We're talking DACA, immigration, and sh!tholes this week and, as always, reporting on Facebook's response: Joe the plumber resurfaces to get bullied by his coworkers and assert that refugees and undocumented immigrants can vote. Immigrants should stay in their home countries and get rich working the mines, the Titanic brought my grandpa to America and you don't hear me complaining about it, DACA recipients get free college and possibly even a personal slave? And finally, an uplifting segment about how happy the Deplorables are since Trump's election. Please take a second to recommend the show to a friend and rate/review us in iTunes. It would be super helpful, and we'd appreciate it.
People get us confused because we're both black and white.
George Bush doesn't care about black people?
That's one of the greatest quotes of all time.
I miss Kanye.
He got bought up by money.
The most amazing thing about that quote is it managed to shut Michael Myers the fuck up.
That's amazing.
It almost ended his career.
What did he do after that?
Nothing.
Stopped him in his tracks.
If you're able to get Mike Myers to shut the fuck up, that is a feat of superhuman strength.
He did.
The look on his face was the best thing ever.
And what did he do?
He just froze up.
No, but his career-wise.
Yeah, I mean he made the love guru.
He did the love guru.
The love guru.
Kanye broke him.
Michael Myers.
The monopoly of Myers.
Dude, Kanye fucked him up so bad he made the love guru.
No, The Love Guru is like probably the most racist movie that Mike Myers has seen.
Yeah, because he's like brown-facing as an Indian in prison.
Yeah, he's brown-facing the whole time.
It's The Love Guru!
Yeah, it's fucked up.
Wow.
The liberals are destroying California and conservative humor gone awry... conservative humor gone awry is going to fascist-fornia today, so stay tuned.
We're going to take a few pictures of the desert and how their policies are actually messing it up.
It's not beautiful when you go across that border, but stay tuned guys and we'll show you exactly what it looks like when you see it.
All right, I'm Alexander Edward.
I'm Mount Matt.
I'm Tony Boswell.
And this is our guest, Eric Garcia.
How you doing, buddy?
Jumping in there.
Doing fantastic today.
Yeah, and we are Minion Death Cult, and we obviously have a guest today.
Our buddy Eric Garcia is joining us.
We're very happy to have him.
A friend from way back, he also studied political science at UC Berkeley, so we actually have somebody smart on this podcast, which is great to have.
And he's here to talk with us about DACA today.
And obviously Trump's shithole comments, which are probably already irrelevant at this point, shitholegate, it's like...
Already on to the next thing.
By the time this episode comes out, you know, it'll be a distant memory in the listener's mind, but DACA won't.
The immigration debate will not.
And so, of course, today we are talking about Facebook's response to just the immigration debate.
You know, we have a lot of just rich veins of thought to mine here tonight.
We can stereotype Facebook by assuming everyone on Facebook is like 40 to 60 year old white people.
Mm-hmm.
So Facebook is just 40 to 60 year old white people and that's what we're analyzing.
Yeah, that's not a stereotype.
We've done the research.
Every single person on Facebook is 40 to 60 years old and white.
Oh, yeah, I forgot that.
Yeah, we became very prepared for this episode.
Okay, so let's get into the first one.
This was one of those, it's not quite a meme, it's not quite a macro, image macro, it's just a colorful text post.
It's like word art.
It's super common now.
I see it, now that I've rejoined Facebook, I see this standard of, I guess, cheap meme.
It's a cheap meme?
It's Facebook WordArt.
You hit the little WordArt button and it turns your words into art.
Oh, so it is WordArt.
Okay.
And the background on this WordArt is, of course, brown.
And the text says, We bring people from shithole countries because shithole Democrats need shithole votes so they can turn America into a shithole.
Do you agree?
Question mark?
And so this was, uh, I can't remember who posted the original one, but it was shared into one of the Deplorables group, and a variation of this question, this meme, went viral on several different accounts.
So it doesn't really matter who posted it.
But, um, yeah, shithole votes.
What counts as a shithole vote?
They caught us, man.
They totally figured it out.
A shithole vote is just a vote you don't like, right?
That's what a shithole vote is?
I think a shithole vote is, uh, shithole color.
Oh, fuck.
Like, brown town?
Yeah, brown town.
I was thinking, like, shithole, like, you're in a port-a-potty casting your vote.
Yeah.
Shithole vote.
Um, basically, like, after doing prep for this episode, it's come to my attention that, like,
People are just really fucking wrong about immigration, and they're really fucking wrong about everything that that entails, and it's most likely because they've never known an immigrant, they've never looked at a brown person twice, they have no friends from other countries, and so they literally think that refugees or undocumented immigrants can vote.
Yeah, she's insane.
And they think that they're given like a like...
Like a year's salary when they arrive or something like, here's $100,000 to do what you will with, you know what I mean?
Like this whole shit about like, which we'll get into the comments, but like, they think that these people are getting free schooling, like all kinds of shit.
Yeah, that's the next meme is the free schooling that every single immigrant gets when you come to America.
These people are just like, Unaware that undocumented immigrants are, you can't get Social Security, you can't get Medicare, can't get Medicaid, you can't get any federal benefits.
Some states do give out like grants to undocumented immigrants, but guess what?
They also give out grants to white kids.
Yeah.
The moral of the story is like, You can't fucking vote if you're an undocumented citizen.
You can't vote if you're a refugee.
You have to be a citizen.
You literally have to be a citizen to vote.
They really have no clue how voting works at all.
They don't understand voting rights at all.
They don't understand how hard it is for some Americans who were born here who just happen to be, you know, from a certain background to vote, let alone immigrants who can't at all.
If you told them that American felons can't vote, they'd probably, mine would be blown.
They just wouldn't believe you.
Yeah.
They can't vote, they just don't because they're felons.
Okay, let's get into some comments here underneath this meme.
James Neal says, Charity begins at home.
If our own have children and them theirs will we have room?
What?
If our own have children and them theirs, will we have room and jobs to go around?
Don't you think we have Hispanocrats from backward places diluting our wealth and culture enough already?
Which, this is the first time I've heard Hispanocrats.
I really like that.
I kind of like that one.
Yeah, I think that one might be embraced.
They're pretty solid on that one.
They're pretty important in the elections, too, I'd say.
It's just, it's...
To be honest, it's actually not a homogenous vote.
That's the absurdity of this whole thing.
You look at Cuban Floridians, and they are so solidly Republican.
And so it's like the Hispanic vote, which is looked at as this monolithic voting bloc, is actually riddled with massive differentiation.
Well, that's because they think of Hispanics as a single voting bloc because they think of Hispaniol as one country.
And they think of non-white people as one voting bloc.
And it's amazing why they won't vote for conservatives.
Yeah.
I mean, what's so interesting though is like we said, I think in the last episode, there is that swath of second generation Mexican guys I know that are like cops now.
Right.
Or border patrol.
That's fucked.
That's the biggest thing.
There's a there's mad conservatism and like not like i wouldn't say yeah maybe boomer hispanics i guess or like maybe even a little younger than that um like i i noticed it big time in redlands like yeah um yeah like you know like the the police like the crossfit guys like crossfit for
That even like the ones that are like either first generation immigrants or first generation American that think that like their family made it here first and then no one else should make it through.
Which I got that sentiment from people.
You gotta look at how high their truck is.
Like how lifted their truck is, it correlates extremely with how conservative they are.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I mean I'm not Hispanic, but I'm gonna break that like stereotype and get a mad lifted truck.
And just be like, I'm a fucking communist, bruh.
What do you want to do, huh?
Take it back, take it back, lift the truck.
Take back the lifted truck.
We need to bring that one back.
Yeah, we need to take that shit back to the I.E.
We need to repurpose that one.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, but you gotta, okay, but it's gotta run on like, you know, I don't know, electricity or... Canola oil.
Canola oil.
There you go, there you go.
Imagine a badass lifted Tesla truck.
Dude, I used to want a Hummer so bad to do that too.
I mean, I still kind of do.
