The Mike Lindell Show with Patrick Colbeck - 12.08.25
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Mike Lindell.
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome to a Monday edition of the Mike Lindell Show.
I'm your host today, Patrick Colbeck.
I'll be filling in for Mike.
But as usual, particularly on Mondays, because this president and administration never seemed to stop over the weekend, we got a lot of news to cover.
And we're going to, of course, kick things off with the DC update from Allison Steinberg.
But also, we're going to hear from our Pentagon correspondent, National Security Counselor correspondent, Heather Mullins.
And she's going to fill us in on the latest developments out in Minnesota and also give us a skinny on a new document that was released by the White House called the National Security Strategy.
And she's going to go through the key tenets of that because I think they're pretty important to have in the background as we look at current events, like current events out in Venezuela, current events over in Europe, and put them in context of what our national policy is, because I think it maps that out pretty well.
So, anyway, a lot of ground to cover, but we're going to kick things off here with Allison Steinberg.
Allison, how are you doing?
Hope you had a good weekend.
Hey, Patrick, I'm doing well.
Thanks.
Hope you are as well.
It is actually a fairly slow day here in Congress as members are traveling back in for probably one of the last busy weeks of the year.
We are really working on this healthcare issue to get some progress made on that front, which we'll get to in just a moment.
But first, I wanted to highlight some news that took place over the weekend with the newest Democrat member of Congress, Adelita Graholva.
She got caught in quite the ordeal in Tucson, where she represents ICE was going to raid a taco shop.
It's called Taco Giro in Tucson, a small mom and pop shop that I guess she frequents regularly.
She just so happened to be there at the time of this ICE raid.
And then she actually tries to obstruct the law enforcement officers from doing their job.
Let's take a listen to that video, not the one where she's talking, but the one where it shows what went on there.
Take a look.
Watch out!
Watch out.
Hey, put it down.
Let's go.
Get out of the way.
You guys need to clear now.
He knows how to make an entrance, yeah.
Yeah, she sure does.
I mean, I just don't know who she thinks she is to get in the way of federal law enforcement conducting their job.
I think she should be arrested for obstruction, quite frankly.
And for her to tell them to get out.
She did just take her oath of office to support the Constitution.
Yes, she sure did.
She's the newest Democrat member of Congress, and this is what she's already up to.
It was even more disturbing because I saw numerous other members of Congress, Democrat members of Congress, obviously reposting her video, sharing, you know, how out of control this is, how unlawful our government is to conduct such an ordeal.
She claims she was pepper sprayed in the face, which if you watched that video, you saw the whatever it was hit the ground, not her face.
And then just moments after that, she goes on camera saying how she was so violently attacked.
Well, I don't really think you could actually film a video so coherently if you'd just been pepper sprayed in the face.
You probably couldn't even film that.
So it just goes to show it's all lies and she has no problem doing that, even when she's on the record with everything documented right there.
I saw the ICE agents acting as ushers sitting there saying, please go this way.
I mean, all they were doing is not telling them what seat they were supposed to take in the theater here, pretty much.
And so, yeah, that's frustrating.
And, you know, we pray for our ICE agents and their family and friends every single day.
The stuff that they're being subject to for actually enforcing the law is disconcerting.
And it points to a bigger picture, I think, of the fact that this illegal immigration is actually being used to destroy America from within.
And we're seeing a lot of different fronts.
We're going to talk about that a little bit later in the show.
But there's another case here where we've got somebody that is more concerned and appears that Democrats or core constituents are illegal immigrants, not actually American citizens.
That's exactly right.
They, you know, they're so concerned about ICE and their illegal activity when they're just trying to uphold the rule of law.
Meanwhile, the Democrats are literally siding with the violent criminal aliens that never should have been let in here in the first place.
It's just totally backwards and it should really infuriate every American, seeing as the Democrats continually show time and time again that they fight harder for illegal aliens than their own citizens that they are supposed to be representing.
You know, I just recently went to a press conference with Pramila Jayapal, an immigrant herself, who introduced this new legislation called the Dignity for Detained Immigrants Act.
She had a bunch of immigrants there talking about how they're so poorly treated when she's really pushing for these illegals to have this royal treatment.
They want the red carpet rolled out for them when they never should have even been let into the country in the first place.
And people just buy into it.
I mean, I'm watching all the liberal press there covering it, acting like this is a legitimate matter.
It's like, where's the logic?
I just don't understand the model.
Well, it's an exciting.
It's an expansion of this entitlement mindset that we've had from Democrats for quite a few years.
And now we're just, now we've got everybody who's a citizen of the world feels like they're entitled to be an American.
And, you know, our doors are open.
It's just that we ask you one thing that you adhere to the ideals and the values that we hold dear.
I mean, these are pretty clearly identified in our Declaration of Independence.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
This isn't a case where you just come in and squat, take it over, and develop it into whatever country you want it to be.
No, there's actually a set of ideals, and you can come from anywhere in the whole world and become an American.
And even though my name is Patrick, if I go to Ireland, I'm not going to be Irish.
