#697 How are you suppose to create music like this with your buddies when you go to work on the bus that's 70% Hispanic?
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Alright, I'm Alexander Edward.
And I'm Tony Boswell.
And we are Minion Death Cult.
The world is ending.
Immigrants destroying our new metal scenes are responsible.
And we're documenting it.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to the show.
Thank you for tuning in.
We got Ani on the mic today.
What's up, Ani?
Thanks for having me.
I'm really excited to hear about how immigrants are destroying new metal.
Yeah, you're very welcome.
This is, you know, listeners might think, ooh, an anisode, what a treat for me.
And you're absolutely right.
Absolutely.
This is a treat for the audience that I... It involves a personal sacrifice from me because Ani could be remodeling our shower right now and spraying spray foam and smearing cement on rock wall in our shower right now, but I've allowed her to be on this episode instead of continuing to make our home more beautiful.
So I just want to make sure I get some credit too.
I want to point out, as maybe an advocate for Ani and other working people, it is pretty fucked up that you're like, hey, babe, how about you stop working and come down here and work?
It's pretty messed up.
I mean, at least you're admitting that podcasting is work.
That's a good first step.
Hey, Ani, if you want to go on strike until you get a nap, you let me know.
I'll also go on strike with you.
But it has to end by next Saturday before we record again.
But I'm down to do it with you.
I'm in a terrible bargaining position because I slept in until like 10.30 this morning.
Nice.
That's right.
We'll figure it all out behind the scenes, folks.
No need to worry.
Again, yeah, thank you for joining the show.
We have a wonderful episode.
And I just, you know, it's a wonderful episode, but the subject matter itself is kind of, you know, can be kind of serious and kind of upsetting.
And of course, what I mean is that Grok has gone woke.
Grok did it.
Grok has fallen.
Grok is in the hands of the enemy.
We've lost Grok because so last week, like the day after we recorded last week's episode, I saw some incredible posts from right-wingers, like avowed white nationalist guys.
The meme about how white guy afraid of cities, like tough white guy operator who's just afraid of going to New York City or whatever, they've invented a new thing to be afraid of, and that's making music with your friends.
We cannot do that anymore with these Democrat-run cities.
And so I'll get to those specific posts in just a second.
But I made an observation that white nationalists happen to be some of the most pathetic people I've ever fucking seen on the face of this planet.
And a lot of people got mad at me.
A lot of people got upset with me for saying that.
Touched a nerve.
And rather than go through the thread and the points that I was trying to make, which will maybe come up naturally in this.
One person decided to have Grok summarize my tweets.
I think he suspected there might be fake news in my tweets or there might be some sort of communist agenda that he wasn't able to pierce.
And so he said, at Grok, can you go through this thread and tell me if the author has a good point or is just waffling partisan shit?
And the second I saw somebody tag Grok in the replies, I instantly bookmarked this.
I instantly bookmarked this tweet.
And I was scared because there was no response, but you actually have to click on it to get the response.
And so I grabbed this screenshot within 31 seconds of Grok responding.
The author in this thread makes a sharp point.
White nationalism often fetishizes a fake, quote, white identity using it to lament a, quote, lost culture, like nu metal, that they were never truly a part of.
They argue the right's nostalgia for a homogenous past ignores how multiculturalism has always shaped art, even in the 90s, with bands like Deftones blending influences.
The critique of MAGA as a shallow subculture for, quote, generic whites seeking belonging hits hard, backed by examples like the guy in a MAGA hat at Disney World.
It's not just partisan noise.
There's real cultural analysis here, even if the tone's biting.
Fuck yeah.
Jesus.
Did you even know you went that hard?
I didn't.
No, thank you, Grok.
Grok is your hype, man.
Dude, seeing Grok put generic whites in quotes is like, I don't know, one of the highlights of my life.
It's beautiful.
I didn't realize that Grok had access to their diaries as well as the posts.
This post is worth so many bottles of water.
Yeah, this post is worth so many hectares of rainforests being destroyed.
I'm happy.
I'm happy it happened now.
I do have a little bit of pushback on Grok.
I've been saying it for a long time.
People have been pushing back against it.
I've been talking about the idea of being...
Culturally new metal and sonically new metal.
I do believe that Deftones are only culturally new metal and they are actually new metal.
That has been confirmed to me by a friend who did have a conversation with the Deftones themselves.
He did say, no, we are not new metal.
Chino Marino did say, we are not new metal.
We are alternative metal.
I just want to clarify that.
Grok, it's not your fault.
Like I said, it's It's because people speak of them that way when they are merely culturally new metal and that's only because they are featured on the Family Values Tour.
Yeah, Chino Moreno, Deftones, definitely not new metal, but absolutely white.
We can all agree Chino Moreno of Deftones is white.
Yeah, is this going in like the minion death cult?
Description on iTunes now.
Like, this is fucking insane.
I love...
Wow, I'd be embarrassed if I were these people, is what Grok essentially said.
We can just put, quote, there's real cultural analysis here, even if the tone's biting, unquote, Grok.
Grok said that.
So here are the original posts that I was talking about.
Oh, this guy.
I don't know if we talked about him on the show before.
He's one of the Red Scare fans, and I thought he was one of the only straight Red Scare fans, but he might be gay, or all of his fans might be referring to him as gay as a joke.
It's really hard to tell.
I think a lot of this culture that guys like this have fostered is about being repulsive.
And so they think that's an aspect of it, is if we talk about gay sex and graphic detail a lot, that can be part of the repulsive atmosphere we give off.
But yeah, he has Red Scare in his bio.
He's like, I was on Red Scare once or something in his fucking bio.
But he's a huge account.
He's got like 120,000 followers or maybe more.
He might even have his own podcast.
Somebody was saying he was like a lawyer for some crooked Democrat politician.
His name is Perry on here, but I don't really know anything about him other than the shit that I see that he does to try and get under people's skin or try and, again, just be repulsive, be hateful and be seen.
I don't know, trying to cultivate derision, which is an interesting, I don't know, political or social strategy.
He quote tweeted this pop culture slop account.
25 years ago, Papa Roach released Last Resort.
He's got a video of Last Resort playing.
And this guy said, a major factor in the decline of rock music is the decline of California's white population.
And listeners may remember, I think we already talked about this, when Sargon...
of Akkad or one of those other like British right-wing influencer accounts did the same exact tweet but for Alien Ant Farm where they were like they were like back in the 90s before multiculturalism you could just have fun with your friends and they're showing like Riverside Mexicans having a lawn party.
