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March 10, 2021 - Minion Death Cult

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So I guess I was a white man with a lot of privilege but I managed to overcome it.... w/Brett Payne

This week we cover enough senate democrats refusing to raise the minimum wage and the former director of the CIA dabbling in identity politics The positive: democratic voters are not buying excuses from their senators for not voting for the minimum wage increase The negative: "white privilege" discourse does not seem to be working Listen to Street Fight wherever you get podcasts or at http://streetfightradio.com Support Minion Death Cult and get a bonus episode every week at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult

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	Hey, just a quick note up top, uh, I know my audio is fucked up.
	The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... conservative humor gone awry is going to fascist-fornia today.
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	I'm Alexander Edward.
	And I'm Tony Boswell.
	And we are Minion Death Cult.
	The world is ending.
	Misogynist fighters for 15 are responsible.
	We're documenting it.
	What's up, everybody?
	It is your episode for the week.
	Very happy to have you here.
	Very happy to also have Brett Payne from Street Fight Radio here.
	How you doing, Brett?
	Doing great.
	Thanks for having me.
	Felt it was fair.
	I've done so much work with Brian, you know, over the last couple months.
	We needed to get some Brett in on the action here.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Tony, we'll have you soon on the Street Fight bonus feed as well.
	I was able to be on the butt fest, so no complaints here.
	I got to be a part of the Legendary Project.
	You should have had Tony on Rich Dad Poor Dad for the Poor Dad part of your show.
	We've got that covered.
	Um, we, I also, I was laughing because I was in the Minion Death Commandos and somebody posted, uh, so I just started listening to this butt fest thing.
	Do they eventually bring up the band Volbeat?
	It was the best thing I saw today.
	It got me out of bed.
	Like, I didn't want to get out of bed.
	I saw that and I was just like, oh man, I can't wait till this person hears it.
	Yeah, shout out to him.
	I can't remember his name right now.
	Long time listener, supporter.
	Yes, your patience will be rewarded.
	We are talking about Volbeat.
	On the episode with Tony Boswell, I believe.
	That's right, 2010.
	The episode on the 2010s of BuckFest 2000 is dropping.
	I think I'm gonna put it up today on the Patreon.
	Special guest, Tony Boswell.
	And I don't think I had any, I had no previous experience with Volbeat.
	Did you, Tony?
	No, no, but I definitely did end up going down the YouTube rabbit hole with Volbeat.
	And what's the other worst band ever?
	Oh, Theory of a Dead Man.
	Yeah, those two had me so entertained.
	Volbeat, I'm like a whole new rocker now.
	It's a rocker of a different breed, for sure.
	I think they're just like Swedish or something.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Very European, very Swedish.
	Scandinavian, maybe.
	Yeah, there is something about them that was revealed during the episode with the Elvis Presley tattoos.
	You're just getting American masculinity through a prism of Sweden.
	Yeah, it was like two non-American bands performing American masculinity.
	Theory of a Dead Man being from Canada.
	Trying to look like the most masculine figure in American culture, which is that guy from the Disney Channel show LazyTown.
	Yep.
	And then, yeah, the guy from Volbeat.
	I don't even remember what he looked like, but he definitely loved Elvis a lot.
	Oh yeah, he had like the slick back, thinning blonde hair.
	It was great.
	One of the wildest sounding bands I've ever heard.
	So yeah, you can hear both Bret Payne and Tony Boswell on the ButtFest 2000 miniseries.
	Bret Payne was on the episode of the 2000s.
	Very insightful commentary I feel from Bret Payne on that episode.
	And then yeah, Tony Boswell on a very fun episode on the 2010s at Patreon.com slash MinionDevCult.
	P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash MinionDevCult.
	You can hear that there.
	If you're already a subscriber to the MinionDevCult Patreon, you should subscribe to the Street Fight Patreon.
	Patreon.com slash Street Fight Radio, where they do a miniseries like that every month.
	They do some amazing stuff and amazing Amazing works on shock jocks, on televangelists, on what they're doing right now, which is rich dad, poor dad, self-help, like, masculine gurus who just, you know, shame people for eating off the dollar menu at McDonald's or whatever.
	Good stuff.
	Highly recommend that Patreon feed.
	Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
	We did Tony Robbins and Brian did have a breakthrough with Tony.
	After watching the video he realized that his first memory of his life was when he was about five years old or six years old and his brother and sister were in the laundry room and he was he was Being funny and was like, alright kids, I'm off to work.
	Like pretending to be dad.
	And he slammed the door shut and they got locked in the laundry room.
	And when he told his mom, his mom said, well I don't know what to do.
	I guess they're stuck in there forever.
	And walked away from him.
	And he told his therapist and his therapist was like, we have to talk about this.
	You know, in some ways you're still in that basement.
	And that's what I said.
	I was like, your life never changed from there.
	That was your defining moment.
	That's funny.
	My earliest memory is from when I was 12 years old, and I was watching Shallow Hal, and I saw Tony Robbins' cameo in Shallow Hal, where he tells poor people, you know, that, hey, what counts is on the inside.
	Yep.
	That's what matters.
	If you're fat, you're not fat actually.
	You're actually hot.
	You're actually hot, yeah.
	But you probably don't have enough money for one of his seminars.
	No.
	I saw, real quick, I saw a piece of a Tony Robbins seminar where he had a woman on stage who was like explaining her problem with her boyfriend.
	And Tony Robbins was like, don't do that to me.
	And she was like, what?
	He was like, touch your hair.
	I know what you're doing when you touch your hair.
	You're trying, you're trying to influence me when you touch your hair.
	Oh, women, they do this when they want to win a man over.
	It's not going to work on me, sweetheart.
	Okay.
	She was just like, I highly recommend the documentary on Netflix called I Am Not Your Guru.
	It's totally he made the documentary.
	It's 100% a commercial for Tony Robbins, but as long as you don't get sucked in, it's wild.
	He's terrible with relationship stuff.
	There's one point where this woman gets up and she reads this impassioned story about how she wants to Exchange cosmic energy with her lover and she wants to feel the entire universe together and all of this.
	And then Tony's like, well, are you in a relationship?
	And she's like, yeah, he's right here.
	And this guy gets up and he's just so tiny in the room.
	And Tony asked him to read his response, and he totally chokes.
	He was just like, uh, I want, like, uh, essences, like, mixing, um, and, uh, and he basically just, like, he says that, like, you need to be a man.
	You need to man up and, like, dominate this woman.
	And it's like, dawg, this is not the relationship they have.
	That lady is in charge of everything.
	Like, he's doing what he's told.
	And that's their thing, you know?
	You're not going to convince him to do anything otherwise than be a doormat.
	And Tony was all like, you know what?
	Pull your dick out right in front of all this whole crowd.
	Show them all what you got.
	Show them you're a real man.
	Yeah, let's get down to brass tacks here.
	Let's see what we're working with.
	I can't offer an informed advice without seeing everything.
	That's not fair, because Tony Robbins is huge, so at least proportionally, dude's got a huge cock.
	Sure.
	Isn't he like 6'7"?
	He's like 6'6"?
	Yeah, he's huge, right?
	He can palm a basketball.
	I know that much.
	I can catch a basketball with one hand, okay?
	Okay, I didn't call you small.
	Well, I heard that.
	I heard exactly that.
	Alright, so yeah.
	How about we talk some politics?
	I mean, you know, some real politics, by which I mean the Senate.
	The U.S.
	Senate.
	So, hooray, we got the COVID-19 relief bill passed, which admittedly had some good stuff.
	It extended unemployment benefits for shorter than we thought it would, and it gave stimulus checks to less people than Trump did.
	So that's good.
	It's very good.
	The piece that caught a lot of attention was the day before it actually passed, which was when they were voting on an amendment for the $15 minimum wage.
	The reason this amendment was included in the COVID-19 relief bill is because they were passing the COVID relief bill through budget reconciliation, which is a must-pass bill.
	It's a bill that will keep the government functioning And so therefore it only needs 50 votes to pass, or 51 votes to pass, a simple majority.
	And the reason I say, when I say things like it only needs that, that's just because that's what the Senate decides budget reconciliation needs.
	All these rules that we're talking about, they're not in the Constitution, they're just like Senate rules, as far as I can tell.
	They're just like self-imposed, The Senate is trying to take advantage of these self-imposed Senate rules where this is the one bill that only needs a simple majority.
	It can't be filibustered by Republicans or conservative Democrats and held up to a 60-vote standard.
	like much legislation is today.
	So, progressives, the more, quote, left members of the Senate were, like, Bernie Sanders, I think, is the one who proposed the $15 minimum wage increase and tried to add it to this, which, I mean, that's like a good bit of actual, you know, politics.