So that is something unique about America.
And that's something that I think we've lost an appreciation for in America.
And it's coming to a head.
And, you know, God bless President Trump.
I mean, his slogan is make America great again.
And that forces some tough questions as to what does it mean to be an American.
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
And I think the people of Minnesota might have a hard time answering to that.
I know you guys are going to dive further into that, but that's just a perfect example of what happens when you allow these immigrants to run the show.
They don't want to assimilate here.
They don't want to come here and assimilate with us and our culture.
They want to turn it into wherever they came from, which is a real problem, especially when you have members of Congress like Ilhan Omar leading the charge there.
So, yeah, it's a very dangerous territory that we're entering.
And it really concerns me to see members of Congress, namely Ilhan Omar and now Adelita Grahalva, you know, boldly protecting the criminals over the American citizens.
Don't forget Michigan's own Rashida Tlaib.
So we've got just down the road from me, and also we've got a U.S. Senate candidate by the name of Abdul Sayed that has got ties to the Muslim Brotherhood that he's running for U.S. Senate in the Democratic ticket.
So it's actually, I mean, if you do a quick Google on my name, you'll know I've been on this topic for quite some time because this idea of a civilization jihad is real.
And people need to understand it.
We need to talk about it, have an adult conversation on it, not just push it off to the side.
And I think it's coming to a head here.
You saw President Trump designated the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization.
And it ties into this discussion as well as the Venezuela activities that are going on and the illegal immigration push that they're doing.
So you're on top of the key topics of the day, as usual, Allison.
Yes, they sure are.
And we're so grateful for everything the Trump administration is doing on that front because, as we just touched on, you know, it's gotten completely out of control.
And I really do think it is coming to a head here.
So instead of our opposition calling us racist, maybe it's time for them to actually take a better look at what's happening here and realizing that we don't have a country much longer if we allow this insanity to continue.
So thank you to President Trump and the administration for everything they do.
I also want to highlight with you, Patrick, the ongoing efforts to reform or produce some new alternative to the healthcare disaster that is Obamacare.
I know this is an issue near and dear to your heart, as it is many Americans at this point in time, because the funding for Obamacare is set to run out here at the end of December.
As we know, that was largely part of why the government shut down last time around and could potentially shut down again come the end of January when funding for the government runs out at that point in time.
But this is all at its foundation having to do with the Obamacare subsidies, the ACA tax credits that are going to run out here.
And members of Congress are desperately trying to figure out what comes next, right?
Many Republicans just want to repeal Obamacare entirely and come up with a new solution, which we haven't heard much about from them until now.
We did also hear last week, I just wanted to touch on from a bipartisan group that presented this Common Ground 2025, a new healthcare framework, as they're calling it, but that would extend the subsidies for a year and then sort of start to address reforming the existing situation as it is now and making edits to that.
So that did have about 20 different members of Democrats and Republicans collectively come together to introduce that.
But now what we're learning from Congressman Andy Biggs is something entirely different.
He's now proposing new legislation that really looks a lot more like what we heard President Trump talking about these last few weeks that would basically bypass the big insurance companies and just give the money straight to the people instead of involving them so that the people can ultimately have the money and decide what plan and what doctor best suits their needs.
So this would actually turn that into law, make it the law of the land.
And I think that could be really beneficial.
I don't think we should even really consider extending these subsidies that don't address the root cause of the issue.
I think this is a new path forward that could actually be very beneficial.
And I personally would love to see it happen.
But I'm curious to get your thoughts, Patrick, because I know you've been paying close attention to this one.
Well, that's as I look at that, that's 100% in alignment with what I propose as a Michigan State Senator is that you put the money in the hands of the individuals.
It's actually consistent with a good old Milton Friedman analogy that he used to talk about.
And we talked about the difference between first-person transactions, second-party transactions, and third-party transactions.
A third-party transaction, well, actually, start with a first-party transaction.
A first-party transaction is when I go off and buy goods or services with my own money.
I'm concerned about cost and I'm concerned about quality.
A second-party transaction is when I maybe buy something for somebody else, like a birthday present, for example.
I'm concerned about cost typically, but quality, well, sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't hit.
And there's a reason for the term regifting.
A third-party transaction is when somebody else buys money for somebody or buys a product or service for somebody else.
And they don't give a hoot about cost.
They don't care about, they're using other people's money.
So they don't care about cost.
They don't care about quality either.
And every single government transaction is a third-party transaction.
And that's what our healthcare has devolved into.
So what Representative Biggs is talking about is something that's getting back into first-party transactions.
And I wrote a not-bed that got published in Forbes at Forbes.com a while back.
If you look it up, it talks about a free market healthcare revolution and the savings that are potential from this using, I mean, I was a big proponent of what they call direct primary care.
But the savings potential is a reduction in healthcare costs by over 90%.
And translate that to the cost of doing business, translate that to the cost of keeping the lights on at home in your own family and translate that to government.
I mean, our single largest line item in the government and in our federal budget is around CMMS.
That's Medicaid and Medicare spending.