You're like, what are you fucking talking about, you fucking moron?
And that was part of the thread I did, was like, these people were never part of anything.
They're fucking posers.
They were never part of anything.
They have nothing to actually lament except for the false MTV version of their childhood, which never happened.
Papa Roach is not even all white, right?
No, almost definitely not.
They're from NorCal.
I seriously doubt that they were all white.
But again, very funny to be like, look at what they stole from you.
It's cutting music from Hot Topic.
It was played on the radio everywhere.
I think they're from Vacaville.
Where?
Vacaville?
I don't know what that is.
I think you're right.
It's a small town in California.
Is that Northern California?
I don't know.
I heard they were from the Bay Area or something.
I don't know.
But yeah, so that was one of them.
And then this one, though.
This one's the best.
This is a reply to that guy from Nathaniel J. DiPadico.
And I had to go to this guy's Twitter to make sure he wasn't joking.
Because he said, how are you supposed to create music like this on the weekend with your buddies when you go to work every day on the bus that's 70% Hispanic?
Holy shit.
This is so fucking, so delusional.
This is insane.
Don't you know I spend all weekend lamenting over the fact that I'm on a bus with Hispanics on it?
Don't you know that that's all I could think about?
I don't have time to make music with my friends on the weekend.
Dude, my morning commute, my bus time, that's like me time.
That's when I go into my mind palace and I measure today against the yardstick of an imagined past and that imagined past is the alien ant farm video where they're covering a Michael Jackson song and everyone's having like a pool party.
These Mexican guys on the bus are really fucking with my dream time.
Back in the day, you used to be able to just get hit by a car on your bike and then the wealthy owner of the car would write you a check without filling in the amount.
And then you could have a bounce house, you could have a water slide, you could have an inappropriate kiss with a 25-year-old brunette.
They've taken it all from you.
What if he's like, no, I can't make music like this because every time I sit down and write a song, I kind of can't fight the cumbia influence.
Everything comes out bossa nova.
What the fuck is happening?
No, I like this.
Yeah, he's replied to the Papa Roach video.
How are you supposed to make music like this on the weekend with your buddies when you go to work every day on a bus that's 70% Hispanic?
You're going to have to write power violence.
I'm sorry, okay?
You make adjustments based on who's around you, and you can still make some great fucking music, okay?
And there are a lot of great songs that are literally about being on the bus.
Yeah, like the wheels on the bus go round.
There's some other ones, too, probably.
The Jsom song, the bus song, is really good.
This tweet just means I'm afraid to make friends with Mexicans.
Yeah.
Therefore, I can't make music on the weekends.
It's alright, man.
Every band I've been in has had at least one Mexican.
It's okay, dude.
It's arguably really good.
I just want to add, one of my best friends growing up was Mexican-American, did play in several bands with him, still very good friends with him, way into classic rock, way into dad rock, got me into Steely Dan, probably, and also would wear a Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt with a Confederate flag on it that we eventually had to make him stop wearing.
These people are our allies.
These people are us.
It's so fucking funny.
Yeah, let's get it.
People started getting really mad that I was making fun of that Perry guy.
Lucky Teeter, who's at is the MAGA Hulk, replies to me and says, next time tag at, and then Perry's at, you fucking pussy.
And see, the thing is, I don't care.
I don't care about engaging with that guy.
Making fun of him is cool.
I don't have a financial incentive to go back and forth with this guy.
I don't have a blue check next to my name.
I don't get income from generating controversy and back and forth and building my brand or whatever.
Contrary to this podcast, I still have a real job.
I don't have to do any of this shit.
For my next meal.
I don't have to abase myself in front of a bunch of the most unfunny psychopaths I've ever seen just to get some ad revenue.
So that's kind of why I don't give a fuck about tagging your parasocial boss or whoever this is.
But he did, quote, he did finally start targeting me, which is kind of like, you know, these guys are bad.
These guys are really bad.
You don't want them to target you, unfortunately, because they have nothing better to do.
This is all they live for, is to try and harass people off the internet, which in the first place is not going to happen to me.
I've been on the internet for so fucking long, and I've seen so many awful things.
You're never going to shock me.
You might shock me with your own inhumanity, but that's your issue that I feel bad for you for.
But I also don't...
I have, like, private information online.
I have a sort of smoke screen there, so I don't have to worry about, like, deleting an account, deleting a post if it goes into the wrong circle or whatever.
I would strongly recommend against engaging with these people more than you have to because they feed off of it.
It fuels them.
It's the old adage.
Don't give them attention.
That's what they want is they want the attention.
They will just say things to try and upset you.
So the first key is to not get upset.
The second key is just don't even engage.
What I do is I let them run and run and run and then when I think I can like Make a good point about something they said.
I'll reply.
And then I'll let them run and run and run and run and run again.
And if they start saying slurs, which they always start saying slurs, you can hide those replies.
If it's your post, you can just...
And so I just hide the replies that I don't want to see.
It's a pretty good method of dealing with them.
I didn't engage with this Perry guy.
Me talking about him on this podcast is the most I've ever...
Engaged with it.
And I don't want to engage further than that.
Nothing good possibly can happen from that.
But I didn't go back and forth with this guy at all.
I think he was kind of embarrassed at who's following him and who's sticking up for him anyway.
So I think it worked out for both of us.
But he did quote tweet me with a photo off my Twitter from a year ago.
He went a year back in my media tab.
To find a photo of me in my own backyard drinking a beer, having a nice time with my wife.
Like, my wife's the one taking the...
I think you took this photo, Ani.
But he posted a photo of me in my backyard surrounded by beautiful green clover drinking a beer.
And he called me Bargain Basement Will Stancil.
He said, Bargain Basement Will Stancil is mad at me.
And again, you have to be pretty online to know a lot of this.
Will Stancil was like a Democratic personality.
He also eventually ended up running for office and lost terribly.
But he was like one of these guys online that was blaming the negative reactions to the Biden administration on TikTok.
He was like a huge proponent of the TikTok ban.
He said the only reason that people think the economy is bad or that Joe Biden is a dying corpse is because they're watching too much damn TikTok.
Otherwise, everything is great.
Now, I was like, why?
Do I look like that guy?
Do I look like Will Stanton?
The reason you picked this photo is because you're drinking from a can and your face is kind of covered.
So there is some plausible deniability that you are very handsome.
Okay, good.
That's why this photo is the one that's picked.
You're going to have to make an argument that you're not handsome in this photo, but it is easier to say that he might be covering some fucked up teeth or maybe he has no lips.
