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So I saw a post about a training program, question mark.
Some sort of fitness challenge, perhaps?
Called the Modern Day Night Project.
The MDK Project.
Oh, that's what it stands for.
Yeah, Modern Day Night.
And if you're like... Modern Day Night.
It doesn't really roll off the tongue that well because it's like, it sounds like you're immediately contradicting your... Modern Day Night?
Is this day or night?
What the heck?
Or if you're also like, I don't know why they need day in there.
Modern is, is, day seems redundant.
You don't have to say modern day.
You can just say modern night.
Uh, it's because they wanted it to be MDK.
It's because they wanted it to be Murder, Death, Kill.
They wanted it to be the Murder, Death, Kill project.
Something that we would never ever, we would never do that.
We would never try to use an already existing acronym and run with that.
We would never do that.
MGC has always meant Minion Death Call, and I've never heard of anything else that was really cool.
I've never heard of anything else with the same initials, so that's a really weird move, modern day knights.
The MDK prop, Murder Death Kill Project, Minion Death Kill Project.
This project consists of what appears to be middle-aged entrepreneurs paying $15,000 to get screamed at for 75 hours by, like, a guy who lied about killing Bin Laden.
$15,000.
That's so much.
That's absurd.
If anything proved that some people have too much money... Holy shit.
You know, it, this actually might be hilarious.
Like the people who are running this, because they don't, the people running this don't do this stuff, they just yell at the people.
They might just be like very openly making fun of dumb assholes with lots of money and like actually punishing them in real time.
But I think that's also me being generous.
Well, the guys who run this are like S-tier grifters.
They're like expert level fucking grifters because there are like four or five concurrent projects almost exactly the same as the MDK project that they also run and found with varying degrees of psychopathy involved.
This one is like the highest psychopath range, but they also run something called the LTD project or the LTD program.
Which is like leadership and training and development where you and your team that you work at your startup, you all go do push-ups on the beach.
You all go do push-ups and have a seminar about assertiveness or whatever or mindfulness or presentism or whatever.
There's also the Operation Blacksite.
Which is like a step up from the LTD program, which is again, like team building.
Uh, it can be, uh, more than it can be multi-gender.
You can bring the women along on your team.
That's fine.
But you're also going to be doing like an hour of basic MMA training and, and maybe, maybe like learning how to breach a room or something like that.
With a name like that, the team building is, they have a heavily modified rifle that everybody on the team needs to be holding some sort of safety before the trigger can be pulled and you all execute a man together.
You know, as a team.
Yeah, okay, so for this Operation Blacksite team building exercise, we're gonna see how tall we can get this pyramid.
Yeah, yeah.
Probably the worst, though, is The S.Q.U.I.E.R.
program.
The modern day S.Q.U.I.E.R.
program, which is where you bring your son along with you to fake Navy SEAL training.
That's so sad.
So it's a bunch of like- From everything I've read of this, bringing kids here should not be allowed.
It's a bunch of like the lusorous dads who pay, what, probably $25,000.
To get screamed at in front of your kid.
I'm gonna be, I'm gonna, you're gonna see what a cool guy your old man is by getting screamed at a red-faced maniac and having to take it.
But see, like, you can see Dad only listens to him because this is also a real man and I respect it.
I know that this man has actually taken the life from somebody else, so I have to respect this man.
That's why I listen when he yells at me.
I just love the idea of, like, What if there was one of those, you know, like, like a normal team building seminar that I guess if you work in an office, you might have to go to, you know, like your boss might make you go to.
But you also have to like crawl on your belly through rocks and the speakers waterboard you.
Yes, like actually, like you're getting tortured.
You're getting tortured.
Who is the master of your destiny?
And you're like gagging on water.
You're like, Oh yeah, I am sir.
Are you getting like getting electrodes put on your testicles?
And they're like, where do you see yourself in 10 years?
And you like accidentally, you know, tell them you're like your life, your plan, your criminal plan, all the embezzling you've been doing and how you think you can finally pay that out because you're being tortured and you don't know what to do anymore.
You just got to tell them what they need to hear.
You're like, well, actually, I'm pretty content with where I am in this company.
You know, I'm making enough money to support my family, and I still have, like, time to go spend with them.
And they're like, wrong answer, buddy.
Give you a little shock.
Give you a little zap.
They fucking bring the cat of nine tails up under the chair with a hollow seat.
Give you a little sting.
It really wakes you up.
It makes you feel alive, is what it is.
I also read that LinkedIn post that's going viral about the MDK project, where apparently somebody died doing this 75-hour program, and I was just like, okay, so this is the Minion Death Cult.
It's real.
So I want to read from this LinkedIn article.
My experience trying to attend quote held week at the MDK project.
This is Jimmy Rex.
This is from February 24th of this year.
So just just so we don't feel bad for anything that Jimmy Rex writes, he is like a real estate entre quote real estate entrepreneur, which means he has money and buys buildings, buys buildings and sells buildings.
He sucks.
He just has this shitting grin on his face with his backwards hat.
He just sucks.
You just don't like his face.
You see his face and you just instantly hate this guy.
You just know that if he's being kind to you, it's because he's going to try to sell you something.
That's the only reason he talks to anybody.
If he's being kind to you, it's probably because you're being secretly filmed and he's about to hand you a $100 bill.
Oh, yep.
Oh, awful.
Okay, I'm gonna read from this LinkedIn article.
I had a crazy experience that taught me many great lessons the past few days, so I want to share it with you... About two months ago, I was speaking in California and I was able to connect with Bedros Kulian, whose last name appears to be misspelled by Jimmy, another one of the speakers.
He runs an event called, quote, The Modern Day Knight Project, that is essentially a reenactment of Hell Week for Navy SEAL training.
So this dude was a co-speaker with the guy who founded the Modern Day Knight Project.
This is what it is.
It's like a pyramid scheme, except it's more like a spiral.
It's more like an infinite number of entrepreneurs, entrepreneuring each other, all the way to a black singularity in the center.
That's what's amazing about like Bedros is because like Jimmy was going to be like, Oh man, I have this commercial, this commercial real estate opportunity that you just can't miss.
And then, but Bedros is like, Hey, like what if you give me money to torture you and your friends?
Um, and it's just going to make you sell more commercial property.
I still don't want that commercial property, but I can have you sell more of it.
I probably would have actually bought it from you had I known you'd been tough enough to survive the MBK project.
It's so, Like you said, S-tier grifter.
It's like that illustration in, I think it's Dante's Inferno, where it's like either all the demons or all the angels spiraling around each other, just like an orbit, like a solar system of grifters just revolving around each other, both pushing and pulling on each other.
