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	Okay, we're good to go.
	I have not written an intro, which is probably best.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Hold on.
	Somehow that didn't sound right.
	Did it sound weird to you?
	Nope.
	It sounded like...
	Hold on.
	Something's wrong.
	Hold on.
	Quit that.
	It sounded good.
	No, it didn't.
	Well, for me it did.
	Well, it was subtle, but I could hear it was a digital...
	It was, like, downsampled.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's try that again.
	Let's try that again.
	Ah, man, I can't...
	Fuck.
	That's still not right.
	Hold on.
	Oh, I know what it is.
	There we go.
	That's what was missing.
	Now it should work.
	Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.
	It's raining in San Francisco, better known as Gitmo Nation Northwest.
	It is Sunday, time for another show!
	This is No Agenda.
	Coming to you from my undisclosed secret location in Gitmo Nation Northwest, the backup Crackpot Command Center.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the same rainy, gloomy, somewhat depressing gray northern California, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Oh.
	You know what's interesting?
	It's actually in the morning.
	For both of us, for once.
	Well, it's actually, you know what?
	It's always in the morning someplace.
	That's right.
	And it's always happy hour someplace.
	Yeah.
	Hey, John, it's good to have you back in my time zone, my friend.
	Yeah, well, you know, I had a long trip.
	We went to, I'm going to put a restaurant review thing, and we went to, I went to probably half the country and went to all these, you know, lunch and dinner at most of the high-end restaurants in Holland.
	Oh, geez, man.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	And I discovered that there's obviously one or two consultants that are dominating the scene because you go to one, two, three, four, five places and you run into the same kind of formula from place after.
	I mean, we're talking about, you know, good places, the food's good.
	But the formula gets really depressing.
	I mean, they have, it's all black and white is basically the, is the theme.
	The white tablecloths with white platters and white dishes, everything's white.
	And then, yeah.
	If you flip them over, they're all Villery and Bosch.
	That's the same people who make the toilets.
	And one place did have Wedgwood, but it was still white.
	And then they have the same routine of this and that, and I'm going to write it up actually as a review of all these restaurants because I found it distressing.
	I think people go, they're expensive.
	There's a bunch of Bentleys parked out in front, Ferraris and these kinds of things in all these places.
	And you go there and it's just like, gee, I mean, this is like a cookie cutter.
	And I mean, in fact, to the point where we're talking about going to like 14 places of this caliber, and they all use the exact same sweeper for sweeping the crumbs.
	Of the tablecloth?
	Yeah, exactly the same brand.
	And everybody had the same one, and it was a little thing that swept, and then you held it up vertically and then tapped it a few times, and the ashes went into the handle.
	Oh, no, but this is a very Dutch thing.
	It used to be for ashtrays.
	And it was kind of like an ashtray with a lid on a handle.
	Is that what you're talking about?
	No, no.
	It's like one of those little crumbs scrapers.
	Yeah, crumbs scraper, yeah.
	Only it's got a hollow handle.
	Oh, okay.
	And there were two sizes.
	And by the time we got to restaurant 14 or 15, we were taking bets on what size they were going to bring out.
	So wait a minute.
	You weren't even there for...
	I mean, you didn't have dinner at all these places.
	You weren't there for 14 dinners.
	No, I'm talking about dinner and lunch.
	So we hit him for lunch and then dinner.
	So I was there for like 14 meals.
	So you got the names there?
	Can you just give me a couple names just so I know what you're going to review?
	No, they're not on this machine.
	Do you remember any of them?
	One name?
	The names are all so Dutch, I can't remember any of them.
	I have to look at the name.
	There wasn't one name like the Chateau.
	No, it's not a very Dutch word.
	It's like these Dutch names, and you look at them.
	Now, in fact, I'm going to have to get back, because the guy I went with, he put up a Google map showing where the spaces are.
	I didn't realize how far flung they were.
	Oh, excellent.
	But I looked at all of them today, and now I'm going to have to find out what the order was, because I can remember the restaurants by the order, but I can't remember the names when I look at these names.
	It's like, oh, God.
	Here's another thing they all did.
	Every one of them is a member of some club.
	And these restaurant gourmet clubs, and it's like the Young Chefs of Holland is one of the clubs, and only it's in Dutch, of course.
	And these guys are, and these different restaurants are in two or three of these different clubs.
	And actually, one of the places that I went to, when I opened up the book, that's when I first saw the formula, black and white.
	And because all the restaurants, they had pictures of all the interiors, and this looks like the same place.
	Right.
	But anyway, the thing is, the classic is you go in the restaurant and they lay out the table and there's the book on the table.
	And it's their club.
	And so you look through and see all these other restaurants that are all like-minded.
	Just like the one you're in.
	Yeah, and it's, you know, I found it distressing because, I mean, the lack of variety, and even the food was served the same, you know, the same kind of, it's very, very, I hate to tell it, be too critical, but this is very much like kind of dead Nouvelle cuisine style.
	Well, yeah.
	The food pushed up vertically, you know, so it's, you know, a little mountain.
	Yeah, so it's high.
	So it's high, which is, come on, that went out 10 years ago.
	That's still considered chic in Holland.
	Yeah, and then dots of crap all over the place.
	Like, ooh, did someone have a bloody nose over my plate?
	Dot, dot, dot.
	And then a couple of lines of stuff.
	Squirrelys.
	Squirrely lines.
	Yeah, just give me a sauce dish, dude.
	That'll make me feel much better.
	And then when you get to the cheese course, none of these guys really wanted to specialize in Dutch cheeses.
	And I know there's better cheeses than the one or two they had.
	It was all French.
	And I'm thinking, I'm coming to Holland and I don't go to Holland with French cheese.
	No, of course not.
	I still feel bad that it all messed up and that I was out here and you're out there, but I think you probably saw much more of the country than you ever would have seen with me.
	To start with.
	Yeah, well I was being hosted so I got to see a lot.
	And I went all over.
	When you see the map you go, guys, it's like you were just on the road all over.
	Because Holland's not very big.
	I think you can go corner to corner in like an hour and something.
	No, two hours.
	Okay.
	So one of the things I did see though that I was kind of impressed with is I went out to the windmill farms.
	And where they have the power.
	I actually went to the old-fashioned windmill.
	Do you remember which?
	Because there are a couple of windmill farms.
	It's the one that's pretty north to the west.
	Lelystadt, perhaps?
	Maybe.
	Could be.
	It's on the map.
	There's a lot of them.
	I'll send you a copy of the map.
	You can figure out where I went and tell me.
	What's what?
	So yeah, there's a lot of these windmill things.
	You can see them when you're flying over.
	And actually, I got some pictures from the hotel room of Amsterdam shooting out over the water.
	And then you can see in the background a slew of these things.
	And these are all third-generation, fourth-generation windmills, and they're fantastic.
	Yeah, but in general, I find these farms to be pretty ugly.
	It's not an attractive area where these things are located anyway.
	It's wind-blowing.
	Yeah.
	The thing is, apparently, the bird lovers, you know, we went and looked at a couple of the big ones, and the bird lovers are moaning about killing all these birds, and somebody points out that cats in Holland kill three times as many birds as the windmill, so we should ban cats.
	Each of these windmills, this actually started as a big scam, of course.
	And I'm not against the idea of wind power.
	I just don't think that...
	I'm not convinced that it delivers enough actual energy for us that it makes a lot of sense.
	These windmills are pretty expensive.
	A million dollars.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Some of these really big ones.
	And every single one of them is its own financial entity.
	Yeah, apparently a farmer who has the land to put a windmill up, if he can afford to put the million for a windmill, he's retired.
	Yeah, but there's also, it's an investment vehicle, because you get all these tax breaks, and there were ministers of parliament who were in all these, because these are companies, basically.
	Each windmill is its own corporation.
	Yeah.
	And it was a big scandal, big scam, and it's really not that hard to understand once you see what's going on.
	I just don't know if they deliver the energy or not.
	I had the father of modern wind power on my show years ago when I did real computing on public radio.
	And he convinced me that it's not only a good idea, especially the new third generation windmills, which we don't have any of in the United States except one, maybe one or two.
	He said that the state of North Dakota could power the entire U.S. grid by itself with wind.
	Hmm.
	That's kind of what Slim...
	What's his name?
	Boone...
	Slim Pickens?
	Boone Pickens.
	Boone Pickens.
	Slim Pickens.
	Slim Pickens.
	Yee-haw!
	Wind power, everybody!