Eco Hummer.
Yeah, that's sick.
I love this, so let's re-examine this guy's comment.
We will have room and jobs to go around.
So like, first of all, like this dude is complaining like he doesn't have enough room.
Like he's just drowning in Mexican immigrants.
Can he breathe in here?
Second of all, jobs to go around.
So this, the immigrant that he's referring to is Schrodinger's Immigrant, who is like simultaneously taking your job and taking your welfare money.
Like he's simultaneously not contributing to society and stealing your job.
Add more power to him because, you know, what a way to be.
That's a life right there.
Schrodinger's Immigrant.
Schrodinger's Immigrant.
I'd love to live that life.
Rick Farnsworth, who I'm going to call Professor Farnsworth, says, It has been humanitarian effort to help countries in need, but they seem bent on destroying themselves.
Puerto Rico has 24 murders!
Ding ding ding!
Ding ding ding!
Puerto Rico has 24 murders in January so far.
I wonder why.
I wonder why crime and violence has risen in Puerto Rico.
Can anyone think of an example?
I wonder, they maybe have no electricity.
Yeah, maybe it's because they don't have lights on.
It's because they stole it all.
It's because they stole all the electricity.
They mismanaged their electricity.
In the face of an environmental disaster and now what they're dealing with is murders.
They should have prepared and put electricity and fallout shelters.
They should have took an individual responsibility and had their own generators ready.
I think that's where we're going with this.
Because in America we all have our own generators.
We each have a generator.
I think Rick Farnsworth does.
I think that should be the new American dream is a generator for each household.
We actually do have a generator here.
So we're safe here.
I guarantee you what happened is Puerto Rico was stealing cable and electricity from Florida and they ran cables under the water.
And then Trump was like, fuck this, and so he turned on the heart machine and then sent a hurricane to Puerto Rico to fuck it up.
There was just like a giant tube running from the AC in Florida to Puerto Rico.
Yo, as a Mexican who grew up all his life with illegal cable, I'm very sympathetic right now.
I'm a white kid who grew up with illegal satellite.
There's commonality there.
Dude, you just had the little chip, you had the little card, you slid into your receiver and you could watch the Playboy Channel.
It was fucking tight.
I literally watched Scream 20 times.
In 1993, I think.
Just the beginning, though.
So far, okay.
Puerto Rico, that country that we've been trying to help.
Puerto Rico.
It's just a country.
Has 24 murders in January so far.
I love how knowledgeable he is about that specific fact.
About the number of murders in Puerto Rico.
Nothing else, like the fact that they're not a fucking country.
None of that information has crossed this guy's desk.
Or not only the fact that they're not a country, but they're literally a colony.
They are literally a colony.
Puerto Rico is a colony.
And it's like the same logic of this of like Puerto Rico.
It's like the same thing where like conservatives or like right-wing people like reference like killings in Chicago every weekend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like it's literally to like call towards like brown and black violence and like to like make this like a cultural thing that we're like savages.
I don't want to go off on a tangent too bad, but I literally have the answer as to why that occurs.
It's called gerrymandering, districting, and segregation.
Or white flight, yeah.
I mean, I maybe have referenced Crips and Bloods Made in America on this Podcast before great dr. Stacy Peralta made that documentary is one of the most enlightening documentaries ever watched regarding like American race politics Basically, it's it's an entire rectangle of of LA from North Long Beach all the way up to the fucking up to downtown or whatever that is there It's a big rectangle that was you know
It was bordered off by banks and and the local governments including with Redlined.
Yeah, to make sure that people of this type can only be in these surrounding neighborhoods and then people of color can only go on this block.
And that shit is not that far away.
No, it's still happening.
It didn't happen that long ago and it's still happening.
People are like, you know, slavery, get over it.
No, that's like two-thirds of America's history is slavery.
Exactly!
It's not that fucking long ago, and also Englewood and South Chicago is a perfect example of that fucking redlining.
And that's why you have the systematic poverty breeds violence, and that's all there is to it.
And not only that, if you think about it on a world scale, like why there's shitholes Quote-unquote.
It's like why there's shitholes is like the reason that there exists to be shitholes like look at like the countries that Trump referenced in his most recent tirade is like Haiti, El Salvador, like Africa as a country.
It's a continent and there's many countries within it.
Is it really?
I think so.
No, Africa is a territory.
Africa is a continent, which has many countries within it.
Right.
But the thing is, is that, is that like the reason that they are like, like when they try to not be shitholes and they try to be developed, like they're developing countries that try to like, like exert their autonomy.
Like every time that has existed in history, they've been like, by the united states whether it's the monroe doctrine or whatever it may be like the united states has constantly overthrown governments that have have like tried to like shut it down yeah they tried to like do whatever they could to do what was best for their own people
And the reason for that, exactly, is because we are strip mining these countries, making them shitholes.
And any time a workers' rights program comes up, anything like that happens, it gets smacked down.
And that's what happened in Haiti, for instance.
Puerto Rico was the first slave rebellion.
And it created their own independent country.
And they've been punished.
They literally had to pay France for the losses in the slave trade.
They literally had to pay back France.
And Puerto Rico, while we're on the subject, Puerto Rico didn't get bailed out like Texas.
It got a fucking loan.
And it might not even get the loan now.
Okay, it didn't get helped with its massive hurricane.
No, they're still in shambles.
They're still completely in shambles.
They literally have no electricity, and that's probably a reason for the uptick in violence there.
They literally just got some of it back today, and it was a huge deal.
Oh, man.
Like, some of it.
Not even close to half of it.
But some of it got back today, and it's a huge deal.
Like, there's hope now.
Yeah.
Like, that's how bad it's been.
Dude, let's laugh.
To keep it even more simple, this number 24 murders, I might be wrong, and I'm just taking a wild guess.
There's probably been more than 24 murders in America since then.
Probably more than 24 murders committed by white men since then.
Perhaps.
Close to double digits by cops since then.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
So, it's like, what a crazy number.
Well, we, you know, Professor Farnsworth here, like, we're giving him a lot of credit with this number, but he could be wrong, you know, he's just human, like all of us, you know, he sometimes misremembers numbers, sometimes he fights car dealers.
I went on his profile.
Is he the local boy, Mark Christopher?
Yeah, I went on his profile and he posted, almost came to blows with arrogant confrontational salesperson.
And then he posted his own Yelp review of Mark Christopher Auto Center where he almost fought car dealers.
That's local, right?
Mark Christopher?
It sounds familiar.
I feel like that's like Ontario or some shit.
Yeah, so you know, I mean...
Slipped up.
He's only human.
We all do.
He's a reasonable guy.
Who the fuck?
You know when you go to buy a car with your sons and you almost fight the salesperson?
That's the funny thing about this whole Trump shit.
It's like literally he is a used car salesman.
Like embodied.
Well that's his whole base.
He's a junk box salesman.
He's just emboldening through his rhetoric and tough guy stance.
These literally fail sons of the world.
There's a stereotype that Trump's base is poor people.
Now, some poor people did vote for Trump.
But your stereotype of like the white trash hick in the Ozarks or whatever being Trump's base isn't as accurate as you might think.
Trump's base is the used car dealer.
Trump's base is the small business owner who comes in on January 9th chanting, build that wall.
To his four employees he's paying under the table, you know, that's who Trump's base is.
And yeah, sure, they didn't go to college, they're uneducated, but that doesn't mean that they're not in the, you know, upper middle class.
Why would they go get brainwashed at a college?
You know, they'll get swayed over to the left.
And like their brain nice and dirty.
Well, these people, they are the people that want to work smarter and not harder.
You know what I'm saying?
More power to them, Alex.
And the thing is, I think you make a good point in that people oftentimes say this white working class is the reason we have Trump.
But if you look statistically after the exit interviews and everything of the voters and everything, it's like you see that it wasn't necessarily the white working class that voted Trump in.
Suburbs!
It was like suburbs.
It was a suburban people with money.
