in the Situation Room.
The picture.
So she keeps changing her answer.
What have we heard so far about the picture?
We've heard she had to cough...
We heard she had to sneeze.
We heard she had to yawn.
We've heard every single variation from her.
Well, yawn was ours.
Okay, but cough and sneeze.
And the only consistent part of her answer is that it was 38 minutes.
38 minutes.
It was the most intense 38 minutes.
Well, she has a new variation of the answer.
And by the way, now she's hanging out in Paris and I have my yellow outfit on.
About Osama Ben Landon, can I show you this picture?
You know it.
It's in the Situation Room.
Yes, I remember.
I saw that picture.
I didn't know it was being taken at the time.
Oh, I saw the picture!
I didn't know it was taken at the time, the sortie.
I saw it later.
So you are holding your hand in front of your mouth.
Yes, yes.
What did you think at that moment?
Were you frightened?
What did you see?
Were you frightened?
What did you see?
I don't know how to describe it other than it was a very intense period.
The operation went on for 38 minutes.
And we all, as you can look at the expressions on everyone's face, had been working on this with a very small group of top officials for months.
Months?
Then it was out of our hands.
The very well-trained Special Forces Navy SEALs were going to carry out the mission.
And it was a breath-holding moment.
She's holding her breath.
This is a new one, John.
For 38 minutes.
She's holding her breath.
She can do that, by the way.
By the way.
She's holding her breath.
You know, there's something about the 38-minute meme that I'm not sure what that's about.
Yeah, there's something in there.
But it's bullcrap.
Because most of you say, well, it was a good half hour or it was over a half hour.
Why would it be so...
Two reasons.
Two reasons.
First of all, if you add 3 plus 8, it's 11.
So it's a magic number.
Second of all...
I'm sure that somewhere in the timeline, and we'll probably see this in the future, there will be a reason because someone wasn't there, or someone had to be somewhere, or there's someone who has to be placed at a certain time somewhere.
This is what always happens in the novels.
So somewhere in the script, this comes back, this 38 minutes.
You watch.
Put it in your book.
Put it in the prediction book.
Most definitely, I'm going to grab the red book of predictions.
Yes.
Meanwhile, while you write that down, let us just hear Madame Lucifer Cliton talking about how much she loves Paris and, oh, she has no time.
Being between France and America.
Oh, you know, I think you are our oldest...
Oh, hold on a second.
That was the wrong one.
This is about...
This is a good one, too.
This is about...
Do we have a problem with the French because the French are all angry about Afghanistan?
Now, I'll remind you...
I'll remind you...
What did we...
When the French were, like, balking at Afghanistan, what did we do in this country?
We renamed French fries to Freedom Fries.
Can y'all remember that?
We don't like the French.
Do we, John?
Do we have like some...
Well, we traditionally, politically, don't like the French.
Oh, are you nuts?
That's not what Hillary Clinton says.
The thing between the French and the America...
Oh, you know, I think you are our oldest ally.
You were there for us back in the Revolutionary War, and there's wonderful reports from the French court by Benjamin Franklin, and then our revolutions were within years of each other, our commitments to human rights and human freedom,
our aspirations, our No two people agree on everything, and certainly no two great nations can agree on everything, but the relationship between France and the United States is deep, broad, enduring, and one that I highly value.
Yes, look, I did not even shave my armpits just because I love you so much, France.
What a bunch of hooey.
That's not true.
I'm surprised that somebody in the French said didn't call him on that Freedom Fries bull crap.
Well, it's so obvious.
And so she lets a couple things slip up.
So Christine Lagarde, my obvious choice as per the prediction book for a head of the IMF, Well, you mean the one, what's her name again?
From Egypt?
Is that what you're saying?
Is it a prediction of yours?
No, I changed my prediction.
I'm allowed to change my prediction.
I did that last time.
I said, please change the prediction.
You dropped Egypt, but you did not mention Lagarde.
What are you talking about?
I said this two shows ago.
I said I dropped Egypt, and I said Lagarde is in because she ran a law firm in Chicago.
You don't recall that whole conversation?
I remember that, but I don't remember it being an official prediction.
It's not in the book.
Okay.
Well, then, whatever.
But she's in, and here's why.
So let's talk about a French woman.
Yesterday, Christine Lagarde said she was candidate for the managing of the IMF. Do you know her?
And do you think she has a necessary experience for that job?
No, this question is set up.
Of course it's set up.
That's why she's in.
She would be a good candidate because she is a woman.
What do you think?
Yes, because she is a woman!
This is sexist and this is pissing me off.
Well, I actually know her.
I admire her.
I saw her last night at a dinner that I hosted for all of the ministers attending the OECD 50th anniversary.
And I told her privately, and I said publicly at a press conference earlier today, That the United States has not taken an official position.
Obviously, other candidates may come forth.
But speaking unofficially and personally, I am a strong supporter of qualified women, of which she is certainly one, being given the opportunities to lead international organizations.
So I wished her well last night, and I will be watching closely as this unfolds.
Right, so she's in.
She's in.
You're right.
Total setup question.
She's in.
Well, that's because they had a French person in before, and they were promised so much time in that job, and they had rousted him, and they got to put another French person in.
It just so happens to be a woman, so they get a little icing on the cake.
Well, notice the United States is not protesting at all because she is a shill for the United States.
She ran the Chicago law firm.
Well, apparently the other guy was, too.
Everybody is.
That's what we do.
But she's a better shill.
Maybe.
So now she contradicts the Secretary General of NATO. This is the one that I found very interesting about boots on the ground in Libya.
Does that mean that we are now close to fighting on the ground?
Will America commit any troops if France and Great Britain commit to ground fighting?
We will not commit any troops, but I don't believe that either France or Great Britain are committing troops by adding, if they do, these attack helicopters.
Oh, really?
We're not doing any troops?
Well, here's what the Secretary General says.
NATO and partners have just decided to extend our mission for Libya for another 90 days.
This decision sends a clear message to the Gaddafi regime.
We are determined to continue our operation to protect the people of Libya.
We will sustain our efforts to fulfill the United Nations mandate.
We will keep up the pressure to see it through.
Our decision also sends a clear message to the people of Libya.
NATO, our partners, the whole international community stand with you.
We stand united to make sure that you can shape your own future.
And that day is getting closer.
So on the same day the Secretary General says this, these news reports come out.
But help is on hand.
Evidence for the first time of Allied boots on the ground.
Here a group of armed foreigners, possibly British, seen liaising with the fighters.
It could be to facilitate forthcoming helicopter attacks.
The men left hurriedly when they spotted us.
Yeah.
So there's boots on the ground.
Attack helicopters?
Really?
You're telling me there's no boots on the ground, but you've got helicopters flying around?
This is ridiculous.
You can't.
This makes no sense.
Helicopters are meant to land.
You know, that's the whole point, is they can land in small, reasonably confined areas.
Of course this is boots on the ground.
They're dropping the boots in with the helicopters.
I think there's already been reports of that.
Yeah, but now...
Okay.
Right.
So Clinton says one thing and these guys say another.
It's not supposed to be our operation anymore anyway.
Yeah, well, it is.
Dominic Smith-Kahn, just to come back to him, there's two theories floating out there right now.
One is crackpot, one is actually pretty damn good.
Let's do the crackpot one first.
Okay, the crackpot one is, I like this, is that Dominic, so the IMF deals in a lot of gold.
And they started a gold selling program in 2010.
They were going to sell several tons of gold and they sold it to all kinds of countries.
And they run a lot of their operation based on gold.
And apparently, so this gold, of course, comes from countries who are members of the IMF.
So this gold, of course, comes from countries who are members of the IMF.
Apparently, the United States had committed, as per the Second Amendment of the Articles of Agreement of the IMF, 191.3 tons of gold to be sold.
But they keep stalling delivery of the gold.
And so the crackpot theory is that Dominic Strauss-Kahn discovered, through a couple of whistleblowers within the U.S. government, that there is no gold, that they can't deliver the gold.
And he was on his way to get out of the country quickly.
Did they run out of tungsten or what?
Well, yeah, exactly.
Well, we know that there's a lot of tungsten gold floating around.
And that that's why they nabbed him.
And then, of course, you probably heard about this Egyptian banker who...
The exact same thing happens to him.
He's in a hotel room in New York.
Now, he apparently is...
He was supposed to go back to New York and retrieve the evidence or the details or whatever it is of this gold that can't be delivered because we no longer have gold in Fort Knox.
Which, by the way, no one is allowed to see anymore.
There's no audit of the gold at Fort Knox.
And so this guy has exactly the same thing happen.
He has a chambermaid that he sexually assaults.
The only difference is, this guy is a 74-year-old devout Muslim, which is kind of a little weird when you think about him doing the same as Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
So that's kind of the crackpot theory.
Here's the theory that I... It's not much of a theory.
This guy was arrested.
No, but the theory is that it's about the U.S. not being able to deliver the gold and that this guy wanted to pop it on everybody and have the evidence to let everybody know that the U.S. doesn't have the gold.
Well, it's, you know...
More interesting is an Abel and Cain story.
He has a brother, Mark Oliver Strauss-Kahn, who is a senior advisor to the Federal Reserve.
He works for the World Bank.
And the theory on this is, and there's an excellent story that the slog wrote, and I'll put a link to his blog in the show notes at noagendashow.com, nashownotes.com.
His entire theory is that this is a move by his brother to get his older brother, Dominic Strauss-Kahn, out of the picture for him to take over, and Abel and Cain.
I think that is actually viable.
I like the first theory better.
The gold?
It could be.
You know, we don't know.
It's certainly not a coincidence what happened here.
But those are the two theories, and I'm following up on both of them.
The gold is a little hard, but there's been several calls for an audit of Fort Knox to go and see the gold.
When was the last time that happened?
Like the 70s?
Didn't they open it up and people were allowed to go down and look at the gold and go, ooh, that looks like gold to me.
Didn't that happen then in the 70s?
Well, you know, you could make a fake exhibition of the gold.
I don't know why they don't do that if this theory is correct.
Well, because now everyone knows about tungsten and be like, hey, drill a hole in that.
Let me just see what's inside of there.
Let me do a little sample.
That's not true.
The number of people that know about the tungsten scam is very small.
I think our listeners and a few other people, the general public, going down to Fort Knox to look at the gold aren't going to bring it up.
Yeah, but it wouldn't just be general public.
It would be people who know what they're doing.
Put a camera on it.
Take one brick.
I'll drill a hole in it and have that real gold in it.
It's not that hard to fake it.
Well, then why don't they just do that?
That's what I'm asking you.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I think we deserve to see our gold.
I mean, if they're going to scam us out of the gold, which is how the theory has it, you'd think at least they'd have a phony baloney show they could put on, a dog and pony show.
Yeah, well, maybe there's not enough.
Maybe they're just like, eh.
They don't even have enough to plate your two bricks.
It's dead empty.
Is what you're saying.
It's like, hello?
Hello?
Hello?
It's completely...
Hello?
Hello?
It's completely...
Fort Knox now being used as an echo chamber.
It's completely possible.
