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July 12, 2021 - Minion Death Cult

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A Private Understanding (Q & A)

We take a week off from the world ending to answer the most pressing listener questions, such as "who are you" and "are there better podcasts I can listen to?" Music: Protomartyr - A Private Understanding Support the show for $3/mo and get a bonus episode every week at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult

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	The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... Conservative humor gone awry is going to fascistphonia today, so stay tuned.
	We're going to take a few pictures of the desert and how their policies are actually messing it up.
	It's not beautiful when you go across that border.
	Stay tuned guys, we'll show you exactly what it looks like when people are going to get you.
	Oh, they're in Bartholstein.
	Stay tuned.
	I'm Alexander Edward. - That's awkward.
	And I'm Tony Boswell.
	And we are Minion Death Cult.
	The world is not ending this way.
	Yeah, nice.
	It's just gonna be a fun, wholesome episode.
	The world was ending last week when I had to work over 50 hours in four days.
	So this week I've decided that the world isn't ending and we're gonna do an unprecedented, totally original idea that we just came up with.
	I don't think any other podcast has done it before.
	Nah, this is fresh.
	We're going to be answering questions, uh, from listeners and, you know, apologies for not like announcing this on an episode so everybody could hear it.
	Uh, but you know, we posted it on social media and on the Patreon.
	So, uh, we got a lot of fun questions from listeners, uh, personal, political, uh, a lot of musical questions in here.
	Uh, some silly, some, some little goof them ups that I think are, would be fun to talk about.
	That's what we're going to do this week.
	Things will be a good time.
	Yeah.
	Let's just start it off with a pertinent one.
	NoRelationToHenry asks, not a personal question, but something I've been meaning to ask.
	I'm sure the old hats know this already, but as a newish hat, what is the intro from?
	The whole quote, the liberals are destroying California thing.
	So yeah, when I was doing a promo for this podcast, when we first conceived of it, first did our first accidental episode of it, I wanted like some spooky music for the intro, you know, some otherworldly Lovecraftian synth, right?
	So I was ripping synth audio from YouTube, which happened to be the Thing soundtrack, and I accidentally caught audio from something else I was looking at for the show, which was a Facebook Live video from a page called Conservative Humor Gone Awry, and
	I loved this video because it was a live stream from this page, but it was just totally black, like totally blank, like he had his phone on the table or something.
	So no actual video, just the audio.
	And then he also mispronounced the name of his own page.
	Talking shit on California, mispronouncing the name of his own page.
	You know I had to keep it.
	It was too good to be true.
	It was, like, serendipitous.
	It, like, it blessed the whole thing, I think.
	I don't think this would have gone the direction it did without that happening, sonically.
	Yeah, that's Minion Death Cult lore that is real.
	You can, I believe, go to Conservative Humor Gone Awry on Facebook and still see my comment on that video from, you know, three years ago.
	It's been posted.
	I know I've seen it myself even, so yeah, it's been posted.
	But yeah, it's real shit.
	In a similar vein, Tyler Reed asks, how's Mountain Matt doing these days?
	I just saw Mountain Matt.
	I saw him on Friday night at the Redlands Bowl.
	We saw the Beach Boys cover band.
	Him and his lovely partner there, who I got to marry last year.
	I married them, joined them in holy matrimony.
	Matt's doing great.
	Matt is now a triller weed reviewer.
	Yeah, he's a weed fluencer on Triller.
	And he's a weed fluencer and he's like a triller guy.
	He does like triller videos and he's actually kind of a big deal in certain areas, which is sick.
	He's crushing it.
	Matt and Matt forever.
	He's the homie.
	We love Matt and Matt.
	Miss that guy.
	I'm spoiled with them, so.
	Yeah, for people who don't know, Mount and Matt used to be on the show.
	Yeah, and now he works for a pretty prominent cannabis company in California.
	Very cloudy, very tight, very much worthy of his hype.
	Wow, you're just seeing all kinds of ghosts from the past at the Redlands Bowl.
	You're seeing Mount and Matt, you're seeing my dad.
	Yeah, that was so sick.
	That was so lovely.
	Me and Tanya saw him walking past and we're like, oh shit!
	Then we got up and chased him.
	Then we sat together and we brought down.
	I think we're going to surf eventually.
	I think we're going to go surfing eventually.
	My dad's got big enough boards for you.
	I'm going to become best friends with your dad.
	He's got those long boards.
	He's got like a 12 footer for you, I'm sure.
	I'm just going to replace you with your dad.
	Somebody's got to, you know?
	Joe Wakefield asks, what are you guys listening to these days?
	What are you listening to, Tony?
	There's a lot of new stuff I'm enjoying right now.
	The new Soul Glow EP, Disney Go Vol.
	2 is awesome.
	The new Tyler the Creator, Call Me If You Get Lost is awesome.
	The new Vince Staples self-titled is awesome.
	New Mountain Goats is really great.
	And also I've been listening to this album called Child Queen by Khadijah Bonet.
	And it's a really beautiful soul album.
	Check that one out, but all those that's what I've just been non-stop kind of looping all those.
	Nice.
	Sounds good.
	The Vince Staples is crazy.
	The Tyler the Creator is crazy.
	I have been, I mean, the one oddball pick for me is I've been listening to some Motown on shuffle, like Motown hits.
	Tight, tight.
	My one old man opinion is I get mad that oldie stations don't play 50s and 60s music anymore.
	That was my uh that was my weird like lame bugaboo when I was you know 19 or or 21 the oldie station that I used to listen to just like stopped playing Stevie Wonder and shit and started playing Green Day and I was like all right this this has to be weird right this isn't just me getting older this is like I it's it's like there's not really a
	It doesn't seem like there should be a station that's like, I want to hear what was popular exactly 20 years ago.
	That's what they think it is.
	It's weird.
	It's just weird.
	Like the period just shifts forward.
	It has to be at least five years old, but it's not going to be older than 20.
	See, that's bullshit.
	There needs to be a station where I could just listen to, like, Mustang Sally.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But anyway, so yeah.
	I had Motown on Shuffle.
	Some great shit was coming up.
	And then I was introduced to a band called Switch.
	I put that song at the end of the Patreon episode.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's like their eponymous song.
	It's so fucking good.
	Like, the keyboards in this band...
	Really good.
	Some of the lyrics a little corny, but overall just amazing.
	Yeah, the song is You Pulled a Switch.
	It's like, it's you pulled a in parentheses and then it's switch, you know, named after the band.
	It's pretty cool.
	It's a cool move.
	But other than that, I've been listening to like my Usual wiry sort of post-punk, post-hardcore stuff.
	I've been listening to Kowloon Walled City, a friend of the show, Ian, his band, fucking amazing record Container Ships.
	I've been listening to Gods and Queens.
	I listened to their discography while we were screening Totes yesterday and just, yeah, one of like The most unsung bands I think I can think of.
	If you're a fan of melodic, like, screamo post-hardcore with, like, you know, sort of shoegaze and, like, also grooviness to it, Gods and Queens is fucking amazing.
	Their first album.
	Highly recommended.
	Nick Rybok asks, what do you do to decompress from both work shit and taking in the worst of the worst on social media?
	You want to answer this one first, Tony?
	Lately, for me, it's been really corny, mindless stuff mixed with some psychedelics.
	So, you know, baseball, F1, and occasional mushroom chocolates.
	Also, breaking your foot really does help to take your mind off politics, too.
	It really does.
	It really does.
	No, and also just luckily my baking is really nice to be able to just kind of do that, just go through those motions and get those results.
	It's really nice to do that because you know what?
	It doesn't matter which way you vote, my bread's still going to rise, you know?
	Uh yeah for me like a lot of my decompressing I do at work on the days that I don't have to record afterward like that those are like my chill days is when I can just listen to a non-political podcast and just kind of zone out and do my work uh so you know movie podcasts in particular uh really kind of help me just relax take my mind off things uh I also have that demonic uh
	Puritanical work ethic just inscribed in me.
	So cleaning and tidying helps me like take my mind off of things.
	I really can't relax when things are a mess around me.
	I play video games every now and then.
	I have PS4 and I right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
	That's like a big Escape, for me, I play that, you know, like, I don't know, 30 minutes in the morning before I go to work.
	And I like to go on walks around the new neighborhood that I live in.
	It's a very pretty area.
	You know, I gotta say, as someone who's always admired the way you're able to keep a tight space, I'm really excited to see what you've done with, like, more than one room.
	You know, I'm, like, really excited to see everything that was, like, in that room, like, placed lovely around the actual house.
	Like, that's gonna be... I'm so excited to see that.
	It's gonna be... I think it's gonna be nice to, like, look at.
	Yeah, I don't think I have the question here.
	Somebody asked how I was doing in Seattle.
	Yeah.
	I'm doing well.
	I fricking bought a house in February.
	I somehow miraculously found a house I could afford in this really fucked up market.
	If anyone wants any advice, I could probably give you a little bit of it.
	But yeah, I was able to buy a house, which is obviously like a very privileged position to be in.
	Um, you know, just having a steady job, you know, with, with a decent wage allowed me to do that.
	And, um, it's, it's crazy.
