While the comments I made would seem to indicate that I am racist, I am not, I have never considered myself to be racist w/ Sean KB
This week fellow union worker Sean KB (twitter.com/as_a_worker) from The Antifada podcast joins us to talk about Paid Democratic Tweeter, Brooklyn Dad Defiant, and a Marco Rubio op-ed embracing union organizing to own "woke" corporate America Also, a high school girls' basketball announcer is in hot water for calling them the N word on a hot mic, and Fox News commenters ask: Why? PREORDER THE TOTE BAG at http://miniondeathcult.com Support the show, get a bonus episode every week, and 25% off the new tote bag at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult
I used my considerable graphic design talents to roast Twitter.
They came at me like Trumpers.
They're worse than Trumpers.
Stop putting the loss of Bernie on us.
Trolls on the far left.
They don't want Democrats to win.
They believe there's something my man was telling me.
There's a thing called accelerationism.
It means that you have to get a fascist in office in order for socialism to happen.
That's stupid!
If you believe that shit, you are my enemy.
Just making up people to be mad at.
You are my enemy.
I apologize for nothing.
Gotta say it again.
Nothing.
Fuck off.
Keep scrolling.
I don't need your approval, and I don't want your approval.
Fuck your feelings.
Wait, wait, this is a piano?
this message. - Wait, wait, this is a piano?
He did the piano?
I don't think so.
I think this is a supercut by our friend at Dem's Watchdog on Twitter.
I believe did that wonderful supercut of Twitter aficionado, a guy who's really good at tweeting obviously, BrooklynDadDefiant.
Oh, I hate his guts.
I hate his guts so much.
I take it very personal as, you know, a clear-glasses-framed, bearded, light-skinned dude who's also a dad.
Never been to Brooklyn, though.
I take his existence very personally, and I hate it.
Sounds like you're winning.
You're winning that race.
I mean, you guys are tied in a lot of respects, but when it comes to having been to Brooklyn, you are the clear winner.
I mean, but I'm also not really good at Twitter.
Wow.
He's really good at Twitter.
He's really good at Twitter, but you can tell he's one of these people that legitimately Twitter has broken his brain.
Yeah.
Like the words that come out of his mouth are like little Twitter catchphrases and like little one-liners that you would throw out.
Kind of sad, actually.
Yeah, it's a bummer.
Yo, my mans came up to me and he told me this thing.
He said it's called the dialectical.
And what it is, is it's when Trump supporters and Bernie bros come together.
They come together through the course of history and join forces against me, Brooklyn Deb.
Brooklyn Dad.
Brooklyn Dad underscore Defiant exclamation point.
I thought that was so sick when he dropped Accelerationism.
That's how you know this guy's a politics guy.
He does the black comedy white guy voice.
That's his voice.
When he said, fuck your feelings, it was just like, that shit hit.
I really liked it.
I mean, it's entirely possible.
We don't know what his background is, we don't know where he comes from, you know, what sort of philosophy he's into.
Yes, he's from Brooklyn.
I think he might be Brooklyn's dad.
Where in Brooklyn's the question?
Is he from Park Slope or is he from, like, Sheepshead?
And I guess we can wonder if maybe all this accelerationism talk means that he's a, like, a Nick Land guy.
Maybe he's off, like, doing amphetamines and, you know, solving the problems of the world through weird, like, neo-fascism.
Who knows?
Okay.
That's an option.
I'm willing to explore with him.
So, if you're not familiar with what this guy is talking about, he... Well, first of all, thanks to Heaven Ramirez for posting this in the MDC group.
Heaven has a great podcast you can listen to called Heads Will Roll.
You should check that out.
But yeah, a little background on Brooklyn Dad, why he's funny and fun to talk about.
is because it recently came to light that he received like 63, I think 64, 63, somewhere around there, thousand dollars from the DNC during the 2020 primary.
Great work if you can get it.
Yeah, and that work seems to mostly consist of tweets casting aspersions on the female accusers of Andrew Cuomo.
One of the biggest tweets he did here was, the only person who could pardon Trump from a conviction in New York is the governor.
Kind of makes you wonder about timing!
And it's funny, he tweeted this right after we did our episode on Andrew Cuomo.
Yeah.
And this was the conspiracy theory, was that Trump was paying these sluts to come out and lie about, you know, our good Italian boy, Andrew Cuomo, in order to get him out of office so that then, naturally, a Republican would become the governor.
Of New York.
And then that Republican governor could pardon Trump because he's definitely going to prison otherwise.
Yeah.
That's cuckoo, whack-a-brain, QAnon-level bullshit right there, man.
Just like, these are Democrats, right, that are coming up with this shit?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
But I think he would take pride in that.
He would be like, yeah, I'm open to all ideas.
That's what I do.
Brooklyn Dad.
He would take pride in what?
What idea would he be for?
He would be like, yeah, these are Q. These are Q ideas.
I do take a little bit from here and a little bit from there.
Sure.
He's a centrist.
Yeah.
Centrist means taking a little bit from Putin-gate and a little bit from QAnon.
That's right.
He also was mad at Phoebe Bridgers for smashing her guitar on SNL.
Fuck you, bro.
SNL is like the liberal version of the NFL.
It's just something that you should not disrespect with your weird antics.
You're selfish.
You know what I mean?
Just shut up and play when you're there, Phoebe.
Hey, can we leave politics out of this?
She did yell, this is a fetus, before she smashed the guitar, right?
Yeah, that offends the dad, the Brooklyn dad.
Yeah, so anyway, I'm Alexander Edward.
And I'm Tony Boswell.
We're Minion Death Cult.
The world is ending.
High school basketball players seem to be responsible this week. - I think.
We're documenting it.
And that other voice that you're hearing is the illustrious Sean from the Antifada podcast.
How you doing, buddy?
Hey, good.
Great.
Happy to be back with you guys.
So wonderful to have you here.
I would say just a great, a great second take, you know, take two from us here.
But I don't even think we actually did a first take last week when we tried to record this episode.
No, not exactly.
I think we got into like a hi how you doing on the Skype call and then my internet stopped working for about five days.
Tony and I actually had a nice little conversation.
Our significant others know each other.
Randomly from across the country, so we caught up with a whole bunch of stuff.
Yeah, it was super lovely.
Why didn't you guys record that?
That could have been content.
Could have put that out for Patreon at least.
We did.
It's on like a Patreon feed that only certain people know about.
It's like, you'll get there one day.
Love to dox my girlfriend.
Minion dox cult.
Yeah, so sorry about the lack of episode last week, especially if you're a Patreon subscriber, you know, people who don't contribute to this show and therefore society.
Not as apologetic to you folks, but we did try to make it up with a live episode that we did over our mobile phones.
I still had Signal there on Instagram.
So you can go see a sort of hour-long live episode between me and Tony where we go into the Next Door app for the very first time.
I had so much fun from that really unflattering angle.
I had a really good time.
I think we need to do more things like that.
It was very fun.
People seemed to like it.
I am going to put that audio on the Patreon feed.
If you're not a big video watcher, if you like to listen while you're at work or whatever, that audio of that live episode will be on the Patreon feed.
I'm gonna put it up there tomorrow.
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Alright, on to the show today.
Where do we want to start?
Do we want to start with racism or ironic unionism?
Let's start with the op-ed published by Marco Rubio.
Little Marco!
This is why we brought Sean on.
Sean and I have at least one thing in common.
