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	I don't like shooting myself.
	I'm sorry.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, August 5th, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 223.
	This is no agenda.
	In a tiny beach shack coming to you from the Diver's Paradise Crackpot Command Center just 35 kilometers north of Allo Presidente in the Netherlands Antilles.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I don't expect this call to last more than five minutes because of the connection, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackbot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	I give it like ten minutes, actually.
	Yeah, it was ten minutes the last time it crapped out.
	Yeah, in the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to you, and in the morning to all the ships at sea.
	And, of course, our human resources, who should be all charged up and ready.
	Your government needs you, nice and charged.
	Yeah, that's what they need.
	Charged.
	Yeah, they need charging.
	So, the one thing I forgot to do amongst all this is Twitter.
	Have you done that?
	No, you just retweet me.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me do that.
	Of course, I'm afraid to do anything at this point.
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	It's done.
	It's too late.
	It's all over.
	So, we have a bunch of...
	Oh, in fact, that's funny.
	Yes.
	And there we go.
	We've already lost John.
	At least we got the opening down.
	Let me see if I can bring him back into the fold here.
	This may just not work.
	Hold on.
	I was right.
	Five minutes.
	Actually, that's no good.
	You sound terrible.
	Well, yeah, it wasn't even five minutes.
	It was like two minutes.
	Well, you're back.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know what it is?
	You mentioned Allo Presidente and immediately they flipped the switch on me.
	It's like, hey, those crackpots are too close.
	We've got to turn them off.
	All right.
	So we'll see how long it lasts, but I don't have a very good feeling about it all.
	I do, however, have a brand new jingle to share with you, John.
	Hit it.
	It's another Jeff Smith spectacular.
	Adam Curry, former Soviet spy.
	Yes?
	Yeah, I like it.
	It doesn't do me any good, but it's okay.
	Of course not.
	It's not meant for you.
	It was meant for me.
	So, up here, or down here, I should say, in...
	What would this portion of Gitmo Nation be?
	That's a good question.
	Island.
	I don't know.
	I don't know, because we're, you know, as I said, we're about 35 clicks north of Venezuela.
	Although officially on...
	Ah, fuck me.
	All right, well, let's just...
	You know, if it drops out again, then I have one other option.
	If, if...
	I got my bat signal.
	That worked.
	The push notification came through.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, yeah, you know, it's the island life, my friend.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I guess that's out as a permanent residence.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that does kind of put a bummer on the whole thing.
	Yeah, because we were having a conversation last night, and Mickey wanted to just stay there, move there.
	Yeah, well, that ain't going to happen if we have this.
	They don't have 3G on the island either, unfortunately.
	They have GPRS. So I am overlooking the most beautiful blue-green ocean I've ever seen.
	And it's been quite peaceful.
	I have unfortunately not been able to actually watch Allo Presidente's show.
	They don't carry it here.
	Oh no!
	Yeah, it's a real bummer.
	We do have Bravo.
	I think Mickey was able to find Kardashians.
	So all is well.
	That's why she doesn't mind moving here.
	The Kardashians can be received.
	Yuck.
	How can you watch that show?
	Yeah, so what's going on stateside?
	Well, they passed the gay...
	The gay marriage thing was turned down by the local judge.
	Yeah.
	Proposition 8, which is a big deal in California.
	And now there's going to be this huge battle, but I've actually made a clip about this because there's a little gotcha in here in the way this guy's approaching this that I think is very interesting.
	And nobody I know of has picked up on it yet.
	And if you want to play the clip, which is the...
	Gay marriage rundown?
	Yeah.
	And see if you can spot in here a little...
	This is a long clip, but you wanted clips for the show.
	But see if you can spot the very interesting little tidbit in here that says to me, oh, that's interesting.
	We can use that for other uses, I'm thinking...
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	Because marriage gives so many rights to the various couples who can marry, it's very important that we're clear about which couples have those rights and which do not.
	And you can't sort of have rights one day and have them taken away the next day, etc.
	So I do think it's very important that we...
	They take away rights all the time.
	They take away your passport.
	The hell is that?
	Yeah, I know, it's bogus.
	Get some clarity on this, and I think that's probably why Judge Walker said, okay, I'll take another look at it and decide whether to stay my ruling.
	Professor Nice, I just want to follow up about the judge, because there was some criticism about Judge Walker outside the courthouse today.
	For those who don't know, he's 65 years old, appointed by the first president, Bush, in 89.
	But he is gay, and there were those who said, well, he actually had made up his mind before the trial ever began.
	Is there grounds for appeal based on that?
	It seems pretty unlikely.
	In fact, if you look at the ruling, it's 138 pages.
	It's a fairly thorough and detailed analysis of the evidence that was presented at the trial.
	I mean, people can criticize Judge Walker, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the decisions about how to defend this case.
	The state attorney general and the state governor refused to defend the case.
	The lawyers that were representing the proponents of Prop 8 really argued religious beliefs and moral disapproval.
	And whether you like it or not, those things are actually not allowed as a defense to a law.
	Our Constitution simply does not allow moral disapproval alone as a reason to interfere with any group's Constitution.
	John, just hold on a second.
	So did they pass Prop 8 or did they vote it down?
	What happened here?
	No, Prop 8 was passed, and that banned gay marriage in the state of California.
	And so then a judge, of course, because the gays wanted, you know, wanted to, they don't want this law.
	And so the other side wants the law.
	And so they went to a judge who happens to be gay, but it was a Bush judge.
	Which they kind of slipped in there.
	That's okay.
	He did a fairly thorough job.
	But it was largely, it was always expected this to go to the Supreme Court so they can make it, you know, kind of stick around for other states.
	So there's a plot afoot.
	But what the judge said, which was interesting to me, I don't know if we got to that in the clip yet, but was the rationale.
	He says, look, you can't make a moral judgment.
	That can't be your only defense.
	Right, because that's unconstitutional.
	Yeah, you can't just say, well, it's because I don't like it, you know, because I think it's, you know, whatever.
	Well, I'm thinking, well, doesn't this same kind of thinking apply to laws against prostitution, drugs?
	Yeah, just because you don't like it, exactly.
	So is this precedent going to show up?
	I mean, I don't know how far you can take this logic, but this sort of logic that it's like, you know, there's a law against prostitution, and the only reason for that law is for moral reasons.
	It's a morality thing, just like what we're seeing here.
	But how come we're having the conversation after the fact?
	So it passes and now we have the logical conversation.
	Well, it passes because the public voted for it.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	I mean, we in California, we can pass any law we want to.
	We're through referendums and initiatives.
	But the fact of the matter is that it gets appealed as an unconstitutional law.
	And then if the rationale for it being unconstitutional has to do with morality, Then can't we apply that thinking to other laws?
	I find it kind of interesting that I was, maybe a related news story, the guy who leaked all these documents to WikiLeaks, now they're kind of pulling, well, this exposes, he was angry about gays in the military, because he was gay, and that's why he wanted to become a whistleblower and get all this stuff out there, be related somehow.
	I honestly don't think so, but it is an interesting coincidence.
	Whatever the case is, this is the big story, and of course now it's going to the Ninth Circuit, which is crazy, and a known crazy court.
	And so anything can come out of there, but it doesn't make any difference, because whatever happens to the next thing is going to be appealed again until it gets to the Supreme Court, and they're going to try to rush it to the Supreme Court where they have the voters on their side, even though nobody knows how many of these guys are going to really vote on anything.
	Hmm.
	So now that we appear to have a stable connection coming to you from down south, almost in Venezuela, perhaps we should do a quick mention of our executive producers, if we have any, and any other executive producer or associates?
	Yeah, we have a ton.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	I have to open up a new file, though.
	You're so prepared for the show.
	No, I was prepared, and Eric just sent me another copy of the spreadsheet because there was some stuff missing on it.
	And so I just got it, and then I opened it, and then it says, you can have two spreadsheets of the same name open at the same time.
	So I had to close one of them, and then close the other one, and I had to reopen it.
	It's not a matter of being prepared.
	Okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
	Calm down.
	Just telling you that these machines, you know, are picky.
	So we have three executive executive producers.
	As in single line executive producers?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Because they each gave us $1,000.
	Holy crap.
	Yeah, pretty amazing.
	I should go on vacation more often.
	You should just stay out of town and we'll do just fine.
	All right.
	Executive producer.
	Wow, okay.
	Who we got going on here?
	Mark Dytham, D-Y-T-H-A-M, who was actually given this as a gift from his partner, Astrid Klein.
	These are two hot shot big time architects in Tokyo.
	Yeah.
	And I like their stuff.
	We should have them design a house for us, but I think they don't look cheap.
	Anyway, Mark gets it because, according to Astrid, he deserves a big pat on the back for always challenging the status quo and taking us out on a limb with his amazing visionary ideas.
	Adam can testify to this, says, It is invariably stressful to deal with so many unknowns at once, but deep down we know it's only the right thing to do, and in the end we'll get satisfaction.
	No money in the world can pay for it.
	Still nobody wants to be in the red either, and so now we can't live without your shows, whether No Agenda, DH Unplugged, thank you very much.
	Daily Source Code, or Tech 5, thank you very much.
	So please keep it coming in that stance, and get that stand for the cowbell.
	And she says, also, that you can give Mark the knighthood, but she gets the ring.
	She says it'll look better on her.
	Okay.
	That's a subtle hint, John.
	Indeed.
	Chris Jacob in San Francisco, California.
	Please make this donation on behalf of Bullseye USA. Wow!
	We know Chris Jacob.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he used to work at Mevio.
	Or at Podshow, I would say.
	He wants Bullseye USA plugged.
	BullseyeUSA.com.
	What is it?
	What is BullseyeUSA.com?
	It's an official firearm store of the No Agenda Knights.
	I don't think it's the same Chris Jacob.
	So Chris goes from sales to...
	Well, I guess firearm sales is the same thing, right?
	Is it the same Chris Jacob?
	Do we know that for a fact?
	Yes!
	Yes, it is!
	Was Chris a gun nut?
	Well, I know he's been a No Agenda listener for a long time.
	You know what?
	I got a note from him.
	He said he was doing something new.
	He did say, watch the PayPal donation soon.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that must be Chris.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So now he's a...
	And I don't mean gun nut in the pejorative, by the way.
	I like shooting myself.
	I don't like shooting myself.
	I'm sorry.
	See, this is where I can't get to my jingles quick enough.
	You know, because someone's going to clip it.
	Well, John's just...
	Gonna go shoot himself.