	This is the first time I've lived in, uh, somewhere with more than one room, uh, in like 13 years.
	Mhm.
	And I've never, I mean, I've never had, before that I was in my parents' house, you know?
	Yeah.
	So I still only had one room.
	So this is the first time- Like you had your own space, but not space.
	Yeah.
	This is the first time I've lived in somewhere where I have more than one room.
	It's really weird.
	Which is good, because you're a lot of person.
	Like, it's cool that you're able to now probably spread your arms and legs out in a room and not touch something.
	Yeah, just yeah, not upward though.
	Yeah, not upward.
	gotta install those vaulted ceilings um yeah uh do do do uh jacob stout asks what's your favorite bad movie to watch You got a favorite bad movie, Tony?
	Only just because I think I just recently watched it, but it's not a bad movie.
	It's a great movie.
	Total Recall just bangs.
	I can go back to that all the time.
	But it is a good movie, but it's for those reasons a bad movie.
	I do love that one.
	It's a good one.
	The special effects in that movie are genuinely astounding.
	Genuinely great.
	Yeah, they're awesome.
	It's a great looking movie and right off the bat just opens up with a bang and then just, it doesn't stop.
	It's kind of, it's weird because yeah the line between bad and bad movie or like good fun movie
	It's hard, it's harder to judge like the farther back you go because studios really were just you know making everything they were making a lot different kinds of things so you could have just a crazy weird action movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger was inside the body of a you know six foot five redheaded woman you know like it's like is that is oh this is a bad movie and it's like no they just had fun with it Yeah, it just rules, yeah.
	But I also don't expect someone to take it seriously.
	Yeah, well, yeah, it's a fun movie.
	Yeah, so like, I, you know, along those lines, like, I had, I thought of, like, Face Off, which is another, like... Ooh, I need to watch that again.
	Face Off is, like...
	That's S-tier shit.
	And it's, it's again, blurs the line between bad movie and good.
	Like, there's like insane acting in that movie.
	I mean, the premise is already, you know, pretty wild, but, um, I, I gotta go back to, I mean, we're talking about Schwarzenegger here.
	I gotta go back to like, probably the first movie that made me realize like a bad movie could be fun, which was Commando.
	Okay, yeah.
	That's like probably my favorite bad movie to watch.
	I got the DVD in high school and it was like the first time where you watch it through and you're just like noticing all the little things that happened wrong.
	All the little fuck-ups, you know?
	Like when he crashes the car by tipping it sideways.
	And then he pushes the car back over and they drive off and the car's totally like pristine, like cherry body.
	When he's holding, uh, when he's holding, what's his name?
	I can't remember.
	When he's holding him by the foot over the cliff, you can just see the wire on the guy's ankle.
	You can see it on his pant, right?
	His pant has a straight part in it.
	Benny, I think is the guy's name.
	Benny's also the cab driver in Total Recall.
	Yes, yes.
	Oh, great character!
	I saw that guy in a Civil War PBS thing.
	Yeah, uh, that's like the only other place I've seen that actor.
	Um, Roadhouse, that's another one that's like, uh, it's got a lot like, I used to fuck guys like you in prison.
	Like, pain don't hurt.
	Like, Patrick Swayze doing his own, like, surgery on himself.
	The ultimate, like the climax with, you know, the ultimate death, you know, the ultimate KO.
	Driving a... Pulling someone's throat out.
	Yeah, driving a big, big foot, driving a monster truck into somebody's mansion, you know?
	Yeah.
	It's good.
	Also, I gotta say, it's probably pretty played out, but the room.
	I gotta go with the room.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's fun.
	I remember seeing the room on TV, on Adult Swim, where they just put black boxes over all the nudity.
	So during this during the sex scene it would be like 80% of the screen would be blacked out and I was like what the fuck is going on and then the more I watched it the more I was kind of like oh this is like Tim Heidecker is just like programming tonight's material like he just he's just got the sticks behind the yeah he's just behind the board And, I mean, an original R&B soundtrack that... Wild.
	...kind of bangs.
	Yeah.
	And I gotta say, the artist was good too.
	I enjoyed that.
	Disaster artist?
	Disaster artist, yeah.
	I enjoyed that.
	See, I won't watch it.
	I don't want to see the fake shit.
	I don't want to see somebody pretending to be the virtuosic artist that is Tommy Wiseau.
	It's interesting only because Tommy Wiseau still exists very much in the same way.
	It hasn't changed.
	Same Tommy Wiseau.
	And like, I love it.
	I mean, it's, he's this entity now.
	It's wild.
	Okay, moving on.
	Greg Sorensen asks, he says he has two questions.
	Are shirts going to be coming back?
	And are we going to do an East Coast tour?
	I will say we're probably going to do shirts this year.
	Yeah, shirts are probably making a comeback.
	Going to take a little break after doing these totes and definitely going to do shirts.
	East Coast tour remains to be seen.
	I think that's something we would like to do.
	We do have some friends on the East Coast.
	Maybe, you know?
	It would be very tight.
	Not against it, that's for sure.
	Jeanette asks, Tony, what's your favorite bread to bake?
	Is it different from your favorite bread to eat?
	I don't know.
	I guess my favorite bread to bake is, I just bake sourdoughs.
	That's all I do.
	But I do like doing some of the flavored ones.
	My favorite, my signature one I haven't really seen anywhere else is the miso sesame.
	I really love that one.
	It's exceptional.
	But yeah, I love, just naturally loving sourdough breads.
	My favorite bread to eat is Tony's bread.
	And that's also, in a lot of ways, my favorite bread too.
	We've been living off of Tony's bread here.
	We're on like our third or fourth loaf in about a month.
	Yeah, once you figure out that you can freeze it and then bake it later, that's kind of the cheat code.
	Okay, another music question here from Steven Hodgson.
	What are your top five favorite music artists of all time, Tony?
	How do you want to do this?
	Do you want to do...
	One in one, or do you want to just list them off altogether?
	I can't do a particular order.
	It's not possible.
	Yeah, I don't need an order, but do you want to go and then I go?
	Yeah, that sounds good.
	Let's do that.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	So I'm going to have to say, the one that comes to mind right away is definitely Biggie, Notorious B.I.G.
	I mean, Ready to Die is tied for first for my favorite album that's related to my second artist, so we'll get there.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm more of a Tupac guy.
	Actually?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	Just trying to make conversation here.
	I like Tupac.
	Tupac's great.
	Tupac's important.
	But I listen.
	I have to be honest with myself and think about not who I want to look like my favorite artist, but who I actually listen to the most.
	Um, you know, and so I will always, I will listen to Ready to Die all the way through a few times a year, multiple times that day, kind of thing, and it will never go anywhere.
	Touring the East Coast?
	Why don't you just fucking go live there, dude?
	I know, right?
	Sounds like you'd rather be over there, man.
	I mean, kind of, no.
	Uh first one come to mind for me is Black Sabbath.
	It's a band I fell in love with when I was 18.
	I like finally got them because if you listen to Black Sabbath on the radio it kind of sucks.
	It's like You just hear Iron Man, and you don't even hear the good version of Iron Man.
	You hear the radio edit of Iron Man, and it's just like, oh cool, like a guy singing a guitar riff for two and a half minutes, you know what I mean?
	Like just Ozzy really doing the least on that track, really.
	Yeah.
	You might hear War Pigs, maybe, which is a good song, but it's like, you know, nowhere near, like, the rich tapestry of, you know, jazz, heavy proto-metal funk that blues, that Black Sabbath really does have.
	And I also started smoking weed when I was 18.
	I mean, again, you know, as an adult, and I was like, oh shit, I get it now.
	And yeah, they became possibly my favorite band.
	Yeah, see that's, yeah, Tony's showing everybody what it looks like when I was 18.
	Here's my impression of you when you're 18.
	Yeah, I'm crucial.
	And because I'm a poser, my one of my favorite bands of all time is Sleep.
	I can't front about just how much I adore that band.
	I listen to them all the time.
	They give me huge feelings.
	Seeing them has kind of become like my they're kind of my Grateful Dead now, even though I mean, you know, I'm not going to be able to see him that much.
	But I never thought I'd see him.
	And now I've seen him four times.
	And I just love them.
	And every time you see them, they put a little different sauce on it.
	Just a little different stank on every single time and it's just so cool.
	They play that riff for five and a half minutes instead of five minutes and fifteen seconds.
	Exactly.
	I am surprised there's not like a sleep bootleg culture.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	Maybe keep looking.
	I mean, like, contemporary, maybe, only because I want to hear some of the new songs.
	Like, The Science is this incredible album, but that's why I can't do Order, because how am I supposed to compare Biggie to Sleep?
	Because my two favorite albums are, like, the Jerusalem recording of Dope Smoker and Ready to Die.
	I can't compare those albums.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Why would you, you know, they don't deserve to be put against each other.
	They probably get along really well.
	I think so.
	They're probably like friends.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think so.
	I'm not a big fan of sleep.
	The best thing about sleep is that I got to hang out with Tony at a sleep show in Pioneertown where we did a bunch of mushrooms and I was super drunk and that was real fun.
