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This week we catch up on how Twitter is doing… only to find them being interrogated by the Australian senate about reinstating the account who shared CSEM on Twitter “out of outrage” We examine the way social media’s business model of farming for outrage has never been more apparent or disgusting Also, we take a look at the modern UPS Driver… through the eyes of a Silicon Valley tech podcast guy. Damn I look cool as hell. Finally, the FBI shoots a man for posting too hard. We dive deep into the man’s Facebook posts, chronicling the poop emojis and laughing crying emojis that may have led him to his fate. Get tickets for our live Brooklyn show with Antifada and Pod Damn America on 9/10: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/minion-death-cult-live-tickets-691958234707?aff=oddtdtcreator Get tickets for our live Philly show on 9/12 with Well There's Your Problem and Antifada: https://www.axs.com/events/496996/well-there-s-your-problem-tickets  Pre-order the poster from GRIMGRIMGRIM here: https://www.grimgrimgrim.com/products/well-there-s-your-problem-minion-death-cult-the-antifada-gig-poster  Sign up for $5/mo at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult and get 2 bonus episodes every week Music: No Knife - Heavy Weather Aimee Mann - Wise Up Tragedy - No Cemeteries Here  

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Let's check in with Twitter.
Let's see how Twitter is doing here.
I'm reading from Forbes.
What are we talking about?
What is this Twitter you speak of?
It's pretty funny that Forbes is still just calling it Twitter.
Yeah.
And you just type to use it.
You still type in Twitter.com.
Like, is that ever going to go away?
Like, are they ever going to fully pull the trigger on going to X?
I've never even thought about typing in X.com, but it still just reroutes you to Twitter.
If you type in X.com, like, they have your credit card information.
They just get it.
Yeah, it just pops in there.
So I'm reading here from Forbes, Twitter exec defends restoring account that shared child sex abuse material.
Okay, so a little follow-up on that story.
I can't believe that they're defending this still.
They didn't hear our episode?
Yeah, apparently the $8 that Dom Luker pays Elon Musk every month is worth more than having literally any reputable advertisers on his website.
Um, let me read here.
We're going to, we're going to listen to a conversation that Nick Pickles, who's the name of the public policy director for Twitter, uh, defending, defending, uh, not suspending.
And in fact, reinstating a user who, uh, again, posted child sex abuse material, uh, for fun.
That's wild.
You think any relation to Tommy and them?
Got to.
This guy's a frickin' cartoon character.
I mean, come on.
What a little rugrat.
Executives at X, the company formerly known as Twitter, testified in front of an Australian Parliament hearing late last Wednesday and defended the restoration of an X account after it shared child sexual abuse material in late July.
The incident attracted widespread attention because X owner Elon Musk personally intervened to reinstate the account after a violation that would normally result in a permanent ban from the social media platform, not to mention a visit from at least a couple three-letter agencies, I would imagine.
Nick Pickles, Nick Pickles, the head of global government affairs.
Maybe that's why you hire the guy named Nick Pickles to defend reinstating child sex abuse profiteers, because people can't stop making fun of this guy's name long enough to realize exactly how wretched and scummy your organization is.
He's just got a funny name.
Everybody look at the funny name.
This guy pulled, like, a Hollywood move and changed his name to Pickles because he knows how much Elon loves Pickle Rick jokes.
Oh, man.
And changing his name?
One of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen in my life.
Ever.
I'm still... I'm laughing right now.
You just can't tell.
Right here.
Nick Pickles, head of global government affairs at X, was asked about the incident by an Australian senator late last Wednesday.
Eastern Standard Time, early Thursday, Australian local time, after Pickles first suggested there was a zero tolerance policy for child sex abuse material before seeming to contradict himself.
Pickles said the offending account in question may have been sharing the content, quote, out of outrage.
Which is, that is the sort of like, the charitable explanation we gave for Dom Luker sharing the child sexual exploitation material.
I'm guessing you can't carry that logic over to hate speech?
Being, is it like hate and rage are kind of intertwined feelings?
I don't, I don't think hate speech is much regulated in general on Axe anymore.
Here is, this is courtesy of Matt Novak, uh, and I, is he the author of this article?
Yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, Matt, Matt Novak wrote this Forbes article, but he's got some video from, uh, the Twitter hearing in Australia.
Let's go ahead and listen to it.
This is so good.
It's like the opposite of the guns don't kill people, people kill people argument.
Yeah.
Because like, listen, we have zero tolerance for child porn.
that permanent suspension isn't the proportionate response.
- This is so- - And it's dedicated to distributing.
- This is so good.
It's like the opposite of the guns don't kill people, people kill people argument.
- Yeah.