It was the, it was the religious, right.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Having Mike Pence and have having the like religious, right.
Yeah.
Having Trump say token things about abortion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then like, and then basically giving up the, the, um, Supreme court nomination as well.
That was a huge thing.
And, but it like with a historical, like example, that's like very similar is that, uh, fascism in Germany when it arose, it wasn't the working class.
The base for fascism in Germany was the moneyed middle class.
The fruit stand runner.
It's because they have the most to lose.
They see something changing.
They see their privilege evaporating, or they don't see it happening, but they predict it happening.
Any inkling of that, and it's just, yeah, fucking tiki torches.
Right now.
Let's go.
We may have found the mechanism for the way that power has shifted in elections in this country.
It's whoever has the most to lose.
Okay, next comment.
Jan Lash Thomas says, yup.
I got tired of being told that we made too much money and considering my husband's care and that of our disabled daughter.
But there were people in this country who weren't even citizens were getting assistance.
Does anyone else see a problem here?
I got a citation.
I see a couple problems here.
Yeah.
First of all, you got your husband is in some sort of long term hospital care and your daughter is disabled.
Yeah, those are problems.
Those are big problems that, you know, the government should maybe have a hand in tackling.
You know, maybe we should pool resources and help you out there, Jan.
Good idea.
Maybe.
Or you could just get on Facebook and cry about brown people.
Non-existent brown people who definitely don't get free money from the government.
Well, her only option is to start a GoFundMe at this point for her living expenses.
But that's the whole thing, is she doesn't have to.
She's saying, people are giving me shit for making money, but these people really deserve the shit.
It's like, well, first of all, I hope no one's giving you shit.
I think she's saying the government is telling her she makes too much money to qualify for assistance.
Yeah.
I think that's what this is.
And it's like, I don't know, unless you're independently wealthy, if your husband needs care and your daughter's disabled, like, I hope he was an oil tycoon before he had a stroke.
And that's the whole thing.
It's like conservatives are literally weaponizing the fact that we don't have benefits.
There is a commonality between shitholers, so to say.
And girthers.
And people who don't have anything.
White people and brown people.
There is a commonality there.
We could really benefit from having resources.
That aren't predicated on what you make, etc.
Like universal healthcare, for instance.
We could really benefit from that.
And the conversation has shifted so far to the right that, A, welfare.
Suppose that the immigrants that we're talking about here, suppose they do get welfare.
Welfare is still such a small slice of what the country does with its money that just that conversation is absurd.
But we're not even having that conversation.
We're having the conversation about non-existent immigrants on welfare.
That's where the conversation is at.
And it's a very popular conversation.
It's a very popular thought process that's happening all across Facebook.
That's that's like where we've gotten ourselves rhetorically.
Well, I know people like like to reference 1984 all the time, but I mean, we are living there now.
Like you tell yourself something so much that you start to believe it.
What do they call that?
Doublespeak?
There is.
I mean, there's like this is the thing is, is like with this whole like welfare benefits, this is all doublespeak.
This is like this is like dog whistling.
Yeah.
Like, in the sense that, you know, we're literally, this is what Trump is doing.
This is why he's so dangerous.
This is what this whole, like, we may laugh about shitholes and et cetera, and it's actually really funny, you know, to hear everyone say shithole all the time.
No, it is funny, and it's silly, and it's like nobody gives a shit that he cussed.
Like, that's not the thing.
No, no, no, but that's the thing that's so dangerous is the policy.
Yeah, exactly.
like it's the the cussing and all that stuff it's like it's what what's really funny is like watching all like the CNN people and all these oh all these like news media people being like oh my god the president is racist We are going to exclaim that right now.
This today.
This is what this whole week was.
You know that they feel so proud of themselves for calling an obvious racist racist?
And it's also just so funny to see these nerds get so excited to say shithole on cable television.
Yeah, so I kept seeing in my Instagram feed, I'd see I think Worldstar posted like a clip of like a bunch of news anchors.
So they were actually saying shithole on the air?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Like I didn't click on the... It was just like a really brave editorial decision in the face of power to curse on TV.
Acknowledge.
It's like literally like Pee Wee's word of the week.
Shit hole.
Oh my God.
Wee wee wee wee wee.
Let me get into this next comment.
Anthony Abate says, If you don't think those countries are shitholes, then you've probably never been anywhere overseas or outside of a resort town in those countries.
Again, Americans have a tremendous ignorance for the rest of the world.
There is no other country on Earth that is like ours.
So this dude is saying that Americans are ignorant because they don't think other countries are just blanket shitholes.
Like, that's the American ignorance that this guy is talking about.
Oh, well, you must have not... Wow, if you think this this totally closed-minded thing, then you must not have experienced the world around you to see that everywhere else besides America truly is fucking disgusting and horrible and a shithole.
Well, this guy, I mean, it's just funny because he's like, you have to travel abroad.
To, like, learn how bad it is.
To learn what a shithole is.
So you have to be affluent and, like, you know, go on vacation a bunch.
I don't know.
It just seems like a very... This guy is... I don't know.
This guy's such a shitbag, though, that he's like, no, guys, I've seen it.
I've seen the shithole.
I've been there with my own eyes.
I've seen what these people are living in, the filth, the horrible conditions.
But still, we don't want to help them.
Therefore, we don't want to help them.
Exactly.
That's what's offensive.
He's even saying America is so lucky and so privileged that we can be ignorant to those things, because a lot of us absolutely are, the fact that they don't understand what the role of poverty really is.
No, poverty is contagious, man.
If you look at it, you might become poor.
Yeah, and if you let it in, you're definitely going to become poor.
Definitely can't look you in the eyes.
That's what is offensive about this whole thing, and that's what a lot of the media fervor around shithole has sort of glossed over, because in these deplorable groups, Uh, the response mainly, I don't think I have a meme specifically, uh, denoting this, but the response typically was, Oh, well, if these places aren't shitholes, then why don't the immigrants go back there?
Or if they aren't, if they aren't shitholes, then why are they fleeing them?
And it's like, The problem isn't that these countries are amazing and in every single way possible and Trump called them shitholes because he's racist.
The problem is that yes, there are wars and violence going on in these countries and people need help and Trump decided to call them shitholes instead of helping them.
Like, that's what the problem is, and that's what makes him racist, because he wants people from Norway instead of Haiti.
That's what makes him racist.
Well, and the whole thing is, like, the ending, like, prior to this whole shit whole thing, there's, like, the ending of the Temporary Protective Status, or TPS.
And it's, so, like, countries like Haiti or El Salvador, like, these countries were, like, then, you know, it's like, there was this whole shift From, you know, like, what they call chain migration, which was like re-connecting families.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Can you just briefly explain chain migration?
Well, it's this whole, like, program of immigration in the United States, which was... Like prioritizing families?
Prioritizing reuniting families and linking them together.
And the whole debate recently about, which was like, what is spieless about the Democrats?
Like the Democrats are complicit in this process.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're so fucking complicit.
They're enablers.
Yeah, they're enablers.
Especially with DACA.
Well, especially in the DACA thing.
Because DACA is this negotiating chip that Trump is holding over in order to, to push forward his The wall and funding border security.
and funding, you know, more border security. - Which is so stupid because every single Democrat wants more border funding.
You won't even find a Democrat who has the nuts to say, we don't need to spend any more money on border security, it's already a fucking militarized zone down there.
None of them are even willing to say that, so they're automatically coming from a point of weakness in these negotiations, because they want exactly what Trump wants.
They want more border funding.
And the whole thing is, as well, this didn't start with Trump, this didn't start with Obama, this was going way back towards Clinton in Operation Gatekeeper.
And Operation Gatekeeper was the initial phase of border security in the United States that Sorry to interrupt, even us using the phrase border security, that phrase itself is propaganda.
That phrase itself is right wing propaganda.
But it's like, that's the term we use, border security.
That's like the politically correct term for having, you know, patrols of Death squads kicking over water for migrants and destroying, you know, destroying water supplies or food supplies for people who are otherwise going to die in the desert.