	It was really awesome.
	It was a really iconic night, like a legendary night for me.
	Really formed me.
	Second favorite band?
	Helms Ali, probably.
	I mean, when I say second favorite, I just mean, you know, in order here, in the order we're doing it.
	Yeah.
	Helms Ali, an incredibly underrated Post-metal, sludge, kind of weird art metal band that does not get nearly enough credit, but I'm so happy is still making music.
	And the bassist is from Fontana.
	So shout out to her.
	Very cool.
	I would be surprised if you didn't say Helmsley.
	You definitely have always been holding them up.
	Hugely influential artist.
	Somebody who I look up to as like a person and definitely has some of the, one of the greatest voices of all times, one of the greatest songwriters of all times is Nina Simone.
	I absolutely adore her.
	Just so much good stuff.
	And just the person she was rules.
	I named my daughter after her.
	Penny's middle name is Simone after Nina.
	And it's just, I can't think of a, of a, of a, of a, A better person to look up to.
	What a badass.
	Those songs.
	I used to race the song Center Man to work when I rode my bike.
	Because Center Man is like 9 minutes long.
	And I can get to work in 8 minutes if I do it right.
	And I would race it to work all the time.
	I love Nina Simone.
	I love Nina Simone.
	It touches something in you.
	This one shouldn't be embarrassing, but it's pretty basic.
	I feel like I might catch some flack for it, but I gotta say Radiohead.
	Radiohead has, like, become a meme, you know, for, like, you know, basic bro or, like, pretentious hipster.
	Like, it's both, somehow.
	They're just a good band.
	They're just a good band.
	Like, anytime Radiohead discourse enters Twitter, you know, like, People get a lot of retweets for saying like, oh Radiohead sucks or like the Beatles suck and it's like...
	I don't know that's kind of an easy like it's like shooting fish in a barrel yeah I'm not gonna get mad at that that's like you know it's none of my business if that's how you feel but love that band they got a lot of different sounds they got a lot of really talented people in their band totally I would say my favorite albums from them probably Hail to the Thief great album
	A weird one that people don't seem to like is King of Limbs but you have to listen to the live from the basement King of Limbs because some of my favorite Radiohead songs are on that album and for whatever reason the like mixing and engineering on the live version of that album
	Like, helps you actually hear everything that's going on, like the live horn section, the three drummers, it's, that's a crazy album.
	It's very rare in the canon of live albums that are incredible.
	And I'm not a huge live album fan, but that's one of the ones where you're right.
	I've listened to that one and it caught me off guard because I was not a big fan of that album.
	Neither was I, yeah.
	Didn't care.
	I was like, oh yeah, it's a whatever album.
	Probably not going to return to it.
	And then I listened to it with a drummer, a drummer that I was playing with for a while, and he was like, oh, this album is fucking crazy.
	You can tell Tom York has been working with Flying Lotus.
	Like, by how loose the drumming is on this album, and then also I think the Portishead drummer is on that album, or at least on the live version.
	And then, yeah, listening to the live version I was like, okay, I get it now.
	This is, like, insane.
	Also, Amnesiac.
	Great album.
	Very crucial.
	John Coltrane is definitely one of my all-time favorites.
	It means a lot to me, particularly the album he did with Milt Jackson, Bags and Tran.
	That album is like my childhood.
	My grandparents' house is like one of the few steady places for me, both grandparents, but my grandpa, my dad's dad, Loved loves jazz and this was his go-to every Sunday like this is just like this just feels like home to me I love I love pretty much everything John Coltrane's done, but that in particular it's kind of slept on Milt Jackson's incredible What is he what does he do?
	Milt Jackson plays um, what do they call it?
	It's It's not the xylophone, it's the other one.
	It's the metal one.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Yeah, I can't think of it right now.
	Yeah, he plays that, and if you were to hear it, you would know right away.
	But that album just means so much to me.
	I wanted to be cool and say Miles Davis, but if I'm being honest, the truth is I listen to John Coltrane way, way, way, way more.
	Yeah.
	I've tried to listen to like Bitches Brew or like Birth of the Cool.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Maybe you need to go back to Miles Davis a little more.
	I love Coltrane.
	Coltrane is, to me, the pinnacle of what I want to hear in jazz.
	Yeah, I mean a good intro to him, obviously Blue Train, but Favorite Things, a few of my favorite things.
	Great album.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	In a sentimental mood is a fucking beautiful song.
	A good jazz like pro tip is if you don't, if you're like intimidated by it because there's so much of it, just go through like John Coltrane's catalog and then listen to the artists he does albums with.
	Yeah.
	You know, because that's what most of jazz is, is collaborations, you know, doing the same stuff.
	But you'll find that, oh shit, Milt Jackson's dope.
	There's a lot of great Milt Jackson, you know?
	So you'll find it's a pretty cool, you know, that's the gateway to me is definitely John Coltrane.
	Yeah, that's my go-to.
	Jazz is like, there's so many different types of jazz.
	Totally.
	I would fucking probably be listening to jazz if I didn't take an actual intro to jazz class at community college where I could like hear examples of all the different kinds of jazz and be like oh this is the kind of jazz I like or this is the kind of like sound I like like I like this I don't like that um so you I don't know that you know I think I everybody should just do that just take it take it you gotta you gotta take the class you gotta learn about it to uh take the jazz to appreciate it really
	Yeah, Unwound.
	Great post-hardcore, post-punk, weird, wiry, noise rock band.
	Not gonna say a lot about them.
	Listen to Unwound if you're a fan of heavy, weird music.
	Highly recommended.
	All of it.
	I mean, Survival Knife and even Nocturnal Habits.
	Great Justin Trosper bands.
	Big fan of Unwound.
	Great, weird guitar stuff.
	Yeah, on round's crucial.
	My final on the no particular order list is gonna be Frank Ocean.
	Wow, okay.
	Yeah, Frank Ocean really only has the two actual albums, but a couple bodies of work.
	That something about Frank Ocean really, like, grew with me and was like there with me during really important parts of my life.
	You know, the Channel Orange was Penny's.
	If Penny would have been, you know, assigned male at birth, Penny's name probably would have been forced because of that song, which I just love.
	Blonde came out kind of like right at the perfect time for me and then was really there for me.
	Later on.
	And yeah, it's super important music to me.
	I love Frank Ocean, and I wish we'd get more music out of him.
	All those singles are so good that have been coming out over the past couple years, but I need a full... I want to hear what a grown-up Frank Ocean sounds like.
	Don't lie, dude.
	You were going to name Penny Forrest after Nathan Bedford Forrest.
	The Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	After his grandson.
	Last band, I just, I really, I fucking love Proto Martyr.
	The Proto Martyr is on like a five album hot streak right now, six album hot streak, just making some of the best rock music I've ever heard.
	Constantly Coming up with new sounds that still, you know, you can tell it's a Proto Martyrs song, but live, so fucking good live, like just consummate professionals, which is a weird thing to say about like a rock band or whatever, but just like they sound So good live, they're so tight.
	I saw them open for My Bloody Valentine and they like stole the show from My Bloody Valentine and they're like a four-piece like wiry you know post-punk kind of band.
	Their newest album was just like amazing.
	There's just like every album there's like three or four songs where I'm like I'm blown away by simple chord progressions.
	Just simple, unexpected directions that a riff will go in, and I'm just like, damn.
	How hard did you have to work to find that chord progression or riff that I've never heard before?
	Something that I like I've never heard before.
	But they're from Michigan, they have a fucking working class sound that comes through it, and we'll get to it later, but just yeah, their last two albums, I mean all their albums really, love them.
	Probably my favorite band still around today.
	Yeah, they're incredible.
	Okay.
	This next one's also a music question.
	Let's just kind of blow through it, if we can here.
	Kevin Nix asks, top five metal albums.
	Also, we the patrons will personally fund bonus That Awful Sound episodes exclusively for Butt Rock.
	A lot of people, you know, listeners talk about how they want to hear more episodes of That Awful Sound.
	I am flattered.
	I am really pleased that it still sticks with people.
	I love doing that show.
	I put a lot of my heart into that show.
	It was a hard show to do.
	It requires a guest every single episode and it's just, it's a hard thing to be able to do.
	It's a hard thing to ask of people, you know, every single week to come out, you know.
	That's why I try to, we try to talk about music a lot on Minion Death Cult, whether we're covering cop rappers Or Facebook rappers.
	It's the origin.
	It is the origin.
	Aging minion death cult mom rockers, you know.
	I like covering that stuff, so that's what we're doing for now.
	Top five metal albums.
	These are not like the greatest metal albums.
	These are not like the quote most important metal albums, but these are like my personal favorites.
	Black Sabbath's Sabbath Bloody Sabbath that's like a fucking great cross-section of how they're they're heavier stuff and also they're like weird funkier stuff.
	First Days Here by Pentagram great another great like Kind of proto-metal, early heavy metal album.
	Highly recommend it if you like Black Sabbath.
	Night Terror by Helms and Lee.
	Prowler in the Yard by Pig Destroyer.
	I recently listened to that album again and it's just like so fucking good.
	Leviathan by Mastodon.
