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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
Yeah!
Coming to you from the northwest portion of Gitmo Nation on the Queen's birthday.
Hello.
This is no agenda.
That's right.
Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center backup location in San Francisco, California.
It's Adam Curry and hopefully someone else on the other end.
Hey, I'm here in sunny, as a matter of fact, peculiarly sunny Amsterdam, Gitmo Nation, Netherlands.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Okay, we've been at it for about an hour now.
Oops, there goes my microphone.
We've had nothing but technical problems this morning.
Yeah, it's rather weird.
But the one technical problem I didn't have is that the sun came out today, and this actually was an outstanding day here on Queen's Day, which is something of an event.
So let's get into it, man.
How has Queen's Day been?
This is your first experience?
It's the national swap meet in the Netherlands?
Yeah.
Well, let me just describe it or summarize for people who might want to check it out.
Infinite number of drunks.
You don't say.
And the funny thing is that all the parties are Wednesday night, and apparently the English are the worst offenders.
Oh yeah, they come over just to tear the town up, don't they?
So they come over, but then I'm told they come over for the Wednesday night parties.
They party all night, and then they keep going to the next day, and then they get kind of tired, I guess, because things start to crank up again around 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
And then by 6 or 7 or 8, they leave.
They don't come, they party for 24 hours, and leave.
But they do that every single weekend anyway.
This is just normal fare for the Brits.
They hop on the easy jets.
They bust on over.
They don't even get a hotel room often.
They just sleep it off on the street corner.
I'm telling you, I don't understand what a miserable flight it must be on an easy jet from Amsterdam to London after a weekend.
I don't know if you actually took advantage of the taxi Eric service.
Probably not.
Not yet.
I didn't have to.
Okay.
But he will not take anyone to an easy jet flight who's British on Monday morning or Sunday evening.
He won't do it.
Of course not.
He doesn't want to clean up his cab.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's nasty.
How was the party last night, man?
The one I hooked you up with?
I thought the party was good.
We got there a little late, so whatever drinks that were served into our little mini area were stolen.
What time did you get there?
Because I sent you a message saying you should get there by 9.
Yeah, I didn't get the message.
We were doing something else.
In fact, we were at dinner.
So I didn't get there until about 11.
Oh, you shite.
But the party, the real entertainment at the party didn't really start until midnight.
But it was a little packed, yeah.
Yeah.
But it was good?
Yeah, it was good.
I got to meet your friend.
Yeah.
She's taller than you.
Yeah, isn't she awesome?
Yeah, she's quite nice.
And, of course, she's like 6'3", and she wears a top hat and heels.
So it's like...
I hope you took a picture.
I had to stand on a box.
Hi, you're Adam's friend?
Hold on.
What's the weather like up there?
Yeah.
It's raining.
So anyway, when I left to come to this thing, to all this stuff, the weather prediction was it was going to just be raining all week.
And it just like yesterday, about 10 in the morning, it just stopped and it was actually cleared up and there's a blue sky.
Oh, that's nice.
Which is actually kind of interesting.
But the thing that's the most interesting about this, and I've got a lot of footage, which I'll post on the blog, is these party boats.
Oh, on the canals.
Yeah, this is the big thing right now during the day.
Yeah, and it's like everybody gets these barges and they load them up.
They overcapacitize them, as it were.
I mean, and I can say that knowing it because I got to witness a boat sinking.
It does happen from time to time.
Too many people on the barge.
Well, this was actually a smaller boat, and we're coming in.
I took a big boat tour just because I was getting tired of walking around.
I just wanted to relax.
And we're going through underneath where the Movin Pick is, which is the hotel I'm staying at, actually.
Which hotel?
The Movin Pick.
Do you know the street name?
It's right on the water, down from the...
Yeah, that helps.
Okay.
It's right on the water.
You know where the central terminal is?
The central station, yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, I know where you are.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, so this boat, I guess the guy was paying attention or something, and he rammed the pier...
And the boat, instead of just hitting the pier and bouncing back, it kind of ran up the pier because it had one of those curved hulls.
And the back went in the water.
Yeah, it went up the hill.
The back went in the water.
Everybody fell backwards, and then it was weighted down more.
And then the back went in the water, and it immediately sunk.
Oh, that is kind of funny.
Well, luckily nobody got hurt, but luckily there was a raft right near it, and so they just pulled over and picked him up, and then as we were leaving, I've got pictures of all this, by the way.
You'll find them quite amusing.
I was going to turn them over to the newspapers, but I can't get them off the camera.
But anyway, I'm going to blog it.
So we're leaving, and as we go through the whole, the under the canal thing, one of the police boats, I guess to go check this out, came roaring by at about 70 miles an hour, just rawr, rawr, rawr, with three cops in it.
You know, I figured they're going to investigate this thing, because it was actually...
It was actually something to see.
I wish I had my little...
I was shooting with the DSLR rather than the little movie camera.
On YouTube, it would have gotten a lot of attention.
It was actually quite interesting to watch it happen.
You can't get the pictures off your flash drive or your flash card because it's still hosed.
Is that the problem?
No, no.
Just because I don't have the converter to load it into the machine.
But I didn't bring it.
But anyway, it was interesting because when this thing sank, it kind of started taking over and then it went backwards first.
So the thing was sticking with the hull straight up.
It was like vertical and stuck in the mud.
Some girl was standing on the top of it.
She was just shaking like a leaf.
It's actually quite interesting.
But our barge stopped just in case they had to...
Pick someone out of the water.
Yeah, so they didn't move.
So I got to see the whole thing.
It was very entertaining of sorts.
Anyway, there's that.
But most of the time, it's just these boats full of 20-somethings with a disco.
They usually have a DJ on the boat and a sound system that's cranked way up there and playing nothing more than a loud beat.
And then everybody's kind of dancing on the boat as the thing goes through the crowds.
And there was a couple of traffic jams.
There must have been like 100 boats trying to get through this one underpass through one of the canal areas.
It was very entertaining.
The place is getting...
Right now, it's probably...
I mean, they're already getting drunk about 4 o'clock.
There was a nasty accident today.
I saw pictures.
A car that was...
I guess the queen was on her double-decker bus saying hi to her minions with other members of the royal family.
And then some car careened right through the crowd, killing two people, injuring 12.
Looked pretty gnarly.
They even killed four.
Oh, really?
Oh, jeez.
But the reports are real sketchy because the thing ran through these people and then it ran into a monument.
Although there was a bike.
The funny thing is, you see the movie, there's a guy on a bicycle just getting out of the way before it hits the monument.
He could have been crushed.
Yeah, but the car looks crushed before it hits the monument.
It, like, hits something before it even hit all those people.
It's really weird.
I'm not sure that's true.
I think that bounced off the monument.
I think all the shots of it are...
I'm not sure that that...
I'm not sure that that's true.
It seems to me like somebody had a heart attack or something, but they...
One of the early reports say they were out to get the Queen or the Worrell family, but...
I don't know about that.
It was a puddle jumper, you know, with a three-cylinder engine, and they were in a bus...
