Michael Knowles MIC DROP Moments From BAR FIGHT Debates
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No, not all that.
Hold on, I gotta, I have a whole sentence that you're interrupting.
You have to go to their page to see it.
You have just described how government works, yes.
Don't you want to protect the millions of babies that are being slaughtered by their parents?
That's a federal crime.
42 U.S. Code, Section 408.
Sure.
It's a federal crime to kill a social security number.
You never found evidence linking him to 100.
But even so.
Never found evidence.
The money went straight to his house.
That's not true.
That's it.
Was he a Republican or was he a Democrat?
No, he's a psychopath.
I don't want to embarrass you, Adam.
That makes you look like a weirdo.
You should have clapped.
Okay, next question.
Okay.
This question is for Xena.
I'm assuming you're a supporter of Black Lives Matter?
I do believe Black Lives Matter, yes.
Okay, okay, good, good.
So if you're in favor of protecting black lives, where do you believe the most dangerous place in our country is right now for black children?
That depends.
Probably at the hands of law enforcement.
I think that would be like the worst place for a lot of black children to be.
Okay, so according to the CDC, 17 million black babies have been aborted since Roe v. Wade.
That's 35% of the current black population in America.
Unfortunately, if you really care about Black Lives Matter, wouldn't you want to protect the millions of babies that are being slaughtered by their parents?
Yeah.
So the only problem is when you're with your girlfriend and she needs to get a plan B, we don't kind of charge her with murder, right?
That's because fetuses don't have plants.
Who needs to get a plan B?
It's an abortive drug.
A lot of people.
You don't need to.
You can just get the kid.
You could, or you can also, you know, engage in your rights and get a plan B. Like a lot of men.
You could kill your kid, but he's saying that's bad and it's bad specific.
So any women in here who have IUDs, you could be considered a murderer, according to Michael Knowles.
No, IUDs are not necessarily abortive fashion or the plan B. In many different cases, IUDs will actually remove eggs, but they're different.
They're eggs from fertilized eggs from the uterus.
And that could lead to, or implantation, you're right.
And that would lead to a baby no longer being able to be conceived.
So yes, that would be considered a murder of a human person, right?
That would be equal to any of the lives in here, which isn't the case.
If we had like 50 fetuses just like stacked up on this on this table and we took 50 people from the audience, would you say like these lives are worth the same?
Are those lives the same?
Yeah, I think all human life has dignity.
So if we said, okay, let's take Luke over here.
If we said Luke or one fetus, like literally sitting on the table.
Xena, between which human beings.
I like Luke.
Come on, that's not nice.
She didn't even ask the question yet.
Which one would you, if you had to choose between saving the life of Luke or a fetus sat on this table, which one would you choose?
Xena, when do you believe that human beings get science up?
Okay, next question.
That sums everything up.
Hey, so I want to speak to your analogy.
said if in response to the ICE agents coming into cities where the governors are saying they don't want them, you said if someone came into your house uninvited, there would be consequences.
So this country is our house, is our home.
So how would you feel about the consequences for the people who are here illegally and uninvited?
Great point.
You know.
Great point.
I was just reading about, reading up on statistics on that today, and some of you are going to hate this, but it's factual.
Immigrants, including undocumented immigrants, are less likely to commit crime than people who were born in this country.
And statistically, the more immigrants there are in a community, the less crime there is in that community.
Statistically, 100% of that immigrants have uninvited people.
It's factually true.
It's a little complicated.
Let's be clear about it.
He just said they already committed a crime.
I want to be clear.
Being in the country, most people who are here without papers got here on like a tourist visa and overstayed.
Most people who are here illegally did not.
No, not overlaps.
Hold on.
I have a whole sentence that you're interrupting.
But to be clear, legally, if all you've done is been in this country without papers, that's legally more like a misdemeanor closer to a parking ticket than it is to a felony.
That's a fact.
So hold on.
You make a very good point, which is that first-time entry barring other conditions can be a misdemeanor for sure.
Reentry would be a felony.
There are other associated crimes with this.
However, I would ask one question.
Do illegal aliens pay federal taxes?
Yeah, actually, they do.
They do.
They whole tax and income tax often.
90% of the city.
Actually, the IRS is a whole system for people who are undocumented to file taxes.
Okay, so I'm glad.
And by the way, economists overwhelmingly believe that immigration, including illegal immigration, is a net positive.
Forget about that.
I just have one overwhelming question.
I have one question for you.
Because if you make the point, as you have, that actually, you know, illegal aliens, even though they don't have Social Security numbers, they do pay federal taxes because to get employment, sometimes they'll use other Social Security numbers.
So they don't get the benefits, but they do pay into the system, which is a fact.
Yeah, okay.
That's a federal crime.