- 'Cause like, listen, we have zero tolerance for child porn.
The people distributing it on the other hand.
- Yeah.
All he did was watermark it and post it.
That's not, The crime is that it exists in the first place.
Yeah.
Accounts engaging in this, we want off Twitter, off X as fast as possible.
But there are cases globally where people do share this content out of outrage.
And in those cases, we do look at whether removing the content is the appropriate response.
Well, I'm sorry, but if I'm outraged by some content, I'm not going to share that to make the point.
You would think!
Not only that, if you're... Why are you outraged by content that the creator of is already rotting in prison for?
Exactly.
That's why this is happening in Australia, right?
Was he?
Oh, was he?
I think, I guess he was Australian.
Yeah, the original guy was Australian.
Yeah, but I mean, Twitter has to, like, talk to every government they operate in and, you know, deal with those governments.
But yeah, I guess it's because, probably because of that guy being Australian.
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to share something that That's this upsetting, you know what I mean?
And it's like, I get it if you want to raise awareness.
Oh, there was another extrajudicial killing of a black guy or a black person.
And like, people need to know the circumstances.
People need to know what happened, yada, yada, yada.
But you obviously understand why other people wouldn't want to see that in the first place.
Now, why would you keep sharing that video if, like, justice has already been served?
If, you know, the cop who did that was sentenced to, like, imagine that.
A cop, you know.
Yeah.
Killing an unarmed black person.
Sentenced to life in prison.
Like, consecutive life sentences in prison.
There really would be no need to keep sharing that material unless, like, you just want to upset people.
Yeah, the caption would have to read something like, um, if you want justice, it has to be this brutal of a killing along with the video.
Right.
And like, still, that means no one would want to see that either.
Yeah.
There's nothing worse than scrolling and just seeing someone being killed on accident.
Yeah, it's great.
But what I would do is, if I am a consumer of that type of material, you're now just saying, if I just share that in the pretense that I'm outraged, that's okay.
Yeah, I know.
It kind of creates an insane loophole for the entirety of Twitter.
Oh no, you know what?
I'm actually just an outrage farmer.
Yeah.
And Elon Musk goes, Oh shit, that's what our whole business model is.
That's what, that's what this whole, like not just mine, but social media in general is based around farming outrage.
Like we've known, you know, we've known this for years now.
It's one of the features of this show.
It's something we cover quite frequently.
And so, yeah, all you would have to do is say, I only, I only shared the illegal material because I was so outraged by the illegal material.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's all you got to do is have that little caveat on it.
And then how do you engage with that?
Are you allowed to like that post?
Or do you not like that post?
Do you have to repost that post to express your sympathies with it?
That's why you need, I mean, that's why Facebook is superior in this matter, because you could angry react to the child sexual exploitation material.
So everybody knows.
I'm so surprised.
Yeah, everybody knows how you truly, truly feel about it.
Um, or you could like care react because you care about the victim, you know But that might look a little weird, you know, it's like a hugging heart Maybe not maybe not appropriate, but these are the things you would work out if Elon ever gave us a chance to do it Exactly.
Yeah, he's gonna do that.
He's gonna bring some sort of awful reaction system to it and it's going to be a Maybe a good time.
Who knows?
I'm not going to judge until it's here.
Oh, I was, it's just, I was only posting the child sexual, sexual exploitation material to figure out how we stopped posting this stuff.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted to see how I went and bought the gun to show you how easy it is to buy guns.
Yeah, exactly.
It's that mentality.
Uh, let's see if there's any more from this video.
It's actually a problem.
It's a crime and it should be suspended permanently.
Yeah.
There is no excuse whether you're- Like the easiest call in the fucking book to make, except for the fact that you have suckered the few people willing to pay you for the service on the pretense that you're like a social, uh, free speech warrior, that you're a right wing truth teller, free speech You're letting all the white supremacists back on.
You're letting all the COVID deniers back on.
You're letting all the like most awful race science people drive the algorithms for your site.
So You can't suspend him.
You can't suspend Dom Luker because he's got 500,000 followers who are all going to accuse you, Elon Musk, of being a W.E.F.
stooge because you let the guy posting actual child sexual exploitation material get banned.
Now we actually need to bring him to the intergalactic brain and show him that the rage he would cause there is a second layer of engagement that he actually wants.
So he does need to ban him.
True.
Yeah, I mean...
I hate to support it as an abolitionist, but I would maybe like to see some really savvy Australian lawyer make it to where we have to send them the guy who posted it, because that's an Australian crime, and then he'll go to jail there.
I think someone can figure that out.
Yeah, but it's funny that he's like, oh well, it's okay if you share it out of outrage.
