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Oct. 19, 2020 - Minion Death Cult
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Five Finger Death Cult w/Bryan Quinby

This week Bryan from Street Fight Radio helps us cover the Facebook boomer fever dream that is Five Finger Death Punch's new video for "Living The Dream." Filled with beloved standards like Tide Pods, Communistic Mask Guidelines, and Antifa as the literal dogs of the elite, Living the Dream is another butt rock / metalcore masterpiece from the Troopsiest band in the world. Support Street Fight Radio and hear their Shocktober and 100 Million Tons of Steel miniseries at https://www.patreon.com/streetfightradio  Support Minion Death Cult and get a bonus episode every week at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult 

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The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... Conservative humor gone awry is going to fascistphonia today, so stay tuned.
We're going to take a few pictures of the desert and how their policies are actually messing it up.
It's not beautiful when you go across that border.
Stay tuned guys.
We'll show you exactly what it looks like when people are going to get you.
Oh, they're in Bartholstein.
Stay tuned.
Everybody recording?
I am right now, yep.
Hey real quick, is that the High on Fire shirt?
Yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Okay, that's all.
Mine's the Deadpool Nike knockoff.
What does it say?
Just hit it?
Hell yeah.
Deadpool with a weed leaf swoosh and it's weed for some reason.
I love it.
Literally the coolest shirt I've ever bought.
Dude, I bet Deadpool does smoke weed.
Oh god, he's a twisted dude, man.
I'm Alexander Edward.
And I'm Tony Boswell.
And we are Minion Death Cult.
The world is ending.
New Metal is responsible.
We're documenting it.
What's up, everybody?
I hope you're all doing okay.
If I sound different or weird, it is because I'm sick.
But don't worry, I'm drinking a hot toddy right now, so I just assume I'll be 100% better about halfway through this episode.
Yes, absolutely.
Your throat will be thoroughly coated, and you'll be ready to party.
I don't think it's COVID because I've never worn a mask.
And I think that's how you get COVID.
Yeah, through the mask.
It's from the mask.
So I think we're good to go.
Joining us today, we have Brian Quimby from Street Fight Radio, who is joining us for his expertise in nu metal itself.
Thank you so much, Brian, for joining us.
I felt bad all day yesterday because I invited myself on your show.
So I'm just letting the listeners know that I invited myself on.
Well it's a funny story because you invited yourself on the episode on my personal Twitter account.
Like you DM'd me and Tony on my personal account and I'm like never on there.
So I was just on the Minion Death Cult account posting about Five Finger Death Punch.
And I was like, okay, we got to do an episode on it.
Like, first of all, Tony, watch this music video.
And of course, we are talking about the music video for Living the Dream today.
Yes.
Captain America, are you off to fight the bad guys?
A mighty Superman, can you save us from ourselves?
I messaged, I, uh, what is it called?
I messaged, I messaged Tony and I said, watch this video immediately.
It's an episode.
And then I was like, Tony was like working or whatever, doing something stupid.
And so I, he like wasn't responding to me and I was just like typing at him and I was like, all right, who's, who do we know that's a podcaster that's into metal that we can invite on this episode?
And I like spit out a couple ideas and then I was like, oh, well, I guess Street Fight's the obvious choice here.
Yeah.
Considering Brian does both the POD cast and has just lived through that era of Nu Metal.
And I was like, and also the Street Fight Patreon is, you know, did the One Million Tons of Steel miniseries... Wrong.
What is it?
Wrong.
100 million tons of steel.
It's an unwieldy name.
It's 100 million tons of steel?
Yeah, 100 million tons of steel.
You should hear what the one after Shocktober is called.
It's even worse.
It's about Shane Black movies.
I'm gonna watch a bunch of Shane Black movies and I'm calling it Shane in parentheses, Black, and then is in parentheses, number one.
So it's Black number one.
Like my favorite band, Type O Negative.
That's so stupid.
I love giving them bad names, you know?
I love like a long, unwieldy fucking name.
I think the band name for this band is a fucking unwieldy name, you know?
Yeah, so obviously I was like, just to finish the story really quick, I was like, okay, yeah, Street Fight's the obvious choice.
And then later on I switched to my personal Twitter and it was Brian saying, you know, if you need a new metal expert to cover Five Finger Death Punch, I'm your guy.
I am.
There it is.
I like, if I hear about nu metal stuff, I, you know, I do have my own nu metal podcast that I can talk about stuff on, but it's got like kind of a tight format or whatever.
And it's not, it's like totally no politics kind of show.
And this video warrants politics.
This video is politics and I don't want to bring that part of my thing over to the POD cast.
I want it to be like a pure comedy show.
So when something like this happens in In metal, in wrestling, I just sit around and think like, whose podcast could have me on to talk about this?
Where can I talk about this?
Like this was, this was such a special video to me.
I needed to talk, you know, I needed this.
I needed the outlet to talk about this video because like, This thing is special.
This is like, I haven't been this excited for a music video since probably 1998 or something.
This is like the most Facebook music video I think I've ever seen.
We talked about Drive Angry a few weeks ago, which is the most Facebook movie.
I think this is the most Facebook music video I've seen.
It's just not very good.
It's nowhere near as good as Drive Angry.
But still, I don't know.
Like I said on Twitter, it's a boomer fever dream of Facebook memes that your cousin is going to share with you, thinking that he is a boomer.
You know, your cousin who's like 31 years old is going to share any piece of this music video and blame it on the Millennials.
Yeah, absolutely.
I want to say that this video, right, politically disaster, is bad, okay?
It's not bad to the bone like George Thurgood.
It's got bad politics, right?
Good video, basically.
I mean, it seems like they sunk a bunch of fucking money into it.
That's the thing.
Like, I'm making a TV show right now, and I looked at this video and I was like, man, they fucking really made the- they really went for it.
It's astoundingly fucking stupid, but they really went for it, like, money-wise.
Didn't you feel like this was, like, their passion project?
Because it's not gonna make them anything.
Nothing's gonna happen for them.
To this video.
I was having this conversation with my wife.
I said, do you think your dad is really into five-finger death punch now?
Because I can't imagine who's gonna get into him because of this, you know?
Yeah, in fact, I saw a lot of comments from, like, people who were like, uh, okay, this is where I get off the Five Finger Death Punch train.
Like, this genuinely turned people away from Five Finger Death Punch, which is, like, astounding to me given how terrible I think they've always been.
Yeah, they've always been, like, a punchline to me.
Like, I've always thought they were kind of a joke.
Um, I've always... I've always thought they were kind of a joke, um...
But this just kind of solidified it for me and it was really funny to see it come to fruition.
This is the punchline that I've been making about them for years now.
What is your experience with Five Finger Death Punch, Brian?
Because I know them as the Troops Band.
I know them as the Troops Band who covered Bad Company with that fake deep voice that the guy does.
That's all I know about them.
I mean, the thing about this genre of music is it's very nu metal adjacent.
It's more adjacent because it's not, you know, it doesn't have any of the hallmarks of nu metal, right?
But it came out of that time.
It's this radio rock thing where, like, there were all these bands, these Breaking Benjamins, these Seethers.
Just bands where I could name five or ten of them and neither one of you would be able to name a song by them.
You know what I mean?
Like if I said Star Set, you'd be like, what the fuck is that?
You know?
And then you go, I tell a story about a skillet, you know?
I don't know a fucking single skillet song, but in my mind I know what they sound like.
And one day I walked by our large, It's not a mid-sized venue.
It's just below, you know, the 5,000 seaters.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know what I mean.
Like for outdoors.
And the line was wrapped all the way around the building, down the street and shit.
And I was like, who listens to Skillet?
You know?
And Five Finger Death Punch, to me, has always just been skillet.
It's a who listens to this shit, you know?
A lot of people.
Lots of people.
I've seen the shirts longer than I've heard the music.
I've never actually heard the music until this, but I've always seen the shirts on, like, the cringiest people.
Yeah.
When you trap the troops, I think when people are like, this band's really big for the troops, it's just because they trap a bunch of guys in the desert and there's nothing to do for months.
And then the troops are just amped about the whole thing.
You know, comedians always say it too.
Oh, you know, I love performing for the troops.
They don't, you know, they, they, uh, appreciate everything we do.
And I think like, There is like a solid business plan and being the band that's like, oh I love the troops because then you get that USO money.
You know?
Sure.
There was an article that mentioned that like they made a bunch of money off the military.
That Five Finger Death Punch has made a ton of money and they're a really weird band because like, do you guys remember the band Madison Rising?
Oh yeah, the most patriotic band in America.
No way.
But they're not as big as Five Finger Death Punch.
Five Finger Death Punch is mainstream big.
Well the name and everything it is like it's epic bacon vibes it's like it has an epic bacon energy to it and it is the name like oh you know you know they mean business listen to the name they're gonna punch you in the face and kill you with all five fingers.
But they don't do that.
I'm not afraid of a band who can't even properly hyphenate their own name Tony I'm sorry.
I like that even more.
There should be a hyphen between five and finger as far as I'm concerned and as far as uh you know Strunk and Wagnall are concerned as well.
