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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Saturday, July 31st, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 222.
This is No Agenda.
No.
I am your humble agent known as the former Soviet spy.
I come to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, and Gimmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's Saturday and nothing happens until I say hit it, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
And it's so true.
We wait for you to tell me to hit it, and then boy do I. I should change these to slam it.
No, no.
In the morning, John.
In the morning to you and to all the listeners and all the ships at sea and the HR people.
Do I get to say anything now?
You're just stealing all my...
You already took my ships at sea and now you're taking my human resources.
I won't stand for it, Dvorak.
I get the human resources thing.
I have to be honest about it.
Where does that come from?
It's human resources.
All we are is just sources of energy.
I see what you're doing.
You're referring to the listeners.
I thought you were talking to some specific human resource person.
No, I always say, if you ever listen to me, which we know you don't, I always say, and our human resources at noagendachat.com who are standing by, And are all charged up and ready for our government because they like us that way.
Get it?
Oh, now I get it.
I'd like to start off today, John, with something funny happened.
Something funny happened yesterday.
I did the Computer America show.
Oh, yes, right.
You were on, apparently, the whole show.
For two hours.
Did you listen to any of it by any chance?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely.
Well, you missed...
Of course you didn't.
Well, you missed some real fun stuff.
I decided to stream it live, my end, on No Agenda Stream, which is great because, of course, I sent out the bat signal on the...
You streamed it live out of your end, okay.
Right.
And so everyone was in the chat room.
And so, you know, this was probably the best...
It's the only promotion I ever could have done to show people why we are listener-supported.
I mean, it was...
And the guy was a really nice guy, sweet guy, I'm sure.
He is a nice guy.
Well, this is not...
This is the co-host, because I guess the regular guy was on vacation.
They're both pretty cool.
Right, yeah.
But he was by himself, and...
Oh.
Yeah, so there's only 30 minutes in each hour of talk time anyway, and he'd come back from a break, And he'd start talking and talking and talking, and I'm not kidding, like five minutes he'd be talking, and then finally he'd be like, oh yeah, I've got to ask Adam a question, and then I'd start with my answer, and I'm like, oh, it's time for a break!
It's like every single time, it's like, oh my god, this is unbelievable!
And maybe he just doesn't have a lot of experience with a guest host or whatever when he's by himself.
So it was just a little weird.
And I started at a certain point, I'm like, he was in a four-minute soliloquy, and I just went, you know, I swear to God, I was just like off shooting bullets at him.
You know, I did the...
I did that.
He's like, oh, I just got shot.
I said, yes, you did.
I'm still here.
But anyway, our producers in the chat room, they were having none of this.
They were like, oh my God, these commercial breaks, etc.
And then the phone lines opened up.
And I went...
I'd like to share a short bit of one phone call.
You can only imagine that it was our producers calling in.
On the line, we've got another caller, and hopefully he's still there.
John is listening to us in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
John, do we have you on the line?
Yes, I'm here.
Hi, John.
Thanks for holding.
I wanted to touch on a subject you had mentioned earlier in the show about someone starting a project and not finishing it.
Here's my situation.
I woke up in the morning and I had this idea to make these rings.
And I had a designer make these rings.
They're like medieval rings.
They have an emblem on them.
And I had producers lined up and invested in this.
I had members of a round table.
And it seemed like I was always just working on them.
I was going to invite Adam on what exactly I needed to do to get these rings done.
He's like one of my kids.
That was so funny.
Dad, when are you going to finish cleaning the office?
But what was funny was, Cary didn't get it, and at a certain point he's like, well, you know, maybe you can sell these at a renaissance fair.
And then he started, I swear to God, he started talking about swords and stuff, and I'm like, you know, I'm doing this.
You're never going to get invited back.
No, I don't think so.
But it was, at one point he actually asked an interesting question, and it was about the DMCA... You know, the ruling that you can jailbreak phones and stuff.
And I start answering, and then he starts disagreeing, and so I'm like, oh, this is going to be good.
And then it's a commercial break, and then it's like, he never brought it up again.
And at the end of the show, he's like, oh, I'd love to talk with you one day.
It was like all about, he was trying, he's a No Agenda fan.
He may be listening.
I hope he is, because it would be good for him to learn a few things.
He, you know, I think he really wanted, he was almost like doing a No Agenda type show, but he was doing it by himself.
Yeah, well, you know, you're tied up, you're hamstrung by the format.
That's the real problem.
And in fact, this is the case with public radio.
It's the case where you have a clock.
I mean, even though public radio is supposed to be supposedly non-commercial, it's very commercial.
I did slip all of that in.
I was able to talk about all that stuff.
That was great.
Right, the stuff goes on, you know, the clock is like, it's usually a hard clock because most of these shows are syndicated and so you have a moment at the 20 minute mark where you just have to stop because it goes to the local station for them to do a spot or say something or introduce themselves or whatever, promo their own material.
And you don't have a lot, there's no leeway.
So if you're right in the middle of something where the guy's really going to say something important, I mean, you really have to.
You can't do it.
You just can't continue conversations.
You can't get on a roll.
You know, you got to stop right then and there.
And it was...
And we were actually talking about this very topic, and we were interrupted by an ad.
And, of course, the guy has to defend his model.
Anyway, I'll find a link to it, but someone recorded the entire stream so you actually hear what's happening during the commercial breaks while Carrie and I are talking off-air.
It was hilarious.
And what was going on in the chat room, there was a whole secondary show happening that happened outside of the entire Computer America show.
But I appreciate the airtime, of course, because somewhere someone heard it and is probably tuning in because of it.
Yeah, I wonder what the fuss is about.
What was that curry talking about?
That's where the whole world's headed if we're not careful.
That's the problem.
That's why we're doing the show the way we do it.
I mean, that and ten other reasons.
I mean, it's not the only reason.
We have a slew of reasons, all rationalizations in some way, but...
We've just made the decision.
We do have some producers to announce this.
We go from nobody, one person producing last show, and now we've got one, two, three, four, five, six.
Six executive producers?
No, we've got one, two, three, four...
Actually, we have a...
We've got a bunch of four executive producers and two associates.
And three knighthoods, eh?
Three knighthoods, yeah.
It's funny because the DUI-help fellow...
Joshua Dale.
He, you know, I guess he was on the night program, $50 a month, and I guess at some point...
He got tired of waiting?
Well, he started itching after a while, you know?
People are getting their night hoods, and you're sitting there, and you're, you know...
So he decided just to cough up $350.
Just to get there.
He's tired of waiting for the race to end.
Yeah, I have other analogies, but yeah, okay.
So, first of all, we have our...
Let me find the right email.
This is Paul Couture, right?
Paul Couture, who is doing the coin challenge and donating the majority of the profits to the No Agenda show.
Yeah, this is noagendafans.com is where you can order your coins.
These things are absolutely off the hook, John.
Everyone is loving them.
And the price is right.
It's like $33, 33 cents.
Of course, if you want an attractive display case, there's some added stuff.
But it's such a beautiful project that Paul has put together.
And boy, do we encourage this kind of stuff.
Yeah, no, it's a stroke of genius.
So he, in fact, he thinks he's going to be able to bring in 12 knights.
Which you could probably do.
But this week, the credit for the donation goes to...
Now, I don't know whether Paul wants us to put him as the executive producer.
No, I think he's the executive producer, but the night...
James Adamson will be the night.
Okay, we'll have Paul Couture with $667.44.
DUIhelp.com, which is actually Attorney Joshua M. Dale.
We're putting DUIhelp.com because...
He wants that.
He wants it, yeah.
Yeah, it's a plug.
So they produced the show.
Executive produced 350.
Matthew Payton.
No stranger.
With no...
Well, maybe he'd send an email, but I don't remember it.
Deltona, Florida.
We'll all dig around and look into what we're doing the show.
33366.
Hmm.
So I don't know what that was.
Oh, maybe...
No, that wouldn't make sense.
Well, it would make it actually add two more threes, so it would actually be 33333.3333.
Never mind.
Jeff, I'm not a psychist.
I'm just like a computer manual.
It's like Apple's new operating system,.4,.3,.7.
Jeffrey Yang in...
New York.
New York, New York.
New York, New York.
33333.
John and I love the show.
Proud to be an executive producer of episode 222.
I need karma.
Lots of karma for my job, health, and family.
How much karma do you need?
You don't know his situation.
Well, I know, but he should be focusing his karma.
Greg Lennox, Hornsby Heights, New South Wales.
$200.
We're finally getting some people out of the country again.
Yes.
We have to do more news about us.
I always do when I have four stories today.
I'm always looking up...
I'm hopefully earning some karma from my girlfriend who's had a rough few months.
She doesn't listen to the show.
Well, there you go.
That's why she's had a rough few months.
Listening to it loudly in the next room.
So she needs some karma.
I can't stay at the show.
It's a family show.
Take her out for dinner.
Yeah, give her dinner.
Yeah, give her dinner and some lovin'.
Yeah, but thank you.
Craig Meyer, Wynwood, Pennsylvania.
Is also an executive?
Craig Meyer?
Yeah?
No, no, these are associate executives.
Oh, hold on a second.
And Craig.
It's the random number theory at work.
We have two Craigs in a row, both giving $200.
Two Craigs, $200.
And the second Craig and Craig Meyer is in Wynwood, Pennsylvania.
Keep up the good work, he says.
Thanks for the show.
So that's it.
Wow, this is great.
It's a good group, yeah.
Yeah, this is very promising.
Yeah, it's just what you need just before you go off on your vacation.
Well, I also, on Daily Source Code yesterday, I told everyone about my acrobatic move.
What?
The soft exit from the Mevio company.
Oh.
Good.
Then we want the more people stiff?
No, no.
Well, no.
It means that I'm still involved with the company.
I'm still a shareholder.
Only I don't get paid.
That's essentially what it means.
Yeah, but you get paid in stock.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
No, that's called founder stock.
That was mine to start with.
I gave out the rest to the other dudes.
I ain't paid in anything.
My company.
But I think my salary is better used for people who will actually do some work over there.
So I can do some work here on this show, which I'm happy about.
But of course now I'm going to need some actual support.
And there you go.
You close a door, another one opens.
Look what happens.
That's how karma works, right?
That's what they say on TV shows.
So thank you all for your executive producerships.
Paul Couture, DUIhelp.com, Matthew Payton, Jeffrey Yang, and of course our associate executive producers Craig Lennox and Craig Meyer will be thanking other people during our thank you segment a little bit later on.
Meanwhile, we need everyone to go out there and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
And I do want to mention that those are official credits.
You can use them as an official Hollywood credit.
And I would like to give you some credit, John, for making the new page at Dvorak.org.
It looks really nice.
Yeah, yeah.
I've decided to up the ante.
Welcome to 2010.
I dropped my old HTML editor and moved to Dreamweaver.
Oh, boy.
I've been putting it off for like five years.
You know, it's like, you know, this is fine.
This is fine.
All you need is just a couple of core words up there.
Tables are okay.
Blink tag.
It's good.
It's really good stuff.
I never used a blink tag.
Although it's still a funny idea.
I think it still works, doesn't it?
I don't know.
I think it still works with certain browsers.
I think I may put one on for a short time to see what it does.
But I was really upset when they decided to take it out.
I was like, hey, just because it's irritating and everyone in the world is using it, who died and went to heaven and made you guys boss of removing the blink tag?
That's terrible, the blink tag.
Yeah, blink tag.
It's ruining the internet.
It's ruining it.
I remember that.
That and the little animated GIF icon of the cat running back and forth across the screen.
Do you remember when images used to come in as interlaced and they'd load top to bottom, black and white first, and it would take you like five minutes, like...
Oh, yes, the image is there.
You can still save a lot of files as interlaced, and it'll still...
Of course, it does it so quickly now that you don't see it.
You don't see it.
Yeah, well, that was cool back in the day.
How cool it was.
And the mailbox opening and closing.
Ooh, that was a good one.
I've been wanting to put one of these, what I call an insane site.
You know, people who are nuts on the internet, I mean, people that are criminally insane, or at least insane, not necessarily criminally, they always have the same, when they put web pages up about some flying saucers, aliens, something, or, you know...
Right, we're not insane.
Energy, you know, the kind of website you'd do.
It's usually, all the text is centered.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
And it's in the biggest font that they can find.
In colors, colors, colors.
In colors, it's usually a red on black.
And you're like, is this a link?
No, it's just a color.
And it goes down to China.
It just goes on forever.
And then all along the way, there's all these animated GIFs.
It's like the guy's typing away.
It's always one page.
It's one page.
He goes find an animated GIF. And here's another one for you from the archives.
Redball.gif.
That was a huge one.
I think maybe MTB.com was one of the first websites to use the redball.gif, which was like a little bullet point.
Remember that?
Oh yeah, the bullet point.
If you Google redball.gif, you'll see it right there.
It still exists.
Someone sent me a Google thing yesterday that I thought was just hilarious.
If you spell Illuminati backwards...
And you type that into your browser, so that's itanimuli, I-T-A-N-I-M-U-L-L-I, and of course the.com is added automatically by Firefox.
It goes to the NSA website, which I thought was kind of cool.
It's been Google-washed.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's someone registered that domain name as just forwarding it to the NSA. Some guy in Utah or something.
