BBN, Dec 18, 2025 - MIT Nuclear Fusion Scientist Murdered as Nations Race for Power Dominance in Age
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Remember how I've been talking about the importance of the power grid for the data centers in the race to AI and why the U.S. lack of power is really the single most important issue holding us back from competing with China.
Yeah, well, today, a top MIT fusion, nuclear fusion scientist was just murdered in the United States.
And we're going to lead off with that very important and tragic story.
So this is Brighttown Broadcast News.
It is Thursday, December 18th, 2025.
And I'm Mike Adams.
Thank you for joining me today.
And I'm sorry to lead off with this tragic news, but it is really quite important to understand.
So this nuclear physicist named, he's from Portugal.
So I'm guessing on the name Nuno Loreiro.
I don't know how you pronounce it.
I'm sorry.
He lived in Brooklyn.
He was a world-renowned plasma physicist and a fusion scientist.
He was a professor of nuclear science and engineering and a professor of physics at MIT.
He was the director of the MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center.
There were gunshots at an apartment.
Let's see, 8.30 p.m.
A victim was located who had been shot multiple times, according to the police.
And this man, the scientist, was the victim.
So, of course, we don't know why he was shot.
I mean, we can't say for sure.
But I want to bring up this very important point that Israel routinely assassinates scientists in Iran.
So this is a method of warfare that is known in our modern world, is to kill off the leading-edge scientists who are about to make breakthroughs.
In the case of Iran, that would be breakthroughs in the area of nuclear weapons or, let's say, the processing of nuclear fuel, you know, enrichment processes.
So Israel routinely assassinates scientists in Iran and other places.
And thus, this idea that this 47-year-old director of the MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center, the idea that he was killed because of potential breakthroughs in fusion energy, that is not a far-fetched idea.
Now, granted, there could have been some other cause.
We don't have any proof that he was killed because of his knowledge, but it's very unusual for an MIT scientist to be involved in any kind of nefarious, like, you know, drug deals gone bad or something crazy like that.
These are not the kind of people that have the kind of friends that shoot you typically.
These are brilliant, nerdy, geeky scientist people.
And their peer groups are usually the most harmless people in society.
And clearly, he was working on the most important, or arguably one of the most important technologies for the future of humanity, which is fusion energy.
Now, think about this and what I said over the last few days here on this podcast, that specifically yesterday, right now we have data centers in the U.S. that do not have power.
And we've been over this several times.
Nuclear power, which is really fission power, you know sort of traditional nuclear power plants that's all fission based and those take 15 to 20 years to bring them online and that's too long.
And you know we talked about gas turbines yesterday and how gas turbines have anywhere from a three to now an eight year wait time to get gas turbines that generate electricity.
So that's also not viable in in the short term.
So we talked about solar, which is viable in the short term, and how solar needs a lot of silver.
And this is one of the reasons that silver demand, actual physical demand is going through the roof.
And also, by the way, silver is over $66 still today.
And this is part of the reason why we talked about that.
But nuclear fusion is it could be the most important technology breakthrough for humanity, perhaps after AI.
But nuclear fusion would unleash energy abundance to the point where electricity would be practically free, or it could be.
I mean, I'm sure they'll use it to control everybody and monitor everybody, but it would be so cheap to produce that nuclear fusion could power the AI data centers here on Earth very inexpensively and could allow the United States to then potentially win the AI race to superintelligence.
So is it possible that China or who knows or Iran or North Korea or Russia or some other country that wants to hobble the United States and make sure that we are held back?
Is it possible that they could target and start assassinating top-level fusion scientists in the United States?
And the answer is clearly yes, that's a possibility because of the critical importance of this technology and the fact that we lack energy.
Now, think about it.
China has plenty of electricity.
They've built massive infrastructure, right?
But they're lacking some of the microchips because of the export controls and also the U.S. pushing European companies to halt exports of microchip fabrication lithography equipment, specifically UV lithography, to China.
So China has had to work on developing its own microchip fabrication and lithography technology, which it is well on the way to achieving.
It's not yet on par with the rest of the world, but it's going to be very soon, I would guess within two years, because they're putting a lot of resources into that.
So China's got the energy.
Soon, China will have all the microchips that it needs.
The U.S. lacks the energy, and there's no clear path to massive energy installation unless we have a fusion breakthrough.
Now, in reality, a fusion breakthrough could easily be still decades away.
In fact, it may never work on Earth.
It's not even clear that it will work.
But if it's going to work, it's going to be people like this man, Nuno, again, I can't get his last name right.
People like him who will make it happen.
Now, keep in mind that solar power also harnesses fusion energy from the sun, right?
So the sun is a giant fusion, mostly a hydrogen fusion machine just sitting in the center of our solar system and emitting lots of energy that our solar panels pick up.
So in a sense, all solar energy is also fusion energy.
It's just that the fusion production is happening in the sun, mostly deep within the sun, Because of the nature of fusion and physics, etc.
Whereas if we could build fusion generators on Earth, then we wouldn't need solar.
Okay, so this would completely obliterate the need for solar energy.
So think about the fact that I recently said that silver prices are being pushed much higher because of the demand for silver to use in solar panels and EVs and battery storage technology, correct?
Well, I've also said certain things could crash the price of silver.
One of those things would be the announcement of fusion energy.
That is, if it were really practical and readily available, which it probably would not be, because even if you had a breakthrough, it'd still probably take 25 years to build the thing because it's complicated.
So, but ultimately, yeah, fusion energy could make solar panels obsolete.
Probably not anytime soon, but it could happen eventually.
And fusion energy would be a great thing for humanity because it's, of course, clean, converts mass into energy with very high efficiency.
And I don't recall what the exact inputs are.
Is it deuterium?
Is it heavy water?
But whatever it is, there's plenty of it in the ocean.
You know, there's no lack of mass on Earth to convert it to energy.
If you're using, you know, E equals M C squared, where C squared is the square of the speed of light, that's a pretty big-ass number.
So you don't need much mass to power all the power needs of the country.
You see what I mean?
And would China resort to assassinating U.S. scientists?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I know Israel would.
What about the oil industry?
Are there players in the oil industry?
What about the natural gas industry that's also very wealthy?
Would they assassinate MIT scientists?
I don't know.
But don't put it past anybody because one of the things we've learned together over the last five years is that there's a lot of humans that are far more evil than we may have previously imagined.
And they seem to be in positions of power.
I mean, gosh, we've witnessed that in the Middle East and we've witnessed it.
I mean, look at the Trump administration bombing unarmed boat operators off the coast of Venezuela.
He says they're drug smugglers.
Yeah, well, so are the banksters, man.
Who do you think is laundering all the drug money?
It's the big banks.
I don't see Trump bombing the banks.
I'm not saying he should, but bombing speed boats of unarmed people that he says are drug smugglers.
Well, I don't do they is there a due process requirement?
You know, can you just seize oil tankers and steal all their oil?
Because that's what Trump is doing, which makes the Trump administration actually rooted in piracy.
Piracy on the high seas.
You know, not the rule of law.
It's like, we're going to steal your boat and steal your oil and bomb your speed boats and go pound sand.
There's nothing you can do about it.
That doesn't sound like the rule of law to me.
That sounds like a rogue nation doing whatever it wants and using violence and theft to achieve its means.
But whatever.
That's a separate conversation.
Bottom line is, don't be surprised if more high-level people in the energy sector start to get killed through various means.
It's very sad, very tragic.
Now, we need smart people in America.
And my goodness, I was just reminded of how desperately we need smart people because there has been, let's see, it's been A new survey of adult literacy in the United States, and I confirmed this.
It's from National University.
So you may even find this hard to believe, but it turns out that 45 million U.S. adults are functionally illiterate.
45 million U.S. adults.
Oh my God.
And that means that they cannot even read at a fifth grade level.
According to this survey, also 21% of U.S. adults are functionally illiterate.
They cannot read at all.
More than half of U.S. adults, okay?
Again, this is just shocking.
More than half of U.S. adults have a literacy level below the sixth grade.
My God, no wonder politics is so stupid.
The politicians have to dumb down everything they say to something like a sub-fifth grade level.
It kind of explains every speech that we hear from every president.