	This is like something that the Republicans would do.
	You know, you might call it like an underhanded technique to get what you want.
	But in terms of the content of the amendment, I think it's good.
	I think, you know, it's it's something worth doing a breaking the precious Senate rules or, you know, bending the precious Senate rules to do something like this.
	Yeah, I mean, I play board games harder than the Democrats try to do politics.
	I make up my own rules to get stuff done and see who doesn't notice.
	I don't know why they... I will never understand their call for decorum or niceness or getting Republicans on their side.
	They look terrible.
	I understand that as an excuse.
	I just don't understand why people fall for it.
	I don't understand why Democratic voters fall for it.
	It's, you know, I don't know, a lot of voters, you know, quote, vote against their own interests or whatever.
	Maybe all of those voters who fall for the decorum or fall for the like, We must have order.
	We must show the Republicans that we're better than them.
	Maybe they're all, like, financially stable.
	Maybe all those people don't actually, you know, give a shit about helping people.
	But that's the more bewildering part to me.
	I think the bottom thing is this is an easy one because the majority of the people that are going to be affected by this don't have like the time or bandwidth to pay attention to anything besides the politics that happen every four years.
	They're less likely to vote anyway.
	Like the people who are who are cool with this really truly think it's only people flipping hamburgers who they already hate because they get the order wrong are the ones being affected by this.
	Yeah, I always see the, like, Republican-Conservative thing about, like, if you promise to give people money, you're just buying their votes or whatever.
	And it's like, this is a good way to win.
	Buying the votes.
	And it does... I've heard it said as, like, a replay of the last election, which I think is right, is we need to work on people that aren't voting instead of trying to convert diehards on the other side.
	Because the non-voting bloc is a much bigger pool of people.
	And they don't have to go nowhere to notice that their check went up.
	and everyone knows who made the check go up. - Yeah, I mean, I think we'll probably, all of us agree, you know, we're talking about electoral politics here, but I think all of us agree, like, the only way to actually get real change is outside of the Senate.
	You know, this is not, you know, raising the minimum wage is like the least they could fucking do, the least these overpaid millionaire ghouls could do in the Senate or whatever.
	We definitely shouldn't, like, pin our hopes on getting people to vote for more progressive senators or whatever, but it is, I feel like, a wake-up call for a lot of people.
	I mean, we'll get into it here in a minute, but the response to this was really refreshing.
	The response to the minimum wage, $15 minimum wage amendment failing, because it failed on the backs of, I think, eight Democrats.
	I believe eight Democrats voted no.
	So we had the usual suspects like Joe Manchin.
	We had some interesting people like Chris Coons, for instance.
	The one who made the biggest splash was, of course, Kirsten Sinema, the darling of the LGBT, the darling of bisexual representation.
	And just like being an alt girl, you know, she's pretty alt when you think about it.
	Yeah.
	Went up there.
	And if you notice, before she gives the vote on the amendment, I didn't notice this at first.
	Somebody else pointed it out.
	She like says hi to Mitch McConnell on the way to when she's going to vote.
	She like walks by Mitch McConnell and like rubs his back and she's like, like, hey, how you doing?
	Kind of a thing.
	And he like looks over his shoulder, like what the fuck was that?
	And then she walks, and she looks back at him and waves again.
	And then when they ask her her vote, she does a stylized, almost kawaii, like, NO!
	DOWN VOTE!
	Yep.
	Super thumbs down.
	And then she walks off.
	She was trying to get meme.
	She was trying to turn into a new GIF online.
	She did.
	She did it.
	Oh man.
	So it was only after reading, like, The, you know, Democrats' responses on Facebook that I realized she was referencing John McCain.
	Do you guys know about this?
	That's the first time I even thought about that.
	But yeah, that's exactly what that is.
	That's what it is.
	She's because she's the senator from Arizona.
	Yep.
	Like John McCain, who famously saved Obamacare by voting no with a thumbs down, which was by voting no to repeal it, which was like a huge upset for the Republican Party.
	She was giving him props.
	She was like, I see you John, carrying your legacy.
	I'm not going to let bipartisanship happen.
	No, she was making bipartisanship happen.
	She was crossing the aisle.
	She was being a maverick by turning her thumb down, signaling the deaths of 800,000 people in Arizona to not get a pay increase.
	Like, that Southwest fry is real.
	I mean, it does something to everybody down there.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	It's really sad.
	The more inland you get, the more brutal it gets.
	It's really sad because the way that I found out about the reference to John McCain, because I remember that happening.
	So much has happened.
	People were saying, like, she's no John McCain.
	What if she, she could have done like a Kate McKinnon style like impersonation and put on a whole outfit and walk down.
	Yeah, that would have been good.
	So people knew because yeah, I don't, I guess I check in my memory Rolodex.
	I don't remember the most epic Senate moments.
	I don't, those, I don't know those like Jason movies, you know?
	I mean, well, I remember that most epic house moment, which was when Nancy Pelosi, uh, clapped for Donald Trump.
	Remember that one.
	Sarcastic clap.
	Those 8-bit glasses came over her face.
	A sarcastic clap, which she then said was genuine.
	Then you get some fucking clap room, you weirdo.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like we should say like a $15 minimum wage is a slap in the face.
	That shit is insane.
	And it's not just a $15 minimum wage, it's a, what is it, like a path towards a $15 minimum wage.
	It's like, minimum wage by 2028 or something was the amendment, which, I'm sorry Bernie Sanders, fucking come back, go back to the drawing board, alright?
	Yeah.
	Alex, keep your voice down.
	If they hear us, we're gonna lose it all.
	We're gonna be stuck with nothing.
	We gotta be thankful for what we got, man.
	Somebody pointed out also that the minimum wage was $7.25 like 10 years ago.
	Now it's worth $5.95.
	So the minimum wage has been lower.
	It's just only been going down.
	Yeah, I think it's been longer than 10 years that it's been $7.25.
	I think it's been $7.25 since like the 90s or something.
	And that's not even the tipped minimum wage.
	Which is like, what, $2 or something?
	$3?
	Yeah.
	We say it's an insult, and it is.
	It is insulting.
	But the reality of it is, the last few jobs in my life I've gone into, I've had to go in there with my whole chest and be like, I'm not coming in here for less than $15.
	And they're like, whoa, whoa, man wants the big bucks.
	When it's not at all.
	Well, yeah, I mean, it's like thirty-some thousand dollars a year.
	You can't rent any place for less than a thousand dollars a month anywhere in the country.
	That's half your fucking money is going to that.
	The numbers don't work.
	And then the Senate, they get a pension after being there for one term.
	They get like a hundred grand a year forever after they've done it.
	They have no idea what we need or want and shouldn't be...
	Shouldn't be in charge of any of that.
	In the HuffPost comment section, Thierry Davila said she, meaning Sinema, may agree with Manchin, who said he thought $11 an hour was adequate.
	Jesus!
	If I were the Democrats, I'd take him up on it and see what happens.
	Then we would get their votes and the bill would go through with 51 votes.
	Wow.
	So this is just like...
	An incredible mindset of like, hey, we should just get $11 a month on the only minimum wage bill that's ever going to pass for the next 20 years.
	We should be happy with that.
	Let's get what we can.
	Yeah, go ahead and empty out the trash for an entire neighborhood for one hour and they hand you a $10 bill and a $1 bill.
	Yeah, go for it.
	And that's, I mean, that's not even what you're bringing home.
	Eleven is not what you get.
	No.
	The gag of it all is that they're going to get 30% of it.
	Like if they give us more money, they're going to get, they're getting a raise too.
	Like the government, the United States government is getting more out of us too.
	And they'll probably put us in a fucked up tax bracket.
	Everyone's going to be like, no, no, no, no, no.
	I want to go back to seven because now I'm paying 60% of my income for $15 an hour.
	Her excuse for voting no was the decorum excuse.
	Her excuse was, I don't have the specific language here, but it was, this bill shouldn't be part, or this amendment shouldn't be part of the COVID relief bill.
	We should have a chance to open debate for all senators.
	She knows that it's not gonna pass without, you know, it's not gonna pass with 60 votes.
	Like, she's not an idiot.
	She knows that if this bill were separate from the reconciliation process, it would not pass.
	And it's just funny because, yeah, I'm sure other senators, other individual senators, Republicans too, have said, oh, you know, our workers need to be paid more or whatever.
	It doesn't matter when you go to the Senate.
	All that shit's out the window when you go to actually, like, make a change on something um so what else did she oh yeah and then she posted something afterward right it was like this is so powerful i I stand for frontline workers and I support them right here.
