#670 If there was no social media, you would be my concubines.
TODAY: We check out the right-wing reaction to Trump's win which is unfortunately hyper-fixated on assault, and ponder the hetero-flexibility that occurs in politically destabilized zones. PLUS: Trump voters' daddy issues are still on display, this time via the Man Shed facebook page AND: Staten Island Ferry workers' contract win + backpay enrages New York Post, commenters, twitter hashtag lawyers. Music: Purity Filter - Wisteria Awakens Artificial Brain - Graveyard of Lightless Planets Tony Williams - Fred
Hey everybody, just up top, I wanted to give a content warning.
This episode will contain discussions about sexual assault and the use of the R-word, not in graphic detail, but just as we discuss the right-wing response to the Donald Trump presidential win.
We're going to have to Talk about that a little bit.
Still a fun episode, I believe, and a fruitful discussion, but I did want to let you know that that would be some of the content of the discussion.
Thanks, everybody.
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And I'm Tony Boswell.
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What's up, everybody?
Welcome to the show.
I hope everybody's doing well.
I'm not.
I don't know.
I had a fairly traumatic experience last night at the blood incantation show.
Oh, no.
What?
Yeah, I'm okay.
I'll talk about it, though.
I'll be brave and talk about it.
Thank you.
No, the band was good.
I just had the misfortune of standing near the merch table to watch the show.
Have you ever had anything like this?
Anything bad happen from standing by the merch table?
This is a first for me.
No, but it sounds like there's potential for some antics, I'll say.
Yeah, so this was at the substation.
Listeners will be pleased to know that I did go into the right room.
To see Blood Incantation.
I was able to find where they were playing.
The only thing is, I think I kind of hate that venue.
The way it's shaped, like when you go into the room, you can't see the stage.
It's shaped like a weird shape.
It's the stage and then it kind of opens up.
After a certain point.
And so if you're standing along the wall towards the back, the corner is there.
You can't even see the stage.
So you all have to kind of file in to be right in front of the stage.
And it was already kind of full when I got there.
And so I just kind of towards the back, started walking across the back looking for a place to stand.
And there was kind of by the merch table, there was more room to stand.
I wasn't at the merch table.
And there was already a line for the Blood Incantation merch, which me standing by them, I heard, was an hour long.
People have been waiting in this line for like an hour since the doors opened, I'm assuming.
Was the merch that sick?
Yeah, Blood Incantation, they have some sick merch that is all available online.
Except for the poster, which was custom.
No tour exclusives.
No, I got an email saying that they had the tour shirts in the web store before I even saw them.
An hour-long wait, and then once or twice people would like...
Come up behind me and be like, are you waiting for the merch?
And I'm like, no, that's the line in front of me and it goes to the crowd.
And it's crowded.
There's a bunch of people standing around.
So this ended up happening several times through the night.
Somebody would tap me on the shoulder and be like, are you waiting in line for merch?
And I'm not even in front of the merch table.
I'm off to the side facing the stage.
And I would say, no, I'm not.
And they would be like, I just waited in this line for an hour.
And I'm like, what line?
There's no line.
If you would have asked me an hour ago, I would have told you there was no line here.
This happened like three times.
And the last person was like, oh, and like shoved their way past me.
To join their line with the other line, which was right in front of me.
Yeah.
And it was so gratifying to see then that person start arguing with the other line and fighting about who was in the right line.
And I was like, I told them they weren't in line.
They didn't believe me.
Honestly, bands need to either have worse merch or better lines, okay?
I just think it's wild that you would wait behind somebody for an hour without confirmation that you're in the right line.
That's a you problem.
I'm sorry.
Like, I get it.
The situation's fucked up.
You don't know where the line is.
You gotta ask around.
You gotta actually find out before you...
So there's these people that were waiting the whole show just in the wrong line.
That sucks.
That's so funny.
To buy like a purple tie-dye five-sided long sleeve.
Merch is not that important to me.
I like merch.
I like getting merch.
But I'm not waiting in line for that long.
No way.
That's like really annoying.
Yeah, if there's not an opportune moment to grab the merch, I'm not going to do it.
That sounds pretty traumatic.
But then you did get the satisfaction of watching them actually have confrontation with somebody worthy of having confrontation with.
That's kind of nice.
Yeah.
And I'm happy for them.
It seems like they're making a lot of money.
So, good for them.
I had a really annoying situation at a show this weekend.
I went to see Gouge Away and Initiate and Cold God.
I saw this guy from the bar I work at.
I see him enough that I had to say hi to him.
He was like, who are you?
I'm like, I see you twice a week at the bar.
Like, all the time.
I've met you 17 times.
Whatever.
And then he starts complaining about how the room...
He's like, everybody here are rich kids trying to act poor.
I'm like, I don't know about that, dude.
And then this white guy starts complaining to me.
He's like, there's no POC in here.
I'm like, well, I'm here.
Cole got open.
I can count at least 25 non-white people around me.
It should be more, Tony.
What's your problem?
It was so annoying.
You don't think there should be more POC in the crowd, huh?
This guy, what if he started calling you out in front of everybody?
This guy wants less POC in the crowd.
It was so annoying.
And then he got mad at me for not being like, yeah, brother.
And he turned around and with an earshot was like, this guy's not even that cool.
And I was like, what the fuck, dude?
And then I see him last night.
Did you introduce yourself by telling him you were cool?
That's what I did, yeah.
Because it kind of sets you up for a bit of failure later on, perhaps.
And then he comes in the bar last night and has no recollection of this, of course.
Sounds like an alcoholic, dude.
Yeah, I think so.
I think my man's got a problem.
He couldn't remember me.
He was like, I just don't remember people.
And he started crying.
Maybe he's got that disease where you just drink a lot of alcohol all the time.
I think that is what that is.
I think he's got the old ism, but alcohol this time.
I think, yeah, he's got that disease that makes you wake up in strange places without your clothes on.