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not really a match, is it?
No.
So, I don't know what the deal is.
Well, that's sad.
That's sad.
Tragic.
That wasn't around here, though.
It was in Apple something or other.
Appledorn.
Appledorn.
Yeah.
Of course, it was a completely Masonic structure that it crashed into.
Oh, it was.
That's right.
You're right.
It's a complete obelisk.
It's a New World Order phallic symbol.
I don't even know what that is.
I have no idea what that monument is.
Yeah, I don't either.
But it's definitely Masonic.
Yeah, you see those a lot.
Yeah, particularly anywhere near the Queen.
Maybe this is all just a message.
Yeah.
Well, John.
Yes.
So I'm watching, by the way, just not to get...
Too much into the show yet.
So I'm watching, you know, there's this thing, France 24, it's like one of the stations out of France.
They have this news report on it.
I just saw it a few minutes ago.
And the news, the main news reader, you know, the Katie Couric of the station.
Of the station, yeah.
France 24 is so hot, it's unbelievable.
Oh, yeah.
And so then, I mean, she's just a blonde bombshell.
Right, so it's the French version of Fox News.
Yeah, and then they throw it, but it's actually better, because, I mean, this girl's better looking than anyone on Fox.
Yeah, but she has hairy pits.
Which, by the way, I have no problem with.
I'm not offended by it.
She smells of cheese and wine.
But otherwise, she's smoking!
And so she throws it to the business reporter that's going to talk about, you know, Chrysler, you know, has decided to go bankrupt.
Yeah.
Which has screwed up Fiat's plans.
And so they throw it to this other woman, Stephanie Antoine, and she's just as hot.
Yeah.
What is this broadcasting?
How did we lose our way?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, but the template is here, you know.
I've been sitting in hotel rooms for the past week, and of course, there's really nothing else on except hot babes doing news.
I mean, that's just what television has become.
I can't say I hate it.
Well, I think we should, you know, whatever happened to the nude news?
That still exists.
The naked news is what you mean.
Yeah, the naked news.
Yeah, no, it still exists.
It still exists.
I was watching it just the other day.
All right, so what do you got on the agenda here?
Well, of course we have no agenda.
Well, I think obviously we need to talk about the swine flu.
Yeah, my favorite thing about the swine flu is now they're saying, you know, we have to change the name of it because it's offensive to Muslims and Jews.
Well, you know, this whole thing...
Obviously, I have my own thoughts about this and some theories we should go through, but right off the top, you'd almost expect that this is just against the pork industry.
I mean, it's the way this thing is positioned.
And they are.
They're killing pigs now, I think, in Egypt.
They're culling the swine population.
No, they're not even sick!
Yeah, I know.
This is ridiculous.
I think this is another vegan thing.
So what's the vibe over in Holland?
Because, you know, the in-laws are with the Lady Patricia back in London.
And so, of course, they're calling back to Holland and seeing how everything's going.
And the Dutch government, as far as I understand, is basically saying, oh, you know, we're not going to be affected.
Nothing to see here.
Move right along.
We will have no instances of swine flu in the Netherlands.
Did you hear any of that?
Yep, that's exactly what they're thinking.
How misjudged is that?
Well, that's just the way they feel.
There's a number of things I find peculiar about the mindset of the current mindset of the population here.
One is that, exactly, which is they don't think anything's going to happen to them, and it's not a big deal if it does.
Maybe one or two people will get something.
And the other thing is the Obama thing is quite unique.
I mean, everybody is so jacked up on this guy.
I know.
They're so smoking the dope.
It's amazing.
And it comes from everywhere, by the way.
I give a talk to a little group of...
But they will actually get angry with you.
I get Dutch people who get angry with me if I say, well, you know, hold on, there's a couple of things.
Oh, Obama is great.
And the minute I... Here's literally what I encounter in the Netherlands.
If I say, well, you know, I do have a few comments about our current president.
And then the first thing they say, you're just jaded, man.
You're jaded.
I'm like, what?
I'm jaded?
Jaded?
What does that mean?
I don't know what that means, but that's what it is.
You're jaded.
I'm like, no, no, no, no.
I'm an American and I pay attention to what's going on.
You slaves.
So, I got a minor amount of flack, but not anything like that.
It was mostly...
Because I started off my little talk about discussing the fact that they're trying to get legislation so they can shut down the net if they want to.
These are people that developed for the cloud.
So that got their attention.
Yeah.
But here's what you always hear.
Oh, really?
Oh, gee, I must have missed that one.
Oh, yeah.
Well, they missed everything.
But I did get some good...
Anyway, so they're very much...
And then the argument is, well, Obama's like, he's a good guy, you know, and he's trying to make friends.
And he's not belligerent.
He's friendly.
No, but that is true.
You can't argue it.
He's a friendly guy.
He's a friendly guy.
I got back...
So I went to New York for like 36 hours and went over on the red eye, came back a day and a half later.
And I was just in time to see the primetime, 100-day presidential press conference.
Did you have an opportunity to see any of this fantastic show, John?
I only saw the snippets and then the critiques, and then I had to watch the CNN coverage of the voting.
I saw that!
I saw that!
But you gave them an A, a B, a C, or a D, and it was all over the place.
I was flipping through the channels, and I saw an account in five more minutes.
I'm like, shit, what are they voting on?
What's Senate voting on now?
It's not Senate, it's the CNN audience voting on how the president did.
I'm like...
This is crazy.
John, this was, once again, a completely orchestrated show.
It was just unbelievable.
I can't believe that...
Do you know that when in Clinton's first term, also a Democrat, in four years, four years' time, he only did two national press conferences outside of the State of the Union, only two national press conferences, because the networks would not give him the airtime.
And Obama's had three in three months.
Yeah, he's going to have twelve before we're done with one year.
And it was thirteen questions.
We love him to death.
It was thirteen questions, and this was like a kindergarten softball game.
It was just unbelievable.
I'm sure you saw the question from the New York Times.
No, what was it?
Mr.
President, in your 100 days in office, what has surprised you?
What has enchanted you?
If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
Exactly!
What has enchanted you, Mr.
President?
I mean, come on!
What are these guys that the New York Times think in?
Is this like asking him what kind of tree does he want to be?
Or if you were a tree, what would you be kind of question?
Is this girl over 12 years old?
No, it was a guy.
It was a guy?
Oh my God.
It was what has...
Now I've got to paraphrase.
The enchanted thing is just what floored me.
What has excited you?
What has enchanted you?
What has surprised you?
This is Oprah?
This is not a press conference.
It sounds like Oprah.
Yeah, no, that's exactly what it was.
And it was slick, you know.
By the way, I'd like to point out one thing.
I only have one observation from this show, because it was a complete show.
I mean, it was set up.
It was 13 questions.
The president calls on people.
He doesn't even know where they're sitting.
He just has a list, you know, and he knows exactly what each person is going to ask, more or less.
It's got to be.
And he just times his answer.
You know, it's like, well, I've got 50 minutes, you know, so I'll just time my answers.