	Well, actually, it's kind of the same guy.
	Yeah, that's what he's saying.
	He's saying the exact same thing, that that could power...
	Did you read that we discovered this huge, massive natural gas field in the United States?
	This was in the news a couple days ago.
	Where?
	Let me look it up.
	It was enough to give us energy through 2050 or something like that.
	There's also a huge oil field under North Dakota where the wind is, apparently the size of the Saudi Arabia oil fields.
	That's unbelievable.
	And of course, this wasn't actual news that really got reported.
	No, nobody wants to talk about oil.
	This was natural gas.
	I don't want to talk about anything that burns because of the CO2 carbon footprint.
	Here, check it out.
	This is from Wall Street Journal.
	A massive natural gas discovery in northern Louisiana heralds a big shift in the nation's energy landscape after an era of decline.
	What's an era?
	How long is an era?
	A period of time.
	Well, good reporting, Wall Street Journal.
	Too lazy to fucking look it up?
	After a period of time of declining production, the U.S. is now swimming, swimming, says the Wall Street Journal, in natural gas.
	Swimming.
	Swimming.
	200 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, the equivalent of 33 billion barrels of oil or 18 years worth of current U.S. oil production.
	Hmm.
	And, uh...
	I think we should use some of that.
	Don't we want to reduce our dependence upon foreign energy?
	Isn't this a perfect way to do it?
	No, we don't want to do that.
	We want to just stop all energy use and use hamsters and generators and live in a cave.
	We're getting there.
	Live in a cave.
	Oy vey.
	So you're in a better mood than you were last time?
	Well, I've done some soul-searching.
	You're depressed on Thursday.
	Yeah, but I've done some soul-searching, John.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, brother.
	There's nothing like being in rainy San Francisco to tug at the heartstrings and being in your hotel room You know, you can't turn on the television because it's...
	Oh, by the way, I figured it out.
	It was so, so frickin' obvious.
	I can't believe we overlooked this.
	Do you know what last week was in the world of television?
	No, what?
	Sweeps.
	Oh, a sweep, sweep?
	Yeah.
	So, no wonder swine flu hit the top of the charts.
	Of course.
	Sweeps, sweep, swine flu.
	My wife pointed out the fact that, you know, if this was like a dry run to see how the public is going to react to a genuine pandemic, as opposed to this bull, she says it may be you creating a crying wolf situation, so when people actually really do have to be careful.
	Then we'll be like, eh, nothing's going to happen.
	This bull last time was bull.
	In Hong Kong, I saw that they quarantined hotel guests for a week.
	I'm like, can you imagine that?
	I'd be stuck in this shithole for a week.
	You know what?
	The swine flu would kill people.
	Certainly one, namely me.
	Two to the head.
	I'd hang myself.
	Quarantine.
	Yeah.
	So, I was at the airport.
	I left Amsterdam yesterday and flew through Munich.
	And I'm going through passport control and there's a whole bunch of Japanese there wearing masks.
	Yeah.
	In Holland.
	Like, you know, it's a hot bed of swine flu.
	It's all over there.
	I flew to New York earlier this week and it was the same thing.
	There were plenty of people at the airport wearing surgical masks.
	It was pretty funny.
	Well, you know, maybe they're surgeons.
	So a couple of things we want to straighten up from last week.
	One is that we now, everybody wrote us about there's two 747 Air Force Ones.
	Only one designated as such, obviously, when the president's on board.
	I didn't know this.
	I didn't know they built a duplicate.
	And apparently there's two reasons for the duplicate.
	One, half the people say, well, it's a decoy.
	Like, what difference does it make?
	And the other people say, well, it's a backup in case one craps out and has to land.
	Obama can get right into the next one.
	That makes sense.
	That makes sense.
	Well, it's like, you know, Bill Gates has two limos when he goes around.
	He also has two Windows machines, I'm told, in case one craps out.
	They've worn two.
	Anyway, so that makes a little sense.
	But flying those two monsters, they stock them both up to the max and fly them all over.
	This has got to be expensive.
	He should stay home.
	When we really think about it, at the end of the day, this whole affair of the photo op over New York, it just smells like shit.
	I gave it some thought.
	Now, I got a letter from somebody that told me that one of our producers, I think he's a producer, sent a letter in saying that his pal, who was in a building that was evacuated when the things started flying over, lived next door to some other rooftop, and he says the military was set up there with...
	Military photographers with these huge cameras and these monster lenses, those big gray lenses that you get on it.
	The sports field.
	Sports lenses.
	And they were shooting like crazy, so I believe there may have been a photo shoot.
	So I gave it some thought, assuming that that was the case.
	And I'm thinking two things.
	One, what was the point of telling the New York Police Department not to say anything to the public at all?
	Yeah, what is the thinking behind that?
	Here's what I'm thinking.
	One thing, by the way, I think this is bad, but I think the only possible reason was because the thing was going to be so low flying close to the Statue of Liberty that a bunch of gun-happy crackpots would just take pot shots at it if they knew it was there, which is a possibility.
	You know, if you drive it back or you fly it back home and there's a bunch of bullet holes in the thing, you know, that would be kind of annoying.
	And also, if it got brought down, let's say, by something, it would be very embarrassing for the country, so you don't want to alert anyone.
	On the other hand, that's probably not going to happen, because people have some respect.
	I mean, the public's not completely a bunch of maniacs.
	Oh, and it's not like you couldn't shoot that thing out of the sky any time you wanted with a...
	But you knew where it was.
	Yeah.
	But the point is that they should have told the public for no other reason to give the public the opportunity for the photo op.
	To take some pictures.
	Thank you very much.
	And can I just say there is one third option they could have taken.
	It's called Photoshop, people.
	I mean, get a freaking clue.
	I wrote that down, too.
	It's like, why don't you just Photoshop?
	It costs like $350,000 for this joyride that could have been Photoshop for 50 bucks, you know?
	You really said...
	Oh, I'm sorry, John.
	Would you mind turning your speakers down just a little bit?
	Have a drink, everybody.
	All right.
	You're on to something very important there, because if...
	If this truly was a fly-by photo op, which, by the way, typically happens at air shows, because that's really the place you want to do that, and that's where the military always shows its shit, and the airlines, the manufacturers, I mean, that's the place to do it, but okay.
	Forget about just giving an opportunity to the American public to take pictures.
	Think about tapping into something there.
	If it was really true, and if I were pushing the buttons, and indeed there was some, oh, Air Force One needs some new headshots right in the middle of all the other shit we got going on, okay, I would say, you know what?
	Why don't we make this a big deal and show our pride?
	I mean, that's a...
	That is a beautiful airplane, and that thing symbolizes something much more than just a Boeing.
	It is a symbol of the leader of the free world.
	It's a beautiful, neutral, blue-white color scheme.
	We've got our lovely aircraft flying around it.
	We could have made that into a big 21-gun salute event.
	It would have been fantastic.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	I don't know.
	They just blew it.
	I think they completely blew it.
	And then this thing about Obama getting all bent out of shape, I doubt that.
	Well, this seems to be kind of Obama's M.O., and this is something that I'm noticing as a trend.
	And the way it works is his minions, and that would be everything from, let's just say, all the way up to the vice president, they come out and they say something completely outrageous or something, you know, they kind of set him up so that he can then come in and say, oh, well, you know, and Or, in the case of Air Force One, he can be really pissed off.
	You know, so you've got Joe Biden comes out and says, well, you know, I would tell my family to stay in the door.
	I'm protecting them.
	We've already got the nuclear shelter all on standby for the swine flu.
	And then it's, oh, well, you know, of course, Joe means, well, you know.
	But it seems to be a constant thing.
	He gets the setup.
	The press comes out and runs with the ball.
	And then he comes in and says, you know, he either...
	Dim's it down a bit or hypes it up, depending on what's necessary.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	This is definitely going on.
	So I went to other topics.
	So I went to Queen's Day.
	We did know that.
	Yeah.
	You have more?
	Did I mention I saw the boat sink?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because I thought I did the show on Thursday after Queen's Day.
	Okay, I saw the boat sink after, before I did the show.
	Let me try a topic for you, since you're struggling.
	No, I'm not struggling.
	I've got my list here.
	Yeah, but your list is from last show.
	We already know this list.
	I looked at the date of the last show.
	I said, wait a minute, did I do that show before or after Queen's Day?
	By the way, I got a huge blister from that damned event.
	On your what?
	On the bottom of my foot.
	Oh, from walkin'.
	Yeah, walking too much, I guess.
