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June 21, 2010 - No Agenda
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210: Medical Marijuana
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That guy was a dick, that military guy.
Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, June 20th, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 210.
This is No Agenda.
Celebrating fatherhood around the globe.
And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And northern Silicon Valley here.
Trains are going by.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
In the morning to you, John.
In the morning to everybody out there.
Everybody, all human resources of Gitmo Nation worldwide.
All ships at sea.
Yes, indeed.
Particularly the ships at sea.
And happy Father's Day to you.
Yeah, it's another one of those bogus holidays we don't really celebrate.
You know, it's funny.
But still, I woke up this morning and I was like, I hope I get a message from my daughter.
I would be so disappointed if she didn't at least say it.
Right?
If you don't make a big deal out of it, they'll tend to forget.
I didn't make any deal out of it and she Twittered me.
That's nice.
Ooh, a Twitter.
Yeah, well that's a public sign of affection.
I like that.
That's nice.
This stream, by the way, on today's NoAgendaStream.com, apparently now banned in Ireland.
Oh, really?
Yep.
Why?
Hold on a second.
Let me call Ireland for a moment.
Someone must know.
Yeah, well that's how we found out.
Someone in the chat room said that they can't get through to NoAgendaStream.com and they're in Ireland.
So I'm presuming that we've been filtered out.
It's about time.
How would they even know we exist, let alone filter us?
I mean, it was not a porn, unless what are you doing on Daily Source Code?
Let me see.
We had Bobby Eden in the chat.
No, that was during No Agenda.
No, we had her in the chat room on Source Code, too, but I don't think that's it.
Was she somehow naked?
No, no.
Anyway, John...
Before we get started, I owe a number of people a huge apology, you being one of them, as on the last show I completely lost my shit and was projecting my own crap, and so I apologize to you.
I apologize to your kids, because they have a great dad, and your kids, of course, are absolutely brilliantly smart.
And I apologize to your wife.
And I apologize to the listeners.
I'm sorry.
Well, if I might make a mention of something.
Please.
I just...
It was kind of baffling to me.
But I can kind of understand some of the other issues you have.
But to attack my kids...
the baffling part because a you've met them both and they are extremely well-mannered polite they're actually some of the best kids you can imagine anyone can have they never get in trouble they're self-supervising they're responsible everything you want in in a kid is in these kids and uh to say that to to kind of condemn them uh i thought felt was vile to say the
And then to somehow, I also found it disturbing that you'd associate homeschooling with something negative, since it kind of violates some of the principles of the show that we do.
Well, it was a poor attempt at humor.
I was trying to get myself off of the bad track I was going down, and so I turned that into terrorism.
Again, I lost my shit, and I'm really sorry, because of course I didn't mean that.
There's also, by the way, a show etiquette that you violated, which is that when one of us gets boring and the other one calls them on it, you're supposed to stop.
Yes.
Well, I violated a number of etiquettes.
All right, well, we'll let it slide.
Are we good?
We'll let it slide.
Are we good?
Yeah, we're good to go.
All right, man.
Okay, so right off the bat, I have to tell you some horrible news that took place in California.
And a clear case of two to the head.
Thursday afternoon, 28-year-old inventor Tyson Larson was killed in an explosion that ripped a hole in the roof and blew out the back doors of a Simi Valley building.
Of his family's company, Realm Industries.
The guy was working on water fuel technology.
And he had built a...
He actually had investors.
Wasn't this supposed to go in the second half of the show?
No, I think I should put it in the first half of the show.
Because he was working with...
Well, some of the stuff that...
Remember my hydroxy booster that I had on the Jaguar with brown gas?
Creating hydrogen from electrolysis?
Right.
The process that doesn't work.
Well, I don't know.
All I know is I got 30% fuel efficiency on the Jaguar.
So this is pretty dangerous stuff.
I mean, all it takes is a good spark for it to blow up.
I guess if you're making enough of this stuff, and it's pretty simple to do, and there's aerial pictures in this report that's linked in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com.
The thing that is troubling, though, In this report, two people in the facility were uninjured.
One person was killed in the blast which blew a hole in the roof.
Initially, three were thought to have been injured.
It turns out that Tyson Larson himself was killed by blunt force, which I find interesting.
They're calling it blunt force.
Would a blast be blunt force?
I would never call it.
If you get blowed up...
It doesn't seem like blunt force, does it?
But here it is.
By coincidence, the Simi Valley Police SWAT team was just down the street on a training exercise when the explosion occurred.
And the officers were able to arrive on the scene within moments.
You know what?
Yeah, I know.
I don't know.
Do you have a link to this story?
Because you caught me completely off guard with this one.
I can't contribute anything.
Yes, I do.
This guy was doing what?
He was breaking water into oxygen and hydrogen with electricity to take and recombine it in a fuel cell?
Yes.
Correct.
Or an engine that burns hydrogen and then for some reason he accumulated so much hydrogen and oxygen in some container that the mixture blew up the whole house.
Yeah, blew up his workshop.
And he has like investors?
Yes, he has $7 million dollars.
Is it possible that the guy just blew himself up because he didn't know what he was doing?
I took $7 million and it's not working.
I might as well blow myself up.
I don't know.
The only thing I always find interesting is when, by coincidence, there's a SWAT team down the street.
Well, you know, later in the show when we start talking about SWAT teams, it turns out that this is not much of a coincidence.
Yeah, yeah.
I watched the show you told me to watch last night, so we definitely should talk about that.
The show we're talking about is Stossel.
Stossel is turned into a complete...
Overt, out-and-out, maxed-out libertarian.
Now, John Stossel, he was on, I think, WNBC in New York when I lived there, and he was always kind of the guy that did, like, the fluff pieces.
He did, uh...
He went to 2020.
Right.
And that's where he started being the guy who was going to stand up for the consumer, and they were fluff pieces.
They were these lightweight, you know, can you believe that they're charging a nickel at this place and a dime across the street?
Yeah.
Yeah, he reminds me of, what's the guy at the New York Times who does all the reviews and stuff, the technology stuff?
Pogue.
Yeah, he reminds me of David Pogue, exactly.
At least back then he did, and now it's something completely different.
Well, the Fox hired him, and then they relegated him to the weekends doing these specials with an audience, which is very unlike Fox.
I mean, it's more like the Colbert Report.
Well, hold on.
I mean, it's just a couple of bleachers with idiots off the street and a couple of shills.
I mean, it's nothing like the Colbert Report.
Okay, it's not a big audience.
You never see the whole audience at Colbert.
I don't know how big it is.
It's not as big as Letterman, which apparently has the biggest studio audience.
Anyway, the point is, he's got this...
I don't know what the point of the audience is, to be honest about it.
It's just to fill up the spots next to the shills that he has on the bleachers.
Because he has people who are invited into the show, and they don't get to sit on the panel.
They just sit in the bleachers.
So they need to fill it up with some homeless people or whatever is there.
So anyway, he comes on with this libertarian stuff that is actually very compelling.
I'm surprised Fox even allows it because you saw that special.
It was on legalization of drugs.
But before we go to that story, let's finish with the guy who got blowed up.
Okay.
I gave you the link, right?
You saw it by now?
Yeah, I'm looking at it now.
Explosion at California water fuel research company kills inventor.
Inventor is a big word.
I mean, this is not like some huge invention.
I don't know what he was inventing.
The explosion was likely to resolve an attempt to compress hydroxy gas.
Yeah, that's the brown gas.
That's the stuff that I was making.
And on my Jaguar, I just had a very little installation, and I had to have a blowback tube in case some spark would come back from the engine.
Highly unlikely, by the way, the way it was set up.
But in case something would blow back, then it would basically blow the top off of this blowback thing and wouldn't explode the actual canister.
The stuff does work.
I mean, it burns beautifully.
Brown's gas, it burns.
I mean, it's hydrogen, or a version of it.
It's hydrogen and oxygen.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, it should burn, but, you know, it takes more energy to make it than it produces.
Unless this guy's got something...
He's compressing Brown's gas.
Yeah, maybe that was the problem.
Maybe that's not such a good idea.
Well, it's going to heat up because all compression activity heats it up, so it just must have ignited.
Maybe he made a bomb.
Or maybe he...
I mean, the obvious...
The theory here is that he was on to something.
He had people interested, and they sent in the SWAT team to blow him up.
That's the part I don't like.
That is the part that just, you know, sure, shit happens.
People are messing around with what they call Joe Tubes and all kinds of stuff all the time, which is all highly explosive.
But then to have a SWAT team nearby, it's just one of those little coincidental things.
Coincidence?
I think not!
All right.
Well, the thing is, one of the themes for today's show is the legalization of drugs.
But before we go there, can I bring something, a clip in that might be more entertaining?
Yeah, do you want to do executive producer if we have one?
Oh yeah, we do actually.
We have an executive producer.
Nice, I'm glad we do.
You know, I opened the spreadsheet a second ago.
Great.
Anyway, hang on a second.
Yeah, no problem.
I'm bummed about spreadsheets.
I appreciate the work that Eric the Shield does, but just Excel by itself, just starting that whole program up.
I don't like...
My computer groans.
The other thing is that...
I think I've said this before.
Yeah, people use it for the craziest shit.
They use it for everything.
So our executive producer is Michael Thessig in Newmanstown, P.A. $200, executive producer, that's all we got.
And no comment.
Okay, well we appreciate that.
And I'd like to make mention of Dave Bryan, who...
Throws his hat into the ring for PR associate status.
Not quite there yet, but certainly an honorable mention for his new No Agenda producer project, noagendaentertainment.com.
It features a collection of links to all forms of multimedia related to No Agenda, books, videos, movies, and audio.
Also, guest appearances, which I hope would also include your CNBC appearances in the future, John, if you ever get invited back.
That seems unlikely.
We know you won't.
No, that was MSNBC. Same thing.
All other ways that No Agenda shows up in our real world.
Noagendaentertainment.com.
I think it's a beautiful looking site.
It's stunning.
It makes us look like a big entertainment conglomerate.
We should sell now.
While we're ahead of the game.
Alright, Michael Fessig, right?
Fessig, yeah.
Fessig, we completely appreciate your support, and as you know, as executive producer of No Agenda, you can put this on your resume.
It is an actual credit, and it has been known to be able to get you gigs, and in some cases, even get you laid.
A little greasy finger today.
Go on, propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Come on, human resources.
Shut up, Steve!
Oh, before I forget, John, before we get into drugs, I never thought I'd say that with you.
I went to see Toy Story 3 yesterday.
Oh, well now, okay, let me just, before you say anything, here's what I heard.
It's great.
I saw it in 3D, against my better judgment, as you know.
This is one of those Mickey's deals where she has, through the Screen Actors Guild, we get to go to the Directors Guild of America screening.
So it's really nice and pristine and the way you should see it.
The glasses suck.
Which kind of glasses?
Was this the polarizers or was this the notch filters?
You see, I don't know.
How can I tell?
Okay.
First of all, I wear glasses, so it's always shitty when you have to put the glasses over your glasses.
That's complicated.
They're supposed to be kind of made for it.
Were they heavy?
Yes.
Thick lenses.
Yes, thick.
Thick lenses.
That's the notch filter.
Yeah, I would have to agree.
So, now I still think it's like looking through a view master.
It has that quality because of the darkness, I think.
It's dark.
The image is dark.
Yep.
However, I will say, in this particular case, very, very functional.
The 3D was extremely functional for this type of animated movie.
And I have to say, I laughed.
I really liked the movie.
It's a great story.
And of course, like all good kid movies, it has a lot of adult jokes in there.
Particularly about Barbie and Malibu Ken.
And it was funny.
I enjoyed it from beginning to end, although when the scene gets a little bit darker, then the glasses start to give you a headache, and you see kind of spots, and it's weird.
But when it's really all lit up, I have to say, it was very functional.