Our significant others might not know each other, but we're trying to form that one big group of significant others.
Aka a union.
Yes.
Both he and I are union members and I saw this op-ed from Marco Rubio about the Amazon unionization effort and I was floored by it and I thought how wonderful would it be to get another union guy, another union thug on the show to talk about it.
As a worker, as a carpenter, I think, you know, Alex and I have to give our proletarian viewpoint on Little Marco and what he has to say about, say, the Amazon Drive.
You know, I don't like the guy.
I don't like him, but hey, you know, I think we should hear him out.
I think we should hear what he has to say.
100%.
Senator, this is in USA Today.
These are his words.
This is an op-ed.
Senator Marco Rubio, colon, Amazon should face unionization drive without Republican support.
The subhead is, Amazon is waging a culture war against working class values.
And is not helping workers or our economy.
So right there, just a beautiful mishmash of boneheaded ideology, trying to wedge in, trying to create a synthesis of culture and working class interests by just saying that, no, like trying to create a synthesis of culture and working class interests by just saying that, no, like the racism that we like or the cartoons where a skunk tries to rape
And very important. - I, I, I, I don't know what to say except that, like you said, it's a huge mishmash.
He even said, like, Amazon isn't there to help workers.
Like, no corporation is there to help workers.
No.
That's literally not the point of what a company does.
It's there to make profits.
So it's this weird, like, Right populist sort of corporatist model that he's got in mind where like workers and capital they're like walking hand in hand on a beautiful road but then Bezos screwed up because he got too woke about it.
Yeah that's exactly what it is and I think most of these guys would normally say that of course corporations want to help workers.
I mean they're the ones who made them workers.
They wouldn't be workers if corporations didn't give them a job.
Hey, no worker ever gave me a job, Sean.
Have you heard that meme, no poor person ever gave me a job?
I've seen it, I've seen it.
Job creators.
Marco Rubio, opinion contributor.
For the past several years, Amazon has waged a war against working class values.
Let's try to see if we can figure out what those values are.
The Silicon Valley titan uses anti-competitive strategies to crush small businesses, bans conservative books, and blocks traditional charities from participating in its Amazon Smile program.
Not surprisingly, it has also bowed to China's censorship demands.
Wow.
Kitchen sink here, Marco.
Yeah, yeah.
Amazon may be headquartered in America, but it considers itself a citizen of the world.
Weird, like, globalist kind of rhetoric, you know?
Like dog whistle at globalism sort of thing?
They're thinking global, but they're terrorizing local.
Now the company is facing a unionization effort at its warehouse in Bessemer, Alabama.
The move comes after a banner year for Amazon thanks to the COVID-19 lockdowns.
But even after historic market gains, its corporate leadership fears the prospect of its workers having an increased say in working conditions, so it's looking to crush the union vote.
Wow, Marco Rubio actually said workers having a say.
I mean he's like, it's an interesting mix because he's hitting all those like right populist sort of anti-globalist touchstones there, but then he's also using like union rhetoric, right?
Like having a say in the workplace or whatever.
He's really straddling that line right now.
I'm impressed, Marco.
It's interesting as to whether this will reach anyone that it normally wouldn't.
I don't know how many conservatives actually give a shit what Marco Rubio says.
Maybe he's popular in Florida.
He's a Florida senator.
But I don't know if this sort of pro-union or pro-worker rhetoric is going to reach anyone that actually hasn't heard it and is amenable to it.
What do you think?
No way.
I mean, I'm just imagining him, like, trying to straddle this line that just gets, like, farther and farther apart, till he's doing, like, a complete split.
Because, like, um... He's doing, like, John-Claude Van Damme on the two semi-trucks.
Exactly, that's exactly what I was thinking.
And I agree with you, I'm not sure who's supposed to be the audience for this.
Certainly not the Amazon workers who, as far as I understand, don't give a flying fuck about wokeness or like China or whatever.
They obviously just want a good wage and some dignity on the job.
So I have to think, For what I've heard so far, that this is him just throwing up a trial balloon.
Like trying to experiment with this, what's the guy's name, Hawley?
Yeah, Josh Hawley.
Josh Hawley, like light America first sort of stuff.
And see if he can get any resonance with, I don't know, like a new demographic of workers, working class people.
I think it's interesting that he's like using it to try and punish the corporation that he doesn't like.
Like he's...
He doesn't, I mean maybe later in this piece he'll say it, but he doesn't say that this is like a uniformly good thing that should happen, the unionization drives.
He just wants to punish Amazon specifically because he thinks, uh, he thinks they're, you know, they're too woke, like you said, or they're bad, you know, they're too lib, so we need to unionize their workforce, which is funny, but like I think it kind of maybe betrays
uh his intention that he's willing to actually say these things i don't think he thinks he'll make a difference in saying this i don't think because i mean he definitely does not want a unionized workforce to be like the norm and i don't think he's worried about that at all so i i think this is just
A shot at Amazon, like a personal shot or a personal threat to Amazon where he's using what would be very popular proposals and our popular ideas in this country to sort of... maybe... I don't know, what's... Like, is Amazon ever going to be able to do anything that makes, like, you know, your conservative aunt like them again?
Probably not.
I mean, now that I think about this rhetoric and how he pinpointed it towards one particular company and listed a bunch of grievances and called them out, it is exactly what Trump did over and over and over again.
Whether it was with Carrier or whether it was with the car companies or all other sorts of corporations whenever they tried to move overseas or shut down a factory, it was highly ineffective.
But it was very good symbolically for Trump to come in and lambast that particular company in this sort of symbolic attack on them.
He never really put too much leverage on them, but he threw it out there.
Seems to me like Rubio is simply taking that same play of Trump's and trying to use it himself, trying to catch some of that Trump fire.
You know what I mean?
Unions just are extremely unpopular with the conservative base in this country.
It's really bizarre.
They have like a 20% approval rating, humans among Republicans.
Yeah, I just, it's, I think it's more of just a threat against Amazon or a company.
Anybody who is thinking about... I don't know, man, because Amazon doesn't do anything that actually affects fucking Marco Rubio or his like constituents.
Like this is all just, he just thinks his, you know, his constituents are...
Are enough rubes to think that this is like tough talk against Amazon and not really think about the details of what it means?
Whether or not a union is actually put into place here.
Wrong for both workers and our economy.
For decades, companies like Amazon have been allies of the left in the culture war.
But when their bottom line is threatened, they turn to conservatives to save them.
Republicans have rightly understood the dangers posed by the unchecked influence of labor unions.
Adversarial relations between labor and management are wrong.
They are wrong for both workers and our nation's economic competitiveness.
And I just would like to, yeah, point to history and say, yes, as unions have declined in strength and ubiquity, things are better than ever for America's workers.
Correlation is clear.
Yeah.
But the days of conservatives being taken for granted by the business community are over.
What?
They're number one ally, like, right ahead of the Democrats, who are their number two ally.
Here's my standard.
When the conflict is between working Americans and a company whose leadership has decided to wage culture war against working class values, the choice is easy.
I support the workers.
And that's why I stand with those at Amazon's Bessemer Warehouse today.
I don't know what Marco Rubio could have done to help Amazon in this situation.
Like, American labor laws are American like corporate laws and deregulation and places like Amazon have developed insane methods of preventing unionized, even just people being able to talk to each other, you know, to talk about what it's like to work in this place, you know?
Amazon doesn't need your help, Rubio.
Like, I don't know what you're threatening to withhold, you know, from them.
