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Jan. 20, 2021 - Minion Death Cult

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Why hasn’t someone shot his ass yet, I’m talking about facebook ceo mark idiot (w/ Jesse Farrar)

This week we're talking Trump's facebook ban and how much conservatives like Mike Lindell (it's a lot!) Listen to Your Kickstarter Sucks, watch Go Off Kings Support Minion Death Cult for $3/month at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult and get a bonus episode every week as well as access to all previous bonus episodes Music: Young Widows - Took A Turn

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	The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... Conservative humor gone awry is going to fascistphonia today, so stay tuned.
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	Stay tuned Okay, I'm Alexander Edward and And I'm Tony Boswell.
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	What's up everybody?
	This is your second or third free episode of the week, so you're welcome for that.
	We have a very special episode today in that we're continuing to talk about the same thing we've been talking about for a little bit.
	It's all we talk about anymore in every facet of our lives.
	Have to just explore every nook and cranny of this wonderful biscuit that was served up to us on a platter.
	And here to do that with us today is Jesse Farrar from the Your Kickstarter Sucks podcast and the Go Off Kings Twitch stream.
	How you doing, Jesse?
	Hey, guys.
	Thanks for having me on.
	I'm doing pretty good.
	Big fans of your content.
	Love that content.
	And thank you so much for joining us today.
	Two big things that kind of like went by the wayside.
	I don't know like I'm on I'm on Twitter now so uh I feel like a lot of the politics happen on Twitter and they don't happen on Facebook as much, you know, because like the politics are happening, right guys?
	Yeah.
	And it's like, where are they happening?
	Are they happening on Twitter?
	Are they happening on Facebook?
	Are they happening on Snapchat?
	You got to figure this out if you want to do them.
	And I feel like, you know, Twitter gets a lot of credit for all the politics.
	But on this show, you know, our purview is, of course, Facebook, and we got to kind of rep our hood, which is, again, Facebook in this instance.
	And I'm just going to say that Facebook suspending Trump's account is at least the second funniest thing that happened in the last week.
	It's pretty incredible.
	It's pretty incredible.
	I feel like just thinking about the clicks that were lost is pretty huge.
	So yeah, bold move.
	Very brave.
	I don't, um, so I don't have a Facebook, um, and, uh, and I think it's clear, maybe just based on the fact that I said a Facebook, um, that's not the right way to talk about it.
	That was wrong.
	No, your instincts were correct.
	No, that's the, that's the correct way.
	You're a natural.
	You should get an honorary one.
	It should be granted to you.
	You shouldn't have to jump through all the hoops.
	Well, I didn't even know there were hoops.
	I can remember my foray into Facebook.
	I mean, I truly have not had one.
	There was a time where I could have said I have never had one, and then I did eventually.
	Maybe in like, I'm guessing like 2000...
	2008?
	2009 maybe?
	I was like I'll get Facebook and I'll get on here and I'll like Reconnect with my high school friends, which is very funny to think about reconnecting With people that you saw three years ago because that's not even I mean That's how long it takes for me to see my actual friends at this point in my life, so Just didn't have a lot going on back then I guess I was like, okay, all the people that I said one thing to in high school, I need to get back on here and I need to see what they're doing.
	And I can remember even posting, I really even posted this and this is so shameful, but it's true.
	I remember posting, why doesn't anybody talk to anybody else on here?
	What is the point of the, why are we going on Facebook?
	I was doing like a fucking Dennis Leary routine when I was three years out of high school.
	Everybody was just posting what they ate for dinner.
	Listen, if I wanted to know that, I'd rent some space in that mouth of yours.
	Can we get just a little more face to face and a little less Facebook please?
	I don't know what I thought was going to happen!
	I don't understand what I thought was going to happen, but I said, you know what?
	None of these people are fucking talking to me.
	Uh, I'm out of here.
	I'm not, I don't want to play Farmville.
	So I'm done.
	I'm never going to go on there again.
	And I just deleted it and have never looked back.
	And then I think from there, I...
	I moved to Twitter, but indirectly, because the way I got onto Twitter was I signed up for a text message answering service called Cha-Cha.
	That sounds familiar.
	That's kind of old, that's some old guy shit.
	That sounds familiar.
	I think we're all like the same age.
	Is that right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You guys look so handsome, I just assume you're younger than me.
	- We'll all say our ages at the same time. - I was born in 1987.
	I'm 33 years of age.
	That's how old everybody is, dude.
	Yeah, that's exactly how old all of we are.
	But I have two kids, and it skyrockets me.
	I have an age factor of 1.5.
	That explains it.
	I only have the one, and I only have her half the time.
	So run that math.
	I'm golden.
	You're good.
	No, you're solid.
	I kind of remember Cha-Cha.
	What was Cha-Cha again?
	I just want to say I have two cats, which is like having one and a half kits.
	Oh, tell me about it.
	It's a very handsome cat that's hanging out in front of the camera right now.
	Thanks, that's her good side.
	Yeah, she looks great.
	Cha-Cha was, the idea was that we all, we all need information.
	And the best way to do that is to ask the experts.
	And that means just anyone who's like at home when you're not at home because In those days, data was pretty severely restricted by today's standards, and it was much easier to text someone a question than it was to load up whatever ancient version of a browser you had on your phone, whether it was smart or not.
	So my thought was, I'm going to get on here, and I believe my thought was that I was going to look up questions for people As like sort of the Mechanical Turk thing like Amazon has, where it's like, I'm gonna get 45 cents for answering someone's text message about like how far away Mars is when they're at the Cheesecake Factory or some shit.
	I vaguely remember this.
	Isn't that crazy?
	Yeah, I'm vaguely remembering.
	It was like a crowdsourced Ask Jeeves thing.
	Yeah.
	There were a lot of them.
	There was also one, ChaCha was one, and then there was, I think, 411, like, eventually spun one off, and then there was some other one that had, like, Blue in the name or something like that, I can't remember what it was, but there were a lot of these services.
	It sounds like to anybody younger than 25, it sounds like we're talking about Morse Code.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and yeah, about as convenient, I think, also.
	But for some reason, in those early days of signing up for shit, it had on there, sign in with Twitter.
	And I was like, huh, I wonder what that is.
	And then that's when I got on Twitter and then that subsisted as my only website that I ever used for like the next 10 years, I guess, you know, which is fucked.
	You know, the failure with Cha-Cha is that you can't actually use it as a source when you're doing college reports.
	You can't.
	It's just like Wikipedia.
	It doesn't count.
	And that was the failure of Cha-Cha.
	They should have done the whole, like, have to upload your ID when you sign on as an answerer to Cha-Cha so that you can use that as a footnote in your essay.
	Oh, it was Jesse?
	Jesse told me this shit!
	This guy right here.
	So I so that's that's interesting.
	I remember I so Facebook has that like time hop feature I don't even think they call it time hop anymore.
	I think they bought bought time hop and now that's just called Facebook again, you know and So I get posts from like 10 years ago when I when I was like, you know first signing up for Facebook or pretty new and it's real embarrassing it's like high-effort posts like high trying to do
	Big long irony thing about beard culture and how I was I was like annoyed by beard coat like the marketing brand the marketing gimmicks around beard culture and then also people being afraid to have beards because of the marketing around you and it was like I Deleted it the second it came up.
	I was like no, this is like three paragraphs too long Shut the fuck up.
	Yeah Yeah, you got a nuke that stuff.
	Yeah But yeah, Facebook did suspend Trump.
	And it's weird because if you go to his profile or his page, it's still up there.
	It says political candidate for some reason.
	It doesn't say president.
	But that's the official page.
	But there's just no posts since January 6th where he's like, I want everybody to be nice.
	Let's just be nice.
	And that's the last thing you can see on his Facebook page, which is very funny to me.
	Yeah it's pretty incredible.
	So his Facebook page, now there's been a lot said and written about his Twitter page and I think with good cause because it was very funny when it wasn't really scary because sometimes it was scary but at other times it was extremely funny especially well back into the past because
	He didn't have the good sense to nuke his embarrassing posts like we were just talking about so you know his obsession with Kristen Stewart or the Vanity Fair guy or whatever all of that stuff stayed up and was extremely funny to read even till its last days and I'm sad that it seems to be gone but I don't get the impression that Facebook was that for him I kind of get the impression that was more was that more like the news part of Trump's social media outreach or what was on there?
	It was a lot of the tweets.
	It was a lot of the short form missives to his followers about the fake news media and there would just be like an accompanying, you know, warning from Facebook saying, you know, the, uh, whatever, the experts dispute the source that MS-13 is giving your children vaccines or whatever.
	But he doesn't, he, the account is new from the point of his presidency.
	So that wasn't, it doesn't date back like Twitter does or anything.
	Like, Twitter was always, I think, his medium over Facebook.
	Yeah.
	But, I mean, he's kind of like the Facebook president.
	Like, he just hones in on every single buzzword and meme floating around in, like, the right-wing boomer and, you know, silent generation, greatest generation, whatever the generation is before the boomers.
	Everything in that sphere, in that mindset, he embodies it pretty perfectly.
	So it's very funny to see him suspended on Facebook and especially over this video, which I'm reading here from Fox News.