As you know, I'm not a big 3D fan, and I didn't have any depth perception problems afterwards, as far as I can tell, except the fact that I keep hitting the wrong jingles this morning.
It could be related.
So, okay, you know, you were, last week, because the show was so ruined by a long diatribe, you didn't get to tell us about your experience in San Diego, which I think is necessary to the audience.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
So...
I had been ill for four or five days, and I was finally feeling a little bit better, and Mickey and I decided to go on a road trip to San Diego just to get out of the house and drive and stay somewhere and catch some fresh air.
actually talked to me about this beforehand so I could have some input because she wanted to find, you know, because she's not from California.
And I confirmed what she was thinking, which was to go to the Hotel Del Coronado, which is one of the most spectacular pieces of architecture on the West Coast.
And then Because I went there with my wife some time ago, we saw the haunted room and we did all the stuff there.
It was a little run down, but it was a good experience.
Yes.
Well, first of all, I think on that phone conversation you discussed with her how to poison me with bad oysters...
Don't lie.
She was talking about poisoning you, and I said probably the best way is with bad oysters.
Right, so Hotel Del Coronado.
Look, I'm only here for the hints and tips.
That's right.
Which is why she called you.
And she had indeed also found Hotel Del Coronado.
So we drive down.
By the way, for those of you in California, there's a toll road now, the 73 off the 405, which is $4.75.
It's well worth it.
It's just phenomenal.
It's like 20 lanes and there's no one on it.
You just cruise through the mountains.
It's great.
Or through the hills, I should say.
So we get there.
And I didn't think Hotel de Coronado was run down.
It looks like they might have done some renovation, actually.
It looked really nice.
It's one of these...
It was built in the late 1800s.
You can almost feel the ladies with parasols walking around.
It has a real good vibe.
It's right on the beach.
And...
But at check-in, we already noticed the biggest problem is that they have brought in just a slew of low-wage nincompoops to run this thing.
And this is a big complex.
I don't know how many rooms they have, but it's big.
And they've got new buildings off to the side, and they've got private little villas, and then, of course, the big house.
And, you know, it's just they got, like, millennials running the show, and I have to say, a lot of Mexicans.
Now, of course, it's close to Mexico, but just the service was atrocious.
You know, the keys were wrong, and it's a long walk back to the lobby.
I hate that.
Oh, boy, do I hate that.
And it was just because of the system.
They only have one card maker.
And it's funny because I came back and another guy's keys were wrong as well because he basically had my keys because, you know, if someone else hits the button on their terminal but yet someone else puts their card in first, you get the wrong key card.
Stupid.
And, you know, so that was, you know, like, all right.
And then the bags didn't show up and, you know, we called and I had to go back.
And they were sitting there.
They were just sitting there.
Ready to be stolen.
Yeah, well, not being brought to my room.
So, yeah, this is not a cheap room, like $400 a night.
It's not cheap.
That was too high.
It's ridiculous.
That was the cheapest room available.
It's ridiculous.
Why are these hotel rooms all over the country so expensive?
And we looked online, and online it was like, oh, here's a great deal, $700.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, you must have had a big, giant suite then.
No.
No, it was just a normal room with a little balcony.
That was nice.
A Vegas room, you would have had a suite for that kind of money.
In Reno, you go with that kind of money, you get a floor.
So, here's the thing that's really weird.
So, we had dinner now.
It was a Monday night, so the Ocean 1500 restaurant is closed on Monday night.
So, we had to, you know, there's a restaurant right next door.
Both restaurants run by the hotel.
Food, very marginal.
You know, it's okay.
Service, atrocious.
You know, I love it when someone just, you know, like some guy comes out of the kitchen.
He's basically still wearing his cook's outfit.
And he's just like, oh, here's your food.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like they're reaching all the way past me.
Completely no etiquette at all.
But two things.
One, we felt the earthquake, which was later registered at 5.7 on the bogus scale, whatever it is these days, which was exactly on the same meridian as San Diego.
And that was weird because we were sitting outside and it was really like a real slow moving back and forth.
And that was probably the most intense earthquake I've ever felt.
Yeah, it's a classic Southern California style earthquake.
I've been down there for two of them.
Yeah, a real roller.
Yeah, they roll.
It's very pleasant, actually.
But here's the problem.
So you have this beautiful hotel on this beautiful beach, which, by the way, is very special because it has gold flakes, which is mica.
If you go down to Baja, California, all the beaches down through Ensenada are all flecked with gold.
So it's beautiful.
You just feel like you're in a gold mine, literally.
Were it not for the fact that this beach is exactly on the approach path for the naval base there, And I kid you not, from 9 a.m.
to 9 p.m., and actually there was one, the last straggler, around 10 p.m., they are flying over the beach at a frequency of one flight every three minutes.
And it is Black Hawk helicopters, big 737s, 767s, unmarked, I might add, completely white.
These must have been the rendition flights.
Learjets, all kinds of civilian aircraft.
This is going into what airport?
No, it's going into the naval base.
There's a naval base.
Why is there so much activity at the San Diego naval base?
Well, this is the question.
Now, I saw the Learjet did about 20 go-arounds, so they were clearly practicing approaches.
But all of these helicopters, I mean, just every three minutes, and helicopters, you know, these Blackhawks, they're loud, and they come over like 700, 800 feet over the beach, and every three minutes, And then there was a huge aircraft carrier right in front of the hotel, and every hour or so an F-16 would take off or something equivalent to that, and it completely ruined it.
The whole thing is ruined.
And I said to this dorky hotel staff, I said, you know, what's up with that?
I said, yeah, yeah, you know, they're really busy.
So what are they doing?
I don't know.
And, of course, I crack a joke.
say, oh, you know, they're flying all the drugs in from Mexico, and the guy says, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's military.
I said, yeah, that's my point, dude.
He didn't get the joke.
Not a listener.
It's probably not a joke.
Yeah.
But it was just, it's just nonstop, John.
Nonstop.
I have no idea what they're doing.
I mean, so I could tell one training exercise, the Learjet doing the approaches, But all the other ones, I have no idea.
And it was from 9 a.m.
to 9 p.m.
Every three minutes.
And, you know, people are like, oh, I don't hear it anymore.
Yeah, well, I'm here for my rest and for peace.
And you've stayed there.
This wasn't taking place.
When were you there?
How long ago?
Were we at war?
It was a decade.
I don't know.
Ten years ago, five years ago.
We were at war then.
No, it was before the war then.
It was before 9-11.
Oh, okay.
And there was nothing going on.
Especially not something every three minutes.
Unbelievable activity.
Especially helicopters.
Those are the most annoying products flying around.
They shouldn't even be...
Why are they even there?
I don't know, man.
And I don't know what they're doing.
Is it a training place where everybody has to keep...
I mean, is San Diego a training facility?
Seems odd.
Well, I know that when you drive down, you pass by this huge naval base, which is all fenced off with big radar installations, and that's what they're landing on.
And the approach, you can literally stand on the beach and you can see them.
Well, you can't actually see the landing strip, but you can see the whole glide path and they land.
But the crazy thing is all these big unmarked jets.
Completely white.
Not even Air Force.
They did have a tail number.
Tail numbers?
Yeah, unreadable.
So not on the tail, but like right above the engine.
Unreadable with the naked eye, but no military markings, but completely white.
Filled with, I'm sure, Gitmo passengers.
Yeah, I had, if you remember, I was at Seattle once, and a big giant 747 came in that was unpainted on white.
Yeah, that was a Chinese air.
And it turned out to be a Chinese, China air, and they're just too cheap.
Now, these definitely had end markings.
But, oh really, but the thing is, you couldn't see the, I had a, I have a camera that I had with me at the time, it has like a 20x zoom on it, and I actually zoomed in on the, On the tail number.
So you should carry it.
What I'm saying is you should have a camera with a big zoom lens on it.
We had it, but we didn't have it at dinner when it really got annoying.
Miramar Marine Base is what I'm reading in the chat room.
Does that make sense?
Miramar Marine Base?
Miramar Marine Base, yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Sounds right.
Anyway, it ruined it.
I think the hotel is ruined.
So the Marines are just going in and going crazy over there.
And to add insult to injury, someone had already actually reserved and checked into the haunted room, so we couldn't check it out.
Someone had requested it specifically, so we couldn't go in.
I don't know why anyone would want to sleep in a room.
No, apparently people reserve it specifically.
They want to stay in the haunted room.
Because we went up and said, hey, can we see the haunted room?
And then people want to, shh, shh, be quiet.
Go sit over there.
We'll come over in a minute.
It's like, what?
It's like, well, we can't show you because someone's checked into it right now.
But ixnay on the haunted hay.
It's a feature.
Then they play it well.
Yeah, I guess.
So that sucked.
It didn't suck because at the end of the day, it was nice to get out.
We had a nice drive.
And it was okay.
But the noise was...
It just ruined it.
Completely ruined it.
Not your fault, but...
Buy or be warned.
Yeah, well, that's the last time I recommend that place.
Now I don't know what to tell you.
Just keep driving.
Go down to Mexico, man.
So here's a disturbing story, talking about Mexicans, or in this case Hispanics, which is more broad-based.
Did you get this, did anyone send you this, this vote system?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this actually showed up last week.
This is the New York Township, isn't that it?
A court-ordered election allowed the residents of one New York town to flip the lever six times for one candidate and produce that a Hispanic winner could expand to other towns where minorities complain that their voices aren't being heard.
By the way, this is Port Chester, which is, isn't that near Westchester?
I mean, isn't this kind of up there in hedge fund land?
Port Chester?
I didn't know there was a lot of...
It might be.
It sounds like it is.
It's up near Rye and all that?
I'd have to open up Google Maps to see.
So the way I understood this idea, Is that the court ordered a change in the electoral process because there is such a minority, the Hispanic population is in such a minority, and correct me if I'm wrong, that...
Were Hispanics allowed to flip the lever six times?
No, everybody could do this.
Everybody can flip the lever six times, thereby somehow, through some crazy math, making it more fair to everybody.
I don't get it.
I mean, what difference is it?
Don't you just divide everything by six?
Doesn't it equal the same thing?
Well, no.
If you have a slate...
them is a minority that, let's say, nobody likes, except the minorities.
Right.
And the minorities, instead of voting for the slate, you know, say there's 10 people on the slate and you can vote for six of them because it's going to be the city council.
Right.
So you would normally take the ballot and you'd vote for the six people or just none of them or whatever you wanted to, one at a time.
And then the top vote getters would be the guys in.
But then they've decided that it's fair to give you six votes because you actually are voting six times, but it's never been thought you could vote for the same person six times.
That's what I would do.
I mean, that's so obvious.
Of course that's what you would do, especially if you're a minority.
Let's say some group in some, you know, essentially gets your guy in, and it may be disproportional.
I mean, I think that's the problem, is that you have...
You know, six candidates and you have a pretty, you know, a makeup of a community of, let's say, six different ethnic groups.
And one group that just has very few people and you have a candidate that they all vote for six times.
I mean, the whole thing is asking for trouble.
And apparently it worked though, right?
Well, I got the guy in.
Yeah.
Luis Marino?
Yeah, Peruvian immigrant.
Hmm.
Making him Port Chester's first Hispanic trustee.
You make it sound like a bad thing.
It is a bad thing.
Well, this is, in a way, it's kind of like...
It sounds like they're giving me a box of votes.
I have a vote.
I can vote for this guy or that guy.
If I like Marino, I vote for him.
I don't vote for him six times.
It's like stuff in the ballot box.
What's the difference?
This is, in a way, it kind of falls in line with the whole filibuster thing, which, of course, is always a point of contention, where, of course, we have a republic, but in the democratic process, you know, 50...
If plus one should win the vote, but because minorities need to be heard, and I heard this explained on some, it was probably on C-SPAN, of course the Senate could change this whenever they wanted to, but they don't because they use it to their advantage when they're at a disadvantage.
so that's why you have to have the 60 votes.