	Mastodon might have made my list of favorite bands if they hadn't released like six terrible albums in the last 10 years.
	But everything up to Crack the Sky with Mastodon is like almost flawless for me personally.
	Yeah, Mastodon fucking rips.
	And then honorable mention, not even an honorable mention, but just had to get him in here, Chaos AD by Sepultura.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah, bangers.
	Mine are pretty corny, but I stand by them.
	Sleep Jerusalem, the Dope Smoker, the Jerusalem recording, it's just better.
	I love that album.
	I listen to it all the time.
	Metallica's Ride the Lightning, that was like my gateway drug.
	Have you heard Ride the Lightning at 33 RPM?
	Oh yeah, of course.
	That's my favorite Metallica album.
	That rules, that rules.
	Power Trips, Nightmare Logic, that album just does not stop.
	Paul Bearer, Sorrow and Extinction, just for the song Devoid of Redemption, that song is so punishing and I just love that song.
	And then also Boris' Akuma no Uta, is that how you say it?
	Yeah, it's close enough.
	Akuma no Uta?
	Yeah, and I love that album.
	That was also my gateway to that kind of genre of music.
	So yeah, those are my five favorites.
	I think the ones I listen to constantly and always come back to.
	Yeah, Paul Bearer's sick.
	Hazel's Bad Opinion Corner asks, I was trying to think of some profound question about politics today, but honestly, I'm more excited to know which US president would you fight and why?
	Well, mine's gonna be a two-piece and I'll tell you why.
	I want to fight Barack Obama.
	I want to beat the shit out of him.
	But the thing is... I think we're getting a call from the Secret Service, dude.
	But the thing is, I want to beat him up in front of Ronald Reagan, who I'm going to beat up after.
	Wow.
	So I want him to see what I just did to Barack Obama, so he knows what's in for him.
	I don't think, I mean, I don't think Ronald Reagan's gonna be able to do much, like, deduction.
	I don't think he's going to be able to do, like, a whole reasoned analysis of what's going to happen to him, unfortunately.
	Maybe it's just for, like, Democrats to see what's going to happen.
	Like, oh, okay, alright, this is wild, you know?
	And then I'll just really, just, um, pommel, pommel Ronald Reagan.
	Pommel.
	After I have him sign my aunt's portrait of him that's hanging in her entryway, I'm going to have him sign it and then I'm going to beat the shit out of him.
	Yeah, that was my answer.
	My answer was Ronald Reagan, and the reason is because he calls his wife Mommy, which I think is weird, and so I'll beat him up for that.
	It is weird.
	And I've tried to justify it to myself because every once in a while, I'll like refer to Penny's mom as Mom to Penny.
	But then I realized that's not the context at all what he does it in at all.
	He just says mommy to her all the time.
	No kids in the room.
	I'll tell all my union brethren that it's because he broke the air traffic controllers union in the 80s or whatever.
	But the real reason is because I think it's demeaning to women to call your wife mommy.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I'm doing it in objection to the patriarchy.
	Yeah, I think that's... I like that.
	That's the way to go.
	Yeah.
	J Sharp asks, favorite band shirt you've ever owned?
	I'm curious about this, Tony.
	What's your favorite band shirt?
	That's so hard.
	I really... I don't... I guess... That J Som shirt is kind of nice.
	That Jason shirt is nice.
	I don't wear it out much anymore but I think probably the sleep shirt that I got when we went to that show.
	I actually bought two that day but I kept one and it's the one with just like the dragon on the moon and it's It says sleep on it with a kind of a gradient bleach print almost.
	That's my longest, that's probably my longest running shirt now because I've like lost everything a couple times.
	So that's like my longest running shirt and I like it.
	I didn't cut the sleeves off of it and I almost did, but then I realized that I would wear it less if I cut the sleeves off of it.
	So I cut the sleeve off of my other sleep shirt.
	Had a lot of band shirts in my time.
	I was trying to think of like, you know, like special ones to me or whatever.
	It's hard because a lot of those, like, most special ones are from, yeah, when I was in high school and I was buying medium t-shirts and so, like, I had to stop wearing them pretty much as soon as I turned, you know, like, 17 or something.
	But, you know, I got, like, some pretty cool tour shirts from bands like Blacklisted and Verse and Guns Up and, like, those sort of, you know, I don't know, posi or mid-tempo hardcore bands.
	But I don't know, my favorite's probably like my Mogwai shirt for Hardcore World Never Die But You Will, like with the... I don't know, it's like my favorite kind of art style, which is just like weird complicated line drawings that look kind of ugly.
	Geometric stuff?
	It's not really geometric, it's like a wonky doodle.
	It's like a doodle of, I think, like a Japanese demon or something.
	Yeah, I know the shirt, yeah.
	It's just like, yeah, that's what I like in shirts, that's what I like in tattoos.
	It's a good shirt.
	Again, it's a size large, so it's like two sizes too small for me, so I think I'm gonna make it into a back patch, because I gotta keep that shirt around.
	Gotta have that shirt.
	You know, I actually gotta say, I think my favorite one might be my drug shirt shirt, because I got it with you.
	Um, it's a fantastic long sleeve.
	Um, it has, uh, the, the, uh, man, what's the name of that Colt?
	The Nike Cortez?
	No, not the Nike Cortez.
	The Nike Trail Runner?
	I think they're Cortez.
	Are they not Cortezes?
	They're not Cortez.
	They're a little different.
	They're like the...
	There's some super rare shoe now anyways.
	It's like the Haley Bopp Comet called, I can't remember, Heaven's Gate?
	That's a great, yeah, Heaven's Gate, yeah.
	It's a great shirt.
	Good memories.
	Yeah, I have a couple cool drug shirts too.
	I had a woman, I was getting deli slices at the counter at the supermarket and she saw my shirt and she, like, the woman behind the counter, she saw my shirt and she literally crossed herself.
	Oh, tight.
	Dang, you're winning.
	That's a good move.
	Ryan1BigUnionTenant says, what are the topics you wanted to cover but couldn't because it was either too deranged or not enough material to make it worthwhile?
	I think we've talked about it on the show before, but the Facebook group slash page grandparent grandchild estrangement is not natural.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That it seems like a fun, weird, like I'm not allowed to see my grandkids anymore kind of Facebook page.
	Until you realize it's like there's like a lot of mental health stuff going.
	I mean, you know, a lot of stuff we talk about.
	It gets sad.
	It gets really sad real fast.
	Yeah.
	It's like weird.
	Like everybody's accusing everybody else of malignant narcissism.
	And you get a lot of like oversharing.
	And it's not a fun...
	It's not it's it's pretty sad actually.
	Oh, it's a bummer.
	Yeah, it's a bummer That's one that sticks out to my mind and like it's weird when you know that screenshots are being used to like justify exactly what they're talking about in the feed and Yeah, and it's definitely one of those, like, it's an echo chamber.
	It's like a circular fire.
	It's like the grandpa, grandma version of blackpilled Reddit.
	You know, blackpilled 4chan, where it's just like everybody's reinforcing everybody else's worst impulses.
	Worst mental health, what do you call it?
	The way they process things.
	Yeah, it's like a circular, like an ableism.
	It's really weird and it's like sad.
	Yeah.
	Dangerous.
	Daniel asks, what do you think of the perfume nationalist and his current rise among the anti-woke class reductionist communists?
	I think the corner of the minion death, this corner of the minion death cult is pretty insidious.
	Insidious.
	And not to be dismissive, but that sounds like a bunch of internet bullshit to me.
	Like, perfume nationalist, anti-woke, class reductionist, communist sounds like...
	Sounds like a lot of podcast drama.
	Sounds like a lot of, like, niche political alignments that don't actually exist in the real world.
	Like, I hadn't heard of Perfume Nationalist.
	I guess he might be kind of a big deal.
	He's still a podcaster.
	He's, like, when I see, I guess, when I see national Bolsheviks, like, marching in the street, that's, like, the problem I'll be concerned with.
	Twitter users like using the r-word or like wanting to do racial slurs or something because they think it's gonna help unite the working class or whatever that's like goofy shit to me I don't yeah I don't pay that any mind that's still like the I don't know the weird like voyeuristic
	libs on safari of the working class type point of view that might be interesting for people to listen to or might tickle I don't know particular tendencies within people uh that's not like the way the world works it's I mean like regular leftist people who are just like yeah I'm to the left I think capitalism is bad like I think it's exploitative like I think we should all work together that sort of thing like that
	Point of view is very popular, not just among Twitter left, but just like among people in real life.
	That point of view is popular and it's still marginalized.
	It's still marginal.
	It's still mostly powerless.
	When you start getting into like niche, like, oh, you know, we need to do like a synthesis of, you know, this culture and that culture.
	It's like, you're doing fantasy football On the edge of like normal people and it's I I can't I can't really put too much thought into it.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, I think a lot of it, too, is we're both lucky enough to be engaged in the actual world.
	I mean, you know, the people I work closely with, you know, the lens I view politics with typically has, like, a Pan-African tint to it.
	And you know what?
	There's no room for pure from genius in my... Like, I can't acknowledge that.
	I don't got time for that.
	They're not showing up to anything.
