This week with Jamie Peck (The Antifada, The Majority Report) we cover the wonderful facebook page “Dank Pro-Life Memes,” and attempt to pierce its woke attempt at anti-choice politics. Also: An Attitude Era wrestler has a second career as a right wing "anarchist" YouTuber... with sexy results. Support the show for $3.11/month at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult and get a private feed with weekly bonus episodes and access to all previous bonus content including audio versions of our YouTube livestreams. Music: Chokehold - Not A Solution
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What's up, everybody?
Thank you so much for tuning in.
We have a wonderful guest today.
We have Jamie Peck of the Majority Report and the Antifada Podcasts.
Thank you so much for joining us, Jamie.
Oh, thanks for having me.
I didn't even plan it this way, but the closest shirt at hand that I grabbed today when I was looking for a shirt to wear is my Abortion is Healthcare t-shirt, so it really feels like kismet.
Wow, the call is coming from inside the house.
We're here to really, like, send up some pro-abortees today, and little did we know we would have one of them amongst us.
That's right.
Here I am.
Deal with it.
This is, I mean, deal with it is like the level of like meme that we're going to be talking about today.
Like we were talking about a page, a Facebook page.
We're going to start off the episode by talking about a Facebook page called, uh, Dank Pro-Life Memes, which is possibly the most cursed phrase in existence.
Which should be a great satirical thing.
It should be a funny thing for us to have a good laugh with.
But that's not going to be the case.
I think the only way this could be worse, if it was like, dank pro-life memes for level-headed teens.
Oh no.
How dank could a pro-life meme be, really?
I guess we're about to find out.
Extremely.
Yeah, I think we gotta leave it up to the listener to decide.
I found this page a couple weeks ago and I've just been dying to fucking cover it.
So thank you so much, Jamie, for helping us do this today.
I think the first way... I don't know if... It's weird.
The same day I saw this page, I saw another post that was...
Pro-life goths.
Yeah.
Did you see this?
That one's unreal.
It's incredible.
It was a couple like, I don't know, 21 year old girls in like, you know, black lipstick and like posing with, you know, their like peace signs up with a sign that said pro-life goth on it.
That sucks so bad.
You know, goths are supposed to be pro-death, right?
Yeah!
But on the other hand, you know, unfortunately, gothic culture, there's nothing really inherently subversive about it, so it is very flexible when it comes to people who want to be super trad and reactionary.
Yeah, I think their whole thing is they just want these babies to experience the pain of life before they die.
And so they're actually very goth in that sense.
Yeah, you know, there's all kinds of goths out there.
It's a very varied and non-monolithic diaspora, but I really was not aware of the pro-life goth, so thank you for that.
Yeah, no problem.
I don't know how that came across my feed.
I'm so happy it did.
Another person who was very happy that came across their feed was some guy with like an LSU jersey in the comments who was like, been waiting my whole life for a hashtag pro-life goth girlfriend.
Yes, that's all I've been wanting.
Just every girl I've been with has been aborting our child for some reason.
Oh man.
It's I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
I guess it's just I'm unlucky.
You know, it's like the culture or whatever is like warping these women into not wanting to raise a child with me.
I came across.
Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry.
I'm just horrified that this this person's getting laid in our hypothetical situation.
That's that's a thought that also disgusts me.
This page is a page just devoted to Dank Pro-Life Memes, though.
It's called Dank Pro-Life Memes.
It has 36,000 people who like the page, which is amazing.
The cover photo is like a scenic view of a lake with some trees on the shore.
It's sort of like a Just Girl Things type post.
It's a send-up of that.
The top text says, You never existed inside your dad's testicles.
The bottom text says, Hashtag Just Biology Things.
And I think this is like a parody of when people try to own pro-lifers by saying like men shouldn't be allowed to come.
Men shouldn't be allowed to masturbate because life is sacred.
Sperm are sacred or whatever.
This guy's trying to own those people by saying that's not the same thing actually.
That's just one cell whereas a fetus is two cells.
Yeah, I was gonna say, is it supposed to be ironic, right?
Because I thought these people did think that every sperm was sacred.
You gotta make it really, really clear where you stand about this stuff so that you can continue to fap and then also continue to be pro-life.
You gotta lean on biology in that sense.
And like that's, that way you can still get your nut off and not be a hypocrite.
Yeah.
One shouldn't interfere with the other.
I don't think.
Just coming from my point of view, my perspective.
So, so they're like, we're not like those other, those really crazy people who think that sperms are sacred.
The, the cells only become sacred when the one cell meets the other cell.
Like you said, I get it.
Yeah, when my sperm is now out of my hands, both figuratively and literally, then it's sacred.
Then it's, like, your problem.
Once it hits, like, oxygen, then it's, like, then it's real, it's activated?
I meant once it hits a woman's body, then I get to decide that it's, like, human.
Oh, yeah, then it counts.
Um, the details, like the information about this page is very interesting.
This is like stuff that I was just looking up like right before we started, pretty much.
The Facebook page links to a website called TheFetalPosition.com and I mean, you know, for us more like The Fatal Position, you know.
If you're there.
And I went to the website and it turns out the Fetal Position is a podcast.
It's a pro-life podcast hosted by the guy who runs this page and the fetalposition.com like blog posts.
And his name's like Elijah something and he is a guy.
Just when I thought that I was over having podcast beef.
Along comes the fetal position.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A challenger has emerged.
What could they possibly talk about?
What could they possibly be talking about all the time?
Like, so some more babies were born this week and that was cool.
Um his we'll we'll get into like what he posts about and his humor style because it's like it's fascinating to me because it is trying to be like somewhat ironic or somewhat elevated or somewhat cool I mean it's got the
the dank meme you know title in there so uh he's trying something but i mean if you're really asking like what he has to say you can go to thefetalposition.com and read like thousand word blog posts if you want to i wouldn't recommend it but it's there including like a rundown of a twitter argument he got in with another guy, complete with screenshots of every rejoinder he had.
He's like embedding his own tweets and then like doing a play-by-play of his argument.
It's pretty fun. - Yeah.
I just wanted to look at the merch that they have for sale at TheFetalPosition.com.
Dank Pro-Life merch is the merch section.
We have here a t-shirt that's in the multi-color rainbow Barbie style logo.
It's like Lisa Frank, right?
Lisa Frank, is that it?
Yeah.
Rainbow Tigers and such.
I think there's a Barbie font that looks like this as well.
And it says, abortion is a tool of the patriarchy.
Hey.
Whoa.
Whoa.
I'm just saying, you don't see any men getting abortions.
There's a clear bias here.
Men are always pressuring women to get abortions, but never themselves.
What do you think about this, Jamie?
What the fuck do you think this means?
Oh my god.
I'm in!
I don't want to ascribe too much, like, high-level shit to these people.
I don't think they're really thinking about it that hard.
How could abortion be a tool of the patriarchy?
I don't know.
I mean, I guess you've got your sex-selective abortions, where, you know, men just want to create a world of only men, so they abort the female babies.
It could be like that.
It could be like...
But hold on, so I know what you're getting at, and that is an argument that pro-lifers use for other cultures, right?
That's like an anti-China argument, right?
It's used a lot in terms of Orientalism.
I don't know if over here, like, if somebody from the patriarchy would want to produce more men who would be, like, in direct competition with them.
Like, wouldn't they want to produce... I mean, like, these people are freaks, right?
They want to produce, like, the next generation of, like, their child brides, I think.
Yeah.
So maybe it's it's like you could you could say it's it's both a tool of the patriarchy and of uh what do you call it misandry yeah because it's it's men killing baby boys in the womb uh to prevent like their challenger from arising you know That's smart because, like, you know, the only person who can get as close to your wife as you are is your son.
And sometimes you have to, like, cannibalize that.
Right.
Wow.
Maintain your seat on the throne.