42 U.S. Code, Section 408.
It's a federal crime to steal a Social Security number.
So there you go.
You got it.
But I just want to be clear.
I'm going to clear the process for people to pay taxes without.
Stealing the Social Security number, which you just admitted is that you're going to money up violent crime versus paperwork.
Okay, so now it's option.
It's not that they don't commit crimes, it's that they don't get violent crime.
Who has not had a speeding ticket ever in this room?
I don't know if it's going to allow you to.
There's a lot of good drivers out there.
They'll throw you into a prison surrounded by alligators because of your speeding ticket.
Also, also funny.
Fun fact, more than 70% of people in ICE custody today don't even have an accusation of a crime, let alone a record.
I think the accusation is they came into the country illegally.
Okay.
So, I mean, just be consistent.
I've been very consistent.
Be consistent.
I am consistently.
If you didn't want story about Hunter Biden, you better be 100 times as outraged at Trump going, getting the UAE to invest billions, make his World Liberty Financial billions in a business deal, and then immediately, all of a sudden, he releases the restrictions on the AI chips that they really wanted, and which could then get into China's hands because he was enriched.
Same thing with the Binance guy.
He ends up pardoning the guy after Binance makes a bunch of money for World Liberty Financial.
That's brazen corruption, right?
Yeah, I guess my point is, on some of these, no, you know, on some of these, on some of On a lot of these financial dealings of Trump, a lot of it occurred during the interregnum.
The crypto thing occurred before he was brought in.
No, no, not the UAE deal.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought you brought up crypto earlier, which is usually the one that most people are doing.
I'm saying, how could you justify someone giving benefits to either people through pardons or countries through restriction relief after that country or that person enriches his family to the tune of billions?
Listen, I think that President Trump has done a very good job being an international businessman, leveraging relationships for the good of the American.
I think that's true.
And what I also.
Wait, were you ever mad about Hunter Biden and Joe Biden?
Yeah, I was mad that the Biden family sold Americans and fired a Ukrainian official in order to enrich his sons.
Yeah, I think those are different.
Biden was, you never found evidence linking him to Hunter, but even so.
Never found evidence.
The money went straight to his house.
That's not true.
It did.
It did a wrote a speech.
A reimbursement of a loan.
But after all of y'all made of that, a whole big scandal, and then Trump takes all over, and there's no ambiguity.
And his sons are going around the world making a bunch of money for his family, and then he's trading favorites.
Yeah, listen, he has a very successful business, and his sons are businessmen.
Do you take back everything about Hunter?
Certainly not.
That was brazen corruption.
What's the difference?
What's the difference?
Here's the difference.
Here's the difference.
Eric and Donald Trump Jr.
Someone in the crowd.
I'd love to hear you explain that.
You're so mad and proud.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Here's the difference.
Eric and Donald Trump Jr. have very long-standing business careers long before Donald Trump entered office.
They don't have specific deals with people who need something from the government.
They have the New Deal.
He doesn't want me to answer the question.
He doesn't want me to answer the question.
You don't know what I'm talking about.
Trump is a good idea.
I can tell you the difference if you want.
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Now, if anyone has any questions, any, oh, I see the line is already very long.
Okay.
Hey, what's up?
I was just at Raising Canes with some friends and they're like, oh, we need some people that probably like aren't Republicans in here.
So we're in here now.
If you're a Republican, no, hey, I'm like kind of way more small government leaning.
So like all this like, oh, like what the states want and what the mayor wants.
I'm just going to do what I want because I'm the White House is like kind of psycho to me, right?
Like that's not, that's probably not going to foster like a healthy society when you have like the federal government really overstepping.
Coming from this side of things, I'm just kind of curious, why are you so set on making like left-wing violence and right-wing violence?
Because like obviously, sometimes people are psychopaths, right?
Like we're on the same page there.
Like there's people that like, oh, they grew up in a MAGA household and then they like got addicted to porn on like porchan and they be you know they go psycho and they kill people and it's so weird to watch like experts be like was he Republican or was he a Democrat?
I said no he's a psychopath.
Like I come so I have my master's degree in psychology, right?
That's why I don't care.
And like I just think it's kind of stupid, just to be real with you.
Okay, I just can't even.
Yeah.
So it's just very reductive the way that we do this.
Yeah, I think that's a great point.
I think one thing that I will say is that if we look at some of the trends that are worth looking at, there is a real white male violence problem.
Just about every time there's a shooting.
I know you've decided that all comments that paint white neighbor bad light is bad.
Do we have to break out the crime statistics because I don't know if we want to break out?
Just about every time you're a shooter, it's like, oh, surprise, surprise.
It's another white guy who got radicalized online.
We have a radicalization problem.
You think white guys are more likely to commit violent crime than other races?