Because, and I mean I already said this, but I just want to focus on this for a second.
Because it is in our interest to keep people outraged.
We need to keep people outraged on this website.
And in fact, the guy that we're all talking about here, Man, his outrage stats are through the roof.
He outrages people at like a 99% level.
Motherfucker gets people spun up into a frenzy, and that's what we need.
My man is like a bump stock for these triggers, you know?
Just setting them off.
What if Australia, what if Australia was like, we need to talk about this, this Dom Luker account and what's going on.
And they, and they called, you know, who, uh, Rick pickles, uh, in, in front of the Senate.
And they were like, uh, yeah, we have a, we have a couple of concerning, you know, we're very concerned about this.
Uh, why was Dom Luker banned for telling the truth about Obama getting topped off by the white house chef?
You know, here in Australia, we champion the truth.
And I think that people need to know about the love affair between Obama and his chef that resulted in the death of a black man.
And all of a sudden now, black lives don't matter so much, do they?
Yeah, we're actually filing a Freedom of Information Act to get the 100% real photograph that Dom Luker posted of Michelle Obama jerking off in the background while, yeah, Obama and the chef have sex.
You know, you think that it's an Onion article.
Oh no, a Babylon Bee article that said, uh, Dragging the lake to find evidence of chef's murder.
Cleaning out the swamp.
But we really need to do it.
Yeah.
The offending account is operated by a right-wing influencer who has previously insisted he was just sharing a news article, a claim that's been disputed by journalists on X, who point out the influencer watermarked the material he shared.
Watermarked it?
Why did he do... Like, that's how clout-hungry he was!
That's so crazy!
I mean, watermarking child sexual exploitation material is like...
The lowest form of rent-seeking?
It is like late-stage capitalism trying to sell images of monkeys.
You know, like that's all it is, is just like, well, I can't possibly get a real job, so I guess I'll try branding illicit, illegal, reprehensible materials with my face and name.
And I didn't see it, but I'm assuming he didn't do it in a way that would censor it.
You know, because there's a way you could, like, watermark it and it would also, like, censor it.
I doubt he did that.
Uh, no.
Censoring it might lead to people being less upset when they see it.
Yeah, that's true.
You gotta give it to him on kind of, it's disgusting.
Like, beat this man's legs!
Yeah, uh, awful people.
Just up and down.
Wow.
What a great platform.
Okay, so moving on.
I People have been, a couple people sent me this last week.
Very funny stuff, I must say.
This is, this account, Jason, at Jason.
I don't think must have been an early adopter to the yeah, I don't know too much about this guy He's like a tech guy and he's on the all-in Network which a couple it's like a crypto thing sounds right The all-in podcast Yeah, it's it's got um What's his name?
That other, uh, idiotic Silicon Valley influencer who wanted, like, you know, Silicon Valley Bank to be bailed out.
Uh-huh.
I'm looking it up right now.
Something Sacks.
I can't remember the guy's first name.
But anyway, that's who we're dealing with here.
You know what's tight?
Good news for us?
There's a poker podcast with the same name that's more popular, so suck it.
So, okay.
David Sachs.
David Sachs, yeah.
Just, again, incredibly pathetic people.
So Jason tweeted out last week, fun with numbers.
Line break.
UPS drivers will make $170,000 a year by the end of their new contract.
About $80 an hour in 2029.
Really?
by the end of their new contract.
About $80 an hour in 2029.
Really?
Question mark?
10 hour shift equals $8.
How many packages per hour?
5?
10?
$800 divided by 50 packages equals $16 in wages per package?
I love all the question marks.
Yeah.
The question marks are so appropriate, Jason.
They really are.
Thank you for including them.
How mad are you at this post?
Are you so mad?
Yeah, I know what's going on though, so I can't really fault Jason.
I mean, we'll see, but Jason says, my theory UPS knows robotic delivery will be here in 2029.
So they are settling this contract knowing it will be the last one.
And that's like, definitely.
I mean, there's just so many good hallmarks of being a tech Silicon Valley genius, crypto genius here.
The first one is just taking UPS at its word that we are making $170,000 or we will be making $170,000 a year by the end of this contract.
The second is thinking that a UPS driver delivers five packages an hour.
What?
That's so fucking funny.
They're a UPS driver.
How many packages could they possibly deliver an hour?
Five?
Maybe ten?
If you reverse engineer that, they're also thinking that robotics are only capable of doing that, and they're probably right there.
That would probably be a fast rate for a robot, you know what I mean?
And then again, the last thing here, just totally indicative of Silicon Valley crypto influencer brain.
Is thinking that they're gonna be able to automate a UPS driver in five years.
Yep.