Right.
Yeah.
I was just talking to someone the other day who was like, DMing me some bullshit, who was all like, well, it sounds like you hate corruption, not capitalism.
And it's like, nah dawg, they're playing by the rules.
They just know all of them and we know none of them.
Like, Amazon gets away with shit because they don't need your help.
They're playing within the system that's already there.
They made the rules already.
Yeah, exactly.
That's not the deal.
What's weird to me is, again, the strategy behind this.
I don't think it's a Florida thing for Rubio, right?
He's not trying to get votes in Florida.
I think he's trying to put himself on the national stage.
The unions are wholly in bed with the Democratic Party.
There's no way that the UCFW, the commercial food workers, are going to break with the Democrats and go for Rubio over this.
That doesn't make any sense at all.
I think, um, I think again, like, all the rhetoric that he's using around unions is very tepid.
Like, he's walking up to the edge of actually saying, like, we support unionism, and stepping back at the same moment, because he's trying to straddle this crazy line.
And, um, the idea that, like, are the workers supposed to care about the woke stuff?
Is that why they're trying to unionize?
Or is it just that, like, you were woke and globalist, so this is what you get?
Like, I don't even know what his implications are.
Maybe we're not giving Marco Rubio enough credit.
Maybe he is trying to portray working class solidarity and unionization efforts.
He's trying to marry that to anti-wokeness.
Like, and in effect, you know, poison it for Democratic politicians or Democratic pundits who don't want to endorse this attack against, you know, the progressive companies like Amazon.
That's not going to work either, but that would be something.
I mean, listen, I'm in the building trades in New York City, which is notoriously rough, notoriously a bunch of roughnecks, and on the job site we talk about a lot of shit.
We talk a lot of shit about people.
Mostly the bosses, but everybody else too.
And I tell you, I've been laid off since like the summertime at this point, but like for the years and years before that, talking just like randomly on the job with all sorts of like dozens and hundreds of people, nobody talks about wokeness.
Wokeness is not a working class issue, and these working class values that you're imposing on people aren't things that people think about or really consider all that important.
Certainly if you put that next to like a union drive where people are trying to like win real material gains.
So this entire like woke culture, anti woke sort of shit is like it's being imposed upon It's being imposed upon me, right?
And you.
It's being imposed upon working class people as though like that's more important than again, like a decent wage and benefits and dignity on the job.
It's really bizarre.
It's like, again, it kind of reads towards he's trying to signal to like his middle class and upper middle class like Republican constituents and he's trying to signal to other Republican politicians that this is a way like a way they might go like they might go down this road at some point and supporting unions but to like say that it's working class values and just impose that upon us fuck you man nobody gives a shit about that no
No, Working Class Values is caring about the inventory on the Amazon website and whether or not they're carrying TKW's book.
How many copies?
Are they suppressing the sales on the Conservative Twins video package?
The guys in my union haven't read a book since high school, alright?
They don't give a fuck about this.
Same, same.
Hey, but they're buying books, and they're buying books by TKW.
Listen, I went on Amazon, you know, I'm Brooklyn, I'm a trades guy, I went on the website, you know, I couldn't find one book written by the Hodge twins.
What is up with that?
You should at least have two by now.
I'm always going down like a coffee break.
We go and we sit in the shanty.
Everyone gets their bacon, egg and cheese and their coffee.
And then this one guy, Bobby, he turns to me and says, Hey, hey, Sean.
What's up, man?
You know, I tried to go on Amazon the other day and I was looking around to try to find that book about all the trans that are going into the bathrooms and trying to take it over.
And Bezos blocked that, bro.
They're fucking globalists.
They're fucking woke, man.
Oh, burn them down.
I tried to go and buy that one racist Dr. Seuss book.
I had the title in front of me at the time.
I can't remember what it was, but I wanted to buy it to prove that it wasn't racist.
And the price was $300.
And that's what Bezos is doing to us.
I would say that, yeah, like, all my conversations with my coworkers are about, like, annoying customers.
Like, customers that, like, we don't like.
Or how heavy the workload was that day.
Or how, like, you know, stupid our managers are.
I had one guy Show me an anti-trans meme, uh, three years ago.
Uh, and it's, it wasn't like the big guy with, with hairy forearms and tattoos.
It was like the dorkiest guy there who like showed me this, this meme about, you know, uh, trans women in bathrooms.
And I just told, I was like, Oh, that sucks, dude.
I don't, I don't like that shit.
Don't show me that shit.
Oh man, I thought it was so much cooler when I thought it was like a big jacked guy because I thought it was crazy that you murdered him for it.
Alexander says trans rights and just beats the shit out of him on the job.
Just destroys him.
No, I said, um, I said like those, uh, those folks, they have a really hard time in society.
Like they already have a really, a really uphill battle.
And I don't, I don't appreciate like making that battle harder for them.
And he like did, he did not have anything to say to that.
I mean, to the extent that something called working class values actually exists.
To the extent that it's not something that, like, upper middle class, like, media type people are imposing upon working class people.
Usually thinking probably specifically of, like, People from the Deep South, you know, white workers from the Deep South, or like, you know, guys from out on Long Island who, like, get really into Sean Hannity or whatever.
But to the extent that something that can be classified as working class values exists, the working class can only be defined that way in the fact that it works, that it has to work.
Like, there's no spanning the diversity of the working class.
The only value that you can imagine is something like having a union, Or is something like having dignity on the job and good wages?
Because otherwise it's such a broad category that you couldn't even pinpoint what those values are.
They're certainly not cultural.
I mean, it's also like dog whistling in the sense of like, you know, your Starbucks barista, they don't know what it's like to have working class values.
You know, or the year, uh, your, whatever your, your server in, in Brooklyn, they don't know what it's like to be a re you know, a real, a real hard worker or whatever.
Yeah.
It's, it's tapping into that sort of idea that like saying working class means like a white, you know, day, a white laborer or whatever.
Um, Archie bunker, uh, this, this part here is funny.
It isn't clear whether the union effort is driven primarily, oh no no, do do do, uh, ye, where was it?
I think I scrolled past it.
Uh, yeah, okay.
Uh, uniquely malicious corporate behavior like Amazon's justifies a more adversarial approach to labor relations.
So it justifies forming a union as the adversarial approach.
And I mean, Amazon is crazy.
They literally changed their traffic lights that exit the property at various warehouses, like this one in Alabama, so that the red lights wouldn't last as long, so that people involved in the union drive couldn't talk to people as they were parked at the light or whatever.
Things like that.
That's so wild.
So wait, hold on.
He's saying that Amazon is particularly egregious as a company, but he's not talking about labor rights.
He's not talking about the fact that workers are thrown into this machine where they just become a cog and they're controlled by algorithms and they can't piss.
What he's saying is egregious is their wokeness and their globalism.
Yeah, he's saying that uniquely malicious corporate behavior like, you know, banning the Tucker Carlson 14 words book or whatever is why the workers are going to strike, why the workers are going to form a union.
I'm definitely going to put my job on the line for that, I tell you.
It is no fault of Amazon's workers if they feel the only option available to protect themselves against bad faith is to form a union.
Bad faith?
What does that even mean?
He's not a fan of the podcast.
Yeah.
Today it might be workplace conditions.
But tomorrow it might be a requirement that the workers embrace management's latest quote woke human resources.