	The headline is...
	Facebook blocks Trump indefinitely after Capitol riot response.
	And then the little sub-headline is a poll quote from Zuckerberg that says, risks of allowing the president to continue to use our service during this period are simply too great.
	And it's just, it's giving yourself a lot of credit, I think, to say something like, we can't continue to serve Donald Trump because it could, you know, cause the apocalypse.
	I think people forget that, remember he did that thing where, and they have that thing where if he wants he can just send us a message.
	We can just get a message on our phones.
	No, not since Apple did the update.
	Now they banned the government emergency broadcast system.
	Okay, they did do that?
	Well, that's what I read.
	I read that.
	It's several different comments.
	I believe they did do that.
	I haven't gotten one since the update.
	Have you, Tony?
	Well, I've, I've, I don't remember.
	I always had him turned off anyways.
	But it's like, it's still pretty powerful.
	Like I, you know, I'm unfortunately like a lot of kids are still missing around me and I just haven't been able to help with that.
	But, um, but yeah, I think it's been like, I've, I remember the one, there was like one message that went out, um, that I think I did get and it never got used after that.
	I'm surprised some lib didn't make, like, a fake screenshot that was, like, Amber Alert, a young girl named Liberty is trapped in the back of a white panel van, you know, driven by an orange-haired maniac.
	You know, license plate says Drumpf on it.
	It would say Drumpf, too, yeah.
	It would say Drumpf.
	Um, so you don't think, so it sounded like what you were saying was, is you don't think that it was, it was, you don't think it was necessary for them to ban him?
	You don't think that was a, you don't know if that was justified?
	What was your, what do you think about that?
	Um, I think it's funny because in the video that they're using for evidence, uh, is the video that everybody's been talking about where he was like forced, he was like trotted out, you know?
	Like, uh, A bag was just removed from his head off camera and he was pushed in front of the lens and he said, I'm reading here, he said, I know your pain, I know you're hurt.
	We had an election that was stolen from us.
	It was a landslide election and everybody knows it, especially the other side.
	But you have to go home now.
	We have to have peace.
	We have to have law and order.
	We have to respect our great people in law and order.
	We love them, folks.
	We love those people in Law & Order.
	We don't want anyone hurt, and it's... Jack McCoy... Ice-T... And it's just, I don't know, it's him, like, at his most weak looking, you know?
	And it's like, they said that they finally suspended him because he still said, he insisted that the The steal wasn't stopped, right?
	He insisted that it was still a steal, or whatever, and it's just a funny point at which they can finally ban him.
	He's just... You know, I'm going to possibly repeat a right-wing talking point here, but that doesn't mean it's not accurate.
	They've had enough of him.
	They used him all up.
	He's not really worth anything to them anymore, so they can finally ban him.
	Yeah, the tide had turned, right?
	It's a farce that this last missive was the straw that broke the camel's back.
	I mean, it's not like there's a graduated cylinder and you fill it all up with Trump's lies and they just got to the tippy-top.
	I mean, that's absurd.
	I mean, as evidenced by the fact that Once I don't even know what the first one was at this point was it the Twitter suspension that then kicked everything else off and now we're all the way Like we're all the way down to parlor now can't find Like a web host or whatever and we're we've gotten all the way down to this point and it's all It's all just I don't want to be the only one and
	And there is a small part of me that is sympathetic to the notion that you don't want to be the only service that has people showing up threatening to burn down the building.
	I think that's acting in rational self-interest to a certain extent.
	It doesn't excuse I mean literally everything else all of these places do especially Facebook and especially Zuckerberg and you guys know that better than anybody how everything is to their advantage and it's set up that way by default but if I were just some guy who worked at Facebook first of all I'd kill myself just kidding don't do that but I wouldn't want to work at Facebook But if I did, I might think, what if somebody drives a fucking car in here because we kicked Trump off?
	I might be a little scared!
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	I think that's all fair.
	I mean, I, uh...
	It's funny to me to think that Trump himself is the source of this misinformation or whatever, when just social media itself is now a cottage industry of people.
	Like the QAnon phenomenon, that proliferated without any support from Trump or acknowledgement from him whatsoever.
	That was just bored people who didn't like soap operas, they liked QAnon.
	And you can't... you can't stop that, you know?
	And it's just, um... I, uh...
	I don't know, I get what you're saying about not wanting Trump on your platform and then also being scared that there's going to be some reaction to it.
	Yeah.
	But it's really hard for me to put myself in that position when you're already controlling so much of the conversation.
	Sure.
	I don't know what sort of...
	What they're even considering.
	I think they're just considering, like, how much they can get away with in one direction or another.
	Because it's not really gonna hurt their bottom line to even kick the President of the United States off.
	No.
	I think it's interesting that they kicked him off and they didn't just, like, shadowban him.
	That's what I would have liked to see you done.
	That was all, I think you could maybe call the like passive-aggressive, you know, fact-checkers have rated this claim half true.
	Like that is kind of like a shadow ban in a way.
	I think the responses to this are the usual stuff like Harold Northern here on Facebook saying, why hasn't somebody shot his ass yet?
	I'm talking about Facebook CEO Mark Idiot.
	Just to make it clear, I'm talking about Facebook's CEO, Mark Idiot, in case you're wondering who him is.
	It could have been Trump.
	He could have been talking about Trump in that, but you need the Mark Idiot part, and that hits, too.
	It sucks that Mark Zuckerberg can't sue Facebook for allowing that to be published.
	Yeah, heavy as the head.
	That's the double-edged sword of being in power.
	I like it a lot.
	Hey, relax.
	I'm just talking about Mark Idiot.
	I like that a lot.
	I like that he's like, hey, I'm talking about, we should kill this guy.
	And just to be clear, I, Harold Northern, am talking about the CEO of Facebook.
	Right.
	And then, of course, the Mark Idiot.
	I love that because it's not, you know, it's not Mark Fuckerberg, it's not Mark Suckerberg, it's just straight to the point Mark Idiot.
	This thing that boomers are really good at, not boomers, just Facebook reactionaries are really good at, is on balance comments.
	It, like, begins with murder and ends with idiot.
	Like, this is a pretty harmless attack following like a, I'm gonna end your life.
	Hey, here's your sign.
	It's police tape.
	It's a chalk outline around your body.
	You might be a dead guy.
	You might be a victim of my murderous rage.
	Me, Harold Northern.
	Then, yeah, another good reaction.
	This was a very common one.
	This was my favorite reaction to Facebook suspending Trump.
	Rhonda Thomas Florimbe says, if they can ban the president, they can ban any of us that disagree with Zuckerberg's political perspective.
	Dangerous!
	I like that a lot.
	Yeah.
	Have you not been to the many pages that are filled with people complaining about being put in Facebook prison?
	Being banned from their other accounts?
	So this is goofy, and it's very funny that it's attached to.
	I'm thinking this is an artifact of Facebook.
	The overly common three-named person thing?
	That happens on Facebook specifically because they just sign up with their name and it's like the whole thing just blasts out there, right?
	There's a lot of joint accounts on Facebook as well.
	So you might get like two names together with the letter N in the middle of them.
	And that's usually a couple that has had some sort of indiscretion pass between them.
	So now they have a joint Facebook account.
	That's okay.
	But so, this is very stupid, I think.
	And it's very funny.
	But, I think it's even funnier to me seeing this sentiment divorced from the Twitter discourse, which is essentially what everyone was talking about, at least in all the circles that I'm exposed to on Twitter, except for saying it in this, like, dumbass guy type of way.
	But on Twitter, it was a very similar sentiment, which is, Banning Trump is, you know, this is the slippery slope, this is where it all starts, and this is where free speech ends, and check me out on Fox News later as well having the same argument.
	Yeah.
	So it seems like the dipshits really seem to think this, but also it seems like some smart people also seem to think this as well.
	There's a little bit of an overlap between people who feel this way.
	How do you feel about it, Jesse?
	We've heard how the idiots feel and how the smart people feel.
	How does Jesse feel about it?
	The average Joe.
	I mean, I think I'm picking up from what you guys are saying.
	The number one thing to me is that it is funny.
	Correct.
	So, and now is that a defense mechanism?
	I don't know.
	I'll talk to my therapist about it at some point.
	How do I deal with the horrors of the world?
	I don't fucking talk about that at all.
	But, I think number one it is funny.
	I also think It is funny whether you are what I would describe as a bad person, which is a dope on Facebook who gets on there to share this psycho shit all the time.
	Or if you're what I would describe as generally a good person, which is you go on Twitter and say nice things about people.
	That's fine, but either way, if you're just coming to the conclusion that your social media account can be taken away from you at any point for any reason, and there's no righteousness or justice involved with it, I think you're a little bit of a bozo.
	That's just part of it.
	If, like me, I wouldn't say that my livelihood depends on having a Twitter account, but it would be harder, probably, if I didn't have one.
	So, I have to know that when I say to someone, eat my ass, you little worm, I have to know that I'm sort of taking that shit into my hands every time I do that.
	Yeah.
	I could get popped whenever!
	And that makes you, I think, a more courageous person.
	The fact that you have that knowledge.
