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So, today I wanted to start off the show with something that I've been really eager to talk about.
Most, well, both because it's a genuinely good thing.
It's something that's, like, shockingly good that I didn't really think was possible.
And it, you know, it hasn't happened yet, but It's a pretty big, it's a pretty big gambit, if it does.
And of course, you know, I'm talking about California's plan, Gavin Newsom's plan for California to start manufacturing insulin and selling it for, I think, $35 a vial and making it available to anyone, regardless, regardless of insurance, regardless, I'm assuming, regardless of immigration status.
And probably regardless of residency.
Hopefully, there'll be some sort of online portal where people from out of state can buy it.
That would be beautiful.
And you know what's going to be really funny about this?
If this works, it will be effective and they will make a lot of money off of this.
And maybe they'll show like, oh, there's a different plan.
I mean, I'm being really optimistic here.
But that is what's going to happen.
They're going to make tons of money off of this cheap insulin.
And that's good for us.
Well, Supposedly it's going to be sold at cost because the price point is going to be $35 and Gavin Newsom... Is that really the cost?
Well, Gavin Newsom, in his statement, said something about how it's going to be high paying jobs producing it.
So hopefully there'll be living wages associated with the manufacture of this particular insulin, which I'm sure is not the industry standard.
I'm sure there's a lot of people working for 12 bucks an hour in the supply, in the insulin supply chain.
Yeah.
So, I mean this is like, I don't want to overstate it just in case it never happens, but like this is kind of the way forward.
Taking, you know, as long as the workers, as long as we do not have control currently of the means of production, it's a very good sign that the state is willing to decommodify pieces of Just our lives that are that are non-fungible that are not, that's not the word, but that are non-elastic.
These are like non-elastic goods.
Don't bring that word into this.
Please don't bring that word into this because I want this to work.
I want this to be something that we can actually like look forward to and uh not be um not even a flash in the pan.
Oh yeah.
Well, uh, okay.
Yeah.
So, wow.
Cool.
California's manufacturing insulin.
Oh, great.
Well, in Florida, what you can do is you can actually get a link that shows that this, uh, this picture of a vial of insulin is yours and yours alone.
Well, you could, you could just, you could just show your blood sugar levels that picture and they'll be like, Oh, well, hold on.
I didn't realize it was like real.
You take a, I guess I'll stop.
I mean, you take a vial of insulin and it's gone.
You use it, you shoot it up your arm like a fucking junkie or whatever.
I mean, it's gone, right?
It's gone, yeah, done.
Yeah, well, the cloud, the cloud is forever.
The cloud, yeah.
What are those called?
What's the little, the computational cloud, that thing?
Oh, I have no clue.
The blockchain.
The blockchain, yeah, the blockchain is forever.
Yeah, the blockchain's not gonna get sick and die and withdraw from, you know, low glucose levels or whatever.
It's gonna always be there.
But I'm not going to tell you what to do, you know?
Get one to rock, get one to stock, you know?
Live your life.
So, uh, obviously, I'm, you know, this seems like a pretty good thing.
If it actually happens, I'm going to read an article here about it in a second, but I also wanted to talk about it just to see what, how the right would react to this.
Um, this is the only way to actually bring prices down.
You can't like, I mean, the, the, The M.O.
of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party has been, like, tweaks and tax breaks, tax credits, half-assed regulations that can be got around or just, you know, repealed the next administration.
This is the way to actually do it, is to have the state use its power to, as long as you're going to be in a capitalist country, and you're going to have a market, the only way to do this is to compete with the rest of the market.
And if you have a state administrator willing to do that, that's pretty crazy.
I mean, it's still capitalism, but It's going to work.
If we do it, it's going to work.
And you can see this is evidenced in Latin America.
What they're doing with oil in Latin America, what they're doing with supplies of wheat in Latin America, under leftist Leftist administrations.
There was a great interview on Chapo Trap House, a little show maybe some of you people have heard.
Will interviewed Olly Vargas, who was doing some really good reporting in Latin America about, you know, the second pink tide, the second sort of wave of leftist politics that's happening in various countries in Latin America.
And Taking control of their own oil supply.
Mexico is involved in this too.
Taking control of their wheat supply and just dumping wheat.
When inflation goes out of control and capital starts charging way too much for basic commodities, the state's like, oh yeah, we have a ton, literal tons of wheat ready to go onto the market for the normal price it used to be.
So what are you gonna do about it?
Yeah, that fucking rules.
Like, that's not a wild thought.
I mean, people don't realize that, you know, go ahead and play your capitalist card, and like, the thing is, is that economies thrive with stability.
You know, if you can provide some sort of stability, then like, there's gonna be less fallout.
And like, that's a good thing, because stability is better than, you know, than spikes.
But like, they don't want, they can't think of that way, because it's all about that, you know, quick money.
Well, I mean, yeah, the capitalist algorithm doesn't allow for that.
That's not what it's interested in.
It's not interested in stabilizing people's quality of life.
It's interested in maximizing profit.
And sometimes that means a lot of people have to die.
And sometimes that means we're not looking ahead a year or two years into the future.
We're looking at profits right now.
Yeah, but it's like if people aren't worried about their their wheat prices and the gas price and insulin prices, they'll spend a little more on like your Black Rifle Coffee Co shirt and you won't go out of business.
Right.
Exactly.
And that's why we're doing it.
That's why we should be doing this.
To save Black Rifle Coffee Co.
To help those guys out.
Yeah.
So I was just really interested in seeing how the right wing was going to respond to this.
But let's let's read from this article here.
This is CNBC and It doesn't get into details about whether this is going to be like a state-owned manufacturing plant.
That's the big question, because if once again we're doing the whole like, oh, we're subsidizing a business to then produce the insulin, that's like huge red flags.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, for sure.
So CNBC, California's new $100 million plan to make insulin cheaper.
What you need to know.
California will begin making its own low-cost insulin in an effort to make the essential diabetes treatment more affordable, Governor Gavin Newsom announced on Thursday.
Again, I don't trust that wording.
California will begin making its own.
Like that's not specific enough for me, but let's keep going.
Quote, nothing epitomizes market failures more than the cost of insulin, the governor said in a video posted on Twitter.
Many Americans experience out-of-pocket costs anywhere from $300 to $500 per month for this life-saving drug.
You know, more like $3,000 for three months supply is about the average from what I was reading.
And like what he's talking about is even like an almost an insured level.
Right, exactly.
With a budget of $100 million, California plans to, quote, contract and make our own insulin at a cheaper price, close to at-cost, and to make it available to all.
So contract right there, that's a scary word.
It's unclear exactly how expensive.