I mean, Trump, Biden, all of them is like, who are you talking to?
Oh, yeah, they're talking to the fifth grade reading level Americans who are adults who apparently can't understand anything.
It's unbelievable.
So here it is restated.
130 million U.S. adults read below a sixth grade level.
That is just absolutely shocking.
And here I have, I've built a book generator.
No one can read.
It's like, oh my goodness, should have built like a video generator or something because nobody can read.
Well, not nobody, but some shockingly large percentage of Americans can't read.
So it's going to take me a while to even absorb some of these numbers here.
But again, over half of American adults cannot read at a sixth grade level.
Okay, let's just stick with that one.
So that means they can't read.
I mean, they can't read scientific studies for sure.
They can't read a book.
They can't read maybe ingredients on a product.
They don't know how to follow instructions.
They can't read instructions.
They can't read tutorials.
My goodness.
And how did we get here?
How did we get here?
Well, I mean, obviously we have a failed education system.
We have a, you know, let's just be honest, it's a libtard indoctrination school system that produces illiterate students, illiterate in math and illiterate in reading and comprehension and ideas and original thinking and so on.
And I put out a tweet even before I learned all this or a post on social.
I said that the same people who underestimate machine intelligence also tend to vastly overestimate human intelligence.
And what I mean by that is I've seen a lot of people comment as like, oh, machines aren't that smart.
Not as smart as us, humans, you know.
And then a lot of those people saying that are kind of stupid, actually.
And you see, it's there's not a politically correct way to say this, but people who are stupid are too stupid to realize they're stupid.
So you have a country of people who are, I mean, half of the adults are illiterate, can't read, can't write, can't think, can't do math.
I mean, we're talking like half the adults in America now at this point.
This is shocking.
But they think they're brilliant.
They think they know things.
They think they should be able to vote.
They think they should, you know, run a city as a mayor.
They think they should run for Congress.
And some of them, like in Houston, Texas, have become members of the House with unbelievably low IQs.
And one of them got on the U.S. Supreme Court also, huh?
Under Joe Biden, who is also cognitively impaired.
So what we have here is we have the great dumbing down of America.
And so I actually published a book on that very topic at brightlearn.ai, which is sort of ironically named in the context of this conversation.
But it's called The Great Dumbing Down of America, and it's an entire book based on this survey and all the findings there, plus some of my comments and prompts and so on.
And you might want to take a look at that book.
It's called The Silent Crisis of Shockingly Widespread Illiteracy.
And I should have put another subhead on it that said, don't worry, the people this book is talking about can't read it.
But that would be cruel.
Right?
That would seem very uncaring, so I didn't do that.
And I'm not trying to mock people who can't read.
I'm just, I'm wondering how did society break so profoundly that we arrived at this place where half of our adults can't read.
So how is it that they can participate in so-called democracy then?
How is it that you are allowed to vote if you can't even read?
How do you read the ballot?
How do you read about the issues?
How do you think?
How do you debate?
You know, there was a time when we had IQ tests to vote, but of course that was abused to enshrine power in the hands of the few.
But I kind of think we need an IQ test.
I think we need at least a basic reading test to be able to vote, to be a member of the House, to be a member of the Senate, to be the president.
You know, if you can't read and write, I don't think you're qualified to represent anyone in this country.
That's my opinion.
What do you think?
Shouldn't we require literacy?
It just seems insane that I even have to mention this, but here we are.
Now, speaking of literacy, let me give you an update on brightlearn.ai because we have some really exciting, cool developments.
Namely, one of our users, a younger man that I've interviewed before, Corey Endroulot, who runs his own sort of pro-freedom philosophy podcast and books and events and things like that.
And he's doing such a great job there.
He used our engine at brightlearn.ai to create a book called Mark Passio's Natural Law Manifestation e-book.
And he put in a very elaborate prompt, all kinds of notes and everything for this.
And so it created a really great book.
And then he took that book and he is now selling it on Amazon.
It's available on Amazon Kindle.
So not only has Corey now posted this book for sale and he's generating revenue, he's earning money from the sale of his book that he generated with our engine at brightlearn.ai.
And I encourage that.
And that's why we allow all the books at BrightLearn to be sold commercially under the Creative Commons Attribution License, which just says you can sell these books, but you need to give credit to BrightLearn.ai.
And that's pretty much it.
I mean, you can read the details on the site.
But it's a very permissive license to use the content for almost any lawful purpose, including commercial use.
And what I pointed out the other day is that this is revolutionary.
Even perhaps for many of you listening, you might be still working in a job somewhere that you don't like.
Or you might be in a career where you think that you're going to be replaced by AI.
And that could very well be true.
I doubt very many listeners are here if you're working, let's say, customer service jobs or entry-level jobs.
Those will be the easiest to replace.
But even people like that, as AI takes their jobs, new AI gives them new opportunities, like what we're talking about here.
So yeah, maybe AI takes your crappy job, your horrible cubicle job of customer service, answering calls from angry people or whoever, frustrated people.
That's a pretty horrible job.
Well, what if instead, what if you created a series of books about the things you love to do, things that you're passionate about, your interests or your expertise, things that you have knowledge and experience about.
And you created a series of books.
And then you posted those on Amazon or some other retailer.
And you sold them and you earned an ongoing revenue stream.
And then, I don't know, maybe you launch, maybe you use social media accounts or you post videos on Brighteon.com or YouTube or wherever and you start doing commentary and then you plug your books.
And so you're selling your books through your content.
But the books are created for you at no real cost, just your time and not even very much time.
You know, maybe a couple of hours of research to pull together all your notes and everything to create the book.
But you don't have to do the art.
You don't have to do the editing.
You don't have to do the writing, the fact-checking, the researching, none of that.
So all that's done for you with our engine.
And then you get to sell those books and create income streams.
You see what I mean?
So AI abundance.
I talk about abundance quite a lot.
And sometimes people are thinking, well, that's just some pie in the sky concept.
You know, how does AI help me?
You might ask, well, here's a great example.
Use our book engine at brightlearn.ai, create the books you want, sell them on Amazon or elsewhere.
In fact, I encourage you to sell them on Amazon.
Do this as a challenge.
Oh, actually, you know what?
Corey is going to write a how-to guide for us here.
He promised that he would do that.
And I'll share it with you.
It's going to be how to use BrightLearn.ai and then sell your book on Amazon.
So he's going to walk through the steps.
I don't even know how to sell a book on Amazon because I have not ever done that.
I'm too busy building the engines that create the books.
But I encourage everybody, sell the books on Amazon.
That's so cool.
Also, another thing I want to mention, even though BrightLearn.ai is free to use, the free tier gives you a three-chapter book, which is a shorter book.
We have had to create a limit, a daily limit of three books per day per email address.
Because, well, a few users were just hammering like 100 books into the system and it was kind of jamming up all the resources for everybody else.
And so I had to put a limit in at three books per user per day or per email per day.
So if you have five email addresses, then you could technically, you could submit 15 books a day, which is a lot.
And it's all free.
But if you are a token holder, then you have no limits.
You can use any number of tokens anytime and you can create the longer books with the better cover art, etc.
And you get lots of other benefits at the same time.
And if you want to get tokens, of course, you can swap your loyalty points at healthrangerstore.com.
You can swap those points for tokens, book tokens, and then those tokens will allow you to generate books at brightlearn.ai.
So that's how it works.
And if you're going to sell books commercially, I would recommend you do the longer books, which will require a token.
And it will also give you better book art.
That would just be way more impressive.
So get yourself a token.
Oh, hey, by the way, if you are an account user at BrightTown.com, that is, if you have a channel on the video site, check your email because we emailed you a token like earlier in the day.
We emailed you a token that's good for one book.
So we are actually distributing tokens also.
And we're going to be doing that for other users of our platforms and subscribers to our naturalnews.com email newsletter, etc.
We're going to be sending out a token for everybody there as soon as the engine gets all caught up with all the tokens that we've already put out there.
I mean, actually, the engine is, it's keeping up quite nicely right now.
So if you've got tokens, use them.
If you want to sell books, sell them and create income for yourself.
And as I've mentioned before, I'm going to have some kind of a bulk download feature available for you before Christmas of some kind.