But it's exactly for kind of the same reason, is to give the smaller, so that the majority doesn't always win, that the minority has some kind of fighting chance.
And how did they come up with six?
I mean, is that based upon the population?
No, I think it was based on the ballot.
They apparently were going to vote six times in this.
It's like pick six.
You've seen this on ballots.
It says candidates for, I guess, some trusteeship.
Vote for six.
So you vote for six people, but you don't vote for one person six times.
I mean, that's weird.
Cumulative voting.
Yeah, and that's going to, you watch it catch on.
Yeah, no, I bet.
Oh, yeah.
But it'll be, all of a sudden it'll be, you're just going to get, here's the way it's going to go, or it could.
Yeah, you've got to divide your public up with 25% this group and 40% that group and 10% of this small group.
Or 5%.
And you say, well, you know, it's unfair to these 5%, this little group.
Let's give them, to make everything even, because we can't, you know...
It's unfair.
It's so unfair.
It's unfair to them that you have 40%, let's say, of the population white, and let's say 1% of the population Arabic.
So let's give every one of those Arabic people 40 votes.
And that evens things out.
And what could be more fair than that?
It's not fair.
No, it's totally fair.
These people now have the voice that's equal to that of the white majority.
Isn't that just...
It's actually not even a white majority.
They don't even have...
Let's say in California it'll be 55% Hispanic.
Really?
I mean, we're in the minority.
We've got to get this to go through something.
Yeah, we need it quickly.
This is actually a brilliant idea.
We need this.
I mean, that's essentially what it sounds like to me.
It's a scam, you know, so everyone's happy.
I mean, this is bullshit.
Yeah, it's...
It just seems like something that...
There's obviously a really good argument behind it.
A logical, debatable argument that is probably very compelling.
Yeah, if you're in the minority...
Well, it could happen to anybody.
And meanwhile, a Gitmo Nation lowland still doesn't have a government as far as I know.
They're still fighting about the coalition.
Oh, what's taking them so long?
Well, Geert Wilders is the problem, of course.
I mean, you had the right-leaning party with 31% of the vote, the left-leaning party with 30% of the vote, and Geert Wilders, which of course would be considered, I guess, extreme right, with 25 or 26% of the vote, and no one wants to work together.
And then the Christian Democrats are kind of the wild card who've been running the country for the past eight years.
And although they lost like half of their possible parliamentary seats, they still have like 20% of the vote, and they don't want to work with anybody.
So the country is basically rudderless right now.
It's probably never done so well.
Well, it doesn't matter because no one cares.
I look at the newspapers every day online and it's all World Cup.
It's all Vuvuzela.
That's all anyone can talk about is, oh, turn off the horns.
Oh, the horns are bothering me.
What should be bothering you is the fact that your government robbed you blind, is going to make you work longer, slave, and is taking away all of your benefits to pay off the bankers.
That's what should be worrying you.
No.
Hey, we won against Japan.
Big deal.
Do people not realize that all organized sports are rigged?
I mean, let's be honest about it.
I mean, come on.
There's so much money.
You can't tell me that with all the money that's rolling around in World Cup soccer that it's not fixed.
I mean, the guy, was the German guy who resigned just before the 2010 Cup started?
Yeah, there was that, and then there's the rigged game with the United States and Slovenia, where they didn't I mean, if you think about it, you have, especially in Africa, where...
One time when I was in Kenya, we were going through Kenya, which is a horrible place, and the airport especially.
I mean, there were literally soldiers in the terminal, because they had to stop for refueling or something.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
So they stopped the night where everybody got out of the plane.
Somebody stole my...
I left some audio cassettes.
This was a while ago when I was still flying around with audio cassettes.
Somebody stole them.
And I pointed this out and they finally caught the guy, something, before we took off.
But I got a lecture from them.
You know, one of these audio cassettes is like worth a month's salary to these people.
You have to be more careful with your stuff.
Don't steal my shit.
And then, but meanwhile, in the terminal, a bunch of soldiers from the army were in there shaking down some of the people that were on the plane.
Of course.
Shaking them down.
They were standing around.
We looked and said, we've got to get back on this plane.
This group of soldiers, it was like kind of, they surround somebody, you know, not with guns drawn, but carrying a bunch of arms.
Intimidating, yeah.
Shake them down.
They say, we need some money from you, you know what I mean?
What are you taking money from me?
Basically, you emptied the guy's wallet.
Let me give you a quick rundown here.
Actually, I could go back to 95.
Three top UK soccer players, I'll just say soccer, were charged with taking bribes to rig results between 91 and 95.
This included the Zimbabwe goalie, John Fashanu, Aston Villa striker Hans Segers, The goalie is the guy.
Well, of course he's the guy.
Then we have...
That's the money position.
You want to make money in soccer, become a goalie and sell out.
2005 in Germany, a 2 million euro match-fixing scandal was uncovered.
That was the ref, who later confessed to fixing and betting on matches.
Numerous players, coaches, and officials were accused of involvement with an organized crime group in the scheme, which came on the eve of Germany, playing host to the 2006 World Cup.
In 2005, in Brazil, football match-fixing was denounced because it was so rampant.
In 2008, in Portugal, Porto president...
Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa stood trial for allegedly bribing a ref before the Portuguese Premier League match.
May 2010, the head of the English Football Association, Lord Treisman, resigned his post, citing he thought that the World Cup matches were in danger of being fixed.
Link in the show notes of that story.
And of course, we just might want to point out that the guys who own some of the...
The clubs, which of course send their national players to these World Cup games, are owned by Russians, oil oligarchs.
I mean, come on!
And then we all just sit there and say, yay, good match, guys!
Give me a break.
Yeah, there's been two or three incidents in this World Cup already that are dubious, and a lot of them involve the goalie.
He wouldn't normally have made that play.
Oh, I can't believe it!
Let the goal go in!
Yeah.
He went left when he should have went right.
He's never done that before.
You had an interesting thing about...
Because, of course, the Lakers won the...
What do you call that?
The league?
The NBA championships.
And we were having dinner at the Eurotrash restaurant on Sunset, Le Petit Four.
And this town goes crazy.
And what's interesting is it's like Bentleys, Rolls Royces, Jaguars.
On fire.
No, no, not on sunset.
With flags, you know, in their windows, and everyone's honking, everyone's going, yay, Knickers won, Knickers won.
But then you see what happens in downtown LA, and it baffles me.
When the Lakers win, people go and cause fires and stomp on cars.
I don't get it.
You saw that video, right?
Yeah, the video was...
By the way, the reporting on Los Angeles news media was exactly the opposite.
It was, well, it was a really calm night.
Nothing happened.
It was, you know, the police did a good job.
It was pandemonium.
Pandemonium!
What is that?
Yeah, the video's on the blog for people who want to look it up.
It's just a bunch of punks that don't even...
Yeah, these are Laker fans.
These people have never even been to a game.
They don't even know what basketball is.
It's just an opportunity to wreck the place.
I think that we're overdue, to be honest about it.
And I think everyone out there should be concerned about this.
For some serious rioting in this country.
It's a cyclical thing.
It happens on a pretty routine basis.
And Los Angeles is rife.
It's ready to go.
I think it's the next Detroit, which happened in the late 60s in some of these...
You know, some of these ghettoized areas.
And Los Angeles has got all the potential in the world to just go up in flames.
In fact, they did during the Rodney King thing, which is just the tip of the iceberg for the kind of pent-up hostility that exists down in Los Angeles.
And a friend of mine had a photo studio, knew everybody, you know, in one part of town where, you know, he knew all the neighbors, everybody was friendly, and they burnt his place to the ground.
And it's just, you know, it's a bad scene.
And something's going to happen.
If they go crazy like this over the Lakers winning...
Yeah, I know.
Imagine if they had lost.
Well, and when I look at the video...
I just see a bunch of people who are completely frustrated about life or something, just life in general, or maybe being slaves or whatever it is.
And by the way, if you do that video, most of the people were young adults.
They were mostly Hispanic or actually Mexicans or Latinos, I'd say.
That's a better word.
And there was a bunch of Mexican flags being flown all over the place in celebration of them kicking the crap out of some junction box owned by AT&T. I mean, it just seems, you know, I'm telling you, this is going to be a nasty situation.
Well, the same thing happened.
I think Mexico won a game in the World Cup, and same thing.
Mexican flags out on the street, people causing a ruckus and breaking shit and kicking mailboxes and junction boxes.
It's weird.
And I think it's just pent-up anger and frustration.
And then they get some kind of...
Somehow they think they have a free pass and they celebrate...
What?
They do have a free pass.
None of those guys ever get arrested.
That's true.
In fact, the report literally said no one was arrested.
Yeah.
You're right.
So it's a free pass.
I mean, if you're a part of this group, the posting is called Idiotic Lakers Fanatics Riot in L.A. If you're a part of this group and you know you can do this insofar as parties are concerned, this is one heck of a party.
It looks like if you're not accidentally targeted and beating the crap out of you, if you're part of the group, it looks like you're having a lot of fun.
You know, just busting windows wrecking the place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you don't get, there's no consequence.
Nobody does anything about it.
And, hey, just look for the next opportunity.
I mean, I just, you know, if they would do something, the L.A. is, I don't know what their problem is down there, but it's a terrible place.
So what is the cycle, John?
What is the, how many years are we on?
When were the...
There's a 20 and a 40 year cycle for rioting and...
This is documented somewhere?
Yeah.
You can look at the big riots, but the last big riots were in the late 60s.
No, no, no, wait a minute.
The really great big monster riots were at the 50-year mark.
This is like the Yellowstone cycle.
We're overdue.
So we had the Watts riots, and then we had the Rodney King riot.
You're saying that wasn't big?
The Rodney King riot may have qualified as the riot in the cycle, but that was long enough ago.
The next cycle might be shorter.
If whatever the case is, there's a riot, there's a riot.
It seems to me there's a riot waiting to happen.
There's a riot coming.
I've really got to get me that generator.
That along with the space storms, we're going to be without power and fucked.
At least I'm up here on the hill and you won't be able to go down.
No, that's good because I can roll shit down onto people.
No one can come up.
It's like boiling oil, you know, all kinds of stuff.
It's better to be up in the hills there.
That area that you're in is probably immune to the riots.
Unless, you know, they just take over the whole place and kill everyone.
Well, I got John Legend as a neighbor.
He can just shred his guitar.
You can turn the place into a riot party house.
Yeah.
No, I'm very happy I'm up here.
I can see him walking out with your coffee machine now.
Hey!
Hey!
I got it, man!
I got it!
Meanwhile, if you want to talk about Mexicans...
...to send troops.
Sheriff Paul Babius says Mexican drug cartels now control parts of Arizona all the way up to Metro Phoenix.
ABC 15's Marie Ellen Resendez has his plea.
...to send troops.
A 911 distress call from two men shot in what investigators say is part of an ongoing battle between Mexican drug cartels and what is now known as the smuggling corridor.
Drug cartels control this area.
And this is unacceptable.
And local law enforcement cannot handle and stop this on our own.
Binal County Sheriff Paul Babu says drug violence is far past the border, spilling into the communities.
Hiking areas now have warning signs posted where military-armed drug cartels are frequently photographed making drug deliveries to vehicles on Highway 8.
We are outgunned, we are outmanned, and we don't have the resources here locally for us to fight this.
Five weeks ago, a Pinal County deputy was ambushed and shot as he tracked six drug smuggling suspects.
Several times, the caller told operators to look for him where the sheriff had been shot.
Some of the information he gave had not been released.
Sheriff Babu says the issue is too much for local law enforcement.
What is needed, truly, is we're looking at 3,000 soldiers alone for Arizona.
In Pinal County, Mary Ellen Resendez, ABC 15 News.
All right, nice.
