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There's something really stupid about the power of the mind.
Yeah?
I've been getting this wine forever from Trader Joe's and I really like it a lot.
I've always liked it, but I finally was like, oh let me run into that Vivino app I was telling Jamie about.
And I did, and it has a much higher score than I thought.
And um, it like tastes better now in my mind.
Like I already liked it, but I was like, damn this is good.
This is really very good.
It's so funny.
Whenever I, whenever I get into arguments with people and Joe Rogan, like they literally, you know, the meme is like, tell me why you're supporting Joe Biden without mentioning Trump.
Like that's kind of the meme on the right wing.
And it's like, yeah, fair enough.
Your guy is like so disgusting.
Just like viscerally unappealing to people that they're willing to vote for another viscerally unappealing old man.
Like I guess, yeah, the joke's on the Democrats for sure there.
But honestly, like anytime I get into a conversation with people in the Joe Rogan Experience Facebook group, Uh, it's just, it's so wonderful.
Like, this dude, he posted the meme.
It's a meme we've seen a lot.
It's, uh... How to make someone who has Trump Derangement Syndrome lose their mind!
And then it's like a grid that shows, you know, various portraits, various photographs, like close-ups of their faces.
And it's Trump above 2016, Trump again for 2020, Ivanka 2024, Ivanka 2028.
I don't know which one is which.
I think it's Don Jr.
Ivanka 2028.
I don't know which one is which.
I think it's Don Jr.
Who's the brown haired one?
I don't know.
2032 is that guy, 2036 is that guy again, 2040 is Eric Trump, 2044 is Eric again, and then Barron is 2048 and 2052.
So the revolution is 2048.
I hate that one, yeah.
2040 is Eric Trump.
2044 is Eric again.
And then Barron is 2048 and 2052.
So the revolution is 2048.
That's right.
When the Kizwats Hatterack ascends to godhood.
ha ha ha Brings the jihad roiling across the galaxy.
No, it's just funny to be like, yeah, you liberals are so deranged.
Here's what I like.
It's a divine hereditary rule from a- Which is wild.
A blonde syphilitic millionaire.
Billionaire.
That's what I want.
That's what I want.
And I just, you know, I commented like, yeah man, uh, anything, any like cringeworthy thing the liberals are doing, like I guess crying on TikTok or whatever, like pales in comparison to like laying, laying this, laying your innermost thoughts bare about a Donald Trump, uh, you know, fiefdom.
A Donald Trump familial dynasty.
That shit is 1,000 times more corny than crying because Trump is president or whatever.
Like you said, getting a fucking caution road sign that lights up to read things, there are three of which within 500 feet of my house.
Like, that's also extreme.
That's extremely cringe.
Yeah.
So to clarify what you're talking about, you're talking about like the flashing road signs.
That's like a grit, like a light bright, like a, like an industrial light bright that you can spell out shit with.
And it says the Republic of the city that Tony lives in, uh, supports Donald Trump.
And somebody just has it on their property, meaning that they're like a construction.
They're, they're like a contractor, you know?
Yeah, they have access to this.
They're a boss of some kind.
Yeah.
And it's just like, you know what?
I don't feel bad about voting for Biden.
That's what I'm doing.
I'm voting for Biden to get the Cheeto out of the White House.
I don't feel bad about voting for Biden because I think that guy's still going to be okay.
Yeah, you know.
That guy's gonna be fine at the end of the day.
If it was like Bernie Sanders or whatever or like, you know, Ilhan Omar in the ideal world, you know, I was voting, I would be like, oh man, that guy's gonna... That guy's life's gonna change.
Yeah, he's gonna get sent to like re-education, stripped of all his wealth, have to actually work.
Man, I feel bad now.
I don't know if I can even vote for the left project.
Yeah, it's wild to think about how expensive that is, and like you said, they'll be fine.
Those people do make, the people who I'm talking about, they do make over $400,000 a year.
They own a huge chunk of property, and the other one has two of those signs.
I didn't realize there was two of them.
The one that says Law and Order, Trump 2020.
There's one on each side of the property so you can see it no matter which way on the street you're going.
And the other one, it's funny, one says Trump 2020, the other one says Trump Pence.
And it's like, oh, I like that they made that choice to do one and the other.
Maybe re-reminding the evangelical base that's very strong in Southern California.
That one is the one that you would see on the way from the church.
But yeah, I just, you know, I commented like, you know, people were trying to talk shit to me very embarrassingly.
Didn't get any really real good digs in.
And I was just like, yeah, triggering the libs, almost as good as having like functional public health, or functional healthcare, or like functioning public services.
And then the dude was like, as if Democrats would do that!
And I was like, who said anything about Democrats?
What are you talking about?
They're still doing that.
Democrats and Republicans are both parties of capital, bub.
And he was like, oh, I agree with that.
Luckily, Trump is not a Republican or a Democrat.
He is a pragmatic populist with one motivation, make America great again.
And I was like, Trump is a billionaire.
You think he made that much money caring about other people?
Yeah.
And he was like, he was in the private sector.
How did the Biden family get so rich being, quote, public servants?
First of all, I don't think the Biden family is that rich.
I don't think they're nearly as rich as Donald Trump claims to be.
Which is hilarious, considering what a fucking slavish devotee Joe Biden was to the financial industry in Delaware, the credit card industry.
It's very funny that he's not as rich as Donald Trump.
But again, you keep mentioning Democrats.
I don't care about Democrats, dude.
And it's just all the way down.
I don't know.
They don't get that there is this other option that we're totally all about.
That is not the Democrats.
Why don't they understand that?
Why is it so hard?
Even to have this conversation, the conversation that we're having right now, to most people, would sound like we're talking about voting third party.
Which is not what we're talking about.
Yeah, so I just there's no like framework, you know, and and this guy's like a moron this guy's like You know the globalists the leftists they want to they want to destroy America and destroy humanity yada yada yada It's like it probably a lost cause at this point Yeah, you're not gonna change that person's mind.
Anyway, should we start the show?
We should start the show.
You talked about your policies toward misinformation, and that you will block misinformation if it's against civic integrity, election interference, or voter suppression.
Let me give you a tweet that was put up on Twitter.
It says, Senator Ron Johnson is my neighbor and strangled our dog, Buttons, right in front of my 4-year-old son and 3-year-old daughter.
The police refuse to investigate.
This is a complete lie, but important to retweet and note that there are more lies to come.
Now, we contacted Twitter, and we basically take it down, and here's the response.
Thanks for reaching out.
The SBA is to our support team for a review, and they have determined that this is not a violation of all policies.
So, it's a dropsy.
- How could it be a complete lie?
It's a lie.
But how does that not affect civic integrity?
How could you say that now it's being collection of trains in one place that could definitely impact my ability to get real life?
How could that not be a violation of forced oppression?
Obviously, if people think I'm straight, we might keep a stone on them.
They may not show up at the polls, and that would be forced oppression.
See, I didn't want to take that.
By the way, that tweet was retweeted like something 17,000 times.
At least my opponent loved commenting, you know, appreciated by over 50,000 people.
How is that not forced oppression?
I also appreciated that tweet.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
How had I not heard that?
That's Senator Ron Johnson once again stealing my bit of reading posts on the air.
Reading comments.
I mean, hey, you know, don't quit your day job, buddy.
Why don't you get back to doing senatorial shit, alright?
Leave the dictations, leave the readings to the pros.
Hey, do the equivalent of dribble the ball, okay?
Yeah, shut up and dance, monkey.
So, what's up everybody?
I'm Alexander Edward.
I'm Tony Boswell.