He's just making that up Yeah, well, I mean to be fair like some companies have adopted, you know What is it for white fragility stuff in in like they're you know, they give seminars, but that's like That's corporate stuff.
That's, like, middle management stuff.
That's not really what's going on here.
But that's also part of, like, workplace conditions.
If that were to happen, that is still workplace conditions.
And to, you know, set it aside as, like, a woke thing versus a, you know, a workplace condition or whatever is also just belies, like, what he thinks wokeness is or what he thinks.
Like.
Culture is versus materialism.
I mean, I mean, also, the only way you get even the most rudimentary free speech rights on the job is by having a union.
I mean, we all all of us have worked at will before, right?
And you could come in and be dressed a little schlubby and you get thrown off the job because they don't have to justify it.
Whereas if you have a union, like this went through the NLRB, like this has been ruled upon, if you're in a union and your freedoms are in the contract, you could tell people to go fuck themselves.
You can talk about whatever you want on the job, but only if you have that protection of having a union.
So the whole idea of like, oh well, they might want it now, blah blah blah, it's bullshit.
A guy at one of my buildings swung at a manager and got his job back.
Hell yeah, dude.
Those are the best stories.
I love it.
That rules.
That fuckin' rules.
I mean, I've never been part of a union, so I can only dream of those things.
And I've done all the trade stuff, but I want that so bad.
He was a shop steward, though, so you do have to put in some time, I think, to get that level.
Gotta get the certification so you can throw a punch at the boss.
Gotta get certified.
Yeah, you gotta get forklift certified so you can grab them like in Aliens.
You have to get your OSHA 60 so you can rip his spine out like in Mortal Kombat.
Me get over there?
No, you get over here!
Yeah, I just, I love that.
Today it might be something that matters, but tomorrow it might be just another meeting that HR forces you to take.
Like, in a sea of annoying meetings about HR policy, about what you can say or what you can't say.
Again, if that's the case, he should be supporting unions in every single workplace, right?
And those sort of free speech protections.
So it should just be Amazon, right?
It should be everywhere that, like, white fragility is being taught, and there's, like, wokeness seminars or whatever the fuck he thinks going on.
Man, this op-ed is really long.
I didn't read the whole thing, but there's funny paragraphs in here.
Adversarial labor relations are generally harmful.
When it is a good American company, for example, certain American automakers, adversarial relations risk hurting labor and management alike by causing American industry to lose ground to foreign competition.
And too often the right to form a union has been, in practice, a requirement that business owners allow left-wing social organizers to take over their workplaces." And it's funny because, yeah, it's just like, it's this weird dance that he's doing around saying that, yeah, like, workers' rights are a left issue.
Like, workers' rights are a left value, and so by having a union, you're allowing leftist organizers to take over your workplace.
And it's like, yeah, those are just the workers.
That's just what they are.
That's their relationship.
Crazy stuff.
Yeah, I don't think there is a future in right-wing pro-unionism.
I don't think, you know, culturally... I mean, it's like... I mean, I realize that unionism is like the centrist solution
Uh to to capitalism capitalism in crisis, you know, it's it's liberalism in in that respect, which is a right-wing capitalist Ideology, but in terms of like the republican party how far right they are I don't think they're ever going to make the shift into being pro-union just in order even if it would mean like Owning, uh, mark fuckerberg or whatever.
Yeah I mean, look how mealy-mouthed Marco Rubio had to be just to, like, blandly say that maybe in this case, for wokeness reasons, these particular workers might need a little bit more, like, collective bargaining on the job.
Like, the...
The space that has to be traversed between what Marco Rubio is saying and Republicans truly capturing trade unions, or even rank-and-file union members, is so far.
Because he can't even say the simple things like, not that the most egregious companies deserve to be unionized, but that unionizing is an American right!
It's a right of association, it's a right of free speech, the sort of shit that you'd hear Democrats saying.
That's what's funny.
If it's going to happen, this is not the way.
I kind of appreciate the idea of pandering using what's popular amongst them, but with longevity and doing anything with it, there are other options and this is not it.
Like you said, this should be an American value.
That should be the route, but this is a weird angle.
I think I figured out who it's for.
It is for the weird union guys who are, like, neck deep in the culture war.
Because those people do exist.
Like, you don't talk about that shit at work, but I see them all the time, like, online, people in my Teamsters groups, who find every opportunity to, like, say that Joe Biden is destroying jobs in this country or whatever.
And I also see like, you know, the occasional Trump bumper sticker in my distribution center parking lot, you know, that I know belongs to a driver, a union guy.
So I think there is, there are people and those people probably...
Half of them, I would say, don't like the union because they think, in theory, it makes other people lazy.
Now, could those people point to any of their co-workers and say, this person's lazy, this person's lazy?
Probably not, or at least they wouldn't if they knew what was good for them.
But I think there is, in the zeitgeist of the right-wing mind, unions are like, you know, a hindrance more than a help, despite that person being able to buy a house with their union wage, or being able to give their spouse health care, that sort of thing.
And I think maybe that's who this op-ed is for, just to remind, just to give paid lip service to the union members who are right-wing.
Because they would like to see this this effort if only to own Jeff Bezos and the wolf mob.
Right, it's like this Trumpian politics of resentment that does exist, you're right, in the unions.
I don't know what percentage, 15, 20 percent, the guys who like are into triggering libs and would actually pay attention enough to Tucker Carlson to know what the You know, the Wokeness Wars are all about.
But like, if you really wanted, if the Republicans really wanted to capture the unions, and capture the union membership, they'd have to capture the union bureaucracy.
Right?
They'd have to, like, actually integrate themselves, as the Democrats have done, into union leadership.
And that's happened!
Like, in my union, we have to do picket duty every year, like, do political activity.
Yeah.
Or else we had fined for it.
And one year when I was working on Staten Island, I literally went out and handed out flyers for a Republican.
It was a Republican woman running for Congress.
My union was endorsing her.
Why were they endorsing her?
Not because she was like anti-woke or whether she was woke or whether she agreed with Tucker Carlson or Torre or whatever.
It was because she had pledged to pay for a bunch of infrastructure and was going out there and talking about union rights and putting her money where her mouth was.
If Republicans want to do that, then they might have a shot at it.
I'm saying in the larger sense, this is one woman on Staten Island.
If they want to do that, then they might have a shot at this.
But just appealing to that 15 or 20% of angry, resentful workers who hate their unions, maybe they'll succeed in getting the union decertified.
Maybe that's a sort of end-runaway, causing chaos within the unions.
But I don't think it's going to work in some sort of broader, national, political way.
Yeah, not at all.
Just very interesting.
So the union drive, the voting is continuing through March 29th.
The voting by mail that Amazon tried to put a stop to is still going to continue.
So we won't know the results of this huge union drive.
We wish them all the best.
And now you have Marco Rubio behind you.
So, I can't see this failing.
Alright.
Win it for a victory against wokeness.
Do it for Lil Marco.
Okay, so moving on to just...
Wow, an amazing bit of news that has MDC written all over it.
From CBS News, this is written by Lee Cohen.
Headline is, High School Girls Basketball Announcer Blames Diabetes For Racist Remarks Toward Girls Who Kneeled During National Anthem.
Incredible.
Just an amazing headline.
It's not something you see every day.
Reading here, a high school sports announcer has come under fire for racist remarks he made about a girls basketball team while they were kneeling during the national anthem.
On Friday, the announcer blamed his actions on diabetes.
That's like in that Wilford Brimley commercial where he's like, if you have diabetes, N-word!