Yeah, it was so annoying.
When I was getting petitions, when I was getting signatures for the petition to get my job back, one of the ladies that I've delivered to like 30 times, 30, 50, you know, times was just like, uh, who are you?
I was like, all right, never mind.
Goodbye.
That's not going to help.
That's not going to help.
That's kind of sad.
Yeah.
I was just like, okay.
And then after seeing her like two or three, after like delivering to her two or three more times, she was like, wait, you're the one who came in.
And I'm like, I'm the one who is here every day.
All the time.
All the time.
But yes.
She's like, oh, I'm so glad you got your job.
I was like, yeah, no thanks to you, lady.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm glad you appreciate me now.
Yeah, I kind of wish I would have lost my job just so you would have felt bad for not supporting me.
She's just trying to, you know, cash in on that post-hijab clout.
That what?
That post-hijab clout.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it was a keffiyeh, but...
Yeah, sorry.
That's all right.
Just a little racist, but that's okay.
Like a tiny bit, but I didn't mean to.
It was like an honest, you know, it was honest, accidental racism.
For sure.
No, well, no, and that's good.
I'm glad you acknowledged it.
We can move forward.
Um...
Okay, so last episode we talked about the Harris loss, the Democrats loss, their presidential strategy, and then the aftermath where we had Democratic operatives blaming everybody but themselves and the campaign they decided to run.
And so if you want to hear that, you can go over to patreon.com slash minion death cult sign up for five bucks a month and you'll hear that episode and many others.
But this episode today, I wanted to start off by talking about the conservative reaction to their election win.
You know, obviously, this is something we typically cover on the show is the right wing reaction.
So obviously, we need to take a look at what these freaks are doing.
The first thing I wanted to talk about in terms of conservative reaction to the Trump win isn't technically a reaction.
It happened before the race was called for Donald Trump, but I still think it's relevant.
Maybe you'll see why here.
This was probably the best tweet I've ever seen in my life.
It is...
One of the SEAL Team 6 members, one of the guys who claims to have killed Osama Bin Laden, threatening to turn a group of young Harris Walls voters, young men, into his sex slaves as punishment.
Yeah, it's so normal.
He quote tweeted the white boys for Harris.
That's not really what it is.
It's one of these guys, Harry Sisson, one of these 18-year-old Democrats on TikTok or whatever.
I think it's Straight Twinks for Harris.
I think that's what this was.
That's the name of the organization.
Harry Sisson says, we're Gen Z voters and we're all proudly or we all proudly voted for Kamala Harris.
Real men support Harris.
And Robert J. O'Neill says, you're not men, you're boys.
If there was no social media, you would be my concubines.
So not only are you not men, you're like children to me.
And then I would make you into my sex slaves as those children.
That's so wild.
I love that if it wasn't for this damn social media, I would turn you to my concubines.
He's admitting he has an addiction.
That's so crazy.
If I were able to better organize my time and didn't have this social media feedback loop, I have to keep feeding people.
I'd go out there and make a change.
Jesus.
Yeah, this is his bio.
Host of the Operator podcast.
Seal Team 6.
Two silver stars.
Four bronze stars with valor.
New York Times bestselling author.
Speaker.
Front towards enemy.
It's very funny to just read two silver stars, four bronze stars, threatening rape in public and sexual enslavement in public.
I really think it speaks to just the overall level of our military at this point.
Shouldn't a general call you if you publicly threaten rape and sex imprisonment as a bronze star, silver star award winner?
Yeah, I think you should get the call like the one to die for and be told to meet somebody in an airfield where you then get put in a headbag.
Like, this is nuts.
It's pretty great.
So yeah, this is an operator in Afghanistan.
And of course, people got mad at this.
They were like, that's kind of a weird thing to say, man.
That's kind of fucked up.
And I think it's kind of fucked up to be more than happy to send these men overseas into Afghanistan to protect our interests by doing unsavory things such as procuring child sex slaves for warlords and then expect them to be able to turn that off when they get home.
So real.
You gotta remember, he was doing this before social media.
If you think, yeah, he was doing this before social media.
So, once social media came around, he had to release his concubines, and it's been all downhill.
We can't expect him to turn that off.
We trained this monster.
We created this demon.
There's probably so many flip phone footage of war crimes.
We'll never see the light of day because the technology to project it has been lost.
The technology to get it off the phone is gone.
Yeah, exactly.
It's there, but we just don't have the right cable anymore.
Probably the first flip phone was used to record unspeakable acts in an Afghanistan village somewhere.
Yeah, absolutely.
I remember the old beheading videos weren't very high quality.
Oh, that's true, yeah.
Yeah, this is great.
I mean, like people, some people were responding to this by saying like, haha, you idiot.
You don't even know what concubine means.
And I was like, no, exactly.
We're talking about a seal team operator.
They practically invented it, man.
I don't, uh, they, he knows.
I love that people are like, you know, this means you're gay, right?
Yeah, yeah, right?
Exactly.
That's the whole thing.
He knows more than most people do.
He knows in a very real fashion, I'm sure.
Yeah, and I mean, if you want to talk about, like, sexual orientation, you know, I mean, things do get fluid in a more unstable environment, you know what I'm saying?
But before we get to that, he did double down.
Yeah, basically.
Bro is doubling down and still has no idea what he said.
Robert J. O'Neill quotes this and says, No, Jake, I'm telling you exactly what betas like you will be used for.
Sex and food.
Mostly food.
We're gonna eat them, too?
We're gonna eat them.
Now, to be fair, this has been a staple of conservative thought for some time now.
This is, of course, another instance of what, in the modern age, we call Mignon's Law.
Which is where, as a comment section goes on, the chances of a conservative telling you they would eat human flesh increases to 100%.
And we see it here.
Yeah, this is kind of normie.
Like, field strip, you get some long pork.
Like, that's...
That's been around for a while, you know.
The rape part is still fairly novel, I think, outside of prison fantasies.