It's an invasion.
Yeah, it is.
They're running Arizona.
I'm waiting for them to retake the Alamo.
What happened to the Alamo?
I don't know this history at all.
Yeah, I'm not going to explain it.
The Alamo is just a symbolic place in Texas that went back and forth between Mexico, the nation, and the United States.
Texas was like an independent operation, and then the United States wanted to get a hold of it, but then the Mexicans wanted to get a hold of it.
We took it at one point, and they took the Alamo, and then we took it back.
I'd have to reread the whole thing, because it is confusing, A, and I don't have it on the top of my head, because I just remember the Alamo.
That's right.
You're supposed to remember the Alamo.
That's all I know.
Just remember the Alamo.
I've been to the Alamo, too.
Yeah, and you don't remember a thing, do you?
No, I do.
It's a very small place.
I thought it was bigger.
Yeah, but you don't know what it was about.
This is amazing.
No, I know what it was about.
It was about the border war between the United States and Mexico and who's going to end up with the ownership of Texas.
Okay, so we got Texas and now they're taking Arizona.
Yeah, well, they'd like to get New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Texas back.
And they, you know, they apparently have already got the Hotel Del Coronado, but that's as far as they've gone.
They have taken over the haunted room.
So this show that Stossel did, and you texted me and so I watched it last night, and I have to say there were some gross inaccuracies when it came to Amsterdam.
I was like, oh brother, this is a bunch of dickhead Americans thinking they know how it works in Amsterdam.
I agree.
Completely inaccurate.
And the worst part about it was the propaganda that came out of Fox, namely O'Reilly and Hannity, who apparently had Stossel on, and they got into an argument.
And Stossel, of course, is not a guy with a lot of stats at his beck and call.
Well, he had some stats.
He had some charts, which I found quite unbelievable, these are.
Yeah, the charts were ridiculous.
But, I mean, if those charts are right, which the Harvard guy says they are, then it indicates that everything we're told is a bunch of bull crap.
I mean, so the thing that got me is he literally was saying the percentage between people who try, and there were two specific examples, crack and heroin, that the people who try it, and he had a chart, it was like 8 million people tried it, and, you know, like 80,000 actually got hooked.
I don't believe that.
No, it was like 300,000.
Okay, well...
But it was a big differential.
Well, the Harvard guy says it's true, too.
And maybe it's because the Harvard guy, and I have the clip of it, he says that we're just being brainwashed with a bunch of phony baloney statistics, and this may be the reason that you don't believe that stat.
Which clip is that?
Well, I have them in the order I want them played.
All right, let's do it.
Yeah, and you can interrupt because these are long clips.
Okay.
But this is the first one is, I'll set it up, Stossel comes off of talking to Hannity and then brings on this Harvard guy to straighten out some of the bull crap that Hannity throws at him.
They want in their lives.
The problem is...
As long as we don't hurt somebody else.
It's predictable.
It's 100% certainty.
Crack addicts will kill to get more...
That, by the way, made me laugh.
Crack addicts will kill.
Yeah, you take some crack, you go kill someone.
Yeah, I mean, and 100%, the science is in!
100%, 100%, 100%.
And he criticizes the climate science guys.
Yeah.
That's the big fear, and his arguments make sense to lots of people.
Drugs are just different than alcohol.
So let me ask Harvard economist and libertarian Jeffrey Myron.
What about his claims?
100% the crack addict will kill.
The claims that he was making and the claims that other drug warriors make are just such grotesque...
This is the Harvard guy, right?
Yeah.
...exaggeration of the facts.
It's hard to believe anybody can say them out loud.
There are no data that support anything like that.
Of course, some of the claims...
I love a Harvard guy that says, there are no data.
He makes a couple of interesting flubs with his language.
I mean, I'm no linguist, but I was like, what?
There are no data to back up this.
The difference of are no data and is no data is actually debatable.
Oh, really?
Because it depends on whether data refers to a plural or a singular.
And I've heard that people try to do that usage before, but it's awkward and probably should not be executed.
It feels bad, that's true.
...in a while, but of course they occur for alcohol as well as for the illegal drugs.
They're basically just making up facts.
They're cherry-picking selective...
This is logic.
Oh, I thought you were saying something.
No.
All right.
...the crack addict will kill to get more crack.
Crack has been out there for 25 years.
It's available in every city.
By the way, crack was introduced by the United States government.
That's pretty well documented.
That was brought in by the CIA. The CIA literally sold it to the drug dealers.
What was the guy's name again?
Yeah, that guy in Baltimore, that character?
Which one are you talking about?
No, this was the guy that actually blew the lid off of everything to Gary Weaver that got him killed.
Yeah, yeah, no, because this is what Gary Weaver had uncovered.
He was a journalist for the San Jose Mercury News, I want to say.
I don't know, but you're not talking about Gary Weaver, the guy whose wife and kid got killed?
No, I'm not Gary Weaver.
I'm sorry.
Who's the journalist?
That's okay.
Don't worry.
I don't know.
You can Google it while we're listening.
Did you, by the way, notice in the stall, so I don't have the clip of this, but some young guy came out and said, well, what about the CIA smuggling?
Yeah, I know.
And it was like, no answer.
I know.
It was like, so what?
What about the CIA selling drugs and running everything from Afghanistan?
And then the military guy goes like, you know, we're fighting a war.
Yeah, I find that insulting that you'd insinuate.
And that guy was a dick, that military guy.
He was mind-controlled.
Hold on.
If it were going to cause that kind of violence, we would have basically seen everyone living in cities dead by now.
Of course, that's not true.
So those claims are just fanciful.
And And just to go back to that chart, I was impressed by this, that if I had become convinced that crack was this special drug that really hooked people, but then what explains this?
So what explains that is that lots of people try it, and they realize it's either not that much fun, it's not that interesting, or they have some concerns about negative side effects, and they stop.
Dude, I'm really stoned, but I have some concerns about the negative side effects.
It was Gary Webb, by the way.
Thank you, Charlie.
Gary Webb, right, right, right.
Most people who were a dope smoker and you stopped out of the blue.
Yeah, I wasn't smoking crack, though.
No, but, you know, I don't believe everybody who's ever tried crack, not that I would ever recommend it to anyone.
It's a terrible product.
It's baking soda.
It's Coke and baking soda.
Well, but it's ingested.
It will give you a heart attack.
That is kind of a problem there, it seems to me.
Yeah, it might be.
Dude, that's one of the negative side effects.
It's not for me, man.
This crack is not working.
They use all sorts of risky things in their teens and early 20s.
Stop doing them for lots of things as they get older.
Sean Hannity said the Dutch marijuana use after Holland legalized it.
Stop.
They've never legalized it.
Incorrect.
It's not legalized.
Not legalized.
It was 250% from 84 to 92.
I didn't catch his time period when he said that to me.
So his time period doesn't correspond to when they actually liberalize their policy.
Their use rates have indeed gone up and down, but they're currently about half the use rates in the United States, even though they have virtual legalization and we have this draconian policy.
So I will agree with that, having grown up.
You said virtual legalization.
The Harvard guy is right there.
But I will say...
Liberalizer policy, virtual legalization is what it is.
And I will say that they've had the same policy for alcohol, which is also not that big of a problem.
And you can still, to this day, as far as I know, walk into a bar when you're 15, you look like 16, you'll get a drink, there's no ID check, etc.
It's not a big deal.
And because it's not a big deal...
It's not a big deal.
It's like, so what?
Yeah, no.
In fact, I remember there was a news show, because Scandinavian and Nordic countries are fairly liberal with these kinds of rules and regulations.
And there was a show, I remember watching it on the news, it was showing some kid, I guess his dad was like a drunk or something, go out and get me another six-pack.
Yeah.
And so this kid who is 12 years old, he's in Norway, Oslo or something, he goes into the grocery store, buys a six-pack and brings it home to his dad.
And it's like the American news media, what a scandal!
The kid's not drinking it.
But you know what I found was really smart in Holland is, and that's still the same, it is very hard to obtain a driver's license.
So you have to be 18.
None of this is 16 bullcrap.
And I don't think you're responsible enough when you're 16 anyway.
But also you don't really need necessarily to drive because there's plenty of trains.
But most people fail on their first attempt to get their driver's license.
You have to take lessons.
I think most people take at least 20 hours, some 40 hours.
Some are on the program for years.
And it's very hard to get a driver's license.
And I've always thought that was kind of an interesting counterbalance to the policy of, look, it's no big deal.
It's just no big deal.
And the policy has been pretty much the same for heroin.
Holland, of course, is a total transport country, so they're transporting the shit everywhere.
They don't want to blow up their own system.
A lot of people are making money off of it.
But because it's not a big deal, I just don't think the problem's there.
So I have to agree.
If that's libertarian, then I'm there.
Yeah it is.
What's the second clip?
Oh, that was the end of the clip?
Eh, we've got 30 seconds.
Doesn't support his claim at all, it's just the opposite.
So even though Holland's this place where all the American tourists go, because they can smoke marijuana...
By the way, it's the British tourists that go there and get fucked up, not the Americans.
Americans too, but it's the Brits.
They make weekend trips of it.
Don't worry about the cops.
Fewer Dutch people smoke than Americans.
And in particular, Dutch youth don't smoke nearly as much as American youth seem to do.
If it were legal...
More people would try stuff, right?
I suspect lots of people would occasionally try it or would be curious, but the vast majority wouldn't continue.
If they really were curious, if they really cared, they would already be using it because it's easy to get if you have any serious interest.
So why is this such...
There you go.
It ended.
So, is that the end?
Yeah.
Or I got cut off?
No, that was the end.
Oh.
So, um...
You know, the thing that's really behind this whole drug war deal is the...
I used to work for the Air Pollution Control District.
Now it's the Air Quality Management, whatever.
And I went to...
I was at the University of California in the library doing some research.
And I was going through some government documents.
And I ran into the original legislation for the establishment of the Air...
Pollution District, which was, if I recall right, was done in 1955.
This was, I think, right after that London fog incident in the 50s.
Everybody got really concerned about air pollution, and so these things were cropping up everywhere.
And it was very clear in the original law that the agency was to be created for a period and I don't remember the exact number but it had a limited life that was either 15 or 20 years and then they were going to close it.
So in other words by 1975...
It should have been out of existence, but it not only stayed in existence, but got bigger and bigger and bigger, and now they're dealing with carbon dioxide and how can we stay in business doing this?
The DEA, once it was created, you created a monster.
You can't get rid of it.
They're going to put up phony stats.
They're going to do anything they can to stay in business.
Cops like the overtime, and the whole thing is a fiasco.
Yeah, there was a lot of that.
I don't know if we should play all...
This second clip is really short, 30 seconds.
Is that some gem you've got here?
No, the good clip is the last one that's long.
Because it talks about the thing that really bothers me, which are these SWAT teams.
Yeah, let's play that.
Apparently we have 100 SWAT raids a day in this country.
SWAT teams were, you know, special weapons and tactics was set up for, you know, for anti-terrorists and real...
Anti-energy guys.
They should be blowing up guys making browns gas.
It was set up for a specific purpose, paramilitary operations that cost a lot of money to maintain.
And so now they have to find some rationale for staying in business when most of them should be dissolved.
We don't need all these military-looking operations within police departments and these tanks and crazy things that they buy.
Not just looking, they're trained.
They're military trained.
Yeah, they're military people.
Well, they're trained as military.
And then they're going around...
Well, play that clip, just that last clip.
The police are about to break into a house in Columbia, Missouri.
They believe there's a large supply of marijuana here.
Inside, a couple is putting their seven-year-old son to bed.
They kill one of the family dogs, injure the other.
Move!
Move past it!
They didn't find that large supply of marijuana.
They just found a little.
So they levered a $300 fine and charged the father with child endangerment.
Did you shoot my dog, bitch?
He's a f***ing dog!
