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June 24, 2020 - Minion Death Cult
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Women in History, Part One: AUNT JEMIMA, AND. UNCLE BEN, WAS LIKE FAMILY TO ME, MADE ME HAPPY AT MEAL TIME
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I'm Alexander Edward.
And I'm Tony Boswell.
We are Minion Death Cult.
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That's a very good point.
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So not only do we have an episode for you, I dare I say we may just have an epic episode for folks today.
Absolutely.
Epic is a word I don't abuse, but I'm gonna go ahead and go for it today.
We are doing not just one, but two deep dives on two very important women.
One of whom is a historical figure, the other of whom is a more contemporary figure, but I think no less important, no less vital to these times.
I think one day could be a historical person.
If the leftists don't tear her down before she can make it.
If that shirt that says, well-behaved women seldom make history, is anything, I think that she's probably gonna go ahead and make some history.
So, let's just get right into it.
Up top tonight, we gotta talk about Aunt Jemima.
It's, once again, this is well-trod territory.
It's, uh, it's conservatives freaking out about their foodstuffs.
It's, it's conservatives, um, not coping with change very well.
Yeah.
But I feel like with this, I don't know, this particular segment, this is something we've covered a lot on the show.
Most recently with the Lando Lakes, uh, Butter Maiden.
With this segment, I feel like we get even deeper towards the nut.
We dig even further into the core of conservative grievance, conservative psychopathy.
There's a lot of stuff in doing research for this segment that just, I don't know, crystallized a few things in my head about this type of person.
The type of person who would Freak out publicly about a brand changing their logo.
Yeah, make a stink out of it.
So, uh, you know, Quaker Oats, uh, released a statement recently saying, we recognize Aunt Jemima's origins are based on a racial stereotype.
Kristen Kropfel, vice president and chief marketing officer of Quaker Foods North America said in a news release.
Do you think like she's the one who did this?
She's like, listen, I gotta be the one to release this statement because of my, like, let's be honest, my last name sounds pretty racist.
Yeah, it sounds like it might have some history behind it.
You might have had some military family in your background.
I need a win here, okay?
I need Kroepfel to be associated with something, quote, anti-racist for once.
As we work to make progress towards racial equality through several initiatives, we also must take a hard look at our portfolio of brands and ensure they reflect our values and meet our consumers' expectations.
And gosh, wow, I'm just so hopeful, so optimistic that Quaker Oats is working to make progress towards racial equality.
Yeah, this is one step further.
I think it's about time.
I'm happy that I can at least I can at least get breakfast and not feel, you know, attacked.
It's about time Quaker Oats did something about racial equality, if you ask me.
Well, they just heard about it.
It's just kind of brand new.
These protests are kind of a big deal.
Um, so we're going to go through like the history of the Aunt Jemima logo and character, uh, as we kind of go through these comments, you know, where it's, where it's pertinent, but I don't know, maybe we talk about this a little up top.
Maybe we, we discuss our feelings on it.
Um, and you know, uh, how about I let, let Tony go first.
Well, it is kind of weird, because like, you know, for so many people out there, uh, non-black people out there, like Aunt Jemima was this, like, kind of this wholesome character, but also this, like, mammy character, you know?
Um, that's, like, kind of interesting, kind of, uh, at le- at least there's- there's, like, One wholesome, loving woman at your breakfast table.
But for me, I was just told that was my actual aunt.
So it hits a little closer to home.
And it's just like they're taking my family away from me.
Now, you never got to meet Aunt Jemima, but you did think of her as an auntie.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
No, I never... No, the truth is, though, is that I always kind of trusted Aunt Jemima's products more because in my experience, my black family cooked better than my white family.
So to have any type of food packaging with the black person on it, I just thought was going to taste better.
Did you ever... So that was my only thought about Aunt Jemima.
Did you ever see, well did you know that Aunt Jemima was owned by Quaker Oats?
And if you had known, and you had seen the logo for Quaker Oats, would that have rocked you to your core?
Because I'm pretty sure that's like the whitest person in existence, is the logo for Quaker Oats.
I'm pretty sure that that person, had that person been real, or if he is real, definitely owned slaves.
Um, so yeah, there's like no doubt about that.
They did, they did like a, like a composite of every slave owner in history, in American history, and it spat out the Quaker of the sky.
It's that, yeah.
It's like that, it's like that, that scientific rendition of Jesus, but it was just all the, and still turned out pretty white, of course, you know.
But yeah, like, I wasn't aware of how brands owned other brands until then.
I fell for it completely.
I thought, oh cool, this is a strong black woman who makes really good products and is now making money off these white people.
I thought it was a black success story.
We will learn shortly that that's not the case.
I'm gonna get a little personal here and feel free not to answer or whatever but like when when did you become aware of like the black mammy stereotype uh and especially as it pertains to like selling foodstuffs um not not until much later not until i kind of like started educating myself you know uh because because you don't learn that unless even you know even in like a lot of the a lot of black homes we don't you don't really talk about that it's like not because because we don't do it we don't
You know, we don't do it.
We don't have mammies.
We are mammies.
And we just went to work.
We weren't being mammied.
So, you know, it didn't really... that didn't really, I guess, at least in my family, it didn't really come up.
So I didn't realize until much later on.
Probably like, probably like junior high, like early high school when I started reading some stuff.
I kind of started to get it, and then I was like, oh, this is like, yeah, a full-blown caricature of, like, this wholesome woman who's just gonna take care of you and not talk back.
Yeah, um, I think I probably became aware of it in, um... I don't know, I don't know what time, maybe middle school or whatever, but like...
I think the way I became aware of it was seeing even like more grotesque caricatures that I could say, oh shit, that's like what Aunt Jemima, that's like a, like Aunt Jemima's a cleaned up version of this, you know, like statuettes or salt and pepper shakers or whatever of just like, you know, really bad blackface minstrel shit.
And then you start to realize, oh, Aunt Jemima's just like halfway down that spectrum.
It's the same spectrum.
It's the same, like, you know, axis.
She's just, like, progressed across the axis towards more, like, palatable or whatever in recent years.
Totally.
And even then, I didn't even think that those, like, caricatures were racist.