Yeah.
You know, that's kind of the only time you really see like rape as a fun threat towards other men is in somebody's going to prison or somebody is in prison or you want them to go to prison so they can get raped.
And I do think like the reason we haven't abolished prisons yet is because it's like a release valve for the nominally straight male community to express homoerotic fantasies.
Mm-hmm.
Otherwise, you know, I think we'd simply recognize what an evil institution it is if we had more healthy expressions of homoeroticism.
It allowed a venue for straight men to tell other men that they have a pretty mouth, but it's like an insult.
Exactly.
It's scary, you know?
Yeah.
Wow, this dude's fricked up.
Um...
Another thing that kind of occurred to me, you know, it's not just like in prison that heteroflexibility or whatever it's called becomes a thing.
Yep.
I think they also might be intuiting that like, oh, if like this, the, what do you call it?
The structures continue to like crumble in this country.
Well, that could lead to like a sort of Mad Max scenario where I get to be a Lord Humongous style sex warlord.
And who's going to question that?
Nobody's going to be able to make fun.
Do you think people make fun of Lord Humongous?
No way.
No.
No.
I'm going to turn you into fuckable cannon fodder.
I think that might be why these private military violent psychos are pushing for the apocalypse.
Isn't it in the hopes that they could be maybe a warlord type guy?
Maybe have somebody else bring them The child sex slaves.
That would be nice.
Have them brought to you.
Instead of having to lug these kids around everywhere.
In the dystopia, they'll put you like an Instacart for kids.
Not only do I have a huge arsenal, but I'm also really good at delegating things, planning things.
Yeah.
Plus, I have this mind power that I developed by studying with Tibetan monks, and I use it to control a knife that soars in my enemies' faces if they don't produce enough opium flowers for me.
Yeah.
It took a while, but we got it pretty locked down now.
But the thing is, as much as these guys would fantasize about being given truly free reign, turning America into a chaotic battleground environment like we helped turn the Middle East into, if that happened here, of course they could do all the fun stuff they did over there, over here, with impunity.
But I think they're also just like...
They'd just be fine with a system that doesn't prosecute rape and also forces women to give birth.
Which is essentially the system we have now, so I'm not too worried about their mental health if their most violent wishes doesn't come true, because I think they'll still be satisfied.
But this connects to, I think, I don't know what classification is, but connects to the more internet fascist guys that Like, I don't know, this Twitter guy, Tropical Maga, who is fanboying out over the rape tweet from Robert J. O'Neill.
He quote tweets it and says, Urm, debate me, Chud.
Because he's talking about the Democrat boys.
They would be like, Urm, debate me, Chud.
But then the operator on the right, he's included a photo of the SEAL Team 6 guy, says, I would have sodomized you in the Bronze Age.
And this, he's doing like a Chad meme.
He's doing like the virgin rape victims versus the Chad rapist.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's the whole thing that's going on.
And this itself has like 29,000 likes.
And in their replies, they're like squeeing about it.
Micah replies, I can't put into words how much I love that he tweeted that.
Not to do this to Micah, but I think Micah does love this because I'm looking at Micah's picture and Micah's definitely a sex pest for sure, but he looks too much like it to just say it on the internet that way.
He's just jealous.
The OP Peter replies, I almost coughed up a lung laughing and he doubled down.
He did it.
This dude won all the internets for all time.
And then not that guy replies.
That was the best bit because a lot of people probably assumed he was just R-worded.
And I was like, nah, he literally means he would fuck them.
I think maybe some people think that's what makes him R-worded.
That's not what we're saying here on this show.
I just don't think the two might be mutually exclusive.
Exactly.
I think they don't understand.
Being R-worded is not a monolith.
And then this turned into...
I don't know.
This mixed, in my mind, at least this is the argument I'm trying to make here.
This widespread rape fantasy revelry among right-wing men in what I can see mixed and morphed very nicely with the Nick Fuentes, your body, my choice...
Yep, meme, and it kind of like segued naturally to all these like awful people.
Like this is the first place I saw it.
Well, let me go back here for a second.
There was another tweet that was like, um, yeah, okay, so this, uh, this, your body, my choice, Nick Fuentes meme that has, like, made it offline and into school classrooms, apparently.
No way.
It's being used as, like, an insult towards young girls in schools by the boys.
Uh, And in some cases it appears to be being used as like an overt threat and not just we get, you know, it's pro-life despite your choice.
It seems to be being used as also like sexual threats, pretty disturbing stuff.
And, you know, a lot of people are just coming out and saying it.
Like this one tweet that went viral that was like, women threatening sex strikes, like LMAO is if you have a say.
And it's like this whole like, we're going to rape you is such a wild political tactic.
You would think that it was like controlled opposition.
You would think that these guys were like...
Doing left-wing satire of the right wing or something, just running around saying, we like sexual assault.
It seems like it's too bad to be true.
It's like something the fash of TikTok would post, not realizing it's just internet communists pretending to be fascist or whatever.
It's insane.
It is like controlled opposition, but you still keep losing to them.
Despite how terrible their beliefs are and the things that they're willing to say publicly.
And I think that streamer Destiny, I don't watch any of these guys for the record, so I can't really speak with authority.
But from what has been forced on me by being in social media spaces, from what I can tell Destiny, who's like an annoying, lib, Zionist, centrist streamer, Is like the one who platformed Nick Fuentes to begin with because Destiny is such a debate lord.
Oh, he's a jump off?
That he like brought Nick Fuentes onto his show with, you know, millions of subscribers or whatever multiple times.
And then afterwards, that's like when I guess they saw an explosion in Nick Fuentes' reach and subscribers.
So that's like pre-Kanye.
Oh, pre-him meeting with Kanye?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
He's been around for years now.
Ugh.
So it's just funny because it seems like the millennial version of Hillary and Bill Clinton elevating Trump because of how absurd Trump was or how wrong he was and deranged he was.