They never apologized for killing the family dog.
Oh, that was a good dog!
They wouldn't even say sorry.
Every indicator to me shows that this was a justifiable shooting.
The dog was aggressive and the dog got shot.
I was stunned to learn that SWAT team raids like that are not unusual anymore.
They now happen every day in America.
In fact, more than a hundred occur every day.
Radley Balco of Reason Magazine opened my eyes to that raid and to a raid on this man's home, Shai Kelvo.
Two years ago, cops burst into his home in Maryland and shot his two dogs.
And this was because FedEx had delivered a package with marijuana.
We actually did that story when it happened.
You remember that?
Yeah.
I don't remember the part that the guy was the mayor.
Yeah, he was the mayor.
Yeah, that was the crazy thing about it.
Exactly.
And the police, when they burst into our home, had done so little investigation, they didn't even know I was the mayor of the town.
You were the mayor of the town.
It wasn't your own police.
It was a county SWAT team, but the inerrant SWAT team burst in the door, rifles blazing.
They shot our two dogs, Peyton and Chase, one from behind while he was running away.
And they tore our house upside down in a four-hour nightmare.
So this was a mistake?
Well, I remember distinctly as I kneeled there on the floor, bound, my own living room floor, at gunpoint, thinking it was a mistake.
But as I looked into it further, I learned it's business as usual.
They, to this day, say the guys did what they were supposed to do.
Even though we were innocent, even though it made international headlines, it was an embarrassment for the county, it was the right thing to do.
And, Radley, this has become business as usual in America.
Yeah, I mean the raid that we just saw...
I'm sorry, did you just say stop it?
Yeah, you can stop it.
I mean, I think it's pretty, you know, obvious what's going on here.
Yeah, the federal government.
Nobody does any work on the topic.
They can't do enough to even, you know, check on this guy who's the mayor.
They're obviously careless.
They don't need to be careful because nobody cares, nobody's responsible, nobody gives a crap, and nobody's ever held accountable.
And it's the federal government who are out of control.
I mean, this is not states.
This is not states.
This is what you see in California.
And by the way, it was funny.
The douchebag from the neo-prohibitionist...
He said that there are more pot dispensaries in Los Angeles than there are Starbucks and McDonald's.
I'm like, oh yeah, I'd like to see those stats, motherfucker.
That is so not true.
That is absolutely not true.
No, that guy lied through his teeth, which really bothers me.
In fact, the DEA is lying about statistics, which is obvious, and this guy's lying through his teeth with all kinds of assertions that were just off the wall.
You know, the guy should be ashamed of himself.
And this whole movement that's trying to stop, you know, what Stossel's talking about, you know, in California, of course, we have the marijuana initiative coming up, which will be hilarious because hopefully it'll pass.
And then there'll be these court cases and the feds will come in and there's going to be all kinds of things going on.
It's just pathetic.
It's just a pathetic situation.
What I found the best clip, which we don't have a clip of, unfortunately, is when one of the audience members said, hey, listen, we had alcohol prohibition in this country, and the only way to do that was to amend the Constitution.
That got overturned.
How come there's no amendment to the Constitution for...
Drugs.
And, of course, the question was not answered.
No, the guy refused to even address it.
He went on and on with all kinds of statistics and how important it is.
That was the same douchebag who lied about the Starbucks and McDonald's.
And the fact of the matter is, he couldn't answer it.
The thing is, it's a federal...
That's why the state of California can pass this law.
the opportunity to do whatever they want.
If they have the guts to do it, because we're seeing a solid movement in this country against states' rights.
The fact of the matter is this country is set up so each state can do most of the legislative activity for the people that live within its boundaries, but you have this concerted effort, especially by the left, to make a national government especially by the left, to make a national government that hangs over everything.
That's why they have protests in California about Arizona and its laws.
What does California have to do with it?
Nothing.
Nothing.
So as we move into our second hour for today's program, John, a quick note about change.org.
Have you ever looked at this website?
No.
So I'm not quite sure...
Well, it feels very Obama-esque, obviously.
It being named change.org.
Actually, I didn't do a who is on it.
I should do that real quick.
It's set up by...
It's always tough to find out who's behind these things, but you go to aboutusatchange.org.
Ben Rattray is the founder...
You would just have an Obama look.
Yeah, he's the founder and CEO. And there's Mark Dimas.
That name sounds familiar.
But there's no real profiles of these guys.
This is the limited public profile for Mark.
He's the fucking CEO. What is he?
CTO. Limited profile.
Anyway, so it looks like a bunch of Silicon Valley Obama nuts.
And so what this website does is it helps you set up petitions, which makes me feel like it's even more an Obama thing.
And then these petitions, I guess, are sent in.
So here it is.
This petition to fully fund NPR and PBS, better known as...
Our National Treasure!
Targeting the U.S. Senate and U.S. House of Representatives sponsored by Credo Action...
So you can make groups on this change.org.
And here's their pitch.
The United States has one of the lowest funded public media systems in the developed world.
The federal government allots only $1.43 per person each year to maintain the system.
That much?
That's only part of their budget.
You're talking about $300 million already going into PBS? Is that what they're saying?
More!
More!
It's like $500 million.
Well, they should stop it.
That's a waste of money.
They've got sponsors.
They've got advertising.
Why don't they just act like any other broadcaster?
Well, let me give you their pitch.
The Public Broadcasting Act was passed over four decades ago.
It led to the creation of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, PBS and NPR, but today only 20% of the operation of public media is actually underwritten by the federal government through the CPB, forcing media outlets to increasingly rely on corporate underwriters for support.
Funny, that.
To make matters worse, the 20% of funds...
Oh, by the way, let me ask you the question.
Let's say they got more money from the government.
Do you think that underwriting would go away?
Nah, of course not.
So here's the petition text, which you are then supposed to send to your representative.
Dear Representative, I urge you to fully fund NPR and PBS. Now more than ever, we need a vibrant public media.
Corporate media fails to produce the truth-telling journalism we need to help citizens and politicians make decisions crucial to the safeguarding of our democracy.
And I'm like, wow, how can you actually, if you know anything about journalism, like Journalism 101, which I did take in my three months of college, you know that you cannot have a good journalistic media if it's funded by the government.
It's perpendicular to the whole concept.
And here they are, change, oh, let's change the world, let's make it a better place.
They have this page of writers.
Did you look at the Change.org team?
No.
Yeah, no, I did.
No, I did.
That's what I'm saying.
It's got all these photos.
Yeah, but there's no biographies.
And the guy's chairman and CEO, so the guy's clearly...
Is it for profit?
Is it not for profit?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Registered...
Ben Rattray.
It's registered to...
Ben Rattray.
Yeah, so he's the CEO. Change.org, 709 Douglas Street, San Francisco.
And Jeffrey Westcott.
So it doesn't really say much.
He's got a Facebook page.
But, you know, to get the URL Change.org...
Change.org.
I think that you probably have some ties.
That's not just one that's just real easy to go out and get.
No, that's not even close to being easy to get.
That had to be locked down.
And how are these guys funded?
Well, that's the question, isn't it?
Yeah, but I've looked at all those writers.
Maybe I should get a job there.
They've got like a thousand writers.
Well, they're hiring, John.
What are they hiring?
How many people do they need?
Here, they're hiring.
Oh my gosh.
Look at all this.
Look at all these.
If you can do Ruby on Rails, but they're hiring bloggers, criminal justice editor, an education editor, a global poverty editor, health editor, human rights editor, race in America editor.
Wow.
Hmm.
We could get a gig there.
Anyway, I guess the whole point of bringing this up is this is exactly how it's not supposed to work.
And you're right.
If they're getting $500 million and if it's really about bringing good stories, do you really need that much money?
Is that really necessary?
Seems so.
Now, we've taken a little different stance on this program.
Yeah, we don't get the $500 million.
No.
No, we don't.
But we do have a lot of people who support us, who understand what we're trying to do, what we're attempting to do, and in some cases we're succeeding, and we are just...
Unfortunately, we don't really spend our time going out and investigating stories, not that we'd be any good at that necessarily, But the media is so broken that we spend all of our time punching holes in it so people understand that what's being shoveled up to them as news is not actually news.
And a lot of that comes directly from our national treasure.
Brought to you by the U.S. government.
Well, I'm going to say the government's basically got all the media locked down.
They're just singing their tune.
Hence the stuff about legalizing or decriminalizing drugs.
By the way, I think legalizing marijuana is one thing.
Decriminalizing is another.
And I think legalizing marijuana makes sense.
Decriminalizing the other stuff makes sense.
Yeah, which is what Portugal did, and apparently it's working pretty good for them.
So, a couple of people we want to mention.
Ivan Neeson from Elwood, Victoria, Australia gave us $69.69.
And he's been on the $5 price.
He's donated some.
He needs some karma for his iPhone game.
What he needs is a better name for his iPhone game.
I'll review it on the Big App Show.
What is it?
Hijuka Snake Master?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll put it on the Big App Show, if it doesn't suck.
Hijuka Snake Master.
Okay, I'll do an episode.
Christopher Lind Hartson from Richland, Washington, 66.60.
He's currently working for the census and could use some good karma.
It sounds like good karma right there.
Yeah, it sounds like you've got a good gig.
Plus, can you call out at the real Canadian on the show?
As a douchebag, I guess?
He doesn't say that, so I don't know what to call him out.
I'm not going to do that.
No, I can't.
We mentioned his name, so he's going to, you know, now you know.
Ed Shavis, New York, New York, New York.
6610, he wants to donate two rocks on the dime.
Six is our rocks in Japanese.
And it's also a slang for crack.
Yeah.
Nice.
Two rocks on the dime.
6610.
We'd be up 10% on our donations of all these two rocks on the dime.
He wants to be...
No, not to be dedouched.
He wants to make it in the name of his publishing company, Vertical Inc.
We publish Japanese books, fiction, and business books in English, vertical-inc.com, so don't make up...
Oh, it's just about us bickering.
James Lowry, Macquarie Park, New South Wales.
Two nickels on a dime, no comments.
Richard Perry, Berlin, Berlin.
He's from Berlin.
He's from, oh no, he's from Berlin, Maryland.
Berlin, Berlin.
You got all excited there for a moment.
His name, my name is Rick, not the Governor Perry.
I've been listening for a couple of months now and finally can donate because I won't have a child care bill until the fall.
I'm in need of a big de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
Got another one coming up.
Nicholas Hughes, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
$55 even.
I've been listening since about day one.
I've never donated.
I couldn't live with the shame anymore.
He says, so here's my donation.
I've also subscribed.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
The de-douche machine is working overtime today.
Yes, it is.
It's smoking.
Peace 5150.
John, and then we have our Nighthoods layaway guys, Petrucini and Hudson and Pierce and Corpy.
And Tim Humer from Pelzer, South Carolina, wants a birthday shout-out to his sister and fellow producer Katie Humer, or it's pronounced Hemmer, sorry, H-U-E-M-M-E-R, it's pronounced Hemmer.
June 19th is her birthday, and she's turning the lucky 30.
Yeah, we actually have two birthdays to do.
Okay, so it's Tim Humer, and he is congratulating Katie Humer on her birthday.
We don't need to mention age.
We don't do that with...
Pronounced Hammer.
Hammer.
Tim Hammer for Katie Hammer.
We won't mention her age.
We don't do that with the dames on No Agenda.
And James Wilson also celebrating his birthday.
Happy birthday from your friends at the No Agenda show.
It's your birthday, yeah!
Yeah, and actually, today is actually James Wilson's birthday.
Yes.
It's amazing when these coincidences take place.
And let's see if there's any left here.
There's a Mel Matsuoka from Honolulu, Hawaii.
And you're supposed to...
Oh, yeah.
I guess another project of mine.
What is that?
He'll give another 50 bucks if I post all my old Board Watch recipes.
Board Watch?