I thought they were just big Lucille Ball fans.
Well, well, I don't know, like I grew up on all those like the old Mary Melodies cartoons that my grandma had.
My grandparents had like the VHS tapes and shit.
And so I grew up, you know, watching them and and soaking all that in.
And then occasionally when I got older, I would like return to them and be like, oh, this is bad.
This is bad.
Like these these aren't just like, quote, funny characters.
These are like really, really racist, bad, bad stereotypes.
And so yeah, and you would just notice like the artwork and the same things were highlighted or the same, you know, I don't know, the same styles were used across this.
Well it's like those those relics those cartoons weren't being made in like the 90s but we still saw them somehow we all still saw them somehow and a lot of that did permeate the culture because like no one sit down like sat down and told you like hey black people love watermelon and fried chicken It's just something that was soaked up through those relics that we just saw.
Well, there's also like an oral tradition among white people.
You know, we pass down our history of racism from one generation to another.
Well, I guess when it came to me, it was always in like question form, so it wasn't really like... Yeah.
It was like, it was like, do you really like fried chicken?
And I'm like, no, no, because I'm vegan.
No, fried chicken is gross.
Black people hate it.
That's a misunderstanding, actually.
We actually hate flavor.
It's all been reversed.
But I wonder if that's Kind of going away with the current generations.
I don't think even my brother, who's 11 years younger than me, saw those cartoons without him being shown to them saying, this is racism.
Right.
I don't know if you stumble upon it anymore like we still did.
There was still a lot of that happening, like Looney Tunes cartoons, that were still being syndicated, that we would still run into.
But I wonder if that's going away without it being... Because now when they see that stuff, it's obviously just like, oh, this is racism.
It's put into context.
Like, me, when I was watching those tapes, it was like, oh, here's a cartoon with an ostrich swallowing an alarm clock, and the ostrich runs around and scares everybody with the alarm clock.
Oh, and here's a cartoon about a lazy Mexican with a bunch of flies around him while he sleeps under a tree.
Like, oh, okay, this is another funny cartoon, I guess.
Yeah, totally.
So, All Americans for Trump, this is a Facebook page, All Americans for Trump, quote, formerly African Americans posts, why?
And then shares the article about Aunt Jemima Brand to change name, remove image, Quaker Oats announces.
It's funny because I have the same question on why this Facebook name.
Why this Facebook page name?
Well, I think it's very interesting that a page that used to be called African Americans for Trump would get rid of the African American in their name, change it to All Americans for Trump, and then question why another brand would do exactly the same thing.
Same thing, yeah.
This is like, you can't write this.
It's incredible.
Like literally they took, and if you, you probably don't recognize this.
I mean, maybe you recognize this photo.
Do you recognize who's in the profile pic, Tony?
I can't see it.
It's kind of a famous picture.
It's a series of famous pictures.
It's among- No.
It's the Blacks for Trump group.
It's the Black Israelites group.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah, so it's- Wow.
They literally were- And they don't run this page, by the way.
Just so you know, they don't run this page.
No, their image is being used.
Literally, a page that used to be called African Americans for Trump, that used a caricature of black Trump voters as their profile picture, has now changed their brand to All Americans for Trump.
And they're asking, why would Aunt Jemima do this?
Well, they are confused.
They're like, why would Quaker Oats do this?
Why don't they just lean into the racism?
Why don't they make it more racist?
I understand the name change, but just like, I don't know, maybe give her a ruder name.
Dolores Fields Johnson comments on this post in All Americans for Trump, quote, formerly African Americans, end quote.
Dolores says, I've always bought that.
She means like the syrup?
Or the pancakes?
I've always bought that I could find Ear Quick because she was on there and it is good well I mean Dolores is always on the lookout for black people so it's not it's not a hard pivot when she's looking for the stripes She sees a black face out of the corner of her eye and her head snaps to attention.
She's like, oh, thank God, it's just a brand.
Yeah, it's fine.
It's cool.
That's one of the good ones.
It's so sweet.
It's one of the good ones because she's not real.
Because she's not real.
I think that this is a good insight into why this fucks with people so bad.
Totally.
Dolores, I mean her profile pic is like is a like a drawing or an artistic representation of a rose that's like an American flag folded origami style into a rose.
So I don't know exactly how old she is but I'm guessing with a name like Dolores Fields Johnson and the way that she typed this comment I bet she can't recognize a lot of images at this point.
Yeah, she's not, you know, she can't see the words anymore so she's looking for like rough shapes.
She's looking for like literal, you know, landmarks basically.
She's looking for like known points of interest in the grocery store aisle.
Which is why, you know, she's so horrified by them tearing down statues.
Like that's the only reason, that's the only way she knows what city she's in.
She goes and tries to feel for the Aunt Jemima shaped bottle, the one that's shaped like her body, and that's how she knows.
She doesn't even know, she just knows it's at least maple syrup.
She doesn't know if it's going to be butter, country style, whatever, but she knows it's going to be Aunt Jemima.
So I literally think a lot of this outrage is because these people will have no ability to like recognize the product anymore.
Yeah, totally.
Like, it's too late for me to pick out a different syrup.
I can't even tell what syrup is which.
Like, I can see the black face on the red background with yellow font.
That's what I can see.
That's it, yeah.
It's the one that kind of scares me, but then I know I need it.
Uh, so, I'm gonna be ping-ponging for this segment between two different pages, uh, the All Americans for Trump, formerly African Americans, and another page called, Hey Hollywood, Stop Using the Lord's Name in Vain!
Which is a page I thought was satire when I first stumbled across it.
I hoped it wasn't, but I thought it was until just looking at like three different posts and it is not satire.
It's 100% earnest.
It's painfully earnest.
They posted about this and they said, they did a couple posts about the Aunt Jemima thing.
One of them was, Does Aunt Jemima offend you?
In, like, word art, you know?
Yep.
And I think it's nice to see something that, like, doesn't offend, hey Hollywood, stop using the Lord's name in vain.
Like, I think it's kind of... I think we've talked about this.
Like, I remember being peak Catholic when I was, when I was, like, 16, and being like, hey, like, cussing's cool, but, like, you don't...
You don't gotta, like, use the Lord's name in vain.