So let's highlight him as our opposition so we can beat him and then whoops, we lost to him.
It really feels like there's some similarities there with this Nick Fuentes character.
But I... The first place I saw the whole meme about, you know, you don't have a choice or we're going to sexually assault you or whatever, was like these old ass red scare fanboys that get put on my timeline sometimes.
I mean, they're like virtually indistinguishable between all the other cringe, conservative, red profile pic with glowing blue eyes, you know, following Elon Musk's lead on that.
But I've seen them for so long on Twitter that I just know who they are.
I think these guys are the only straight guys that like that podcast.
One of them looks like a steamboat captain.
He has the mustache that connects to the mutton chops.
It looks like one of the rich guys selling Pinocchio into slavery.
It's thick.
But he's posting memes of his own face with the other guy, handing a piece of paper to you, the viewer, that says, I'm going to rape you.
It says, rape list you.
How is this not like...
This has got to be a crime, right?
Yeah, threatening sexual assault is a crime.
Yeah, because it's so vague that they can't do anything.
It doesn't even violate the X terms of service anymore, man.
That's what's crazy.
And it's just, this dude's like 50 years old.
And he's memeing about how he's going to rape Will Stancil or whatever.
Who's the guy in the middle?
Is that guy in the middle?
I think that's Will Stancil.
Oh, I don't know who that is.
It's okay.
I don't know if I want to know.
Well, he's like a centrist liberal running for office that was just awful in general, but he really...
I don't know if he instigated it.
Somehow, like the alt-right guys on Twitter...
Started, like, ganging up on him.
He just wouldn't stop quote-tweeting them.
And I think, yeah, they kind of drove him crazy.
But yeah, they're, like, making memes about how they're going to sexually assault him.
And yeah, this just kind of goes with the overall, I think, feelings about women among young right-wing boys, you know?
Yeah.
And I just, you know, there's been a lot of talk about a liberal Joe, you know, do we have a liberal Joe Rogan who can combat this sort of weird grooming that's happening?
And, you know, so like, I think maybe we should step up, Tony, and try to attempt to be maybe, you know, the liberal Joe Rogan here and be like, I, Tony, I heard that rape was bad.
Yeah, I've been hearing that.
Can you look that up for me?
Hold on, give me one second.
Let me give me...
Just go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and click around.
Searching.
What does it say?
Yeah, it says it's pretty bad.
It says it's bad.
It says it's like the worst thing.
I actually got...
Hold on, let me go.
I got a homie.
He's a neurosurgeon.
He's a neuro...
He has a...
He's an expert in brains.
Those guys are smart, man.
Let me go and give him a text.
Yeah, the doc.
He's a doctor.
He's a doctor.
He said it's bad.
He said it's bad stuff.
He said it's pretty bad.
One of the worst things possible.
And he's a neuroscientist.
Oh, you know, also I forgot.
I remember I was doing some ayahuasca last week.
And I had a vision.
And you know what?
It told me.
It told me, yep, rape's bad.
It said it's really bad.
It's really, really bad.
Not even funny.
So that's a neuroscientist, ayahuasca, me and you.
Hopefully these boys hear us.
Yeah, I took ayahuasca and all it did was tell me that rape could be monetized.
So maybe we'll have to do it a few more times and see what happens.
I've actually, some people point to certain Egyptian hieroglyphs that suggest ancient beings from another world or dimension actually handed down the idea of sexual autonomy to humans.
Wow.
I can see that.
Like Atlas giving us fire.
I can see that.
Mm-hmm.
At one point, I hit my DMT pin, and I'll see what that tells me.
I'm pretty sure it's going to say the same thing.
It's bad.
Yeah.
So there you go.
I think...
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Some more just general reactions to Trump's win here.
Manshed on Facebook posted, it's like dad went out for smokes and he's finally back.
So sad.
This is so sad.
Trump's my dad.
Honestly, my dad traumatized me and rather than actually confront that confrontation, I just want him to take me back.
That's all I want.
Dad's back now.
He still hates mom, but he's back.
This guy has said every woman he's dated has daddy issues.
Oh, for sure.
It's insane.
I don't know.
I guess I did see some liberal women say that Tim Walls reminded me of their dad if their dad hadn't had their brains turned to pudding by cable news or whatever.
I think that's fine.
I think if, yeah, you don't have a dad, it's okay to look to positive role models and be like, man, I wish my dad were like this, or I could see this being a good masculine role model or whatever.
Just coupled with...
The Tucker Carlson comments, and also coupled with my kind of foreknowledge of what these guys think of when they think of a dad, a real dad, dad is coming home to abuse you.
That is the general, I think, even consensus among even the right wing.
That's why daddy came home in Tucker Carlson's speech, was specifically to spank his...
What did he say?
15 year old daughter?
Yeah, I think 15, 16 year old daughter.
Woof.
Yeah.
Well, I have been like acting out and I think dad really needs to put me in my place.
You know, that's kind of weird, right?
Yeah, well, I don't think that's what they're saying.
I think they just think that, you know, their daughter who doesn't call them anymore is acting up and needs a taste of the belt, you know?
Dad's going to make my sister stop being a slut finally.
I don't know.
Dad went out for smokes and he's finally back.
I know in this analogy, the house voted for dad to leave.
The house overwhelmingly demanded that dad get out.
So that's...
I think that's fair.
I think that's a fair reason for Dad to leave, as if he's voted out.
And, you know, I guess he got voted back in.
There was a power struggle in the household, and certain factions won over, and he's back, for good or not.
And his enemies will feel his lash.
He actually just, like, stopped paying child support, and the only way that your mom could survive is by letting him back in.
But, you know, he's here.
He's home.
This, I think, is the only funny thing I've ever seen posted in the Republican Punks Facebook group.
And it's a meme of Kamala Harris as a fetus being aborted with forceps inside the uterus.
I don't even get it, but it's funny.
She lost.
She lost.