I'm trying to put together the personalized library assimilation function for you where you can type in your interests and then it will pull together the books for you that would be ideal for you.
And then it'll just zip it all up and you can download that zip file.
Because right now it's becoming kind of onerous to look through all the books because we've published now 4,500 books.
Yeah, I know.
Like, wasn't that 100 books just two weeks ago?
Yeah, now it's 4,500 books.
So it's a lot of books.
And we're going to give you the tool that will help you sort through the, or it'll pull together the books for you automatically.
And then you can download it and you can have your own book library stored locally, which will give you plenty of things to read for Christmas.
How about that?
Or, again, the ultimate gift for someone you love, give them a gift of here's a thumb drive with all the books that talk about, I don't know, horses or healthy pets or whatever, whatever you're into, you know, quantum computing or, you know, off-grid living, right?
What a great Christmas gift, actually.
I would love it if somebody would give me a Christmas gift like that.
Well, I guess I could just, I have all the books.
But I mean, it's the thought that counts, right?
Here's a bunch of books just for you because we know what you're into.
Here's a bunch of books about making smoothies.
Here's a bunch of books about home gardening.
That would be handy.
Or here's a bunch of books about making bread.
Like loaves of bread, you know?
So anyway, good stuff.
I want to play a few minutes for you of this video from Corey Andrew Lat, who, again, he reaches a younger audience.
So it's a little bit different presentation style.
But I want to play just a little snippet from this video of him telling his audience about brightlearn.ai so you can kind of get a sense of this.
It's kind of cool to watch this.
So check out this video.
But what I mainly want to show you in this video is Brighteon Books, otherwise known as books.brightlearn.ai or simply brightlearnai.
And you can see there are actually, as of recording this video right now, there are about 800 authors, 2,000 books, and 67,000 downloads.
And when you watch this, it could be probably plenty more than that.
And people are generating their own books from a prompt.
And I'm going to show you how this works.
This is absolutely groundbreaking since there aren't really any tools like this out there at the moment.
When you go to brightlearn.ai, you can literally give it up to 75,000 characters, which is almost a book of itself.
And then you can choose how many chapters you want.
Three chapters is the free tier, and the other tiers require a token.
This system handles research, writing, fact-checking, PDF generation automatically.
You can customize the sources, the writing style, depth, even the book cover generation is beautiful.
And then you share it, download it, print it, distribute it.
Now, you might be thinking this is all just to get people to pay money, but that's not the case because I'm actually giving out some tokens with this video.
But also, HealthRangerStore.com is how Mike Adams and Brighteon funds their operation.
And through simply paying for the products that he has, it gives you tokens that you can use to create your own books.
But like I said, there's also a free tier, so you don't even need to support the store to create some books.
And three chapters is actually plenty of text.
For instance, this is a book called Whispers to the Divine, a compass of prayers for life's every moment.
And this is set as three chapters, but yet it's 71 pages.
I mean, look at the detail of this.
This is considered a free book, but this is an entire book.
And let me remind you: the crazy thing about this is that there's commercial use allowed for all these books, meaning you can literally generate a book with your name on it, and you can put that book on Amazon, on retailers, and you can make money from this book.
These are the books that I have produced.
I have one called Cult World, which is based on the documentary I produced.
I have one called A Positism based on a book that I actually wrote myself that I had rehash into the AI, which actually transformed it into something even more digestible for people.
I have one comparing Taoism and Christianity, Psychology of Authoritarianism, Mark Passio's Natural Law.
I fed it the entire transcript of his seminar and more.
My whole Unnatural Law seminar, I converted that into a book, Empower the Era for people who are young adults who want to change the world, right?
If you want to ignore politics, why that's important, that's based on an article I wrote on the liberator.us, Nature Osophy, based on my philosophy.
I fed it a bunch of information from my book, The Action Manifesto, very important for independent media.
I gave it all the ideas and action steps that I had for independent media and for influencers and what they can actually do with their audiences to change the world.
Five questions that destroy every political belief.
I created that based on Larkin Rose's five questions.
I even made a satire book called The Santa Claus Superstition based on Larkin Rose and the humor he uses within the most dangerous superstition, talking about Santa and comparing that to government.
I also create a book based on J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lore of the Rings because I did a seminar called The Lore of the Rings Unthroned.
And so I turned that into a book, Government and Slavery.
I explore the history and origins of slavery and the history and origins of government and how they interrelate as my slavery book, which I personally wrote, goes into.
So I fed it that data and it expanded on it and it provided more sources.
I mean, this is incredibly detailed.
You're talking 10 chapters, 70 sections, 29 reads, and there's already almost 50 downloads from people.
You can download any of these books for free.
Here's a favorite one of mine, Awaken Your Inner Middle Finger, Mastering the Art of Saying No by Fu Koff.
So, you know, satirical again, but this is actually by Mike Adams from Brighteon.
This tool is definitely skewed toward wanting to empower humanity, wanting to create a better world, a more free and healthy world, if you have not realized that already.
On the flyer that I've been handing out to people in person that says Escape the Matrix, I have as the very first point, do not just use ChatGPT.
And on there, it has listed Brighteon.ai with all these tools.
And so Mike Adams, being one of the most de-platformed content creators and scientists in the world, I think deserves some credit for these tools.
And I think people have to start using them, checking them out, and sharing them with other content creators.
As you can see, I already listed some of these books that I created on Amazon.
And in case you don't know how to do that, I have a tutorial on my channel on how to create Kindle e-books, on how to create paperback.
And I'll be honest with you, from the AI generator, you can create all the formats on Amazon's platform.
They do require a little bit of know-how.
It's not going to be as easy as just generating the book and just using Brighteon's platform, but it will allow you to make money once you figure out how to do it.
And it's not that hard, in my opinion.
For this book on Mark Passio's Natural Law, I had it produced the longest book format it could produce, and it's nearly 800 pages.
But it is extremely in detail.
Being an author myself of nearly 10 books, having to write them day in and day out, it's amazing to see that we can produce these books much quicker, and I can still give it all the information that I want it to talk about.
All right, there.
I hope you enjoyed that clip.
I know it is a bit lengthy, but Corey was doing such a great job there.
I didn't want to stop that.
He was explaining the significance of this tool and how you can use it and how he has used it to start selling books on Amazon.
And it's not only just that one book that he's selling on Amazon.
He's actually selling multiple books on Amazon now that he has generated at Brightlearn.ai.
But remember, he puts in a lot of effort.
For example, he'll pull together a lot of research material and transcripts and notes and he'll use his other books that he's previously written.
And he'll combine all this into a big prompt and then he'll put that prompt into the engine to create a new book based on all that research.
And that's actually the best way to do it.
The more research you provide Brightlearn, the more detailed the book can be and the more it's going to follow your research, which I think is what people want, right?
So there are all sorts of ways to use this tool.
And feel free.
Feel free to use it and spread the word.
Thank you for your support.
Okay, now in other news, the gold price and silver price, as I said earlier, you know, silver is over $66 and gold is over $4,300.
Just want to remind you that, well, remember when the special military operation began against Ukraine?
That was, what, February of 2022.
And here we are.
Well, it's coming up on four years, believe it or not.
But in those four years, I mean, gold was under $2,000.
I remember it crossed $2,000.
It went to $2050 for the first time after Russia invaded.
And then silver at that time, what was silver?
Like $18 or something or $19,000?
I forgot exactly, but it was definitely below $20.
So gold has more than doubled since then, significantly more.
And silver has more than tripled.
In fact, if you look at the five-year increase in gold pricing in dollars, it's up 129%.
And if you look at silver just this year or in the last 12 months, it's up 118% or 119%.
I mean, that's extraordinary.
In six months, silver has risen 74%.
And I'm going to be interviewing Andy Shekman soon.
I'll have that interview for you either Friday or Monday, probably Monday.
And you're not going to want to miss that because, of course, he's got some of the best inside information on what's happening with gold and silver.
So, well, you know, in Venezuela now, there are reports that Venezuela is deploying its navy to escort oil tankers because Trump has announced a massive embargo against the oil tankers going to and from Venezuela, which this reminds me of what the U.S. did to Japan in World War II.