But I mean, everyone knows I'm a huge fan of typos.
I think it makes the material more raw, more real.
Like, I mean things because of my typos and people should know that.
I hate typos because sometimes you go viral with one and you're like, I don't want to delete that tweet, but I really want to delete that tweet.
That sounds like more of an at murder Brian problem than an at murder ex Brian problem.
Hey, murder ex Brian is happy, much happier than murder Brian.
You know what I mean?
Sure.
I mean, I'd like all my followers back.
Thank you.
So, if you're listening, you know, I'd like my other 18,000 followers to come back.
I always say that the reason I don't have things go viral is because of my learning disabilities.
I mean, if you post about metal, like, Four times out of ten you'll get a viral tweet because people just love metal.
You know?
They maybe don't love the music.
They don't like listen to it all the time.
But they love the aesthetic.
Five Finger Death Punch though is like family guy aesthetic.
So I don't like it.
it's the the aesthetic is so fucking bad like just their logo is so bad because it's the skull but it's like the wonky like edgy skull that looks kind of like the the blind skateboard skull you know where it's got like pronounced eyebrows and it's got like a tweaked mouth and shit i hate that shit like give me Give me a real skull.
Give me like a photorealistic skull or like a skull that looks like it's been scratched on the inside of an insane asylum.
Give me one of those two skulls.
Don't give me this like cartoon alien bugle boy skull.
No, I like a buck-toothed skull with a nice blue stripe through it.
I gotta look at their skull now.
I, you know, back in the day, you know how I discovered that they were bad?
And this is right around the time... It wasn't by listening to them?
It was some other research you did?
I would never.
Yeah, I would never.
You know how I am about bad stuff.
You were in a van with me for two weeks.
If something sucks, I'm fucking the first person there like, yeah, right on!
Me and Brett were like telling our family, you gotta see this video.
You know?
You gotta see this.
And we gathered them all in the living room.
Even my daughter and our two wives.
And we all sat down and we watched the video and our wives were like bummed out by it.
My kid was bummed out by it.
Me and Brett were like, isn't it fucking great, man?
This is a great video.
You know, and they were like, real people believe this.
And I'm like, I know that's the world we live in, though.
Like, I always have to explain to people like when they see something like this and they're like, I hate this, you know, or whatever.
And you're like, This is the world we live in.
It's like when George Floyd happened, it's like that is America.
You can't say this is not America, because that's exactly what it fucking is.
There are dads in America who did exactly what you did, except it was to show them to be like, ain't that the truth?
Look at this.
They're talking for us.
You listen to Ivan Moody when he tells you to take a look around.
Um, let's get into the video because we're kind of talking around the video.
Um, the song itself is like, like you said, Brian, it's not, it's not quite, uh, new metal.
It's more like, uh, butt rock with like late 2000s metal core sprinkled in.
So like, people are comparing this to like, Nickelback or Creed and I say that's like an insult to both of those bands unironically like I think Nickelback is like genuinely has a dynamism to like the singing and music that this band lacks which is fine you don't necessarily need a dynamic if you're playing good metal this band is not it's very much in like the the post-grunge butt rock
type genre, like a Seether, like you said, and then it erupts into more of a Killswitch Engage type metal, which is kind of like, I think, Patient Zero for this whole scene.
Every metal band around that does the melodic thing and the breakdown, but skips the dubstep, that skips the electronic stuff, I think you can trace that back to Killswitch Engage.
Yeah absolutely.
I have been for two days walking around my house saying, they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
It's kind of catchy.
But you gotta like affect a deeper voice than your own when you say that.
They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
It has like a shanty vibe.
It sounds like a shanty.
I'm looking at You know, to help people out, you know what I do when a band, when I'm trying to describe a band, this happens on the PODcast a lot, you go to Google and you type their name in and then look at people also searched for.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Let's hear it.
Bad Wolves, Bad Wolves, a band that nobody's ever heard.
You cannot convince me that anybody's ever heard bad words.
I think I've seen that logo.
I think their logo looks kind of like graffiti but like single like paint like a like a big paintbrush like a big cartoon paintbrush.
It looks like graffiti painted with a big paintbrush.
If somebody came up to me and said, I'm a big Bad Wolves fan, I would call him a liar.
I would say, no, nope, nope, nobody's that.
Bad Wolves, that's like rockabilly, right?
Bad Wolves like toured with Stray Cats, right?
Is that a thing?
Sounds right.
This all falls under what I like to call, it's like nu metal, but it's dude metal and there's umblouts over the u. And that kind of gets the point across of what it sounds like to me.
I like that.
I think of it like, I just learned what butt rock is, like a month or two ago.
But you've always known.
You just learned.
But, I mean, really, what is butt rock?
It's a feeling.
People have been saying it for years to describe every kind of rock music, and you kind of try to figure it out.
When you look at this list, right, we go to Disturbed.
That's nu metal.
I don't know if that's butt rock.
It might be butt rock, but it's nu metal.
Disturbed is nu metal, yeah.
But Shinedown, Shinedown, butt rock, I believe.
What song does Shinedown do?
You gotta remind me.
Oh, I will never know that.
I'll Google them now and see what their hit is.
Because all I can think of is that song that's like, heaven let your light shine down.
No, that's Collective Soul.
Yeah.
Which is maybe Butt Rock.
I don't know what song their hit is.
So, Butt Rock, this was my theory when I was doing that awful sound.
This was my theory.
Butt Rock is just post grunge.
Everything where the singer tries to sound like Nirvana, that's Butt Rock.
Everything where the singer... What's that?
Is it metal though?
No.
You know, are they trying to do metal or hard rock?
They're trying to do hard rock.
They're trying to do like emotional masculine rock.
That's what fun rock is.
It's that nasal crooning.
It's Eddie Vedder's legacy and he hates it.
I feel bad for him.
Puddle of Mud is like the archetypal butt rock band.
Because that guy wishes he was Kurt Cobain so badly.
And there's a different genre which is Cock Rock.
Cock Rock is like Velvet Revolver.
rock that's good i actually wanted is is like is like velvet revolver yeah that's when a butt that's when a butt gets too like into itself and it becomes a cop you know what's funny alex is that like because i toured with you guys when i when somebody called something butt rock recently i was going to text you and say hey dude
can you tell me what butt rock is because i didn't understand it and i i didn't end up doing it but uh uh you're my expert on this stuff so you have really solidified what it is in my head and uh uh you know what i mean what i mean Yeah, you're the expert on music, dude.
You know, I'm here because I listen to bad music.
You're here because you're an expert and it's your podcast.
That's right.
The music video starts off with like a epigraph.
What is this shit called?
Where it's like an introductory quote to the music video that splashes on screen that says, fiction reveals truth that reality obscures.
Insane, by the way.
And I think this was Kurt Cobain who said this.
And I also saw another Facebook quote from Kurt Cobain that I'll relay right now.
It said, quote, I think one day a real band will come and save the music industry.
And as crazy as it sounds, it might be someone like Five Finger Death Punch who backs the Troops and the Blue.
Oh, okay.
One of them's a cop.
Did you guys know that?
Yeah, the drummer.
Yeah, the drummer's like a volunteer cop.
So he's like how Shaq is a cop and Steven Seagal is a cop.
Yeah, but it's five finger death punch though.
That's what bums me out, is that like the whole middle of the country fucking loves this stuff.
You know, this music, even where I live, It's like there is a whole radio station dedicated to just playing this music and it's fucking terrible.
It's like there are so many Hailstorm fans in Columbus, Ohio.
There are so many Flyleaf fans.
This video probably really did hit him hard and said like, You know how people are about politics.
They'll just say, like, this isn't political.
I mean, this is fun.
Why are you bringing politics into music?
And you're like, because they did it!
The excuse here is that everything's a metaphor.
And if you're getting mad at it, then you don't know what a metaphor is.
Yeah.
And the first metaphor we get is we get like an intro riff, you know, the heavy like guitar, the sick guitar.
And then we get video of zombies twitching and staggering.
And then we zoom out to reveal that what they're pushing shopping carts full of toilet paper.
Crazy.
Crazy.
I get that.
A meme from six months ago.
Yeah, it feels like a lifetime ago though.
It took me a second, I was like, toilet paper?
That's from forever ago.
Nope, that was like six months ago.
Why didn't they have the Tiger King in the video?
They should have put the Tiger King.
Yeah, somebody should have been like holding a sign, like one of the protesters should have been holding a sign that said, fuck Carole Baskin.
You know, that might be in there.
We just got to maybe watch it a few more times.
Um, and then the lyrics here are, uh, Captain America, are you off to fight the bad guys?
Hey mighty Superman, can you save us from ourselves?
And on screen after the zombies, uh, we get footage of a guy in like a Captain America suit who's like pudgy and overweight.
Uh, he actually looks a lot like, um, I can't remember his name but In the new black, the guy from Stranger Things, who was also in Hellboy.
Oh yeah, I know who you are.
He's playing like a Soviet superhero in the Black Widow movie called, I think, Redguard or something.
And this guy looks like him in that Captain America suit.