	She says, wow, incredibly grateful for Arizona's frontline workers caring for our loved ones during the pandemic.
	And then she shared a video from the New York Times that was about nurses during the pandemic.
	And certified nurses assistants, home caregivers, all these people are people that make less than $15 an hour.
	All these people who are literally saving lives, who are putting their own lives on the line for fucking starvation wages.
	And in an attempt to like, you know, do damage control or whatever, she put this post out and everybody was just like, really?
	You should have gone private.
	You should have just put your accounts on private for like two weeks or five days and you would have been better off because this is insane.
	And I was very heartened to see the responses on Even the Boomer Democrat Facebook groups who were doing things like calling her a biatch and shit.
	It was like 50 year old black ladies calling her a biatch.
	It was like great.
	I loved it.
	And even on her Facebook post, like the top, I don't know, 45 comments were all people like, we're going to vote you out.
	You suck.
	I'm from Arizona and you're awful.
	Yeah, I saw multiple posts from people who live there who were like, oh, I've just registered to vote.
	I haven't voted yet.
	I've now registered to vote in Arizona.
	Yeah, good.
	Yeah, that rules.
	That's sad, but that's what it took.
	But yeah, I hope she's fucking done.
	Yeah, and there's just no... It's just frustrating because the people in the Senate...
	You know, they're all looking out for themselves, but they can't even get on the same team the way the Republicans do.
	The Republicans are just so fan- They all hate each other!
	Like, if they could openly kill each other, they would.
	But they also can come together to say, this is what we're doing, and we're going to shove it down their fucking throats, you know?
	And not feel bad!
	I don't know if these people that didn't vote, they're just playing for their Republican people in their state?
	They think that they have to show that they're reasonable and they're not going to charge a small business owner or make a small business owner increase their pay or something?
	I don't know what the play is.
	Well, the Republicans can align along class interests, right?
	It's just they hate each other personally, they call each other, say each other's wives are ugly or whatever, but they all have the same interests at the end of the day.
	And Democrats do too, but I think there's a lot of Democrats who rightfully realize that Raising the minimum wage, preserving Social Security, preserving Medicare, even doing something like Medicare for All will actually like stabilize their class interests.
	These are all million, these are all still millionaires who are interested in like Not seeing their heads on pikes, or not seeing the country, you know, totally run into the ground.
	They're not going to do anything that would actually threaten their own class interests, but they're probably looking at the long-term vision.
	I would like to continue to be a millionaire on a livable planet.
	How about that?
	And, and, but people like Cinema or Mansion, uh, for whatever reason don't see the same benefit of that, you know?
	Cinema hasn't gotten her bag yet, I think.
	Maybe that's the problem.
	Well, she definitely had a bag with her.
	She definitely brought that big old bag up there with her.
	The Lululemon $500 bag?
	Yeah, but not the bag you speak of.
	Mark Kelly, the other senator from Arizona, voted yes on the amendment.
	Wow.
	Like, they didn't even talk about it.
	Yeah, so there were, of course, as always, some Democratic pragmatists who I spotted while researching this topic.
	It's kind of when you hang out with an embarrassing group of people, though, and it's just like someone Mitch McConnell's around and you want to seem powerful, and you're just like, no, I'm not really with them, though.
	I think they're weak and shit.
	I go my own way.
	Yeah.
	Justin says people were complaining about Biden signing this bill that didn't raise the minimum wage at all, which he fucking campaigned on, of course.
	Justin said, actually, it was great to see him make the bill more liberal by not supporting handouts to one percenters.
	Oh, I remember this.
	I saw some... I do not know what he did, but I immediately saw some tweets like, well, if people knew what he was actually doing, they wouldn't be criticizing him right now, you know?
	Well, this is a reference to lowering the threshold for stimulus checks from What, $100,000, which is already, like, stupid in general, down to, I think, $80,000 or something?
	$75,000.
	$75,000.
	Yeah, well, I think at $75,000 you start getting less money, and then at $80,000 it just stops.
	- Yeah, well I think at 75 you start getting less money and then at 80,000 it just stops, period.
	And this is great.
	This is a great way to do government.
	It's great that you just have to have like five more pages of language in your bill that you pass.
	It's supposedly like an emergency bill to help keep the government and the country afloat.
	And I love that.
	It was actually great to see him make the bill more liberal by not supporting handouts to 1%ers.
	Never mind, the 1%ers are not people making $100,000.
	No, not at all.
	It's funny to say, yeah, we gave less money to people Which is more liberal.
	That's the more liberal way to do it, is to be less generous with the payouts.
	And it's like, hmm, okay.
	Second of all, this reference is something that I, I don't know, that I was like bewildered by back two months ago when Biden and these Democrats were talking about what the new payment structure should be for this stimulus.
	Which is low lowering the threshold for stimulus payments which these payments aren't like they're not like to those who are deserving it's not supposed to be like oh you're poor so you get a payment because if that was the case we'd be giving these month by month Yeah.
	What it is, is it's supposed to be an injection of money into the economy.
	It's supposed to be like a stimulus.
	That's what it literally is.
	It's a stimulus so that small businesses can keep functioning and, you know, services can keep going, people can keep their jobs, etc.
	But people are treating it like it's a value judgment.
	Like, no, only the people who deserve the money, even, you know, the Democrats are treating it like this.
	Only the people who deserve the money should get this money one time.
	Never again, or whatever.
	But it's funny, because if you look at what the average nurse makes, they're making like $80,000 a year.
	Which, if you work or live in a densely populated area, that's like a living wage, essentially.
	You're not investing in the stock market on 80 grand.
	Like, if you have a house, you know, your mortgage is over $1,000 every month.
	If you have an apartment, your rent is over $1,000 every month.
	And it's just funny what an incredible self-own it is that the Democrats are insisting on phasing out, like, the stimulus payment for a registered nurse who has been working in the front lines, who is probably, like, More tired than any of we three will ever be in our lives.
	Yeah, and the only reason anyone's making over $80,000 is because they're short-staffed and they're working triple over times.
	Yeah.
	And that's the only reason why.
	I was having a discussion with somebody who's a nurse who's a friend of mine, and they were talking about just being so mad about making as much money as they do and working as much as they do, but they're still just like,
	didn't get this like no you shouldn't have to ever work 80 hours a week or 60 hours a week like no one should especially you who we kind of want to be on point but that's the standard for all these like all these these frontline people is nobody works regular hours they all work triple overtime they're all getting beaten to the ground and yeah they probably should just maybe get one check to where they get to say hey maybe I get to take a day off because I got this one stimulus check
	Yeah, or like maybe I get to like, uh, replace, you know, that piece of my car that's making noise.
	Yeah, yeah, totally.
	Maybe I can do that.
	That's what a lot of it is.
	I mean, the friends of mine that are, that have been working from home the whole time and have not felt disrupted at all, They spent their stimulus money on hiring contractors and stuff, which is helping the guy that has to lay the drywall or the gal or nonbinary pal.
	That stuff gets spread around.
	Give it to people that make $200,000.
	I'm going to try to get it from them.
	I'm going to try to make them buy something from me.
	I'm going to sell a pair of old shoes or a skateboard or something they want.
	And it is also somebody explained it and very simply and I understood it immediately so They they can also fix this on the back end when it comes to taxes Like they could give everybody $10,000 and at the end of the year when you prove how much money you made They're like, oh you didn't need that 10,000.
	We want it back and you we know you got enough to pay it back well, it's like the reason they're called the 1% is because there's a So few of them.
	It's like, why are you worrying about the 1% who's gonna get $1,400?
	You think, oh, they're gonna, they're millionaires, so they're inherently smarter than us, so they're gonna take that $1,400 and spin it into gold.
	Because this is like, this is like, you know, Elon Musk fan base mindset.
	To think that a millionaire is going to take $1,400 and turn it into the next Tesla.
	Yeah.
	Like they're not just going to spend that on like a new fork for their baby or whatever.
	They literally would not notice it.
	Because it just shows up in your account, you know?
	They literally would not notice it.
	Yeah, and it's, uh, and, and it's, it's, I don't, I don't, they're screwing over the people that, once again, they're just, they, they flub it up every single time and are screwing over the people that do need it and are dragging this on for so long that, I mean, they're just creating new enemies every day.
	They're so good at it.
	I want to just get into a few more responses before we move on.
	This exchange was just wonderful, just so enlightening.
	Scott said, "Congress needs to stop sticking pork and unrelated items in every bill.
	Raising the minimum wage should be a clear bill requiring only a few pages.
	Pass it soon, but pass it separately." And then, yeah, Ian St. John said, St. John replies, quote, writers on, quote, must pass bills are one of the toxins in the U.S. political system.