Yeah.
It's like that one Snickers commercial with Richard.
What's his name?
Kramer.
They give him the Snickers bar and then he turns back into somebody who doesn't say the N-word.
In public.
In mixed company.
It's a blood sugar thing.
Michael Richards, that's his name.
There you go.
What a fucking unmemorable name.
I dare you to remember that name.
Kramer's a good one.
Yeah.
I hope he never gets called Michael Richards in public.
I hope he only gets called Kramer.
How is your name Michael Richards, but your character's name is Cosmo Kramer?
That's some compensation if I ever heard it.
A high school sports announcer has come under fire for racist remarks he made.
Matt Rowan made the remarks Thursday at a game between Norman High School and Midwest City in the Oklahoma 6A State Basketball Tournament.
In a recording of the broadcast, broadcasters are heard telling viewers that the broadcast would return after the national anthem, but the mics were never turned off while the anthem played.
When the girls from Norman High kneeled, broadcaster Rowan immediately criticized them saying, I hope Norman gets their ass kicked.
Uh, and you're like, uh, okay, yeah, that's pretty racist.
Like, you know, getting mad at people for kneeling or whatever.
That's got all the signs.
At this point I'm like, at least he didn't talk about their hair.
He's left their hair out of this.
So this is, that's not that bad.
I hope Norman gets their ass kicked.
Fuck them, I hope they lose, he said.
If they're going to kneel like that, hell no.
He then called the students the N-word.
Oh no, there it is.
It's so casual!
He then called them the N-word.
Yeah, he then relayed into the microphone that the girls were the N-word.
Video of the live broadcast was recorded and shared online.
So, once again, this is a girls' high school basketball game, which are being broadcast because, you know, they don't want people in attendance, so they actually play them on, like, TV, which is kind of cool.
Except in this instance, I suppose.
Think of all the N-words we missed before they were doing it.
He immediately starts talking over the national anthem.
He immediately starts talking about how disrespectful the girls are for kneeling during the National Anthem that he is, again, talking over.
And he's just so mad.
He's just so mad about the disrespect to the National Anthem.
They're making him disrespect the National Anthem, which is a bridge too far, and I think that's why he said it.
I think that's why he said the word.
Yeah, yeah.
And like, what's funny is, I think he does just, I think there's like a pause and then he just says it.
Yeah, I think he says, uh, fucking n-words.
Uh, we're not gonna play that audio.
You can hear it if you want.
You can go listen to that shit.
But you know what the word sounds like.
Yeah, yeah.
You've listened to enough rap and hip-hop.
It sounds like Fat Joe.
It sounds just like how Fat Joe says it on the latest Benny the Butcher song.
Says the hard R. It's crazy.
Like, he says the R. Hard.
And it's like... I'm pretty sure you're... Okay, alright.
I don't... Why is this happening?
It's real weird.
In a press statement released on Friday, Rowan said he, quote, most regrettably made some statements that cannot be taken back.
And blamed his remarks on a spike in blood sugar.
I was so crazed by the sugar that I was saying all kinds of words and that was just one of the words that I said.
Which I'm like double offended by because it's just fucking rude to use a disease that has plagued black America for so long as your excuse.
Oh, you mean racism?
That's all we need.
We just need insulin for racism.
I mean, look, there's like, what is there, like 65,000 words in the English language?
I mean, we want to blame this guy, but there is a non-zero chance that due to his blood sugar spiking, that was one of like the 67,000 words that he picked.
It's a Tourette's sort of thing.
How many words has he said in his life?
Like, there's only so many words you can say before you say that one.
It's just one of the words, you know?
Yeah, especially, I mean, with the prevalence of hip-hop music these days, I really shouldn't be surprised.
Listen, call me a centrist or whatever, I don't think anyone should have diabetes.
Yeah.
I don't think anyone should be having diabetes.
I think no one should be playing with diabetes, no matter where you come from.
Whether you're a rap star, whether you're a girls high school basketball announcer, no one should be saying this kind of stuff, you know?
Yeah.
I will state that I suffer type 1 diabetes and during the game my sugar was spiking.
While not excusing my remarks, it is not...
He like turned into Cornholio, but instead of talking about his butthole, he just said the N-word.
He can't help it.
So wild.
While not excusing my remarks, it is not unusual when my sugar spikes that I become disoriented and often say things that are not appropriate as well as hurtful.
It's not unusual to say random things or it's not unusual for him to just say the n-word when his sugar spikes?
It's the word he keeps coming back to?
Oh, hurtful things.
Yeah, he called his dog a bitch.
It was a male dog, too.
It wasn't the appropriate kind.
He called his father-in-law a Jew.
He is Jewish, but he didn't mean it like that.
He meant it the other way.
He's just hurtful when his diabetes is acting up.
I also like to imagine that he sounded a little confused when he said it.
Like there was a question mark at the end of it.
What's funny is, yeah, he probably sounds like a lot of guys with diabetes, but, like, that's just, uh, that's just a... a coincidence.
Well, let me ask you a question.
He's just, like, he's literally, like, man, I hate those girls.
Yeah.
They're off, like, look at that.
Look at that disrespect.
And they're, like, both, like, talking to each other, like, man, I fucking hope they lose.
I care so much about, uh, this high school girls basketball game.
Hope they fucking lose.
And there's a pause, and he just goes, yeah, fucking, uh...
Yep, yep.
It's all droned out and delirious.
I mean, again, there's all these words in the English language.
I think it's probable that he has this repository of words that he might say when his blood sugar has spiked, and that the N-word is within that.
So, like, there's the K-slur in there, there's the R-slur, there's, like, the D-slur, there's all sorts of slurs in there.
What's the D-slur?
Oh, okay, I got it.
Yeah.
No, he actually went on to say, he said, why would I say the N-word on here?
Do I look like an arselor?
Like, this guy's hopeless. um What if he just called him Wops instead?
That's the wrong, the wrong phrase to use.
Fucking Wops.
That would be, I would believe you had a spike in sugar.
I would believe you were having diabetes.
That's random enough.
He knows it's bad.
He knows it's bad enough to where he has to be like, oh man, I gotta, I gotta think of something good here.
These goddamn eye ties, they make my blood boil.
And the other announcer's like, hmm, not the way I would have gone with it.
Rowan has not returned CBS's news request for comment.
I also love, while not excusing my remarks, here's my excuse.
It's diabetes.
This is the rest of his statement.
I am a family man.
I am married, have two children, and at one time was a youth pastor.
Yeah, that all sounds racist to me.
All these things are racist things.
If you're a white guy doing those things, probably couldn't be racist.
You didn't hear the next one.
I continue to be a member of a Baptist church.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I wonder what kind of Baptist church.
I wonder if it's a white Baptist church.
I'm going to guess.
I'm going to guess.
Yeah.
I have not only embarrassed and disappointed myself, I've embarrassed and disappointed my family and friends.
God, I'm just so disappointed with my actions.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
During this time, I was with a colleague and friend, Scott Sapulpa.
Scott Sapulpa was not the one that made these comments.
It was me and me alone.
It is not my desire to shirk my responsibility.
It wasn't a tag-teamed n-word.
Well, that's what's... if you have a friend, you just say half of it.
Yeah.
They can't accuse you of anything.
I mean, it is like what fucking people do on 4chan and Twitter where they just type out the word letter by letter because they're all like hive mind racist freaks.
It's so stupid.