Incredible.
expensive California's insulin will be or when the low cost drugs will be available.
Insulin in the U.S. costs almost $100 per unit on average.
That's nearly four times the price in Chile, which has the second highest prices among the 34 countries analyzed by the nonprofit Rand Corporation at less than $25 per unit.
Incredible.
So in Chile, it's $25 a unit.
In America it's $100.
Yeah.
And Chile is the second most expensive next to the U.S.
Wow.
Yeah, we're doing great here.
We're doing fantastic.
Also, we have an incredibly high diabetes rate per capita.
So we have a higher need for it, and we're just making it harder to get.
It's disgusting.
I mean, it's supply and demand.
The demand is so high in America.
Why wouldn't they?
That's the algorithm we're plugged into.
They're still eating real food in Chile.
It's not even like that.
It's very rare to sell this.
It's not a big deal here.
Everyone needs it.
We can gouge these people.
And if some of them can't afford it and die, guess how many more of them there are.
Yeah, exactly.
And what's it going to cost them?
An arm and a leg?
That's good.
Yeah, you get that joke.
Currently, four in five Americans in need of insulin have incurred thousands of dollars in credit card debt to pay for the medication, according to a recent survey commissioned by healthcare organization CharityRx.
The average debt among all survey participants was $9,000.
California's program will allot $50 million toward the development of cheaper insulin products and $50 million on an in-state insulin manufacturing facility, Newsom said, adding that the facility, quote, will provide new high-paying jobs and a stronger supply chain for the drugs.
So it sounds like they're going to build a fucking factory, an insulin factory, a California co-insulin factory.
Yeah.
And you know, knowing California, they will actually like build one from the ground up, too.
They won't just like repurpose a building.
But yeah, so that's that sounds I like that.
That sounds good, though.
Hopefully that is what happens.
So the reason that this is so shocking, I mean, it sounds like kind of common sense.
You know, what is what is the state there for if not to act in the public interest?
And this seems like a pretty big interest that the public might have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the reason it's so shocking is because of, yeah, the very next paragraph, which says, it's unclear if any other states plan to follow suit.
In March, the U.S.
House of Representatives passed the Affordable Insulin Now Act, which would cap out-of-pocket insulin costs at $35 per month for Americans with private health insurance and the Medicare prescription drug benefit.
The bill has yet to pass the Senate.
So... Okay, yeah.
Doesn't look that way.
National Democrats, they have a plan to get drug prices down for people who already have insurance, who are already paying exorbitant prices for their insurance.
Oh cool, my insulin's only gonna cost $35 a month.
What about just the bill I have to pay for my private insurance every month regardless of what I use it for?
They're still incurring a regular cost.
It's not going anywhere.
It's not doing what they think it's doing.
And then also, it's not even going to pass.
No.
No, it's not even going to pass.
The shitty National Democrat plan is not even going to pass the Senate.
You never have to hand it to Gavin Newsom, but this looks pretty cool.
I mean, the thing about that whole plan is that you gotta be real.
One of my biggest tips to rise and grind to really get that bag is to just never get sick.
And just don't get any diseases.
That's my biggest tip for success is to just not have any health problems.
That'll fuck the bag up.
That'll fuck the bag up for sure.
Also, get paid under the table.
Don't have a social security card.
Nope.
Try to go through your neighbor's mail.
See if he's been pre-approved for any credit cards.
Yeah, run that.
Run that.
That's a victimless crime.
You know?
Taxes?
We're talking about taxes?
So, I was really interested, obviously, in trying to see how the right wing would respond to this because One thing I was thinking about when I was listening to that interview with Oli Vargas was about how there are like actual things you can do as a state, as a powerful organization, to bring the cost of things like gas down, to bring down gas prices, right?
And what that is, is it's taking control of your own gas industry.
It's nationalizing your gas industry and taking the fucking middleman leeches out of it, who are only just like padding their wallets, lining their pockets with the people's money.
You take them out of the situation and guess what?
You can actually control what the price is.
You can do a reasonable price for these things.
And so, Right now, obviously, in the U.S., we have crazy gas prices.
Yeah, they're outrageous.
Very inflated gas prices.
I guess they're coming down a little bit, but Jesus.
I got excited today about finding 619.
Oh my God.
Are you serious?
I was like, hell yeah, boy.
I didn't even like, I didn't even really need gas.
I just got it.
Cause it was 619.
Is that real?
Or are you, are you being hyperbolic?
I'm not being hyperbolic.
That's a real thing that happened today.
How did it, how high did it get for you?
Um, it was like, it was like, it's like 650 most places.
Oh yeah.
I mean, you wouldn't want it, but if it got up to 666 that you would at least like have a picture to take.
Oh yeah, and then I'm going to be pissed until it gets to $6.90.
But other than that, just give me that at least.
Don't give me this fucking... $6.19 is fun to maybe say almost, but it doesn't quite work.
No.
When the right wing is bleeding about high gas prices, when they're saying, Joe Brandon, you did this.
Do something else.
Make the gas prices lower.
There is a thing that Joe Brandon could do.
Could do, yeah.
You know, he would have to have, like, the backing of the entire Democratic Party, and, you know, it's federal, what do you call it, it's federal polity, politicians, but there's something they could actually do that would drastically lower the prices of gas.
But they'll never do it!
And the right wing knows they'll never do it!
So they can just keep complaining, pretending to complain, about high gas prices, knowing that the Democrats will never call their bluff.
Will never say, call for nationalizing the oil and gas industry.
Because doing so would automatically solve the problem.
I mean, that's not an option because, you know, like, these people who we need to convince to get on board with this are literally getting paid by lobbyists who support these other companies we're trying to take out.
Yeah, or they're like involved with them themselves.
Themselves, yeah, actually, yeah.
Maybe not them, but maybe like a nephew who like has no experience whatsoever, who they just have sit on the board and like vote for them.
Yeah.
You know, that's the, and honestly, I just, that's what I'm saying.
We need more nieces on the board to sit on the board and vote for you.
People are getting close to it.
Like, uh, what's his name?
The actor who played Hank Schrader in Breaking Bad, who was like tweeted out, oh, you want to fucking complain about high gas prices?
That's the free market, motherfucker.
It's what you wanted.
Which one's Hank?
Which one's Hank Schrader?
The shaved head DEA agent.
Oh, okay.
His brother-in-law.
Wow.
I say because the other two fuckers did some like wack shit that I'm not, I'm bummed on.
Bryan Cranston?
What'd Bryan Cranston do?
They started a tequila company, man.