Like, we're calling that border security.
This shit is wild.
Yeah, we have these people who are literally saying, you know, we don't even want to catch them and put them, you know, catch them and put them back where they belong.
We want them to die.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I'm sure that if you got them off mic, they would totally say that.
They would totally say, no, if they die, then they're not our problem.
It's less work.
Well, their actions are doing that.
What you just described, I mean, there was that article in the Guardian, I was reading in the Guardian, there was a recent study that was put out that border security are literally, there are people who are putting water and stuff.
Just jugs of water.
Just for migrants who are crossing the border, they lack in basic water supply for their long trip.
And, like, they are literally kicking over and destroying- There's videos of it.
Yeah, they're kicking over and destroying these waters.
There's like thousands of gallons of water that they've literally destroyed.
There is a video of a white man in a uniform looking into the camera saying, make sure you get a good shot of this as he pours the gallon jug of water on the ground.
Yeah, that's cool, man.
That's gonna age well.
The thing is though, this wasn't happening just in Trump, this was happening in Obama.
Obama had massive deportation.
What I don't get is why do they need the water if they have those cantaloupes in their legs, like Steve King said.
Just drink the cantaloupe juice.
- Just drink the cantaloupe juice.
- Can't they just drink, you know, cactus water or whatever, man?
- It's cactus water, it's delicious.
I can get down on some of that.
Okay, next.
So let's move on to the exact same post, this time except done by our boy Joe the Plumber.
And I just want to say that- Joe P. Joey P. Joe the P. Joe the P. Joe the fucker.
This is the Joe the Plumber from, like, the one that you know of, that you heard of.
Yeah, that's the one.
I had totally forgotten about Joe the Plumber until I saw that this post was shared on somebody else's page who I was lurking.
He's probably more of a piece of shit now than he was back then.
Dude, he sucks so bad.
Like, Joe the Plumber, I was saying this off the show before we started recording, Joe the Plumber is, like, such a good benchmark for this, like, bizarro world we live in.
Like Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber, it's like the same period of time that just totally destroyed American politics.
I'm not saying America was great before that, but just the cartoonization of politics.
This is a real landmark in that.
Him and Sarah Palin, we all remember Sarah Palin.
And her kid track.
And race car.
Depending on how old you are, the sight of Sarah Palin becoming a national figure was just such a bizarre moment in my life.
That's almost more memorable than the first black president.
I was inspired by Obama.
I voted for Obama.
Fuck yeah.
But something about seeing Sarah Palin being elevated to that level was just far more shocking and jarring.
It was so bizarro.
It prefigured Trump.
Like, literally.
It prefigured Trump.
She is the prototype.
She was literally the test subject for this.
Like, can this happen?
And so was Bachman, a little, you know?
Michelle Bachman.
Yeah, but she never gained, like, the national... I feel like she was...
Just because of that weird eye.
She's always kind of like a... Like you need to be able to look your constituents in the eye.
Did she have a stroke or something?
She was this caricature of this, you know, this woman of God who... A regular American.
...tells it like it is.
And yeah, she was the prototype for Trump.
And they're like, what's wrong with this prototype?
Oh yeah, it's a woman.
Oh, okay.
It's a woman, and it's not rich, and it's not smart enough.
So we have to make... Oh, she's actually inbred.
No, she's too smart, actually.
She's too smart and not savvy enough.
She's definitely rich, though.
She's for sure rich.
I'm pretty sure she was shooting wildlife from helicopters.
She's Alaska rich, though.
Oil money.
But Joe the Plumber is... Joe the P. Elevated at the, he was elevated, same exact time.
Like McCain Palin literally took this dude who got famous for asking Obama, telling Obama he wanted to open up a plumbing company.
That's why people call him Joe the Plumber, is because he wanted to open up a plumbing company.
Like, people looked into his history, he wasn't even fucking licensed to be a plumber.
Like, this dude just was like, uh, I wanna be a small business owner one day, and they were like, holy shit, this is our new hero.
Holy fuck.
And they elevated him, and they took him on tour, and he did, like, commercials for other things.
And I was just reading about him on Wikipedia and there's this great quote, it's in February 2014, Wurzelbacher, which is his real name, Joe the Wurzelbacher.
He's probably a fellow Polack.
Nah, he's probably Jewish, dude.
He took a job at a Jeep plant, which required him to be a member of the United Auto Workers.
Boo!
Boo, unions!
Boo, Obama saved his job!
Oh my god, we want to protect ourselves from dying on the job!
Boo, we bailed out the auto companies!
Yeah, so he worked at Jeep and had to become a member of the United Auto Workers, and he complained that his colleagues have called him a teabagger.
which oh man i fucking love that like yeah it's like a homophobic slur but i still just fucking love it so much oh man like just get like even his co-workers like dude you suck like we're all probably terrible people to some extent too but man you suck dude i love you just got you just got He got bullied at work.
Everyone knew he was the snitch.
On the job.
Everyone was like, fuck this guy.
We have proto-solidarity with each other.
We know each other.
And this fucking guy wants to come into our workplace and be a loud mouthed asshole.
We all know that guy.
We all know that person at work.
Fuck that person.
He's probably 5'4".
Don't you think our managers should be getting paid a little more?
like yeah I've worked in one of these places before I think I can improve you know the way you guys operate here don't you think our managers should be getting paid a little more don't you think I should be a manager oh yeah no this dude definitely didn't get invited to union meetings Exactly.
They lost this dude's cell phone number real fucking quick.
And he's the most literal teabagger.
Didn't he, like, speak at teabag rallies?
Like, oh sorry, tea party rallies?
Yeah.
Like, he's a literal teabagger.
I mean, he's... That's the one way to say it to where it's, like, not really a slur.
You're talking about people from the tea party, teabaggers.
Yeah, we'll say that.
Okay, Gerald Miles replies.
He's replying to the shithole meme, the shithole thing.
We bring people from shithole countries because shithole Democrats need shithole votes so they can turn America into a shithole.
Do you agree?
Do you agree with his declarative statement?
And Gerald Miles says, agreed.
Educated people from progressive countries would benefit America in general and be less likely to vote Democrat.
People, let me read that back.
Educated people from progressive countries would be less likely to vote Democrat.
He has no clue how demographics work.
You know, he might be right and not know it, because like, if you're super educated, you probably know that like, the whole system's bullshit, and you'll vote.
The smart way, if you really know what's good.
Right, which is libertarian.
Exactly.
No, you'll vote- Gary Johnson, dude.
No, you'll vote independent.
You'll vote independent in the primary.
You'll vote indepe- yeah, you'll vote for the independent candidate, which, like, in California is a very right-wing party.
You know what sucks?
I was actually a registered independent because I thought- So was I, dude.
Because I thought it was the same thing.
Oh, an independent party.
Yeah.
Well, my grandma taught- my grandma was like, I'm independent, and she's like, you should probably register independent, and I was like, okay, at 18, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but it's the American Independent Party.
It's not the no party preference.
Right.
Which is a different, yeah.
My grandma's like, you're dumb, like, yeah, be libertarian.
It's kind of libertarian, right?
I mean, there's a strong correlation, like we've mentioned before, with education and, you know, progressive politics, whether it's democratic or even farther to the left.
Just beyond it all, I hope.
It's pretty genius though because this whole thing is so self-affirming because if we were to...
Show Gerald real studies and show him the truth of what's actually happening.
He would literally just look us in the eye and say, say that's fake news.
Oh yeah.
Listen, educated people don't vote demographic.
The demographic does not vote democratic.
You made that up?
Because if they're educated, they know the truth and they know to vote not democratic because those are the libtards, right?
Yeah.
But if you show him facts, he just gets to say, nope.
Not my facts.
So when you can just self-affirm everything you believe, of course you're going to stay that way, you're going to think that way.
Oh man.