He's got a big clock on the wall, and so, of course, the enchanted question is lovely.
You know, he took his time on that one.
By the way, the answer is our servicemen and women.
He said, I wouldn't use the word enchanting, but...
Okay, whatever.
Okay, so then they all raided him.
The American public gave him a B+. So off of that for a second, since I don't think we should even...
It was a charade.
We agree, right?
We agree wholeheartedly that it was a charade.
Just disappointing, angering, John, I'm sorry.
It just angers me.
The press conferences, I mean, Helen, for God's sakes, Helen, Mr.
President, she's sitting in the front row continuously.
She never gets to ask a question.
She's never called on.
Here's the point I wanted to make.
When the doors open and the president walks up that hallway, up to the podium, It's a beautifully lit hallway.
May I just point out that not a single one of those light bulbs in those chandeliers is one of those frickin' mercury-filled, energy-saving light bulbs.
Why don't you get some of them ugly-ass, electricity-spewing, mercury-filled light bulbs in the White House?
Hey, White House, Mr.
President, start that.
That's a good one.
Yeah, it pisses me off.
You can tell.
You can tell by these light bulbs.
They're not energy savers.
Oh, yeah.
No, they're soaking it up.
Yeah.
They're going to have to do cap and trade.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
But you didn't get to see.
Well, I didn't get to see.
That's what you say.
Yeah, go ahead.
You saw it?
You saw Night...
What is it called?
Night...
News Night?
I don't know what you're talking about.
No, I didn't see News Night.
Okay, News Night on the BBC this week.
They had a complete documentary on PowerShift09.
Oh, nice.
Now, PowerShift.org, people can go out there and check it out.
It's a Green Activists...
And essentially, the government has taken over this particular conference, and they loaded it up with Obama people.
The keynoter was the EPA woman, Paul Podesta, one of the staffers, one of the major staffers.
You know, second in command of one of these other guys.
It looked like the organizer from the way they had this thing structured, the way they did the show, this documentary.
Bill Clinton was there.
Everybody was loaded up.
They were loaded up with these guys.
So I'm watching this thing thinking, well, this is just another.
And they got all these kids.
It's a bunch of young people.
And they get them all pumped up with, you know, this green, green, green, green, green stuff and, you know, global warming.
And so then they jump to showing some of the behind-the-scenes seminars.
You know, they always have the breakouts.
Oh, of course.
So the breakouts are training the kids on civil disobedience, resisting arrest, How to do sit-ins properly?
How to lock arms?
How to do passive resistance?
Wait a minute, let me get this straight.
And anybody who happens to be one of those people, I'd like to ask a question.
Since when does the government train the youth to do these sorts of things?
The first thing I thought of was either Nazi youth or the young kind...
Wait a minute, this was American youth or British youth?
The first thing I thought of was either Nazi youth or the Young Communist Party.
This is training the youth.
Well, when is the government training the youth?
Wait, wait, wait.
Was this British youth or American youth?
I'm confused.
American youth.
This was all Americans.
This show, as you know, is a British show.
But this was in the United States, this meeting.
And it was our government training kids how to do sit-ins, how to lock arms, how to resist arrest.
But against who?
Resisting against the government?
Oh, there you go.
Apparently not.
I would think it's resisting against big business who doesn't do what they're supposed to do.
Oh my goodness.
That's the only thing I can think.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
It was stunning.
I was shocked.
I saw Rahm Emanuel, he was interviewed on CNBC, and I didn't see the whole interview, I just saw a sound bite, but one of his answers was literally, you know, we're in a fantastic place right now where there's an opportunity to figure out what the relationship really should be between big business and government.
I'm like, oh my god, the guy's just out and out saying it.
They want to have control.
There's got to be some kind of takeover or some kind of relationship.
Yeah, and if you don't knuckle under, then the kids are going to be sent over there to protest, sit in, you know, harass you, essentially.
This is harassment.
I mean, they're training the kids to be harassers because, you know, it's just people who haven't signed on to 100% of the green initiative.
And, of course, the whole thing boiled down once again because of the keynote and everybody else brought it up.
Cap and trade, cap and trade, carbon credits, carbon credits, cap and trade.
So let's talk about cap and trade for a second.
It was unbelievable.
We've got to talk about this because while these, and we have to get back to the swine flu eventually, but the swine flu, whether intentional or not, is definitely a beautiful piece of cover for the legislation hearings that are going on right now in the U.S. Senate.
Al Gore on the stand.
And there were a couple of Republicans who were tearing him a new one.
And it's about cap and trade.
And we talked about this on the last show, where I think the representative was asking about his involvement and was he going to make money on his...
Any out and out lied.
Any out and out lied.
Now, let me just bring up this video.
This is from...
Earlier in the week, and hopefully we've had some massive problems with our connection, so I hope that playing this is not going to screw up our Skype connection.
In fact, it's even coming up really slow.
You still there?
Yeah.
Okay.
I hate this.
God, I can't wait to just be back in the regular Gitmo Nation East where shit works.
All right, here we go.
These are the hearings on climate change legislation.
So this is a very big deal.
This is where the taxes and indeed this cap and trade, whatever that may be, A. Now just listen to Gore, man.
You've just got to listen to some of the shit he's saying.
And I'll probably have to skip around a bit on this.
As we debate, what I agree is a very important piece of legislation, a piece of legislation, in my opinion, and many others, would have very detrimental effects on our economy if it was implemented the way it's been drafted.
We've been trying to get a quantifiable grasp on the cost of this bill, how much it would actually cost American families, how many jobs would be created and lost.
And we've number one on the side.
Created and lost.
All right, so I'm going to have to skip around on this.
So Al Gore, he's testifying.
That's not a cutesy issue.
It's not an open issue.
And it's your opinion.
Obviously, you've stated it many times.
It's the opinion of the global scientific community, and more importantly...
Alright, now I have to back up, because there are a couple of things that Gore says here.
So he's basically being attacked by these Republicans who are saying, you know, hey, this global warming shit, you know, it's not even proven.
And Gore goes into this tirade about the science is not discussable, it's undisputable, everyone agrees, is what I'm trying to find.
Who have given completely different views.
So I would encourage you to go back and look at the testimony this committee's heard.
There are people who still believe that the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona.
Are you there, John?
Yeah, this is unbelievable.
Somebody would throw that in.
That's a speechless bunch of crap.
I mean, can you believe that he...
So the guy says, look, there are people who disagree with global warming, and he comes up and he says, oh, please, there are people who...
By the way, I happen to be one of them.
There are people who believe we didn't land on the moon.
Now...
I'm going to see if I can get to the piece that just blows me away.
If not, I'm just going to paraphrase it here.
And neither of us are one of those, and I know you like giving those cute anecdotes.
This is not a cutesy issue.
We're talking about people that can export millions of jobs out of our economy, out of our country, and testimony has been given just to those numbers.
And so we're talking about a serious consequence that there would be on this country and the carbon leakage that would occur where the carbon would be admitted, but it would be admitted in China and In India, and the jobs would go to China and India.