And, like, these tequila companies are just, like, just stripping Mexico of their agave and just, like, giving these not-fair deals to these small communities who are just, like, gonna get bled dry and they're, like, ruining that whole ecosystem that is, like, agave and, like, tequila in Moscow.
And they're one of the other celebrities who started a tequila company.
Two more white guys doing it.
But no, that's cool that someone who didn't do that said something cool.
Yeah, so anyway, formally, the Democratic Party is definitely not going to ever Like, call the bluff of the right wing on stabilizing gas prices.
The only answer that the right wing is ever going to want to hear, and the only answer that the Democrats are ever going to give them, is, oh, we've allowed much more drilling.
We've opened up every wildlife refuge in the country to drilling.
Please, please stop yelling at us.
We got RuPaul to help us out, and you guys are still mad.
I don't understand.
Yeah.
So I was desperate to hear how conservatives were going to respond because that's another complaint that like the right wing and just people in general have had is about the price of insulin, the cost of insulin.
You know, it's up there with like just the cost of health care as a national issue.
And so I was interested to hear how they would respond to a Democratic politician, like, taking that issue actually seriously, right?
Yeah.
The thing is, if you search for California insulin and then name your right-wing publication, you're not gonna find it.
So I searched for stories about this in Newsmax.
I was so eager to hear what the Newsmax readership was gonna say about California produced insulin.
Nothing.
The top hit for California insulin Newsmax is five benefits of snacking on pistachios.
And then I was like, okay, so I struck out.
I struck out with Newsmax.
Let me try Breitbart.
Now Breitbart did actually have an article about this.
The article had one comment.
So somehow Breitbart, like, suppressed their own article, did not promote their own article.
They definitely, to my knowledge, didn't post about it on Instagram.
So somehow they just killed their own article about it which is just bog standard reporting about what Gavin Newsom tweeted out.
The one comment is from Susan who says, oh this sounds so great wonderful and noble dot dot dot so why do I have the nagging feeling there's some kind of quote hook attached to it?
It is after all the state of California we're talking about here.
And I would just say, like, no other state has ever tried to do anything like this, so it's kind of hard to, uh... Like, California's never said they were ever gonna fucking do anything like this.
True, true.
But also, California has never given me insulin either, so I mean, you know, you gotta prove me wrong before you prove yourself right, you feel me?
No, I mean, I don't know if you're joking or not, but that is like a big barrier to socialism or to the state production
of goods the state uh controlling these sorts of things these people have literally and ourselves included americans have literally never seen it happen they've never seen it quote work because they've never seen it tried they've never seen it even attempted it's like a fucking fairy tale to all of us we have no frame of reference for something like this now when you go to latin america on the other hand there have been left-wing administrations
Throughout Latin America's history.
They've been, of course, suppressed and killed and overthrown and cooed throughout the years.
By us.
But they have been there and people have seen material benefits to what a state apparatus can do.
So they, you know, when it comes to a left politician promising things like manufacturing goods and services at an affordable price, There's actually a frame of reference for them to be like, okay.
Yeah.
Sure.
We'll try it.
We'll let you try it.
This time is basically over here.
No, it's, it's nothing.
It's, it's like, it's like trying to look at a magic eye picture without any instructions.
And that's also like why we don't see those things happening.
Because if they show that they can do it, then they were setting an expectation.
Which is exactly why we saw like the, I mean almost malicious failure of execution during anything during this pandemic.
Like that's part of the reason why we saw that.
Yeah.
It's because if they show they can fix these things, if they can help these things out, then we're going to be expecting things from them.
And we're so used to expecting nothing except for, like, you know, the freedom to do it ourselves.
You know, like, then there is no expectation.
So they can keep going as is.
The status quo is fine.
Right.
It's your basic essential weaponized incompetence, you know, wielded by boyfriends everywhere.
Where you're like, uh, Oh yeah, sure.
You know, I'll help you do the dishes.
Is this how I do it?
And you just start throwing plates at the tile and they, and they smash everywhere.
And you know, your girlfriend's like, Oh, you're so silly.
That's what it's like when America lets a million people die.
And it's like, Oh, I didn't know.
Sorry.
You know, what am I supposed to do?
And it's like, I mean, I guess that's just governments, you know?
I mean, fuck.
American citizens are like straight girls complaining about their boyfriends.
Yeah.
Essentially.
Right?
Exactly.
Yeah.
And it's like, well... Why doesn't he do the dishes?
Oh, well, last time he tried to dry the silverware in the microwave and we just can't have that happen again.
So that's why we don't have him do the dishes.
But he is so cute, though.
He's so cute.
And also I can just put him in front of the Xbox while I go around and kill homeless people.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Uh, so yeah, of course they're going to have this reaction, this reaction of like, and I don't blame Susan at all.
Oh, this, you know, I'm skeptical too, Susan.
Okay.
Yeah.
But yeah, again, I searched for California insulin daily wire.
I was really eager to hear what Ben Shapiro had to say about this.
Nothing.
The top, what do you call it, the top results for this are all different news sites than Daily Wire.
And then Fox News?
Fox News had one article about insulin In the last, like, six months, and it's about an insulin shortage.
Insulin shortage might be the next supply chain crisis.
And I will get to that article in just a moment, but they didn't report on Governor, Chairman Newsom's plan to produce insulin.
Shocking.
I'm shocked.
Weird.
Weird.
Some responses to this were great.
This was sent to us by Keith on Instagram.
It's another Instagram post by Punished Dimitri Amiibo.
I don't know what that means.
None of those words are in the Bible.
Couldn't tell you.
It's a screenshot of a Twitter thread.
Our Twitter conversation.
Ariel Kelly says, Breaking!
California just announced that it will manufacture its own insulin.
This will make the drug significantly more accessible and affordable for millions of residents of our state.
And then Wong... Wong Hung Lo says, They will raise taxes and give it away.
Read Atlas shrugged.
Okay.
Yeah, done.
I already read it.
Cool.
Also, yeah, that's what Atlas Shrug says.
I'm good with that.
Yeah, sorry.
That's okay.
I don't agree with your book.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah.
That's an okay outcome for me.
Yeah, Killmonger was right.
Agrees.
Says, good.
I want higher taxes and free health care.
What's your point?
And then Juan Hung Lo responds, I want free pussy too, but I am not getting it.
Just for, I mean, I love, okay, couple things.
There's a lot to do here.
I had a Zoom, you know I had a Zoom in, right?
Sure.
Okay, so, yeah, I mean, I want to see Wong Hun Lo and, like, dog, that's, why aren't you, that's, shut up dude, shut up.
Also, Killmonger was right, I love, I love this person, except for like, they're not, Killmonger was right is like absolutely the right sentiment but you're you're you're a white guy and like that's interesting to me.