Turn it into a disco.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to the Fort...
Hello, everybody.
I'm Barack, your DJ. Welcome to the Fort Knox Disco.
And now, the Sugar Hill Gang.
I can just see him doing that now.
Barack's Fort Knox Disco.
2008.
Yeah.
Did you see what the president did on Memorial Day?
I'll take that as a no.
Uh, no.
This was not reported.
Probably for good reason.
I take Memorial Day pretty seriously.
To me, unlike most Americans, unfortunately, it's not a day to go get a good deal on a car or just get hammered at a barbecue.
But it's a day to remember.
It started initially with the Civil War, to remember the fallen soldiers.
That Memorial Day began with World War I as Armistice Day and turned into Memorial Day, and actually the Civil War celebrations all morphed into Thanksgiving.
It is seen more as Armistice Day, but if you consult the Book of Knowledge, Wikipedia on this, you'll see that it actually started after the Civil War.
But let's say World War I. That makes more sense.
Thank you.
I can hear you consulting the book of knowledge.
I am.
But for obvious reason, considering my family history and the service that my family has provided, I think about that.
I don't mind having a barbecue and slapping back some brewskis.
But I think about the fallen men and women, and we've had several thousand in the past ten years who have died protecting what they believe is our country, but of course it's really protecting the interests of the military-industrial complex.
So I have extra thinking to do about how horrible that is.
So the president, of course, does his little wreath laying at the tomb of the unknown soldier there in Arlington Cemetery, and then he goes off and plays golf.
When did he become such an avid golfer?
I mean, there's so many things he could have done.
He could have spent the day with veterans.
He could have mowed the lawn for somebody, you know, what Joe Biden suggested.
There's a million things the president could have done.
No, he's like, Michelle, I gotta lay that wreath and get in a quick nine.
And then he goes off and he plays golf.
It's wrong.
And of course, no one reported on this.
You did.
Well, that's what people tune into the show for.
Somebody must have reported on it or you wouldn't have found out about it.
Yeah, well, I have my sources.
We have noage in the newsnetwork.com.
He went to Fort Belvoir Golf Course.
He's in the neighborhood.
Yeah, but it's Memorial Day.
There's so much...
I know.
He shouldn't be playing golf as the president on Memorial Day.
It's an insult.
It's not a day to go to Coney Island.
Yay!
It's an insult.
It's an insult.
The guy goes off and...
I mean, there's so many things he should have done, I feel, as our commander-in-chief who puts...
He commands people and puts them in harm's way.
Yeah, let me go play some golf.
I can tell this irked you.
Yeah, I'm going to throw a shoe at him.
Yeah, that did irk me.
Are you kidding me?
It's very irksome.
And I think...
I hope...
Mainstream media will make some news.
Well, there's been some interesting studies done recently, and the mainstream media is just very Democrat.
They don't want to criticize the president, and they don't want any Republicans to get any ink, and they slant the news, and I think it's been well documented.
And so this kind of thing doesn't show up anymore.
Yeah, it's a travesty.
Pure travesty.
So, after the show on...
Sunday.
Was it Sunday?
Yeah, the last show?
Indeed.
Yeah.
Literally, as I was rolling out Mr.
Oil's show, the power went out.
And it went out countrywide.
No, it didn't.
Hold on.
Spotted, but countrywide.
It was out in Austin.
It was out in Detroit.
It was out in multiple places in Los Angeles.
It was out in Canada, Toronto, Quebec.
Multiple power facilities went down, all on Sunday.
But the crazy thing is this happened around...
I don't know.
That wasn't Mr.
Oil Show.
It happened around 3.30.
But at 2 o'clock, I got that crazy app on my Android which measures solar flares.
I keep seeing Class C solar flares, which aren't all that big a deal.
You know, like a 1, a 2, a 3, or whatever.
But at 3 o'clock, I got to work 2.45.
I got this 8.7 Class C solar flare.
And then 45 minutes later, we get this crazy wind, and it's like a really weird storm.
And then, you know, the power goes out for two hours.
And of course, the only place I can go is stupid Twitter, which is pathetic.
It's Memorial Day weekend.
I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
Not a single news organization local to Los Angeles is even reporting on it because they're all drinking beer and playing golf with the president.
I just want to get some news on this.
You call the LADWP. They're like, give us your CAN number, whatever the hell that is.
Customer access nunchuck number.
I just want to know what's going on.
Well, they answered me.
Do you know what happened?
This is the most insulting thing.
Turns out squirrels were biting through the aluminum near the Burbank power station, and that's why the power went out.
Oh really?
Squirrels?
Where's your sound effect?
It's gone.
For some reason my squirrel sound effect is gone.
But how lame is that?
They're going to tell me?
It does happen a lot.
Oh please.
Squirrels?
Yeah, no, squirrels are a big plague.
In fact, I was talking to a guy, a power guy.
It's more of a problem less with the power guys than it is with the telecom guys.
Because typically a squirrel gets a little nip of something.
I mean, he's just electrocuted.
But with the guys of the phone system, the squirrels eat through the wires and they just keep eating.
In fact, I was told the story, the fascinating story, a personal anecdote here, about the fact that in California they...
Pacific Bell, when they're running it, they've been trying to do something about squirrels eating through the phone lines for years, and so they decided to develop a plastic that's laced with capsicum.
Capsicum?
Capsicum is the vital ingredient in a hot chili pepper.
Okay.
And so they made this extremely hot chili flavored plastic and it turned out that the squirrels got a taste for it.
Oh no, they love it.
And so they started eating even more because they're using it as spice for the nuts, I guess.
I have no idea.
But it is a problem.
Squirrels are a problem now.
Whether they would cause an...
A power outage?
All over the country seems highly unlikely.
This is my point.
That's the only thing you can come up with is squirrels.
I mean, solar flares could be a real problem, can't they, John?
I mean, that's a real issue.
Yeah, but I'm trying to get the time because I think when a solar flare...
Now, this app of yours, does it tell you when the flare occurs or when the effect begins?
Because the distance between the Earth and the Sun is long enough that a solar flare, I don't think it's a 45-minute travel time.
Is it longer or shorter?
I think it's longer.
It basically is alerts from some government organization.
Isn't it NASA or NOAA or someone?
I don't know.
I don't know what this app is.
I've never seen it.
And I don't know why anyone would have it on their phone, by the way.
Someone suggested, one of our producers suggested I have it on my phone for this very reason.
He said, we're going to get a lot of solar flares, a lot of weird stuff that's going to happen.
NASA has been warning about communications going out because of solar flares.
I mean, that's official.
We've talked about it on the show.
Yeah, well, that's been going on forever.
Right.
And it does happen.
I don't think it's as bad as it used to be because most of these satellites and everything have been hardened against such events.
And they also turn the satellite around.
I mean, I think there's so much time.
For example, the satellite folks...
If a solar flare happens and it's starting to head toward Earth, they can actually take the satellite and they reposition it, they turn it.
So the vital parts of it don't get wiped out by the flare because these things are expensive.
And so there's enough time to do that.
Not everybody can do that.
I mean, there's a lot of junk up there.
Yeah, but I'm talking about the expensive, you know, communication stuff that we need to bomb people.
And the important things, you know, the bomb-oriented...
Here's the crazy thing.
So that night, so of course, you know, we had to do our hair without hair dryers and stuff.
Oh, no!
Yeah, real emergency.
We had dinner with our power lesbian friends, power lesbian couple friends.
Well, did they provide power for the lights?
Yeah.
It's just by rubbing sticks together.
But, you know, they're high-powered members of society.
And so we're having dinner, and I'm like, yeah, this solar flare stuff.
And one of them turns to me and says, are you sure it wasn't an EMP strike?
I'm like, what?
Are you kidding me?
So we're propagating the formula and doing well.
EMP strike.
I couldn't believe she said that.
I'm like, really?
So my squirrel jingle is gone.
What do you mean it's gone?
It's gone.
Here I am, ready to talk about squirrels, and then all of a sudden it's gone.
Really?
Yeah.
Huh.
Well, you can always reclip it.
It's right in there.
I have that movie on a DVD. I can clip it for you.
I know that, but it's kind of irritating.
Oh, thank you very much, Gitmo Slave.
Somebody just sent it to you?
Yeah, of course.
Are you kidding me?
These are our people, man.
Squirrel!
There we go.
There you go.
Perfect.
Got it back.
So I found two memes floating around.
One of them was pointed out by a listener.
Okay.
Okay.
And I didn't even think about it as a meme.
We've talked about it and talked about it and talked about it, but we never declared it to be a meme.
We just declared it was part of a scheme to regulate the internet, which seems to be going full steam ahead.
Remember, podcastlicense.com.
If anybody hasn't noticed.
We should also have an internet license while we're at it.
Can somebody get internetlicense.com?
Yeah, that's a good one.
Because that way everybody could buy that instead of the ten podcasters that we're going to end up selling these things to as a joke.
It's a real license, okay?
We are qualified to have...
It's as real as the knighthoods.
Exactly.
Why not?
Yeah.
Nothing wrong with that.
I think anyone can do these things.
Internetlicense.com.
I'm sure that's available.
All right.
Maybe.
So we also call it an iLicense.
Somebody at iLicense.com.
No, because Apple will come and sue us.
No, no.
We'll have it before they have it.
They own the letter I, dude.
Forget about it.
I'd go with it.
There's plenty of...
Anyway, so the meme is just the meme itself.
It's Hacker.
Oh, really?
And we've seen it with Anthony Weiner and the hacker, hacker, hacker.
And he's got this long definition he talks about with the clip that you didn't play.
And he's a hacker, hacker, hacker thing.
So I have like a definitive classic version of this hacker meme floating around from CNN with Candy Crowley.
And visitors to the PBS website saw a shocking story claiming that the late rapper Tupac Shakur, dead almost 15 years, is alive and living in New Zealand.
The fake article was the work of hackers who also posted sensitive PBS information.
They say they were motivated by a recent Frontline episode about Bradley Manning, the U.S. soldier suspected of leaking government secrets.
Candy?
The hacking thing is out of control.
Out of control!
It is.
You know, and it's pretty kind of scary when you think that people's personal information also was posted online as well.
It wasn't just getting into it.
The company things, they say, well, nothing really essential was, you know, was gotten by the hackers.
But, you know, the day is coming.
Pretty much now.
Okay.
Very good.
Very good, John.
So let's connect the dots for a second.
Let's say Anthony Weiner connected to Lucifer Clinton's State Department with techno experts who desperately want a harmonization of the Budapest Convention, which literally states you can't disparage anyone online.
They desperately want to propagate the hacker meme that So that we have a reason to go arrest people because you're a hacker, which that name, by the way, has changed just the way Gay changed.
Hacker used to be someone who just hacked around in code and didn't take a structured approach to programming, computer programming.
So what if...
This meme needed to be propagated because what's not working is people are not afraid.
People are not afraid of hackers taking their personal data.
People just aren't afraid.
So maybe Anthony Weiner was either set up or complicit in the setup to really propagate the whole idea of hacking.