	You don't have good shoes.
	I had good shoes.
	I have walking shoes, but I guess it must have been some irritation.
	Maybe it was the high heels you were wearing at the party.
	I don't know, maybe.
	The pumps.
	Your pumps, dear.
	Your Pradas.
	So I have on this list...
	I'm sorry, I just got a visual of you and Pradas.
	Okay.
	I don't even know what Pradas are, so the visual doesn't work for me.
	Half the audience is on the floor, trust me.
	Half the audience doesn't know what Prada is either.
	They know it's some sort of an expensive shoe.
	I think they have more than one style.
	The devil wears them, baby.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay.
	You'll recall when we were in the first round of...
	Certification is not the word.
	Affirmation.
	Of, you know, cabinet members?
	What do you call that?
	When Congress has to approve them?
	Yeah.
	What is that?
	Is it affirmation?
	No.
	I don't know.
	Go ahead with the story, though.
	Okay.
	We don't need the term.
	Okay.
	So, by the way, the...
	Now I'm really spacing.
	Our brand new...
	I like the way you jumped in.
	Yeah.
	Sorry about that.
	Well, okay.
	Let me back up.
	So we were trying to get that guy in to be...
	Jesus, John, I'm completely spacing.
	This was about the...
	Help me along here.
	Do you remember the consensus that the consensus, which is going to be held in, I guess, 2010, or is it starting now, that that was moved into the White House, and that's the reason why they couldn't confirm the confirmation.
	That's a confirmation here.
	Ah!
	And then we didn't...
	It's funny, you get hung up on something like a terminology, and then it just takes you off track.
	It blows everything.
	Yeah, no, no, it blows everything.
	I wonder how that works with you.
	Lack of brain cells.
	So who was the guy that we tried to get in as...
	it was a Republican.
	Remember?
	Yeah, I can't remember who it was, but yeah, then he couldn't do it because he didn't like the model.
	He didn't like the model of the census.
	So what the census is is extremely important, and even in the Constitution, I believe, the census that says the census will be taken, but it's not supposed to be supervised by the White House.
	I presume that's supposed to be something that Congress sets up, and that's all on the up and up, because...
	When you take the census, which is essentially finding out who lives in the United States of America, and what are the questions, John?
	Age, religion, race, creed, I mean, whatever the basics are.
	Yeah, how many people live in the house and stuff like that?
	I had somebody come by the house the other day, I told you this.
	Well, interesting.
	Knocked on the door.
	Some little woman, she says, is this a single family dwelling?
	Because it's a big house.
	I said, yeah.
	Okay.
	And they left.
	Now, did she have a box in her hand?
	No.
	You sure?
	Because apparently, Acorn, our good old friend from Acorn, have been conducting parts of the census, and they are doing it with handheld GPS devices.
	So they're actually marking every dwelling with GPS coordinates.
	And, of course, is there also political data they take?
	Do they say, are you Republican or Democrat?
	No, I've never heard that.
	But I find that interesting.
	So they're kind of doing their own Google Maps thing, except they're literally mapping out down to the...
	They don't really have to do that because they can get that from the registration data.
	Then why are they doing it?
	I don't know anyone's ever asked Republican or Democrat.
	No, no, I'm sorry.
	Why are they going around with handheld GPS devices?
	Well, probably to mark your place in case the black helicopters have to take your place out.
	Hey, John, if you're going to start stealing my lines, then, you know, we might as well just stop right now.
	You've got to be faster than this.
	But I find that somewhat disconcerting.
	It doesn't, you know, they could do that.
	I mean, it's just the way it's going to be.
	What's the combination with Acorn that irks me, I guess?
	Because, you know, I haven't heard much good about those guys.
	Well, I don't know them, but I mean, yeah, I haven't either.
	There's some corrupt aspect to it.
	So we got a letter.
	You done on that subject?
	Yeah, I'm sorry it doesn't interest you.
	It's really not, it doesn't, because they could do this anyway.
	I mean, I don't see, you know, somebody coming to the house and clicking a button.
	I mean, they can just drive by and do it.
	Click, click, click is close enough.
	You know, the damned GPS thing is only good, you know, 10 feet away.
	Okay.
	It's not the one that does the millimeter stuff.
	Okay.
	You've convinced me.
	This is from John Henry.
	On Thursday's No Agenda, you told how Marcos was told that Tamiflu prescriptions needed to be approved by the CDC. You asked anyone with knowledge to write.
	And by the way, nobody wrote.
	Well, I guess nobody from the CDC listens to us.
	Not yet.
	I don't have any knowledge, but I do have an anecdote.
	In 2004 or 5, I spoke at a pharmaceutical conference.
	One of the other speakers was the regional director of the Food and Drug Administration, and I sat in on his presentation.
	One of the things he spoke about briefly was a new program to monitor the sales of certain medications in drugstores.
	The one I specifically remember was Imodium, which is an over-the-counter anti-diarrheal drug.
	Diarrheal.
	Yeah.
	Imodium AD. Anti-diarrheal.
	The way it works is that the pharmacy's point-of-sale system routinely collects information on every product sold.
	They do this for inventory or whatever.
	For certain drugs, such as Imodium, the information is also sent to the CDC. The CDC automatically monitors the information and knows that information.
	Port Angeles, for example, 100 bottles a week are normally sold as long as it's around the baseline.
	Nothing happens.
	But then all of a sudden, if there's a spike in Imodium sales, it will kick out an alarm, which could be an indicator of food poisoning or some other problem.
	The CDC then contacts hospitals and medical providers to investigate further.
	Huh.
	I thought that was, you know, interesting.
	That's not bad.
	Well, that's kind of a good indicator.
	Yeah, it sounds right.
	I'm not against that, as long as they're not, you know, connecting it to me who's taking a shit.
	Yeah, he says that there's no connection to the individuals.
	Okay, good.
	Hey, cut off Curry's toilet water.
	Cut off his water.
	We'll smoke him out.
	He's quite...
	You okay?
	Are you going to make it through the night?
	Geez.
	I actually wanted to ask you something on a quite serious note, and I decided to ask it in this program.
	Sure.
	Because in a way, it's an admission and I'm rescinding somewhat.
	Could you hook me up with some Tamiflu?
	My doctor is...
	No, I can't.
	Because my doctor, who's next door, is in Florida someplace, and I don't have his other number.
	You know, you should be able to get it from...
	Well...
	You got a stash, don't you?
	Can you hook me up with a couple pills?
	Come on, man.
	Come on, brother.
	No, you can't do that.
	You have to have a full prescription or it doesn't do anything.
	Man, brother, I need some Tamiflu, man.
	There's a doctor in the audience that lives around San Francisco Bay Area that will call you.
	He will send an email to adam at mevio.com.
	You can walk into his office and he'll get your prescription.
	Good.
	It's not really for me, but I'm...
	Well, you know my take on everything, but I'm really worried about my girls.
	So the thing, the interesting thing is you should be able to get it in England by the real lenses also.
	But it's not that simple because there are, you know, you can't get it.
	And the way the national health system...
	If you have a good doctor, a private one, you should be able to get your prescription.
	We have socialized medicine in England.
	You know, come on, there's a way around everything.
	Yeah, my way around everything is to ask my friend John.
	That's exactly what I was doing.
	If I could, I would.
	I mean, I'd just do it tomorrow.
	I'd get you a prescription for two rounds.
	Now, the thing is, although now it's kind of scarce because everybody's freaked out over swine flu, so now is not the time.
	It's bad timing.
	And nothing's going to happen.
	Anyway, the...
	I know, but...
	So I get a lot of flack.
	But even as the placebo effect, because I talked to my daughter.
	My wife's in Holland.
	She's doing her show.
	My daughter's home.
	She said, Daddy, I have a sore throat.
	Yeah, well, flu doesn't cause a sore throat, usually.
	But if you read the news reports, it's like, sore throat, fever, vomiting!
	If I start vomiting, will I have swine flu?
	You know, the kids fucking freaked out, man, about the way they've...
	I know, they've scared the public...
	It pisses me off!
	And not only that, but it's like...
	They evacuated her school!
	My kid's school!
	It's fucking ridiculous!
	They evacuated the school?
	They evacuated her school!
	She's on a five-day bank holiday now, because, well, you know, there might be swine flu in Guilford.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Likely, zero.
	So around here, all the Asians are freaked out, and they've all got swine flu because they woke up.
	You know, like the thermostat's up too hot in the house.
	Next thing you know, you think you've got swine flu.