But that's fine.
He's amplifying black Marvel voices, Tony.
What more do you want from him?
It's like when I went to go see The Black Panther with a couple of our good white friends, and when Killmonger died, and he told me in the ocean we were talking about my ancestors, I looked and our beautiful, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet white friends were crying.
Hell yeah.
Crying beautiful tears.
Uh, and I was like, oh, oh shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right bet.
Uh, that was that was fun.
So maybe like That's really funny.
But yeah Juan, Juan my guy That's not how this works.
Why, are you, you're just mad because you're not getting any pussy?
Is that why you're mad?
I fucking love it.
You don't want people getting insulin because you can't get pussy?
I fucking love it, man.
Oh, sorry, social, in your utopiast, uh, socialist idea, uh, there's free everything, all free, just free women flowing out of the tap.
Yeah.
Why don't you read Atlas Shrugged and then see how many women want to fuck you for free?
Let's see how that goes.
You see, when people are doing that type of discourse, the should sex work exist under communism discourse, you sound like Juan Hung Lo.
That's what you sound like.
So this is from the Yahoo Finance comment section, which is, yeah, one of the few places you could find an article with comments on it.
There wasn't Facebook.
JustSomeGuy says, I am amazed that this article is not a parody.
California has proven that liberal politicians are unwilling to solve any of the state's problems, whether local or statewide, that haven't solved anything.
And I would agree.
I would say 100%.
California, you got some work to do to win the hearts and minds.
I mean, Most people there will vote for you just because of the color next to your little lapel pin flag, what color your tie is or whatever.
You definitely have some proving to do here.
I was trying to think of like...
A California state victory, like something that I would actually point to and be like, oh, that was actually really good.
And I think it's, I think it's emissions levels.
I think it's like smog.
Smog is the only thing in my lifetime that I think California has actually affected, like made a stand, done drastic action.
And you know what sucks?
What?
It's like all that's going out the window because the way they've allowed warehouse buildings.
Oh cool.
The way they've allowed warehouses and like big rigs to exist, it's literally all being rolled back.
Like since you've left the Inland Empire, we've gone back to those like Orange days.
Nice.
Of like, you can see the smog.
You can like, you can't see, you can't see the mountains around us.
So like, that victory is being rolled back because of like, they're just willing to throw it all away for uh, you know, for warehouses.
You know what a California victory was?
What?
Was, you know, gun control.
When they decided, oh, let's... Oh, hold on, organized black people got the guns.
Let's get rid of those.
Yeah, no, you really have to hand it to Reagan for being so racist that he implemented gun control.
Yeah, exactly.
A real goaded move when it comes to gun control.
Also on Yahoo Finance comment section, Mark says, there is no limit to what these people think they can fix or should be in charge of.
And I would say, no, there's usually an extreme limit to what these people think they can fix or be in charge of.
Often it's left to, hey, we're a capitalist society.
Sometimes babies got to go hungry, right, Pete Buttigieg?
Yeah, it's tough on the streets.
They literally got to eat.
They can't eat.
Ultimately, they really do want to control you and every aspect of your life.
And it's like, oh no, fuck, the government wants to control me by keeping me alive through a medication that I need.
I wish they would take away some of my rights.
I wish they would not let me pay my rent.
Like they would just do it for me.
That'd be cool.
Or like, you know, make me go to the doctor by not having me pay for it.
Yeah, but think about it, Tony.
Okay.
They give you free housing.
They give you free healthcare.
They can just take that shit away.
Oh, shit.
And then where will you be?
Well, I mean, like, if they take it away now, it's my fault, and that's okay.
Like, I know it's my fault, and I can take that.
I can take that, you know, punishment.
But if they take it away for no reason, that would fucking suck.
Just like Americans have such a twisted sense of what control means.
Control is when you have more money to spend on other things.
Control is when you have your needs met.
And you can like, I don't know, go watch a movie or something and not have to worry about dying.
That's a good feeling.
It's like, how can you have control if you're like on survival mode?
Yeah, you can't because your mental health will suffer.
If everything else is precarious, even your mental health is not going to be good.
Yeah.
But Elle responds to this comment, Mark, I'm a conservative and I'm actually all for this.
If the market is going to fleece people who need life-saving medication, I have no problem for government to do something that would change the market.
And I feel like Only a small minority of sick freaks would actually care about the sanctity of the market.
And when I say a small minority of sick freaks, I mean like the people arguing for the right to buy and sell children.
I mean like that level of deranged type person.
That's who actually cares about the market, right?
Murray Rothbard, anarcho-capitalist types.
Even the wealthy, they don't...
They just care about markets.
They just care that they have capital and a market is the best way to increase that capital.
You ask almost any average person, you know, if they see this work, that's going to be huge.
That's going to be a huge fucking deal.
I really hope it does.
I really hope it does.
I like, you know, hopefully I'll have to buy insulin soon and then, you know, I can be part of this and I can help it work.
Just One Uncle says, this is on the Fox News... Oh, you don't have more than one uncle?
Or are you Just One Uncle?
Yeah.
You're asking me to solve these problems, Tony.
You're asking me to... I'm Just One Uncle.
I'm Just One Uncle, man.
Just One Uncle.
This is on the Fox News comment section.
About the insulin supply chain crisis, you know, that's looming and that what can we possibly do about it?
Who knows?
Are there any answers?
No, let's just yell at Joe Biden and try to get somebody else, try to drive his approval rating below 33% where it already is.
See if we can have some fun that way.
Just One Uncle says, the House passed a bill in March capping insulin costs at $35 a month.
I mean, no, that's an oversimplification of what happened, obviously.
Is it too soon to say that price controls lead to shortages?
And what they're referring to is if you lower the price of these goods, that means more people are going to get them, Tony.
Think about that.
Oh, insulin's suddenly affordable now.
Yeah, guess what?
That means people can afford it.
That means people are gonna buy it.
Did you think about that?
Cause that, that point of view only works if you're worried about making money off of it.
You know, that only works if you're like, well, wait, if I have to make more for the same amount, then like, how am I supposed to make more money?
That's not fair.
That's the only time that this logic makes any sense is if that's the way you're thinking about a profit.
It has nothing to do with like, that's not what this is happening for.
Yeah because I mean think about like the way if you're a for-profit manufacturer like the way our supply chain is now all relies on just-in-time the system of just-in-time supply chains which basically means like you're getting deliveries every day of stock you're getting orders like On a regular basis and if there's like a fucking grain of sand falls in the microchip, your shelves are empty now.
Because that's the most profitable way to do it.
To try and ensure that you always sell out of the product you have on hand.