And he is Snorting Blow.
Captain America is Snorting Blow.
Yeah.
This is interesting to me because me and my wife were trying to take this video apart last night when we were out walking.
I know.
Thank you for the effort you put towards this episode.
You just like involved your whole family in the process.
It's good.
I just want to be in that conversation, just like walking behind you guys listening.
Yeah.
I mean, there's all these people out and around, you know, riding scooters by and they're like, uh, what, I wonder what this couple that's holding hands is talking about.
And it's like, Do you think that Captain America is a podcaster, a millennial?
Like, why is he doing Blow?
That's all I could think was that Captain America was meant to be a podcaster because he's doing Blow, like basement hero, you know?
Mom's basement, SJW hero.
Because podcasters do do coke.
Like all the lefty podcasters love coke.
You guys have seen it.
I've heard of those things.
I've heard that they like coke.
I don't listen to leftist podcasts.
I just like the way they smell.
But do you guys think, like what, I was excited to do this because I really, maybe I don't understand metaphors at all, but I truly couldn't figure out what they were saying with Captain America doing blow, you know?
Yeah, go ahead Tony.
This whole thing though, so first of all, the way that this scene looks, I really like the way this scene looks.
It's like a comical, they're clearly wearing Halloween costumes.
It's not a very high quality costume.
And it kind of looks kind of fun.
But one thing they do in this video is they have so many things going on.
They have so many things going on that they try to bring together, but none of it actually fleshes out into anything.
It's all so close, and the coke is one of those things.
He's a real slob, he's a real mess.
So I have a theory about the coke.
Before we get into the other thing that I know you want to talk about, Tony.
We get it, Ivan Moody, singer of Five Finger Death Punch, you went to rehab and now doing coke is bad.
That's what it is.
Ivan Moody, singer for Five Finger Death Punch, is a notorious abuser of women who went to rehab and describes this album as his absolution.
Wow.
I have a quote here from, which is amazing.
This is a quote, I found this on Wikipedia.
So the album is called Fate, by the way.
This album.
How do you spell that?
How do you think?
F and the number 8.
Oh, okay, okay.
I was going to go with F-A-I-T because it's like faith too, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Like you could be like, oh, you know, it's fate, but I have faith.
I love that license plate.
It's going to be a five finger death punch license plate, but it's going to be F8 finger death punch.
That's cool though.
I just like that they just stole the title of a Fast and Furious movie.
I think that's amazing.
You know all punches take five fingers too.
That's something I've been thinking about for like four days now.
It's like, it would be impressive if it was a one-finger death punch, but five fingers, like everybody that punches uses five fingers to do it.
No man, that's actually very ableist.
Well, you know.
There's many a butcher that can still punch you real good.
No, I have a perfect Facebook meme for this.
Did you know that most of humanity only use 10% of their fingers when they punch?
Yeah.
I mean, the coke is the most confusing part of this video to me.
I just think it's bad.
I just think it's meant to be bad because, like, really, it's just he looks like a slob and he's doing coke, so it's bad.
Yeah I guess but I feel like they were working really hard on the metaphors in this.
Like yeah you know it was very all ham-handed.
Superman is because the other line is hey mighty Superman can you save us from ourselves and then we see a guy in a Superman costume scarfing down hot dogs and squirting mustard into his mouth and it's like spraying all over his belly and shit.
Yeah.
And it's it What this music video to me is like and I think it'll be become clearer as we go through it It's this like doublespeak that patriotic like right-wing people have to do which is America is bad and America is good like yes America is awful, but America is great at the same time and it's and with a band like I know.
or death punch where these are your lyrics.
You don't ever have to try and like rectify that contradiction or explain that contradiction.
You just dance between the two the whole time.
And it also gets back to their album called American capitalist.
I know that I didn't, I didn't know that they had an album called American capitalist.
Uh, and I was like, Holy shit.
Like maybe that's a, that's a separate episode.
Uh, But I looked back at it, and I looked at the lyrics for American Capitalist, and they're all trying to do this tongue-in-cheek thing where it's like, I'm sad because I'm so rich as a capitalist.
Like that's what it is is you're trying to you're trying to have it both ways and with their connection to the troops with them writing songs for the troops it just reminds me of like I think it was a tweet or something where it's like all American movies about war are like I did war crimes and now I'm sad about it.
That's what this band is.
It's like I'm a troop and I'm sad because I did troop shit and it's like it never has to have a catharsis or a resolution to it.
It's just it's both things at once.
It's glorifying the capitalism by a heavy breakdown and then noting that there's like oh yeah but there's like a there's like a little twinge of guilt sprinkled in there that there's homeless people or whatever.
There are, I mean, that's something about metal bands though, new metal, adjacent bands, is all of them have an album about how being rich and famous is hard.
You know, Korn started it with Issues and then, and Got the Life.
Got the Life.
Got the Life.
Yeah, and what Got the Life is saying is like, you know, everybody's telling me I got the life, but I hate it.
I'm miserable, you know, and American capitalism might just be as simple as this is because I think naming your album American Capitalist, that is the point where I've realized these guys are super cynical and maybe they even like they knew the kind of exact kind of music you have to play.
To get invited to do USO tours and shit.
And I do wonder, like, what the early albums sounded like.
Because when they first came out on the scene, you know, I never listened to them, but when they first came out on the scene, it was said that they were a very heavy band, you know?
Like, did they start out as metal?
You know, I don't really know.
Well, there's metal parts in this song.
That's true.
I think they've always been a heavy band with feelings or however you want to classify the masculine version of having emotions in your music or whatever.
But it's just like, there's songs about Like how it's hard to be successful or it's that's not quite what American capitalist about is about it's more just like what do you call it like an exploration of somebody who is an unflinching American capitalist and it's like pointing out how I'm badass and like only the strong survive and this that and the other But it's like, oh, I sacrificed like my family in this pursuit or something like that.
It's it never like actually condemns capitalism or even like notices the actual problems with capitalism.
The problems are more like, I'm up on this throne and I'm so lonely or something.
I know the feeling.
But, like, when other bands criticize being, uh, you know, successful or whatever, like, again, to reference Nirvana, like, In Bloom is about how, like, oh, our audience, like, they don't get it.
Like, our audience, they really, they like the stuff with the word rape in it because they, like, think it's funny.
Yeah, they're missing the point.
Yeah.
True.
Um, so...
Another, a line in right here, Hey Mighty Superman, can you save us from ourselves?
I think is like indicative of what they're talking about.
Like America is good, but Americans are bad.
Like, yeah, you know what I mean?
And it's almost like a fascist ideology if I want to get super serious about this, because it is like we should turn this force we have for good within.
We should turn this like physical force that we have.
Yes.
Against our own population who's too fat, who's too addicted to drugs, and actually make it great.
Yeah, it is that we've become bad and we've allowed it to become bad, so now it's up to us to make it good again.
And it is through, like, we gotta up the standards, we gotta clean it up.
Right.
Yeah, go ahead.
It's such a boring thing.
It's a boring ideology to have, to be forceful with.
Everybody should clean up their act.
Nobody should do drugs.
Nobody should have fun.
Nobody should do anything.
We should all just be sitting around respecting people.
Like the troops and shit.
You know what I mean?
People that are betters.
That's the thing about a lot of conservative shit.
It's about respecting people that are better than you.
And that's what they like to do.
Yeah, it's about like respecting the hierarchy.
And it's funny because this song, this music video comes out right as like, you know, the pictures of Hunter Biden with a crack mouth, with a crack pipe in his mouth come out.
You know, it's like, it's very funny that this is like what, you know, the sort of populist message is now that like Biden's son is an addict.
It's the faux populist message, I should say.
And I just, you know, I think it's cool.
I think it's cool to be in a Captain America suit doing Blow.
We see a guy in an Iron Man costume whose, like, mask is half broken, I think, as like it was in Endgame.
Incredible.
That is such an amazing callback.
at the mouth, presumably overdosing on some unknown substance until we pan down to see a Tide pod roll out of his sagging fingers.
Incredible.
That is such an amazing callback.
That was years ago now?
Yeah.
At least a year and a half ago now, right?
At least.
It's been probably two years.
Jesus.
I mean, it's really funny.
This is the moment where I said, this is a video for me.
This is what I want to see.
Like, this is pure...
Conservatism.
This is what it is, you know.
It's like, uh, uh, uh, old.
Very old.
It's for old people.
And, and this was also the thing, this was where I was telling you, this is where what I was saying was like, Who is going, once this scene happens, who is going to go buy a five, or listen to a Five Finger Death Punch album?
Are 65 year old people going to go listen to a Five Finger Death Punch album?
No, this is again, this is like music for Millennials who don't think of themselves as Millennials.
Yes.
True.
Okay.
They want to separate themselves from that.
They're better than other Millennials.
And the other thing about this demographic you got to remember is that Now what's going to happen is for every person that says, oh, they lost me now, I'm no longer a fan because of this video, the other people are going to now buy more shirts just despite that.
Like they're going to just double down on the merch just like they all do with the Trump stuff too.
It's a good point because I got off of Facebook and back in the day, you know, I shared a lot of Facebook stuff too.