	And all it took was two shots to the head and we dropped the connection.
	All right, Bullseye, you were saying...
	Yeah, you were saying...
	You know, I shot you two in the head when you dropped out.
	Okay, well, anyway, thank you, KJ. Yeah, KJ. Chris Jacob, awesome.
	And finally, the last executive producer will be Matthew...
	Actually, I don't know who to give this to, but Matthew Petty gets the knighthood.
	This is one of Paul Couture, who is doing the coin product.
	Oh, from nowheretofans.com, yeah, exactly.
	He's getting us 12 knights.
	And noagendafans.com for anyone who wants to take a look at the challenge coin.
	So go to noagendachallengecoin at noagendafans.com.
	And the night will be Matthew Petty.
	And then we have executive producers.
	Two more, but these are together.
	Sean Connolly, Naperville, Illinois, 33333.
	And...
	Hi-Fi Yang is what it looks like to me, but Jeffrey.
	But it says hi-fi for some unknown reason here.
	Anyways, Jeffrey from New York, 33-33.
	And last time I complained, he says that he wants too many karma points.
	He's asked for the same job, health, and family, karma.
	And it's a double salute to Adam for living on...
	Some.
	On we, the producers.
	On what?
	Living on what?
	On we, the producers.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, no, exactly.
	Oh, living on the producers.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's like my only income.
	Yeah, good point.
	He's got an annuity, too.
	I figured after a sixth executive producer show, this one will be a drought.
	My bucket of water and joy.
	In fact, it was just the opposite.
	This is so inconsistent.
	It would be nice if it was a little more stable.
	John Snyder, Sir John Snyder, Chicago.
	I'm sorry.
	Sean Connolly and Jeffrey Yang are executive producers.
	And then we have associate executive producers, John Snyder.
	Okay.
	Chicago 234 and RealtimeData.com, which is an associate executive producer, 222.22.
	Let me just get this right.
	Sir John Snyder is associate executive producer, RealtimeData.com.
	Okay, and what was the final one?
	Was that it?
	No, that's just two.
	Two associates and three standalones and two...
	This is like a real show with all these crazy credits.
	It is, yeah.
	Watch the beginning of Law and Order sometime and try to figure out who actually does the show.
	Okay, so...
	We're going to have to have the boxed credit.
	That's still my favorite.
	Alright, so, as all of you know, these are very official credits.
	You can use them in your correspondence for jobs.
	We will vouch for you because, of course...
	There it goes.
	Yeah.
	Am I still with you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Unlike a Hollywood credit, you can actually talk to the creators of the show and get them on the phone and we'll vouch for you.
	So thank you very much.
	Our executive...
	I'll just do them in a row here.
	Executive producer Mark Ditham.
	Executive producer Chris Jacob of BullseyeUSA.com.
	Executive producer Matthew Petty.
	And then our executive producers, this is a separate line in the credit roll, Sean Connolly, Jeffrey Yang, Right?
	Did I miss anyone there?
	And then Associate Executive Producer Sir John Snyder and RealTimeData.com.
	All the rest of you out there, you know what you have to do.
	You gotta go out and propagate the formula.
	It is extremely simple.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out.
	We hit people in the mouth.
	All right, everyone, say it along now.
	Shut up, slaves.
	I'm waiting for it to crap out any minute now.
	Oh, yeah, you're at the point where it's going to die.
	It's about time to die once again.
	Fun to edit the show.
	Yeah, it's going to take me two hours to edit.
	The upload will be even more fun, actually.
	That should take a better part of the afternoon.
	By the way, I'm three hours ahead here right now.
	It's 1235 in the afternoon.
	It's still in the morning for you.
	And, but, interestingly enough, this, you know, Allo Presidente, Hugo Chavez, has made some noise about Bonaire, where we are right now.
	Oh, he wants to take over the island?
	Well, actually, on 10-10-10, it becomes an official...
	What's that?
	10-10 day.
	That's a big deal.
	That's a Chinese lucky day.
	No, it's a huge day.
	On 10-10-10, it becomes a full municipality of the Netherlands.
	So right now, I guess it's kind of like a colony-type deal, where it's part of the Netherlands.
	Oh, it's actually going to be like a county?
	So you're like going to be in Holland?
	Yeah, it will be no different from, say, North Holland.
	This will be its own county.
	And the Dutch will be as if they didn't already.
	But they'll be...
	Running the things down here.
	And Hugo's saying, oh yeah, well that's interesting that it actually won't be a part of NATO. So he's saying, oh nice, just bring on some of those warships and airplanes down here and they're flying over my airspace all the time anyway.
	So he popped up right out of nowhere making some news about it.
	Huh, interesting.
	And you've got to think, why are they doing it?
	Why is the Dutch government, or the non-existent Dutch government, why are they all of a sudden deciding to do this on this lucky day of all days?
	I have no idea.
	I mean, obviously the USA told them to.
	Yeah.
	Or the EU told them to.
	Somebody told them to.
	Yeah.
	Because I don't know why, you know, we haven't done that with Puerto Rico.
	No.
	No.
	And so anyway, so the Netherlands Antilles Gilder will disappear, and they will only accept the dollar.
	They won't be taking the euro, obviously.
	So you can already pay with dollars here on the island.
	Pegged the Netherlands Antille Gilder, which is kind of funny, they're still using that, is pegged to the dollar at 179.
	And yeah, it's going to be a full-blown county.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, that's about all the news I have from here, John.
	That's about it.
	Well, that's what you do on an island.
	Yeah, you don't do much else than...
	Oh, but I must say, this place is amazing.
	It is the...
	They call it the diver's paradise because, well, there's good diving around here.
	And what's great about it is there's no beach.
	That's why there's no huge tourism with big hotels and stuff because, you know, people like to hang it on the beach and basically it's just you drop off the edge and you're in the coral.
	And speaking of dropping off...
	Yeah, well, we're on a roll.
	We're on a roll.
	We're rocking here, baby.
	Awesome.
	I don't remember what I was talking about.
	You're talking about the beach.
	Yeah, so...
	You could have continued the chat because I was dozing off.
	Okay, well, no, but it's kind of nice because it's an island which is fantastic.
	It's a great place to be, but the reason why there's no huge tourism here is because there is no beach.
	You know, so there's no big hotels.
	It's only people who come and dive, and the only tourists who are here are underwater.
	So it's beautiful.
	Oh, so there's no like a beach where you have a bunch of...
	Oh, that's interesting.
	No, no, no.
	That's what makes it so awesome.
	And there's only like one flight a day that comes in.
	No, it's perfect.
	It makes it awesome that there's nothing to do but dive?
	You're a diver?
	No, I'm a snorkeler.
	Oh, okay.
	No, but it's beautiful.
	It's sunny.
	We've gone sailing.
	No, it's great.
	It's great.
	But there's just, you know, no tourists.
	Of course, the only people who are here are Dutch, which is a downer.
	And I mean that well for our friends in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	I'm not slamming you too hard, but yeah, that's kind of a downer.
	But otherwise, no, it's great.
	And there's just absolutely no news.
	There's nothing going on here.
	You don't get CNN? I haven't turned on the TV at all, except to find Allo Presidente.
	So, uh, let's take some clips in since we got some stuff here.
	Okay.
	Uh, you know, there's a, uh, we did a piece of the shale and the oil or the gas, you know, there's cracking, the fracking.
	Yeah, that, uh, that basically makes your water flammable.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's finally gotten into the network news.
	It's moved up the scale because I told you once it started hitting New York where these New Yorkers are, when they make a fuss, it starts to get a little more mainstream.
	And so it's finally hitting the network news.
	I saw that HBO actually had a special about it the other day.
	Did you see that one?
	Yeah, they're going after these guys.
	But here, play the Marcel Schalefield clip, and that'll keep us on the air for a few more minutes.
	There's a controversial provision tucked inside the energy bill working its way through the Senate, and it's pitting some natural gas drillers against environmentalists.
	The bill requires drillers to say what chemicals they're putting in the ground to help break up shale rock and extract natural gas.
	Well, the issue has hit a nerve along the Marcellus Shale Reserve.
	This is a deep rock deposit rich in natural gas that runs beneath New York State, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
	Now, until recently, the shale gas was hard to reach, but technology is changing that.
	And as Stephanie Dew reports, people in the town of Hickory, Pennsylvania, are caught in the middle, hungry for natural gas profits, but worried about the impact of drilling.
	Stephanie Hollowich built a house three years ago on top of a Marcellus shale field.
	She didn't know there was already a contract for the mineral rights under her land.
	From a ridge above her house, you can see gas wells, a compressor station, and wastewater containment site.
	There's so many what-ifs in that contract.
	It doesn't talk about pipelines and compressor stations and processing plants and 24-hour traffic and noise and dust, what people are dealing with every day.
	She's worried about the impact it's having on her kids.
	Save the children, please.
	...who aren't allowed to play outside unless the windsock is blowing away from the house.
	The family buys the water it uses because of fears their well water is contaminated.
	We still don't know exactly what we're being exposed to.
	The development of shale gas wells is done in stages.
	First, the lease rights must be secured, then a well is drilled.
	To efficiently drill in shale, the well is drilled down 8,000 feet and then about a mile horizontally.
	After the well is drilled comes the fracking, which involves sending water That fracking process is suspected of contaminating water.
	Ron Gula had one of the region's first horizontally drilled wells on his 141 acre farm.
	He claims the drilling company polluted his pond.
	I don't know what all they used up here.
	You've got to realize this was a second horizontal done.
	This was all experimental.
	We are the guinea pigs.
	Who knows what they were using up here?
	I have no idea.
	We're not privy to that information.
	How do we not spend time blaming people but find a way to restore, to find some...
	Okay, so at least they got the whole clip in.
	So this is just going to reach ahead.
	This can't continue.
	It's crap.
	Now we can try it a little bit longer.
	No, no, I'm not talking about that.
	I'm talking about the fracking.
	Oh, yeah, well, but the thing that she didn't, she didn't talk about the flammable water.
	She only talked about the noise and the dust.
	Well, yeah, and another guy came on.
	He didn't have the flammable water, but he had water that stunk.
	I think the flammable water is just an anomaly in some areas.
	I don't know, man, because I watched that HBO special, and that was pretty outrageous.
	You know, just turning tap water on in the sink and lighting it is, I would say, concerning at best.
	I would say, oh, you can't drink that stuff.
	If you don't, you're going to have a flame out.
	So you see now the network news going after them?
	Well, that was Nightly Business Report, but I think it's headed to the networks and it's going to be all over for these guys.