	You know, you're not just flying blind like a, you know, you're not a, you're not a, what is it, like a fresh spring chicken, or I think that's right?
	That's right.
	Yeah, you know the possible ramifications of it.
	That's, I mean, who's, yeah, it's like, it's like that gallows meme with, what's his face, the handsome sex predator, what's his name again?
	I wish I narrowed it down.
	Where to even start?
	A lot of handsome... It's that guy who's got the brother and he's like... Casey Affleck?
	We're getting closer.
	Okay, he's got a brother.
	He's got three names.
	It's that Stephen King one where the guy goes to the past, I think.
	Oh, uh, well that story is 8-22-63, right?
	Yeah, isn't the guy who played the Green Goblin's son... Oh, James Franco?
	Yeah, okay, so that's only two names.
	So, it's that meme where he's on the gallows, and it's like, yeah, Donald Trump getting hung, and he looks over at James Franco, but it's like Amy Teresa's user picture on his face, and he's like, first time?
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's the Coen Brothers movie.
	And I'm going to already say I got the date wrong.
	It's 11-22-63.
	And I had to look that up because I don't want somebody saying, this guy doesn't know when President Kennedy got shot, okay?
	He's some dum-dum.
	And that's true.
	I don't know.
	How am I supposed to laugh at anything he says on Minion Death Coat?
	We're actually going to edit the part out where you fix it.
	And you're just going to have to deal with the replies.
	Did I get the movie right?
	Is that the right movie?
	You said Coen Brothers.
	So it's a different thing.
	No, the meme is from the Coen Brothers, that show on HBO, the Buster Scruggs.
	It was Netflix, the Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
	Yeah, Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
	We're getting close to knowing things.
	Together we'll figure this out.
	And all of that was to reference a meme that's purely visual.
	But I didn't know the guy.
	You guys look it up.
	I didn't know the guy.
	I need to figure out who the guy is before I can say the meme.
	But you're right.
	That is what it is like.
	That is exactly what it's like.
	That's how I feel when everyone talks about this.
	Sometimes I do feel like I'm going nuts a little bit.
	And I think that's probably part of the point of this stuff.
	Is you do... They do want you to feel like you are going nuts.
	Because you become more defensive.
	You have this instinct to bury yourself deeper in whatever it is that's making you feel more nuts.
	Whether it's, you know...
	Solipsistic Twitter discourse, or whether it's, you know, James Franco memes, or whether it's, you know, QAnon conspiracy theories, whatever it is, whether you're exposed to it ironically or unironically, you just get in there and fucking dig around, and you get more slop in your brain, and you turn to a big sloppy brain moron, you know?
	And that's how I fucking feel when people are like, Trump is gone!
	Now they're gonna come for all the leftists!
	Yeah!
	No shit!
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	Yeah.
	First they came for the most powerful man in the earth, and I said nothing What the fuck are you talking?
	Yeah, I don't I don't I love it.
	It's like the perfect dumb guy argument to this Hey, if they can come after the freaking president they can come after anyone including my like, you know, my tentacle porn slash seizure seizure inducing Twitter account I just, yeah, that guy, that thing is scary with that fucking guy, which, that guy's a massive piece of shit.
	That one actually did flip my head around a little bit, um, with the, uh, with Kurt Eichenwald, that fucking thing.
	I was kind of like, damn!
	I mean, I've never sent something to someone like that before, but like I said, I have told people to eat my ass before, and that one kind of did make me think a little bit.
	I have no clue what you guys are talking about.
	Well, it's really nasty.
	It's really bad.
	Don't need to go in.
	I want to find a way to send a vaccine through a gif to somebody.
	And damage them that way, you know?
	Yeah, so those are the typical responses.
	I want to kill Mark Zuckerberg.
	I'm going to do it.
	This is my name.
	This is what city I'm in.
	Another good response was people whining so hard about how Trump got suspended from Twitter, but not the Ayatollah of Iran.
	Yeah.
	Double standard.
	Yeah.
	A little bit of being a hypocrite there, Twitter.
	Little Twitter birds.
	If the progressives didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards, right?
	That's good.
	And that's why this ultra-conservative is allowed to stay on Facebook when he says, death to America.
	I mean, that part's cool.
	We can't fault him for that.
	Yeah.
	I think we've all tweeted exactly that at some point.
	And then Rebecca Deglo Adamson, I think you're getting a weird, like, biased look at Facebook.
	All these names are three names here.
	Rebecca Deglo Adamson says, DELETE FAKE BOOK!
	THERE ARE OTHER PLATFORMS!
	And then James Winstead replies, have you deleted it yet?
	And Rebecca replies, OBVIOUSLY NOT YET!
	She's like, I'm only doing this post to screen grab it and post it on other platforms.
	Yeah.
	I'm through steps three of four of the two two-factor authentication.
	There's so much pathos in what Rebecca says there, because even though she is totally psycho, she's also right.
	You should delete fakebook.
	And there are other platforms, they're also really bad as well, so there's no difference.
	But then the other part where she says, not yet, I fucking felt that!
	I know what she's going through, she's right!
	You know?
	We should get off of this ship, but we're not gonna.
	Yeah.
	Hour three of scrolling and you're like, I gotta stop this.
	I'm gonna end this tomorrow.
	I'm not doing this anymore.
	I am really surprised that the response wasn't like, this is actually Rebecca's husband using her profile.
	I have in fact deleted mine.
	So, another fascinating place to us on this show is the Fox News comment section.
	Gotta love it.
	It's where we go to get a little more verbose racism and a little more eloquently expressed brain worms.
	It's a pretty good source.
	And so, once again, this is still just, you know, an article about Trump being suspended by Facebook.
	And Susanna says, Facebook and Twitter let rioters during the summer plan on their platforms, yet never informed anyone in those cities or any FBI agents.
	So this is just the first half of the comment, but it's like a common refrain, like these fucking whiners are like, how come Antifa gets to plan the murder of police officers in broad daylight on Facebook, and yet conservatives can't simply express their innocent opinions about Ilhan Omar's underage daughter?
	and uh it's it's of course like you know 100% of fraudulent argument given I mean if if you were to somehow be able to quantify the number of profiles that are actually like you know blocked post-blocked Suspended, etc.
	I guarantee you it's more like 19-year-old college students saying white men are trash than it is, you know, 65-year-old grandmas who say we need a cleansing rain to fall on Congress.
	That's exactly what it is.
	I was shocked that that's what it took, because all he would have had to do was say, manor trash, and he would have been at least suspended.
	But yeah, you're right.
	That's exactly who's suffering from this more.
	It's typically people like sex workers, feminists in general.
	That's who's getting deplatformed way more than anybody else.
	They're just like, no, we got to protect it before this gets out of hand.
	Regular people are going to be affected by this.
	The rest of this comment is, however, much more interesting than that.
	So again, Facebook and Twitter let rioters during the summer plan on their platforms.
	He had never informed anyone.
	And half of those are probably like, hey, Antifa here, we're all gonna go out to Sturgis and beat up every single hardcore biker we see.
	So be ready for us.
	You know, that's half of what they're talking about here.
	Also, they're on Twitter.
	They're watching Twitter.
	That's not a secret.
	Anybody who knows anything about police and surveillance knows that they're on Twitter.
	And Facebook.
	So they don't have to be informed by it because they're already there.
	Soros and Hollywood are also anti-American.
	This has got to stop.
	There has to be caps on election donations.
	I mean, make a new comment.
	There's too many ideas.
	You need an editor in there to kind of flush some of these things out.
	You know what?
	I am persuaded by their logic.
	You know what?
	We do need to...
	Revoke Citizens United.
	We need to repeal that.
	Soros has gone too far.
	Hollywood has gone too far.
	The pedophile billionaires who are all globo-homo, you know, communists or whatever.
	They're all too powerful and they prop up too many of these elections.
	We need to get to some sort of public funding for elections.
	I agree wholeheartedly with this.
	Just having no clue who they really have to thank for these people they love.
	They're just shooting themselves in the foot.
	Yeah, like I said, I totally agree.
	I think we all agree with that.
	We should put a cap on donations.
	We should do less.
	We should get big money out of politics.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Well, it's just, once again, an indication of how much this is all just cultural.
	And they think it's political, but it's just cultural.
	Like, these are the people I don't like, and they have this crazy amount of power.
	And I have no idea why they have this amount of power, but we need to, like, punish them or restrict that power in some way.
	And so I'm going to independently arrive at the idea of, like, publicly financed elections in order to own The Jewish boogeyman of George Soros.
	Yeah.
	It does suck that so much of it ends...
	I don't know if it's like the it's not the conclusion certainly because so many of them go so much further than that but like it sucks that it does end up with anti-semitism and racism and that kind of stuff because if it could be just purely cultural and they could just focus that energy purely on hating all of the new movies and TV shows that come out I think I would get like a lot more enjoyment out of the futility of that that rage that they have because
	The thing that they do more than anything else, and this is encapsulated in Trump, is they fucking sit in front of the TV and watch whatever is on.
	So the fact that they're sitting down and fucking hating every minute of it is so good to me to think about when a new show comes on.
	And the other thing that's fucked is how much of the stuff is like directly speaking to these people like there's a new cop show I just looked up at the fucking TV there's a new cop show with some other new square-jawed psycho has a new cop show coming out and there's the firefighter show on next What the fuck?
