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	Could you please stop referring to assholes as my friend?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 17th, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 209.
	This is no agenda.
	Now with full-time oil spill cam on your screen and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, it's a nice day again.
	There's no oil here.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Well, in the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to everybody.
	Coast to coast and ships at sea.
	That's my line.
	But yes, hello ships at sea.
	And in the morning to all you human resources, I hope you're all...
	We actually have a listener who's on a ship at sea.
	Yes, I know.
	That's why you stole my line.
	Of course.
	Yes.
	I hope all the human resources are all nicely charged.
	We need you fit and healthy for another day in Gitmo Nation.
	And we have stiff competition today, John.
	What?
	Well, everyone is broadcasting the investigation of CEO Tony Hayward.
	Live, live, live.
	Have you noticed this guy just looks like that British actor who always plays Tony Blair?
	He looks like the doofus British actor.
	Yeah.
	There's a guy who plays a doofus British guy on the 30 Rock show who he reminds me of.
	It's like they called up Central Casting and said, hey man, we need something for this show that we've put on.
	No, we need two people.
	We need a doofus guy.
	We need a Swede.
	Send your headshots over.
	We'll test it.
	We need a Swede who says little people and small people.
	It's really unbelievable.
	What a great show.
	And everywhere.
	Every single channel in the United States.
	I can't wait until the new HBO series starts.
	I think it all starts this weekend.
	They start with Entourage and that new lesbian show.
	And you know they're going to have a BP oil spill cam in the lower right-hand corner of everything.
	It's just everywhere.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	It's like, could it be any more obvious?
	They're trying to communicate a message to you.
	I think this is all part of the Get Obama campaign.
	No, I think the Get Obama is part of the oil cabal campaign, but I'm sure we'll get into that.
	And you know, if this thing keeps going on, which apparently now it looks like it's going to be years.
	Yeah, forever.
	Forever.
	Well, no, if they drill, they think if they drill at least two of these other wells nearby, they can suck enough oil fast enough to stop the thing.
	The hole will be there forever.
	But that's the whole joke, John.
	That's the whole joke.
	You see, when they drilled into the volcano, because that's really what it is, and I have some evidence of that.
	Save it for the second half of the show when you go crazy.
	I don't know if we can save it that long.
	It's too good.
	Volcano.
	It comes out hot boiling!
	Well, I'm going to ask you some chemical questions, and of course, as a former chemical environmental testing engineer specialist, you might be able to answer some of these questions.
	I probably can't.
	No, I don't know.
	I don't have my Merck.
	Somebody sent me a Merck index, and I probably lost it in the house.
	You don't need it.
	It's really simple.
	Here, well, you can start Googling...
	Hold on.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	I should do what you do.
	Google.
	Yeah, that's all I do.
	During the show, so you look smart.
	Hydrogen sulfide.
	Yeah, what about hydrogen sulfide?
	Tell me how good that is for you.
	Well, it's very similar in the way it acts on a person as carbon monoxide.
	It attaches itself to the red blood cells, and then you just kind of die if you don't get any oxygen.
	What's also nasty about hydrogen sulfide is that...
	In high concentrations, toxic concentrations, which is one of the reasons.
	It is all over the oil refineries, by the way.
	In toxic concentrations, you can't smell it because it does something to your smeller.
	It sensitizes your nose, and so you can't smell it.
	This is the rotten egg smell that you get.
	Is that what it is?
	Actually, that is.
	In fact, when you fart a rotten egg smell, that's hydrogen sulfide.
	Really?
	So it's man-made?
	It can be if you've been eating overcooked hard-boiled eggs or things like that.
	Really?
	Oh, that's mint.
	I had no idea.
	Well, anyway, sulfur compounds can turn into hydrogen sulfide quite easily.
	And anyway, it stinks.
	It smells like rotten eggs.
	But at real high concentrations, it sensitizes your nose receptors.
	And you can't smell it at all.
	If you take one deep breath, you drop dead.
	Right.
	Very toxic.
	Yeah, that's what seems to be happening down there in Louisiana.
	But it's only in parts per million, you know, when you smell it.
	Right, right.
	It's 50 to 200 parts per million is when you die.
	I don't know what the number is.
	Well, that's what I have from the EPA. That sounds low.
	Really?
	More than that.
	Maybe prolonged exposure at that level, perhaps.
	Right, if you're cleaning a beach or something?
	Maybe.
	Yeah, okay.
	Alright, well, we can talk about that later.
	Why don't we start off...
	Oh, please tell me...
	What was the point of the question?
	Well, no.
	You want me to save it for the second half of the show when I go crazy?
	Okay.
	So why don't we...
	Tell me we have someone supporting today's show, please.
	Oh yeah, we do, but I didn't open the spreadsheet.
	Hang on a second.
	Okay.
	I forgot to do something.
	At least we have someone supporting the show.
	Yeah, this is the worst week we've ever had.
	Oh, of course.
	And I probably can tell you why.
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	Don't even know what I was going to say.
	Whatever you're going to say is not true.
	You've done the analysis.
	You've done the work.
	You've put in the research.
	Yeah, it's partly summer and partly...
	Well, I guess it's safe for me, too.
	We haven't been sending out any mail, and people are wondering who we are.
	People forget.
	I'd like to see what our numbers are.
	But we do have an executive producer, Robert Goschko, out of Sherwood Park, Alberta, a Canadian.
	Nice.
	We have no American producers of any consequence.
	And I'm actually okay with that.
	I am, too.
	I wish we had more from Zurich.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	It's been a long-time listener, first-time donor, so he requests to be de-douched.
	Oh, well, we'd be very happy to comply with that.
	You've been de-douched.
	So he's been de-douched now.
	He gave us $200, and he took over the place.
	And do we have an associate executive producer?
	No, no.
	That's it.
	I'll tell you guys.
	Robert is the guy who took over the place.
	Well, we do, of course, want to thank Andrew McKinnon, who was the series producer for the month of June.
	Did his check clear, by the way?
	I hadn't checked.
	I didn't go to the bank this week.
	I don't think we should do that anymore.
	No, no, we won't.
	We already talked about it.
	We don't need to belabor it.
	We didn't talk about it on the air.
	I don't think we needed to talk about it on the air.
	Well, we should have talked about that off the air during the meeting.
	Well, that'll never happen.
	All right.
	Well, thank God for Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
	We highly appreciate the support from Robert Goschko today, $200, as our executive producer for No Agenda, Episode 209.
	You're keeping us on the air.
	That is highly appreciated.
	Of course, this is a real credit that you can use on your CV. It has been known to be recognized in show business circles as something of great merit and of importance.
	And for the rest of all of you out there, especially you in the chat room, it is time once again to come out with our mantra and our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	And it can also be a karate chop if you feel like it.
	New world.
	Hold out.
	Everybody now.
	Shut up, slave!
	Sit down!
	And watch the oil spill cam!
	And feel threatened!
	So on today's show we have a number of things to discuss.
	Yes.
	And it's going to be interesting.
	They're all related to the oil spill, except one or two items I have.
	No, I think the entire, everything in the world at this point...
	For me, it's just relating to oil.
	It's like anything and everything, I can somehow, within one paragraph in my mind, can relate it back to oil.
	Everything that's happening.
	It's all about oil.
	We can end the show.
	The series can be over.
	Actually, we do have a long clip, so we want to get the show over with about probably ten minutes early, because it's an eight-minute long clip from Jon Stewart that I thought was the best, although Stewart kind of, I think, he may have ruined the flow a little bit, the way he handled it, but probably some of the best work I've ever seen on The Daily Show in my life.
	And let's face it, you've been around for a while.
	And it is kind of a gathering of quotes about how we're going to get off foreign oil that go back to Nixon.
	Every single president saying pretty much the same thing, including Barack.
	I don't know how much work they put into this thing.
	They gave it a long time on the show, because eight minutes is most of the show.
	But the amount of research that went into pulling these clips...
	Was astonishing.
	I mean, it was a jaw-dropper.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't watch Jon Stewart.
	I think it's too late.
	It's 11 o'clock, right?
	It's on too late for me.
	It's on at 4, it's on at 6, it's on at 8, it's on at 10.
	Oh, it's that Jon Stewart channel, right.
	It's Comedy Central.
	They show stuff over and over.
	But anyway, the point is that I've actually put him back on the DVR because since Obama has turned into a kind of a...
	A punching bag.
	A punching bag, exactly.
	Stewart is up.
	He's back on old form.
	He needs that.
	Well, that's right.
	I mean, it was great when Bush was president, and it was funny because he had this enemy, and I guess now Obama is his new enemy.
	Yeah, not only that, but I've got a couple of other clips.
	I decided to lean left this week and listen to all these, some of these shows.
	I decided to...
	I didn't realize that Joy Behar was such...
	Oh, no!
	I mean, she is beyond...
	I mean, this is supposed to be...
	This is off of CNN, and they let somebody like this who's just a blatant promoter?
	Well, technically, it's HLN, so it's your...
	New World in 20 Minutes is what all the young kids are watching these days to get their news.
	They had a lot of Miley Cyrus on this show, that's for sure.
	You know, should we just do this real news for one second?
	And now, back to real news.
	The big distraction which came flying across the wires yesterday is that celebrity blogger Perez Hilton Posted an upskirt of Miley Cyrus, who is, of course, a minor.
	Minor Cyrus.
	And he could go to jail!
	This is the big flap, so to speak.
	Yeah, he'd go to jail for being a kiddie pornographer.
	Yeah, and you know what?
	For once, I think that would be great.
	Hey, this is going to put it to the test.
	I've put Mario Londera Jr.
	I've met with him.
	I had a couple meetings.
	Mario Londera Jr.
	Perez Hilton.
	And I can safely say, 100% Douchebag!
	He's a real dick.
	Yeah, I think most people would agree with that.
	But I mean, not just for the stuff he does, but just as a person.
	He's like, ugh, ugh, you're scary.
	Okay.
	So, do you want to do a Behar clip?
	Is that what you're telling the police?
	No, no, no.
	I want to put the Behar clip.
	When we start talking about Obama's speech, because you're going to talk about Obama's speech, I believe, right?
	Yes.
	Well, there's a couple of things.
	Do you want to get right into that?
	Because the weird thing is, I had a pretty big moment.
	Let's finish the Perez Hilton thing.
	Well, that's it.
	It's a distraction.
	It's just a distraction.
	Everyone's talking about it, but there's been no charges.
	No one has gone to the feds.
	We could do it.
	We could go and complain.
	We say, hey, we think this guy should be in jail.
	This shows you how stupid these sex laws are.
	Anyway, so...
	In fact, talking about how stupid the sex laws are, they are trying to indoctrinate us.
	We've talked about this before, about nudity as pornography.
	The point is that, and I've actually asked some prosecutors about this, and this is an absolute fact.
	If you draw a stick figure, stick figure, and put an arrow pointing to it and say, naked eight-year-old.
	You can go to jail.
	You could go to jail.
	And if you drew the exact same, exact same, no difference, exact same stick figure, and put an arrow to it and said, nude 18-year-old, that's okay.
	God, we should so throw this jabroni in jail.
	So, I mean, yeah, I mean, apparently, I mean, so the kind of propaganda that comes out, play the clip on their clips to Streaker as sex offender.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, this is, of course.
	Oh, please, don't be streaking.
	Hey, that dirty handkerchief you threw on my desk?
	Turns out there was actually some verifiable DNA on it.
	Ryan Winkler had to register as a sex offender after a streak in drunken naked through the city.
	Come on, that's a crime.
	Yes.
	Whatever.
	Let's go bust a punk.
	What is that from?
	That's great.
	It's from a kind of a cop comedy, which I, by the way, think will probably be the end of these cop shows.
	A very well-structured cop comedy called The Good Guys, which just appeared on Fox.
	Oh, right, that just debuted.
	Right, let's go bust a punk.
	Damn streaker.
	You know, it's funny, but it's not, because I'm sure you'll be arrested and have to register as a sex offender.
	If you've been in the park now, the idea is, I think you've brought this up, there's so many pedophiles within.
	When you see a judicial guy or a legislator pushing this sex offender stuff, it's generally because if you make everybody in the country a sex offender, people take a picture of the kid on a bearskin rug, that's a sex offense now.
	A streaking somehow is a sex offense.
	Peeing in the parks is a sex offense.
	Then the real rapist sex offense pedophile creeps can hide in plain sight.
	Right.
	Which is what they do.
	And they're at the highest levels of government and justice.
	And people sometimes look at me like, are you out of your mind?
	Are you insane?
	And like, first, the answer, of course, is yeah.
	Because I don't want to get shot.
	So please continue to call me a crackpot.
	But yeah.
	And the center of it is Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	That's where they are.
	They're sitting there.
	Highest levels of justice.
	Pedophiles.
	And they took me off a radio station and took down the whole station for me saying that.
	Yeah, good work.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is why we need to be user-supported.
	And now I'm on the Internet.
	Because they can't take us down unless they take down the Internet, and they're not doing that.
	Well, I hate to break it to you, John.
	Have you heard about the latest?
	It's not news.
	What do you mean it's not news?
	About the fact that Obama can flip a switch and kill the Internet?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's been around for a couple months now.
	Yeah, but it's heating up now.
	Because now it's a true proposal in the Senate.
	Yeah, it's not going to happen.
	Are you kidding me?
	Of course it's going to happen.
	Of course.
	If we're under attack...
	They're not going to do anything.
	They can flip it off or reset it, but there's too much commerce.
	The economy would go into a tailspin and we'd be in a massive depression.
	Yeah, but John, you're missing the point.
	What do you think all that Sam knows secret sauce is in your Wi-Fi router for?
	That's what it's for.
	Of course commerce will continue, but not in yours.
	Yeah, right.
	Don't worry.