I mean, I guess there's like no way that I can imagine abortion being a tool of the patriarchy.
It's so silly, but I wouldn't have been able to like, imagine this either, but I did glimpse another post that was on their Facebook and it was, it said something like, If you think a woman... If you think a mother can't have a career, then you might be the one who's sexist.
Oh.
Someone was saying like, you know, arguing for women to have a choice isn't actually like, that's not a choice that actually exists.
It's only sexism that makes you think there's a difference between being a mother and being like a, you know, a There's nothing hard at all about raising a human being and also having a job that exploits you under capitalism.
Nothing hard about that.
That's only a myth that the pro-abortis made up in order to justify the killing of babies.
I would like to see a campaign, um, kind of championed by this page of, like, stay-at-home dads.
Like, just really encouraging that.
You know, like, hey, let her go have a career.
Let her have that baby and go have a career.
You stay at home with the kids.
This is how we're gonna do pro-life.
I wouldn't be surprised if this page argued for that because it's trying to, like, be subversive even within, like, the pro-life ranks.
And it misses spectacularly, I believe with this fucking t-shirt in particular.
I mean, abortion is a tool of the patriarchy.
Okay, what's the Venn diagram of people who care about the patriarchy who are also pro-life?
It's a sliver.
I think they're just trying to own the feminazis.
Yeah, but it's just I don't think who's gonna like who's gonna buy it, you know, like I don't I don't know It's the first of all, it's like fucking rainbow colored, you know, like that's a big red flag for a lot of these people I think Well, um, you know what though?
I think there is if I think you're phrasing it differently Like I think there is a big overlap of the Venn diagram of people who are pro-life who also own like notorious RBG shirts I think that is a huge overlap.
And so patriarchy's become kind of a fun word to throw around if you're a supporter of that type of corny white feminism.
That's possible.
I don't know.
Maybe that's what that is.
I feel like those people are all pretty pro-choice, though.
I would say so, too.
I would hope so.
I think it's possible that you can be caught up in the culture war that is pro-RBG without realizing that One of the reasons for that is her support for Roe v. Wade.
A couple other shirts here that are just pretty fun.
One of them is a t-shirt with like a fake name tag on it, printed on it, you know?
It says, hello, my name is, and then where the name would normally be, it says, clump of cells.
So this, how is this an own on the pro-choice people?
Because it almost reads kind of like An obnoxious one, but like pro-choice shirt to me, like a clump of cells.
That's not a name.
That's not a person.
I would agree with that.
If I saw somebody wearing this shirt, I would immediately go up and like attempt to abort them.
That's the whole thing.
The shirt comes with a script where like when someone approaches you, you say like, oh, I'm a clump of cells.
You're going to murder me?
Like you're going to murder me right now?
I think they're preppy for that.
I'm not gonna murder you.
I'm just gonna like stop supporting you and then like use your body to further medical progress.
Yeah.
We're just gonna use you for yourselves.
What is a person but a giant clump of cells?
A clump of clumps?
That's apparently like a little slip of paper that these pro-life protesters are giving out at Planned Parenthoods.
It says something like, a fetus is just a clump of cells.
Turn over.
And then you turn it over and it says, so are you.
Whoa.
That's deep.
That's nuts, like, people can't even get to the doors because of the aneurysms they're having when their brains explode.
Like, I don't know, like, if a fetus could manufacture, like, mass-produce a card that said something real dumb like that on it, I'd be like, okay, yeah, you're a human being, right?
Alright, yeah, yeah.
And then finally, just the other shirt I like, is a shirt that says, Pro-Life Libertarian.
Oh my god.
It's got the little hedgehog for the Libertarian Party.
And then underneath, in very small font, very, very small font, because who could fucking care, it says, Abortion is Aggression.
I love that.
Oh my god.
I love that qualifier.
Because again, they're ready for it.
They're like, I know what you're going to say.
I know what you're going to say, but...
You know, we have a non-aggression agreement here and abortion is extremely aggressive.
This just feeds into my theory that there are no real libertarians anymore.
They're just republicans, these people.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, and they're, they're just like Republicans who haven't become outright fascists yet.
Yeah.
It's, it's just like, I think they're this libertarian is the step between like, you know, bog standard neocon and fascist.
Like, you just need a bit of an update on your terminology before you can, like, become a full-blown, like, open fascist.
That's the main difference.
And you have to go through the libertarian tunnel.
So, I gotta meet... It's like the Shaq sleep meme, right?
And it's Shaq, and then it's next to the non-aggression principal, NAP, and it says, I sleep.
And then it's Shaq next to a newborn taking a nap, and it also says, I sleep.
Oh my god.
uh so just getting on going on to like actual content that uh like like ideological content i guess with those shirts count too but uh the first post from dank pro-life memes that i wanted to talk about which is just amazing uh it's a
Meme that's been that's like an edit of another meme and like the the photo background is a Woman's eye a close-up on like a woman's like a model's eye and there's like a rainbow flag like makeup paint over the eye, you know over like the the eyelid and stuff and Top text it says if she wants to abort because her fetus is queer
Bottom text, will you still defend her, quote, right to choose?
I love this.
Wow, this is some real Galaxy Braid shit.
I love this page so much.
It's amazing.
I do love that they are saying that you are, in fact, born queer.
Not only are you born queer, but there's a way to tell before you're even born.
Yeah, you play some babs or something and the fetus grooves pretty hard in your tummy.
Just a general aura that exudes from the belly that you can only see with a certain camera.
Well, maybe these are those pro-LGBT reactionaries that you're always hearing about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's very, very common.
Um, and it's just like... I get the kind of joke that he's trying to make, but it's like... The reason it's a joke here is because, like, okay, a fetus wouldn't be queer.
Like, a fetus can't be queer because there's, like... It's an absurd idea, and the reason it's absurd is because...
Like, a fetus doesn't have agency.
A fetus doesn't have a personality or, like, a fully formed brain or anything.
So the whole reason that this is funny is because a fetus isn't a human.
So, like, how are you making this joke in service of a pro-life movement, uh, is exceptionally funny to me.
Well, because a fetus has nails.
A fetus has finger and toenails.
So that's all you really need.
A fetus, like, yeah sure it can't really feel pain but it can go like this, you know.
That's all it can do.
You can check the nails for rainbow colors too.
Yeah.
You ask the baby to look at its nails and whether they like go palm with the fingers curled or they do the flat out with the fingers facing you that's how you know.
Story checks out.
I love this for so because it's like again like what's your target demo like You're you're arguing for a not just conservative ideology.
I would say that this like surpasses conservative ideology.
This is more like, you know, a dogmatic religion, a fundamentalist religious
Ideology, you know, pro-life, that's where it comes from for the most part, and you're arguing about a fetus being queer to save the life, and it's like... Isn't everybody else who's on your side, like, didn't they all just, like, swear a blood feud with the director of Cuties?
Yeah.
Like, what are you fucking doing, dude?
Anti-choice, but make it woke.
Yeah, exactly.
It's for the radical Unitarians.
They're out here trying, you know... We gotta protect the lives, but also go ahead and do whatever you want once you're alive.
And this had such a strong backlash to this post, he had to clarify in the comment section, guys, I'm mocking this meme.
I don't actually believe anything that you inferred from this post.
I'm not bad at memeing, it's just I'm making fun of it, you know?
Yeah, so far I gotta say, these memes are not very dank.
No.
Because I'm always a little freaked out when I see reactionaries who are kind of fluent in the language of the internet, but I don't think that these are them.
No, that's usually not an intersection.
I don't think 8chan or whatever gives much of a shit about the lives of the unborn or whatever.
That's not where they're putting most of their efforts.
I'm shocked that they're not good at this because according to their profile picture of Strong Bad as a baby, Strong Bad from Homestar Runner, I was expecting some really current, hot, hot internet heat.
Oh my god.
Is that still a thing?
I don't think so.