	Who's this for?
	It's for these clowns, you know?
	It's not for me.
	There's so many good shows coming out.
	There's the show about, like, a border patrol agent who gets kidnapped by the Mexican cartels.
	And has his, like, family held hostage.
	And he, you know what?
	This border patrol agent, he actually has to break some rules in order to get his family back.
	Yeah.
	And then there's also, I think we might cover this one, Tony, I just saw it today.
	There's, who's like, who's like the kind of pretty athletic guy from Parks and Rec who like joins, he's like their manager guy?
	Uh, he's like an older, not an older actor, but he's- Rob Lowe?
	Yeah, Rob Lowe.
	He's- That's what I just looked up and saw on the TV?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It's called Lone Star 911 and he plays a cop and he's like talking down fucking, uh, what's his, uh, an amalgamation or like, uh, a metaphor for, uh, the Killdozer guy.
	There's like a Killdozer- There's like a Killdozer guy who's doing the tank run, the Killdozer tank run because his daughter didn't get enough credit as a dead troop.
	And so he's got a photograph of her in her fatigues and then Rob Lowe is over the call.
	He calls him on his cell phone and he's like, you know what, I understand what it's like to lose somebody because we all lost people on 9-11.
	And that's like his argument.
	And he's standing in front of the police precinct, facing the tank that's headed towards them.
	We gotta cover that episode at least.
	Aw, that's gonna be awesome.
	I can't wait for that.
	Who do you root for in that one?
	If you're these people, who are you rooting for?
	Tough.
	That's tough.
	You're right though, I mean the media is for them, but they wouldn't know it because there's occasionally like an interracial Cheerios commercial or something like that.
	But it is funny that so many of these people are coming to the conclusion That big tech has inordinate amounts of power and they need to be broken up.
	You know, this one is obviously like, it's doing the anti-semitism meme, the Soros meme, but I had, I can't remember what, I was in mixed company and, on Facebook of course, and the argument, something was like, oh it's, how can we stand by this precedent of banning the president?
	And I said precedent doesn't matter when you're dealing with a private company who can ban whomever they want.
	The real problem is the amount of power that these companies have in the first place over what should obviously be a public good.
	I'm saying nationalized posting.
	We should all get posting.
	And then I had a guy who had his avatar was some fake-ass, the like, emblem for some fake-ass political party called the Patriot Party, and it had a lion on it for Trump, and he responded to me and he said, 100% brother!
	Or whatever.
	Like, I agree!
	And it's like, yeah, like, these people, like, they're stupid.
	You can just say something that makes sense as long as you don't, like, say the word, like, Democrat or Nancy Pelosi or Socialism or whatever in it.
	And it's like, they don't know, they don't have a fixed set of beliefs per se.
	So, I, if the Democrats were at all, like, on our side, they would take this opportunity to break up Facebook, to break up Twitter.
	I don't know if I would want the Democrats necessarily nationalizing those platforms, but could it really be much worse than them being in the hands of a private company?
	I don't think so.
	That's an interesting question.
	You know, only because like, I still have dreams and ambitions of starting my own social networking site.
	It's just gonna be all feet.
	But it's like the footopedia, except for like, it's me and you sharing each other.
	And so I don't want them coming in here and taking that over.
	Like, that's fucking bullshit.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You have to keep an eye out for yourself, number one, and your entrepreneurial instincts are telling you this may not be good for business, and I respect that.
	One of the final comments on this topic is, again, Bullbarrel25-06 says, there are too many people in this country And I've expected the comments to stop there.
	That's kind of how the comments usually go.
	There are too many people in this country that have way too much power getting a little scary.
	And it's like, yeah, like sure, like just, I mean, you know, you're, you're really like, it's hard to sympathize with you because what you're talking about is the most powerful person in the world who can launch nukes anywhere, you know, on this earth, uh, can't post, you know, from Twitter or Facebook or whatever.
	So that part is extremely silly.
	Uh, but.
	Maybe deep down they really believe this like in a somewhat ideological or somewhat you know moralistic way and it's yeah if if there were a even a center-left party in this country You could easily take advantage of this sentiment.
	Say, yeah, you know what, you're right.
	Like, we believe Donald Trump should be able to post.
	That's why we're breaking up Twitter and Facebook and Google and also the banks.
	You know, you could say this shit and it would like fly with a lot of these people, but instead the Democrats are like, no, actually we're gonna give Mark Zuckerberg RPGs.
	So he can personally like take out the white supremacist terrorists, you know, from his panopticon.
	I mean, but the reason that we don't have a center-left party is the same reason that the Democrats are the way that they are, right?
	This is like a natural... This is the way that it would be.
	If you restarted America a hundred times, I think we'd end up in the same fucking spot every single time.
	This is the way that it had to be.
	I think these people would be a lot happier.
	I think there are a lot of people...
	That would be our ideological colleagues that would be a lot happier if they could accept the fact that we're not in control of our lives or anything else.
	We can get removed from any website at any point.
	Like you said, somebody could launch a nuke and we'll all just be vaporized at any moment.
	The thing I think about all the time is Some guy can have a bad day on his way to work and just run me off the road and just flip my car and that's it.
	Like it's just done for me.
	I have no control over any of this shit.
	So I'm trying to be nice to people who deserve it.
	And I'm trying to take care of myself and my family and I want to help take care of other people to the extent that I can.
	But I think engaging in the fantasy of My voice is very important for other people to hear or my vote is this precious thing that I have to hold on to and like protect with my life or you know one day I want the laws to be written in such a way that one day the
	The communist revolution that's coming will have the same chance that the weird capital siege had when they walked up to there and just did whatever they wanted, right?
	I think if we could dispense with those fantasies that we can't and won't be lasered by a drone from 10 miles away whenever we get close to doing anything that we want to do, maybe it'll be easier just to like Live the daily life of just being like, well, this may be my last post, so here it goes, you know?
	Here goes nothing on my last post.
	You're saying you want a grill.
	That's what you're saying.
	Well, it has been a couple months since I've been able to get out there and flip some burgers, for sure.
	Which shouldn't be $15 an hour.
	Let me just say this.
	No, sorry.
	I do it for free all the time.
	You know, what I really want to see here is, I think it'd be smart, I think now is the time for my favorite social networking site of past that I miss terribly.
	I think it's now's the time for Black Planet to make a return.
	And I think that all the conservatives, I think we should just, all conservatives can go there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And like, you know, I think it'd be really funny to see a bunch of like MAGA chuds setting up Black Planet profiles.
	Now, what is that?
	It was literally my space for black people.
	Oh wow.
	It was, it was tight.
	It was awesome.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It was like, it was one of the best, it was one of the best social networking, like social networks ever.
	Um, it was early in that, it was early in that, that stage.
	It was MySpace era.
	Um, Friendster era even.
	Wow.
	And it was, it was the shit and it was, it was cool because basically what ended up happening was, is, uh, you know, you'd have a, you'd have your profile, whatever your profile pick.
	Um, and if you weren't black, you would just get roasted and it was awesome.
	And here's another thing.
	We can have a black planet, but we can't have a white planet?
	That's interesting.
	That's why I'm a Mormon Okay, so moving on to the the second topic one Once again, in the wake of just this excellent week we've been having, Donald Trump banned from social media.
	Donald Trump sort of had his little nose tapped by even the Republican Party for, you know, like inviting people to come kill a cop on the Capitol building.
	And one of, you know, they're sort of like, you know, we're sort of all waiting to see what he's gonna do.
	Is he gonna do anything funny or interesting?
	You know, like he can't post anything, unfortunately.
	So is he just gonna do anything in real life that's like worth talking about or worth seeing?
	And one of those things, fortunately, we got was Mike Lindell of the MyPillow fame, of the MyPillow company, right?
	Visited Trump.
	In case you're not familiar, he's a guy with a pillow.
	He's a guy who does a pillow.
	And it's apparently a pretty good pillow.
	Has anybody tried the pillow here?
	I've never had the pleasure.
	My understanding is that it is a fairly standard, not that great, shredded foam pillow.
	I don't know that for a fact.
	Do you guys have any intel on what it actually is?
	My closest encounter with MyPillow was about Four years, four or five years ago, I shipped one in my UPS warehouse that I was loading trucks.
	And this is obviously before, you know, Donald Trump became president.
	And yes, it was like five or six years ago.
	I saw this box come down the belt and it had a weird guy with an open button You know a button-up shirt that was open displaying his cross on his chest Hugging a pillow on on the you know label on on the box and I was like this guy's amazing like look at that fucking cross and And I put I I have the post to prove it on my Instagram from way back then that's and if I mean it was it was A good enough pillow to be shipped on its own.
	I feel like that's a mark in its column.
	You know, in 2015, 2014, just shipping a single pillow?
	It's gotta be a pretty good pillow.
	It's so wild that you were looking at that and like, look at this awesome guy.
	This is so insane.
	Look at this completely harmless person.
	There's no way that I will be talking about this person later on.
	There's no way they're going to be like funneling lots and lots of money into things that we hate.
	That's not a thing.