	Lobbyists are the other.
	And two party limits, the third.
	So once again, this is just the content doesn't matter.
	The content of what is actually being, you know, up for question, what is actually being voted on, doesn't matter.
	It's the principle of must pass, you know what?
	We should get rid, we should keep the filibuster and get rid of must pass legislation.
	It's like, so that nothing good will ever happen again.
	You know, all this is really just a byproduct of, like, you know, the crackdown on steroids in professional sports.
	If they would just let him juice and get those home runs, I don't care how you get the home run.
	I don't give a shit.
	Hit that ball far.
	It all seems to me, this is exactly like Republicans think about the world too, is that America was created as some great debate society and that the best way to do government is to have someone just go up and give debate club speeches about one topic.
	They all get 15 minutes and then they all vote at the end of it.
	This is great for a tv show or whatever fantasy world you're living in but the way this shit happens is if this is the only time that 50 votes will matter and we know we're only going to ever get 50 votes if we can get everybody on the fucking democrats to do it this is the this is how you do it there's no there is no like Going on TV and hanging $15 minimum wage above the ring like it's a fucking belt and having them go at it.
	We decide tonight what the minimum wage is going to be.
	I think we should let 40 years of Republicans adding tax cuts and military spending and other deregulation into must-pass legislation.
	We should let that happen and then once we get power we should not use that to our benefit whatsoever and put a stop to it just to show how good we are.
	Show how moral we are.
	You guys heard about the Senate parliamentarian thing?
	Yeah.
	This was, uh, this is somebody who's like this, the, the referee for the Senate or like the scorekeeper or the, the hall monitor for the Senate who says, Oh, I don't know about this one guys to whatever the legislation is.
	Right.
	And she, her name is, uh, Elizabeth McDonough.
	She said that, oh, adding this rider, adding this amendment to the bill about the $15 minimum, I don't think that's within the rulebook, folks.
	Her saying that is like the excuse that the more moderate or conservative Democrats are using to say, oh, we can't pass this.
	The person said that the Senate rules won't allow it.
	And once again, you only need 51 votes to overrule the Senate rules.
	They're made up.
	It's made up shit.
	Right?
	And so, somebody in the group was like, oh, I was mad about this too, until I saw on Bill Maher
	Bill Maher was mad that the Democrats didn't raise the minimum wage, which is, okay, kudos to him for once, I guess, who said that it's like, you know, an existential question for the Democratic Party as to whether they actually want to, like, fucking do anything for their constituents, you know?
	Do anything that they said they were going to do.
	But this user said, I was worried about it too until I saw on Bill Maher a New York Times reporter say that, oh no, if they had added this amendment, then it would have taken 60 votes to pass the legislation.
	Therefore, they couldn't add the amendment.
	And I was like, what the fuck is this person talking about?
	And I went to the episode and the New York Times reporter that person was referencing was Frank Bruni, who's a New York Times opinion columnist.
	He's written things like, I'm a straight white, or no, he's not straight, but I'm a white man.
	Hear me out.
	So that's their expert on Senate proceedings?
	Yeah!
	And I was looking at his previous Bill Maher appearances and it's stuff about liberal censorship.
	Stuff like how the liberals are silencing white male voices.
	The only people who are worse than, like, hot take Twitter people are people who are, like, hot take opinion column in the New York Times people.
	I'm making a career off of this, like, wild thing.
	Like you said, like, hey, I know I'm a white guy, but check this out.
	You can't make them feel bad.
	Twitter people will delete or go private and you know you got to them or something if they block you.
	But these people are just living in New York City, making it up to live there, just writing horse shit and loving life.
	Yeah, the best you can hope for is that you will eventually get a second op-ed about you talking shit to them.
	A counter-offense.
	Yeah.
	You wrote a scathing enough response that came in the mail that stuck with them.
	Yeah.
	I mean, people talk shit on Twitter, say it's the hell site, say it's bad or whatever.
	It's bad if you take it seriously.
	I will admit that.
	It's very good if you only use it to talk shit to the most evil people on the planet.
	Because you can do that.
	That's the good thing about Twitter.
	They get notifications for when you show them a picture of something.
	It's also a place where if you just say, ah, I fucked up there, like I haven't, I've never been punished for saying, ah, I fucked up on, I didn't think of that, you know, like just saying, uh, you know, oh, I didn't see it that way.
	It's, it's done.
	There you go.
	Problem over.
	Instead of me saying, no, you didn't understand me, right?
	This is the, uh, this is the Senate parliamentarians history, by the way.
	So, I was reading about this just to make sure like their word wasn't bond, you know, to reference Tony's Twitter handle here.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they're they're like an advisory role.
	Yeah.
	And so in 2001, then Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott fired parliamentarian Robert Dove after he issued an interpretation of the rules that would have made it difficult, if not impossible, to pass President George W. Bush's one point three five trillion dollar to pass President George W. Bush's one point three five trillion dollar tax cut.
	It's crazy how he got it done.
	Wow.
	That's a real, like, you know, get it done attitude, I think.
	Yeah, I remember that one time there was a piece of letter that was released from George W. Bush and he signed all his letters at the time when he was campaigning, yours in victory.
	And I was like, that is such a cold move.
	Like, I just love that energy.
	That is just somebody that is like... It's just incredible because they're so confident and so sure and so good at it and they just have no reason to feel or be that way.
	Nobody likes them.
	They'll openly admit that no one likes them and their family hates them.
	Or that the general public doesn't like them and they're doing their biblical thing or however they see shit.
	And they just float through life getting it done.
	This is probably a larger conversation that we probably don't have time for.
	I've been thinking about the culture war.
	I've been thinking about politics as consumption and politics as rhetoric.
	And I do agree that like, you know, posting, not politics.
	Doing a podcast, not really politics.
	However, you see success on the right wing of just like Rush Limbaugh, for instance.
	You know, he just died.
	Rest in shit.
	But he was a success.
	Definitively a success.
	He helped shape discourse for his side.
	He helped push policy, push rhetoric.
	And I was trying to square that with the idea that what we do with this show is not politics.
	What we do online is not politics.
	And it's simply because it's not the same fight.
	Rush Limbaugh fighting for the right wing, the conservative culture war, the economic culture war, does not have the uphill battle that the left has.
	All the people that are amenable to a cause like Rush Limbaugh's, like George W. Bush's, like you're saying, they're already in power.
	They just have to be persuaded to go nuclear with their power.
	They just have to be persuaded.
	It's like cops, right?
	It's like cops getting a training seminar that says, yeah, sure, you have the right to kill people.
	You also should not feel bad about that.
	You also should go to work every day with a warrior mentality where you going home is the most important thing, period.
	Those people already had the power to do that.
	They're just being, like, shaped, you know, rhetorically being shaped, like, outlook-wise Further from their already pre-existing, you know, power structure.
	And that's why it's so frustrating to see, like, yeah, Republicans can, the right wing can just lean into this shit and Democrats can be wishy-washy about this shit because the underlying power structure always is going to benefit the right.
	Yeah, and all they're doing is maintaining what's already happening, maintaining the status quo.
	They're pushing it farther along in their own direction because the wheels are already, like, the ratchet is already positioned to that direction, you know?
	And it is easy to, like, you know, leave the job at the job and not bring it home when it, in fact, does not affect your home because you're rich.
	Yeah, totally.
	Do you want to hear about Elizabeth McDonough, our current parliamentarian's previous rulings?
	Of course!
	We're gonna get real stoked right now, right?
	This is, again, the parliamentarian who said that adding a $15 minimum wage increase, something that is about $6 less than what the minimum wage would be if it were kept to inflation from, you know, when it was enacted originally.
	Preach.
	Elizabeth McDonough has issued other controversial rulings on what can be passed under special budgetary rules.
	She ruled in 2017 that Republicans could add provisions to the Tax Cut and Jobs Act to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska to oil drilling.
	Fuck.
	Jesus.
	Fuck!
	No!
	And, so the second one is, and to eliminate the tax penalty associated with the Affordable Care Act's mandate on individuals to purchase health insurance.
	- Fuck you. - So while I don't agree with that tax penalty to, you know, when you can't purchase health insurance or whatever, that's extremely fucked up legislation.
	It was obviously to the benefit of Republicans to eliminate that tax penalty.
	And then obviously, you know, to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska to oil drilling, beneficial to just like, you know, the most evil people in the world.
	It's amazing that we have a controversial ruling here on one hand that denies the poorest people in the country more money, and then a controversial ruling on this side that awards the most wealthy people in the world more money.
	It's crazy how both of those are just, wow, she's just a controversial figure, you know?
	That's all it is.