That's what, because again, you have to have $15,000 to do this thing.
Okay, this year one of my big goals is to do four events that push me past where I am comfortable.
I thought this sounded like a fun event to start with.
I was still in decent shape from the fall when I got into the best shape of my life, but I knew I needed to be in better condition to do this.
I didn't realize until the event that I would have needed to be in the best shape of my life to complete this.
I learned so many things in such a short amount of time, so I want to share them with you.
The writing is so fucking good.
I know I was in the best shape of my life, but turns out I needed to actually be in the best shape of my life.
Are you saying that you weren't in good enough shape, or you fell from that where you were and you should have been there?
Well no, what he's saying is like, as a man as he currently consists of, that was his peak.
He realized he needed to become a new man with a higher peak altogether before he could even start the program?!
That's not good advertising for your program, guys!
Oh, you can't even do this program unless you're in the best shape of your life.
Also, so he says, uh, we started Tuesday at 1pm and here's how it went.
Also, I learned from a different Vice article that the way they introduce you to this program is they put a fucking black bag over your head and they drive you to the location where all of this takes place, which is also again, by the way, Southern California.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Perfect.
Perfect, just like, bastion of white boy masculinity mixed with, like, California New Age pseudo-spiritualism.
What happens if you, cause, if you're at a hotel and you get black bagged there?
I think you're in a parking lot.
I think you're like standing in a hot parking lot.
Amazing.
I mean, if you're in Southern California, there's like an 80% chance you're standing in a hot parking lot already.
Anyways, yeah.
Okay.
1 p.m., fitness test, one mile run, 100 pushups, 100 squat thrusts, 100 crawl outs, and another mile run, all under 75 minutes.
This was the easiest part of the day.
So just immediately, you're just doing 100 push-ups, running 2 miles, 100 squat thrusts, all in the course of 75 minutes.
How do you start your day?
That's how I start my day.
Yeah, at 1pm.
You know, I do 200 crawl outs, but that's just me.
Damn, you should start your own project, I think.
I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking about it.
Next, we loaded up a big backpack and a 10-pound sledgehammer and headed off on a trail run up and down mountains and hills for an hour.
When we got to the end of the hike, we began climbing and bear crawling and stomach crawling up a mountain for an hour.
This rocks.
This is so fucking funny, dude.
Like, again, Tony, What you said about maybe they're just owning rich people.
Maybe they're just, like, torturing rich people for fun.
They are.
Not out of, like, any, like, class spite or anything like that.
Just out of sadism and out of, like, a love for easy money.
Because, yes, all of these fuckers will pay $15,000 for you to just make them do shit they've never done before and scream at them until they, uh, do 50% of it maybe or literally just wash out go ring a bell and leave and then you get their $15,000 either way you have to you don't have to actually train them the training consists of you screaming at them to keep crawling
Man, I'm gonna have to get like a leads list from their emails and just distribute them to all my Fyndom friends.
Invaluable!
Oh my god, if they are not selling every single one of these motherfuckers home address, email address, phone number, they're losing out on billions of dollars.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm just gonna give leads to all my Fyndom friends.
And they're just gonna ball out.
I mean, Fyndham is one- Anything.
Literally anything.
Sell these people fucking anything.
Yeah.
Jesus.
They will literally pay for you to torture them and not even, like, get a sexual- get a happy ending out of it.
Yeah, not even in a cool way.
Not even in a cool way.
When we got to- Then we did the trail run back.
At this point, I felt a sharp pain in my right knee and knew I was in trouble.
When we got back to the compound, we were introduced to the pit.
This thing is a dirt field full of rocks, shards of cement, trenches, and railroad tracks.
It's about 50 yards across and .6 miles long.
We spent the next several hours doing gassers, running sprints across it, mixed in with stomach crawls, crawling on our back, and bear crawling across it.
It was also raining the whole time, and oddly cold for California.
Somebody said it was 39 to 45 degrees the entire night.
And also, about every 15 minutes or so, they would have us jump in a horse trough of cold water, like ice water, literally ice cubes of the water, just so we were soaking wet, covered in mud the full time.
This is cool.
It's great when, like, your training regimen isn't so dissimilar from you, like, having an ant colony.
Yeah, yeah.
And, like, you also, like, doing awful things to your ant colony.
Like, just, you know, putting a little dropper of water on, like, all of them, you know?
Oh, this one's called the Magnifying Glass Challenge.
I'm gonna burn you.
I'm gonna fucking burn your eyeball out.
I was really hoping to find a picture of the pit, because it's hard to imagine what the pit looks like.
Because he's talking about, like, just chunks of rubble, and you got a bear crawl over that?
Like this is fucked.
It looks like, uh, like garden rock, you know, like landscaping rock is kind of what it looked like with, but like more, more dirt in there.
Um, After that, we had an hour in the classroom where we had a dry pair of shorts and a shirt to put on.
We then went in and jousted each other for about an hour.
This is fucking, like, kindergarten activity time for middle-aged men with no purpose in life who are just like, Divorced as fuck.
Like no self-esteem.
It's just like, oh, you're going to give us $15,000 and you're going to get to play with like American gladiator props.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like, I love that they're, and they're all doing this and they're probably just so exhausted and they still like have to like fight each other.
And that's amazing.
Like you're fighting each other at like 40% energy, you know, 40% strength.
And like, that's awesome.
Yeah, I was looking at some photos and I really think it's like a punching bag that's got handles on it.
And so you can like duel with somebody.
He said joust, but he doesn't mean joust, I don't think.
No, I think that's like just trying to dress it up a little bit.
I got my bell rung pretty good once.
That was the most fun part of the night, although exhausting.
Then we assumed the night would get easier, and maybe we would get some food, but instead, it was back out to the pit.
This was especially bad because it had begun to pour rain again, so they just had us put our wet, muddy, cold clothes back on.
At this point, my knee got tight, having been sitting around, and I knew I would have some issues.
We started to stomach crawl again, and after about an hour of not being able to bend my leg, I knew it was time to tap out.
Sharp pain in my knee was all I needed to know that I didn't want to hurt myself any worse.
It was just after 1am.
The total experience for me was exactly 12 hours.
I've had a full day to contemplate the experience now and I'm trying to decide what to make of it all.
I have a lot of thoughts.
Here are some of them.
1.
I had absolutely no business trying to do this event.
5 years ago I ran a marathon with no training and I suffered from it for the following week but I pushed through the pain for the 5 hours and 9 minutes.