And it's the same thing with the states who typically chime in about 20 to 30 percent of the Medicaid costs out of their state budget.
If you can reduce those costs by 90 percent, that's a big deal, not only for the current year, but for all of your liabilities, for pension liabilities, for government employees, for all your long-term obligations around Medicare, for example, for medical care.
It is a big, big deal.
And free market's the way to go.
So go, Congressman Biggs, go, Congressman Biggs.
I love it.
Yeah.
I mean, gosh, that sounds like such a breath of fresh air.
And who wouldn't want that?
It'll be interesting to me to see if these other Republican members of Congress, we went forward with that bipartisan framework, the Common Ground 2025, including Congressman Kevin Kiley and Mike Lawler, who are pretty solid members of Congress.
I think they've done some good stuff.
It'll be interesting to see if they come around and now support this proposal from Congressman Biggs.
We've already heard that co-sponsors include Eli Crane, Chip Roy, Rick Scott.
So I'll be interested to see who tags along on this and how this develops over the coming weeks here.
Just to put kind of in a political perspective on this, when I served in the Michigan Senate, I went to serve as chair of the appropriations for state police and Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.
Everybody laughed at me because there's no money in chairmanships there.
Where there was money was on the health insurance committee.
And so you're going to see some serious headwinds for Representative Bigg, because I was dealing at the state level.
I can just imagine what it's like up at the federal level.
That's where all the money's going.
It's going to the pharmaceutical companies.
It's going to, so big pharma is engaged on it.
The big insurance, all the health plans, they're engaged on this.
And I'll tell you, they have a very, very, very powerful lobby.
I know this from, I've dealt with some friends who've been very active with President Trump and the White House and pushing healthcare policy.
There's a lot of headwinds against this.
But I'll tell you, if we can hold the line on this, I just hit on a couple of the areas that this would be a game changer.
That's why Obama sought to control our healthcare in the first place with Obamacare.
It literally helped destroy America's health care system from within.
And so we need to definitely, we need to be inoculated, if you will, from Obamacare.
I mean, that's what drove me to run for office in the first place.
One of the key drivers.
I have read all 1,017 pages of H.R. 3590 as a Tea Party activist.
And I go, this is nuts.
We can't, this is about control.
It has nothing to do about care.
So we need to flip the script and go back into freedom mode.
So thank you for bringing that good news to me to start this Monday.
I appreciate it.
Absolutely.
Hopefully we can make some headway on that front and make the health care market great again as Trump makes it.
Yeah.
Maha away.
I mean, this is one of the keys to Maha.
It's like getting an informed citizen, making informed decisions about their health care instead of being told what care they can or can't get.
Exactly.
I love it.
We'll keep pressing them here in Congress, Patrick.
All right.
Keep pushing them over there for me.
Appreciate it.
Sure will.
Thanks so much.
All right.
Not going to lie, my friend.
All right.
So now we're going to be going on to that topic of immigration.
And just to kind of frame the discussion here, you know, Abe Lincoln is often attributed with the expression that says, if America is ever going to be destroyed, it's not going to be from an outside power.
It's going to be from within.
And specifically, the quote that he made is actually attributed to an 1838 speech that he made to the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield.
And he says, at what point shall we expect the approach of danger?
By what means shall we fortify against it?
Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow?
Never.
All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined with all the treasure of our earth, our own accepted, in their military chest with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years.
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected?
I answer, if it is ever to reach us, it must spring up amongst us.
It cannot come from abroad.
If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.
As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time or die by suicide.
And that's essentially what we're facing right now is an existential threat via suicide.
This internal turmoil, which has been fomented by outside powers, if you will.
This idea that America can be destroyed, if it's going to be destroyed, it's going to be destroyed from within is a very real threat.
And one of the ways that that happens is by opening up the gateway on our borders.
And that's why what President Trump has done with the Make America Great movement and focus on building the wall and stopping illegal immigration has been so important because it's the key to us retaining our national sovereignty.
And just to kind of put this in perspective, you know, a lot of focus has been on this illegal immigration, particularly on Lindell TV.
We focus a lot on its implications regarding elections because we know for a fact that as soon as these people are getting social security numbers illegally, they're being allowed to register to vote and they're actually voting in elections.
That is a concern.
And so that's one way this illegal immigration can subvert the United States from within.
It also, as we were talking about with healthcare, well, you know, when you have government-run healthcare systems that don't have the checks and balance that a free market system would have, what you'll see is a lot of fraud.
And we saw an example in Minnesota where an immigrant actually was found guilty in a court of law of $7.2 million of Medicaid fraud by a jury.
A unanimous ruling by the jury dictated that he had committed $7.2 million in Medicaid fraud.
And a judge overturned the jury verdict and said, and let the man who got away with $7.2 million in fraud get off scot-free.
So that's another way they're draining our resource, our financial resources, and that becomes kind of a drain on our economy overall.
And then, but there's also a cultural impact to this as well.
If you're not being educated on what it means to be an American, if you're not from a family that has grown up with an appreciation of what it means to be an American, that destroys America from within.