	It'll be at the head end or whatever they call it.
	The head end.
	So anyway, but I got a kick out of that streaker clip because this woman, she says she uses streaker as a sex offender, which has got nothing to do with sex, by the way.
	Streaking never had anything to do with sex, so how are you a sex offender?
	Okay.
	My parents used to, but you struck.
	Didn't you struck?
	No, no.
	You were the guy egging them on.
	You were holding their clothes.
	Definitely.
	I'll hold your clothes.
	Go ahead.
	Go streak.
	We had a lot of girl streakers in Berkeley.
	Back in the day, yeah.
	I mean, my mom used to joke about it.
	That was like the big thing when she was in college.
	Like, we'd go streak at the football game.
	So anyway, she says to the cop, he says, that's an offense?
	A sex offense?
	And she says, yeah.
	And then the cop says, whatever.
	Let's go bust a punk.
	Yeah, let's go bust a punk.
	I love it.
	That's perfect.
	Hey, John, so I've got a break for a second here.
	So I had a pretty big day Monday on my deathbed because I really had a horrible stomach virus and amongst other associated diseases.
	Causing H2S perhaps?
	H2S? Oh, brother.
	A two-minute callback and you don't get it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	H2S. Yes.
	For real.
	I was intoxicating myself.
	And so I was on the Howard Stern show.
	Which I thought was a pretty good appearance.
	And then you're like, well...
	And I said, well, what did you think?
	You know, I sent you a clip.
	You're like, I'll tell you on the show.
	I didn't want to tell you now.
	So I figure you've got something negative to say.
	No, I didn't have anything negative to say.
	It would be nice if you maybe mentioned your partner, because it was my show, my show, my show.
	Oh, Dave Weiner.
	Is that who I'm talking to?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Oh, hi Dave.
	How are you?
	And since I had the crew at Mevio, you didn't mention Mevio, your own company, even once.
	Really?
	Really.
	I talked about the company a lot.
	Yes.
	You know what?
	Let me tell you.
	Everyone knows it's Mevio because I was a hot trending topic on Google.
	And you know what happens when you're a hot trending topic on Google?
	People click on you.
	The spammers come out.
	Oh, you get spammed?
	No, well, so of course, like any good narcissistic person, I have Google Alerts set up for my name.
	And so when you're a hot trending topic, then all of these spam bots jump into action.
	They start creating thousands of webpages with your name.
	Oh, SEO guys.
	Oh my God.
	And so I just got, you know, email after email.
	I'm like, wow, what's going on?
	And you click on all these links and like, poing, you know, Viagra, all this stuff starts popping up.
	Google is lame.
	It's completely gamed, the whole thing.
	It's out of control.
	I've been bitching about this, and I don't see it ending.
	This is the weed whacker anecdote.
	So first of all, apologies if you feel slighted that I didn't mention your name.
	No, I just thought it was an opportunity to mention my name because I could use the publicity.
	I'll tell you why.
	And you didn't say what the show was about, which I thought was a mistake.
	Oh, God.
	You know, do you have any idea how careful you have to be in a Howard Stern interview?
	If I had said what the show was about, then it would have ended very differently.
	Then it would have ended in total disaster.
	You cannot give the guy an inch.
	If you give him one inch of anything that he can noodle into and tear you apart over, he will.
	Well, you did avoid that.
	Well, you know what?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry I did it now.
	Fuck you, Dave Weiner.
	Maybe you didn't mention me.
	I need all the credit.
	You did give yourself all the credit.
	For what?
	I said we are making money.
	No, you said my show, my show, my show, as if you were doing this single show.
	And then you never said what it was about.
	It's not like a music show you're doing.
	We didn't pick up any traffic.
	We were monitoring it in real time.
	Oh yeah?
	I saw about 10 times as much traffic to noagendashow.com.
	What are you talking about?
	You don't see any numbers.
	What are you talking about?
	That's what they were doing at the office.
	They were looking for traffic spikes.
	They didn't see any.
	You're a fucking baby.
	I'm just telling you.
	You didn't mention my name.
	Me, me, me, me.
	Yeah, it was...
	You know, I did in the morning.
	I got noagendashow.com.
	You got in the morning at the very end.
	You could have said it right at the beginning.
	You didn't do that either.
	What the fuck?
	Fuck you.
	I'm just telling you.
	You wanted a commentary.
	No, I wanted commentary.
	I didn't want a baby to be like...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	All you want is praise.
	No.
	That's it.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	You know what?
	That's right.
	You know what they all say?
	They're right.
	All I want is for you to suck my dick.
	That's right.
	So you actually get free health care and free cell phone.
	That's it.
	Now, this is the kind of thing we need more on this show.
	We need some more support.
	People like it when we bicker.
	No, I don't like it because you've seriously got me...
	Of all the things you could have said, of all the things, you didn't mention my name, it was like my show, my show, my show.
	Well, guess what?
	It is my show.
	Okay.
	Jesus Christ.
	No wonder your kids are fucked up.
	Oh, brother.
	It's that homeschooling.
	They're probably going to turn into terrorists.
	That could be.
	Are you calmed down now?
	No, I'm livid.
	I'm livid.
	I finally go out and I get some real promotion for the show.
	You could be on a thousand shows.
	You do one thing once.
	This is not one of a thousand shows.
	This is a show that...
	That you yourself say is marginalized.
	In fact, you've said it on this show.
	Ah, that's different.
	That's different.
	No, no, no.
	I said Howard Stern is marginalized because the media doesn't talk about him anymore.
	It has nothing to do with the fact that he has a huge audience that is probably listening to us right now.
	I would like to hear anyone in the Twitter army or in the chat.
	Oh, I need my friends to come and help me.
	Please tell me.
	Tell me I'm right.
	If you're just going to be this way about this, I'm sorry I brought it up.
	You should be.
	No, I mean, it's okay.
	For you to be upset, I didn't mention your name.
	I wasn't upset.
	I just said that it was nice.
	If you showed some consideration, in the least, and did one of two or three things.
	One, you didn't mention Mevio the entire interview.
	Well, that was an oversight.
	I talked about the company the whole time.
	I'm sorry, it was 3.30 in the morning.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I talked about what we do.
	I talked about that we're helping people make money.
	So yeah, that's a good point.
	Valid point.
	But I felt it was not prudent to go into what our show was about without him asking.
	Because then he'll be like, oh, what are you?
	Okay, I'll give you that.
	You've got to be careful with these things.
	So I figured, you know, as long as they spell your name right, it's good press.
	But of course they didn't spell your name because they didn't mention you because it's only my show.
	Ugh.
	That's the only three comments I had.
	The rest of it I thought was a little boring.
	Boring.
	Yeah, don't you think it was boring?
	He didn't have any good questions to ask.
	He just kept grilling you about how much money could be made.
	It was almost like listening to Charlie Rose when he gets carried away with how much money you make.
	What does it feel like to be a millionaire?
	The guy's got half a billion dollars.
	You should be interviewing him.
	All right.
	Well, I'm sorry I did it, though.
	Because now it's put bad blood between us.
	There he goes.
	Well, when you calm down, we can get back to this show.
	No, go ahead.
	I mean, since you're so important on the show, please carry it as usual.
	I never said that I carried the show.
	No, no, no.
	I just thought it would be nice if you mentioned my name.
	Is that asking too much?
	I always mention your name.
	I've done a number of shows.
	Well, because no one knows John C. Dvorak.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Well, I apologize.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought I did a good job.
	I thought I did a good job for the show, and apparently...
	Well, if we start, I didn't see anything.
	Apparently, the name recognition for the show is not enough.
	I have to have a checklist next time of people to thank.
	And I want to thank...
	You know what?
	I'll thank you and your buddies.
	You know how much time we're wasting on this?
	I don't think it's wasted time.
	I have no agenda.
	Do you?
	I'm just saying...
	No, I don't.
	But you seem to have one right now just to belittle me.
	Belittle you?
	You called me Dave Weiner.
	What's the most insulting thing you can tell anybody?
	Well, that's exactly what Dave Weiner did when I did an interview about podcasting.
	Like, you didn't mention my name.
	You just did it again.
	What?
	What did I do again?
	You called me Dave Weiner.
	No, I'm explaining why I'm making that analogy.
	Because this is a complete repeat for me.
	When I was out promoting podcasting, Dave Weiner got all bent out of shape that I didn't say...
	Were you doing a show with Weiner?
	I didn't realize that.
	Actually, I was, yeah.
	Yes, I was.
	And you talked about the show and you never mentioned him?
	No, I was talking about podcasting.
	Well, that's different.
	Okay, whatever.
	I have respect for you.
	I have respect for your opinion and your feelings.
	So, if you were here, I'd hug you.
	And I'd say, I'm sorry.
	I'll make it up to you.
	That's just a comment I made.
	Yeah.
	That's okay.
	Point taken.
	So, this is why we need listener support.
	Why?
	I hear radios all around the world turning off.
	Actually, they never turn off that stuff.
	But talking about bad acting, I got a clip for you.
	I didn't realize, by the way, what a crappy movie Rebel Without a Cause was.
	You mean Marlon Brando?
	No, with James Dean.
	I'm sorry.
	Natalie Wood.
	That was the wild one.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's black and white.
	Ah!
	It's in color.
	Really?
	Was that not a colorized version you saw?
	I don't think so.
	Hmm.
	But it was so grim that you would just...
	There's a bunch of movies I've seen that I imagine were in color or black and white, and when I went to see them again, it was just the opposite.
	Okay, so you watched it.
	This is the worst movie I think.
	It's got so much praise, and I was watching part of it.
	It's just the most unbelievably bad movie I've ever seen.
	I can't believe that...
	And James Dean, I don't see what the big deal is.
	Okay.
	It's my pet peeve of the day.
	You can play the clip or not.
	Well, that wasn't a real good setup.
	I mean, do you want the clip of Rebel Without a Cause, you mean?
	Yeah.
	Jimbo?
	Jimbo?
	You awake?
	Dad?
	Can I ask you something?
	Sure.
	Sure, Jimbo.
	Shoot.
	Suppose you had to do something.
	No, you're right.
	It's horrible.
	It just gets worse.
	You just wanted to go pee?
	Is that why you wanted me to play this two and a half minute clip of Rebel Without a Cause?
	You know, we have Netflix.
	Mickey insisted on getting Netflix and I'm like, yeah, you're going to regret it.
	And you do regret it because the quality of the DVDs that show up are so crappy.
	But we got Rosemary's Baby the other day.
	You mean they're crappy?
	There's scratches on it, and they get stuck, and they don't eject, and there's always something with these Netflix DVDs.
	Because you get them from other people, and they're using them as coasters.
	And so we rented Rosemary's Baby, which is another classic.
	And I was like, alright, slow.
	I need explosions and action and stuff.
	just a story with old cars doesn't hit, doesn't do it anymore.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Can we get back to Obama?
	We must find a common enemy.
	That'll help.
	Go ahead.
	What you got?
	I found that, I think the whole thing that, did you get any clips from the speech?
	I didn't pull anything from the speech, because first of all, it's been played over and over and over again, and I was thinking we could pull it apart, but maybe it's more interesting what happened yesterday, and I don't have to play a clip for everyone to understand the point.
	So there was a meeting between, and this meeting included some amazing people, by the way.
	I've done a little bit of work on them.
	So the meeting between BP and the President, and so the President comes out and he says, well, you know, we worked it all out with BP, and this is just such an amazing, astounding, great move.
	They're going to put $20 billion They're going to set that into escrow.
	By the way, the way this shows up in the press is here's the Wall Street Journal, who you would expect to do some proper journalistic reporting.
	Their headline is BP agrees to $20 billion fund.
	Now, there is a tremendous difference between a fund and an escrow account.
	Particularly if an escrow account is administered by a, quote, independent third party, which can only be a bank, because banks keep money like that.
	So BP, first of all, doesn't have $20 billion in cash.
	They have about $6 billion in cash.
	I've looked at their balance sheet.
	So they said that they're going to make immediate significant reductions in capital spending.
	They're going to sell off some assets that generate about $10 billion of the $20 billion in the next 12 months.
	And then they're going to figure out where they get the rest from.
	So, to put $20 billion into an escrow account, which an escrow account is essentially, it's a bank account, and there's a huge document, which could be hundreds or thousands of pages long, which determines how the escrow pops.
	And it can be on either side.
	It can go back to the originator of the funds.
	And to me, this is a brilliant move.
	BP's like, holy crap, we're in trouble.
	Let's get the money out.
	So it's the most logical thing to do is to get it out and put it into a bank account.
	Safe!
	And we'll never see the terms of the escrow.
	We'll never see that.
	It's not a fund.
	It's not like a fund that someone administers the fund.
	No, it's an escrow account.
	And no one's talking about it.
	There's a fundamental difference between an escrow account and a fund.
	So I think it's a brilliant move to...
	We have to get a hold of the document.
	We'll never see that document, ever.
	Why not?
	Because that'll be the smoking gun.
	And then to add insult to injury, they put Kenneth Feinberg in charge of doling out the money?
	Kenneth Feinberg, really?
	This is the guy who was in charge of a number of payouts to slaves of Gitmo Nation.
	He was the special paymaster for the 9-11 Victims Compensation Fund, which was a beautiful setup.
	98% of all the families, and by the way, we don't know how much each family received because that was all kept secret.
	Taxpayer money kept secret as to how much they received.
	You could only take your 9-11 compensation money if you signed an agreement that said you would never sue the government or the Israeli security company that let the so-called terrorists onto the planes.
	So this is going to be exactly the same thing.
	Hey, you want some money?
	Alright, come over here.
	Sign this document.
	Shut up.
	You can never ever sue the government over the fact that you are dying of...
	What is it?
	H2K? What is that stuff?
	The...
	H2S? H2S. Well, no, that wouldn't be the case.