I don't think it was any new stuff.
Not for like a decade.
I mean, probably more.
Because I don't think I've watched that since I was like a teen.
And it's been, you know, it's been a long, I don't think there's any new stuff, but it was definitely, I was watching it as a teen with like youth group people.
So this does add up, but it's just like, that's so old.
All right, no, I got a meme.
It's peanut butter jelly time, but they're doing it inside of a crisis pregnancy center.
Nice.
Peanut butter jelly in a coat hanger.
What's that flash video that's all the countries fighting each other?
Oh yeah!
That was so bad, I don't remember.
And he has that voice.
Like France.
E-bombs world era?
Yeah, they send le missiles over.
Do something with that, dude.
Think about how epic that would be.
I feel like it's time for those to resurface.
Maybe do the hamster dance, but with fetuses.
Yeah!
Well, you get the baby from, uh, the dancing baby from Ally McBeal.
But you just, like, de-age it a little bit.
Yeah, wasn't that like a blockbuster?
Anyways, yeah, get that baby.
The next just like wonderful meme I pulled from this page is they've screenshotted their own tweet, which, you know, no shots.
It's a good way to get engagement on Facebook.
You know, visual posts usually have a farther reach than text-based posts.
So, you know, no shots there.
The tweet is a side-by-side Comparison, right?
And the left picture is completely dry macaroni in a bowl.
And the text says, when he says he's pro-choice.
And then on the right side, it says, when he says he's pro-life.
And it's just like fucking wet ass pasta.
Just drippy mac and cheese.
It's drippy mac and cheese.
It's that wet and gushy.
I can hear it being stirred right now.
I'm just trying to imagine a scenario where a pro-life woman, I guess is the implication here, is in a position to make mac and cheese for a pro-choice man, and she serves him a bowl of dried noodles.
Like, gotcha!
Yeah.
This is me right now.
This is a metaphor for what's going on downstairs right now.
And you just like, you like shake it, you know, you like clank it together or whatever.
I have a theory that this person is actually... Oh, I get it now.
I'm a little slow on the uptake today.
I just thought it was about making mac and cheese for people.
I don't know.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
Pro-choice people can't cook.
I am pure of heart, okay?
Yeah, you're pure of heart, so the picture on the right represents you when he says he's pro-life.
I like to imagine that what it is is like the woman in question here is like a pretty extreme sub to where they just like they like to be dumb so hard that they like all agency removed from them and that's what they're saying.
Yeah like like tie me up but none of this like fake ass poser handcuffs none of this fake ass like zip ties or like or like silk bandanas around my wrist no tie me up for 18 fucking years.
Yeah yeah.
Just fucking, just like, strap me to that cross.
Like forced birth, but as a kink.
Ay yi yi.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty hardcore, I will say.
That's pretty intense.
So, like, I didn't know this was a guy.
Like, hey, I mean, you know, maybe call me a feminist or call me, like, an egalitarian or whatever, but I'm like, oh, hey, dank pro-life memes.
This could be a woman who's posting this cringe.
I believe in equal opportunity.
I believe in, like, equality among the sexes, among the genders, and This could very well be a woman and it wasn't until like I went to TheFetalPosition.com that I learned it was all done by a blonde guy named Elijah.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh cool dude, you're tweeting about how you get women's pussies wet.
Like not only are you like dictating what a woman can do after she's pregnant, but you're also saying what she's doing before she gets pregnant as well.
Oh my god.
Typical.
It's really cool, dude.
That's always a good move, is just like, I like to lean in and whisper, you know, like, hey, if we conceive tonight, I'm gonna go ahead and, uh, not, I'm gonna go ahead and like, not let you get an abortion.
Are you into that?
Is that what you're into?
And they're like, abso-fucking-lutely, let's do this.
It works every time.
I'm skeptical as to whether this guy has ever had sex but you know there are some like terrible people out there who are women so maybe.
I don't think this guy has had sex.
I don't think he's allowed to until the Holy Spirit's part of it and he's just waiting for that.
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
Um, it's just like, so this meme, like, you know, analyzing this meme, maybe possibly more than it was intended to be, um, you're basically just like, hey, like, I want to, I want to fuck for like a kid to like have a kid.
And then she's like really into that idea.
Right?
Yeah.
That's, that's a thing.
Or like even, Even like, I guess on like, say you're still wearing a condom, or she's still on birth control, or whatever, you're still just like, hey, like, I totally, like, love kids, you know?
Like, I think, I think fetuses are the, are the shit.
That, like, gets her horny.
So weird.
Right?
Because they're horny not just, you know, for their own pro-creative desires, but they're horny to impose them on everybody else in the world.
Yeah, right.
It's one thing we kind of have to remember is that pro-life comes with, like, legislation.
Yeah.
I would not say that that satisfies the BDSM rules of safe, sane, and consensual.
Well, I did forward them an article about the phenomenon of orgasmic birth first.
Okay, so another amazing post from Dank Pro-Life Memes is just a text post this time.
If the pro-boardies are actually okay with the quote, her body her choice for any reason rhetoric, they're enabling racism, sexism, classism, ableism, and every other form of bigotry slash phobia they pretend to care about.
That's what's been going wrong.
All this stuff exists because we're pro-choice.
I thought it was just capitalism and white supremacy, but turns out it's...
Because we're pro-choice.
That sucks.
This is very much in the same genre as the abortion is a tool of the patriarchy shirt.
It is somehow trying to appeal to, like, you know, the left.
It's... I think a lot of this... I think you guys nailed it.
I think it was... I don't remember which of you it was because I don't see color or gender, but...
This is just all an appeal to the left.
It's like not very good propaganda, but it's specifically aimed at the left.
Because there's an ultimate grievance here with the left in general, and I think this is like possibly the most irrational.
Because not only is it like, oh you're enabling the patriarchy if you're pro-choice, you're also enabling racism, sexism, classism, ableism, and every other form of bigotry You pretend to care about.
So you're a hypocrite.
You're a hypocrite on the left if you're pro-choice.
And like, so I guess this is saying you're just like looking at your, your fetus, you know, your future child and you're like, you're gonna be fucked.
You're gonna be a scrub.
You're gonna be poor as fuck, aren't you?
And you're just like, you're like, fuck that shit.
I don't, I don't have any, I don't have any takers in my, in my household.
And then you abort them.
It's actually very backwards because what abortion actually does is it stops all that bigotry from happening because it can't happen to a person that's never alive.
So like, they got it all backwards.
Being pro-abortion is actually the best way to fight and to guarantee no one's going to experience that type of bigotry at their expense.
It's just, don't let them live.
I don't think I've ever heard a Malthusian argument for anti-racism.
There it is.
You heard it here first, folks.
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, this is a pretty common one that I've seen on billboards and shit that the pro-life...
I like to call them anti-choice people, like to put up by pointing out like, you know, there's a disproportionate amount of black babies that get aborted, therefore abortion is racist, it's racism, it's genocide, blah blah blah, without ever looking at the reasons why that might be true, you know?
They don't.
I mean, I guess if they're supporting redistributive policies and anti-racist policies that would, you know, put more money in the pockets of black women or whoever, then they might have a leg to stand on.
Only, no, still, because it's still up to them if they're going to have a baby or not.
You know, we hear all about like, you know, white police shooting police officers, but you never are shooting.
Sorry, shooting black people.
But you never hear about the black on black crime that occurs in the womb.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Very specifically, there was this guy.
There was a shooting on Thursday in San Benito, where I live, where a black man was shot in the back four times by a police officer and murdered.
And it was awful.
And we went to a protest at the site of the murder.
And there was a guy there who was recording the whole thing.
And later on, someone forwarded me his YouTube page and his Twitter feed.
And he's some right winger who's out there Posting pictures of myself and other organizers talking about how like stupid and awful we are and how this is like...
Dumb and like that person deserved it and all that stuff.