This wasn't the same.
I couldn't keep pushing because it was a 75 hour event and the body needs to repair.
I didn't train as I needed and I paid the price.
The classic example of not being prepared.
You didn't do your homework!
You know what I mean?
Like, when you show up to class on the first day, you think you didn't have to do anything before?
It's like, no, you have to do, like, not just the coursework, if we're using this analogy.
You would have had to do the Hell Week thing every week leading up to the event in order to do the Hell Week thing competently.
You would have had to do what you paid to do for free Ten times?
Eight times?
Before then, you could have accomplished the thing you paid $15,000 for.
And I love that he admits, like, I'm so arrogant that... No, listen, I ran a marathon without training one time, and it sucked.
It was awful.
I hurt for a week, but I finished it.
I pushed through the pain.
Didn't learn anything from it.
And so, I think his mentality was like, well, you know, it wasn't... I could have done that better.
I could have felt better and done that better with training.
It was like, well, I survived that, so whatever this thing is, I can do it.
And also, there is no surprises that any of this is going to happen.
You're kind of told it's going to be grueling.
That's the whole point.
The whole point is for this to be epic as fuck and to get people like, wow, SJWs are triggered that we made men into men by making them crawl on their belly in rocks.
That's the point.
The point is how extreme they're trying to be.
I really like how he phrased it, you know, I had no business doing this.
And he's doing this thing where he's saying like, listen, this is where real men come from.
I consider myself a pretty real man, but I'm not a real enough man to be with these men who are real men.
Yeah, just the abasement continues.
This guy paid $15,000 to like permanently fuck up his knee and he's like still shilling for them essentially.
Great advertising.
Oh, this pussy entrepreneur couldn't do your program?
I'm a man entrepreneur, actually.
I sell coffee.
I don't sell real estate.
Whatever.
You know, that's exactly it, though.
Man, I hope this kid's son never reads this article.
I'd be so embarrassed.
Well... God, Dad.
Squire Program.
There's a fix for it.
There's a way to reclaim your family's honor.
You sign up for the Squire Program.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't know if this guy does have a son.
That's just a hypothetical.
But I wouldn't be surprised if the MDK Project were to reach out to his son and be like, Hey, so your dad kind of failed.
Your dad's kind of a failure.
I think that together you guys can do this, though.
Tell him that you really won't love him until you guys finish the Squire program together.
Yeah.
And finish.
So it's going to take more than once.
Yeah, we have, we did take a lot of photos of your father and we are familiar with the ats of all your school friends, so.
Yeah, yeah.
Might want to head this thing off in the past.
Just sign up now.
Is this what you want your future to look like, little buddy?
Two, sometimes in life we have to try things to know what we want and don't want in our lives.
I've often questioned if I shouldn't have gone the military route, and after doing this event I have never been so sure that I did my life exactly the way I should have.
I wouldn't have known that without putting myself out there for this event.
Give me $15,000, I'll tell you not to join the military.
Yeah, that's another obvious thing that this is about.
This is about, like, trying to steal valor.
This is trying to be... doing this... the MDK project is about trying to be as epic as the guys you fucking jerk off every day without, like, actually doing anything...
Like, without, you know, theoretically, like, helping somebody or helping secure freedom or dedicating your life to a cause or whatever the rationale behind signing up for the military.
Just none of that.
I just want to be, like, as cool.
I like this guy, though, because he went through it and it, like, it gave him a newfound appreciation for our souls.
Like, I think everybody should have to go through.
I think we should make this free.
And force everybody to go through it so they'll know what Seal Team Six went through.
I think that should be how you get to the voter booth.
You have to go through this to get to the voter booth.
No, but the best part about this, like you said, it's this weird stolen valor, but what's even worse is...
If you want to, you can become a Navy SEAL.
As a citizen, you can just qualify.
You can just train and take the test.
Most Navy SEALs are actually just rich dudes who have the time and the means to train themselves.
Is that true?
Where are you getting that from?
From the Navy SEAL site.
Most of us are rich guys.
Well, no, I watched a thing about Navy SEAL training a long time ago.
Yeah, you train and you can just kind of qualify for it.
A lot of these people, they were not military people before.
A lot of them were ex-cops and stuff like that, though.
So you can just do that.
You can become a Navy SEAL if you want.
It's super hard, obviously, but it's not this either.
That's the thing.
So you have to weigh your options.
And I'm weighing my options here.
Do I join the Navy Seals?
Do I become a force for imperialism?
Do I do that for four years before just selling a book about how I'm the guy who killed Soleimani or whatever?
Or do I pay $15,000 to only do it once?
Like honestly, I don't know which one is worse.
For me, like personally.
Like there's one that's worse for the world and it's the former.
It's being an actual Navy SEAL is definitely worse for the world.
But for me personally, I don't know which one I would rather do.
But I think if you really sit with most of these guys, you can do the Capital One commercial and be like, you know, crawling through pits and rocks, $15,000.
Training and dedicating your life and then being able to eventually actually kill somebody with impunity?
Priceless.
Three right here.
I have never been more grateful for the men and women of the military and what they go through for the rest of us.
Thank you.
Man, it's just a grift all the way down.
It's just a grift for like the military itself.
Is the military industrial complex like behind the MDK project?
I mean, I know that there's X Marines, X Navy SEALs in that project.
I think it's just like the natural, just like where you're going to go in America is cashing in on the military-industrial complex, whether they have a hand in it or not.
What I was suffering through for just that one night, I imagine the soldiers in Vietnam, World War II, and all the other wars was much worse and for years at times.
I remember hearing stories about the Civil War soldiers not having shoes in the winter.
I can't imagine.
I just honor them.
What?
It's essential to have a... I love this one.
This is my favorite.
Four, it's essential to have a big why with everything you do.
So, W-H-Y.
In this case, my why was simply to have a cool experience and see what it was like.
So, this is what you're gonna get if you let Rex Shepard or whatever this guy's, Jimmy Rex, if you let Jimmy Rex coach your life.
One of the most important lessons he's gonna tell you is, oh, you always have to have a why for everything you do.
And you're like, do you mean like a reason?
No, no, no.
A reason would actually be more than just a cool thing to do.
So this is just a why.
It does not qualify as a reason or justification, which is why, you know, a cool thing to do qualifies as such.
My program consists of thinking about what you want to do and then doing it.
Having a reason.
Having a reason for everything you do.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
Hold on.
Before you do this, have you really asked yourself, is this going to be sick?
Have you really asked yourself that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's the chances of me getting pitted in this situation?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's the likelihood of getting pitted?