It's a cultural rot.
And so there's a lot of different concerns about this.
And this is just to frame what is going on in Minneapolis.
And we had a lot of discussions around the Somali immigrant in particular that have come into Minnesota.
And you've seen it on the national news across the board.
It's been a big story.
And before it was in the national news about in America, it was in the national news about what's happening overseas.
Somali and Somalia was a hotbed of chaos.
I mean, they had, and to this day, they just are ran by a group of rival warlords that anytime somebody tries to come in and provide aid and food out to these individuals to help people that are starving in this country, you have this constant battle or chaos to prevent people from getting the assistance that they need.
And it's not the type of country you want to live in.
And so the idea of bringing the types of warlord values that they experience out in Somalia back here to the United States, frankly, isn't very much appreciated.
And it also contributes to the issue and to the destruction of America from within, because we do not want to become like Somalia.
We want anybody who wants to come from Somalia to become more like an American and accept our values and ideals.
And that's not happening yet.
So anyway, so we're going to bring in our national security correspondent, our Pentagon representative for Lindell TV, Heather Mullins, to give us a little bit more information on this topic, particularly as it relates to what's going on in Minnesota.
So Heather, great to have you here on the Mike Lundell show.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Can you see and hear me okay?
Just doing the quick check before we get going here.
Absolutely.
Yep, you're looking great there, Heather.
Thank you.
So, yeah, so this whole Somali thing has actually been quite crazy seeing it come out in Minnesota.
I'm actually up in the New England area, and I remember years ago, similar stuff was coming out up in Maine.
So, there's a whole Somali community up in northern Maine where they're having some of the very same issues.
In fact, I actually heard an unconfirmed report that recently one of the Somali groups put a bounty out on a journalist.
So, I'm going to be digging into that to see if that's true.
But going back to Minnesota, where all of the recent revelations are coming out, I want to play a quick clip real quick if we have it from Stephen Miller, who actually calls this one of the biggest fraud abuse cases in American history.
So, let's take a listen.
Based on what we have found so far, we believe that the Somali fraud operation in Minnesota is the single greatest theft of taxpayer dollars through welfare fraud in American history.
We believe that we have only scratched the very top of the surface of how deep this goes.
And you're familiar with all the scams with pretending that children have autism who are not, in fact, autistic, with pretending to enroll people in food programs when, in fact, nobody was ever enrolled, and engaging in massive fraud, lying, and theft and grift on a scale we've never seen before in American history.
The total bill, the total tab for this is going to be far beyond the numbers you've already seen reported.
We believe the state government is fully complicit in this scheme, and we believe that what we are going to uncover is going to shock the American people.
Look, based on the records that we already have, and this is a significant undercount, by the way, 75% of the Somali population in Minnesota is on welfare, but that's likely a significant undercount of just how much of a financial burden the Somali refugee population is imposing on this country.
I mean, you heard it right there.
One of the biggest fraud cases in American history.
And just to go a little deeper into that for you, Patrick, I wrote down some numbers here from a post that Dr. Oz had put out saying that two of the ways that they're gathering these funds are through housing stabilization and then these autism programs.
And so, the annual budget for those two programs, the housing was budgeted for $2.6 million, but it was actually for one year, they managed to get $100 million.
And then for the autism program, the budget was around $3 million and they ended up getting paid out $400 million.
So, these are just some numbers.
Like, the magnitude of this is quite alarming.
Yeah, it sounds like another version of USAID where they're actually skimming off the top and paying off friends and family via taxpayer funds.
And I've heard estimates of the total amount of fraud across all facets of the Somali community in Minnesota to be around $8 billion.
And what's really concerning and what you see President Trump point out on a regular basis is that this money is not staying in the United States, even.
It's going overseas and they're buying assets and properties and cars and vehicles and homes overseas.
And so we're not even seeing that money here in America.
So it gets a little concerning.
And I think it gets to the heart of there's a different set of values.
I mean, if you come from a country that's driven by warlords, it's might makes right.
And there is no idea of a moral compass, if you will.
It's focused on the fact that, hey, if I can get away with it, I'm going to go off and do it.
And that seems to be all too prevalent, unfortunately, in what's going on in Minnesota.
So I'm very curious here.
What role has Ilhan Omar played in all this?
Well, you know, it's so funny you mentioned that.
I don't know if you guys can put the pictures up on the screen, but there's some pictures coming out of some of these Somalians that have been charged with fraud, not just here, but in Canada as well, having photos along the campaign trail with Elon Omar and Tim Walz.
So, you know, when you're looking at numbers like this, right, the ones I just spent out, like we got $3.5 million and they end up getting $500 million.
Imagine if somebody adds one single extra zero to your deposit or to your bill.
We noticed that, right?
So how is it that leadership at the state level in Minnesota is not picking up on this, right?
And this is going to be part of the investigation.
Was this money getting reinvested back into the political space toward campaigns, things of that nature?
I've covered personally election integrity and election fraud for years now.
And I can tell you a lot of the laundered money goes right back into the campaigns of the very people that don't look into it.