Where this like shithole conversation came out of, Like this was a negotiation between like a moderate Democrat and a moderate Republican and they're like coming towards some sort of common ground and like literally like what they were negotiating away in order to keep DACA was like literally what had been the
like policy for in the United States right immigration the minority lottery and like they were they were negotiating away the lottery you know or to be like this this like yeah this a merit-based system which is a significant shift in the policy debate of immigration And Dick Durbin was the only Democrat in there and he was just willing to fucking give it away.
And it's like Democrats have all the leverage.
They have all the fucking leverage because Republicans control, like I say all the fucking time, Republicans control all three branches of government.
They control both houses in Congress, they control the presidency, and they're pretty much in control of the Supreme Court and the court system at large.
They still can't get the government funded.
They still can't pass a funding bill because the right is so fractured just farther to the right.
Democrats have all the power.
They don't have to vote for this shit.
They can let the Republicans shut the government down.
They can let everything stall.
But they're still willing to give things on board.
Quote border security, they're still willing to totally rewrite our immigration system just so they can say they accomplished one thing that they've said that they've they were going to accomplish, you know, eight years ago.
Yeah, well, that's the whole thing.
And that's the whole thing is like this is like a whole failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
And DACA is just literally like in the whole like immigrants rights movement.
This is like DACA is like literally like the like the smallest aspect of it.
Yeah, and it still represents the most significant accomplishment in terms of immigration reform.
Exactly!
Ed Thomas who says to Joe the Plumber, Plumber guy, you are disgusting.
Facts.
Which I love.
He probably got poop on him.
I love that.
I hate you Plumber man.
You're gross.
At Tom's, get him, get him.
Fuck you, Mario.
Super Mario.
I love that, like, you name yourself Joe the Plumber, and yeah, people are just, fuck you, plumber guy.
Even though he's never plumbed shit in his life.
BJ Gardner says, ah man, couldn't have said it bretter myself.
That's Steve Brule.
Which is true, which is like a true obvious.
He couldn't.
He couldn't.
Obviously.
Moby Blue, which I don't know sounds like a cell phone company or something?
Or like a blood?
What's up?
A blood rapper?
Moby Bool?
Wouldn't that be a crip?
No, that would be a crip.
Moby Blue, B-L-E-U, like Blue Da Vinci.
Yeah.
You know, Blue Da Vinci.
Shout out Blue Da Vinci.
Moby Blue is like a new line of e-cigarettes put forth by that electronic artist.
Totally.
It's by Moby.
It's smokeable teas.
Yum.
Team Vaporizers?
That shit is so weird, by the way.
Yo, Moby, seriously?
Get at me.
We'll do that.
Did you see that thing about the FBI trying to tell Moby to tweet some shit?
Something about Russia?
Yeah, something about Russia because he has a bigger following than the FBI.
Oh, they wanted him to retweet to Russia?
You know what?
I didn't believe any of those things until all this Tom DeLonge shit.
Oh, man.
That's like a totally...
Tom DeLonge is a freak.
Listen to that Awful Sounds episode on Tom DeLonge.
Is he working with the government now?
He's working with ex-government people that he's pretending are still part of the government.
You guys sound like a bunch of chemtrail inhaling idiots.
Hey, you know I be puffin' on a chemtrail.
Stayin' woke, stayin' woke.
That's a hybrid of chemdark.
It's like a public service, because when you inhale the chemtrail, all that comes out is vapor, baby.
I can do this inside.
Yeah, you can do it inside and you can make it- And it's like you're cleaning the environment by doing it.
You can do a cool tornado with the vape.
So what did this sumbitch Moby Blue say?
Moby Blue says, another serious problem is these same corrupt socialist politicians are allowing millions of illegals to get driver's license.
And a driver's license is all you need to vote.
We need to stop this!
Once again, not understanding how voting works at all.
All you need is a driver's license and you go to any polling place and you say, hey, I fucking drove here.
Let me vote!
The DMV, I checked Libertarian at the DMV, so I can vote now.
No, it's crazy.
This guy probably, when he went to the DMV, or this person went to the DMV, and registered to vote there.
Thank you for saying person, because Moby Blue is definitely a fucking robot.
Moby Blue, that's a very non-binary name.
And they didn't register to vote there.
No, you're totally right.
That's exactly what happened.
It was like, no, if you get a license, you You're in.
And they were like letting these brown people work there.
It was crazy.
It was wild.
It's so ridiculous too because the whole license thing, it's like the whole reason for like undocumented people to have licenses is like so they can have like a car.
And so they can drive safely.
And contribute to society.
And buy insurance.
- They contribute to society and buy insurance. - Yeah, like when you get driving without a license, it's like your car gets taken for a month.
Like you don't wanna like, it's like to have people cooperate with the government.
Well, and it's also to get your shit paid for if they hit you.
Yeah.
Like if somebody hits you, don't you want them to have insurance?
Or do you want, I guess you probably want to be able to hold the threat of deportation over there so you can extort more money.
Okay.
Lonnie Thorpe says, Oh Lonnie.
Only a couple countries worldwide was ever mined with heavy equipment.
They're walking away from more wealth than we have.
That's pretty sad.
They could be millionaires in several different kinds of fields.
Like oil fields?
This is literally, this is like the most offensive one to me.
Because like literally the whole history of like US empire has like literally been the extraction of resources.
Strip mining.
And it's like, it's like they like, Oh my god.
If they just stay in that country and they work really hard, then they'll get to be the oil tycoon.
Then they'll get promoted to tycoon.
It's fucking ridiculous.
That's the whole thing about the shitholes.
It's like, look, Africa, like African countries, the countries of Africa are like literally the most, they have like most mineral rich and everything.
And they are the most exploited countries in the world.
Absolutely.
These people are really into like guerrilla warfare ethics.
They would be!
Yeah, they totally would be.
These guys are really going for it.
These guys are really going for it, they're really trying to get the resource to themselves.
It's exactly the fact that they're resource rich is why they have been consistently undermined historically and maintained to be like Banana Republic.
Overmined even.
Hey man, this is just a chance for them to make some money man.
Just open up a mining business.
Don't you want your distant cousins to be rich, bro?
This is literally that same fucking comment we get every episode, which the answer to any problem is to start your own business.
Start your own mining business.
Buy some heavy equipment.
Bro, you got a backyard?
Can you plant some weed in there?
I mean, yeah, you can.
But that's the reason that these countries are so destabilized is because they're like, oh, well, we have these natural resources and they have no autonomy over them.
Such an ignorant comment.
Their whole their whole viewpoint in this thing only a couple countries.
No, seriously.
It's only been I'm pretty sure that only Like I'm sure all Who do they think has been mine with heavy equipment?
It's like only America and who else I don't know But it's like they have no clue that none of these have worked.
Oh Antarctica when they drill.
Yeah, they drill for only a couple countries.
Bacteria.
Does this person realize a couple means two?
And look look they can where is it?
What is it?
They're walking away from more wealth than we have.
Dude is literally jealous of these potential refugees for their inherent wealth.
Yeah, okay, let's move on to the next one.
Wait, just one last thing.
There was one country in South Africa that has unlimited platinum mines, all this stuff, like heavy metals.
And when they had a ton of who are migrant workers, they're from all over the continent, and they literally were trying to strike for better wages in these mines, right?
Mineral rich countries.
And they were literally gunned down.
They were fucking murked.
Yeah.
Americana.
And it was this huge thing where multinational corporations were literally gunning down.
Striking workers.
Striking workers in a developing country.
And so it's not as easy as saying, like, oh, well, they should just, they should just, like, do better for themselves.
Start mining.
Start a mine.
Next meme.
This is beautiful, guys.
I love this fucking one.
It's a good one.
It's a picture of a boat.
Not just any boat.
This is a painting of the Titanic sailing into New York Harbor.
Of all the thousands of boats.
Next to the Statue of Liberty.
What timeline is this, Alex?
And the meme says, Our ancestors came to the country legally, adopted its culture, didn't spit on country's traditions, Didn't cost a dime to federal government and demanded nothing except maybe what?