Oh, yeah.
When I was writing for Board Watch magazine, I would put these recipes up.
What was Board Watch?
You looked at BBS systems or something?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wow.
The guy sold out for 25 million bucks and that was the end of it.
But yeah, I had these recipes, like the famous flank steak recipe that people rave about.
But I have a whole bunch of them.
The thing is that there's a little cache of them that I know I did and I can't find them.
You can't find them.
But I have about 20 of them.
They're probably on a memory stick somewhere.
They didn't have memory sticks back.
These were done in 1947.
So we appreciate all of the support we've received.
Well, James Wilson, we mentioned him, but I think he had a comment.
No, he didn't.
We appreciate all of the support that you've given to the program this week.
Very important to us is to get on one of the monthly support systems for us.
They are the real lifeline, and as they grow over time, they actually, by themselves, will be able to really sustain the show.
Particularly with some stuff I got coming up.
And we'd be still better off if the government was just giving us money.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we could just take 1%, right?
We'd be very happy with 1% of what they're giving our national treasure.
Oh, sure.
I left one other guy out.
John Tirada in Pasadena.
$50.
More food talk, he says.
So you can sign up for either the $5 or we have a $30 subscription, which is a very lucky one.
Of course, we have our night layaways.
What is it, $50, the night layaway?
$50 a month?
Yeah.
And then we have the triple witching, $333.33, to get your knighthood in three swift shots of donations.
And we had a long conversation that day, John.
I think you now are really...
You have the whole house filled with signs that say, Complete the Rings.
Project.
Complete the Rings.
How are we doing?
You getting there?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm 70% to finish.
Okay.
I'm just going to stay on you, right?
I mean, we agreed to this.
I'm going to stay on you for this.
No, we're going to do it, and I'm working it now.
In fact, let me go do some search on the internet for something else I need.
Oh, and I'm sorry, we're still doing this show.
You're going to get lost, and you're going to be looking at anime porn or something.
That's probably what happens.
Yeah, I think there's nothing lamer in the world than anime porn, by the way, in case you're wondering.
So a couple of, like, almost ministry of...
Oh, by the way, the address to go to is Dvorak.org slash NA or ChannelDvorak.com if we're being filtered out, which might be the case in Ireland.
We know the stream is getting filtered out, apparently.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Your support is greatly appreciated.
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And also, we're always looking for people out there to promote the show, get on to other mainstream programs, give them a hearty in the morning, and give the noagendashow.com URL. That stuff always helps as well.
We appreciate the support, as always.
Ministry of Truth.
A couple things, actually.
Well, if you want to put it off, we can do a little real news to liven things up, or I can do this at the end.
No, let's do some real news.
That's good.
And now, back to real news.
Well, something happened, and I was on the, I put the recorder on, and I dozed off.
Were you on crack?
Yes, because I was on crack.
You had to go out and kill somebody, not doze off.
So I woke up to a reality TV show that was the worst thing I've ever seen, and I have three clips I want to play.
First, let's play clip number one.
The show is called Pretty Wild, and it involves a girl who apparently does nothing but cry for a half an hour.
Can I just say something?
This show is taped in our street.
No.
Yes!
This is in our street.
This is the girl who was arrested as part of the Bling gang who stole $3 million from Hollywood celebrities like Paris Hilton and Justin Timberlake.
They were a bunch of well-to-do Los Angeles celebrities.
Punks, douchebag kids, and they actually used Twitter and other social networks to find out when these celebrities would be out of town, would break into their homes, and they stole jewelry, but also Paris Hilton's underwear, and they were caught on CCTV camera.
And this girl in particular, who still denies, but I think she copped a plea bargain, so she's going to go to jail for like 60 days, but she made a whole reality show out of it called Pretty Wild, and it is taped right up the street!
It's disgusting.
It's so bad, like, I want to watch it, but I can't, and then I have to, and it's like, it's...
Do you need set up for this first clip?
Just play it.
There's nothing to set up.
I want to tell them that I didn't do anything and that I feel bad and that through all of this I think that I was meant to bring truth to this situation.
Truth to all the people who lost their belongings and you probably feel so violated.
I know I would.
That was not fair.
The positive energy that comes from good choices is really powerful.
It's a hundred times more powerful than a negative thought.
That's what they say in The Secret.
They just realize that even if you are innocent, it's the people that you surround yourself with.
Good.
I'm glad you realized that.
Good choices versus...
So, they've got this douchebag lawyer...
Wait a minute.
...on the show.
Wait, stop.
I know all about this show.
Yeah, but what is The Secret?
What do you mean?
Positive energy is ten times more powerful, blah, blah, blah.
That's what they say in The Secret.
In The Secret.
This whole thing is so fake.
What is this, a cult?
Yes.
This mom is a complete creep.
She's horrible.
She should be locked up.
She's exploiting these kids.
And the funny thing is, they're renting this house and they're only there when they shoot episodes.
They don't actually live there, but when you watch the show, it's like, oh, we're at their house.
But they're not.
It's a rental up the street here.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they just go in, and when you really look at the interior shots, you can see that they've got temporary clothing racks and stuff.
Once you really start to pay attention to it, you see it.
But it's a rented house.
It's one of these houses that is used by Vivid Entertainment normally.
I'm reliably informed.
Hubba hubba.
Yeah, and so they just rent it out whenever they're going to shoot.
And that's it.
The whole thing is fake.
You're talking about the lawyer, which I could have some clips of him.
But you might as well play pretty wild, too, because at the end of it, they go to a commercial.
And there was a kind of a crying, sobbing moment at the very end of the short clip that we have to cut out and use in all of our other clips.
It's unbelievable.
This is ruining my f***ing life!
It's a temporary situation.
No!
No, you need to stop the f***ing best dreams!
Are you kidding?
It's like my biggest dream.
Honey, look.
This too shall pass.
We're going to be able to do it another time in the future.
But you know what?
These are the consequences of hanging out with stupid people.
That's so good.
I like this show.
I know.
This is bulls**t.
We're going to support your sister.
Please just leave me alone.
I don't want to go.
Don't tell me I'm going to go.
It's going to be okay.
No, just leave me alone.
That's good.
Let me see if I can mix it up here.
here, hold on a second.
In the morning.
Yeah, so this douchebag lawyer who was the one who got her the reality show, because this is what it's all about.
And the kids on antidepressants, it's all set up, right?
And it's a Ryan Seacrest production, I might add.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He should be ashamed of himself, which brings me to the Bernie Goldberg clip that I have here, where he does a rant.
Who's Bernie Goldberg?
Bernie Goldberg's a former ABC correspondent, very famous.
If you saw his face, you'd say, oh God, I've seen this guy a million times.
He quit.
He gave up on the mainstream media and went to work probably getting more money from Fox.
It turns out he's a right-wing...
Character with a lot of opinions and he does these little segments on the O'Reilly Report once in a while and he's absolutely, I think it's O'Reilly, one of those guys, he's absolutely fascinating because his opinions are based in old media and they come together and he's extremely...
I'm irked by these reality TV people.
The story to reality TV. We don't...
Now the father says he didn't sell it.
The production company is running away.
We can't get to them.
But there was apparatus.
They were shooting it.
They were this.
They were that.
So you've got to feel that there was something in play here.
But let's just put that aside for a moment.
A lot of people are angry with these parents.
Number one.
16-year-old girl, unattended, 40-foot boat, trying to sail around the world.
Child abuse?
Child?
What do you think?
Yeah, you know, you can make that case.
I think the problem with reality shows is that they cheapen the culture.
In this particular case, Bill, nothing counts.
What culture?
What culture?
I agree with him.
I think they cheapen the culture.
The existence of these shows has cheapened the American culture what little that we have.
How much cheaper can it get?
It is our culture.
This is the same thing as why we eat McDonald's on the airplane.
Which is another disgusting part of our culture.
Nothing matters.
Not even a 16-year-old girl getting in a relatively small boat to take a voyage around the world.
It doesn't count unless it's on television and you can cash in on it.
For some people, life itself doesn't count unless they're on television making money.
The Kardashians come to mind on that one.
But none of this, none of this comes close to the worst reality show in the history of television, which is still on right now, and that's the Maury Povich show.
Every day, or almost every day, he has a stupid woman on who got pregnant by some stupid guy, and they do a paternity test.
She says, he's the father.
He says, no, my cousin's the father.
It cheapens the culture.
Maury Povich, because of this, is the...
The most despicable human being, and I use that term loosely, ever to appear on television.
This is the kind of stuff He makes Jerry Springer look like he's the host of Masterpiece Theater.
I mean, he makes Jerry Springer look decent by comparison.
Maury Povich is the...
I hope he's watching or hears about this.
He is the absolute worst piece of garbage in the history of television because that stuff cheapens the culture.
People humiliate themselves so that they can get on television.
It's despicable.
All right.
There are a couple of things in play here, but I do want to get back to Abby Sunderland for a moment, because this is a girl who is brave, and you have to be brave, who's resourceful.
She gets all the way to the Indian Ocean by herself in a 40-foot boat.
Yeah, she is confident that she can do it.
She almost died.
I don't think people understand how close she came to leaving this planet.
I mean, the boat fell apart, mass crashed, all her emergency equipment crashed, and she was lucky, lucky.
Let me just say, there's two topics here, John.
One is reality television.
I think we're probably going to agree on that.
When it comes to the conversation about it being child abuse for this father to allow, push, whatever it is...
This idea, because I guess this girl's a sailor, obviously came about because a girl in Australia...
Her dad has a sailing shop and a camp, and it's a sailing family.
Right, but the girl in Australia came from a sailing family, and she went around the world, completed hers.
She was the same age, 16, so they obviously gave somebody the idea that, well, our daughter can do that, maybe we make it into a TV show.
The other girl obviously didn't have a TV show, but she got a lot of...
But the thing is, I've listened to interviews with both these girls, and the Australian girl is sharp as a tack.
She is extremely bright, and she's quick-witted, and she's actually an amazing person to listen to, and she jokes about the fact that now she can get her driver's license.
The other girl seems like a dimwit.
I have not seen either one of them interviewed, but I do know that if that is child abuse, then how about parents who put their 10-year-old kids on horses?
You know, hey, go ahead.
Horses are...
The whole equestrian sport is dangerous.
People get severely injured.
But, you know, it's always like, oh, hero horse race, an Olympic sport.
You've got parents who put their kids in skelter races, you know, the precursor to the formula.
The rest of the interview, I think they back off on the idea.
I mean, that's just O'Reilly being provocative.
But that's a big part of the conversation, is people say, oh, it's child abuse, just because of the reality show.
And I think that's dubious, whether it's, you know, it's like, oh, we'll do a reality show, go get some fame, kid.
You know, I don't know, man.
It's like, what are we worried about?
Chinese farmers send their kids off to Foxconn to go work 18 hours a day when we don't seem to have a national debate about that.
You know, it's very common around the world for parents to send their kids off and go make some money.
In fact, it used to be that way in the so-called civilized Western world.
Yeah, you'd be working in a factory when you were 12.
Yeah, shut up and go make some bricks.
Carry some bricks, kid.
That's what it was.
Or go out there in Thailand.
Go prostitute.
This happens all over the place.
But the reality show format, and I'm a student of television, of course...
And The Real World was, for all intents and purposes, the first reality-based show, which I consider to be a reality show.
The Maury Povich show is in the reality genre.
I would say Sally Jessie Raphael came before that, and we used to share studios with her in New York, and boy, there were a lot of creeps coming through.
But it is...
Our culture is to watch that.
I see the most intelligent people watching this crap.
I don't see any intelligent people watching it.
I don't watch it.
I saw Povich once and I thought the show was ridiculous.
You're hyper-intelligent.
Yeah, right.
Doesn't count.
No, I'm talking about normal intelligent people don't watch this crap.
It's for beer-swilling kind of...