And we are Minion Death Cult.
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Hypothermia is responsible.
We're documenting.
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There's a few new of you.
That's the way to say that, I think.
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We appreciate you.
We welcome you.
Stacked show today.
It's funny because, like, I think we kind of vacillate on this show between doing current event stuff and doing just like random fun posts, you know?
And this is all like current event stuff on this episode, but it's all like pretty wild, right?
It's all... Yeah, it's also a real good time.
It's also, you know, random wild stuff that is current.
Like, this is the news.
We're relaying the news to you, but I think it's fun news.
You know, we don't have to do much work today.
We can just read the articles, and that's funny enough.
That's true, okay.
Which is convenient.
I mean, you shouldn't have said that part out loud.
There's usually a whole section before we start recording where we talk about how we're going to do as little work as possible.
You know, what corners we're gonna cut.
How we're going to trick the subscriber into thinking they're getting their money's worth.
So, imagine... Sorry about that.
Imagine you didn't hear what Tony just said.
That's what Patreon's for.
You get a little behind the scenes in kayfabe.
You get a little behind kayfabe.
You'll get exclusive access to why this show is so shitty.
Yeah.
First stop of the night, we have here an amazing story out of Flatbush, New York.
I'm reading from Twitter here.
NYPD officers in Flatbush were allegedly saying Trump 2020 over and over again on their patrol car's speaker tonight.
They stopped when someone started filming, but couldn't resist one more.
In violation of the NYPD's policy against endorsing candidates on duty.
And I'm gonna play the audio for you here.
What, you can't say Trump 2020 now?
Fucking pussy!
Say it again!
Trump 2020.
Go fuck yourself, you fucking zappist!
It's funny!
Like, I will give the cop that.
That it's funny when he said it that time.
If you watch this and get mad, I need you to sit down and watch Super Troopers at Police Academy with a straight face.
All of them.
I can't break it all.
This is funny.
Did you just say, uh, meow, I'm gonna go vote for Trump?
Go vote, meow.
Meow and go vote.
I don't know what led up to this.
Allegedly, according to this tweet, and according to the subsequent reporting, the guy in the cop car, the guy in the NYPD SUV, it's probably like a Ford Explorer thing, you know?
Yeah, more than likely.
He was just saying it over and over, Trump 2020, and then couldn't resist, once people were filming, saying it again.
And I kind of identify with him.
I kind of identify with him in solely this respect.
Not about being a police officer, not about being a Trump supporter, but just like...
Being on camera and, like, having that instinct.
Having that, like, comedic instinct that overrides, like, all sense, all logic, all, like, self-preservation instinct you might have.
The only way he could have topped it is if he could have, like, farted while he sat in and got all the audio in the mic.
Yeah, um, so there's, I think, another video that, from a different angle, from a different person, um... I like this video more.
Yeah, this is it right here.
Trump 2020.
Trump 2020.
Put it on YouTube.
Put it on Facebook.
Right here.
Yo, yo, yo, take a picture.
Take a video.
Put it on Facebook.
Put it on YouTube.
Put it on Facebook.
Put it on YouTube.
Those are the two you're gonna pick?
You think that's the one this guy's gonna go to?
Put it on YouTube.
Put it on Facebook.
So this guy was just like parked in Flatbush.
Parked in like a crosswalk.
The video shows.
It's a place cops like to park.
Cops like to kind of park wherever they want.
Like they do shit that like I wouldn't even do as a UPS driver.
They park in places where even I'm like, that's fucked up, dude.
You think they park in crazy places?
I've seen them drive places that are nuts.
Just like, through crowds.
I park in ambulance zones.
And I still see cops' behavior behind the wheel that takes my breath away.
Do you tell people that you just have a heart in the- in the- I- I'm delivering a heart.
Actually.
I got a- No.
I got an organ.
Nobody- nobody questions- It's in your lunch cooler.
Nobody questions the UPS guy.
Alright?
Goddamn right.
Goddamn right.
If anybody's interested in like- UPS when it's good to be brown.
That's right.
If anybody's interested in like getting behind the glass at a bank, just uh, you know, look for a UPS uniform on eBay or whatever.
But you can't find them, you know, because like you can't you can't do that.
You can't.
Because the thing is, if you could do that, then I would have UPS socks by now.
OK, well, OK.
So if you're looking to get behind the glass, I know it's a crime.
Hit me up.
Five hundred bucks.
Buy it now?
Buy it now?
No bidding?
No.
$500 deposit and then we need like a 5% of the take.
I don't want to talk to anybody after they've robbed a bank.
I'll just take a cool $500.
Are we stopping the podcast then?
Can we not do this anymore?
I mean, I was unaware.
I was unaware of Anthony Boswell's previous activity.
I had nothing to do with it.
All the FBI agents subscribing to the show know that I am completely innocent.
Alexander Edward, innocent.
They know that I can say it all I want, and I will never be proven guilty of robbing the Acme Bank.
Acme Bank?
Is that a real one?
That's the one that I robbed.
Okay.
It sounds like a fake one.
No.
It was me, my boy, Matt Damon.
We had many Coopers.
No.
Yeah, we had many Coopers.
We got it done.
So you did...
Did you do the remake of the heist movie?
What is that shit called?
Nevermind.
Oh, it's called The Italian Job, and every job I do is an Italian job, so yes.
So this guy, this NYPD officer got suspended for saying Trump 2020.
Suspended without pay, by the way.
That's incredible.
Very interesting.
That's so bananas.
This dude was literally better off murdering somebody.
Totally.
In the middle of the street.
Well, than doing what he did.
Right.
Okay.
Because when somebody like just shoots an unarmed person or whatever, and there's any investigation, because that's, you can't just shoot an unarmed person and get paid leave.
Like there has to actually be like an investigation for you to even get paid leave.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
There has to be like a Twitter video for you to get paid leave.
Like otherwise you're just still working.
Uh, yeah.
You're just clocking in still.
It's very funny that, yeah.
Uh, this dude, all he did was say Trump 2020 over the loud speaker.
And it's like his union already endorsed Trump.
Like the New York Police Department, whatever, the Police Benevolent Association or whatever, pretty sure they endorse Trump.
Yeah.
And it's very funny that this is what gets a cop Non-paid leave unpaid leave and That's not to say that this guy's gonna get fired.
He's definitely not gonna fucking get fired it's just gonna be like a month till people forget about this shit till three more cops shoot unarmed people in New York City and And they forget about the Trump 2020 guy and he'll just start working again.
That's all it's gonna be.
But it's... It's funny when you think about it at first.
You're like, oh wow, cool.
You can get more punishment for saying something over a loudspeaker than you can for actually shooting an unarmed black dude.
But when you think about it, it makes sense because their job...
is to shoot unarmed black people.
Like, their job is to, like, shoot poor people, right?
Yeah.
That's, like, the important part of their job.
That's, like, the part of their job that they need to never be challenged.
No, that's just quality control, as they call it.
Right?
They need that to be normalized.
That needs to be a normal part of the job, okay?
Yeah.
This guy saying Trump 2020 over the loudspeaker, like, breaks whatever kayfabe they're trying to do about, like, you know, the, uh...
What is the word?
The non-political act of policing.
Right?
What's the phrase?
The unbiased... The unbiased, yeah.
The unbiased role of a police officer.
And...
I don't know, like when a cop shoots an unarmed person or even shoots a person with like a knife on them or a gun on them that wasn't like shooting at them or whatever like because of the country we live in because of the political makeup of this country like even centrist liberals are like well let's wait till we get all the facts you know the police are important you know if his life was in danger or he felt his life was in danger he made a mistake or whatever like
The centrist liberal, the centrist like neoliberal will 100% have more of a problem with a cop saying Trump 2020 over a loudspeaker than they will a cop killing somebody on the job or whatever.