Yeah, just say damn.
You don't have to say the first part.
I'm cool.
Like, look, check it out.
Fuck.
I don't really care.
I don't give a fuck.
But, can we just leave the Lord out of it?
Like, come on.
I remember feeling that way, and these are grown-ups though.
Um, what if they're, like, trying to flex on, like, Black Lives Matter or whoever was... I think it's just Twitter.
I don't think it's, like, Black Lives Matter, uh, Twitter who was trying to get Aunt Jemima taken down.
Like, I think it's just plain Twitter.
Yeah, it was just straight up Twitter.
Do you think they're trying to flex on them?
They're like, hey, we're like fucking the most pussy you can be.
Like, we get offended by hearing the word God in media, and even this doesn't offend us.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Yeah, y'all.
This is exactly what it's like.
No, we're supposed to be the softest, and you guys really need to step it up.
Like, you guys need to grow some thick skin.
So we kind of talked about it, but what's your take, Tony, on Quaker Oats changing the Aunt Jemima brand or whatever?
Well the whole thing is it's I mean I'm happy they're doing it but it should have happened so long ago.
Yeah.
Like this all should have happened so long ago.
I mean there's so many things that exist like this and they're all going to change eventually and we're going to be like happy when they do but it's like is it too late?
I mean I don't think Quaker Oats is like a good... probably not a good company, I'm assuming.
No, of course not.
They're a fucking corporation, of course they're not good.
Yeah, I'm assuming they're fucking evil, like... So, it doesn't fucking matter to me.
I don't really give a fuck, like...
Yeah, it's obvious.
I mean, it's obviously not my position.
It's not, I'm not in a position to really chime in on this or to like, you know, make policy or suggest or anything, but it's like they updated it to the point where she was like, uh, she looks like an eighties, like an eighties Reaganite black woman.
Who's like on top of the world.
And she's also going to make dinner for her breakfast for her kids.
Like that was the updated and it still says aunt Jemima, but, um, Well, I think it's yeah, I know I know that you probably don't think you should be able to talk about this subject But like I know that you're not like black or anything, but I also know that you love syrup so like it's okay I haven't had syrup probably in eight years Really?
Yeah, I don't like pancakes.
I'm not a I I like I like waffles with butter on them I like crispy crispy waffles with butter on them.
Oh Between, you know, you hating pancakes and me being black, this segment really had... No one's gonna defend this.
Quaker Oats had no hope.
Yeah, I just, like, I don't know, it's just the idea, you know, maybe this is me being too cynical or maybe this is me, like, being too dismissive, but the idea of Quaker Oats saying they're going to, like, help racial equality by changing their brand logo is, like, absurd to me.
It's laughable on the face of it.
Like, go ahead, keep Aunt Jemima, and then just, like, a lot of the money that Aunt Jemima makes, maybe do something cool for the black community with it.
Keep Aunt Jemima and, like, I don't know, uh, turn your fucking company into a co-op.
Give, like, all your employees ownership stake.
And, you know, like, I don't know.
Maybe I'm just, like, too old and crotchety about this shit, but it's, like, I don't... I don't...
I don't know.
Not to sidetrack us too much, but I watched a clip of... Man, what's that guy?
That guy who gets memed as the school shooter.
Anytime there's a school shooter, they meme him.
He's like the creator of Million Dollar Extreme on Adult Swim, and he was too racist to be on Adult Swim, basically.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't talk about him, but I know his name.
I don't remember his name.
I never watched him, like, say anything or anything, so I'm not really familiar with him, but I watched him say something about, like, the Black Lives Movement, because, uh, uh, what's- what's his name from Info Wars?
Imagine My Shock guy, uh, shared a clip of him, and he was saying, how radical could your movement be?
If corporations are signing on to it, if cops are taking knees in the street, how radical could your could your movement be?
And it's absurd to me to equate Quaker Oats changing their fucking logo as like supporting the movement.
Yeah.
You know the movement is to defund and abolish the police?
Yeah.
That's the movement.
Is Quaker Oats gonna arrest some cops?
Is Quaker Oats gonna do some Black Klansman shit?
Quaker Oats could be like, hey, we're going to pull all of our faculties from places that still have police or that aren't defunding the police.
They could do something like that.
They have power like that, but that's so crazy.
That would never happen.
It's totally baby brain shit to think that corporations recognizing the popularity of a Black Lives Matter movement and trying to make money off of it is somehow the same thing as the movement itself.
Yeah, exactly.
It's so stupid.
It's so fucking stupid.
Like you said, they have so much money, they have so many resources, they could be doing something tangible, and this is not it.
They're just trying to kind of like, maybe shift into the right side of history.
And it's like, fuck you.
Like, fuck off completely.
I am happy that, you know, she is less offensive looking than she used to be.
That's, yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
Sam Hyde is the guy's name.
He looks fucking bad now, man.
He looks really bad.
Oh, yeah.
Um, okay.
So anyway, on the, uh, Hey Hollywood, stop using the Lord's name in vain!
Facebook post, uh, Kathy Dixon says, Aunt Jemima, comma, and, period, Uncle Ben, comma, was like family to me, comma, made me happy at mealtime.
Ugh.
Hey man, support black owned businesses.
Now, does this person always talk like this or was the was like family to me that made it racist?
Yeah, are they trying to get into like the spirit of things here?
Yeah, is this person like code-switching right now?
I don't know.
Maybe they're from the South or maybe, you know, that, that slang could be used by any number of, of races.
So this is like another like interesting comment to me.
Uh, Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben was like family to me, made me happy at mealtime.
Um, so like not only does the logo, the brand, the box, whatever, the bottle, uh, serve as like a way point in your otherwise cloudy world.
You know, it's like a bonfire where you can rest your woes for a second.
You can anchor yourself to a tangible moment in space-time by looking at this bottle.
I think it also possibly represents like...
A psychological or emotional anchor.
Totally.
Something that serves as, like, you know, a happy memory back to a time when people would, like, willingly associate with you.
Yeah.
Back to a time when you had people who, like, wanted to take care of you and weren't just being paid to do it.
Well, I mean, you can pretend like that's who Andrew Maima is.