And nestled inside of his tweets is a whole thing about how Kanye is right and how there is in fact a genocide of black individuals in America through abortion, not through being gunned down in the streets.
And it's like they don't even miss a beat.
It's all there together and it makes no fucking sense.
It does not add up.
These people are fucking idiots and awful.
Is Kanye going to get the evangelical vote?
What the fuck is going on here?
Kanye is gonna continue to sell merch and shoes and everything else and just keep on like keep on cashing those checks that's all that's all he's doing and it's you know people are gonna forget about Kanye and then see his name on the ballot and make oh yeah Kanye West he has that gospel album let me go buy a hat from it and that's what's happening and it fucking sucks I like what Kanye says about abortion.
I like when Kanye talks shit about slaves.
I like that.
I just wish he wouldn't say the n-word in his songs.
That is totally a take someone's saying right now.
That is absolutely a thing.
So just back to like, you're enabling racism, sexism, classism, ableism, like anytime you don't have a child, hey, there's a 50% chance that you're doing sexism.
Because that child could have been a woman, could have been a girl, you know, and that's you doing sexism.
Yeah, or reverse sexism, you know, if it would have been a boy.
Exactly.
That's another plague in our country.
A massive galaxy brain post here.
This is the format that was used post Kyle Rittenhouse murders.
It is an NPC saying if abortion is legal then men Abandoning women should also be illegal.
If this is permanent for the woman, it a hood be for the man.
I think it's supposed to say, uh, it should be for the man.
Uh, then you have like the Nordic, like strapping blonde bearded guy, you know, in profile moving closer to the NPC and he whispers into the NPC's ear dramatically.
Your terms are acceptable.
And again, this is like, uh, the meme was like somebody saying, you know, uh, you're going to enforce, you know, fascist police dictatorship over our dead bodies.
And then the white guy says, yeah, that's good.
We accept that.
Your terms are acceptable.
Uh, but this pro-life guy thought it was a good format to use, uh, for his dank meme.
And again, the idea is that a leftist is saying, Men shouldn't be allowed to leave women.
If women shouldn't be allowed to get abortions, then we should force men to stay with women.
Which is definitely something that leftists, uh, argue for.
They definitely think that, like, a man who wants nothing to do with, uh, his family or his, you know, partner or whatever should be, uh, forced to stay in that situation.
And furthermore, uh, This meme says that yes, that is right.
The man should be forced to stay in that situation.
How do we all feel about this?
That always ends up in a safe, healthy environment, right?
Just having a man in the house guarantees a safe, wholesome, balanced household, right?
It doesn't just increase the likelihood of domestic violence and abuse and those sorts of things.
We don't have a toxic masculinity problem.
We have a lack of masculinity problem.
Yeah, having a bad dad around has never been bad for anyone.
It just works out fine.
It works out great.
Yeah, you can become an artist.
You can become a comedian.
It's really good shit.
It's healthy.
Oh, so much great art that we wouldn't have if bad dads had just, you know, fucked off.
Well, actually, think about this, too.
Think about how much art we won't have if dads aren't allowed to abandon their children.
A lot of good stuff came out of that, too.
We're not thinking about this.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, as the first person who commented notes, child support already exists, and men already pay it.
Yeah, and men won't shut the fuck up about it.
Nope.
Not even the ones who don't pay it and will never pay it, as we see here.
Uh, that's why I thought this post was so interesting.
I wanted to see what the, uh, what the following of dank pro-life memes felt about, uh, making leaving your wife illegal.
Yeah, I was really interested in that.
Uh, and the, the overwhelming response was like, yeah, basically already is illegal, you know, or you can leave your wife, but you, but you gotta, you gotta, uh, you can, you can leave the home, but you gotta leave your nuts behind, you know?
Uh, that sort of thing.
It was the overwhelming response.
Like, people who were- have, like, a more coherent set of beliefs than dank pro-life memes are like, yeah, you fucking moron, this is already reality, and it sucks for us, the men.
Like, what are you trying to do to us?
Um, and, uh, yeah, Alf- Alfarius Omegan, which is, uh, supposed to be Alpha and Omega, but it's... I don't know.
I like that.
I like that.
Says it already is.
Men get no say on if they are to become a parent or not.
Yeah, totally.
No say at all.
Like, there's no preventative actions we can take before that baby's born, you know?
Like, I don't know, wearing a condom.
Well, it's the exact same preventative measures that they're saying women have before, you know, getting pregnant.
Yeah.
Oh, you want the right to choose?
Yeah, choose to make him wear a condom.
No one told you to do that.
No one told you to bust inside of her, dude.
Yeah.
Well, no, no, the thing is, if she would have told me... I don't know, I've had girls tell me...
Nevermind.
If she would have told me that she was planning on, you know, like, being fertile and carrying it, you know, to term, I probably would have put a condom on.
It's just, I don't know, it's funny to see men suddenly reject the idea of wearing a condom is the last, like, possibility you have to avoid fatherhood.
Yeah.
It's just, it's just a little interesting, you know?
Laura Loretta M Welsh commented, you want to end teen pregnancy and degenerate section 8 welfare moms that have kids to purposely get more benefits?
Four question marks?
Introduce family law into sex ed.
The law is in favor of women when it comes to family law.
This is coming from a woman who is a paralegal, wonderful, who has seen shit firsthand.
Women get away with shit more than men when it comes to family law.
And then Caitlin Yauger replies, yes, you're spot on.
What is family law?
It's that one thing that's really been missing from the curriculum of sex ed in America.
That's the one thing that's been missing, is family law.
I agree with you 100%.
You're totally fucking right.
What are you talking about?
What is this?
Yeah, and uh...
I guess if you want to follow the thread of logic here, boys would be less likely to get girls pregnant if they know that it's probably gonna be the girl who ends up having to take care of the kid, custody-wise.
Which, I don't know.
I don't know, guys.
That's my favorite thing.
A little pro tip for the fellas out there.
If you want to keep on living your life and knocking boots and having babies and don't want to pay child support, you actually don't have to if you have equal or greater custody of the child and take care of your kid directly.
A little pro tip there.
Maybe give it a shot.
Yeah, but that's not taking into account, like, toxic femininity that can exist in those relationships, you know?
I think, so, you know, there's a lot of conversation, there's a lot of talk, there's a lot of hypotheticals about, like, you know, what should we do about school shootings?
Like, you know, we need to get teachers in there armed.
We need to have, we need to hire, like, military veterans to teach these classes, right?
To sort of prevent this thing from happening.
Well, I think a similar argument could be made for sex ed.
We need to get some divorced dads in there to teach these classes, really, like, instill some, like, some vigilance into these boys, into these young boys, and tell them exactly what can happen.
Isn't that why high school sports exist?
For divorced dads to, like, yell at kids about, like, you know, you gotta make sure you wrap it up, they'll take your whole life away from you.
That is a pretty good anti-pregnancy program, actually.
Just like everybody is coming out of that class totally sexless.
Yeah, just bummed.
Listen, 18 years is not worth a second.
18 years is not worth two seconds of satisfaction.
Tony, do you remember the fucking record label, 1917 Records?
Yeah?
That was like Donnie Brook and shit.
Yeah.
Were they communists?
I don't know.
That just occurred to me.
There's so many things like that I didn't think about at the time because I just wasn't thinking that way.
I wonder.
I hope they're down.
That'd be sick.
Yeah, there's a hardcore label called 1917 Records.
I didn't know why it was fucking called that back then when I was like 18 or 19.
And it was only recently that I thought of it, and it was like, there were like tough guy bands.
They were like, the biggest band on there I think was probably Donnybrook, which was like a fucking street fighting band that was into like hockey and shit.
Their biggest song was like, what's a little blood between the ones we love that was about like moshing and hitting your friends.
Which is very communist.
Okay, yeah, I can see that.
Alright, let's get back into it.