Like, every aborted fetus lost.
Oh, yep.
Yep, exactly.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's just the idea of making this.
I think they should go a step further and they should show Hillary Clinton cutting off Kamala Harris' fetus' face and then putting it over her face.
Putting it on?
Yeah.
Run that one through the AI. Don't run that through the AI. Don't do that.
Don't do it.
I don't want to see it.
I love it because it's acknowledging that abortion can be funny, which it can be.
It's just a medical procedure.
It's good.
This by one of the worst reactions, I think.
I don't know why I didn't see this coming.
It's so obvious.
This is Elon Musk posting a meme of himself.
Wow, I guess we know where these other guys get it.
They love posting their own memes.
Of him carrying the sink into Twitter headquarters when his body looked a lot differently.
He sure did.
That's how you can tell how old this meme is.
It's because this is the Elon Musk version 3 instead of, what, the version 4, 4.5 we got now.
Going into Twitter headquarters with the sink, but it's been cropped, and now he's in the White House, and the caption, would you believe it, says, let that sink in.
Let that sink in.
Oh my god.
Tribunal.
We need tribunals for this man.
Multiple.
And the worst thing about this, just like the original when he brought in the Twitter headquarters, is that fucking shit-eating grin he has.
He is so stoked on this joke.
And you know he's equally stoked on this meme.
He is just grinning ear to ear.
This makes no sense.
Like, aborting Kamala Harris?
That makes sense.
I'm totally on board with you.
I get it.
This?
No!
Elon, no.
This is not a joke.
This is just a pun.
It's not good.
A shit-tier pun made into a black hole of humor by bringing it into the real world, man.
Woof.
The worst thing about Elon memes is you know he's not making them.
He's seeing them or someone's making them for him and pitching them to him or something like that.
So he's not even coming up with them, but he's seeing them and improving them and thinking they're really good.
It's a reference to a meme.
It's so bad.
It's that meme where the door is open and the sink is standing there and it says, let that sink in.
Let that sink in.
Five years old.
What's funny is he could have waited a little bit and actually done it.
He might still do it, huh?
He might still bring a sink into the Oval Office.
I don't know if Trump would let him do that.
I think Trump might let him do that.
I don't know.
I picture their personalities.
If he tells him it's a functional sink and he can actually wash his hands more, I think he'll let him do it.
I think their personalities are too similar.
I think they're both attention whores, and I don't know how long they could even be in the same room together.
I guess they've been hanging out.
I heard they hung out for election night, so I wonder how that went.
Yeah.
I'm very curious.
To be a fly on that wall, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Both just talking about all the things they've put their names on or the names of their companies on that they haven't done themselves.
This was the last one I have here.
This is a very funny conservative reaction.
For me personally, Dan Bilzerian, who's kind of rebranded himself as a Nazi.
Why isn't that guy dead yet?
Shouldn't he be dead?
Because of drugs or steroids?
He should just be dead.
I just feel like I thought he died or something bad happened to him.
You know he's got a lot of money, right?
Yeah, but I thought he fell off and maybe since he fell off he would have just like I don't know.
He's on boats a lot.
Boat accidents happen a lot.
He does a lot of drugs on boats.
I think he's got to even though he has money, he's got to owe people money.
There's a million reasons for us to not ever have to see this guy, right?
I don't even know that much about him.
I just know I fucking hate him.
Yeah, he's some right-wing masculinity influencer who recently got severely anti-Semitism pilled and so has been one of the right-wing figures speaking out against the genocide in Gaza, but it's just because he's worried that too many Jews are plotting in America as well or whatever.
He doesn't actually give a shit about Palestinians, of course.
Yeah.
But he says, I hope Trump was just playing the game because if Israel is controlling him, we are so fucked.
Amazing thing to think.
Trump was already in office for four years, man.
He moved the embassy.
He moved their capital.
They have a village in the West Bank named after him.
How are you able to successfully delude yourself this much?
Because they just heard of Israel a year and three months ago?
Two months ago?
Like they just now heard, that's why.
They didn't realize it was like a real thing.
I'm sure half of these people blindly said Israel good back, you know, whatever, during the first Trump administration.
Dr.
Anastasia Maria Lupus replies, who she's another leading anti-Semite on Twitter, says, he'll end the Jewish wars.
Fingers crossed emoji.
Jesus.
And she's using the white fingers crossed emoji, being very color brave here.
Very proud.
You know, got to give her that one.
He'll end the Jewish wars by letting Israel nuke the area.
What do you think that means?
End the Jewish war?
He's going to help the state complete them.
And of course the wars shouldn't be seen as Jewish wars because they're being carried out by a state and not an actual ethnic group of people.
And there's plenty of Jewish people who are against the wars and against genocide.
You have to be so phenomenally stupid in an active way.
Like you have to be actively making yourself stupid to think any of this shit to both blame the entirety of Judaism and Jewishness for this shit while propping up a guy who's not even Jewish but loves the hell out of it and is supported by and controlled by a community of other people who also aren't Jewish.
Namely the religious right in this country.
who fucking stake everything on Israel.
So you just actively have to go to bed by hitting yourself with a brick to believe any of this shit.
And also, to what end?
It's so crazy.
To be this engaged with it and still be that dumb about it is wild.
Yeah, I mean, it really is just, I think, them protecting their own reputations as right-wingers, as Republican voters...
Be like, well, I voted Trump because I'm hoping he just got tricked by the wily Jew.
Or whatever.
And it's like, no, you just love all the shit that comes along with the right wing.
And you're pretending to not like imperialism when Jews do it because it's a good brand to have right now.
And that's about the extent of it.
If you genuinely believe any of this stuff, you're pretty far gone.
And then finally, Nick Panag...
Panagakos?
I don't know.
Nick Panagakos, who has like a Spartan helmet, has his avatar, replies, America needs Israel in the Middle East.
Israel is in many ways a satellite state, the reasons for which I'm still working on finding out.