Well, here it is.
Yeah, Utah.
John Pontiffier.
Good job, John.
That's funny.
And Provo.
Oh, that's where they keep some of the A stuff.
Well, maybe he's with the company.
Who knows?
Yeah, because it's possible.
It could be one of those jokes.
Watch this.
Let me screw them.
I'll bet you Dvorak and Curry will be talking about that eventually.
Yeah, they'll buy it.
Hey, some nefarious law passed, which is really honking me off.
Okay.
March 31st, the Pact to Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking.
Have you heard of this?
No, I didn't.
This is news to me.
Yeah, the PACT law, prevent all cigarette trafficking, was signed into law by Congress.
Effective June 29, 2010, cigarettes, including roll-your-own-tobacco, which I am a user of, smokeless tobacco, and non-malleable matter, they are now non-mailable matter, and cannot be shipped using the U.S. they are now non-mailable matter, and cannot be shipped using the U.S. Postal Service or by common carriers such as UPS Now, this is a big problem because I smoke Old Holborn Blue and people mail it to me.
Not anymore.
Well, they have been mailing it to me.
They'll have the tobacco-sniffing dogs at the airport.
I'm telling you.
But now it's like trafficking.
It's now a drug?
Yeah, yeah.
You've been snookered, my friend.
Well, there are some exceptions.
Once you get a grandfather, have him grandfather you.
Grandfather me.
Hey, grandfather me into the pact.
I need my old Auburn.
This is a real problem because you can't get this stuff in America.
And now when people can't mail it to me, they're going to have to come up with creative ways.
I'll bet you.
Well, I know I got a shipment after it was illegal, so they don't have the dogs in yet.
What do you mean?
You got a shipment yesterday?
No, this was June 29th.
Oh, June 29th.
I definitely received a package after that date.
You know, it's one of those things you're not going to be able to enforce.
What your problem is, it's unenforceable.
It's like I could name a few other things that go on that just don't get enforced.
Yeah, name one.
Um, no.
You could, but you don't feel like it right now.
No, no, I just don't want to name it.
However, the White House, meanwhile, has asked Congress to give clear authority to the FBI to obtain records related to the context of emails and other internet-based communications without first obtaining a warrant from a judge.
Oh, really?
Yes, this is according to the New York Times, the newspaper of the Ministry of Truth.
So that's interesting.
I was just watching, for this show, instead of watching my normal, you know, series of shows, I went left wing, so I decided to watch, you know, Thawm and Democracy Now!
By the way, I'm watching Thawm Hartman.
You watch him or you listen to him?
I watch him.
Oh, he has a TV show, huh?
Well, it's basically a recording of his radio show.
It's a webcam, right.
But he plays it as a TV show.
It's very poorly done.
And it's a cheap production, let's put it that way.
So my daughter's here, and she's like watching the show with me, because I'm saying, oh, here's a good clip, and I go back and forth.
And she out of the blue says, I was led to believe that I wouldn't, when I was younger, that I wouldn't have to watch this crap.
What?
She's made the claim that this kind of propaganda is not...
She shouldn't be even exposed to it because there was some promise made to her in some dimension somewhere.
She would never have to be subjected to this horrible TV show.
Well, wait a minute.
Who made the promise?
You?
I don't know.
She just comes out of the blue with this thing.
I guess she doesn't like the Tom Hartman show.
No, well, of course not.
She's a very intelligent young lady, but...
But you did not query her on what dimension this came from?
And she didn't say.
She just wouldn't tell me.
She just said she was objectionable.
And she was led to believe as a kid that she wouldn't be subjected to it.
And she gave you a look and turned around and went back to Facebook.
She watched it a little longer, because I was groaning about things.
Alright, so what did Thom have to say in regards to...
There was a couple of interesting things that showed up on these shows.
In regards to the FBI now being able to get our email without a warrant, which seems kind of like unconstitutional.
Well, here's what gets me.
Let me get to the right page here.
Here's what gets me.
Both the Thaum Hartman show and the...
It cracks me up when you just say Thaum.
It's got to piss him off.
Like he listens.
Oh, you never know.
It's like all they are is preoccupied with this Arizona law.
Here's what Jay said.
It's you, Dad, all right?
I learned by watching you.
Yeah, no.
It's like they're so preoccupied with this Arizona law in there.
I have to play a clip.
I've got a clip of a whole slew of protesters.
Yeah, they protested the Arizona immigration law.
In New York.
Yeah.
It's great, isn't it?
And they're covering it like it's big news, and then they play all these dimwits.
This is from Democracy Now!
I've got a clip here.
They play all these dimwits who have, say, some of the dumb, either they've got a vested interest or they're stupid, one of the two.
And it just goes on and on and on.
I watched this.
I got really angry.
Of course, I thought I was intrigued by this.
Here is this thing like this warrantless searching, habeas corpus, two wars, one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq.
Nobody cares about that, where people are actually dying, but people in New York City care about Arizona's laws, which are state laws for their own people within the state.
It boggles the mind.
Why are they wasting their energy on this?
Because they're panty waists.
Play that clip.
I'm Leticia Lannis from the organization La Union in Sunset Park, Brooklyn.
I think it's important that everybody raise their voices against SB 1070 and all other bills that try to criminalize immigrants.
Immigrants are our friends, our co-workers, our neighbors, and they contribute to this country, so we should stand up now and really recognize their contributions.
My name is Kevin Davis.
I'm actually a youth organizer for the Yaya Network, which is youth activist, youth ally.
There's your clue right there, a youth organizer.
Yeah, Obama.
Yeah, these are people brought in to do this, I guess.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Honestly, we're all one country and we're all united.
So the fact that one state is hurting, all of us are hurting.
The fact that one race is hurting, all of us are hurting.
Well, I'm Clementina from Vamos Unidos.
We are here to support our brothers and sisters from Arizona.
SB 1070 affects us everywhere.
We started to see a street vendor right here in New York when as soon as the law was applied over there in Arizona, a week later they were asking us for our immigration status to renew our vendor's license or take our vendor's license.
So my name is Monami Mollick, and I am the Executive Director of DRUM. DRUM stands for Desis Rising Up and Moving.
Whatever happens in Arizona, those same anti-immigrant policies find their way up all throughout the United States.
For the last 10 years, Arizona has been a testing ground for the...
Anti-immigrant policies?
It's anti-illegal immigrant policies.
No, the word illegal is never used amongst anybody in this country.
Why?
I don't understand.
John, and you've got another minute and a half.
I'm sure it's all more of the same crap.
There's some goodies in here.
Go on.
Well, then I... You don't understand what.
Why is this such a big deal?
It seems so...
I mean, I understand people say, oh, this is, you know, oh, now we're asking for Ausweisbitte and asking for your papers and all of this, but at the end of the day, illegal immigration.
Why are people moving this over towards just immigration?
What is the agenda here?
There is an agenda.
I just don't understand it.
Yeah.
Do you?
Well, I mean, I don't know what it is at the base, but I can tell you that there's a...
It's just a progressive thing about, you know, you want to get...
I don't know what it is.
Just say, I don't know.
It's okay if you don't.
I mean, I think I know, but whatever I actually think I know is really part of another narrative that is developed by the right-wing talk show guys, and I'm not sure that they're really catching what's really going on either, so I'm not going to, you know, I don't know.
I think it's just the government wants more cheap slaves.
Let them in.
Well, there's that element.
I mean, that's why the Republicans are all for it.
Cheap slavery.
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful thing.
And you're not actually shackled or anything, but you're cheap.
Actually, they are shackled by the fear that you're going to get found out.
Yeah.
That's a definite form of slavery.
Yeah, no, it's a form of slavery, and it's encouraged by the progressives.
If you want to take it to that level, it's definitely a form of slavery.
Maybe they need to do a fractal and maybe they need to, in order to stop the legalization of marijuana, they have to say that the Mexicans are all crazy again from smoking it.
That's what they did originally, right?
It was the crazy, the wacky Mexicans.
They're smoking that wacky weed.
They're going nuts.
Well, should we play some more of this?
Yeah, play some more.
There's a couple of one-liners in there that I want to comment on.
Okay.
Harshest anti-immigrant policies.
And so, for example, the governor of New York State signed secure communities already in New York, which has not yet gone into effect, but will.
And when it does, it'll funnel thousands more into deportation.
Just across the river, the governor has signed the 287G program, authorizing police officers to arrest people based on immigration status.
So we feel that Arizona...
Maybe that law is not happening here, but there are many other harsh anti-immigrant deportation provisions that our communities are feeling right here in New York City.
My name is Sarah, and I'm part of the Boycott Arizona New York City Committee.
We had a press conference for support of resolutions.
My God, how many groups are here?
How many groups are there?
There's thousands of them.
We've got burn, we've got drum, we've got blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, I know.
And they're all the same kind of group.
They're all pretty much organized by the World's Workers' Party, World's Slave Party.
So this Boycott Arizona thing, she goes on and out with some bogus crap that she thinks is going to get through.
They're going to boycott Arizona.
I mean, this is what, like, L.A. said they're going to boycott Arizona, and they got that note about, Yeah, of course not.
Well, here's what gets me.
By the way, this is illegal.
This is a violation of interstate commerce.
You can't do these kinds of things.
A state-to-state can't declare war on another state.
Yes, we can.
We can do whatever we want.
We're in California, man.
We're the People's Republic.
We can do whatever we want.
But this is the mistake.
So what does it cost a Mexican to illegally enter the United States?
A couple grand, right?
You get some guy, and he's got a van, and he leads you through the desert, and through the hole in the fence, whatever.
Yeah, it's like a tourism thing.
Look, Mickey is here legally in the United States.
She has a social security number.
And here's how it works.
It costs $325, which you pay to the Department of Homeland Security.
However, if you add an additional $1,000, you get the expedited service.
I kid you not.
It's $1,325, something like that.
We learned that from the Chinese.
$1,325.
And then in like a day, in like a day, it's like, okay, approved.
So they're just spending the money on the wrong people.
All you have to do is just give a check to the Department of Homeland Security.
You're just doing it the wrong way.
I don't understand the problem.
You don't have to sneak in.
We welcome you as long as you pay.
I'm baffled by the whole thing.
I'm baffled by the protests.
I'm baffled by the emphasis.
The emphasis is what baffles me the most.
Somebody sent me a Thaum Hartman program blog posting where they bitched about...
You know, FBI forcing companies in the phone company to provide internet service, turn over the FBI details of your personal internet activity without a court order.
Fine, it's on some blog post.
But this is not what the emphasis on these shows, either Democracy Now!
or Hartman or any other of the progressive shows, they are preoccupied with these protests.
And then the joke of it is the protests in Arizona.
A judge overthrows...
Basically overthrows the law.
They have to go really back to the drawing board to do it the way they want to do it.
But the protests against the law are continuing anyway because when you listen to the guys give a rationale, well, they're going to keep fighting it, so we might as well protest.
In other words, you win.
You've won, essentially, the battle because the courts threw out the law, more or less.
But you're going to protest anyway because you've already scheduled it.
I mean, what are these, a bunch of bureaucrats?
By the way, Mickey would like me to point out that her immigration status is based upon the fact that she has an exceptional talent and is therefore welcome here in the United States.
It's not because she's on par with someone who will clean the floor.
She gets really angry when I say it's just, you know, she gets angry when I say you just bought it.
I'm surprised she's listening to you.
Of course she listens.
She only listens to my side, though.
She doesn't listen to you.
She doesn't care about you.
She's missing the best part of the show.
No, she's getting the best part right here, baby.
Put your pants back on.
I've got 43 seconds left on this.
Want some more?
And then we'll get off this topic?
Yeah, we're done with it.
0224 at City Hall this Tuesday.
The resolution 0224 is a declaring of an official boycott against Arizona State.
And that would mean any business travel that would be going in Arizona would be barred, anyone from here going there.
Municipal bonds would not be accepted from Arizona.
Also conventions and any type of business, we just would not help.
This is un-American.
Shut up, I don't want to hear it.
No words.
How do you stop the bond?
You can't buy municipal bonds from Arizona.
That's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
You've got to love it, though.
It's a long clip, so it gives me something to...
Hey, good news, though, John.
Good news.
Good, good, good news.
Good news for our Presidente.
Allo Presidente.
On Face the Nation.
This past, I guess that was, was it Sunday?
Yeah, the 25th.
Yeah, this past Sunday.
We finally found out the true nature and true birthplace of our president.
It was on television!
And I have the clip to prove it.
I have the clip to prove it!
I missed it.
Yes, here it comes.
Michael Eric Dyson of Georgetown, you wanted to get into this discussion when we went to commercial break.
Yeah, Bob, a couple of things.
First of all, I agree with Dr.
Thernstrom that, look, there is an enormous ratcheting up of the incivility of racial discourse in America.
But the problem is, it's not that we offer criticism of Mr.
Obama.
Mr.
Obama, I met with him a couple of weeks ago in the Oval Office.
He is quite receptive to criticism, principled criticism, and criticism that's rooted in...
I think intellectual difference and even ideological or political difference.