He certainly used it a lot, didn't he?
Yeah, he used the word constantly and he's not, I don't believe he's complicit because unless this is a prank on, I mean, unless he's doing the pranking and it went out of control and he's lost control of it.
And I don't believe that's true because he's just not reacting properly.
So I think he just happens to be part of the system that is trying to promote this hacking meme that has become like, we hacker, hacker, hacker, bad, bad, bad.
We have to do something, government has to step in.
And I think you're right about the Budapest thing, that we can't, you know...
Because they're so dangerous.
Dangerous!
And you're right.
The fact is the hacker term, which was originally the guys that used to be worried about were called crackers.
Mm-hmm.
Crackers.
That's right.
That's right.
And they became so generically called...
In fact, Stephen Levy, a writer, was a...
All over the place.
He writes a lot of pro-Apple books.
Pretty much his bread and butter.
And he wrote a book called Hackers, I think.
It was Hackers.
And he bitches about...
Because apparently people are true hackers.
The guys who like to fool around with a machine by playing with it.
Doing your right non-standard things with a computer to see how they work.
Just a hobby.
And they have been called or now considered evil.
And that started almost 20 years ago or more.
And now it's become, now it's showing up too much.
And it was one of our listeners that sent it to me saying, look, you've been talking about this, but you don't realize there's, you know, you missed the fact that this is a meme that is rampant.
And when this Candy Crowley thing came out after the Wiener thing, I said, this is just unbelievably ridiculous.
And so people out there, the only reason we want to bring these up is so you can now keep an eye out.
Yeah, no, I think it's good that our producer brought that up.
And this is...
Internetlicense.com, you're so right.
We've got to get on this.
We've got to start licensing people.
We've got to, you know, license them up.
We can be a...
We'll be the...
Clearinghouse.
The agency...
Agency of record.
The agency of record, and we'll be an NGO. Yeah.
A 50313C, whatever.
It would be an NGO licensing, you know, self-flight.
This is what free enterprise is all about.
And by the way, it's the way the internet is supposed to work.
We're self-organizing.
The industry is regulating itself.
And so you can be assured when you get the license, you'll get a license and you'll get a bug, a little logo that you can put on your website so people can now trust you.
And in fact, we'll have a line of code.
A line of code goes into every website and the line of code has the license number.
And so when the search engine goes through, it sees the license, license number, checks it against the database.
And then you know you're assured you're not on some sort of evil site.
And of course, when you click on that logo, it'll take you right back to internetlicense.com.
Right.
It's viral.
It goes viral.
And by the way, there's a lot going on with this cybersecurity bill, of which parts have been released.
There is no real definitive bill that has actually been introduced as such.
But you were the first one to say, I feel the walls closing in very, very rapidly.
Right.
It's, uh, it's...
Well, we'll be in Easy Street because we'll be having, we'll be the licensing agency, so we'll always be able to get out.
You know, and it'll be great.
Until they shut us down.
This is good.
But I guess internetlicense.com is taken.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So maybe we have to...
It's too bad.
Maybe ilicense.com.
Well, we'll come up with something that's similar.
Look, the chat room's got enough brain power.
Yeah, they're working on it.
Similar...
They're working on it.
Boy vey.
So anyway, so that's a meme.
Now, this week, and I think memes are important to follow, I caught another one, which I've been thinking about for a while, but I just didn't put it together until I got this clip.
And this clip is, and actually it was this clip that made me realize that there's a meme in play that we've only kind of touched on but we haven't really played up.
And it's the anti-college education meme.
Oh, is this Peter Thiel?
No, this is a clip from a soap opera.
Oh.
Look, I'm about to graduate.
I have to finish school because of the whole parole thing, but after that, I'm completely free.
I didn't apply to any colleges.
I'm not really interested in higher education.
Can't imagine that's going to go over to well with your family.
Oh, they'll have to live with that.
I know where I belong.
In the business, learning my way up.
Look, I already have a grasp of all the basics.
You know, I just need more hands-on experience.
Look, Johnny, you won't be sorry you hired me.
I'll be dedicated and loyal.
Look, Michael, there's going to be a day that comes where you look back on this choice and realize that this day changed your life forever.
So I just want you to be sure and clear what you're signing up for.
So, where was this from, by the way?
I think it was either General Hospital or one of the other ones.
The Young and the Restless, I'm not sure.
They're trying to desperately stay on the air by propagating any meme that's thrown in front of them.
Well, this meme, I don't even know that they're propagating it, but I just realized what a meme it was because we've been getting nothing.
We've been inundated with stories about, oh, you know, student loans.
If you go to college, you come out, you're broke!
And in debt.
And in debt.
Yeah, and in debt.
Just before I got this meme, I remember seeing on one of these news talk shows, some woman being interviewed on the street, oh, I just graduated and now I owe $300,000 and I'm never going to pay it off.
I only took out a $10,000 loan, but now I owe half a million dollars and I don't know how I'm going to pay it off.
So there's all these stories.
Peter Thiel.
Peter Thiel literally came out and he says he's paying college students to drop out of school and go work at his companies in other forms, but not to complete college.
And Peter Thiel, of course, is a well-known Silicon Valley guy, Facebook, all the CIA companies, PayPal, eBay, Facebook.
Now, this all harkens back, and by the way, Peter Thiel should be ashamed of himself, but this all harkens back to probably about two or three years ago when I read that quote from the guy who had worked up in Cheyenne Mountain or one of those things up near Colorado.
Iron Mountain.
Iron Mountain, and he was talking to some general saying, you know, this was in the 60s or 70s.
These kids are protesting too much.
They know too much.
We need to dumb down the American public.
We've got to do something about it because, you know, the educated public is a problem.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's a real problem.
It's a real problem.
And now that we're going into a second double depression, we don't need a bunch of smarty pants that are educated enough to be able to think.
We need workers.
We don't want people that can think for themselves.
So let's take and do a couple of things.
One, let's do this college loan scam and ruin everybody's life and show them it as a terrible threat.
And let's jack up the prices.
I mean, it used to be when I was a kid.
You could go to college for nothing, and now it's like, you know, it's $100,000 in the hole just to get into, you know, to do the four years.
They have it documented on a website.
I was talking to Horowitz about this on the DH Unplugged show.
He's got a list, and it costs $100,000 for a four-year education at Cal Berkeley.
I mean, which is, and that's low for most of these schools.
So they're trying, and they're also, there's another meme that you'll be hearing a lot of, and I heard it last night.
Which is that, well, you know, there's all these countries and they're all in disarray and there's Asia and there's cropping up.
And the one thing they all agree on is it's best to get their education in the United States at one of our universities.
So, in other words, everybody wants to come here and so they're catering to foreign students.
In fact, the University of California here in Cal Berkeley, I believe, is almost half...
Out of state and foreign students, as opposed to training and educating the Californians who set up this institution.
So you bring all these foreigners in and educate them, dumb down the American public, screw them with these college loans, and have this never-ending meme that you don't need to go to college.
You're better off getting right into work.
Why don't we go back to the days when you graduated from the 8th grade and you could start working?
This is a terrible situation that nobody's addressing and the fact that it's being promoted and people like Peter Thiel is part of the problem.
So let's look at the facts here.
You went to college?
I did.
Which institution did you attend?
I went to this university over here, University of California, Berkeley.
Okay.
You went to Berkeley, which of course is where all the spooks are.
Yeah.
You went to Berkeley.
Only recently, by the way.
I don't believe it was the case when I was there.
You went to Berkeley and you completed, you graduated.
Do you have a degree?
Yeah, of course I have a degree.
What's your degree?
It's a degree.
I have a degree in history.
History, okay.
Did you go on to do a master's or any other type of...
No, I did a little post-grad work, but I never did get it.
I was always promising to get a PhD, but I just never followed up.
Okay, so we're established.
You have graduated from UC Berkeley, a fine spook institution.
You have a degree in history.
I dropped out of college after three months, and here we are, together.
Same show, same gig.
Yeah.
So what does that tell you about the value of your piece of paper?
Well, just so you're part of the problem.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Part of the problem and proud of it.
Is that...
Yeah, there's a sociological difference between the two of us, and it's only been equalized by the fact that I have a college education, and you've decided to dumb yourself down.
So that's another issue.
Daniel Collins, Grosse Pointe, Michigan.
We have actually three...
111.11 donors and people have to realize we've got 11-11-11 coming up.
Now there's a couple of 11-11s that take place.
We also have five Saturdays, five Sundays in this year.
This is a very special year.
It's very magical, very powerful.
Right.
So we have three donors at the 111.11 level.
Daniel Collins, a new donor, Grosse Pointe, Michigan, just wanted to thank you so much by donating.
I just recently started listening.
So I don't know if I need a dedouching.
Actually, he doesn't.
Anyway, thanks again.
Keep up the great work, and we'll try to keep on donating.
Keith Edwards of Gilbert, Arizona, and...
Sir Snakes.
Peter Snakes.
Sir Peter Snakes.
Is also in on 11111.
Lena Nobuhara in Tussmore, South Australia.
$100.
She wants to thank us for many hours of hard work.
Keep us all informed in the morning.
It's almost been three months since the Japan earthquake and tsunami.
Even though Red Cross has started distributing the donated funds, it will take a while to reach the most affected people.
And besides, it's not cash they want.
They want blankets, hot showers, and bath linens.
Wait a minute.
Let's just play that for a second.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
She also gave us a list of a couple of non-profit organizations at Civic Force, which we'll have links in the show notes on.
A lot more information on the Japanese page.
Some clips you'd like to look at.
They work with the community to see what they need the most, and it's apparently not a scam like these other operations.
I'll put those into the show notes at 309.nashownotes.com.
309.nashownotes.com MindOverMedia.
John and Adam, here's another $100 to support No Agenda and the celebration of my wife's birthday.
We've got her listed.
Send some karma to wish Melissa.
Melissa.
You've got karma.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's your Berkeley education right there.
Melissa.
Very good.
UC Berkeley, everybody.
Melissa.
So you're basically on board with Peter Tile.
His name is Teal.
There's your Berkeley education, everybody.
Okay.
Hey, well, you slammed me, bro.
No, no, you slammed me.
You started it.
No, I asked a question.
Here we are both winding up in the same gig begging for money to support a show because we have nothing else we can do.
Right, and if it wasn't for my education, I would probably be driving a truck and I wouldn't even know who you were.
Wait a minute.
That's not the way to look at it.
That's the way I see it.
If I had had an education, I'd be driving the truck.
You have to demean me for actually making the effort to get a degree because you didn't have to because you were born with a silver spoon.
Oh, wow!
Oh, excuse me.
Let me just pull the silver spoon out of my butt.
I was born with a silver spoon.
Really?
Oh, that's rich.
That's really nice.
I had to go to West Virginia.
My parents couldn't afford UC Berkeley, douche.
So you're calling West Virginia a second-rate school?
Salem, West Virginia, not WVU. Oh.
Yes.
Give a shout-out to Lawrence Dring, APO, is in the military.
Give a shout-out to Haley and Lupi in Sagamahara, Japan.