Jesus Chri- You guys can't even get fucking chat GPT to answer a factual question about information that's been around for 200 fucking years, bro.
Like... Also, don't they know that's... They're talking about that?
That's like in the contract too, right?
That's kind of addressed?
Yeah.
Yeah, automation's addressed.
Like, you're- But they're thinking, no...
When we're about to hear Fucker Union, what are they gonna do?
Like... We'll just rebrand the company.
UPS squared.
It'll be... Is it UPS Plus?
Is what it'll be.
Oh, you know what it would be?
It'd be UPX.
I like that one too.
That's good.
Yeah, I guess the final... Like Silicon Valley guy, tech guy...
Cliche here is just not understanding why UPS had to give us any money at all Not understanding why UPS.
Oh, they must have only settled Because they actually they're playing 4d chess They're playing 3d 4d 5d chess and they know that they can fire everybody in five years or whatever and it's not like No, we did it because we have the organizational structure to make them pay us good money for it.
And just, yeah, totally not understand, not, oh, I would never pay my employee $80 an hour for five boxes.
Are you kidding me?
Something else must be going on here.
And indeed, something else is going on here, Jason.
And I think you figured it out.
The T-1000 will be invented in four years and they'll be delivering your packages.
You got it right.
Also, just this all hinges on the idea that $170,000 is too much then?
As if things are going to get any cheaper in five years?
Well, yeah.
As if to maintain your state of life right now, you're going to have to make $170,000?
Like, you need to confront that, Jason.
That's step one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this $170,000 figure includes benefits and pension.
Yeah, that's that's what that is.
So that's not like, you know, an actual wage that I'm making.
This includes, you know, what they've valued health, our health care plan individually at.
I think they value it at like something like 40, 45 thousand dollars just for the health care and for the pension.
The pension's good.
So, yeah, that that adds up to that, that, you know, like before taxes, a UPS driver with like No overtime is making like 70 to 80 grand before taxes.
Now, with the amount of overtime that a lot of people work, that number can obviously go up.
But that's about what our actual wages are.
Well, see, this is the problem with the union people.
You don't understand the value of what you get.
Like, I know you don't pay for health insurance, but that's a cost that you're not paying that I am as a non-union person.
So have you thought about that?
Like you're getting paid that because I'm paying that.
So you must be getting paid that.
It's funny to see people in the Facebook groups, uh, Who are like, yeah, you guys just had to play hardball with the company and you guys just had to, had to, uh, you know, try to get everything you could out of the company.
And now everybody knows what we make.
We're a freaking meme on the internet now.
Everybody knows what we make.
We're the guy with the gold chains and the gold-plated AK-47 delivering your package.
Like, wow.
Way to go, crybabies.
And it's like, I don't care if they know what I make.
Good.
I want them to see what you can make if you have a union.
It's a good lesson for everybody.
Well, you know who else knows how much I make now?
My bitch wife.
Yeah.
You know, she had no idea.
I was like, babe, we're not, I told you we're not getting paid enough.
That's why we're going to the strike.
I make $15 an hour.
Yeah.
So I tried to write UPS and I said, UPS, I said, Madam Carol Tomei.
I will personally sign off on us taking a 10% wage cut across the board if you promise to never tell anybody what we make.
And she said yes.
She said, okay, cool, no problem.
This is just a deal for you though.
I want you to know this is only for you.
You didn't sign a weird contract that breaches- the union's no longer involved in this, so thank you for that.
Dude, I love five packages an hour.
50 packages a day?
Imagine.
You've never done a real job in your fucking life.
No.
This is one of those guys that would write an article about his time at Pizza Hut and how everybody made fun of him because he couldn't cut a fucking pizza.
Yeah.
Sorry, I guess the only thing I was cut out to do was launder money.
Yeah.
Listen, listen UPS, like the stonks have been kind of wild these days, and I'll gladly come deliver 12 packages an hour for $20,000 less.
UPS is like, fuck outta here.
It won't last a day.
Yeah, I deliver 300 plus packages a day.
We don't do 5 packages an hour.
You won't last a day.
Yeah, I deliver 300 plus packages a day.
Yeah.
We don't do five packages an hour.
We do about 20 to 40 stops an hour.
And that probably averages somewhere to like 60 to 80 packages an hour.
Yeah.
Cause you're delivering multiple packages.
Yeah.
Multiple packages per stop.
You know, some of them are mattresses.
When I, when some of them are mattresses and AC units and fucking couches and weightlifting equipment.
Um, when I deliver to hospitals, I delivered like a hundred packages in 10 minutes.
You know, like it's it's it's so absurd to fit like these are the people responsible for our entire fiscal like economic policy.
These are the people that are in charge of San Francisco right now.