	She's a maverick in her own right.
	She's doing controversies on both sides, you know?
	In her defense, nobody that would be drilling, like even working on the drilling sites, would be making minimum wage, so they're not relevant at all.
	Yeah, she's just thinking like, I can't make that decision for all of these people that own companies, but that piece of ice out there, I don't give a shit about it.
	Let's move on here to just an astounding piece of News, I guess?
	A soundbite that is just incredible.
	So the ex-CIA director, John Brennan, went on, uh, what was it here?
	MSNBC?
	What is Nicole Wallace?
	She's on MSNBC, I think.
	Yeah, sounds right.
	She is John, I believe she's John McCain's former Campaign consultant?
	The person who ran his presidential campaign, who ended up not being able to vote for him because of Sarah Palin?
	I think that's who.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She was the one that they made that movie about on HBO.
	She's a host on MSNBC.
	Okay, so yeah.
	Ex-CIA director John Brennan says he's, quote, increasingly embarrassed to be a white male.
	Oh man, that's the first thing that came up, huh?
	You're the head of the CIA.
	There's nothing else you did that maybe you're a little red-faced about?
	I mean, I think we can all relate there a little bit, right?
	Yeah, I mean, I say this at parties, sure, to get people to like me.
	I'll say it like, you know, when Mumford & Sons has like a number one single or something like that, I guess.
	I don't, I mean, I, I, that part of me is, that's who I am and how I move through the world, but I, if, what other people do with it, I don't know how much it affects, you know, I don't feel, I mean, I, but at the same time, I know exactly what it means, to be honest.
	Like, I also am like, people are always surprised when they talk to me, they're like, you look like such a douchebag, but like, you're listening to me and you aren't aggressive and like, you know how, you know about things besides like IPAs and shit, you know, like.
	Listen, every culture, I, I'm a firm believer, every culture has its own cringe.
	There's a nuanced discussion about cringe.
	I don't think the CIA director is operating in good faith here, necessarily.
	I think it's magnificent that the CIA director, the ex-CIA director, is doing, like, identity politics, is doing, like, black nationalism here.
	It's very interesting.
	Very interesting to me that he's saying, you know, oh yeah, wow, uh, it's just, it's, it's, I, if I could give up my whiteness, I would, you know, as he oversaw like black ops, you know, there were like collaring Muslim people and throwing them in black sites and, uh, torturing them with pork diets rectally fed to them.
	It's, it said like, He's not saying it while he throws away like a pair of white Nike Forces that he got for $40 from Dick's Sporting Goods.
	If he said that with the addendum like, I'm embarrassed to be white and the importance of black liberation, I would actually like move into the woods and arm myself because something crazy is coming.
	To me this just rings of like, hey, fellow whites, shouldn't we not join a union because white voices are amplified in a union?
	Yeah.
	And also I think this doesn't work very well against the people that are proud to be white men.
	I think that's what he's referencing is that A bunch of crazy white men tried to storm Congress, and it sucks that they look like him.
	When he looks at the TV, it looks like him and his boys at a poker game.
	That's what you get, man.
	You've been seeing white people as heroes for too long, and now it's time for white people to be seen as the villain, which means we're going to be rounding up both MAGA bros and brochialists alike and throwing them into entertainment centers.
	Yeah, it's time.
	I heard what happened is this guy actually just tuned into the NBA after like 40 years.
	And he's like, whoa, things have changed.
	It is embarrassing for white dudes out there.
	I mean, a bounce pass won't cut it these days.
	Listen, so I just saw this Facebook video about a rapper named Tom McDonald.
	That would be tight.
	That would be so tight.
	Pretty cringed, bro.
	You know, during my investigations, we were looking into white militants, and I found this musical artist that scared me.
	Just scared me.
	I would say probably the most dangerous threat to America today is the rapper Tom McDonald.
	You can clearly see on the cover of his single, White Boy, what's the name of the song?
	Yeah, I think it's White Boy.
	White Boy!
	You can clearly see on the cover of this album that this man is 6'7", facial tattoos, very threatening.
	Very intimidating man.
	He can catch a basketball with one hand.
	This is like, no, this is poison to me.
	This is like...
	This is like sickening to see the ex-CIA director John Brennan doing verbal reparations on MSNBC.
	It's bad.
	I have this conspiracy theory that all the millennial-targeted Instagram posts and memes and jokes that are about Oh, it's so cool I get to go to bed tonight only to wake up tomorrow and have to face another day.
	Isn't that great?
	Like, all of this, like, hey, isn't it so cool to be depressed and suicidal?
	Like, all of these posts that are just targeting, like, how miserable it is to be an adult in this world.
	To exist.
	And how, just, God, wouldn't it be great to just kill yourself, like?
	I have a conspiracy theory that that's just CIA.
	That's all CIA-funded.
	Oh, that absolutely is, yeah.
	No, being bummed is cool.
	Hey, white males, shouldn't we, like, listen to Oprah more?
	You know?
	Well, there is actually, there's a really good article you should look up called The Buzzfeedification of Mental Health.
	And like the guy from Buzzfeed wrote his thesis back in the late 90s about how capitalism would break everybody apart into like unique mental habits and then market back to them like ADHD jokes and stuff.
	Yeah.
	Like he called it, he fucking researched it and then was like, wait, I'm going to actually do that.
	If no one else is going to do that, I'm going to do that.
	Yeah.
	Um, but this is, this is also, um, you know, this, I think the troubling part is that this is how they make us shut up, you know, is like John Brennan is doing diversity politics in the right way.
	He, he's like, I believe Hamilton provides, you know, strong role models for kids or whatever.
	And, and this, this.
	Has been the best play for them because I was not able to criticize the election at all without people screaming to me about like black women and LGBTQ people like crazy I was not to say anything I said about Joe Biden people were just like totally pissed at me like I was a fucking racist misogynist.
	Yeah okay cool wow way to criticize the the first black president that we've had in four years too.
	Joe Biden is queer-coded, and if you don't accept that, then, uh, I don't know.
	It's working!
	It's working!
	Low-key sus.
	I mean, I was skeptical of it at first, but the way I've seen people adopt all of that stuff and just completely weaponize it, it does feel like we're never gonna be out of this situation.
	It just feels like running in circles, the way that they can just take all the radical language that you just taught them, or that they cribbed off your fucking Tumblr account, and just beat you over the head with it.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Language is only language.
	And yes, there is like an argument for using, you know, inclusive language and being able to talk to people and not like immediately turn them off or whatever.
	But the bottom line is language is still language.
	And it doesn't like automatically manifest like material change for people.
	And you can try to say that like, I don't want to call anybody out.
	Somebody I know very closely, their employer is instructing them to tell customers who are interested in a
	Black Studies Reading Group that their employer is hosting, if the person interested in the Black Studies Reading Group is white, that employee has to tell that person that they're not allowed at the Black Studies Reading Group because it's a space, it's a quote, safe space for black people.
	And it's like there should absolute I'm not saying that like a black run space has to cater to everybody or should like has to be inclusive but this is like not a radical space this is a for-profit business that is connected to this thing that is telling their employees they have to engage with
	what that same business is calling a dangerous presence for the reading group that they're not allowed at the reading group.
	And it's like, if this person, because of their non-blackness, would be a dangerous presence, how are you telling your employees they have to confront this person?
	That's not the job of your worker.
	That's not a job for capitalists.
	Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
	Whoa, that is a quagmire.
	That is off.
	That is not... Oh, yeah.
	I don't trust any type of corporate gesture towards anything like that.
	It's full of shit.
	It's absolutely full of shit.
	Like, you can't trust it.
	And you know the person who made that rule is not black.
	No, no.
	They were just like, no, I just... I read about it and, you know, yes, absolutely.
	I am part of the exclusively black groups within that group discussion.
	It is just other black people.
	And that belongs there, but it does not belong.
	I don't expect that to happen in my workplace.
	That's only going to make people mad at me.
	That's all that's going to happen.
	It's just going to piss off my already racist coworker.
	It doesn't seem to foster solidarity.
	No, not at all.
	Not only that, but it's not a fucking employer's job to, quote, foster solidarity.
	I never believe an employer would want to do that, first of all.
	That's an antithesis to their benefit.
	That's not going to benefit them whatsoever.
	Yeah.
	But also, that's not an employee...
	You're there to, like, do your job and make money.
	You're not there to, quote, like, do radical self-exploration or whatever.
	Decolonize your heart.
	Yeah.
	But I'm sure this company does have, like, a nice, big percentage of black employees.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	There's like a local restaurant here that I love.
	They do some cool stuff, but people try to do this virtual thing like that, you know?