Hey, John, we want more sumo updates.
That's a good point.
Yes, I've been missing those.
Keep the good work.
He's from the land of the rising Geiger counter.
Michael Miller, Sir Michael Miller it is.
Tiburon 55, double nickels on the dime.
Misty Tallman, Colorado Springs, double nickels on the dime.
Vincent Farrell, San Jose.
John and Adam love the show.
It gets me through the gym and my commute.
Sometimes I re-listen to the show so I can make sure I get all the talking points.
So I'm definitely getting a full value.
Can I get a de-douching and a karma shot together?
Yeah, a double shot, sure.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
That tightness of those two jingles is the work of an uneducated person.
Interested, but born with a silver spoon that he swallowed.
And he admitted it.
It came out his ass.
Interstate deals at Ventura, Florida.
Can you please de-douche me?
You've been de-douched.
You need some karma.
Hey, Berkeley boy, could you please read ahead so that we can get them both at the same time?
I know it's hard, you know.
You've got karma.
You know, that advanced reading class of Berkeley.
iPhone4parts.com.
This is a website.
We sell iPhone parts worldwide and listen to No Agenda in the office while packing orders.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, of course.
Get back to work, you people!
Yeah.
Hi, John and Adam.
I was sad to hear donations are down, but even thought, how can I be sad if I'm part of the problem?
Can you please?
We just deduced him.
We all sell iPhones.
This is like he's repeated himself.
Okay.
Now, this name, is this person's name Lone, really?
Mickey's worried that we're fighting.
Goodbye, honey.
Stop it.
Mickey, it's his fault.
He's a douchebag.
Lone Emrick?
No.
It's got to be Joan, right?
No?
Lone.
I don't know.
I didn't go to Berkeley.
I can't.
Brooke Park, Ohio.
You can drop it.
PropagateTheFormula.com is now a redirect of a no agenda.
Show.com.
And guys, please send me some karma with a C's.
Got it?
It's different.
Oh, okay.
You've got karma.
I didn't have that one.
I'll put that one in here.
PropagateTheFormula.com Christopher Gray, Palm Bay, Florida.
I'm a five-buck-a-month subscriber.
I wanted to give $50.
It's my 40th birthday on June 2nd.
Please give me a birthday shout-out.
I recently got my liberal actor brother into the show.
Well, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, we got him on the list.
Christopher Lawton, Greg Brunsell.
Christopher Lawton's in Dartmouth, Massachusetts.
And Greg Brunsell's in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Fifty bucks each.
And then we have an anonymous donor.
Fifty dollars.
Please just call me Officer Friendly from Cage Match.
And a de-douching karma for his wife combination would be appreciated.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Just had to donate after the package we made about Biden's speech because it was so damn good.
Thanks for everything and my wife needs the karma for some morons.
Killed the garden she worked hard on in the past weekend.
Hopefully the funds will pick up and whatever.
The garden will grow better.
And Jonas Ensby in Oslo.
Greetings from Get One Nation Brown Cheese.
Love the show because contributed to being a boner, although...
Now he's a donor, and although my credit card and bank account is in the negative, I had to take advantage of the terrible U.S. dollar.
I'd also like to hear both of you pronounce my name.
I got Jonas Ensby.
What do you have?
I got Jonas Ensby.
Jonas Ansby.
It's probably Jonas Ansby or something like that.
He's a new donor.
And also the last new donor for the day is...
I'm sorry, there's two more, but one is new.
Robert Vitale in Staten Island.
He says we're a riot.
He thinks we're funny.
And Robert Dardin, brother of Tyler...
Hoboken, New Jersey.
And that's our group of fine investors and producers and helpers and contributors to today's show.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Since Shill Light did the spreadsheet today, he put in a new category, which is kind of interesting, New Donors Over $10.
Emmanuel Lozier.
So these are all people who are new to the show.
This warms my heart, and we have new non-boners but new donors.
Daniel Collins, Lawrence Dring, Misty Tallman, Vincent Farrell, Interstate Deals, Jonas Ensby, as we just had there, Robert Vitale and Kevin Payne, all new donors over $10.
And we highly appreciate that.
I did want to mention one thing about the reason why we run the show this way, as became extremely apparent with an announcement from PBS earlier this week, of course, covered up by the news media who are too obsessed with looking at a penis.
PBS officials at their annual meeting in Orlando said that starting this fall, they are going to break every 15 minutes for corporate and foundation sponsor spots, promotional messages and branding.
Yeah, I saw this article.
I was just, I mean, it's not as though it's something we didn't see coming.
Right, but our national treasure, NPR, has been doing this for, well, certainly the last year that I've been listening regularly.
They interrupt the programming for a commercial message.
A commercial.
A commercial.
It's just a commercial.
People giving them money.
I hear the Car Talk guys, and it's like, Car Talk is proudly underwritten by Valvoline.
Well, hello.
I mean, Valvoline, it makes sense.
It's an oil product for your car.
It's targeted towards Car Talk.
It's commercial.
It's completely commercial.
And now PBS is going to...
So that's only...
Five minutes longer than...
And by the way, they don't mention how long the pods will be.
I mean, will it be one spot, two spots, five spots?
I saw one break recently where they had ten spots.
It was after the news hour of one of these shows.
It just went on and on.
And these are long spots where the people go on and on about their product.
I mean, the Chevron commercial that they run is the same one they run on network TV? Exactly.
Of course it is.
So PBS is now basically a commercial station.
What kind of taxes do they pay?
Because I guess they're a non-profit.
If I were running a real network, I'd be angry.
These guys have got coverage everywhere.
They probably don't have to pay for cable space the way a commercial network has to.
That's a good question.
Do they pay for carriage?
I probably don't.
I don't know the rules, but it may even be that cable companies are forced to carry it, like they're forced to carry C-SPAN. We need to talk to a cable guy.
I'm sure some cable guy out there in the audience can help us with this.
So it's now a commercial entity.
They have an unfair advantage.
And then they're begging for money.
Give me a break.
They're corrupted.
Or at least, at the very best, corruptible.
Because you cannot bite the hand that feeds you.
So if General Electric puts down a couple million dollars in an ad buy, you're not going to do a negative story.
You're just not going to do it.
It will be circumvented through management one way or the other.
John and I both have worked at media companies long enough.
I certainly have worked at media companies most of my adult life.
That it's just how it works.
So you can't trust it anymore.
You can't.
Now, we of course don't have a staff.
Other than the most important staff we can get are producers who we call our listeners.
And you know that when you're getting something for free, you are the product.
Now you are getting this program for free, but you are supporting it.
You're sponsoring and supporting the show.
So you know there's a value for value in there.
You know that there's no one going to come knocking on our door that's going to have to tell us what we have to say about a certain topic.
Right?
Right.
Absolutely.
Right?
Right.
So where's the reporting on this PBS story?
I tell you.
So please.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Also go to NoAgendaNation.com and you can click on a big donation button there.
And also the NoAgendaShow.com has a donation button you can click on, which will take you to Dvorak.org slash NA. And we'll be adding some new stuff this week, specifically to help Adam and his national tour.
Get My Nation Hot Pockets 2008 tour.
The 2008 tour.
You know what?
It would be probably good, and Eric can organize this.
In between feedings, in between breastfeeding.
Yeah, and his wife's going to do some of that, too.
I think if you're going to be on the road, and this is, I think, I don't think we, you know, we're taking donations as usual, and, you know, some of the, obviously, it has to go to gas money, but I think that if, with a big box of t-shirts that say, No Agenda Hot Pockets Tour 2008, with the cities listed...
You could be selling them out of the back of the van for $20 a pop.
Yeah, the van.
Bag of the van.
$20.
You open the trunk and you got them in there and they're $20 a pop and they pay for gas.
You could go as long as you want.
What a great idea, John.
It sounds fantastic.
Albums.
That's another thing you can sell.
Yeah, we can sell albums, stickers, trinkets.
Get some CDs made of you and Mickey singing.
Trinkets.
Sell them out of the back of the truck.
Van.
To the van.
And just go as long as you can.
I mean, stay on the road.
Don't come back.
Just stay out there.
Don't come back.
We need a name for said van.
She has to have a name.
So it's the Gitmo Nation Hot Pockets 2008 Tour.
We've got that.
Can you just imagine, we're rolling up with this big sticker on the side that says, Gitmo Nation Hot Pockets 2008.
And these guys be like, hey man, you've been on the road a long time, haven't you?
Hey, hey, want to buy a t-shirt?
Alright, happy birthday to the following people who are on our list here.
Jordi Ramirez turns 75 today, I guess.
Mind Over Media says happy birthday to Bailisa.
And Christopher Gray turns 40 on today, June 2, 2011.
Happy birthday from all of your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
And here it comes, John.
A very special moment right now.
We're going to give her the state of Virginia, so you need the big blade.
You got it?
Maggie Vinson, please step forward.
Maggie, you have completely given us some value for value here, which goes above and beyond the call of duty, as you have gracefully allowed us to borrow your van for the No Agenda Hot Pockets 2008 tour.
And we're going to give you the state of Virginia, Maggie Vincent.
We hereby pronounce the Baroness Maggie Vincent, Dame and Baroness of the No Agenda Roundtable, and Ruler of Virginia.
So she's got Virginia covered Which is good.
You know, probably West Virginia would be included.
Just before you, we had one note that you sent me, so I didn't know if you wanted me to read that or not.
Yeah, I was thinking that you might want to look at that.
That's from Catherine Hug.
It's a story that I think is worth relating.
Yeah, and when you send me stuff, I actually open your email, read it.
You know, there's one time ever that I didn't open your email.
Nigga, please.
This happens all the time.
One time ever.
Okay, one time.
From Katharina Haug.
Hello, John.
I just wanted to pop an email to let you know I signed up for the $11.11 a month subscription.
I was at the airport today after having downloaded a couple of shows on my iPod to listen to on the plane.
I then wandered into the airport bookstore trying to decide what magazines I should buy to alternate my methods of entertainment.
You could always self-radicalize.
I said to myself...
Self?
Why buy two or three magazines at $4.99 each when I have this great podcast to listen to instead?
I realized then, if I was ready to spend $15 for crappy magazines, three quarters of which are just ads to lure me into buying something I really don't need, then I should really be able to pay a nominal monthly fee to help support my favorite show, the show I spend more time listening to than I do talking to my boyfriend.
Oops.
Almost.
I honestly don't know what I would listen to, cooking, biking, working out, and just all-round living if you guys stopped doing the show.
So please take my donation, buy yourself some food and batteries for the potential future, and keep hitting friends in the mouth.
It's a beautiful email, and we appreciate not just Katerina, who signed up for the $11.11 a month plan, but everybody else, people also on the $5 a month plan.
That's really long-term the stuff that should sustain us, were it not that PayPal keeps deleting people's subscriptions.
It's really messed up.
It's messed up.
What bugs me about that is I get real mean-spirited emails.
A guy says, I... We supported you guys, and then you dropped me.
Yeah, we get blamed for it.
I know.
Yeah, and I said, I didn't drop any.
We don't drop anybody.