Aunt Jemima always listens.
And like the thing that's funny about this too is I guess I keep on thinking of like the iconic bottle, you know?
Whenever these people are talking about this, I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and talk about the iconic bottle.
Which I don't even think really exists anymore.
But Uncle Ben, like you shouldn't be seeing him at the table.
You're supposed to put the rice into like a pot and then throw the box away.
Oh, okay.
You know, like, what are you doing?
Oh, oh.
Sorry.
Inappropriate laughter.
Uncle Ben also should not be at the table.
Not if Aunt Jemima's there also.
You gotta pick one.
But like, it just, it makes no sense.
It's so silly.
Yeah, well I think it does, I think it makes sense because it's like, it reminds, you know, we speak about like retirement and old age as the second childhood, right?
Yeah.
It's when you have less responsibilities, you can kind of relax, you can kind of do whatever you want, you can play, and you also get a little more feeble, you get a little more less able than you were before.
And so, you know, mentally or physically, there's a childlike aspect to it as well.
However, in your first childhood you had parents and you had family and you had people who like loved you and cared for you and maybe your mom fucking put a bottle of Aunt Jemima in front of you when she made you some pancakes or whatever and now like your daughter won't talk to you.
Like now your family won't visit or whatever so I don't know it's like at least Aunt Jemima was there or Aunt Jemima like I can think about her when I need some comfort I guess but now the leftists are even taking that from me.
I can picture them like talking to the bottle you know like confiding in them talking about like oh you know the kids haven't been by in a while uh i don't i think the facebook's broken they're not getting my messages i took i took my facebook to the repair store uh and and the the facebook repair man said your facebook's working fine ma'am and i said well then how come grandchild uh doesn't poke me
I'm not receiving pokes.
I think you might want to run through this again.
Um, actually... Imagine telling somebody that.
No, no, no, I poked you.
I sent you a poke, I promise.
I sent you a poke, but you thought it was Japanese cuisine, so you sent it back.
Shut up.
You said, absolutely not.
Nope, I cook my fish.
Hey Hollywood, stop using the Lord's name in vain.
Another comment on this post from Jan Bartlett.
Jan Bartlett says, it's the exact same strategy as Planned Parenthood.
Yep.
Totally.
Yeah.
Get all black women, get all black women to abort their children and get all the black people to erase their historical pictures from everything nostalgia.
You know, in Jan's defense, the CEO of Quaker Oats used to be the CEO of Planned Parenthood.
And that's just, everyone knows that.
Yeah, I knew that.
that it's conservative white people trying to get rid of them.
Smiling face.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Exclamation point. - You know, in Jan's defense, the CEO of Quaker Oats used to be the CEO of Planned Parenthood.
- Mm. - And that's just, everyone knows that.
- Yeah, I knew that. - That's a fact.
And like, imagine though that that is what was happening.
What if Aunt Jemima was a real black woman who really did do all this stuff and then Quaker Oats did remove her?
I think that's what they're thinking.
I think that's really what they're thinking sometimes.
They're like, oh no, they're erasing the history.
You should be proud of Aunt Jemima.
We're gonna get into that.
There's a few more like...
Specific or uh people are elaborating on their feelings or or like the quote history of it uh a little more but I I think if you're going to believe that history there's like some deep-seated uh what's what's the word I'm like delusions you have some deep-seated racist delusions in your mind if you think that uh
A black woman in the 1800s owned the Aunt Jemima label.
Well, that's the whole thing about erasing your history, that whole conversation, right?
Is that the reason why it's so weird for white people to understand that is because all the history, like, benefits them.
Like, it's always really... It was that time when you literally got to own other people.
And, like, that's a pretty powerful thing to be able to do.
And so you want a reminder of that power, but every single thing that we have is, like, the worst!
And it still sucks.
It's all still pretty fucking bad.
Well, I mean, Texas tried to make it better by describing the slaves as helpers.
I mean, doesn't that?
Exactly.
Dude, and that's what I'm saying.
You hear shit like that so often.
I mean, it's George Washington's teeth.
It's things like joking about Thomas Jefferson.
About all of his kids.
But it's like, he took care of his slaves.
Things like that.
It's like, no!
You heard the word slaves, right?
You heard that part?
No, he was really good to them.
They got extra gizzards.
Um, I love this description, uh, of, of this phenomenon of changing the, the label, uh, as, as abortion.
I think that's really cool.
I think it's really cool to like reduce everything in your life.
Oh, this is just like abortion.
Well, yeah.
Cause I mean, if, if a fetus is a, is a life, Then Aunt Jemima is a person.
Like a real person, like a live person.
If a fetus is a person, then Aunt Jemima, the Aunt Jemima logo is also a person.
Also a person, yeah.
That's a really good point.
I just think it's crazy, like...
Okay, leftists, they love abortion, right?
They love first trimester abortion, second trimester abortion, and even third trimester abortions.
Even more recently, we've heard about post-birth abortions that are definitely happening.
And I thought that was crazy.
I thought a post-birth abortion was crazy.
And now we have a fucking post-death abortion of Aunt Jemima.
Post-death abortion, yeah.
That's how sick these people are.
That's how sick these leftists are.
Post-Fictional Death Abortion.
She's so old!
And they still aborted her.
Dude, that's the name of my new band.
Necro abortion.
Brenda, Dowker, Newbarth, Newbarth sounds familiar.
I think we had another Newbarth before.
Well, this profile pic looks familiar, too.
Oh, this profile pic is wonderful.
I wish everybody could see it.
I actually had saved an enlarged version of it and put it in here, but I didn't know how to describe it.
It's like a glamour shot of an old couple, you know, like a Walmart-style glamour shot with the woman standing behind the man while the man's seated.
You know, they're both like 85 to 90 years old.
The woman is standing behind the man, she's got her arms wrapped around him and she's smiling.
And the man, if you look at the enlarged picture, the man's eyes are like barely open.
Yeah, they're just... They're barely... He's stone.
They're barely open.
He's fucking faded.
It looks like when you take people's mouths and put their mouth as, like, their eyes.
The thin-lipped mouth eyes?
Yeah, when you clone the mouth and put it over each eye, like, that's what this dude looks like.