I didn't have a big enough why so ultimately I failed.
See this is he's a big man he's admitting he had a little why.
What's the hypothetical why to finishing that?
Like it would have felt like I was a Navy SEAL.
I mean so many of these guys are like At the end of their ropes.
Emotionally.
I don't know if spiritually is the right word, but like they honestly they're like fucking divorced, miserable.
They have insane daddy issues.
Like if you read interviews with people who did this.
They're lonely.
They're lonely as hell.
Like real problems that people have regardless of, you know, whether you're rich.
It's just these people happen to be rich enough to like throw $15,000 at the wall and see if this helps the bottomless pit of despair in my chest.
The real prize is I've seen when they hand out the awards, I've seen hugs.
I've seen some of the instructors will give you a quick, a quick hug.
It's a one-arm hug, but they give you a quick little squeeze and that's kind of worth it for me.
Okay, I want to get through the rest of this interview because we have a lot of fun stuff to cover.
It's important to listen to your body and sometimes you have to get your ego out of the way.
I told myself before I went that I wouldn't quit no matter what.
I know myself.
I know I can push through a lot of pain.
As I was sitting there, I realized I had to think that permanent damage to my knee just to prove I was quote, man enough to push through this was going to be a decision I would regret for the rest of my life.
It wasn't worth getting injured any worse.
I don't think I've done it justice about how difficult this event was.
This was the 12th session of men, and on the 5th session, a guy actually died.
They have a memorial axe in his honor hung up in the classroom.
Do you think they just threw it at the wall?
Do you think they threw the axe at the wall?
I hope it's sticking out of the wall.
Yeah, I hope that's what it is.
And by memorial axe, it's just an axe.
But they say that's what it is.
This is the one.
It happened, he says it happened like on the fifth session, which is really early on.
And they were like, fuck it, we'll keep doing it, and they've done seven since.
I couldn't find any more information about this guy who supposedly died during a session.
There is a guy who committed suicide afterwards.
Not gonna 100% blame the MDK Project for that.
Again, you probably have some issues if you're beginning this thing in the first place.
The MDK Project did a GoFundMe for him and raised like $40,000.
That is so interesting.
That's the only word I can think for that.
That's cool, but did you also give him his $15,000 back?
Does that $45,000 include the $15,000 that each person gives you?
You know, we would have, but he signed that contract that says that there's no way that we'll ever do that no matter what.
I mean, yeah, absolutely.
So I wanted to read some promotional material from the website for the Million Dollar Night project.
What does it mean to be a man?
If men want to understand the answer to this question, and if they're serious about getting what they want from life and finding out how to get people to treat them with the respect they feel they deserve.
Hmm.
They don't need to look any further than nature because nature never lies.
It's true.
Yeah.
I love where we're going with this.
Nature never lies.
The picture to the left depicts a chimpanzee and a bonobo ape on the right.
When you understand the difference between these two creatures, you'll know why some men can walk into a room and instantly command presence and respect, and why others are hardly ever noticed or acknowledged.
Chimpanzees exist in an environment where resources are scarce.
This forces a chimp to compete to secure the respect of the other male chimps.
Male chimps don't accept disrespect.
It's not uncommon for one to kill another to defend his honor in the pack.
Weak chimps don't get to mate or eat, so they die out, and evolution takes its role in creating strong, dominant chimps.
Bonobos, on the other hand, exist in an environment where resources are plentiful.
Bonobos are able to relax, and they don't need to compete for status, because why bother?
For the bonobo, life's comfortable.
Any fights that do break out are usually stopped by the female bonobos and abruptly forgotten.
Sex- This is sounding so familiar.
My god.
It's like I'm reading my life story right now.
What is this?
Yeah.
Sex is readily available- Okay, never mind.
Sex is readily available- I'm just kidding.
And most of their time is spent masturbating and playing around.
Hell yeah, get it!
Kings!
You're making a... I mean, you're not doing a real good job here.
You're making a pretty good case for the bonobos.
The way of the bonobo is based on weakness, pleasure, full-time relaxation, and fun.
Why am I telling you this?
The sad truth of today's society.
The world we exist in today seems to be more in line with the way bonobos live their lives.
Yeah, totally, man.
I would look around and say that, yeah, our society is based on pleasure, full-time relaxation, and fun.
100%.
That's definitely the reality that we live in.
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously, it's because of all of our bountiful resources.
We are not gone for wanting.
We have everything at our fingertips, just like the bonobo.
Isn't, like, violent crime at an all-time high?
Isn't that what we're supposed to believe?
Yeah, aren't you also saying that?
This is such lazy political analysis because yeah it's based on nothing.
It's like that edgy 12, 13 year old mindset of like everybody's just lazy and drifting through life and it's very like 1980s punk rock type political analysis where it's just like oh Americans are just fat and lazy.
Yeah, and that's why we're soft.
I haven't had to tear another person apart for a mate.
I haven't had to do that.
So that's why we're all so weak.
Um, but like, what's the, like, I don't know.
Imagine this shirt, you know, be the chimpanzee in a room for Lobonobos.
Yeah.
You know, good, good try bud.
Well, there is that shirt where it's the monkey dressed up in the, it's the hit man monkey dressed up in a tuxedo, like holding a gun and a cigarette.
And it's like, what is it?
Act like you're the last monkey to get on the arc and brother, it's starting to rain.
Starting to rain.
Yeah.
This guy was like, oh, that's sick.
I'm going to write seven paragraphs about that in this website.
but for the majority of human existence, we lived in a world more aligned with the way chimps live their life.
Exactly wrong. - Yeah. - Like, society has never been more independent than it is right now, at least in America.
Whatever social safety net you think exists now in America existed like times 100, 1000 when we were living in like villages and shit like that.
Yeah.
There was an actual, like, cooperative social network that limited the amount of work that everybody had to do.
But they don't think that.
They only think... History is... To these people, history is all war.
It's never been not war.
Like, there was no... You were never a farmer.
You were only a Viking.
You know, there was only... It's only that.
That's the only way... All the time before... Jesus died, and then it was war.
Yeah, which is just again like such a, you know, I'm no historian, but I know enough to know that humanity only survived because we depended on each other is because we aided and assisted and helped each other.
And that has been like utterly ground out of Western culture.
Even like in in religion it's it's not even present in like the supposed teachings of Christ anymore as we as again we discussed in the Patreon last week.
It's only in the past hundred years or so that weakness, pleasure, full-time relaxation and fun have become part of our society.
It's no wonder why so many men feel lost in this world with comfort and weakness.