And they're going, why are there so many homeless people?
Yeah, I don't understand doing this.
And then shout out to.
Kyle here who found this response from Eve's ex verified.
Who says, when will we get packages into space as UPSers?
This is why I stopped preloading and switched over to management.
What?
Listen, I want to go to space to deliver packages to all the people in space and...
And that's why I decided to be a class traitor.
Hey, to be fair, like if anybody at UPS is going to make it into space, it probably would be a part time supervisor that they just force you into a transfer onto the Mars colony.
And you have to say bye bye to everybody.
That's that.
That is maybe what do you call it?
Like a logical move to make.
Hey, listen, you're talking a lot of trash, bud, but, uh, the only way to go straight to the moon is to go to space.
You gotta go to space to get to the moon.
When will- And that's where I want to deliver packages.
Why do you want packages in space?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, UPS is gonna, like, take over the deliveries to the space stations?
That's kinda cool, maybe?
I'm sure there's some sort of collab that could be done there.
Uh, we wanted to test out what happens to boxes of dog food in zero-g.
Oh, oh, they don't weigh 50 pounds anymore.
Oh, interesting.
Wow.
Imagine how much easier a job would be in space.
That's true, yeah.
So true.
I love this so much, dude.
You know what?
We need to get into space.
That's why I decided to become a part-time supervisor for preload for these four trucks on preload.
That's why I said, fuck preload.
I'm never going to get to space on preload.
Amazing.
Like, does he think he could, he, see, he's making the classic mistake of thinking he can change UPS from the inside.
I'm sorry.
Like UPS is just going to change you into another anti-space drone, into another anti-space, uh, person on their, on their essential assembly line of, of, you know, of non-curious, non-galactic individuals.
And I got bad news for you, bud.
When they do go to space, you know who's going to space?
Union drivers.
Yeah, it'd be by seniority.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Management's not going up there.
No, I honestly could see like, like management just getting transferred.
Oh, you, yeah, you work on the moon now.
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
Outsource it.
See, I've been telling Teamsters, I've been telling my shop steward, my BA, I've been telling all of them, we need to get packages into space because we are losing some of our brightest minds at the Teamsters.
They're leaving the Teamsters in droves to go where they'll be appreciated.
Which is, yeah, walking around with a walkie-talkie and making sure that everybody gets off the clock under three and a half hours.
But see, the cool thing about being inside is I get to wear sneakers like the guys at SpaceX.
No, you don't.
Much, much stricter dress code for management.
I know that now.
No, honestly, the only the literal only benefit into going into management is like, yeah, if you're a brand new employee and you want like an extra $300 a month so you can buy like a Subaru Subaru WRX or something like that, literally the only reason I do not do not recommend that, especially now that part timers are making a bit more money.
Especially since like the good WRX's, those are hard to come by now.
They don't make them like they used to and parts are just becoming more and more rare.
Okay.
So maybe think of a different project.
Yeah, and I guess a payment now is probably more than 300 bucks, huh?
The WRX payment.
Yeah.
It's probably like 600, something like that.
Easy.
Yeah.
Sucks, man.
Just got to get a second part-time supervising gig.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grind, grind harder.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, just a beautiful peek into the way, um, these people think a real job works.
Like just how, how little they value this labor that they absolutely depend on every day.
Like how many packages do you think Jason gets delivered to his house in a week?
Probably like at least once a day I would bet.
Oh yeah.
And it's those super heavy paperweights.
It's the tungsten chunks.
So it's the smallest, heaviest package possible.
Cool.
The smallest, heaviest package I've ever... I wasn't delivering at the time.
I was loading trucks.
They used to ship metal fasteners.
in boxes that were like like like the size of a of a notebook, you know, like like maybe the size of a piece of paper and we're like maybe six inches thick.
So something like something like that.
Fasteners, like little L brackets with little, you know... I know exactly.
I worked at Home Depot and I remember seeing them like on flats that way.
Yeah, 80 pounds.
80 pounds in a box that's like you can hold with one hand.
You could hold it with one, you could grip it with one hand if it weren't so fucking heavy.
I don't want to hear it.
You only have to deliver five to ten of those an hour.
Uh, those boxes were packed so tight that literally 80 pounds, literally 80 pounds in a smallest box that if you like dropped it, if you set it on the ground from like a foot off the ground, it would just explode.
Awful.
Yeah.
Um, I don't think they ship them like that anymore.
They might've wised up.
people started making me explode on purpose because it was kind of funny you got what you want you can hardly stand it though by now you know it's not going to stop It's not going to stop.
going to stop it's not going to stop till you answer sad day for free speech as a man Craig Robertson was killed by the FBI merely for expressing himself via Facebook word art
uh Geez, they don't even want us to have friends anymore.