And so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here, Patrick.
But the other big thing, right?
Like that's a big price tag from the American taxpayer as is.
But when you factor in something that actually Vice President JD Bance talked about, and we can play a quick clip from him, is just like the problems that come with integrating people from totally different cultures, speaking totally different languages into our societies.
That has its own price tag that we'll talk about after we take a listen at the vice president here.
Well, I think we have that clip.
We may not have that clip pulled up, but essentially what the vice president said is that, you know, when you have people that don't speak the native language being embedded into your community, that causes problems, not just, you know, being able to talk to your neighbor and borrow a cup of sugar, but more serious things, right?
Communicating with teachers at school, communicating to emergency personnel.
When you think about the number of illegal immigrants that don't speak English here in America and the price tag that costs us when it comes to hospitals, schools For the children, having interpreters for just about everything.
That's another bill added to the American taxpayer on top of the fraud.
And then, lastly, another bill on top of that, which we've seen with some of these other illegal immigrant communities, they cause the insurance prices to go up for your automobile.
There was a community, I think it might have actually been in your state, Michigan.
I believe it was Michigan.
I could be wrong on this, but it was like a Haitian community, and there were so many Haitians causing car accidents that people ended up.
The local residents, their insurance companies said, we have to raise your rates because there's just so many people here causing accidents on the like the illegals that it's now a whole nother mortgage payment, essentially.
And so, there's a lot of implications here.
And I understand Governor Walsh is very much engaged in this activity too, and he's tied to overlooking some of this fraud.
What's been discussed around his role in this pretty pervasive fraud in Minnesota?
I mean, as far as I can see, his role is looking the other way and not doing anything about it.
This is part of the popping up a wall.
I mean, you know, unfortunately, there seems to be a theme here, Patrick, with a lot of these issues, a lot of these fraud issues taking place in these Democrat states and Democrat cities.
I mean, to my knowledge, is there any Republican-led city that's having the same issue?
It doesn't seem like it.
Well, on that front, before we go to break here, and we're going to pick this up on the flip side here, we're going to go into overall discussion on national security strategy because I think what we're talking about here is part of the attempt to go off and undermine America from within.
And I think some elements of that are in that national security strategy.
But I think the federal government has given Governor Walsh a 60-day timeline to resolve these issues with the Medicaid fraud in particular, or else he's cut off.
And I can tell you, that's probably about 25% of the Minnesota budget.
So he's going to want to do something.
Although, the way Democrats usually approach this is that they just throw a bunch of lawyers at it.
But I'll tell you, right now, this is unacceptable fraud.
And it looks like the federal government is going to hold him accountable.
Yeah, it did.
They did give him some stipulations.
Like he has to basically look into this, report back.
How are they, you know, cracking down on high-risk areas?
What are they doing to curb the fraud and all of these things?
And so he's going to have to check back in with them.
We'll have to keep you updated on what those check-ins look like.
Does anything come of it?
And just go from there.
But as of right now, they are putting the heat on Governor's home walls over this issue.
Well, it's nice to hear that he has some parental supervision.
So when we get back, we're going to pick up on the topic of national security with Heather Mullins.
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Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Mike Lindell Show.
My name is Patrick Colbeck, and prior to the break, we were talking with Lindell TV correspondent Heather Mullins about some security issues that are happening in the state of Minnesota.
And we're going to delve into this from a national perspective, but the tee things in this segment, but to tee things up for that discussion, I just want to give everybody a little bit of a history reminder, if you will.
And back in 1823, during the State of the Union address by President James Monroe, he stipulated that there's something that's been now known as the Monroe Doctrine.
And I wish I could speak.
It's a Monday, but it's pretty much like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for me.
But he essentially illustrated what he calls the Monroe Doctrine.
And this doctrine drew a line between the old world, i.e. Europe, and the new world, i.e. the United States and America, and asserted that the political systems and sphere of influences should remain separate and that the Western hemisphere was under a special U.S. protective interest.
And he said that any attempt to control or interfere in the Western hemisphere would be viewed as a hostile act against the United States.
And so I bring this up because on December 4th, President Trump and the White House released a new national security strategy.
And it seems to have some resemblance to the 1823 Monroe Doctrine.
But to hear the skinny on exactly what's in this report, we're going to bring back Heather Mullins.
And Heather, have you had a chance to go off and review this national security strategy document?
Yeah, I did.
I did have a chance to go through it, not in its entirety, but the majority of it.
I kind of get the gist of it, especially after having just spent a few days at the Pentagon and learning from them, you know, what lies ahead from a lot of those officials.
So it is very similar to that Monroe doctrine in the sense that one of the main priorities of this administration from a military perspective is securing the Western Hemisphere, securing, you know, South America, all those countries.
Like the idea is that if you don't secure the area closest to you, then you can't secure conflict far away, right?
Like you have to manage what's in your backyard before you can manage things far off, you know, in the Middle East and things of that nature.
And so with the Chinese, there's definitely a Chinese influence down by the Panama Canal.