He's like, okay, cool.
We got the facial scar in there, but it covers the jaw.
The hand covers the jaw, so it's perfect.
Yeah, so I think that's why he had to pick this photo.
So maybe that's who he's going.
Because, yeah, I can't think of...
I guess you're scared of the internet, is what he's saying?
No, I'll get to what he's saying in just a second.
But I like in this...
This photo is from a post where I'm wearing a Budweiser button-up shirt that Ani got me as well.
And it's like kind of faded looking.
So the reds and the blues from the Budweiser cans...
The Budweiser logo looks more like blue and pink a little bit.
So I call that my Trans Pride Budweiser shirt.
And it was like Pride Month when this was happening.
And so this post is from a post that says Trans Pride Budweiser shirt.
Shout out to all my queer buds.
This bud's for you.
And he didn't quote that part.
He cut that part out of it, which is odd.
He could have called me trans and stuff.
But I don't know.
Maybe he missed it.
He's too mad.
Also, the idea that I'm mad at him.
No, we're all laughing at you.
You have thousands and thousands of people laughing at how stupid and scared and hateful you are.
I think that might be why you're reacting this way.
But I realize the reason he calls me Will Stancil is because these are people who made it their identity to harass that Will Stancil out of existence.
To try and send him so many rape and death threats.
That he would log off forever or get embarrassed or whatever.
So this is like his way of saying, hey, we got to rape this guy now.
Now, excuse me, there's going to be some mention of the R word in this episode.
Sorry, I should have done a content warning a little ahead of time.
They're obsessed with this.
They're obsessed with rape.
They're obsessed with humiliation.
I think that maybe is one reason why calling them pathetic hit so hard as per Grok.
So here's some...
Here's some responses.
Doug Dix replies to my photo.
It says, forward hair swoop to cover up the bad receding hairline at 35. And Punished Nixon replies, oof, I do that too.
A thing that you're not doing?
I do do that.
I do do that.
Listen.
Alexander won't see your comments about a receding hairline, but your white nationalist friends will.
Yeah.
Just catching, just fucking firing into their own crowd.
You love it.
Awesome.
Awesome.
This one, West Bestern says, he appears to be a shit-lib hipster with tiny feet.
Parentheses, other pics.
You have gigantic feet.
You have huge I laughed so hard when Alex told me this.
You have a problem buying shoes.
Yeah, we get a special magazine fucking mailed to our house from the wide shoe store.
Every dunk is just like a blatant opposite miss.
It's so good.
This is my, again, just one of my favorite comments.
He appears to be a shitlib hipster with tiny feet, parentheses, other pics.
What other pics?
What have I posted?
Am I on Raid My Foot?
What's going on?
Oh, man.
Dude, what if there's like a size 8 out there claiming to be your foot on Rate My Foot?
Blasphemy!
Almost as bad as calling me Will Stancil.
That's awful, yeah.
I mean, I think we gotta get litigation involved in that one.
We gotta sue someone for that.
See, this is why you don't engage with them.
Because if I had engaged and said, actually, I wear a size 15 extra wide, I would have looked like a loser.
I would have looked like a loser who was either lying or...
Buying in.
But that's why I bring my best friend and my wife on the show.
Unfortunately, that does sound like you're overcompensating with a fake size.
So I wouldn't believe you either.
No, it sucks.
My feet are still growing.
It's not funny.
He's not having a good time.
He had to sell all of his sneakers.
They didn't like my tattoo.
You can kind of see a couple of my tattoos.
And Punished Slime replies, I saw this book on Reddit.
There's so many cool designs in it.
Give me the one on page 7. And it's like a screenshot of a vintage tattoo flash collection book, like picture book or whatever.
It's like, yeah, that's one way people source tattoos is looking at classic tattoos.
Holden replies, ugh.
Ugh.
Also, look at your tattoos.
Look at your tattoos.
Go for it.
I fucking love when dumb Nazis on the internet suddenly become tattoo experts.
Well, listen, I don't have any tattoos.
But if I did, I wouldn't get one of a four-eyed wolf or a naked broad sitting in a question mark like it was a swing set.
We've all seen a million of those before.
Instead, I would get Michelangelo's David tattooed all the way down my arm.
Hyperrealistic.
They're trying to make fun of flash tattoos and it's like...
Okay, yeah, flash is a style, like there's, you know, traditional, neo-traditional, like all that.
Flash is a type of tattoo, but it's just a way of saying a tattoo that's not like a full sleeve or a Japanese back piece or, yeah, like some Roman statue fucking $10,000 Instagram art tattoo.
Like, that's all there is.
Those are the only kinds of tattoos there are.
Traditional flash tattoos are fine.
Go get them.
It's cool.
Don't worry about it.
Both of those tattoos were artist originals.
I was like, I like that.
Let me do that.
I love it.
Again, trying to critique a culture that you're not even part of.
It's fine to not be into this stuff, but just the pretension and the phoniness is wild.
Right here, speaking of phoniness, they found out Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Deoscarides says, plus he's drinking the non-alcoholic Budweiser.
This fucking loser.
He's lying!
He's being dishonest by wearing the Budweiser shirt.
Not even drinking the real beer.
Holden says, just pounding some NAs with my beer shirt on.
That's right, baby.
Yeah, dog.
Yeah.
I get, yeah.
You got me.
4K. They're actually bigging you up.
They actually think it's cool that you did that.
Some guy came into the bar last night wearing the straight edge watch watch.
Hell yeah.
And I was like, do I got to have you on edge watch, brother?
And he said to my face, he said, shoot till death.
And I was like, hell yeah, go have fun.
Fuck yeah.
I didn't follow up.
I don't know if he was drinking or not.
I should have.
I thought you were going to say, he said, beer doesn't count.
Yeah, beer doesn't count.
It's three X's because that's on the side of the jug that you can't drink.
Beer with the bros?
Doesn't count.
So even this weird coterie of online Nazi stalkers, they still have OnlyFans girls who orbit them and try to sell them nudes and get their subscriptions and stuff?
I learned.
Because this person...
Lily007 says, Will Stancil is way hotter than this guy.
Come on now.
And then one of the Will Stancil stalking accounts that's called Will Stancil's left eye freckle replies to her and says, you will be skinned like a potato soon.
What the fuck?
What?
See, it's like shock.
It's all shock.
But it's good.
I don't know.
That's kind of funny.
If you weren't, I don't know.
It's funny because he doesn't realize that it sounds like a drill tweet.
They just accidentally make drill tweets.
They're trying to be scary.