	They're not... I don't have...
	I don't have time for that.
	It's not real life to me.
	Um, so, I mean, you know, it's entertaining or whatever, maybe, if that's what your thing is, but, uh, be weary of it and, like, I don't know, do some real life.
	Yeah, well, and it's like the flip side, like the use of, like, class reductionist is, like, something I kind of bristle at at the same time because, like, I'm a working class person.
	I work with a ton of fucking black and brown people.
	Like, I don't... Like, that's part of the working environment.
	That's part of being in the working class, is... Like, an extremely, like, multi-racial cohort of people.
	Exactly.
	I don't see that as separate whatsoever.
	Like, class is, like, how you exercise the power.
	That's, like, what we all have in common, and so I don't...
	I don't know, it's just, these feel like sort of, you know, Twitter conversations, like online conversations that aren't going to go anywhere for good or for bad.
	Yeah, debates are not feeding people, I'll tell you that much.
	Okay, Chelsea Marchetti says, asks rather, what are your favorite podcasts?
	What are your favorite podcasts, Tony?
	I'm just going to shoot them off real fast.
	Real Talk is definitely a street fight.
	I listen to them all the time still.
	They're the boys.
	Oh Yeah Dude was like my gateway.
	I got really into that a long time ago.
	Citation Needed I think is like the most thorough, most well-produced show out right now.
	I just adore it.
	I think they do great work.
	And then Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Shashira Zenita is like my new favorite Guilty Pleasure.
	It's just two girls, Gavin, talking about life.
	And then also mostly skateboarding is a really good one.
	It's like a grown-up skateboard podcast.
	And Turn Out of Punk with Damian Abraham.
	It's just like interviews with people who used to be involved in punk or were in bands or have comedians on there sometimes who were in punk bands.
	It's a great show.
	Yeah, that's a fun show.
	So yeah, like my relaxation, like I alluded to earlier, my like chill out podcast when I want to like, you know, zone out or escape or whatever.
	Movie podcasts.
	I love movie podcasts.
	I like having like a narrative recounted to me.
	Like, I like having somebody go through the plot of a movie that I've seen and talking about it.
	I love We Hate Movies.
	Shout out former guest Chris Cabin, or previous guest rather, Chris Cabin.
	I like the Blank Check.
	You know, they do miniseries on directors.
	They go through their filmographies.
	I think that's pretty cool, learning a lot about, you know, their backstory, a little bit about the industries.
	Pretty fun.
	I love The Flophouse.
	I've been listening to The Flophouse for years now at this point.
	Those guys are super silly and fun.
	Like good music, which is weird to think about.
	But yeah, very good taste in music.
	It's funny how that helps, right?
	It's funny how that helps for some reason to me.
	It just seems silly and trivial, but it feels like it helps to me.
	And Kino Lefter.
	Gotta shout out Kino Lefter, friends of the show.
	Bangers.
	Other podcasts I listen to is Street Fight Radio.
	Street Fight has been fucking killing it lately.
	Absolutely.
	The Heat O'Brien miniseries on their Patreon is like...
	I mean the most recent one with Tanya is like... I was dying, dude.
	It's a miniseries where they watch real sex and you get to hear about all of Brian's personal history with sex.
	It's amazing.
	I'm so excited to dip into that one.
	I'm acting like I didn't listen to three hours of Chillbillies the other day.
	Chillbillies is also incredible.
	I like Chappo, gotta give it up for Chappo.
	Also, Matt Chrisman's solo project, solo podcast thing, it's called Grillstream on the podcast app.
	I listen to that pretty regularly.
	Citations Needed, again, that most recent episode about how America has tied meat to masculinity was just so good, so fun to listen to, learning about what a What a, like, dandy Teddy Roosevelt was.
	Like, Teddy Roosevelt, the newspapers called him gay so much that he had to, like, develop a frontiersman personality.
	They, like, accused him of whistling.
	Things like that.
	And then, your Kickstarter sucks.
	Love those boys.
	Some of the funniest shit out there.
	Madison Borelli asks, what's the best parentheses worst minion post that you've seen shared by somebody you actually know and did you engage with it?
	I know Tony's probably got a couple at least at least a couple great instances of this.
	One of the first things that comes to my mind is yeah like right before we started the show was my cousin Commenting on on one of my sister's posts about how like he hopes my nephew gets raped by ms-13 because my sister was like arguing for immigrants rights So yeah, and yeah, we we engaged with him and we made fun of him and also we disinvited him from every family function moving forward Welcome weirdo
	Also, my brother-in-law, so that sister's husband has like a childhood best friend that he still talks to for some reason, who's a total psychopath, who did the whole I can say the N-word because I did my 23andMe and I have 1% African DNA.
	Call that the old Dua Lipa.
	Not even to own the libs, but genuinely, I'm going to write the N-word.
	And it's okay because I am a real big dumbass, but a hateful dumbass.
	Bob Marley is one drop behind it.
	So, yeah, and I've had, like, aunts who get into arguments with my friends on Facebook, uh, who happen to be black, and she tells them to, like, leave the country, and I'm like, Aunt, Aunt Kim, you can't, you can't, you can't tell my, my friends to leave the fucking country.
	It's not cool, bud.
	Yeah.
	I have one friend who I keep around still, even though he posts the worst stuff.
	And that's kind of why I keep following him, because we have no personal beef at all.
	He's just a fucking idiot.
	He's a complete idiot.
	I don't endorse him at all.
	But I do still follow him, because he thinks he's a meme master, but it's all right-wing stuff.
	Um, so it is, like, it is stuff where it's, you know, equating protesters to, like, flies on the grill of a truck.
	And then it's also, like, Vin Diesel memes now.
	Um... You gotta send me some of that stuff.
	We should talk about it on the show.
	I engage... I've sent you some stuff, like, before, some really wild stuff.
	Um, it's, uh, it's Alex.
	It's the other Alex.
	Is it Zalix?
	Uh, no, I don't think so.
	The clothing company?
	No, no.
	Alex S?
	No, it's a different Alex.
	I engage with him.
	I give him shit all the time.
	But he also tags me in wholesome memes.
	Like, old buddy memes?
	It's really funny.
	Anyways, but the stuff that I actually... I engage too much and it's actually caused like a riff in my life, but it's been kind of nice.
	I'm kind of filtering out some of the garbage.
	But I recently told somebody who posted a picture of a... Remember the old t-shirt?
	It was Patrick Swayze, but like digitally black-faced, and it said Blacktrick Swayze.
	I don't remember that one.
	Yeah, it's a thing.
	It's a thing.
	And it's like, this guy's like a lib.
	This guy drives a Tesla.
	Like, this guy's, you know, whatever.
	And he posted it.
	And I was like, hey, my guy, Google soft racism.
	And then I got blocked on everything.
	So, like, I engage with all of it.
	I love it.
	I'm here for all of it.
	I will call everyone out on that stuff that I know.
	I would post that, but I would be like, oh my god, I can't believe this existed.
	I would do the whole, like, whoa, have you heard about this crazy movie called Romeo plus Juliet?
	But it would be for something that I don't think a lot of people have actually seen.
	I don't know, maybe I'm alone in not seeing the Blattrick, Blacktrick, Swayze.
	No, this is purely like a... Look how funny this joke is.
	This joke is so funny.
	It's Patrick Swayze, but he's black now.
	See, look, we gave him bigger lips.
	It's supposed to be funny, but it's cool though because he likes the Lakers a lot and listens to rap music, so he can't be racist against black people.
	Don't show... I grew up watching Roadhouse.
	So if you show me Patrick Swayze with fuller lips, I don't know what it's going to do to me.
	Yeah, you might.
	I mean, yeah.
	I might have a really different reaction to that.
	Yeah, it's gonna be a lot.
	Melissa Murphy asks, is the Catherine wheel butt?
	No, they're great.
	I don't know.
	Don't worry your head about that, Melissa.
	I don't know who possibly could have Put into your mind that Catherine Wheel was butt.
	They're not.
	They're great.
	Let's Talk Iron Fisting Myself says, Could you and Tony take U2, let's say 2001 era, in a fight?
	Stipulations.
	Bono will be blindfolded and have a gun with 10 rounds.
	Parentheses.
	He will be told he has 10.
	I feel like that's putting him at a bigger disadvantage.
	Both of you are tied together at the leg, like if you were in a three-legged man race.
	And then finally, a beautiful day plays during this.
	And I thought, um, I thought we had this stitched up until I heard that last stipulation.
	If Beautiful Day were playing, I would, like, probably lose, like, the will to live at that point.
	I feel like that would be a big advantage for Bono.
	Oh, don't worry, I'd carry us.
	That song, um, that song is a bit nostalgic for me.
	My mom's a big, my mom's a big U2 head.
	And Beautiful Day was the last song I think they had that was palatable.
	So I'll carry us through.
	We got it.
	Honestly, Bono can have all the guns.
	Bono's not with the shits.
	Bono's not shooting anybody.
	Oh, Bono's blindfolded?
	Do you mean he's going to be wearing those stupid glasses?
	He's going to spray paint the glasses.
	Yeah, he's not with the shits.