	There's no way this guy's going to be like a personal confidant of the most powerful person on the planet.
	So he visited President Trump.
	And here I have a little bit of reading.
	Mike Lindell.
	So, okay, I'll just say, yeah.
	People like, you know, photographed him leaving or entering the meeting or leaving the meeting.
	And they could see like the, like somewhat of the content that he was carrying with him.
	Including, you know, like some memo that he was carrying that included like the phrase martial law.
	It said, uh, it was like a clipped phrase, because you can only see half the page, but it was like, you know, institute martial law if, you know, whatever, if- if they're not cool enough to you.
	Uh, and, uh, Lindell claimed ignorance about the contents of the memo, which was partially captured by a Washington Post photographer as Lindell waited to enter the White House.
	I didn't know what was in it, he said.
	I'm just a pillow guy.
	I didn't know what was in it.
	I didn't know who some of the people even were.
	He explained that the unnamed lawyer asked him, quote, if you get a meeting, can you drop this off?
	So he's saying that he relayed the martial law memo to Trump on behalf of this unnamed lawyer.
	Lindell said he presented his information to the president for about five minutes before Trump referred him to the White House Counsel's office.
	He also argued that China and Russia hacked the election, bringing a false article from the American Report, a conspiracy theory right-wing website, as his evidence.
	But Lindell said Trump was non-committal on what he would do with the information and told him to talk to the lawyers who were dismissive and argued with him.
	They were skeptical, Lindell said.
	They were disinterested, very disinterested.
	They are giving the president the wrong advice.
	He said the lawyers did not allow him to see Trump again.
	That's such a great note.
	It's perfect.
	It's absolutely perfect.
	This was the same day that they took photos of everybody leaving the White House with like, just all of the bullshit too, right?
	Yeah, it was storage bins, like clear storage bins that said storage on, like somebody, some staffer had to print out a large, like, you know, Eight and a half by eleven piece of printer paper that said storage on it and slap it on the side of these things and you could see through them and one of them was just like an article that had Trump's face on it.
	One of them was like a magazine that had Trump's face on it.
	Well they had to label the boxes because the other box just said incinerator.
	You really don't want to get those two mixed up.
	Go ahead.
	It doesn't ultimately matter because I think the result is going to be the same.
	I guess I'm one of the absolute dopey cucked libs who does happen to think that if anything had gone even 10% different during the Capitol siege slash riot or if any of the court cases for whatever reason just because The judge was a Trump psycho or whatever.
	If anything had gone even slightly differently, I do think there was a legitimate chance that he would have tried his hardest to stay in office.
	Because he's that stupid and wants power that much and can be enriched by it that much, and nothing else really matters.
	And I guess in that sense, I think we're lucky that that's not happening.
	Um, but I think at this point even he's done, right?
	I think even he's like, all right, I, I just got, I have to go do something.
	I'm, I don't want people to like be mean to me anymore.
	I feel like even him who lives for drama and lives for attention, I think even he is overwhelmed at this point by the concept of having to stay in there and have these things go out every day that says, Well, Trump didn't do anything today.
	Sorry.
	Come back to- I mean, they're releasing this shit every day that says he was tired.
	He didn't do- I mean, that must be crushing for him.
	He hates that idea.
	I, um... You're- I read an article today that said he's moving to Florida.
	He's not gonna be in New York anymore.
	He's gonna move to, you know, fucking St.
	Petersburg, Florida, like, or wherever.
	The nexus of all bad things that this show covered.
	He's going to the source.
	He's going to visit the source of the right-wing magic in this country, like Bink in the Xanth series, and he's going to sort of bask in it.
	And I saw some, like, speculation that Ivanka was gonna run for Senate, which would be really funny.
	I mean, Maybe she would win in Florida.
	I don't think she's psycho enough to win in Florida, to be honest.
	But as far as what you're saying about there being a coup or Trump winning a challenge for this election, Um, I think you're not wrong when it comes to the courts.
	I think you're absolutely right that if it had been closer, like, yeah, the courts all lean right.
	Like they leaned right before Trump's presidency and after Trump's.
	I mean, Trump is an extremely accomplished president for how fucking goofy he is, how big of a joke he is.
	Like he, the amount of damage he's, he's done to the, the, and it's funny to even talk about, I feel like a lib even talking about it in these terms, the damage he's done to the justice system.
	Like, it was already bad.
	Yeah, it's true!
	Those guys are right sometimes.
	I hate their fucking guts, but occasionally they do say something that makes sense.
	Yeah, so I think you're not wrong there.
	If it had been close, like, he did try.
	He did try, and if it had been close, they would have let him.
	But as far as, like, the Capitol Hill thing, I'm softening my stance from our episode on it.
	Where I will say if things had gone slightly differently, like a congressperson or a senator like might have been shot or might have died, I think that's fair to say.
	I don't think that's like hyperbolic or histrionic or hysterical to say.
	I still don't think that counts as a coup.
	You're not going to get power by killing a senator.
	You're not going to get power by occupying the Senate floor and taking selfies or, you know, sitting in Mitch, like, you're not going to put on Mitch McConnell's glasses and pass a bill that ends the IRS.
	That's just not how power works in this country.
	And not to mention that they're already on the side of where the power is in this country.
	So I still think it's It is histrionic to say that this was a coup attempt, or it could have been a coup, but they could have been much worse.
	It could have easily been much worse for members of Congress, specifically, or for, you know, the national, what do you call it, like the zeitgeist, or however, you know, seeing a senator get popped in Capitol Hill probably wouldn't have been good for the nation.
	One thing I will say about this is, I mean, what's funny about what happened on the 6th is that I had been talking about, I had been anticipating basically that for a long time, and I had been saying that a lot, and people were like, you're an idiot, calm down.
	So that was pretty like, I was like, yeah, fucking of course it's going to happen.
	We're going to see something interesting happen before Wednesday, before the inauguration.
	I just I just think there's I don't know I don't know what it's gonna be it literally might just be him you know interrupting inauguration just yelling no like no don't we're not doing this but I think something interesting is gonna happen and I don't I I don't know what it's gonna be but I'm I'm I these people haven't let me down yet so I I something
	You're just trying to get people to tune into the Patreon episode.
	I'm not not trying to do that.
	It's smart.
	We will be the only place covering what's actually happening.
	You won't hear anybody else.
	Really important stuff.
	We have some pretty high access being as a we are who we are well it none of it spells like i want to re i want to maybe clarify something like it was fun to watch uh these weirdos like get their heart's desire and once again like you know mill around and like you know tap
	Scuffed their toe on the on the carpet because they didn't know what to do once they got it It's not a good it doesn't like it's not good It's it doesn't foretell anything good for this country that the cops let them in That there is this agitated base that is willing to like do shit like this.
	That's that's not good That's that's not what I'm trying to say when I when I laugh at this or when I dismiss it as not a credible coup attempt I want to get into more of these Mike Lindell responses because they took a turn that I wasn't expecting.
	Oh, we haven't gotten any of the Mike Lindell responses, actually.
	So there's the initial Mike Lindell responses, which are good and funny, and then there's a turn they take later that I already ruined for the listener.
	Marcus Raiden says of Mike Lindell, you know, visiting the White House and having his, like, secret plans for martial law that he says he didn't even know.
	I just got it from a guy.
	I was holding it for a friend, an unnamed lawyer, or whatever.
	Marcus Raiden says...
	In case you never had a fight with gangbangers in the street, you never show the enemy you have a weapon until it is too late for them to do anything about it.
	Same with Mike Lindell.
	That's... That's not good.
	Except for the part where, like, you are actually... There's a picture of you walking up to the gang you're about to fight and your gun's hanging out of your pocket and they see that picture.
	Yeah.
	Before the fight happens.
	The gun's hanging out of your ass, like, in a really embarrassing way.
	You can read like three-fourths of the serial number on the gun as it's waddling up to you.
	I love that.
	Yeah, this is a fucking OG right here.
	This is an OG who knows to play.
	They're conflating, I feel like, a few metaphors.
	I think they're mixing up, like, keep your cards close to the vest with don't let your enemy know you're strapped, which is probably the opposite thing you want your enemy to know.
	I think you like want, you know, your enemy to know that you are carrying a weapon on you.
	Well, I mean, I don't know.
	I've only been in a couple fights with street gangs.
	So, and um, every time, every time they, you know, I just happened to not be, so it was not up to me.
	I had no choice there.
	Did you like, uh, wait until the last second and then you flicked a Derringer out of your sleeve like Travis Bickle and shot him in the chest?
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, actually what I did is that's when I decided to cock my forearms and unleash these lethal weapons that I carry on me everywhere I go.
	These two fists right here.
	Oh yeah.
	That's what real men use.
	I think these guys, they're not thinking about fighting with street gangs.
	I think they're thinking about anime.
	I think that's the, I think they're confused.
	You're supposed to wait until you're almost beat and then you unleash the massive weapon that nobody saw coming.
	Where did you get that?
	I didn't think you could wield that.
	That's right.
	It's a paper that says martial law on it.
	Listen, if your enemy knows which Digimon you're gonna play, that's bad.
	- There's a big crater in the ground where they used to stand, you know? - Listen, if your enemy knows which Digimon you're gonna play, that's bad.