I mean, to the point where I literally saw people in my little area posting about this NYPD, as far away as you can get in the same country, cops saying this, and not posting shit about the person who was murdered a week ago tomorrow, that recent, a week ago tomorrow, in San Reno, miles away from where they live.
So yeah, it's not just like you said, you're not being hyperbolic.
This is very real.
And it's really because the case of Mark Bender Jr.
doesn't have enough support on the internet yet.
Well, and it breaks the story we're telling.
It cracks the story in half.
Everything that we're telling ourselves about policing and about the The selfless role that police play in maintaining law and order, which sounds like a right-wing thing to say, it sounds like a far-right thing to say, but that's kind of a thing that normal people believe.
Very normal people.
Normal people believe there's a problem with policing, 100%, but they don't believe that that problem is foundational to the institution of policing.
Every but every every person that says well, how are you gonna live without police?
Believes that you know what I'm saying?
Even the people who even the people who are like we need accountability We need to fire like like we need to fire murdering cops like even people who are outside marching for Black Lives Matter Do not think that there's like a foundational racist, a foundational classist role that the police play.
Like that's that's a step beyond.
So for a cop to come out and say yeah Trump 2020 and I know that this is a threat to you.
I know that by saying just by saying Trump 2020 that is like That is a shot across the bow.
That's something that's going to trigger you or that's something that's going to be like a sign of contempt.
I am saying this as a sign of contempt for you, the person that I am supposed to be, you know, quote, protecting and serving or whatever.
Aside from like the racial connotations of just like supporting Trump in a black neighborhood or whatever, aside from all that, This person, this cop, is like laying bare the fact that he doesn't give a fuck about the public.
In like a larger sense.
The specific sense is like, yeah this dude is a fucking racist and he's saying this to like trigger the black and brown people and poor people in this neighborhood or whatever.
but the larger sense is like this guy has contempt for the people he's supposed to be protecting and serving that's the larger sense and that's what breaks this like uh you know noble idea the idea of the noble police officer and that's what can't stand like the the institution of the the police force can't Maintain.
It can't like continue if it becomes obvious that they actually like hate all of us.
Yeah, it's everybody that says, like, well, I mean, really?
Do we need to abolish?
Because I get every day, I get somebody in my DMs asking me, what exactly do you mean by abolish?
Even though I very clearly say all the time what I mean by abolish, they still don't understand.
And when you say it very clearly, you mean, we need to cut 10% out of their budget.
Yes, we need to make it so they don't have as many rounds.
That is non-negotiable.
They can only carry one clip.
They can only carry one extra clip on them and that's it.
Um, and I know I tell them, I say, no, no, we need the wall for cops.
And then, you know, you just, you just say to them, like, you know, we can't build, we can't have policing built on this really terribly corrupt, uh, foundation.
It's fucking wrong, man.
We got it.
We got to get rid of the whole thing.
Yeah.
We got to start fresh.
And then they finally kind of get it.
But most times they're like, I don't know.
I don't know.
The laws are still good.
The laws are still good laws.
Wrong.
I was like, no, no they're not.
Wrong.
Dumbass.
Super bad.
Yeah, listen, dumbass.
Laws suck.
Laws are bad, dude.
God, if there were better laws, you wouldn't be such a fucking idiot, you goddamn idiot.
Did you see, like, so Pittsburgh obviously popping off right now.
Yes.
Pittsburgh is fucking shit up right now, rightfully so.
Did you see the... I've only read a little bit here and there about... I don't know the name of the victim off the top of my head.
Dude was having a uh according to reporting a bipolar episode uh and and he uh he had a knife or something on him and the cops showed up and obviously like fucking escalated the situation instantly um yeah and uh then shot him when he was like you know uh walking around and walking at them um Their fucking excuse.
People are like, why didn't, why didn't they use tasers?
Why didn't they use to, like, my question is why were they there in the first place?
Like, I mean, I guess somebody probably called the cops, but it's like, maybe hindsight's 20, 20, but it's like a mental, you know, a mental health issue.
It's not a, like, did he attack anyone else?
Not that I know of either.
I think his mom was there the whole time and like... It's kind of telling to me that like the only people he quote like went at are the cops.
Like if this was really a threat to like the neighborhood or whatever why were like...
Why were the cops the only one he went after or whatever?
Anyway, people were like, why didn't they tase him?
Why didn't they tase him?
Which I'm sorry, like that's still the fucking wrong way to think about this.
Absolutely.
The response is, oh, we don't have enough tasers for the officers because we were underfunded.
And the Pittsburgh PD were underfunded.
Like not every officer has a taser in those two.
And it's like, well-meaning people.
You know, I'm gonna be charitable here.
Well-meaning people, liberals, who, you know, want a kindly old man back in the presidency, they're gonna be like, well, we need to get them funding so that they can get tasers, you know?
And it's bullshit that tasers got cut before vests got cut.
Sure, or like tanks, whatever fucking armored vehicles they have.
Whatever artillery they have.
If the citizens are the priority, if we the people are the priority, if they're supposed to protect and serve us, that should be on the very bottom of the pile.
Um, I agree.
Uh, like tweets from this, I'm not going to read the whole story, right?
We don't, we don't need to.
We've, we've, we've talked about it.
Um, but there are like tweets, uh, from the NYPD news, uh, Twitter.
It says, we are aware of this video and is under investigation by our Brooklyn South investigation unit.
Police officers must remain apolitical.
I'm just imagining like a robocop type person shooting like an unarmed poor person saying, I am a political citizen.
I am an apolitical entity.
I am a centrist.
I vote Republican in one election and then Democrat in the other election.
The only factor in this is the fact that you broke a law.
That's it.
That's all.
This is not political!
You're like shooting someone repeatedly in the back.
I love that the person who drafted and wrote and published this probably owns an I Can Breathe shirt.
Right?
They absolutely do.
What I think is if we want police officers to not be political, we should start treating them like felons and not allowing them to vote.
I think that's a good idea.
That actually is a good idea.
If you want to, like, turn somebody into a felon and strip their right to vote, like, you should have to also forfeit your right to vote.
And they're still getting a better end of the deal, because think about how many people, like, each cop arrests.
You know, like, one cop is putting away several people a year, at least, you know.
Oh man, are cops the men in the abortion story?
Cops can make all these babies via arrest, but felons can only get arrested once every so often they go away.
Yeah, I think that's right.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think cops would agree with you that they're the men.
I think that we need to run with this analogy to get feminists on board with the abolition of police.
Right, vasectomies are so much easier than tying your tubes.
Exactly.
A vasectomy is disarming.
We have to vasectomy the police.
Just snip the police, dude.
Gotta castrate the police.
Another tweet from NYPD News.
Suspended without pay.
The police officer who is under investigation using department vehicles loudspeaker for political purposes has been suspended effective immediately.
That guy's getting his job back!
Who are you fucking kidding?
He's getting his job back and someone started to go fund me for him.
Like no doubt.
He's going to make more money chilling.
Also, when you get non-paid leave, you still get to go extort people.
Alright, I don't want to- That's still allowed.
I don't want to spend too much more time on this, but yeah, like, Commissioner Shea, I don't know, he's the commissioner for the NYPD, tweeted, 100% unacceptable.
Period.
Period.
He put a little T at the end of it.
Law enforcement must remain apolitical.