So what Steve Scalise is who is saying this, what he's saying is cap-and-trade, and of course no one really understands what cap-and-trade is, cap-and-trade is essentially where there's taxes and an entire exchange of carbon emissions That will result in not actually spewing less emissions into the atmosphere, just moving it away from a country.
So instead of it being spewed out in the United States, you trade these carbon emissions, the right, like a license to emit lethal carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, so China or some other country would buy those up and they'd just spew the shit in the atmosphere.
And the whole point is...
That this actually isn't going to do anything for the environment, but that it's going to do a lot for people who set up the exchanges.
Now, here's the point, and I'm sure I just can't find it, John.
You're still there with me, right?
Oh, yeah.
You've got to listen to...
Proposal in any way, shape, or form.
It's near the end.
Crap.
This is so poorly produced.
Play.
Ladies and gentlemen, we don't always produce it well.
I know the reason in answering your first question is why can't we ignore it?
Because it's the biggest crisis we've ever faced.
And no one who's come before this committee from a scientific basis can show us the smoking gun that mankind is causing this to happen.
You can create relationships between the number of sunspots and the partisan makeup of the Senate.
Anything can be proven if you're willing to take the time to have the numbers.
Let me just go to another point because it was a terribly important...
Could I respond to that?
No, I need to make this point.
Dr.
Abt, who was with us yesterday, and he said it so eloquently that we have to focus on reducing carbon dioxide...
Okay, so I can't find it, but in this...
In this bit.
It's like nine minutes.
Listen to this.
So one of these guys says, well, Mr.
Vice President, I understand that you took several meetings with Ken Lay during your vice presidency.
Ken Lay, of course, of Enron.
And that he was a major advisor on the initiation and the founding of your cap-and-trade system.
And Gore comes back, and this is what I wish I could find for you, and I just didn't have the time with whatever to set it up.
What he says is, well, yeah, sure I had some conversations with Ken, but I didn't call him Kenny Boy.
I didn't know him that well.
I didn't call him Kenny Boy.
So...
Right here is such a gem of information that the people who set up the fake trading system that turned off the lights in California, responsible for actual deaths, people who've fried in their homes, that the exact same scam is being set up for the so-called cap-and-trade.
So that's really, it's like setting up a new Nasdaq or a new, you know, a new electronic trading system.
Like with oil, exactly!
What oil thinks are these scammers?
And Gore, and by the way, did he eat himself?
That guy's huge.
He's big.
He's a big boy.
But he is...
Hey, by the way, if you remember from last week, fat people are responsible for global warming, so he should be ashamed of himself.
I'm sorry I didn't have all of that set up.
I thought it was a much shorter clip.
It's like nine minutes.
But if you watch that, and you've got to watch Gore's expressions.
He's like, you know, sighing.
Yeah, he's like a 12-year-old.
And rolling his eyes, like, you guys are nuts.
And this is proven.
There's no dispute.
And we're all going to die if we don't use my cap-and-trade system.
Ugh.
So I'm just, I'm really, really...
You seem annoyed.
Well, annoyed, but, you know, so we have this swine flu that's...
Right, 236 cases worldwide.
By the way, for people who don't know the stats, about a half a million people a year die of the flu.
Yes, 36 to 40,000 people in America alone.
We have 236 cases of this flu worldwide.
Worldwide, yeah.
So, and everybody's freaked out.
Oh, here, so I'm watching this thing, because I was watching CNN the other day, and all they talked about was this.
They're trying to panic the public.
I think these networks should be ashamed of themselves.
They should be giving people good advice and making them learn things.
John, networks, networks, newspapers, radio.
I mean, there are people on this.
I've traveled.
There were people in the airport wearing face masks.
This is crazy!
I have the swine flu!
I'm getting over it!
I'm fine!
Oink!
Oink!
I got a tail!
I feel good!
I had a sweaty weekend!
I coughed!
You know, I'm alive!
So here's the...
So I'm watching CNN... And they're cutting from place to place to place, and here they go.
They cut to the reporter in Virginia, of all places.
I think it was Virginia, because it was CNN. He just, you know, basically stepped outside.
Well, I guess they're actually in Atlanta.
But anyway, so there's a reporting from back east somewhere, and he's wearing the mask while doing the report.
You know, he's like talking through the mask with his doing his report.
There's nobody around him.
There's nothing else going on.
And he's got this stupid mask on.
And I'm thinking, what?
This person's crazy.
They should fire somebody like that.
So there's a very interesting parallel to be drawn, a very similar situation.
In fact, it was Congressman Ron Paul who I heard speak about this just the other day.
And he finds this whole situation interesting because in 1976, there was an outbreak of swine flu in the United States.
Exact same scenario, except it didn't, a little different because it didn't originate in Mexico.
It actually originated on an army base.
And some of our listeners will remember this.
There was the same thing.
Oh, you know, it's horrible.
We've got the pandemic.
People are going to die.
And yes, one or two people died from the flu, whether it was swine flu or whatever variant.
But what was worse is they rushed through these bills to vaccinate everybody, which Ron Paul, who was probably just a congressman at the time, voted against.
Obviously, is one of the only two people saying, hey, you know, we shouldn't be in the business of health care, you know, or.
We're not doctors.
We don't know what we're talking about.
And what happened is 25 or 30 people died, actually, from the vaccinations.
They had to stop the vaccination program.
Do you remember that, John?
Oh yeah, I think it was more than that.
In fact, I was working at the time when this happened for the government, and one of the guys in our office got the swine flu because of the vaccination.
Well, because the vaccination by definition is the virus.
You are given the virus.
Well, apparently they put too much in.
Oops, sorry.
Sorry about that, buddy.
But I still think that the idea that there's a big stockpile of Tamiflu may have something to do with this.
Oh, although the smokescreen theory is good, too.
Whatever the case is, the public is so stupid that if they think that eating pork has anything to do with this disease, this is an issue with the education system.
The public has been allowed to become so stupid that they don't know the difference between an airborne disease and eating cooked meat.
As a transmitter of a disease, it's almost ridiculous.
Well, you know, but John, it's conditioning, it's training, and so I call home.
And you know my wife and my daughter, they know what we talk about.
They know my stance on this stuff.
And throughout this, she calls up and says, Hey, what's going on with the swine flu?
I said, Oh, honey, I got it.
Don't worry about it.
I'll be fine.
I got a cough.
I'm getting over it.
In fact, I am much better.
She's along for the ride, and then all of a sudden we go to level five.
I called her last night, which was early this morning, UK time, and And she's like, well, you can hear that she's bought into it because she's conditioned by the way the whole news cycle works.
And now we're at a very interesting point, which will be of interest to me because it concerns my family.
But now that we have Level 5, the World Health Organization sets these levels as one more level to go.
This my wife knows all too well, because Level 6 basically means, we're fucked!
Head for the hills!
So 5 means all countries should enact or activate their pandemic flu programs, which means, once again, we're going to get into the probably obligatory vaccination realm.
And I will tell you, That I will not take a shot.
Why would you?
If you already had been exposed and had gotten over it, it would be stupid.