There's some, you know, they're definitely trying to get a grip on supply chains, resources in those areas.
And so President Trump sees that as a, you know, regional issue that America should dominate the Western hemisphere, similar to the Monroe doctrine, we want to prevent outside, you know, forces and countries and things like that from really anywhere from coming in and trying to control the regions closest to home.
Well, there's also, I think in this strategy document, there's a lot of explanation for why we have a fleet of 15 warships off the coast of Venezuela.
We know that Venezuela's had strategic partnerships with China, with Iran, with Russia and Cuba, and all of them have been trying to mess things up in the United States.
And it ties into what we were talking about before, which is in the topic of illegal immigration.
We know that they've actually got an active terrorist base off the coast of Venezuela on Margarita Island that Hezbollah has been using as a training and logistics center.
And those folks ended up getting shipped up across the southern border into the United States, at least until President Trump decided to say that gate is closed.
And so I imagine it deals a lot in that area specifically, which is good news, I think.
But I think another facet of this security, this strategy document is that it's starting to treat our allies in a little bit different light.
And it's kind of starting to encourage us not to lean as hard on our friends in the European Union, which kind of harkens back to the theme of the Monroe doctrine, right?
I mean, we didn't trust the Europeans, and it seems like we're kind of renewing that lack of trust in this document.
Is that what you're seeing?
Yeah, well, you know, I think one thing that we've seen from the Trump administration is that he has really revisited a lot of our relationship with our I'll just go allies, right?
Like there's been a lot of our allies that over the years have really taken advantage of Americans.
I mean, we've been funding a lot of everything from their health care to their militaries to just you name it.
American taxpayers have been forking over money to the tune of trillions to all these different countries.
And then the, what is it, the trade balances, right?
That's one of the things that he really wants to stress from the economic security standpoint of this security plan is making sure that, you know, if we're allowing one country to sell and market stuff to our consumers and the American economy, but we're not allowed to reciprocate that and market those, our stuff to their economy, these are the issues that President Trump has really been raising the red flag about and saying, no, no more.
We're not going to get ripped off by our allies.
And we're going to start revisiting all of these relationships, both in the Western hemisphere and abroad, to make sure that if we are doing stuff with other nations, that we're burden sharing, right?
That if there's some, if it's mutually beneficial, everyone's going to contribute.
This is something that he mentioned with the NATO issue of not everyone contributing their fair share of resources and just even going to the pharmaceutical stuff, right?
Like the pharmaceutical industries, as well from an economic standpoint, have been selling drugs and both, what is it, like the general drugs to other countries at a fraction of the cost that they've been selling them to the American people.
And so when you look across the board from economics, America's been getting ripped off.
And this national security plan really tackles that.
And he really addresses the fact that we're going to burden share now with other nations.
We're going to have access to supply chains and materials.
We're going to have energy dominance.
All of these things are going to be a direct benefit to the American consumer.
And it's also going to make us more independent and sovereign as a nation.
Because going back to the pharmaceuticals, when we get a bunch of our generic drugs from a country like China, and we have no way to replace those if somehow tensions get high, I think it was, it might have been Dr. Oz, don't quote me on this, but one of one of the administration officials said that if all of a sudden, you know, China were to stop those drugs, we would only have enough to get the next couple of weeks.
So how many Americans are dependent on foreign countries for drugs, for energies, for you name it?
And one of the missions of the Trump administration is to make us more independent and less dependent on these foreign nations.
Yeah, there's also been economic impacts, to your point, that deals with this cultural drift that we're seeing.
You know, it was a few months back that I think Vice President Vance addressed a group of European leaders and highlighted that, guys, we're not having as many shared values as we once had.
When you're going off and censoring free speech, you know, we don't appreciate that.
We believe it's a God-given right to have that right of expression.
And you're censoring people.
And most notably, from an economic impact perspective, the European Union issued a fine of $140 million against Elon Musk's X Corporation for violation of some of its censorship provisions.
So this is a big deal.
And we got to get things straightened out.
And for the sake of the people of Europe, too.
I mean, we used to have those shared values and they're drifting so far into this totalitarian government theme that, you know, if America's strong, I strongly believe we can pull them back from the brink as well.
So this is for the good of Europe.
It's not, they're not just an adversary.
I think this is giving them a little bit of an example, saying, guys, this is important that we get back to our roots that establish a strong relationship between us.
So what do you, as far as our adversaries are concerned, what were the key adversaries highlighted and what's our response in this national security strategy?
You know, I think two of the big ones that, and actually, we might have a clip that I can play for you.
One of the big ones, I covered the Reagan National Defense Forum over the weekend, watching a lot of those panels and things that went on.
And one of the biggest things that came up was obviously the threat of China, not just abroad and what's going on with Taiwan, but also, as you mentioned earlier, in the southern hemisphere and what's going on with Panama and then setting up down there.
But I have a clip, I believe it was from Rick Scott, Senator Rick Scott.
So if we can play that, we'll talk about it on the other side.
I think what's good is that the American public is waking up to the fact that China wants to destroy our way of life.