It was a naval embargo of Japan to really put the squeeze on Japan and ultimately to force Japan's hand and to engineer the allowed attack on Pearl Harbor.
A lot of people don't know that, but the U.S. engineered that attack and let it happen in order to create the theater.
Well, I mean, they were real bombs.
You know, it was a real attack, but it was an engineered event to get the American people emotionally involved in the Pacific theater of World War II, when for the most part, the American people did not want to go to war with Japan.
So the U.S. put the naval blockade on the nation of Japan, starved them of energy to the point where they could no longer function for their economy because they don't have a lot of domestic oil supplies, obviously.
And that forced Japan into attacking the U.S. naval forces in Pearl Harbor to try to do a preemptive strike so that Japan could explore oil elsewhere.
And of course, that was under the previous Japanese empire.
But since the end of World War II, Japan has been occupied by U.S. military bases.
So that whole thing was engineered.
Well, makes you wonder what's being engineered in Venezuela right now.
Same tactic, right?
So a massive blockade of oil to and from.
Now, it's a different situation than Japan.
Japan needed to import a lot of oil for its economic survival, whereas Venezuela needs to export oil.
And without the ability to export oil, which the U.S. has sanctioned, so the U.S. says, well, all that oil is sanctioned oil and it's illegal oil, which is stupid to even say that.
There's no such thing as sanctioned oil.
It's just hydrocarbons.
But it all certainly makes you wonder if Trump is planning for the United States to occupy Venezuela.
That's where this is going in the same sense that we occupy Japan, or at least we have military bases all over Japan.
And Japan has, since the end of World War II, done the bidding of the U.S. government for the most part, including purchasing a massive amount of U.S. treasuries.
Japan is the largest holder of U.S. Treasury debt right now.
Why are they doing that?
Well, because we told them to.
I mean, that's the only reason why they're doing it.
Japan doesn't want to hold U.S. Treasury debt.
We've forced them to do that.
So this is probably, at least in my estimation, this is what's happening in Venezuela.
Same thing.
The U.S. is going to depose Maduro, get him out of the way, and use our Navy to blockade exports of oil and to force a domestic crisis that results in an uprising of the people.
And then they're going to call in an organic revolution for freedom.
But it's actually the CIA and the U.S. State Department running it, just like Ukraine, 2014, etc.
Same operation.
And then we'll have a U.S. puppet installed as the president of Venezuela.
And that'll probably be the woman, Machado, who was given a Nobel Peace Prize because the Nobel Committee is totally corrupt.
And they also follow orders and they give out prizes to achieve political theater.
The Nobel Prizes aren't legit, in case you're wondering.
They're all engineered.
It's Truman Show, all the way.
I mean, they gave a peace prize to Obama.
Come on.
And Obama was assassinating people with drones.
So, you know, there you go.
Anyway, probably the U.S. will occupy Venezuela soon.
And then Trump has already said that that will start to spread to Colombia.
And it makes you wonder how many U.S. troops are going to occupy how many countries or cities or military bases in South America.
Is South America going to be Trump's new stomping ground where we just take over everything and just rule everybody?
Seems like that's what Trump wants to achieve.
He says it's because we have to get Russia and China out of Venezuela.
And yeah, there's some validity to that.
And, you know, Patrick Burns says that Venezuela is running the election rigging schemes with the black box voting.
And yes, there's legitimacy to that accusation, I believe, as well.
But I think clearly the big reason here is oil.
It comes down to resource extraction, something that the U.S. Empire has proven to be very good at, and which the British Empire did in spades before the U.S. Empire got good at that following World War II.
So if you think about throughout history, empires, even the Roman Empire, existed because of resource extraction.
They would threaten a nation, sometimes invade, sometimes install a puppet, sometimes install a military force in order to extract resources.
It's just that those resources have changed over time.
You know, used to be, I don't know, spices or gold or cotton or textiles or whatever.
And now it's energy, it's oil, it could be gas, it could be a number of things.
But make no mistake, this is a resource extraction operation of why our military is in or off the coast of Venezuela.
And there's a legitimate chance that this thing could go kinetic very quickly, especially if the Venezuelan Navy is out there protecting their oil tankers and the U.S. Navy is out there stealing oil tankers.
How's that going to go down?
Sooner or later, somebody's going to open fire, I think, it appears.
And ships are going to go down and there's going to be a war.
And sailors are going to lose their lives, perhaps on both sides.
And that's where this is headed.
So be on the lookout for that.
Now, oil is very cheap right now, but that could change dramatically if things heat up with Venezuela.
Gold and silver, well, especially gold usually spikes when oil prices spike.
But gold has not followed oil down in pricing for the last few months, which is really interesting.
But if there's conflict with Venezuela, you could see that strongly affect gold prices more than silver.
So, you know, silver has risen dramatically this year.
Gold has not risen nearly as dramatically in terms of percentage-wise compared to silver.
But that could change if there's war with Venezuela.
And then finally, one other important question in all of this is what kind of weapon systems does Venezuela have that they acquired from Russia in particular?
But also potentially from China, because China has rather elaborate, very advanced land-based anti-ship missile technology.
And they have deployed that along their own coastline in order to project power from the east coast of China into areas like the, you know, the Taiwan Strait, et cetera, in anticipation of possible U.S. naval activity in that area.
And for that reason, I mean, really, China is running an area of denial in that region, because if the U.S. were to sail an aircraft carrier through there during a time of war, that aircraft carrier would be absolutely destroyed by China.
There's no question about that.
What about Venezuela?
Do they have land-based anti-ship missiles based on Russian technology or Chinese technology?
And the answer is probably yes, although I would suspect that the quantities are very limited.
And I would also suspect that if this comes to a shooting war, the U.S. Navy with its aircraft carriers there, or one at the moment, plus destroyers and everything else, would very quickly destroy Venezuela's land-based offensive missile launch capabilities.
So I do not think that Venezuela's military capabilities are any match at all for the U.S. Navy in that area.
Venezuela doesn't have the firepower of even Iran.
It's not even close, and certainly not the firepower of Russia.
Russia has Oreshnik missiles that can sink U.S. aircraft carriers, but has Russia given Oreshniks to Venezuela?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
Has Russia given Kinzal hypersonic missiles to Venezuela?
I also doubt it.
Even though Russia wants Venezuela to stay away from U.S. influence, I don't think Russia wants World War III with the United States.
And so I'm very skeptical of any idea that Russia has given all these advanced weapons to Venezuela.
I think Venezuela is going to be bombed, and they probably will be defeated.
Maduro will be out, and the U.S. will occupy the country.
You know, in some way, not every block of every city, but I mean, the important points, the capital city, you know, the ports, the military bases, etc.
You know, controlling lines of communication and transportation, and especially the oil fields and oil extraction, oil refineries.
U.S. troops will be stationed there to protect the refineries.
And then what you're going to see is the domestic uprising of what the U.S. will call terrorist groups, so-called Venezuelan terrorists, but actually they will be groups that will be trying to kill U.S. soldiers who are, from their point of view, they are occupying enemy forces, invaders, right?
So you're going to see domestic Venezuelan groups with a lot of access to explosives and things like that.
They're going to be killing and harassing in sort of a guerrilla warfare type of situation.
They're going to be extracting lives from the U.S. military.
And the big question in my mind is, there's a point, there's a certain number of casualties of U.S. soldiers or sailors that the U.S. can cover up and call it a training exercise mishap.
You know, you've seen this with Ukraine.
Like all the American soldiers that were killed by Russia in Ukraine were told, oh, it's a training exercise problem, or they were killed in a car crash off duty or whatever, you know, just some BS story.
And they can cover a certain amount of deaths with those made-up stories.
But once you get beyond a few hundred casualties or even a few thousand casualties, if that were to happen, it becomes very difficult to cover up and the stories start to break.
You know, investigative journalism might still exist somewhere.
And once a big story goes public in the U.S. that, let's say, hundreds or even over a thousand U.S. soldiers have been killed in Venezuela, then you'll start to see calls from the U.S. population, especially from the Democrats and all of the anti-war movement in America, which is quite strong, saying, hey, this is insane.
Get us out of Venezuela.
Why are we spilling blood in Venezuela?
And heck, I mean, I guess you could call me anti-war in an overall sense as well, because I don't like conflict.