But the reality is that when you see elements of the Tea Party portraying him as some African witch doctor, when you see elements of the far right wing acidly and acerbically reputying his humanity, what other president has been subject to the scrutiny over his birth certificate when it's been proved that he is from Earth, so to speak?
This guy's Ebonics are amazing, by the way.
Yeah, I did hear that.
It's been proved.
That's all it takes now.
Take your papers with you.
Mickey's going out.
Just take your papers.
Take your papers.
Oh, by the way, before I forget, she is so pissed off.
Because when she wants to buy alcohol or tobacco, which we have been known to consume, she has her Dutch driver's license.
We have to get our California state driver's license.
And she has her Dutch passport.
And they will not accept it as valid ID. Let me...
I'm glad you brought that up because this happened...
I was over with JC at the Pyramid Brewery to try some new beer.
And JC looks...
You know, he's 25 or whatever, but he looks like he's 17 if you wanted to be.
Mickey does...
I mean, Mickey looks young, but she doesn't look like she's under 21.
No, she doesn't.
But actually, she does.
Now that you mention it, Mickey looks like she's about 16.
Yeah, you look like you're...
She's already gone.
She took her papers and split.
Oh, that's too bad.
I blew it.
Good try.
It always works, though.
I've done it.
But let me tell you why they're refusing her papers.
Well, before you do that, let me continue the story.
Okay.
So we go in there and the guy says, no, Berkeley now, you can't.
He pulls out his passport.
What better ID is it?
This is the papers we're talking about.
Yeah.
Pulls out his passport.
No, it's no good.
It has to be a state, an official state ID. It has to be the state of California driver's license.
And I said, what?
Yeah, and I looked this up.
Because Mickey came home fuming.
And she's on the phone to Ralph's.
And she's like, I want the manager!
You know, bro!
She's going off.
She's going off, man.
I'm like, okay, baby, let me look this up for you.
It turns out that it is absolutely not a law that you have to have a state ID. However, it is, of course, the responsibility of the place selling the tobacco or liquor If they catch someone underage buying any of these products, then regardless, the store is in big trouble.
So it's store policy that it has to be a California, or in this case California, but a state identification.
And it's because of the eye color, hair color, and height are not on all passports.
And pictures are not always in color.
I mean, there's all these really stupid little things, but it is not a law.
It is absolutely not a law that it has to be a state ID. But somehow people have gotten it into their noggins that it has to be, and it's irritating.
Of course, when I go to pick anything up, they don't even ask me for ID. Like, hey, old man, here you go.
Smoke up!
Huh.
Yeah, but she's had it once at the gas station?
At the gas station!
For cigarettes.
And then for alcohol at Ralph's.
For cigarettes?
That's ridiculous.
This state is crap.
You know, they claim at the Pyramid Brewery that it was the Berkeley police that made the decision.
Bullshit.
It's just not true.
I looked it up.
I looked at all the state legislature, all the laws.
You...
They just have to be able to not sell products to someone who's underage, however they prove it.
They could measure your feet.
It doesn't make any difference.
It is not a requirement that it has to be a state idea.
So they lie.
Yeah, but I also only have a passport, and I have a Dutch driver's license, which is even worse, which actually expires in a month.
I've got to get my just a pain in the ass DMV. I want to deal with it.
Yeah, but get ready to wait in long lines.
This is a very interesting contrast to the Washington State DMV. You walk in.
You walk right up to the counter.
They give you a cappuccino.
Pretty close.
Have a peat.
It's so dark.
So you go up there.
You walk up to the counter.
There's nobody there.
You fill out the form right on the spot.
They stamp some stuff.
They give you your license right there on the spot.
They give you the tags for your car right on the spot.
And you're out of there in five minutes.
I've got to take the test, actually.
Well, you'd have to take a test, too.
A driving test?
I have to take the driving test.
Yeah, you have to take it.
Of course you do.
Crazy Dutch guy.
But I have a valid license from another valid entity.
You're going to have to park.
Here's the test.
Can you park and can you feed the meter?
Just remember one thing there.
I have a couple of tricks in there.
One of them is when you make a right turn...
This is one of the tricks for the driving test for anyone out there who wants to get the light.
It varies, by the way, from state to state.
For example, when you make a left turn in California into, say, a six-lane road, you can actually go into any of the lanes from the left turn.
Dude, the test is on a closed basketball court.
No, they take it on the street.
No, they don't!
Since when?
Mickey went down there to check it out.
She said there's a couple of pylons and you drive around them, you parallel park and you're done.
That's pretty lame.
That's awesome.
Well, we'll see.
You never know.
But whatever the case is, the tricky question is, is when you make a right...
By the way, in Washington State, when you make a left turn like that, you have to go to the one lane only, the lane nearest to you.
When you make a right turn in California, you have to keep it in the right lane.
You can't veer into the next lane over when you're making a right turn.
You have to be tight and keep it in that, otherwise it's an illegal right turn.
So that's the trick.
Even if there's an arrow in your lane?
If there's an arrow in your lane, you have to go still turn into the lane nearest to you.
You can't go zooming into the fast lane.
Another tip from John C. DeVore.
I have a million of them.
We love it.
So here's a story I want to play.
We're on the political thing, and I got all these clips from these...
Funny, we're on politics.
It never happens.
Well, here's one.
I could go to the Thom Hartman show and the...
No, give me something.
Okay, here.
You know your buddy Wiener?
Anthony Wiener from Brooklyn!
Yeah, that guy.
Yeah, yeah, John Stewart's former roommate.
Yeah, so he blew up in Congress, right?
Yeah.
Well, didn't we play this clip when he blew up and then they made him take it back, take it back?
That was all about the Republicans.
I think it was with health care.
This is another health care.
This just happened.
Well, I'm sure he does it more than once.
Yeah, because he likes to get on TV. Yeah, he's an angry young man.
Oh, he loves getting on TV. So now he blows up over health care for victims of 9-11, a specific health care.
Oh, yeah.
So he is Chuck Schumer's boy, by the way.
Chuck Schumer is shepherding him.
But if he doesn't keep a lid on it, he's going to get marginalized.
Well, this guy, he's going all the way.
He's trying.
He's not going to make it.
He'll make Senator, and that's going to be the end of it.
Well, he's Congressman.
Yeah, he'll go to Senate, and that's the end of him.
That's a step up.
It is a step up.
So Hartman had this clip.
I had the clip from C-SPAN, but then Hartman had the same clip.
But he was doing voiceovers and making comments, and he's talking about, Wiener kicked his butt, he kicked his ass, he kicked it.
Hartman sounds like a 12-year-old in a schoolyard fight.
When Weiner comes up and blows up at this representative, and this is not too dissimilar from the other time he blew up.
And so the issue at hand is apparently there was some legislation that got voted down that would have given victims of 9-11 some extra free health care.
Do we know why it was voted down?
Do we know what the opposition was?
I never got the whole story because you couldn't figure it out from this guy or Hartman.
They never said.
But the punchline is it was voted down after Wiener made this big fuss.
I think it was just voted down because it was just another scam of some sort.
It probably was.
We need to look into it because I only heard about this last night and I just didn't have time.
Quite honestly, I couldn't find anything.
I'm like, what?
This makes no sense.
No, it doesn't make any sense.
Which is why it's being played up, obviously.
Yeah.
So let's play this clip.
It's a very funny area.
And Congressman Peter King, who also represents New York State, or a part of New York State, I think it's more of an upstate part of New York State, Congressman Peter King, the Republican, was leading a procedural effort to stop the vote.
Which, by the way, is a new thing.
It's a new meme.
This is old-fashioned.
No, no, no.
The meme is the procedural.
Oh, yeah, this is a meme.
They're trying to make it sound as though it's never been done before except for these evil Republicans.
Yeah, and of course, it can be removed immediately.
Only the Democrats don't want to do that because they want to have the same procedural benefit when it behooves them.
Right?
Exactly.
Anthony Weiner, the Democrat, goes on the House floor and just absolutely raises hell with Peter King, the Republican, about why Peter King is using this slimy technique to try to stop this thing.
And every time this guy stands up and says, basically, stop talking, Anthony Weiner shoves it down his throat.
Watch this.
Mr.
Speaker, I yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from New York, Mr.
Weiner.
Great courage until all members have already spoken and then stand up and wrap your arms around procedure.
We see it in the United States Senate every single day where members say, we want amendments, we want debate, we want amendments, but we're still a no.
And then we stand up and say, oh, if only we had a different process, we'd vote yes.
You vote yes if you believe yes.
If you vote in favor of something, you will believe it's the right thing.
If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no.
We are following a procedure.
I will not yield to the government, and the government will have no recognition.
He's nailing him.
He gets up and yells, but he's going to intimidate people into believing he's right.
He is wrong.
The gentleman is wrong.
The gentleman is providing cover for his colleagues rather than doing the right thing.
It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans rather than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes.
It is a shame!
A shame!
If you believe this is a bad idea to provide health care, then vote no!
But don't give me the cowardly view that, oh, if it was a different procedure, the gentleman will observe regular order and sit down!
I will not!
The gentleman will sit!
The gentleman is correct in sitting!
Wow, he's doing a shut-up slave on him.
Totally.
The gentleman will sit, shut-up slave.
I will not stand here and listen to my colleagues say, oh, if only I had a different procedure that allows us to stall, stall, stall, and then vote no.
Instead of standing up and defending your colleagues and voting no on this humane bill, you should urge them to vote yes, something the gentleman has not done.
There you go, Anthony Weiner.
Good on you, sir.
And just kicking Peter King's butt right across the House floor and calling him out, but still it failed.
This from Politico.
Still it failed.
Good job.
It just kicked his butt, but still it failed.
Well, I think you're right.
I think Anthony Weiner...
So first of all, he's one of these young guys.
He's younger than I am, but kind of the same age.
And he's understood the message.
The meme is very clearly procedural tactics.
And I just got to presume that this is bogus, and that's why procedural tactics are being used.
I can't imagine anyone, Republican or Democrat, not wanting to offer something as simple as special health care to first responders of the inside job known as 9-11.
Right.
Well, let's save that for the second half of the show.
WTC said it won't go away!
The point is that we have to look into it.
We'll figure it out.
We'll have it for one of our shows in the future.
And yeah, that's what you do.
You've got a situation where you set up a law, which has got a lot of writers and other kinds of weird stuff in it.
But the law itself is like the Child Protection Act law.
And in the law, there's a bunch of earmarks and comments.
Crazy things that are thrown in.
It's got nothing to do with child protection whatsoever.
And you can't afford to vote no on it because...
Oh, what?
He voted no against the...
It's about the children!
It's about the children!
He voted no against child protection.
He's a bad person.
So you have to come up with some other way of doing it because you don't want to vote yes because the bill sucks.
And so you come up with some bogus, you know, this thing, and then this guy blows up and makes you look like an idiot, or of course he looks like an idiot doing it.
But the whole thing is just that, you know, this is the problem that they have with these bills with all these hidden agenda features built into the bill.
They don't want to do anything.
They don't want to do line item vetoes.
They don't want to do this.
They don't want to do that.
They just create the Children's Protection Act.
They might as well just name every bill that.
And then you vote it up with a bunch of pork and scams and crazy ideas and laws that got nothing to do with anything.
And then you put it in as the Child Protection Act.
It's got nothing to do with it.
Mickey says, 16, I love you, John.
She just texted me.
I guess she's listening to the stream in the car.
Well, here's another example.
Of how that works.
So we were talking about your health care now being added to your W-2 forms, which is essentially the form that your employer sends to the IRS so that they can show what taxes have been withheld.
It's a tax document.
And Eric the Shill actually sent this to me.
Factcheck.org, which of course is part of the government.
John, you and I are wrong!
We're wrong!
We're so wrong!
So they quote from this email that's been going around.
So the question, does the new health care law require workers to pay income tax on the value of employer-provided health insurance?
Answer, no.
The value will appear on the employee's W-2 forms for information purposes, but will not be considered taxable income.
Words matter in this case, because then they go through this whole thing, like, oh, this email is bogus, and perhaps you overlook the most important line in the legislation, where it states, a requirement that businesses include the value of health care benefits they provide to employees on W-2s, beginning with W-2s for 2011.
The amount reported is not considered taxable income.
I believe that this is doublespeak.
And if you look up the word consider in the dictionary, it is equated to belief or something you might think.
It doesn't actually say it is not taxable income.
No, it is not considered taxable income.
And I think that's just a setup for it to become taxable income in the future.
What do you think?
Well, I'm going to have to read some of this over, and we'll see.
I mean, we need a tax attorney here for this, but I would be guessing that it would go, I think the argument would go something like this, because they don't want to, so you make, say, somebody makes $10,000 a month, and then they have, on top of that, they get $3,000 worth of health care, which is probably low, but Yeah.
And so their income is $10,000 a month.
The $3,000 isn't considered taxable income.
Why would you do this?
Well, isn't the word considered?
Why do they say considered?
Why not just say it is not taxable income?
It isn't taxable income.
Why does it say it isn't considered taxable income?
But is it in itself taxable?
That's the question.
In other words, when I go buy gasoline and they tax me for the gasoline, it's not taxable income, but I'm paying tax.
Right.
So I'm getting a benefit.
I'm paying tax on the benefit.
In other words, I'm buying gasoline.