So, anyway, so people should check on that.
But the 11-11 thing is, I think, well worth it.
It's a good number.
And I think she's right, and I like that pitch.
I think it's like how much, you know, you're spending money on all kinds of things.
We're here doing this thing in a new model, which is that, you know, you have to, it's like buying a magazine or a newspaper or going to a lousy movie.
A lousy movie is a lot more than 15 bucks.
That's just the ticket.
Yeah, I know.
You go broke one of those things.
But anyway, so I want to thank everybody who comes up.
We need more of these stories.
Yeah, we do.
Let me just implant the jingle in your mind one more time.
Can I just go back to a story from a couple weeks ago that's been bothering me and finally I kind of discovered what was bothering me about it?
This Air France Flight 447?
Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't, yeah.
I was actually going to ask you about, I was going to do an Ask Adam about this, because this is getting pretty weird.
Well, in case you didn't, in case you might have slipped your mind, you asked me about it on Sunday.
Oh, I don't remember from one minute to the next.
No, I know, I know.
That's okay.
So here's the official...
Of course, the reason why it's a problem is because there's no data known.
I mean, with air incidents, there's data known about the location.
We really don't know much about it because there's not a lot of weather sensors in the middle of the Atlantic.
We knew there was some turbulence coming up.
But here's...
As I'm reading through...
Something was bugging me about this.
So, what they're saying is that, according to the flight data recorder, the aircraft sensors, known as the pitot tubes, which measures airspeed, which are heated continuously in flight to make sure no ice accumulates on them, malfunction.
So, they didn't know...
What their airspeed was.
And if you really look at the pure facts of the matter, this aircraft stalled, and it doesn't mean the engine stalled, but if you don't have enough forward airspeed, then there's not enough airflow under the wings, and then it's called a wing stall, and you fall down to the ground.
So the thing that bothers me is that the sensors...
They only said that the sensors for airspeed malfunction.
And in the report it says that all other systems were functioning properly.
Now, when you're training to fly an aircraft...
Attitude of your aircraft is, you have speed and attitude are the most important things.
Without speed, you've got a problem, but attitude is right up there on the list.
And the attitude is the pitch of the airplane.
So what they're saying in the report is that the co-pilot apparently was flying at the time, noticed something was wrong, and started pulling back on the stick.
In other words, setting the airplane into a nose-up attitude.
This is contrary to every piece of training you receive, particularly Particularly if there's an airspeed issue.
You will always, you're trained to do this.
It's like when you take the test, this is what the, you go through a stalled test.
It's the simplest thing in the world.
The airplane starts to buff it.
First thing you do immediately, push the nose forward.
Push the nose forward.
It's a part of the test.
This co-pilot apparently pulled back.
It makes no sense, particularly if his attitude indicator, his artificial horizon, was functioning, which according to the report, the official report says it was functioning, that he made this move.
So something happened that is either not being reported, But what is being reported is contrary to every single thing an airman would actually know about what happens in any type of situation where you cannot either measure your airspeed or you know there's a degradation of airspeed.
So I don't have more than that other than...
Ah, yeah.
I mean, it's so obvious to anyone who's followed these airbuses that it's a soft...
Software issue.
Yeah, he probably pushed forward and it might have reversed or pulled up or whatever it is.
Oh, he might have done a bunch of things and it said, no, no, no, I know what I'm doing.
And the computer took over and lifted the plane and then dropped into the ground.
I mean, this is what happened at the air show, which the poor pilot was blamed for.
We remember this, one of the early air buses that was showing off at the Paris Air Show.
And the guy came in to do some low-flying...
Not a touchdown, but apparently just do kind of a mock line.
You know the story I'm talking about.
He came down, but not to land, and then he tried to pull back up, and the plane said, wait a minute, you're supposed to be landing, and it drove right into a bunch of trees.
He drove, no less.
He was driving.
It's like, and then they blamed the guy.
He was driving.
I'm driving around here in my plane.
So, and you know, now we've got the 380, which is a monster.
I would love to take a ride in it, and they're going to be bringing them into SFO. And apparently, Dubai just bought 90 of these things.
They didn't buy one or two.
Yeah, and notice they didn't buy Airbus because they crashed.
Oh, this is the Airbus.
What?
I thought they bought the Airbus.
They bought the 380s, the big giant.
They bought the Airbus.
Idiots.
Idiots.
Well, they got 90 of them.
I mean, I'm a...
Just a double-decker, you know.
Yeah, yeah, right, that one, yeah.
I wouldn't fly that.
It's a huge double-decker, and of course, like all the new, when they bring out a plane this big, you know, they put a disco and a bowling alley in it, and a bunch of things that, you know, are kind of cool.
Stripper pole.
Stripper pole and a little nightclub, and they have like, you know, soda fountain hamburger places all in there.
Drive-thru.
And they leave it like that for a while and then next thing you know it's 900 people instead all crammed.
Yeah.
But they make it kind of attractive at first.
But yeah, no, Emirates, I believe, bought 90 of these suckers.
So they're trying to fly everybody into the Middle East, you know, into Dubai for shopping.
And I think it's just, I don't know.
One of these things crashes, there's a lot of people that are going to, it's going to be a mess.
You know, I've flown a French aircraft, but a helicopter, which has, you know, it's French.
It's the Eurocopter.
And the Airbus is arguably French, you know, portions of it.
And this Eurocopter, it's the one that has the enclosed fan on the back, doesn't really have a tail rotor.
Yeah, they're kind of cool looking.
Yeah, they're quiet, I have to say, because they don't have a tail rotor exposed.
But you had to wait.
When you start it up, you have to wait because it has a management system.
And it always bothered me to sit down on the ground with the engine running, waiting for the system to boot up, and see the Microsoft NT startup screen.
It's always really bothered me.
I never really liked the Eurocopter for that only reason.
You know, like, this thing is managing my engine, really?
Microsoft NT? I'm not feeling too good.
Yeah, I would be concerned.
So, I mean, that's where we're going to end up with cars eventually.
I mean, we haven't gotten there yet.
But, I mean, they have some fly-by-wire stuff in the car.
But eventually...
Oh, yeah.
You're too stupid.
Just shut up and we'll drive for you.
There was just an event yesterday, as a matter of fact, that Ford put on.
I went to part of it.
Oh, they invited you back?
Yeah, unbelievable.
Amazing.
So, I went to, and it's, you know, my wife is asking me what's the best.
It's a talking car.
But it's not a car that talks to you.
It's a car that talks to other cars.
It talks to the road.
It talks to the police.
Yeah.
And it talks to all these things.
And we're seeing these cars.
This is like the smart car.
And we're starting to see there's a big bunch of good panelists talking about the new cars.
Ford doesn't believe that Google's approach, which is to have a car that drives itself and you just sit there and enjoy the view.
They think it's going to be just an enhanced car that doesn't drive itself.
You still get the fantastic experience of driving, but if you're going to ram into somebody, it'll stop whether you want to or not, and it'll let you know that there's a...
Would you like to ram into a car?
Press, what would it be, okay, cancel, or retry?
We'll get one of those dialogues.
Exactly.
So they have these new, they're trying to push this in it, but it's all so far in the future.
You know, people still buy, I mean, it's just bogus, because there's no way you're going to get enough of these cars on the road to make a difference, except when you buy a new car, in fact, some people believe since 2006, most of the new American cars you buy have a black box in them.
Yeah, so the black box is something that Ray Gangstala Hood would, of course, like to become a law where everybody has to have one of these black boxes.
But there's two forms.
One is the black box, which is very similar to an aircraft black box, where it's recording stuff that happens so that in the event of an incident, we can go back and then blame it on pilot error, of course.
It'll be all your fault.
The secondary one that they're talking about is for taxation issues to tax your road usage and of course track where you go.
I heard a commercial, actually saw a commercial yesterday from Progressive and this is the reason why I guarantee you, I guarantee you 100% put it in the book You will have a black box in your car because you will not be able to afford insurance without it.
And here's Progressive, one of the largest car insurers in the United States, with their latest promotion.
So what's the snapshot discount?
It's pretty revolutionary.
Patented, actually.
It takes a snapshot of your good driving habits so you can save money.
Just like a snapshot.
That's what I'm talking about.
A sports car.
Show it to me.
Yes.
I want to believe it.
It's fierce.
Love it.
Well, that's...
I think we have it.
The Snapshot Discount.
New, huge, and only from Progressive.
So it's kind of a cutesy commercial where she's taking pictures, you know.
It's like, oh, I'm taking pictures.
But the Snapshot, literally, now it's for a discount, but soon it will be if you don't have...
And it's a little device.
You have it in your car.
You have to manually, at this point, press a button so it takes a snapshot.
It has to happen...
And I have the article here somewhere.
Yeah, you're right.
It's going to just morph into a black box, and you're going to get a better deal if you have one.
You're going to save hundreds of dollars a year if you have one, and it's going to be for your benefit, because if you get into a wreck, you're right, you can reverse engineer it.
But what it's also going to be used for, and they don't even think of talking about this, is that the local police department will find some way of downloading this.
When you go in to get your smog check in California, which you have to do every year, they're going to download the data from the black box and then give you retroactive tickets because they're going to know where you were and what speed you were doing.
And you're going to say, well, look, you're in a school zone.
It was three o'clock in the afternoon.
There were children in the area.
That means 15 miles an hour.
You were doing 18 miles an hour.
You owe us money.
You were on the freeway and it was at midnight.
And, yeah, there was nobody else on the freeway, but it was like a freeway had a posted speed limit of 65 right here and you were doing 80.
You owe us money.
And that's exactly where this is going.
And then, of course, it will keep people from speeding a lot because you won't speed with the damn black box in your car.
But, you know, it's a little onerous.
And they're also going to be able to tell where you were.
Well, let's see.
Oh, what were you doing over here?
What were you doing over there?
Excuse me, Mr.
Curry.
You wouldn't want us to call your family and let them know that you were over here on this day, now would you?
I think we can use a donation to the police retirement fund.
The police benevolent fund.
So, I was incorrect.
I'm looking at the webpage on progressive.com.
Here's how it works.
Here's how our usage-based, they're calling it a usage-based insurance program works.
Hello, Gitmo Nation.
I want to enroll online.
We'll send you the device.
We'll tell you where to plug it into your car.
Drive as you normally do.
For the next 30 days, you'll keep track of your good driving habits with the Snapshot device.
You can log into your Progressive Policy anytime to see your projected Snapshot discount.
On day 31, your initial Snapshot savings, which can be anywhere from 0% to 30%, kicks in.
After six months, you'll send back the device.
We'll finalize your driving snapshot.
Notice how they use those words.
And you can keep saving for as long as you're insured by Progressive.
Well, guaranteed that this...
And this is how you get screwed on both ends.
Like, you won't be able to get insurance without your snapshot.
And then when you have your snapshot, you're going to get tickets and all kinds of...
Mickey took a right-hand turn here in Los Angeles off of Sunset.
And I think she knew she was doing something that shouldn't be done because it was like not between 3 and 7 or whatever.