So that's like the argument that this guy has to make is that life is so easy right now and that's why you're miserable.
Yeah.
You're not miserable because you're part of a fucking financial system that Implores you to exploit other people non-stop getting a higher return every year until you die as Like a measure of your worth.
Oh, it's because you're actually it's actually too easy.
Everything is just handed to you Yeah, and that's and that's why you're you have a soul sickness What's wrong, little buddy?
I don't know, man.
Things are just too chill.
I worked hard, I partied harder, and I chilled even harder.
And now, I don't know if I can cash more checks and break more necks.
It's become monotonous.
Every day feels like the last, and there's a pit in my heart that I can't seem to fill.
OK, cool.
Do you want to get tortured for a couple days?
Yeah, that might make me feel something.
I like that.
Really?
I think that's... you know, for the people who aren't, like, just incredibly lonely and suffering from, like, a total lack of self-worth or a place in society or whatever, For the other people, I think there is like a genuine, like, oh, I deserve to be punished.
I deserve to suffer.
Or I am going to suffer in the future when eventually they like tie me to a stake and run me out of town.
You know what I mean?
Like there's going to be a future suffering and it might as well like get prepared for it.
Yeah.
Might as well learn what that's all about.
And maybe they delude themselves into thinking if they go through this, they'll be more capable Of handling the fallout to the system that they've been driving for the last 30 years?
Yeah.
Maybe.
That's really delusional though because again the idea of a 75 hour program offering anything to you other than a permanent injury?
Dude I took MMA for like six months on a weekly basis and I still I couldn't fucking I can't do anything like what are you talking you you did an hour you did an hour class where you hit each other with like beanbags man what the fuck are you talking about?
I feel like the marketing, the real marketing of like the MDK you know school is going to like mixers and like things like that and just you know you and I would go there together and we would just talk real loud about like Oh yeah, we're just getting like, basically we're training like the next form of elite men.
You know, we need, society's weak and we're training men to be better men.
But we only really like invite the manliest men who could do that.
And then like, manly man would hear that and be like, I'm a manly man.
And then we would just, you know, it'd be over.
They would have to do it.
Cause he'd be like, you would say this, this proves that you're a man.
Dude, you look great!
You're such a man!
What's going on?
Oh, I just completed my third round of the MDK project, you know?
That's why I'm feeling so jacked and confident.
You're dick hard right now!
Yeah, it hasn't actually stopped since I was dragging it through concrete shards and railroad tracks.
That's what it is though.
This is like you're paying for the certification process.
You're not paying for any of the instruction or training or like programming or anything.
You're just paying for the quiz you take at at the end of the line.
That's exactly what this is because yeah if you don't if you don't like already do all this shit it's there's a slim chance like It sounds like half of every class doesn't finish.
Half of every class, like, washes out.
Hell yeah.
So it's no wonder why so many men feel lost in this world filled with comfort and weakness.
Again, this is on the website.
The Modern Day Knight Project website.
Trust me, I understand the loneliness that comes with entrepreneurship.
Even though we go to conferences, networking events, and are around our employees all the time, we're still not surrounded by people who understand us.
It's like, yeah, it's like alone in a crowd.
Like, for real, I feel that.
It's like, okay, yeah, sure, I'm here with like a hundred people.
I underpay, but like, am I, are they really people?
Would they still be friends with me if they didn't have H-1B visas?
This is so sad.
Like, maybe the MDK Project can save Kanye.
Maybe that's, maybe that's what he needs.
I think he might need the MDK Project.
Uh, these shirts they make all the candidates wear look like something Kanye could have designed because it's just a white shirt with your last name in all caps, uh, black print.
It's hard.
It's good.
Good look.
Um.
We're still not surrounded by people who understand.
It's just, God, it's so lonely in the entrepreneurial world.
You know, you should join the fake Navy SEALs.
That'll definitely get you some friends.
A brotherhood focused on helping men break through their limiting belief systems, which suppress their universe-given superpowers.
So, we're definitely feeling like a cult territory here.
This would be a cult with everything that's going on here, except again it only lasts for 75 hours.
So you're giving a cult-like devotion to this program that is going to kick your ass out the door.
You don't even get the friends afterwards!
No.
I bet you think people have the logo tattooed on them?
The MDK logo tattooed on them?
They probably have it fucking branded onto them.
Someone's probably written a book about going through this.
Oh man, good book topic, going through the MDK program and being the candidate who finally does kill the lead instructor and then writing a book about it.
What's the Patreon goal to get us to go do the MDK project?
Oh man, well it's gotta be at least $30,000.
It had to be at least $30,000, yeah!
Yeah, if we get to $30,000 a month, we'll do the MDK project every month.
And we'll do at least 13 hours of it.
We got our lease alpha fucking... what's his name?
Yeah, totally.
Jimmy Dean.
Oh, if you wash out, they will let you take the challenge again, do the project again for only $3,000.
Oh, really?
That's cool.
Okay, this is sustainable.
We can do this.
If you give up early, they'll be like, all right, you can try again for $3,000.
That doesn't make you like question the value of the first $15,000?
This leads us to the founder, Bedros.
I'm not sure how to pronounce his last name.
Bedros, who apparently got his start selling online supplements.
Hell yeah.
He is a Armenian immigrant whose family supposedly fled communism to come to America so they could start eating out of dumpsters, is what he says.
Wow.
It's very funny to be like, oh, we're fleeing the tyranny of communism to the, to America where we can be free to eat out of the dumpster.
Yeah.
I guess it's kind of just like, it's one of those things where I don't know if they realize they're kind of telling on themselves when it's like, oh, we were able to, we were kind of, we can afford to flee.
Um, but then you got to start fresh over here because all of your riches went to that kind of thing.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
Well, only in America.
Sure, you might start off eating out of the dumpster, but then eventually you can build a network of gym franchises exploiting stupid rich people with zero reason to live.
And then you can be worth like 200 million dollars or whatever this guy, I think he's worth around.
Somewhere around that.
People, when they see this stuff, they're like, oh, this is like a cult.
This is a death cult.
And it's like, well, yes, it would be if it didn't last only three days.
The system that created this project is a death cult, for sure.
Another fear you might hear about this MDK project is like it's fascist.
It's incredibly fascist.
And it's like, well, yeah, it's based on the US military.
So of course, it's a bunch of vigilantes imagining that they're going to fulfill the purpose of the military on domestic soil.
So yes, it's fascist.
But It's again only three days.
These people are not learning anything.
They're getting fucking hurt.
Their bodies are deliberately being damaged.