Well, it's the same education thing.
People are stupid.
And I have to say, people aren't stupid.
They're conditioned to be stupid.
And I know that when it comes down to it, if there's forced vaccinations, my wife will take the shot!
And it scares me.
I don't know what to tell her.
And she's like, oh, come on.
She's like, oh, yeah, I know it's not all that bad.
It's just a flu.
This is because this is your fault.
It's my fault.
It's totally your fault because you take these crackpot positions on everything, with no exceptions, and so then she doesn't take you seriously.
She doesn't take me seriously on any of my crackpot positions.
You're only crackpot.
That's the problem.
You're too consistently crackpot.
I'm not only crackpot.
So let's go over something else that's kind of interesting in regards to this exact same story.
Can I just say one thing on this just to finalize this one issue?
So we're going to do a hedge, essentially.
The hedge strategy is she takes the shot, I don't take the shot.
Hopefully one of us will be alive to take care of our daughter.
That's the hedge!
You've already had the swine flu, you said.
So you wouldn't need to take the shot anyway.
It's not much of a hedge.
I know, but even that, she doesn't believe.
Oh, you don't have the swine flu.
See, of course, I just had a version of the swine flu.
Whatever flu is running around here, and I know other people who've had it.
You know, it could be pretty...
Yeah, you know, it's actually possible.
So let me bring up the story that makes this a little more interesting to me.
Because as anyone who's listened to the show knows, I advocate everybody have a dose of Tamiflu or Relenza with them if they travel around and they don't want to really have to go through these symptoms.
And I explained how this product works.
I know you don't like the idea, but this is essentially it.
So this guy, Marco, one of our producers as a matter of fact, Marco in Portland goes to the doctor at Kaiser.
And he's got the flu, or his daughter does, or somebody does in the family.
I don't have the letter in front of me.
And he says he'd like to get a Tamiflu for this flu.
And the doctor says, no, we're not giving out any Tamiflu.
And he tried to get it.
I just need a prophylactic.
Maybe to prevent getting the flu in the future, I just wanted a prescription for the Tamiflu.
And the doctor refused to get it, give it to him, saying that they can't, at this point, give out any prescriptions for Tamiflu without clearing it through the CDC. The CDC? The CDC? They're in control of this?
I thought Napolitano was in charge of it.
Isn't this the Department of Homeland Security business?
I'm just telling you what he told me.
I mean, maybe, you know, I backed him up and said, hey, look, I bet you that's just Kaiser, because if I'm not mistaken, when you get a prescription from Kaiser, they cover, like, most of the cost of it, and Tamiflu's really expensive, and they're just saying, you know, they probably had meetings saying, look, there's no slain flu around here.
This is bogus.
We're going to have people coming in here getting Tamiflu.
It's going to cost us a fortune.
Our numbers are going to go in the toilet.
Just tell them no.
Make something up.
I don't believe in a minute that the CDC has anything to do with prescriptions.
If somebody out there can document that, I would be very interested.
So, you know that President Obama immediately asked for $1.5 billion in emergency funding for vaccination.
You heard about this?
Yeah.
Okay, so that pissed me off because we know in the budget there's already $4 billion already built in for stockpiles.
Why do we need this additional $1.5 billion?
I don't get it.
These guys are spending like drunken sailors.
It just blows my mind.
It absolutely blows my mind.
So anyway, position of this show...
There's really little to worry about, and I just don't understand why the media is on this.
Are they literally that programmed?
It can only be a few things that are actually happening.
Either A... The government knows that actually it is horrible and we're all going to die throwing up blood in the streets.
Possible?
I don't know.
Or it's just a complete scam and apparently most of the news media is in on the scam or everyone's so desperate for any inkling of ratings to make some money that they'll just do whatever and they don't care.
I mean, I don't see any other option.
I like the guy with the mask.
I mean, I wish I had that on tape.
I'm taking shots of it, pictures of it.
So I think it's a combination of all those things, and also the stupidity factor.
There's one other element that's cropped up, and I'm not absolutely sure.
This cropped up late in the game.
And I think it was done as a mistake or something in some way.
I don't know that...
I mean, this flu apparently is an H1N1 type.
You can have the variety of the way these things are pieced together.
You get these different kinds of flus.
And H1N1 is the kind of flu that was...
Also called the Spanish Flu, which is the one that killed 40 million people around the world in 1918.
And we know we dug one of those guys up to take DNA just a few months ago.
And that brings up two other points.
Actually, it was longer than that.
We had that guy dug up, I think it was almost a year ago.
Time flies when you're having fun, what can I tell you?
It brings up a couple of interesting points.
One, I only picked up on the H1N1 thing recently when they were trying to rename the flu.
In other words, this thing got started, it got underway, and it all of a sudden got the name swine flu.
And so then they say, oh shit, we forgot to bring up the fact that it's H1N1. We can freak them out with that.
You've got to have an H and an N in there.
You've got to have those HN numbers.
How are we going to do that?
We can't use that now.
He says, yeah, we can.
Swine flu insults Muslims.
Change the name.
Change the name.
Right, right, right.
There's nobody, but the first thing they said, well, we could call it Mexican flu.
You can't do that.
It's very insulting.
So anyway, so they tried to, but they couldn't manage it.
So nobody knows it's H1N1. So that whole propaganda thing is just blown out of the window.
Now, the other thing is that if you remember when this thing first cropped up, there were two or three scientists that came in out of the blue and said, this thing has been structured.
Yeah, it's been engineered in a lab.
There's no way that you can just have this unless you've got birds screwing pigs.
Exactly.
Which, by the way, I think I've seen that movie on my hotel on demand.
You have to take a quick break because I have a knock at the door.
Oh, and of course I don't have my jingle ready because I'm just happy we've got all the stuff hanging together here.
It's been a very challenging technical show, this one.
Are you back?
Okay.
In the morning!
While John is getting the knock at the door, I might as well tell you that there's a...
No, I want him to listen.
You back?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, okay.
So, on April 22nd, CNN reported...
April 22nd is before it hit our shores, right?
April 26th?
Yeah, I think so.
Report.
Vials of a potentially dangerous virus have prompted an army investigation in the disappearance from a lab in Maryland.
And it was vials of the Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus.
A virus that sickens horses and can spread to humans by mosquitoes.
Now this is all interesting because we know that there were 21 polo horses that died around the same period.
There is just so much, certainly circumstantial evidence, that says that this has been...
You know, engineered somewhere.
My God, Baxter International, the company that admitted that they put live bird flu virus into flu vaccinations, which was caught by the distribution company and was luckily, as far as we know, not distributed to people, they're the ones that have been tapped to make the vaccine for the swine flu.
I mean, does it get any more transparent than that?
Well, it's not transparent to anybody, apparently.
Except us.
Yeah.
And then, of course, just to make sure that it was possible that this mystical virus spread to Europe, they had a couple of vials of the stuff explode on a train in Switzerland.
I love that one.
Oh, I didn't get that story.
And I'm over it.
No, it was in Das Bild, which of course does fantastic reporting, the German Bild magazine.