	Yeah, you're just sweating like a pig.
	It's pathetic.
	I mean, you know anyone who's ever had the flu, which is most people, you know what the symptoms are.
	You can wait until you actually have a confirmation symptom.
	You don't want to start wasting this stuff at $100 a pop.
	And you wait for the point where you kind of show some real flu symptoms, which usually is a pretty bad fever.
	And then you take it.
	Jeez.
	Anyway.
	So anyway, I got a bunch of flack on Twitter and elsewhere.
	People like Dvorak are part of the problem.
	Well, agreed.
	I don't know what it's about, but yeah.
	We need the Tamiflu for emergencies.
	We don't need it for people having it just in case, which is bull.
	In fact, one pharmacist twittered me that it was probably not a bad idea if you're traveling a lot to have one round of dosage in your suitcase just in case.
	I'm in Holland and I'm supposed to get a doctor to give me a prescription.
	You can't even get antibiotics easily in Holland.
	You can't.
	I mean, you have to get a referral notice.
	I mean, you're absolutely right.
	I think you're right to travel with some kind of...
	I used to have Tamiflu because it was given to me once when I had a severe...
	I think I had a urinary tract infection or something.
	Is it used for that?
	No, it's only used for the flu.
	That's why it's called Tamiflu.
	Well, then why did the doctor give it to me?
	They probably just rack up the bill.
	I have no idea.
	It doesn't sound right.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	Just to rack up the bill.
	No, it's specifically an antiviral for influenza.
	I mean, maybe it does something else.
	Well, I had it.
	I remember I had it, and maybe it's because you thought I had the flu, but I had Tamiflu, and I used one of the doses, whatever, and then it basically expired, and I tossed them out, because it was years ago.
	Yeah, and you should have something like that around.
	Anyway, you have to use the whole thing.
	I mean, I've explained it before how this stuff works, and I'm not going to explain it again.
	Are you familiar with the Tavis Smiley show?
	Oh, I can't stand watching him.
	I've never seen this before.
	It's on PBS, I believe, right?
	Yes, yes.
	He's got that style of old-fashioned broadcaster style.
	He's got this kind of self of...
	It's kind of a weird affectation style of speaking that just bugs me.
	So you can imagine...
	By the way, I heard him give a public speech once.
	He's quite good, but I hate to hate his show.
	Well, you can imagine that when he had Prince on his show, That was just, of course, one big super love fest.
	I think they're actually privately, it seems like they're good friends.
	So I was amazed because, first of all, if I'm a fan of any artist, it's Prince for a number of reasons.
	But, of course, it starts with the music.
	I actually schlep around throughout my entire life.
	My vinyl collection consists of like eight Prince records.
	So I was like, wow, Prince is doing like an interview.
	And he was really calm and cool and collected.
	He was speaking.
	He was not speaking in his artist voice.
	He was dressed and talking like a businessman.
	And I'm watching the show.
	And he said some very interesting things about the record industry.
	That's why he's been so pissed off.
	And he's like, I still don't know how many copies Purple Rain sold.
	He's like, I got so fucked.
	He said, I got so screwed by the mainstream music industry, which of course is why he stepped out.
	But then he said he went on about chemtrails.
	No!
	And it blew me away, John.
	Actually, I think I have a piece of audio.
	I'm a fast learner, so I'm not going to read none of these on the air.
	I'm just going to ask you about this.
	Let me just see.
	It might be a little bit further on.
	For those who don't have the record, you can go to lowestflower.com.
	Can you hear that?
	Yeah.
	That's what you can hear of smiling.
	Yeah, it's a poor recording.
	Let me see if I can get this chemtrail bit.
	Hold on.
	And you'd see the United Nations feed, the direct feed from the United Nations.
	You'd hear them talk a lot about religion.
	You'd hear the Bible mentioned constantly.
	This is not what we're used to.
	Good is the same thing.
	Okay, well, fuck it.
	Let me just tell you what he said.
	This is the second week in a row you've had bad clips.
	Yeah, and this is why I can't wait until I'm back at home base, because this pisses me off.
	So anyway, all of a sudden he launched into chemtrails and said, you know, when I was a kid I used to look up at the sky and I'd see the airplanes go by and I'd see those trails and I'd be like...
	Wow, that's a beautiful man.
	That's an airplane.
	He said, and then I would see more and more of these trails, and then all of a sudden, I'd see people in my neighborhood just start fighting with each other for no reason.
	They're just getting all pissed off and angry.
	He said, I encourage everybody, everybody who's watching this, you've got to go find out about chemtrails because...
	Yeah, man.
	And I was like...
	What is with people like him and you, for that matter?
	Well, it has been admitted that the government has been saturating the air through chemtrails.
	I mean, it's not like that's a secret anymore.
	Who's admitted this?
	The government.
	I'll get you the documents.
	I'll get you the documents.
	It's completely admitted.
	Yeah, sure.
	Yes!
	Well, that's what I said.
	Put it in the show notes.
	I will.
	So, by the way, we had a vapor trail off of our jet coming over from Munich.
	That because of the position of the sun, the vapor trail was actually, you could see it on the earth.
	Really?
	As a straight line.
	I'll post it.
	I took a photo out the window.
	On the next show we do, which will be Thursday, you're going to eat crow, my friend, because I'm going to show you the documents.
	Crow's actually not bad if it's cooked in a slow-cooked...
	You are such a dick.
	But I'm not going to probably eat crow, because shooting crows around here is too much work.
	So I went to a Dutch grocery store.
	I'm going back to real news.
	I don't...
	You don't have any sound effects?
	Yeah, I do.
	Yeah, I do.
	Hold on.
	And now, back to real news.
	Turn that up.
	I don't think a lot of people realize that the Dutch buy these chocolate little pieces, little bits of chocolate, and they dump it on bread and eat it.
	Sprinkles.
	It's called hachelslag, which is Dutch for hail, and it's chocolate hail.
	And there's a ton of different ones.
	I mean, if you can go to the supermarkets, there's a whole section dedicated to this stuff.
	Yeah, there's milk chocolate, there's dark chocolate.
	And they don't just put it on bread.
	First, they put butter on the bread so that the sprinkles stick to the bread.
	And that's a main breakfast food of champions.
	I wonder if any other country does that, because the Dutch guy I was with said no.
	He says Dutch.
	They also...
	Are you familiar with Nutella?
	Yeah, but the Nutella, we have that at the Mevio office.
	Do people spread that on bread?
	Yeah, well, I mean, some people do.
	And then there's also, so you also have the colored haugelslag, which is...
	Yeah, I saw that.
	But then you also have mausches, which are small round balls, and they're either pink or white or blue.
	And you're supposed to eat those on a rusk, which is also very Dutch, by the way, a rusk.
	What is it?
	A rusk is like a round...
	Piece of toast, isn't it?
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's like round toast.
	It's like Melba toast.
	No, it's thicker.
	It's thicker.
	It's not like Melba.
	Melba would be more compact.
	And in fact, tradition in Holland...
	If there's a new baby in the family, then you go over to...
	They're really big on birthdays.
	Birthdays are huge in Hollywood.
	Oh yeah, this guy was complaining bitterly about the birthdays.
	Yeah, we can get into that.
	But if there's a new baby, then you go over and you have gestompte mausjes, which means these little mouse kind of hail things, which have then been put onto these rusks.
	And if it's a boy, you have the blue ones.
	If it's a girl, you have the pink ones.
	Yeah, I guess.
	These traditions are interesting.
	The EU is going to try to destroy them all.
	Oh, yeah.
	There'll be no more Rusks.
	So, because there'll be something, you know, they're not standardized enough.
	Well, we're going to celebrate Barcode Day.
	I like the idea of Barcode Day.
	When did you get your barcode?
	September 3rd, 1964.
	John, your barcode is so old, it's done in twigs.
	There you go.
	So I bought some of this real...
	They have this marshmallow candy.
	It's like a twirly thing, and it's got colors.
	It's very pretty.
	Oh, specky.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he says.
	It's...
	You eat it, right?
	It's a...
	It's a marshmallow.
	Well, it's not really a marshmallow.
	It's kind of like a marshmallow.
	But maybe it's a triangle shape?
	No, these are long sticks that are twirly.
	Yeah.
	It's so funny to hear you discover those little cultural things.
	Well, you know, there's nothing much else to do as far as I'm concerned.
	Travel, except...
	You're going to live?
	No.
	Travel, except...
	I need my Tamiflu.