This is not going to produce a team of fascist super soldiers whatsoever.
It does use fascist language though.
I can't remember who said it.
It was either Bedros or the lead instructor Ray Cashcare.
Who said, our program is no different than doctors administering chemotherapy to a cancerous part of the body.
What?
It's completely different.
What?
Also, again, pretty, pretty worthless if you're only going to do it once.
You can't just do one chemo treatment and be fine.
That's not how it works.
You do, like, Six months worth of chemo in one dose and then you get really hurt by it.
That's like the perfect analogy for it.
God, I hope no one reads that who like is like, you know, just got diagnosed with cancer and they're trying to do, they're also going through like a midlife thing at the same time and they're like, this is going to be the one.
So I did, I did your program.
Um, and I, I still, instead I still got it.
What's going on with that guys?
Oh, the difference between the MDK Project and chemotherapy is your hair already has to have fallen out to join the MDK Project.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so the lead instructor of the MDK Project is a man named Ray Cash Care.
Cash being his nickname.
He is a... No.
Yeah, his Instagram name is Ray Cash Care.
He is a CIA contractor and former Navy SEAL.
Steve Eckert is a U.S.
Marine who is like another one of their main instructors.
In an interview with Vice News, he said, men are either on one end of the spectrum, the two extremes, either they think they have to be rah, rah, rah, kill, fuck, pillage, Or, since they think that's so horrible, they're soft and weak and not speaking up.
Passive-aggressive, afraid to show who they really are, says Eckert.
But either way, you're not allowed to be a man anymore.
You're almost a racist if you're a man these days.
It's crazy.
What?
Well, I just get called a racist so much and I assumed it's because how much of a man I am.
It's because I keep on running around saying, you know, kill fuck pillage.
People call me like a racist.
It's really... I don't understand.
So the thing is... So weird.
He's like pretending to want to be a reasonable moderate.
Like, oh, the reasonable position lies somewhere in the middle.
But like with all reasonable moderates, he's actually very firmly on the right-wing extreme.
Because when he says, like, uses it as a counterexample, you know, men shouldn't run around saying, rah, rah, kill, kill, or whatever.
Literally one of the chants they have to say is kill.
Amazing.
It's like the equivalent of like, yes sir, they have to say kill as a response to part of their programming when they're belly crawling in the mud or whatever.
If somebody says kill, you have to say kill!
I'm gonna kill this mud!
Imagine if I were to like start a program next week, right?
And, um, it was a thing where people pay $1,000 for us to come do like really gnarly, uh, aggressive training, um, and do even like some gun training.
Um, and, and one of the chance were to be, we would say kill.
Now remember this program, I didn't tell you this part, but it's all black people.
It's exclusively black men.
Uh, imagine how long that, imagine how long that, that program is allowed to last.
That sounds fine.
That sounds cool.
Now everyone yells kill.
Go for it.
It would just be like video in Breitbart's Instagram feed.
Like 27 squares of Tony Boswell.
That would be all the marketing I'd need to.
It'd be awesome.
So if anyone wants to... No, I don't even need to invest in it.
I just need to book the first one and I will have so much money.
Okay, the firearms instructor for the MDK Project is Matt Schneider, a former police officer and a SWAT operator is what they call him.
They call him a SWAT style operator.
They have a chaplain.
The MDK Project has a chaplain whose name is Aaron.
In case I die, I need to be prayed over.
His name is Era Alejandrino, who is also the MMA instructor.
Hell yeah.
I love that.
What a cerebral character they created.
Like, no, no, no.
I'm not only the one.
I teach you how to pray with your hands and kill with your hands.
That's what I'm here for.
Poet, spiritual warrior, dude.
See, that's a great example of a Sigma male right there.
People wonder, what's a Sigma male?
It's spiritual killer.
Namaste.
Okay, so does everyone want to hear audio of these instructors yelling at the candidates?
Oh, duh.
This is stuff that they posted willingly.
So this is just pulled from their Instagram page.
Quarter of a mile, people are like, oh my god, oh my god, are you kidding me?
I'm not even breaking a sweat yet.
And I don't want to hear it because you did a 302.
Stop.
It's not that hot out.
Okay, so they're in Southern California, uh, in, in just, yeah, hills all wearing backpacks and they're matching white shirts with their last name.
These are, by the way, these are like tactical army style backpacks carrying, holding the sledgehammers, standing around like panting while, uh, Cash yells at them that it's not that hot out.
There's more to this video.
You had months to train for this?
Again, we are not providing the training.
This is not about training.
You had months to train for this.
Steve.
You had months to train for this.
Again, we are not providing the training.
This is not about training.
This is about us fucking torturing you and punishing you.
I love, I mean, the funny thing about that is like, there's some truth to that.
If you're going into this thing and at a quarter mile you're, like, over it, you're fucked.
You're fucked.
And, like, yeah, you did have a month to train for this, like... But a lot of people probably show up, they're thinking, well, no, I'm, like, I'm, like, a fit dude.
Yeah.
I can do this, no problem.
That's, yeah, that's... I'm a cop, I'm on my feet all day.
Yeah.
Hello?
Yeah.
Steve gives you a program.
I know because he trains me.
You better be thanking God you don't have him, or Julian, or Aaron, one of the gazelles up here.
You have my old ass.
They'll kill you.
That's why I start this off.
Keep up with me, or things are going to get bad real quick.
Do you understand?
Yes, sir.
Get in line.
You, get in the back.
Quarter of a mile.
He just yelled it.
He yelled at some guy.
He said, you get in the back.
I'm sick of your fucking face.
I love that.
Fuck you, basically.
Okay, here's another video I really liked.
Get fucking lying!
It's your last fucking warning!
The fuck is wrong with you?
All right, so they're just in a parking lot.
And they all look pretty dirty.
And they're holding their sledgehammers.
And they have their backpacks on.
And Ray Cash Care is pacing around them really mad about the line.
The line wasn't good enough, or something.
Ray Cashcare looks like a caricature of who this person is.
GET THE FUCK IN LINE!
It's your last fuckin' warning!
The fuck is wrong with you?!
It's the second fuckin' time I said it!
Don't look at me with your thousand yards stare, it ain't gonna fuckin' work!
One of the guys is like, having trouble breathing.
He's like, he's like, doubled over coughing.
That's not in line, that's not in line.
Thousand yards stare, it ain't gonna fuckin' work!
Get your shit fuckin' squared away!
This is why fucking motherfuckers like you got the divorces and your fucking wives leave you!
You can't get your shit straight!