Life rafts?
This is a picture of the Titanic reaching its destination.
It made it.
It made it.
This is the moment it lived in.
It didn't sink.
It's also funny it's like what I think of this like when this whole debate had like unfolded it's like everyone wants to be like well my family my Italian family or my Irish family came from so-and-so shithole country and we weren't accepted anymore And it's like, it's true.
It's totally true.
And that was bad.
Like, when the Irish were discriminated against, that was bad.
That was not a good thing.
But it's over.
We're in agreement.
Let's stop doing that to people.
It's totally true.
It's true.
But it's over.
But it's over.
But it's like, there is a commonality there.
Yeah.
But it's like, The solidarity isn't there.
Right, there's no solidarity.
It's like, oh, we can acknowledge that we were shitholes before.
Yeah, what do they want to happen?
Everyone just shut the fuck up and deal with it and get through it like they did?
Well, no, but they didn't.
That's the thing.
Slapping their own ancestors, their own family in the fucking face with their dicks, saying that, oh, my family struggled, big fucking deal.
What is the point you're trying to make?
Are you trying to say that it is a big deal, or are you trying to say that it's not a big deal?
I don't understand you bringing it up in this context if you're not acknowledging the fact that it was a struggle, that it sucked.
Or trying to help someone that's going through a struggle, or like, fuck, like, If you brought your ancestors back from the dead and you're like, hey, look at these people from El Salvador that are having a hard time, and that dead ancestor that is a zombie would be like, oh, I want to help you.
Living relative, help them with shelter.
I love that argument, it's like, my ancestors struggled, therefore what are you complain- like, people I didn't know, who aren't me, struggle.
It's offensive as fuck.
I would love to use that at like, somebody's like, you know, oh I'm fucking sick, like I have cancer, and it's like, yeah well my grandpa died.
Yeah.
He's dead now.
Yeah, shut the fuck up.
I know all about struggle and dying, my grandpa did it.
You're just dying, my grandpa died.
Yeah!
Get back to me then.
That's what I mean.
Like, what's the angle with this logic?
It's fucked up.
And that's the thing is, like, literally, like, whether it be, like, El Salvador, it's, like, literally, like, they're, they're, the United States literally destabilized these countries.
Every third world country, I swear to God, we had a hand in it.
Yes, exactly.
For the most part, especially in South America, there was a Monroe Doctrine where South America was the United States' backyard.
Like that's what they considered and so like they literally intervened in all their politics and like any time that it like any country small country like tried to exert their own independence they were smashed or like Intervened upon, right?
Intervened upon.
Colonized.
So it's like, look at Cuba, for instance.
That is so fucked.
Is that what the Monroe Doctrine basically stipulates?
Yes, that's what it is.
Like, here's our playground, and here's our bananas, and here's our coffee.
It's in our national interest to exert our power over... Yeah, it's a very manifest destiny.
And so look at Cuba, or any of these other places that try to not be banana republics, and be like, we're gonna do our own thing.
And they're literally smashed.
Yeah, let's get back to the good immigrants though.
But what I'm saying is though, is that in their efforts to destabilize these independent movements, the United States created a lot of shitholes.
Yeah, now we're doing it in the Middle East.
I don't like black people because that one kid dunked on you in third grade and it hurt.
This is exactly the same thing.
This is the repercussion of that.
So yeah, yeah.
But yeah, back to our Irish ancestors who traveled across the Atlantic in the Titanic.
Doing- doing- They made it.
Doing jigs, in- in steerage, and drawing pretty naked rich ladies.
And fucking hating Billy Zane.
He's way more- way more alpha male than- than Leo any day.
Didn't cost a dime to the federal government.
Like, so many- so many handouts were given to your grandparents, given to the- the greatest generation.
Like, this is- it's so fucking ignorant.
Yeah.
Of course it cost the fucking government money.
Give me a break.
Yeah, and that's back when we invested in, you know, white people.
That's when we invested in, quote, our people.
Specifically our people.
And that's why we were able to create an economic boom that... We were able to create the middle class, okay?
Because we actually gave a shit and wanted to.
Okay.
Jason F. Rando says, uh...
And was forced to change our last name.
Cool, dude.
Jason F. Rando.
What was this dude's name before Rando?
I can understand why this dude was upset that he had to change his name to Rando.
Yeah, it's like the white genocide.
Another band name, by the way.
White Genocide is like my favorite thing, and I love that I participated in my real life.
Dude, can we all have a band called White Genocide?
Yeah, White Genocide's like the best band name ever.
First band practice after recording.
You can ask my girlfriend, I've been saying that for like, since Trump got elected.
My little mix baby's gonna be, has to be in it though.
Oh my god, shut the fuck up.
John Condon.
Condom?
Who changed his last name from Condom, was forced to at Ellis Island.
And they had no slaves.
Is this a complaint?
Is he like complaining about how bad his ancestors had it?
That when they came from Irish, when they came from Ireland, they didn't even have, they didn't even get slaves!
They didn't even have people to do the work for them.
And it makes it seem like as if immigrants are showing up and giving a slave.
No, not these immigrants.
Nowadays, yes.
And the slave is the American taxpayer.
Well if you're really clued in in like the upper echelon of society, you can just like tap right in and get one of those like slaves.
In modern day society.
And then Joe Gailey, back to my previous point, says, they got free land too!
Oh god.
Exactly!
Like yeah, they did.
Like what is Joe Gailey, like what's the angle here with Joe Gailey because he's right, But it sounds like he's upset.
Well, I mean, he shouldn't be upset.
The Native Americans should probably be upset about it.
He's part of this page that posted this ridiculous meme.
I'm assuming he's mad about something.
What about them getting free land?
I'm so mad we got free land!
We didn't get that many handouts, just some free land.
They got free land too.
Glenn Wasson said, and they worked so the next generation would have a better life.
Again, Schrodinger's immigrant.
Nowadays immigrants don't work but they steal our jobs.
Like, are you upset with modern immigrants working here?
It doesn't sound like you would be if you're touting the fact that your ancestors worked hard so the next generation would have a better life.
I mean, that's literally the problem.
There is a white supremacist ideology at play.
It's not about like hard working.
It's not about your work or like what you've done.
It's like literally about your skin color.
I know it's true though.
I've seen some of these immigrants like from Haiti and and like Syria and when they come over here they're not wearing work boots.
They're not wearing any shoes at all.
It's kind of crazy.
Clearly not prepared to join the workforce.
Yeah, but they have that mentality.
It's that whole thing where they're like, no, my family put the work in.
They've been here for so long and they've been lucky enough to have these things and they put the work in.
So, because you're just showing up here now, you don't get to do that.
Well, yeah, it's like- Your family should have been putting in work back there in Uganda and, you know, opening a little mom pop shop there.
You get to choose like you get to choose which immigrant you hate in these comment section you can either hate the immigrant that doesn't exist who's on welfare or the immigrant who does exist and is working probably with a you know if we're talking undocumented immigrant they're working with a fake not a fake social security number but but a falsified social security number and paying taxes yeah They're literally paying taxes that they're never going to receive any benefits from.
They're never, they're not going to get social security.
They don't get a tax return.
And not only that, but it's like with the whole Trump thing, it's like, this is like literally ideology at play.
It's like, it's propagandistic.
It's in the sense is that Trump is targeting, like in the news reports that I've read, is that he's targeting like 7-Elevens.
Oh, no, they did raids on 7-Eleven.
And it's like, wait, wait, where is, if you really wanted to target like the most concentrated industry of probably undocumented immigrants, it'd probably be agriculture.
That is literally a right-wing industry.
And they know it.
It's just a power play.
It was super concentrated to one area.
It was one state, or maybe New York and New Jersey.
And it was just a power play.
Like you said, they could have gone after and gotten real mass chunks of people.
Like, oh, I'm just going to up and leave my whole family, my whole generations of people.
It's ridiculous.