	Well, you can't sue the government ever, or BP, or anyone else for that matter, or Halliburton, or any of these other companies that are involved with this.
	Just take the money and shut up.
	And they put this jabroni back in charge of it.
	That's what he does.
	And then who else was at the table?
	Jamie Gorlick.
	Jamie Gorlick is the lead attorney for BP... Now, do a little bit of research on Jamie Gorlick.
	Jamie Gorlick happened to be a 9-11 commission member.
	The one who constructed the so-called wall of separation that kept the CIA and the FBI from comparing notes back when Jamie was with the Clinton administration.
	The whole cabal has been brought in for this thing.
	This is the biggest snow job in history.
	And I'll give you my theory on this.
	And by the way, it's not like BP stock tanked all of a sudden.
	How are they doing today?
	Is BP like down and completely dead?
	No.
	I don't even have to look.
	No way.
	Because everyone who's in the game is laughing about it.
	Oh, this is great.
	Our money's safe.
	It's in the escrow account.
	That's good.
	So if we have to go bankrupt, we'll just buy up all the assets, which is just paper from BP. That'll all go to other companies these people are all invested in.
	And the money's safe.
	And the victims, that $100 million fund, which is an actual fund, that's what people will get paid out of.
	And by the way, we also learned that BP's total liability, as we've been saying on the show, was only $75 million.
	They didn't have to pay billions and billions.
	They weren't.
	Taxpayer money was being used for that.
	Part of the $2.7 billion fund that was set up as a part of the Environmental Protection Act.
	Under Bush.
	So, here's what's really going on.
	These guys, they drilled into something spectacular.
	Something which is known as abiotic oil.
	And that is, of course, only a theory that abiotic oil exists.
	And that's something I think you actually buy.
	Bye, darling.
	Break a leg.
	That's something that you actually believe in as well, is that there is no such thing as peak oil, but abiotic oil that deep in the bowels of the earth, oil is being recreated.
	It's a regenerative process.
	And they drilled into this motherlode, which was a very dangerous thing for them to do.
	And I think I've mentioned this before.
	And Lindsay Williams, actually, is the guy going around saying all this.
	And he's been right before about when it comes to oil.
	You've got to Google him.
	Lindsay Williams?
	Yes, Lindsay Williams.
	He was a pastor in Alaska.
	And he apparently got pretty close to a lot of the oil cabal.
	And so he's called a lot of prices right, a lot of different things.
	He's been extremely...
	The guy's like 78, 79 years old.
	Someone's calling me for some reason.
	So anyway, the Russians hit this motherlode in the, I was going to say it was the 70s, no, the 80s.
	And they drilled down to 40,000 feet, but they were on land, and so they were able to cap all this stuff and stop what they had drilled into because the pressure is so enormous.
	BP did this, and they hit the motherlode, and of course they don't have the technology to actually stop it.
	What they're trying to do is drill these relief wells because then they'll be able to siphon all this awesome stuff up.
	That's what the relief wells are about.
	It's not about relieving the spill.
	It's about them being able to actually get into this mother load and suck it all up.
	But they drilled into something that has volcanic properties.
	This is the center of the earth.
	They drilled into some amazing...
	Big bang thing.
	And it's way too powerful for any blowout preventer device.
	There's no way they could stop any of this.
	And it is blowing out.
	I have a news clip for you.
	Hold on.
	Give me your assessment of this, John.
	You understand these chemicals much better than I do.
	Oil concerns aren't just limited to the waterways and marshes.
	There are also worries how the oil may be affecting air quality along coastal Louisiana.
	Maya Rodriguez has that part of the story.
	There are the oil effects you can see and the ones you can't, like when oil compounds break down and go airborne.
	We don't want to be alarmist, but we want to be realistic.
	For several weeks now, the Federal Environmental Protection Agency has been tracking what's in the air by using a mobile truck and seven monitoring stations located mainly in St.
	St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes.
	They are looking for evidence of several compounds, including hydrogen sulfide and volatile organic compounds, or VOCs, like benzene, which can cause cancer.
	These pollutants could pose a health risk to local communities, and this monitoring is essential.
	Yeah, I know.
	She looks moronic, doesn't she?
	She's a...
	Yeah, right?
	What?
	No, she's just reading.
	As BP takes direct response actions, all can irritate the eyes, nose, throat, and lungs, and in some cases lead to nausea and dizziness.
	So what have they found?
	Some elevated levels, but not on every day, and not for long periods of time.
	So this is the interesting, this is what caught my attention.
	Elevated levels, but they fluctuate wildly.
	The levels have not been that high.
	Is it something that we want out there?
	Absolutely not.
	This is a public health official, of course.
	But it's pretty far offshore.
	Take hydrogen sulfide, commonly known as swamp gas.
	A normal level ranges from 5 to 10 parts per billion.
	At the Venice station on May 2nd, the levels recorded were 30 parts per billion.
	The next day, the reading was nearly 40 times that at nearly 1,200 parts per billion.
	And the day after that, it dropped down to 46, before rising the next day to more than 1,000.
	It varies depending on the wind direction, depending on whether or not they're burning the slick.
	I think what they're saying is that it's an okay exposure for a short amount of time, and we have a concern about that sort of exposure for any amount of time.
	Okay, so if you want to see the rest of that report, you can.
	But then on democracy...
	First of all, by the way, swamp gas, as far as I know, is methane.
	Well, I'm not saying they have all of their ducks in a row, but I think the data that I have here from the Louisiana Environmental Action Network,
	who analyzed the EPA data, is specifically talking about H2S. And the levels found in the air, which the fluctuation is what I find interesting.
	Now, democracy now, and this is a long clip, so I'll just play a little bit...
	Really, and these guys, you know, talk about boring.
	It's a democracy now.
	It's almost impossible to sit through.
	But they do have some, in this case, they've got a really interesting guy on who's really telling the truth about what's happening to people who are down there, some who have tried to assist with the cleanup, and they're falling down.
	They're going into hospital.
	Oh, that's why the BP people are rousting any news reporters.
	Exactly.
	Well, it gets even worse.
	I think I can find this piece.
	Sorry, I didn't have time to pull the clips.
	The guy says that they had people with gas masks and BP wouldn't let them on the beach if they were wearing gas masks because they don't want any news footage of people wearing gas masks because they're dying down there.
	That makes sense.
	And then these people go straight into the hospital.
	So let me just get this guy on for a second, because he's actually pretty damn good.
	He's a third-generation shrimp fisherman.
	This is Democracy Now!
	We welcome you to the studios of Democracy Now!
	that we're speaking to in New Orleans.
	Tell us what's happening, Clint.
	Well, good morning.
	Thanks for having me.
	This is a situation that has been ongoing for several weeks now.
	Having had prior training and experience working with oil and the chemicals in oil and their dangers.
	Oh, nice freeze.
	In oil, and they're dangerous.
	What is that?
	Several fishermen out on the work site, they were complaining of burning eyes and strong smells, and my experience told me that they were getting exposed to dangerous chemicals.
	The benzenes, all the light ends off the crude, and this is a new experience for me.
	I have been doing some research.
	It contains a substance called 2-butoxyethyl.
	So he goes into the whole Corexit thing, but if you watch the whole interview, and I wish I'd pulled that clip, the seminal part is where he says, you know, I brought gas masks down for my people who I've been working and living with for years, and BP would not allow them to wear the gas masks.
	And now there's like 11 or 15 people in the hospital.
	Hmm.
	And there was also an email, now this is dodgy, because of course this showed up on AboveTopSecret.com, but worth mentioning.
	This is from someone on one of the rigs that is either still drilling or has been halted, and they're still on the rig.
	Everyone here is talking about, but no one dares to say anything about it, even to their families.
	There's something happening about 100 miles southeast of the rig with several Navy and Coast Guard ships.
	Friday, two serious-looking dudes arrived and started directing our SUP. I don't know what SUP is.
	What is a SUP? Apparently, they showed Navy Intelligence ID when they arrived along with a dozen commandos.
	Rumors they're now going to call martial law.
	All of us will be prevented from leaving the ships to see our families.
	Uh, things are going from bad to crazy.
	Nearly everyone here is of the belief that the blowout was planned as a way to destroy a well that had too many problems to be ultimately profitable and to get two new wells drilled.
	That will be wildly profitable.
	And the only way to do, to do that was to destroy this one.
	We calculated that even with paying cleanup cost, the profit on two wells in this reserve will far outweigh the cost in less than a year.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're not buying it?
	I'm not buying it because it seems it's like they blow, they do what, 10 to 11, 22 people, 11 people are killed.
	They lose the rig, the whole thing blows up and now they got nothing but bad publicity and there's real oil coming out.
	I mean, what's wrong with that?
	It just doesn't make sense to me.
	Well, see, I think that this was really an accident.
	I think that they did hit...
	That I'm pretty convinced.
	I'm sticking with the Schlumberger thing.
	I think there was a poorly constructed well, wellhead, and they told them to shut it down.
	They wouldn't do it.
	And the thing blew up, and now they're stuck with it.
	I'm absolutely convinced that's all there is to it.
	And you think that this is just a normal, regular old well, and it couldn't be some incredible high-pressure blower?
	No, no, I think it was a bad news.
	Obviously, the Schlumberger guys, I wish they would testify, saw something about the thing that was just an unstable situation.
	I don't know if they expect it to be one of these deep, one of these abiotic structures.
	I'm not sure.
	All I know is I think it was a poorly constructed well and they were slipshod and the thing fell apart and now they're stuck with the consequences.
	I don't think there's a scheme afoot.
	Well, I don't think there was a scheme set up beforehand, but I think they hit something really big.
	I think it is out of control.
	I'm really going to buy into this toxicity of whatever's coming out is not just oil, but it's all kinds of volcanic crap coming from the middle of the earth, and it's going to kill everyone and everything down there.
	Yeah.
	And the president, in his speech, for all intents and purposes, already killed the whole region because he said, look, we're just going to stop all drilling until we've figured this out.
	Well, that could be years.
	So it's done.
	It's over.
	And it's not just shrimping people do down there.
	Would you say that the shrimp industry is larger than the petroleum industry on the Louisiana coast?
	I don't know what the numbers are.
	It's my belief that that whole region is pretty much petroleum.
	And in the seasons, they go out and they do some shrimping.
	So there's reports now, it's apparently some of these cracks.
	It was the cement job, it seems to be part of it.
	Here's a Bloomberg story, just ran on the 17th.
	Apparently, the BP was struggling to seal...
	I like this, BP, PLC. Was struggling to seal, which means it's just, like you said, a holding company.
	Struggling to seal cracks in its Macondo well as far back as February, more than two months before the explosion.
	Took ten days to plug the first cracks, according to reports.
	Cracks in the surrounding rock continue to complicate the drilling operation during the ensuing weeks.
	Left unsealed, they can allow explosive natural gas to rush up the shaft.
	Yeah.
	All of this, to me, is just bull.
	All I know is we're being indoctrinated with spill cam video on every single channel showing this gushing thing flowing out.
	The intent is they're turning this into a 9-11.
	They've brought in the 9-11 people.
	They just pulled out the playbook.
	What do we do again?
	Oh yeah, call Kenneth.
	Yeah, bring him in.
	We know how to do this.
	Only this time, it wasn't an actual setup like 9-11.
	It was an actual accident.
	But how do we not let this crisis go to waste?
	Well, let's kill the region.
	Let's make sure we drill these two holes so we can still get all of that oil.
	It'll go into a new company that buys up the assets of BP. I can feel exactly what's happening already.
	It'll buy it all up.
	And they'll take over those two holes.
	And everything moves down to Brazil.
	That's where all the new oil is.
	And then, of course, they're going to go closer to Haiti and Jamaica, which is the new paradise.
	And the drilling in Louisiana, it's all over.
	It's done.
	And please, while we're at it, let's pass cap and trade.
	This is a perfect opportunity.
	The vote, I think one of the first votes is coming up before July 4th.
	So that's being ramrodded through.
	The president in his speech immediately takes advantage of the situation.
	And I love it when everyone's talking about reducing your dependence upon foreign oil.
	This is not foreign oil.
	This is U.S. oil.
	Sitting right there on the U.S. shelf.
	Oh, we've got to reduce our dependence upon foreign oil.
	We've got to drive electric cars.
	It's stupid.
	This is what they're going to use to try and kickstart the green economy.
	And the whole fix is in.
	And then all of this bullshit, all this theater about Halliburton or Schlumberger and who's to blame and let's put the people on the stand.
	Why don't I see the people from the minerals department of, what is it?
	Mineral MMS? Mineral Management Services.
	Yeah.
	How come those guys aren't in the stand who were like doing coke and screwing hookers with the oil companies?
	Because that's what everyone says.
	Where are they?
	How come they're not in the stockade?
	They're probably screwing hookers.
	Yeah, but it's ridiculous.
	There's oversight.
	They had permission and licenses to do this.
	From the government!
	No, let's put all these other people, all these actors, let's put that on the stage.
	Somehow they're trying to blame Bush for everything.
	Of course!
	And it was Lazar, is that his name?
	Salazar.
	Salazar, who was Bush's guy of the interior, and Obama just kept him on, just like Robert Gates, the defense secretary.
	He kept all of the important guys on, because that was his job, was just take the baton and walk with it.
	And Salazar was, oh, I'm going to clean it all up.
	Let's get that guy on.
	Put that guy in front of television.
	What were you doing?
	Yeah, I haven't seen any of these guys.
	I did see Marky, though, the guy who's behind Cap and Trade, grilling the...
	Oil company executives.
	And he came up with this very interesting thing.
	I have a clip of it.
	A revelation that all their emergency plans, which they had submitted, I guess, to MMS, were not only identical, but totally bogus and kind of cut and pasted and thrown into the...