	And they had these giant busts of Tupac, Biggie, and Nipsey Hussle.
	Huge, giant busts.
	I'm like, these are... That must result in actual material change for the community, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, first of all, I mean, the artist who did it was not black.
	And then, um, and then I was like, oh, these are really cool.
	Did you hire some black people yet?
	And the answer was no.
	The answer was no.
	We can't, we haven't got around to that.
	The answer was like, well, we only have like 10 employees.
	And like, I'm like, okay, well, I mean, thank you, but Yeah.
	Black people are over 10% of the country.
	One black person would be totally proportional.
	I would hire a black person but I would have to pay them more because they deserve more and I just don't have room in the budget right now.
	Sounds like the minimum wage argument there.
	Yeah.
	Alexander, I wanted to say that I did have, uh, I have friends that do the work from home thing and are very high up in some big companies.
	And, uh, they also did the dumb ass thing of after the George Floyd protests, uh, they made the, the black employees talk about their experience, like live on Zoom.
	If one guy had a real sour attitude about it, would just like, no, I don't know.
	I just don't, it's not going to change, man.
	It's just like, you get away.
	He had a really bad attitude.
	And then everybody, he's in trouble.
	Like he kind of got in trouble because he was put on the spot and then was just like, I don't want to speak my heart.
	I don't want to do this.
	I don't know why I'm being asked.
	That seems kind of funny.
	He could have like, he could have done a rap or something about it.
	He could have done like a death... He doesn't have to rhyme.
	It could be like a death jam thing, you know?
	And it sucks because you know, you know, you know, like when they said that they're like, Hey, can you like talk about your experience?
	Like a time that, you know, like you were followed in a store or when you were arrested or like, you know, when you did a police brutality to you or, or when you scared a white woman.
	It's like, well, I mean, why, why did you think those things happened to me, man?
	Like maybe I don't have the best story like that.
	I mean, I do, but that's not the point.
	Do you not think that anybody else in this company are those people that would have done that shit to me?
	What do you think is going to be the best case scenario at the end of this?
	It would have been sick if they would have just all went on there, said their position, how long they've been in the company, and how much money they're making.
	Yeah, that would have been great.
	The last thing that John Brennan said in this appearance, he says, there are so few Republicans in Congress who value truth, honesty, and integrity.
	And so, they'll continue to gaslight the country the way that Donald Trump did.
	So, once again, gaslight.
	Using the buzz feedification of mental health.
	Interpersonal relationships.
	God, I wish... This guy also defended the use of torture at one point in his life.
	I think I remember him doing that.
	Well, yeah, the man knows psychology.
	And he's just like, guys, you're living fucked up.
	You're not doing the proper steps.
	You need to read your books.
	You need to get up on it.
	You need to center marginalized voices.
	What's the play here though?
	The play here is that the left, you know, these terms are just going to be used against the left.
	The left is gaslighting you into thinking that, you know, bi-femme heroes like Kirsten Sinema, you know, are somehow less than because they vote exactly the same as their male counterparts in Joe Manchin.
	Yeah, I saw the critique of the thumbs down getting called misogyny.
	That happened pretty quickly.
	Oh, I have that in my notes.
	I guess I didn't read it.
	Cinema's Office responded to a question about the gesture by making the absurd claim that the inquiry is sexist.
	Commentary about a female senator's body language, clothing, or physical demeanor does not belong in a serious media outlet, Hannah Hurley, a spokesperson for Cinema, told Huffington Post.
	Nobody cared how you looked, we cared what you did.
	When I was voting to inter-migrate children across the border and I put a little heart over my yes or whatever, that's none of your business.
	It's none of your business to critique which jelly pen I used to send people to FBI black sites.
	You didn't have to pop lock after you went ahead and, like, upped the budget for ice.
	No need for that.
	I don't know why you brought the Jabbawockeez on when you decided to open drilling along the Pacific coast.
	They're all panamiming drilling.
	They construct a drill by stacking on top of each other.
	Doing their ISOs.
	It's actually pretty anti-black to do that.
	Because you don't know what race they are.
	You can't see under the masks.
	I mean, I have an idea.
	Aren't they like Asian?
	Yeah.
	Okay uh yeah so let me just get into some uh responses to John Brennan's uh John Brennan reflecting on his own whiteness.
	Just again, just poison.
	Just like, it makes me sick.
	Dude, he listened to NOFX that morning and just was so into it.
	He just had to channel that.
	Yep.
	That's not me, man.
	That's my dad.
	My dad was a white man.
	I step into this world an open global citizen, brother.
	Vince 273 in the Fox News comments section.
	We got some classic Fox News responses here.
	Vince says, well, good for him.
	I mean, if he feels more comfortable hating himself, then well done, sir.
	As for myself, I am perfectly content to be a white male.
	I am comfortable with my white, quote, privilege.
	I was privileged to get up in the morning and get myself to school every day, parentheses.
	Two working parents, you see.
	After school, I was privileged to come home, do my chores before homework that had to be done before I was allowed to go out and play.
	After dinner, where my sisters and I helped to clean up the dishes in the kitchen.
	After I came in from playing outside, after that I was privileged to have a mandatory one hour of reading before any TV or anything else.
	After my early school years, I had the great privilege to add a part-time job to my list of other after-school activities.
	My father said everyone has to earn their way in the world on their own two feet.
	His famous line was, there is no such thing as a free meal.
	Somewhere, someone gets the bill.
	And so it went on until I graduated and went into the workforce where I was privileged to work myself into a position where I could start my own company, had the privilege to hire people, pay taxes, lots of taxes, and support my family with 12-hour days and long weekends at work as necessary.
	What do you say, Brett?
	No, I was just, I was wondering if you could break the programming on this, if you were like, well, black kids had to do two hours of reading just to get credit for one hour.
	That's what the privilege is.
	You said both your parents had jobs?
	Yes, let me finish this.
	Yes, I was privileged enough not to have accepted any handouts.
	Not that I was ever offered any.
	And achieve my modest success.
	Your modest success?
	I thought you were just bragging about how much taxes you paid.
	My modest success by hard work and determination.
	So I guess I was a white man with a lot of privilege, but I managed to overcome it.
	Dot dot dot dot.
	No, I mean, that sounds like easy, easy as hell.
	You made it sound so simple.
	Like nothing about that sounded excruciating.
	Maybe the hours, but that's what like everybody that isn't a podcaster is doing.
	And also that's what like every CEO says they do.
	They say they do 12 hours of work.
	This guy said he was a business owner.
	So he was like answering emails for 12 hours or whatever.
	He was going over to Bill's house for lunch and spending two hours there.
	It was on the company card so it was cool.
	Let me tell you, Tony and I own a business and it's the easiest work I've ever done in my life.
	And you don't have to pay for anything.
	You don't have to pay taxes on anything.
	We write off everything we fucking do.
	Dude, so I'll level with the listener here.
	I work 50 hours a week on average.
	I make good money because I get a union wage.
	I paid, I had to pay $400 in taxes last year.
	This year, Tony and I started filing the companies.
	We formed the LLC partnership or whatever for Minion Death Cult.
	And we started paying taxes on what we make on Patreon.
	Individually, I got $900 back from the government from claiming MDC shit.
	So I went from paying $400 in taxes on my personal taxes to making more money, doing less work.
	I mean, I don't make more money than I make personally, but making an additional set of money with Minion Death Cult, writing all that shit off, getting it transferred, getting that, quote, tax burden transferred to my personal taxes where I got $1,000 back from the government.
	Yeah.
	Which is exactly why I'm gonna go ahead and, like, LLC the bread thing and then put my kid on the payroll.
	You can do that.
	Yeah, you can actually do that.
	That's so fucked.
	It's all so fucked, bros.
	You can claim up to, like, $12,000.
	You can claim, like, $1,000 a month for kid labor if it's your own kid.
	If it's your own kid, yeah.
	And you make up some fake invoices.
	They don't gotta see the money, but there's gonna be invoices.
	I'm just gonna send videos of her packing stickers.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	What were you saying?
	I said I'm just gonna send videos of the IRS of her packing stickers.
	I thought you said paying her in stickers.
	That's what I would pay my kid.
	Here's some troll stickers.
	Thanks for boxing up the order.
	Robert Kiyosaki basically says the same thing in the first chapter of the book.
	Get an LLC and write everything off.
	Buy a property.
	Call yourself a real estate investor.
	Even if you only own one place, you get to write off all of your utilities as home business expenses now.
	Now all of a sudden you don't pay taxes anymore.