It's tough though, because you start the word and you don't know if your friend's going to finish with the hard R or not.
You don't know how bad it's going to be until your friend comes out with it.
Rap fan or bigot?
I don't know.
Kid at the skate park or bigot?
This is the best part though.
This is the most Minion Death Cult part.
While the comments I made would certainly seem to indicate that I am racist, I am not.
I've never considered myself to be racist, and in short, cannot explain why I made these comments.
All evidence to the contrary, I am not a racist.
I love that he's even acknowledging that saying that word would theoretically make you sound like a racist.
I can see how some people would think me saying the racial slur in anger at the correct race would make me seem like a racist.
But I can't explain why, but I'm not one.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, you got it all wrong.
No one knows me like me, and let me tell you about myself.
I am, in fact, not a racist.
I have all kinds of dark thoughts.
I don't even see color.
I was just guessing.
I mean, the whole thing falls apart, of course, when the girls were kneeling, which was a BLM thing, like Colin Kaepernick, and we all remember all the rhetoric around that.
It doesn't seem to me that this was a random time to come out with the racial slurs, you know?
No, and he could have just said the appropriate, the PC version of the N-word, which is the K-word, which is kneeler.
Kneelers, yeah.
He could have just called them dirty kneelers or whatever.
We saw that a lot during the Colin Kaepernick era when we were starting this podcast.
That was the new N-word, which started with a K. The only time I'm sad about that one, him not doing that, is that he would have doubled down on that one.
He would have been like, I didn't say anything bad.
No, totally.
You could have gotten away with it.
Yeah, if it weren't for those meddling n-words.
If it wasn't for the meddling live mic I was on.
Yeah, I just love that because we've gone from like, no, I hate Colin Kaepernick more than I hate every cop who shot like an innocent unarmed person.
I hate Colin Kaepernick, you know, more than the boss that steals my wages every fucking hour of every day.
But that doesn't mean I'm racist.
Like, I'm not racist for being just obsessed with black football guy who has an afro and a black turtleneck, you know?
Like, I'm not a racist.
And now it's moved to just shouting the, not shouting, but, you know, assertively saying the N-word at children and then also saying, but I'm not a racist.
Yeah.
Well, it shows how much can be packed into, like, the flag and the national anthem, right?
That you can believe that you're not racist, except that when you see the disrespect of these symbols, all of a sudden, before you know it, if your blood sugar spikes, you're saying the N-word.
Yeah, and you know what I blame?
I blame gaming.
I blame Twitch streaming.
They've taught these boomers that it is okay to say the N-word when you're mad.
It's okay to say it if you're just having a heated gaming moment, and I think that's what happened here.
I think he was in the middle of an intense game.
Things got a little out of control.
I think the solution, as always, is boomers log off.
Bad influence on boomers.
You guys know that more than anybody.
Okay, so the response to this was wild.
The response in the Fox News comment section was Incredible.
A bit alarming, I would say.
I want to read just a funnier, maybe, response that I saw in the hill.
For this article.
Somebody brought Kamala into it.
They were like, I don't care about these high school girls, but you know, I hate Kamala Harris.
It's like, okay.
While we're talking about black women.
Yeah.
While we're on the topic of black women.
I didn't want to bring up race.
Yeah.
But while we're here and then common man with a K for Kamala maybe says, replies.
Does the woman of color make your manhood shrivel up to less than the usual child size the typical Trumpy male suffers from?
That dude screen grabbed that and it's on his Tinder profile now.
Left this comment on the board the other day on Fox News.
Yeah.
Hashtag ally.
Tell me you're down without telling me you're down.
I love this response because this is like the K-Hive response to any criticism of Kamala or like one of her like, you know, woke military budget analysts or whatever that they're installing.
They go immediately to, oh, what's the matter?
You couldn't get it up when you're thinking about her?
A real man would have fucked her raw.
What's your problem?
Yeah, what's your deal?
Very interesting way to go with it, but I admire it.
It's pretty to the point.
The only way that you can be a positive male is if you embrace all the bad parts about you.
Sure.
That's what they're doing here, you know?
Yeah, I just think, like me, as a political consumer, I get an erection when a politician says, like, sensible programs and, you know, sensible fiscal policy, balancing the budget, that sort of thing, and then it makes my pee-pee sad when I see a politician that I don't like.
You guys don't even want to know what gets Brooklyn Dad to fire it off.
Start a business in a low-income area and receive like 10% off your Pell Grants with a tax return or whatever.
He is just rock hard after that shit, man.
Yeah, Brooklyn Dad became a Brooklyn Dad after Clinton announced welfare reform.
That was the night it happened.
Nine months later.
And then Pop Mooney replies to Common Man, nope, I've had my piece of sweet potato pie.
Grew up in Los Angeles, the good old college days.
No, no, listen, back in college I used to fuck black women, but you know, so I can't, I've had my sweet potato pie.
Sweet potato pie!
Well, you know what, do you know what is on sweet potato pie?
Cinnamon.
Brown sugar.
Brown sugar.
Yeah.
I guess.
I'm guessing.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I love that!
What the fuck?
Just wait, wait, it keeps going.
Common Man replies, well, some fellers have only pies and KKK crusty ill-used sock puppets while the rest of us enjoy life with the ladies, but you do you.
And then Pop Moon, he replies, chuckle time, space, exclamation point, exclamation point.
I was involved in the music industry in the LA area in the 70s.
I taught MJ how to moonwalk.
Uh, excuse, excuse me, excuse me, that is a step too far.
That is a fucking step too goddamn far.
I am pissed.
Listen, I admire him as a singer, but when I saw MJ Moonwalk, I said, I know Pop Mooney's behind this.
I know there's a white guy who fetishizes black women that's behind these moves.
You get enough sweet potato pie, man.
You're teaching MJ to moonwalk.
Yeah, I actually came up with that move after a long night of...
Of rockin' the casbah with some brown sugar.
And then he also says, I'm 70 plus years old, had more than my fair share of fine ladies in my life.
So, Pop Mooney, hey, respect.
Yeah, Pop Mooney fucks.
I think Pop Mooney rocks.
Uh, that's, that's literally the most wholesome comment we're gonna get, uh, on this topic, was a guy saying, hey, uh, some of my best lays have been black women.
Yeah, but I wouldn't, but not Kamala.
Um, which I mean, also, I actually, now I think about it, I agree with that entire sentiment.
Cool, man.
Put it on your Tinder profile.
These are the responses in the Fox News comment section.
Forrest Oak had the top comment and he says, if the players are free to express their feelings, then this guy should as well.
There is little difference between the two.
Both are protected free speech and both are intentional insults.
That is what I love.
They see kneeling as us yelling racial slurs at them.
Yeah.
This was a high school game?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so the difference is that you, as the announcer of this, are doing employment.
You are working a job.
And so actually, their free speech and your free speech aren't the same, because you can't get arrested for saying the N-word at them, but you can sure as fuck be fired.
Yeah.
At will employment.
There's stuff that you can't say at school, too, that'll get you into trouble.
You know, get you expelled, or get you suspended, or get you detention, or whatever, but schools have rightfully, to this degree at least, accepted kneeling as an acceptable form of protest.
But yeah, like you said, Tony, it's just like when that knee hits the floorboard, it's just cracker.
That's the sound they hear.
I think that's cool.
I love it when black women call me Cracker, actually.
And I'm putting that on my Tinder profile.
This is the top comment.