	Catch some of these cultural things that are going on so you can see...
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's just fascinating to me that you would have a...
	You know, the way that people do things is...
	There was something I saw.
	In fact, I saw...
	Oh, yeah, this was a good one.
	I don't know the name of it, but you'll probably catch it.
	And I took a photo, and I'll probably post it.
	So we're driving along, and the guy says, see that thing?
	I forgot what it's called, but it looks like a huge basketball hoop, only it's set vertically or vertically, straight at you.
	And it's got a big bag, like a big net on the back of it, and you can drive by in your car and throw cans and bottles into it as you're moving.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It turns it into a game.
	It's fun for the whole family.
	I mean, I thought this was genius because, you know, people throw crap out the, you know, under the street.
	You drive along and you see one of these things and you take your beer can that you've got rolling around the car and you just chuck it into this thing while you're moving.
	Here's some Curry clan culture for you.
	It came from my grandfather.
	When we used to go on road trips, and of course, back when I was a boy, you went in the car on a road trip and you drove for eight hours to get somewhere for Easter weekend or whatever to go to see family.
	And in the car, we were only allowed to eat apples.
	And of course, it's like a bummer, right?
	I was like, I don't want to have just apples in the car.
	But there was a catch to it.
	Because if we only ate apples, then we were allowed to throw as many apples cores as we wanted at any stop sign.
	Which was kind of fun.
	Did that have to do with the...
	You mean you could throw it at the stop sign?
	Yeah.
	So we were only allowed to eat apples, but because of that, whenever we stopped at a stop sign, we were allowed to throw all of our cores at the stop sign.
	That's funny.
	Yeah, it was kind of cute.
	At the stop sign.
	Yeah, it's like, hey man, it's a stop sign.
	Give me another apple.
	I want to eat another apple because I want to throw it at the stop sign.
	It was smart.
	My parents were psychologists.
	What can I tell you?
	So let's see what else we've got on the list here.
	Well, just staying with the Netherlands for a moment, of course...
	I find it to be an interesting place.
	It's a very interesting place.
	It's always been the gateway to Europe.
	And it's always been a great place to beta test anything for Europe.
	In fact, when I was just starting out in the early 80s on television with music...
	I interviewed every single megastar and the less megastars in the music business from around the world because they all would come through Holland first.
	They would even come to Holland before they went to the UK, which of course geographically is closer to the States than Holland.
	So it's perfect.
	They try everything out there, every single thing.
	And as you know, this is...
	The Netherlands is a locked-down enslaved state.
	I mean, it's a complete police state.
	So, yeah, they try everything out there first.
	So, I know you brought back a newspaper.
	I've seen a couple other newspapers.
	But this guy who killed five people by driving through the crowd, through the barricade, and then eventually crashed into a monument, now it has been confirmed this was an attempt on the Queen's life, which, by the way, Pretty poor attempt if you're trying to kill the queen who's on a double-decker bus and you're doing it with a Suzuki Swift.
	I'm going to tell you who's going to win that match right now.
	But this is now confirmed as an attempt on her life.
	Well, the guy's dead.
	How can it be confirmed?
	And why is the guy dead?
	It's like two to the head?
	Yeah.
	Well, it was hit the thing.
	Yeah, actually, the accident didn't look...
	It didn't, you know...
	First, he had to hit that.
	There's a fence around that monument that he had to hit first, which would slow him down after hitting all those people.
	No, what slowed him down was the people.
	That's what all the dents in the car were.
	You hit a person, man.
	You're going to mess up your car, too.
	This is horrific, horrific pictures.
	There's one shot that every newspaper had and the guy is literally under the wheels.
	It's just so horrible.
	But what has really taken place is it has broken a major cultural barrier in the country.
	And I just had to stop for a moment and talk about that.
	Because this is the first thing my wife said.
	It's the first thing everyone says.
	This meme has been launched.
	These days are over is basically what it is.
	The days of the Queen and the flags and the kids singing songs and we're all safe and we're protected and it's a beautiful world.
	I blame the EU. It's over.
	Exactly.
	But it's being blamed on this guy now.
	Just like we can't take more than 100 milliliters of liquid on a plane because some guys supposedly were going to go blow up some planes, which turned out to be not true, not convictable.
	This guy's going to be blamed.
	Well, you're absolutely right.
	It's the EU. And let's not overlook the fact that the Queen of the Netherlands is one of the richest women in the world, owns the majority of Shell, and there's a lot of shit going on right now in the world of energy.
	And she has enemies, and I'm sure that there's crap going on.
	And this was a message.
	This was a real message, and they turned that around, and they've turned it into, okay, now we're no longer safe.
	In fact, I would say from a mass psychology point of view, this was a form of a 9-11 for the Netherlands.
	To usher in more protectionisms, more police, less fun, Well, they already have the less fun going on.
	I got a good shot of a shut-down coffee shop with the, you know, for sale sign.
	It's pretty good.
	No, that's sad.
	I got a lot of good photos.
	I mean, I shot, let's see, on the two cameras, I probably shot, I think I shot 600 pictures on the Olympus 510 and probably shot another 250 pictures on the pocket camera.
	Wow.
	Do you publish these or do you just...
	Yeah, I mean, I put some of the best ones up, and then the rest of them, some of them I turn into art.
	I mean, I just do different things with them.
	I mean, I have more good pictures than I know what to do with.
	That's the problem.
	You know, a friend of mine, whenever he does trips around the world from time to time, and he has a theme, and he takes pictures, and then he self-publishes a book after the fact, which I find to be so lovely, and he sends it to people as Christmas gifts.
	Oh, that's nice.
	And he writes a little travel dialogue, and he selects some pictures, and he has a map on the inside cover.
	It's really quite nice.
	Yeah, something I should do if I had more time in the day.
	Oh, by the way, what's the deal with...
	They've got this cheese in Holland that's got cumin in it.
	Oh, Komenikas.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I like that cheese, actually.
	It is good.
	You know what I was thinking when I had it?
	I was like, this shredded would be great on a taco.
	Yeah.
	Hmm, interesting.
	Well, they don't sell it shredded, typically.
	Typically, they sell it in thin slices.
	It's pre-sliced.
	Right, or a block.
	Yeah.
	But I'm just thinking, that's what I thought of.
	First thing was, like, shredded, it would be interesting on a taco.
	I'm going to try that.
	That's a good idea.
	Patricia makes tacos from time to time.
	That's a good idea.
	Oh, and then use that cheese.
	It'd be really dying.
	She doesn't like that cheese, even though it's a very Dutch type of thing.
	She's a major cheesehead, but she does not like the...
	And you say cumin.
	It's funny because they call it komeini kas, which, if you listen carefully, is ayatollah komeini.
	Oh, cute.
	Komeini kas.
	And the other thing, just a last note, until I start going through my photos, and then I'll see, oh, there's that.
	There's a lot of guys over there with your haircut.
	Yeah, it's back in style.
	I've waited long enough.
	And my shoulder pads are coming back, too.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So I thought you should know.
	Well, yeah, thanks.
	Not like I'm a trendsetter or anything.
	Well, you know, even a stop the clock is right twice a day.
	Congressman Ron Paul's audit the Fed House resolution now has 120 co-sponsors.
	Wow.
	Yeah, we're getting closer.
	How many do you need to have before it's like a lock-in?
	The majority.
	What's the majority?
	I don't know what's the number.
	How many in the house?
	Let's Google it.
	I don't know what it is actually.
	I mean, I can come up with a number.
	I think it's 300 and something or 400 and something.
	So that's close then.
	Damn.
	I think you need...
	Let's see.
	House of Representatives.
	I have to Google stuff now because...
	Because you don't know.
	No, because of that thing with Air Force One.
	I got so much email.
	Yeah, I got it too, and people get angry.
	I'm not sure guys know anything.
	And honestly, just my logical...
	Currently fixed at 435.
	Sorry?
	435 is the number.
	435, so you need 200 and something.
	But wouldn't that be awesome?
	Because, you know, and I've been kind of reading along the Campaign for Liberty is where you can read all about this, campaignforliberty.com.
	You need 218.
	You need 218, right.
	And it's...
	You know what?
	This could pass and they still won't audit it, so forget it.
	Well, I'm not...
	That, my friend, is being jaded.
	I mean, I... How can you say that?
	I mean, that...
	I just said it.
	True.
	I mean, I know you wasted half a carbon footprint on saying it, but if it passes, it will happen.
	It will happen.
	Then they'll get bad numbers.