	And nobody gave a shit.
	And the irony is, of course, Markey brings it up now.
	He's the big energy nutball in the Congress that's pushing all this stuff.
	How come nobody noticed this before, including him?
	Why is he bringing it up after the fact?
	You can play this, Mark.
	These five companies have response plans that are virtually identical.
	The plans cite identical response capabilities and tout identical ineffective equipment.
	The covers of the five response plans are different colors, but the content is 90% identical.
	Like BP, three other companies include references to protecting walruses, which have not called the Gulf of Mexico home for three million years.
	Two other plants are such dead ringers for BPs that they list a phone number for the same long-dead expert.
	Yeah, no, I agree with you, John.
	I love that now all of a sudden we're coming out with, oh, this well had these problems before.
	This happened in February.
	Well, how come the government is to blame?
	Of course these companies don't give a crap about anybody and about environment or people.
	We all know that because they're all in the same game.
	They're all part of the same cabal.
	Now they're just, oh, let's just push this actor out in front.
	Tony, Tony Hayward, he looks pretty good.
	He has a nice British accent.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Put him in there.
	And the president just walks right over the fact that, oh, you know, it was the minerals management, you know, that won't happen again.
	He promised when he went in, he promised that he was going to clean all of that up, and Salazar was the guy who was going to do it.
	He was going to take care of it all.
	Secretary of the Interior.
	These are the people that need to be blamed first.
	First.
	They didn't read the plans?
	Let me get this straight.
	You've got a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate, and a Democratic House of Representatives, and so the first thing you think they're going to do is go after themselves.
	Yeah.
	It's more about pointing out that it doesn't matter.
	Democrat, Republican, it doesn't fucking matter.
	The people behind the oil companies, they run the whole show.
	They run the world.
	They don't care.
	They really don't care.
	And Obama is in their pocket.
	His stock is vested in...
	Hold on a second.
	Let me find it for you.
	There's a fund that the president put all of his assets into when he became president, which I think is normal, right?
	Yeah, it's usually a blind trust.
	Right.
	Well, the blind trust is...
	Hold on.
	I've got to look at insiders here.
	Major holders.
	There's two.
	It's Vanguard.
	Vanguard.
	Vanguard Wellington.
	This is what President Obama has his money vested with.
	And these guys own about 1% of all of BP, Vanguard, if you put all of their funds together.
	They're all in it.
	It's infuriating yet not surprising at the same time.
	Okay, so what do you think is going to happen?
	Because all you've done is just bring up the fact that the whole situation is corrupt.
	We're not being told anything.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll tell you.
	Maybe they've struck a gold mine of never-ending supply of oil or perhaps ruining the process.
	You haven't considered this possibility.
	Let's assume that abiotic oil is actually something real.
	Is it possible that by drilling a hole into the main mother load that's supposed to be replenishing the pools that you're going to kill the process?
	No.
	I think...
	No, you don't.
	Well, obviously I don't.
	It's very theoretical about avionic oil.
	But I do have a feeling that it's certainly possible, so it may not be replenishing the other wells.
	But if it's a process, then the mother load keeps going.
	They drill two of these relief wells.
	They put whoever BP is going to be, because BP will go out of business.
	It's just going to shift over to another company.
	And by the way, BP was already a roll-up of maybe 10 different companies that rolled up into BP. It's just like a big holding company.
	So another holding company will come in.
	They'll own those wells.
	That is the true mother load.
	They'll just keep that stuff pumping and pumping forever under the guise of you're not allowed to drill.
	So everyone else, get the hell out.
	All the smaller players, get out of the Gulf region.
	No more drilling for you.
	The new BP... We'll just call it that.
	The new BP will be sitting on the motherlode.
	They'll be pumping.
	Everyone else goes off to South America because it's dead.
	You can't drill anymore.
	It's all over.
	So everyone has to go.
	That whole region is going to die, both economically and physically, because of the toxins, and because they don't give a crap, and the president's focusing you on the shrimpers.
	Well, it's not just the shrimpers.
	And now we're going to move into the natural gas phase, because while all of this is taking place in Louisiana, we're seeing huge shifts with Gazprom and Russia trying to supply all of Europe with natural gas.
	We're going to see another accident or something, and I think it's going to be another one of these flotilla incidents.
	In fact, no coincidence that little Timmy Geithner came out yesterday with new sanctions against Iran, but not just against Iran, against all the gas companies in Iran, because those guys have been working on a new pipeline that they desperately need to stop, because Iran was going to supply natural gas to Europe.
	So it's just shifts.
	It's just tectonic shifts in who is running the show.
	And these guys are all fighting each other at the top levels.
	Let me find the...
	I'll give you the name of the pipeline.
	Remember I talked about Bluestream the other day?
	No, I don't remember that.
	Yeah, well, yeah, that was the original, the Bluestream 1 was set up by Enron.
	Oh, right, the Enron pipeline.
	Right, so, here, let me, oh, shit.
	Oh, crap, I didn't mean to do that.
	Here it is.
	Now, I got a lot of people that I'm talking to about this, and I really don't think I'm far off on, here it is.
	I don't know.
	Well...
	Here it is.
	The Nabucco.
	That's it.
	Nabucco.
	You can Google that one.
	Nabucco gas line.
	And guess who's involved with the Nabucco gas line?
	Turkey.
	It's supposed to go through Turkey and then from Turkey into Europe.
	Well, guess who's the big asshole these days?
	Turkey.
	So they're trying to stop that.
	Because it all has to come from Russia.
	So, yeah, so I think we can see this unfold, and you'll see that, yes, this leak will not stop.
	That's why we have the continuous looped video.
	Of the oil wells.
	You can constantly be reminded it's going on, it's going on.
	We have to have these very important BP vessels there.
	And meanwhile, they're just going to be sucking it all up.
	They're just turning this into a complete benefit.
	We'll just drill these little holes here that we can manage.
	We'll start sucking the oil there.
	We'll keep the continuous loop rolling.
	They'll be rolling in the dough because there's no way we're getting off oil anytime soon.
	Not in my lifetime.
	We're just going to keep it rolling.
	And everyone else will be all consumed with the congressional hearings.
	I think that's what's going to happen.
	And it will not stop.
	It's the new 9-11 is what it is.
	The new 9-11, and they've brought in all the same players.
	Well, it's a grim picture you're painting.
	Yeah, no wonder I'm pissed.
	And while we're on that, just to show you how these cover-ups work, because I'm sure in 10 years people will be talking about this as we were talking about 9-11 today.
	They'll still be going in 10 years.
	They'll keep the loop going.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It'll be all scratchy and shit.
	Wow, I'd never seen that before.
	There was a Freedom of Information Act, just to show you how ludicrous this all is.
	Remember on 9-11, there was...
	A whole bunch of people put down options on American Airlines and United Airlines and they made a huge amount of money.
	Killing is the word.
	A killing.
	Literally a killing.
	This is very interesting to find out.
	Who put those options on?
	Because the timing is rather uncanny.
	So now we are almost the 10th anniversary of 9-11.
	No one gives a crap.
	We don't even know that Jamie Gorlick was on the 9-11 commission and that she's being brought in by BP as a part of the dealmakers.
	They're all sitting around the table laughing.
	David Callahan, executive editor of Smart CEO, I guess a financial analysis firm, submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the SEC regarding the pre-9-11 put options.
	This is the gamble that something's going to go down.
	It would be kind of interesting to know who had those put options.
	The SEC responds with...
	This letter is in response to your request seeking access to and copies of the documentary evidence referred to in footnote 130 of chapter 5 of the September 11 commission report.
	Because it was mentioned in the commission report.
	We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed.
	What?
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	That's their response.
	We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed.
	Sorry.
	Shut up, slave.
	Go away.
	And you know how they were destroyed, John?
	Do you know where they were?
	They were in WTC7. WTC7 won't go away.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly where those records were.
	Those puts and calls had to be executed, and the execution data has to be available somewhere, because otherwise they wouldn't have gotten their money out.
	Right, but I'm just saying, we'll be looking at evidence like this in 10 years from now.
	We'll be looking back at this, and there will be this big black mark on Google Earth, and that will be Louisiana.
	Everyone will be dead.
	It'll be a complete no-go zone.
	Because of the volcanic properties of this crap that's spewing out, except for a bunch of guys on new BP rigs with gas masks, and they'll be pumping out the mother load of abiotic oil.
	That's my theory.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Meanwhile, the left-wingers have turned on Obama.
	Which I think is probably...
	It feels like...
	I don't know.
	It feels like part of the setup.
	I don't know.
	But the thing is, it seems to be the thing that triggered it, and I have two pieces of documentation for this.
	One is Janine Garofalo and Ron Reagan Jr.
	on Behar.
	It's a very good clip, actually.
	I've been waiting for her to show up again.
	Do you have the clip?
	Yeah, she's back.
	Do you have the clip?
	And she, by the way, does this very interesting classic left-wing, what they all feel about Obama.
	And then...
	Of course, at the very end, she gives Behar the needle for her coverage of Miley Cyrus.
	But if you listen to the Behar henhouse clip, you will get the gist of the way...
	Not only that, but you get to hear exactly how Behar is in the Democrat camp to the point where this is a show for the Democrat Party.
	These guys want to change some of the laws about equal...
	What's the name of that law that we talked about before?
	The Fairness Doctrine.
	The Fairness Doctrine.
	This show here would be off the air instantly.
	Play it.
	They're talking points.
	That is so Bush-like.
	It's shocking that he's behaving this way.
	I don't know who's giving him the worst advice in the world.
	I don't know why this presidency has been as disappointing as it has been.
	I really feel like he's being advised terribly.
	Now, there's the critics that will always criticize him, and I don't think it's even valid to entertain the Tea Party kind of nonsense.
	And also now when they're saying they don't like government, and now they want government to intervene in this.
	Oh, I know.
	The hypocrisy.
	And also what scares me, too, is that, you know, he's getting attacked from the left and the right.
	He's really being attacked, I think, a lot.
	And who's going to take the place?
	Who are we going to get instead of him?
	Some Sarah Palin clone or she herself?
	It'll be even worse.
	Well, there's a difference between attacking and criticizing.
	Isn't that a scary thought?
	That's the dilemma for liberals.
	That's the dilemma for progressives and liberals, is you get somebody worse if it's not Barack Obama.
	So what are we supposed to do about it?
	Even though Barack Obama isn't doing what we want him to do.
	What do we do about it?
	Keep lighting a fire under him.
	Keep doing what we're doing, talking about this.
	And we need media reform.
	That's all we can do, really.
	I think media reform is important, that people really do get full of fair information and more news about what's going on and more transparency.
	How much more news do we need?
	Every station is news.
	Oh, yeah, but it's not good.
	It's not well presented.
	There's not context and history and nuance and complexity.
	They have all this he-said-she-said nonsense as if there is two sides to every story, which there isn't.
	It would be great if these news sources told the truth once in a while.
	That would be interesting.
	Well, we try to do our best here.
	Yeah, you guys are good.
	You got that Miley Cyrus thing all wrapped up.
	Okay, you won't be back.
	That's a lot.
	So, alright.
	I think I know what's happening here.
	This is...
	Actually, this pleases me.
	This is the awakening of the American public.
	Wow.
	This actually all of a sudden kind of just hit me.
	I like this.
	It all kind of makes sense.
	Of course, as Americans, we...
	And I'm a red-blooded American.
	We love to be with the winning team, and then when the winning team is no longer winning, we're like, well, fuck you, I'm going to go with these other guys.
	That's what we always do.
	And so despite cries, outcry of warning, and I would say from this program as well, We said, you know, this guy may not be what or who you think he is.
	Now all, you know, Behar, of course, Garofalo says, oh, it's his advisors.
	Jesus, what an idiot.
	Jon Stewart, everyone who was way on board the Obama train and all the love and the lights and the flowers and the people and we are the world and kumbaya.
	Chris Matthews, too, is really attacking.
	Yes.
	Now everyone's seeing that, oh, wait a minute, we fucked up by really supporting this guy because it's just more of the same.
	Say hello to the new boss, same as the old one.
	And now they're all turning on him because they want to protect their own ass because you cannot, even with a clear conscience, support what's going on.
	And I think it's an awakening, John.
	I think people are saying, oh, Jesus Christ, all that shit people were saying is true.
	So I see this as a really good thing, and I do like the fact, as big a douche as she is, that Joy Behar is saying, well, what are we going to get?
	Well, thank you very much.
	That's the whole point.
	It's a big club, and you're not in it, Joy.
	None of us are in it.
	They're all sitting there in their little club.
	So I think this is good.
	So yeah, I'm not going to argue the point, but the one thing that kind of ticks off these liberals more than anything, it seems to be Obama's reference to prayer, which Garofalo referred to as a cheap thing to do.
	And then Stewart took it to the next level, and I have this Stewart clip, which kind of, I think, summarizes the kind of a liberal attitude toward what Obama said.
	We will do whatever is necessary to help the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy.
	Okay, alright, so this was really a speech in the prime time of the nation in the Oval Office to give us an update.
	A little reassuring classic Obama.
	It's cool.
	Everything's under control.
	Tonight, we pray for that courage.
	We pray for the people of the Gulf.
	And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day.
	What the f*** was that?
	We're all gonna die?
	I thought you just did the whole thing.
	I got this.
	It's okay.
	I got a commission.
	Everything's gonna be fine.
	May God have mercy on ourselves.
	I mean, if this is a commission-based administrative problem, what's with the freaky talk?
	Yeah.
	There was something in his speech.
	He also said, this will not be the last crisis America faces.
	You don't say that shit.
	It's like, what?
	You got something planned?
	Something we don't know about?
	Speaking of prayer, now of course this would not be legible to play a clip.