	That's bad for you.
	Yeah, and I also like it like a Vash the Stampede type thing.
	Like, you don't want to have to use it.
	You don't want to have to use the paper that says martial law.
	But, you know, at a certain point, the power overtakes you.
	And yeah, you're forced to obliterate an entire town with your left arm.
	It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
	That's true.
	And then PD Boll said, join in the, comma, National Day of Silence on 01.20.2021.
	I'm not familiar with this formatting of a date.
	Maybe they're Icelandic or something like that.
	Join the National Day of Silence on January 20th, 2021.
	20th, 2021 quote, inauguration day.
	I'll get it.
	Inauguration day.
	Stay off... I love that.
	That's petty.
	I love that.
	That's just an appetizer for what's coming though.
	Yeah.
	Stay off of Facebook and Twitter.
	Not much of a change to that one.
	That one's not the strongest one, yeah.
	Oh, I like that.
	That's good, because I don't know if you've ever been made fun of by an old person, but if they call you a twit, then you're really in for it.
	Yeah.
	I like twatter.
	I think that one's a little better.
	Oh, that's gross.
	I don't like that at all.
	No ordering from Scamazon.
	And avoid Bloogle as much as possible.
	Now help me with Bloogle.
	Help me with that one.
	I don't think I can.
	I think this is the rare instance where I can't, I can't dissect what they mean.
	Like, are they confusing?
	Like, do they think Bloomberg owns Google?
	Like, what old-timey curse word is a portmanteau of Google, is part of this portmanteau?
	I don't know.
	Black.
	They're just saying Google's black, and you know what that means to these people.
	Yeah.
	Um, I, like blue, like blue dog Democrat, like, like blue... My thought was blood, Google, and they have blood on their hands.
	So... Yeah, and Bluto sounded terrible.
	Yeah, but they would have used the red B, the red B emoji if that's what they meant.
	Maybe they're Crips.
	It could be that.
	They wouldn't use the B at all, so never mind.
	You really haven't tussled with that many street gangs, have you?
	The 5th.
	The 5th.
	Let our silence be deafening.
	No legit Joe.
	86-46.
	Which, if you're not familiar, I read in an article that it means kill Joe Biden.
	86-46 means kill whatever numbered president comes after 86.
	It used to be 45, which was Donald Trump, and now it's Joe Biden.
	I thought it was just like not letting him come back to the bar.
	No.
	I'm good with that.
	You need to start reading the daily wire because it means kill.
	It means kill 45 when it's 86-45, so I'm assuming that's what it means here.
	I hope people listen to this because that would actually be awesome to have a day- No, we might get bored real fast.
	But to have a day of just chud-free internet?
	Just no in- just nothing.
	Just no posts from them.
	I wonder what would happen.
	This is, um, this is Day Without a Mexican.
	But it's Day Without, you know, your aunt instead.
	Or whatever.
	Except for we just wake up and don't have a weird anxiety that we can't put our finger on.
	We just have some sort of weird relief going on.
	You wake up and there's still, like, hard-working people in the working class.
	Nothing has changed in that area.
	Nothing's changed at all.
	So, I was like, oh, this is funny.
	Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, wants to do martial law.
	It's pretty funny.
	And then I saw a cross post in this comment section from TheDonald.Win.
	Okay.
	Which is a new social media site.
	Has anyone here heard of it?
	Only five seconds ago.
	I know about the Donald.win.
	That's where, well, because the Donald was the really toxic Reddit, the subreddit on there, where they got banned eventually.
	Another one has cropped up in its place.
	I mean, several have cropped up, I think, in its place on Reddit, but they're not the pure, unfiltered, unleaded, insane Donald Trump Reddit place to post.
	And these guys, I mean, somehow better than Parler, they figured out how to make their own website that people could post on.
	More power to him.
	I mean, hey, you know, keep churning out this content, folks.
	I have to piss really quickly.
	Were you ever a scene-ster, Jesse?
	Do you ever listen to hardcore or scene music or anything like that?
	I've always been like a huge lame pussy.
	Hell yeah, dude.
	You could fool us, that's for sure.
	I've never had any good interests.
	I've always been old.
	No, I never liked anything good either.
	I haven't had anything worth a fuck my whole life.
	That's what's so fucked about it.
	Well, you didn't have much to lose when you became a dad then, in that way.
	No!
	I fucking slid into it like a fucking moccasin.
	Like these right here.
	I slid right into them and I was like, yep, this was it.
	Feels nice.
	Feels comfort.
	Yeah.
	Feels good to give up.
	Yeah.
	Now that I have a girlfriend, though, I do put on more music, like, at the house while I'm doing this, because she'll be over here, and we're hanging out, and it's like, yeah, let's get some tunes.
	Like, maybe we'll dance, you know, to this shit.
	Not really, but like...
	No, but that's some girlfriend shit, you're right.
	It feels like the awkward silence of being in a studio apartment with your with your girlfriend and like we both like the same music so I can just put on a record or she can put on a record and like what we know we'll both enjoy it and like don't have to feel every you know moment of silence or whatever.
	I don't have a girlfriend so I just listen to music to jack off to so I can I can because I have roommates so I thought you were gonna say to get the girlfriend experience you listen to music as if there was a girlfriend there No, our patreon is not doing that good yet.
	I can't get the girlfriend experience Okay, so while I was looking at these responses to this Mike Lindell article on the Epoch Times, which has been trying to like toe the line between supporting the coup and like Being mad that Biden is the legitimate president?
	Like they're trying to somehow weave that, you know, trying to thread that needle there.
	Somebody cross-posted from the Donald.win an amazing post and I'm so glad I found it.
	This is a post that has 1,403 upvotes and the upvote arrow has a silhouette of Donald Trump.
	In it?
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah.
	The fucking rules.
	Not to mention the masthead of this website is like you get on the left side you get a you get half of an eagle's face looking right at you and then the right side of the masthead you get Donald Trump looking right at you and then also in the center there's also Donald Trump looking at you.
	It's a cool masthead.
	Very consistent with the branding on this site.
	I've not been on it myself, but it seems like they knew what they wanted to do and they really attacked it and, you know, they got it done.
	I like the intensity of the banner.
	It's like the eagle eye and Donald's eye and they're both kind of doing like a, like a stare down.
	Um, yeah, I mean, fuck yeah.
	He, he is that, he is that epic.
	He is bald eagle epic.
	Yep.
	This post has also been tagged as hot by TheDonald.Win, so there's that.
	There's also a golden tea icon next to the upvotes, which I guess means it was like, you get so many upvotes, you get the golden tea, maybe it's like FaveStar?
	I don't know.
	It's like Reddit Gold.
	It's TheDonald.Win's version of Reddit Gold.
	That's what it is.
	And it was already reddit gold, and that's like so easy for them to do a one-to-one of.
	I'm almost pissed that it fell into their lap like that.
	That sucks.
	The name of the post, because again, this is like a reddit style forum, so you get like a title of the post and then the content.
	The title reads, Paging Mike Lindell.
	So the MyPillow guy.
	Paging Mike Lindell.
	I will be first in line to trade in my censored iPhone for a patriotic MyPhone on the first day they're available.
	Uh, so.
	There's a billion dollar idea.
	Go ahead and run with that one.
	MyPhone.
	Just like MyPillow, they both start with MyP.
	Oh, yeah.
	I actually didn't, that did not occur to me.
	I thought it was just a play on iPhone, but...
	Damn.
	Maybe they will do it.
	It's a good- it's a- he's got everything going for him.
	I don't know why he doesn't.
	Uh, this was posted- I mean, Soldier Boy has a soldier watch.
	I don't see why he can't just do- do the, uh, the my phone.
	This was posted by a user called BasedInFact.
	Uh, so- Nice, nice.
	So, yeah, when people ask, uh, oh, based, based in what?
	They mean based in fact.
	Or is it like, based in fact?
	It could be either.
	Like stating that it is in fact based.
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	If the cucks and communists at trump.win.mega allowed punctuation in their usernames, we would know.
	Tell them.
	Yes, I know pillows to smartphones is quite an ambitious brand extension, so maybe this could simply be a rebranded version of the forthcoming Gab phone.
	Anything, even a dang flip phone, would be preferable to the depraved duopoly of Apple and Google.
	And I would like to say, just because, you know, trying to up ourselves, trying to big up ourselves here, that we brought Jesse on here to talk about this product pitch, specifically because of YKS and your Kickstarter sucks.
	Yeah.
	Just a fortunate coincidence.
	Jesse, somebody who has Extensive knowledge when it comes to, you know, ideas.
	Product ideas.
	What do you think of the MyPhone?
	Possibly by Mike... What's his name?
	Lindell.
	Lindell.
	Yeah, let me get in my supply chain bag for a minute, gang.
	I think, so I really do think that it is, it's absolutely not crazy that some guy with a little bit of money in cache could slap his name on a phone and put it out to people and it runs like, you know, a re-skinned version of an old Android OS and people buy it.