It is essential in our role to serve all New Yorkers regardless of any political beliefs.
Like, it's funny that you're saying this because nobody believes that cops aren't far-right bastards.
Yeah!
Like, even the granola cop, even like liberals, the liberal that I'm talking about who like, you know, is at a protest and still shakes hands with the police who are like blocking off the street or whatever, even that liberal knows that the cops are probably all mostly right-wing, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
How does... I don't... How does this make sense to them?
How does this tweet, like, oh they have to say that they're apolitical even though I know that they're all far-right maniacs?
Yeah.
Like, it's... They... They go home in cars that have Trump stickers and flags hanging off of them.
Um, so let's get into comments here.
So this is from the Epoch Times.
Um, top three comments are like instant bangers.
Yeah, heat rocks.
Just like, like- Big numbers too.
Big numbers, like crazy Minion Death Cult shit that I didn't, did not expect off this article.
So remember the article is like, the cop, the headline from this is a cop was suspended for saying MAGA 2020 over his fucking, you know, loudspeaker.
Top comment.
Hard to stop the voices.
Americans are rising up against cancel culture.
Attacks on speech, faith, and law enforcement.
Trump 2020!
Yeah, you know, this is really a capsule of the time.
This is a time capsule of the oppression we face right now is this.
This comment is going to be worn on t-shirts 20 years from now.
Uh, I just love this.
Like, everyday Americans, you know, uh, bakers, shopkeepers, fishmongers, and also the police are rising up against cancel culture.
Too many police have been canceled.
Too many police have said that, hey, uh, Ace Ventura isn't problematic at all.
And then they get canceled on Twitter.
Enough is enough, they've said.
Just because he read your Miranda rights with his butt does not mean he does not need to throw his whole life away.
People are such fucking babies.
This man is an unabashed Bill Burr fan.
And yes, he is a cop.
And he refuses to submit to your ivory tower coastal elite sensibilities.
And again, he's just like beating the shit out of a homeless person.
It's a picture of a cop punching a homeless person because he's wearing like a women be shopping shirt.
And like that's the issue?
Yeah, dude.
He's like, he's like, yeah, every night I go home, uh, and you know, this job's like, this job's like really hard.
It's a lot of stress on me.
Uh, and every time I go home and, uh, I beat my wife and People are like, actually that's low-key kinda yikes dawg.
To quote Borat, like that.
You shouldn't be doing accents at all, bruh.
Listen American white man, don't do accents, bruh.
That's not cool.
And they're sick of being cancelled!
It's like, you know, I go home and I hit her.
Who are you talking about?
Everyone's cool.
Who are you talking about?
My wife.
And everyone's like, oh shit!
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
Wow.
Unsubscribe.
Unsubscribe.
Then he's like, oh, did I do that?
and they're like, yeah, that's also kind of like blackface a little bit.
Oh, now if you need that.
I need Steve Urkel Black Cop.
I need that so I can enjoy it without it being completely racist.
Did Steve ever do a ride-along with Carl?
That has to have happened.
That has to be an episode.
That's got to be the best episode of Family Matters.
And the whole point of it is going to be like, don't do crack, don't do crack.
I think there's a handful of episodes about Eddie and Carl and the intersection of his job.
I remember at least two.
But I want to see Steve go on a ride along and think, yeah, who are we getting tonight?
Some, uh, some, some, some, uh, bank robbers, you know?
And he's like, actually, we're just going around and, uh, uh, destroying the belongings of homeless people.
Just to hold this show and the people involved accountable, I do need you guys to know that Alex is doing body language that is so on point, I'm kind of offended.
But the thing about those episodes, they always ended with Carl being like, work on that jump shot.
You need an option B, Eddie.
Isn't it kind of fucked- so this is like, maybe this is like, uh, just personal to me.
Maybe I'm like, extrapolating to the universal.
But like, the two, like, the two black shows that I watched- well, okay, I also watched Living Single.
I don't think this- I don't think that qualifies.
Uh, but like, Fresh- I feel like that's gonna be the blackest show you're gonna say right now.
No, no, man.
Family Matters and Fresh Prince.
I watched a shit ton of growing up.
And both of those had like, like patriarchal figures in the fucking system.
Like Uncle Phil was a fucking judge.
Carl Winslow, a cop.
Yep.
Yep.
That's kind of weird.
I never thought about that before.
Unfortunately, it's not weird.
Every black person on TV ever is a good black person.
Even the show Black-ish is about an upper middle class black family.
But did they have any class trader jobs?
He was in the entertainment business.
Well, so Living Single was kind of like that.
They were like, you know, like borderline yuppies in Living Single, but they weren't like class traitors, I don't think.
No, the thing about TV is, like, niggas ain't been broke on TV since, like, the Jeffersons.
And that's only the intro.
You know, like, that, and like, even, even, like, even, like, uh, Even like the Jamie Foxx show, part of that show is that like, it's a, it's like a, I think it's a, I think the hotel owners are black.
So even though he's not rich, like that's the whole thing about, about, you know, if you're going to be on TV and be represented, you got to have a good job.
What was up with, uh, make mad money.
What was up with boondocks?
Like, They weren't well off, but didn't they live in like an okay neighborhood?
What was the situation there?
Well, a lot of it was that they were a cartoon.
I think they had a bigger house.
They had a two-story house.
I think they were like struggling, but like I think they were more affected by the recession than anything else.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But I don't think... Grandpa didn't make money, he was on social security or something.
He had a business, he had the restaurant or something that he did for a little bit, but other than that...
Well, you don't have to really address that in like a... I feel like they addressed that.
I feel like it was a conceit of the show that they lived in a nice neighborhood for some, like, weird reason.
Like they lived around... That makes, like, inheritance type thing?
Yeah, they, like, lived around white people for some reason.
Um... I think white people came to their, like, historical neighborhood.
I think that's what it was.
I think white people came to the historically black neighborhood, but I haven't watched that in a very long time.
Okay.
Yeah, hard to stop the voices.
Americans are rising up.
I'm so happy everyday Americans like the police are rising up.
Like the cops.
Yeah.
The cops run everybody.
The cops can pull over politicians.
The cops have more political power than anyone.
Than even like a fucking senator.
Yeah, I mean I'm saying a cop can pull over and like plant evidence on a senator It happens That's great that I've that's that's a realization.
I'm having right now the cops have more like political power Social power than like Anyone except for like the CIA or the FBI or the actual president.
It's only more like specific cops.
Or like, I guess, a millionaire or a billionaire could probably get out of whatever a cop tries to throw at them.
Also the Pope.
Also the Pope, but I mean the Pope's like a millionaire.
He has his own cops too.
He has his own city.
He has his own, like, whole fuckin' country, I think.
Isn't the Vatican, like, a country?
Yeah.
Yeah, and they have their own cops, and they have, like, a special type of martial arts they learn, and they have, like, a special knife and gun.
I'm not... I'm not kidding.
What?!
The Vatican cops have a special martial arts?
Yeah.
So it's like the Christian version of Krav Maga?
I think that's exactly what it is.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is.
I think they were seriously just like Krav Maga but we're gonna eat pork still.
Krav Maga but we can also do like far away violence.
So not just like close up combat.
It's Krav Maga, but with the power of Jesus Christ.
So that was the top comment.
247 upvotes.
The first response, the top response to that comment is from Landon Perote, who says, The poison in the Big Apple is provided by the far-left lunatics.
The Soup Nazis are for real!
Oh my gosh.
Where's it say in black and white, police can't voice their politics?
Sue the bastards!
I mean, apparently it says it several places in black and white.