That was like an early Murder Brian thing.
And, uh, I stopped.
But it is a good point that, like, there's this whole contingency of, like, Millennials and Zoomers and just young people who are like, I'm ashamed of my generation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not like other Millennials.
Yeah.
You totally forget about that if you're not there.
You know, I've totally forgotten that that exists.
And you're totally fucking right that it's like, There are 65-year-old 20-year-olds out there and that's who loves this stuff.
I don't know exactly how old Five Finger Death Punch is but some of them probably are like millennial Xers.
Yeah, they started in 2005, so would you usually say like probably 21, 22 when a band hits, maybe?
I started a band in 2005 when I was 18, so 17.
Okay, yeah, I guess they could be 18, 19 years old.
They don't have, oh, Ivan does have his own individual page.
Yeah, he's from like Motograder.
Motograder.
Yeah.
See, that's one of those things.
When me and Brett were touring with you guys, you guys would be saying band names and we'd be like, yeah man, sure.
I just heard of them.
I think they're like Devil Driver.
I don't know what they are.
Yeah.
Birthday, January 7th, 19... These guys are my age.
These guys are exactly my age.
I was born in 79, January 1979.
So they're 40.
They're like late Xers.
- They're 40. - They're like late Xers, like young Xers.
- Yeah, that's sad to me.
This is really sad.
But this is also how a lot of people ended up that I grew up with.
Like, they ended up this guy too, you know?
This video is gonna appeal to those people too.
We get the pre-chorus, according to Genius, which is... Take a look around.
Just take a look around.
And, uh, no one will look around.
No matter how many times you try to warn them on your timeline, no one will take a look around.
Because we cut next to, like, a sort of induction ceremony where people are lined up to receive a badge of some kind, but it's not the good kind of badge, okay?
No.
Because all of these- Who is this?
All of these people are waiting for their COVID-19 mask, which are being distributed by like a wealthy white lady, older, with pearls, in sort of like a well-kempt Norman Rockwell-style interior.
She's a Hunger Games bad guy.
That's what she looks like.
She's like Hunger Games or Snowpiercer.
It's that archetype of evil lady.
She's Nancy Pelosi.
That was wild to me.
- Yes. - Nancy Pelosi. - Yes, that's wild.
That was wild to me.
I also found it, I don't know, I found that scene also weird because like Five Finger Death Punch, number one, they sell masks on their website.
Amazing.
Which is American capitalist shit.
They sell a three pack of masks on their website for $60.
$60 fucking dollars?
Incredible.
For how many?
I just bought good masks.
For three?
I just bought, for 30 bucks, I just bought six of the best masks in the world.
Like, I just bought, uh, uh, I don't know if you guys have heard of these, but they're called Uniqlo Airism masks.
I'm not trying to do a commercial for them, but they're fucking great.
And you can get three for 15 bucks.
And, uh, you can breathe very well in them.
I'm not a conservative who doesn't think you can breathe in a cloth mask, but I do think, like, something, something a little better.
Like, the, the blue masks are good too.
But, like, It is odd for anybody to come out anti-mask but I also was just in the suburbs the other day and I was the only fucking person wearing a mask in a gas station.
I like walked in there and it was just like if you're not in the city nobody's wearing one.
That's why it's ripping through the suburbs.
The all-time best mask I've seen in person was an InfoWars mask.
Yeah, I saw someone wearing an InfoWars mask at the local health food market because that's an interesting overlay of demographic.
Did we talk about that, Tony, on the show?
You just brought out the famous conservative hippie.
I love it!
Yeah, the conservative hippie's a thing.
I've been trying to get people to find me conservative hippies because I do sort of feel like there's this class of hippie that is like anti-vax.
Yeah.
But they're also like Trump people.
There's a lot of them that are Trump people.
They live the vegan lifestyle and all that stuff.
And, uh, but they just, you know, they vote for Trump and they hate minorities.
QAnon is the synthesis of that.
QAnon brought, like, all those people together because it brought in all the, like, woo-woo moms who do multi-level marketing or who, like, teach yoga on FaceTime or whatever into, like, the save the children umbrella.
Yeah, yeah.
I need to look into the Save the Children.
I don't know shit about it.
Sorry, I misspoke.
You want to look for the Save Our Children movement because the Save the Children movement was unfortunately started by pedophiles, we found out.
Yeah, and they wanted us to get that Kony dude, right?
I'm not sure.
I think Save the Children is a hashtag that was like, what do you call it, trademarked by Bill Gates or some other high-level punk pedophile, and they tried to trick all of us into using that hashtag, but you gotta use the Save Our Children hashtag.
Yeah, Save Our Children, there's a lot of wrestlers in it.
No way.
Yeah.
I got a ton of them, dude.
They're weird.
It's a CrossFit thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a ton of pro wrestlers are like Save Our Children guys.
I can send you guys some links to some of their stuff if you would like.
Oh, please.
I bet you there's a lot of wrestlers that also fucking love Five Finger Death Punch.
I don't know.
I think so.
Yes.
They did have the theme song for WrestleMania 22, I believe.
I did see that incredible so getting back to this music video this woman this Hunger Games villain villain s this Nancy Pelosi stand-in is giving masks to willing participants who are standing sort of at attention up against a wall and it's it's very much like you know welcome to the flock sort of situation and And the last one to accept the mask is sort of like a statuesque white male who is our protagonist.
Looks a lot like Stuart Wellington from The Flophouse.
But I think that guy listens to Good Metal, so it's probably not him.
And he accepts the mask and puts it on.
And then in exchange for wearing the mask, He, the villainess, the politician lady, pins a pin on his chest that says something like, I kneeled, and then it's got hammers and sickles on it.
It's got communist symbols all over it.
I thought it said compliant.
Same thing.
The pins were awesome.
The ones that said compliant had a hammer and sickle, and then hers said exempt and looked like a Chinese flag.
That was the whole thing.
Yeah, Chinese flag is exempt.
It's not even metaphors of this porn symbol, it's just great good old-fashioned propagandists.
Brett wanted to put those buttons in the store to be a prick.
The five-finger death punch.
But I like this scene a lot because I find anti-mask people to be the biggest babies on the planet, you know?
Easily.
So finding out that, like you said, the metaphor totally stops.
There's no more metaphor in this video.
Well, there is.
But like, it just then turns into like, hey, if you're wearing a mask, you're a sheeple, which is embarrassing.
But it's also my favorite kind of political statement.
Wake up sheeple is probably the best kind of political statement.
Agreed.
Because it's funny.
So you say it's anti-mask, okay, and that's like what a lot of publications that were covering this story.
I first saw this story, this music video, in the New Metal Shit posting Facebook group that I'm part of, and it was like an IndieWire or a, you know, a PRP article or something that said, you know, The new Five Finger Death Punch video shows people wearing masks as communists, right?
And so, to push back on this notion that Five Finger Death Punch is against masks, Zoltan Bathory, who is the guitarist, that's his real name, I'm sure.
These names are so sick.
I need to see his fuckin' birth certificate.
The long-form birth certificate.
Yeah, I'm gonna go on a thing trying to get his long-form birth certificate.
See, I thought his whole name was, like, appropriation, but with a name like that, maybe... I thought his whole look, I mean, his whole aesthetic was appropriation, but with a name like that, it might be authentic.
He's from, like, Hungary.
He's an immigrant.
He's Hungarian-American or something.
Okay.
But, I mean, if it is a fake name, like Zoltan, like the guy from the Tom Hanks movie?
Yeah.
The fortune teller?
Yeah, Bathory is good, but Zoltan, I don't know about.
So, to push back on this notion that the music video is anti-mask, Zoltan Bathory posted on Facebook.
As much as some, quote, news sites used, quote, anti-mask as a clickbait title, parenthesis, and I must applaud the capitalist in them, or I myself would be a hypocrite.
Let's make this crystal clear.
In a fictional story, amongst shopping cart zombies, Tide Pod eating fat superheroes, and all the other metaphors, why would anyone think the mask scene isn't one?
The scene in question is not about the masks.
It's NOT an anti-mask message.
In fact, you can go to fivefingerdeathpunch.com right now and buy some cool ones.
Dot dot dot.
Yep.
Smiley face.
If I must explain this, the whole video is in the framework of fiction, a dystopian nightmare of one of the founding... I want to skip that because it reveals a twist ending.
Just as I prefaced it, quote, "We as artists have a unique opportunity to portray and ridicule the absurd to prevent it from, quote, becoming reality.
The mask segments are about hypocrisy on the highest level.
When the rules are made for you, but those who made them are exempt." Pretty much the standard in all dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, parentheses, I had the displeasure of growing up in one, hence the reference.
I often say, ask us, the immigrants, dot dot dot, the Cubans, the Venezuelans, the North Koreans, anyone from the former Soviet bloc, dot dot dot, talk to us and we will tell you, space, dot dot dot dot, space.
We were lucky because we had a place to escape to.
We are fortunate that we could come here.
But if America is gone, where will you go?
We immigrants also remember how our freedom slipped away, how our rights were ripped from us, how we were kept under the thumb and in fear of our own governments.