So just, um... The final... Well, okay, so I just wanted to say about Loretta M. Welsh's post, I think it's really cool, dude, that you're, you know, posting all this pro-life stuff and you're trying to be woke about it, and your comment section is still filled with people screeching about welfare queens.
Yeah.
Still people screeching about Section 8.
That's great.
That's the cool thing about racism is like you can it's really diverse you know you can be you know a staunch anti-choice person and be racist or you can be even as or more racist by being pro-choice in this case.
And then finally, so I just, you know, I love this page.
It's amazing to see what sort of contortions they're coming up with.
But unfortunately, the last meme I have here, the last post from Dank Pro-Life Memes says, I'm bowing out of things until after the election.
It is affecting my mental health.
See you on November 4th.
Yeah.
Wow.
Adorable.
Hopefully he's gonna, like, drop some sick shit on the 4th.
Hopefully.
Hopefully he'll, like, recharge his batteries and come back stronger than ever.
Danker than ever.
It's affecting all of us, guys.
Gotta practice self-care on both sides of the aisle.
Like, the, uh, a lot of the, some, not a lot, I would say, but there's more than one.
There's several posts on here about how, like, About how Republican presidents and Republican leaders haven't managed to outlaw abortion yet?
Therefore, like, you're a fool if you vote for them?
Like one of them is Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown and Lucy's labeled Reagan 1980.
Vote for me and I'll outlaw abortion.
And then in the next panel Lucy's labeled Reagan 1984.
Vote for me and I'll outlaw abortion.
And it goes through all the Republican presidents who haven't actually quote outlawed abortion.
And I just want to say I like where your head's at, dude.
I think you should keep putting those memes out there.
I think they're great.
Like, what's the point in voting when, like, you know, I can't, like, spray down a Planned Parenthood legally with my AR?
Yeah.
It's like the flip side of, you know, how we feel all the time on the left, right?
Right, except that... It's like a dark mirror to people with good politics.
I would argue that the right wing has been incredibly successful when it comes to curtailing the rights of women to choose.
I mean, just on a state-by-state basis.
And Republican presidents have put in Supreme Court justices who haven't struck down those state laws.
And I mean, even further, who knows what's going to happen with this new Supreme Court that we're likely to get.
I don't know.
It's like people on the right being really mad at Mitch McConnell for thinking Trump's a clown, or whatever he says privately about Trump, despite being the most successful Republican senator in five lifetimes.
Yeah, I take it back.
The analogy doesn't hold because Republicans actually deliver on their campaign promises.
It is the same sentiment but it's just it's it's funny to see it being expressed on the right because like dude you're you're like winning so I really hope you continue to somehow like make fun of Reagan for not being right-wing enough or whatever and like deny electoralism because of the failures of Bush or whatever.
As long as Republicans are either men or have these awful sons, they will always let abortion be illegal so they can get out of some tough jams.
That will always be a thing.
But I think I am going to use this argument to my grandma and be like, yeah, you've been voting for Republicans and you've been wearing those little tiny feet pin as long as I've known you my entire life and you're going to keep wearing those feet pin if you keep on voting for Republicans.
I like this argument because it's almost like it's it's it's a different tactic than the like oh you're you're a poor redneck voting against your own interests or whatever like that's never gonna you're never gonna dissuade somebody for voting like that but you could say hey you're voting you're voting against uh uh you're voting for their interests When you vote for the Republicans.
Because they're not going to prevent them from doing what they want.
So you're voting against their interest.
Or you're voting for their interest.
I think that might actually be persuasive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, just everybody stay home.
They're not gonna outlaw abortion.
It's not fucking worth it.
So, you know?
It's basically like Hillary Clinton is still not in jail.
You know?
God damn it.
Obama hasn't been arrested.
What have they done for you?
Nothing.
Zip.
They're fakers.
Listen, you put me in the office and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will share a cell.
That sounds pretty good, I'm not gonna lie.
That should be, like, the leftist promise.
Yeah.
Oh, are we horseshoe-theorying around?
Yes, absolutely.
To the other side?
This is the one time that horseshoe theory is valid.
Okay, so, moving on.
We have here...
Just a wonderfully weird segment.
This was brought to my attention by listener, friend of the show, Bobby, who runs John Brown Fun Club that we have promoted here previously on the show.
That is johnbrownfunclub.etsy.com for all your leftist swag needs, including the very cool working class veteran hat that I like.
Yeah.
So good.
Which is not in fact stealing valor.
If you have ever made a wage, if you have ever been paid via the wage system, you are 100% entitled to wear a working class veteran hat.
Highly recommended.
Bobby sent me A guy that I was unaware of.
Other people, including Tony, are far more aware of this guy than I am.
His name is Val Venus?
Yes.
Am I pronouncing that correctly, Tony?
You are pronouncing it correct.
Because it's spelled like penis with a V. It is supposed to be spelled like penis.
Like that is not an accident.
Val-venus is the synthesis between masculinity and femininity.
Val Venus, well when we get into who he is actually.
Explain who Val Venus is to the listener.
He is an ex WWF star from like the late 90s early 2000s attitude era and his whole thing was he was just like a horny mess.
His whole thing was he was like supposed to be sexy and horny and he would come out in like a towel and his whole thing was like hello ladies like you're gonna One of you lucky ladies out there is going to be able to experience Val Venus.
And he was supposed to just... It was always hinting towards him having a huge hog.
But he still has to wear regular, like, you know, wrestling shorts and had what I was perceived to be, from what you can tell, a pretty average hog.
You should have seen it before the steroids though, dude.
That's true.
That's true.
The balls were a little girthier.
But yeah, his whole thing was just like...
Everyone's lucky to possibly have sex with me.
The whole gimmick was that he was going to fuck someone in that stadium that night.
Is it true that part of his tag team, his tag team with another guy was called Supply and Demand?
Yes, absolutely.
Tag team champions.
I want to have a tag team called like, me and another guy and it's called The Profit Motive.
I like that.
This is fascinating.
He was sick though.
The reason we're talking about Val Venus is because apparently he has a right wing YouTube channel called Top Shelf Anarchy.
What?
Which should be sick according to that name and should be some high quality anarchy content.
Not even judging by his politics, but just judging by the way he promotes his videos.
Let's go ahead and listen to one of his videos.
Okay, um...
Which one here?
This one is titled, Val Venus finds stacked facts proving leftists incite violence.
And he is posing in front, he's like doing the front-facing camera thing, handheld, cell phone, on a couch, and behind him is a Canadian flag, but instead of a maple leaf, it's a weed leaf in the center.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
And this is a...
Somewhat long intro, but bear with me, okay?
Okay, I think it's pretty good.
Hell yeah.
You know, the statists.
But not just any statists.
Leftist statists.
The violent statists.
Well, they're all violent, but these, these folks are the delusional, ultra delusional, violent statists.
The Democrats, the leftists, the socialists, the Marxists, whatever it is you want to label these people, they're- I like that line a lot.
Whatever you want to call him.
You can just call him anything.
It doesn't matter.
Whatever bad stuff you want to call him.
I do like how, conveniently, Anarchist is not on that list.
No, because he is an anarchist.
He's the good one, you know?
I mean, it is true there tends to be a little bit of bad blood sometimes between anarchists and Marxists, but... You mean tankies.
Yeah, but I don't know that that's what's happening here.
What if he's just like really anti-tanky?
I mean, I respect it.
Facts matter, and here are the facts.
Courtesy of yours truly, the big Val Boski, Val Venus, forwarding you a gem he found right there.
Dead smack square in my timeline on Twitter.
On Twitter.
Before they could take it down.
Have a gander at this gem. - Aye, aye.
Okay so just to just to clarify this is a minute and a half intro for a video he found on Twitter.
This is like somebody else's video that we're gonna we're not gonna watch any of it.
We're gonna watch the first clip just to fucking give you an idea of what he's talking about.