It had 300 upvotes.
331 upvotes.
I want to know what he means by it.
If the players are free to express their feelings, then this guy should as well.
He did.
We heard it.
Yeah.
He did express his feelings.
It happened.
What are you actually saying?
Like, what are you trying to say without actually saying it?
They're trying to say all words matter because you can't differentiate between political speech of these high school students on the one hand and just drop it n-bombs on live TV.
This is definitely all words matter.
That's exactly what this is.
And it's also like these girls should be punished too.
If we're going to punish him, punish these girls.
Yeah okay um this is where this is where it just goes uh bad really really bad uh just gsic says i am a united states marine there is nothing that would put me over the edge more than to see americans comma disrespecting our national anthem and flag Anyone who does should be thrown off whatever team they're on, comma, high school, comma, college, comma, or professional.
NO EXCEPTIONS!
And this actually had more upvotes.
This wasn't the top one I saw, but it has 430 upvotes.
Um...
I'm a United States Marine, and I would gladly throw myself on the grenade that is the N-word if I were able to get high school girls expelled.
Yeah, I would also do it.
Yeah, it's also just like, they think it's bigoted to kneel, so they're also saying bigots can't play sports.
Which would fuck a lot of people over.
There'd be entire leagues that don't exist.
Entire leagues that couldn't exist.
This is beyond bigotry.
This is beyond petty quote-unquote racism.
This is about hating America.
This goes beyond that.
There's never been a genocide against a race.
There have been multiple genocides against Americans.
It was called World War II.
That's a real thing.
Yep.
That's a real thing that people think.
And marines like Jizzik put their lives on the line to protect us.
To make sure it doesn't happen again.
This is what they're all focused on.
They're all focused on how rotten these girls are.
They're the ones who made me say the word.
If they didn't do that, then I wouldn't have said the word.
It put me over the edge.
As a United States Marine, I have been trained in combat, I have been trained to, uh, to a certain level of, what is it called, like, uh, ceremony?
Where you have to, like, stand still while your commanding officer, like, flicks your dick or whatever?
Like, I have been trained in all these things, but if I saw a fucking 16-year-old girl take a knee, Even I would be.
Do this shit in front of a British Royal Guard.
I dare you to do this.
You're gonna get impaled on whatever spear they carry.
They're gonna chop your head off.
Immediately.
HardRocker22 says, so how is it now that one outburst of passionate anger is worse than premeditated disrespect for this country?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh man, I fucking love that.
Imagine like a SWAT team breaking into like the team captain's bedroom and it's like booby-trapped with like rainbow glitter.
It's booby-trapped with like a banner that says like, Injustice Anywhere is Injustice Everywhere and the cops like, you know, are like strangled by the banner or whatever.
But they find plans.
They find detailed blueprints on how to kneel during this game.
It's just a text that says, Hey, we kneeling, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Group text.
It's a group text.
It's just who's responded to those things.
Yeah, and that's how we knew that it was premeditated.
This wasn't just in a fit of passion.
It wasn't like, you know, they saw their lover, which was justice, you know, being not served or whatever, and they lost their minds and did the kneeling.
Yeah.
I'm going to tell my kid to shut up a little bit.
I mean, who's to say?
Maybe they had blood sugar problems too.
Maybe they had diabetes too, right?
That's what nobody is saying.
Yeah.
That's unfair.
When my blood sugar pops, I just take a knee.
It's a fair excuse.
I love this, just outburst of passionate anger.
Just, it was, listen, I was temporarily insane with the love that I hold for this country.
And so yeah, and that's, it really is like the gamer excuse.
Like I was getting my ass kicked by a 12 year old and I lost my mind for a minute so I called him the n-word.
And nobody, nobody like points to the particular word that was used.
Right, so it is like the gamer where it's like, I was just really mad.
It's like, why that word?
Why the word?
Why that particular word?
We'll get there, Sean.
Alright, okay, okay.
I know we'll always get there in the end.
We'll get there together.
Forest Oak says, again, wow, this is the same guy as the top comment, so he's feeling himself.
He's like, oh shit, I got a pliable audience here.
Forrest Oak again says, the sad part is that those who kneel are doing more to promote racism than anyone else.
When you kneel, you are saying you oppose liberty and justice for all and are stating that you don't deserve to live in the USA.
And yeah, it's once again, it's the Obama made me racist argument, which we love so much on this show.
Indiana Mom, this is a great comment, said, I don't use that kind of language, and I don't condone it, but this once I have to say I can understand it.
Just this once.
No other circumstances, but this one right here.
I mean, we understand it too.
It's not a mystery as to why we said the word.
We know why it's happening.
We get it.
This show is predicated on understanding these things.
Yeah, we totally get why it's happening.
I love that... No, this makes total sense right here.
Whenever I see a group of high school girls, that's my thought.
Yeah.
A to B. It's a transitive property.
I'm beyond... She goes on.
I'm beyond sick and tired of the whole racist narrative.
Libs want free speech when it benefits them.
And so once again, this is like channeling the announcer himself by saying, I'm so sick of this racist narrative just because you say a couple N-words on live TV directed at black children.
They got to come up with some sort of, they got to play the race card.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Willows, this is the last comment, Willows says, he spoke the truth, a majority of Americans feel the same.
Whoa!
This was overwhelmingly the most common response.
Not even acknowledging that he said a slur, just saying, no, he's right, we all feel this way, literally all the time.
Literally all of us feel this way all the time, and it's about time somebody said something.
I mean, his sentiment though, not the actual N-word.
They're not even going into specifics but the article says that he says the n-word and so they just don't care.
I love that as like in the comment section as a way to absolve him like we're all thinking the n-word we think it all the time.
It's that thing too where they're saying listen like like it's not it's not our fault like I wouldn't call him that if they didn't act that way and and honestly I've never seen anyone who's not if you okay I'll say it black Who's not Black Neil, okay?
So, I'm just saying this is clearly a trait of that type of person.
And I'm just, if you're going to act like it, I'm going to call you it.
And kneeling is what they do.
That's exactly what it is.
Some of these people, like the more woke people in this comment section, were doing like a version of the Chris Rock joke where they were like, you know, these black people are becoming n-words by refusing to like better themselves, etc, etc.
Overwhelmingly, people didn't say whether or not they condoned the language or not.
They said this guy is cool.
They said this guy is cool and is saying the things that we think.
Listen, I may not agree with it, but he says it like he feels.
No, not even that preface.
Not even, I may not agree with it.
They're just wholeheartedly embracing, yes, I am a racist.
Yes, majority of Americans are sick of black people running their mouths.
And the issue, if there is an issue, isn't that somebody felt this way, but that somebody felt this way in public.
Yeah, no, totally.
Yeah, it was like, oh, white people are scared to say this stuff, which is the truth, or whatever.
Listen, they want to say it all the time.
And the backlash to this guy saying the N-word, that's the real racism.
That's bringing racism into what's otherwise just, you know, a guy with diabetes who had a heated gaming moment.
Well, it's also, I mean, it's also ableism.
Yes, that's right.
Okay, the response to Willow's is from a person whose handle is just2genders.
That's their handle.
That's your whole life.
Is it the number 2?
It's the number 2, yeah.
I wish it was Roman numeral, like boys to men.
I like that it's the number 2 because it reminds me of Jungle 2 Jungle, also a very racist movie.
Yeah, we're not sure who against, but for sure racist.
It's racist against white people if you see that dance scene in Central Park.