To make sure that there's nothing that you can't sell.
Which is kind of funny because aren't we throwing away food like every fucking day?
Tons of food.
Food's one of the things that, well, that's the only time that really applies, but because nothing sells just food anymore, it works.
And that's why the overhead on food's so crazy.
They can just charge so much.
Yeah, when you're a state-based manufacturer, theoretically, yeah, profit wouldn't come into play.
Also, you would have like...
Pretty good data about your population?
About, you know, how many people need insulin?
Because, I mean, that's not like... You know, sure, people are diagnosed with diabetes regularly.
You know, new people, but...
I feel like you could have that information as the state, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I also feel like it's a pretty stable number, too.
You know, like there's a pretty, like, you can kind of project that one.
Yeah, that's, and that's, because you're not having, this isn't like a typical marketing thing where you have to find a demographic.
You're fulfilling like a need, not like a not trying to market anybody.
It's totally different.
Yeah, this is something that's really obtainable.
UpsideDownFlag had a couple of my favorite comments on here.
UpsideDownFlag said, being obese is their choice.
Parentheses, Darwinism.
Not providing medication to Americans is murder.
I hate this so much.
As a fat person who's been a fat person, I fluctuate a lot in weight.
It's such a common misconception and something that we're battling all the time.
That's not how obesity or diabetes works.
There's just as many skinny diabetic people as there are fat diabetic people.
That's such a stupid point of view.
I hate it so much.
Tony, you eat better every single day of your life than I've ever eaten in one day of my life.
Yeah, yeah.
That's just not how it works.
There's genetics, there's lifestyle, there's all these factors.
It's disgusting that we still... And this person's not an outlier.
This is the regular point of view.
I'm going to tell a quick story about what we just dealt with with our doctor, with our kid's doctor.
I have a kid and me and her mom are both larger people in the sense that she's 5'10", I'm 6'4".
We're both not skinny people.
Our kid's super tall and can probably throw their weight around.
We're both not skinny people.
Our kids are super tall, super tall, and can probably throw their weight around. - Yeah, she could kick the ass of probably anybody in her grade. - Yeah, totally.
And the doctor was like, hey, her, uh, her BMI is like, we don't like her BMI and she's obese.
And I was like, okay, well, you haven't asked any other questions about anything else.
Like, please ask about that stuff.
Give me any of the data and we can work with that.
And they wouldn't do it.
And they actually kicked us out.
They actually made us find a new doctor.
Um, and we found a new doctor and that doctor kind of started down that path with us.
And immediately I was like, hey, I don't mess with that data.
That data means nothing to me.
The BMI is not a thing to me.
It's a really antiquated piece of information that was... I'm going to get this number slightly off, but it was literally done during an economic depression with a very small handful of European males.
It has nothing to do with me or my kid.
This data has nothing to do with us.
And you know, the doctor this time was like, Oh, interesting.
And I sent her a podcast little link.
And they were like, Okay, I'll listen to this.
And now we have like a little thing, you know, give me any other data and we'll talk.
Give me any other data and I'll address your concerns.
It's cool that the BMI is not a thing.
She listened, but that sucks.
You had to be like, uh, here's a, here's a podcast.
Do you want me to show you like an Instagram slideshow about this shit?
Yeah.
And it was wild.
It was funny cause it was, it was me and um, and the doctor was like, you know, like a white lady.
And then she had a young, a young black man who was her assistant.
And so I'm talking to both of them and I'm like, Hey, these numbers have something to do with you guys.
Like, it was literally European men.
Like, that's who this data is based on.
It has nothing- and they're both like, they're both open to it.
But that's the common- that's the- that's common point of view right now is like, why should we help fat people out?
Is what they're thinking.
Like, not knowing that diabetes does not work that way.
There is very genetic diabetes that you have no control over.
Totally.
Most of it is, you know?
It's like, so that- I fucking hate that.
It's so common and it's just- Well, that's what this comment- that's what a lot of these people try to do is they try to split up the diabetics.
They try to say there's bad diabetics who deserve to be diabetic, and then there's good, angelic, sweet baby diabetics who have no other choice than to be diabetic.
And that is a common thing that I see a lot, and I just love the way that argument is depicted in this comment, because it's being obese is their choice, parentheses Darwinism, Not providing medication to AMERICANS is murder.
So it's essentially Darwinism is when I'm the only one who gets healthcare.
Wait, hold on.
Also, since when has Americans not been obese?
You know what I mean?
Cause that's what he's saying.
He's saying, well, you know, like that's criminal, but like also don't help fat people out.
But it's like that, you know, the rest of the world thinks that we're all like fat, right?
I mean, I'm going to go out on a limb and say upside down flag might also fit into the common American body type.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's one of the good ones.
He's one of the good ones.
Yeah, exactly.
I just like that it's Darwinism when you die, but when I die it's murder.
When I die because of the illness that I have, which is diabetes, when I die from that illness, that's not Darwinism, you murdered me.
I think that we just like kind of define white privilege right now.
I don't know about that one.
I think just saying that you murdered me and still dying is not necessarily a privilege.
It's just a... No, just that point of view.
That point of view of being like, oh no, no, I'm not supposed to die.
Like you're supposed to die, but I'm not supposed to.
Like your death is like, is like, you know, you know, mismanagement and that's unfortunate.
That's Darwinism.
But when I die, that wasn't supposed to happen.
I was supposed to be kept alive.
Yeah, maybe.
I think he sounds just like a selfish asshole who doesn't think about anybody but himself.
His other comment is, I'll bet there is a glut of insulin waiting just over the border for all the illegals.
Yep, that's exactly what's going on.
And you know what?
There actually is a glut of insulin waiting just over the border, and it's about five times cheaper than the insulin we have on this side of the border.
And you know who's going over there to get it?
It's not illegals, it's Americans.
It's Americans.
Americans crossing the border to go get insulin from Mexico.
Yep, it's a regular thing.
It's literally five times cheaper on average than it is in America.
I'm literally getting my passport again so that I can go get dental work done.
Like, that is what is happening.
Godspeed.
This set of comments is just amazing.
Be like, oh those illegals are coming here to get our $3,600 vials of insulin.
Yep, that's exactly what's happening.
Definitely why they want to be here.
They're giving them insulin for votes.
If you vote, I'll give you some insulin.
For every vote, you get a vial of insulin.
Alright, last few comments from Epoch Times.
Epoch Times did have an article about this.
Craig Otto says about California manufacturing insulin.
Stop praising this gelled up girl!
She'll bend over for anyone who will play his slash her game!
Oh no.
Then it can run off to... The French Laundry!
Or one of many great restaurants in SF!
What?