Yeah, and she has a floating head because she's wearing black with a black background, and it's great.
It has Death Row vibes.
I mean, maybe she's like doing Kabuki theater or something.
She's like, oh, I'm not allowed to do a minstrel show anymore, but I'm still gonna do this.
Can't erase the history.
Says, OMG, when is this ever going to stop?
And why are these companies caving into this utter nonsense?
Dot, dot, dot.
Someone needs to take a stand and soon.
Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot The whole thing is people did take a stand.
That's kind of the whole thing.
Which is fucking corny.
This whole thing is so corny.
The whole thing is so corny.
I'm so mad that people took time to type out a tweet that said...
Change Aunt Jemima instead of just same, like, energy towards their local, like, city councils and, you know, police unions and lawmakers, but we're here now.
Yeah.
And, uh, sorry, Brenda.
Um, maybe you, maybe you, maybe you need to buy a lot of shares in Quaker Oats and step up to the plate.
Thank you for that because I'm like sitting here wondering how somebody takes a stand.
Like, how do you take a stand against this?
Do you, like, shoot up the Quaker Oats offices?
Like, I don't understand how you'd take a stand against this.
Imagine Brenda, like, just throwing a brick through a window at a random Quaker Oats factory with a note on it.
That would be tight!
I would respect Brenda so much more.
Yeah, I don't know, like, and this just reminds me of the conservative trope of, like, Oh, leftists, they're tearing down statues.
They're fighting the police.
They're getting TV shows cancelled or whatever.
We can do that too!
What if we did that?
And then, like, they just never do it.
Yeah, you know, they never do it.
They only get mad when it happens.
It's very funny to me.
It's very funny.
Like, whoa, wouldn't you like it if we also did something?
But then it'd be like something awful, like there'd be a petition to just... to get rid of like a... I can't think of any black shows right now that are popular that they would want to cancel.
Well, isn't there like a black-ish spinoff?
Yeah, there's one, like it's called Mix-ish and I'm never going to watch it.
Like, Black-ish was already basically Mix-ish.
So I don't know what Mixish is going to be.
I heard the spinoff is just about him being successful because of Black-ish.
Probably.
I heard the spinoff, it's like Famous-ish.
No, I'm not kidding.
There's one called Mixish, Alex.
I'm not joking.
I don't think you're joking.
Is it Mixed-ish or Mixed?
I think it's Mixed-ish, though.
Oh, that's cool.
That's a good name.
Which is cool, because that basically allows people who are brown and not black, but they can just say they're Mixed-ish because they're still brown.
And it works.
It works for them.
But yeah, that show...
People have asked me if I've watched it.
I'm like, I don't know.
I can't do it.
I'll cry too much.
You're here too close to home.
Elizabeth Ann Martinez says, Anna Short Harrington, born in 1897 in Marlborough County, South Carolina, began her career as Aunt Jemima in 1935.
She had to support her five children, and she moved with her family to Syracuse, New York, where she cooked for a living.
Quaker Oats discovered her when she was cooking at a fair.
And then it's like four line breaks, and then it says Wikipedia, right carrot.
Wiki, right carrot.
Ant underscore Jemima.
And then another line break, and it says Ant Jemima dash Wikipedia.
This is like... It's real.
It's real.
It's totally real.
This is what a Wikipedia article looks like when you copy and paste it into a Facebook comment.
For sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
No doubt.
Also, the dates they made up are wild.
For some reason, she's just now taking care of her kids in her late 30s.
And this is in 1935, where your kids are moving out of the house by the time you're 40.
Yeah, totally.
So what happened in the wake of this news about Aunt Jemima, the brand changing their logo, changing their name, I think they're going to also change, which would make sense because that's one of the most offensive parts of it if you're going to talk about whether or not it's offensive.
One of the things that has happened in the wake of this is people like writing fake Wikipedia articles on Facebook.
Like people writing up an article that I guess looks like it's from Wikipedia to people who've never been to Wikipedia and then people just copying.
Old people love to copy and paste by the way.
Like the only thing they love more than screenshotting a screenshot of a screenshot Is copying and pasting something.
And that's only because a lot of them don't, still don't understand the screenshot and how that works.
Like at all.
Right.
They just can't do it.
Or else they would.
Um, so, let me, let me read the actual history from the actual Wikipedia page.
Nancy Green was the first spokesperson hired by the R.T.
Davis Milling Company for the Aunt Jemima pancake mix.
Green was born a slave in Montgomery County, Kentucky.
Dressed as Aunt Jemima, Green appeared at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, Illinois beside, quote, the world's largest flower barrel, parenthesis, 24 feet high.
That's a pretty big flower barrel.
You know your boy loves flower.
That's pretty cool.
To be honest, I don't think I've seen a bigger barrel.
I think that's the biggest one.
I bet you haven't.
Still, to this day.
Where she operated a pancake cooking display, sang songs, and told romanticized stories about the Old South, a happy place for blacks and whites alike.
She appeared at county fairs, flea markets, food shows, and local grocery stores.
Her arrival heralded by a large billboards featuring the caption, and excuse me, quote, eyes in town, honey.
end quote following green's work as aunt jemima the company hired a few dozen actors to portray the role often assigned regionally some were relatively well known okay so just like taking a step back
this is a late 1800s obviously transparent campaign to hire a like a black model to shuck and jive in front of yes white people in 1893 yes and white people in 2020 are like Look at what she did!
They discovered her at the World's Fair.
She was just a cook, and she was at the World's Fair because she was such a good cook, making pancakes on display.
She was a wonder at making pancakes.
She was the seventh wonder of the world.
They had billboards for her, where she said in her native tongue, eyes bein' makin' pancakes, honey!
And the Mills Company, they found her!
They discovered this local talent.
Like, white people in 2020 are like, this is real.
This fucking corny ad campaign from over a hundred years ago, it fooled me!
I love that she told tales of the Old South in 1893, and that was a place that was good for blacks and whites alike, and they're like, this is all authentic!
This is so real!
So many people are referencing, like, in these comments, so many people are referencing her as, like, a master storyteller and shit.
And it's, it's like, do you, do you, like, look at the stories she was supposed to have told?
Yeah.