I'll read you the article.
I thought I sent you this on email.
I was so blown away by it.
I Twittered it and it got retweeted a lot.
According to police sources, a technician from the National Center for Influenza in Geneva was traveling to Zurich carrying eight glass containers, five of which held the swine flu virus.
Of course, you want to put that on a train, don't you?
The containers holding the virus were commissioned by the Federal Office of Public Health for the Geneva Center in order to develop a test to detect swine flu.
The vessels were, according to reports, securely packaged three times and hermetically sealed and cooled with dry ice.
And here it comes, John.
The packaging of dry ice, however, was clearly not done properly as pressure built up in the container during the journey.
At 6.39 p.m.
shortly before the train arrived at Freiburg Station, there was an explosion!
So this flu exploded from the dry ice on the train.
I mean...
Unbelievable.
Yeah, that's one way of getting it out.
Let's put a container with dry ice in it and heat it up and see how long it takes for blows.
It's...
Now, of course, Mexico received $200 million from the World Bank to help with their swine flu issues.
Sanofi Aventis, I mean, there's so much, and all of this is in the show notes, by the way, at noagenda.mevio.com.
You want to look through a lot of these.
Sanofi Aventis announced on the 19th of March, before all of this started up, An agreement with the Mexican authorities to build a 100 million euro facility to manufacture influenza vaccine in Mexico.
I mean, could it be any more clear that this thing is just all...
May I remind people that one of the major shareholders and former CEO of the company that makes Tamiflu is Donald Rumsfeld, one of the most evil guys in the country.
Do people even know this?
Nobody cares.
They just don't care.
So, yeah, well, anyway, that's our flu thing.
And I think it's, you know, people should, you know, my wife's freaked out.
She's like, I guess, like yours.
You know, she's, oh, you know, I'm worried, you know, because her friend Teresa was in Mexico, Ensenada.
Yeah.
She's not even Mexico.
She's coming back.
That's like being in Austin, man.
Come on.
And you have the 263, yeah.
260 or 236 known cases worldwide.
And I just say, people, this is another thing with the dumbing down of the public.
Do the math.
We have 350 million people in this country alone.
Yeah.
120 people a day die on the US roads.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
So, yeah, I know.
It's just amazing to me that, again, you know, people just don't, they just think everything's, you know, there's three people in the world, they're one of them, and the other two are sick, and they're going to die, and they're going to pass it on to them.
And I just don't see them, understand it quite, but, you know, it's just the way it is.
So what else do we have on our list?
Oh, I got one for you.
This is a topper.
Okay.
Hit me.
So I'm going to all these fancy restaurants throughout Holland.
And I will have a report.
Yes, good, because I'm sure I've been to a few of them and I wouldn't mind hearing it.
I'm finding that they're so much the same, all the top ones.
I mean, in terms of decor, in terms of the way they present the food, and in fact, the scraper thing is even the same from place to place.
I find it distressing.
There's one consulting firm obviously doing all these great restaurants.
So we're at one of these places, and at the bottom of the menu it says, and I think we're missing the opportunity here, the hostesses are dressed by Max Mara and suit support.
Oh, shit.
The maitre geek is dressed by suit support.
Oh, excellent.
Yeah, this is an opportunity.
John C. Dvorak's wardrobe provided by...
Giorgio Armani.
Yes, to say the least.
Hey man, do we have any updates on donations?
I know you've been busy.
You might not have had a chance to log in and see.
Yeah, there's a few.
We don't have another night, but we have a few and I'll run through them on Sunday when I can put them together.
I did have one guy complaining that we shouldn't be getting any donations because we both have jobs.
And we are getting paid by our employer, so why do we need money?
I figured the guy's either 12 years old or an idiot.
Yeah, really.
And he says he'd never give us any money, ever.
Okay, well that's fine.
Because we're working, or we have other jobs, and so we shouldn't get paid for this.
We should be doing it free for him, I guess.
Can I just say one thing?
People really need to check themselves who think that way.
Because, yeah, we have jobs.
Do you know how hard I know I work?
I know every single person that Mevio works, including yourself, and you have multiple gigs and really only, I guess, part-time at the company.
But we are a small company.
We get no fucking tax breaks.
We get no TARP money.
We get, in fact, exactly the opposite.
And we're pushing to make shit work and to keep everything alive in this economy.
And around us, everyone is stealing money left and right.
And we're just trying to keep 60 people employed and their families fed.
Because I literally, these days, I see it that way.
And then people are going to talk shit about entrepreneurs and people who are just trying to keep shit running.
Check yourself.
None of this is helped by Sarbanes-Oxley, by the way.
But anyway, we do need your support and we appreciate people who do support the show and you can do so by going to...
Dvorak.org slash NA or the noagendalibrary.com.
And I just want to say that, of course, if you can't support us financially, obviously we're very happy if you tell a friend, if you redistribute the show, if you link to us.
And anything you can do to help is highly appreciated.
But just to say, oh, you got a job, man.
Yeah, indeed.
What are you, 12?
So I just saw the car again hit that monument, and it was damaged, I guess, when he ran over and hit somebody.
I told you, it hit something previously.
It looks like it careened off of something.
I don't know.
I think a person.
So anyway, yeah, no, we go to Dvorak.org slash NA, and we are still collecting weird numbers, and people are, like, you know, getting a kick out of that.
And although I think it's running dry, and we still would like to get more $50 and $100 donations where you'll get mentioned, and also, obviously, the knighthoods are always available.
So, anyway, back to the show.
The big show.
And we don't, by the way, we don't spend a lot of time.
I mean, if you did it by, I think that was like 45 seconds.
I mean, we don't sit here and go on and on and on for hours and on and on.
Which we're going to have to do eventually if we don't get more response.
Someone had an interesting idea emailed me.
I think you were copied on it and said, maybe one of the donation ideas, we could do a pledge drive and we could give away a meal with you and I. And I'm thinking, we have enough money in the kitty to actually, let's say, if we're both in San Francisco, we could take some of that money and fly someone out.
Yeah, we could.
We can arrange something.
I said that I didn't think we were together in the same town enough of the time to make that work because it has to coordinate with the other person too.
But yeah, we can come up with something like the dinner with Adam and John if you want to I'm thinking you'd give us $100 and get onto a lottery and then you get dinner with Adam and John or you could give us $200 and you wouldn't have to worry about the lottery.
You wouldn't have to go to dinner with us.
You stepped all over the punchline.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I fucked that up, didn't I? Yeah, that's okay.
That joke is an old setup.
I can do it a million times.
Letterman has the swine flu, by the way.
This I know you don't know.
No, I don't know that.
Yeah, he was on.
It was amazing.
I've never seen anything like this in my life.
He was on.
He had lost his voice completely.
I'm not talking, like, just a little bit, John.
It was like...
And he was standing.
I'm like, why is he even doing the show?
And it was so bad, he had the cue card guy do the opening monologue.
Then he tried to do the top ten, and he couldn't get through it.
And he said, Paul, why don't you do the top ten?