No, I didn't say that.
In mass shooting specifically, there's a radicalization problem with white men, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Well, I guess one thought that I would have in response to your question is: the reason why it matters if they're on the left and the right, some people are just psychotic and you can't identify an ideological motive.
Sure, that's true.
But sometimes you can.
And it seems to me that if you want to fix a problem, you have to first identify what the problem is.
And so if you refuse, if you just bury your head in the sand, or if you say it's the other side, then you're not going to solve the problem.
In all of the complexity of conversation, nobody has asked directly, what is capitalism?
And can you explain the differences between Democrats and Republican thinking?
I want to go.
Zina.
This is my thing.
Everybody.
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are owned privately.
Think of means of production as factories, as land, as the things that we use to create, it's capital, right?
The things that we use to create capital.
These things, this means production are owned by a very small few.
Not many people own the means of production.
Most of us are selling our labor.
Like, for example, most of you guys have a nine-to-five that you go and you get a kind of a wage back, right, from capitalists, those who own means of production.
The problem is we assume that people who own the means of production earn that somehow, when really, the people who did first acclaim the majority of these resources, it happened a long time ago and they kept passing it down generation, generation, generations.
The problem is people who first came here, they did a lot of bad stuff.
They took a lot of land and their ancestors still owned that land.
They were heroes.
Wait, wait, wait.
The people who slaughtered a bunch of people and then took all their land and then started profiting off of it and then also selling people's labor and their livelihoods for money.
Those are heroes.
Interesting point.
The Indians slaughtered a lot of people too, if we're being totally honest about that.
Do we want to compare numbers?
I don't think that it would look good, right?
Well, we won the war, isn't it?
Yeah, you won the war by doing what, Michael?
Well, by settling the land and building a great country that you live in.
Taking land that people were already living on by killing them, starting to move towards them, and also women.
So, yeah.
Where did you get that?
That happened all the time.
With that being said, that's what capitalism is.
I have a question to you, Prime Minister.
Republicans and Republicans and Democrats both support capitalism, right?
Of course.
But capitalism is a system that is exceedingly failing as the gap between us and the 1% and people who own all this capital continues to increase, increase, increase.
What's going to happen, especially as AI comes along that continues to be able to do your job, is that 1% of the population is going to own all that AI that can do your jobs.
And what happens then when they can create the labor and supply it for themselves?
Okay, Xena's question for your point.
So you say that capitalism is where the means of production are owned privately.
I agree with that.
And you say that a very, very small number of people own the means of production.
So my question to you is, how many Americans invest in the stock market?
How many Americans have the means to invest in the stock market?
How many Americans have to invest in the stock market?
What's the answer?
Majority of Americans are wrong.
What is the answer?
What percentage of Americans invest in the stock market?
Not many because not many people.
62%.
So most Americans own the means of production.
And how many Americans are profiting significantly?
22% because we have the highest stock market ever.
That doesn't mean that everyone is profiting from the stock market.
They are.
Everyone is invested in it.
Most of the man's invested in the SP is doing great.
I understand what you're saying, that it's self-inflicted, because I think if a man sees a problem, he shouldn't blame anybody else for it.
He should do whatever he has to do to fix the problem.
But what do you think?
What do you think?
What do you think about the fact that an estimated 1.4 million women in America are on OnlyFans, and most of them aren't making any money from it?
So if you're, well, but if you're in college, if you're in college and you're trying to meet the person you're going to be with the rest of your life, what are you supposed to do when like 25% of the chicks are on there are showing their tits online for free marketing?
Well, then that's not.
Okay, so then, well, since they're out there and you know they're on OnlyFans and that you already can write them off as the chick you don't want.
So I guess they're exposing themselves so that you know that's not.
I'm just saying it's like harder to catch a fish when you dump toxic waste in the pond is all I'm saying.
You know, hold on.
His other problem with it, your problem with it, right when you said the question was not that they're on OnlyFans, but that they're not making any money from it.
That's the big, there's an argument if she's making a million dollars.
Listen, I mean, if they're doing it for no money, that's just stupid.
but also there can't be a seller without a buyer.
So maybe if Meg stopped going.
That's true too.
I think it's gross.
The reason why OnlyFans is popular is because a lot of lonely young men buy OnlyFans.
There can't be a seller without a buyer.
Why aren't those lonely young people?
But if there's nothing to buy, you can't buy it.
If there's nothing to buy, you can't buy it.
I thought we liked free market capitalism in here.
I thought if there was demand for it, it's not unrestrained by a moral order.
If there is demand, wait, so you're okay.
I don't worship mammoth.
Are you okay with the government stepping in if there's a immortal order?
So is the government in your eyes?
I don't really know much about your ideology.