Maybe he'll move with Aunt Nancy to Florida!
LOL!
Wait, is... Okay, the French Laundry joke?
Is that... Cause like...
French Laundry is a very notable restaurant.
It's a world-renowned restaurant.
But is the joke just the French part?
Is this the throwback to Freedom Fries?
Is going to a French thing an insult again?
I'm pretty sure what it was a reference to is him dining out during COVID.
Oh, is that where he went?
I think so.
I remember him going to a fancy restaurant.
I don't have a frame of reference for French laundry, so I didn't know that, you know, it didn't... Yeah, okay, that's annoying, but yeah, I get that.
Yeah, I'm sure he did do that.
Okay.
Yeah, once again, we have just the right-wing practice of just, you're the opposite.
You think you're a boy.
Wait, what are you again?
What are your pronouns?
The opposite.
You're the opposite of that.
Gelled up girl.
You're not just not a man, but you're still a girl trying to be a man.
I want you to know that.
Yeah, we can all tell.
You gelled up girl.
We can all tell, Gavin.
Yeah, we all see it.
Man, there's not even a female version of Gavin, of the name Gavin.
It's too masculine of a name.
I don't think this ploy is gonna work.
Yeah, this is gonna be a tough one.
Java Joe 5 said, last comment here, nothing against folks who suffer from diabetes, parentheses, my daughter-in-law is a type 1.
But will they ever focus on issues that matter to all Californians, especially the taxpaying ones?
Can you give me one of those issues? - What is?
Can you give me one of those issues that just matters?
I don't know.
Shouldn't that matter to you, though?
If your daughter-in-law has it, shouldn't that be part of, like, a matter to you?
But also, what issues are you talking about?
Listen, okay, if I had to pick between my daughter-in-law and, like, five grand more in the bank every year... Ooh, that's actually easy math is what we call that, baby.
Yeah.
No, I love this.
Listen, I'm willing to sacrifice my own daughter-in-law, okay?
So you have to take this seriously.
And I would just say, Java Jo, probably don't live in California.
Nah.
I'm gonna say that because it's very easy for you to sacrifice your daughter-in-law who has never had a chance anyway, in whatever state she's in.
I love that.
Why don't they focus on issues that matter?
Like making Pixar movies illegal.
Yeah, or at least bringing him back to the glory.
Can we just do that one thing where the white guy comes and discovers America again, over and over again?
Was that a Pixar movie?
No, it was a Disney movie, but we just need to make that one over and over again.
I like that one.
Oh, Pocahontas.
Yeah, I like that one because it's when they did America.
I never watched it, but I know that America happens in it.
There's a raccoon that's cute.
I was gonna say, yeah, aren't there like little talking animals too in there?
Hummingbird.
Gotta get rid of those.
Gotta get rid of those, yeah.
They feel sexual, kind of.
Yeah.
Feels inappropriate for children.
It's not cool.
They're too cute, you know?
Yeah, that's grooming.
Little too cute.
Cute animals is grooming.
We all know this.
Yeah, look at how many furries Robin Hood produced.
Oh yeah, Jesus Christ, and good music too.
Oh yeah, that whistling song?
It was pretty good.
Yeah, no, will they ever focus on the issues that matter to all Californians, especially taxpayers?
Yeah, like erecting a statue to John Wayne.
We keep talking about diabetes treatments.
Yeah, what about that, huh?
I think there is, there's gotta be a John Wayne statue somewhere in California.
I remember going on a tour when I was a kid on some boat, some boat tour, and they were like, that's John Wayne's old house.
He was a big deal here because of Hollywood.
There probably is for sure one.
But they need more.
Smog, water shortage, insulin, rising cost of insulin.
Yeah, cool.
Why don't we talk about a real issue, like putting the Butter Maiden back on the Land O'Lakes box?
Please, please.
Something that people actually care about.
At least in California.
We need to do that just in California.
And then we can export our OG ones.
Okay, so we ran a little long on the California insulin segment, but I don't know, it's a very interesting idea.
We don't have a lot of interesting ideas anymore, and it's nice to, you know, It's nice to discuss one.
It's nice to maybe have some hope for a future project.
I would love to see this work.
You know, something we could actually do as a collective body would be great.
So, yeah.
Thank you, Chairman Newman.
Newsome.
The last thing I wanted to talk about, I wanted to do a bit of reading from an article that was sent to us by Andre This is the Moscow Pullman Daily News.
And this is an opinion column.
The headline of the opinion, the headline of the column.
Opinion.
Our founding fathers were woke.
Why aren't you?
That's a good question.
That's a good-ass question.
I was wondering that.
Wait, our founding fathers were woke though?
What does woke mean to people anymore?
Well, I'm sure he'll explain in this article to you, Tony.
What I'm getting from this article, he's like trying to convince conservatives to be woke because the people they like were woke.
It's very big.
I'm sorry for the examples.
This is like that cliche where pastors try to make Jesus seem hip.
Yeah.
You know?
They're like, oh, you kids like minions, huh?
Well, you know who else answered to a higher power and often spoke in what sounded like gibberish?
This cool guy named Jesus.
And also was never low on potassium.
My man loved bananas.
My man loved bananas.
But it's like you're trying to convince conservatives that the founding fathers were hip and also conservatives don't like hip things.
Yeah, they don't want that.
They want good old-fashioned value.
It's like, oh did you know that uh Thomas Jefferson did uh he ate ass.
Oh, that's Thomas Who?
First of all, don't lie.
Don't be a liar.
And if that is true, then, I mean, fuck him.
We don't need him anyways.
They get all woke, like, wasn't the guy shitty to slaves?
We don't like that guy anyways.
Oh, you're making fun of, uh, making fun of millennials.
Yeah, well, uh, John Hancock also loved to eat Tide Pods.
Did you know that?
Huh?
Ever thought about that?
Yeah, let me read from this article.
It starts with a quote.
So just starting off right off the bat, great start.
If you're admitting that, like, the universe is your enemy, that's who you're against, maybe you're doing everything wrong.
Well, he's trying to get conservatives to admit this, Tony.
This is a liberal thinking he can trick conservatives into being woke.
And I think it's gonna work.
Especially when you start off your quote saying that conservatives are the evil in the world.
By definition.
Yeah.
I'm listening.
I'm a conservative.
I consider myself a pretty bad guy.
Go on.
Yeah, no, you are.
You are correct.
I'm fighting against the very tidal forces of nature itself.
Oh, you got beef with me specifically?
And the universe?
Okay.
The Buddha, parenthesis, the awakened one, was woke.
Jesus was woke.
The Greek and Roman philosophers were woke.
Medieval Islamic philosophers were woke.