Schaefer does the top ten.
The guy cannot speak.
Then he has Jennifer Gardner comes out.
So everyone was really nice and they got him through it.
But I couldn't watch it.
Because when you can't talk, then your timing is off.
He was really...
He was like an old man.
Which he is.
But he was like a really old man.
And I couldn't believe he was on the air.
And it was complete swine flu.
Something happened to Leno, and he was hospitalized.
Oh, yeah.
He had a great joke in the monologue.
It's so nice to be here to watch some of that stuff.
He went to the hospital, and everyone's freaking out, of course.
If Jay Leno goes, then NBC really has no programming.
They have nothing to draw in any ratings, and they're about to move him to this new 10 o'clock time slot in the States.
Some people thought I had a heart attack.
Some people thought that I had...
Food poisoning.
He said, but in reality, you know, I had had the erection for more than four hours and I really needed professional help.
It's funny.
Yeah, I thought that was a good one.
So talking about that kind of thing, another letter writer, and I don't have it in front of me again, because I don't have enough equipment here.
I'm in a hotel, so I don't have these screens I can open up.
But somebody did send a nasty note talking about NBC programming.
Law and Order Special Victims Unit, April 29th episode with Hilary Duff.
You know about this.
Yeah, yeah, go for it.
Okay, so the story's about a mom whose daughter dies...
And she covers up to death.
She dies of, I guess, measles.
And she covers up to death and then she gets caught as a murderer.
And then it turns out that it was her daughter died of measles and she just couldn't deal with it.
And then they found another girl who had measles and her mom didn't vaccinate her against measles.
And so they indicted her for homicide because of her negligence.
Because if she didn't vaccinate her daughter, which she should have done, and her daughter gave measles to the other girl who died, then the woman is directly responsible.
She's guilty.
And they ran this story, which by the way got a lot of flack in the various forums.
Which is a disgusting story to run because it's a bogus story.
They never had measles vaccines when I was a kid.
We all got measles.
Yeah.
You got the measles, you got over it, and you went back to school.
And here's what the funny thing is about this particular episode.
So I decided to look it up on the NBC website.
It's not there.
No, it's there.
Well, no, it's not yet because it just hasn't posted yet, but it will be.
But what was interesting is on the website, there's a bunch of ads on the right-hand side.
Oh, let me guess.
MMR? CDC. Oh, Jesus.
A callback to an earlier part of our show.
The CDC has an ad on the NBC site for adult measles vaccine.
Adult measles vaccine?
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
I knew you'd love that one.
Does no one see what's going on?
Are we not aware of what is happening before our very eyes?
One time I was talking to my doctor about all of a sudden the hepatitis.
I have a doctor who's fairly organic and he doesn't believe in a lot of stuff.
In fact, he takes acupuncture courses.
I was talking to him because I said, I was just reading about a hepatitis B vaccine.
I said, hepatitis B, is that the one people got me?
What is the purpose of that vaccine?
He said, don't take it.
He says, unless you're just working with blood 24 hours a day, what is the point of this vaccine?
Okay, wait.
Here's the topper.
I'm still not here.
You're not done yet.
I'm in...
Well, I get to Europe.
You know, there's a lot of action here I don't see.
These are slower back there.
Oh, shit.
All I got is Letterman and Leno and swine flu.
I mean, that's all the inputs I'm receiving here.
Okay, so I'm working with a software company, and they're connected to a lot of agencies, and I'm told the following.
According to Spanish military intelligence, Al-Qaeda.
They believe Al-Qaeda is target for the next big event because they do them every eight years, right?
The 2009 events coming up.
Oh, right.
Yeah, sure.
It's time.
Ding, ding, ding.
Al-Qaeda is targeting Spain because apparently the powers that be in the Spanish military intelligence actually believes this to be true.
They're still irked about the fact that the caliphate doesn't still own Spain, and they decided they're going to take them back because they knuckled under so easily when they had the trains.
Remember, they blew those trains up?
And the next thing you knew, they voted out the guy from the president.
The guy was actually standing up for our invasions.
They got him voted out because the Spanish knuckled under, so they figured they're going to try to take him on.
Unbelievable.
Could be true.
Anyway, that's a little insight.
We'll see.
From Gitmo Nation, north-north-north-west, from Canada, it's hard to track everything.
You can't take your eye off the ball because even though we're very unsuccessful at combating this horrible swine flu, the pirates, of course, still reign.
Off the coast of Somalia.
And one of our Canadian producers sent me this article.
Because of course every country in the United Nations I might add is sending huge warships over there.
And what are the Canadians doing?
You've got to love the Canadians.
They have a new tactic.
Here's what they do.
They fly helicopters near the pirates with a sign that says stop in Somali and it works apparently so they have a big sign that says stop you pirates stop in Somali and it works well who knew?
it's unbelievable That is funny.
Of course, because it's just kids.
You know, it's just 18-year-old punks.
Like, oh, all right, okay, we'll stop.
All right, I'm sorry.
By the way, that brings up another point, which is what happened to that guy that they brought to New York City?
It was just grandstanding.
You know, that's all a part of the media show.
There's no follow-up on this.
No, of course not, because we've got swine flu.
Why would we want to follow up on anything else?
Please, give me a break.
From the world of aviation, the Dutch released, I guess, another preliminary report on the Turkish Airlines crash.
And so now they haven't actually given us a transcript or a copy of the...
The flight data recorder or the cockpit voice recorder.
But the alarm was going off well before they were in any trouble notifying this crew that the altimeter was off.
So they knew it.
Because what happens is you get a ground proximity warning saying, you know, literally a voice in the cockpit says...
I'm trying to think on the Boeing what it says, but it's like, warning, ground, 50 feet, something like that.
And they could see that they weren't at 50 feet.
So these guys knew what was happening.
They knew that the altimeter was off, and still this horrible accident takes place.
There's so much more to that one, John.
It stinks.
Apparently.
It stinks.
Completely stinks.
See, this is why I'm so grumpy when I'm back in the San Francisco Bay.
You're starting to sound like me.
I'm not grumpy, actually.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Yeah?
Yeah, well, now that the bird flu is over.
And, of course, I missed the presidential flyby in New York by one day.
That was a shame.
That was quite a...
You got that news, didn't you?
Oh yeah, they flew a jet around and now it's a big scandal.
That's another, don't look here.
Oh yeah, nothing to see here.
I so do not believe the story that, oh, we were just doing a photo op.
I mean, I just, I can't believe it.
It's just, it's not true.
Something else happened.
Well yeah, and here's the reason that you're probably right.
And here's the reason.
Why would they tell the New York Police Department, point blank, not to warn anybody this was going to happen in advance so they could be aware of it?
They made a big deal out of it.
They said, no, you cannot tell anyone we're going to do this.
What would be the point of that?
And then New York police, who are always distrusted feds, said they're not going to listen to these guys anymore ever because they ended up eating crap over the thing.
And we're talking, by the way, for people who don't know, they took the...
Presidential 747 and flew it around the Statue of Liberty for photo ops in the middle of the day and it freaked everybody out.