So maybe, just maybe, dot dot dot, we have valuable experience we can tell you about.
We can forewarn you of the things we have seen before.
Blah blah blah.
We must prevent the rise of tyranny in all shapes and forms.
We must resist would-be dictators and the totalitarian ideals.
This is what the Founding Fathers worried about and tried to prevent by creating the Constitution.
Believe it.
America is a miracle and I love this country.
We'll never shut up about it.
Anyway, not anti-mask and if you reduced this entire video to that scene and missed the metaphor behind it, Well, the good news is, it is still America, so you have the right to have and even print your own opinion.
And then, uh, with this post, he accompanied two screenshots from the music video, uh, that circle the exempt button on the villainess's, uh, you know, lapel with an arrow pointing to it.
Can I ask, where does he think America is going to go?
Does he think that the land mass will disappear if it's not America anymore?
Well yeah, America can only exist if you believe in it.
So the second we stop believing it, we'll just fall into a void.
Yeah.
It's weird the way they always say, where will we go if America goes away?
And it's like, fucking, you'll be here is where you'll go.
You're still going to be here.
I promise.
It's not, you're not going to disappear.
What a dingus that guy is.
He's a very big dingus.
I mean, it's like, it's like perfect Facebook dingus because it's like, no, it's a metaphor.
Like I used, uh, I put the mask on a sheep, not because I'm anti mask, but because it's a metaphor.
For what?
What's the metaphor for?
It's a metaphor for having to do something you don't want to do, like wear a mask.
Judging this statement charitably, it's like, oh, we have to go to the absurd to parody so that we don't become absurd, right?
But in this music video, it's just people are being asked to wear masks and they comply.
Right, wearing a mask isn't absurd.
It's like what we're supposed to be fucking doing.
And nobody can force you to wear a mask.
Nobody can literally put a mask on you right now and make you wear it.
And even in the music video, that's not what they're doing.
It's still people volunteering to wear a mask because they get a big shiny button out of it.
And it's like, where is the metaphor here?
Where is the absurdity that's a heightened reality?
And it's like, that's the current reality.
You know, you get a thumbs up from the green grocer for wearing a mask when you walk through the doors, like that's all that it is.
I gotta be honest though, a button is not an incentive for anything for me, right?
Like, I wear a mask because I don't want to die of COVID-19 and I don't want to kill other people.
But let's put this like in another situation where they said something like, you have to wear flip-flops everywhere and they gave you a pin for it.
I'd be like, nah, I'm not gonna do it.
Why don't you give me $300?
That's what, like, actually what I, that's what would get me to do something I don't want to do.
So you're saying for $300, if we were to pay you a weekly stipend of $300, you would live a grounded lifestyle?
I would go barefoot for $300.
Okay.
All right.
A day.
Oh, a day?
See, I was thinking a weekly stipend.
Yeah, no, weekly is just not enough.
Just to get your feet kind of taken care of, handle those calluses.
My feet are beautiful, okay?
That's a $40 feet right there for a pick.
They're kept.
They're always nicely wrapped up and packed away like bubble wrap.
They are.
Tight shoes.
I tie my shoes very tight for people out there.
The thing is, like you said, we should be wearing masks, and the masks are communism, and we should be doing communism, so I don't see the problem with this video yet.
But saying that the mask scene is metaphor of, it's like Alex said, it's like, they're treating it, so okay, this is an absurd situation, and it's like, it's not that absurd, you know?
It's not that wild.
Yeah, people have to wear masks, people are wearing masks, you have to wear masks at places.
The only reason I'd be mad at a button, because I'm like, a button costs as much as a mask, so just give me another mask.
Right.
But they're saying this is a metaphor that's super absurd and shit like that, and it's like, why didn't you use literally anything else if you're not anti-mask?
You know?
Why didn't you use anything else?
I am surprised that they didn't, like, hand out muzzles instead of masks.
See, that would be smart!
Or, like, shock collars.
That's the exact thing that they should have done.
It's silly to make it exactly the kind of masks that a lot of people are wearing.
So we get the chorus now here.
After the pinning ceremony, we get the chorus, which is, they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Aw, Alex, you gotta...
They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
There you go.
What did they never mention?
What's real and what's between?
It seems the path we're on was paved with blood and sorrow.
No thought about tomorrow.
Just part of the machine.
Oh, so it seems.
Yes, so it seems.
We're all living the dream!
We're all living the dream!
Oh, man.
The chorus got me because it's such a dumb guy thing to say.
Oh, well, you know, they say the road to hell is actually paved with good intentions.
Yeah, that's why I'm such an asshole.
All that stuff you do that's good for people and good for you, that's a waste of time.
Yeah, that's what I took away from that adage is that I should be a fucking asshole.
Yeah, I should never do anything nice for anybody.
And I like that we're all living the dream.
I like that they said the name of the song right there.
Yep, there it is.
What if it was that meme that's going around where it's just like, you know, you take a screenshot from a movie and the character says the name of the movie, no matter like what movie it is.
What if they did that for songs, but it's just like actually in every song?
There's just too many of them.
I thought that was one of the reasons.
You know, like most songs say the name.
I feel.
But I think it would be funny if you did that and like failed at the meme.
And then everybody would like bombard you with how bad your meme was.
I think that'd be good.
Yeah.
That's cool though.
Uh, so right here is where we get a shot of a what seems to be prison labor group who are using pickaxes to like break dirt, break up dirt, break up rocks, and they're all wearing jumpsuits in sort of a chain gang.
And eventually we see what's on the back of these prison jumpsuits, which is an American flag, but instead of 50 stars, it's 50 hammer and sickle symbols.
Right.
And we get DJ so fucking sick.
It looks so tight.
We get DJ Qualls in this too.
Yeah, it's pretty much DJ looking like a zombie.
I think it has to be him, right?
Is that him?
I didn't look into it.
I hope not.
I hope he's doing better than this.
Wait, that's, who's DJ Qualls?
Just refresh my memory.
Uh, he was in a bunch of, like, sex movies.
That's not the guy.
That's not the guy.
It's not him?
No, no way.
No.
I thought it was.
D.J.
Coles is the new guy, right?
Yeah.
It's not, no way it's not him.
No.
I'm looking.
I think he's, I think he's doing better.
And he, I think he's taller.
Okay.
Well that's good to hear then.
This is a sick jumpsuit.
Like when I, when I posted about like, it's like coveralls, you know, it's like, when I posted about it, like majority of the response was like, where to cop?
Where can I get these fucking coveralls?
And I would 100% love these coveralls as well, especially because above the flag it says, in a stencil stamp type thing, People's Republic of America.
You sound so sick.
Like when we rename this place, that has to be an option.
I'm into that.
We do not live in a democracy.
We live in a people's republic.
Yeah, I like that, though.
Yeah, you're right.
I wouldn't call it America, though.
Too much baggage tied up in it.
I hate America, so I would probably call it something different, like the People's Republic of... I don't know.
I haven't really thought about it.
What about America-ca-ca?
Ooh.
No, that sounds like we're endorsing the KKK in a way.
It's a confused message.
Yeah, we'll keep workshopping it.
I want to call it Africa 2.
Oh shit, I would do that.
You good with Africa 2?
Africa 2 the squeak wool.
Yes, Africa 2 the squeak wool.
They would be so mad though.
Africa 2 is really good because that would really piss a lot of people off.
And all the libs have to go along with it.
They can't tell me no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's when you get the racist finally admitting that Africa is actually a continent.
It's not a country.
True, true.
I love this thing because it's like we see a guy in a prison labor camp, right?
And it's like, holy shit, like this is such a dystopian nightmare where somebody has to do prison labor and oh, oh, it's because we're communist.
It's because they're communist in this dystopia where prisoners exist, where prison labor exists.
And this is why, again, this is the most Facebook video of all time because it takes something that exists under capitalism and calls it communism.
Yeah.
Something is very real and exists and is a problem and they're like, but it would actually exist under communism.
It's like, nope, it's happening now.
But also this guy, there is a characteristic this prisoner does have and that is that he is a white man.
Yeah.
What do you think he's in prison for?
You think he's in prison for like having sex with a white woman?
Exactly.
He's just making eyes at a white woman.
Yeah.
A white guy?
Yeah, there's only one black dude in this video.
Oh, no, there's a couple.
There's a couple in that last scene.
Oh, true, true.
Actually, no, there's a few throughout.
The next scene coming up right here, there's a few throughout the street.
And I was thinking the whole time, like, damn, they did actually get a lot of black people in this.
I know.
It's funny.
Probably they're on a major label, you know?
Even if you're like a conservative sort of band, you still have to like be diverse.
It's kind of funny.
Well, they're doing the woke like TPUSA thing where we see at least a couple of black people who are wearing masks, but then they leave the Democratic plantation by the end of the music video by taking off their masks.
Yeah, they just show every single one of the black people that they know.
For me it was nice to see zombies and black people on the same picture.
So for me it was good, but you gotta take what you can get sometimes.
I have this video and Lovecraft Country.
What about Fear of the Walking Dead?