He did a minute and 35 seconds of another video from Val Venus where We.
Look.
At.
The Left.
For a minute and 35 seconds of just, you know, these kooky, crazy leftists.
And let's just get a taste of what he's talking about.
I snatched it before they could take it down.
Have a gander at this, Jim.
I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.
That was Nancy Pelosi calling for violence against Trump supporters.
Obviously, we don't even have to see the rest of this video to prove Val Venis' point that the left are violent.
We just heard Nancy Pelosi calling for it.
Hell yeah, Comrade Pelosi.
All these quotes he pulls wildly out of context of people from the quote left.
It's one of those things where it's like, God damn it.
I wish we were who they said we are.
If Pelosi was out there like, yo, we need to get in the streets.
I heard it.
We need massive uprisings.
I heard her say it, Tony.
She did say it.
And that's the thing.
That's the bond I have to pick with her is, I'm sick of these fucking white Anarchist cosplayers hijacking the Black Lives Movement and causing violence.
When we all know the Black Lives Movement is a peaceful, non-aggressive, silent protest against the police, and then we have these like... I mean, is anybody here on this show gonna say that Nancy Pelosi isn't right-wing?
We know she's right-wing.
She's a capitalist.
She said we're capitalists.
That's just the way it is.
This is a capitalist, a right-wing actor, inserting herself into the Black Lives Matter movement and causing violence.
Trying to get us all wrapped in this violent fantasy, this violent ideology that the right-wing has.
And I'm fucking sick of it.
If that was real, then anything I ever do or organize or attend, I would just bring a giant screen to project her saying that to the crowd and then just throw weapons into the crowd and we'll go from there.
I'm imagining rad libs hearing Nancy Pelosi speak at a protest and calling for us to push back against their ideas.
Be like, what the fuck?
What is she saying?
And then, like, picking up Nancy Pelosi and, like, taking her over to the cops to, like, have the cops arrest her.
Turning her in, yeah.
I mean, I'm definitely not the CEO of Antifa, so I'm not gonna say that Nancy Pelosi has been giving Antifa the marching orders, like, ever since we were founded.
Yeah, it's from the jump off.
Wasn't Antifa actually, didn't she coin the phrase?
Isn't that her idea?
You know, she might have been one of the people credited with that.
I think the important thing to remember is that we are the paramilitary wing of the Democratic Party, and if anybody says that we're not, they're just doing disinformation.
If anybody says that they're not funding our activities, I would like to point you to one $1,200 check about five months ago.
Yes.
Refute that.
Refute all the work that Nancy Pelosi's done to keep us funded.
Mm-hmm.
Bought a lot of balaclavas with that money.
Yeah.
Um, and so just, you know, like this video has like a clip of like, uh, what, what's her name?
Uh, um, oh yeah.
Kamala Harris saying, uh, we're going to protest until the election or whatever.
Right.
And that's violence.
It's violence to do that.
Uh, and then this is how he finishes up.
Uh, this is like the outro to his video.
He also, he also kept, like, the watermark for whoever actually edited the video, who put, like, a little outro to their own edit.
You know, on Twitter, it's called, like, Cauldron Pool or something, and they have, like, a little outro animation, like a production studio, and that's just in this YouTube upload, which, I want to think it's him giving credit to them, but I think it's possibly just him not having any idea what he's fucking doing, and he's just like, okay, the video, I gotta wait for the video to end.
Okay, now it's over.
Now it's good, yeah.
To be fair, that's about the level of video editing that I know how to do as well.
Listen, I'm an anarchist through and through.
A true anarchist.
Not what the media portrays as anarchist.
I'm talking about Eli Sanders Spooner type of anarchist.
Do we know who this guy is?
Jamie, do you know who Lysander Spooner is?
I don't know who this guy is.
No.
I'm imagining he's just like Murray Rothbard.
He's like one of the children that Murray Rothbard bought on the black market and trained to be his Padawan or whatever.
It might just be like our American exceptionalism.
He might be like a Canadian, a right-wing Canadian anarchist.
No, he says it's like a shame that America erases the history of Lysander Spooner.
I'm looking it up.
Oh yeah, he was an American.
He was, oh god, this guy seems like he's got this wrong if he thinks this is who he is like.
He was an American individualist anarchist.
He was also an abolitionist, entrepreneur, essayist, legal theorist, pamphletist, political philosopher, Unitarian writer, and a member of the First International.
Okay, I was gonna say, how is he an individualist and a member of the First International?
How does that work?
It does seem a little bit like it doesn't work together.
He's been identified with libertarian socialism and mutualism.
All right, so not a right-wing libertarian, I guess, although it does say here his writings contributed to the development of both left-libertarian and right-libertarian political theory within libertarianism in the United States.
Oh my god, we found the missing link, guys.
We found it.
This is the guy whose fault it is.
Is this where the term spoonerism comes from?
Where you misinterpret something and then regurgitate it incorrectly?
That sounds absolutely, like, that sounds on point.
I also just like that, um, I think this guy just likes the idea of anarchy being, like, chaos and maybe this guy did something pretty chaotic that was, like, pretty, you know, disruptive at one point in time.
That's what he's, like, leaning on.
He's like, I'm just a real anarchist.
I'm just a real crazy guy.
I love it.
There's another video that Tony sent me that is just amazing.
We're only going to listen to like five seconds of it.
Do you remember the timestamp at all, Tony?
It's like toward the third, like the, so this, this, um, this video is Val Venus destroys Kamala Harris.
And yeah, like to his credit, he's like, Hey, you locked up, uh, you locked up kinfolk For marijuana.
Not all kinfolk is skinfolk.
Not all skinfolk is kinfolk, rather, is what he's saying in this video as a white Canadian.
And it's a legit point.
It's a great video.
It's a really good video of tearing down Kamala.
Okay, this is another thing I wanted to say, too.
That's his trademark.
And today's Val Fact is this.
If you vote for Joe Biden with Kamala Harris as Vice President, know that you are threatening the freedoms and liberties of all black men and all black women all over America.
That Kamala Harris made it a sport putting away otherwise That's right.
- Right. - Peaceful black women - All true. - For simply kicking back sucking God's medicine.
Cannabis.
She ripped black families apart throwing black human beings into cages and made a sport out of it.
Not wrong.
...interrupts salt into the wounds of her state-sanctioned victimization of black human beings.
She lies and laughs about smoking weed in college while listening to Snoop and Tupac.
Private sector community that produce far more melanin than I do.
Private sector community, but especially...
Kamala Harris is a danger to the private sector community, but especially to those in the private sector community that produce far more melanin than I do.
What?
Say what?
I fucking love it.
I love it.
More melanin.
More melanin than I do.
My fellow melaninated people.
Hey, don't ever criticize somebody for mispronouncing a word.
It means he's just read it.
It means he's read up on melanin and has just never said it out loud, Tony.
That's valid.
He's well versed on the theory behind colorism.
You know, he had me in the first half, I'm not gonna lie.
Then he had to go saying also that they're gonna be bad for melaninated business owners, right?
And I was like, well, I don't care about capitalists of any kind, sorry.
You're talking about when he says private sector individuals, right?
Yeah.
I think he just means people who aren't employed by the government.
Like that's what he means when he like it's proper it's like it's like far-right propaganda it's like It's like people who aren't part of the government teat or whatever.
All of us here, you Jamie, you Tony, we're all private sector individuals.
We don't exist as agents of the government.
But that's like the beauty and the power of cannabis though, right?
Is that that's the only reason this guy has any state, like any opinion on this.
He's not like, Oh my God, there's like a rash of black people being locked up in California for like nonviolent crimes.
What's going on?
He's like, man, they're just trying to like smoke some Buddha and she's hating on him.
And that's not fucking chill at all.
Um, I'm trying to see if this outro is what I wanted to talk about because his branding is so incredible.