Because that's the only reason they enforce this, because this is something that has been written down a few times.
Once again, this is like something that, uh, the actual powers that be care about, which is the appearance of, you know, the, the appearance of centrism in the police force, for lack of a better word.
Like that's something that they actually care about because that appearance of, of, uh, there's a better word for what I'm trying to say, but not, you know, not being biased.
Is more valuable than than almost anything else because it's what provides cover for the everything else they do Yeah, well, it's one of those things.
It's like it's like a principle It's like it's supposed to be just one of the principles, you know, it's like like listen we do we just don't talk about it It's funny that that is a norm that they're afraid to violate.
why is it we do it but it's decorum we just don't talk about it it's funny that that is a norm that they're afraid to violate like a lot of norms have been violated during the trump era you know yeah um for better or for worse uh Uh, and it's funny that this one is, I mean, maybe it's because it's New York because it's such a high profile state and it's such a blue state.
Um, maybe that's part of why they're so like vocal about denouncing this act of, of, you know, political bias or whatever.
Um, It's funny that this is... Well, they also have a history of being in the pocket of somebody.
So they have to be, like, very vocal about not being in anyone's pocket.
Do you think the Black Lives Matter protests have anything to do with, like, such a, like, vocal response to this?
Absolutely.
Yeah, I think you're totally right there.
They have to be, like, like, They're not out there responding to the protest because of the Black Lives Matter protest.
They're out there responding to the protest the way they are because they are in danger.
Yeah.
And here's the proof.
We don't back this shit.
Here's the proof.
We suspended him with no pay.
Yes.
Here you go.
Yes.
Yeah, you're totally right.
I feel like if the Black Lives Matter... I mean, well, maybe it's a chicken and egg thing.
If there weren't the Black Lives Matter protests, would this cop have antagonized in such a specific way?
There's a question there as well.
That's not to say that the Black Lives Matter are responsible for radicalizing the police.
That's not what I'm saying.
But I feel like we've been putting the fucking heat on the cops for a long time.
That might be the reason for this response.
And I think the reason for the response to his response is...
They know they're under a fucking microscope right now and it's not just a microscope in like you know oh we're uh we're spreading awareness it's like a microscope like we're fucking out in the streets and we're like fucking you guys up.
But I'll tell you this much right now it's not like we can go out there with our phones to protest or anywhere else and record cops and be like oh who are you voting for say it say Trump because they're going to like this is never going to work again this way.
The fact that the guy said, say it again, it's not going to work again this way.
Yeah, sure.
It's going to be, oh, you guys saw this work, we're never going to do this again.
Like, they're ready for it.
And so, like, it doesn't, I don't know, it's just this one gesture, this one time.
Totally.
It's not a hack we can use or anything like that.
It's like a moot point because liberals are going to, like, sigh with relief, you know, that this guy is being suspended without pay.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, liberals aren't interested in reckoning with the reality, the fact, that the police force is a far-right institution.
That the FBI is a far-right institution.
I mean, like, this is like, law enforcement in general.
Far-right institutions as far as the eye can see.
And you can't debate it.
No and so it's like they don't want to have this conversation even the people you know the Democrats do not want to have this conversation because they want to like maintain the kayfabe that is like you know law and order you know like Biden's the fucking Biden the Biden Democratic Party is the party of law and order like it's not yeah There's no desire there to have this conversation.
We need to move on, but I just want to get to this last comment here from Norman Gloss.
Again, reply, so it went, James McKinney, who had the top comment, 247 upvotes.
Landon Perrault who said, the Soup Nazis are real!
Like totally misunderstanding what Seinfeld is.
124 upvotes.
And then the third response, third top comment is from Norman Gloss.
Gloss, the name of a fucking amazing trans hardcore band.
Amazing.
Highly recommended.
Gloss.
Girls living outside of society.
Shit.
Look.
Up.
Gloss.
Trans Day of Revenge.
Please, if you remember anything from this comment, remember that.
Yeah, yeah.
Norman Gloss says, The knee grows in the NFL and NBA are allowed to voice their politics and that's free speech.
A cop does it and the leftists poop their pants.
Yep.
I had cockeyed in my shorts.
I read this comment like, um, kind of quick, you know, when I was like looking at the shit, I read it quick and I was like, I saw the word knee cause it's K-N-E-E.
The knee is the first two words.
And I was like, Oh shit, this comment is going to be like spicy.
Cause he's talking about taking a knee in the NFL or whatever.
He has, it's two words.
The knee can eat K N E E grows G R O W S. The knee grows in the NFL.
Oh, yo shit.
Why did that take so long?
Oh my God.
Fuck.
I thought he was saying like the knee, taking the knee is becoming more prevalent.
This motherfucker saying Negroes.
Oh.
Yeah.
What's funny is this dude says the hard R all the time.
This dude says the hard R all the time.
Wow.
It's a new slur for the Kaepernick era.
Wow.
Incredible.
And it's funny because we kind of like started this show, uh, you know, in the Kaepernick, in the aftermath of the Kaepernick protests.
And we, we joked that, oh, you know, kneelers was the new N word, right?
Yep.
They would say these dirty kneelers.
These dirty kneelers.
Yep.
That's what they would say.
Uh, Yeah, this dude lays it bare.
The knee grows in the NFL and NBA.
Wow.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Gotta love it.
This has 70 likes.
70 upvotes.
Okay.
This is not even the whole comment.
this has the word poop like seconds later.
Just Come on, man.
Come on!
Say, like, like, oh man.
You're like, you're like a rat bastard.
You're like a rat piece of shit, but you're gonna say poop also.
Fuck you, dude.
You don't deserve to say poop.
This is the most malarkey.
You don't get to say poop.
You don't deserve to say, yeah.
I don't like you, dude.
Joe Biden is so mad he couldn't figure out how to say Negroes in a way that he can, like, post it.
Joe Biden's fucking furious.
Because you know the first draft was not Corn Pop.
Yeah, it was fucking Sambo, dude.
Yeah, it was nuts.
Uh, okay, so... Sorry, I had to stop the comment there to address that.
Fuck, man.
It took me the entire time you were saying that to realize until the very- Holy shit.
Yep.
These- You know what sucks?
The races are evolving, the Democrats are not.
100% dude!
It's a goddamn shame!
Absolutely!
The Democrats ain't learning shit.
The racists are just like figuring out new ways to do things.
Well that was like... We're running long here, but I mean, I think it's worth addressing.
Fuck, who was it?
One second.
Sorry, I'm flopping around my phone here.
My charger's all kinked for whatever reason.
It's the only time I'll kink shame.
Okay, so I'm not getting it in my notifications, meaning nobody liked the comment that I said.
Alright, I can't remember who it was, like a celebrity, a musician, said that the reason liberals hate Mitch McConnell so much is because there's no liberal equivalent to Mitch McConnell.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And she's not even like a political actor.
She's like a musician.
I can't remember who it is.
I keep wanting to say Patti LaBelle, but it's not Patti LaBelle.
Michelle Branch.
Not Michelle Branch, unfortunately.
And that's true.
Hold on.
Sorry.
I'm losing my train of thought.
Where was I going with this?
You were talking about the quote that Dido said.
That's farther away from where I was going with this.
Sorry.
Oh, Mitch McConnell, you talk about like this, how we were talking about the left is sorry, not the Democrats really are not evolving, not moving on.
There is no Democratic equivalent to Mitch McConnell.
Right.
Thank you.
So.
I think the clearest like indication the liberals are not moving on or liberals are not evolving is that they're they're still liberals.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think anybody who is still a proud liberal is okay with the erosion of the status quo.