Am I wrong about that?
No, I think you're right about that.
That dude I hated from The Walking Dead and I quit watching very quickly, he's on it.
He's a ched, right?
Is he a chud?
One of them's a chud.
No.
Walking dead guy?
It seems like the walking dead guy that's a chud's the motorcycle guy.
You know?
If you have a motorcycle license, you have to vote for Donald Trump.
That's the law.
Unfortunately, I don't think you're that wrong.
Yeah, I know, that's what it feels like.
That's correct, because I actually rode a motorcycle for four or five years without ever getting my motorcycle license.
There you go.
Yeah, I'm surprised you weren't in prison.
I will say, just for the record, Night of the Living Dead does have a black protagonist, so you can watch that one, Tony, if you're also in a similar mood.
Yes.
That is a classic.
It reminds the whole like, "Oh, imagine under communism people will be in prison." Like, we don't have the current, like, largest prison population in the world.
Um, it reminds me of a meme I just saw today, which shows like, two lions side by side.
And one lion is in a cage, and it says, you know, "This lion gets free food, free healthcare, 24 hours a day." And this other lion, nothing is guaranteed.
And it shows like a lion standing proudly on the on the plains or whatever.
And it's like, which lion are you?
And it's just like, how do you how do you make this meme while existing among like the largest prison population in the world under capitalism?
All I see in the Lion meme there is that you thrive without a landlord.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
If my landlord fed me and shit, I'd be more amenable to him, I think.
I probably wouldn't give Lions universal health care.
I'm not fighting for that.
It's not one of the things I'm in for.
You're not going to die on that hill?
No, no, I won't die on universal healthcare for lions.
It's like the thing, I was reading a thing, they said the COVID-19 vaccine could kill a bunch of sharks.
And I was just like, if it means I can go on tour, fuck sharks.
Shark fin soup it is.
But yeah it's just like no we're locking up poor people in this country because by being poor they are like a living contradiction to the idea that capitalism will make you free and so we have to therefore lock them up.
If I'm a lion, too, I want to be the lion at the zoo, because it seems like a more chill lifestyle to me.
You might actually get to smoke a cigarette.
Yeah, yeah.
That'd be great.
Somebody could flick a cigarette in there for you.
When you get a chance, you should watch the documentary Madagascar.
It's about exactly that.
That's a children's movie, Tony.
So, uh, we get the verse two, which is, Hey there, your majesty, is there anyone above you?
It must be lonely when you're up there looking down.
And it's just like, it's just generic stuff about like people being high and mighty.
Uh, hey, hey lady amnesty.
There's no one that can judge you.
We're all just broken toys beneath your crooked crown.
And these lyrics are dog shit, like I'm sorry.
They're so bad.
They're not even like stupid enough to be funny.
It's just like random adjectives, random bad adjective that serves like a common idiom, you know?
A broken toy, a crooked crown, lady amnesty.
Like this is all like- It's a junior high poetry workshop.
Absolutely.
That's really some of the, I mean this is, see this is the kind of stuff though I fall in love with because there is a thing to me about like people who have no skill, no talent, no discernible talent getting really famous.
Just by virtue of like playing the right kind of music at the right time, you know?
And tapping into like a real strain of like, I don't know, maybe not a strain of thought, but like a zone.
A zone that people's minds are in.
Cause broken toy.
I mean, that was another big thing on, not on conservative Facebook, but you know, another section of Facebook that I always enjoyed was, uh, uh, you know, I'm a real sick bastard Facebook.
Like I fucking love that part of Facebook.
And like, I think, uh, That's the other thing that bands like this tap into.
That's like the audience they're going for is I'm a sick sarcastic son of a bitch you know?
Yeah and I mean tapping into or like utilizing a pre-existing idiom or a pre-existing metaphor or whatever is like a it's like a very good shortcut.
One time I ran down like every idiom and adage and like reference that Metallica ever made In all of their songs?
And it's like, it's like a hundred and twenty instances of pre-existing, like, lullabies in the fucking song, you know, Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep, I pray, like, you look at just the song titles of Metallica, Sad But True, like, that's, that's a metaphor already, you know, like, Fade to Black, like, all of these are just pre-existing idioms.
I don't know, better lyrics, like lyrics that aren't necessarily filled with idioms.
I went and looked at a song called The Pride from Five Figure Death Punch.
Oh no.
Much better lyrics, alright?
I have to say.
Oh no.
Much better lyrics because it can only be described as like a Facebook cousin version of We Didn't Start the Fire.
I don't, can I say this?
I don't like white dudes singing about pride ever.
Like that just, even, I get nervous.
Like when you see one of those super Irish bands and you're like, I don't know about this, you know?
And it's American pride.
Like, it's not racist because it's about American pride.
And let me read the lyrics.
The verse is, Johnny Cash and PBR, Jack Daniels, NASCAR, Facebook, MySpace, iPod, Bill Gates, Smith & Wesson, NRA, Firewater, Paleface, Dimebag, Tupac, Heavy Metal, Hip Hop.
Yes!
And the breakdown is, I am all American.
I am living the dream.
Ding, ding, ding.
Living the dream.
A stock phrase, an idiom that is also the title of the music video we're talking about today.
I am living the dream.
I am what you fear most.
Ready for it?
I am anarchy.
Oh bullshit you are.
It just ends there.
I am anarchy.
Dude, so after this we record I'm gonna get tattooed and I was gonna get something else but now I'm gonna get Dimebag Tupac heavy metal hip-hop.
That is cool.
That is cool, I think.
Like, the way you sang that was so funny because now I'm, is this, is that a, is that the way they sing it or were you just reading it like we didn't start the fire?
It's, he like screams it the whole time.
So it's like, "Johnny Cash and PBR, Jack Daniels, NASCAR, Facebook, MySpace, iPod, Bill Gates!" "Disneyland, White House, JFK and Mickey Mouse, John Wayne, Springsteen, Eastwood, James Dean, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Playboy, Text Me, NFL, NBA, Brett Falk, Keith James!" "I am all American!" "I am living Keith James!" "I am all American!" "I am living the dream!" "I am what you fear most!" "I am NRK!" It's like, it's literally, I could only hear it as fucking We Didn't Start the Fire, which I should say.
It's so dated too.
Friend of the show, Lee Ann, previous guest, Lee Ann Dieffendorf made us a Facebook version of We Didn't Start the Fire.
And this song that I just, is only second to her version.
Otherwise, the pinnacle.
Me and Brett are gonna get obsessed with this song tonight.
I will go over there, for sure, and say, Brett, the Minion Death Gaunt guys turned me on to this Five Finger Death Punch song, and then we'll play it, and he'll be like, I think I like this band.
Because, again, we are sick of it.
It's nostalgic.
Yeah, we are fucking sickos.
You know what I mean?
Things that are good, I would never publicly be like, hey, I really like this thing that's really good, but I will always publicly call something very bad good.
Set the bar low for everybody.
I love Dimebag, Tupac, Heavy Metal, Hip Hop.
Like you said, Tony, I love that one.
It reminds me very much of Limp Bizkit.
Hey Rockers!
Hip Hoppers!
I love that.
It's the fusion.
Love it there.
I also love Smith & Wesson, NRA, Firewater, Paleface.
I don't like that one very much.
That one I don't like.
But, you know, that's what happens when a heavy metal white guy band from, like, Indiana, I think that's where they're from, or probably Vegas or some weird place.
I swear to God, I thought they were from Europe for a long time.
Just because of how weird their, like, their interpretation of American metal is.
Yeah, it seems like a caricature of American metal.
I do want to hear more words for white people in white people's music, like Paleface.
I really appreciate in Idols, he refers to pink skin a lot.
He says, I raise my pink fist in the air.
I like that a lot.
Ew!
But I would like to hear more self-deprecating words for white people in white music.
These guys are from, it's funny, these guys are from Vegas.
Oh, that is Europe, yeah.
Vegas is known for the killers and five-finger death punch.
And Chumlee's friends with all of them.
Probably.
I can guarantee Chumlee's friends with five-finger death punch.
Oh, no doubt.
They know each other for sure.
Yeah, no doubt.
The reason I like the Firewater Paleface one-two punch is because Firewater, that's a racist stereotype against Native Americans, right?
And then Paleface is a racist stereotype against white people.
So it's showing the duality of racism right there, which I love.
It's the same thing.
Yeah, it's exactly the same thing.
Why can't I say the n-word but you're allowed to say honky and you're like well because honky doesn't offend anybody in the whole world.
Because uh you guys were calling that your genre of music for like you know 40 years.
Yeah yeah it just doesn't it's it's just doesn't pack any punch at all that's that's why.
Yeah I just so that's that's the song The Pride uh which you know take take that back to Brett uh for you guys.
Um, I shudder when you say the pride every time I'm like, Ooh, okay.
Uh, so that verse about, Hey there, your majesty.
Is there anyone above you?
Et cetera.
It's obviously a reference to like politicians who quote, think they're exempt from the rules.
Um, and it's just like, You're saying, hey there, your majesty, hey, you're up on a pedestal, hey, you're at the highest, like, level of society.