I still don't know why it's happening, but I know that's what it is.
That's what it needs to be.
I think we've all kind of known that, right?
That's not a secret, necessarily.
I don't know to what end, but this is what's happening.
America needs Israel.
I don't know why yet, though.
I just know we need to keep doing this.
This isn't a pair of shoes, brother.
This is a whole different thing.
I know I need this, but I can't put my finger on what it is.
I just know it's necessary.
I just love saying that Israel is a satellite state.
And then being like, I don't know why though.
I don't get it.
What do you think a satellite state is?
It's kind of contained within the idea of what it is.
Why a country would want to control another country?
Who could understand?
I don't know.
Because America loves destabilizing the Middle East, you fucking idiot.
Yeah, you dummy.
It's like our favorite thing to do, man.
And you don't need a reason more than that.
Thank you.
Enough with election shit this week.
We gotta go on to some good news.
End this episode on a good note here.
Reading from the New York Post, 15 Staten Island ferry mariners, including Sleeping Beauty, are now millionaires after pulling down seven-figure paydays last fiscal year.
Wow.
What happened was these 15 Staten Island workers, along with a lot of other workers, finally got a contract after 13 years of working without a contract.
Wow.
Which included a raise, as contracts tend to do, meaning they got back pay from all the way back into 2010 or whatever it was when the fucking negotiations actually began.
And so they got like $1.5, $1.6 million payouts in back pay.
That fucking rules.
Can I get a couple fairy horn blasts, Audrey, please?
Can we get them put in right here?
So good.
So what New York Post is referring to here with Sleeping Beauty is one of these workers apparently went viral.
And when I say went viral, I mean the New York Post probably did a paparazzi spread on him three out of the five days that week or something.
There was some photo of one of the workers sleeping.
Or, like, somebody took a photo of a worker with their eyes closed, and it went viral.
They were, like, trying to get him fired and shit.
But the response in the union was, people can't be fired for closing their eyes.
And it's like, yeah, I wouldn't want to get fucking fired by a random photograph that someone took at a moment.
Like, that shouldn't be enough evidence to fire me.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Um, but, uh, as this, as you're reading this article, the thumbnail image is like a, more of like a video, like playing the story or whatever.
And it starts off with a ferry, you know, Staten Island ferry, you know, nice image.
Uh, and then immediately goes to like wads of hundred dollar bill, like piles of hundred dollar bills.
Amazing.
That these, can you believe workers got to be millionaires, Tony?
I'm pretty, I'm pretty upset about that.
That it's just like, um, Stay in your lane.
That's not for you.
The fact that you would even...
You should have declined it.
You should have known better.
It's so funny because it's the whole thing where it's like...
Whoa, my job's way harder than driving a ferry and I'm not a millionaire.
Whoa, hold on.
If I just got to drive a boat all day...
I would've done that.
I would've been a millionaire now.
It's like that whole...
It's not even that they don't deserve it.
It's that, whoa, whoa, how come I'm not getting that?
They don't deserve that because I'm not getting that.
Oh, sure.
I bet that's part of it.
I love the idea of thinking that piloting a ferry boat would be easy.
Easy.
Yeah, totally.
Hey, I mean, it sounds like a fun job, but it also sounds like probably a pretty stressful job and a job you have to take extremely seriously.
Totally.
Let me read from this article here.
It starts with, their ship came in.
New York Post, very fond of puns.
15 Staten Island ferry workers are now millionaires after pulling down seven-figure paydays last fiscal year, including one marine engineer who was infamously caught on camera sleeping on the job, putting passengers' lives at risk.
Records show.
Again, I don't have the evidence for that, nor do I think New York Post has the evidence to make that claim.
We'll just keep going.
The record is the old New York Post article.
That's the record.
Then they fucking started putting photos of these workers in the article.
Jesus.
So we have here Mark Tetanus, a 30-year chief marine engineer, was the biggest instant millionaire this past fiscal year, pulling down $1,689,518.
Let me get some more fairy horns, please.
Ba-baa!
Jesus.
Good.
Good for him.
That rules.
This is so not okay.
Like, hey, listen.
Hey, stick up, kids.
This guy right here just came up on $1.6 million.
This guy right here, whose face we're showing you, he has a lot of new money.
Just so you know.
They're trying to get him robbed so that they can blame Eric Adams' soft on crime policies or whatever.
Yeah.
City taxpayers pour at least $108 million a year into the famous free ferry that runs across New York Harbor from St.
George to Lower Manhattan.
Cool.
Yeah, it ferries like 15 million people a year, apparently.
Yeah, that's a big project, and it sounds like it benefits a lot of people, not just the workers, but everybody who gets to use it for free.
Yeah.
The biggest instant millionaire was Mark Tatanis, a 30-year chief marine engineer who lives in a 1.8 million Bay Ridge home.
Yeah, he's been fucking working there for 30 years, man.
Do you think his home was 1.8 million 30 years ago?
No.
Totally.
His base salary is $169,000, but he pulled down $1.6 million this past fiscal year.
He made headlines for being suspended 30 days and demoted in 2015 after a camera captured him nodding off on the job while the John F. Kennedy boat docked during rush hour.
Um, like that sucks.
If he really was sleeping, like, that sucks.
It sounds like he was punished for that.
He got suspended and demoted for that.
It's, you know, people make mistakes.
I don't know, like like sitting.
I don't know.
You ever you are you going to like castigate a fucking truck trucker for accidentally falling asleep at the wheel?
Like it happens.
You should try to do everything possible to prevent it.
But with the pressures of the job and the, you know, the nature of the job in general, like I'm not shocked to hear that happen.
Also, do you think that one incident that actually apparently didn't cause any damage, because they would have noted that if it did, if one incident negates all the other hours you put into this job, if you have one write-up, do you not get paid that week?
What kind of justice are you looking for here?
How is it docking if he was asleep?
Was there another member who was controlling the boat while he fell asleep or something?