So I think if you did, we did a poll recently on, because I'm trying to make sure all the generic drugs from China come back to the United States because we should not trust them.
If we don't trust them with, you know, that they're going to hold back rare earths, they're going to hold back pharmaceuticals too.
The people want to buy American stuff and they know the quality is bad, but they also know China sells since fitinil in.
They have slave labor.
They steal everything they can steal.
So, I mean, I think we're heading, I think we're heading in the right direction of people making good decisions.
I think Congress, that's one thing that Congress, if you, all the committees I'm on, everybody, it's bipartisan.
People all agree.
So I think the American public is making the right decision.
So I think that we've got to hold them accountable.
And of course, President Trump did address China in the national security plan saying that, you know, while we will do business with China, gone are the days of China ripping off the American people.
And so things like reciprocity, he's really pushing for.
And I think the one great thing about President Trump that maybe he doesn't get enough credit for is that his time as a businessman, Patrick, building corporations and like American skylines across the country, he has this knowledge of how to juggle such complex stuff in the business world, right?
Everything from supply chain of like your business products to marketing to who you're trying to reach to negotiating deals.
And I think that's what makes him so effective, not just as a president dealing with our allies, but dealing with nations like China.
He knows how to walk into a room and try to have diplomatic negotiations where it's going to benefit the American consumer and the American country, but also it's going to put people in check who have been ripping us off, right?
Like he makes a great sell, even when it comes to dealing with threats like China and whoever it is.
He's just, he's truly a peace through strength type of president.
And his background in the business world, I think, makes him a more effective president.
Well, it's definitely a refreshing change.
I mean, Joe Biden did engage with negotiations with China, as evidenced by the Hunter Biden laptop.
He was getting 10% off the top of all their negotiations, if you will.
So yeah, it's refreshing because he's actually, President Trump's working for the American people.
Joe Biden was working for his syndicate and it had nothing to do with the American people.
So this is.
Yeah, and President Trump can recognize those bad deals.
And I think that's something we have a lot of people in Washington that are very ignorant on the negotiation and business side of things that President Trump sees this stuff in front of him and just goes, yeah, that's a bad deal.
Like that cannot happen.
And so the fact that he has that background makes it easier for him to recognize all the different ways the American people have been getting ripped off.
Yeah, and the tariff policy has been kind of central to him recalibrating these relationships with these foreign powers, in particular with China.
And it's refreshing.
I'm still curious about what the status of that $2,000 dividend check or tariff dividend check is going to be towards the end of the year here.
But the fact that we're even talking about that is refreshing because what he's really trying to do is rebalance this trade imbalance where, as you pointed out so eloquently, the America has been taken advantage of for too many years and by our allies as well as our adversaries.
And President Trump's hitting the reset button on that, not like Hillary Clinton with Russia, but with a brand new reset button, one that actually works and actually benefits the American people.
So thank you for staying on top of this.
I also, I don't know if you had a chance to listen in on Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
He actually addressed the defense industry recently.
And as somebody who used to work as a contractor with the Department of Defense, and I used to work for the Boeing Defense and Space Group, it's kind of a near and dear to my heart.
We know a lot of the folks that have been making the American defense industry and our military as a result, the best military in the world.
And so do you recall what he had to say to our defense industry?
Yeah, well, I mean, like, I covered quite a bit because there was a lot of really good information that came out throughout those panels.
I was just taking it all in because of this new role that I have at the Pentagon.
But one thing that really stuck out to me that they spoke about is really this like AI advancements, right?
Like, what does that mean for our military?
And I'm not sure if we'll get to both soundbites, but I have one sound bite of our undersecretary for the Department of War talking about how we learned from the Ukraine that when it comes to a war on territory, wars are fought with robots, quite literally.
And so I heard a soundbite from Secretary Hegseth on AI and what the future of that looks like for our military.
So if we have that clip, I'd love to play it real quick.
Would you rather to see your soldiers, Marines on the front lines armed with more AI capability or have them replaced with autonomous systems?
I think it's going to be both.
I mean, you watch the modern battlefield.
It has to be both.
A couple companies we visited yesterday and others I've seen, I mean, what AI is doing to 10, 100, 1,000 X, the speed of sensing and everything we do on the modern battlefield is critical.
But autonomy is, we see it in Ukraine, we see it out where we're learning from that.
The army's learning from that is a huge part of the way of the future.
So it's definitely going to be both.
Yeah.
What's notable?
Heather, have you ever heard of first robotics competition in schools?
No, but I know like I'm up in the New England area.
So Boston Robotics is very big here.
And I've like in some of what they do at the Boston Museum.
That's one of the companies I'm talking about in our schools.
We actually have competitions.
And this is maybe a geek thing because I'm an engineer at heart.
But we have these competitions in school, typically in high school, but it can go down to junior high, where we actually have students organize into project teams that compete against other project teams in different competitions.
And typically in America, these competitions focus on, you know, how to use robots to be more efficient with like placing boxes.
So you get a certain number of points for stacking boxes a certain height or putting them in a certain container or whatever the case may be.