I don't want to see people dying and suffering, etc.
So I don't want us, I don't want U.S. troops on the ground in Venezuela or anywhere, or, you know, or in Ukraine for that matter, or in Japan.
I think we should pull our military bases out of Japan and we should get our bases out of the Middle East and we should bring all our soldiers home and stop trying to police the whole world.
But that's not a popular opinion in the Trump administration, that's for sure.
So anyway, bottom line, this is going to be a very dicey situation to watch.
I'll try to keep you as informed as I can.
But ultimately, the bottom line in all this is resource extraction.
It's about rare earths.
It's about oil and energy.
And it's also, as Michael Jan said, it's about routes.
He says routes and resources.
So yeah, controlling the routes and extracting the resources.
That's what keeps empires alive.
You could call this geopolitical angiogenesis.
This is building the blood supply to the global tissues that keep an empire alive.
You have to have the routes.
You have to have the blood flowing through, which is the resources.
And you have to protect the routes through which those resources flow.
Otherwise, your empire ceases to function, especially as we have in the U.S., think about it, we have over 50% of the U.S. adult population is functionally illiterate.
So this whole idea that, oh, we're going to reindustrialize America.
We're going to have everybody working in the factories again.
Yeah, not if they can't read Donald Trump.
I mean, I'm not saying it's his fault.
It's the fault of the, you know, it's of the public education system, the Libtard universities, the teachers' unions.
You know, they give everybody an A when they can't read.
Like this, this is a problem that has been going on for decades.
Okay.
I'm not saying it's Trump's problem.
What I'm saying is Trump's assumption that we can reindustrialize America, we can just retrain the workforce to suddenly start making, you know, robots and drones and electric vehicles and microprocessors.
Yeah, not if they can't read.
So, I mean, I don't know why this very simple concept does not compute with journalists and people in Washington, D.C. You can't, I mean, if you can't read, you can't run complex machinery because at some point there's a how-to manual, you know, there's a maintenance manual.
At some point, you got to read instructions.
You got to read the warning signs, like, don't stick your fingers in this thing or you'll lose them.
You know, if you can't read, you really can't function in a high-technology industrialized society.
And when you have over half of the adult population that is functionally illiterate, you are at the end of your empire, just to be clear.
This is the last chapter, as I've said a hundred times.
It's rather obvious.
The currency is collapsing in value.
The rule of law has already collapsed.
Election integrity has completely collapsed.
Every institution that you can think of, think about the CDC, the FDA, just criminal organizations.
And sadly, government is now just working with big tech to try to control everything and try to exploit everybody and surveil everybody.
It is the technocracy that we warned about in yesterday's broadcast.
These are all end-of-empire type of strategies.
The empire resorts to censorship, coercion, theft, like Trump stealing oil from the Venezuelan oil tankers or straight-up piracy on the high seas, just stealing everything that the empire needs to survive.
That's the stage that we are in.
It's the theft stage.
Just steal everything from everybody and censor everybody.
And then maybe we can keep the empire alive until the next election.
And maybe they can.
Maybe they can.
But eventually the system craters.
And I don't know what day that is, but my prediction, my previous prediction, had said that the U.S. Empire, as we know it, will not exist two weeks from now.
And of course, I've had to modify that prediction.
I don't think it's going to collapse in two weeks, but it could.
I mean, we are really very close.
It's probably going to take a little longer.
So my prediction will have been early, but not wrong, just early.
And 2026, 2027, man, if we make it to 2028, again, I'll be surprised.
But then again, I've been surprised this entire time.
However, you know, forces are at work globally right now that are unprecedented, such as the BRICS currencies and China's rise of technology dominance and Russia's rise of military dominance, etc.
Even Iran's missile capabilities that did not exist before.
The first time ever that they've had the ability to really destroy Israel, for example, with ballistic missiles that they demonstrated that over the summer.
So we are in completely new territory here.
We're at the end of the empire.
We are ruled by incompetent fools who don't understand economics or history.
And the vast majority of the adults in America are illiterate.
And those are all facts of where we are.
What happens next?
You know, there's a little wiggle room, but the broad strokes are kind of obvious.
The system collapses.
The system collapses.
The currency collapses, the power structure, the political centralization.
There will be revolts.
There will be chaos, disruptions.
And then at the end of that, there will be something new and different.
And the next generation after this will learn the value of hard work and some hard lessons.
And then people will learn to read again, maybe that would be something.
And, you know, nations rise and fall.
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When the pandemic first started and it didn't match, you know, biology, and when my clients were calling me and asking me, you know, Doc, is this a bioweapon?
And I had to give them an answer, and very quickly I said it is.
Essentially, the spike protein is a replicating version, a glycopro protein version of VX.
And VX, the only reason that its name is VX, is it's Nazi technology and it's called Agent Venomous X.
They had synthesized and replicated a chemical, a organophosphate version of snake venom.
Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
We're going to be joined by one of the key people who had some of the earliest warnings about the dangers of the mRNA jabs and also some of the best solutions for saving lives and protecting people from these engineered bioweapons that were designed to maim and kill.
And so our guest today is Dr. Tao Braun, and his website is drtaubrawn.com.
And that's just d-r-t-a-u-b-r-a-u-n.com.
It's been a few months since we've spoken, but welcome back, Dr. Braun.
It's an honor to have you back on.
I really appreciate all your work.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What a pleasure is to see you again, Mike.
And just thank you for the ongoing work that you've been doing, the just continued dedication to the truth.
And I think that as the six-year mark comes on this, I think one of the most important things people can do is actually realize that they need to start picking aside.
They need to draw that sand in the line and they need to really, really follow those that are 100% committed to the truth, not trying to please anybody, not trying to please the politics, just simply staying on point in terms of this world needs people that are willing to be truthful all the time.
Yeah, I completely agree, of course.
And one of the truths that's now coming out is the link between vaccines and autism.
And of course, all the doctors, the mainstream pediatricians and vaccine pimps, they're losing their minds over the fact that anybody is questioning their cult of scientism or whatever you want to call it.
But talk to us about what's happening right now with the uncovering of the truth about vaccines and autism and even a few little points of good news from RFK Jr. and HHS, although it's small, but it's something.
It's moving in the right direction.
What's your take?
Yeah, so I think it's important that people see sort of where my background comes in in terms of how I made a breakthrough, what I think is a very, very big breakthrough in terms of the autism vaccine link.
And so I think it's important to go way back and know that probably a part that a lot of people don't know about me is that my very first job at 15 years old, beyond chores around the house, was vaccinating babies.
I donated my time on weekends.
I would go with med students out of a university in South Africa and I would join those med students and we would take a van and we would go out to this clinic in a region in South Africa called Muldersdrift.
And one of the biggest things that I did there at that time, just out of necessity and need in those communities with volunteers showing up is that I would get assigned the task often on a Saturday to vaccinate babies.
Some of them might have come in for another medical emergency like dehydration.
And so we also used to pull them out of the line and triage, right?
So a lot of what I landed up doing as a professional in terms of emergency management and public health, a lot of that core knowledge came from very, very early informative years of sort of building an understanding of what the full system looked like.
And I remember at the time, one of the things that struck me as sort of core knowledge on the vaccine topic is, you know, even at 15, especially with the giant responsibility of vaccinating babies, I remember how long they spent training me and making sure that I was aspirating the needle, that I knew exactly where that needle needed to go.
They explained the dangers of any of those substances getting into a blood vessel.
They explained the importance of just making sure that the vaccine was given correctly.
And then, of course, the pandemic came along.
And especially here in the States, there'd been pre-pandemic, there'd been a huge change, mostly, I think, out of not wanting to waste a second's worth of time.
And so doctors and Nurses and medical professionals in pharmacists that have been giving out vaccines are no longer taught to aspirate.
And so that was also a big eye-opener for me in terms of how just reckless vaccines have become.
And, you know, just some of the basics that were taught to me back then, you know, it just struck me of how some of those were left out.
Well, and also importantly, though, it used to be doctors were taught you never vaccinate expectant mothers.
Yeah.
And they were taught that, you know, vaccines can carry risks, not just at the injection site, but systemically.