Or was...
I think he probably set the docking in motion and then got 30 seconds of shut-eye while it docked.
I think that's probably what happened.
Totally.
Absolutely.
He's resting his eyes, and that's not a sin, okay?
You can do that.
Yeah, a judge in 2018 scuttled the sleepy semen's demotion, buying the union's argument that, quote, there is no prohibition on closing your eyes while on duty.
Yeah so it sounds like they couldn't even prove that he was actually sleeping.
Yeah.
The city shelled out a whopping $32 million alone to 30 current and retired chief marine engineers and project managers according to a post-analysis of city payroll data for the fiscal year ending June 30.
Back pay lump sum bonuses and fringe benefits more than $21 million worth made up the bulk of the $32 million in payments.
Yeah, that's what happens when you don't pay your workers for 13 years.
Shit backs up.
It should catch up to you.
Ken Giardia, research director for Empire Center for Public Policy, called the Swabby's Hall, quote, silly on several levels.
Quote, you had a contract hanging out for more than a decade.
Then you have the city comptroller not only jacking up the so-called prevailing wage, but then also applying it retroactively 13 years, back to when David Patterson was still governor, and when Homeland and All My Children were still on TV, he said, All aboard the SS Payday!
Uh-oh!
That's right, baby.
The chief marine engineers largely owe their eye-watering plunders to a decision by NYC comptroller Brad Lander, who sets and enforces prevailing wage rates for city workers.
In March 2023, Lander determined Chief Marine Engineers should have been raking in $64 an hour back in 2010, similar to their private sector counterparts, instead of the $40 they were actually making, with their pay rate rising to $79 by 2022.
So the amount of money that these people are screeching over, that they're rending their garments and ripping their hair out over, is based on wages in the private sector.
Based on wages that the market has determined are the appropriate wages.
So as we get into arguments about how, well, this is because of union, This is the fault of unions or whatever.
This is like the bare minimum.
This is like unions getting paid what workers in the private sector get paid.
This is like...
Bringing people up.
Because if you abolish the government, if you're like, well, we don't want public service employees to do this stuff because they have unions and they're so whatever, they're so expensive, yada yada.
You go to the private sector and it's the same fucking price.
You just want to be the ones to make money.
You just want to be the ones to enrich yourselves rather than it be workers, rather than it be government workers.
It's funny because they see this and they think what you're talking about instead of thinking like, wow, am I also missing out on millions of dollars in back pay?
I mean, yeah, it could be.
I think we need to be wary of jumping to the conclusion that it's all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires who object to this.
A lot of people object to this because they are millionaires and they don't think anybody else should be millionaires.
There's a lot of people who are...
Better off who don't think a ferry driver, somebody with a cartoon job or whatever, should be making that much money.
Here we have OG hashtag NYC lawyer shrugs, parentheses, I slash me slash mine probably, replies to this on Twitter and says, makes you seasick.
I like to think that OGNYC Lawyer Shrugs is not a terrible person, but his flaws he can't pass up upon.
He doesn't even really feel this way.
He just can't fight it.
He's like, oh shit, no one else said it.
I have to do it.
I have to make this terrible joke.
It's too good not to be made.
And he's not really a bad person.
He's just a bad person because his humor sucks.
I think you still could have gone with, like, oh, I hope this makes the bosses seasick, or I hope this makes the right-wing seasick, you know?
I think we're seeing who Lawyer Shrugs is.
We go to his profile...
It says private...
He says lawyer...
Parentheses.
I slash me slash mine.
So that's like a pronouns joke.
But then there's another pronouns joke.
Like he did the one joke twice in his display name.
The second time is prive slash account.
It's priv slash ACC in parentheses.
But it's not a private account.
I was like looking at his tweets...
Yeah, we're seeing him right now.
Um...
Is he saying like, I identify as a private account, so you're not allowed to look at my Twitter?
I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck he is doing.
But yeah, he is a sarcastic policy comment, or these are sarcastic policy comments from authentic hashtag NYC lawyer at Yale Law School.
Wrote two blockchain patents.
Tipping is expected.
Matthew 22.2.
And then you look at his pinned tweet, and it is, Hashtag Bitcoin shares with the book of Hashtag Genesis the core premise that man is infinitely untrustworthy.
Bitcoin is perfect for our age when bad character manifested in betrayal of Hashtag Trust is, quote, essential for ascension in civic life.
To be like, no, Bitcoin is biblical in that sense.
Bitcoin is actually like part of having a Christian approach to life.
That's so wild.
Bitcoin shares the book of Genesis is a wild thing to read.
Okay, but what is it saying it shares with the book of Genesis?
Okay.
The core premise that man is infinitely untrustworthy?
Yes.
So it's taking, even if he's not like a Christian, he's taking the idea that human, mankind bad, as God has decreed.
As God tells us every single day, that little voice in the back of your head, you're not worth it, you're worthless, you're scum.
That's God.
Yeah.
Same thing with Bitcoin.
Bitcoin also recognizes that man is flawed, man lies, man deceives, man takes advantage of you, but Bitcoin doesn't, which is why you should put all your money inside this wallet I created and trust your financial savings to this point.
This formula I typed out on my computer, which will make sure that it's always yours, buddy.
I know we just met online and you haven't even seen my face, but you can't trust anyone, right?
So you might as well trust me.
You can trust the blockchain.
He also had Matthew 22 in his profile, so I think he's a big Bible guy.
What is Matthew 22?
I don't know.
Matthew 22 too?
I don't know.
Could be an ironic one.
You never know.
True.
I just, yeah, I love, you can't trust humanity, which is why you should invest your money in just like one of the most volatile places you can.
It's volatile, but it's true.
It's not being influenced by emotion.
He went on in his conversation about the Staten Island Ferry workers.
He says those hashtag Staten Island Ferry workers aren't indentured servants.
It's still a free country, not a free loader country.
They worked the system, which goes to show the system is broken.