It's the second fucking- Love that.
Love that.
Oh my gosh.
Right at the fucking jugular, man.
And they paid him $15,000 to be like, yeah, I'm signing up for this program because I'm divorced.
And he's like, great.
That'll come in very handy.
Thank you.
Good to know.
We actually have an ex-wife package where we make a montage of you finishing everything.
And we send it to her.
Show her that you're a real man now.
This!
Get in line!
This is why your son stole your vehicle and drove it straight into a mini mall!
There's like one guy in line who's like, fuck.
Whoa.
Oh, fuck.
He's crying.
It's, it's so, he has the whole thing, right?
He's such a fucking alpha bro.
He has a beard, like a nice, like big, big beard.
He's got the barber haircut.
He's 5'3 and, and just so jacked.
And he is so jacked.
So like, yeah, he's like, he's like a bodybuilder guy.
That's like the thing, though, that works for him, because the big guys there are like, this guy's yelling pretty confidently at 5'3", he must be a madman.
Don't mess with him.
Don't mess with him, you know?
And it's effective.
This guy is a lot more intimidating than the rest of them.
And I like the one, he's like, DON'T YOU FUCKING LOOK AT ME WITH THAT THOUSAND YARD STARE, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK!
And the guy was like, yes sir.
Like, you're just trying to find something to criticize?
Don't look at me!
What do you mean work?
Like, what was gonna work?
Was it gonna... Remember when Tony... Who's the influencer?
The self-help guy?
The tall guy?
Tony Robbins?
Tony Robbins, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's him.
He brings, like, a young woman on stage.
And she's, like, talking to him.
And then he's like, Oh, stop doing that thing with your hair because it's not gonna work on me.
And she's like, what thing with my hair?
And he's all, don't play stupid.
I know exactly what women do.
I thought you were talking about the time when he made the woman break up with her boyfriend on the spot.
She was like, call him.
Call him right now.
Break up with him.
What a fucking genius, man.
Yeah.
What a master.
These people are begging for stuff like that.
Begging for you to do stuff like that to them.
More of this video.
All right, we count again, I'm gonna take off all your fucking clothes, and I'm gonna drag you up and down this fucking thing.
You better be the dumbest fuckers I've ever met.
Last fucking time!
What was that threat?
I'm gonna take your fucking clothes and drag you up this and down this fucking...
Like he's going to drag you naked on these things?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your dick skin will get ripped off.
Yeah.
Ouch.
This is why your wife's divorced you.
It's like not even an own.
It's like, no, literally, you're divorced and it's because you're a fucking loser.
Yep.
Exactly.
Because you're too stupid to get in line.
Okay, finally, I finally wanted to address some other previous or just potential candidates.
People interested in joining the MDK Project or people who have joined the MDK Project and learning what we can from them.
On Reddit, this is for people who want to push themselves beyond what they are capable of.
This isn't, quote, basic training.
It's live SEAL training, and it ain't easy.
Damn near anyone can make it through basic training.
Not this.
If you pass, I was in a class, parentheses, I was in a class of 25, four got injured, five quit.
Jeez.
You get to join a network of other people who have completed the course.
It's all kinds of people, from CEOs to people like me who work in niche manufacturing.
So I think that it's all kinds of people who have $15,000 to blow on just a totally fraudulent self-help, self-actualization scheme.
So I think the networking is also a big part of the cost.
Plus, it's real training.
No, it's not.
Again.
No.
You go through tactical training with firearms and everything.
They're like...
Dragging these people up and down hills for like 12 hours and then they put a gun in their hand.
For $15,000, I better be able to shoot a gun I usually can't shoot.
I better be able to shoot a gun from a helicopter.
Yeah, full auto or nothing.
Yeah.
The last aspect of this I wanted to talk about was something I found while doing research.
Did you ever watch Survivor, Tony?
No, I'm familiar, but I didn't really watch it now.
Neither did I. Not really my cup of tea.
You know, like, again, you couldn't get me to enjoy this stuff for free.
I don't know why anyone would think I would pay for it.
There's a man who is maybe part of the MDK Project or just really wants to be, whose name is Joe Anglum.
Joe Anglum is a former Survivor contestant.
Uh, he's got a couple hundred thousand followers on Instagram, and I think he even married another survivor contestant from one of the years that he was on.
Her name is Sierra something.
So...
This guy was like in on the ground floor of the MDK project about two years ago.
Apparently he's like a QAnon guy as well.
This was like around the same time as his as his foray into QAnon, I believe, which makes a lot of sense.
He was posting intermittently about the MDK project.
He may have done it multiple times by how much he posted about it.
He was posting like promo... I've gone through it more than once.
I think he was trying to be an instructor.
I think he was trying to work his way into the program.
I don't see his name anywhere on the program and his most recent posts aren't about the MDK Project so I don't think it was successful.
The posts he made about MDK Project are some of the most enlightening ones I saw while doing this research because these are Instagram posts.
So one of One of the posts I'm looking at here are the candidates sitting in a circle, cross-legged, all wearing their white t-shirts with their last name in block letters on the front.
Again, cross-legged.
I believe they're doing a breathing exercise here, as in a... what is the, like...
The Wim Hof?
It's called something breathing.
Targeted breathing or controlled breathing.
Something.
It's like new age Silicon Valley shit.
It's like meditation or whatever.
They're all doing this in a circle cross-legged while the chaplain slash MMA instructor stands watch over them wearing all black and sunglasses.
Very disturbing photo.
I loved it.
It's a weird photo.
It feels very cult-y.
It's like the second most cult-looking thing I saw during research for this episode.
The most cult-like thing I saw is coming up.
This other photo I loved, which is just an instructor spraying a hose nozzle point-blank into the mouth and nose of Joe Anglum while he just stands there.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Waterboarding him while he's standing up.
Not even like a towel over your face.
It's not like simulating suffocation.
It's simulating getting water sprayed up your nose.
Yeah, that's not even fun.
You're not even going to the drowning, you just have that awful stinging feeling.
By far the most unhinged post I saw just in general about the MDK Project was Joe Anglum posting photos of him digging his own grave for the MDK Project.
Man, I mean, like, maybe that's what's wrong with me.
Maybe I just need to, like, look death in the eye by, like, digging in my own grave.
You know?
Under, like, some vague threat of violence.
Like, that's kind of the whole point.
There's like a vague threat of violence, right?
There's an implication.
The whole time that guy was yelling at him, he's like, this is the last time I'm going to warn you.
It's kind of like, oh, okay, so what are you going to do?
Are you going to, like, are you going to hit me?