	Nal TV in Egypt had Egyptian foreign minister Abul Gait, I think it is, translated something called the Roundtable Show.
	And you know what?
	Here's what he said.
	He said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, which I guess was a couple months ago, in which President Obama told him, quote, he was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the stepson of a Muslim stepfather, and his half-brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and he was sympathetic towards the Muslim agenda.
	And of course, Israel today is all over this.
	And they're freaking out about it.
	And you won't see much reporting of this in the lamestream media here in the United States.
	I just thought that was an interesting point to bring up when he's praying to God.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, there's a couple new...
	I don't want to bring it up, but there's a couple new birther things floating around.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, please do.
	I'm down with that.
	I didn't make a clip of it, but it's on YouTube.
	There's a guy that's apparently worked at the records office in Honolulu.
	Oh, yeah.
	I saw that a couple weeks ago.
	It's been out for a while, I think.
	Yeah, and he says, I'm not...
	The problem is you can't use the newspaper.
	Unless you can dig it up, unless somebody can find an old archive, I know exactly what the smoking gun is.
	And it's, you know, it's a possibility.
	But unless you can find an old, somebody has a collection of the Hawaii Sun, the Hawaiian, there's a couple of newspapers there.
	The Star, I think, is one of them, or Star Times Bulletin or something like that.
	They both, both the newspapers, of course, are done by the same publisher, had the birth announcement.
	And if somebody could find that, and there's documentation showing it, and so that's pretty good evidence as far as I'm concerned.
	But if somebody can show that that was planted after the fact.
	Right.
	Like, you know, five years ago or three years ago or in 2005, by finding a copy of the paper that doesn't have it.
	Because, you know, the CIA has been known to do stuff like that.
	Oh, a reprint?
	What does it take?
	Yeah, nothing.
	Nothing at all.
	Oh, yeah, reprints are done all the time.
	You go in there, you take the paper, you take all the copies from their own morgue.
	It's called a morgue.
	Oh, really?
	And you take the papers out, you replace them with a new one, which is aged and looks old, and then you leave, and that's the way it works.
	But unless somebody can find a copy of the paper that doesn't have it, Then I don't think there's an argument to be made.
	I think the rest of it is just a bunch of...
	I don't even know why people are harping on it when Leslie can come up with that.
	That's the smoking gun, and I don't see any evidence that it exists.
	Yeah, but that is also just a distraction, John.
	Okay, so what?
	So we've got the smoking gun.
	I mean, really, all these people, all tied up.
	We really just don't understand or can't...
	The lie is so big that we don't see how big the game is.
	Well, here's another big game thing which kind of came.
	I was watching, like I said, watching all the lefties this week and watching your friend, Tom Hartman.
	That's your friend, my friend.
	And I have a clip that has nothing to do with any of this, but it's just like, what?
	Okay, this is on trading?
	Yeah.
	Well, a few years ago on this program, we were treated to the spectacle, the fascinating ongoing spectacle, actually, of Congressman Brian Barrett, the Democrat from Washington State, who has kind of packed it in.
	He's not running for re-election this year.
	Discovering, virtually by accident, a member of his staff told him about it, that over in Tom DeLay's office, this was back when Tom DeLay was still in the House of Representatives, basically running the House of Representatives, that the staff members in DeLay's office were day trading, based on inside that the staff members in DeLay's office were day trading, based on inside information they had about legislation that
	So if they knew, for example, that a bill was going to be passed or even going to be introduced that was going to grant a billion dollar contract to Lockheed Martin, they'd buy a whole bunch of options to buy Lockheed Martin.
	They would bet on Lockheed Martin going up.
	And similarly, if Lockheed Martin was competing with Boeing, for example, for that contract, they would buy bets against Boeing.
	you.
	So Brian Baird looked into this, Congressman Brian Baird looked into it, discovered it was actually happening in Tom DeLay's office, that his office staff was making millions of dollars doing this, and that there was nothing illegal about it.
	Now when Martha Stewart tried to do this, she went to jail just for lying about it.
	If you or I tried to do this, we would go to jail, but there's nothing to prevent members of Congress from doing it.
	Brian Barrett several times has tried to introduce legislation to stop this process, this practice, rather, and it has not been stopped as of this date.
	Oh, totally.
	I mean, I'll give you another example of the big game.
	So you know that a lot of the big Silicon Valley venture capital firms, of course, all this money is running through them, and everyone's involved with each other.
	Billions.
	Maybe.
	It must broach trillions, really.
	But let's just say billions.
	So I get this email from one of our producers, Zach.
	And he sends me...
	I don't think he even realized how right on point he was.
	I remember we were talking about bracelets.
	We'll have a bracelet for everything.
	So when you're sitting on your ass, an alarm bell will go off and the federales will show up, tell you to get off your ass, slave.
	So he sends me this Silicon Valley venture-backed firm called Fitbit.
	And Fitbit is a bracelet that you wear.
	And Fitbit automatically tracks your fitness and sleep.
	Did I get enough exercise today?
	How many calories did I burn?
	Am I getting good rest?
	Learn more.
	Purchase $99.
	So this is...
	Seemingly, you know, innocuous little company, although it started by some serial entrepreneurs, and the backers are True Ventures and SoftTech.
	SoftTech, I think, is pretty big, right?
	I think they're a reasonably large firm.
	But it fits in perfectly.
	With the Codex Alimentarius ruling that the president just handed down.
	Because it's all about preventative measures.
	And you look at this Fitbit stuff, it's like, you know, prevent illness.
	So these guys...
	I'm trying to tie this together by saying that these guys know...
	And they clearly already knew, just like before green came out, all these guys had their green funds already ready.
	They're on the inside.
	They know that this is coming out.
	They know the legislation is coming down the pike.
	Either they knew their lobbyist connections or whatever, but they know what's happening.
	And they start investing in companies that are going to make them billions of dollars.
	Because the government will...
	Somehow, there's going to be some kind of rule or regulation that you have to be healthy.
	And you might as well start selling shit that makes people healthy.
	Actually, that sounds pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Why don't people have to, what is it with people that have to, you know, I want to put a device on me so I know exactly how many hours sleep I'm getting and whether I'm, you know, walking enough and all these metrics.
	I mean, why don't you just live your life?
	What do you need all these metrics about everything you do?
	I find people like that to be extremely boring.
	Well, it's being shoved down our throats.
	And the American people are really, really gullible when it comes to that stuff.
	But it's not bad.
	I mean, it's not bad to be educated about living healthy and eating healthy.
	And that's certainly good.
	But when it comes to...
	Yeah, but you have to be obsessed.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	So this is part of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee.
	Remember I read you that executive order the President came out with, which is all about that sitting down?
	That is essentially our version of the Codex.
	I can't fully grasp why this stuff even exists.
	So this was the executive order establishing the National Prevention, Health Promotion and Public Health Council, Starfleet Command of Your Body, Section 6G. It contains specific plans to ensure that all prevention programs outside the Department of Health and Human Services are based on the science-based guidelines developed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under Subsection D of this section,
	which is all a part of Section 4100 of the Health Care Act.
	Where it specifically states that this council needs to be called to order.
	And who is in the council?
	Surgeon General, Secretary of Agriculture, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Homeland Security, Administrator of Environmental Protection Agency, Chair of the Federal Trade Commission, Director of National Drug Control Policy, And, of course, the Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Indian Affairs.
	Let's make no mistake.
	Well, just in case they want to open a casino.
	But, yeah, this is the dietary guidelines, and a part of that, and this is now being propagated everywhere, because the council has only just been announced, and already they have the dietary guidelines, composed of 13 nutrition experts...
	And you are not allowed to have any more than a teaspoon of salt a day, John.
	That is your limit.
	Really?
	What if I live in the Arizona desert?
	No, forget about it.
	Among the recommendations, Americans should consume no more than 1,500 milligrams of salt per day.
	Current guidelines...
	Doesn't this depend on the heat factor outside your house?
	No, no.
	Would you please shut up?
	The science is in!
	I'm sure that it would be in Arizona.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just trying to make you a good slave.
	The science is in.
	Also, children should be discouraged from drinking sugar-sweetened beverages because aspartame is good for you.
	It's laughable.
	And now it makes so much sense why Michelle Obama is in charge of the obesity task force.
	Yeah, well she's got other problems if she's going to do that, I'll tell you.
	So this is...
	No wonder she looks so grumpy.
	This is the government telling you what to do.
	So we have to mention a few people that gave us some money?
	Holy crap, yeah, do we ever.
	And I want to mention right now, starting with Ryan Lackey in London, Ontario, who gave us 87 bucks, and he says he donated 87 bucks for two reasons.
	June 17th is my 29th birthday, and by multiplying my age by the lucky number three, I'm hoping to accrue some good karma for the upcoming year to make it my best ever.
	Secondly, my last name is Lackey, and I need as much help as possible to break my association with slavery and servitude.
	Help me, Obi-Wan Dvorak.
	You're my only hope.
	Sorry.
	That was a little premature.
	All right, Ryan Lackey, happy birthday.
	It being your 29th birthday today, thank you for supporting the No Agenda show.
	And here's to hoping you shall no longer be associated with a slave who needs to shut up.
	We have another birthday boy, too.
	Oh.
	Why don't we go straight into it then?
	It's Alan Asaph is giving a happy birthday shout out to Brian Hill, whose birthday was two days ago on the 15th.
	So, happy birthday to you, Brian.
	And he also, what does he say here?
	He says that Brian needs to be de-douched as he's most likely a jabroni for not contributing.
	You've been de-douched.
	He's never contributed.
	Why are we de-douching him?
	He's a cis-admin, so that makes no sense either.
	Yeah.
	He's a CIS admin, hence the donation amount.
	No, he adds double nickels.
	Yeah, he's a minute man.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	I'm not seeing the connection.
	No, no.
	CIS admins are natural minute men.
	They need to come to our aid, you see, when the shit hits the fan.
	Exactly.
	John Martinez, Gilroy, California, 5555.
	Freehollowbooks.com.
	Freehollowbooks.com.
	Cab City, West Virginia, in a holler.
	And I'm going to order me one of their new hollow books.
	Now, freehollowbooks.com sent us, I got a nice Atlas Shrugged free hollow book.
	I got a cookbook.
	Yeah, but now he makes beautiful free hollow books for your iPad, which are really awesome.
	Yeah, we should mention what a free hollow book is.
	Yeah, it's a hollowed out book.
	But it's not free.
	Because you've got to buy them.
	What is the name?
	I don't know.
	But it's actually cool.
	As a kid, I don't know if you ever did that, but you take a razor blade and you cut through pages and pages of a book and then you put your condoms in there or something.
	Something important.
	Or your trinkets.
	And so essentially, he does this for you, but he does it with a treatment of the pages so that they're actually stiff and they kind of become...
	No, it's actually an outstanding product.
	It is.
	It's a great product.
	It looks just like a book.
	And I'm definitely going to pick me up one of those iPad follow books.
	Because you need a case for the iPad anyway.
	It's fun.
	It's a conversation starter.
	He said he's had a great response from our listeners, by the way, but he wants to call out Schrader and Shore as douchebags.
	Oops.
	Let me do that again.
	Oops.
	What happened there?
	Douchebag!
	That was bad.
	That was not a good douche.
	Bad douches, I'm sorry.
	Jeez.
	Then we have, well, we have Alan Asaf, who gave it two niggles on the dime.
	He's from Bristol, Virginia.
	We've got a lot of Virginia areas, folks.
	Veronica Roberts, Boise, Idaho, 5510, wants to call out Brian Brushwood for criticizing the show and thought you were great on Stern, 55, two niggles on the dime.
	C.G. Mayer, Mount Gambier, South Australia, 50-03 with no particular explanation.
	And what else?
	That's about it.
	Very light.
	So clearly we really need more support.
	We need a promotion.
	Yeah, I guess we do.
	We'd like to get more subscribers.
	And the thing is, I want to point out to people that, by the way, we're giving you 1, 2, 3, 4 hours a week times 4, 16, probably 18 hours a week of material for your entertainment pleasure.
	And it is a show for people that drive long distances in their cars or who might want to listen to this at work, which we recommend.
	But we like to get the subscriber base up.
	But one of the problems we keep having is that...
	And I keep soliciting people.
	A couple of guys have just said, you guys suck and I don't want to subscribe anymore.
	But most of them say, oh, I didn't know that my subscription had been pulled by PayPal.
	I changed my credit card.
	And this happens daily.
	And it's very annoying.
	And I want people just to check in once in a while with their PayPal account and see if it's actually being...
	Or look at your bill, you know, and see what's happening.
	Uh, yeah.
	Well...
	The only way we're going to...
	Did you get the note about the associate, the cook guy that's on Mevio that gave us a big plug?
	I make these recipes so that you don't have to.
	How many times have you gotten a recipe and made the recipe and the food was crap?
	I'm weeding all those out.
	You have no idea how many recipes I go through to bring you the best.
	So if you get any value out of this show at all, I ask you to go and donate to the No Agenda Show.
	You can listen to that show at noagendashow.com.
	And you can donate.
	Go and donate $5 in the name of Cooking with Blasman to NoAgendaShow.com or you can go to Dvorak.org slash NA and donate $5 in the name of Cooking with Blasman.
	They watch the news so that you don't have to.
	I cook the meals so that you don't have to.
	It's value for value.
	Donate $5 over there if you get anything out of this show at all.
	Thanks.
	That's the blast man.
	I highly appreciate him taking time out of his cooking show on Mevio to promote us.
	Now, you want him to be a PR associate, which is fine.
	Yeah, I think he did.
	That's more than most people do.
	It's not like he didn't mention your name, of course.
	So I hope you're not too perturbed at him.
	He didn't mention yours either.
	Is that okay?
	Yeah, you know, when you were on Leo's show and you did an In the Morning, you became PR associate.