I would just ask, like, you know, I don't know, what's a common factor that all these people who are in charge of America have?
Is it possibly, like, their wealth?
You're on the right track here, vaguely, but you're like, oh, she's a politician and that's why she's bad.
Or she's trying to control the spread of a deadly disease and that's why she's bad.
And the she part's really important too because I mean in American history there's literally never been like a woman leader there's never been a woman president there's been a lot of like women politicians but never a woman president but they still like in these videos the political villain will always be a Hunger Games-esque political woman because like the problem is not you know The highest of the high.
The problem is Nancy Pelosi.
Sure.
Right.
That makes sense.
I mean, I don't even know why.
I would have loved to have seen Chuck Schumer as the guy, you know?
I don't know about that.
He might be like rubbing his hands together a little too much in the music video.
Oh, agreed.
Yeah.
You got to have a blonde woman.
It's just a blonde.
It's always a blonde woman.
I don't, I don't know.
You're totally right.
It's all Nancy Pelosi's fault.
Everything that's fucked is because Nancy Pelosi's a communist.
And it's you know and it's like it's like yeah sure in the music video it's a woman but it could easily be a soy boy man politician who's basically a woman as we all know.
So I think it's totally fair to use a woman in this in this regard.
Sure.
We get in the music video this female politician who is walking pretty much literally Antifa and Black Lives Matter protests on chains like dogs.
So, they're like, they're wearing like, it's funny because they're supposed to be her minions, they're supposed to be her rioters, they're wearing ski masks and things like that, but they're dressed in a very, like, fascist style because the lead Antifa dog is, I'm almost positive, wearing the Winter Soldier mask.
Like he's wearing a Punisher skull type face mask with like a scar in it, which I think is also the Five Finger Death Punch logo, which is interesting.
It's like a reference almost to both.
These guys love comic books.
That's one of the things I take away from this is these guys really love comic books.
Whom amongst us?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, they like the Marvel movies and it seems like they were just like, let's put some comic book stuff in here too.
What the hell?
You know?
So she's, she's walking them on this video.
Like you said earlier, Brian, the video does look good, but it just looks like if Ben Garrison directed Black Hole Sun.
Yes.
Yes.
There is a lot of Black Hole Sun vibes.
Hey Ben Garrison, go direct Black Hole Sun.
I want to see it.
It's very cinematic.
I mean, it does... Like, if I'm Five Finger Death Punch, right, and I have all this money, I'm a great American capitalist, all that stuff.
I make a fucking short film out of this and get the maximum amount of use out of this footage.
Like, I imagine you wouldn't have to shoot much more.
And you could make like a little half-hour movie, and that would be nice.
But, you know, obviously there's a spoiler.
I would be spoiling the end.
Well, actually, I don't think this spoils it.
At the end, they want you to know this isn't the end of the video.
I assume that they think this is going to take the world by storm.
I am hoping that there is like a Michael Jackson-esque long cut, like director's cut, that actually has like a story arc, a smooth criminal of sorts.
You know, I want to see the full half hour cut.
I do too.
I would sit and fucking, I would, Brett made the comment after we watched it with our families and they were disgusted with us, Brett made the comment that like, he was like, I would watch 10 episodes of a one hour series of this video.
And I'm like, I would too.
It's, you know, it's really fascinating.
It's like, I don't know.
It's like if one of these Facebook grifters that you guys find actually got a big stack of money, you know?
That is what happened.
Like that is, that is kind of what happened.
Imagine like everything that's left on the cutting room floor.
Like there's definitely like people lined up to buy the newest iPhone while there's like nobody lined up to buy the newest Bible.
Yeah, yeah, or just book they they'll also like some of these guys are probably atheists So they'll just they'll just be like people are buying all these iPhones, but they're not buying any books No, I didn't like that.
No one's in the cursive class the class Just a sign on the door Jordan Peterson is dying of poverty instead of preventable illness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No one's bed is made.
Oh Yeah somebody's eating a raw steak or somebody's cooking a steak and then they're like what the fuck are you doing?
Just to kind of just to kind of like mention something real quick because we have this whole new scene they're now on the street the you know the dictator is walking the antifa dogs Just to remind everybody, we've had a couple different scenes here and the zombies are nowhere to be found.
There are no zombies anymore.
We have not seen Captain America or any of that.
They have not come back around.
We are now living in the world of just this like Pleasantville like set where the dictator is walking the dogs.
So still we have so much stuff going on in this video.
So we're on like a whole nother like section of metaphor with the dictator and the Antifa dogs.
Yeah, it's Main Street in a Pleasantville type scenario.
It's a very good way to describe it.
The dictator, the female politician, who again has only like asked people to wear masks.
We don't see like her forcing people to wear masks or anything.
She's walking her dogs, her Antifa dogs down the street.
She's waving to the laborers who have to wear masks.
She's a baker who is One of the black people in this music video waves to her while wearing a mask.
Obviously, that's my guy right there.
Obviously, that's my dude.
Obviously, that's Tony's stand-in.
Black bakers.
We out here.
And we see our male, upright, handsome guy who accepted the mask.
Him and his best gal are buying an ice cream from the ice cream man.
More like up white.
Okay.
Or up left, you know.
Oh, okay.
They're buying an ice cream cone from the ice cream man who's also wearing a, what do you call it, a face mask.
And the dictator, she's not wearing a mask, she's waving to everybody, she's exempt from it.
Her dogs like turn around and they notice something, her antifa dogs, they notice something and she turns around like her nostrils flaring as if she smelled something amiss about this scenario and surely enough the ice cream man has a miniature American flag in one of his windows and she flips her freaking lid She goes with real stars, not hammers and sickles.
Actual American flag, the forbidden fabric he has waving in his window.
She flips the Frick out, looses her dogs of war against this ice cream man and the Antifa and BLM, uh, I'm just going to say it rioters.
The burn loot and murder rioters attack the ice cream truck, breaking the windows, dragging the ice cream, the small business owner, out of his ice cream truck and setting it ablaze.
And we see the main guy, our protagonist, you know, our up white guy, our up left guy, standing up.
This isn't right.
What the heck is going on?
And his girlfriend grabs his arm and says, like, no, honey, it's not worth it.
Just, you know, just stay the course.
Just keep your head down.
You know, bah, bah.
And we see more destruction happening to the ice cream truck.
And that's when everybody on Main Street decides to finally take off their masks and confront the demonic communist forces head on.
We see our main guy take off his mask, we see the black baker take off his mask, there was another like black guy who was dressed in like a sweater vest and polo like take off his mask, and then we randomly cut to a field Where everybody is running against an unknown aggressor.
This is like the heightened part of the song.
This is like the sort of outro reprise of the pre-chorus that has been done in a more emotional overlay by Ivan Moody, the vocalist.
And we see a... I'm not remembering the exact sequence.
We see somebody running with the American flag.
They're all running through what's presumably a battlefield.
That person gets gunned down, shot graphically in the chest, and then a cop... People are getting mowed down.
A cop picks up the American flag and continues to run, and then the cop gets shot in the chest.
By machine gun fire.
Yes.
We see members of the band, we see the singer who has an amazing like skull tattoo that's just completely awful.
We see Zoltan Bathory who has amazing dreadlocks, like an amazing undercut dreadlock haircut.
We see each of them pick up the American flag and run toward this like unknown aggressor.
getting shot down and then finally we see our protagonist who has like you know removed the all-american finery from his chest and revealed like an olive green army shirt underneath and dog tags and like camouflage uh pants pick up the flag run with it get shot once in the chest We don't ever see who is doing the shooting.
We have no clue.
We don't see what the battlefield actually is comprised of.
We just know that they have to keep the flag up.
They have to keep the flag up.
They don't have guns.
None of them have guns, which is really funny.
They're just running into it.
Why would a troop and a cop not have a gun, by the way?
They're also, again, the uniforms and the costumes are very Halloween costumes.
Like, that's a Halloween cop costume, that's a Halloween firefighter costume, and that's a Halloween troop costume.
There's a firefighter who picks up the flag and gets shot down.
Like, I'm shocked there's not like an EMT with a sign that says, I only make $15, why should you?
Who also picks up the flag and gets shot down.
I like that.
I did like that.
That metaphor was, that was my favorite thing watching these, these guys grab the flag and get killed.
Like I was like, yeah, right on, man.
It's funny because when the cop, when the cops like, oh shit, are they going to do it?
Are they going to do it?
Yeah.
And then the cop gets mowed down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I did wonder if they were going to have the guts to do the cop, but they did.
They had the guts to do it all, I guess.
It was good.
That part I really liked.
It was like pornography for me.
And then when the army guy gets shot.
I think he's the last one to get shot.
When he gets shot we do like a smash cut.
Oh I got cinnamon in my throat.
Alright, now.
We do a smash cut to I think the same actor?
I think so.
In a powdered wig waking up from a daydream.
And a guy in another powdered wig beside him says, oh what's the matter sir, were you daydreaming?
And then he looks down and before him is the constitution that he then proceeds to sign.
Yes.
This is canon now.
This is actually what history is.