But when you go over to China and you see they have first robotics competition equivalent over there, and guess what they're simulating in their competition?
They're simulating networked warfare, where they show how swarms of robots can be used to overwhelm an enemy's defenses.
A little bit different approach to the use of robotics than here in the United States.
So I, for one, am happy to see that America is getting serious about using AI in context of defense.
Although you're always going to have that specter of Terminator hanging over your head there.
But when I got folks like Pete Hegseth and President Trump at the helm, I'm a little less worried about that than when Joe Biden's the one with the briefcase.
100%.
Yeah.
And it's like both exciting and terrifying when you look at all the different uses for AI and technology and the drones that they're looking for.
You know, as far as one theme that I did hear come up over the weekend at this defense forum regarding the AI is that China doesn't have like the regulations or the limitations that we do here.
There's a lot of discussion around the ethical nature of some of this stuff.
And it's just like, what are we allowed to do?
Like we have to keep it, you know, because people are terrified of it, quite frankly, that they want to only give us a little bit of room to kind of experiment and develop these kind of projects.
Whereas in China, it's like it's a free-for-all.
It's like you can do whatever.
You can, you know, they don't have any limits.
So that's definitely one of the conversations I don't even know the answer to.
Like, you know, we want regulations, but we also want to be the leading innovator.
So how do you balance that?
Well, actually, I think that gets to the core of what I want to leave everybody with at the end of this show here.
And it kind of harkens back to the concept of what are American values.
And so I want to say thank you before we get into that point.
Thank you for joining us today, Heather.
Thank you for your work and keeping us up to date on everything that's going on at the Pentagon and national security in general for Lindell TV.
It's great to have you aboard on the team here.
Well, thank you so much, Patrick.
It's been a pleasure.
I appreciate it.
So, you know, just to kind of keep, there is a difference in the moral values here between a country like America and a country like China.
And I, you know, I've been doing a lot of flashbacks to history here.
And I'm going to do another flashback here.
And it's going to go back to President George Washington's farewell address.
And after serving two terms as America's first president, he wanted to leave us with some guidance and warnings about, you know, how to retain this greatness that America developed into in just a short eight years as a new country.
And in his farewell address, he warned us that of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable support.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duty of men and citizens.
Now, while this address is pretty well documented, I don't have video footage of George Washington actually making that statement, but I do have video footage of President Reagan in his farewell address, and he discusses our cultural heritage and what it means to be an American.
I just wanted to leave everybody with this clip.
Finally, there is a great tradition of warnings in presidential farewells.
And I've got one that's been on my mind for some time.
But oddly enough, it starts with one of the things I'm proudest of in the past eight years.
The resurgence of national pride that I called the new patriotism.
This national feeling is good, but it won't count for much, and it won't last unless it's grounded in thoughtfulness and knowledge.
And informed patriotism is what we want.
And are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what America is and what she represents in the long history of the world?
Those of us who are over 35 or so years of age grew up in a different America.
We were taught very directly what it means to be an American.
And we absorbed almost in the air a love of country and an appreciation of its institutions.
If you didn't get these things from your family, you got them from the neighborhood, from the father down the street who fought in Korea, or the family who lost someone at Anseal.
Or you can get a sense of patriotism from school.
And if all else failed, you could get a sense of patriotism from the popular culture.
The movies celebrated democratic values and implicitly reinforced the idea that America was special.
TV was like that too through the mid-60s.
But now we're about to enter the 90s and some things have changed.
Younger parents aren't sure that an unambivalent appreciation of America is the right thing to teach modern children.
And as for those who create the popular culture, well-grounded patriotism is no longer the style.
Our spirit is back, but we haven't reinstitutionalized it.
We've got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom.
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise.
And freedom is special and rare.
It's fragile.
It needs production.
So we've got to teach history based not on what's in fashion, but what's important.
Why the pilgrims came here.
Who Jimmy Doolittle was, and what those 30 seconds over Tokyo meant.
You know, four years ago on the 40th anniversary of D-Day, I read a letter from a young woman writing to her late father who had fought on Omaha Beach.
Her name was Lisa Zanata Henn, and she said, we will always remember, we will never forget what the boys of Normandy did.
Well, let's help her keep her word.
If we forget what we did, we won't know who we are.
I'm warning of an eradication of that, of the American memory that could result ultimately in an erosion of the American spirit.
Let's start with some basics.
More attention to American history and a greater emphasis on civic ritual.
And let me offer lesson number one about America.
All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
So tomorrow night in the kitchen, I hope the talking begins.
And children, if your parents haven't been teaching you what it means to be an American, let them know and nail them on it.
That would be a very American thing to do.
And that's about all I have to say tonight, except for one thing.
The past few days when I've been at that window upstairs, I've thought a bit of the shining city upon a hill.
The phrase comes from John Winthrop, who wrote it to describe the America he imagined.
What he imagined was important because he was an early pilgrim, an early freedom man.
He journeyed here on what today we'd call a little wooden boat.
And like the other pilgrims, he was looking for a home that would be free.
I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it.