They don't even want us to be creative.
Everybody complaining about AI and all that.
Yeah, our Facebook warriors are on the front lines of that every day.
They're getting executed just for creating original works.
You know they killed Basquiat.
*laughs* Um...
Poof.
Where to start here?
Tons of material on this guy.
Let me start with the article here from New York Post.
Armed Trump supporter Craig Robertson, not to be confused with Craig Robinson, thankfully, shot dead in FBI raid linked to threats against Biden top Dems.
I believe this armed caveat here is new armed Trump supporter because the previous reporting hadn't Explicitly said that he was armed when he was killed.
They hadn't detailed the events of the shooting.
Well, I mean, knowing the history of these things happening, regardless of what's happening too, they do tend to get armed later on in the story.
You know?
Right.
We had to actually find the drop gun before we could say he was armed.
An armed Utah man was shot and killed by FBI agents during a Wednesday morning raid linked to assassination threats against President Biden and other top Democrats, including Vice President Kamala Harris and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
Wow.
Folks, if your family members are posting about a guy named Alvin Bragg, it's time for an intervention.
Yeah, check on him.
Maybe check him, maybe like get him a place with help where they can live with no Internet.
And maybe only like a dozen guns instead of six dozen guns or whatever they fucking pulled out of this guy's house.
This is just wild because this is just, I guess it's not an urban legend.
You can't just go around making threats to the president.
I remember hearing that as a child, but here we are watching it come in real life.
The deadly shooting occurred in Provo around 6.15 a.m.
when the feds tried to serve arrest and search warrants at a home.
The FBI office in Salt Lake City told the Post in a statement.
A lot of people were saying, why did they go at 6.15 a.m.?
This was obviously just a clear assassination.
They wanted to kill him.
It's pretty fucking rude, honestly.
That's really what it is.
That's called the morning.
For most people, the 615 is called the morning.
Well, yeah, but I'm not ready for a raid until my coffee's done, you know?
Sure.
For retired Facebook users, that's a little early, I think.
Yeah.
A federal complaint obtained by the Post from the Utah U.S.
Attorney's Office identified the suspect at the center of the probe that prompted Wednesday's raid as 75-year-old Craig Robertson.
Again, this is like one of the grandpas and grandmas that Mike Cernovich and Benny Johnson and all those guys were like, they're coming after him just for being a grandpa.
They want white genocide so bad, they're going backwards in time and assassinating grandpas.
If you look at their profile, it is full of really nice comments under their grandchildren's post.
Telling them how pretty they look.
These are good people.
An agency spokesperson confirmed that one person struck by gunfire had died, but she did not share any further details about the agent involved shooting.
Yada yada yada.
Here's a photo of him.
Craig Robertson described himself as a MAGA TRUMPER!
I might do that also.
Just by looking at you, I might also describe you as that.
Let's get into some Craig Robertson posts.
What do you say?
Yeah, let's do it.
I think it's safe to say that Minion Death Cult has...
The exhaustive compilation of Craig D. Robertson posts here.
His Facebook profile, yeah, he's like in a tactical operator get-up.
He's got like a helmet and goggles, pointing some sort of rifle at the camera.
He's got gloves on.
This is a post from August 7th, 2012.
Today I cut off Obama's head, gutted him, skinned him, roasted him, and ate him.
Minions.
Minions law.
Already.
Wow.
Roasted him and ate him.
Then I piked for an hour.
P.S.
So you're thinking, you're thinking, wow, that's weird.
This guy ate Obama.
He cut off Obama's head, gutted him and ate him.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
There's got to be more to hear about this on the news.
It's got to be more to this story.
Yeah.
And he continues.
P.S.
Obama is the name of my neighbor's cat.
LOL.
Oh, he just cut off his neighbor's cat's head and gutted it and roasted it.
Okay.
Nevermind.
This is a normal person.
Oh, it was a joke.
Wow.
Oh, my bad.
That's a really... What?
I call my neighbor's cat Obama.
Oh, cool.
I would hate my neighbors if they did name their cat Obama, but I wouldn't do any of that.
It'd probably be a nice cat still.
What does piked mean?
I don't know.
I piked for an hour.
Puked?
Maybe puked.
Maybe puked for an hour.
Okay.
That's totally what it is.
Because Obama would make you sick if you ate him.
Yeah.
I think so would your neighbor's cat.
So would a cat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is from July 23rd, 2012.
So just before August 7th, Eating Obama post.
I don't know how y'all feel about Obama, but I ain't shy to tell you I'm sick of his lying mouth.
From his Marxist point of view, the rest of us Americans are too stupid to walk and chew gum.