And today, it's become a religion among those pushing the vaccines, just like vaccines are the answer to everything.
You don't have an immune system until we inject you with one.
That we should vaccinate you when you are acutely sick, which doesn't even make any sense in the mainstream vaccination theory.
It makes no sense at all, but that's the way it's pushed.
It's like a new form of magic.
It's not science.
It's been a form of magic for as far back as I can trace to early attempts of what would have been called primitive vaccines back in Egyptian days, where they were taking pathogens and antigens and they were essentially blowing it into the nose.
And ultimately, I think one of those mishaps potentially led to the plague.
And a big guidance for me around my pandemic response has been actually looking at the story of Exodus and the plague and the Passover.
That was the easiest way that I could find viable solutions to plague, to the idea that something has happened where people have been poisoned.
And what would some of those solutions look like?
And so, yeah, the magic of it, if you think back even to the biblical stories of, you know, sort of what we've now seen, you know, the fight over what vaccines should be and which companies can hold them.
I mean, you go back to early scripture and you see sort of arguments happening between Moses and Pharaoh.
And Moses says, well, I've got this one universal approach.
And Pharaoh's people are like, no, well, my 10 snakes are better than your one snake.
And you can see how much of that is now still prevalent in the background of pharmaceuticals and especially as it relates to venom.
People just don't realize how far this has gone back.
Yeah, I mean, even in Deuteronomy, right, God teaches you're not supposed to ingest the blood of other animals, but look at what goes into vaccines.
It's the cow, the pig, the African green monkey kidneys festering blood and tissue and serum.
Plus, on top of that, then aborted human fetal tissue.
It is so anti-God or anti-Christ, if you want to say New Testament, but it's anti-God.
The entire vaccine industry, from a biblical perspective, would have to be classified as satanic, period.
Yeah, I agree completely.
Just the idea of the element of witchcraft to it and the idea of putting all of these poisons together and stirring up this pot of toxins.
And then there's this great cartoon that I often post online on X where Kalmet, one of the earliest vaccinologists, there's a picture of him stirring up all the different venoms from different snakes that he collected after a flood and into shit.
I mean, into E. coli, which is the same way that they're making it now.
And there's this old cartoon from back in the day.
Now, that was, Calmet was involved in formulating the BCG vaccine.
And people took his work.
And when they first tested it out, I mean, they killed a horrific number of children.
I don't remember exactly how many it was, but it was double digits that the first attempt of actually using that in a scalable way and the same way as we see now, it killed children.
And so you do, you know, you're 100% right that there's this element of magic and witchcraft and sorcery.
And quite frankly, also just the secrecy.
They use very strange technical terms.
The science is all hidden.
Moderna, for example, has a long history.
People can go back and look at the articles.
When Moderna was doing its early work and pioneering anti-cancer gene therapies, there's articles that claim how secret that work was and how tight their NDAs were and also just how horrific the working conditions were.
Once you're dabbling in that stuff and once you have psychopaths running it, you're going to have people that are within that system that find themselves in this, essentially in a witch's factory.
And they don't know necessarily what they've signed up for, but they certainly know what threat there is in their life if they try and leave it.
An interesting part of the Moderna story that not a lot of people spend time on is Derek Rossi, who's the co-founder of Moderna.
And just have a look at the stream of companies that he started after he left Moderna, I think in 2015.
And they're all gene therapy.
He's got an anti-venom company.
They are anti-cancer.
They're all the things that the vaccine caused.
And like everybody else, I mean, he's now so wealthy from bringing out these poisons.
And there's no science in being able to predict what they can do if the research is showing you what it's going to do.
And then you build companies based on solving the problem that you're going to cause.
There's no intelligence in that.
It's just pathology.
It's a psychopath's dream.
The great segue on all of this, Mike, is that I think what I've done over here with vaccines is that I didn't intend to look into vaccines more than I had done over 20 years ago when I first came to the States.
I set up a wellness center with a chiropractor in Miami that was a fully integrated wellness center.
We had chiropractors working alongside acupuncturists, massage therapists.
I didn't start out as being somebody that was anti-vaccine.
I started out as somebody very, very skeptical of the so-called anti-vax side, even to the point that I think that that's part of the problems I ran into with my partner at the time, who was a chiropractor who specialized in neurology.
And she was seeing a lot of vaccine injured children.
And I don't think I saw the full picture.
I was very much still had a traditional approach and understanding of vaccines.
I was one of those people that thought that they were this sort of miracle cure that had eradicated disease around the planet.
Embarrassingly, I can tell you, I even went to a workshop where they covered Andrew Wakefield's work.
And I remember doing exactly what people do with people like Wakefield's work, where I say, well, isn't it because that we're diagnosing autism more often now?
And I said, I remember just thinking, and I'm sure there's actually like video footage of me being so obnoxious in that room and quite frankly, just not being open to the information.
So I've come a long way.
The important thing is that you have the humility and the presence of mind to be able to assess new information and to upgrade your knowledge and your conclusions based on that new information.
And that process is indicative of the scientific method or what we might just call learning.
Whereas what we have today is a class of arrogant pricks who call themselves doctors, who are absolutely unwilling to learn, who are themselves ignorant, and who are really child mutilators.
And they are incapable of learning anything new.
They're just indoctrination, biological skin bag, pharmaceutical vending machines, you know, the pediatricians, et cetera.
So this is what sets you apart from those people.
And occasionally somebody from the mainstream doctors group will get red-pilled and they'll start to challenge things and question things.
But that's it's, I mean, you're an expert in psychology as well.
And isn't it true that the only way to get through medical school is to be a conformist, period, at that time?
Yeah, but not only do you have to be, but it's selected for that.
So fast forward, I ended up going to a high school in between that was very, very wealthy kids that had access to incredible resources and the arts and TV production.
And what I learned from that is I learned opportunity.
I learned what it is when people have an entrepreneurial drive.
I learned what it is for people to have the space where they're not bogged down by daily chores.
Everything is done for them.
And they literally, if they want to and if they're motivated, that freedom allows them to think through problems, to solve situations, and ultimately to invest in all kinds of things, both good and bad.
But it was those kids and those parents that truly showed me what the other side of the world looks like, right?
The elite side of the world for most people, not everybody, but for most people, the elite side of the world is sort of a door that you never go and see in terms of how they live, how they think, what they spend their time on.
Those basics were very eye-opening for me.
Well, now, and the elite side of the world today is trying to kill the rest of the world because it's very clear that, for example, these mRNA jabs, these are engineered bioweapons.
They're intended.
I mean, I even saw a video from Michael Yeden, former VP of Pfizer, saying these are nerve agents.
These are designed as nerve agents.
And it's not quite VX nerve gas, which would kill people instantly or very quickly.
It's more of a slow kill nerve agent that can cause systemic inflammation and genetic alteration, neurological damage, et cetera.
But you, I mean, first of all, can you speak to that?
That these are weapons.
This is why I love you.
And I love the fact that you'll give me a space to talk through.
That's my work, right?
I mean, I don't know if, you know, I haven't seen that from Yadin, but my progression through this was when the pandemic first started and it didn't match biology.
And in a couple of places, you could find doctors like Kyle Saddell in New York City speaking up.
And he confirmed the stuff that I had worked through right at the beginning of first quarter of 2020, where just in the first month alone, and when my clients were calling me and asking me, you know, Doc, is this a bioweapon?
And I had to give them an answer.
And very quickly, I said it is.
And then doctors like Carl Sedell were trying to get the word out that this wasn't matching anything that people were saying, that it wasn't matching a viral respiratory disease.
So, the two things I looked at immediately from a bio from biowarfare, the side of things was that this matched VX and it also matched anthrax.
I mean, one of the things that I just couldn't understand is where were my people, you know, where were the instructions for anybody to go out and check surfaces and look for anthrax.
I mean, the symptoms of sublethal amounts of anthrax absolutely match what was bringing people into ERs with COVID.
And so, I was looking at it from a completely different lens.
I wasn't looking at it as viral.
I wasn't looking at it that the transmission was happening in some sort of, you know, matching some sort of epidemiological model.
I was like, no, this is not happening at all.
What actually the data is showing, even in 2020, that they're hotspots and that those hotspots aren't traveling like a regular virus.