	Tony and I like like we make it like a fucking surprise shockingly decent amount of money on patreon from this show which thank you to everybody who supports us on patreon um and we were like oh shit we're gonna have to pay taxes on on this stuff so I was telling Tony I was like you know brace yourself like yeah one or two months of like patreon income is gonna have to just go straight to the IRS because like you know we're making money now so we're gonna have to pay taxes and I went into fucking h&r block
	And I was like, all right, this is what we got and he was like, okay, cool We're going to make it so you pay zero taxes and get a refund.
	I was like, oh, that's how it works Broke like I do every year they're like, oh bro, that's gonna be $68 Like you're gonna at least lose that you're gonna get 30 back from the state.
	I don't know when that's gonna get there.
	I Yeah.
	So it costs money to file an LLC, but if you can scrape together that money, it's probably worth it.
	Yeah, run a business that loses money.
	That's the best thing you can do in America is run a losing business.
	Don't be a business man.
	Be a business man.
	I love the end of this comment, so I guess I was a white man with a lot of privilege, but I managed to overcome it.
	I love that comment because it's totally confused, like it doesn't understand what The phrase white privilege actually means it's being like filtered through you know three years of grievance since the phrase white privilege became popularized to where quote white privilege is quote a bad thing like that's all you know about what white privilege means so you're like I still managed to succeed despite my white privilege.
	No, he's doing, he's doing like a tuxedo mask from Sailor Moon.
	Where like he just floats into the room and just explains a bunch of stuff and is like, you shouldn't feel bad and then just leaves.
	It's like, I don't, he didn't make the point that I think he was.
	Um, I don't think that sounded like regular American light.
	Like that sounds like what most people have to deal with.
	Well, it sounds like the ideal, like, nuclear fam- not the ideal nuclear family, but like the, you know, 70s, the post-cultural revolu- post, uh, you know, sexual revolution, um, sounds like the ideal, quote, like, boomer or Gen X or, like, upbringing.
	Like, both your parents worked, they were able to support you while you went to school or whatever, and that doesn't exist anymore.
	That does not exist anymore and it never existed for certain communities.
	I think what he means by overcoming is he's able to be humble still.
	Like, this could have been a post, but instead it was a comment.
	Yeah.
	They think that white privilege just means that there's never been broke white people.
	They think that white privilege means that we can go to the bank and be like, hey, let me hold $1,000.
	And they're like, yes, sir, Mr. White Man, sir.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man, you think this guy just didn't get his coupon book in the mail this year?
	He didn't get it.
	He needs to go to the meetings.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't think, I mean, I don't know how useful the term white privilege is because class is like such a big part of your economic output.
	You know, there are intrinsically benefits to being white, like, you know, not, you know, being less likely to be shot by the cops or being more likely
	to know the person who's employing you or to have you know uh nepotism granted on you or your name sounds better on a job application that sort of thing like there are intrinsic like benefits to whiteness there is a white privilege but like
	When it redounds to just, every single person thinks that just white privilege means, like, after three years of trying to explain what white privilege means to these people, it is, like, not working.
	It is, like, it, I mean... We gotta cut bait.
	It is, it's not, it's not sufficient to explain politics to a lot of people, I think.
	And it's like, it's one of these, like, Buzzwords, it's one of these like things where, yeah, HR is now doing white privilege discourse.
	It's one of these things where, like, Coca-Cola is telling their employees to, you know, check their whiteness or whatever, as they probably make, you know, less than $15 an hour.
	I don't know how, I don't... Anyway, Diver21 replies and says, rock on.
	Hell yeah!
	So, yeah, there's that.
	Skeebum1946 says, Somebody posted a great response to whiteness.
	Growing up, I lived through true systemic racism.
	Trust me when I tell you, it is real.
	The problem is, it is not coming from white people.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no, no.
	Stop!
	So you totally know what systemic means.
	You gotta grasp on this.
	Go ahead.
	American black culture was born out of rebellion and resistance towards an unfair system at that time.
	Yet, it has failed to change with the changes in society.
	It's not a culture that can mix with other cultures because it is, by design, rebellious and resistant.
	Everything from language to appearance is almost the direct opposite of quote white culture for lack of a better term.
	Want me to pause here?
	I think re-education centers, that kind of stuff scares me at first, but now it's like if we force this motherfucker into a camp to realign his understanding of this, you know, in a non-antagonistic way, maybe he can come back on the other side.
	But this, I don't know who is teaching this type of thing.
	The internet.
	Facebook is teaching this thing.
	Yeah.
	The crash course is gonna be like, no, no, see, look, see, that's a black person and they're using a spoon for soup just like you.
	Just like you, see?
	It's not that crazy.
	They didn't use a fork just to spite white culture.
	He's being rebellious!
	He's doing it because it's not white.
	It makes me mad.
	No, he didn't steal that car.
	They also have right, you know, they also have left-hand drive cars.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	I love the idea that everything from language to appearance is almost the direct opposite of white.
	You ever notice how a different culture is just like slapping you in the face for being different?
	They're just like, they're just pretending to be different than you in order to spite you.
	I mean actually yeah.
	I mean, to me, this is on Fox News, right?
	Yeah.
	What's funny is the Fox News comments section lately has been inundated by liberals who are trying to own conservatives by making fun of people in trailer parks and stuff like that.
	I just think that if you look at why people rebel, that might explain why black culture is a little bit upset with whiteness.
	Maybe they have some things to talk about or some grievances to express.
	Sure, but I wouldn't say that, like, black, like, oh yeah, you know, jazz?
	Like, jazz was just created, uh, because they were mad at Mozart, or whatever.
	No, they were mad at square dancing.
	They were trying to take down our national tradition of square dancing.
	No, yeah, jazz was created when they accidentally set up a turntable wrong and played the record backwards.
	And they're like, we gotta replicate that.
	Asking white people to accept or adapt to the American black culture is not practical, or even possible.
	That's all we do!
	Our entire culture revolves around using black people as, like, the standard bearers of culture.
	Like, it's the Paul Mooney thing.
	Everybody wants to be black, but nobody wants to be black.
	It's been that ever since the popular culture has existed.
	Ever since fucking Elvis, it's been set in motion.
	That's what it is.
	For me, at least.
	I mean I didn't really notice until the Jabbawockeez, but I know exactly what you're talking about.
	This isn't hard to understand.
	In American black culture, white people are the enemy from the start.
	Amen.
	We know who you are.
	I mean, you've now told on yourself because there's plenty of people that move in those spaces that don't feel like the enemy intrinsically.
	But I mean, no, seriously, if you think about it, from the beginning of black American history, the enemy has been white people.
	It's literally true, but it's just like, Damn, dawg, like you're missing a lot of fine points here that are not so fine.
	I don't know.
	I think maybe if you take your own bias out of the equation, you'll see that black people were just being slaves in order to act in opposition to the free white men.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Which is crazy.
	It's just the opposite, yeah.
	Oh wait, you guys are getting paid?
	Nah, we don't want that.
	Yeah, nah.
	No thanks.
	No thank you.
	That's white shit.
	We're not allowed to get into clubs so we created better clubs with better music just to make y'all look bad.
	We refuse to just assimilate.
	Naturally, a culture that is inherently rebellious is not sustainable even for its own people.
	Once the rest of society distances itself from the culture, the same rebellious qualities will turn inward.
	Hey, do you guys remember when we had that Civil War?
	What was the people that were fighting to preserve slavery?
	What did they call themselves?
	Like, didn't they have like a slang term for what their army was?
	It was the Fallen Liners, right?
	The Fallen Liners?
	The Fallen Followers?
	It was the Status Quoers.
	The Status Quoers, yeah.
	That's totally what I was thinking the whole time.
	The only thing I know of as, like, quote, white culture would be, like, rebel culture.
	Would be, like, Southern Heritage, like, rebel, you know, quote, unquote, culture.
	That is the only thing I could think of.
	You're supposed to rebel against pro-blackness.
	You're not supposed to rebel against anti-blackness.
	You're right, that's what they would do.
	So I'm supposed to do the opposite.
	Finally, these comments are just going from bad to worse.
	I hate to subject the listener to this, but this was just a good cross-section of what I feel the openly far-right is admitting in public.
	What we've been covering for a while on this show and just a good look at it.
	Mountain says, I am growing tired of the constant hatred by the 13% minority towards Europeans and Asians.
	So, trying to form a World War II alliance here, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Get in here, Asians.
	Get in here.
	It's you too.
	They're mean to you.
	They hate you too.
	They're rebelling against you.
	Yeah.
	Hey, what's another minority we could choose from?
	Like a model one, for instance, you know?
	And the 13% obviously from that meme, the 13 slash 52 meme, the FBI statistics meme, not really hiding their white nationalism here.