You know, you have these intersections in Los Angeles.
There's 20 signs.
And, you know, it's like, okay, she turns right.
The cops are waiting there.
How much should that fine be?
Well, it should be like $20 or $50 max, but I'm sure it wasn't.
$243.
Jeez.
Yeah.
Mickey had a heart attack.
She's been saying sorry for like the past week.
She's like, I'm really sorry.
It's like, yeah, well, you know.
It was a trap.
Of course it was a trap, because they were waiting right there.
Yeah.
But anyway, that's pretty outlandish.
$243.
Well, one thing, slave, you won't do it again, slave.
That's for sure.
And it helps feed the coffers because we have overpaid public officials.
Yeah.
And, you know, we had this situation that just took place in Oakland with overpaid public officials where they wouldn't, you know, which I think is part of some other meme.
But, dude, where's my stolen MacBook?
Yeah.
That took place recently.
And some guy lost his MacBook but has some snooper software on the thing.
So he kept taking pictures of the guy who stole it.
Which I think is funny, but it's still, you know, the police said they didn't care until they got all this publicity and they had to go out and finally go arrest the guy, even though it's like an $1,100 product.
I mean, this is grand.
It's theft.
They don't care about theft anymore.
And my comment to that was every time someone brought up, well, you know, the police are busy.
Yeah, the police in Oakland, one of the things they do, and I think around the country, this is going to another moneymaker.
Don't they go around shooting black people?
Is that kind of what they're supposed to do there?
Oh, they do that.
Yeah, but that's been going on forever.
Yeah.
The latest scam that they've got going, instead of helping people find their stolen property, because stolen property is no big deal apparently, is that in red bus stops, bus stops that, you know, say you're at the BART station, and there's a parking lot, and then there's a bus area, and there's no buses there, but there's like room for three buses.
And you...
Your friend just got off the BART. You're coming to pick him up, so you slow down and you stop real quick into the bus section and throw them in the car and take off.
You will get a $250 fine.
It's illegal for anyone to use those bus lanes.
And there's a cop waiting, sitting there waiting.
It's like a speed trap.
We don't use speed traps.
We use parking traps.
And they have time to do that and just nick people because that's a profit center.
There's no profit in helping people find their lost property.
This is ridiculous.
These are public servants.
They're not supposed to be making money on the deal.
The taxes are supposed to be paying for what they do.
But no, no, they've got to pay themselves more money.
They have to get more money, so they're going to get more money by creating profit centers, overpriced public parking on the streets, these phony baloney tickets, and all this rest.
Meanwhile, they can't do anything about helping the public get their stolen property back.
This is ridiculous, and it's just getting worse.
So the TSA has come under some investigation of late, but it's very quiet.
There are 43 reports per day of people's possessions being stolen by the TSA when they're at the checkpoint.
Yeah, they're stealing laptops left and right.
But guess what?
There's a secret reimbursement program.
Listen to this.
His vacation went great.
It's the trip home that soured it all for Jason Lowe.
Yeah, plain and simple.
Flying back from Disneyland, TSA randomly selected him for extra screening.
Lowe says that's when someone must have snatched his wallet from the bin by the x-ray.
At this moment, the only people I can hold responsible is the TSA. He lost his ID, credit cards, and $500 cash.
The TSA, though, has quietly reimbursed tens of thousands of travelers who have experienced similar thefts.
Paid out more than a half million dollars last year alone.
Lowe learned about it the hard way.
I hope that it was just a passenger that grabbed it and walked off with it.
I would much rather think that than to think that an employee or an agent of TSA could have done it.
it.
So far, no one has been caught in his case.
More than a half billion bags go through TSA security checkpoints every year.
Gradually, though, fewer claims are being filed.
Of those, we have learned the TSA is rejecting more of them.
The TSA points out it only gets about 45 claims a day, despite screening two and a half million bags.
Yeah.
So, So, here's the way I read that, is the TSA, in some regards, is an organized crime unit.
They're stealing your stuff, and when they get found out, instead of having a blemish on their tainted record as is, they pay people off.
Shut up.
Just take the money.
And, of course, people take the money.
And that's pretty outrageous.
We should have some congressional hearings.
45 a day?
Really?
That's a pretty bad record.
And they got cameras all over the thing, and this is an area where security, this is a security area where you're checking people and you're making observations and you're carefully monitoring what's going on and you're worried sick some terrorist is going to get on the plane.
So it's a high security area and...
It doesn't make any sense that anything's being stolen in that area.
So there's a new book out, Attention No Agenda Book Club Maintainers, that talks about, in a way, about some of these issues.
It is about the security industry, the prison industry in these United States, with some very interesting data.
The name of this book is called The New Jim Crow.
Do you want to explain Jim Crow laws briefly, or Jim Crow, so we understand what that is for our non-Gitmo Nation West people?
These are laws that were designed to essentially put the blacks in their place.
You could put your hood back on now.
Very nice.
Well, we should absolutely be releasing people from prison rather than trying to warehouse them more cheaply.
Over the last 30 years, our prison population has exploded, has quintupled, gone from around 300,000, 350,000 to well over 2 million for reasons that have stunningly little to do with crime or crime rates.
Crime rates have fluctuated during this period, gone up, gone down, and today, as bad as crime is in many parts of the country, crime rates are at historical lows.
But incarceration rates, especially black incarceration rates, have consistently soared.
Most criminologists and sociologists today will acknowledge that crime rates and incarceration rates have moved independently of one another.
Incarceration rates have soared regardless of whether crime was going up or down in any given community or the nation as a whole.
So what does explain this prison boom?
Well, the answer is the war on drugs and the Get Tough movement, the wave of punitiveness that washed over the United States.
In fact, today, there are more people in prisons and jails just for drug offenses than were incarcerated for all reasons in 1980.
And the overwhelming majority of those swept up in this drug war have been poor folks of color, arrested and convicted of primarily non-violent, relatively minor drug offenses.
So there you go.
There's your prison industrial complex at work.
Yeah, well, we've talked about this on and off a lot.
Jim Crow laws were...
You know, this is, I guess, the modern version.
But the fact is, is that blacks in particular, in fact, there was a black prosecutor that I had clips from, and I don't know if we ever used those clips up to dig them up again, who was moaning and groaning about this, saying, you know, no matter what we do, the crime goes down, the prison population goes up.
The crime goes up, the prison population, no matter what you do, and it's mostly blacks, and much of these are people arrested for minor crimes.
Minor crimes are smoking dope.
They're in a nightclub smoking dope or smoking a crack pipe, maybe.
And they get thrown in jail because the reason for that is because they're literally blacks epitomizing slave labor.
Yeah, because you're in there and you've got to work.
You've got to work for money.
You start looking at the websites, and we should probably find a bunch of them because they're quite interesting.
In fact, there's websites that not only document...
But offer services.
Yeah, they're like the medic companies that say, well, you know, you're not getting enough money out of your prisoners.
You can also do this and that and the other thing.
And meanwhile, of course, we always point the finger at China and say, oh, they're using slave labor.
We use more slave labor in this country through the prisoners.
Than any other nation.
That's right.
And it's not just license plates anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, no.
The license plate thing is an absolute...
It's a meme meant to be kept alive.
It's a meme, yeah, license plates.
So you just feel, oh, they make license plates.
No, they do lots of work.
No, that's actually a good way to position it.
It's just slave labor.
Cheap slave labor, which the state and the country actually subsidizes.
Yeah.
And it's a big moneymaker.
I am stunned.
And then what is Obama, by the way, Obama, I believe, is a black president.
What has he done for the black community regarding this scandal?
Oh, well, you know, the whole idea is he's got to throw all the blacks in jail before the next election because they're not going to vote for him.
There's a huge...
That's another thing.
You throw one of these guys in jail and now they can never vote again in their lifetime.
Hello, everybody.
I'm going to throw you in jail.
You can't vote for me.
Yeah, there's a huge, huge uprising coming against him from the black community.
And the black business community is really, I mean, livid, livid with him.
Everyone's angry.
I think it's the beauty, the rock star Barack we see on television in Ireland and the guy from 2008 at the Westminster Abbey.
It's trying to program people.
It's trying to program dumb white people.
Not even dumb.
Just white people who aren't getting thrown in jail into thinking, oh, this is the right guy.
Yeah, that's good.
In July, we're supposed to start withdrawing troops.
Let me make a prediction.
Let me make a prediction.
What is this Adam's Prediction Day?
You're filling up the book.
Yeah, I'll say 5,000 troops we withdraw.
5,000.
I'm not giving you that one.
I'm not even going to put it in the book because that number has come up over and we've brought it up.
Did we?
Oh, I don't remember.
Okay.
5,000 is the number that's been memed by everybody.
Wouldn't it be cool if he did like 3,300?
Wouldn't that be like awesome?
Yeah, it would be, but it's going to be 5,000.
And it's going to be claimed as a great victory.
Yes.
Yes, because he's fulfilling his promises.
Very much like this one.
It is U.S. policy that Gaddafi needs to go.
But let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks.
Okay, that was...
You said that a couple days ago?
What's the deal?
Yeah, that was a couple days ago on March 21st, 2011.
I think we're the only show doing...
That tracks it.
That has tracked this to the end.
I mean, we keep...
I personally don't think we should be harping on the president's lies, but, you know, it might not be a bad idea.
No?
Well, there was a congressional hearing about this, about the War Powers Resolution of 1973 as tied to the War Powers Act.
And so there's a bill now floating in Congress, and this bill, it's a Republican bill, would reinforce the whole idea of, hey, you know, you got 60 days, after 48 hours you got to notify Congress, then you have 60 days, and then you got 30 days to clean it all up or get congressional approval to go kill people!
So Dr.
Ron Paul, I watched this for, I think it was two hours.
The following program is about two hours and 20 minutes.
That's what C-SPAN always does.
And Congressman Ron Paul talks to Rooney, who's a Republican representative from Florida.
And so what they want to do is they want to slip in some language into this bill that says, essentially, well, you know, the War Powers Resolution of 1973 tied to the War Powers Act, it can be enacted, you know, if there's an imminent threat, you know, if the securite of the United if there's an imminent threat, you know, if the securite of the United States is, if we're being threatened, or if we have some kind of agreement, like the NATO agreement, so that we don't look like douchebags
And so this is how our slowly our Constitution will be, well, slowly, radically is being eroded, so that we basically do whatever the United Nations and NATO says.
Just a little clip, as Ron Paul asks constitutional expert, Congressman Rooney of Florida about this, about this bill.
Thank you.
I would like to ask Mr.
Rooney this question.
I know you deferred and didn't want to particularly discuss Mr.
Gibson's bill, but since you've been a professor of constitutional law, I think it'd be nice to have your opinion.
That phrase that he wants to add into about obligations under treaties, would you care to make any comment about that?
Yes, certainly I think that there obviously is mention of that in the Constitution, and with regard to what you were asking before, one of the concerns that I have certainly with the The way that this president has moved forward and some of the comments that have come out of the administration that deal with kind of like the new way that we're going to go to war in the future under the Obama doctrine is if it's small,
humanitarian, we have NATO. There's no need for Congress to get involved.