	I mean, it happens so many times and there are a few independent phone companies that have yet to collapse under the weight of making this product for mass consumption um there is uh and now i'm gonna forget it there's a lot of phones that people like that are like this there was one on kickstarter at one point that was called like the no phone i remember this there there have been so many and then there was i mean there there were several variations on this theme of like
	What if it was something that was the shape of a phone that didn't do anything and even those were like hard to get off the ground?
	It was like it's it's like so many people have this idea.
	What about just a dang phone?
	You can just make phone.
	You know the the jitterbug, but I don't know mass marketed to people who aren't 80 years old or whatever.
	I almost bought one of those recently.
	The Light Phone it's called.
	It just has no internet but you can still play music and text people.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, I mean I've really sat here and thought that I would really like for my kids to be able to get like an iPod Touch or whatever.
	There was a time where the iPod Touch was like a secondary product to the iPhone.
	It just didn't have the cellular radio in it.
	'Cause now they're doing FaceTime with their cousins and their friends and stuff like that.
	I kinda think that would be good.
	So there's tons of ways to start thinking to yourself something you would like, and then making the jump to let's make this a product is always, I mean, sometimes it works out, but most of the time it ends up very funny.
	I think the one problem that Mike Lindell would have with this, because he has knowledge of how to put out a product, even if he is a total maniac, the problem is what he would be doing is taking an existing Chinese phone and rebadging it.
	And his audience is the last audience on earth that would want that to happen, right?
	Like the people who are most sensitive to, you're taking something that already exists in China and selling it to us.
	That's, I feel like that's a really hard sell for the MyPillow guy to make.
	I think on the surface, yeah, but I don't think they pay that close attention to it.
	Yeah, the reality of it's not quite there because, I mean, look at, I mean, all the, no, none of the MAGA hats are made in the States.
	You know, like, none of this bootleg merch is made in the States, you know?
	So they want to pretend like they care about it.
	Our hats aren't surveillance devices either, right?
	But all you have to do is just assemble it in the States and then you're good.
	It would be, I mean, because it is like, their politics is like, you know, these Trump fans, I mean, they're posting on thedonald.win, so their politics, the extent of their politics are either, I like Donald Trump, or I'm a fucking white nationalist fascist who is going to try and draw these people towards my side.
	Like that's, that's like the extent of the people's politics on here.
	So, If they were to see somebody like Mike Lindell, even if he were taking a previously made phone, like a Chinese phone or whatever, and just putting the MAGA stamp on it, like that's, that's their, that's good because it has the MAGA stamp on it.
	It has the MAGA, the Mike Lindell stamp on it.
	Um, what was I going to say here?
	Yeah.
	Like, like Trump just rebranded NAFTA.
	Yeah, that's true, that's true.
	like, you know, said, hey, we're going to redo NAFTA and redid it, you know, in his image.
	And it's still NAFTA.
	It's still fucked up, like, but it's just Trump's NAFTA.
	So it's good.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's true.
	I just, I think of how quickly Mike Pence got turned on and like maybe nearly hanged in That's because he's not Trump.
	That's, that's, that's because he's not Trump.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	But that extends to Mike Lindell too.
	He's definitely not Trump.
	So if, if there's a time where he gets Giuliani'd, uh, which apparently is, he's like not getting paid.
	And he's like, I mean, Giuliani is really like in the situation of when you put the cat outside the room so you can have sex and he's like scratching at the door still kind of.
	Doesn't know you know That is not that I've had sex in a very long time and not that my cat is young enough to want to Get in the room anymore either.
	I mean the cat doesn't care what happens.
	He's past that stage of his life where he wants to witness sex.
	Doesn't matter.
	I'm almost dead, so you do your thing.
	I'll be out here almost dying.
	And that's the same with Rudy as well.
	I think Rudy will eventually just walk away into the woods and die like a beloved animal.
	I do think we'll see something like this from Trump after this.
	Some sort of product launch.
	I don't think that's wrong at all, yeah.
	I think you're not- if Trump were to turn on Mike Lindell in the midst of this product rollout, yeah, it would be dead in the water, for sure.
	Yeah.
	Which, I mean, he was like, yeah, go talk to my lawyers when Mike Lindell brought whatever, quote, evidence of, you know, the Steele slash martial law or whatever.
	It seems like Trump doesn't really give a shit about him anymore.
	I think we're getting close.
	We're getting close to Mike Lindell getting iced, I think.
	Um, it's funny, so I'm perhaps not making a unique observation, but this, like, this completely... I hate to keep using this word, not because, like, it's an inaccurate word, but it's just, you know, I don't want to be like, you know, using this word to be edgy or whatever, but it's like a cucked mindset to be like, I hope this guy releases this product for me!
	Like, it's like, how is this different Than, you know, the like, soy boy meme.
	How is this any different than, oh, I hope they come out with this action figure, or, oh, I hope Apple releases, you know, a new speaker for my house, or whatever.
	It really is.
	I mean, I think it's actually worse, in fact, than any of that stuff because I really do think that even Apple fanboys, there used to be a time where you would call someone who liked Apple products an Apple fanboy.
	That used to be something that you talked about online, whether you liked Apple or Windows.
	And I mean, I feel like the skin falling off my bones when I even talk about that being a real thing because of how old it is.
	I'm a Linux guy.
	I like Linux.
	And knowing what that is makes me also feel very old because nobody cares about that.
	I only know about it because I asked Alex about his penguin tattoo.
	Well, that's for Second Life.
	That's not for... Wait, no, which is the Penguin?
	Which is the Penguin social media app?
	That's not Second Life.
	That's something else.
	No, that's the Linux logo.
	Yeah, I know, but I was doing another joke.
	I was yes-anding you.
	Isn't it, like, called, like, Penguin Club?
	I think it's called Penguin Club.
	Club Penguin.
	It's called Club Penguin, yeah.
	That's what my penguin tattoo is for, and that's the joke.
	But I think even, so if Apple puts out a bad speaker, if Apple puts out the $500 HomePod and all you can listen to on it is Apple Music, I think even the guy who bought it is like, I kinda wanted to listen to Spotify on this.
	Like I think even that guy was like, this sucks. - Yeah. - You know?
	This is weird, huh?
	Why is this happening?
	But I don't think, I think if, yeah, if Trump comes out with something, it is the best thing to these guys There's no way to even critically assert it.
	They're not analyzing it in any way other than, I now have it.
	That's it.
	Yeah, so, hey, paging Mike Lindell.
	I'm gonna do the Pee Wee Herman meme, but on behalf of a weird billionaire, a weird right-wing billionaire.
	Fatty McSatty.
	responds, I guarantee it will be the, so they're quoting, they're doing another pitch here.
	Quote, I guarantee it will be the best night's call with your crazy hoe.
	You will never want another phone again.
	And what is that about?
	It has a feature where like spell check, what it does is it edits your lines to sound, to be better at sexting.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's actually really, really cool.
	I think it's two, sorry go ahead.
	Is Mike Lindell knowing for, is he known for saying stuff about your crazy hoe?
	Like is that one of his lines?
	So I think it's two things.
	It's one of two things, rather.
	This is my opinion.
	I think it's either, like, the ironic, like, grandma-granny rappin' thing.
	Of, like, Mike Lindell, this Christian, who's, like, releasing a phone.
	Like, rappers, they like their cell phones, and, like, this is what they say to their hoes while they're on their cell phones.
	That's one.
	I think that's possibly the more likely one.
	I think this guy's doing a bit.
	I think he thinks that that's funny.
	The second most likely one is the fact that Mike Lindell was addicted to crack for a very long time and that's like part of his story and that's part of like why people like him so much is because he was able to be addicted to crack and like pull himself out of that or whatever.
	Right.
	Maybe it's a reference to even though I don't think the part he wasn't like a pimp.
	He wasn't like running Prostitution while he was doing that I don't know.
	I think it's the former and then based in fact replies maybe But just don't expect that to make it into the commercials present-day Mike Lindell is as wholesome as he is based on Based in what?
	Based in fact.
	I hate that because, you know, smoking crack doesn't make you not wholesome.
	Good point.
	I know plenty of wholesome people who dabble in crack.
	I mean, we just learned about Terrence K. Williams' mom who smoked a lot of crack and was very wholesome in the sense that she totally neglected Terrence.
	Thought he wasn't worthy.
	Yeah, when I was listening to that, I was listening to you guys talk about that.
	I haven't read the book myself, I'm not much of a reader, so I didn't pick that one up, but I was struck by this.
	It's sort of the same thing as Mike Lindell, which was, I'm sure there's some of this that is true, and I guess I don't really care how much of it is true at this point, but I mean, the self-mythologizing and the very obvious reasons for it, I almost make it difficult to take Terrence Williams seriously.
	I don't even know if I can.
	It's whether or not you subscribe to, like, the death of the author theory.
	Right.
	Because if you do subscribe to that, which I do, it doesn't matter whether Terrence is being truthful or not.
	You can just read his story and be inspired by it.
	Doesn't matter whether he's completely full of shit or drawing completely, like, uh, uh, what's, what's the word?
	Like, opposite conclusions from his own experience?
	It doesn't, it doesn't matter whatsoever because you can just be, you can read that and say, oh, this is good.
	This is inspiring to me.
	Yeah.
	Final response to the Mike Lindell My Phone thread, which again had 1,400 upvotes on thedonald.win.