It's going to be in history books from now on.
My favorite part about this is that they were like, hey dude, you were just not coherent right now.
You were just like, one second ago you were not conscious.
You want to sign the Declaration of Independence?
Sounds about right.
You ready for this?
Hey, were you in the middle of signing the Constitution?
Was it the Declaration or the Constitution?
It's the Constitution.
Because you see, we are the people.
Really large.
He's in the middle of signing the Constitution and he falls asleep and nobody's like, hey man, what the fuck's going on, dude?
You know, it's just signing your name.
It's not hard work.
It's just pretty typical, like, bad case of, you know, fucking chlamydia or whatever.
It's very funny to me for several reasons like he... we wake up and it's like, you know, a fucking founding father who were like the wealthiest people in America at that time.
Slave-owning people, right?
Dressed in like their finest... Literally flu survivors.
Dressed in their finest garb, surrounded by, like, his servants who are also dressed in their finest garb.
And it's, like, it's incredible to me this juxtaposition, this smash cut, to, like, the aristocracy of America.
Uh, and these are our heroes.
They look just like the woman we were told was the villain the whole time.
Like, well-kemped white hair, you know, a beautiful wardrobe, pearls around her neck, like, instead of a sash or whatever these fuckers have.
And it's just like, I don't know, the dissonance is astounding.
Yeah, it's incredible.
Yeah, I love anything that has the Founding Fathers in it.
That is, that was, that's like a strain of conservatism that I miss more than anything in the world under Trump.
You know, that's Teacot type stuff from when that was how they communicated on Twitter.
It was like, it was all Founding Fathers shit.
It was all, that's what the Trump movement started out as, as the Tea Party.
They would dress up like John Adams and like put tea bags in their hat.
And stand around and yell about the Constitution.
I mean, Madison Rising is a great example of that.
It's James Madison.
That's what Madison Rising refers to.
Incredible.
Right.
That's my favorite strain of conservatism, though, because it's so ahistorical, number one.
And number two, it's just they treat the Founding Fathers like the Avengers.
The best one I saw was that like painting of the Founding Fathers as SEAL Team Six with like night vision goggles and shit.
That's the best one.
Yeah, that's great.
And it's also like, okay, so he signs the Constitution presumably as a way to avert this future dystopia.
That we're living in, and it's a very confused message because it's like, well, we're in America, that country that they founded, and you currently seem to think that it's pretty bad right now.
Yeah, you think that's exactly what it is.
What happened?
So I want to just, we got, we're running along here, but there's so much good stuff about this shit.
I just have a few more things to share that I learned about this band while doing research.
So, Fate the album, F8, is particularly personal for Moody, the singer, whose lyrics alternate between reflective, remorseful, and angry.
Quote, Ivan was in a very difficult situation, says Bathory.
He went back many, many times to rehab.
At moments, he looked like he was not going to make it.
That he was going to be another, quote, rock star that didn't make it.
We lost Chester Bennington.
We lost so many of these guys.
Some of them personal friends, and Ivan was almost one of them.
So like, imagine how many of our children could have been saved if Chester Bennington had lived to team up with Ivan Moody.
I don't think Chester, I mean obviously this is me being very serious, Chester Bennington I don't think would have teamed up with Ivan Moody ever.
And I honestly think he would hate him.
You know?
I think so.
Chester Bennington comes off as like sort of smarter than a lot of these heavy metal guys.
A lot of the new metal guys.
Now, Jonathan Davis?
He would love Ivan Moody, I'm sure.
They'd probably sit around and talk about the Founding Fathers together.
Well, Korn fucking took them on tour with that Korn Family Values Tour in 2006.
Korn took them on tour a couple times.
They did a Family Val- I didn't even know they did a- See, I was out in 2006, but now I gotta look up Korn Family Values 2006.
Yeah, like Korn single-handedly, like, quote, revived family- Like, I don't know if they owned the rights to the term.
They did.
I remember that, yeah.
Yeah, so they did a Family Values tour in 2006.
They had five-finger debt.
Like, they're just as responsible for this band.
Wow.
I think it's amazing to compare him to Chester Bennington, who I don't like Linkin Park, but I would agree that Chester Bennington is probably a much more, I don't know, sensitive and was much more of a sensitive and like grounded individual.
Yeah.
And then going on with this quote from Bathory, Ivan literally said, quote, this album is everything that happened in my life leading up to this record.
He calls it his absolution.
I love that.
So, like, yeah, sure, Ivan Moody assaulted a female airplane steward.
Sure, he assaulted his wife or, like, girlfriend, depending on what the reports say, by, like, putting her in a chokehold and stuff.
Jesus.
He made this album.
He made this album as his absolution.
I think we can absolve Ivan Moody of his past at this point.
I love this too, because if this album is everything that happened in your life up until that point, what is this song?
What part of your life is this song?
This was you walking into the polls in 2016.
Is that what this is?
I don't understand what you're saying here.
This is just like a fucking ballad of the oppressed silent minority that is white man.
So, you know, the oppressed silent minority that is white man.
Majority.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I also really like the idea that you can make money from your absolution.
Like, that is very cool to me.
That's tight.
That's something I might consider.
That's capitalist America.
And then a couple more things about Zoltan, which are just amazing.
Zoltan Bathory is a longtime supporter of law enforcement and first responders.
Doing it for years.
Five Finger Death Punch donated $58,000 to the Badge of Honor Memorial Foundation, an organization recognized by the Department of Justice that's available to assist the departments and families of fallen police officers by identifying all the federal and state benefits that are available to them.
Oh, okay.
So for this charity, I'm literally just picturing, like, who's that guy who wore all the dollar signs and sold the book about, like, all the government programs?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matthew Lesko.
Yeah, I'm picturing, like, a right-wing Matthew Lesko with, like, black ribbons pinned all to his suit saying, You can find money anywhere!
In this statute, it says families of fallen officers can be granted a parcel of land in Nevada!
It's really just like a list of places that you get a discount on your Carhartt pants if you're a troop.
That's really all it is.
Yeah, you can buy a new Punisher brand Toyota.
10% off.
Families of fallen officers.
And then finally, this is actually, this is something, something about Zoltan Bathory.
Bathory won the silver medal at the Abu Dhabi Pro Jiu Jitsu World Trials and at the North American Grappling Championship.
He placed third at the 2012 Masters World Championship in his division.
He is one of the few civilians certified by the U.S.
Army as an L1 Modern Army Combatives Instructor for close quarter combat.
Oh my god.
He rips so hard.
What a badass.
Again, the most Facebook banned in existence.
That's nuts.
What is every Facebook guy's dream is to be a civilian, to be so badass that he can instruct the military as a civilian like fucking Chuck Norris.
Not even Chuck Norris can do that, right?
I don't think so.
I think Chuck Norris taught kickboxing to, like, LEOs at some point.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I think he just donated a bunch of jeans to them for kicking.
Yeah.
That is so, like, there's like, no, you guys don't understand, like, he is a weapon.
He is.
He's a certified weapon by the military.
Yeah, if he kills somebody in a fight, it would be manslaughter.
Because he's a certified weapon.
His hands are registered as lethal weapons.
That is true.
I had some comments prepared.
I don't think we have time for them.
This has been a really fun episode.
Thank you so much, Brian, for joining us.
Brian, of course, the host of Street Fight Radio and the POD cast.
Why don't you go ahead and tell people where they can listen to those.
Look them up in the app, Street Fight Radio, and it's P-O-D-K-A-S-T.
And this month, it's October, which on Street Fight is Shocktober, one of people's favorite shows that I do.
It is a Patreon exclusive because I listen to shock jocks for nothing but like for nothing but shock jocks from March to November.
So you owe me money.
But it's just a deep dive into different shock jocks, and we actually had some people on that are in that world this year.
We're having a few people on that were in that world, so people seem to really enjoy it.
Fuck yeah, it's a great series.
The 100 million tons of steel miniseries on metal that you guys did is great.
And I'm not just saying that because Tony and myself were featured on the first episode of that miniseries talking about Sludge and Doom Metal.
Highly recommended.
Very fun series.
Thank you, thank you.
I appreciate it.
And that's on Patreon, right?
Yeah, and this week actually, Patreon, we did some commentary over some videos.
So we did Sweating Bullets by Megadeth, Dirty Black Summer by Danzig, Bad to the Bone by George Thurgood, and then Bruce Willis' video Respect Yourself.
Fuck yeah.
Alright, well, thanks so much for listening, folks.
Thank you to Brian from Streetfighter Radio for joining us.
You can support our show at patreon.com slash MinionDeathCult.
The last episode we did, also about very bad music, coincidentally, is on our Patreon.
It's a guy who goes by the name of Miguelifornia, who appears to be, I think, very white,
But it's it's he's you know he's tapping into that cool guy mystique that a lot of people have in the past like Dexter Holland of The Offspring by sort of affecting a Hispanic patois singing songs both about taking back Cali and about how how we're in a new civil war of the mind.
So I highly recommend that episode.
It was a lot of fun and a good way to support the show.
Thanks for listening everybody.
Bye.
Appreciate y'all.
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