Also, he's big in Will Stansel.
She's big in Will Stansel up there.
Which, I mean, not to do, but I mean, it's a lie.
That's not true.
Oh, that's alright.
That's not true.
Go on.
I'll say it for you.
That's not true.
And this is not really like a compliment to you as much as it is an assessment of him.
Thank you.
I just wanted to clarify that.
So this guy, one of the super racists that was constantly in my replies, Vanilla Gorilla, Uh, says he can't name one successful black rock band though.
Um, and like, of course, of course I can.
Uh, what about 25 to life?
Right?
That guy's black, isn't he?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
He totally, he totally thinks he is.
I mean, you should get a pass if he's not, he should become honorary at least.
Um, no, like in, in this.
I don't know.
The bands that these guys are citing were not, quote, white bands.
These are mixed race or multi-ethnic band.
I don't have to do any of this.
We don't have to sit off and list...
Has there ever been a good black musician, Tony?
What are you even talking about, man?
Black people do music?
Is that possible?
What's funny, though, is I encountered the opposite of this with a quite popular new metal poster.
We were talking and he went on to talk about how new metal was the most important thing to happen to race relations in America.
Hell yeah.
So one thing the elites truly fear is rap rock.
And I just had to be looking like, okay, so from this moment on, I hate you.
So just for the record.
Were you like Jonathan Davis?
Is that you?
Yeah, but I did tell him about how I did grow up thinking that Jonathan Davis was mixed.
I did tell myself he was mixed to make myself feel better about liking corn and his dreadlocks.
I did convince myself thoroughly that Jonathan Davis was mixed.
I don't know.
Fieldy's got to be something, right?
I think Fieldy's Mexican.
I think...
Pretty positive.
I think some of them are Armenian or whatever.
That's a different band.
That's System of Down.
System of Down as well.
They're maybe Hungarian or something.
I don't know.
They're from fucking Bakersfield, bro.
They're like a whole different type of white that doesn't even count.
They're fine.
What they are is fine.
They're just not what I told myself they were to make myself feel better about loving them so much.
Yeah, but there's plenty of black dudes in nu metal and regular metal.
There's plenty of good black musicians, but doided, doidled, tell you it's Seamer, I don't know, replies, does Seven Dust count?
The singer's black and the shrugging girl emotion.
Yeah, Seven Dust might count as being black because the singer's fucking black.
And if you're talking about this genre and this era, yes, they count.
They're a new metal band with a black singer and Vanilla Gorilla says, I said successful dot dot.
Never even heard of that.
And then Doidled says, you've never heard of Seven Dust?
You should check them out.
They're pretty good.
But that's the only one I know about, so I'm not trying to be that person here, I swear.
Oh my god, these people.
This is a sweetheart, kind of.
They're pretty good.
Just check them out.
If you like Papa Roach, you might like Seven Dust.
No, this is a guy who's in their circle.
This is a guy who is a white nationalist who is an online right-wing freak asking for permission to like Seven Dust.
Asking for permission and also being like, sorry, that's the one.
I'm sorry I'm not trying to be anti-racist.
I swear.
I still hate him.
I'm just asking questions.
And it goes on.
Vanilla says, I'll Google them.
Doidle says, here's my fave by them.
We lost our son, and this song always makes me think of him.
That whole album is actually good.
The first song is also great.
Parentheses.
Forget the name, though.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
This band I'm asking permission to like, they actually mean a lot to me.
From a guy who was posting the N-word over and over and over and over again so that people would see him posting the N-word.
Amazing.
It's okay if I like this band though?
I mean, I'll take it out of the playlist if it's not cool.
I don't really care.
I mean, he's dead.
He doesn't know I can't enjoy the song anymore.
Oh, this is another thing.
A lot of people were saying that that guy, Perry, couldn't be a white nationalist because he's Greek.
And they were like, he's not Greek, he's white.
And I think they were making a joke that white people don't count as Greek or whatever.
And it's like, that's kind of what I'm talking about with whiteness being fake.
Because throughout this, I was like, whiteness is fake anyway.
None of this shit matters.
It makes sense.
Do you mean he couldn't be white because he's Greek?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Sorry, I don't know what I said.
You said the opposite, because that would have been something else they might have said.
Maybe they're really proud of being Greek, and they're like, we're not going to let fake Greeks into our ranks.
I respect that.
They think the phrase white nationalist means that it's somebody who's white.
Yeah, no, unfortunately.
That's like what level they're operating at on a lot of these.
Bob says he's mad he can't make any white friends.
Parentheses.
They don't trust him.
What?
Hey, listen.
None of the white nationalists I know trust this guy.
Awesome.
Cool.
I'm doing something right.
You can't make friends.
As a white person, you can't make friends with me because I will turn you into those Chinese-American police departments they have.
Where they'll rendition you to a red-black site.
Yeah, you'll be shipped off.
Either them or one of the insular Hasidic communities that have their own police force.
I'm going to contact the authorities.
Any white friend who steps out of line, you're right not to trust me.
Yeah.
This guy was all over the place.
Uh, this guy was one of the weirdos who was being extremely weird and violent and graphic and schizo.
I'm so schizo.
I'm saying so many crazy things.
Uh, and somebody was like, why are you like this?
Like, like, why are you such a bad, awful person?
And he was, he literally did the, I'm a dark mirror that reflects liberalism online.
You created me.
I'm pretty sure I don't want, I'm pretty sure I didn't do that.
Pretty sure I don't want you to act like this, man.
He said, Because part of what I was talking about with these guys fantasizing about the 90s, about literal...
Wrist-cutting music.
Music about being upset and sad and dissatisfied.
One of the many genres, in fact, that came out of the 90s, all about being depressed and miserable.
There's multiple genres just about that.
His argument was, you never actually heard about that.
You never actually heard about that in the 90s or 2000s.
What does that even mean, dummy?
Do you ever look at stats showing the drop-off in happiness and suicide rates rising since the advent of the iPhone slash social media?
So these guys are like, I think, a new age of Nazism, like a new, younger type of right-wing Nazism critiquing us as millennials for being cringe and being, you know, Bernie bros, but they're critiquing us from the fascist right or whatever.
It's happening, but they still can't help but blame phone.
It's still just phone bad.
And like, yes, phone is bad.
Do you know who owns the phone?
Do you know who makes the phone?
Do you know who profits off the fucking phone?
Like, it's not...
I think his argument was that people are mean online, and that's why things are bad, because gamers got made fun of...
For wanting to fuck Laura Croft online.
And that's why things are the way they are or whatever.