And I'm paying X amount of money in taxes for the gasoline.
Let's say I buy $4 worth of gasoline.
I pay a buck in taxes.
I have to pay that dollar.
But it's not because I have $3 in taxable income from the gasoline.
No, I understand your point.
I'm just taking exception with the word considered.
I don't understand why they have to throw that in there.
Just say it's not taxable.
The fact that it has anything to do with the 1099 at all.
W-2.
I'm sorry, what did I say?
There's something fishy about it, so it'll shake out, but they're going to ding us.
I mean, except for the Democrats, there seem to be really for taxation, which is something I watch all these left-wing and progressive shows, and they seem to relish the idea of massive taxation.
I don't get this, and I've argued with friends of mine who are Democrats, and I say, why do you want more taxes?
Well, we need taxes to pay for this and that.
More?
More taxes?
What are more taxes for?
They want more taxes.
It's crazy.
Really?
Who are these people?
You hang out with these people?
There's highway over here, Highway 80.
Oh, don't start with the potholes again, please.
Please don't start with the potholes.
We're tired of the potholes.
Just saying that there are potholes.
Yeah, but who are you hanging out with?
Get some new friends.
These guys are okay.
Let me tell you about taxes then, okay?
Here's the taxes.
First of all, how about tobacco tax?
Alright, so that is now, we've gone up 156% on federal taxes on tobacco since the Obama administration came in.
Of course, we have the tax on indoor tanning services.
We have the medicine cabinet tax, which goes into effect in January.
You can no longer use your health savings account, which is what actually we advocated on this show.
So that will actually put huge taxes on withdrawing money from a health savings account, so you can't basically save for health care.
The special needs kids tax goes into effect in 2013.
The medical prosthetics and devices tax in 2013.
The medical itemized deductions cap takes place January 2013.
I mean, these are all taxes, all part of the legendary legislation.
I'm still waiting for someone on television to say, I've got free healthcare.
This thing rocks.
Yay, President Obama.
I still haven't found that person.
I have not found that person.
And everyone's forgotten about it.
We're on to Lindsay Lohan in jail.
We're also on to some other bull crap.
Of course, they keep trying to push through the cap and trade.
So back to...
Well, actually, we could...
We're at the point where...
Don't you have any real news?
I'm bored.
Well, I got some real news.
Oh, I got one.
I got one.
And now, back to real news.
Okay.
What?
Well, I got real news.
Well, play the real news.
I just played the real news.
Do you not hear the real news?
What?
Didn't you hear the jingle?
I heard the real news jingle.
Okay, so that's your cue.
Real news.
Oh, I thought you were going to talk about Lindsay Lohan getting out of jail in nine days instead of 90.
No, screw it.
I was going to talk about our first lady.
What happened to her?
Well, she's in Marbella right now with the rest of the gangsters.
In Marbella.
In Spain.
Why?
Vacation.
Oh.
But Marbella, I've been there.
Don't we have two wars going on?
There's nothing but gangsters there.
I swear to God.
Is that right?
It's 100% gangster paradise.
Rolls Royces up and down the boulevard.
Have you been there?
Yes!
It's horrible.
It's disgusting.
I'm like, oh my god.
You want to buy a t-shirt, you can only buy it at the John Galliano shop.
A $300 t-shirt.
It's crazy there.
It's nuts.
It's where all the gangsters go to vacation.
Really?
Yeah.
Where are the Obamas going there?
I think it's only the First Lady and Sasha.
I don't know.
They've got to go collect some money from somebody.
And then, of course, we have...
You're saying that the First Lady is a bag man?
She's a bag man.
She's a black bagger.
Okay, so as of 3 p.m.
Eastern Time, so that's in just two hours from now, there is a no-fly zone along the Hudson River in New York as Chelsea Clinton...
We'll be getting married to the Goldman Sachs investment banker Mark Mazvinsky.
I would have to say, as an aviator, that is rare that that happens.
Of course, the FAA website says the restriction is in place for very important person movement.
But that's it.
Well, you're telling me that they've shut down the airspace for an ex-president's daughter's wedding?
Well, of course, there's going to be lots of GS people there.
But I think it's essentially to stop paparazzi helicopters.
That's what it's about, obviously.
So they don't protect anybody else?
No.
Well, you're just a slave.
Shut up, slave.
You don't get any special protection.
By the way, our vegan in residence...
He claims, and I think he may be right, that Chelsea is a vegan.
That's new.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
She hasn't made that very public.
No, no.
But she's...
Well, wait a minute.
I think she did an interview in Health and Style magazine where she says she's a vegan.
Maybe she just said it.
Just to get in a magazine.
I don't think she needs to use that to get in a magazine.
I think she can get in any way she wants.
But it's cool the way the elites are just all marrying into each other.
Oh, yeah.
No, this is like the king of Spain marrying the daughter of the queen of England.
There's kind of these deals.
Yeah, yeah.
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful thing.
Yeah, and they need some Goldman Sachs people in the family anyway with all that money that Clinton's hoarding.
So let me do a quick little thing on the United States of Europe, because it's always important to talk about these things as a warning and also just to show you how it always goes down in real life.
Of course, we saw half of the Polish government wiped out in a fog-related accident.
Now we have Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary.
And he is doing exactly what the rest in peace president of Poland did.
He's sticking up a big middle finger to the IMF. Oh, yeah.
Back in the early days of the financial crisis, Hungary's economy, I'm reading here, was one of the hardest hit in the European Union.
The EU and the IMF moved quickly to stave off a financial collapse by promising a 20 billion euro standby bailout package to back the country's finances.
The package is enormous by any standards, comprising over 15% of the country's GDP. And basically, Prime Minister Orban said, take your package and shove it.
Quote, I run this country, not you.
Ah, poor guy.
We should have a dead pool on him.
So he's essentially, he said to his financial sector, he said, you guys are going to take, you go ahead and fail.
I'm not going to put in austerity measures.
I'm not making the people of Hungary pay for this.
You go ahead and take your lumps and shove it.
And this, of course, does not sit well with the European Union and the IMF, the economic hitmen of the world.
So, yeah, I think we do need a dead pool on the guy.
I would recommend not flying for a while.
And don't get into your jacuzzi.
Take the train.
Don't get in the jacuzzi because you might close the lid on top of you and suicide yourself.
And good on this guy for standing up against the true evil.
My prediction?
Hunting accident.
It shouldn't be when, it should be how.
That's our Deadpool.
It's not when the guy's going to die.
How is he going to die?
You think hunting accident, huh?
Yeah, I think that would be a good one.
Because we haven't played that game for a while.
Well, hold on.
Let me Google him.
Let me see if he has any hobbies.
If he plays poker, it could be an unfortunate card-cutting incident.
It could be all kinds of...
We can just guess how this guy is going to get it.
Let's see.
Hold on a second.
He spent his...
Okay.
Management of training.
Boring, boring, boring.
How do you spell his last name again?
O-R-B-A-N. Victor Orban.
Oh, hold on a second.
He's very fond of sports, especially of football.
That would be soccer, of course.
Oh, unfortunate football accident.
What do you think?
Struck by lightning on the football field.
He doesn't look like much of a hunter.
In fact, that's a great cover.
On his first hunting expedition.
That would be perfect, right?
He's very fond of sports, especially football, like you said.
He's a sportsman, you know, it could be.
Oh, boy.
Well, I like that he just stood up there and said, I run this country, not you, to the IMF. Yeah.
I mean, that's huge.
That's absolutely huge.
It's a death warrant.
Yeah.
It's so sad.
It's so sad.
Right.
Or something.
There could also be a scandal.
They could roust him.
No, I think this guy's actually got to go.
I mean, and now he's writing their pocketbook.
You know, he's saying, banks, screw you.
Then go ahead, bankrupt.
You're done.
Get out of here.
I'm not going to put it on the people.
That's so huge.
I mean, that's a true hero.
But, of course, that's exactly what the president of Poland did.
And then he got on a plane.
And that was it.
Let me read this.
In July 2007, the economist criticized his cynical populism.
Cynical.
That's good.
The economist is turning into a mouthpiece.
You know, like the train thing.
Cynical populism and mystifying authoritarian socialist-style policies, meanwhile, domestically strongly demonized by the majority of the left-wing and liberal media.
Here, chat room says, bizarre gardening accident.
Falling down a stairwell.
Stairwell thing's always good.
Heart attack with a prostitute.
That's a double whammy for you.
That's a double tap right there.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Ate some bad mushrooms.
Mmm.
Slipped.
Choking in his own vomit.
Oh, that's always a good one, too.
Oh, my goodness.
People think we're kidding.
Unfortunately, we're not.
You can just sit here and just predict the stuff.
It's so easy.
We see it time and time again.
It's getting pretty easy.
So I have a, if we're going to do this, I have a kind of a, talking about, this is kind of a real news story, but not quite.
This is, you know, remember at the Mevio, they used to have this Indian quality control guy.
Shrikant.
Shrikant, who couldn't speak.
No, he could speak perfectly, he just couldn't understand what he was saying.
He couldn't understand a word he said.
Yeah.
And one of the people at the company, I won't say who, always wanted to put him on a show as sort of a joke.
Yeah.
Yeah, which I thought was the most racist, rude thing ever.
It was totally racist, totally rude.
Inappropriate, yeah.
So I'm thinking, you know, do people actually pull this kind of a stunt to see if they can get away with it?
So BP put out this ad...
That has a guy who supposedly is in charge of some of the oil cleanup, and the guy can not, for the life of him, either pronounce any word, but he can't pronounce the word oil.
He keeps pronouncing it earl and earl and everything in between.
And so you listen to this with your jaw drops.
You say, what are they?
Who are they?
Is this just to insult the public?
I don't know.
Probably.
Let's listen to it.
There's oil out there we've got to capture.
My job is to hunt it down.
I'm Fred Lamond, and I'm in charge of BP's efforts to remove oil from these waters.
BP has taken full responsibility for the cleanup, and that includes keeping you informed.
Every morning, over 50 spotter planes and helicopters take off and search for the oil.
We use satellite images, infrared and thermal photography to map and target the oil.
Then, the boats go to work.
Almost 6,000 vessels.
These are thousands of local shrimp and fishing boats organized into task forces and strike teams, plus specialized skimmers from around the world.
We've skimmed over 27 million gallons of water mixture and removed millions more with other methods.
We've set out more than 8 million feet of boom to protect the shoreline.
I grew up on the Gulf Coast, and I love these waters.
We can't keep all the oil from coming ashore, but I'm going to do everything I can to stop it, and we'll be here.
Well, the guy's just Southern.
I mean, that's just a Southern accent.
This is not a normal Southern accent.
Most everyone I know from the South can say oil.
They don't say ore.
Well, it's a marketing piece.
The guy grew up there, he says, that it's got to look like, you know, this is...
By the way, it's not true.
None of this is true.
BP is actually pulling back on cleanup efforts.
Time Magazine, another arm of the Ministry of Truth, says, oh, they've got a big budget.
It's not all that bad.
It's okay.
And I have here, in my possession, this is really fun.
Remember the 30...
I'm sorry, the $20 billion escrow, not fund, but escrow, that BP promised to set up.
Which, by the way, if I can believe Mr.
Feinberg, the guy who's in charge of doling it out?
Feinberg or Feingold, one of the two.
Anyway, I was watching the C-SPAN coverage.
Those are secret negotiations, by the way, between the Obama administration and BP. And he is even not privy to the actual framing of the agreement.
It still hasn't been done, but it's starting to get done.
And here's how it works.
They don't actually transfer any money.
They are obtaining letters of credit From certain banks, and they're not American banks, I might point out.
I have seen with my own eyes a letter of credit for almost $1 billion from HSBC, and that is how the escrow works.
So the money stays in their account, and the funniest thing is, it says, we hereby certify this money has not been obtained by criminal means.
Ha!
It's a great letter of credit.
So it's a total scam.
It's a total, total, total scam.
And yesterday...
And Congress voted for the moratorium to be ended on drilling off the Gulf Coast.
So here's how it worked.
First, we end everything.
We end it long enough, three months, and this drilling costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a day per rig.
So all the smaller guys had to get out because they couldn't afford to not be drilling.
They all left.
Who's left BP? Now the moratorium has been lifted, and now the only outfit there that can still afford it and that's left is BP. And of course, BP will probably file for some kind of bankruptcy to just transfer the assets to the new BP. And it's a perfect scam.
And by the way, the scientists from the Obama administration who lied, and this has already come out in congressional testimony, they lied that it was...
I'm sorry.
I said it the wrong way around.
They didn't lie.
They told the truth.
The administration turned their words around and put the moratorium on.
None of this is...
No one has to account for that.
So this 90-day stall was based upon testimony that was falsified.
Let's put it that way.
And no one gives a crap.
No one's being pulled in front of a Congress or a Congressional testimony or anything for any of that.
Eh, just keep on going.
Let's talk about blowjobs on Joy Behar.
There you go.
It's nuts.
We need to thank some people speaking of blowjobs.
Sure.
Yeah, first let me preface this by talking about what goes on in the regular media.
There's an interesting thing happening at the moment, and this is one of the things that why, again, we have to be a listener-supported show, because we don't need to, or want to, or have any desire, as a matter of fact, to appeal to the major demographic that the television people, 18 to 49, which is the big money.