	A lot of people liked this idea.
	And another, oh this guy, Condemned, is also doing a bit.
	Quote, My Pillow Phone.
	Lay down for a conversation.
	Stay for the well-rested night's sleep.
	Put your head on our pillow.
	Yes.
	And I was like, wait, what's this guy's name again?
	Is this guy's name Phil?
	And I was like, no, it's Mike.
	It's not Phil.
	So it's, it's a, it's a portmanteau of phone and pillow, which you don't have to, you don't have to punch up the OP.
	The OP already got it with my phone.
	You don't have to do Phil-o here, but I guess they thought they had something better.
	And the idea is also that it's a combination phone and pillow that you fall asleep on.
	This is one of those comments, and this happens so often, where I read the comment and I can see that they had an idea, but I can also see that they didn't fully grasp the thing that they were replying to.
	And it really does make me wonder, did they even read it?
	They must have, because what are the odds that they would say something like this under a comment they did not read at all?
	And yet, if they had read it and understood it, they wouldn't have made the comment.
	So it's just this fucking bizarre, like, gray area, this negative zone, that I don't under- Why would you- Like, just basically, why would you say this?
	They're trying to hijack.
	They're trying to hijack the OP.
	I don't appreciate this.
	Yeah, this is not about you!
	You're a reply!
	You- You're down the fucking thing!
	I'm up here on top!
	Why are you doing this?
	They don't know their place, that's the fucking problem.
	You know, now that I think about it, because we're talking about it this way, is that last, you know, Crazy Times With Your Ho, is that a Pillow Talk joke?
	Could be.
	Or am I giving them just way too much credit?
	I think maybe you're giving them too much credit, but I like that aspect of it.
	Can you send me the link to this so I can throw that comment down?
	Yes.
	Yes, I will.
	Okay, thanks.
	Thanks.
	Yeah, is this still fresh?
	Are you still gonna get some upvotes and maybe some Trump gold, do you think?
	I mean, with a comment like that, I think there's no... Yeah, I have to.
	I'm gonna pop off on the... My Donald.
	The OP, based in fact, responds, yes, a phone and a pillow.
	You are a product development genius.
	For the number of times I have kept reading TDW way past reasonable bedtime, dot dot dot, I need this!
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I need my pillow!
	I need my phone pillow!
	Because I read the Donald dot win while falling asleep way past my bedtime.
	That's so cool to just, I mean, basically just to say you have a bedtime period is cool.
	And this guy, and like I said, I don't know, I've heard the pillows aren't even that good to begin with, so I don't even know if I want this guy.
	Maybe it's true we do need a phone and pillow, but are we even sure this is the guy we want doing it?
	I don't, I don't think so.
	Honestly, I would, I would, I want to see what Apple has to say about this.
	I want to see, I want an iPillow.
	Oh my god, how much would that cost?
	Oh my lord.
	Oh fuck.
	I mean, if it has Bluetooth capabilities and it goes over your head, it's gonna be about $500.
	Well, we know it won't have a damn headphone jack, that's for sure.
	Jesus Christ.
	I just got a new iPhone.
	They don't even try to send you headphones anymore.
	That's right.
	And I love that they, I have the cable.
	The cable now has a different USB port, but the little nubbin that goes in the wall?
	They don't give you that either.
	Right.
	Oh, here we go.
	I don't even know where the fuck to get that.
	The big nubbin rant.
	I don't know where to get that one.
	So I just have a cable that I can't plug in.
	And why don't they make coffee-flavored coffee anymore?
	I went to pee.
	Did you guys already talk about how this guy wants to be able to read the screen from his phone pillow?
	No, no, that is incredible.
	That's a very strange aspect.
	That's kind of what you were talking about, Jesse.
	He falls asleep while reading TheDonald.Win.
	He wants to keep winning until he drifts off into slumberland.
	So he wants to, like, stare at the pillow.
	Like, maybe he's doing a plank over his pillow while reading.
	And then once he finally falls asleep, he can just collapse onto TheDonald.Win.
	See, we're talking all this shit, but it's actually a genius design.
	The screen is actually on the interior back end of the pillow.
	So you put your face in the pillow, and you look through it, and it's all clear stuffing, it's all clear panels, but it's still soft, and you can see the screen.
	You just can't breathe, is the problem.
	Yeah.
	But that's how you do it.
	Well, you get the nasal strips, the breathe right strips, like I did.
	And then you're good to go.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Jesse, thank you so much for doing the show.
	It was a blast.
	Yeah, of course.
	Why don't you go ahead and plug what you gotta plug.
	Well, you alluded to it.
	We do Your Kickstarter Sucks, a fun podcast with myself, my friend Mike Hale.
	We go on there and have been doing that for a long fucking time and talk about all this bad, nasty shit.
	Coming up, actually, in February, we've got our celebration of Garbage Jesse content.
	It's called Jessuary.
	We're going to be watching some of my favorite films.
	Last year we did, let's see, Pacific Rim and Van Helsing.
	Just truly the type of shit that I would describe as the stuff that's on in the barbershop when I go in there.
	They're my kind of movies.
	I love to sit down and tune out.
	But we have a sincere appreciation for them.
	The Go-Off Kings gaming stream is very fun.
	Monday through Thursday we go on there.
	And we're on there playing games and goofing off, which is great on Twitch.
	And then we've got Mike and myself and our friend Chris James.
	We have a show on Stitcher Premium called Good morning, good morning, and we're, uh, we're radio hosts and, uh, well, I gotta tell you, it's more goofing off.
	So, uh, that's what we've been working on, uh, lately over there.
	So, but, uh, thank you for having me.
	This was, uh, this was fun.
	Not having a Facebook, it was cool to be exposed to this for a very short period of time and then now never to be exposed, uh, to it ever again on a firsthand basis.
	It was great having you.
	I highly recommend your Kickstarter Sucks.
	Anybody who enjoys Minion Death Cult will, I'm sure, enjoy your Kickstarter Sucks.
	It is like the version of Minion Death Cult that delves into late-stage capitalism, specifically.
	I love that show, and once again, thank you for coming on.
	I will tell you real quick, the sting of hearing your inventions get shit on by you guys, it wears off after about the seventh time when I hear a product I've had in my head forever just get destroyed.
	But it's worth it, it's good.
	It's been humbling.
	Do you guys also get the feedback that people like falling asleep to your show?
	Because I feel like the vibe is very similar of two guys sort of like calmly Like low talking at you basically.
	So I think that if people are falling asleep to this, they gotta fall asleep to YKS.
	You didn't do that many good reads today, Alex.
	There was no all-caps reads.
	When that happens, I don't think people want to fall asleep to that.
	I think that's the issue with Minion Death Cult.
	So, ButtFest 2000 wrapped this week with Murder Brian from Street Fight.
	By the way, Happy Brian's Day to Murder Brian.
	We're also happy for him.
	Tune in to Street Fight, the call-in show this week.
	You might hear a familiar voice.
	And subscribe to the Street Fight Radio Patreon.
	That is patreon.com slash streetfightradio For the ButtFest 2000 mini-series that is, I don't, I'm not counting, like it's like five or six deep dives into decades of butt rock.
	We started, in a general sense, and Brian started off strong.
	He brought up a band that I know a lot about.
	He said they were, he thought they were butt rock, and I was like, holy shit, they are butt rock.
	Here's everything about this band possible.
	Very interesting.
	We just ended that series with the wrap-up this week.
	I had to do some housekeeping with some Stained talk, some Aaron Lewis talk, some Kid Rock talk.
	Some failure talk that's got a few people's ears perked up right there.
	Very interesting episode, very fun miniseries.
	Anybody who is a fan of That Awful Sound will absolutely Love that miniseries and uh yeah it's a good it's it's a good Patreon.
	Support it anyway.
	They do miniseries on shock jocks, televangelists and uh the next miniseries is going to be on uh you know masculine self-help gurus which I am very uh excited to listen to.
	Awesome.
	And you can support this show, Minion Death Cult, at patreon.com slash MinionDeathCult, P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash MinionDeathCult for three bucks a month.
	We give you a bonus episode every single week.
	Thank you to everybody who subscribes and supports the show.
	And I think that's it, right Tony?
	Real quick, I was on a podcast, I think it comes out tomorrow.
	I had the pleasure of joining Virgil Texas and Brianna Greyjoy on the Bad Faith Podcast and it was a great episode.
	That's right.
	I had a really good discussion.
	I think it comes out early this week.
	Definitely check that out.
	It was me and Taren from Chillbillies on a panel.
	And then some really smart guy whose name I don't remember.
	I think he was Mark.
	Have you heard of these folks?
	Have you heard of these folks?
	Bad Faith?
	Trillbillies?
	Good stuff.
	Bad Faith Podcast.
	It's all good stuff.
	It's all good stuff.
	It was an awesome episode.
	Definitely check it out.
	I mean, at least that episode.
	You can stop after that.
	Alright, thanks folks.
	Bye.
	Peace.
	Peace.
	Thank you.
	Peace.
	I took a turn, set my head on straight.
	It took a while for me to realize that I was blind.
	It's getting late, I think I should start over.
	It's getting late, but I'm still here.

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