	What do I get?
	Crap.
	I get crap for not mentioning you.
	Are you going to just obsess on these things?
	Yeah, probably.
	So, yeah, I do agree, though.
	We need more monthly subscribers.
	And now this was kind of predicted during the summer months.
	Everything goes down on the Internet.
	About 30%.
	I don't think 30% is typical.
	I would say it's probably half that normally.
	But we're definitely seeing the hurt.
	Well, we're down 30% easy.
	We're feeling the hurt for sure.
	But he said the right thing.
	He said the whole week we essentially got what we usually get in a day.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	So that's not good.
	No.
	Well, maybe people don't care.
	That's always possible.
	Maybe they just don't care.
	Maybe they don't care about the oil, or maybe we're talking about the wrong topics.
	Yeah, maybe we should be doing more Miley Cyrus.
	I don't know, it seems to be working for Joy Behar.
	Well, you know, I don't know what her numbers look like.
	I doubt if she has any audience at all.
	So, probably isn't working for her.
	No, I think she's got audience.
	She's probably got a couple million.
	She's up against, you know, good shows.
	I mean, she's not going to get much of an audience.
	No, she's got a couple million.
	No, she doesn't.
	If she has 40,000, it would be a miracle.
	Well, let's see.
	Ratings, Joy Behar.
	You're right.
	So half a million.
	She has that many?
	Yeah, 417,000.
	No, wait a minute.
	That was December 2009.
	Let me just see.
	Good for her.
	Double-digit growth.
	Hold on.
	You'd be amazed, John.
	To answer your question...
	CNN fails to stop fallen ratings.
	Everyone's having a fall in ratings.
	I mean, come on.
	She premiered at half a million.
	Yeah, well, everyone's curious What is it here?
	Ratings going up.
	17% Okay, I don't have any absolute numbers.
	Yeah, but I'll bet you it's somewhere around a million.
	No!
	Well, if it's a half a million, then...
	Well, if it's a half a million, it's more than we got.
	No, I think it's got to be about half a million.
	People love that.
	They love shows like that.
	People don't give a crap about what we do.
	Only the few people who are awake.
	Like, oh, yeah, well, yeah, that's possible that we could be lied to.
	No, I mean, if you really want the answer, no.
	You know who Joy Behar is taking numbers away from?
	No.
	According to the New York Times?
	No.
	Larry King on CNN. Yeah, that's another fine show.
	Well, see, that doesn't...
	Yeah, but Larry's about to spike his ratings because he's got the big all-star tribute to the Gulf Coast coming up.
	It was about time for one of those.
	Well, that's depressing.
	So the Federal Aviation Administration is now really getting frustrated because it is time to start issuing flying rights for drones for civilian and law enforcement functions.
	I'm not quite sure how that works, civilian and law enforcement functions.
	As the federales are saying, we need to have this.
	We need to have drones flying around America.
	Yeah, they're unarmed at first, and then pretty soon they'll load them up with guns.
	Yeah, totally.
	And missiles.
	Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has told lawmakers, safety concerns are behind the delays.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	So a Senate confirmation vote.
	Oh, wait, that's something else here.
	So they want to use the planes at the border initially.
	Right, and they're going to start with the Canadian border.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, seriously.
	Yeah, I believe you.
	I believe you.
	But it'll happen.
	They'll get them.
	And these drones come in all sizes, by the way.
	They'll be over Oakland within two years.
	They have drones that can fly into your window.
	Did you know that?
	Yeah, the little ones.
	Yeah, but like a slit in the window.
	They can like flip sideways.
	Well, I guess, yeah.
	Oh, I have video of that.
	It's amazing.
	It's amazing, I tell you.
	Yeah, but that, I don't know.
	Okay, I'm just saying.
	In a long distance, you know, remote control, I don't see how it is possible.
	Just the latency issues.
	The thing would crash through the window.
	Dude, we got moon bases.
	What are you talking about?
	Keep your windows closed, ladies and gentlemen.
	Keep them closed.
	If not for the foxes, then for the drones.
	I'd like to get one in the house.
	I'd smash it with a baseball bat and then I'd see what I was made out of.
	Take the camera.
	If it didn't zap you first.
	Imagine a drone flying in somebody's house and flying around.
	You know, there'd probably be like those in STOL type so it could like, you know, hover inside the house looking around for stuff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's about as creepy as anything we can come up with.
	So anyway, they're looking to pass that legislation.
	We really need to get that done.
	We need to have these drones.
	I mean, we need to have security for all of the terrorists running around.
	Terrorists, I tell you.
	The most emailed story this week, without a doubt, the trillions of dollars of minerals and lithium all of a sudden discovered in Afghanistan, which is just a big laugh.
	Wow, the New York Times, man.
	Is that the Ministry of Truth or what?
	Of course, this is like, we've known about these minerals in Afghanistan.
	We even talk about it on this show!
	About gold and gems and the lithium we didn't talk about.
	No, the lithium is just...
	I don't know what they brought that up just because it gets more attention.
	Well, no, no, no, no, no.
	I think the wording is very important.
	Actually, I got a little deconstruction of it here.
	It was not just lithium.
	They called it the Saudi Arabia of lithium.
	Yeah, the Saudi Arabia of lithium.
	That's beautiful.
	So here's from the article.
	So first of all...
	This article saying, well, there was no idea, no idea, far beyond any previously known reserves, enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy.
	Now, this could be used one of two ways, of course.
	Either it can be used to stay in Afghanistan, but I believe, John, as we were discussing on Sunday, that this could be used to get out of Afghanistan.
	Oh, these guys got plenty of money.
	Well, by the way, I've got two clips that indicate that one part of the government wants to stay And one part of the government wants to leave.
	Because it's obvious that the executive branch and the Congress has decided to leave, but for some reason I came up with a comment from your friend Gates.
	Could you please stop referring to assholes as my friend?
	Please do not call Tom Hartman or Robert Gates my friend.
	Robert Gates.
	He's not your friend?
	What do you have against the poor man?
	You should listen to these quotes before we go on about this thing, just to get a little perspective.
	There's two of them.
	I have Gates on Afghanistan 2, which I guess is the second one.
	I need the Leahy asks question, and it's obvious that Leahy again...
	Who is Leahy?
	Leahy.
	Yeah, who is Leahy?
	Leahy's the senator from Vermont.
	Okay.
	He's Patrick Leahy.
	He's the douchebag from Vermont.
	He has the agenda, which is to get out.
	And he's asking Gates about it, about why we just get out.
	Essentially, it's not what he says, but that's what he's implying.
	And I think we've had other clips before that kind of indicate that they're trying to speed up the process.
	And if you listen to Gates explain the situation, it sounds like something accelerated is going on.
	Leahy first?
	Yeah, Leahy.
	I mean, how do you see it?
	What is our...
	What is our endgame?
	Well, first of all, I think that one of the results of the very detailed analytical effort and policy consideration effort of the administration last fall was in fact to clarify our goals.
	And our goal is to ensure that Afghanistan is not a place from which attacks can be launched on the United States again.
	And in a nutshell, the strategy is to reverse the momentum of the Taliban, to deny them control of populated areas, to degrade their capabilities to the point where the Afghan security forces can take care of them.
	And the Afghans are ahead of pace in terms of building both the police and the army.
	We still are dealing with quality issues, but we are making headway.
	We are making progress on trainers.
	The percentage of trainers to trainees has gone from about 1 to 80 to about 1 to 30.
	And a lot of Afghans, you know, I read a lot in the press about corruption and so on and so forth, but the reality is there are ministers in Kabul doing their jobs, and there are Afghan soldiers and police out there who are dying in even greater numbers than we are fighting for their country.
	I've met a number of those ministers, and I have a great deal of confidence in them, but do you have confidence in the top leadership of the country?
	Yes, I do.
	I think that...
	Everything that I hear from my own, well, first of all, from my own conversations with President Karzai, I think that he is embracing his responsibility for this conflict in his country.
	His visit to Kandahar just a few days ago that the Admiral referred to was very important in terms of helping set the stage for the continuation of the campaign there.
	So I think that we have clear goals.
	I think, frankly, that the narrative over the last week or so, possibly because of the higher casualties and other factors, has been too negative.
	I think that we are regaining the initiative.
	I think that we are making headway.
	But the thing that I would say...
	Two other points I'd make, Senator.
	One is...
	People need to remember we have only been at this new strategy for about four and a half months.
	We don't even have all the surge troops in Afghanistan.
	Could I ask you on this before my time runs out, is the Leahy Law being implemented in both Afghanistan and Pakistan?
	We are working to ensure that the Leahy Law is being implemented in both places.
	And we could discuss it further with you in a close setting.
	What is the Leahy Law?
	The Leahy Law, you know, I don't know why you even brought it up, and in fact, I thought I clipped that off the end because it's a distraction.
	The Leahy Law is a law that ensures human rights, no human rights violations take place in Afghanistan and in Pakistan, so we don't go in and gun people down for no good reason and don't care.
	I don't know what the point of him bringing it up was.
	Okay.
	And then we have Gates.
	Now, what is he saying?
	Well, now, what you heard there was, you know, obviously we're trying to get out.
	These guys are going as fast as they can.
	They've kind of reset.
	I love the fact that we've only been there longer than any other war I've ever been, but it's only been for four months, really.
	Yeah, we've reset everything.
	It's a new strategy.
	Yeah, new strategy.
	So we've only been doing this for four months.
	So, okay, we haven't been in there for, what, a decade?
	We've been in there four months, essentially.
	And, you know, also, if you listen to the beginning of Gates' little diatribe, the guy is a bureaucrat.
	And is he CIA? Because he looks so much like a CIA guy.
	You think?
	You think?
	They all have that same pallor.
	All the guys that were probably there in Langley, there's a pallor and a hair color, which kind of looks like it's even...
	I don't know how you get your hair that white.
	But it looks...
	He just looks...
	So here we go with Gates.
	Just so you're not absolutely...
	So we're not...
	We're going to leave tomorrow.
	Gates served for 26 years in the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Council under George H.W. Bush as Director of Central Intelligence.
	Does that answer your question?
	I guess he must still be working for him.
	So just to make it clear that maybe the agency...
	Has some ulterior motives.
	...is keen on leaving right away because, well, you know, we have...
	It's their funding.
	We've got all the ducks in a row.
	This is where they get their money from.
	It's like, dude, we can't leave these poppies.
	That's how we finance taking out governments around the world.
	Are you nuts?
	Shut up, Leahy Slave!
	Shut up!
	So he makes this comment in here that I found very interesting because it was like, what?
	Are you kidding me?
	And I would just add one more point to the earlier point you made.
	There is no doubt that these wars have cost the United States and the American taxpayers a lot of money.
	As the chairman said at the outset, close to a trillion dollars.
	That said, in terms of our international...
	That said, we've been talking about this on email, about that transition.
	That said, in other words, fuck it, let me talk about something else right now.
	That said, in terms of our international competitiveness, in terms of our overall economy, it is worth keeping the perspective that at about 4 to 4.5% of GDP, we are spending less on defense than during any other...
	Hey, that's weird.
	Hold on.
	Hey.
	Did it crap out?
	Yeah, it's really weird.
	Let me try that again.
	Or did you crap out?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	That was weird.
	I can barely hear you.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Yeah, you're back.
	No, but all of a sudden that clip just stopped at the last seven seconds.
	Oh, it just stopped?
	No, I didn't.
	Let's try it again.
	...of GDP. We are spending less on defense than during any other wartime in our history, and it is a level that certainly is sustainable.
	What?!
	We're spending less, and it's certainly sustainable.
	Yeah, that means we could stay there for 50 years.
	Oh, that's mint.
	That's just beautiful.
	It was a jaw-dropper.
	One thing, if you remember, there's still clips out there of the guy who, when they first went into Iraq, the whole thing was like, well, it's going to cost us a couple billion and we'll be out in six months.
	And now we've been in these countries forever, and now it's running, so far it's run a trillion in the hole, a trillion dollars that could be...
	That could be used to fill the potholes on Highway 80 that's down the hill from where I live.
	So when I drive into the city, I am dodging potholes on an interstate freeway.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	There's a lot we could do with the money.
	I go across the San Francisco Bay Bridge.
	There's potholes everywhere.
	Let's get back into what this was about, about this Ministry of Truth article in the New York Times.
	Where now all of a sudden there's these vast mineral riches in Afghanistan, which we just kind of discovered, which is a total lie.
	And then we have, there's a new mining expert, General Petraeus.
	He's an expert now, John.
	Oh, by the way, you know Petraeus passed out.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	But I know the reason why.
	Yeah, I know why too.
	Let me finish my thought.
	You don't know why.
	Yes, I do.
	Mm-mm.
	Go on, finish your thought.
	I'll tell you why later.
	No, please.
	You're half the show.
	John C. Dvorak, everybody.
	And you're a big baby.
	So, it's because he leaned forward.
	His medals are too heavy.
	Yes.
	I know.
	I know your jokes.
	I don't need you on this show.
	I can just do your voice and we'll be fine.
	So there's stunning potential here, Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command, said in an interview on Saturday.
	There's a lot of ifs, of course, but I think potentially it's hugely significant.
	Petraeus now knows a lot about minerals.
	Instead of bringing peace, the newfound mineral wealth, according to this article, could lead the Taliban to battle even more fiercely to regain control of the country.
	Ugh.
	And apparently, the vast scale of Afghanistan's mineral wealth was discovered by a small team, an elite team, of Pentagon officials and American geologists.
	I mean, this whole article reeks of bull crap.
	Yeah, no, it's total bull crap.
	But they did mention the fact that the Russians had already discovered these minerals in the 80s.
	So...
	I mean, first of all, I don't think there's any...
	I mean, yeah, the administration wants to get out, but I think that the CIA, and particularly Gates, I mean, there's a reason why Gates is still there.