Maybe leave that one on the cutting room floor.
Influenced by them, St.
Thomas Aquinas woke up.
Uh-huh.
I love this idea, like, with the right wing the way it is right now, and the way, like, liberals are reacting to it is just...
It's so beautiful.
You're like writing an op-ed column.
You're writing a little diary entry called Jesus Was Woke as you're being held in an internment camp for giving the turning red movie a four-star rating on Letterboxd.
And it was only a four-star.
You were still critical of it, but that's still too much.
Like, we've tried this whole approach so many times.
You know who was a socialist?
Jesus Christ.
Yeah man.
Did you know that?
Why don't you be more like Jesus?
You know he used to feed people?
Yeah, but those people could have gotten, they didn't have a chance to get good jobs because they didn't live in America.
Yeah, Jesus was also, like, magic.
And a conservative's like, you give me magic powers, I'm for sure gonna use them for good.
Oh, no doubt!
And not to, like, immediately kill my enemies.
Yeah, no doubt.
No, you wouldn't kill them, you would just, you know, imprison them and make it slow.
You'd make it a slow, painful whatever happens.
This next paragraph, uh, hold on to your butt.
Renaissance and Enlightenment thinkers awakened Europe.
Our founders, children of the Enlightenment, were woke.
M.K.
Gandhi was woke, and so was Martin Luther King.
More and more, corporations are waking up.
Mickey Mouse and his friends are, of course, woke.
This person has done no research.
This person has no clue who they're trying to appeal to.
You're like, they know that Mickey Mouse is woke.
Yeah, they fucking hate it.
They hate it.
And it's so funny because you are taking the like right-wing framing of woke and saying no that's a good thing actually when it's not a good thing.
It's not a good thing in its essence that a corporation is woke.
Who could possibly give a fuck if a corporation is woke?
You have no problems in your real life if you think it's a good thing that Mickey Mouse is woke.
If you think that's something worth aspiring to or convincing someone else of.
All you're saying is they have liberal cultural products.
They do inclusivity on their $500 million budget productions.
They don't pay the animators very well.
Yeah.
They don't pay the computer graphic... You know, none of that is actually like... And of course, it's not possible to be.
But you're like, no, we can... Yeah, let's call the fucking rapacious, ruthless corporation woke in the hopes that we get conservatives to like the rapacious corporation?
What are you fucking doing?
I'm still waiting for them to draw the line to the Founding Fathers.
They're just talking about people from the past.
They haven't really referenced the Founding Fathers yet.
That's what I'm saying.
Benjamin Franklin loved Gandhi.
My favorite president, Benjamin Franklin, loved Jesus, who was woke, and also loved Mickey Mouse.
Just imagine being an adult.
Imagine being like an adult thinker and maybe like a political columnist and typing out the words, Mickey Mouse and her friends are of course woke and meaning it in a good way.
You're worse than the conservative who means it in a bad way.
Yeah, you're doing no, you're helping no one.
You're doing no favors here.
You're a fucking baby because I could hear the argument that Disney movies are bad for kids.
You know, I might not agree with why they're bad for kids, the reasons you're saying, but I'd be like, yeah, sure.
I can imagine a studio doing harm to like the people who, you know, view their movies, like producing garbage so awful that it taints people's minds.
I can, I'm familiar with that argument and I, and I, I can, I can, you know, hear you out at least.
That's a premise that I can start from.
If you're telling me that a corporation is actually good, like Jesus was, What the fuck, man?
I can't do that.
I can't imagine... I only imagine Jesus flipping a table at Disneyland.
I can't imagine Jesus being stoked for a $9 churro.
Jesus, he entered the teacup ride, but when he was spinning it, it was out of anger and he was disappointed in the teacup ride.
But he did leave that ride satisfied and did get it all out.
Okay, here we go.
So what's wrong with being woke?
For one thing, it was, for some, a dangerous occupation.
Socrates, Jesus, Gandhi, and MLK died for their beliefs, but we are indebted to them for establishing the moral and political principles of world civilization.
The Buddha and Jesus were woke because they dared to include people who earlier had been ostracized.
The Buddha condemned the caste system, sadly still present in India, and small minds criticized Jesus for embracing all people regardless of social status.
For him, the sin of Sodom was brutal inhospita... inhospita... what?
Inhospitality.
Excuse me.
Matthew 10, 5 through 15.
Not homosexuality.
Okay, cool.
Who's the one who killed all those people in Sodom?
I think it wasn't Jesus.
I think it was the other guy who did do it because of the homosexuality.
Yeah, yeah.
But you know, you can't really, you can't really hold someone's dad against them.
You know, that's not fair.
Yeah.
That's not fair.
I'm gonna go ahead and say that.
Man, Jesus's dad really kind of was like a weapons manufacturer, huh?
He was like a... He was like an insane genocidal tyrant.
Yeah, he was pretty fucked up.
He's pretty fucked up.
But I don't want to hold that against, you know, I don't want to hold that against, like, Jesus.
Yeah, and in the immortal words of Chet Hayes... Chet Hanks... What quote are you... What Chet Hanks quote could you possibly do?
Judging someone for who their dad is is just like being racist.
Oh that's that is true.
That is my favorite Chet Hayes bar.
That is true that I mean like at least because that's what's happening if you're judging some yeah because like that is what racism is.
Man have you have you seen the interview he did with um oh my god what's the Showtime interview girl she's so funny and she just she like asked him to apologize and he was like no and she like has him she like has him speak in patois and just has no clue he's being made fun of I mean he does but he can't do anything about it really it's so good it's so funny I heard Jamaican people like Chet Hayes.
I heard they like it when he speaks in Patois.
I mean yeah, probably.
In that way it is hilarious.
We draw the line at Adrian Brody though.
Being woke is a relative term.
Jesus was more awake than the Buddha because he embraced women.
The Buddha strongly resisted the ordination of women.
Even the Apostle Paul, the early one, gives equal status to several women, including Priscilla, Julia, and Phoebe, who was given the title deacon.
Uh so here he's doing like a progressive stack or kind of like you know uh what do you what do you call it like there's levels of being woke here you know Jesus was more woke than Buddha um and uh I would say like um Obama is probably a little more woke than Jesus because he embraced Talib Kweli Uh-huh, uh-huh, that's true.
I mean, to be fair, Jesus never had the opportunity.
Well, I mean, he could have come back at any time to do it.
When did Blackstar come out?
Oh, so yeah, he's had plenty of time.
That's very true.
That was like the year 2000, wasn't it?
I think so, yeah.
I think he was supposed to come back that year.
I think he was supposed to come back that year and didn't.
And didn't.