What's going to happen?
But there is that, like, kind of a vague threat of violence the whole time.
Totally.
And it's totally, like, manipulative of these people.
Like, these people were in the military.
They were in The Marines or the Navy SEALs, they know how to manipulate, like, people below their rank.
That's the whole point.
That's the whole, like, purpose of your rank is to manipulate those people.
You know?
They know how to do this shit.
So it is very real, even if it is, like, voluntary.
You're still, like, activating something primal, or whatever you would call it, biological, like, in the back of someone's mind when you're screaming in their face.
That's just gonna generate a response no matter what.
But, part of this program apparently is you dig your own grave.
You dig your own grave, including a body- you place plastic in the grave and get zipped up into a body bag, and then the instructors dump dirt on you.
That's so- that's terrifying.
That's so fucking weird.
This is, it's so fucking funny, man.
It's like, it's awful, and it's terrifying, and it serves no purpose!
It's like fake as fuck!
It's like, we're gonna bury you alive so that when, when you, you know what it, you know what it's like to survive.
Or, or you, you killed your old self, and now you're being born anew, and it's, that's fake!
That's so fake!
Imagine, like, going through this and kind of having an awakening and you, like, get zipped up in the body bag and the dirt starts covering you and you feel the pressure in your body and you get a little boner.
Wow, yeah.
And you're like, oh, uh-oh.
Oh no.
Uh-oh.
I don't know what to do with this.
I love just an instructor walking up to you and, like, pointing a gun at your forehead and pulling the trigger but it's a blank.
Yep.
And him being like, remember that.
Don't ever forget that.
Oh yeah, I won't forget because I peed myself, which is fine because I was already soaking wet.
So no one actually knows I peed myself.
Yeah, okay, you signed up for $15,000 for the MDK program.
We're going to teach you what it's like.
To be a real man, we're going to make you pick up this Brazil nut off the floor with your butt cheeks, and you're going to walk it over to the other side of the room.
It's like, oh, yes, sir.
And you're going to drop it into your friend's mouth, and he's going to drop one into your mouth.
Coming the other way, though.
It's like they're just pranking you.
There's no purpose to this whatsoever.
Oh, we've passed the buried alive part of the program.
Like you're not even fighting your way out.
You're not even doing like a cool Kill Bill Uma Thurman thing of fighting your way out.
Yeah, you're surrendering and they put dirt on you.
Yeah, they don't teach you how to survive being buried alive.
That's not the course.
I love the professional grade of these photos, too.
They're really good photos.
They're, like, really dramatically lit.
They look like ad photos.
I love the one, the photo of just him zipped up in the body bag, laying like a hot dog on a 7-Eleven rack.
His kids saw that and were, like, really sad for a moment.
They were scared.
Dad!
Dad, you're dead?
Am I looking at you dead right there?
That's it for the episode.
Wow.
Just, like...
Gnarly, goofy, so gnarly and so goofy at the same time is my takeaway from this.
Joe's most recent post is kind of an encapsulation of the mentality it takes for this because he's doing an endorsement ad for those Burna guns.
They're like airsoft guns that actually have a defense capability.
They look like handguns, They look just like handguns, but they shoot like a pellet at a high capacity.
like a really hard they're being sold to self-defense thing and they they cost as much as guns and they look just like guns sick yeah this is now this is just like fucking non-alcoholic drinks being as expensive as their alcoholic counterpart yeah Or like more expensive, which rocks, you love that.
But it's like you're paying an exuberant amount for a fake version of the real thing.
Which is what they're doing in this.
Absolutely.
You've done this training, and now when you get into a standoff with somebody with a gun and you have your Berna Technologies gun, it's just as good as your 72-hour SEAL training.
So good luck with that, bud.
That's kind of the synthesis of all this, is the Berna gun.
I think that's the same mentality.
Totally, what a perfect way to say it.
Okay, really quickly, there's a very important photograph that I found while doing research for this show that we forgot to mention.
That same guy, Joe Anglum, the survivor contestant who is shilling very hard for them, at least in 2019, 2020, and even 2021.
One of the photos he posted is of him on his knees with his hands behind his back while an instructor grabs the top of his hair and holds a buck knife to his throat.
Oh my god, yeah, that one.
Holy shit, that's him?
I can't believe that's real.
Look at it, it's in our iMessage conversation.
It's the most nuts one, I think.
I mean, him in the body bag, it's like, he's like, like, remember when, what's her name, Heidi Klum dressed up as a worm for Halloween on the red carpet?
She was just laying there as the worm.
Yeah, it's like he's doing that, but in a body bag, just laying on the ground.
This one is because the instructor is also wearing camo, but it's like, 1990s forest camo and it's a tank top?
It's like a, like a Old Navy, uh, A-shirt that's camo print.
And then probably the pants aren't even real.
No, no.
He's wearing three different camos that are all the same camo, but they're different shades because it's like wearing three different shades of black and his face.
Joe's face.
Joe, Joe Anglum's face.
Who's on his knees.
Yes.
Go ahead, Tony.
Every time I've seen someone making this face, the only reason you make this face is because you're waiting to just get it painted with cum.
That's the only reason you make that face.
That's the only reason that face is happening.
Eyes closed, mouth kind of open with almost like a smile.
He looks like he's making this noise.
This is the noise he's making.
yeah his eyes are closed his mouth is upturned his mouth is like slightly open he's got a very disturbing mustache yeah it's it's just not this is not like this is not a good look this i mean you This guy with the knife, we talked about the, you know, implied threat of violence, but I guess they were like, no, we'll fucking cut your throat.
This looks, you know, we've flirted about it.
This knife is not even a real knife.
If you look at like the, the handle.
It's a real knife.
I mean, no, I mean, it's okay.
It's an actual, it's an actual knife.
What I meant was it's kind of like has a bit of like a, um, Like a fantasy knife element?
Yes.
If you look at the handle, it has like bat wings almost on it.
It looks like Krull the Conqueror's sword, but a knife form because it's got the hand guard or the hilt guard or whatever it's called.
Yeah, forks up.
He definitely got this at a knife store.
That's where he got this thing from.
And yeah, I mean, you can't really say any more about it.
It's, it's in our feed.
Go look at it.
Go look at all these, all the photos from this episode.
Um, we, we flirted with it.
We danced around it about this being, Oh, it's a sexual thing, or it's a degradation thing.
Or this is like, this photo looks like it came from a sex cult.
There's no other way to like, explain this to yourself.
Yeah, I'm going to show this to some people and they're going to be like, oh yeah, I know that face.