Now, there's a bunch of things happening in the media right now which has to do with this, and I want to mention it.
And there's a couple of articles on Deadline.com discussing this.
And let me just refer to both two of these articles.
One is TV ageism.
40-year-olds are now declared old.
I'm ancient!
After separating contestants by race and gender in recent editions of Survivor, it was probably inevitable for the CBS reality show to also play an age card.
Indeed, the network this morning announced that the new 20 new castaways on Survivor, Nicaragua, will be divided into two tribes of 10, young versus old.
What was surprising for me was the criteria the old tribe features individuals over the age of 40, while the young tribe is comprised by individuals 30 years of age and younger.
So in other words, 40 is now old.
And so this meme is continuing, this ageist meme, which by the way is interesting coming out of liberal Hollywood.
It's kind of a bigoted ageist meme.
And I just got an email referring to the show Rookie Blue, which not only was the recent episode, which is available on Hulu, has a 90-year-old man who everybody in the show excoriates as being old.
And then it turns out that the 90-year-old man that was in the show was also the murderer.
90.
And a pedophile.
Peter Bear, of course!
So they're trying to, you know, again, this is kind of this ageist bigotry is starting to show up on television because they can't deal with a broad...
Because they can't sell ads based on...
Because there's this myth that it has to be 1824, and they can't...
1834, maybe.
Well, there's three or four demos, but anything over 49 is...
No, but the sweet spot is 1824, and then you're up to 34.
They can't sell anything, so they have to get rid of them.
In fact, just alienate them.
We don't want you showing up here at all.
We only want the young kids.
Yeah, they don't want them showing up at all because it indicates a bad sign that somebody older than the age of 40 would be watching your show.
So this whole thing is just a disaster, and that's why we do what we do, which is do a listener-supported, real listener-supported, not phony listener-supported.
Not like the National Treasures PBS and NPR. We have a few extra people we want to thank, including Michael Kearns out of Platte City, Missouri.
Eric Braley out of Poulsbo.
Very interesting town.
If anyone's in Washington State, you drive through the downtown Poulsbo, Washington, you'll be highly entertained.
It's essentially a Norwegian little town.
You'd think you're in Europe.
Mark Tissing, Amsterdam.
Right.
Very good, John.
This is in honor of two to the head for kicking John out of the chat room.
So I gave 53.33.
Yourdonation.com is his website.
Yourdonation.com.
Sorry about that.
Nigel Evan, Columbus, Ohio.
Listening to show number one.
Ewan.
I think it's a W. I don't think it's a V. Did I say, what did I say?
You said Evan.
I think it's Ewan.
Ewan, maybe.
I don't know.
I've been listening to the show since number one, and I enjoyed Thursday's show more than usual.
I was listening to the show in my basement while working on my sewing machine, and I had a moment of epiphany.
I realized how incredibly much I love listening to you guys and how sad I'd be if you ever had to quit.
So thanks for the great value.
Here's some value from me.
Well, in fact, quite the opposite, Nigel.
I quit my other job, effectively, to be able to provide more value here.
And I appreciate the support.
The checks stop at the end today.
The last day is today.
Mary Costello, Pittston, Pennsylvania.
She's making a donation on behalf of her husband, Joe Costello, for her 28th wedding anniversary on today, as a matter of fact.
Yeah, great.
Congratulations.
Joe is an avid listener and fan.
He highly recommends Snow Agenda to all of our family and friends, and even to some of his patients.
Nice.
That's cool.
Okay, cough.
Listen to No Agenda.
Turn your head and cough.
No, you will donate to No Agenda.
Keep up the good work.
We really enjoyed this show.
Thanks, Mary.
That's great.
Have a great day today.
Yeah, it should be fun.
I'm sure the conversation at the dinner table will be fun.
I can just see Joe.
We have three nights and a couple of birthdays, including a belated one that came.
And also, there's somebody sending a late donation, and I want to...
Why don't we do the birthdays real quick first?
Because there's just a few.
Okay, so first we congratulate Jeffrey Yang.
It is his birthday today.
He, of course, is one of our executive producers for the show.
I think we did this last week, but just in case, night to be Joshua Dale turns, well, I guess...
On the second.
On the second, he turns one, I guess.
I'm not quite sure.
Turns one.
But he's a night to be.
And also, Paul Couture's birthday shout-out for his wife.
Oh yes, very important.
We'll be talking about Paul in just a moment.
So happy birthday from your friends here at No Agenda.
It's your birthday, yeah!
Then we have a couple knighthoods.
And we also have George Vanderhorst.
It says Miss George Vanderhorst.
Hmm.
Okay.
We'll figure out what that is in a minute.
Can you take out your blade there for a second, John?
Here it comes.
Yeah.
Very nice.
Okay.
Boy, these knighthoods.
Wow.
Three of them today.
This is indeed quite stellar.
All right.
DUIhelp.com.
Representing DUIhelp.com.
Joshua Dale, please step forward.
Fine-looking entrepreneur right there.
Joshua Dale, because you have supported the No Agenda show with up to $1,000, we hereby knight thee.
Sir, DUIhelp.com, knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
That's a weird-looking knight with that DUIhelp.com on his helmet.
It's kind of trippy.
Matthew Payton, please step forward.
I think we need a different blade for him.
There we go.
Matthew Payton, do you solemnly swear to always help damsels in distress?
You do?
You can just nod.
Okay, perfect.
We're here by night B, Sir Matthew Payton.
Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
Enjoy some hookers and blow today.
They're on sale.
And then we have, I just want to read the notes from Paul Couture, who is giving up his obvious knighthood.
The first of what will be 12 knights is a part of the NoAgendaFans.com coin challenge.
So these are beautiful coins, and Paul took it upon himself to create these coins, and he's put up the whole sale, the manufacture, everything, beautiful cases, these things, they look just spectacular.
People love them.
They're drilling holes in them to make them into rings.
Since the Night Rings are still in the making.
Moving along.
Yeah, moving along.
So here's the first of what would be 12 Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, the Order of the Mint.
So this is a special knighthood, apparently.
I think he's only going to make 500 coins.
So the challenge is for producers, that's what we call our listeners, to purchase a total of 500 coins from NoAgendaFans.com that will generate $9,999.99 for the show.
NoAgendaFans will increase that to $12,345.67, which of course is, I love the numerology, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
And make $11,000 of that donation through knighthoods purchased on behalf of 11 non-knights that order at least one coin towards the goal of 500.
So not only could you get a beautiful coin, you could also receive a knighthood.
And today we would like James Adamson to step forward.
James, come on over here.
James, it's going to take him a second because he lives in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
Well, James, we've certainly...
Wow!
Oh, man, that coin just blinged in my eyes.
It's a beautiful thing.
On behalf of the Order of the Mints, we hereby pronounce the Sir James Adamson, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
There we go.
It's official now.
Okay, now I have a couple of points of order here.
First of all, I do want to thank George Vanderhorst.
He gave us 50 bucks and I passed it over from Kotzovel.
Oh, Kotzovel.
Netherlands.
Kotzovel.
Now we have...
Wait, did you get Mark Tissing?
I think you missed him too.
Did I? Mark Tissing in Amsterdam?
No, no, we did him.
Twice.
Okay.
My mistake.
So, in a debate with Eric as we speak on the chat back channel and over whether Paul Couture, because he has donated $1,000, I think, total on his own, if he gets a knighthood or if he wants one yet...
I think the guy needs to be knighted regardless.
No, I realize that, but does he want it now, or does he want to pass it off and then take it at the end?
I don't know.
Take it at the end?
What are you saying?
That baby's a poor choice of words.
Take this at the end.
Well, you know what?
Paul, he can let us know.
He'll let us know, and I'm happy to give him a special order of the mint.
I mean, anything he wants.
Yeah, okay, we'll just do something special.
But now he's going to be a black knight if this is true.
Ooh, a Black Order of the Mint Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
It just gets longer and longer.
People, by the way, a good reverend who donates to the show, he is working on his knighthood, and he says, you know, because I'm in the clergy, I can't officially use the title sir in front of my reverend.
And he wants to know, can he do a suffix?
What does that mean?
Like a Night of the Noagenda roundtable, so it would be K-O-N-A-R. Oh, right.
Well, yeah, right, right.
Like the Order of the British Empire, the O-B-D. Right, O-B-E. We have to dream up some of these things.
I don't like Konar.
It doesn't sound right.
No, Konar's no good.
It's too long.
It should be three letters only.
And by the way, so Eric is convincing evidence that Paul should be knighted this week.
Oh, hold on.
Paul wants it.
Come over here, Paul.
I'm going to give that to you, man.
All right.
Paul Couture!
You are indeed a special knight, my friend, and we are very proud to have you here on the podium, on the dais, the dais, whatever you call that thing, that wooden box we're standing on.
John, yes, good, you got your sword.
Paul Couture, for outstanding achievement and support of the No Agenda program, we hereby knight thee.
The Black Knight in the order of the Mint of the No Agenda Roundtable.
You are now Sir Paul Couture.
I have a special seat over here right next to the hookers and blow for you.
Awesome.
That was a long...
It was nowhere near the commercials I had to bear on that show last night.
Oh, yeah.
So, please.
We've already given more content than any two-hour show ever.
Yes, please.
In fact, we have literally given more content than any two-hour radio show at this point.
Right, and we're only half done.
We're just getting started.
We've only just begun.
So, anyway, congratulations to everybody, and we want you to, anyone who wants to help us out here on this show, it's dvorak.org slash na.
You can look at my, uh...
Your wonderful Dreamweaver page.
Oh, Dreamweaver!
Or you can go to channeldvorak.com slash NA. And those links have all been updated, by the way.
So, dvorak.org slash NA. And the noagendashow.com has a link to the donation page.
Please give us a hand and keep this the user-supported show that everybody else would love to have in their basket.
And right after I return from my short, very cheap vacation...
As I'm staying at a friend's house.
There's nothing better than having a house on a beautiful island than having a friend with a house on a beautiful island.
Then you'll be seeing a lot more coming out of the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center as I have freed up my time in total belief that this model will work and that it will support us, the show, John and I. And we use this to pay bills, by the way.
Until we start to suck.
Well, yeah, if we suck, then that's our own fault.
Then it's our own fault.
Also, consider the $33.33 monthly subscription, which will automatically get you a boarding pass for the mothership.
We have sufficient boarding passes still left over, and of course, another one added to the mix on Thursday when John announced he will be staying behind.
I'm not going.
He will not be joining us.
I will be piloting the craft.
That's probably the reason.
They've already shown up over China, so it's absolutely coming very soon, and you'll just be able to show up.
But you don't even have to check in online.
You just show up and say, here's my boarding pass, and they'll say...
And you get your seat right there.
And you also support the show at the same time.
And it's the support we need most.
Highly, highly, highly appreciated.
So, Dvorak.org slash NA or you go to NoAgendaShow.com.
And also, by the way, the show notes...
That Adam does for this show are astonishing.
It's almost like, I mean, I've seen people put links together, but if you're a researcher out there doing any kind of political research, you want to track down these show notes that he has done.
It's the most phenomenal, I mean, it's unbelievable.
I would also like to point out that the show notes are also produced in OPML format, the open processor markup language format, so it's also structured.
And this is what a lot of...
So it's a data set.
Ooh, Vivek Kundra would love me.
It's a data set that you can actually import, and it's very usable in this way.
In fact, the Pocket No Agenda iPhone app uses it to...
You can actually search the show notes perfectly...
In that app, because the show notes are structured data.
It's not just a bunch of links.
There's headings, and there's a title, and the link is all separate.
So it's a beautiful little thing.
Thank you, John, for that.
But I work very hard on putting those together.
And I think just about everything we talk about is mentioned in the show notes one way or the other.
And that, yeah, you're right.
If you're doing some research, then this is the place.
Yeah, it's a goldmine.
So we were talking about...
What was that Wunder drug again, which is administered via needle?
Vitrol?
Was that it?
Yeah, that one.
By the way, that reminds me.
I forgot to bring this up last show, and I think before you talk about that, I want to bring back...
We did an ad.
The last ad that I played, the last drug ad I played...
Hold on, let me play it again.
I know what you're going to talk about, and I think it's worth playing the ad again.
Hold on, let me bring it up right here.
What was it called?
Probably ran on the...
It wasn't the last show.
No, it definitely wasn't the last show.
It was either the show before or the show before.
Not the show before.
Was it the Hey Big Brother?
Yeah.
No.
Maybe.
Let's take a listen.
Hey, Pete.
Yeah, it's me, big brother.
Put the remote down and listen.
This intervention brought to you by Niospan.
So you cut back on the cheeseburgers and stopped using your exercise bike as a coat rack.
That's it?
You're done?
I don't think so.
You told me your doctor's worried about plaque clogging your arteries.
What do you call it?
Coronary artery disease.
That cholesterol medicine he also wants you on?
Niospan?
I looked it up online.
Hey Pete, you waiting for an engraved invitation?
If you have high cholesterol and coronary artery disease, and diet and exercise are not enough, Niospan, along with diet and a bile acid binding resin, is FDA approved not only to slow down plaque buildup, but to actually help clear some of it away.