	This reminds me of the old...
	I used to be involved in these lawsuits between AMD and Intel.
	And there's a process that Intel used to use, which was just...
	And you can see this happening all over the place.
	It's a model.
	It's a fractal.
	And, you know, you'd go...
	First, you'd have a big fight over some...
	In this case, it would be this law.
	Got it.
	Whether we can even do this.
	Maybe it's an unconstitutional law.
	So they fight, fight, fight.
	That goes on for a year.
	So then they decide, yeah, no, you have to do the audit.
	And in the case of Intel, they say, you have to turn over the diagrams.
	So Intel turns over the diagrams like two years later.
	After they fight that four more times.
	After they're fighting, fighting, fighting, and then they turn over stuff.
	And then it takes another year before AMD or whoever, depends on who's being sued, finds out that these are not the right ones.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well...
	And then they go back and say, oh, it was a mistake.
	We had to fire the guy who sent those, and then they go through another battle, and it just never ends, and nobody ever accomplishes what they're looking for.
	What's a disturbing trend that I only discovered when I started reading the documents of the Lisbon Treaty, which is the EU constitution disguised...
	And, before you say that...
	On the plane back, there's some channel that's being shown in the EU constantly talking about the big elections coming up in June and how important.
	And then they have all these men on the street with a microphone on their face.
	Oh, I'm so happy to be voting for the first term.
	In Europe.
	We're one Europe.
	Aren't we great?
	Aren't we cool?
	In the Lisbon Treaty, it clearly states...
	That the European Central Bank and all of its employees are not only indemnified from any prosecution, from any court anywhere in the known universe, but all of the buildings, archives, and anything contained within these buildings are sovereign.
	Sovereign, John, cannot be invaded, audited, visited, Any form whatsoever.
	And that's exactly what the Federal Reserve, of course, got in 1932.
	I don't know if it was in the original act, but there's gold trading going on between the Federal Reserve and other central banks that is unaudited that we don't know about.
	Hey, man, that's our gold.
	I'd like to remind you, it's our gold.
	Our gold.
	And they're trading it, and we'd have no idea to know how much or for what price or who they're trading it.
	Well, we kind of know it's with China and that China's buying everything up.
	But that would be such a good start.
	Really, at the end of the day, if you can stop these cracks from screwing with our money, then, wow, a lot would change.
	Follow the money.
	They don't say it for nothing.
	Well, I'm glad you're optimistic.
	Well, I have to be optimistic, and this is the soul-searching that I've been doing, John.
	I've been thinking, obviously, my tact, my approach is not working.
	We have a great show.
	We talk about all the things that piss me off.
	And of course nothing happens.
	We just do another show the next time.
	What do you expect to happen?
	Well, a good friend of mine said to me just the other day, he said, you know, you get too angry and people don't hear you through the anger.
	So I'm trying to Jack Nicholson-ize myself.
	I've got to do something.
	I've got to change and I've got to pursue certain things.
	And I like this audit, the Fed, that's something I can really stand behind.
	It's a legal process.
	Are you going to get depressed when it never actually gets on?
	No, of course not.
	No, because that's not the stance I take.
	It will get audited.
	If we can get this thing to pass, and I encourage you to call your congressman or woman, your representative in Washington.
	It should be fairly easy to find out who that is and call them.
	Don't email them.
	Call them and say, hey, would you please support Ron Paul's bill to audit the Fed?
	At least let's get it passed and then we'll take the next step.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	No, I think it's a good idea.
	Will you march with me?
	Why not?
	What difference does it make to anybody, whether it's audited?
	Why would the Fed not want it to be audited so they can get their money?
	Because it's secretive and they're stealing our shit.
	That's why.
	Well, that's what you think.
	Oh, right.
	You don't.
	I think...
	Please.
	I don't.
	We literally borrow our own money back from those guys.
	And what the hell is that all about?
	Well...
	I heard that...
	Who took over from Kennedy?
	Was it Johnson?
	When he was assassinated?
	So what I understand is that Kennedy had signed a bill that in essence was going to rescind the Federal Reserve Act and that he was assassinated and on the day that he was assassinated, Johnson of course assumed the presidency and he struck that bill.
	He got rid of it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	This story's been going around.
	Is that not true?
	Have you ever looked into it?
	You know, I saw some documents that indicated that it was some coincidence.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's possible.
	Wasn't it Lincoln who started with the greenbacks, which of course was another way of removing the banks from the process?
	I don't think Lincoln really was that...
	There's a beautiful statue of Abraham Lincoln.
	I mean, it's like, you know, everybody wants to assume that these guys were...
	I mean, Lincoln was shot by a nutcase and Kennedy was too.
	Sure.
	Oh, a nutcase.
	Right.
	I was walking through San Francisco the other day and I don't remember where I was, but there's a...
	A beautiful statue of Abraham Lincoln.
	And it's kind of like life-size, so it's not a huge thing that towers over you.
	You can kind of stand right by it.
	I don't know that there's a statue of Lincoln in San Francisco.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	What's the square?
	Okay, this is when I walked up to Circuit City.
	You sure this wasn't some random hippie that they made a statue of?
	They brawned some hippie with a hat.
	No, and it was given to the city of San Francisco by whatever association, the Freemasons probably, I don't know.
	But he's sitting there in his chair and it's very detailed.
	Are you Googling this to see if you can find out where it is?
	Yeah, I'm looking at a statue of San Francisco.
	It's by City Hall.
	Yes, by City Hall, exactly.
	Do you have a picture of it?
	I'm getting there.
	Flickr, yeah, somebody on Flickr.
	If you go to flickr.com and type in Lincoln Statues, San Francisco City, yeah, it's a picture of him sitting in his chair.
	Is that the one you're talking about?
	Yeah, exactly.
	And you can stand right in front of him.
	And you know what?
	I really felt some kind of thing.
	It was like, wow, man, you know, dude, this was a dude back in the day.
	Probably a contact tie from a nearby dope smoker.
	I get no respect from you, John.
	I'm telling you, they smoked dope in the city.
	You think?
	So we do have to mention a few people this week.
	Oh, good.
	I always like this part of the show.
	Turn down your speakers.
	I had to turn them up because I had to go find this list and I wanted to hear you.
	So a couple people gave us a...
	We have a bunch of weird numbers.
	Let's go to some of the weird numbers and see if we can identify any of them.
	These are donations to the No Agenda Armory, by the way, and I promise that once we are back in our respective hideout locations that we're actually going to get some of this shit together because we owe some people some flatware, we owe some people some certificates, and we have a lot of ideas, and I'd really like to start executing on them, John.
	Yeah, we need to get more people supporting us.
	Yeah, and we need to execute on some of the things we're talking about.
	Yeah, no, we talked a big game, but we haven't even put up a website.
	Yeah, exactly.
	We suck.
	Although we do have a website that we're working on through Squarespace.com.
	You can go to Squarespace.com and type in tech for your discount.
	Anyway.
	Did you just slip into the commercial?
	Did you just slip into the commercial?
	Not just to mention it.
	I mean, might as well.
	Oh my God!
	Here we go.
	$7.17.
	$7.17.
	What do you think $7.17 means?
	$7.17.
	And it wasn't a commercial, it was a plug.
	It's a little different.
	Wow.
	Okay, this guy, who did the $7.17, I'm guessing...
	That he's either a PayPal customer or something because when you donate $7.17, the amount of money PayPal takes out results in a net donation of $6.66.
	Oh no, you're kidding me.
	Oh, that's beautiful.
	PayPal takes that much money?
	Yeah, they take time.
	That's right.
	People should not get, you know, they said the $2 a month, they should do the $24 a year.
	Okay, another thing we've got to change on the site, John.
	Wow, that's great.
	$717, you get $666.
	Fantastic.
	Good one.
	That's the winner, by the way.
	That's a good one.
	That is a good one.
	And who gave that?
	I don't have his name, because the only names I wrote down is that guys would give $50 or more.
	Sorry.
	We've got a 1984, a 1976.
	What's 1976?
	1976 was the bicentennial of the United States, of course, founded in 1776.
	Ah, okay, that could be.
	1859?
	1859.
	Well, that's the beginning of the Civil War, largely.
	1859.
	Yeah, I was going to say, isn't that...
	Just before the Civil War.
	It should have been a crash.
	I don't know what 1815.
	Maybe there was something that happened.
	Some American historical event took place.
	$22.22.
	Oh yes, I know what that is.
	That's Mafia Code for Two to the Head.