So, huge, huge oversight on Jesus's part.
And then I would say, more woke than Obama would be somebody like Hillary Clinton.
Because she included everybody at her table, no matter how despicable.
People like Jeffrey Epstein, for instance.
Did Obama ever embrace Jeffrey Epstein?
He did not wash the feet of Jeffrey Epstein, no.
I do believe that there was some sort of Clinton foot-washing thing happening at some point.
I think that feet were washed involving the Clintons.
I don't know the details, but that is very Christ-like.
The Greeks gave us democracy, but it was as limited in franchise as our founders.
Remember, woke is always relative.
The Greeks also gave us the principles of reasoned discourse, something sadly lacking in American politics today.
This is like, this is the fucking worst article, man.
The founding fathers were woke because of reasoned discourse.
Under this revolutionary, parenthesis, woke political philosophy, we call it classical liberalism, all people are free and noble born liberi who in the framework of free reason debate can choose their leaders in democratic elections.
None of this was there at the time of the founding.
No!
What are you talking about?
This is the opposite of what the constitution said.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with the founding father.
Did you just write a different article and re-title it something?
I don't understand.
Like at least try to get creative with it, you know, and do like the whole, you know, cool Jesus thing or whatever and be like, uh, you know, who also had some, you know, you're trying to like do woke, woke founding fathers or whatever, you know, who had some, also had some crazy ideas about interracial relationships.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, that would at least, like, make sense, you know?
There would be, like, some through-line here.
Not the people who literally thought fucking black people weren't human.
You're like, no, you know who wasn't racist?
Thomas Jefferson.
I mean, obviously, right?
Like, you know, the proof's in the progeny.
Like, clearly he was not a racist.
It's such a bad argument that's never going to be effective and is laughable on the face of it.
And like, you should be humiliated.
You should be humiliated for spending any amount of time writing this, let alone even thinking it was a good idea to write.
I mean, think about how progressive and how much hate Washington had to get for having black teeth in his own mouth.
What if people knew?
He was brave.
He was brave in that sense.
He could have got white teeth.
Yeah, and any racism that he exhibited throughout his life was obviously internalized racism.
Yeah, exactly.
He was projecting.
This is self-hate, yeah.
Obviously.
Everyone knows this.
Dude, so we watched that rescued dog show.
Oh yeah, that looks so cute.
Which I highly recommend watching.
It's like a dog show, but for rescue animals.
So the categories are like Best Overbite, or Best Underbite, Best Ears, Best Beggar, and then Best Couch Flopper.
Oh my god.
That's so cute.
Best Talker is one of them too.
That one's kind of creepy.
But overall it's really cute.
Those are funny.
My dog talks, so I like it.
But they do it like an actual dog show.
So there's two hosts behind a desk, essentially.
One of them is Rob Riggle.
And he's pretty funny, for the most part.
He makes a joke during the underbite segment.
Where he's like making a joke about having teeth, having extra teeth in his house or something like that.
He's like, yeah, some of them are, you know, fake dentures and some of them are real, some of them are human or whatever.
And the other guy's like, you know, playing the straight man.
He's like, oh, that's kind of crazy.
You have real human teeth.
And he's like, yeah, sure.
So just George Washington had real human teeth in his mouth.
People don't know that, that he had real.
And I was like, is this motherfucker going to say George Washington had slave teeth in his mouth on ABC?
Please, please.
He got really close to it.
I think that's the closest we're going to get for a minute.
I'll take it.
I'll take it though.
I was like losing my mind.
I was like, is he going to say it?
Well, I don't think he could because he was saying he had teeth.
So he had to like say like, oh, this thing that you think is crazy I did, actually your president did, but I can't.
Take that one step further.
But I think everyone can do the math.
If you had teeth back then from a human, they probably came from someone that wasn't viewed as such.
Yeah, this article, I don't think I want to read any more of it.
It's insane.
You're an insane person if you try to make... Hey, you know that term woke that all conservatives hate because it's associated with black people and it's associated with, like, liberatory thinking among black people?
You know who else was woke?
The people with slaves.
The people who thought black people were three-fifths of a human being.
It should go the other direction.
You know who else wasn't comfortable around black people?
The Founding Fathers.
And then start to take that avenue, but they also believe in real freedom and start doing that thing where you're trying to do the left analyzing of the Constitution.
It's bad.
It's bad stuff.
I loved this opinion column.
That's so funny.
This is the last paragraph.
Our founding documents assume that no person is quote, illegal.
No they don't!
What are you talking about?
Stop it.
Oh man.
That's how people do the other interpretations of the Constitution.
You can go both ways with it and they just proved it.
Yeah, Burger Jeff responds to this on Facebook.
Despicably ignorant article.
Shameful.
God destroyed Sodom for their grievous ways and we're trending down that and we are trending down that same path.
Slandering Jesus's word is intellectually bankrupt, but no surprise.
Investigate MLK a bit more before you assume he was woke.
He was in favor of nuclear families raising minorities out of poverty, not the welfare state created by democratic politicians to destroy black families.
Yeah, there's one thing we know about MLK.
He was a big fan of austerity.
He hated the welfare state.
Definitely not a socialist.
That's so funny.
It's funny when they do decide to like pretend like they were listening to MLK.
Yeah, well, they pretend to listen to MLK when he, you know, talked about riots, you know, the first part of him talking about riots.
Yeah, the beginning, the very beginning.
And they also pretend to listen to Malcolm X when he talks shit on white liberals.
Yeah.
Those are the two quotes they love.
And then, yeah, finally, Ryan Rounds says, if Thomas Jefferson and John Adams wrote the Constitution today, reactionaries would be calling them woke communist social justice warriors.
Just nonsense.
Just utter nonsense.
Women stripped of the right to vote.
Anybody who's not a land-owning white male stripped of the right to vote.
Yeah, what do you think you're advocating for here?
Do you think you're saying that's too liberal?
What they wrote was too liberal?
Is that what you're saying?
No, he's saying the Founding Fathers were good, and today's conservatives are even more extreme than the Founding Fathers.
That's so stupid.
Which is nonsense.
I mean, they would love for that to be our reality, but...
This rose-colored lens we have because today's right-wing movement is so awful and seems like unstoppable right now.
And one of the reasons it's unstoppable is because we have liberals like you trying to pretend that the Constitution is a document worth applauding and worth holding up, let alone saving and not throwing in the fucking garbage.
See, the thing is, you're just doing a bad faith interpretation of the Constitution.
And that's not fair.
George Bush would be ashamed of today's Republican Party.
That's the shit we're doing here.
He would be like, they don't even paint.
None of these motherfuckers even paint.
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