And somehow, to go to your question, that trumps what our role is.
That concerns me greatly.
But again, as I said before, those words have been used by prior administrations.
This humanitarian idea was used by Clinton.
So we're not in uncharted territory and possibly...
You know, new legislation that trumps the War Powers Resolution might bring clarity, but I think that, you know, what my resolution simply says is just, you know, let's act within accordance of the law.
If the President took the time to follow the law when it came to notifying us within 48 hours, then obviously it has some interest As Representative Gibson said, in following the law, but it's where we go from there that we always sort of have the wheels come off.
And so I would just say that, you know, if we don't continue to assert ourselves, of course we have the power of the purse in the end, but...
I think that we shouldn't stop this fight just because we do or don't like the War Powers Resolution and what it says therein.
So I like what Rooney says there, but of course the whole idea of the War Powers Resolution is kind of ridiculous.
Well, the thing that gets me about this, and I said it on the show I think a couple of times, I'll say it again.
Why does Congress...
Want to take some of the powers that they have that are granted them by the Constitution and give them to the executive branch.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
It seems to me that if you're within any government situation, I mean this is why agencies get so big, Because you want to grow your power so you're more powerful.
I mean, that's the kind of...
And you have to have people preventing you from doing that.
I've never heard of the opposite, where you say, we don't really want to do anything.
Take the powers from us.
Well, of course, what happens is you've got a big mouth.
I'll give you an example.
Congressman Anthony Weiner...
He's got a big mouth.
He's telling Clarence Thomas, long dong silver pubic hair on the can of Coke guy, that he has to recuse himself from any constitutional issues that are raised about health care because of his wife's work for think tanks and connections.
You know, you've got a big mouth, and then what happens?
Oh yeah?
Oh yeah?
Stupid slave, shut up.
Here's a boner in your boxer's picture.
You know, stuff like that.
And people get worried about stuff like that.
Now, I did something as we agreed I would do on the previous show.
Wait a minute.
Stop a second.
You don't think that within a million, within any dimension that Clarence Thomas has any connection whatsoever with the boner and the boxers?
I'm thinking Long Dong Silver.
I'm thinking boner and the boxers.
Okay.
That's my connection.
That's okay.
That's fine.
You can go off in that direction.
All right.
News reports, a toll of Syrian crackdown, where more than a thousand people have been killed nationwide, including 25 children, rises to 33 in two towns.
So the code has been transmitted.
It's time to go into Syria.
This is one of our predictions.
And I promised I would bring back general...
No, it's not our prediction.
We based this whole thing based on that old clip.
Which I have queued up from General Wesley Clark on Democracy Now!
And this clip, I have people that have listened to the show.
There's a couple things about us replaying clips, by the way.
I want to say this now.
These clips have to be replayed because we have new listeners and we need to keep certain things in mind.
A. And B. They're worth listening to more than once.
I enjoy hearing this clip.
About ten days after 9-11, I went through the Pentagon, and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz.
I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in.
He said, sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second.
I said, well, you're too busy.
He said, no, no.
He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq.
This was on or about the 20th of September.
I said, we're going to war with Iraq.
Why?
He said, I don't know.
He said, I guess they don't know what else to do.
So, I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to Al Qaeda?
He said, no, no.
He says, there's nothing new that way.
They've just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.
He said, I guess it's like, we don't know what to do about terrorists, but...
We've got a good military and we can take down governments.
And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries In five years.
Starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
There you go, everybody.
That's the path to Persia.
An official plan.
Right, so we do have to do something with Syria.
Yeah.
Who's a pal of ours until recently, of course.
I think the Egypt-Tunisia thing just kind of got in the way or re-triggered the old plan.
Because once the Egypt and Tunisia thing got underway, then we created this Libyan thing, which follows that model that Clark mentioned.
And the next thing on the list would be Syria.
Yeah, particularly because the Russians have their naval base there.
Well, that's your thinking, yeah.
So they are...
The Russians, you know, this is the thing that gets me.
This is the variable.
Is the Russians, you know, how much of this are they going to put up with?
I think, you know, I think the Russians are just...
They've been through what we're doing right now.
They've been through the whole Afghanistan thing.
They've been through the bankrupt thing.
I think they're just going back and going like...
We'll just wait until you're all messed up and then we'll be the true leaders with our buddies China.
I think they're just hanging back.
They don't care.
I really don't.
They either don't care or they're in on it.
Possibly.
Possibly.
Didn't the Russians just raise their interest rates like some amazing two points or something?
I don't know.
Something weird with the finance going on there.
I've got to look into it.
Meanwhile, the Canadian news doing a pretty good job.
Did you hear what Harper came out and said?
What?
Presiding over the exit of Canadian troops from combat in Afghanistan, Prime Minister Harper yesterday said this.
Afghanistan is no longer a threat to the world.
The country may indeed still be a miserable and dangerous place for its citizens, said Harper.
But this country does not represent a geostrategic risk to world.
It is no longer a source of global terrorism.
Quite a declaration.
The question is, might it not be a little too early for such confidence?
The Americans are anxious to leave too, but they keep warning there remains much to do.
The White House says the goals remain.
Disrupt, dismantle, and ultimately defeat Al-Qaeda, and to ensure that Afghanistan would not again become a haven for terrorists.
Squirrel!
So there you go.
Canadian.
Says it's not dangerous over there.
No, we're only over there to maintain a watch on Pakistan.
I think we've listened to enough C-SPAN to realize that the reason we're in Afghanistan now is to maintain a watch on Pakistan and, of course, still protect the poppy fields because it's a huge income.
Still a big deal.
Still a big deal.
A lot of money to be made there and we're not going to let that slide.
There was something really weird that happened.
By the way, I just looked up the Russian interest rates and know their historic lows.
Their 775 was the lowest ever and it just bounced around and now it's at 825.
It's not very high.
Oh, okay.
That's why I said I wasn't sure.
I thought I'd seen some kind of weird message about that.
So, Dennis Kucinich, the congressman from Ohio, He seems to be a light of hope in Congress.
On the Democrat side.
He's the analog of Ron Paul on the Democrat side.
I actually have two clips by him.
One is, it's pretty short, talking about why we're in debt.
It's like I'm hearing Ron Paul talk, and then I have a message that C-SPAN broadcasts about him.
Why are we in debt?
We borrow trillions for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Trillions for tax cuts for the rich.
We borrow billions from China and Japan.
We have plenty of money for war, Wall Street, and welfare for the wealthy.
But when millions of honest Americans need jobs, need wage increases, need health care, need education, need retirement security, they're told, no, we don't have the money.
How is it that the Fed can create trillions of dollars to give to the banks, but the U.S. can't meet its needs without going into debt to banks?
The financial system works for a few at the expense of the many.
The founders did not intend for America to be run by big banks and Wall Street.
The Constitution put the ability to create money in the hands of Congress.
The Fed took away that power in 1913.
We need to get that power back to invest in our economy, to create jobs, to put America back to work, to rebuild America without going into debt.
We must reclaim our destiny by reclaiming control over the money system.
The gentleman's time has expired.
That's right.
And your life is going to expire if you keep talking like that.
Don't be too smart.
No, they've already gotten him so much.
He's like Ron Paul.
He's been marginalized.
Right.
Nobody covers him.
You hear that on C-SPAN. You'd never see that on a network broadcast.
Democrat.
Mind you, a Democrat.
He's always been kind of a loose cannon, and nobody pays attention to these guys.
It's all like a big scheme.
These opinions that are expressed by him are covered up, and meanwhile Anthony Weiner gets all kinds of quote-unquote ink coverage.
So Dennis Kucinich wanted to introduce a bill, a Libya War Powers bill, onto the floor.
And so, of course, while everybody is looking at Anthony Weiner's penis, we're watching C-SPAN. Even C-SPAN can barely cover it.
So this is the guy who does the following will last about an hour and 47 minutes.
One item we've been anticipating in the House was debate over the War Powers Act and a bill crafted by Congressman Kucinich of Ohio to end the war in Libya.
Well, we learned today that that resolution, H-Con Resolution 51, was pulled from the floor calendar.
Congressman Kucinich responded with this statement.
I'll read a portion.
He says, in part, the House leadership has communicated to me via email that the vote on Libya will be postponed in an effort to compel more information and consultation from the administration.
I've been asked to provide input for the information which the House will seek from the Administration.
It's clear that the Administration violated Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which reserves to Congress the power to declare war.
It is clear that the Administration is in violation of the War Powers Act, which, within a 60-day period, Requires the President to terminate military action or seek authorization from Congress to continue the military action.
Congress needs to act to defend the Constitution and the statute.
And he concludes, I look forward to the time when we will debate House concurrent Resolution 51 and the constitutional and statutory issues surrounding the war power.
We will keep you posted on whether this bill gets re-added to the House agenda.
There's your news, everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's the only place this was reported.
The announcer on C-SPAN. The announcer yet.
The announcer.
The one hour.
This show will last one hour, Guy.
It's always about an hour.
It'll last about an hour.
No, it's about an hour and 47 minutes and 32 seconds.
About.
Which will be followed by a really boring program.
Yeah, no, this is a scandal.
Of course it's a scandal.
And they sent him an email.
Yeah, I love that.
Why don't they send him a text message on his phone?
Just tweet it.
Hey, ears.
Hey, Dennis ears.
Forget about it, dude.
We're pulling this.
We're pulling this from the calendar.
Yeah.
And, you know, meanwhile, all the stupid human resources.
You can be sure that was bipartisan.
I mean, only Ron Paul would probably be on the side.
I mean, the two of them should team up.
They should get married.
Run for president, vice president is what they should do, but that's never going to happen.
They got no money.
They got no money.
You can't do it.
You got no money.
They won't get any money because nobody ever says the whole thing is rigged.
Now, as we're drawing to the end of the program here, What is going on down under in Australia?
I hold Australia and their values very highly.
I like the Aussies.
They play hard, work hard, fight hard, drink hard.
They do all kinds of stuff really hard.
And they have their own version of football, which is actually quite entertaining.
Yeah, where you get beat up and stuff.
It's amazing.
I like them.
I've only been there once, but I really fell in love with the country and them.
By the way, it's not easy to...
I've checked.
If you want to go move to Australia, you have to have, no joke, a college degree, and you have to have some special talents and skills, or $2 million or some crap like that.
It's not easy.
You want just to move there?
Yeah, if you want to go live there, yeah.
The immigration laws are very tough.
That may have changed, but what I was reading seems like that's the deal.
So in Victoria, the province of Victoria, where the VBs come from, the Victoria bidders, there is a new law on the books.
That will be implemented by the police, and the police can hand out fines immediately.
So very much like here in Los Angeles, if you round the corner at the wrong time of day, you get a $243 fine.
Here's what is going on in Victoria.
For new laws to be introduced to the Victorian Parliament this week, police will have the power to issue on-the-spot fines to people using indecent language.
But even Attorney General Robert Clark admits he's used the odd swear word.
Occasionally I mutter things under my breath, as probably everybody does, but this law is not targeted at that.