In New York, of course, everyone's skittish.
People were evacuating their office buildings.
Yeah, they were freaking out.
And so meanwhile, then the follow-up to this is that Obama was livid.
You know, who says Obama wasn't on the plane?
He could have been.
I don't know that he was limited either.
I think he was on the plane and something happened and there was a reason to divert.
And when the news reports came out, it's like, it was the backup plane.
What do you mean backup plane?
I've never heard of a backup plane.
As far as I know, there's only one Air Force...
Well, any plane the president is on is deemed or is codenamed Air Force One.
But this was the plane.
I don't think we have two of them.
I never heard that we had two of them.
Well, of course, we have two Obamas, so it would make sense that we have two Air Force Ones.
Well, the funny thing is if they do have a second one and they've never mentioned it before because of security reasons, what was the point of blowing it by telling everybody there's two of them?
Let's watch the way they backpedal on that one.
Yeah, and Robert Gibbs, he immediately was asked in the daily press conference, he's like, I don't know.
His answer was even better than that.
He's like, you need to talk to the White House.
Well, who the hell are you then?
So you've got to ask the White House.
Isn't that you, dude?
I don't get it.
It is him.
What is that?
And I'm sure you probably didn't see the...
Finally, we got one on tape.
The Obama teleprompter gaffe.
Oh, by the way...
Yeah, yeah.
We do have that.
I think there's going to be a lot of those in the months to come.
By the way, I don't think that Obama was diverted because they told the New York Police Department way in advance of that fly around...
And that's when they told them they couldn't mention it.
Because they actually had clearance for it.
That's my understanding.
I think they were doing it just to see if they could scare the public.
There's something screwy about it.
Well, what's interesting is I immediately, of course, I go to try and find air traffic control reports.
If you've got an F-16, and I only saw one, but apparently there were two, and you've got the President's jet doing low flybys over Manhattan, the rest of the air traffic has to know about that.
I couldn't find anything.
I couldn't find any reports or any restricted airspace or anything like that.
It's very strange.
And just to say, oh, well, yeah, oh, I'm sorry, it just doesn't cut it with me.
Something else, and I don't have the jingle on standby, but definitely nothing to see here.
Please move along, folks.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, they need to do some explaining, but nobody cares because of swine flu and bombas 100 days.
I will charge PCAST with advising me about national strategies to nurture and sustain a culture of scientific innovation.
In addition to John, sorry, I just noticed that I jumped the gun here.
Go ahead and move it up.
Move it up.
I had already introduced all you guys.
In biomedicine.
And he just goes on like nothing happened.
Well, he's going to fire somebody over that.
I mean, what does it take to move the teleprompter around accurately?
Because, of course, these are all electronic teleprompters.
Back in the day, I actually used one that had a conveyor belt with a camera hovering over it with pieces of paper that were slid underneath it.
That was the original teleprompter idea.
Yeah.
It's pretty easy for a page to pop up or some flunky was in.
I mean, it's easy to screw that up.
You see it happen all the time.
In fact, watch any of the news networks and you see it happen continuously.
And they'll even say, what are we doing?
I love that CNBC Mark Haynes always says, and what are we doing now?
Yeah, no, there's a way to cover your ass when the teleprompter blows up.
The time I was at Tech TV once and the thing dropped dead on me.
Just dead.
And it was a live show.
And it wasn't coming back.
And so I had to read from the cards.
Or actually the sheets.
Yeah, which is good practice anyway.
You should be able to do that.
Yeah, you should.
But the funny thing is, it was the first time it ever happened to me in my life.
So I did a crappy job of it.
Because I wasn't prepared.
But the next time, it happened again about a year later.
And I was solid with it.
And that's why actually when I do Cranky Geeks, I don't even use a prompter.
I just go right to the cards.
Yeah, you're such a professional.
No, it's just fun to do.
So if I was a professional, I'd have a college degree.
There's a punchline in there somewhere.
I'm sorry.
My jokes aren't.
I've been in the wrong time zone to be funny.
Yeah.
It's hard for me too, man.
And by the way, I'd just like to point out that people who live on the west coast of America, Gitmo Nation Northwest, are completely clueless and do not give a rat's ass about the rest of the world.
And I'll prove my point.
I work in London and people set up meetings that involve me that are like three in the morning.
There's never ever one single bit of consideration for this little thing called time zone difference.
And at 6.30 this morning, my freaking phone rings, and it's John C. Dvorak like, hey, good morning, are you ready?
Are you ready to do the show?
Like, what?
And I said, John, it's 6.30.
I'm like, oh, I must have miscalculated it.
What is it with Americans that do this?
People on the West Coast, even like, oh, well, I've got to call London.
Oh, that's really expensive.
People still think it's expensive to call overseas.
But it's so hard to calculate eight or nine hours time difference.
Did you not get enough sleep?
It's just rude.
Your wife is so right.
You're a rude bastard.
Oh, you didn't get enough sleep, and you're grouchy.
You need a nap.
Yeah, I do.
I need a nap big time.
Oh.
I think that wraps us up.
Actually, now we're going to both be on the West Coast, and the funny thing is when we're both on the West Coast, even though the connection will stick.
Yeah, the connection will suck more than usual.
It'll suck.
Okay, well, I have a feeling that we're missing all kinds of stuff.
Let me just have a quick look through.
You're so right.
Often I'm sitting over there in Gitmo Nation East and I'm surprised that you don't know about half the shit that's going on.
But when you sit here, there is literally nothing.
Do they print a different version of the Financial Times here in the U.S.? I mean, this thing is full of crap as well.
Is this just the U.S. version or is this international?
I don't understand it.
You have no news here.
No news!
Yeah, no, I know.
I've been trying to tell you this, and you just keep...
You'll get back over here, and again you'll forget.
Well, at least I won't forget the eight-hour time difference.
Okay.
You can take a nap.
I can take a nap now.
All right.
Only one more week, my friends, and we'll be back to our normal schedule and our normal places and our normal show prep, and we'll have things a little more set up.
So apologies for the timeliness of the program, for the interruptions due to Skypeology, and there you have it.
That's right.
So what's the deal?
When are you flying back, man?
I'm coming back Saturday.
Okay.
Can we do Sunday's show at a normal time?
Like what?
I don't know.
I need a nap.
Can we not do it at 8 in the morning?
I don't know.
How about 11?
How about 11?
It's Sunday!
Alright, 11's okay.
I can do 11.
No one else will care.
Everyone's fine with it.
I think even this show going up late, probably more people are interested because we normally do it so damn early.
Okay, so conclusion, John?
Conclusion is the same as last week.
The swine flu is questionably of importance, and we could use your help at dvork.org.
egg.
Yes.
And I'm confused.
Never mind.
I messed up the timing of the...
Here, let me do this.
Okay, great.
I'm sucking.
Coming to you from an undisclosed backup crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in San Francisco, I'm Adam Curry.
And here in Amsterdam, old Amsterdam, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will talk to you again on Sunday, probably around 11 Gitmo Nation West time.
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