	You know, it's like, here's the meeting.
	Hey, Obama, listen.
	Gates is in.
	Otherwise, we blow your cover.
	Barry.
	Barry Sotero.
	So they've got the goods on him.
	It won't go away.
	And I think that it's a big bonanza.
	Well, I'll tell you this, if they don't get out of Afghanistan before the election, these guys are going to take a bath.
	Yeah, so we'll just bring in the next puppet.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	Yeah, well, I know, but he likes to be the puppet.
	It's a difference to him.
	Yeah, well, it doesn't matter.
	Just read the prompter and shut up.
	June 14th, according to Reuters, Iran is sending aid ships to blockaded Gaza.
	Did you hear about this one?
	I'm sorry?
	Iran is sending aid ships, i.e.
	a new flotilla, to the blockaded Gaza.
	Iran has ships?
	Iran has tons of ships, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they say that they're shipping off food and stuff like that that these people would need.
	But that has disaster written all over it, of course.
	And I don't think it was any coincidence.
	And this was so weird where Timmy Geithner, I know I mentioned earlier, Timmy Geithner just came out and had this whole thing.
	Did you know that Tim Geithner is the Secretary of the Treasury?
	But he did a little intro, and then immediately he has, what is the exact title of this guy?
	My God, these Iranian ships look like crap.
	Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
	So did you see that speech yesterday?
	No.
	Yeah, this was like, it slipped right in.
	And Timmy Geithner's like, okay, we're outlawing the banks, we're outlawing the oil and gas companies.
	Every single ship in Iran's national maritime carrier, more than 90 ship names, these are all terrorists.
	So this ship is on its way, and of course it's filled with terrorists.
	22 petroleum energy insurance companies, these are all new sanctions, by the way, that were announced.
	So it's heating up, and I think, just to kind of bring it all around to the oil cabal, they have to stop that new pipeline.
	So they've either got to...
	There could be something in Turkey that could happen, something in Austria, because a lot of this gas is coming through Austria, or, of course, Iran.
	And I think, although I've always kind of doubted that it would happen, this Iran thing just might heat up into something real.
	Maybe.
	And that would be the true reason, you know, oh, now we have to move from Afghanistan to Iran.
	That would be a possibility.
	But it is heating up, and this was no small matter that was announced yesterday.
	No small matter at all.
	22 petroleum energy insurance companies.
	All, you know, not allowed to do business with them anymore.
	Not allowed to, of course, doesn't mean that people won't.
	The people in Zug, in Zug, Switzerland...
	Well, since we're on this topic, because it's always fascinated me, there's this crazy story that's, there's two stories that are underreported.
	One of them I have a clip of on your, well, I'm not going to say your friend, but by that weird woman, Laura Flanders, who sounds, always sounds like Lyndon LaRouche.
	Who is she?
	She's the one who does Grit TV. You've seen her.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Play her clip.
	It's very strange.
	I don't know.
	It must be labeled something else.
	I think it's under two.
	Yeah, but...
	Let me find it.
	Weird Utah.
	Who are you?
	Utah.
	Sorry.
	Here we go.
	Utah.
	Utah.
	...cost of oil, about which more later.
	Let's start with that Utah report, Antonia.
	What do we know about what happened there?
	Because, forgive many of us, we haven't been seeing this front and center of our evening news.
	Yeah, it just happened this weekend, and actually we still don't know exactly what happened.
	Somehow, a quarter-sized hole was punctured into a massive Chevron oil pipeline that carries oil to its Salt Lake City refinery, and that hole has leaked 33,000 gallons so far of oil directly into this creek,
	which you saw, which ultimately feeds into major river areas, major water areas, We're all hearing
	about the failures of the federal response on the Gulf.
	What do we know about the response in Utah so far?
	The response in Utah so far is that we've got a lot of oil, and there's not a lot you can do about it.
	Oil is, of course, toxic.
	You can't really get it out of water.
	You can try.
	You can get some of it.
	This is seeping directly into groundwater.
	Chevron is definitely on top of it, probably more than they would have if the rest of these events weren't happening at the same time.
	But at the end of the day, what I think the whole country is learning is when oil goes into water, there isn't a lot that can be done.
	Alright, so there's an interesting point, a couple of points in here.
	One, of course, is assumed that Chevron wouldn't do as much if it wasn't for the big Gulf spill, which I thought was, you know, how does she know?
	But the other thing is, how do you get a quarter-sized hole in a pipe, big thick pipe?
	Well, it seems to me that someone with a.357 Magnum that was just goofing around in the middle of nowhere...
	Yeah, that's possible.
	Just take a shot at this thing, and a.357 Magnum, which can go through very thick steel, or a.44 Magnum, whatever rifle you want to use, pops a hole, and it would be about that size, and then the thing starts leaking, and then you go, oh my god, I didn't know that was going to happen, and then you take off, and now you've got a big oil spill, and now you have to ask yourself...
	Especially in the United States, where guys like to take their shotguns and drive around in the South and blow off signs.
	Stop signs and cans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans.
	I think this is the real reason that they want to get those drones in place.
	Oh, is to protect the pipelines.
	Yeah, because this is ridiculous.
	This guy shot...
	They won't even suggest this on the show because they can't talk about guns.
	But I can imagine some guy doing this.
	I mean, you're out in the middle of nowhere.
	What the fuck is...
	Oh, it's a pipeline and you got your big gun with you.
	You've been shooting at, you know, ducks.
	That's an excellent point.
	That is, you know, one of the biggest helicopter industries is pipeline protection.
	And just about every single chopper pilot I know has at one point in his...
	If a commercial pilot has at one point in his life done pipeline protection.
	You ever see a helicopter like probably at about 700 feet going really slow and then it'll go in one line and then it'll turn?
	And they're literally inspecting the pipelines from the air.
	It's very sophisticated.
	They have geo-mapping and all kinds of radar stuff.
	I suspect that these holes...
	Far more common, that's what you need, the people that should check up and down.
	Yeah.
	And zap them fuckers.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Get off of that pipeline!
	Get yourself away from the pipeline immediately.
	Okay, so now here's the story that nobody's covering, and I think it's the most interesting story, including the golf thing.
	This is an obscure kind of a blog called the Newspaper.com.
	Toll Road giant buys newspapers to silence critics.
	Australian Toll Road McGuire agreed Wednesday to purchase 40 local newspapers primarily in Texas and Oklahoma for $80 million.
	The Macquarie Bank is Australia's largest capital-raising firm and has invested billions in purchasing the roads in U.S., Canada, and the U.K. Most recently, the company joined with Sintra Consessions of Spain in a controversial 75-year lease of the 157-mile Indiana Toll Road.
	Now they're apparently involved in the Trans-Texas Corridor.
	Which will cost between $145 and $183 billion to construct a road expected to use up 1,200 feet wide.
	You know what we're talking about, that road that's going to go up to Canada from Mexico.
	Yeah, it's the Trans-America Corridor, whatever they're calling it.
	Yeah, the newspapers are the main communication tool for many rural Texan communities with many citizens at risk of losing their homes and farms through imminent domain.
	Many of the small papers purchased, most have a circulation of $5,000 or less.
	They paid a lot of money.
	Have been critical of the trans-Texas corridor.
	An article in the Bonham Journal, for example, states the toll roads will be under control of foreign investors, which more than frustrates Texans.
	So I'm surprised that this hasn't happened before.
	You buy up the newspapers.
	What do you mean it hasn't happened before?
	Who owns the New York Times?
	A Mexican billionaire.
	What are you talking about?
	Who owns the Wall Street Journal?
	Rupert Murdoch.
	Or are you being facetious?
	No, I was being stupid.
	So I was being blonde.
	So they buy up all these idiotic, or these little papers that are bitching and moaning, and now they're, you know, it's just like, and they've dropped 80 million on these little guys.
	It's like, yay, payday!
	Here, take the paper.
	The media would be on this.
	This is ridiculous that this is happening.
	What do you want me to write, sir?
	What should I say today?
	Oh, that's perfect.
	That's perfect.
	Nobody's covering this.
	No, of course not.
	And if you want it covered, then I would strongly support you supporting us.
	I was watching PBS, one of our national treasures, and they had, which I thought was going to be a really good show, like a 60s, what was the Ed Sullivan show?
	Yeah.
	And I was like, oh man, this is good.
	You know, they had all the classic performances from the Ed Sullivan show.
	And they'd show like two clips, and then some guy who wasn't born when the Ed Sullivan show was on is hosting with Paul Schaefer, who is hawking his book, and Jay Thomas, who was paid to do the voiceovers for these two clips in a row.
	And then they start like, you know, telling old stories which are just lame and doofus-y.
	And I'm like, you know, but it went on forever.
	I'm like, oh, please.
	You know, you can't fast-forward that, unfortunately, like you can with us.
	And it's like, please, please just go back to the Ed Sullivan show.
	And it's like, wow, man.
	You know, and selling DVDs for $150?
	Jesus Christ.
	Please, just give us $5 a month.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. We need all the help we can get.
	We're going to finish the show, by the way, with this long clip.
	Which you will find on there.
	Which I find, like I said earlier, to be the most interesting thing in terms of a package that Stewart's ever put together.
	Because the amount of research that must have gone into this to get speeches from Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan and Nixon and all these...
	These presidents from back when that are all saying the exact thing almost word for word, it's just to me, it was like, I don't know, the staff should have been called out on the show for doing such a great research job.
	Do we want to end it here?
	I don't know.
	I got nothing else.
	I got a couple things just to blaze through, just a couple of funny things if you want.
	Oh.
	Well, funny as in ha-ha or funny as in that's peculiar?
	Please check out the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com under the heading Demon Drink.
	As you know, what John righteously calls the neo-prohibitionists are at it again all over Gitmo Nation.
	Calls now in Gitmo Nation East for banning all drink driving.
	And of course it's not a good idea to drive after you've had a drink anyway, but why not just ban driving?
	Street alcoholics costing millions, trying to quit smoking.
	Well, the devil is in the drink from New Scientist.
	Great article.
	If you stop drinking, that'll help you stop smoking.
	Well, actually, that's true.
	Let me give you an interesting tip because a new scientist actually ran this exact same story about 25 years ago.
	But they had a little kicker on it.
	Apparently, if you go to a bar, a lot of smokers know this.
	They go to a bar, they have a few drinks, they feel like having a smoke.
	It turns out that if you take a Tums or any anti-acid pill, Rolaids, Tums, or Bicarb, that...
	Craving goes away.
	The craving for the smoke?
	I didn't bring that little factoid up again.
	The craving for the smoke, you mean?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Smoking like a true non-smoker.
	I'm just saying.
	I've always told people, hey, you know, I've got to have a drink, I've got to have a smoke.
	I said, take a Tums.
	I'd rather have the smoke.
	Well, you would.
	I'm talking about somebody trying to quit.
	Yeah, I'm not.
	For the many people who wrote in and called me a douchebag regarding the solar flares which are coming, yes, I'm well aware that there's a cycle of approximately 11 years of solar activity, and I'm aware of this since when I was 15 was the first cycle in my lifetime that I was aware of when actually ham radio conditions were outstanding.
	You get what's called skip.
	And on like 12 watts, I could, on the 11, and illegally on the 10-meter band, could talk all around the globe.
	I'm very aware of the cycle.
	However, when NASA comes out and says, beware, unprecedented levels of magnetic energy from solar flares as the sun wakens from its deep slumber are on the way.
	It could hit like a bolt of lightning.
	Catastrophic consequences for the world's health, emergency services, and national security – I think that's a little more than just a little bit of solar activity that is in a cycle.
	And NASA is predicting Armageddon, essentially.
	Yeah, well, that's NASA. Yeah, well, that's why I mentioned it.
	If you're playing lightweight stuff, let me play the Prius ad.
	I've never seen a Prius ad in my life.
	And I saw this one and had to record it because it's got a piece of information in here that I went, what?
	It can do that?
	It gets better gas mileage than any other car in America.
	It uses solar power to cool the interior.
	If you drift, it automatically brings you back into your lane.
	And right now Prius comes with two amazing offers.
	Get special 0% APR financing or a low Prius lease.
	Just $1.99 a month with only $19.99 due at signing.
	It's amazing.
	It's amazing!
	Hey, I didn't know that.
	Is that a new feature?
	If you drift, it automatically brings you back into your lane?
	It doesn't sound like much of a feature.
	I think I'll change lanes.
	No, you won't.
	Let me get over here.
	I'm going to hit this car.
	No, you have to hit the car.
	If you have a Prius, let me know how that works.
	This may be a new feature, John.
	I never heard of this.
	No, I've never heard of it.
	Let me have a Prius lane drift.
	Let's just look at that for a second.
	I've never heard of it.
	Oh, it's the lane keep assist.
	Here it is.
	Uh-huh.
	It's the 2010 Toyota Prius, John.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And that can't be the Prius, is it?
	Is that the new Prius?
	It looks like the old Prius.
	I'm looking at...
	There we go.
	Lane Keep Assist.
	It's got a heads-up display so you can watch the dashboard and...
	Look at the dashboard.
	No wonder you're going to drift into the lane.
	A camera that literally looks for lines painted on the road.
	And then what does it do?
	Oh, and then I guess it alerts you if you start to drift.
	Huh.
	Ah, they think of everything, those Japanese, don't they?
	Well, it alerts you, or the way it sounds in the commercials is that it actually adjusts you.
	If the LDW system thinks the driver is about to drift into another lane, it sounds a warning and nudges the steering wheel a little bit.
	Oh, okay.
	The LKA goes a step further, helping the driver stay in the lane with additional torque on the wheel.
	I don't like that idea.
	Ha!
	I don't like it at all.
	Although, if you're talking about these drunk drivers, it might be useful.