Oh, the big Val Boski?
Okay, so that's what I wanted to talk about.
And I think it happens better at the end of the leftist...
The leftists are doing violence.
Let me see.
Till next time, I'm the Big Val Mosky, Val Venus, and you're watching Val Facts, right here on the Library Video Platform, Top Shelf.
So, he's created three different brands for the same YouTube channel?
Yes.
Which is ValFacts.
You're watching ValFacts on the library platform.
On Top Shelf Anarchy.
It's all just one YouTube channel called Top Shelf Anarchy, but he puts like a hashtag in the animation artwork that's hashtag LBRY.
So I would argue that's even a fourth type of branding.
Library isn't even spelled the way he says it.
And Valfax or library aren't even in the title of this video.
It's just amazing.
I love the way this man's mind works.
I think that library format is just like what he's calling YouTube.
I think he's like, well, this is like a library of videos and this is where I'm at.
Right, it's a library because it's leftist media.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a lie, like lying.
I think that's, I think that's it.
Like false truths.
Do you want to, um... And it's Barry because, uh, I don't know.
It's Barry important that you know these things.
It's Lie Barry because they bury the truth.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Go ahead and read this first meme, Tony.
Describe it to the listener.
So in this first meme, there's been a little beef between Val Venus and other professional wrestlers.
Such as Dwayne The Rock Johnson and the picture is Val Venis wearing his tag team champion belt because that's the best one he ever got was a tag team champion belt from back in the day and then The Rock now with Joe Biden photoshopped behind him sniffing his neck which is just beautiful because I guess The Rock came out and endorsed Joe Biden which is really going to put him over and we're going to win this thing.
We're going to end racism.
It's his meme that says, quote, I lost all respect for The Rock when he threatened my kid's future with communist rule.
Which I love, because I love this idea of Joe Biden being the threat of communist rule.
I fucking wish.
Yeah, good thing they didn't nominate a socialist because then they would be, oh, they'd be saying the exact same stuff about him no matter who was running.
Yeah, that was the fear, right?
We can't put a socialist up because they're gonna run all this, you know, anti-communist sentiment toward us.
It's gonna be the Cold War all over again, you know, throughout this election season.
It doesn't matter who's there.
They already had the memes ready to go.
They're just gonna fill in the blank.
You guys are saying that, but like...
People, when they hear Joe Biden is a communist or whatever, they laugh.
Like, much like our listenership is laughing.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Joe Biden a communist?
You know, I freaking wish, dawg.
But when Bernie, if Bernie were to have had the nomination, These, uh, these good-hearted Republicans who are coming over to our side and voting for Joe Biden would have actually been like, no, Bernie's a communist.
We're going to just vote for Trump again.
Uh, cause we, we actually like his taxes and, and all of that.
And we know, uh, Joe Biden's not going to actually do anything against that.
That is why we had to settle for Joe Biden because he is far more like Donald Trump than Bernie was.
So to get the votes from the right, yeah absolutely.
That's why Joe Biden was, we never know who he was because they had to put him on Barack Obama's ticket to make Barack Obama seem more conservative.
I'm just saying that's why Joe Biden is the better candidate is because he's more like Donald Trump.
Yeah, exactly.
He doesn't have as big of a butt.
That's like the really big difference.
You might be right about this, but I don't think we're ever going to get to find out if the leftist strategy in the general would have worked or not.
Maybe in an alternate timeline.
I don't think the general population would have been as scared of Bernie as if you're taking them on good faith, the Democratic leadership or the Democratic Twitter users said.
But I do think that we wouldn't have the Lincoln Project, for example, if Bernie was the nominee.
Not that that's going to make much of a difference, but in the minds of like the dorkiest Democrats you know, that is a huge windfall for the Democratic Party.
I don't really care.
I'm writing in Ice Cube.
I'm actually, this isn't a lie, I'm going to write in, I'm going to vote for Kamala Harris.
Because I saw a sign, I saw a yard sign that said Kamala Harris and then in parentheses underneath it said and Joe Biden.
Wow.
So for the Democratic ticket, I'm going to vote Kamala Harris for president.
I've been inspired.
That's smart.
That's not a bad idea.
I don't know what I'm going to do yet.
I think she should have made it through the primary.
I think it's unfair that nobody liked her.
I think it's unfair that she was unpopular.
And I think I'm going to try to vindicate her.
There's so much I like about all of the candidates running, it's going to be really hard to decide who to vote for.
Can I vote for just everybody to have a good time?
I think that's called communism and you can't vote for that.
You just have to do it.
I have a gun too.
That's true.
A gun is like a vote if you think about it.
Do you follow Brad Trammell, Jamie, on Instagram?
No, who's that?
He's the preeminent satirist of our time.
You've definitely seen his work, you just probably don't know that it's his work.
It was like, did you see the drawing of MLK playing chess with Trump in heaven?
And all the all the chess pieces are colored different colors.
Wow.
Wait, I need to look this up.
It's Brad Trommel.
T-R-O-E-M-E-L.
Brad Trommel.
On Twitter.
He's been going viral lately.
I am a big fan of his work.
The centrist stuff that he's been doing has been fantastic.
It's been extremely cursed.
I like his like alternative reality social media artwork where he takes like pop artists and edits their work to include pro QAnon messages.
Yes.
And then also edits other people's tweets as a backlash to the pro QAnon.
Messages in their pop art and then edits like statements from the Guggenheim about how they're going to cancel that artist's residency or that artist's show at the Guggenheim and then, because it's pro-Q, and then the Proud Boys march on the streets of New York to ensure safe admission for patriots into the pro-Q and un-Guggenheim exhibit.
That's my favorite series from Brad, but he's been doing great work with centrism and we really appreciate him.
I'm gonna have to do some research after this.
Yeah, what were we talking about?
We were talking about the first meme.
The rock meme.
Yeah.
It's cool.
I like it.
Did you say how Biden was kissing the rock's neck?
Yes, how he's kissing, sniffing his neck.
Absolutely.
That's good.
Yeah, you know, fully automated gay space luxury communism.
That's what this says to me.
I want it.
Yeah.
Everybody gets a good sniff if you, you know, in the world I live in.
Let's skip this second meme.
Let's go to the tweet from Val Venus that I loved.
Which says, from Val Venus, what if I told you the average age of retirement of 65 is insane and should never be considered okay?
So I'm thinking, alright, like this guy's like a right-wing, you know, right-wing, quote, anarchist, ANCAP guy, so he's like, abolish, like, this, like, everybody's retirement, everybody should work for as long as they're valuable, and when they're no longer valuable, they should just, like, you know, die.
No, he means lower the age of retirement, okay?
Hashtag, abolish the Fed.
Hashtag, fix the money supply.
Parentheses, Bitcoin, Digibyte, etc.
You know, all those.
And, hashtag, abolish taxation.
The average age of retirement for average working humans could be lowered to between the age of 35 and 45.
That's so wild.
No explanation of how.
It can be done.
If we just get rid of taxes, we can all retire at 35.
I mean, I'm down with that, hypothetically.
He seems like a real mixed bag, this guy.
But first, to achieve the retirement age of 35 and 45, you would have to abolish taxation.
Move to a purely Bitcoin currency?
So, like, get rid of this, like, fake fiat currency bullshit that's not backed by anything tangible.
Instead, we need to go to a digital currency that generates, like, Actual global warming, you know, that is like literally killing the fucking planet just based on like the amount of server, the servers that are required to compute actual Bitcoin information.
Abolish that and all of us will therefore be able to retire by 35.
Um yeah I mean if you could make that work uh you know there's there's there's some like communists out there who think we need to just abolish the value form full-on and then the retirement age could be lowered to zero right because nobody's doing wage labor anymore but what I think would work better is um you know we just need a new currency made out of um
Doges and pokeballs or whatever and that's how we're gonna do markets.