Pete, as kids I always looked up to you.
I'm just trying to look after you.
If you cannot afford your medication, call 1-877-NIASPAN.
NIASPAN is not for everyone.
Like people with stomach ulcers, liver, or serious bleeding problems.
Severe liver damage can occur when switching to NIASPAN from immediate release niacin.
Blood tests are needed to check for liver problems.
Tell your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness.
This could be a sign of serious side effects.
This risk can increase with statin use.
Tell your doctor about alcohol use.
If you've ever had gout or are diabetic and experience increases in blood sugar, flushing, a common side effect is warmth, redness, itching, or tingling of the skin.
Ask your doctor about Niospan.
Fight back.
Fight plaque.
Niospan.
So, of course, we laughed about this because of the whole...
Well, yeah, we were paying it for the sociology.
Right.
And we didn't bother looking up the fact that this drug is bogus.
It's a time-release version of just over-the-counter niacin.
What is niacin?
Niacin is a vitamin B. It's vitamin B3, to be exact.
And that can give you a tingling...
It's also known as nicotinic acid, by the way, for you smokers out there, like the word nicotine.
Mm-hmm.
And if you've ever taken it, it's like you can get it at Costco.
If you've ever taken it, many people, I've taken it, and it turned me blood red.
It makes you flush.
You just turn red as a beet.
It's the weirdest stuff.
Why did you take it?
I was just taking vitamin supplements.
Did your brother call you?
Sounds good.
You take the stuff, you turn beet red.
Did your brother call you and say, hey, big brother?
Hey, big brother, you're an idiot.
You're not taking this drug.
You're not listening.
You're going to take the vitamin B. Yeah, so basically they've run out of crap to sell us, and now they make this sound like some Wunder drug, but it's vitamin B. This is over the count.
You get it at Costco.
Amazing.
And they still put the big disclaimer in there, because that's what makes people buy this crap.
There's proof right there.
Good point.
Proof right there.
They could have said, it's a natural product, it's vitamin B, it's great for you.
No, they have to make it sound like it's some medication, and they sell it to you on prescription.
Ask your doctor.
It just proves how lost we are.
Lost, I tell you.
Vivitrol.
This is what we talked about.
Vivitrol is now popping up all over the country as this wonder drug that stops all forms of addiction.
All forms of addiction.
And we've talked about the...
Including gambling.
I'm addicted to masturbation.
So this wonder drug...
Is now being used to reduce jail sentences in Pittsburgh.
Yeah, this is what we didn't get to last week.
So Michael Hickenbottom, Sr., who is midway through a two-and-a-half-month jail sentence for probation violations.
Wow, Lindsay Lohan, nine days.
Mr.
Hickenbottom, two-and-a-half months.
Once released early so he can participate in a drug-based treatment plan aimed at killing his urge to smoke marijuana.
I got an urge!
I got a fever!
Oh no, the only thing that can cure my fever is more cowbell!
This is nuts.
So, here it is.
The medication is administered once every 28 days.
As part of an outpatient treatment plan, although District Attorney Jack Haneckes Jr.
told Leskinen he prefers Hickenbottom's release to be contingent upon entry into an inpatient drug treatment center, Papa said Vivitrol-based therapy works best as an outpatient setting.
I don't know how that works.
But essentially, yeah, this quote from the guy, I don't want to do grass anymore.
I don't want to use alcohol anymore.
It's amazing.
It's a wonder drug.
And this will be called a vaccine, by the way.
You watch.
People will mistakenly call it a vaccine.
And I don't know what it does, but it messes with your brain.
It doesn't sound good.
I mean, it's messing with your brain.
So let me ask you a question, a personal question.
Sure.
Now you used to smoke marijuana, I believe.
I would say from wake and bake to sleepy time.
Ten years in a row.
And you had an urge, the urge to smoke it, right?
Yeah, I'd wake up, I'd go...
Yeah, you'd smoke it all the time.
So what drug, what treatment, what therapy, what support group, what was it that you did, personally, to stop smoking marijuana?
I divorced my wife.
Okay, well that's not an idea.
I'm just kidding.
I just stopped.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on a second.
You're not hearing me through.
You used to smoke marijuana.
Yes.
You were kind of addicted to it.
You had to smoke.
Kind of.
Kind of.
I was smoking in the stairwell.
I just asked you the question.
What support group, what drug did you take, what shots did you get, what did you do to stop marijuana?
Nothing.
I just stopped.
No, no, no.
See, you don't understand.
I stopped sticking it in my face.
It's not possible.
What do you mean?
I foresee all these news reports.
You were addicted.
You had to.
You've been helped by some group or drug.
Oh, yes.
You can't just stop.
You can't just stop and have it be over with.
No, it's impossible.
I know.
I am living proof.
You and a million other people.
Yeah, it just stopped.
It's just like, okay, I'm not going to do this anymore, and I just stopped.
And I have not touched it since.
And I don't miss it.
It's actually, it's not addictive.
It's not addictive.
I am addicted to nicotine.
However, if I wanted to, I could just stop.
You probably could.
I know I could because the physical addiction is really like 48 hours or something.
I get on a long-haul flight and fly across the world and I'm not one of those people going, I wish I could smoke.
I just turn my brain off and I forget about it.
Of course, I'm stupid.
When I arrive, I'm like, damn, I'd like a smoke right now.
And then I light one up.
But I could.
I mean, clearly, I'm not, like, freaking out on the plane.
I just stop.
You know, I can stop in a restaurant.
We have fine meals.
Do you see me freaking out?
Like, okay, we got to go.
We got to go.
We got to go.
I got to go outside.
I got to smoke.
Do you ever see me doing that?
No.
By the way, I'd like to thank everyone who sent in notices that they went to visit the wonderful restaurant Fringal in San Francisco after we discussed it.
Funny enough, people had a great meal there, and when they said John and Adam sent us, the maitre d' went, who?
Of course.
Like, what?
I told them, they're a French place.
They think everybody's the Gestapo.
They're like, we don't know them.
We don't know them.
We don't know them.
We have no idea who is this Jean.
All I know is we can walk into the place and get a table.
Who is this Jean Charles?
We do not know of him.
Ah, go away.
You want to Bordeaux?
So, um...
Anyway, Vivatrol is, uh, it's making a march and you can watch this stuff.
And how about this, John?
How about this for a small prediction?
Lindsay Lohan on Vivitrol.
Ooh!
Watch it come.
You can watch it happen.
You can watch it happen because it's part of the whole scam.
Yeah, you were leading up to that.
You got me.
Yep, I did.
No, it's Lindsay Lohan will be on Vivitrol.
It'll be outpatient basis.
It'll be every 28 days.
Wait, and she's going to get a multi-million dollar contract to plug it.
Ooh.
Let's up the ante on this prediction.
And she'll do Vogue with her scram bracelet on.
It's going to be the new hot fashion, man, for the fall.
It's the scram bracelet.
The whole thing is pathetic.
It's pathetic because it's a total scam.
It's a scam.
Now, this stuff may work.
I'm not saying it doesn't, but come on.
This is messing with your brain.
This is a hallucinogenic.
This is doing something with your neurotransmitters and receptors and...
It can't be good.
That's what we're trying to say.
It doesn't sound like it.
You can smoke dope for 10 years or 20 years or however long it was and just stop cold turkey without thinking twice about it?
Then anybody can.
Then anybody can do it.
What are you trying to say about me?
If I can do it, anybody can do it.
It's like New York.
They can make it anywhere.
Good news from Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
And I did not know this was going on.
However, British Columbia, the British Columbian government, has suspended a program that attempts to test the sexual responses of young male sex offenders.
And have you heard about this program that they had up there?
Here's how the program worked.
It was...
Oh my God.
I find it even hard to think about this.
The test required offenders as young as 13 years old.
I mean, what did you do when you're 13 to become a sex offender?
I don't know if that's possible.
To look at images of nude and semi-nude children and listen to audio descriptions of forced sex while their physical responses were measured with sensors attached to their genitals.
My understanding...
Is Colorado does this to this day.
Really?
Yeah.
What century are we in?
Sounds like the second.
But I remember this coming up in the conversation when Kobe Bryant was arrested for rape, or accused of rape, alleged raping somebody in a hotel.
And he had all the best attorneys in the world.
And this came up in the conversation saying that if he was found guilty, they would do this to him.
To see what a sex offender he was.
Wait a minute, so what they're saying is, if you look at a picture of a nude child and you get an erection, then you're a sex offender.
Apparently, yeah.
This is crazy!
This is like, if the witch floats, she's not a witch.
Right, exactly.
This is creepy.
This is just absolutely creepy.
Oh my god!
Listen to audio descriptions of forced sex while their physical responses are measured by attaching sensors to their genitals.
Well, they've stopped doing this.
Oh, good idea!
Yeah, I think they're still doing Colorado.
Really?
Some Coloradans.
We don't have any Colorado contributors that I know of.
No kidding.
They've all got sensors attached to their genitals.
They're in jail.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
Well, I'm glad that they've stopped it, but I was like, whoa.
Shantix, by the way, which we've been harping on for quite a while, a new report comes out.
By the way, Washington State apparently still does this, according to Eric.
And they even have a sex offender island prison.
Excellent.
Yeah, they want to do one of those off the coast of California.
We talked about that.
Just put them all in Catalina.
So here's a report.
The clear temporal relationship, lack of prior history of this behavior, and unusual nature of these events strengthens the accumulating scientific evidence that...
Vareniclin, which is the medical name for Shantix, is associated with thoughts and acts of aggression and violence.
We recommend that physicians and pharmacists ensure that all patients are informed of possible psychiatric symptoms of Shantix, including violent and aggressive thoughts.
Again, more proof that Mel Gibson is on this stuff and needs help.
Yeah, well, we haven't obviously got the right degrees of separation.
Someone is going to be listening to this show.
Somebody.
And, of course, they're going to take credit for it on Extra.
Oh, yeah.
You know, a doctor finds out that Mel Gibson's on Shantix.
Well, actually, they would suppress that information since Shantix is such a big advertiser.
Again, proving our point of theory that we have to be user-supported.
So that'll never get into the public domain.
Poor Mel.
Meanwhile, this woman is just pushing his buttons and the guy is freaking out on the Shantix crap.
Maybe he'll kill her.
And then get off.
If he takes Vivitrol.
So talking about these ads, I do have one ad I want to play.
Oh.
But again, for the sociologist, I don't care about the product that this is for proactive.
It's because when I heard this guy's voice, this is one of the most amazing, the voiceover guys, what we're listening to here.
Very nice.
Do I get to emulate him?
That's what I want to know.
I don't think this is one you can do.
Oh my goodness.
This is a happy voice.
And anyone who saw the movie Office Space and remembers that one restaurant where that happy guy with all the buttons.
Well, your pride buttons.
You got your pride buttons on.
That guy.
He may even be his voice.
But this guy has the happiest voice.
And it's a youthful happiness talking to women.
And I found the sociology of this ad to be fascinating.
And this voice is just like, wow!
But anyway, let's play it.
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I went out and bought a little spaghetti strap dress and it was a really amazing feeling.
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That's 1-800-794-8295.
I can do that, guys.
He's not all that good.
I'm telling you, I think he's good, by the way.
It's just in time for summer.
Don't you want to feel really good about your complexion?
All you have to do is listen to the No Agenda Show.
We'll even throw in a free pride coin just for $33.33.
It's going on right now, all summer long, right here at NoAgendaShow.com.
You know, it's not bad.
It's pretty good, right?
I could get some voiceover work.
That's close enough to get a check mark.
I busted a vein.
Wait.
You busted your voice?
I busted a vein on my head.
It really hurt.
It's probably hard to do that voice.
Just in time, John!
It's really amazing!
We'll be flaring all summer long!
That's good.
Go ahead and donate now to the No Agenda Show at Dvorak.org slash NA and we'll even throw in, well, nothing because we need your money.
Just send us your cash.
So how do they get all these different girls who pronounce the word feel as fill?
I feel.
I feel phenomenal.
I feel.
I feel phenomenal.
It feels great.
Oh, this proactive stuff is very successfully marketed.
It's for acne.
Yeah.
And, oh man, girls swear by it.
I've seen girls come into my daughter.
This is a while ago.
She doesn't have the problem anymore, but with, you know, teenage acne.
And the girls be like, oh, do you have any proactive?
I need to use some proactive.
I think the stuff is like it hooks you or something.
Yeah.
It could be.
Somebody came up with a substitute for a chapstick.
I remember this years and years ago.
Yeah, chapstick.
Yeah, exactly.
It was a different brand, and if you started using it, you'd have permanent chap lips, but you kept having to put more of this crap on.
Here's one.
Noagendashow.com!
You'll pay for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge!
Chat room is feeding me lines.
This is great.
Maybe we should do a promotion with this voice of yours.
It seems to work.
It seems to work.
Okay, John.
Here's one for you.
And actually, oh boy, I have one that fits under the heading of...
All aboard!
Trains good, planes bad!
Woohoo!
Yay!
Trains good, planes bad!
This is new in the contract of carriage from actually my favorite airline, Southwest Airlines.
I love them dearly because they don't give a crap about you and they let you know it.