	I know this one.
	You're serious?
	Yeah, because someone emailed me this and said, I just donated.
	Let me look it up.
	Because someone told me about this donation.
	He gave you the clue.
	Yeah, he gave it away.
	He said, you're probably going to be wondering.
	I'll look it up while we're talking.
	And he said, it's something like the mob always shoots people with...
	Let me just Google it in my Gmail.
	22.22.
	Come on, Gmail.
	Don't let me down.
	Yeah.
	Oh yes, boom, Ed, here it is.
	I got it.
	Ed Turingi, Turingi, I think.
	Adam, I sent my $22.22 in for no agenda under my PayPal name.
	I thought I'd let you in on the meaning of it, so if John brings it up, you know what I mean, and he will never guess it.
	Gee, I didn't use this information very well, did I? A real pro-mafia type hitman uses a throwaway gun loaded with.22 caliber ammo, in particular.22 shorts.
	These little bullets don't make much noise at all, so the hitman just walks up to you and pop, pop, puts two to the head and leaves.
	So.22-22 is two to the head.
	Yeah, and the thing is about those.22s, they don't make a lot of noise, and then if you get it, it penetrates the skull, and then it bounces around inside the brain and scrambles it because it can't get out.
	Yeah, you've got like freaking scrambled eggs in your noggin.
	So 2036.
	Oh, I should know this one.
	Why is that 2036?
	Okay, 1913 we know is the Tax Act.
	Yeah, 1913 is the Federal Reserve Act.
	No, 1913 is the Federal Reserve Act.
	Oh, the Tax Act.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, Federal Reserve Act was in 1932.
	1913, the Tax Act.
	The Federal Tax Act.
	Right.
	2112.
	What do you think that is?
	2112.
	Could be a palindrome.
	Yeah.
	Well, it is a palindrome.
	I don't know.
	No, it is a palindrome.
	I'm sorry.
	Couldn't.
	I mean, maybe that's all the references.
	I don't know.
	I don't know 2112.
	I don't know that either.
	Unless it's probably a reference to Star Trek or something.
	2036 is...
	I don't know.
	512.
	Yeah, 512.
	That's the original Mac.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It was 512.
	1332, which I don't know that one.
	That's some historical era.
	1332...
	Hmm, I don't know that one.
	Alright, we'll look at that one.
	Maybe the guy can clue us in.
	Anyway, so we got some donors that went over 50 bucks.
	We got the tiptopwebsite.com, 14940, which has got to be a number that means something, too.
	Tiptopwebsite.com.
	Oh, first of all, 1332, of course, is 666 times 2.
	Oh, right, we did that one already.
	Yeah, we did that one.
	That's not new.
	And what was that, the 14, what was that?
	$149.40, so it's $14,940.
	When did Columbus discover America?
	$14.92?
	$14.92, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
	Oh man, the sound is breaking up.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, it's right from the weather.
	Another one, Matthew Tipton.
	Koff gave us $69.69, which works.
	Gee, what could the significance of that one be, John?
	Who knows?
	It's been a while since I've even discussed $69.69.
	Yeah, $69.69, we encourage more of those donations.
	Daryl Pitts had $66.66.
	Good one.
	That's a good one, too.
	Randall Hayes just said, screw all this bull, here's $100.
	Alright.
	Then we have Lennart Renkema.
	I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
	And he's got another odd one.
	$138.46.
	$138.46.
	I don't know what that is, man.
	He's going to have to tell us.
	Somebody, by the way, gave us $5.11 three times in a row.
	Bang, bang, bang.
	What do you think that could be?
	Have you done the math?
	Well, it's $15.33.
	1533, I don't know.
	I don't get it.
	We'll let the listeners try to figure that out.
	And then Samafi Hashko gave us $50.
	So that's our good guys of the week.
	Yeah.
	Thank you all so very much.
	If you can't donate any money, then putting this show on...
	Actually, we're trying to keep it under 80 minutes so you can burn it onto a disc.
	You can just turn someone onto the site, which for now, of course, is noagenda.mevio.com.
	You can...
	Just tell someone.
	Link to us.
	All of that helps.
	It really does.
	And we appreciate it.
	Right.
	And if you do want to donate...
	Sorry.
	What's the name of it?
	Dvorak.org.
	I know.
	I got the Dvorak.org slash NA. But then there's the NoAgendaLibrary.com.
	Yeah, but I'm not using that brand anymore because we know it's the Armory.
	Well, you've got to get a new website then.
	We've got to get a website.
	That would be a start.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA and help us out.
	It won't hurt.
	So, John, this...
	Yeah, it won't kill you.
	This coming week, it would be great if we could get one or two dinners in.
	Yeah, I think we can.
	Definitely two.
	And is Mimi in town?
	She is now, but she has to leave, like, tomorrow.
	Oh...
	I want to meet her.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a picture?
	She's at Costco right now.
	If you head over here, you can probably catch her in the produce section.
	Excuse me, ma'am.
	I need to speak with you for a moment.
	Oh, that hair!
	I wish my husband had hair like that.
	Send me a picture of her.
	What does she look like?
	Sure.
	I will.
	I'll send you a picture this weekend.
	This is the weekend.
	It's Sunday.
	Send me a picture now.
	Skype me.
	Yeah, okay.
	I don't have one on this machine.
	Sure.
	I don't.
	So, okay, what's on our list?
	Anything else you got going?
	We got another 20 minutes or 15 minutes to chat.
	Well, actually, as I said, I want to try and, yeah, 15 minutes.
	As I told you before we started, actually, I have done absolutely F all in prep.
	I did nothing.
	Good.
	Well, then I can bring up this topic.
	Do you mind if I just go blow my nose for a second?
	Well, no, I think that's fine.
	I'll talk to the listeners while you're blowing your nose because you apparently have a cold, even though you thought you had swine flu.
	And by the way, we didn't talk enough about swine flu.
	I think we'll probably bring it back up on Thursday after.
	It probably blows over completely.
	So, yeah, it's going to blow over.
	Yeah, thank you.
	So we're talking about, for some reason my wife and I both got on the computer and got into a jag.
	There's a New York Times article bringing up the fact that it looks like high fructose corn syrup actually isn't good.
	Oh, gee, not something we've discussed on this show before, now is it?
	It says obesity and heart disease and all this other stuff.
	So meanwhile, Pepsi has come out with this Pepsi throwback, which you're going to have out for three months only, and Mountain Dew throwback, which eliminates the high fructose corn syrup and throw it in regular sucrose.
	So we were looking at all these different things.
	It turns out, here's some numbers that are kind of interesting.
	For one thing, They think that most Americans, after 1996, before 1996, boys would drink 20 years ago, let's say, 2x more milk than sodas, and then the girls 1.5x more.
	Since 1996, more sodas than milk are being drunk, and with the effect, it's apparently very damaging to the bones.
	Two things.
	One, caffeine.
	It has an effect on the calcium.
	Calcium, it needs your informative years.
	You have to get a good bone structure.
	Yeah, for your bone structure.
	Of course.
	And phosphorus leaches calcium.
	So not only are you depriving yourself of it going in, but it's actually taking it away, whatever's in there.
	Yeah.
	Jesus Christ.
	So what is Pepsi doing then?
	What's this special they've got going on?
	Pepsi's got a thing called Pepsi Throwback, which has got regular sugar and it's like Mexican Coke.
	You know, I've noticed this trend.
	This is very interesting.
	I have noticed a huge trend of real sugar, sweetened with real sugar.
	Have you noticed this?
	Yeah, it's like a sailing point.
	Yeah, but it's not bad.
	Real sugar is good, isn't it?
	Well, it's better than whatever this chemical is.
	Chemicals, yeah.
	Geez.
	So, okay.
	And then, of course, we market this Red Bull crap to our kids, which has 30% of the drink is caffeine, totally depriving them of incredibly important stuff they need for their growing bodies.
	Yeah, kids should be drinking milk.
	So, what do you think the yearly gallonage is for soda pop in the United States on a yearly basis?
	Oh, God.
	It's impossible to guess.
	Let me just say, we have 300 million people.
	I would say each of those people probably drinks at least one can a day on average.
	So I'm going to say about a trillion.
	No, a trillion is way too high.
	It's only 13 billion gallons.
	It may be a trillion cans.
	Right, it is probably a trillion cans, exactly.
	The average is actually three cans daily for a boy.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	And two cans for girls.
	By the way, a couple of little side notes I got here.
	Just stay on that for one second before you close it out.