	The public can't tolerate this.
	No.
	And will we see this in Los Angeles as well?
	I don't think there's fracking going on in Los Angeles.
	Well, there's lots of oil drilling on the way to the airport.
	I don't know if they're fracking.
	It's just the wet stuff.
	It's different.
	It's like a pool of it.
	They just pump it out.
	I mean, that's not the same as this thing where you crack it and crack all the shale.
	You change the structure of the earth beneath you.
	And then you pump this gas that pockets up here and there out of there.
	It's just that the whole thing is artificial.
	Well, we'll have to keep our eye on it.
	Are you irked about the oil wells in L.A.? No, not at all.
	I have my water filtered, reverse osmosis, and all that stuff.
	Oh, by the way, I saw a report that they're bringing up the old put the lithium in the water again.
	Who's putting lithium in the water?
	Well, Japan was doing it, and now they're testing that again in Texas.
	Well, Texas has natural lithium in the water.
	No, but they're actually adding it to the water, and they're saying, well, you know, it's the whole less suicides thing.
	It's like, yeah, it's good.
	It's good.
	It'll be less suicides.
	It's really good.
	And, you know, all you good little slaves, you should like it.
	We've got your fluoride.
	You like that, don't you?
	It's good for your teeth.
	This is good for your brain.
	Yeah, well, I'm not, I haven't followed it, so I don't know.
	Let's find another clip while we have the minute in front of us.
	There's a meme starting up.
	There's two things going on.
	One is they're trying to convince us that we're leaving a rock any minute.
	Oh, right.
	In August, right?
	August 31st?
	Yeah, end of August.
	Yeah, okay.
	And so Katie Couric had a big report.
	This week I listened to, I learned a couple of things.
	Like last week I listened to the left-wing talk shows, the week before the right-wing talk shows.
	This week I listened to the network people.
	And I found out one interesting thing about network news.
	Almost every single commercial nowadays is a drug commercial for anybody who watches network news.
	It's unbelievable.
	In fact, I have a series of clips.
	Just two, three clips in it.
	There's like three little commercials.
	Two thirty seconds.
	This is the only kind of commercials they play.
	You'll find it in the clip that's called...
	Commercial Interruptions?
	Yeah, play that.
	For strong bones, I take calcium.
	But my doctor told me that most calcium supplements aren't absorbed properly unless taken with food.
	He recommended CitraCal.
	It's different.
	It's calcium citrate, so it can be absorbed with or without food.
	CitraCal.
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	We don't need to listen to the whole thing.
	That's a long one.
	But the point is, this is all they play.
	And for people out there who enjoy the fact that we like to deconstruct things, you have to remember that when you're watching television, commercial television, the commercials are aimed at the audience that the show is aimed for.
	Which is idiots.
	So if you're watching a thing with CitraCal for people who are losing their bones, and they're belching all the time, so they have to take Pepsid AC or whatever it is, and then they can't breathe, that means that you're watching a show that's actually really old people.
	Well, and isn't it amazing, John, that after the historic health care bill is passed, that all of a sudden we have all these drug commercials?
	Could that be related?
	I think that these commercials before the healthcare, I think it's been going on for years.
	Yeah, but I agree with you.
	It seems to be the only thing that we're getting these days.
	And they're pulling it.
	It all stops out of everything.
	As we pointed out on the last show, selling vitamin B as a prescription medicine.
	I have a feeling it's related to healthcare.
	I really do.
	I think that these guys are just like, yeah, it's going to be great.
	It's all going to be awesome for us.
	So meanwhile, these news shows are pushing kind of two or three agendas that are kind of interesting.
	One of them is the idea that we're leaving Iraq but not quite, and they're trying to get us used to the fact that it's not quite.
	And this Katie Couric report, I cut a little bit so it's not so damn long, because this is extremely long.
	And the clip is called Leaving Iraq with Dog.
	And the reason I say with dog is because in the middle of the clip, for some unknown reason, they have a dog bark.
	And it's almost like it was added in for some, I don't know, to add some ambiance, I suppose.
	Whatever the case is, this is the main message they're trying to tell us.
	When he came into office, there were 144,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.
	Today, there are 81,000.
	And by the end of this month, there will be 50,000.
	Officially, they'll be designated as non-combat forces.
	But that may be misleading.
	Yeah, see, that's the trick.
	Before we even continue with it, he keeps talking about we're withdrawing all the non-combat forces.
	There's nothing said about the contractors.
	No, we're withdrawing the combat forces.
	Yeah, the combat forces.
	Nothing said about the consultants.
	Yeah, no, he mentions, he addresses some of this.
	Okay, let's go.
	...because the troops will still be in harm's way and will continue to support Iraqi combat forces.
	They also can engage in targeted counter...
	That's the ambiance.
	That's what Iraq is all about.
	It's just a bunch of dogs.
	...engage in targeted counter-terrorism operations.
	And while the U.S. troop reduction is on schedule, Iraq's transition to a stable nation is not.
	What?
	The president today said violence is near the lowest level in years, but the Iraq government disagrees.
	They say July was the most violent month in more than two years.
	And the political infighting is so intense that five months after national elections, they still don't have a functioning government.
	It's certainly not the stability that we had envisioned when President Obama rolled out his strategy for Iraq.
	Every time we disconnect, we get a message from Skype.
	We're asking to evaluate the call.
	Really?
	I haven't gotten that.
	I get everything.
	So I put very bad.
	And then they give you a list of laundry that says the call drops.
	So they'll probably be knocking on somebody's door, hopefully.
	All right.
	So we come out of leaving a rock with dog.
	Yeah.
	So, anyway, the point is they're preparing us for the fact that this leaving Iraq is slightly bogus.
	And the media is getting us ready.
	So we're not going to be stunned by the fact that we're not really leaving Iraq.
	Yeah, when we find out that it was a lie.
	And then meanwhile, the media is also promoting the fact that we're going to have to get more involved with Afghanistan.
	And they had a thing on 60 Minutes that was just disgusting.
	For one thing, they had that woman who slammed the writer from Rolling Stone who got McChrystal fired.
	Right.
	Because he didn't play according to the official rules of journalism.
	So she's in here doing a puff piece promoting something or other, and it's a...
	I've got his name somewhere.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	Her name is Flanders?
	No, Flanders is the girl from Grit TV with that crazy accent.
	That's Laura.
	The one I'm going to play is Homeland Nonsense.
	The guy you're going to first hear is Hank Crumpton, and then you're going to hear some psycho that's apparently in charge of some sort of security or something in Afghanistan.
	He's an Afghani who just is this glib psycho Ooh, das Hinterland!
	Homeland, homeland, homeland, he keeps talking about.
	As though we're spread all over the homeland, we have to go back to.
	He talks about the homeland being under threat from Afghanistan somehow.
	And so this whole thing is rigged.
	This is that woman, I have to look her up, the reporter who's obviously corrupted.
	She's cute though.
	As long as she's hot, then it's okay.
	Well, I can put up with it anyway.
	Anyway, it goes in, and this is the crap that we're going to be subjected to over the next six months or more.
	This is an enduring security concern for the United States, for our homeland.
	And for me, it's much like deja vu.
	Because prior to 9-11, I made the same argument.
	I said, if we do not address the issue in Afghanistan, we will suffer in the homeland.
	Wait a minute, he said that prior to 9-11?
	Is that what he said?
	Well, here's what his story is.
	He says he said that.
	This is not public.
	I'm going to tell you his story.
	He says he was in the CIA... Not economic.
	He was a real hit man.
	He was killing people and setting up kills all over the place to calm things down in various parts of the world.
	Yeah, that's always a good policy.
	Calm things down by killing people.
	And so then, I don't know why, but he's not in the CIA anymore.
	And I believe that he's not in the CIA anymore either, because I don't think they would let go on.
	But the...
	And so now he's an independent consultant or guy, I don't know what the hell he is, but you look him up, Hank Crumpton.
	And all he's doing is saying we're going to be attacked at the homeland, we're going to be attacked at the homeland if we don't, you know, kill everybody in Afghanistan using my old tricks.
	And then they bring out this Afghani who's just the worst character and it's just the whole thing, it's just, it's rigged, it's set up, it's scripted, it's pathetic.
	And it did.
	The American public is underestimating What do you think would happen in Afghanistan if the US decided to withdraw?
	I am very clear on what will happen.
	First, the massacre campaign will start.
	Where did they dig this guy up?
	He's like the head of Afghanistan security or some crap.
	He's looking all over the place.
	He's got his head cocked.
	He just looks like a total dick.
	And he is just lording it over her, telling us all what we need to know because he knows and we're all a bunch of dummies.
	And we have to stay there because otherwise there's going to be a...
	Besides the fact...
	Let's get one thing straight.
	The Afghanis are armed to the teeth.
	And there's going to...
	How's this massacre going to happen?
	It's going to be a massacre of both sides.
	But he makes it sound like this.
	As soon as we leave, the Taliban...
	Actually...
	He says Al-Qaeda, and I think it's been shown that there's only like three or four Al-Qaeda in the entire country.
	He makes it clear that we're going to look like idiots if we leave.
	Someone's now banging.
	Not here.
	I can't win.
	Let's hear some more of this jabroni.
	Yeah, someone's hammering.
	On the nice and peaceful island.
	The human cost in this country will easily be up to 2 million people killed.
	It will not be a big news for Afghanistan.
	We are used to tragedies throughout our history.
	But the cost for you will be bigger.
	What will that be?
	Glory comes from winning wars, not from retreat.
	Glory for Al-Qaeda if the US retreats.
	For al-Qaeda.
	Since Amrullah Saleh was the man responsible for Afghanistan's security, he had a more immediate concern.
	What's happening across the border in Pakistan?
	Al-Qaeda and Taliban are now headquartered in Pakistan.
	The bulk of people we kill, neutralize or capture in Afghanistan are the expendable part of the terror network.
	The leadership is there and they are not feeling the heat apart from these occasional drone attacks.
	In Pakistan and elsewhere where you see enemy safe haven, where they are the power, where they are the status quo, we must be the insurgents.
	We must work and recruit locals and we must Collect intelligence.
	We must engage in subversion and sabotage and be very precise.
	If you were in your old job at the CIA, is that what you'd be doing right now?
	Yes.
	You would be inside Pakistan and have men on the ground in the tribal areas building the exact kind of relationships that you built with the Afghans that helped defeat the Taliban.
	Certainly.
	And I think ultimately that's how you win this type of war.