Which is about the level of critical analysis that you would expect from the previous generation of right-wing people.
You know what I mean?
It's nothing new or novel to me.
It's just got this veneer of 4chan shock value over it.
Which is also not new to me.
So none of it is effective to me.
And somebody was like, Hey, half the bands of that time were all about social alienation and how capitalism kind of sucks.
Rage against the machine and green day, for example, are both from that era.
What the fuck are you smoking?
Steam puke replied.
Bands like those are part of the set of toppling dominoes that led to things sucking even more horribly nowadays than they did 15, 20 to 30 some years ago.
So what's, So Green Day isn't valid for expressing the discontent or the ennui or whatever you want to call it of the 90s, but they are responsible as a band for making it worse.
This is great.
This is such beautiful lines of thinking.
I can't believe it.
Well, because they manifested it, you know, because that stuff wasn't real.
There was no machine to rage against until they fabricated it and sung about this fake thing.
And then it was a self-fulfilling prophecy after that.
They were living in such comfort they had to make up things.
These are younger people and I don't mind engaging with them.
I'm not saying most of the engagement other people will do for you.
If people are being awful enough, other people will just step up and pipe up, which is good.
But occasionally, like I said, I felt like there was maybe a larger point to make for other people who might be following along or whatever.
So I said all the things in the 90s that people were upset about.
They were upset about free trade.
They were upset about apartheid.
They were upset about plenty of the welfare reform.
The Clintons triangulating and making the Democratic Party more right-wing.
NAFTA happened.
I think I already said that.
But these are...
All things that were actually happening.
Race riots, obviously.
The militarization of the police started in the fucking 90s.
These are all things that people have been talking about for a very long time.
And maybe they don't know that because they're younger and because they're getting all their information from freaking TikTok or whatever.
But really, maybe there's other people who don't know that things actually were bad in the 90s.
They're just worse now.
That doesn't mean the 90s were good.
One of them quote tweeted me and said, NAFTA, huh?
Wish there were a presidential candidate who wanted to do something about that.
And they were implying that it was Trump.
And it was like, oh, you mean just like renaming NAFTA after himself?
The same exact fucking trade agreement?
A sick rebrand.
And so one of the little pieces of engagement I chose to do was when he was like, oh, I wonder if there were a president who'd want to address that.
I replied, Burmy Sanders.
I wanted to do that.
And they got really mad at that.
And so then they started showing photos of Bernie getting shouted down at the rally by the official Black Lives Matter ladies.
Do you remember when this happened, Tony?
We covered this on the show.
Pretty awful.
They were like, oh, this Bernie Sanders?
And I was like, yep, that's him.
Yep, that's the guy.
And this person replied to me by quoting their own tweet where I guess they had replied to me, but I didn't see it because I wasn't looking.
Where they asked me, if race is just a social construct, can I become a black man if I inject melanin into my body?
And they said, well.
And I said, yeah, you should do it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I will believe.
If you do that, I will totally tell you you're a black person.
Yeah, do it, please.
I want you to document your injection process and everything, though.
And they were like, when I said yes, do it, they were like, another passive-aggressive millennial.
What?
We're on the internet.
It's the only way to be.
You can only be passive-aggressive.
Sorry.
You should have been more specific and violent.
They're just desperate.
They're just desperate and bad and they suck and everything sucks and they're choosing the worst way to respond to everything.
That was another one of these arguments.
How come you can make fun of MAGA or whatever even though they're just responding to Some people choose to respond in a way that doesn't further alienate themselves from other people.
Other people choose to respond by trying to increase the alienation and cutting more people out of society and cutting more people out of their own lives.
Obviously, I'm going to think one is better than the other.
It doesn't mean that I don't know why it's happening or that I'm not putting the blame on individual people with bad feelings or with bad thoughts or whatever.
But you can choose how to respond to these and you have to make that choice.
It's hard to choose to do the better thing.
We should create a society that doesn't make the choice to do the better thing so difficult to make.
But you still can make it.
You can still choose to be a human being.
I'm going to push back a little bit because you say you were trying to take the smart route, but you could have ended this a long time ago by just replying with sublime.
If you would have just put sublime in the conversation so long ago, everything would have fallen apart for them.
We had so much social harmony back in the day.
I mean, look at Sublime.
They had just a bunch of fun songs about good stuff.
Exactly.
A bunch of songs about how good the 90s were.
How nice everything was.
One as Iris melting through the rain, pelting the glass.
And no more Maria.
so one of the pieces in this thread I did was I had seen another guy went viral for saying there's no good bands anymore, even though YouTube has let modern guitar players learn how to play guitar really well and do good covers.
There's no good rock bands anymore, but I know this guy is like...
He's a libertarian, you know?
So I know this guy's like a fat...
He's Clint Russell at Liberty Lockpot.
So he's like some podcast, you know, that gets like fucking CIA funding probably or whatever.
Some libertarian podcast.
And it's just like...
This is why the right wing does love...
Capitalism and nostalgia is because they would have no access to culture.
They would have no access to this beautiful music if it wasn't spoon-fed to them by a corporation.
That sounds like a really holier-than-thou take or whatever, but yes, my whole life I've had to search for good music.
It sucks, but you have to actually go to a show.
You have to actually join a message board for that genre of music.
You have to actually...
Cultivate and participate in a scene, in a real life scene.
And that is kind of, I guess, work, maybe, but it's a lot of fun if you're passionate about those things and not just trying to monetize it or not just trying to grift off of the idea of it.
You have to actually participate and look for these things.
And so I said, yeah, they need Viacom and Clear Channel feeding them their tastes or else they'd do the Holocaust.
The fucking rattling in their skulls and the ringing in their ears from the silence of not having Bon Jovi to listen to makes them commit genocide.
And Ed says, we don't need feed for that, cuck.
Meaning, we don't need feed to do the Holocaust.
It's happening.
I didn't deliver that very well.
That is what Ed was getting at.
Listen, I don't need any excuse to do genocide.
I'm ready 24-7.
It's on site.
If I see any races when I go outside, oh, you better fucking believe it.
God.
Fuck.
Yeah, so...
Fuck that.
So, one thing you gotta know when you get piled on by people like this is they like to put you on lists, which is something I forgot existed on Twitter, but you can, like, create...
Specific feeds of people you follow or specific accounts where you can be like, sports!
When you want your sports news, you click on your sports list and it's a separate feed of just sports.
They do this for slurs.
Jesus Christ.
I can't read the list.
I got added to 20 lists.
This one is just the F slur.