People that would be on the show.
I mean, one of the things I was told, which is about somebody who was involved with the Springer show, is that they have a fee schedule and everybody gets paid a certain amount of money based on what they do.
And in fact, it's like 50 bucks if you stand up, you get 25 bucks if you make a threatening motion.
Apparently, you get like 100 or 50 bucks or some amount of money for taking a shoe off and threatening somebody with it.
And it's the only show, if you haven't noticed, it's almost like code.
It's the only show you've ever seen anyone take a shoe off, and they're always taking their shoes off on the show because they get paid an extra amount of money for taking the shoe off.
I'm not that in-depth into it, and apparently you have watched the show.
I think the Jerry Springer show is hilarious.
I don't watch any of it.
I haven't watched it for a number of years, and I did get this guy to sign a non-disclosure on all these reality shows.
Then you can't tell anybody about what's really going on behind the scenes.
So nobody ever comes out.
And this guy told me, he said...
He says the main reason many of these people do these shows, they come out and humiliate themselves, is because they genuinely believe that they'll be discovered and be put in a movie.
Yes.
That they'll become famous.
Absolutely.
That is the culture.
That is the...
Look, Paris Hilton.
Now, she had some money background to start with, but how did she become famous?
I haven't forgotten.
She started by a sex tape.
And then we've got Perez Hilton, who started his celebrity blogger fame by naming himself in a manner that sounded like Perez Hilton, and it was very brilliant.
It was.
Very good.
This whole culture is built on that.
And then we've got the...
What's her name?
Kim Kardashian.
And she's with the basketball player.
Or is a football player?
I think he's a football player.
I don't know.
Who cares?
I can't watch that show at all.
You know what?
It's the extension of lifestyles.
It's coming into lifestyles of the rich and famous, which a lot of people probably have never heard of before, but it used to be a show that I think a lot of America watch.
Why am I shouting?
I'm Robin Leach.
All right, moving on to another topic.
Robin Leach was on a show recently, by the way.
He's chubbed out enormously.
Oh really?
He was always kind of chubby.
Yeah, but now it's more...
And in the reality format, let us not forget, rest in peace, Morton Downey Jr., Yeah, you know, that was a confrontation.
That was an interesting experiment that I think a lot of people learned a lot from.
It was very compelling.
It was confrontational.
Of course, he was stoned on amphetamines.
They got him all, you know, jacked up to go on there and scream at people.
But before that, there was a Joe Pyle.
No, I don't remember that show.
Joe Pyle predates all these guys.
He goes way back.
And then there's Wally, that guy, the Wally, whatever his name is, show.
There's a bunch of these characters that have come and gone.
They all make a lot of money.
They sure make more than we do.
Fuck yeah.
So, um, I've been noticing something kind of weird in Los Angeles now that I live here.
Um, there, uh, there's these police officers who, um, ride around a lot on Segways.
At first I thought it was like there was some kind of, like, traffic watch.
Paul Blart, mall cop.
No, it's actually bid police.
The bid police.
Have you ever heard of this?
The bid police?
I never heard of the bid police.
Exactly.
So, um...
Do you ever notice sometimes on a daily basis there's all these police agencies like within one jurisdiction?
There's the state cops, the feds, there's the county, there's the city.
Well, get this.
So these bid police who have guns and they have badges and they have police uniforms and on the back of their uniform it says bid police.
So the word police is there, and then bid.
And so, yes, they were driving back from the movies.
It's B-I-D. B-I-D. Has it got dots?
Is it B-I-D? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It should have dots, but it doesn't.
It just says bid.
And I'm like, that must be some kind of traffic thing or whatever, but they got guns, and they're riding around on hyped-up Segways.
I'm like, what is this?
It is the Business Improvement District Police.
And this is something, yes, and this is something very new.
Or relatively new, I should say.
Mall cops?
No.
Well, if only it would have stated that, but they are not actual police.
They are rent-a-cops set up by the, in this case, the Los Angeles Business District.
And it is their mission...
Yeah.
are focused on the immediate response to major crimes.
And these crimes, so their entire mission is to assist in building relationships between local citizens and the private security companies who deploy these big police officers.
Bid police?
I know, but they're not real cops.
This is what bothers me.
But they patrol the streets and they interact with civilian slaves like they are the cops.
And it's kind of frightening.
Bid police!
Bid police!
Yeah.
They've got the bid patrol.
Sir, move over.
Bid police.
Bid police.
So they're mall cops, except they've got guns.
Well, mall cops have guns.
They do?
Yeah, a lot of them.
Paul Blart didn't.
Paul Blart couldn't be trusted with a gun.
So in the Hollywood Entertainment District, the bid patrol officers do more than...
How can you be an officer?
You're not an officer.
It's the misnomers that bother me.
You're not police.
You are not the police.
You're just not.
You're a rent-a-dude.
They provide more than just a presence, they become members of the community.
As members it's necessary for the officers to not only make arrests, but to also find alternative and permanent solutions to the problems in the area.
For example, several quality of life issues in the Hollywood Entertainment District, this is Hollywood Boulevard, involve the homeless population.
Homeless violators who experience frequent arrests can often create a revolving door effect rather than a lasting resolution to the problem.
As a remedy, bit patrol officers have initiated close working relationships with several of the community's homeless outreach programs.
When appropriate, officers provide direction and program referrals.
Yeah.
Hey!
Hey!
Homeless douche!
Get out of here.
Get away from that shop window.
I'll arrest you.
And they've also become involved with juvenile runaway shelters in order to direct juvenile citizens to organizations that will offer them help.
Okay, Adam, you take the boys' shelter and I'll take the girls' shelter.
I'm telling you.
So I don't like it.
It feels a bit scary to me.
It's disgusting.
Then a Father's Day story.
The New York Times came out with a baffling piece, interestingly enough, in their fashion and style section.
Where there is a movement in our scholastic system.
We're still waiting for your big report, John, on schooling.
Any minute.
Yes.
And the movement is to break up kids who have best friends.
Yeah, this is blogged.
Oh, you blogged it?
Oh, yeah.
So the story is that the scholastic system, I'm generalizing, feels that best friends is not a good idea and they should be separated.
Because kids need to interact with each other.
In essence, when did this become the school's responsibility?
Well, that's the big question.
They want kids to be more group-oriented.
They want them to be responsible to the group.
It's a very socialist kind of a thing.
Instead of having a friend that they can rely on, they should rely on the group, the group of people.
And, you know, it's collectivism.
Give me a break.
And it started at some hinky-dink school by this one woman who must be getting a lot of flack, because this has been blogged by everybody.
Christine Lakob, she's the director of counseling at the Mary Institute and St.
Louis Country Day School in St.
Louis.
We try to talk to kids and work with them to get them to have big groups of friends and not be so possessive about friends.
Yeah.
Parents sometimes say Johnny needs that one special friend, she continued.
We say he doesn't need a best friend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's baffling to me.
It's not baffling to me.
This is part of a movement to kind of destructure, deconstruct the culture and get it so it thinks more in terms of like, you know, group benefits.
Collectivist.
There's been a huge push against individualism in this country.
And individualism, if an individual wants to have a best friend, it's his or her business.
It's nobody else's.
Nobody should be discouraging it or encouraging it.
They should just let it be instead of butting in.
I can't wait for your big report on the scholastic system, John.
That's a mess.
All right, and then...
I got one thing, by the way, I want to play something at the end of the show, after we're done, which I want to recommend.
It's playing over the next week or two.
Robert Klein, who is a funny comic, he used to have shows, but he's the one who was in the...
Do you remember the movie War of the Roses?
Yes, yes.
Where the two, the husband and wife, just destroyed each other.
I'm in that movie, by the way.
Oh, okay.
Robert Klein was actually...
It was modeled after the marriage between Robert Klein and Elaine Boosler.
Oh, really?
I didn't know that that was modeled after that.
Oh, okay.
And this was Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones?
No, um...
No, no, no.
Some actress...
Anyway, it's a great movie.
It's hilarious.
But it's...
Klein, who some people I know have met, is apparently not the nicest guy in the world, but I have to say, very talented comic, but he does a song during his act called Medical Marijuana.
I want to play it, and people should go see the HBO special.
He was the first guy to do an HBO special.
Right.
Curiously.
And it's quite amusing.
Okay, so we'll play that right after the closing credits of the show.
And I only have one other clip that's worth listening to, besides the Who Are You clip, which is just a piece of it.
Well, let me play that.
Do you fully support the Obama agenda?
Who are you?
Who are you?
I'm here for a project, sir.
Damn it, who are you?
Is that the congressman?
Yeah.
Drunk.
I don't know if he was drunk or not.
He had to be plastered.
But he grabs these kids, these so-called college kids, which I don't know if they were or not, but he grabs them.
He's holding on to them by the scruff of the neck.
You know, who are you?
Shut up, slave!
It's like the most elitist.
It's an uncomfortable thing to watch.
It doesn't really work in audio.
But when you see the video, it's just like, oh my god, you know?
Very bad, yeah.
Oh, wow.
It's like, shut up, slave!
Who are you?
Who are you?
Shut up, kid!
And the kid's like, we're college students.
It's a project.
It's a project.
It's a college project.
Which I doubt, by the way.
No, I think it was a phonied up, too.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But it's still...
I don't think they expected it to work so well.
No, it was like jackpot.
What a jackpot that was for sure.
Anyway, but I do have something.
People always wonder.
One of the complaints I have about tech reporting is that there's no critical thinking, there's no honesty, and much of what...
Passes for journalism is boosterism.
And so I'm flipping around.
I caught the G4, I think it was Attack of the Show or one of these things on the G4. And I took this little clip, which is a guy who's reviewing a non-released product, kind of, with the guy who wrote the product, I guess.
And he's so giddy and so boosterish over the whole thing that I found it actually disgusting.
They're varied, you know, from classic dungeons.
You know, we try to present ourselves as a dungeon crawl.
There's lots of dungeons, but outdoor areas like you're seeing in this demo and wilderness areas and towns as well.
I'm sure the engine can render them beautifully and clearly you guys are taking advantage of it.
The game looks incredible.
Very excited.
Hunted the Demon's Forge.
When do we get to play it?
When do I get it?
When do I convince my friends to buy it?
We're shipping the first quarter next year.
Sounds good.
Thank you so much.
Woohoo!
Yay!
Yay!
First quarter next year.
Yay!
It's awesome!
When will I convince my friends to buy it?
The thing isn't going to be out for almost a year.
He doesn't know what the game is any good or not.
What do you mean convince his friends to buy it?
I'm going to predict that somewhere in the next 18 months there will come An expose revealing the incredible scam that is rampant throughout the tech industry, the tech reporting industry, and dare I say it, the online advertising industry.
I saw that Facebook...
There was a report, and of course it's still a private company.
The report is that they had revenues, their last annual revenues were estimated between $800 million and a billion dollars.
Now, John, I don't know how that works.
It cannot be from people clicking on banners.
I just don't think it works.
I just, I don't believe it.
It's horseshit.
Who clicks on banners?
Do your kids click on banners?
Mine doesn't.
Do you click on banners?
I haven't clicked on a banner for two and a half years.
And on Facebook?
No.
Who's clicking on these banners?
An $800 million?
I mean, is that just from the display of banners?
Yeah, if you click on a banner, it's worth probably like a dime, maybe a nickel.
Penny clicks, man.
Penny clicks.
That's what it's down to.
So where is this revenue coming from?
Where are these clicks coming from?
The only thing I can imagine is that people are sitting there clicking on something or watching a video because it'll get them some virtual broccoli for their Farmville, which is what I think this whole, what's that, Zynga?
Is that the name of the company?
I think that's how it works.
You want broccoli, which is just the most ridiculous thing.
You want some broccoli, then you've got to click on this banner or watch this video, this ad, before you can get it.