	You have to empower the locals so they have the victory.
	John, exactly what channel was this on?
	Where was this broadcast?
	This was on 60 Minutes.
	60 Minutes?
	So what is the plan here?
	It's like, yeah, we're moving on over...
	I think that there's...
	Did you notice the way she is, like, leading the question?
	Completely!
	She's completely leading him on.
	Like, oh, yes, well, you know, what is the consequence going to be?
	Oh...
	So, anyway.
	You still there?
	Yeah, I'm still here.
	Well, meanwhile, heroin use is at an all-time high, particularly in places like St.
	Louis.
	Yes, we got the St.
	Louis story.
	And I was reading that St.
	Louis story about this girl...
	Some poor high school chick got strung out on heroin.
	She looks like crap to have her picture before and after.
	It's not just any heroin.
	It's the China White, which is now...
	It's the good stuff.
	Yeah, it's the high grade stuff.
	You know, the stuff that's coming from the poppies we're protecting.
	Yeah.
	But the question of mine, why is this poor girl in jail?
	Well, she's in jail because she stole a car, crashed into a light post, and she had an illegal substance, and her parents won't bail her out because she's safer, which is probably true.
	She's safer in jail than out.
	Okay.
	These people should be in rehab.
	So, I was looking at some...
	Yeah, she was in rehab, but I think she busted out.
	I was looking at some...
	Some historical statistics.
	And it's interesting that we get all this chatter now in August.
	Because August historically has been the month when bad things happen.
	We just had, I think two days ago, the anniversary of Hiroshima.
	World War I started in August.
	World War II started in August.
	And, well, it might not be nice living in Iran right now.
	I wouldn't want to live in Iraq.
	This idea of getting out of Iraq might be a setup to sucker Iran into attacking.
	So then we can say, look, this is why we have to be there, and then we go back.
	But Harry Dent, the stock market analyst, says that this August, the month we're in, will mark the beginning of the Great Depression, the next Great Depression.
	The market's going to crash this month, and all hell's going to break loose.
	It's funny because you can imagine on an island like this, there's a lot of people who have money.
	And we were having a beer.
	There's like two places you can have a beer.
	It's a very small island.
	And this one place is called Havana.
	And all everyone is talking about is, oh, you know, I don't know if they were talking about Harry Dent, but they were talking about all these guys who were saying it's, you know, the big crash is coming.
	I mean, it was buzzing, literally, about all these reports, and they're emailing PDFs back and forth to each other, and, oh, it's all going to happen, and we couldn't, you know, who could have seen this would happen.
	And maybe even just that sentiment alone is enough to let the market crash.
	You never know.
	Sometimes that kind of sentiment, if it's really widespread, is a good indicator.
	The market tends to go up.
	That's the joke of it, but it's a fact.
	The euro certainly hasn't made its crash.
	It's like $1.30 now.
	Yeah, it jumped back up, which is good for our exports, but it's not good for my traveling.
	So I stay home.
	Alright, so let's change the topic.
	Oh, actually, let's stick with the Afghanistan thing for one more clip.
	There's another, this is an interesting one.
	This is a long clip I have of Brian Williams, and the whole thing is obviously scripted and staged.
	Brian Williams does a little special on this girl named, let's see, I think it's in Clips 2.
	And Visa?
	Yeah, Indiza or something similar.
	And he met her at the orphanage some years ago and was playing with her.
	And now she's in the United States coincidentally with a bunch of other girls from Afghanistan visiting some clinics because apparently there's no doctors in Afghanistan.
	And one of them needs prescription glasses.
	Another one needs dental work.
	Another one has something wrong with her leg.
	And this whole thing is just bogus to the max.
	And so I'm watching this thing kind of fascinated.
	I'm saying, what is the point of showing this at all?
	I mean, it's just a long package.
	It's not a short piece on a half-hour nightly news show.
	We're talking about NBC News.
	It's a very long piece.
	And at the very end, I finally get what they're leading up to.
	And this is going to be another meme we're going to catch.
	And I'm going to tell you what it is in advance, and you'll hear it, so you don't have to try to guess it.
	So they're going to get cut off anyway.
	And it is apparently...
	We have a lot of people in this country that either don't want to have kids or can't have kids, and they want to adopt kids, and they've already adopted a bunch of Ethiopian kids, and they don't think much of that, and Chinese kids are sketchy.
	Romanian kids, half of them are from insane asylums, and they've had to ship them back, as we know by some stories.
	So we're looking for a new place, and then the girls in Afghanistan, the Eurasian, many of them are very attractive, and this is about adoption.
	It's illegal.
	Come again on that?
	It's illegal what?
	For a foreigner to adopt an Afghan girl.
	Heroically run by a woman named Andisha Fareed.
	It houses children of the war in a healthy, very happy environment.
	And our visit has stayed with us ever since, along with every child we met there.
	So we were surprised to learn that one of them, a girl named Shagofa, was here in the US this summer.
	She had been a special part of our trip to Afghanistan because of the memorable way we met.
	Oh, you want me to put on your glasses and you're going to put on my glasses?
	It was a truly wonderful, genuine moment from our last trip to Afghanistan.
	You look good in my glasses, actually.
	I'm not sure I look so great in yours.
	Shagofa was that young girl we met in the Kabul orphanage just about a year ago.
	Well, Shagofa is here in the U.S. this summer with a group of Afghan girls spending six weeks in Southern California.
	Sponsored by the group Solus for the Children, each girl is here for medical care.
	Shagofa for her eyes, Lita to get cavities filled, and surgery to save a leg infected from a mortar attack.
	We take them to doctor's appointments.
	Doctors donate their time pro bono to see them.
	And it's all about promoting peace between our country and Afghanistan.
	What?
	It's all about promoting peace between our country and Afghanistan.
	This is outrageous.
	This whole thing is outrageous.
	Even from a distance, via Skype, Shagofa's charm comes right through the screen.
	Hey Shagofa, guess what I brought?
	Look what I brought.
	Remember these?
	Remember how silly I looked in my glasses and then I wore your glasses and I looked even sillier.
	How are your eyes?
	Good?
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Nancy and Matt, Shagofa's host...
	This human interest stuff is killing me.
	It's just a setup for the punchline at the end.
	It's a tearjerker.
	It's ridiculous.
	Parents here in the US take comfort in knowing she will go back to a nurturing place to live, but it's going to be hard to let go.
	When we heard that Shagofa was from an orphanage before she came, we were a little bit nervous.
	Just wondering, how are we going to send her back?
	But once we saw the footage of it, what the nightly news had shown, it seems like a very loving and great environment.
	We're happy for her.
	Until that time, when she has to return, the family's making sure Shagofa enjoys a typical California summer, at the beach and on the water, and that rite of passage for so many American kids, Disneyland.
	For us, she's going back with a better picture of America, a better picture of the world.
	The girls and Shagofa will return soon, healthy and happy and changed by what they've seen in the U.S., changed as well by the generosity of their American hosts, who've been changed themselves.
	She's a special friend of ours.
	And just a note here, while Afghanistan does not allow foreign adoptions, and goodness knows a lot of you have expressed an interest, there are ways you can help nonetheless.
	You can see our original report from the orphanage, and you can get more on the agency by logging on to our website.
	That's nightly.msnbc.com.
	Wow.
	Well, yeah, wow.
	Wow is right.
	But I've seen a lot of these reports, you know, about the, you know, that we're there to help and don't worry, we're from the government and we want to make it good and we're going to help the children.
	It's just, it's, why do people, how can people stand this?
	I don't know.
	Apparently they can't sit very long because every 10 minutes they take it out based on the commercials I see during these shows.
	Anyway, I don't know.
	But the whole thing is it's a public relations stunt.
	I don't know who's behind it, but I suspect it's some adoption agency that sees a goldmine here.
	In these Afghan kids, many of them were very bright and they, you know, would be much better off out of there if one of them cast a mortar because she had a mortar attack.
	I mean, subtle messages went on throughout the piece, including, you know, that thing, well, she came over for this and then she gets a mortar attack.
	I mean, this is not a good environment for somebody to be raised in.
	And they had these, you know, these...
	These non-parents that were hosting the girls, you know, and it's just a whole thing is set up, in my opinion, to get Afghanistan to give up on their...
	Not allowing people to adopt orphans.
	Because this wasn't about, you know, just any old girl off the street who had the same issues that were in a poor family.
	No.
	These were orphans.
	So this was like, already gave you predisposed to, well, if they're orphans then they could, you know, be adopted, couldn't they?
	No, I guess not.
	Speaking of the kids, remember what I said about the Dutch government and why it was taking so long for them to put a coalition together?
	Because they had to get the Christian Democrats in?
	Yeah.
	Because they run the justice system?
	And because all the pedo bears live there?
	Well, guess what?
	They just announced the most crazy government structure ever.
	We're the Christian Democrats, the VVD, which is the right-wingers.
	So as not to piss off the members of the Christian Democrat Party, Geert Wilder's party will not be a part of the coalition, but he will have something that they call an approval process.
	So essentially they're going to make a deal behind closed doors.
	All of Geert Wilder's points will be put in.
	They'll have to make all changes and rulings according to what his party wants, even though he won't have any ministers or any other coalition members.
	So he's basically in the catbird seat.
	So he can say whatever he wants, do whatever he wants, but he doesn't actually have any responsibility.
	And the Christian Democrats are in, so they can continue to run the justice system.
	They got exactly what they wanted.
	It hasn't been approved yet, but this is the latest.
	Okay, well that's interesting.
	It's about the best I can do.
	Other than the U.S. Postal Service.
	Which, of course, we already knew that they have thousands of postal workers sitting in the ready room?
	Yeah, the rubber room or something.
	Yeah, where they just sit in a room and watch television all day because there's no work for them, yet they can't be fired.
	Looks like they found some work for them as the Postal Service is ready to deliver life-saving drugs.
	To, what, six cities?
	They're training the mail carriers now in case of some form of large-scale terrorist attack.
	Your postal worker will come and give you your vaccine.
	Two to the head.
	Who knows what they're carrying?
	This is weird.
	And this was like a USA Today story.
	Yeah.
	And nobody notices this stuff.
	It's really peculiar.
	How come that's not on network news?
	Did you see anything about it?
	No, no.
	It just kind of floated through and nobody bothered.
	And then, of course, the real news, which I have here for us, which, by the way, I have an extra rundown, which is real news.
	And now, back to Real News.