People just up and leave because they want to suck on the teat of American benefits.
Literally, like I said before, the only immigrant they know is their fucking dead grandfather who they never actually met.
That's the only immigrant they know at all.
Okay, next post.
This is a viral post, thousands of likes, 10,000 shares, and it goes a little something like this.
It's a damn shame a DACA kid, and kid is also all caps, meaning it's some sort of acronym, can go to college on my dime, but my kid gets denied?
So sick of this crap!
Hold on.
10k shares.
I thought this was one of those fancy word arts.
I like to provide some contextual information.
I thought this was one of those fancy word arts.
I thought they were clouding themselves.
I thought they were saying, like, yo, I got 10K shares on this.
No, they definitely did have 10,000 shares.
I like to provide some contextual information.
That's insane.
Yeah.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A DACA kid can go to college on his dime.
Once again, all undocumented immigrants, they get a free house in the suburbs, two stories, if a three-story house isn't available.
They get free car insurance, they get free welfare, and they get a slave.
It sounds pretty sweet.
It's pretty tight.
And like literally, why the fuck not?
And their kids get free college.
Yeah, so this dude literally thinks that DACA kids get free college, and this is like...
It's like you have to invent shit to justify your hatred.
Like, I think that that's what a lot of this is.
A lot of it is, well, I hate these immigrants for some reason.
I need something I can verbalize, something I can, like, rationalize.
Oh, well, they must get free welfare.
They must get free college.
They must get free healthcare.
That'll justify my hatred of them.
Especially because they're mad because they're just really mad because their kid didn't go to college.
Their kid got fucking denied.
And it's like, it's like, why shouldn't they though?
Why as a society, like, should we not, like, why shouldn't every person have access to education?
Like, why shouldn't every person have access to healthcare?
Because that leads to progressive voters.
I'm saying it's just it's insane that they I think they literally their kid didn't go to college and because they didn't go to college they assume they just didn't you know they got denied and they saw a brown kid on a pamphlet for some some school.
Dude I like to think that they got like his application letter back in the mail it just had a big fucking red stamp on it that said denied.
Denied for DACA kid?
Dude I would love that.
I got a comment.
I didn't place a docker kid.
John Grohman.
Grohman.
G-R-O-H-man said we have eight years of student loans to repay.
They're not even citizens and they go for free WTF.
Yeah, you should be mad about those eight years of student loans you have to repay.
And then you take a wild left turn towards racism.
You know what I mean?
Like, this could be so easily solved.
Your problems could be so easily solved if you just focused on the real issue.
Which is your student loans!
That's an issue.
And what I'm assuming here is they're saying they have eight years of student loans.
I'm assuming they paid for college for two kids.
And it's not even them, it's their kids.
And they didn't even fucking... They're in a position where they can send their kids to school through just loans, and that's like, and that's a lot of, you know, chunk of change to take out, but that's still a pretty okay place to be.
Yeah.
In life, like, it sucks, we need to work on that, we need to fix that, but also you're still luckier than a lot of people in America who were born here even, let alone the people who can't qualify for anything because they are, you know, illegal immigrants.
Judy Anderson says, Make them pay all the money back or be deported.
Their choice.
Our kids go into debt for education.
They can go into debt to stay here.
Literally, they do.
They literally pay money to be part of the DACA program.
You have to pay money to get your work permit.
You have to pay money to be part of the DACA program.
And if you're going to college, you have to fucking pay for it.
Literally going to debt.
And so, hey!
They are going into debt, so Judy Anderson's totally okay with them staying here.
Yeah, exactly.
There were so many comments that were like, if these DACA kids wanted to stay in America so bad, why didn't they get their citizenship?
They had all this time, and it's like, Oh my god, like, you are truly, truly confused.
Like, you are like, the propaganda has worked so well.
Like, literally this whole conversation is about whether or not they will be able to start the process to become citizens.
That's literally what the argument is.
They want the same thing you think you want.
Well, I think that we literally want you like, are you a good citizen?
Do you contribute to society?
Yeah, they literally the DACA kids like the in lieu of comprehensive immigration reform, right?
Probably college.
We have DACA.
Yeah, right.
So it's like it targets the most talent like, like in W.E.B.
Du Bois sense like the most talented in 10th.
Like the smartest, the best that we have.
Kids who are, not that this matters, but kids who are already assimilated.
Kids who were raised, you know, the model immigrant in these people's minds.
It's like in lieu of comprehensive immigration reform.
We need to have a path to citizenship for all of people.
And it's like, that doesn't exist because the framework has shifted so to the right with Trump.
But it seems like some of these people would be okay with that if they just fucking settled down for a second and thought about it.
Alright, let's move on to a different change of topic.
This attitude, this energy.
We need to end on a light note.
This has been a very serious episode and I want to shift to a different topic, a much happier topic, which is Jose Wales Jackson's post in the Deplorables group.
Am I the only one that's been in a real good mood since Trump was elected?
Question mark?
And this is, like, the kind of energy, like, this is the good mood I want to leave the listener with.
This post had, like, you know, 4,000 likes.
And let's just read about these good moods that people are in ever since Trump took over.
Kathy A. Patton thralls.
The Thralls of Cathy A. Patton.
What was A-Tour?
That's the one that got shortened.
No!
I have been dancing a jig ever since.
I honestly have been doing so much better since our wonderful president was elected.
I could barely afford groceries before.
Since the election, I have bought an acre of property with a barn, and I don't panic when I run out of food.
I can afford gas in my car.
My 401k has done fantastic.
I am looking forward to the tax cuts in February.
I am retiring soon and I feel very hopeful about our future.
This is a computer algorithm typing up a comment.
I have a farm.
I have 401k.
I guarantee this person doesn't have workers.
This is a lie.
This is bullshit.
I'm going to take a wild guess.
Something else coincidentally happened between now and the time that Trump got elected that might, if this is true.
Something else in her life might have happened besides him getting elected.
Because if you went from you couldn't afford groceries to you're gonna retire soon?
That's a crazy fucking jump.
I'm gonna retire.
This whole thing is so wild.
I want this life!
It was probably the release of Damn by Kendrick Lamar.
That coincided with... It boosted the economy by 10%.
She fucking went from not being able to buy groceries, but then when Trump got elected she suddenly bought an acre of land.
I'm so happy for her.
It's a real like, you know... An acre and a barn and a 401k?
I got acre.
How does this happen though?
She left out one crucial detail.
What's the mechanism... Where's my acre and a barn?
Huh?
Where's my... You have like four acres and a mule.
It's like reimagined.
What's the mechanism that gave you land when Trump got elected?
Like white privilege?
White reparations.
Yeah.
Oh, they got it.
They got the monies.
White people are like, out there now.
White people are just like, emboldened.
They're letting it all hang out, baby.
They be handling it.
Can you imagine listening to DNA with a completely different energy?
Like, just taking it, but yeah, I do have that DNA.
Like, I have the pure stuff.
I have the stuff where...
Oh, man.
Jamie...
Jamie Begley says, Even bad days aren't that bad with President Trump.
Oh.
Just he's able to brighten up even the cloudiest of days with his orange hue.
Get in a fight with your partner, you know.
Got a flat tire.
Everything sucks, get fired.
But you know what?
I got Trump in the office so I'm feeling great.
The funny thing is, it's literally about white supremacy.
It's really weird.
He's emboldening white Well, and it's all symbolic.
I see a world, though, where maybe she just didn't have the confidence to go apply for, like, the loan that she wanted before or the raise that she deserved the whole time.
But once Trump was in there, she got a little fire in her pants.
She was like, you know what?
I'm going for it.
They ended that redlining practice against Kathy A. Patton-Thralls.
She's not talking about it, she's like, her dad died.
She got inheritance.
Yeah, and she didn't have to pay the death tax now.
What did I miss?
Just one comment.
Just the thing.
Missed Kathy A. Patton-Thrall.
Oh no, you missed Jamie Begley.
Oh, Begs.