That comment Obama made last week about us, parentheses, I mean real people, not building anything?
It was all because of government?
This guy just shows us every time he opens his mouth just how stupid he is.
You know folks, hyphen, YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!
Remember, this jerk, fool, idiot, Obama can't run on his record and lies about everything.
Damn, I'll bet he ain't black neither.
Would you bet?
Would you bet that?
I mean, the odds would pay off in dividends, so maybe.
Well, I mean, we'll have to find out if he voted for Biden.
That's how you tell, right?
That's how you know if he's black.
Yeah.
If Obama wasn't black, what have these last 10 years even been about?
Huh?
Why have we even done him?
What's the point?
When will America wake up and realize he isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread?
In fact, I want to eat him!
Not only is he not the greatest, I want to eat him up!
Hell, he isn't much more than the dimmest bulb in the box and a puppet for that S.O.B.
George Soros.
In case you have any doubts about my real feelings towards our joke of a president, Obama sucks!
I like how that's the ultimate verb.
As a matter of fact, I think he sucks.
Yeah, not afraid to say it.
Hey Obama, I heard from Craig D. Robertson that you suck.
A little birdie told me you suck, dick!
- I'm sick.
Okay, so here are the big ones.
Well, let's do these first, okay?
These are word art from this year, from June and August of this year.
This is the brown collection.
This is the poop emoji collection of word art.
His brown era.
This is when he was wearing his brown tinted glasses.
Um, you, you make word art.
It has like a background.
It looks like a meme kind of, and it makes, generates a background for you.
And he's generated poop emoji backgrounds, sort of looks like an iPod commercial.
Like the poop emojis are being thrown up into the air in slow motion.
And they're kind of like all.
The iconic poop emojis.
Kind of all around.
Um, Jack Smith.
Okay.
So first one, August 1st, Jack Smith has smelly brown stuff all around his nose.
Guess it's because he just pulled his nose out of Merrick Garland's keister!
Ew.
Either because he's a brown noser, do you get it?
This is what I talk to my co-workers about.
I say, hey, you know why Jack Smith's nose is so brown?
And they're like, who?
And then I go, because he just pulled it out of Merrick Garland's keister!
And then they go, who?
And I said, yep.
Yep, exactly.
You know, he notoriously has that stuff on his nose.
We've all seen Jack Smith's brown nose.
I know.
Yeah, this is again like he's he made something up and then he's using the thing he made up to like air go.
It's because he pulled it.
Yeah.
Next poop emoji word art.
The Biden administration is the turds afloat in the cesspool that is now America.
That's what defines cesspool is it has turds floating in it.
Yeah.
And they're the Biden administration.
Yeah, God, I fucking hate America.
God, I hate what a cesspool America is.
I think the swamp isn't strong enough.
The swamp is not a strong enough critique.
We need to make sure it's a cesspool, actually.
Craig Robertson, June 8th, says... Again, this is poop emoji word art.
The Democrat... Oh, these are all caps.
I guess I should have been reading them in all caps, huh?
I'm sorry.
The DEMOCRAT BIDEN CRIMINAL MACHINE IS TRYING IT AGAIN!
WHEN BIDEN LOSES, HIS BEST RECOURSE IS A PISTOL IN HIS MOUTH!
You know... Oh, he didn't lose, so we don't... We'll see.
This is good.
I mean, you have to like, you have to just be a little smarter about this.
And you, what you do is you post, Hey Biden, KYS.
Yeah.
That's how you get around the Secret Service visit.
He doesn't actually mention poop in this one.
There's actual doo-doo reference in the other two so far.
So this is interesting.
You do lose control of your bowels when you shoot yourself in the head.
True, you do shoot yourself, yeah.
Again, Limp Dick Lloyd Austin, Secretary of Defense, it will always be Fort Bragg.
Shove Fort Liberty right up your ass!
Shame!
I don't know about that story, but I feel like they'd be pumped on something called Fort Liberty.
I know, yeah.
Well, it's probably the Libs trying to out-patriot the right wing, but they're too smart for that.
Because we're all going to call it Fort Lib.
Here are the big ones.
So he got called... The FBI came to his home for previous posts and talked to him.
Say, hey, don't post that stuff anymore.
And then he decided to post this.
On March 30th of this year, the FBI tried to interfere with my free speech right in my driveway.
My .45 ACP was ready to smoke them!
Laughing, crying emoji.
Laughing, crying emoji background.
Dang.
Yeah, I don't think you can do that.
Like, you're like, in that moment, I was ready to kill him with a specific gun that I have.
Here are also the pictures of me showing that I know how to use these guns.