	I feel really bad about this because I've been so out, I've been pushing away Real News to such an extreme, trying to find kind of insights, takes on other stories, that I swear to God, half the people they mentioned in this rundown, I don't know what the hell they're talking about. half the people they mentioned in this rundown, I don't Thank you.
	Okay, what is this?
	Oh, this is extra?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	All right.
	dancing with the stars.
	Are you guys ready?
	We're ready.
	Let's do it.
	Why Allie dumped Chris for Roberto.
	Will you marry me?
	Yes!
	Was it love at first sight?
	All the rumors set straight after the Bachelorette finale shocker.
	How did you guys keep it a secret?
	The $50,000 diamond and is Chris the next bachelor?
	Crystal Palin dumps Levi again.
	Why it's suddenly over right after they announce they're getting married.
	Lindsay, untamed in Maxim, the sexy new cover she shot days before jail.
	President Clinton's moonwalk at Chelsea's wedding.
	New secrets today and a peek inside Chelsea and Mark's $4 million love nest.
	Breaking Tiger divorce news.
	Is Elin smiling today because she just got the mansion?
	Tonight's GPS tracking stars on vacation.
	Madonna and Jesus in Portofino.
	And who we caught cleaning up Miami Beach.
	Plus the question we just dared to ask Bradley Cooper about Renee.
	No!
	What?
	If you know at least five names in that report, you must turn off your radio now.
	You are not allowed to listen to this program.
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea who those people are.
	It's an outrage.
	We kind of got that, but come on.
	That's nuts.
	Well, I know the Bachelor thing, the Bachelorette, whatever.
	Yeah, we talked about that, but all these new names have cropped up, and there's $50,000 rings and all the rest of it.
	What is this?
	Does anybody follow this?
	I mean, the only reason I actually like Extra, I think, besides the fact that it's all teasers, is I just love that Extra, Extra thing that they keep saying.
	Hey, breaking news, John.
	In the International Criminal Court, Naomi Campbell testified she did indeed receive the blood diamonds.
	Dirty stones, just dirty rocks.
	That's right.
	In 1997, when she was staying at Nelson Mandela's house, Campbell Taylor.
	So the way I see the story is the following.
	She's in over there.
	Some creep comes up and says, here's some stones or diamonds for you.
	And she looks at them.
	I think she's sincere.
	They look like dirty old rocks.
	Because diamonds don't look like anything.
	And they make it nice.
	You can hook them to a necklace or something.
	Or you can have them chopped up and made into stones that are pretty.
	I'll bet you $10 she threw them out.
	She says she did not ask any questions when two men came to her room in the evening to give her what she said were very small, dirty rocks.
	They're in the bottom of her fish tank.
	She probably went, eh, eh.
	I mean, please.
	I want Mia Farrow to testify.
	That's what I want.
	I want to hear what she has to say.
	No, just...
	Yeah, well, whatever.
	I don't know what it proved one way or the other to get her to test her.
	I think I just wanted to see her.
	But she seems like a ditz.
	But does this not put any kind of black mark on Nelson Mandela since it happened in his house?
	No, you can't put a black mark on Nelson Mandela.
	It's impossible.
	There's also, I mean, what about his wife, Nellie, who was a corrupt figure in the government?
	Yeah.
	The guy is bulletproof.
	He gets a pass.
	He's got a get-out-of-jail-free card.
	Seeing as he was in there for 30 years, I guess...
	Yeah, you're right.
	But to me, it's like, okay, who were you hanging out with?
	Oh, you can imagine.
	Bunch of guys coming to her room in the middle of the night, giving her small dirty stones.
	Almost spilled my coffee there.
	I got some dirty...
	These just look like dirty rocks.
	I'm telling you, I swear to God, I bet you she chucked them.
	No word on that.
	Did they bother asking her what happened to them?
	No.
	Oh, we don't know.
	The press was not allowed to ask her questions.
	She snuck into the country.
	She won't answer anyway.
	She's a dipshit.
	So you're not telling some people that aren't dipshits or the people who give it to our show.
	Yeah, and I'm not quite sure we're providing the type of value we'd like to provide on today's program because it's been very, very challenging so far.
	But I would like to point out that we have never missed a show yet.
	We're trying.
	We're trying to keep the tin cans and string together as I'm here in the southern Caribbean, just north of Venezuela.
	And we are bringing you a show.
	We're trying to bring you as much value as possible.
	I think we'll have to focus extra attention on the show for Sunday just to make up for it.
	Are you going to take a run to Venezuela while you're there?
	I would love to.
	We are drinking Alopresidente's beer, which is polar beer, or as they pronounce it here, polar.
	And I have to say, it's quite good.
	He makes some good beer.
	Well, you know, he's better.
	And from time to time, you know, he gets pissed off at someone who will just stop producing, and then everyone starts to freak out, of course.
	I mean, forget the fact about, you know, what it's like to live...
	In Venezuela, but when they stop producing the beer, we've got a real panic.
	That would be a problem.
	But it's quite good, actually.
	So yeah, we had a stellar list of executive producers and associate executive producers, which is really, really great to see the support we have for the show.
	So we feel that we are giving back.
	This is a listener-supported show.
	Which means we take no corporate money, no commercials ever, never will.
	We are completely left up to your devices.
	And John, let's thank some of the people who have supported us.
	Thomas Hithaler.
	You might want to try to pronounce his name.
	It's H-I-T-T-H-A-L-E-R from Frankfurt.
	Hithaler.
	Yeah, this is good.
	Hithaler.
	11111.
	Nice.
	Which is pretty funny.
	Moonlight Night, Petaluma, California.
	$101.01.
	Love your show instead.
	I simply lust for it.
	I don't love your show.
	I lust for it.
	It says it gets him aroused.
	Rather than using my name, please refer to me as Moonlight Night.
	I hope you consider my recent email to you on Project Vigilant.
	I'll be happy to provide you more dog food.
	Not sure what that means.
	Deriderian.
	Got it.
	Erideriderian, which is an Armenian name, from Trabuco Canyon, California.
	$100.
	Shlomi George Zeisser.
	From Clovis.
	And this is, by the way, this is one of the pals of one of our double nights down in there.
	We have a night of husband and wife night team in Clovis, New Mexico.
	And this is in honor of Dame Margaret George's birthday on Sunday, August 8th.
	Oh, nice.
	Well, we'll put her...
	Well, do we have to...
	Yeah, we do her in the birthday mentions in a minute.
	We'll do it on Sunday.
	Okay.
	But it's on the real day.
	We can do it.
	Don't forget.
	Well, then why did Eric put it in the notes to do birthdays?
	Those notes come with the PayPal file.
	He didn't put that there.
	Daniel Horberecht in Golden, Colorado, 8110.
	Jay Kramer, I think it would be pronounced Kramer.
	Eagan, Minnesota, 66.66.
	Matthew Leszczynski, or it could be Leszczynski, in Apple Valley, Minnesota, 6320.
	He's assuming this is a note.
	It's a donation of 3x3.33 SDR in, this is the SDRs, in USD based on Wikipedia's latest exchange rate.
	Please feel free to use my name.
	He's anti-SB1070. It's simply an extension of federalism, national liberalism, trying to email something or other.
	We'll have to figure that out later.
	But apparently three times 333 comes to 6320.
	Well, we might as well get used to the SDRs now because they're coming eventually.
	Yeah, you might be right.
	Good initiative.
	Yeah.
	I think the next one on the list asked not to be mentioned, so I'm going to skip it.
	And if he wants to be mentioned, I'll mention him next time.
	Jeffrey Fitch, Windermere, Florida, 5510.
	He likes to credit the donation to his brother in order to wish him a happy birthday.
	We have that on the list.
	He's one that got me listening to the show about a year ago, but to my knowledge, the douchebag has never donated.
	If possible, can you wish him a happy birthday, but he will have to de-douche himself.
	Hold on.
	Douchebag!
	Some things still work here.
	Yay!
	That's Jeffrey Fitch, and he's talking about his brother.
	Simon Reed, New York, New York, 5510.
	Bing closed my cashback account, which is funny, and I thought, what better way to spend it than joining the Minutemen and helping Adam get a new car?
	Thank you.
	Did you see the Daily Show interview with Liv Schreiber?
	He outright says the spies were marketing for salt.
	Huh.
	You know, the movie Salt.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we had...
	That's what we said before he showed up.
	But, you know, it's obvious.
	Scott Respeca...
	I'm guessing.
	I think it's Rezepka.
	Rezepka?
	Yeah, Rezepka.
	Yeah, it could be.
	He's giving us 5510.
	He's making a donation because August 5th is his 25th birthday.
	We can give him a shout-out.
	And so he's no longer a douchebag.
	I think he needs to be de-douched.
	Okay.
	You catch me off guard once again.
	You've been de-douched.
	I'd just like to hear the little thing at the end.
	Okay, you're going to have to pronounce this next one.
	Okay, this would be a Dutch name.
	This is Jan Jørgen Schwart.
	Come on, John, you can do it.
	Jan Jørgen Schwart.
	Very good.
	And he's in Naldwijk.
	Naldwijk.
	And then we have our Nighthood Layaway, Travis Wynn.
	And finally, Mike...
	Nikolachuk.
	I'm guessing Nikolachuk.
	From the Paris of Canada.
	Saskatoon.
	He needs to be de-douched after finding out a close friend of his just got the knighthood, James Adamson.
	It's a small town.
	It's a small town.
	If he can cough up that much, then I can sure as hell help out as well.
	He gave us 50.
	And he helped introduce me to the show, which I love.
	I joined at episode 210.
	And I'm now hooked.
	I'm Canadian.
	I'm married to a wonderful woman who's both American and Dutch.
	So you can imagine how much fun your content is in our context.
	He also subscribed to the 3333 a month, which we'll talk about in a minute, to help your cause.
	They have two shout-outs as well.
	Special thanks to Sigma on No Agenda Chat for informing me on how to do shout-outs.
	and a final shout out to my douchebag friend, Dirk.
	Douchebag.
	Who introduced me to the show with James and hasn't donated.
	He's a douche.
	You just gave him the sound out.
	Step up, Dirk.
	From Gitmo North, thanks to the great program, Mike.
	So we have, so he needs to be de-douched.
	You've been de-douched.
	Okay.
	We got that out of the way.
	Let's do the birthdays real quick.
	Okay, you're going to have to help me, John, because the only one I have is Scott Rezepka, whose birthday is today, and he supported the show, so happy birthday to you.
	So we don't do the shout-out to Dame Margaret George today?
	We have to do it on Sunday.