	What's funny is we need to paint some extra lines on the road.
	Oh, that would be, yeah.
	That's hilarious.
	No!
	How much extra torque is it?
	And for people who can't even keep their accelerators working freely and functionally, now they're taking control of my steering wheel?
	Yeah, the computer is taking control of the steering wheel.
	So you could probably, this to me seems to me, to be part of a system where you could not only take control of the accelerator and the braking system, but you could steer the car remotely.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Why even drive?
	This is the older way.
	This guy hasn't made his payment.
	I got him here on the camera.
	Let's just pull him over.
	Oh, perfect.
	Wow.
	When I get rid of something, oh, that guy drives a Prius.
	Well, we can kill him.
	Ready?
	Here comes an oncoming truck.
	So just one last story, and then we'll end the show and get to the Jon Stewart clip.
	So one of the anomalies of what I believe is more likely caused by HAARP. Than anything is these holes that we've been seeing in China.
	You know, these weird rings in the cloud layer.
	And they've been showing up often just before some catastrophic event.
	And of course I think these things are fake.
	Well...
	Have you seen one?
	No.
	And that's kind of funny because a big story being pushed in multiple media that this is caused by airplanes.
	Jet airplanes are punching holes in the cloud.
	So I guess that, you know, and this is happening in Australia.
	They've had a lot of these and it shows up on radar and it's like really weird, perfectly circular holes in the cloud layer.
	And so the story doesn't really add up to me.
	First of all, the reason why...
	So I said, no, I haven't seen them, and I've been flying in lots of jet aircraft, small and large.
	They say that when jet aircraft climb or descend under certain atmospheric conditions, they can inadvertently seed mid-level clouds and cause narrow bands or snow or rain to develop, but they can also punch holes or channels in the clouds, which have long fascinated the public.
	I'm thinking disinformation, standby, particularly when you get to the part that as far back as the 1940s, scientists have wondered about the causes of these clouds.
	What?
	Oh, really?
	And how many jet aircraft did we have flying in the 1940s?
	Well, there was a German jet fighter in 1945.
	Yeah, exactly.
	As far back as the 1940s, scientists have wondered...
	Well, this reminds me of a thing I just saw on a crawler the other day.
	The CIA... It says the CIA has just released some documents from the 1940s.
	Again, the 40s mentioned...
	And it was about the Korean War.
	In advance of the Korean War, we knew something was going on, but we didn't interpret it right.
	I'm saying the CIA released some of its documents from the 1940s.
	When was the CIA in business in the 1940s?
	Yeah, didn't they start in like 50, 52 or something like that?
	53, 52, something like that, Dallas.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	So what is the CIA doing with its documents from the 1940s?
	And why is it the 1940s again?
	There's an interesting coincidence that the 40s are being brought up.
	Hmm.
	Code.
	Yeah, it could be code.
	Well, it might have been the precursor OSS, I think, was...
	Yeah, it could be, but they could have said it that way.
	It was CIA documents, supposedly.
	Really?
	It's just been misreported.
	That's obviously...
	It happens.
	So anyway, this is kind of the reverse of the chemtrails are actually contrails.
	You know I have a strong belief in chemtrails.
	Yeah, I know.
	Why do you think that's so nuts?
	Because it's ridiculous.
	You think it's...
	Of all the things I say...
	You think the most ridiculous and the one you seem to be so adamantly opposed to is that there could be spraying of chemicals in the air.
	Why do you think that's crazy?
	Even though the upper atmosphere and what goods are going to do?
	It's not the upper atmosphere.
	John, it's at 5,000 to 10,000 feet.
	It's not upper atmosphere.
	These things are low.
	Yeah, I'm just telling you.
	There's no evidence.
	Okay.
	The only evidence is with people that are worse crackpots than you on websites.
	Well, no.
	The government has actually said they've done this.
	They've done it for weather modification.
	Yeah, but that's different.
	That's not from a regular jet passenger plane.
	Yeah, it is.
	No, not a jet passenger plane.
	I'm not saying jet passenger planes do it.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	They do see clouds that they used to.
	I think they stopped doing that in the 60s.
	Well, spend some time looking at the sky.
	I look at the sky all the time.
	And, yeah, well, just so you know, holes in the clouds caused by airplanes, John.
	The holes in the cloud thing is dubious, but at the same time, I haven't seen one of these effects, and you haven't seen one, and I don't know one of our listeners who's seen one.
	Yeah, I know lots of Gitmo Nation Down Under producers have sent me...
	Yeah, they've sent you pictures that they got from someone else.
	Okay, well, if the pictures are fake, then why would scientists come out and say, oh, well, these are caused by jet airplanes?
	I mean, that makes no sense.
	I think it's because if they keep seeing these pictures, they assume that they're real, like you do, and they've had to come up with some explanation because people keep pestering them.
	Have any of these scientists seen this formation?
	I don't know.
	Yes, scientists as far back as the late 40s have wondered about the causes of these clouds.
	See, it's just a bogus story from the get-go.
	Acoustic shockwaves produced by jets.
	There you go.
	And I do have a photo of one of an F-15 or something making one of these acoustic shock waves.
	And it's a real cool looking thing.
	It's this big circle around the plane.
	Yeah, it's not like a hole in the cloud layer.
	You've seen that.
	And I don't know how long it even lasts because it's just kind of a spectacular photo.
	Sometimes I really have to wonder about your motives.
	I really do.
	Of all the things, from earthquake machines to everything else to moon bases, You get almost angry when I talk about chemtrails.
	You almost get angry about it.
	It's the most feasible of all of my theories.
	Well, yeah, it's feasible.
	It's the most feasible.
	To assume it's going on and you're being dusted with lithium or whatever it is to placate the angry public, it just doesn't wash.
	I mean, the public's not placated.
	They're just dumb.
	And that's the educational system.
	It's got nothing to do with spraying them.
	And you don't think for a second that there are reasons why it could be done and why it's being done.
	I mean, you can't fathom that for a second.
	You can't get the parts per million up high enough.
	There's too much Gaussian dispersion.
	There's no way scientifically you could dope people up.
	It's just not possible.
	That shit doesn't come floating down to the ground?
	No, it gets dispersed.
	It's all over the place, and it probably never gets to the ground, at least where you'd want it to.
	Right, so if you do a lot of it, then eventually it does get to the ground, doesn't it?
	No.
	Wow.
	Wow, that's heavy, man.
	If a crop duster flew over at, you know, 500 feet and dumped a bunch of shit on me, yeah, you got me.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Well, I'm a believer in it, and I will say...
	Yeah, I know you are.
	I find it disappointing.
	And I'll send you some documentation, but the government admits they're doing it.
	And I've sent you that before, and what you do is you don't read it.
	I read everything you send me.
	Anyway, John, I apologize that I... No, no, no, I don't want to hear any more about it, so I just mentioned it, for God's sake.
	Can we...
	No, I want to...
	No, no, I need to clear my conscience.
	I apologize.
	I thought I was doing a good thing for the show.
	Can I just finish, please?
	Is it okay?
	I thought I was doing a good thing overall for the show.
	What I've learned from listening to Howard Stern for a long time is if he asks you, then you launch into something, but you let him lead the conversation at all times.
	And if he'd asked me about the show, of course, I would have told him about the show.
	You're right.
	Not mentioning Mevio wasn't oversight.
	That's just 4 o'clock in the morning.
	I did say in the morning, a couple times before the plug, the show in the morning, I did say that.
	I did not mean to come across as it being my show, only my show.
	Unfortunately, in this case, sometimes...
	It comes out that way.
	But it was not intentional.
	And I'm sorry that it bothered you so much.
	It didn't bother me that much.
	I just mentioned it.
	And I thought that you, well, if you had at any point during the show said, hey, you know, good promotion for the show, then it wouldn't have hurt so much.
	All right.
	We'll leave it at that.
	I handled it poorly.
	Unlike the Jon Stewart clip that advised everyone to listen.
	So we've gone well over time here.
	And we're going to go a little bit long.
	It's like eight minutes, this clip.
	Is it right to announce to the affiliates?
	Yeah, we're going over time.
	So your local news will be eight minutes late.
	And please consider supporting the show because apparently I won't have a job pretty soon since I forgot to mention the name of my company.
	You shouldn't...
	I got nothing to do with it.
	You should just apologize to Butler.
	Really?
	Wow.
	No, it goes like this.
	Are we shutting down?
	Is that what he said?
	Yeah.
	Something I don't know?
	Because I didn't mention the name Mevio?
	Yes.
	Oh, my God.
	All right.
	Well, no wonder I'm not a PR associate.
	Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation, West Indy People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, with John C. Dvorak, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's garbage day and the trains are going by loaded with lots and lots of containers today.
	A little more than usual.
	I think the economy's picking up.
	And there goes one now.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service right here on No Agenda.
	Welcome back to the studio.
	Obviously, beyond addressing the cleanup of the oil in the Gulf, President Obama's speech had a larger goal.
	For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered.
	Now is the moment for this generation to embark on a national mission to unleash America's innovation and seize control of our own destiny.
	I believe we can fly.
	Using non-petroleum-based technology or giant magnets or hamsters running simultaneously.
	Some other type of energy source that we haven't quite...
	Now is the moment to dramatically improve our environment and move beyond a petroleum-based economy.
	Unlike in 2006.
	This country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum-based economy, and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past.
	Yes!
	But see, back then, in 2006, we didn't do it.
	Because oil dependence had at that point only entangled us in two simultaneous wars.
	But now, it's gotten us into two wars and a giant spill.
	That's the push we needed.
	Although, I don't know, two wars and a giant spill, it's an awful lot to overcome and also do the get off the oil thing.
	You know, I wish we'd taken care of this energy problem ten years ago when there was no war and the economy was great.
	That would have been a great time to develop a long-term energy strategy.
	We need a long-term energy strategy to maximize conservation and maximize the development of alternative sources of energy.
	And we would have done it too!
	If he hadn't gotten distracted by that other spill.
	Which, I should add, also took five and a half miles of boom in the Navy to clean up.
	Mmm.
	Mmm.
	That's why they call him the big dog.
	If only the guy before Clinton had thought of this.
	There is no security for the United States in further dependence on foreign oil.
	Yes!
	And he would have done it too!
	If it hadn't been for these showing up...
	Ooh.
	Ooh.
	That thing could really tow the boat I don't have up the mountain I don't live near.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	I bet, I bet, wait!
	I bet the four guys before him would have gotten us off foreign oil, too, if they had thought of it.
	We will continue supportive research leading to development of new technologies and more independence from foreign oil.
	This intolerable dependence on foreign oil.
	New standby emergency programs to achieve the independence we want.
	We will break the back of the energy crisis.
	We will lay the foundation for our future capacity to meet America's energy needs from America's own resources.
	Fool me once.
	laughter Shame on you.
	Fool me twice.
	Shame on me.
	Fool me eight times.
	Am I a idiot?
	I must be an idiot!
	So counting Barack Obama, the last eight presidents have gone on television and promised to move us towards an energy-independent future.
	Before that, I'm sure they probably did it on radio.
	Well, why didn't it work?
	Why couldn't we do it?
	It's not like they didn't have good ideas.
	Wind turbines.
	Nuclear energy.
	Solar bank.
	Energy efficient windows.
	Energy efficient homes.
	Natural gas.
	Hydro.
	American coal.
	Solar power.
	Ethanol, not just from corn.
	Atomic power.
	Wood chips and stalks or switchgrass.
	Fuel cells.
	Natural gas.
	Zero emission coal-fired plants.
	Solar panels.
	Better batteries for hybrid and electric cars.
	Methanol.
	Ethanol.
	Plant products for gas or haul.
	Let's just use oil. - No.
	You know what?
	We have to.
	I will not allow the dinosaurs to have died in vain.
	So we had good ideas.
	And we're good people.
	We have the world's highest level of technology.
	We have the know-how.
	We have the ability.
	Our unyielding faith.
	Worthy of a great nation.
	We have the most skilled workforce.
	Our resilience.
	America is a rising nation.
	We are an unstoppable oil dependency breaking machine!
	Unfortunately, the machine runs on oil.
	But...
	This whole thing is maddening.
	Maybe we just need a deadline, hard and fast, like we did with the moon.
	In ten years, we will go to the moon.
	And in ten more years, be somewhat bored by doing so.
	We just need the president to lay out reasonable time parameters.
	At the end of this decade, in the year 1980...
	The United States will not be dependent on any other country for the energy we need.
	By 1985.
	By the year 2000.
	Within a matter of three or four years, if we'll just get after it and treat this like it's important.
	Another great goal.
	To replace more than 75% of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025.
	What?
	So Nixon says, let's get off foreign oil by 1980.
	Which somehow becomes, let's not use as much foreign oil by 2025.
	We've redefined success and still failed.
	Which brings us to perhaps the strangest aspect of this sad, some would say, Groundhog Day-ish saga.
	Of all these eight men of incalculable power who tried and failed to get us off of oil, one stands head and shoulders above the others as far as actually doing something for the environment.
	Who?
	I'll give you a hint.
	What's got four fingers and resigned in disgrace?
	This guy.
	He created the Environmental Protection Agency.
	He signed the Clean Water Act of 1972, the Marine Mammal Protection Act, when the Cuyahoga River was on fire in 1969.
	He put it out with his own urine.
	But even Nixon, even Nixon couldn't get us off oil.
	And this was a guy who, by the way, was not afraid to bend the rules to get things done.
	Couldn't get it done.
	Because you see, it turns out Nixon had one major flaw.
	No, not delusional paranoia coupled with living in an ethical netherworld.
	No!
	You know why Nixon couldn't get this done?
	We will establish a new system that makes high-quality health care available to every American in a dignified manner and at a price you can afford.
	Because Richard Nixon was a communist.

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