Hashtag NYC.
As if they got the job and they were like, listen, I'm going to do this job for 30 years.
After that 30-year mark, we're going to go ahead and renegotiate.
I'm going to get back pay for all the time I put in.
It's going to pay off real nice.
This argument is so...
I think this person might be mentally ill, but just those workers aren't indentured servants.
They could have left any time.
They should have voluntarily left.
If they didn't have a new contract, they should have voluntarily left.
And it's frankly shameful for them to exploit the loophole that ensures that workers have a contract to work under.
yeah yeah they should have said hey something's not right about this job i am gonna protest with my dollar by uh losing my job by quitting my job And that would have been the right thing to do, but these workers, they don't have any fucking morals or, you know, if they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all.
Wow.
Preach.
Some more interesting conversations.
I just have two right here from Big E Mike.
This is on the New York Post comment section, which was unilaterally anti-union.
Mm-hmm.
I think I saw one comment where they were like, well, I'm no fan of unions, but these guys did work for 13 years without a contract, and they didn't get a raise, and it kind of seems like maybe they should have gotten that raise that they were owed 13 years ago, and it had like 25 likes.
But Big E Mike says, there was a day when unions were needed, and in some cases still are, but this is how like 78% of New York Post comments begin.
Yeah.
We used to need union, but things are going so well now.
I love this argument, too, because it's like, isn't that one of the number one reasons that Trump was elected?
And one of the number one responses to polls about how people think the...
Like, nobody thinks the fucking country is going in the right direction.
I love how you're like, unions were needed at one point, but it's so much better now.
I think we can all agree that the elites aren't in control and exploiting the rest.
Like, it's so funny how, like, when the only thing that can actually solve any of the problems you guys constantly talk about is brought up or is shown.
Oh, except not that.
I think we're actually doing pretty fine.
I think America has always been great.
It's just great.
I love it so much.
But folks like these and contracts such as this are a good reason why many people have become anti-union.
It's because workers are making too much money.
That's why everybody's anti-union.
By the way, pro-union sentiment has never been higher in modern times.
It is at its peak in whatever that poll category views on unions.
I think it's like 90% or something.
That's awesome.
By doing what they do here, they sell out the people at the bottom.
Shame on them.
That is, if they can feel shame.
It is shameful for them to be making more money when there's so many people at the bottom who don't.
You know?
Like, the bottom of what?
Of the country?
Like, of everybody?
Because, like, the whole thing is everybody in that company benefited from this.
Anybody in that union benefited from this.
Well, this is a public sector.
Yeah.
Yeah, but still, I'm saying they're not stepping on anybody here.
They're not taking out of another pot here.
That's not how this works.
Well, yeah, I think he's saying that it's the taxpayer.
The taxpayer are the, because this is the argument against public sector unions, is that the taxpayer pays their salary, and that's why they can get these people to be so outraged when the private sector pays the same thing, yada, yada.
The work has to be done, folks.
You want it done by union workers, frankly.
It's so funny because this is one of the few things that is actual service we're getting in return for our tax dollars.
It's a free ferry.
It's a free ferry that a lot of people depend on to get to and from work so they don't lose their jobs.
None of these people ride that ferry.
Yeah, exactly.
But there's not many examples of that, period.
So to just be like, no, this is not cool.
They're not stepping on you.
They're taking them across the fucking bay.
I would probably be a millionaire with my own business right now if I didn't have to pay for services like the ferry, Tony, is what I'm saying.
That's so real.
Roy Williams replies, agreed, dock workers also.
It's just sick how anti-American labor unions are.
This is so good.
Especially in the public sector where there is absolutely no competition to contain costs.
Again, these are wages that are modeled after the private sector.
These are wages that are determined off of the work being done in the private sector.
With only 10% of American workers forced to join a union, making life miserable for the 90% not in a union.
Wow, it sounds like these unions aren't good for anybody.
Wow, the workers themselves have to be forced into a union?
And then also, the rest of the country doesn't get as good of a deal as the workers who are forced into it?
Wow, I don't see why we keep these around at all.
These people really have bosses telling them, like, listen, I would pay you more if these other guys didn't have a fucking union.
And they're like, oh man, you're right.
That sucks.
That's insane.
That's the take.
And it's so actually just like a factual.
It's just so not reflective of what the reality is because even in the private sector, every time UPS gets a new contract and gets a raise, FedEx drivers get a raise.
They have to.
They don't get as much as we make.
They don't have the benefits that we make.
They have to give them something to keep them from all going to work for UPS instead.
And that's like the, quote, competition in the free market that I actually like.
That's the one thing that I'm like, okay, yeah, sure.
You want to pursue competition.
It's like, this is one of those things that actually does have a direct relationship with...
That actually benefits people, one aspect of it.
And then the last reply, JNC here says, the judge who bought the union's argument that there is no prohibition on closing your eyes while on duty has as much common sense as a potato and is absolutely unfit to be on the bench.
There's a reason that military members going to sleep on watch in wartime can be punished with death.
People can die as a result.
The judge should be removed from the bench.
Pronto.
Case closed.
Dad, what are you thinking about?
You got that far off look in your eye.
I was just thinking about the ferry captain being executed for treason.
What?
Well, nothing happened.
His eyes were closed.
I saw a photo of him on New York Post.
His fucking eyes closed.
He was leaning back to...
Also saying, like, fairy time is wartime.
It's the same thing.
Yeah.
And making the argument they don't deserve to be paid more.
Kevin Krauth replies, it's very likely he, quote, bought that argument because the judge was bought too!
It's the union wary!
Which, if that is the case, good.
Good.
That's great.
Sounds like a good use of money.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
Like, it's a judge.
They're fucking, what do they make, like $500,000 a year?
They're all millionaires?
Like, they get bought off just by, like, the class that they're in.
I'm glad there's a countervailing force in the form of our, I would say, very patriotic unions in this country.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, good.
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