	Yeah, I mean, it is like, it's one of those things where, I mean, I've been a part of this for the last 10 years when I joined Twitter, when we started street fighting everything, where the conversations back then in 2011 Conversations about white privilege, conversations about gaslighting, all that kind of stuff was really opening people's minds and kind of changing the way that people interact with each other.
	And now that it's hit this point, it's just like, put the genie back in the bottle.
	Can we please not have this discussion?
	It's not working.
	They know the words, they don't know what any of it means.
	Yeah.
	Like, I feel like I had a positive response to discussions about white privilege and male privilege because I came from a background that was already feminist.
	I was raised by a dad who was feminist and a mother who was, you know, great, and I was amenable... Not as good as the feminist dad, though, but...
	She, I mean, it goes without saying.
	I can't wait to read your book, Feminist Dad and Great Mom.
	Well, it's redundant.
	Great mom, feminist dad.
	It would have been, I don't know, redundant to say feminist mom.
	Yeah, sure.
	I was raised from, like, already, like, an amenable position to those sorts of things.
	And I was raised to, like, listen to other people.
	And so I did have to reckon with my own, like, you know, male privilege and white privilege or whatever.
	But I was in a place culturally...
	To be open to those things.
	I don't know what the correct branding of these ideas are, but I did benefit from those, but I feel like that's more of a cultural thing.
	And they're just absolutely failing.
	It's just not coming across based upon these comments.
	So yeah, I'm growing tired of the constant hatred by the 13% minority towards Europeans and Asians.
	We were born into our races and cultures, and we are proud of them.
	So this is a common thing that people were saying in this comment section.
	Like, hey, I was just born the way I was.
	I didn't choose to be born white.
	I had no control over being born white, and I'm proud of it.
	And it's like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's... I don't know... You're proud of doing nothing.
	Those are two different arguments.
	Like, you can say, like, I didn't have any control over being white and I'm trying to make the best of it.
	I'm trying to do right by everybody.
	Or you can say, like, I'm white and I did everything that, like, white people did in the past because I'm white, or whatever.
	Which I don't know if you want to take responsibility for, but...
	We were born into our races and cultures and we are proud of it.
	We do not need a quote fake history month or fake holidays like Kwanzaa to make us feel proud.
	Unlike the real holidays, like, you know, Christmas and Easter, all the real ones.
	July 4th, Thanksgiving, 4th of July, Presence Day, Memorial Day.
	These kind of things, they came with the guidebook of planet Earth.
	It was just like, you know, Jesus was born, he died for you on the cross.
	Even if humans had never existed to observe the world around them, Christmas still would have existed.
	Yeah, we eventually would have got there.
	We do not need half-white personal histories to give us pride.
	I don't know what that means.
	The Democrat and their minions in the media are creating a false narrative that is inflaming racial hatred.
	Love this argument.
	I love this fucking argument that the media made me be racist.
	Obama made me be... I was never racist until we had a black president.
	Yeah yeah he started it.
	It's so weird because these people think like they think that black people we are reaching for something to be mad about.
	That we're like fabricating something you're mad about instead of like showing you videos of our murders all the time.
	Showing you like like like hard evidence of the you know disproportionate amount of like you know income.
	Um you know I was just I was recently like um In the 70s, the difference between wealth across the country was about, I think it was something like $6,000 a year.
	Now it's $30,000 a year between the average black family and the average white family.
	The average non-black family, I should say.
	Well, progress takes time, Tony.
	I don't know why you want instant results.
	It is because we're running away from money because we know you guys like money and we don't want to do it.
	It's like we're not making this shit up and I don't know and like how do you how do you see Kwanzaa in February and not see anything else?
	Yeah and it's frustrating for me too because there's just there are uh There are people that are racist and private, owners of companies, family members, whatever it may be, and then they like insist that like racism isn't a thing or that black people have nothing to complain about and it's like you complain about the black person at work all the time and that affects the way you interact with them.
	And you're like, you're this, they're like, they know, like, just because you didn't do it, like, just because you didn't do it on paper, they're not, you know, they know what you, they know that you don't, who you are, you know, I don't know.
	It's just like, it's, it's, these people are the ones perpetuating all of this.
	And then at the same time are insisting that it doesn't exist.
	And it's like, well, I don't, I don't know what we can do then to get you to see this.
	Well Mountain has an idea of what we can do.
	They say remember the 13% is a minority that if it fosters hatred towards the 87% majority could end up in a bad situation.
	What?
	Oh, okay.
	I might want to listen because I don't want to end up in a bad situation.
	What the fuck, man?
	We can't go listening to this Black Lives Matter.
	It's going to ruin everything we have.
	If Black Lives Matter, they'll start being the majority.
	Yeah, sure.
	There's a $30,000 wealth discrepancy, but what if that were a $35,000 wealth discrepancy, Tony?
	It could be worse.
	That is true.
	That is true.
	They could have had more double life sentences, you know?
	That is a charitable example of what this person is talking about.
	What they're talking about is if black people keep running their mouths, they're going to kill them.
	Yes.
	That is what this means.
	Hey, we're the majority and we might flex on you.
	And it's funny because the conservative mantra for the last I would say four years has been, oh, democracy is the tyranny of the mob.
	It's the tyranny of the majority because, hey, we've won presidential elections on a minority amount of votes.
	So we're going to say that democracy is bad now.
	Because we realize that, at least culturally and politically, we are the minority.
	But when it comes to race and identity, we're still the majority.
	So let's try to, like, poke that with a stick.
	Let's try to activate that part of the country and then say that democracy, once again, is good because we can, you know, execute the filthy minority.
	I mean, yeah, that's the problem.
	If there's so little black people, they must all be bad if they keep on getting killed in the street.
	If it always tends to be them, something must be wrong here.
	It's so fucking crazy.
	Some of these people are extremely old because they're commenting on Fox News.
	This has been going on their entire life.
	Before you look into the history, there was not a...
	Now it is more public and people get it on the TV, but I mean people have been fighting against this shit for a very long time.
	The critiques against the police and the evidence of police corruption has been ongoing for decades.
	It's just whether you or not you want to believe it at this point.
	And these are the people that are holdouts.
	I feel like if your main problem with society is, like, BLM or whatever, you're probably doing okay.
	You're probably, like, not worrying about your next meal or your next month's rent or whatever.
	And you can be safely written off from any, like, political project whatsoever.
	And if you are worried about your next meal, you can gladly come to the next Black Power Coalition Inland Empire food drive and pick up some food.
	I don't care what color you are.
	Absolutely.
	Well, thank you so much, Brett, for doing the show.
	You should, and if you're not already, I don't know what you're doing, listen to Street Fight Radio and subscribe to their Patreon at patreon.com slash streetfightradio.
	Thanks again, Brett.
	Yeah, we don't need your money or anything, but definitely listen to the podcast.
	Get an idea of what we do.
	I'm about to do the call-in show in about a half hour.
	That's three hours of us taking calls from working people and activists and organizers.
	That's the thing that has kept me sane throughout this whole thing is talking to regular folks.
	I'm so disconnected from work life and the daily grind.
	I love the call-in shows.
	You guys do a call-in show every week.
	You guys do a more structured show every week as well.
	You guys are probably the most hard-working podcast I know out there, as far as podcasting is hard work.
	You guys are at the top of that.
	Trying to scale it back.
	And what I'll say is, you might not need their money, but they do need your bonus content.
	That's true.
	Yeah, that's right.
	You got anything to plug here, Tony?
	Nah, thanks for everyone that's been buying bread.
	Remind me again if you bought bread so I can like, you know, send you like a sock or something in the order.
	But yeah, thanks for that.
	It's been really fun.
	I'll vouch for the bread.
	The bread is amazing.
	When we did the tour, he was like, hey, I got this fucking paper bag full of bread.
	You can go tear a hunk off of it.
	And I'm like sitting on the counts, just getting up every like three minutes, grabbing a hunk of bread, sitting down, eating it, and then going back to that fucking brown bag full of bread.
	And you sent one to me also early in quarantine that was amazing.
	It traveled so well and the crumb was excellent.
	All of it was very high quality.
	I do prefer a nicer bread.
	The handmade option and you do a wonderful job.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate that.
	So go to Tony's Instagram, I guess, to get that bread, right?
	Yeah.
	Sickles Harvest.
	Go to Sickles Harvest or anything.
	I link this shit all the time.
	You can find it.
	It's not hard.
	You're on the internet, people.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Support this show at patreon.com slash MinionDevCult, where you will get a bonus episode every week, as well as access to the ButtFest 2000 miniseries, guest starring Brett Payne and Anthony Boswell.
	And you'll be supporting us, so we appreciate that very much, and good night everybody.
	Peace.

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