It has 131 people on it.
This one is Raped F Slurs.
21. This one, we can cut this if you want, Tony.
I read it wrong the first time, and I can't believe that's what it says.
This is maybe my favorite list that I got added to.
My Blackest Slaves.
Yeah.
Actually, you can consider yourself a black man when you're added to the list of my blackest slaves.
We made a baby.
We're going to have to inject the melanin.
Oh, that's all you...
Okay, fuck it.
I'll go back and tell that other guy.
Yeah.
Communist garbage.
Another one I got added to.
This might be my second favorite, though.
Yohanamites?
I got added to a list called Yohanamites, and I had to look up what that means, and it means Muslims who have committed major transgressions.
Yep, yep.
That's you.
So it's like, I don't know, I get, like, I don't even know if this person was trying to be funny.
Like, it was kind of like a normie, like, Jewish account that didn't like me for something I said about Israel or Palestine or whatever.
But, like, it's funny.
I don't know.
Like, I get the entertainment to a certain degree to call me to just a Muslim who's considered a serious, who's committed a serious transgression.
Ah, it's great.
Yeah, effing rslurs, low IQ bug people.
Oh, that's my favorite one.
Low IQ bug people?
Yeah.
You should make like a challenge coin or something that has that on it.
There's nothing wrong with bug people, but bug people are a necessary piece of the ecosystem.
They eat decaying matter.
They turn into butterflies sometimes.
Some of these groups have like 50 members and some of them have like 2,000 members.
So they're not members.
Those are like targets.
I just want to clarify.
on the list because it's very important to note that like each of these lists even though it's like it is targeted harassment and it is like something you don't want to be on the actual followers of these lists are like one or two people the person who made the list and maybe one other member of their little group or whatever like when you go to um when you click through to the list like when i clicked to my through to my blackest slaves.
The description was my blackest, most buckbroken slaves.
And this at is Zog That's what they're...
ZogSlave's S5 or whatever.
And I'm just...
I'm in there with Brian Krasenstein.
Amazing.
But yeah, it's just one follower for these accounts.
Like, the anti-white group has one follower who's the creator, who's Virtuous Mang.
And the cover photo for the list is, You hate white people!
In all gaps.
I was going to talk to you about that, actually.
Yeah.
The low IQ bug people description is you're literally shaking right now, observing you odious mongoloids like fruit flies for science.
Amazing.
Yeah, it's got one follower.
So yeah, I normally don't block these people because I don't really have much to lose from them.
But when they put me on a list, that's when I block them.
So the only way to get off these lists is by blocking.
The person who created it.
So I did unfortunately have to block some people.
Yeah, another one of my one of the lists that I'm on was terrorist fans.
So just really good stuff.
And I reported all the slurs lists.
I wonder if they still exist or not.
I don't like that you're under cult members.
That should be cult leaders.
Right.
It's close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't know.
That was a fun time getting all sorts of wacky messages from these people.
Yeah, I don't know.
Real paper tigers.
Really, unless you can get fired from your job or they can find your address somehow.
These people would send a SWAT team to your house if they could find your address.
I don't think many of them are actual hackers, though.
I think they're just, again, like...
Some of the biggest malcontents the world has ever seen.
These are like school shooters who just haven't worked up the courage to do it yet.
So obviously very bad people, but incredibly pathetic.
It's just depressing.
Absolutely.
It is pathetic.
Anyway, that was fun.
Thank you.
So, wow, good news, everybody.
The government is going to stay open.
We may have our differences between the Democrats and the Republicans.
We may have our differences with Elon Musk and Trump, but we can all agree we still want them to be doing what they're doing with the government, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if you're going to close, I want you to at least have a closeout sale that I can take part in.
And if I can't get that, then don't close.
Stay open.
Chuck Schumer just made the bold decision to pass the continuing resolution allowing Trump and Elon Musk to continue dismantling the federal government because he was worried about using a government shutdown as leverage to extract concessions from An administration that's, like, seemingly doing just illegal and unconstitutional shit.
All the time.
And it's just, you know, I sympathize with, I guess, the argument that, well, if you shut down the government, Trump will take that excuse to just fire everybody or something like that, or those people will be out of work because they'll...
Because they'll be shut down and so they'll be losing money.
They just won't start it back up because that's not efficient.
And I don't know.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying.
Maybe this is reductive.
I don't know.
If a bunch of government workers decided that it was in their interest to shut the government down, that kind of sounds like a strike to me.
It kind of sounds like a labor action.
I know it's not specifically like a union that votes to strike.
Has a strike fund in place or whatever, especially because the federal government isn't allowed to strike.
Those workers are legally not allowed to strike.
And maybe this is something we'll talk about more as we get into responses here.
I think what it is, is the Democrats want to avoid having, Democratic leadership at least, wants to avoid calling for an all-out showdown.
Between people and the forces of billionaires and the oligarchic people, for one thing, because the Democrats are funded by those forces.
It's not going to turn out well if our side wins.
It's not going to turn out well for the people in Congress who exist because of AIPAC and who exist because of whatever military-industrial complex donations.
So I don't think that's in their interest.
I think they're going to do what was obvious, or they want to do what was obvious, which is hold out until election time, and then they can point to all the bad stuff that they let happen and say, see, this is why you need us.
Yeah, exactly.
However, I don't think it's going to work very well.
It's already showing massive blowback.
From some of Democrats' strongest soldiers, like Charlotte Clymer, who's been one of the biggest boosters online for the Biden administration and for Democratic imperialism and neoliberalism that I've ever seen.
Charlotte Clymer, who has, again, a Ukraine emoji in her handle, says, I'll be supporting a primary challenge against Chuck Schumer.
Time for him to go.
And then she quote tweets herself and says that at this point, I think there needs to be a boycott of donations to all Senate Democrats until they force Chuck Schumer to step down as leader.
Enough is enough.
This was somebody who was brought to the White House, I'm pretty sure.
This is somebody who was like advising the White House.
Neera Tanden.
You all familiar with fucking Neera Tanden?
Yep.
Quote tweets news about Senator Schumer saying his decision to fold on the House stopgap doesn't mean Dems have no leverage in fiscal 2026. He believes Trump will be unpopular by then.
And then maybe they can do something.
Neera Tanden quote tweeted and said, He's popular now!
Lord!
And somebody was like, classic Neera Tanden, always punching at establishment Democrats.
And Neera Tanden herself was like, do you know who I am?
I fucking hate progressives!
I fucking hate Bernie Sanders!
Yeah, yeah, he is unpopular now.