And, like, the thing is, it literally says in here that she was a slave.
Yeah.
Born a slave.
Like, it says that.
Born a slave.
So they're like, this is really just, this is a bootstrap story.
This is, this is elbow grease.
This is your tenacity.
Oh yeah, we'll get into that part of it too.
That's what they think and it's fucking incredible.
And you know she didn't get paid shit.
She didn't get paid shit.
No, we'll get into it, but like, historians think she might have been able to live, to rise to a middle class, a comfortable middle class lifestyle.
But we'll get into that in more detail in a second.
Some background on the brand itself.
Uh, Rutt, who was one of the owners of the R.T.
Davis Milling Company, uh, Rutt's inspiration for Aunt Jemima was Billy Kersan's American-style, minstrel-y vaudeville song, quote, Old Aunt Jemima.
It's like a song about a slave who's like, uh, mistress promised me she would set me free when she died, but she's like 120 years old now and still living and still hanging on.
So she's still not free?
Yeah.
Written in 1875, Rutt reportedly saw a minstrel show featuring the quote old Aunt Jemima song in the fall of 1889 presented by blackface performers identified by Arthur F. Marquette as quote Baker and Farrell.
Marquette recounts that the actor playing Aunt Jemima wore an apron and kerchief.
However, Doris Witt at University of Iowa was unable to confirm Marquette's account.
Witt suggests that Rutt might have witnessed a performance by the vaudeville performer Pete F. Baker, who played characters described in newspapers of that era as, quote, Ludwig and, quote, Aunt Jemima.
His portrayal of the Aunt Jemima character, listen to this, try to follow along with this.
Yes.
His portrayal of the Aunt Jemima character may have been a white male in blackface pretending to be a German immigrant imitating a black menstrual parodying an imaginary black female slave cook.
Incredible.
Incredible.
So the genesis of this spokesperson, this spokesperson who definitely existed, who we all love, we all love her so much, is a fucking white guy pretending to be a strudel guzzling German immigrant making fun of a minstrel performer posing as a black slave cook.
Which is wild because, like, was that actually, like, some genius-level shit?
Was that some, like, beautiful satire?
It was the first irony.
He was the first irony performer we know of.
He's like, listen...
Listen, racism is so bad that only German immigrants would get with it.
The only dirty Germans would get with it.
I don't know, if Django Unchained has led me to believe anything, it would be that the German immigrant would probably not do blackface.
That's true, that's true.
Yeah, because they're making fun of...
So yeah, was this about German immigrants being snowflakes?
Is that what this was?
No, it was like, I don't know, maybe making fun of a German person not understanding the fine art of minstrelry who then makes fun of minstrelry.
They're making fun of someone doing like minstrelry but not racist enough.
Just like imagine being such a, having such a pudding brain, having such a dog brain that you're like, this is my friend.
This, this, this is like, this is like somebody who gave me comfort and like suck, aid and sucker and during the hard times is like a fucking fart, like the equivalent of like a fart joke where people actually died because of it.
Like people died in poverty in this fart joke.
And that's like your fond memories of, I don't know, having a kinship with this spokesperson.
And like the layers of how bad it gets it's like oh no this isn't just someone making you know um making money off of an actual like black person's identity and it's not even someone making like money off of a made-up identity uh off of something more wholesome it's even more racist than that and actually there's another layer of racism on top of that it's it is it it is that bad it's like four layers of racism and people are like this was my aunt growing up yeah exactly
Um, Martin Johanic says, the company made her a rich woman.
Yep.
Um, and.
Okay.
So like in their, in their mind, the meme that's going around is that, and we'll get into like the Genesis of one of this, one of these memes, but this being like the output of that meme, the company made her a rich woman is interesting to me because even in their, like, Totally respectful, totally, you know, laudatory remembrance or, uh, you know, expressions about Aunt Jemima.
The way this motherfucker phrases it is, oh, the company fucking gave her everything.
It's like, don't you think that this was her recipe?
Like, isn't that what you think in your head?
Based on this meme that she died a millionaire because she sold the recipe to Quaker Oats?
Like, in your mind, you think that that's what happened and the way you've processed that is still to say the company made her a rich woman.
Totally.
Totally.
Not like, not like took advantage of her and stuff like that.
Uh, or you know, just, yeah, he took advantage of her.
It's like, no.
They gave her, gave her everything.
No, it sounds like what he's saying is like black people should be happy the company gave her the money that they did give her, which they didn't give her.
Yeah.
That's the vibe I get from that.
I think you're right.
Let me give you the actual history of Nancy Green again.
Nancy Green was born into slavery.
Yeah, Dave Milling had recently acquired the formula to a ready-mixed self-rising pancake flour from St.
Joseph Gazette editor Chris L. Rutt and Charles Underwood, and were looking to employ an African American woman as a mammy archetype to promote their new product.
It's right there.
It's actually just right there.
In 1893, Green was introduced as Aunt Jemima at the World's Columbian Exposition held in Chicago in the guise of a plantation slave, where it was her job to operate a pancake cooking display, her amiable personality and talent as a cook for the Walker family, whose children grew up to become Chicago Circuit Judge Charles M. Walker and Dr. Samuel Walker.
She wasn't a slave, but she was a, quote, cook for the Walker family, who put out a judge and a doctor.
Helped establish a successful showing of the product, for which she received a medal and certificate from the Expo officials.
After the Expo, Green was reportedly offered a lifetime contract.
That sounds so bad.
I know that's supposed to sound good, like a lifetime contract, but that sounds, in this context, sounds really bad.
Was reportedly offered a lifetime contract to adopt the Aunt Jemima moniker and promote the pancake mix.
However, it is likely this was part of the lore created for the character rather than Green herself.
This marked the beginning of a major promotional push by the company that included thousands of personal appearances and Aunt Jemima merchandising.
How many points do you think she got on the merchandising?
What do you think the back end was on the merchandise?
That's the whole thing.
She didn't get shit.
There's no fucking way.
Her fucking descendants sued Quaker Oats for money.
For unpaid benefits.
And they didn't win.
They didn't get it.
If Macaulay Culkin got screwed in the 90s, I'm pretty sure Aunt Jemima got real screwed in the late 1800s.