	That's her birthday.
	Okay.
	Do you have any other birthdays?
	No, that should do it.
	We just have one other thing.
	Oh, that's good.
	Then we must do some knighthoods.
	Well, first I want one more douchebag call out, because I've been promising Brian Russell that we would...
	Call out his pal Damon Daling as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	We're going to get in trouble for that.
	We're going to go to hell.
	I don't think so.
	Something bad is going to happen.
	Nobody's complained about it.
	I have yet to get a letter saying, I am complaining about it.
	Or actually, Brian Brushwood on the Twitch show said that apparently somebody gave us some money to call him a douchebag.
	And he was moaning about it.
	He was like moaning about it.
	He says, I have to be de-douched.
	I said, well, you know, you know how to do it.
	You know how to go.
	That's the guy who does, what is that, NSFW? Yeah, NSFW. He's the spiky hair guy.
	That's funny.
	But he was moaning and groaning about it.
	That's good.
	All right.
	Astrid Klein, please step forward.
	This is not for her.
	That's right.
	It's for...
	Who is it for?
	Well, I'm going to have to go back to my email.
	I got it here.
	It's for her husband.
	I don't have it in my...
	No, it's her partner.
	Yeah, partner.
	That is Mark Dytham.
	Mark!
	D-I-T-H-A-M. Step forward as we now proudly pronounce the Sir Mark, Knights of the Noah General Roundtable.
	Please, I don't know if your partner minds if you can enjoy some hookers and blow, but you're welcome here at the table for sure.
	Then we have Chris Jacob.
	A brand new, straight-to-the-night table, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	BullseyeUSA.com for your $1,000 donation.
	We hereby...
	Hold on, Johnny, I need a big sword for Chris because he's kind of a stocky guy, you know what I mean?
	We hereby pronounce the Sir Chris, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Ouch.
	Do you like my new theme?
	Yeah, it's different.
	It's a little more British.
	It's a little bit.
	And then why don't we explain the NoAgendaFans.com concept briefly.
	Yeah, NoAgendaFans is doing a challenge coin that you can get through them.
	They give us 75% of the proceeds, which accounts for all these knights that are cropping up, because Paul Couture wants to get us 12 new knights, and he's the one who's designating people, and they're becoming knights on his command.
	So, uh, Matthew Petty, step forward onto the stump.
	It is kind of a stumpy looking thing, actually.
	That's my sword.
	John, your sword.
	Yeah.
	It's a special knighthood for Matthew Petty as he becomes a knight in the order of the mint of the No Agenda Roundtable for ordering one of the $33.33 No Agenda Challenge coins.
	Matthew Petty, we hereby pronounce the Sir Matthew Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I'm kind of liking that new theme.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it has a grander quality to it.
	I'm looking to see if there's any more birthdays here that we might have missed, but I don't see any.
	So I think we're in good shape.
	I think we got through it.
	Yes.
	Dvorak.org slash NA is where you can go to support this show.
	Or you could just go to the Ministry of Communications in Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles, and get them some real connectivity.
	That would help.
	God, you know, I'm always looking for an island where I can live, and this is not going to be it now, that's for sure.
	And you can also go to NoAgendaShow.com, and if you can't get to the Dvorak.org slash NA site, you can go to our backup, which is ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. So it's Dvorak.org slash NA, ChannelDvorak.com slash NA, and that's the donation page.
	And it has the $33 thing on there, and it has all the updated...
	And also, consider which is a new program we have, which is the $33.33 a month.
	Now, this is a serious commitment to the show.
	Mainly because it comes back every single month, but this is really how we will eventually be self-sustaining, is through these monthly donations.
	Of course, everybody who's donating $5 a month, thank you very much for your support as well.
	It's about 900 or 1,000 people now, which is really good.
	It's really getting somewhere.
	But if you join the $33.33 a month program, then you automatically get a numbered boarding pass for the mothership.
	Which, of course, will eventually come to sweep us all away and to save us from the stupidity here on Earth, which John apparently is going to remain behind and fight by himself.
	Somebody's got to stay behind us, blow up the zombies, so you can get away safely.
	There is this guy in Australia, Rogbir Bathal, and he is known as the Alien Hunter.
	And he says that he...
	Yeah, you're laughing, but this guy's for real.
	No, hold on a second.
	This guy's for real.
	Well, I'm sure he lives.
	I'll put...
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	I'm going to put a link in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	And he claims to have definitely found a signal.
	He's not looking...
	He says, all those SETI guys and people looking for radio signals, they're crazy.
	That's not the way to do it.
	Oh, no.
	It's light signals.
	And he finds these things amongst the noise of other light that is coming from, of course, light years away.
	And in December of last year, he said that he definitely found a signal.
	He has verified it with fellow scientists.
	And, of course, he's now waiting for the next signal and nothing else has come.
	But there's hope.
	You laugh about this.
	He's verified it with other scientists.
	Yes!
	The science is in!
	Science!
	Yes, he has.
	Oh, there's all kinds of great stuff.
	These solar storms is another huge story.
	That, you know, NASA is like, oh, we've never had anything like this happen before.
	Things are definitely changing.
	You've heard about the...
	About the solar storms, John.
	Yeah, there's supposed to be a solar tsunami coming our way.
	I love the word.
	Wow, they slipped that in, tsunami.
	Yeah, and it's going to knock out GPS communications, satellite communications, and apparently it's already started with the internet.
	At least our communications.
	At least the island.
	Yeah, that's what it's supposed to do.
	It could.
	I mean, you know, they know for a fact that if you get enough of a blast from the sun, it could take, because these, you know, they use hardened, in most satellite, especially military satellite communications, the chips that they use in these things are not the chips that you and I buy at Fry's.
	No.
	They're designed to withstand electromagnetic pulses.
	But they can't withstand necessarily the circuit board itself.
	You should be able to blow these things up.
	News coming from both Gitmo Nation, Great White North, and the Lowlands at the same time, and there is no coincidence.
	Of course, we've been following the anti-alcohol, or as John calls it, the neo-prohibitionist movement.
	And now the interlock is now being used in Canada.
	And so if you get a DUI, if you're caught driving while intoxicated, you are basically forbidden to drink at all.
	So that's the scram bracelet part.
	But you get a suspension, and after the suspension, then you can cough up $150 to install the interlock on your car, $115 monthly fee, a $50 removal fee.
	Same goes for Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	This is a global program, apparently, to get us off the evil alcohol.
	I wonder how that thing works.
	Well, we know how it works.
	You've got to blow in it, and you have to hum while you blow.
	No, not the bracelet on your leg.
	Oh, it's just sniffing you.
	And once it sniffs some alcohol, it communicates with some access point, and then it gets you in trouble.
	For all we know, it doesn't work at all.
	The craziest thing, though, that is coming out of Gitmo Nation East is they are now selling milk in a bag.
	Yeah, I got that note.
	What is up with that?
	I don't know.
	What's the point of it?
	Well, apparently it doesn't use horrible packaging.
	What's the bag?
	It's not a paper bag.
	No, but it doesn't use any carton or paper or anything at all.
	It's less, I guess.
	But it's the stupidest thing ever.
	You see people going home with a bag full of milk?
	I mean, please.
	In the United States, it won't work because kids would be poking the bags and they'd be leaking all over the place.
	Yeah.
	You just go to the store with like a pen with a sharp point on the end and you just poke, poke, poke, poke, poke really casually and then leave.
	I just thought it was...
	That's what we do in this country.
	Yeah.
	We do that to our condoms as well.
	It's really fun.
	It's a great sport.
	It's hilarious.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Dairy Crest milk in bags.
	They use 75% less packaging and give you 175% more hassle.
	Dairy Crest bagged milk.
	An 18-month trial.
	Yeah, ain't gonna fly.
	So I have a couple clips.
	There's a clip that I got that just was a head shaker.
	Because when I first heard it, I'm thinking, well, there's some more Republicans moaning and groaning about things and how they need to, you know, take back the country.
	And just play the first beginnings of this.
	You know, this is the long clip.
	I just sent it long.
	You only have to play a little bit.
	But just play the very beginning and then stop it.
	Like, just play the first couple of things.
	We can take on the special interests and take back our country.
	Alright, let me stop there.
	Yeah, this is a meme that has been going on for a while, by the way.
	The take back our country meme.
	Yeah, so where do you think this was?
	Is this maybe at a tea party, maybe?
	Or a Kiwanis club?
	What do you think?
	Let me think.
	I give up.
	This was at the Netroots...
	Oh, I saw some of this.
	This is just before I left.
	I saw this.
	There was some chick on stage with an iPad reading her notes.
	And this woman is Terrell Clark.
	She's running against Michelle Bachman.
	Against Obama, too, probably.
	Well, Obama.
	She's running against Cheryl Bachman, and she's going on and on about taking back the...
	Hold on a second.
	It was a bloggers conference.
	Stop me if I'm wrong.
	The Democrats have the House, they have the Senate, and they have the presidency, and they're going to put all the new justices in.
	Who are they going to take back the country from?
	She's telling me that she's a Democrat.
	She's going to run to what?
	Take it back from who?
	Obama?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Above all, yes.
	But I think this is about the incessant bitching about the Republicans using parliamentary tricks to block all legislation.
	That's what they're trying to propagate, I think.
	Play it from the beginning again until you get sick of it.
	Okay.
	Florida and Washington, we can take on this special interest and take back our country.
	Yes!
	Take back the country!
	Michelle has the full backing of Wall Street, of Carpet America, and Sarah Palin.
	We're in for quite a fight.
	But I know a thing or two about fighting.
	Being part of a Navy family, watching my parents try to deal with their business and feast and famine.
	Working my way through college, it taught me to be tough.
	I built my career standing up for families, working for veterans and seniors, and advocating for our youngest Americans.
	When the insurance industry spent a million dollars trying to stop...
	Okay, I'm done.
	I was wondering how far you could get.
	But that's about right.
	She goes on and on.
	She's terrible.
	And she looks weird.
	I can't even...
	She's like one of these women who feels obliged to get too tan.
	So she's got that over-tan look.
	Like she not only spends all her time under the sun lamp, but she's also slapping on some stuff to make it even darker.
	And she's got...
	I don't know.
	If you don't like Michelle Bachman, I can't say you would like her.
	Now, this speech goes on and on, and then it's a bloggers conference, which I never heard of until Netroots, and there's apparently a right-wing bloggers conference that took place at the same time, so I'm surprised they just don't open the doors and let the guys slug it out.