	When I was a kid, and I'm now old enough to say that shit, when I was a kid, we weren't allowed to drink soft drinks.
	You know, it was a treat.
	Maybe on a Saturday, you know, okay kids, you know, we drank Kool-Aid.
	You know, we had lemonade.
	Gee, we actually had lemonade stands.
	We made our own stuff.
	We made iced tea and we went out to the garden and we picked some mint and we put it into the iced tea.
	What happened to that?
	Since 2005, soda pop is the single largest source of calories for an American.
	No wonder we're dying.
	I said to a friend the other day, and I said, oh, you know, look at all this shit that they're serving us.
	They just want to kill us.
	Much of this began during the Clinton administration in 1996 when the schools were allowed to do bidding with these big companies like McDonald's and they started taking the milk out and putting soda in.
	And you remember there was also this thing called Channel One, which was...
	Yeah, that was an educational channel in the mid-90s.
	With advertisements.
	Set up by, what was the guy's name?
	The guy's name was Whittle.
	That's right, Chris Whittle, who of course has his satellite academy or whatever.
	I think he went broke.
	Yeah, no, the whole project went belly up.
	I remember because they were a client and they didn't pay.
	Yeah, and they didn't pay.
	They can pay in advance.
	They can now.
	The advertisers would be candy bars and things like that.
	Right.
	Yeah, I do remember that.
	Very bad.
	By the way, I'm leaving Europe, and I always forget this.
	I always take pictures, and I never post these pictures of the signage that are on tobacco products at the duty-free store in Europe.
	In Europe, when you buy tobacco, you have to specifically ask for the kind that doesn't give you cancer, because it says right there.
	What do I have here?
	I have a...
	Oh, this one's actually quite tame because there's different ones.
	The signage on my tobacco, which I have here, which is Old Hoburn, is fine British rolling tobacco.
	Smoking seriously harms you and others around you.
	Now, that is very tame.
	But here it is on the back.
	Smoking may reduce the blood flow and causes impotence.
	And they have a picture of a cigarette that's bent down.
	Yeah, there's that, but the main one is smoking tobacco will kill you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what it says in a huge sign.
	No, it even kills you earlier or something like that, or you will die younger.
	And it's true, of course.
	Yeah, there's that, too.
	There's about five or six of these things.
	They're trying them out.
	I'm not making light of it.
	So my wife points out that this analyst is called neuromarketing.
	It turns out that the signage that says this product will kill you actually triggers a response.
	Makes you want to go and buy it.
	Yes, it makes you buy more.
	Of course it does.
	It's so idiotic.
	Not a single...
	Have you ever read anywhere you said, hey, that stuff we put on the packs, that's really effective?
	I haven't heard of that survey.
	No, in fact, let's make it bigger.
	Yeah.
	Why do you think these guys...
	You never hear anyone complaining.
	They're like, dude, they want us to put like this...
	I'm looking at this pack.
	And this is great.
	I should scan this.
	And so there's like a cigarette and it's halfway smoked and half of it is ash and it's kind of lit and it's bent down like a flaccid penis.
	And it says smoking rate may reduce the blood flow and cause impotence.
	And I look at this and the first thing that comes to mind, John, when I see that is like sex.
	Yeah, right.
	Well, luckily I don't have that problem.
	Yeah, that's probably another thing.
	Oh, that's great.
	It doesn't affect me that way.
	Yeah, let's smoke some more.
	Wait a minute!
	I've been trapped!
	The whole thing is bad.
	I've been fooled all these years.
	You have, actually.
	So I've got to ask you this.
	I got the paper from Amsterdam.
	It's called NBNA. What's the name of it again?
	NRC. The NRC. No, no.
	This is just AD. Oh, Algemeen Dagblad.
	AD. Yeah.
	So it's a tabloid.
	It's actually quite good.
	A lot of pictures.
	I don't like them because they're a copy-paste publication, pretty much.
	Okay.
	Well, anyway, who's this woman, Wendy?
	Oh, jeez.
	Wendy Von Dyke?
	Yeah, Von Dyke.
	Wendy Von Dyke, whatever her name is.
	She's a TV host.
	She's the Paris Hilton of Holland?
	Oh, please.
	Please, stop.
	No.
	No.
	She's extremely irritating.
	And I repeat myself.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	No, she's extremely irritating, but not in the Paris Hilton way, because she's not hot.
	But she's a TV presenter, and she started off, she had this show, which was kind of cute, called Ushi and Van Dyke.
	And she would dress up.
	It was kind of corny, because it would work sometimes, but it was the same formula.
	She'd dress up as a Japanese journalist.
	And the transformation was good.
	She looked Japanese.
	And she couldn't speak any English, so she had a translator, a whole setup.
	And whenever press junkets would come through town, you'd have George Clooney and Brad Pitt or whatever major Hollywood celebrities.
	Then they'd request an interview, and this is the number one show or news channel in Japan.
	And so, of course, all these super celebrities would do these interviews.
	And they would make it really, you know, crazy questions.
	Yeah, but dumb.
	The Dutch Borat.
	Dumb.
	And then there would be the big reveal.
	And these celebrities were like, well, yeah, you got me, but who the fuck are you?
	It's like, it's one thing if it's, you know...
	Ashton Kutcher.
	Ashton Kutcher, exactly, you know, or something like that, but it's like, oh yeah, that's good, that's funny, you got me, but so, who are you?
	And what, you know, ha ha ha.
	So it never really works, because the celebrities, you know, the payoff is never good for the celebrity, because they're like, well, what the hell is that?
	Just want to promote my damn movie, you know?
	Anyway, so now she hosts X Factor and all this other stuff, and she's screwing with the program director, which of course is why everyone in TV land hates her, because her show should actually be off the air.
	But it's still on, despite low ratings, because she's boning the guy.
	Okay, so that's Wendy.
	What about her?
	She's all over the paper.
	Yeah, she's probably boning the editor.
	Well, whatever the case, I just was wondering, who is this woman?
	I don't know her personally.
	I'm sure she's quite sweet.
	Well, for a moment there, she was the super darling because she was married to kind of a rock star dude named Sonder, and they had a baby together, and of course it was a big Dutch version of celebrity love affair, and then he cheated on Wendy with some girls after some gig.
	You know, just...
	One of those rock and roll type things, but it was actually the girls who then had tape recorded him.
	It really sucked.
	It was like, every guy, it was like, oh, dude!
	Oh, dude!
	And you know the sex was dumb and useless.
	Yeah.
	The guy did a show.
	He's got thousands of girls adoring him.
	One of them says, hey, come on, let me blow you.
	You understand how these things go because guys are pretty simple that way.
	And every guy is just thinking, oh, man, you've so got, so, so, so screwed, so useless stuff.
	For no reason.
	And of course, Wendy immediately said, I never want to speak to him again.
	And he was the dog.
	I'm talking three, four years of, you know, if anyone was a dick, it was his name was associated with it.
	You know, oh, he's just like Sander.
	But these things, the way the media goes, when you cast the ball, it will come back to you.
	That's how it works.
	So Wendy totally used that to vilify and to annihilate this guy.
	And now she's getting it back.
	And now the press is going, oh, you think you're so Miss Goody Two Shoes?
	What are you doing boning the program director?
	This, by the way, is how the media works.
	And that is exactly how and why we come up with...
	And now, back to real news.
	Because we just spent ten minutes talking about it.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	It's interesting because we're actually not talking about that at all.
	We are talking about the sociology.
	And we're using the exemplification in regards to Wendy to better analyze the sociology so we can understand the world around us in a manner that makes us more effective as human beings.
	I'd call that the perfect end of the show, John.
	I think so.
	Because you just explained in a nutshell, with more eloquence than I could ever produce, what we're all about.
	And we're under 80 minutes, so people can burn this to a CD, which is our goal.
	And it's a good one.
	And it'll help us get to three shows a week sooner, if you help us out.
	And by the way, I got a lot of email about that too.
	I have not got a single person who said, and maybe these people just don't email.
	No one has said, oh, no, no, no, do less shows.
	I only get do more.
	I want three, I want four, I want five shows a week.
	Yeah, I think that it's unusual.
	But I can see it.
	People who have a long commute probably would love to have lots of this stuff.
	Yeah.
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Northwest, not quite in the place called Silicon Alley, but of course it doesn't exist.
	I'm in San Francisco.
	My name's Adam Curry.
	And here from the other side of the great San Francisco Bay in the Gitmo Nation West, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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