Uh, and on March 24th, he also posted, again, laughing, crying emoji word art, to my friends in the Federal Bureau of Idiots.
I know you're reading this and you have no idea how close your agents came to, quote, violent eradication.
Oh my God.
Hey, come again and I will violently eradicate your agents.
You can't do that, bud.
You think he tried?
You think that's what happened?
I think he probably really... I hope he really went for it.
Went for what?
For trying to do that, to violate... I hope he actually tried to go for it.
In that moment, he's going out like a martyr, you know?
Yeah, it's none of my business, really.
Again, I wish the FBI wouldn't kill people, but he's pretty far down on my list.
I mean, he does seem like a Facebook-addled geriatric guy.
Unfortunately, the tone of all that stuff changes when you post yourself in a ghillie suit and all your guns demonstrating that you're ready to go.
Oh, here's a great one.
This is from February 4th.
Wonderful dream!
I dreamed I was in a dark corner of a Washington, D.C.
parking garage.
I was standing over the body of the U.S.
Attorney General Merrick Garland with a bullet hole dead center in his forehead.
That's real specific.
In my hand was my suppressed Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm smoke wafting from the muzzle.
The Star Spangled Banner playing quietly in the distance.
And I thought to myself, what an amazing patriotic moment as shivers of liberty and freedom swelled my heart for our amazingly great country.
This wouldn't have been so bad, but he also downloaded a really amazing version of the Star Spangled Banner moments later, so it seemed more actionable. - Unbelievable. so it seemed more actionable. - Unbelievable.
This guy is just, he's like... Conservatism boiled down because...
It is, he's just at the end of his life.
He's 75, according to reports, he did not have much mobility, just unhealthy person, fantasizing about a way to make his life meaningful again.
Yeah.
And they convinced themselves that like, well, it would really be a selfless act if I gave my life to kill Merrick Garland.
Yeah, I could go out like a hero.
That would stop everything I'm worried about is just Merrick Garland.
But when you put him in play, and that's like a fantasy that so many of these people have.
It's a fantasy that's not necessarily with Merrick Garland but with Any any of the swamp that they've been told are, you know, the sole reasons for their whatever, their declining status or, you know, their embarrassment for being American or whatever.
But again, if you like with that blackface woman in Target, if you say this stuff explicitly, if you stop memeing about it, if you stop, quote, like joking around it or beating around the bush about it and you just come out and say it.
This is what it sounds like.
This is what it sounds like, and this is how, like, awful these people are.
Yeah, when you get real specific, it's bad.
Yeah, and I mean, here it is.
I hear Biden is coming to Utah, Robertson wrote Sunday.
Oh no.
Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle.
Welcome, buffoon in chief.
Nope.
Yeah, you're getting another visit.
What's wrong with you?
Again, I don't think the FBI should have killed this guy, but you're going to get a visit from the FBI for posting this.
And then to post, if you visit me FBI, I will kill you.
Like, I don't know how this went down.
I'm not going to really trust an FBI report, an FBI accounting of how it went down.
But you probably don't want an FBI SWAT team to come into your house, which is what's going to happen if you post these kinds of things.
Any pretty much anything can happen at that point.
Yeah.
So here's a tweet from Benny Johnson that I thought was just a great like Beautiful summation of the story.
He quote tweets the New York Post article and says, isn't it odd when the FBI murders an elderly 300 pound handicapped Trump voter in cold blood, we immediately get menacing pictures of him and his life story and every social media post he ever made.
But when a transgender murders Christian children in cold blood, we get nothing.
What?
It's like so the opposite.
These are just the pictures they had.
This is the only pictures he have.
That's all he posted.
It's like, sorry your guy can't stop posting and incriminating himself.
This is like all of you people at this point.
This is the fucking leader of your party cannot stop posting and incriminating himself.
Yeah, can't help it.
It's all you guys do.
It's a disease.
And it's like, obviously you want propaganda that shows the trans shooter To be this, like, anti-white or anti-heterosexual or anti-Christian, you know, terrorist or whatever.
But maybe they were just smart enough to not do that.
Yeah.
Like, sorry.
It's not hard to not post.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry that this is, like, all that constitutes the right-wing movement right now is posting, is virtue signaling on the internet, posting about the violence you want to do to your enemies.
Yeah.
But this also got me thinking like, you know, the trans shooter.
Well, they were going by a different name, right?
They were going by a different name than the one they were born with.
So, are people becoming trans so that they can do mass shootings without getting outed on the internet?
So you can't go look up their Facebook profile because you'll have a different name.
I think that's something we need to look into.
That's probably what it is.
They all have a past life of posting all their guns in ghillie suits.
Yeah, okay, well, Tony's gotta get going, so we're gonna wrap it up here.
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