You're not getting viral spread.
And so, my work culminated in, I would say, just within the last year, where I actually named the spike.
I named it, you know, this spike protein.
I named it spike protein VX.
It is VX in its VX in itself is a chemical and it's an organic compound.
And it's in a different class of nerve agents.
But essentially, the spike protein is a replicating version, a glycopro protein version of VX.
And VX, the only reason that its name is VX is it's Nazi technology and it's called agent venomous X.
They had synthesized and replicated a chemical, a organophosphate version of snake venom.
And so VX is snake venom.
It is powdered, dried up chemical snake venom.
And the reason that you need a lot more of it than the spike protein is its size.
It's bigger as a molecule.
And you also, because it just doesn't have a replicating function, you cannot get it into people's own biology and have those molecular switches trigger and have the biology, the person replicate more of that substance.
That's part of the genius, the evil genius of what the spike protein is capable of doing.
So hold on a second.
So this, I mean, it's amazing what you're sharing with us here, but it also helps explain why some of the anti-venom protocols are working so effectively against the vaccine damage and so-called long COVID, which is just long-term vaccine damage, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And part of that is where I started looking at the importance of copper, for example.
And we spoke about that previously.
I started looking at zinc.
People like Zelenko had highlighted, everybody had known his protocol and he highlighted zinc.
I even had a phone call with him while he was in Europe just shortly before he died.
And part of what I was trying to do is try and tell him, Dr. Zelenko, your protocol is correct.
But if people are going to be on this for any amount of time, they're going to end up being copper deficient.
And then there's symptoms that are going to match respiratory systems and immune compromise systems and blood issues and cancers essentially is going to come from copper deficiency.
And so I try to have that conversation with him.
Obviously, he was going through a really hard time himself.
And I don't think, I think for a lot of people, I just think that copper is misunderstood.
I think that the damage got done.
When we talked about the earliest forms of vaccinology, we should also look at what happened when Moses brought out the solution as an anti-venom, as an anti-plague.
He brought out brass.
Essentially, he brought out a brass rod, and that brass rod is what's needed as an antimicrobial in the body.
When you have zinc and copper in sufficient amounts, your body will sort it out in terms of a ratio.
And the make it or break it enzyme for what people will call COVID or COVID vaccine injury is SOD1, which is copper.
It's a copper-zinc super mutase dioxide.
It's essentially what your body needs to fight that level of oxidative stress.
You cannot do disease or trauma, whether it's a car crash, a drowning.
It's in my opinion, and I like the fact that you give me freedom to talk about a wide range of topics, but it's my opinion why the Last Supper is highlighted in terms of Jesus' story.
If somebody came to me today and told me that I was going to have to survive a crucifixion, what I would do is I would replicate all of the nutritional needs in high quantities from the Passover plate.
And that is how you would survive essentially a crucifixion, which is a drowning that creates that level of oxidative stress on the body.
And if you have a look at how interesting it is, in a scientific way, it also explains resurrection, because if you don't have those nutritional substances in your body available for that level of trauma, you will succumb to it.
But if you do have it, it's the same as somebody being able to pull through a horrific coma.
Well, I'm not going to open up the can of worms about that you just mentioned with the crucifixion and the resurrection, because biblical scholars will debate that all day.
But I will say cheers with my copper cup.
There we go.
Beautiful.
Yeah, probably copper was used a lot, perhaps even at the Last Supper.
And now, when you talk about copper, and I want to focus back on copper, when you talk about copper, it's not just the inorganic elemental form of copper.
It's copper that's part of another molecule.
And so that people understand, for example, chlorophyll is surrounding a magnesium element, just like hemoglobin is surrounding an iron element.
And there are many different molecules that can have a copper core.
So talk to us about the different types of copper, different variations of copper-based molecules or structures that are important for us to know about for human health.
Well, I think the important thing is you just said it.
So copper makes up the scaffolding of so much, right?
So big and small in the human body, copper is involved in transportation, in keeping balance in immune function.
But essentially, it is a, either things are going to wrap around it just based on its size.
It's a big atom.
It has an extra positive charge on it.
And so it's attractive to be able to bond with electrons that are needing positivity, right?
They're needing that proton.
And as well as that, is that it forms a lattice.
It's able, this is why you've got a copper cup.
It is able to bond together and you're able to beat it down and to create a sheet of it.
And so the body does the same.
I mean, we are essentially electrochemical.
And so it's in all of our wiring.
I mean, it's the nervous system.
It is, we are no different than, you know, if somebody opened up a circuit board and you're going to see copper used in its various forms in different ways in the body.
Our own tests, the way that we look at copper right now is very, very superficial and very basic in that, you know, a doctor can say, well, your copper levels are fine because it's in your plasma, you know, but what does that mean?
You know, is it bound correctly?
Do you have enough zinc in the places that that copper is needed to go?
Is that copper only high in your plasma because you've got inflammation, right?
And so if you're losing it from other places and your levels are high, that's worthless in terms of knowing that that level is sufficient if it's pulled from the hair, if it's pulled it from bone, if it's pulled it from the immune system.
So it really needs a deeper understanding of that the body itself is going to take care of those ratios and it's going to put it where it needs.
And it is only through the extreme stress, our environmental stress, EMF, COVID vaccines, any vaccine diseases, that that ratio, that beautiful ratio between especially copper, zinc, is going to become noticeable.
And then you're going to be able to tie that to pretty much every disease and symptom and response, whether it is in venomation, whether it's Lyme disease.
I mean, all of it.
It comes down to a fundamental level of understanding, not just copper.
I mean, I've focused a lot on copper.
I appreciate you bringing up copper, but really is about the minerals in our body, the channels that operate.
I'm sitting on an email that I need to post one of these days where right at the beginning, before I got thrown out of the venom toxin community for asking the right questions, one of the emails I have is somebody saying something that, you're right, Dr. Braun, we're looking at this.
I'm working with, what's his name, Barney Graham, on whether a spike protein is affecting calcium channels.
Well, of course it is, right?
And it's going to take them, they're going to drip out this information.
They're going to hold on to sick people for as long as they can before they actually solve any of these problems because it's highly profitable.
By the way, the thing that got me kicked out of the venom community, and I was on there, I was on a committee for an international conference on venom and toxins.
And they kicked me out for starting to ask questions about the cysteine in the spike protein and also about the venom homologs and how significant they were.
And also if we weren't, if by that stage, if the venom community was saying, well, this is not venom, then me as a person just entering into that field and asking questions as a scientist, then I wanted to know from them, then what are we supposed to call it?
If the sequences are there, and it's not venom in terms of, you know, it's not a colony of vellum and it's not full sequences, then I didn't have the right words.
So I didn't know whether I'm supposed to be calling it a homologue, an analog, a transcript, a short peptide.
That was for them to be able to fill in the gaps because that's their work.
The fact that they never have should be very telling for people just in terms of the relationship that they have between the venomics community and pharmaceuticals.
Their funding comes from the pharmaceutical industry.
They supply the pharmaceutical industry with sequences that then go into libraries.
And then you have giant companies like Backham in Switzerland that then keep these libraries and they stock sequences and sell those sequences around the world.
A little segue.
Are you open to a segue, Mike, that's related to that?
Well, yeah, but hold on.
I wanted to bring up the website of a company called Venom Venom Tech.
Oh, wow.
Their site's not there anymore.
Well, that shouldn't be surprising.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Okay.
But anyway, the cash information.
Venom Tech, bridging the gap between cosmetic peptides, products, biodiversity, et cetera.
Whatever.
For some reason, the website's not working right.
Just go to Baccham if you can.
B-A-C-H-E-M.
Just do a search on Baccham as a company.
I track the net worth of the owner.
It's a family-based company.
And I just tracked the billions that he started making from 2019 onwards.
There we go.
Backham.
Yeah.
Okay.
They're the largest supplier.
This is their world.
They are the largest library and supplier and manufacturer of transcripts, of essentially what I've started calling analogs.
They are short chain.
They are short-chain peptides that are only functional.
This is the part that has been really, really taxing on me in terms of even the Maha movement and so-called people that are health freedom people that are supposedly scientists.
It should have never been my job or Dr. Artis's job to explain this to anybody.