And I like that.
They give you value for value without a doubt.
So, in these contracts of carriage, they always have acts of God, right?
And if there's an act of God, then all bets are off.
And this is in many, many contracts.
Jeez, I think even in investment contracts.
It's all over the place.
Yeah, we have it in our speaker's agreement.
We do.
Well, it's good because you can add something to it.
So, what would you think constitutes an act of God?
I would say a flood, a lightning strike, an earthquake, you know, that sort of thing.
Well, on page 11 of their contract of carriage, they have now changed this, and they've added mechanical difficulties to the act of God.
Oh, really?
Yeah!
God did it!
Crap!
God broke the plane!
What a crock!
What a crock!
That is bad.
In such cases, the contract says, passengers are entitled to refunds only on the used portion of their ticket.
Southwest has no obligation to provide compensation for any type of special incidental or consequential damages due to such an act of God.
Let's just mechanical difficulties.
Act of God.
I love it.
I have another awesome Trains Good Plates Bad segment.
Wow, this one blew me away.
The fix is in.
And for those of you who are new to the program, we may have some new listeners, we believe that there is a huge, well, we have pretty much evidence that the largest PR firm in the world, or one of the most successful ones at it, Hill& Knowlton, is now in charge of the United States High Speed Rail Project and are pushing this thing to no end, and not just pushing trains, but are slamming planes.
Michelle Obama, our First Lady, her communications chief, Camille Johnston, has left the service of our First Lady for a private sector job.
This would be vice president at Siemens.
The guy's trying to do the high-speed rail.
The guy's trying to do...
They make the high-speed trains.
They make crap, though.
They do not make the good trains.
This is not going to work out for us.
But we've got the guy, the ex...
Bigwig from Siemens now took the job for the California high-speed rail project, and he took a huge pay cut, of course.
Sure he did.
Yeah, he's got options and everything on the back end because they're going to buy Siemens trains.
We've got the first lady's confidant, communications chief, so she's just part of the PR scam going to Siemens.
It's just, it's amazing.
Oh, and there was a vote we missed.
House Resolution 1366 passed July 27th, recognizing and honoring the freight railroad industry.
And its employees.
Yeah, we've got it.
Warren Buffett invests in Burlington Northern.
The next thing you know, all this stuff starts to happen.
And then we have Ray LaHood.
He's going to get a bunch of free track, is what it amounts to.
In the olden days, the railroad had to put their track down.
And it cost a lot of money.
So they're going to put a high-speed rail track all over the place.
Nobody's going to go on the high-speed train.
And the freight guys are going to say, well, can we use these tracks?
Yeah, you might as well.
We're not using it.
And boom.
You get a nice, free, new track.
So Ray LaHood, which just sounds so gangster-ish, who was our transportation secretary, was over there in Madison.
Actually, Milwaukee, I'm sorry.
And he says, well, you know, we've...
We've got a $2.5 billion hole in the state, but that's no problem because we're going to lay down some track.
An additional $2.5 billion will be awarded for high-speed rail projects in Milwaukee.
This is happening, said Governor Jim Doyle.
But here's the quote.
LaHood says, we need to get infrastructure in place.
Then we'll have the discussion about how operating part of it will work.
That's great.
So first, spend the money, put it down, then we'll figure out how to make it work.
Okay.
Great.
Yeah, just like pass the bill to read later.
Yeah.
Great.
I don't know how people sign contracts like that.
I've had people introduce contracts.
Don't worry about it.
We'll fix it afterwards.
Just get it done.
No, no, no.
Here's it.
We'll make you whole later.
That's the quote.
Don't worry, man.
We'll make you whole later and we'll fix it all up.
So, yeah, so I think if I look at the overview today, and you can find it in the Trains, Good, Planes, Bad, Woo-Woo heading of the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com, I think you'll see that trains are ahead 8-1 this week.
8-1, 8-1.
Here's something we didn't talk about.
I'm sure it came up maybe on one of the other shows you do.
This DNS... That like seven people have some kind of secret card thingy and they can reboot the root domain servers?
Yeah.
Have you heard about this?
Well, I know about it.
Well, one of these guys was on the BBC. And I wanted to share this little piece of audio with you because I just want to understand kind of what's going on.
And the way the BBC talks about it, this is, you know, it's really like, ooh, he holds one of the keys.
It's all top secret.
And ooh, it's the catastrophe key for the Internet.
And a British computer expert has been entrusted, apparently, with part of this.
You personally have become part of...
I'll use the quote which will embarrass you.
An elite international circle of trust charged with restarting the internet in the event of a global catastrophe.
I am the trusted community representative for Europe for holding a recovery key share.
Now what that really means in English is 60 people were nominated to be holders of this recovery key from the European region.
I am delighted to be chosen as the holder of the recovery key.
And in the event of a fundamental catastrophic failure of the DNSSEC system, what I hold is a very small fragment of a key, a digital key, that will restart the process of signing the root zone.
It is so unlikely I'll ever be called upon, but at least the process has been thought through for actually a full disaster recovery mechanism being in place.
Could you describe the digital key for me?
Yes, it looks like a credit card.
If you imagine the chip that's on your credit card, that's actually a storage device, and what I hold on that storage device is a very small fragment of the encryption key that is protecting the master root key.
And in the event of something catastrophic happening, what do you do?
What do you and the digital key do?
I have to take my key over to a secure location in the US along with four of my colleagues.
There needs to be a total of five of us present.
The secure location has actually the hardware and also some additional keys which would actually restart the process of generating the DNSSEC root key.
We essentially switch it back on.
Essentially switch back on the DNSSEC service that would have been compromised.
It would work, but it would be possible for the bad guy to pretend and masquerade as a legitimate commercial operation.
Why do there need to be five of you?
Basically, no one party is in a position to hold the master key, and that is a very sensible approach.
If the key were exclusively held in one geographical region, it could lead to fragmentation of the Internet, as we know.
We don't want to see balkanization of the global, universal Internet.
I know you won't tell me, but I'm guessing there's mind-boggling security before you get to this...
I'm guessing it's in a desert, and you go down in a lift, is that right?
You don't go in a lift, but it is in a desert, and it is exceptionally secure, be assured.
I'm also seeing a man in purple with a big hat, but it's not that far from it, though.
What the hell does that mean?
A man in purple with a big hat?
I don't know what the fuck that means.
So, what's up with this?
I mean, it seems to me like this is more a key to bring down the internet.
No, no, it's a reboot system.
All they're talking about is rebooting the DNS system if they have to, if something crazy happens.
And they need to do it.
This doesn't bother me in the least.
And the fact of the matter is the internet's not going to completely go down anyway because there's these alternative DNS systems.
I was just going to say, don't we need noagendadns.org or something like that?
Don't we need to have our own DNS system?
We don't need, no.
Of all the things in the world we need, that's not one of them.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
I want a DNS service.
You've got to keep tagging the real one.
It's just too much work.
Anyway, the point is, no, this is not a big deal.
The big deal seems to me that the guy has to travel there.
Yeah.
There should be some remote way of doing this, but whether it's in the desert or not, really, I wonder.
I mean, I remember I visited May East once, and the guy said, you're going to die when you see this place.
Oh, it's a bunch of, it's crap.
It's a bunch of, everything's strung up.
Oh, and it's in Virginia, in one of those spook towns, and it's in a basement of some garage, and you drive in, and the main pipe that goes to Europe is actually across the drive-in thing, so if you're like a truck that's too high for the ceiling, you bust it.
Yeah, right.
I think they've changed a lot of this since I visited.
I did a photo essay and published it somewhere showing the inside of this thing.
It's a locked room.
If you have a key, you can get in and throw a grenade in there and finish off the European connections.
But anyway, I think they may have secured it better.
Since you were there, probably.
I remember when May East flooded.
Do you remember that?
Why is this guy here?
John, do you remember when May East flooded?
Do you remember that?
Maybe it would have flooded because it's in a basement.
No, it flooded once, I remember, and it took out the whole eastern seaboard.
Okay, well, that was probably why.
I think they moved it.
Oh, yeah, but I remember when it flooded, and I was like, holy crap, and all these servers just fried, and it took them like three days to bring everything back online just because they had to bring in, you know, get a duplicate location, and at the time they were dealing with, what was it, MFS, Metropolitan Fiber Systems, and it was hard back in the day to get all that stuff up and running again.
But anyway, yeah, no, this doesn't bother me in the least, and I think the guy over-dramatized the, you know, if the guy would have used the word, hey, we got to read, there was a bunch of computers that make up the DNS system, and if the thing goes down, we have to just reboot them all.
You know, we need some way of doing that, and this is what the process is, and it would probably take down the internet for a couple days if it was that bad, and the guy, of course, would have to fly over.
Of course, most people by this time are stupid enough to switch to Google DNS services.
Exactly.
This may trouble you then.
I've got a report here.
It appears that many very important drugs are in severe shortfall around the country.
And these are drugs that are used in emergency rooms such as epinephrine, lidocaine, other drugs for heart stoppage, shock treatment.
Epinephrine, yeah.
Epinephrine.
And Tennessee, Pennsylvania, California have already seen the incorporation of the so-called alternate protocol because these drugs are in such short supply.
And I was wondering if you'd heard about this.
Obamacare.
Is this Obamacare?
Is this what it's done to us?
I don't know.
It's weird, though.
Just wondering.
Let's not get a heart attack this week.
It doesn't sound like a good time.
No, I'm going to hold off on that.
So I've got a couple of clips I want to get in before the show is over.
Okay.
So I was watching, again, Democracy Now!, and I love the way they present their news.
It's just skewed.
Really?
You don't say.
Yeah.
It's skewed to slam the Americans.
So the woman there, that woman that tries to be Walter Cronkite...
She announces that the cluster bomb treaty, that I don't even know where this treaty comes from, the Americans refused to sign it.
And so she's talked about the treaty, and she says that Americans refused to sign the cluster bomb treaty.
I don't even know if it's a UN treaty.
I don't know what.
So she mentions three countries that refused to sign it as though these are the bad guys.
But luckily, she kind of mentions the other countries that wouldn't sign it either.
And it's like, who else is there?
Play this clip.
An international treaty banning cluster bombs goes into effect Sunday, but the United States as well as Russia and Israel have refused to sign the treaty.
All three countries have used cluster bombs in recent years.
Other key countries who've refused to sign the treaty include Brazil, China, India, Pakistan, and South Korea.
What kind of treaty is that?
It's nobody signing this thing.
She had to get the jab on Israel.
Israel, all right.
Yeah, that's good.
Who cares?
There's enough stuff to kill everybody.
I need to talk about Gitmo Nation down under for a moment.
First of all, Kevin Rudd, the former Prime Minister, who quit and is mired in all kinds of scandals.
He had to go to the hospital for gallbladder surgery.
Doesn't sound too good.
Yeah, I think they're giving him a little message there.
But this is a report...
That folks in Gitmo Nation East, the mother country in this case for Down Under, will want to pay attention to because really big, and also Gitmo Nation Lowlands, I should say, the Oyster card, of course, is what everyone needs to use almost exclusively if you really want to use the tube services, the subway or any type of public transportation.
This card, the same technology, has also been deployed in the Lowlands, Gitmo Nation version and in Gitmo Nation Down Under.
However, exactly what we thought could happen with this RFID technology is now indeed taking place.
I believe the system there is called the MYKI, M-Y-K-I. I'm not sure about the pronunciation, but I have a little clip here from theage.com.au.
And this is their little jingle, what they started off with.
I have heard a story from Brisbane that this lady was on the bus at the time of time as a murderer.
She didn't know there was a murderer there.
She was contacted because the police were able to track where she was because she had a go-card.
It's a smart card system just like the Metlink system.
And were able to use her information to try and track this murderer.
Each of the systems that have been put in around the world, and now they're very common, have had to go through privacy concerns because it is possible if we know who the person is To track them, and I think that's not appropriate.
And in fact, that's very much the way that it's organized.
It is not appropriate or allowed under the law, when these things are set up, to track people.
However, there will be extreme cases, such as this murder investigation, where I think it's okay to, if you circumvent the protections, but it should only be done on a very specialist case and with a very altruistic and positive and reasonable reason to do so.
This is the transportation secretary, by the way, who's talking.
It's an example of where the technology has some positive sides.
Very much it's true that there are privacy concerns, and I think, you know, we need to actually make sure we cover those things off.
And I think people that are using Mikey should be aware that there can be privacy concerns.
But I wouldn't be overly concerned about Big Brother.
I think that this example in Brisbane is an example where there were very positive reasons why the police wanted to do this.
And I think it's a credit to the technology that we can try and, you know, use it for these purposes.
But I think it should only ever be done as long as it's for, you know, positive reasons.
The children.
The children.
Only if it's for the children.
So there you go.
They're just using it to track you there down under.
Great.
Great, great, great.
Perfect.
And this, of course, is happening everywhere.
Put your cards in a wallet that have either a little Faraday cage built into the wallet.
A lot of guys make this.
I'll get you the name of a wallet maker in Southern California that makes these wallets.
And it protects you from such snooping.
Or if you just want to do simple, get some lead foil.
And wrap the card in lead foil.
Around your head.
And wrap it around your head.
You, baby.