	We're kicking the shit out of you two.
	If we were playing New Year's Day or something like that, then yeah, that would get me fired up.
	Beautiful Day or Vertigo or any of those 90s era or late 90s, 2000s era U2 songs, I'd just fucking grab the gun from Bono and shoot myself.
	Actually, what's going to happen is, this is a movie, so we are going to grab the gun from Bono, we're going to shoot Bono, kick the jukebox, and Sunday Bloody Sunday is going to play.
	And then we're just going to murder everybody.
	That's cool.
	With our hand.
	We're going to get rid of the gun.
	We're only going to shoot Bono.
	I would be like, oh, Tony, I don't think I can do this.
	I've lost the will to live.
	And you would be like, well, I'm going to do it with or without you.
	And then that would pump me back up.
	Flygon says, what's your guys' take on the UAPs everyone keeps talking about?
	I had to look up what UAP meant, what it's unidentified aerial phenomena, so it's like UFOs, I guess.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My take on that is it's waste of time.
	Waste of precious time that you could be using to screen print totes, put stickers and mailers for people.
	Absolutely, and I mean, you gotta do the second part of the work, right?
	Okay, what do you think about the UAPs?
	Doesn't matter.
	Second part is, what could you do about it?
	What could you possibly do about it?
	If it's gonna be important, you'll find out.
	Yeah, I've been burned before.
	We've all seen an organ, or like, there will be stationary ships over major cities.
	We'll know.
	We'll know when to bug.
	KurtJudeSunWithFace says, what's the best art that came out of the Trump era?
	For my money, it's Lowe's Double Negative.
	And yeah, going with the music theme, I want to say it's Proto Martyr's album, Relatives in Descent.
	Hell yeah.
	I feel like that's a great encapsulation of the Trump era, of the modern era in general, just the alienation and the discontent people in general have.
	But yeah, seeing relatives in dissent.
	And there's some amazing lyrical work on that album, but I feel like musically it also captures just how I feel right now.
	Yeah, that's a great album.
	I think, I don't know if the same thing went music because they said music, but...
	Oh my gosh.
	Soul Glow's The Nigga in Me is me.
	Yeah, dude.
	Spoke to me like no piece of music has spoke to me at the moment when I needed it to speak to me in that manner.
	Did.
	So that's a huge album for me.
	It still fucking bangs.
	That's so good.
	I just introduced my brother to it and he's got it now.
	Yeah, I love that band.
	I think they're very slept on.
	A pretty vari- like, you know, varying music, but I think that album is, um, is perfect.
	It's a ri- I mean, it's Bad Brains in Worship, and then it's Evolved a little bit.
	And I- It's nasty, dude.
	I love that album.
	It's like, it's- It's fucking pissed.
	Yeah.
	It's- and it- it- it- it, like, it said what I felt.
	It- it, like, it is that fucking pissed, and I- and that made me feel something.
	Yeah, Show Me the Body, too.
	Uh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Their- their stuff is, uh, pretty, I don't know, Timely.
	Thomas Edison Barboza asks, is cunnilingus praxis?
	The answer is no.
	It's just fun.
	Yeah, it just is.
	It's just good stuff to do.
	It's just a net positive.
	Zachariah says, for each of you, what's your favorite highbrow film and your favorite guilty pleasure movie?
	Can you start this one to set the tone for me?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	I didn't quite know how to answer this because like I didn't know what was really meant by highbrow film.
	I guess like serious mood, like what's your favorite, you know, like art, artistically, you know, sound, like well received.
	And I don't like, There's... I don't watch, like, a lot of classic movies.
	I don't... Like, a lot of black and... I, like, I grew up with parents who, like, really liked forcing, I don't know, awful black and white movies on us, and I grew to reject them.
	Like, the only one that I really like is, like, Some Like It Hot.
	That's the only one that I could think of.
	But, like, I've seen White Christmas, like, 12 times.
	I can sing the original songs from White Christmas.
	So I kind of stay away.
	I kind of stay away from classic Hollywood, right?
	But I thought maybe I could combine these two categories.
	I could do a synthesis of these two categories, which are highbrow and lowbrow.
	And when I think of highbrow, I also think of like foreign films, which once again, like I'm not, you know, very well versed in or versed at all in.
	But there is one that comes to mind and that's Hausu, the Japanese movie Hausu, which is like an artistic feat of brilliance just with the special effects techniques.
	And it's also lowbrow in the sense that it's like, Wacky and zany and fun as fuck.
	It's awesome.
	I think Housew is on HBO Max.
	You should definitely watch the comedy horror masterpiece from the 1970s that was like Written and directed by an ad executive and his 13-year-old daughter.
	Not an ad executive, rather, but like a guy who filmed commercials for a living.
	He and his daughter were inspired to make a movie after watching Jaws, I believe, and he like asked his daughter for ideas.
	And so there's like a crazy scene where a piano eats one of the girls and Her disembodied fingers are dancing across the keys, her legs are flailing out of the piano while her head floats alongside and says, ooh, that's naughty.
	That's naughty.
	It's a crazy, fun, and very highbrow movie that I recommend watching.
	And, like, total pro tip, if you're ever, like, a group setting or hanging out with someone by yourself and, like, you were like, what should we watch?
	And you have HBO Max, watch it.
	You're gonna have a good time.
	It's fun to watch with people.
	It's a good one.
	You know, my favorite, I think, highbrow movie, because I keep coming back to it, it's one I've watched every, you know, five years or so often, and I gotta separate the art from the artists here, But Spike Lee, she's got to have it.
	Spike Lee, she's got to have it.
	I think watching that early taught me something about like a woman's autonomy and It showed me a different approach to romance and sex and relationship discourse.
	I think it's a really great movie.
	She's Gotta Have It.
	It's 1986.
	He made that so long ago.
	I think that's on Netflix right now.
	I think it's a fantastic movie.
	You can watch that one with people too.
	Great movie.
	Have to watch that one.
	I've never seen it.
	Yeah, it's awesome.
	Blonguy or Blongy, head of the Zoomer Caucus, asks, you guys often cover lots of instances of psychotic posts, quote, saying the quiet part loud.
	Out of all of those, which one surprised you the most with its willingness to be blatantly horrific?
	I mean, every episode is kind of like that.
	There's a lot of stuff I can't put in the show because it's too depressing or too, you know, graphically awful.
	But I think maybe the most, like...
	Saying the quiet part loud, uh, awful one is where, uh, after the snowstorm in Texas, that mayor of the town said, uh, posted on Facebook, the city and the county along with power providers or any other service owes you nothing!
	Mm-hmm.
	And this was just, it's like the logical extent of individualism, of privatization, of capitalist exploitation, which is that even, like, the capitalist promise of being able to pay for goods and services, even that, like, the quote good part about capitalism is on the chopping block,
	In the worst moments of, you know, society.
	At your lowest point, when you actually might need the services that you have paid for, capitalism and its adherents, and the literal death cult that exists around it, are there to say, we don't even owe you that.
	Uh so it's just it's I think a great um foreshadowing for what we have to expect from capitalism and the right wing and the climate apocalypse which is even just like fresh air clean air you we don't owe you anything we don't owe you like the the air you're breathing the heat that you've paid for
	You are uh you're exhibiting entitlement if you think that you have deserved just because you paid for it just because you worked and uh entered into this contract that we forced you into essentially you think you deserve that shit no you don't deserve that shit because what we have the power and we could just choose to revoke it yeah i think those ones are um the The most especially bleak, because it's not just some random Joe Schmo or Aunt Sally.
	It's like it's somebody with power.
	It's somebody with power responding to actual debt.
	Remember, that was that was, you know, that was pandemic.
	That was people.
	People died.
	Yeah.
	People die.
	This is a response to people dying in in your county was something you could have taken care of.
	And that was a response.
	And like with the people in power, that really scares me when you'll see some name, but then you find out they're like they're the mayor.
	Well, they're on city council.
	They're this or that.
	They're someone's husband, wife, sister, brother.
	You know, like it's.
	That's when it gets really bleak to me.
	I think it's more of a chicken and an egg thing where it's like the mayor really doesn't have that much power.
	The people who have the power are the private companies who literally have the power, have the electrical grid, right?
	And it's more like that guy is in the mayorship Specifically because this is his ideology, specifically because he has no will whatsoever to control what private companies are doing with our lives in their hands.
	So I don't know how much even a quote leftist mayor, how much power a leftist mayor could have in that situation where the grid is already privatized, where the grid is privatized and unmaintained.
	You can't roll that back legally.
	That's going to be very hard to do.
	It's more like... You'd have to buy it back or something.
	You never could.
	It's impossible.
	Well, you would just seize it.
	I mean, if you had, like, a competent government who actually cared about its constituents.
	Yeah.
	Excuse me.
	Not cared about its constituents.
	If you had a government comprised of its constituents... There you go.
	There you go.
	They would say, well, no, this is our grid now.
	Get the fuck out of here.
	Yeah, amen.
	But even then, it's like, well...
	Because the grid was in private hands, it had been, uh, you know, it had been deteriorating for years.
	So it's like at that point, it's just like, yeah, you have to all come together, pool whatever resources there are to keep people alive.