Nancy Green maintained her job with Davis Milling, which was renamed Aunt Jemima Mills Company in 1914.
Her primary- She should be so ballin'.
She should be crazy ballin'.
Okay, well this next sentence is gonna be a heartbreaker.
Her primary occupation as of 1910 was residential, quote, housekeeper, and she retained this position until her death in 1923.
God damn.
Like, just no integrity.
Just nothing.
She died a housekeeper.
She died a housekeeper.
And it's crazy because she died when, like, an auto accident happened and a car killed her.
Like, she was a bystander on the sidewalk and a car wreck happened and it, like, obliterated her.
oh my god it's crazy like this like her her and then she's just one of the spokes people one of the aunt jemima's but i think she was the most prominent one she was a prolific one but just yeah so the idea that she was a millionaire oh yeah she was a fucking millionaire also a housekeeper That's like so... She should have been kept after that.
She should have just had the most cush life ever after that.
And she still wouldn't have been getting paid what she deserved.
But instead they were like, I'll tell you what, we'll give you a job still.
You can have a job.
You just gotta clean all this shit up.
Oh no, you can't live here.
You can't have quarters.
But you can come and clock in and clock out.
People who are like, you know, Oh, uh, I, I just, I just like her as the brand, you know, I just respect, uh, you know, a black entrepreneur, like whatever they, they think that she actually, you know, you know, sold the recipe to, to Quaker Oats and Quaker Oats was honoring her or whatever.
Like, I, I wouldn't say, you know, automatically you're being patronizing or racist, but the fact that you think all of that happened.
In the 1890s or whatever?
Yeah, you're a fucking fool.
You're just racist.
You're too naive to not be racist, basically.
It's that whole rose-colored glasses thing that a lot of white people do where they think that segregation was a really long time ago.
And like I said, they even kind of think that there was a time in America before slave leave for black people.
What are these narratives you spun in your mind?
It's not like your grandparents drank from different water fountains.
It's not that wild.
Yeah, right.
It's recent history in the scope of things.
So I was like looking, because I saw so many people talk about how she was a millionaire.
She died the first black, like one of the first American black millionaires.
And I was like, where is this coming from?
Like, I didn't know if it was true or not.
I didn't think it was fucking true.
Not, you know, just by virtue of common sense, but also by like reading about her history and everything.
Like, it mentions her being a housekeeper when she died.
She's not a fucking millionaire, right?
Yeah.
I was like, where did this come from?
So I typed in, you know, Aunt Jemima, first black millionaire.
And I got a PolitiFact article about this meme.
Which has its origin in a Facebook post, of course.
I'm going to read here from PolitiFact.
The claim is made in an image shared in a June 17th Facebook post from Peggy Hubbard, a black Republican and former U.S.
Senate candidate.
How come she gets the title Republican if she's not like a politician?
That's kind of weird, right?
I think she probably made it known that she was a black Republican.
I think she was like, Good to meet ya, Peggy Hubbard, Black Republican.
It's just like so novel, like the idea is so novel that it just becomes part of her title.
Yeah, yeah.
A Black Republican and former U.S.
Senate candidate.
I'm happy it's there though, because it does bring some clarity to what we're about to read.
Totally.
Her post has been shared more than 186,000 times.
It came hours after the maker of the Aunt Jemima brand of syrup and pancakes announced it is removing the name and image because quote, Aunt Jemima's origins are based in a racial stereotype.
Quote, we, so this is the post.
This is the post from Peggy Hubbard.
Quote, we as black people don't know our history.
Here is something that Black History Month doesn't tell you.
They feed us BS and hide the truth from us.
Nancy Green aka Aunt Jemima was the first black millionaire.
She sold her pancake mix to General Mills Corp.
The joke's on us black people.
Ugh.
This is the most dangerous shit out there right now to me.
Like the only thing that's worse than like just libs is False information spread by black people right now because so many white people saw this, saw the posts, saw her picture, and was like, oh, oh, this is not only... this is a black woman.
I'm gonna... this has to be real.
Because, like, the... the idea of, like, the magic negro is very alive and well and everyday, especially with internet consumption.
Yeah.
Where, like, there's people that find so much comfort in, like, You know, the TikToks of a positive, beautiful black woman telling them to have a great day, and to water their plants, and check their white friends, and it feels good.
And so they believe anything that's being said by anyone who's black, as long as it serves their agenda.
So this is so fucking dangerous because, like, I'm happy it's just her spreading false information about Aunt Jemima and not something about, like, you know, black-on-black crime.
You know, like, cause that shit's fucking dangerous.
That's why people like, like, well, and like this, like someone like Terrence, like, that looks a little, that's a little more transparent, a little more obvious.
Cause they might not believe a MAGA hat, but they will believe just, uh, just, you know, a well, a well put together black woman, for sure.
Yeah, um, this post was deleted.
I went to her Facebook page.
I couldn't find this post.
Um, yeah, it had been shared more than 186,000 times in like two days or whatever.
And I couldn't find this exact post.
I just, I did find more like really inflammatory stuff about, uh, the black community.
Uh, she had some post that was like, Black Lives Matter is targeting snap, crackle and pop now because the idea of white elves on cereal is racist against black people.
Can you believe this?
And then she said, let me, let me tell you something about the black community.
Every weekend, black people snap and kill other black people and they crackle.
And they hurt other black people and then they pop off and they get into trouble.
Oh man, I hate her so much.
Just like insane like boomer racism.
The truth about Snap, Crackle, and Pop, though, is I do think that the, you know, the portrayal of, like, three white men beatboxing is just a, you know, a bit of a... It's a bit of appropriation, you know, it's a bit of, you know, using the culture for profit.
I do agree.
You could have made one of them.
You could have made one of them Puerto Rican.
I would have taken that.
I do agree that it's culture vulture shit.
It's like appropriation.
They should have to pay dues to the Beastie Boys if they want to be taken seriously.
Actually, yeah, they absolutely should because there's three of them.
Uh, yeah.
So that's where this originates from.
Oh, she was a millionaire.
She was the first millionaire.
And actually she loved being a slave before she was freed.
And then when she was freed, she was like, Hey, that's cool too.