It's targeted at the sort of obnoxious, offensive behaviour in public that makes life unpleasant for everybody else.
The reforms are part of the Bailey Government's broader law and order agenda, which includes minimum jail terms for 16 and 17-year-olds convicted of violent crimes and protective security officers at suburban police stations.
Robert Clark says the new swear jar should make it easier for police to deal with anti-social behaviour.
Clearly this sort of loutish, obnoxious behaviour can be very off-putting for many members of the public going about their ordinary business in public places.
It's contributing to a growing level of anti-social behaviour that Victoria's been experiencing over the last 10 years or so and this will give the police the tools they need to be able to act against this sort of obnoxious behaviour off the spot.
I mean, is this Australia?
Tools!
Tools!
Yeah, I said poop.
Hey!
Can you believe this?
I mean, excuse me.
I've been to Australia.
There's a swear word every five words.
And it's how they talk.
And it's cool.
And it's with that cool accent.
It doesn't even sound bad.
And so what will the word be?
What's a swear word?
And they call it the swear jar.
There may be more to this they might explain.
To drag offenders off to court and take up the time and money proceeding in the court.
But Tiffany Overall from Youth Law says young people feel they're being targeted.
The reality is that young people...
More commonly using public spaces and sort of other...
Whatever.
Of course.
You know, that brings up a point when she said targeted, is that when you have a situation, Russia's known for this, where basically there's so many onerous laws that you're essentially in violation of the law.
All the time.
I mean, that's starting to happen in this country.
It's definitely happening here.
Where you're basically, there's something you're doing, whatever it is at any given point, you're doing something illegal, and all they have to do is target you.
Yeah.
And say, well, you know, let's go get him.
And because you know there's always something, so if they're just targeting him, if everyone's cussing, then the cops can selectively say, hey, fat boy, and go over there and give that guy a ticket.
Hey, fat boy, you're too fat.
Yeah, but the cussing thing is out of control.
I mean, that's free speech.
It's just words.
No, but there are members of the public who are offended by all this.
I'm offended by such a usage!
So, thank you.
We'll use that as the opening.
Thank you very much.
I knew it was.
I'm actually doing those now.
Just to get the opening space.
You just want to be there.
Alright, quick rundown.
Narcolepsy now, 93 people in Sweden, most of them children.
This started in Finland, the first reports, after receiving the GlaxoSmithKline flu shot.
Kids have been falling asleep.
And this is narcolepsy.
It's very serious.
I don't think there's any cure for narcolepsy.
Is there, John?
There's no cure for it.
Yeah, narcoleptic people usually get a stiff prescription of ProVigil.
Oh, good.
Does Glaxo make that as well?
I don't know who makes it.
You can look it up.
So the World Health Organization, finally.
How long have we been talking about this?
Three, four months?
The World Health Organization now says, hey, yeah, we're going to look into that.
Yeah, okay.
Can I make a prediction?
That there will be absolutely no link between the swine flu vaccine and narcolepsy.
It'll all be coincidence.
I'll put it in.
Don't even put it in.
No, I'm going to, because that actually will come up, and I believe it should be in the book.
Yeah.
And the EU, the United States of Europe, is now going to review the safety of aspartame.
Can I make another prediction?
Completely safe.
Not a problem.
Eat all the aspartame you want.
It's good for you.
Now they're just moving into our territory.
Just lie about it.
Ministry of truth.
It's all safe.
It's all safe.
You know, the thing that's going on right now that's kind of disconcerting is the new E. coli.
Yeah, this thing in Germany.
I have a report.
I have two reports.
So the thing that's weird about it is that it apparently...
So it's killed like 16 people now in Germany.
Now I've gotten notes from people in Gitmo Nation, Deutschland, and they say, hey, you know, whatever reports you're seeing, we're freaking out over here because this is your veggies.
This is your cucumbers.
They don't know, though.
That's the joke of it.
They don't know, and they screwed Spain by some false report saying it's Spanish cucumbers.
Well, listen to the report, and then we can discuss.
Nobody knows the exact source, so many react with fear.
In Spain, cucumbers are being thrown away by the cartload.
The country's been accused of being the source of the deadly strain of E. coli.
So veg traders destroy produce to try to...
Veg traders.
How's that one feel for you, John?
Veg traders.
...preserve their reputation.
Others assert their food is safe, but demand more information.
An alarm like this can't be raised without having reliable information.
We don't have it, neither does Germany, and neither does the European Union.
Vegetable markets in Germany have suffered.
This market manager says tomatoes and cucumbers all safe here.
Scientists are trying to identify the strain of E. coli.
One possibility is that it's come from food that health conscious women eat.
Cucumbers because they're low calorie.
So this is what's interesting is that this is apparently women are dying of this.
This doesn't attack everybody but primarily women.
Which is kind of weird.
No, they think it's because of what he explained, which is something...
Because more women eat healthy.
That's what he's trying to say.
But the problem is there's enough cases of this and epidemiological models should be in play showing where it's centered and where it's coming from.
And you should by now, you'd think, I mean, in the United States, I mean, we're isolating stuff within weeks.
Generally speaking, it's always a farm in Salinas, but that's beside the point.
Damn those Salinas farms.
But we tend to find the place pretty quickly and they seem to be completely befuddled by the whole thing.
Or perhaps women are just particularly susceptible to this strain of the bug.
At present, mostly adult people, young adults and preferably women are severely affected.
I like the use of the word preferably women.
Hello?
Preferably?
He says preferably.
Well, that's probably some arcane usage that we're not familiar with.
Or maybe he just wants it to be...
He wants all women to die!
Listen!
Young adults and preferably women...
I'm telling you, preferably women.
We have preferably women are going to die from this ugly virus.
...are severely affected.
The reason for this is still unknown.
There is some very sophisticated scientific investigation going on to try to identify the...
This is great.
So they show a guy with a couple of Petri dishes.
Very sophisticated investigation.
But the real work is old-fashioned detective work, asking all the victims what they ate, when they ate it.
Is that proper English, ate?
What they ate, when they ate it.
Isn't it ate?
Well, I would say ate, when they ate it.
What did you ate this morning?
Where they bought it and trying to find a pattern.
In the absence of hard evidence, many sources come under suspicion.
Until the source is definitely identified, the best advice remains, use the utmost hygiene when preparing food.
Stephen Evans, BBC News, Berlin.
So, but E. coli, I mean, can you wash that off?
I mean, this is, it's cucumbers, tomatoes, lettuce, and aubergines is what they're warning for.
Theoretically, you could unless it's inside the fruit, which is always a possibility because it can get in through different mechanisms.
But you can cook it.
Once it's cooked, it's okay.
I don't like my cucumbers cooked.
You may have to do that.
There are other uses for cucumbers.
Mm-hmm.
Anyway, so...
That's how I started the show, in case you didn't notice my opening line.
I'm glad we have a throwback at the very end of the show.
Beautiful.
So, you should...
It's kind of coincidental.
A friend of mine sent me a link.
I just sent it to you, which we'll put in the show notes, called TravelTrots.co.uk, and it's an interactive map of areas of massive diarrhea.
Mm-hmm.
Very interesting, actually.
The funny thing is, they believe that this E. coli came out of Africa.
Really?
Who's they?
Who's they?
They.
The mysterious they.
This is a great site.
There's a ticket that pops up on my screen.
It's an airline ticket from Brown Air.
Did you look at this site?
I didn't get the brown area.
It is diarrhea destinations.
Off on your travels?
Don't let the travel trots ruin your trip.
Oh my goodness.
Click on a continent, then country, to see how likely you are to get diarrhea.
Let's click on Europe.
Click on one of the middle African countries.
I'm clicking on Europe.
Germany.
Nice sound effects.
5% of respondents had it.
This is bogus.
5%?
It's like they're saying it's safe.
I mean, it's safe in Germany.
I like the sound effects of this.
This is pretty good.
Anyway, it's just a funny site, but it's in the news.
Let's put it that way.
The E. coli seems to have been some...
I'm sorry.
That's your website.
A new strain of E. coli that's not good.
Well, the World Health Organization has weighed in.
I have a quick clip of them.
Well, the outbreak doesn't look as though it's increasing rapidly.
The Germans and the Europeans think it may well have peaked.
Don't worry everybody, it's all safe.
We are from the World Health Organization, nothing to fear.
But, of course, because there's an incubation period between being exposed and falling ill, which might be as long as two weeks, the outbreak will look as though it's going on, look as though it's increasing in size, when in fact perhaps, perhaps, the suspect food, whatever that is, has been taken off the market.
Only time will tell.
We know about these kidney complications.
It's a new strain.
Is it a more vicious strain?
Well, so far it looks as though it may well be.
I think we'll have to wait and see until all the dust has settled before we can be certain of that.
But it certainly is as nasty as any of these particular kinds of E. coli that we've seen in the past.
The proportion of people getting the hemolytic uremic syndrome, which is the kidney complication, affects the blood and goes on sometimes to affect the brain and the heart, seems to be really quite high in this outbreak.
In fact, very high in this outbreak.
And it's affecting people outside the normal risk groups, the very young and the very old as well.
As long as we're killing women, that's all groovy, that's preferable.
I don't know.
I'm not alarmist in this, but I think it's weird how we're not seeing immediate huge response, big news stories.
Maybe it's still forthcoming.
Maybe the penis thing with the boner and the boxers was just too much for Wolf Blitzer to handle anything else.
But I do know that in Gitmo Nation, Deutschland, and now Gitmo Nation East, people are starting to freak out.
They're very worried.
And we have to track down the source, right?
Kind of like the ground zero of this E. coli.
Yeah, you have to track down the source.
Now, it could have been some one tainted supply of one type of food that could be, you know, gotten parsley for all you know, that got into the food supply and it got eaten up and that was the end of it.
And, you know, then it'll disappear and we'll never know what happened, which is a possibility, at least the way that guy describes it.
But generally speaking...
You should be able to figure, you know, there's got to be somebody that can figure this out.
I mean, it didn't just mysteriously appear out of the blue all over the place.
Well, maybe we just want to kill off the women and reduce the population.
Seems preferable.
Preferably, yeah.
Preferably, it seems exactly what we want to do.
And I've got to hurry up because I've got to get the show up and then we're off to go get the rental van.
And Sunday, well, hopefully there will be a show.
And say hi to the listeners in Palm Springs, California.
And Death Valley.
Hey, by the way, just outside of Palm Springs, as you're heading there on that road, there is a shopping, there's a mall outlet mall on the left side of the freeway just before you get to Palm Springs.
That is one of the best in California.
You should go there and buy something.
And what should I buy?
I don't know.
Whatever you're thinking, whatever you buy at an outlet mall.
Okay, fine.
So, be careful what you do with that cucumber, everybody.
And we will be back with you, coming from the Gitmo Nation Hot Pockets Across America 2008 tour van, the test van on Sunday.
Currently here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I did have something clever to say, but I lost it in the shuffle somewhere.
Maybe next week I'll have it.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk to you again on Sunday, right here on No Agenda.
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