	Um, yeah.
	So that's, I don't know, that's, that's probably the most surprising is just seeing, like, People, I don't know, seeing the quiet part loud like this person said, you know, just on display.
	I think that's cool.
	Anthony Rose asks, kiss, marry, kill.
	With potatoes, pasta, and rice.
	And this is like, this is a pretty messed up thing to do to us.
	This is fucking, this is rude.
	But I would expect, you know, nothing less than asking the hard questions from Anthony Rose.
	Yeah, he's got the vegan circle in his username, so he's going right for the jugular here.
	If you're vegan, follow Anthony V. Rose.
	Crazy food.
	Amazing, delicious-looking food all the time.
	Mouth-watering.
	Um, so potatoes is the Mary for me instantly.
	That's that's the one I'm going to marry for me.
	Yeah.
	And then it comes down to pasta and rice.
	I'm a big, big fan of both.
	Huge fan of both.
	Uh, you know,
	Ani pointed this out and it's it's accurate pasta is like a style of food it's it's not like uh it's not like an actual you know staple or food stuff you can make pasta out of potato you can make rice noodles you can you could make potato noodles or whatever yeah yeah so i could get around this question by saying oh just you know fuck pasta and and i'll just make you know uh make it out of potatoes or rice or whatever um
	But I'm gonna say no, I'd rather have pasta.
	I'm gonna take this at face value and say I'll kiss pasta, give it a little muah, and I'll have to put rice to bed.
	Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you.
	To add on to that, you know, you could make some pretty rice-like pastas.
	You can do that.
	There we go.
	At first I was thinking, oh, but the protein, the protein.
	And then I look in the mirror and I look at my body and I think to myself, you don't actually care that much about protein.
	Let's keep this train running.
	Let's see where this goes.
	You're a carb guy.
	You're a carb machine.
	Turfs Have No Friends, Arthur Morgan, 1899, says, Has anyone in Left organizing events, protests, etc.
	outside of your podcast recognized any of you two as being from Minion Death Cult?
	For me, I'll say, not really.
	I was recognized in my UPS truck in Seattle by a listener.
	Shout out to that, dude.
	And also, one of Ani's co-workers came to work wearing a Minion Death Cult shirt one time.
	Whoa.
	Awesome.
	That rules.
	I think they were maybe a temporary co-worker.
	That rules.
	Yeah.
	That's about the extent.
	That's literally one of 50 people.
	In my experience.
	That's really cool.
	I've met people through organizing and stuff like that that didn't recognize me, but later on would be like, oh, I didn't know that was you.
	I heard you on this show or something like that.
	But I won't say who it was because I don't want to tell on them.
	But one time I was at a get-together, and I did meet somebody who listened to the show.
	And it was tight, and we partied, and we did whippets together.
	And I and I feel like we had a nice moment together.
	Shout out to you I just don't want to tell on you because we were doing illegal things.
	Well, you know not illegal things just like Things that are frowned upon But shout to them.
	I love you.
	See you around Austin Flanders asks, uh, did the post y'all read ever surprise y'all or have y'all become completely acclimated to how batshit people are online?
	And I will say, uh, the whole reason I, I try to be surprised every episode.
	That's like, I only want to get takes and opinions and interpretations of politics that surprise me.
	Uh, so.
	If we're talking about it, it's either funny because it's something we've seen, you know, before, maybe in a different context, or something that's become, like, a cliché, or it's surprising to me.
	So there's, you know, if I stop being surprised, that's the day I stop doing the show.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Definitely still surprised from time to time.
	I love they're always able to put a new spin on it.
	Alex is always one step ahead of me, and it's always nice for when you I love when you drop a little nugget of knowledge on me, a little cheat code to how to interpret something.
	But something that's really funny about the show is the show really how it prepared me for real life and some of the shit I've encountered in real life to where I'm not shocked by it.
	I think I would have been I think I would have been pretty taken back by some of the things I encountered in real life through actual opposition, through actual things I'm doing.
	That helped me be more prepared and understand what was happening.
	I don't know if that makes any sense to include in this, but I think it does.
	I'm always surprised, but it helps me.
	It keeps me educated.
	I'm going to jump forward to a different question.
	I feel like it's kind of related, especially to what you're saying.
	Yeah, that's one of the reasons we like doing the show is to know what these people are talking about.
	To like know what's going, what's circulating, what's fermenting in the mind of these people, you know, who are actually tuned in to like right-wing politics.
	And Dean DeVoe asks, how do you unplug from the death cult?
	How do you keep the bad people from the internet from representing a larger percentage of the populace than they actually do?
	And this is a good, I mean this is a good thing to like, remind ourselves of, that this is the internet.
	Like I was talking about earlier.
	You know, I like doing the show and I like talking about these people because they're funny to me.
	They're like, they're funny and it's also like, it's revealing and it's...
	I don't know it's shocking you know it's it's like interesting but at the same time it is like people who are self-selecting for paying the most attention having the most free time on their hands to be immersed in this sort of stuff and so it's good to know what the opposition what the base of the opposition
	But at the same time, they're not quite the enemy, because when we're talking about right-wing ideology, we're talking about those people's bosses.
	We're talking about the people in the Senate.
	We're talking about the corporations, the lobbyists.
	All these people are the people who have actual power.
	And if you're just talking to, like, a random right-wing person on the street or, like, a random Republican voter on the street, chances are, like, they're not going to be, like, the people we talk about.
	They might have, like, the culture war stuff in their minds, but they probably also don't like their boss.
	They probably also don't like their, you know, politician.
	They probably also, like, just want to be paid a good wage and just want, like, to be able to live, you know, that sort of thing.
	I would say the way to unplug from the death cult or the way to remind yourself that there's a fighting chance is to just talk to people.
	Is to just talk to your coworkers, is to talk to your neighbors.
	They're not going to say this crazy shit to you in person.
	They're going to read the social cues.
	They're going to know that this shit is crazy, even if they feel this way.
	They're going to know you're not supposed to say this shit in real life.
	They feel empowered because they're on Facebook, they're in a comment section full of other awful people.
	They're not going to say this shit to you because they know it's, they know it's like wrong.
	You know what I mean?
	Absolutely.
	So I don't know.
	Like you, you talk to people, you talk about things you have in common.
	You don't talk about political parties.
	You don't talk about specific politicians.
	You just talk about the things that everybody, like everybody has in common, you know, or that most people have in common, which is that we need
	money to be alive right now and that kind of sucks you know yeah it's pretty it's it is pretty nice one thing it does for me um it is always shocking and a lot of times pretty gnarly but there's something also kind of disarming about it when you see the dude with the MAGA hat on talking about plowing down pedestrians in a protest but then you click on their profile and see that they drive their Kia Soul
	There's something like that that happens, but that doesn't happen all the time, of course, but when it does happen, it's great.
	And another thing you'll realize, too, is a lot of these people that you'll see on the street who might maybe be coding as those things, sometimes if you, for some reason, need to engage or you work with them or something like that, you can make a common ground.
	Most people wearing a grunt-style shirt don't know what they're endorsing.
	And then most people don't know that the guy in the cafe wearing the Three Percenters shirt is an absolute piece of shit.
	So there's two ends of that, you know?
	And that's not to say, like, you go up to the guy wearing a Grunt-style shirt and try to, like, educate him on his shirt or whatever, because his shirt doesn't matter, like... It doesn't matter.
	It's a possible indication of something else that matters, but, you know, that's like, it's...
	It's not the big picture, you know.
	But more than anything, it's the byproduct of good advertising.
	They saw it on Facebook, they liked the design, they clicked on it.
	They got one, it fit good, they kept on buying it.
	But as far as I'm plugging, you're right.
	It is engaging.
	It is talking to people.
	And a good way to do that palate cleanse is if you are engaging in your community and doing things there, you're probably going to be around some pretty cool people who you can have Open, honest conversations about a lot of things with.
	So, you know, tap into your community.
	That's a good, that's a good cheat code to like keeping grounded.
	Yeah.
	Like there's a guy that I work with who gives me, he gives me fucking chicken eggs.
	He gives me duck eggs off of his property.
	And he's like a chill guy who just likes to go camping.
	I think he probably voted for Trump.
	I talked to him about everything else besides that.
	You know what I mean?
	I talked to him about work.
	I was talking, it was me, him, and another guy, and I was talking about Teamsters for a Democratic Union, which is like a more radical faction of Teamsters who want to be more militant in the union in a sort of opposition to the, you know, HAFA lineage that's going on right now.
	I was talking about it to another person and he was like, oh shit, that sounds great.
	Like, what is it called?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	It's just like Trump, Biden, Hillary, like all this shit is like, it's like ciphers for abstracted culture war bullshit that's like a distraction.
	You can have entire conversations and if you avoid certain hot button words, you're gonna be fine.
	You know, you could make someone a socialist and never say the word and they'll just like, they'll have no clue.
	Yeah, that's the way to do it.
	I mean, that's, that's like how these insidious right-wing people act.
	And that's like one way you can, I don't know, take it, take a page from their book.
	Don't say the word, like they don't say the word Nazi.