I think that's smart.
My previous podcast was not very successful, did not have a big following, but we were followed by Dogecoin.
Nice.
Yeah.
So that's a strike in favor of that awful sound, I feel.
See, what I thought where you really went wrong is when you decided to only operate in Dogecoin from then on out.
I think that's what happened.
I think that's why it didn't really... You just mean because like Patreon didn't accept Dogecoin and PayPal didn't accept Dogecoin and my personal bank didn't accept Dogecoin.
I can see how you would say that.
yeah um it's just like yeah get rid of fucking taxation and then we'll all be able to retire like the idea here is like we're able to invest in uh you know the stock market for a retirement once we're not taxed or something yeah none of us are like making enough money to uh
to retire like even if you got rid of taxation even like pre-tax i'm not making enough money to retire no not even close i have a pension associated with my job at work because i'm lucky i'm a union employee so i have an actual pension and then you know i also contribute to like a 401k uh That's not the majority of, uh, you know, wage earners in this country.
And, um, I think it's funny to be like, oh, fiat currency.
It's not based in anything.
It's, it's unfounded, which I mean, sure.
But like to then, to then put all your, your chips in the, uh, Wall Street, in the stock market basket, which is based on even less is, uh, um, you know, Or the Bitcoin basket.
Yeah.
I think at this point it's questionable whether or not it's a good investment.
I think, you know, ten years ago, sure.
But at this point, I don't know.
Well, I mean, you just do what I'm doing, because I know that I'm never going to be able to retire, so I recently did start investing in cigarettes and things that are going to damage my body and hopefully shorten my time here.
And so that's what I'm doing now instead of retirement.
Yeah, well, if they cut your taxes, think of how many more cigarettes you could buy.
That is... and they'd be cheaper, too.
Yeah, that's... God damn it.
They're onto something here.
So, in keeping with, like, anarchism, the real anarchism that Val Venus is talking about, what you should do, Tony, is you should tell your daughter... how old does she know?
She's six?
Seven.
Seven.
Getting up there.
You need to tell your daughter that you are no longer going to fulfill the...
What is it, like the contract that you guys have agreed upon where you would house her and things like that?
You're no longer going to fulfill that contract when it comes time to renew it, like next year, unless she begins studying elder care.
Unless she devotes her life to like inpatient medical care, you're not going to support her any longer.
So kind of like a Teach for America type thing, except for it's like take care of your dad.
Yeah.
I like that idea.
Tip for tat, you know?
And then she has to agree to it.
And it's voluntary.
She doesn't have to agree to it.
She can like, you know, go starve or whatever.
Yeah.
And it's just like, hey, I changed your diapers and one day you're gonna have to change mine.
That's why I had you.
Do you want to read these YouTube comments you got from Top Shelf Anarchy's YouTube videos?
Yeah, so there's a couple good YouTube comments.
One of them, just because his whole general, his general demeanor is just kind of like serious, but also kind of carefree, also kind of funny type thing.
I would say he's like, he's kind of Joker-fied.
Yeah, oh yeah, he has a whole couple videos of the Joker filter on where he just says, taxation is theft.
And it's the Joker filter with him just doing that for, you know, 19 seconds.
He stretches a three-word sentence into 19 seconds.
It's pretty incredible.
You gotta hand it to him.
It's pretty disturbing.
It's pretty disturbing to see.
So, New Anger says, Val, I respect your conviction, but your narrative is too much like a comedy show, and it's taking from the seriousness of the issue, my opinion.
He's saying like, hey, you're being a little too funny.
This is some serious shit going on.
You're being too flippant.
You're being too carefree and wild on here.
Val, these are violent leftists we're talking about.
There's nothing to joke about.
And then, you know, of all people, Jester Nair says, Val's point with all his videos is, quote, the system, statism, is a comedy show.
Is that how it's written, Tony?
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I don't read too many comments.
I know.
We're going to get you in the right headspace.
Let's take this from the top.
I apologize.
Val's point with all of his vids is, quote, the system statism is a comedy show!
And he's exposing it for what it is.
I'm laughing?
He's like, Val's laughing at them, not with them.
We're making fun of this comedy that is the statism.
I love this dynamic because New Anger is like Rorschach and Justette Nair is like the comedian.
Exactly.
What's so funny?
Well, it is all funny.
Yeah, sometimes when you finally, you know, being young is, if you're not young and you don't idolize Rorschach, you're probably an SJW.
If you're not old and you don't idolize the comedian, you're probably, again, an SJW.
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what this guy's politics are, besides the fact that we should be allowed to smoke weed, which I think everyone agrees with.
Who could deny that?
it's because like sometimes we get libertarians to call who call in the majority report and stuff and i'm trying to figure i'm trying to figure out what his beef is with the state because i think the right-wing libertarian beef with the state is uh they think it doesn't protect private property enough right it's too redistributive
it expropriates your wealth which you made all by yourself and was in no way created by society or the state to begin with right doesn't let you buy women yeah whereas the left libertarian yeah i mean women children whatever it's libertarians we're talking about here right uh And then the left libertarian or anarchist... Sorry, sorry, I need to correct you, Jamie.
The idea of children is a social construct, okay?
It's a social construct that was like for Foisted on us by the nanny state who is concerned with, you know, age of consent laws.
In nature, there's no such thing as a child.
No, fair enough.
Those are all good points there.
Thank you.
Thank you for your intervention.
But like the left, the left is beef with the state.
And you know, this is true of not just anarchists, but communists as well.
Their issue with the bourgeois state is that it actually serves to protect private property and enforce the rule of the bourgeoisie class over the workers.
You're talking about those cops.
Yeah.
So how do you square that circle, Mr. Venus?
See, I don't think he's an anarchist.
I think he's a thought anarchist.
This is thought anarchy.
So it's not so much that he's an anarchist, it's just that there's no order to his thoughts.
They're just everywhere.
There's no hierarchy to his thoughts.
All thoughts are equal.
Yeah, there's no hierarchy or order to his thoughts.
They're just kind of going around everywhere.
I think this next comment is a perfect way to leave the segment and the show.
And this is lovely, because I like it when we can tie the two topics together.
This is always the best way to do it.
Jack Payne's Food Payne says, My wife used to get wet watching you wrestle.
Dot, dot, dot.
Dot, dot, dot.
Yeah.
Two upvotes.
Two people like this.
I'm still like, I don't know, I don't know what he's saying.
I don't know if he's like disappointed because like, my wife used to get wet watching you wrestle and now you're doing this.
You're pathetic.
I mean.
Yeah, like I don't even want you to cuck me now.
Yeah, maybe he's just letting you know that, hey, just a little, just a little aside.
Thought you should know.
My wife.
My wife used to get wet watching you wrestle.
I like that his avatar is a gorilla.
I like that.
Gorilla mindset.
Something to consider all the fellas out there.
I also like that there's two upvotes to this.
I like that two people read this comment.
Hey, this dude's wife used to get wet watching this other dude wrestle.
Alright, I support that.
This dude's wrestling was a lot like saying you're pro-life.
Oh shit.
I just had the same effect.
This is like a dudes rock comment section.
Like, it's just dudes supporting dudes.
Jack is like, my wife, like, she got real fucking horned up when she watched you wrestle.
And then two other dudes are like, yeah, man, that's cool.
Yeah.
We see you.
We hear you.
You're valid.
Thank you so much, Jamie, for joining Minion Death Cult today.
We loved having you here.
Thank you for having me.
Anytime.
Your show is a delight.
Thank you so much.
Please, please plug your delightful shows.
Uh, yeah.
So, um, I do a podcast called The Antifada with two other people and it's about communism and things related to communism.
It's about being a pro-life goth.
Exactly.
Big fans of The Antifada.
Huge fans.
Well, thank you.
Um, yeah, you can find that at patreon.com slash the anti-fata.
Hell yeah.
All right.
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