And then they get made her a millionaire because she was black.
And like, you know, I don't know why people need reparations now.
She got them all back then.
She got all the, all the reparations back then.
Imagine thinking there was a black woman millionaire in America in like 1910.
You fucking idiot.
What the fuck?
If that shit was real, then I think civil rights would have literally happened earlier.
I think it would have literally started earlier.
What the fuck?
I've heard stories about wealthy black women, but it's like few and far between, and it certainly isn't like...
Oh, she fucking worked really hard and like sold a recipe or whatever.
I think it was like, I think there was a black millionaire, but she was like, she inherited it from her like husband or her lover or something like that.
Like that's the only possible way you could have been a black, you know, a wealthy black person back then.
Let alone just a woman.
Yeah.
You know?
It's insane.
What a wild... I wanna live in that fuckin' world, man.
I wanna live in the world they think is happening.
A few more comments here.
Warren Squires said, the black community should be boastful of such an image.
It is not derogatory or insulting.
It should be inspiring dot dot dot.
But they are blinded by quote PC efforts dot dot dot dot dot dot.
And one more thing dot dot dot dot.
Shouldn't they put a hat on MR dot clean?
Which always takes me a second.
It's Mr. Clean.
Uh-huh.
Shouldn't they put a hat on Mr. Clean for those that are offended by being bald?
Shameful!
What?
What are you saying?
Are you saying that that fucking beefcake is like bad representation of bald people?
I think he's saying like people, a lot of people, they don't like to look at like bald men.
It's like disgusting, you know?
Is he looking for bald people to speak up for themselves?
They're just confused.
It's utter confusion.
Those that are offended by being bald.
Like, he doesn't know what he's talking.
He doesn't know whether it's bald people who are offended by being bald, or other people who are offended by looking at a bald person.
It's just, it's, you know, grasping at straws.
Another person said something about, like, oh, are they gonna ban the Jolly Green Giant because it's offensive to short people?
That's actually kind of funny.
I'm gonna go ahead and give him that note.
But it's still wrong.
It doesn't fit the rubric because it's not like white people were offended by seeing a black person on Syrup like short people seeing a tall person would be offended.
They can't even wrap their minds around what's going on.
They can't even process the actual axis of analysis or context or perspective that's going on when people say, hey, this racial stereotype is harmful.
I don't know, it would be like...
If they said something like, oh, are Jews gonna boycott Hogwarts or Harry Potter for its depiction of the banking... Yeah, that would make sense.
That would make sense, and it would be like, okay.
Yeah, that would make sense, yeah.
Yeah, and if you're for that, then I guess, you know, you could take a stand on that.
Yeah, go for it, go for it.
It would be like if skinheads got mad about Mr. Clean.
Well, he would be, I don't know, he'd be like the best representation of a skinhead, though.
That's true.
Because I don't think Mr. Clean's racist.
I think he's a non-racist skin.
I don't know, man.
He is in direct competition with the pine-tall lady.
And, like, that's kind of fucked up.
What are the scrubbing bubbles?
What race are the scrubbing bubbles?
Yeah, I don't know.
What race do you think they are, Tony?
I haven't heard them talk yet, so I can't tell you how they speak.
Oh, so Italians.
Oh no, if they were Italian, we'd hear them a long time ago.
Yeah, that's true.
All we'd do is hear them.
They're probably Swedes.
That makes more sense.
Or maybe they're Canadians, because it's like curling.
Norm Simpson says Aunt Jemima always stood for quality and goodness.
Dot, dot, dot.
But I guess it's now racist to attribute those quality, apostrophe s, to black people.
Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
Okay.
Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
You got it.
Dot, dot, dot, dot.
I promise to no longer think of black people that way.
Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
So what makes me think that he might be being serious is that he does capitalize black.
So maybe he does have some respect for black people.
Well, he did.
He did, but thanks a lot.
God damn it, Quaker Oats.
We had somebody on our side and now we lost him.
I love seeing this shit.
This is like a comment I didn't include, but like every time I see this shit where it's like some brand changes their logo or some, you know, cultural or entertainment fixture makes an overture about, you know, race relations or Racism or something.
You can bet you'll find a white person in the comments saying, this has set back race relations for years.
Yep.
It's like, good to know dude.
That's all it took?
That's all it took right there?
Good to know that's how one white man feels about it.
Yeah, I was ready to change, but now I can't.
I was so close to respecting Black people.
Yeah, I was so close.
I mean, it's been long enough since Obama's been in office, I can maybe give him another chance, and now you guys took quality away from Black people, so now I can't trust anything.
This is like another instance of, I mean, Obama made me racist is the big one.
Like, that's the big, big one.
There was no racism problem until Obama came here and now I'm racist.
I told you my actual grandma recently told me that Obama was worse for black people than Trump was.
Yeah, that's the meme.
That's, I mean, everybody's grandma.
I'm just sad that my actual grandma said it.
It sucks.
That really sucks.
Yeah, it was brutal.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, but this is, I think, Quaker Oats made me be racist.
I didn't want to be racist, but Quaker Oats fucking made me.
Irene Cantrell says, I love... Last comment.
Irene Cantrell says, I love Aunt Jemima and I know she loves me.
I think they ought to at least ask her if she want her picture off the pancake mix she made famous.
A lot of children grew up loving her.
And the pancakes!
That's a good question.
Has anybody talked to Aunt Jemima?
Has anybody asked Aunt Jemima how she feels about it?
Wow, Tony.
You really think that America cares what a black woman thinks?
Oof.
You got a good point there.
You got a real good point there.
Holy shit.
Not if she's not shaking her ass.
Tell you that much.
Okay, so as you can tell by the title, uh, this is the first half of our Conservative Women Through History epic, uh, this week.
And, uh, they should be released co-currently, so you can just move right on to the second part of this, which is, uh, insane.
You might not know who Deanna Lorraine is, but you will.
I'll take back your kisses somewhere else.
Before I start the hand to push away.
All the force I make you eat you shit red flags.
'Cause no one will care.
I've been on a cradle of riot.
I don't know.
The breaking of the bed Shot your silver lining in the face All the laughs you made us eat we shit right out Cause no one will care
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