	So at the end, Laura Flanders, who comes out with that Lyndon LaRouche voice that she has, comes out and introduces some woman who's running for Attorney General or Lieutenant Governor in Texas.
	And I just found this woman that she introduces to be the most annoying woman.
	I can't imagine her possibly winning anything.
	She's an old AFL-CIO hack.
	And she immediately starts speaking Mexican to endear the bloggers to her, I suppose.
	Now, was this the chick with the iPad?
	I don't know.
	No, I think the first chick had the iPad.
	Yeah.
	That was just irritating.
	She's like holding the iPad.
	It was like her teleprompter.
	Well, this woman, though, she comes out, but just play Flanders introducing her, and then play it.
	It goes right to the end as a short clip.
	But to listen to the, I mean, she says buenos noches, and then insists that the audience repeat after her buenos noches.
	Buenos noches.
	Yes, we can.
	Was paid for them in part, I know she would want me to say, by the woman I'm about to introduce.
	She's a woman who has worked for 40 years in the labor movement, and backstage I just asked her, well, why take this on now?
	And she said, well, we really want to have a strong running mate for the governor of Texas, and we looked around for a lieutenant governor candidate, and If not me, then who?
	I kind of waited for somebody to do it, and I did it.
	I'm going to step up and do it.
	And that's what she's done her whole life.
	That's the inspiration that she brings to us.
	Don't wait for somebody to do the job.
	Do the job.
	I want to introduce to you Linda Chavez Thompson, formerly vice president of AFL-CIO, candidate for lieutenant governor of Texas.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hello, Netroots!
	Thank you.
	Buenas noches!
	Hey!
	There we go.
	No se oye.
	Can't hear you.
	Buenas noches!
	Buenas noches!
	All right.
	Es un placer estar aquí con ustedes.
	Yeah, I'm voting for her.
	You're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	It's great to be here with my kind of people.
	Here.
	Here.
	My kind of people.
	And yes, you are my kind of people.
	Because you never back down and you never stop fighting.
	And I admire that about you.
	I've got to tell you though that I may be a little too ready to fight.
	I paid extra to fly direct from San Antonio on Southwest Airlines because I no longer want to change planes in Phoenix, Arizona.
	Right, okay.
	Yeah, great.
	What is coming of us?
	What is happening?
	This is not good.
	A-holes everywhere.
	It's really, really bad.
	Oh my goodness.
	I wouldn't mind trying to play one clip from here, which unfortunately will come from YouTube.
	But I don't know if you saw David Letterman with my friend, my dear, dear friend, Rachel Maddow.
	Yeah.
	You know, I was watching, I was looking at the rundown, I was thinking of looking at that or even recording it because I know there'd be some gems in there and I said, you know, I just find, I can't, I just would be so, I'd be starting to itch watching the Maddow and Letterman exchange information.
	I couldn't watch it.
	Well, I just want to play the setup because, I mean, even though we keep forgetting Cheryl's name, whatever her name is, What is her name?
	Rachel Maddow?
	No, no, no, no.
	Michelle Bachman?
	No, the woman who...
	Cheryl Sherrod.
	Yeah, Cheryl Sherrod.
	Sharon Sherrod.
	Sharon.
	I don't know her name.
	Even though we forget her name.
	When you listen to Letterman and Maddow...
	And they're talking about, what's his name, Breitbart and how this whole thing came down.
	It sounds like they rehearsed this, like they scripted it and said, okay, let's make this really simple for stupid people to understand.
	We're going to really talk very slowly and explain exactly how bad this guy is.
	And by the way, no fan of Breitbart here, but just listen to this.
	I was blown away by...
	How this slave talk, literally, just like, okay, the slaves have to understand this.
	Let's say it like this.
	And there's a guy who apparently takes interviews and press conferences and edits them and cobbles them together so they give the exact opposite impression of what was really being expressed.
	What's the guy's name?
	Like she doesn't know.
	Bart.
	Who does this guy work for?
	I think he works for himself.
	He was sort of a spin-off from that judge.
	I mean, isn't that just set up?
	I mean, she knows exactly who the guy is.
	And the other thing is that the Letterman show, and to the same extent the Leno show, are extremely prepped.
	Oh yeah.
	It's not like, you know, the way Larry King operated, which was, you know, you don't want to talk to him, he's not going to pre-interview you, you come on the show, you sink or swim.
	No.
	These shows are pre-interviews, they're as close to being scripted as possible.
	Right.
	So he's got things.
	He can just make up any old thing he wants.
	And then somebody, I think in this case it was Fox, gets a hold of it and reports it as factual, as factual, as factual.
	And in this case, it was racism in the United States Department of Agriculture.
	Do I have that correct?
	Yes.
	So the woman who works for the USDA is telling a story to a black NAACP audience about the importance of doing your job in a colorblind way and about not being racist and all these things.
	And he runs it as a racist from the USDA. Wait a minute.
	Didn't every single news channel run with that story exactly the way it was?
	That's why she got fired?
	And do they mention that Obama's administration ran with the story?
	Yeah.
	No.
	No, they don't mention it.
	It's just like, and why is Rachel Mano even, does she have a movie coming out?
	Is she sexy?
	Well, she could be deemed kind of hot, I guess, but, you know, why is she even on Letterman?
	Why does she get to come on and talk about this?
	Is Letterman now just another shill, just another arm of the Ministry of Truth?
	I don't know, it would make you think so.
	It was kind of amazing.
	Kind of amazing, and it took several days to unravel, and many mistakes were made, including the White House knee-jerk reaction.
	He does say it, that's good.
	Immediately, pulling this woman over on the side of the road and saying, you've got to turn in your resignation.
	Now, how much, good Lord, here's a woman, as it turns out, doing the right thing.
	How much time, energy was wasted, because this guy was f***ing around.
	I mean...
	What?
	I don't know, man.
	I can't watch Letterman anymore after this.
	Why is this on his show?
	Yeah, good question.
	Why is she on the show?
	You're right.
	There's no book.
	There's nothing to plug.
	He very rarely brings people in.
	I mean, he does have a couple of regulars that will bring on in a pinch if somebody can't do the show, but they're usually not even prepped.
	They're just, you know, you used to have like Tony Randall when he was alive.
	You just, you know, some guests would drop out.
	Boom.
	Randall would come on.
	They'd change a few stories and yuck it up because they worked together forever.
	And that was the end of it.
	But why would they bring her on unless she wasn't, she's not one on his list of people that substitute for guests that bail out?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's a mystery.
	It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
	Well, all I know is I can't watch Letterman anymore.
	You can't trust him now.
	No, you can't trust him now.
	Well, you can't trust him.
	If you got me to the conclusion you can't trust him, you can still watch him.
	He's sort of a singer now and again.
	Another story that of course we're all just letting slip right over us and not a problem whatsoever, but it is being reported on MSNBC. The naked body scanners, which I again refuse to go through at Los Angeles International Airport.
	Which actually gave me a minor hassle, because they closed off the TSA line at the checkpoint, as it's now even announced, checkpoint.
	You must go through the checkpoint.
	They closed it off, and I said, I'm not going through your scanner.
	Why not?
	Oh, because it's not safe.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, hold on, then we'll open up another thing there.
	But you could just go through it.
	No, no thank you.
	A story now, which actually was reported by CNET, who I guess listened to this show.
	U.S. Marshal Service admitted this week it had saved thousands of images that had been recorded from a security checkpoint in Florida Courthouse.
	That's where they stored all those images.
	So, remember, they promised us that they won't be stored.
	It was just analyzed and you can't actually see any of your bits.
	Just storing everything.
	Yeah, you never know.
	It might come in handy.
	But there's no one's up in arms about this.
	No one cares.
	Whatever.
	I know that's what the pathetic part is.
	Everyone should refuse to go through the device.
	Let's see what else we got here, John.
	As I said, I really didn't have...
	I got all my stories.
	Well, let's see.
	I got another clip or two we can go on.
	Play the Tom Sullivan Show with a blowhard.
	The intelligence community has grown exponentially since 9-11 to where they're focusing on quantity rather than on quality.
	Do you agree or disagree with that assumption?
	Well, look, we need an awful lot of quantity because we got caught flat-footed on 9-11, and even if you have some duplication of effort, that's okay because people don't always know what program it is they're supporting.
	That is, we might be duplicating some efforts for one program that's supporting something that's very classified on this side of the wall, and the same kind of effort Supporting a different program, totally different, highly classified on the other side of the wall.
	You don't always want these things to come down to the same funnel, because when they do, you have exactly what happened with that WikiLeak.
	You've got some young guy who had overview of an awful lot of programs he shouldn't have had any overview of, and he violated the trust and confidence of the military and of his own nation by leaking that information to an outfit out there.
	Now, with respect to the Washington Post, Tom, no matter how hard I think about it, I can come up with no upside to Dana Priest and William Akin writing some kind of article which tries to expose all the elements, the little companies, the people involved in our intelligence community.
	It is complex.
	There is a lot of money out there.
	But at the end of the day, if those two Washington Post journalists, everybody in this town and everybody in San Diego where you are, are safe, that's what America should want.
	And I think that's what we get with this system we right now have.
	Amen.
	Thank you so much.
	Amen.
	This is a show on Fox Business, I think.
	He's defending it?
	He's defending that one in every three Americans works for the CIA with top secret clearance?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's defending it and he's defending everything.
	He's just a defender.
	That's great.
	And the guy's like an ex-major in the military, which it seems to me that if you're going to be one of these talking heads brought in from the military or the CIA, you better have a higher status than major.
	He's just some blowhard.
	And it was like, I'm watching Fox going, this is just ridiculous.
	So this is watching Fox on the weekend, you get these kinds of things.
	But the one I think that is the most interesting, and I like the...
	This will be my last clip for the show and we can probably start to wrap.
	See if you can catch the interesting Geraldo flub.
	He's talking to some black guy about how people can become Democrats or Republicans.
	He's talking a little bit about race.
	But he makes this interesting flub and he kind of saves it and he just keeps talking as though it never even happened.
	I'm not going to challenge you on it, but I'm going to see if you can catch it.
	The fact is, this is an American issue.
	This is an issue about green, not about black, white, brown.
	And as, you probably track this, as Latinos, as African Americans kind of go up the social and economic ladder and make it, do they become as white?
	Do they track the majority?
	Do they become as white?
	I mean...
	When they get more money, do they become more white?
	Oh, that's great.
	Let me hear that again.
	Do they become as...
	That was pretty good, because he didn't want to draw attention to it.