That can't be a sustainable model.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And I think we're going to get some huge exposés because you listen to this clip and the tech industry is rampant.
I've seen drawings of people explaining exactly how the tech...
Oh, it used to be so great.
The executive would talk to the PR company.
The PR company would pitch the tech journalist.
The tech journalist would write a story and everything was beautiful.
Everything flowed perfectly.
Yeah, but that's PR. That has nothing to do with actual, you know, like real journalism.
It doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
It's pretty scant.
Present company excluded.
And you actually report, I feel honestly, on stuff.
I've known you.
You don't sign NDAs.
You don't...
I don't get invited to much.
You're Bane.
You're shunned.
I don't care.
You're shunned.
You're also not wildly rich from it because you're not part of the game.
Which reminds me, we didn't talk about the oil cabal, and of course, even though it is the hottest news story of the moment, I did want to mention their PR company, the PR company for BP. We love the PR companies.
And there's a little clip.
The PR company is called Brunswick, and they are the global PR company for BP. And I want you to listen, because all of a sudden it becomes clear how these guys operate and how important public relations really is.
I think it's the woman who you really want to listen to.
First, the chairman comes on of this.
What I think is always very valuable for clients about the type of business that we've tried to To grow and to build is that we brought into the firm people who are passionate about communications.
That's something we all share.
But they come from many different walks of life.
We are lucky enough to have in Brunswick people who have been top lawyers, people who have been top-rated analysts.
People who have been top journalists, whether that be print or broadcast.
People who have been top communications professionals within companies.
People who have been top of their game in the regulatory world or the public affairs world.
And we bring that all into as powerful a mix we can for our clients and the issues they face.
It's like, okay.
So you leave public service as a regulator or you leave your broadcast journalism job and you go work for the PR company and then you essentially bribe your buddies into shilling for BP. It's a perfect system.
It's beautiful.
It's stunningly beautiful.
And people have no idea how this works.
Forget lobbyist groups.
Who gives a crap about lobbyists?
That's a joke.
It's these guys that have the real power.
They look like a thousand people around the world.
That's because they essentially do the footwork and a lot of the...
If I want to do a story on something, I can get a hold of the right PR people and I can have them provide me with all kinds of stuff that would take me weeks to develop.
They'll do it in hopes that they get a positive...
Play for their client who is related to something going on in the story.
I do have a funny story about this, which is another thing that never endeared me much to a lot of the PR people, although I'm good friends with many of them.
Well, usually the women are kind of hot.
Most of the women are fairly attractive.
They throw good dinners.
Well, that's one thing I get invited to a lot of dinners because they know that I won't put up with a cheap meal.
So I get invited to more dinners.
Hey, man, if you want Dvorak to blog about it, then you just got to feed him right.
That's how you do it, man.
Come on.
So mainly because the PR women get to go out to have a good dinner.
I mean, it's a perfect world.
Yeah.
So when I was the editor of Infoworld, I used to play this very interesting...
We could never stabilize the size of the publication.
It came out every week.
And it was thin, and it was really huge, and then it was medium.
So there was so much fluctuation in the page count that I had to have a pile of stories ready to roll, which I kept in a huge pile under my desk in a stack.
And so we'd say, oh my God, if we've got 50 pages to fill, I'd pull a bunch of these things out and come over to copy it.
And they'd think I was a genius.
But many of these stories I had developed by public relations companies.
And what I would do is the following.
And this is a good tip for anybody who wants to be an editor in an awkward situation.
Although, you know, I don't think you can do this forever because at some point they're going to figure it out.
But I would call, like, every time a public relations person would call me, I would tell them, oh, you're doing, what are your clients?
Oh, you got the hard disk company?
Oh, can you get, you know, I need like a 2,500 word article on the history of hard disks and how they came about and who the leaders are and what the best companies are.
And they would write this piece for me with a byline of whoever wrote it.
it.
I don't, I give them credit.
And, uh, and then I would go in and edit it to take out all the references to their clients.
Right.
Of course.
Of course.
And so, because I didn't want the thing to be a shill piece.
And that was really good when you took out all that crap, by the way.
It was well written.
So I threw it in.
And then, of course, you'd get a call when it ran a couple of days later.
How come you didn't mention our client?
My company wasn't mentioning it.
And then I would profusely apologize.
By the way, I used to do a lot of this on speakerphone with the staff in the room so they could watch me at work.
I would profusely apologize and say, what can I do to make it up to you?
Can you give me an article on...
And I'd request another article.
And you'd cut out all the client stuff again.
I could do that three or four times in a row with anybody.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
Yeah, but I'd say a good 75% of our news is PR pieces.
Oh yeah, it's all PR pieces or planted or controlled by public relations agencies.
We're toast.
No public relations agency has ever been involved in one word of this show.
Correct.
This article, though, a nationwide alert, John.
I'm surprised that we didn't do this at the top of the show.
The alert has gone out.
And I'm even more surprised that my iPhone didn't give me a push notification alert.
17 members of the Afghan military who are being trained in an Air Force base in Texas to become pilots have gone AWOL. Really?
The Afghan officers who are enlisted men have security badges that give them access to secure U.S. defense installations.
According to the Lookout Bulletin, Afghan military deserters in continental U.S., written by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in Dallas, the BOLO Bulletin, which stands for Be on the Lookout, BOLO, was distributed to local and federal law enforcement BOLO, was distributed to local and federal law enforcement officials Wednesday night.
The Afghans were attending the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.
The DLI program teaches English to military pilot candidates and other Air Force prospects from foreign countries allied with the United States.
They went AWOL. They're missing.
They can't find them.
And they're pilots!
Nope.
Bad things can happen.
Very bad things can happen.
This is what I would call the false flag waving is what this is.
Oh, we even have the names and pictures of them.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, I'm sure they're very identifiable.
No pictures, actually.
Jesus, one of them is born in 1987.
Give me a break.
Just so you know, bad things can happen.
I'll keep a lookout.
And then it looks like we're going to go to war with Iran.
I don't think so.
Well, I have three articles.
You know, I made a bet with somebody about this, by the way, for last year going to war with Iran.
I think it was $100.
It was somebody who might be listening to this show, and I never got paid.
I'll make a bet with you.
I'll make a bet that between August and the end of the year, there will be an attack on Iran.
Not by the United States of America?
Yes, by the United States of America.
No.
Will you take the bet?
By the end of this year?
Yes.
By the end of this year.
Let me think about how to...
We'll talk about it on the next show.
I want to stage the bet so it has prescriptions.
I don't want it just an open...
You know, some guy goes in there with one lone gunman goes in with a gun and starts firing away.
I don't want to consider that an attack.
No, no, no.
Let me think about how to do the bet.
I'll give you an edge.
Okay?
I'll give you an edge.
With this report, an armada of 11 U.S. warships and one Israeli vessel pass through the Suez Canal Friday.
The first of its composition to navigate the Suez Canal is led by the USS Harry Truman carrier and its strike group of 60 fighter bombers and 6,000 seamen and marines.
I would say that's a pretty good sign something is afoot.
We'll talk about it on Thursday.
I'll look into this.
I don't think that there just could be a saber-rattling.
Well, the saber-rattling comes from different places.
Agent France-Presse, U.S. intelligence has shown Iran could launch an attack against Europe with scores or hundreds of missiles.
Yeah, what a crock.
They had to photoshop their last missile launch.
I know it.
It's all saber-rattling, but to send the Harry Truman?
I don't know, man.
That, to me, sounds like something is a-coming.
And then the funniest thing ever...
This just cracked me up.
One of our producers sent this to me.
Politico is...
Now, how would you categorize Politico?
Politico is a kind of a Washington, D.C.-centric insider tip sheet for people who are involved with politics, mostly.
So they have a video series.
It's branded as a political video series, Reforming Wall Street.
Now, I'm going to send you this link.
It's too funny.
Hold on.
I'm going to send this to you in Skype.
I'll also post it into the chat room so people can read along and laugh.
Alright.
Did you get the link?
No.
You sent me the link on the Adam Curry thing, now you're sending it on the other one?
Yeah, I always send it.
That's my...
No, the last one you sent me, the last link...
Oh, here it is.
It's on the Adam Curry.
There it is.
I don't know why it took so long.
Now look at Skype, man.
Now tell me what you see that is very funny.
Besides Barney Frank?
Yeah, look above that.
Reforming Wall Street, a Politico video series.
Now have your eyes move to the right.
Sponsored by Citibank.
Yeah.
And then it's got Citibank over here, Citibank.
The whole page is Citibank.
Citibank, Citibank, Citibank.
Yeah, there's no conflict of interest there.
None whatsoever.
I love it.
I thought that was just hilarious.
Sounds like a time to invest in Citibank.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, under the radar...
Bloomberg is reporting that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which John, you and I own 80% of at this point, is going to need a bailout.
And the estimates are...
Did they already get one?
Oh yeah.
No, no.
It's going to need another bailout.
What did they do with the other money?
They ate it.
Please.
They estimate up to one trillion dollars...
Why don't you just give it to the public so we can pay these mortgages or get more loans?
I mean, this is bogus.
Of course it's bogus.
It's another hijack, and it's not even being talked about.
Bloomberg, luckily, is on it.
Bloomberg's estimate is $500 to $600 million, but it could be as high as a trillion dollars, according to Egan Jones Ratings Company in Pennsylvania.
But you're right.
It's atrocious.
And it's just bailing out banks more for the rich elites.
That's the thing that is so sad.
Alright, I'm going to look into change.org in the meantime.
Yeah, let's see.
Maybe one of our producers knows a little bit more about them, but even just to get that website address, I'd say, is quite a coup for a little company, and I don't even think they're necessarily a non-profit.
They have some non-profit work.
And more companies coming out with bracelets.
That, uh...
That's the business we should be in.
Yeah, yeah.
No, there's something coming because there's another company now that actually has a monthly subscription.
So it sends off your data to the database.
And, uh...
And this will be a part of the codex and the obesity and the scram bracelets.
It says don't drink, don't smoke, eat healthy, exercise, be a good human resource, slave.
Alright, on the next show we're going to talk about genetically engineered insects.
Nice.
That will be on Thursday.
All right, have a happy Father's Day, everybody out there to whom that applies.
Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, where June gloom seems to be over early.
I'm Adam Curry.
And it's sunny here, too, in northern Silicon Valley.
And although there's not a lot of trains today, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk to you again on Thursday for early morning service right here on No Agenda.
I woke up this morning with a headache, the worst I ever had.
I took some aspirin and some Tylenol, but I still felt very bad.
Went to the doctor, he couldn't do a thing for me.
It was then I realized what I wanted him to prescribe, medical marijuana.
It's the only thing I need Medical marijuana Don't need much but leave no stems and seeds Medical marijuana It's a versatile little weed And it soon will be in stock At the right end of your block Medical marijuana I
got a hangnail.
I got chronic pain.
I think I have glaucoma and a varicose vein.
Sweeping the entire nation is medicinal THC. And all you need Here's a note Some bullshit your doctor wrote Medical marijuana It should be sitting on the shelves Medical marijuana You could even grow it by yourself It's a weed Medical marijuana You don't
need nothing else And soon they'll have the best at your local CVS. You won't kill your family on marijuana.
You won't rob a bank.
You won't beat your children.
The worst thing you could do on marijuana It's a relatively harmless substance, difficult to abuse.
Unless you believe Rush Limbaugh that he's high on Vicodin and Bo's.
I walked into a Walgreens and I asked the pharmacist, what have you got for the common cold?
He said, how about Acapulco gold?
Medical marijuana.
It's completely natural.
Medical marijuana.
Whoa!
I think it's safer than Red Bull.
Medical marijuana.
A surgeon general said it's cool.
I'm not looking to get high.
But I'm glad I got a license to buy.
Oh, I got a neck ache.
I got bandrocks.
I'm depressed.
I got a pimple here.
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