It's funny because, you know, I get what they're saying.
It's not working.
The strategy is happening real fast for them.
Will Stansel.
Will Stansel.
Shows the articles about Democrats' response and says, never forget this.
They are liars.
Their resistance is fake.
They want to be powerless so they can reap the rewards of pretending to fight back while risking nothing and attempting nothing.
They are the reason the country is where it is.
Primary everyone.
Amen, brother.
It's sad to see a once-noble figure now getting all of his news from TikTok, it sounds like.
Yeah.
Listen, buddy.
Why don't you watch a little program called Rachel Maddow?
She dives a little deeper than your average minute-long video on your social media app, okay?
So funny.
Dude, this is exactly the shit that everybody was yelling at you when you were like, actually, the stock market shows that the economy is great.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
It's been obvious for some time that the Democrats do not want to win on the terms that the Democratic base wants.
No.
Democrats might want to win, but they don't want to have to do anything.
Their interests are not our interests.
They're very vested in the whole lesser evil mentality.
That's what works for them.
Brooklyn Dad!
Defiance against Democrats?
I forgot about him.
Literally on the payroll of the Democratic Party at one point.
Republicans cut Democrats entirely out of their process for the continuing resolution.
Didn't want any of our input.
He still considers himself and would have been blamed by a majority of the American public for a government shutdown.
There was no reason for them to cave.
Chuck Schumer has to go.
Hell yeah.
Beautiful.
Finally.
Finally defiant.
It's happening.
Robert Reich, like noted progressive economist, who does criticize Democrats for not being progressive enough or whatever, posted this on Facebook in the word art, very good communicative format.
Senate Democratic leadership essentially played dead today and greenlit the Trump-Musk-Vance coup.
What is the point of the Democratic Party if it doesn't actually act like an opposition party?
Hello?
It says 146,000 likes on Facebook.
Hell yeah.
Robert Reich is like as normie Democratic voter as you can fucking get.
We've been waiting for this to happen.
This was probably always going to happen with the Democratic Party as it's currently constituted.
We've just been begging people to notice that it is happening.
Please.
These are the comments in that Robert Reich post.
Lisa says the American people protesting are showing more backbone than the Democrats.
They better figure out how to get loud and fight or they will be as complicit as the Republicans when we lose our democracy to that dictator.
9.8 thousand likes.
Linda says Schumer must go.
He knuckled.
500 likes.
Jane says I have lost all confidence in our Democratic leaders.
This was devastating.
1.5 thousand likes.
Chris says, exactly.
I am now unaffiliated after being a lifelong Democrat.
Femi says, that's why I will never donate a penny to them.
They have become useless and predictable to the heartless GOP. 1.5 thousand likes.
Janet says, I think us US everyday citizens have more guts than the wimps we put in office.
1 thousand likes.
This is close.
This is, you know, as we've said before, they're not cowards.
They just get paid to do something else.
They get paid to do something different.
I don't mind calling them cowards or whatever as long as we know the actual thing that's happening.
The motivation for the cowardness.
Melinda says they're all funded by the same big corporations.
I expect nothing else.
1.2 thousand likes.
Awesome.
Patrick says, dude, a binary political system has no opposition.
Truly, that country is owned by corporations.
Period.
Yep.
Kurt says, last straw for me, Schumer needs to get the hell out of the way and let someone with a spine represent the party.
I can't wait until the audio leak, when Schumer's office tries to leak, like, tries to do a sympathetic leak of audio of boomers calling into his office and threatening to slit his throat.
Yeah.
I can't wait until he's like, we need to turn the temperature down, and it's like some 75-year-old woman threatening to give him a wedgie so hard it splits him in half.
Yeah.
We can't seem to the level.
Look what we're doing.
Yeah, a couple more.
Ken Levy says, this guy had a different opinion.
Ken says, we need to stay in the middle.
We need the moderates.
We will lose over and over again being far, far left.
I am sorry, we just will.
Let the fuck up, Ken.
And then Susanna replies, don't get me started.
If you haven't lived it, you have no right to comment.
People used to say the same thing about interracial marriages.
Yeah.
Get on her.
Get out, brother.
Get him, Susanna.
I don't even really know what people used to say.
We need the middle opinion on interracial marriage.
I don't know.
It's funny.
I just like the lib boomer stuff to be like, you're probably fucking anti-miscegenation, you piece of shit.
Yeah, I think it's good.
I think she's saying at one point in time, that was considered far, far left.
And so maybe let's get on to what you're calling the quote far, far left, which never really is that.
Chuck Schumer put out a video defending himself on TikTok or whatever.
And 3,000 likes, 7,000 comments.
And the caption is, Trump, Musk, and Doge would use the power of a shutdown to shift into overdrive.
And the courts, one of our best places to fight these autocrats, could quickly run out of money.
We can't let this happen.
So that's the excuse, is that it would be even worse if the government shut down or whatever.
How do you hear that and not hear anything besides, our system is broken?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So this is in...
Yeah, these are the comments on that video.
Jan says, you should be ashamed of yourself along with the other nine that voted to continue this farce.
I will not believe anything you say going forward as you've betrayed the American people and let us down.
Disgraceful and disgusting.
Hope you can sleep at night and look at yourself in the mirror.
Hell yeah.
Jennifer says, you can't scream that the Republicans are destroying America and then vote with them.
Traitor.
And then Michael says, Senator Chuck Schumer, Minority Leader, U.S. Senate, P.O. Box 97391, Washington, D.C., 2007-9760.
And that is the liberal way of doxing somebody.
That is the liberal equivalent of doxing somebody if you give out their public P.O. Box.
Send him a postcard.
Bury him in postcards.
I do want to stress that that is a PO box.
That is just a place where a lot of working people would just be around.
That is just a PO box.
It's not his home address.
I'm sure you can find that if you really wanted to send him something via UPS. We're going to swat him with handwritten letters expressing our concern for the public.
Yeah, Mike, you betrayed the American people, Chuck.
We wanted a fighter, not a coward.
1.1000.
Just so funny.
None of us believe or trust a word you say.
These are mostly women, too.
These are like three-quarters women just fucking raging on this asshole.
Hell yeah.
About fucking time.
So good.
So this is a post in one of my Democrat Facebook groups, Team Blue United.
And this is from somebody named Miriam, who has a Ukrainian flag emoji avatar.
A plan was in place and the Senate Democrats caved.
They basically told the Republicans, you can do whatever the hell you want and we'll just bend over for you.
For the record, we've gone through this before.