	No, he covers it, but I got it.
	Let me hear it again.
	Do they become as white?
	Do they track the majority population?
	Yeah, you too can become white, Geraldo.
	Just stay at it, my friend.
	You can be just like us.
	You can be just as good.
	Crazy.
	That's funny.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I got a kick out of that catch.
	We're actually getting very close, John, to saving Mel Gibson.
	Of course, we know that we're quite confident Mel Gibson is a huge nicotine addict, is on Shantix, and that's why he's been going crazy.
	Just a slew of reports out of Australia now reporting about another 15 who have committed suicide while on Shampix, as it's called, down under, since 2008.
	So it's good.
	Now at least we have his home country, his homeland, is talking about it.
	Maybe it'll seep through.
	You can almost wait for it for Mel to go...
	Oh, crap.
	That's why I'm freaking out.
	You can just wait for it.
	So I'm glad that somehow this has crept into the news in Gitmo Nation Down Under, and hopefully Mel will catch wind of it, and he'll come out, and you can just wait for it.
	Wouldn't it be crazy if that was the next real news report, where he said, I was on Chantix?
	Well, the Chantix people, the drug companies, they're going to have to put the lid on it so that it's going to be difficult for that to actually appear anywhere.
	Well...
	Mel doesn't seem to have problems saying other things that are not socially acceptable.
	He may not care.
	And a lot of people, probably the most emailed story is about Wyclef Jean now having announced that he is running for president of Haiti.
	I mean, I don't understand.
	Didn't we say this like a couple weeks ago already?
	I think we called this during the Haiti thing and the guy kept showing up.
	I think there was a 60-minute special where they hinted at this.
	This was all set up.
	But how come people are emailing it like we're right about something?
	I mean, we were just reporting this for weeks and weeks on end.
	This is no big surprise.
	I think it's because we maybe picked it early, like a lot earlier.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	I was actually surprised by that myself.
	Yeah, but he did announce, I think he announced it on Larry King, and he's filed all the documents, and he wants to become president, and I think that we're pretty convinced that he's buddy-buddy with Bill Clinton, and he was in there for day one.
	Yeah, and they got a hotel chain.
	Yeah.
	Wyclef Jean Pension.
	It has a nice ring to it.
	Well, we'll see.
	Now, if he actually...
	Of course, if he runs, he's going to win.
	Oh, yeah.
	Right?
	Yeah, oh, yeah.
	He's a shoe-in.
	And then what?
	I mean, I think that, you know, if Britney Spears ran for Congresswoman in the L.A. area, she'd probably win.
	I'd vote for her.
	Just having said I did it.
	I was a part of that movement.
	Definitely a winner in the Beverly Hills area.
	The Daily Mail reports that, and this is kind of interesting, I probably should have done this right after the donations, but Churchill and Eisenhower agreed to cover up an RAF planes UFO encounter during World War II. Secret files now revealed.
	It could have been that flying bell that the Nazis invented.
	Well, the Nazis had all kinds of flying saucer technology.
	Yeah, in fact, they have a whole flying saucer special that was done on the History Channel that I backed up on a DVD for you.
	Ooh, nice.
	Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing that.
	Yeah, it's actually quite entertaining.
	If anybody gets a shot at this, it's on the Nazi...
	You know, they have a lot of Nazi stuff.
	It's on Nazi Week.
	Nazi Week.
	Nazi Channel.
	It may be History or History International.
	It's on the Nazi flying saucers or something like that.
	And they developed some crazy technologies.
	Speaking of that, there was a report, I'm looking for it right now, that the Anti-Defamation League has now downgraded the swastika as an anti-Semitic symbol.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, let me see if I can find that.
	I wonder why.
	I'll have to pull up the report here, of course, everything.
	Here it is.
	ADL downgrades swastika as Jewish hate symbol.
	And let's pull this up for a second.
	It's in the Jewish Week.
	The painting of a swastika, that dark ubiquitous signature of hateful vandals everywhere, is no longer automatically considered an act of anti-Semitism under new guidelines for recording attacks against Jews, announced this week by the Anti-Defamation League.
	The most prominent Jewish defense agency in the country, perhaps in the world, announced on Tuesday it has revamped its guidelines for recording anti-Semitic incidents in its annual survey for the first time in 30 years, taking a more conservative approach.
	We know that the swastika, for some, has lost its meaning as the primary symbol of Nazism and instead become more generalized...
	Oh, I see what they're doing.
	So it's not just against Jews, it's a more generalized symbol of hate.
	But wasn't the swastika originally just a purely religious symbol?
	Yeah, but I think the direction of the lines went in the opposite way, the religious version.
	I just thought that was very interesting they would come out and say that.
	I guess it's not really a downgrade, it's more like an upgrade.
	Yeah, kind of a side grade.
	Side grade, yeah.
	And the EPA is now considering a crackdown on farm dust.
	If approved, this would establish the most stringent and unparalleled regulation of dust in our nation's history.
	Yes, just when you thought rainwater was it, now you can't make dust anymore.
	Yeah, they wanted to put the farmers out of business.
	It really appears that way.
	I have yet to see anybody plow a field where some dust isn't kicked up.
	Yeah, without making dust.
	It just lands back on the ground somewhere.
	I mean, what's the point?
	Is it going into the upper atmosphere?
	I don't think so.
	I see you have a couple clips which are kind of jumping out at me.
	I wouldn't mind playing those before we close down the show.
	Which ones?
	Chelsea Clinton?
	Oh yeah, this is the best report you could find on Chelsea Clinton.
	By the way, it brings the point up, which I'll bring up after you run the clip.
	Word is, he's so relaxed, he was moonwalking at the reception.
	I'm sure that Hillary is dying to have grandchildren.
	What will be interesting is how many children they do have when they have children.
	He's from the family of 11.
	She's an only child.
	Where will Chelsea live?
	This is the Lower Fifth Avenue building she calls home with Mark and their Yorkshire Terrier, Soren.
	Of course, the $4 million three-bedroom love nest purchased by Mark is similar to this one in the very same building featured for sale on YouTube.
	Chelsea's apartment is 1,900 square feet, so there's plenty of room for a nursery.
	The big question now, with Mark being Jewish and Chelsea being Methodist, how would they raise their child?
	When the children are born, that's when we'll know, but probably a marriage of faith.
	They seem very supportive of each other, so I would think they would have discussed it before getting married.
	For now, the 30-year-old bride and 32-year-old groom are focusing on their careers.
	Mark's an analyst at a hedge fund called G3 Capital.
	Chelsea just got a master's degree in public health at Columbia University, has a background in finance, and is about to begin work on her Ph.D. at NYU's Wagner Graduate School of Public Service.
	Clearly, what's next for this low-key but politically connected couple?
	A very bright future.
	So she's going to run for president.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's like so clear.
	Yeah, so obvious to me.
	But the thing that's weird to me was all the commentary about Clinton having lost like 20 or 30 pounds.
	He looked like crap, which indicates, you know, maybe he's not healthy.
	But they said, no, he's lost.
	The litany was he lost the weight for the wedding.
	What was the dad walking the daughter down the aisle?
	Who loses weight for that?
	See, I haven't seen any reports, so I really don't know.
	Yeah, well that's basically what's going on, and it was mentioned by some others that I talked to about this as well.
	Maybe, you know, what other reason do you lose weight unless you're sick, or you need to lose weight?
	But it's like if you're, you know, maybe having a new girlfriend, a lot of people lose weight.
	Ooh, ooh, interesting.
	So that's something to keep an eye on.
	Yeah, you never really hear about those two.
	No.
	And yeah, in the beginning of the report it says, Hillary's anxious to have grandchildren.
	I don't think so.
	Right.
	Alright, I might as well just do this one as I look for the...
	Here we go.
	All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
	The best, the absolute best story in the ongoing war between trains and planes, and of course there's tons of stories always coming out that predominantly are anti-plane and pro-train.
	But this one, I mean, Hill and Knowlton, whoever was on this, they deserve a raise.
	Ready?
	Go.
	Seven puppies died after being shipped from Tulsa to O'Hare Airport on an American Airlines flight.
	Yeah, seven puppies.
	It's always puppies.
	When you're killing the puppies, then you are just evil.
	Then you're just going to hell.
	Killing puppies.
	Yeah, I saw that.
	Just kill the puppies.
	122 dogs have died while being shipped on airplanes since May 2005.
	Unbelievable.
	So, and I have two more things.
	I got something bad and something good.
	We actually have producer Adam B. who works in a hospital.
	I'm not going to mention where he works.
	But he says, you guys got it right.
	Vivitrol is a pile of crap.
	This is not a wonder drug.
	Now, this is the drug that is now being propagated as helping you stop smoke marijuana, if you want to take it to alcohol or anything else.
	He says it blocks your opioid receptor in your brain.
	These are needed to make you happy or feel rewarded.
	It was first used for heroin addicts because it directly stops the effect of heroin.
	Now they're using higher doses over a longer period of time, as it's a long-acting injection to essentially block the high from alcohol, but it doesn't do anything to the receptors that alcohol actually works on.
	It's just a way to make alcoholics or drug addicts miserable.
	I would not be surprised.
	So this is a doctor speaking.
	I would not be surprised to see people who take this drug for too long would have an extremely high rate of suicide.
	Increased risk of depression is about five times compared to a placebo.
	It's a great way to kill off those who don't fall into line.
	It's a needle full of shut up, slave.
	Love it.
	And, boy, I'm out of breath here.
	This climate is not good for doing a show.
	There's a website I'd like you to see.
	CatsThatLookLikeHitler.com Oh yeah.
	No, I actually blogged this.
	I had not heard of this.
	That's been around for a long time.
	Oh my god, it is amazing.
	It absolutely makes you just smile.
	And we'll leave you with that smile on your face as you go to that website right now and we'll close down this show.
	Which has been one of the most challenging in a long time, John.
	It went the last hour.
	It went fine.
	Well, yeah, but I felt kind of helpless, you know, not having been able to get all my stuff together.
	No, don't worry about it.
	It's just you can fix it and edit.
	Yeah.
	I'll spend the rest of my day doing that, editing all the dropouts and putting everything back together.
	Nice.
	So I shall be back at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center on Sunday for another episode of No Agenda.
	Thank you for bearing with us those of you on the stream, the human resources who have been powering everything for this program.
	And coming to you from the Beach Hut Crackpot Command Center, 35 clicks north of Allo Presidente in Venezuela, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will talk again on Sunday for early morning service right here on No Agenda.
	Yeah.

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