The amazing, amazing moment in cinematic history is the woman doing world music vocalizations while playing a bongo in Central Park and a Hasidic Jew dances across the screen.
It's a beautiful movie.
It's one of only, like, two things that have come up on this show more than once.
We've talked about this scene more than once.
Yeah, it's so good.
Jungle to Jungle, 1997 film.
I'm gonna have to, uh... Tim Allen, baby.
Tim Allen!
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Tim Allen has a son who was raised in, uh, what, an African, among an African tribe.
His name is Mimi Siku.
And he brings him back to the other jungle, the concrete jungle.
Real quick, Alex is not reading the word Mimisiku.
Alex remembered Mimisiku.
I want to make that very clear.
The man's good.
I want to watch Man of the House again.
Isn't that the one with Chevy Chase and Jonathan Taylor Thomas?
Yeah.
Where they join a version of the Boy Scouts where they're like a caricature of Native Americans instead?
Yeah, they say that one's racist against indigenous people.
Yeah.
I want to watch that one.
I'm sure that one's great too.
I tell ya, 1997 for me feels like just yesterday because I'm an old man.
But boy what a difference between 2021 and 1997 in terms of what sort of films can be made.
Holy shit.
Yeah, well you can't make the movie anymore because Tim Allen died, unfortunately.
But great that his legacy will live on through the media that is Jungle to Jungle.
Let me read Just2Gender's comment.
Last comment on this topic.
I didn't used to, but I'm about ready to be fitted for a hood.
I can I can no longer turn on the TV open a magazine or walk into a store without have a Multiracial family shoved down my throat Or hearing what a privilege it is to be white Like getting up at 5 a.m.
Working 12 out 12 hours a day 6 days a week is a privilege and And this comment had 64 upvotes.
We talked briefly about it on the episode with Brett about the value of privileged discourse and the limitations that it is.
With that said, I do think that it's not very valuable.
I do think that it's not conducive to working class solidarity.
I don't think it turns people into Klansmen.
I think you're probably already pretty racist if you hear the phrase white privilege on like Twitter or something like that or maybe if you're watching CNN like a freak you hear that phrase or whatever and then you're ready to quote be fitted for a hood.
I think there are some underlying factors at play.
Yeah, I mean, the least of it is that the phrase right before that was about miscegenation, right?
About multiracial couples, so... Yeah, well, no, that's a real thing, though.
Whenever me and my kid go out anywhere, we were in Target earlier today, we like to find, like, the whitest women possible, and what happens is, like, The kid will tackle him and I'll fish hook that person.
And it's a good time.
It's a good time.
And they know they can't do anything because if they do we're just gonna scream racism.
Yeah, the PC police will come and arrest them.
I don't let them go until they count the races that are attacking them.
Or count the genders.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know how I was like looking at this Comment section.
I was just like wow like this so they're doing that meme where it's like I'm a proud racist uh And then it's like an acronym, you know, where it's like, uh, responsible American conservative, you know, in society's, uh, toilet or whatever.
Like, whatever, whatever it is, you know, the, yeah, sure.
If you want to call me racist, I guess I'm a racist.
And it's like really cool guy, you know, or whatever.
You did nail it.
Toilet is part of the conservative diaspora.
That was really well done.
Thanks.
All these people are just doing the meme like, yeah, I'm racist now.
Whatever.
I don't give a shit.
I don't care about cloaking it in anything.
I think all these BLM people are racist against white people, so I feel totally comfortable ripping the mask off or ripping the hood off and being racist in public to a certain degree.
This is obviously a comment section, so it's not exactly the same thing.
Still, you would find some decorum in a Fox News comment section where they were just happy to dog whistle and happy to say all these things that are still very politically correct where you can be racist as hell against Colin Kaepernick or Beyonce or whoever and still nobody in polite society is really going to bat an eye.
They feel comfortable Now just leaving the dog whistle behind and saying, this guy who called children the n-word, he's cool.
I like him.
He's saying what I think.
And me, when I'm looking at all this, you've got to kill the liberal in your head, right folks?
My liberal brain is looking at this and I'm like, oh, this is valuable.
We're seeing the conservative movement openly admit that they're racist.
I don't know that this is valuable.
I don't know that this is, like, gonna be a revela... It's not gonna be a revelation to anybody.
Like, people who are... Like, even Democrats will be like, oh yeah, Republicans are racist.
Like, that's the one thing they will criticize Republicans on.
You know, they'll be like, oh, they're racist, uh, and they don't respect the police because the MAGA people killed, or whatever.
Like, that's the criticism they will level against them, is that they're racist.
It's just, like, this liberal, or this, like, I don't know if it's specific to liberal, but it is specific to a rhetorical idea of politics as opposed to a material or power-based idea of politics where you think that if you get them to admit that they're racist, you will win the argument or whatever.
You'll win the power if you get these people, oh look, oh my god, he admitted!
You know he's racist or whatever and it's like it doesn't matter like they're still they still have all the power like they like Trump said so much fucked up shit so much obviously fucked up yeah shit and he was still voted in he still won he still held the power and you can get like a you have the uh the people on the far right who are in power saying and doing very racist things while being in power.
And then you have the center who are doing the quote anti-racism, like this former CIA director who's like, "Yeah, I'm ashamed to be white," or whatever.
Like, those are our options here, and it's just like...
I guess getting these people to admit that they're racist feels like a victory, but it's like a hollow one because it's not really going to change anything.
There still has to be a way of getting them out of power, I think.
Yeah.
Especially when you're a liberal and you look at this comment section and you call them racist, and they're like, yeah, that's cool.
That's good.
You're saying what I believe.
Yeah, what now?
There was a guy who was responding to every one of these comments with, and they say Trump supporters aren't racist.
Got him.
It had like 10 down votes, you know, like just not just a waste of fucking time.
Just like this show.
That was the 2018-2019 posting.
That guy, what's his name, Tiedrich?
The guy who would constantly cold-treat Donald Trump and be like, Sir, this is a Wendy's.
I mean, that shit was a growth industry for years now.
Yeah, so I just, I mean, this is like...
I guess valuable information to have in the sense that you know where these people are going.
They're going to embrace the most vulgar and fucked up parts of their pre-existing ideology.
This isn't going to change their policy.
They already have these policies in place that immiserate minority communities and just allow the state to murder
uh you know people of color at will these these are already exist but it is going to i maybe it will like harden the line between the two factions but that's not going to do anything in a sense of like actually affecting like reality maybe it will motivate people to take it more seriously i don't know I mean, they're still in this realm of, like, Marco Rubio, right?
Where it's this sort of cultural battle, where you're fighting on the terrain of, like, television, and you're fighting on the terrain of MSNBC versus Fox, or whatever, when, like, just like the Rubio thing, at the basis of it is, like, material power.
The power of workers to fight back.
So, too, in this Fox News comment, the real issue, as you said, is actual politics.
Actual power.
And they're not addressing that either.
Nobody's addressing the actual power at stake here.
Neither Rubio, nor them.
Because they already have the power, and Rubio's just nodding towards some sort of bizarre wokeness war.
Yeah, I think that's it for the episode.
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Oh yeah, sure.
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We too have a Patreon, but why don't you listen to us first to see if you like it before you throw money our way.
It's very generous of you.
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New one being recorded next weekend.
Hell yeah.
Love that show.
Thank you.
Okay, so that's the episode, folks.
Anything to add, Tony?
No.
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