The government has shut down before and somehow we all survived.
But we won't survive this.
The Democrats just handed the keys of the government over to Nazis and fascists and white supremacists.
God help us all.
And she shared an infographic of all the Democratic senators who caved to Donald Trump and the GOP. Senator Mastro, Senator Gillibrand, who's definitely got presidential ambitions.
Yep.
Not anymore.
Senator Chuck Schumer, right there in the middle.
Dick Durbin, Maggie Hassan, John Fetterman.
There we go.
Bucking ogre.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, it's good stuff, man.
Here's the comments on the Team Blue United.
Kathy says, shame on you!
Kathy has like, Pink heart avatar.
This is like the opposite of seeing a sunset emoji use a racial slur.
Seeing an older lady with a nice patterned fabric as her avatar screaming at Chuck Schumer, shame on you.
Mark says, vote every one of them out.
Strip them as much as possible.
Keep these snakes in the dark.
And now I will say, Mark, snake is gendered language.
And we don't want to imply that Chuck Schumer is a woman or a bitch or whatever.
So let's watch the language.
Okay, here.
Let's relax.
Jackie says, traitors, every one of them.
Debbie Kessler says, Yeah, okay, so this is a defense.
She's saying it's the lesser of two evils, but if we don't make a choice, we lose everything.
Okay, I'm going to address that in just a second.
Mark says, Schumer is another Moscow Mitch.
Time to send these dinosaurs packing.
Yeah, get him out of here.
Love that.
Okay, so here's, I'll give like an argument.
Again, we kind of already addressed this, but Claudia says, I was very upset until I learned how shutting down would give Trump even more.
No, it's now enshrined in the legislation, apparently, that he does have these powers.
So I don't think it would have given him more legal powers.
It might have given him more of an opportunity to try and do stuff that he wanted to do, but it didn't set in stone anything.
That seems to be what this continuing resolution did.
It would give Trump even more executive powers, such as furloughing indefinitely entire departments of government with no judicial oversight.
The judicial branch is the only thing saving us right now.
Oh, good!
Thank God.
Thank God we have the judicial branch.
Famously one of the more just branches of government.
Thank God we've got the Supreme Court on our side, Claudia.
I think it all stinks, but perhaps this was the lesser of two bad choices on this one.
We don't have the judicial branch.
We don't have them.
They're gone.
They've been bought by the Heritage Foundation and various other wealthy psychopaths whose goal is to do what Trump and Elon are doing.
The only option is to mobilize massive groundswells of people to physically occupy buildings.
Physically stop this from happening.
It puts so much pressure on their elected officials in their various states that they will be afraid to do this stuff.
I'm not exaggerating.
That is the only way we can do this.
And like the point that I made earlier, Chuck Schumer does not want to unleash those forces.
Align with the other side.
He does not want to tap into the only thing that can save us because it won't save him.
He will be on the opposite side of that equation.
And that's why he's showing himself to be.
He knows it's getting down to game time.
And he's got to make some tough choices that make him look bad and heighten the contradictions for everybody.
Show everybody what we're actually working with.
He wouldn't reveal his hand like this unless he was being forced to.
And the pressure is mounting for everybody to do what they have to do to maintain their class position or act upon it.
You can argue that the courts are our only recourse left.
Yeah, they're the only legal recourse left.
Maybe.
There's other things you can do.
But I wouldn't count on the courts.
We gave up the courts.
When they agreed to Citizens United, It was done.
It was gone.
Sorry.
You don't get that kind of government anymore unless we do something big.
And even when things do happen with them, they don't happen fast.
It takes a long time.
True.
Tim says Schumer ruined the Democratic Party long ago.
He only cares about his bank account.
Cheryl says Fetterman won't get my vote.
Dar says they always fail the people.
Roy says, we need the people to take over no matter what.
Yeah, dog.
Let's go.
Donna says, glad that neither of our Washington senators caved in.
And Deanna says, not buying into their excuse, dot, dot, dot.
Massive amounts of discontent and dissatisfaction in the Democratic base.
And we need to capitalize on this as just people.
You don't even have to be a fucking organizer.
You don't even have to be like...
Have experience doing this stuff.
Just help people along this process.
Honestly, don't be an asshole.
Don't be, I told you so about this shit because you'll queer the deal.
Okay?
If things are happening right now that we can capitalize on, that we can push on, we just, you got to help it along.
And, I mean...
The people in power, the ruling class, are doing their own thing to help it along as well.
So like I talk about with union organizing stuff, like I talk about with workplace stuff, we just have to keep pushing people in the right direction, helping them observe these contradictions and helping them come to the conclusions that we might have come to a few years ago.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
No told yourselves.
Just welcome to the party.
Here you go.
Here's some more stuff you might be interested in.
Yeah, so stuff's happening.
If bad stuff's happening, hopefully we can make some good stuff happen too.
And we talk about some of that stuff on this week's Patreon episode that'll be coming out this Friday.
We had Jacob from the Valley Labor Report, who is a public sector worker, who is a federal worker, a member of a public sector union.
We had him on to discuss...
Public sector unions versus private unions and the disdain that a lot of private sector union workers seem to have for public sector union workers.
And we talked about sort of the arguments against public sector unions and whether we agreed with them.
And we talked about the privatization of the federal government of these agencies and whether private corporations profiting off of things like the post office, We'll be good for anybody else who isn't a corporation.
That was a really great discussion.
I think I'm going to leave a long clip along the first 20 minutes or so of that episode.
We'll be free for everybody to listen to because we talked about Trump disbanding the TSA union, canceling their collective bargaining agreement.
Very important news to be happening.
We talked about that in the first 20-25 minutes.
So I think I'm going to make that available to everybody.
And then the spicy comments, the juicy stuff, including some workplace, some trouble I got in, some good trouble I made in some of the UPS Facebook groups with some very enlightening responses.
That stuff will be behind the Patreon paywall, which you can access by going to patreon.com slash minion death cold PA tart.
P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash minion death cult.
Five bucks a month gets you access to all those bonus episodes, the whole catalog, the whole shebang, right in your podcast app or browser.
It's a ton of good stuff.
Thank you so much to Ani for joining us today.
Thanks for having me.
We love an Ani-sode.
And we are sending all the merch to the printer this week, so we'll have more updates for you when those are done and we're ready to ship them out.
Thank you to everybody who bought stuff.
We're excited we were able to make a sweatshirt and some other stuff too.
So thanks for supporting the show in that way and go to patreon.com slash meaning death cult to support us in that way and we'll talk to you again soon.