I think they are okay with not only maintaining the status quo, but the erosion of the status quo.
Yeah, I think you're on something there, yeah.
Because to be a liberal under the Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer era, Is to suffer defeat after defeat, right?
Yeah.
And I don't understand how you tolerate that.
I've been, like, very consumed with this idea because I'm concerned with, like, how do we reach out to liberals?
How do we change the way American liberals think about politics?
It's hard.
And with, like, you know, Dianne Feinstein's comments about, like, Amy Comey Barrett, the Supreme Court hearing?
How do liberals tolerate that?
How do Democrats stomach that sort of thing?
I don't understand it.
I come from a long line of Democrats.
I come from a union family who voted Democrat.
Down the line.
For decades.
And the reason I'm not a Democrat anymore is because I saw, like, you know, I couldn't stomach it anymore.
I couldn't stomach the failure anymore.
I couldn't stomach, like, the obvious, like, you know, catering to Wall Street anymore.
And... I'm wondering when, like, the rest of liberals are gonna catch up to that.
Which I think is, like, A good segue to our next topic, but I just want to finish this comment because after Norman Gloss says, a cop does it and the leftists poop their pants.
Civil War II can't happen soon enough.
The communist malignancy must be excised from the heart of the country.
It's time to water the tree of freedom with the blood of our countrymen.
It is time to throw off tyranny.
Yep.
So, I like this comment a lot.
This comment, again, had 70 upvotes.
This is the third top comment in this comment section on the Epoch Times.
I like this comment because it's like, unambiguously Minion Death Cult.
It is the most.
It is peak.
This is a parody post that you would write that we have crafted and passed back and forth for like, this would be our opus.
It's like, but it's so pure we can't do it.
It's like the robotic algorithm of what a Minion Death Cult comment is.
Like, it's like, it's like shit that you shouldn't say out loud because A, obviously it's like, you know, terroristic and violent in nature, but B, it also just sounds like rote.
It sounds like stock Like, stock, uh, anti... Sounds like a Mad Libs.
It sounds like anti-right-wing propaganda.
Like... Yeah.
Like, I... Because it's like... Okay, so we... On the show, Minion Death Cult, like, we... Minion's Law concerns... Evoking the Second Civil War.
Calling for a Second Civil War.
We've always maintained, we've always like, you know, when we talk about these, these comments, like we recognize the idea that a second, a second civil war necessarily entails killing your neighbor.
Yes.
Like it necessarily entails like finding where the Biden signs are and fucking like killing that person, right?
Which is super horrifying.
But that's not what they say.
They just say, oh there's going to be a second civil war and we don't want it but also I'm ready and I've been stockpiling weapons for it for for years now.
Right?
Gotta water these trees.
Gotta water these goddamn trees.
They say that and then they say gotta water the tree with the blood of of tyrants or whatever.
Right?
Yes.
It's never like fully said out loud That like, oh the blood of the tyrants is going to be like your kid's, you know, kindergarten teacher.
This guy just says all of that.
I wish it was my kid's kindergarten teacher because that means they're on my side.
But they started learning God Bless America in class yesterday and I'm having a real hard time.
I'm sorry.
That sucks.
So yeah, what I'm saying is my kid's teacher is going to kill my kid when she turns in her first art project is what I'm saying.
But this comment says, it's time to water the tree of freedom with the blood of our countrymen.
Yep.
Like we're going to kill other Americans.
Other Americans are going to die for the tree of freedom.
Yeah, so anyway, we are running super long.
What other segment do you want to do here, Tony?
I would actually, I mean, because I do think this is the last chance we're going to be able to talk about the election before the election, so maybe just go over the general gist of the lib take on voting.
Okay.
Does that work?
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
It works.
I think it's very... One of the other things we were going to talk about was the Omaha Trump rally where attendees were stranded and seven of them were taken to the hospital suffering hypothermia.
I feel like that's something we should document for posterity.
This is Trump era.
The Trump era might be coming to an end.
I mean, I... I don't think it will be.
I think that... I think that, you know, the show will live on.
So, I don't think it will be.
The Trump show.
The Trump show.
I don't, like...
We were going to talk about the liberal response to Amy Comey Barrett being confirmed.
You know, a lot of these people on Twitter said they were going to burn everything down if ACB was confirmed.
Guess what, when she was confirmed they just like linked to a GoFundMe or they linked to a fundraiser for a Get Out the Vote effort?
Yeah, they actually just linked to a Zales page where you can buy pearls to wear for election day to honor RBG.
That's amazing to me.
The tweet, the movement that's going around is...
All women are going to wear pearls on November 3rd to honor RBG.
Ladies, I just found out we're wearing pearls on November 3rd to honor RBG.
Pass it on.
Yep.
And this is funny to me because like I don't know.
I'm not very well versed in theory.
I'm like, you know, observing all of this from sort of an outside perspective.
I feel like I sort of understand the way people in America
X you know uh relate to politics um and it's very funny to observe this because we were told like you have to vote because of the Supreme Court right which is not like a bad argument it's it's not an invalid argument um whether or not that is like an effective Organizational effort vote for this because of the Supreme Court is arguable.
That's not Probably going to actually do anything but it's but it's a fair argument And then oh, yeah this the she dies RBG dies before the election, right?
RBG oh more like more like RIP.
Mm-hmm That is what she's more like now.
Rest in pearls.
So then the voting becomes do it for the Supreme Court justice who died.
You should vote not because of like An arguably already abstract proposition?
I feel like telling somebody to vote for the Supreme Court is a fair argument, but it's also pretty abstract.
How much does the average person like think about the Supreme Court when they're
getting their paycheck or when they're going to the doctor or when they're uh getting pulled over by the cops like yeah yeah and that's not i don't know so that's already a the only time the only time like people think about the supreme court is when like a white woman thinks they might need an abortion that's the only time
When a white woman in an area that has access to Planned Parenthood in healthcare, the only time they're like, "Good job, Supreme Court," is when a well-off person who has access thinks about needing an abortion maybe.
Then they're like, "Thank you, RJ." Thank you, Supreme Court.
I guess, but like, a well-off person is always going to have access to abortion, no matter what the Supreme Court says.
And the Supreme Court, as it stood with RBG, I'm not telling this to you, Tony, I know you know this, but like, the Supreme Court, as it stood with RBG, already, like, oversaw the erosion of abortion rights in fucking multiple states in this country.
So like, What I mean is the only time they're gonna tweet about the Supreme Court outside of something like that is those moments.
Well, I feel like they're gonna feel like they're, oh, I'm providing a service to Kentucky if I tweet about the Supreme Court, or I'm providing a service to Missouri or Mississippi, and it's like they only have one abortion clinic in fucking Mississippi.
Like, don't worry about it, alright?
Like, before Amy Comey Barrett ever was even fucking nominated, like, Georgia had one abortion clinic.
In the entire fucking state.
Anyway, I don't even remember what I was saying.
We were talking about the Supreme Court.
We were talking about people don't think about that shit every time.
Right, right.
So voting for the Supreme Court is already an abstraction.
It's already far removed from the average person's life, right?
And now, that person died.
The, like, whatever material, quote, material reality was hinged upon the makeup of the Supreme Court, that's gone.
She already died.
Now we're gonna vote in November 3rd to honor the dead Supreme Court Justice who can't even affect the material reality anymore.
We're gonna vote in memory of RBG because she wanted a Democrat to be the next president to replace her.
Fuck you!
How detached from politics do you have to be You know, I think it's so much bullshit that if we were to really get through to it, you know...