Put the lead foil around the card and nothing's coming out or going into that card, I can assure you.
I have to get some clips from...
The C-SPAN video library is weird.
What I get more and more often now is this clip is not available.
I've gotten a lot of that recently.
I'm not liking that.
I'm not liking that.
And then I clicked on it.
It says, if it's unavailable, send us a note.
I sent them a note.
I never heard back.
No, you're not going to hear back from them.
However...
United States Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson rebuffed recent efforts to prevent her agency from regulating greenhouse gas emissions.
You know, the president has essentially given the EPA carte blanche to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, which is what is coming out of my piehole right now.
Stating that the evidence proving climate change is a problem remains, quote, robust, voluminous, and compelling.
In other words, the science is in!
She rejected ten petitions filed by the Attorneys General of Texas, Virginia, and the Ohio Coal Association and other groups that urged her to nullify the endangerment finding.
And she said, no way, shut up, slave.
Shut up.
These petitions, based as they are on selectively edited out-of-context data and manufactured controversy, or controversy, provide no evidence to undermine our determination.
Shut up, slave.
The body of science.
The body...
Ooh, the body of science!
From the IPCC. And the National Academy of Sciences supports the agency's findings that greenhouse gases threaten human health.
And the endangerment finding has been decades in the making.
EPA has determined that the petitioner's arguments and evidence are inadequate, generally unscientific, and do not show that the underlying science supporting the endangerment finding is flawed.
It is unbelievable.
Well, you might as well go back to my clip, which is Tom Hartman discussing global warming, and how...
This is the most weird, non-sequitur thing I've ever heard him say.
The whole thing makes no sense, but he dramatizes the news with this...
Wait, there's more segment.
...people in Japan's worst heat wave has killed 66 people.
But wait, there's more.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has smacked down petitions by conspiracy theorists who argue that global warming is a hoax.
No, it's not.
But wait, there's still more.
Republicans, with the potential support of a few Democrats' conservadems, depending on oil money, are geared up to block oil disaster reform bills in the House and Senate.
But wait, there's even more!
Public campaign reports that House Minority Whip Garrett Cantor took in almost a half a million dollars in the second quarter from the financial industry, including Goldman Sachs and Bank of America, This is the number two Republican in the House of Representatives, one of the top ten recipients for oil and gas contributions.
Without campaign finance reform that works, expect more floods, fires, oil spill disasters, and Republican Great Depression.
What?
How do you go from global warming to Republican Great Depression?
Meanwhile, it's cold here in Los Angeles.
It's freezing today.
Of course, July in San Francisco is a cold month usually, in a classic sense.
Sometimes it's not, but once in a while it's perfect.
This month has been the same.
Fog, fog, fog.
Sun, fog, fog, fog.
But in the olden days, as I recall it as a kid, you'd have the fog break up around 1130 to 1, and then it would be nice and warm, and then it would maybe roll in at night.
But now it's staying foggy until about 2, which is very annoying.
And it's August!
Well, actually, tomorrow's August.
It's as good as August.
Let me ask you a question.
Rolling Stone magazine has had a number of phenomenal exposés, exposing Goldman Sachs in perfect timing, of course, for the put options, as well as helping General McChrystal get out of the horrible situation he was in and installing the shill Petraeus.
How come they don't go after Wyclef Jean?
He's a musician.
And they have this puff piece on him, and I don't even think there's a mention of the controversy surrounding his...
Actually, there is.
I'm sorry.
Surrounding his non-profit charity.
The very last line of this puff piece...
While Jean publicly admitted that his foundation has made some operational mistakes in the past, he denied that he profited in any way off of his charity.
So this is the guy who has now filed all the paperwork.
By the way, his dad is ambassador to Haiti.
Or, yeah, in the United States.
And friends with Clinton.
Yeah, he's very good friends with Clinton.
In 2006, Wyclef Jean...
Released a song which goes something like this.
Listen to the lyrics of the first verse here of this song, which is titled, If I Was President.
Signs everywhere saying Wyclef for president.
There you go.
That's what's going to happen.
So he'll become president of Haiti, and they'll kill him, and then they'll put some other puppet in.
This is just the New World Order laughing at us again.
They set this crap up in 2006, like...
Watch this, man.
This will be great.
I'm going to be president of Haiti, dude, and then they'll shoot me, but of course it won't really shoot me.
I'll be living in Paraguay.
That's where I'll be hanging out.
This is a total fix.
I don't like this guy.
I don't like it.
I don't like him either.
I think there's something fishy about him.
Duh!
If you're friends with Clinton, he's probably up there in the no-fly zone right now at the wedding.
You watch.
Wyclef Jean performed at the wedding for Chelsea Clinton.
Yeah, it could be.
It wouldn't surprise me.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
And then this was very funny.
Mother Jones, who I think is a reasonably respected journalistic outfit, they seem to still pay journalists to go and do some work.
Have done some investigation on the Better Business Bureau.
And the reason they did this is because of this whole, and I didn't want to get into that, this ABC News story about Glenn Beck shilling for a Goldline International fleecing its customers.
This is a buy gold coin scam.
And of course, Goldline has an A-plus rating from the Better Business Bureau in Los Angeles.
And it was my understanding always that the Better Business Bureau was an organization you could call up, and now of course they have a website, and you can check them out and see if a business is on the up and up.
Isn't that kind of what it's used for?
Yeah, kind of.
Isn't it supposed to be good?
Yeah, I haven't heard any complaints.
So the way it works is you pay $425 to become an accredited business with the Better Business Bureau.
So Mother Jones registered Hamas with the Better Business Bureau as an accredited business.
And the Better Business Bureau's Hamas listing states the business is devoted to, quote, providing educational services to troubled youth and has received an excellent rating from the Better Business Bureau.
Hamas.
Yeah.
So I guess that does it for the BBB. Well, it looks like they're not really doing their job anymore.
They're just collecting license fees.
Right.
Wow.
You know, this is the problem with this country.
Hit me, baby.
It's basically people are getting scammed out of money.
There's phony baloney certifications out there.
It's just take the money, set yourself up as a certifying agency, and the next thing you know, you start selling certificates.
Essentially, it's ridiculous.
Does Underwriters Lab ever check anything anymore?
Underwriters Lab is a huge commercial business.
And how about, you know, the car and drivers, car of the year?
Was it a coincidence that they seemed to rotate through the brands?
Hmm.
Hmm.
So is there any...
How about Consumer Reports?
I think Consumer Reports does what they do.
I mean, I think they do look over these things.
But, you know, when I was at PC Magazine in its heyday, and we would really look at stuff carefully, and Consumer Reports would do something on computers or computer printers, it was always crap.
It wasn't very good.
Hmm.
Right.
What they were saying was they recommended this and that and the other thing.
And by the way, they did it with cameras, too.
I think the Mamiya SLR in the olden days was always their favorite camera when everyone was buying Nikon and Canon for a reason.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't think they go out of their way.
I don't think they're bought off by any means.
I think they're honest, but I don't think that they're that great.
So the only people you can trust, and that's just marginally, is us.
Just the two of us.
We can make it if we try.
That's right!
We are great!
Go ahead and try us all summer long!
You know, it's like you can't find anything out on Google.
I mean, things like Yelp, you have to use Yelp now to find out, you know, reviews of restaurants because you can't trust the reviewers.
And so, you know, the professional reviewers are all out to lunch, literally.
But you can deconstruct things using these new mechanisms, but it's kind of painful.
I mean, Yelp takes some getting used to how to use it properly, and you can still get, you know...
Take the wrong turn.
I mean, it's hopeless.
The consumerist, the consumer movement, consumerism, it's screwed over.
Well, thank goodness there's a new hot Russian spy to look at.
Ooh.
Yeah, we got a new one.
Because the box office for...
Angelina's movie wasn't doing too well.
Salt, yeah.
I thought they pumped it enough, but apparently not.
No, no, no.
It wasn't working well enough.
So they came out with a 24-year-old Anna Fermanova.
She's hot, by the way.
She has a belly button ring, wears bikinis on her Facebook pictures.
Yes, she is America's new...
She has fat lips like...
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
She has a...
Well, she's hot.
For a Russian.
What's her name?
Anna Fermanova.
And she's currently under house arrest in Texas awaiting trial for knowingly and intentionally exporting contraband weapons, grade, weapons grade night vision scopes to Moscow.
According to her booking papers, she is 5'6", has a belly ring.
She likes slutty Halloween costumes and pointing at the camera when she's drunk.
And Gawker actually has a lot of pictures of her.
She's hot, man.
She's great.
This is bogus.
No, it's the pump up the box office for Salt.
Yeah, obviously.
She's not that hot.
Even Variety wrote a review of Salt and said, you know, if it weren't for the Russian spy ring, I would have walked out of the movie, but it was kind of compelling because they're saying it.
They're just saying it right out and out.
Anna Ferminova.
Come here, you hot Russian minx.
I'm a former Soviet spy.
Come here, comrade.
Let me lick your belly button ring.
And then the assault on salt has finally made it up north to Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
Of course, they couldn't use our Institute of Sciences report, which is funded by the government.
It's not really an independent organization.
They've got a beautiful building, though, that's for sure.
So they have their own panel of experts.
The group, chaired by Health Canada, released its long-awaited report Thursday in Ottawa.
Manufacturers are being encouraged to lower the sodium content of their products over time to meet voluntary salt targets.
The initial aim is to reduce people's average daily sodium intake by about a third to 2,300 milligrams.
That's like a teaspoon.
For adults, 1,500 mg of sodium per day is considered adequate.
The group's goal of 20-100 mg is considered the most sodium people should consume each day.
So it's coincidental that every country just has all these...
Yeah, all at once, all at the same time.
All happening at the same time, yeah.
Wouldn't have anything to do with the Codex Alimentarius, would it?
Recommendations include revamping Canada's food labeling system to make sodium levels clearer to consumers, forcing restaurants to list the amount of sodium in each dish.
What the hell is that?
That's bull crap.
So you're like, oh, I put three grains on this one.
Making companies use the same serving sizes in the nutrition facts table on the product labels.
Updating Canada's food guide with more information about sodium and calories.
Putting more government money into research.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
There's the big one.
And monitoring sodium intake and releasing a report each year looking at whether people are actually cutting salt out of their diets.
Because if not, we're going to come and get you, you slaves.
Maybe they can give us Vivitrol to cut back on our salt addiction.
It could be.
Yeah, that could really help.
Meanwhile, I'm still sprinkling some salt on my espressos and loving it.
I'm hyped up.
Yeah, I'm going to have to try that.
It's really, but it has to be sea salt.
Just grind a little, not too much, otherwise you're like, I'm drinking salt.
Just a little salt.
This, by the way, seems to be an old-fashioned tradition.
I get plenty of emails from people saying, yeah, my grandmother, when she would do drip coffee, she'd always throw some salt into the grinds before dripping the coffee through the filter.
And so, of course, the system I have won't do that, but just a quick grind on top, it does give it a nice little kick.
It's a little, I don't know, it's interesting.
It adds some dimension to the flavor profile.
Ooh, you know, the way you say that.
And then finally, before we get out of here, and this is for the United States of Europe, of course, we're so pristine and we don't want genetically modified anything, although it's now been approved, of course, thanks to the Lisbon Treaty.
Report that cloned meat and dairy products are already lining the supermarket shelves in Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe.
Wait, hold on a second.
I was under the impression some years back that the United States of Europe was against GMO anything and they weren't going to tolerate the crap that we make over here and all the rest of it.
What happened?
Well, they introduced the Lisbon Treaty, which the Dutch and the French voted down as the European Constitution.
They then came back and they pulled it all apart and made it into this beautiful little document, which no one got to vote on except for the Irish.
The British were promised to vote.
They weren't allowed to vote.
The Dutch should not get to vote.
You're describing a coup d'etat.
No.
Monsanto d'Etat.
Monsanto d'Etat.
One British farmer said he was routinely selling milk produced by the offspring of a cloned cow, and the Swiss government admitted that several hundred of its cattle were second or third generation cloned descendants.
Wow, that explains the two-headed ones.
That explains the two-headed people in European Parliament.
That's what it explains.
So, um...
So I didn't know this at all, that they were drinking cloned milk.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Let's just drink water.
Right.
Yeah!
You know, I like water.
The best part of waking up is fluoride in my cup.
That's right.
A nice little cup of fluoridated water.
And by the way, have some aspartame chewing gum.
Freshens your breath.
All summer long, it'll make you feel really good.
You don't get addicted to it at all.
It's great!
All the kids are doing it!
You were over the top on that one.
Yeah.
Well, I already busted my gut doing it the first time.
That was the best.
So we're going to try and do a show on Thursday.
It will be coming to you from Gitmo Nation, Dutch Antilles.
Hopefully the bandwidth will be sufficient.
Should we not be able to pull it off, then we'll try doing it without the stream.
If we can't do it without the stream, then we do have an evergreen show.
Yeah, the best of the early days.
But I'm fully expecting to have a show, I just want to say.
There will be something played.
There will be something.
We will not disappoint.
And then, of course, next Sunday, we'll have a show at our regularly scheduled time.
So, coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California, I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, and the sun actually is coming out a little earlier today, so it might be hot.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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