Jamie Begley Jr.
Oh, Begs.
Isaac Acosta says, I haven't been this happy since Reagan.
Remember, well?
That was a riot.
It's true, he did say well a lot.
Is that a thing?
Yeah, it's a thing.
It's this hilarious thing where Reagan would go, well?
Like, what are you going to do to help out poverty-stricken immigrants coming to this country, he's like, well...
Is that what it was?
Yeah, it was like, what are we going to do about this Nicaraguan thing?
Well...
Can you plug in the audio of him saying how, like...
My heart and mind doesn't want to believe it, but this is what it really did.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and I'm also going to plug in the rap in Ronnie Reagan.
Oh, yeah.
A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages.
My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the - Listen the evidence, tell me it is not. - You know something?
He did say well a lot. - I just love, I haven't been this happy since Reagan, Remember well?
Like that's what he loved about Reagan was just that biting wit and humor where he said well or he said there you go again.
Remember that line everybody?
Remember how fucking hilarious he was?
That's what you get when you have like a charismatic celebrity become president.
You get a lot of zingers like that.
Literally that.
It's like politics as like a fucking sitcom, not as like actually policy or anything else.
Yeah, like a big dumb oaf with a house that he couldn't possibly afford and a hot wife that he shouldn't have.
We're lucky to have it.
And a good catchphrase.
Okay, we're running super long.
Yeah, let's go.
Okay, so Peter Fogues.
Says, I drive for Uber and speak with people from America.
It's good to know.
California and around the world.
Donald Trump is highly liked and respected around the world.
Real quick, my dad is an Uber driver and says the same fucking thing.
What is he, how is he prompted, like is he giving a question, is he giving that Donald Trump fake news questionnaire to every passenger he takes on?
I guess, he's just like, He's like, man, like, he's like people from, you know, I talk to Chinese people and they're like, uh, they're like, yeah, uh, uh, Donald Trump, uh, he's, he's real, real crazy.
They love the guy who made anti-Chinese policy one of his main, uh, one of his main pillars of his presidency.
I don't know.
My dad just definitely has said that like paraphrase shit to me like 10 plus times in my life.
Hey, if you're an Uber driver, though, like, you're like an independent contractor, which means, like, you have no biases, you have no special interests, like, you're independent, and therefore you have the purest opinions.
Because everybody wants to have a conversation with their Uber driver about Donald fucking Trump.
They literally just said yes to whatever you fucking asked them without looking up from their phone.
You have two scenarios.
Someone gets in your car and you go, let me some Donnie Trump, right?
Either the person's gonna go, fuck yeah, or they're gonna go, cool man, just take me to where I need to be, please.
Just shut the fuck up, dude.
Pass the aux cord.
I'll like whoever you want me to like.
Just pass the aux, exactly.
As long as you let me put on the music I like.
Okay, and then I would just want to say, Peter Fogues, I checked out this guy's credentials just to make sure he really worked for the prestigious company, Uber.
But no, it turns out he's CFO, parentheses, Chief Fun Officer at Global Internet Entrepreneur.
Nice.
This guy's just playing around, clicking around on Facebook like, I'm gonna be this, and I'm gonna type this up, and that's what I'll be.
Well, it's global right there in the name.
I don't know if we can trust this guy.
Yeah, he's a globalist.
He's a globalist.
Globalist, k-word, just handling stuff.
But, he probably thought CFO meant Chief Fun Officer.
I mean, I gotta say he probably did.
Okay, last comment.
Dude, what's up with this?
Patricia Lane says... And remember, this is like people who are super stoked that Donald Trump is their president.
It's like what really, like, helps them get through their day.
Patricia Lane says... There we go.
Didn't it make you feel like you could, quote, breathe again?
Ever since the day we elected President Trump?
Thank you for all your faith-filled support to stand up for our country and vote with all diligence!
I have to admit it, with my bad knees, it had been quite some time since I had been on hands and knees praying half the night.
Which direction were you doing that?
Yeah, what's going on there?
Which way were you pointed when you're on hands and knees praying all night?
I'm starting to wonder about this comment.
Praying specifically for God to quote, supernaturally intervene with any and all fraud voting.
I know he hates cheating and breaking laws.
He certainly did it.
It's true.
So confusing.
God does hate it when you break natural laws like voting.
This lady's brain's so fucked.
And it shocked the daylights out of the enemy!
What a sight to behold!
Praise God!
President Trump was especially chosen, prepared, provided, and appointed by Jehovah Father!
Oh.
Was he prepared like he's another level there like he had is like he was anointed with oils and shit He was he was baked up in a little mold in God's oven You know where he where he baked the black people a little too long Have you guys ever heard that before?
Oh yeah, yeah.
No.
Okay, I'm glad that I didn't just say that.
Okay, yeah, I was wondering if you just created it.
No, it's some sh- like, what?
It's just some bullshit that I heard in the schoolyard.
Okay, alright.
I believe you.
He has what all is needed for this different time in history.
Faith without works is dead.
Could not have happened without God, our President Trump, and every last one of you who stepped out in faith.
This is making me so sick.
I know there were tons of prayers going up to the heavens that wonderful night.
Parentheses.
And that pleases Jehovah Father.
Sure does.
Faith without works is dead.
You're all, you are all my heroes.
I am so- No.
Hair Ross.
I am so proud of our intelligent, patriotic Americans with good values.
I thank God for all of you too!
Never sell yourself short.
Never!
Never give up!
Never surrender!
Never give in!
This is the hardcore song.
This is a hardcore song.
Yeah, this is Galaxy Quest slash Haymaker.
Or Throwdown, rather.
I can imagine that, sure.
This is actually Haymaker now.
That dude's like, alright.
The singer of Haymaker's like, seriously fucked up.
Really, dude?
Okay, uh, I am so b-b-b-b- With God, with faith, all things are possible.
Continue marching forward.
May God bless America.
God is with us.
Never cease praying.
Prayers never prayed cannot be answered.
Thank you!
And God, I thank Patricia for leaving us on that just, you know, beautiful note.
I hope her knees are getting better so that she can continue to pray all night on them.
I hope they're getting all scabbed up so we can have rice and scab knees.
I like to think that she faces exactly the opposite direction of Mecca.
Yeah, she knows where she's going.
I face West every time.
She also has to like be upside down too to be completely opposite.
It must be hard though to want to pray towards Trump but also away from the East.
Right, maybe she's in Maine so she's gonna pray like Southwest.
All right.
That's been the show.
Thank you, Eric, for doing it.
Very fun.
Occasionally serious episode.
No, I mean, I think this is a serious episode and it kind of has to be.
And I think that we got to supplement all the nonsense with some serious shit.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Eric.
So as always, if you enjoyed the show, tell a friend.
Pray for us, guys.
Please.
Pray for us every night, hands and knees.
Also, if you could dab and then say had to do it to them, to every person in your vicinity, that'd be greatly appreciated.
Rate and review in iTunes.
You can do it inside the podcast app.
Look at us in your library, tap the cover art, scroll down, and yeah, click five stars, we'd really appreciate it.
Just do it.
Even though we're bad at it, just click it.
Check out That Awful Sound.
The episode last week was on, or the episode this week, rather, is on... Space Cakes?
No, it's on Are You That Somebody by Aaliyah.
That was a very fun one.
Oh, whoa.
It's a good one.
I'm excited to listen to that one.
It's a good song that we covered on That Awful Sound.
I'm excited to listen to that one.
Oh, this is next week you were talking about, huh?
Yeah, I'm thinking one step ahead.
I'm such a goddamn fanboy.
I'm so stoked to know this beforehand.
And yeah, that's it.
So, thanks guys.
Bye.
Had to do it to you.
Talking about the porn star?
Yeah.
The porn star on Storm?
Yeah.
Storm from X-Men?
Stormfront?
Stormfront Daniels?
Stormy something?
Stormy Daniels?
Stormy Daniels?
He thought her name was Stormfront Daniels and that's why he got her through.