I think we should lay off Amy Coney Barrett because I've seen several pictures of her wearing pearls.
So maybe she's not that bad.
She's in this screenshot we have where this is a Hill article where she's taking over RBG's chambers.
She's wearing fucking pearls, guys.
I don't see what the problem is.
I'm actually holding my vote.
My entire vote.
Until I see what Amy Coney Barrett wears on November 3rd.
What if she shows up with like a little like lace doily around her neck?
And it's like yeah sure you would say like oh that's what every justice wears but like what if she wears it you know?
What if she shows up with like a straight nut busted on her chest?
Kaga bro.
Well, I mean, you don't have to be Kaga.
We'll all cross the ticket.
Full thing.
I mean, RPG, RPG, RPG, RPG, RPG, right on the, right on the like clavicle.
Yeah.
Headshots.
I mean, you don't have to like You don't have to believe in contraception when you pull out, you know?
That's true.
That's actually the real Planned Parenthood.
I believe in the rhythm method.
And, I mean, are you telling me, like, RBG had rhythm just because she was notorious?
I don't think so.
I was gonna say, I've had sex on one full moon and I have one child.
That's all I'm saying about my methods.
I want to just get into some comments, some Democratic comments about, again, the confirmation of Amy Comey Barrett.
Did you have anything to say generally about voting?
Like, I know we were talking about this before, but... Yeah.
Um, I don't know.
I just, the whole general Lib, get out the vote movement, the whole, depending on Joe Biden winning, or more than Joe Biden winning, depending on Trump being out of office, or no, depending on Trump losing the election, being very important and fixing our problems is just mind blowing to me.
It's depressing.
I get told a lot that I'm like a one issue person, mostly because I'm very vocal about black American issues, being as that I am a black American and that's probably the most pressing thing in my life when it comes to just my general existence and ability to live and operate in America.
Uh, so I get told that a lot, which is like far from true, um, but my bottom line is, is that it doesn't matter what happens on November 3rd.
On November 5th, and more importantly, was it January 12th is when they get inaugurated?
19th?
Whenever.
January 20th on January 20th in America in 2020 2021 immigrants will still be in in concentration camps which Women's rights will still be impeded on greatly.
I think.
Being queer in America, being a homosexual, being trans, being non-cis will still be a Will still put you in an unsafe situation daily.
You will still run a great chance of being murdered on the street by a police officer.
If you're any American, especially if you're a black American, none of that's going to change.
And so I don't understand what putting this energy into that is like.
And as far as I'm concerned, if Joe Biden wins, The way it works historically, especially with Democrats, especially with America, especially with the way that like white libs are moving and how that's widely acceptable.
If Joe Biden wins, we have eight more years of Joe Biden.
Yeah.
I think for sure eight years of Joe Biden, so long as he lives.
He might fucking abdicate after a term, but then we get Kamala, you know.
But I don't, but I mean, do you really see that happening?
Yeah, I do.
I see him deteriorating far enough to where he gets replaced.
I don't see, I don't see him like dying and that's all, that's the only way that a white man is ever going to say like, here's, here's the fucking reigned black woman.
Is if he's going to die.
So if he dies, that's a different issue.
But if not, I think we have at least eight years of at least that ordeal of Kamala or Joe Biden.
Either way, we're not getting health care.
Either way, we're not getting health care.
But with Trump, we have at least the way the things are lined out, the way the rules are supposed to go.
Considering he does not just like try to like not leave office, which we think we know is going to happen to some extent.
We have four years.
person.
But what's worse is if Joe Biden wins, we have eight years of Biden and all this momentum that has been happening in the streets, and by this momentum I do mean like people showing up for the dance parties and people hashtagging things and like white libs and like white women showing up to protests, is going to stop on November 4th.
It is all going to stop.
And so we have to build up momentum and fight a whole new machine.
A whole new machine that is the same outcome, but a whole new machine.
But with Trump, we're fighting the same machine and we have the same momentum coming, and the pressure is still there.
I think that depending on And I understand this.
I totally understand this.
I think that depending on a Democratic win on Election Day is to say that revolution is not an option.
Which I understand that.
I understand that greatly, but we can't do that.
We're so far from revolution, period.
No matter what happens.
Yeah, but the thing is, you and I can't, you and I can't, because the thing is, I want it in my lifetime.
And if it's going to happen in my lifetime, if it's going to happen, I want it in my lifetime, and I want it in my kid's lifetime.
And if I want it in my life, in my kid's lifetime, that means I don't have any breaks.
Yeah.
There's no breaks for, there's no breaks for us.
You know?
So that's, that's the whole thing.
And like, that's, what's so scary about a democratic win is just any, as a, as a, that's a huge pushback for what we want.
Well, okay.
It might be cool for the Dems, but it's bad for what we want.
Maybe I'm being optimistic.
Maybe I'm being, like, rosy, you know, rose-tinted glasses about this.
But I think about, like, what radicalized me.
And my personal experience is different.
I was already raised to be very, like, socially progressive.
I was already raised with black people in my family, with gay people in my family.
I was already raised to be predisposed to the left without being quite left.
What was the push that radicalized me was A. Obama's presidency and B. the Ferguson protests.
to the left, right?
Without being quite left.
What was like the push that radicalized me was A, Obama's presidency and B, the Ferguson protests.
That's like what pushed me over the edge from like jaded progressive or jaded Democrat to like holy shit, there's like another option.
Right?
Yeah.
And that happened under a Democratic president.
That happened because of the failure of a Democratic administration.
And I think the fucking Biden administration I think he's gonna win.
I think it's gonna be a pretty big fucking failure.
year.
It's going to be a huge failure.
I think people are going to celebrate.
I think I will probably celebrate a little bit in terms of laughing at everybody crying about Trump losing.
I think that's going to be very fun.
Yeah, that's going to be a good time.
But in a more serious frame of things.
It's going to be another failure.
He's already bringing Republicans into his fucking cabinet before he's even been elected.
Like, bad Republicans.
It's unquestionably going to be not a problem solver.
Let's just say that.
I feel like a Biden presidency is going to radicalize more people than even an Obama presidency.
Which radicalized a lot of people from my generation.
I understand that.
I understand that.
And what you're saying is very accurate.
And it applies to myself as well.
Um, I was pretty, pretty lib before Ferguson.
Um, but I was also aware, but the thing with that, that, that analogy, and I'm not, I'm not saying that this is what's happening or what you're doing, but this is what I, this is the way I think about it.
If we have this huge movement, this huge thing has come on the back of the lives of black individuals in America.
That first wave in Ferguson was huge.
That was on the back of Michael Brown.
This is on the back of Ferguson, what's happening now with George Floyd and Breonna Taylor.
This is on the back of that, right?
The thing that's scary about that is that in order for enough people to be radicalized to realize that like their day-to-day life is like not okay because of the way the system we live in and that their their neighbors are not safe and their fellow country people are not safe
It would be a case where we see in like an intersection several black people put on their knees and executed and it's going to cost more black lives.
Isn't that already happening though?
Isn't that already like a reality of America under Democrat and Republican presidents?
It absolutely is.
What I'm saying is, if it took that to push you, who already grew up with a union family and punk rock roots, if it took Ferguson to push you, what is it going to take to push an average lib?
It's going to take something.
It's going to take a black Tiananmen Square.
It's going to be slow motion and brutal and it's going to be awful.
But the thing is, in order for me to accept that...
Like, take that... I have to stay nothing but pissed.
I have to stay nothing but angry, because option B is accepting like, okay, we just need a little more cannon fodder.
And that's not an option.