Is the government in your eyes the ultimate arbiter of what's moral and what's not?
No, there's an objective moral order that we can intuit because we're creatures of reason.
OnlyFans is objectively bad in your eyes?
Yeah, for sure.
Not in my eyes, so it's not objective.
Yeah, I don't care.
No, just because you're wrong about something doesn't mean it's not objective.
That's convenient.
That's convenient for you.
No, no.
Listen, two plus two equals four.
You talk to a three-year-old kid, he might think two plus two equals five.
That doesn't mean that we just throw our hands in the air and come to a conference.
There's a creator economy in OnlyFans with not only millions or 1.4 million girls participating, but even more millions of men.
So all of these people in your eyes are just complete moral degenerates who are wrong.
Yeah, basically.
But they're all in the middle of the morning.
What's your governmental prescription to stop that from happening?
What's your prescription?
Does the government step in and regulate OnlyFans, stop men from buying that?
Okay, wait, I'm not.
Yeah, basically.
That's not small government.
That's more government.
So you want more government to step in.
Yeah, I want a proper, limited government that pursues the common good.
I'm not a libertarian, but I'm a conservative.
But I want to ask the audience a quick question.
Do you, okay, for the guys in here, clap if you would want to see OnlyFans completely go away?
Okay, okay, wait.
Anyway, now.
Hold on, Adam, you're not clapping.
Now clap if you wouldn't want it to go away.
I don't get it.
You don't have to watch that.
Hold on.
I don't want to embarrass you, Adam.
But notice here.
She said, you want to see this disgusting pornography site go away?
And clap if you want to do it.
And you didn't clap.
That makes you look like a weirdo.
You should have clapped.
You should have clapped.
Can I just explain?
Yes.
I'm just rather agnostic.
I think if there's supply and demand, I think there's women being exploited, selling their bodies for sex.
They're going to be washed out of it.
They're going to have trouble getting jobs.
No man's going to want them like I'm not going to be able to do it.
That's their personal decision, though.
That's their personal decision.
That's a bad decision.
I think it's valid word.
So are you their boss or their dad?
No, I'm a citizen in a self-governing republic.
It makes laws.
You have to go to their page to see it.
You know what my question is?
If you want the government to be able to step in and regulate something like OnlyFans, which it currently does on the books, by the way.
It's a problem.
When the government is arbitrating what's moral like that, then what happens when the next administration comes in and they say, hmm, any dude with a mic who is spewing stuff like Michael Knowles is, I think that that's immoral.
I think that that is objectively immoral, and I want to regulate dudes with microphones.
There is a slippery slope.
You have just described how government works.
Yes, that's true.
There is a...
No, no, no.
I am describing what happens when one government overreaches and tries to impose their morals on a slippery slope.
Wait, so if you're saying this is how government works, why doesn't the Trump administration regulate and ban OnlyFans?
Like everyone in this room wants?
Because they are not going to do that.
Well, because the Supreme Court weakened the obscenity laws, which have been on the book since the founding of the country, and they did that in the middle of the 20th century, which is not a problem.
So it's not how administrations work.
Because the Supreme Court is not allowing the administration to do it.
No, but George W. Bush prosecuted a pornographer for obscenity in 2008.
One pornographer is different than banning an industry.
At the federal level.
You want the government to ban an industry.
When's the last time the government's banned an industry that has demand?
What was the answer out there?
Prostitute.
Well, it depends in certain places, prostitutes.
I was going to say it still is.
When's the last time they have banned federally some sort of demand market?
Narcotics.
Narcotics?
Not, marijuana for that matter, at the federal level.
Not at the state level.
I guess that works, but I just don't think that's comparable to OnlyFans.
Adam, wouldn't you say that all laws to some degree have recourse to morality?
Because we say this is good and this is bad, and we need to be good to the asylum seekers and we need to be good to the trans children or whatever.
You're always making recourse to moral arguments.
You just don't like it when we do it.
No, it's the thing about you, though, is that all of your positions are personal decisions and morals for you that you want to impose on me.
No, well, I think actually that statement that you just made, that's your personal opinion about how government should work.
But I don't want you to impose that personal opinion about what I can do with my government on me.
And I don't want you to decide, oh, all these women and men can't do OnlyFans.
Well, I don't want you to decide that I can't decide that all those women and men can do OnlyFans.
You can't have that opinion, but you can't actually make it.
And you can have that opinion too, but you can't make me listen to you when you say that I can't make the government ban OnlyFans.
That's what I'm trying to do, though.
The difference between you and I is I don't want to put anything in the legislation that stops.
And the difference between you and I is I don't want women to be trafficked for pornography.
Who is being trafficked when they decide to do it themselves?
You have to go to the page.
Do the prostitutes on the street decide for themselves?