	They say the word patriot.
	You know what I mean?
	Why are boomers the way...
	James Fitzgibbon asks, why are boomers the way that they are?
	I have my own opinions, but it fascinates me that boomers get so much pleasure from dismantling the system and protections that brought them wealth and stability.
	And my personal take on this, my personal theory on this, is that they don't like know.
	They don't know about the system that brought them you know stability and wealth or whatever because the American project is like exists to erase that stuff from history is to I don't know.
	Build up the fantasy that we're all self-made individuals.
	That if you succeeded in life, it's because of your hard work.
	And if you are crediting anything else than your hard work, that's like shameful.
	That's like a mark against your character if you had help from the government or whatever.
	And so these people, they like rewrite their own history.
	Either they don't know, Or they just tell themselves something that, you know, they want to know, basically.
	And so then it's easy to shit on the social welfare programs that, you know, the vestiges of the social welfare programs that they benefited from, because in their mind they probably didn't.
	Or if they did, they were one of the good ones who, like, actually made something of themselves, you know, from it.
	Yeah, a lot of it is like natural selection to the point where like boomers are of an age to where if you're alive at that age now you've managed to either like you know, ignorantly fail along because of certain things you have going for you, or you are aware and you're very, very busy, so you're not talking on the internet, um, you know, or, or you are like fighting for progressive causes,
	or you're fully convinced that you did earn it because you go as far as to say like, "Oh, I was on welfare, or you're fully convinced that you did earn it because you go as far as to say like, "Oh, I was Yeah.
	Well, which is a common refrain, um, that people don't understand, but But a lot of it is just that's who's left.
	And that's also who's left that has time to be vocal about it on the Internet or the willingness to be, because the other ones are like, hey, I did grind for this, like I did grind for this.
	So I'm going to go ahead and chill or like I did grind for this.
	And I'm going to go ahead and try to make it so people don't have to, like I did, because I also realize they don't have the same.
	I mean, you answer the question in the question is a lot of it is that they just They're unaware of what they got.
	Or they are, and they're fighting with us.
	But that's a minority.
	If they're still alive today.
	That's a really good point.
	As the generations get older, the most successful, the wealthiest, and the most insulated from the horrors of a fucking dog-eat-dog capitalist system, are the ones who survive.
	It's survivorship Bias, but like in the opposite way.
	I think we've talked about that before.
	It's like instead of survivor's guilt, you have like survivor's disdain for the people who died.
	And you can even think about it, like if you look at the left figures and the right figures who lived for certain periods of time.
	I mean, you know, we just had somebody die of natural causes who was a huge piece of shit at what?
	How old was he?
	Too old.
	That's all I know.
	Too old, too old.
	And then Fred Hampton was assassinated at 20.
	So it's like, those are the spectrums you're working with.
	So yeah, in order to live that long, you gotta be lucky enough to not be aware of how lucky you are sometimes.
	But I just, I feel like, you know, it's fun to make fun of boomers, but this is something that like every generation of Americans Will or are experiencing is like the idea of rewriting your own personal history.
	I mean, it's like part of the human condition, I'm sure.
	Rewriting your personal history to make yourself the hero, to make yourself the noble protagonist.
	That's like part of the human condition.
	And unless you grow up in a culture that values the collective over the individual, you are going to tell a story about yourself that valorizes your individual experience.
	I have a solution for this.
	It's a combination of Cocoon and Total Recall.
	We're gonna offer a service where people can retire and we just plug you in a simulation where you get to like you get to be both like a racist and like friends with Rosa Parks at the same time.
	And like we're gonna go ahead and suck your life force out of you and it's gonna cool the earth down.
	But it's gonna it's gonna be I think it's gonna work.
	I see a future in it.
	Let's just do a couple more real quick.
	Heaven Ramirez, friend of the show from the Heads Will Roll podcast.
	Heaven asks, do you wash your legs?
	And are you familiar with this controversy?
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely, of course, yeah.
	It was like an internet controversy where apparently some people don't wash their legs?
	And by some people, I think you do mean to say white people.
	See, that's, I don't know, that's the joke, is that it's white people?
	I've never heard of anyone not washing their legs until that.
	Until that thread.
	Alexander, you're one of the good ones.
	You forget this sometimes.
	You're one of the good ones.
	Well, my whole family's not good ones, you know?
	I've talked about my cousin and all that.
	Hey, your cousins are lying to you about washing their legs.
	That with legs, yeah, legs as filthy as their souls.
	No, I just, it's funny because like the argument, I guess, for not washing your legs is that, oh, well, the water travels downward and it like whisks, it like washes your legs for you.
	And it's like, that's dirty water.
	All the water that's going, you wash your car from top to bottom because the water that hits the bottom is dirty.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like I said, you're, you're one of the good ones.
	I will be honest, I do wash my legs every other shower if I'm having a normal chill day.
	Mostly because I'm trying to conserve water because I'm better than most people.
	I just wash my junk in pits and neck and get out of there.
	See, so you wash your legs less than I do.
	I wash my legs every time I shower.
	But you're also a way harder working person than I am.
	But I'm in the shower!
	I'm gonna wash my body!
	If I had your day, I would absolutely wash my legs.
	But if I'm just not doing much of anything, and I was wearing pants, I'm like, I'm probably, I don't need to wash my legs.
	Yeah, but see me, I'm in the shower.
	I'm enjoying the shower.
	I'm going to like make up new body parts to wash just to stay in the shower longer.
	True.
	Well, I mean, if I'm taking like a good shower, then I'm definitely washing my legs.
	I'm like, oh, I got to make sure I got the webbing on all my fingers, you know?
	Yep.
	Yeah, get in there.
	Gary Bodnar asks, what's your fave hardcore album, band now, band of all time?
	So it's a hard question.
	Very hard.
	I just, I came up with three bands, three, and there are three albums that are just my favorite.
	Ringworms, The Promise.
	Oof.
	Ringworm, one of my favorite hardcore bands, if not my favorite.
	The Promise, just such an ugly, pissed, weird album that I love.
	Integrities, Those Who Fear Tomorrow.
	Again, just a weird, like, weirdo hardcore band that, you know, blending punk and metal in a pretty fucked up interesting way.
	And then His Hero Is Gone, Monuments to Thieves.
	Those are, like, my three favorite hardcore bands slash albums, I would say.
	It's so it's so nice that you and I do this show together because we get to kind of like show You know the the range Here because I'm gonna get real basic on you Favorite favorites.
	I'm gonna give you three ones.
	I've listened to him a lot lately Current is soul glows the negative means me.
	Yep Something that I've touched back to could it's it's the perfect combination of like Almost straight-up corny hardcore.
	Almost straight-up corny, typical hardcore, but I love it so much, is the Reign Supreme EP.
	I love that.
	And then, All Time, we're going to take it way back in Bad Brains, Bad Brains.
	All right, yeah.
	Great, great.
	That fucking album, a lot of people haven't sat through that whole album.
	You should sit through that whole album.
	It's a perfect piece of music to me.
	Bad Brains fucking rocks, dude.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you know, a lot of things didn't age well, but there's a lot of conversation to be had around that.
	Well, there's a lot of personality going on in that band.
	There's a lot of conversation to be had around that, so.
	Yeah, I think that's a good place to end.
	I think, in and on a musical note here, thanks everybody for participating.
	Thanks for allowing us to do a more relaxed episode.
	I definitely needed it.
	Hopefully this week doesn't drill me into the dirt the way last week did.
	There will be a bonus episode for the Patreon listeners, just like there was one Last week, a very fun one, if I do say so myself.
	You can support the show, get more Minion Death Cult episodes at patreon.com slash MinionDeathCult, p-a-t-r-e-o-n dot com slash MinionDeathCult.
	Hours of bonus content there for your listening pleasure.
	Help us pay some bills, help support the show, show some love for us.
	We love you folks.
	And yeah, follow us on social media at MinionDeathCult on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.
	Anything else to add, Tony?
	No, thanks everyone for tuning in.
	Alex did send me the spreadsheet for the stickers.
	Stickers will be going out this week.
	Get stoked.
	Just thanks for being awesome.
	This was a good time.
	We love you and love all your support.
	Appreciate you.
	All right.
	Yeah, have a good week.
	Bye.
	Peace.
	Peace.
	Now in my own voice.
	Pluralist even hates to stand on two legs.
	That's how Obama did it.
	In this age of blasting trumpets.
	Paradise for fools.
	Infinite wrath.
	and the lowest deep and lower depth.
	Don't want to hear those foul trunks anymore.
	Conscious wings to spare.
	Night is an accumulation of dark air.
	The sky will be forever poor.
	Gross gold lungs headlong to the bore.
	Don't want to hear those vile trumpets anymore.
	Call me Heraclitus the Obscure Constantly weeping cause the river doesn't move Doesn't flow It's been leaded by snotty men To make profit from the poor Don't wanna hear those vile trumpets anymore
	Elvis outside of Flagstaff Driving the camper van Looking for meaning in a cloud mass Sees the face of Joseph Stalin And is disheartened Then the wind changed The cloud into his smile and awe And he was affected profoundly But he could never describe the feeling

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