Maybe what I'm saying is like callous or whatever, but it's like whatever's going to happen is going to happen.
And because we fucking live in America, like more black people are going to die, more poor people are going to die, like more brown people overseas are going to die, more brown people here are going to be locked in cages.
And when that happens under a democratic administration, which is definitely going to fucking happen, Maybe people drop the blue no matter who maybe more people drop the blue no matter who thing and like when I say like I was radicalized by that I just mean like I was I was on the internet when that was happening and I was like oh shit there's a bunch of people who feel the same way I feel about this shit
and there's there's um there's there's a like movement or there's a tendency that aligns with how I feel like like how I feel how I felt growing up through high school like wasn't much different it was just like I didn't know there was like an appetite or I didn't know there was like a uh a place for me basically.
Yeah no no absolutely and like like I like I understand I understand that but what I'm saying though is like Under a Biden presidency, it's going to need something very gnarly for him to be a failure.
Because any foreign affairs is not going to affect the average person.
It's going to take something really gnarly domestically.
During a Biden presidency, it's going to take eight years.
The average Dem doesn't like drone strikes.
The average Dem is like, I feel like... But they don't talk about it either.
They don't talk about it.
I just...
I feel like more people became radicalized by the Obama administration and seeing what like, what, uh, democratic bipartisanship like actually looks like.
I feel like we're, we're, we're like, we, you know, we talk a lot about liberals and Twitter and that sort of thing.
Obama has a hold on people, right?
Obama has a hold on people by, you know, it's not my place to say, perhaps, Obama has a hold on people by being the first black president, right?
No, that's a fact.
Yeah, that's a fact.
He's like, personally beyond reproach in a lot of these circles.
But if you're just to generally talk about the war on terror, or if you're generally to talk about U.S.
adventurism overseas?
Democrats, in general, don't like that.
It's when you talk about, like, Obama or whatever that people might push back against that.
Oh, he did what he had to do, or he had a Republican Congress, or yadda yadda yadda.
The usual talking points.
I guess what I'm trying to get at here is like I guess I what I'm trying to say is like there's a the majority of the way I feel is this like embracing of like an acceleration of standpoint where I would I I I'm I am more afraid of Joe Biden winning
Um, for not just the fact that it's going to be eight more years until I get health insurance, but also because that's going to make November 4th a very scary place in America for a, for I think a short period of time, but I think people will die.
Um, and I think that, I think that it's going to literally be safer, uh, for the average person, um, in America, uh, if, if nothing changes that day.
Yeah if we don't if we don't if we if we don't like if we don't give a reason for those people to use everything they've been talking about for you know not not four years for for longer than that um if we don't give them an excuse to like use their tactics into like because like the thing the thing that scares me is like Those signs we were talking about earlier, you know, the Republic of the City I live in supports Trump and the Law and Order, Trump things, those are like right down the street from me.
And the thing that scares me is like, I do think that if those people lose the election on November 3rd, they will know where I live and they will kick my door down and try to murder me.
Um, but if they don't do that and he wins, I get to go protest some more.
We can protest against Biden.
Like, that's what's going to happen.
I don't know if I will be able to.
I think that those people will say, we need to take out these people to keep our guy in office.
And what's going to happen is like, what I really think is going to happen is that when Donald Trump loses, I don't think he's going to lose by the way, but if Donald Trump loses, there are people scattered throughout this country that have strategic lists of operatives that they need to take out in order for Trump to keep his presidency.
I don't think they're that motivated.
I don't think they're that motivated.
I don't think that they're that organized.
I...
Like...
I don't know if they have the wherewithal and the, like...
Most of, like, the Trump...
Most of, like, the Trump supporters are comfortable, dude.
Like, I Look, I am talking about a very small amount of very motivated people who are scattered throughout the country and who's like, intel I've seen.
Like, this is a real thing.
Um, I, I hope that, I hope that it's just like, I hope it's just data.
I hope it's just like scary lists, but it is real.
Um, the thing is like, whether it's like three people or 150 people, there will be people that are going to be executed the moment that, that Joe Biden is announced to win.
I don't know the scale but there will be there will be people who are harmed because of this and like that's fucking I think that's I don't know if I'm just a coward I don't know if that's the case but like that's what scares me about him winning is like I would rather be able to go out and protest more than just be like taken out if okay
well if people if Trump wins again there would be mass protests okay and And people would die.
People would die in that instance too.
There would be thousands of people in the streets if Trump wins again and more people would die than if Biden won.
That's just a, that's, that's just a off the hand estimate just because of the concentration of pro- like based on the women's march, based on like the, the science march, based on the Black Lives Matter marches, like people are already dying.
But things happening, things happening through marches, And things happening through like, like tactical strikes are, have different effects.
Like things happening through protests and things happening through like what they, what these things, I don't know if it's just like been reading these things for so long that I'm like paranoid.
But I do think there's going to be like an, an attempt to start something that is like a battle type scenario.
I mean maybe.
That's just my biggest fears and my biggest realities you know like that's what it is.
When we're talking about the acceleration argument which is an argument that's like you know been argued on the left for a while about whether or not it's better to like
Subject America to extreme capitalism as opposed to like capitalism light or capitalism medium or whatever under the Democrats, whether or not that's going to evoke more of a revolutionary response under Trump or whatever.
My, again, possibly rose-colored opinion is that we are still going to accelerate under Biden.
When Biden wins, I think Biden's going to win.
If Biden wins, we will still be accelerating towards extreme income inequality.
We will still be accelerating towards climate catastrophe.
These things are going to happen.
I hope so.
With the two parties we have.
The two capitalist parties we have, there's no interest in averting these things.
There's no interest in averting climate catastrophe.
There's no interest in averting a race war or whatever.
There's not going to be an overwhelming concerted effort that will even begin to mitigate the effects of the numerous catastrophes we're going to face.
My hope, I won't say that I think this is what's going to happen, I will say that my hope is that when we see that democratic stewardship of these crises is insufficient that more people will begin to be radicalized.
Because under Trump the radicalization has been vote.
Under Trump, the radicalization has been, let's do a lip-sync contest to what he's saying at his rallies.
Let's make a lip-sync television series.
That's what's been the radical response to Trump.
I don't like, I don't, whatever.
I don't see him being like a motivational factor in that respect.
Yeah.
I think what a lot of it is too is like at the end of the day, a lot of this stuff that like us on like the actual left who are actually organizing and actually doing things at the end of the day, a lot of that stuff is funded by like libs who want to click on a link a lot of that stuff is funded by like libs who want to click on a link to a And then a lot of that's funded by that stuff.
Yeah, and those same mutual aid or direct action organizations could still be funded under a Biden administration.
But I don't know, though.
I don't know.
I think there's a huge swath of people who donate a lot of money who will become unmotivated once Trump's not there.
Because they're not fighting a pussy grabber anymore.
But I think that those people could be written off either way and like those people were never going to contribute to a meaningful, you know, opposition and their disengagement could be more propaganda for our side to show that the liberals do not actually care about opposing the material assaults on the rest of us, you know?
And it might be selfish because I do see a lot of, I do see a lot of people who I depend on to donate money for actions that I like organize.
I do see them being people who are no longer going to donate.
Um, and I know that I live in Southern California.
Um, and I know if we take that, take that and kind of extrapolate that across the country, I do feel like we're going to feel a huge impact from that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like even if Biden wins, it's going to be an interesting time politically.
Either way, I can't wait for it to actually happen.
I feel like it's going to be a maelstrom of politics, even if Biden wins.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we will be here to cover it for you folks.
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