They've got much, much further of a background and the right words to describe these processes.
The thing that they never do is they think it's some form of academic stupidity, what I call accatards.
They are not able to do what probably you and most of your audience can do.
They're not necessarily hands-on people that can fix things.
And if they don't have the right tool, they can't improvise.
And they're not willing to take their critical thinking out of their comfort zone.
And one of the biggest things that I've been able to do, and I think I'm probably at the moment the most proficient person at being able to do this, is really just look at the functional homology of the spike protein.
What you talked about in terms of a nerve agent.
The nerve agent is only one aspect of it.
But my triple threat framework has been built to explain that what is happening with the spike protein is that it is highly pathological because it is essentially built to be the key for three main systems in the human body, hibernation, torpor, invanimation, and pregnancy immune tolerance.
And lately, I've been using leaving out the word pregnancy because ultimately it's a form of immune tolerance that is also related to hibernation.
And of course, it can occur in males too.
But really, very, very briefly, what that is, is that when you look at what's happening with people with long COVID and vaccine injury, which I blur together because we don't have sufficient data to know one way or another what that looks like in terms of how much is one versus the other, or if only vaccine injury actually exists.
I think that there is long COVID, but I suspect most of that was poisoning.
I suspect most of that was nerve agent.
Spike protein can be released just like VX.
I've tracked a paper that I will bring out or an article that I will bring out is I have looked at wastewater samples pre-Wuhan.
I've looked at wind patterns.
There are a couple of hotspots that show the potential of a purpose-pural aerosolized release and then the repercussions of what that would look like that drove people into a hospital with a mysterious unknown disease, which happened from about mid-year onwards in 2019, from about July onwards, you start seeing this uptick of the same thing that we now know as vaccine injury.
You start seeing that roll out in an aerosolized, a very, very low transmissible race.
One of the biggest lies of the pandemic is this belief of how easily COVID or SARS-CoV-2 can transmit from one person to another.
Yeah, the five-foot rule, right?
Right.
I mean, it's, you know, the chances of somebody breathing it in and having problems with it is very high.
A sublethal dose, you need much, much less of it than VX to create the same issues.
And I'm talking about sublethal.
Both of them in high quantities would kill and that kill instantly.
And if the footage out of China that we saw was valid, which I don't know if it was made up or not, or propaganda, but if that footage is real, what you're seeing is spike protein in clouds, in essentially, when I say a cloud, Brownian motion holding together this very, very intense,
spike protein-rich air that somebody would pass through and literally knock them to the ground and potentially kill them, give them a heart attack.
It would be on a less than sublethal dose, it just matches disease.
But on a very high level of dose, it's much, much more powerful than VX.
But it doesn't transmit well, right?
So the transfection part is key, which is why they needed the injectables.
But to seed it, they would need to be able to seed it in a way that there could be a claim that there's a pandemic.
And then obviously, then we needed the claim that we needed a military response, right?
A counter-biodefense response to what they claimed was a pandemic.
It's important for people to understand there are really two different biological weapons at work here.
One biological weapon is actually aerosolized and sprayed on populations in places like New York City or sprayed into the air in the subways or wherever in order to create symptoms that have people panic and go to the hospital so they can create the COVID pandemic narrative of injury and of deaths.
And importantly, some of the most prominent symptoms there were indicative of nerve or VX nerve gas type poisoning, which is loss of smell and loss of a sense of taste, right?
So those are big clues right there that these are nerve agents, period.
And then that was designed to drive people into the vaccines, which was a different set of biological depopulation weapons to be injected into people.
So we're really talking about a binary weapon theater.
Yes.
And also that the fact that it is the same substance, you don't need a different substance.
The one is an aerosolized form in a higher dose, and that's spike protein.
I've always claimed right from early 2020, I wasn't a virologist and I looked at this and I said, there's no viral components needed for this.
There was early data immediately in 2020 that led you know that just the spike protein alone was highly toxic.
And so I just started looking at it differently.
And just like you just translated, To make this into a depopulation tool that would go from being something that's noticeable in terms of if you're using aerosolized amounts and if you're using wind, you know, you can only get away with that and seeding hotspots.
And by the way, Operation C-Spray and other federal CIA programs, I mean, they've tested this, right?
I mean, they've tested this.
Yeah, we've documented this exactly right.
So they've done like a hundred experiments on U.S. prisoners, on soldiers, on black people, on civilians in San Francisco.
The one you just mentioned, they sprayed over San Francisco.
They even did one in New York.
They did one in New York during the pandemic.
I remember that.
They said they released the bacteria with tagging on it.
They're doing it all the time.
And they will do it under the guise of biodefense rather than bio-warfare.
And it should be very telling for people that we went from, we've had a rebranding, right, of our military.
You know, what's the exact terms?
But we're now, what's the Pentagon's change that we're not a defense program anymore?
We're at war.
We forget the exact phrase that you use, but we are now in the business of war.
We're not in the business of defense, right?
Which ultimately, if you have a look at the triggering points of that, you're talking about the start of that happening in 2019, where we technically attacked in a non-biodefense way.
We were the aggressor.
We were the predator in terms of releasing this and then following it up with a claim that we needed biodefense.
Well, yeah, and importantly, this is war against our own people.
So this is our own governments waging war against us.
Yeah.
And I think for a lot of people, I think what you fortunately, most people are built in a way where psychologically they're not necessarily capable of the most evil thoughts or the most evil plans.
And thank goodness for that, right?
I mean, there's enough bad stuff that happens in the world with people that are capable of it.
But what it does is people are just not psychologically and cognitively prepared to put themselves in the mindset of a perpetrator.
And the idea, I guess, an easier way that people could understand what that means when we say they're at war with us, people say, well, why would they be at war with us?
I think an easier way for people to understand what this war looks like in terms of depopulation is that we have essentially elected and not elected people across the planet to manage us no differently than animals in a safari park.
When we take away our own individual responsibility and we change government and when we embolden corporations.
So we've voted in essentially these corporations.
And then our politicians are supposed to just represent us, right?
They're supposed to go and say, I represent X amount of people and they voted this way.
And therefore, I'm voting on their behalf in this room.
They've given me vested power to be able to say yay because they want this vote to go through.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I would submit there's a much easier explanation for all of this, which is that every Western government is financially insolvent unless they figure out how to eliminate the vast majority of the retirees and the pensioners and those who are collecting entitlements.
And especially with the rise of both AI agents and then AI robots over the next few years, mass displacement of human workers into the unemployed category, which will eventually require universal basic income, some kind of payment, which actually Besant and Trump have announced that the first payment begins in 2026.
It's going to be, they call it the tariff dividend.
No, it's just UBI, chapter one.
So the only way for these Western governments to stay solvent is to eliminate the people that are collecting all of these benefits and who are not themselves contributing either the cognitive labor or the physical labor to the economy because that's going to be replaced by machines.
I mean, that's a very simple explanation, not difficult for people to understand once they realize that that's true.
Yeah, but you understand it and you've got the ego strength and you've got the you're I think part of the difference is that for a lot of people, they are very self-protective, right?
It goes back to the very point of the very beginning of our conversation where you said, well, at least I've got the ability to correct myself, a form of learning.
A lot of people have not got the capacity or never been given some form of either permission or encouragement to be self-corrective in that way.
It's higher level functioning, even to the point where what you're really asking for is no different from animals that are destined for the slaughterhouse.
And people can't comprehend the same way as an animal doesn't sit while they're grazing, whether they're free grazing or whether they're in a tiny enclosure.
They're in such basic survival mode that the last thing that they're contemplating is how things are going to end for them and why their friends are no longer there.
And that's where we at now.
I mean, people are just dropping dead around human beings and it's not noticeable for two reasons.
One, you just highlighted one reason.
When you pick up a phone now and you're trying to do something online, whether in a with a corporation, a healthcare system, customer service, you're not dealing with a human being for the most part.
And so people are not realizing that the death toll is happening all around them because they're not being told that no one can answer the phone because they just lost 20 employees in the last year that are now dead.
Nobody notices because the phone is still being answered.
And the other trick to all of this is that you won't notice it physically in two ways.
You won't notice physical loss if there's replacement.
And this is where the immigration factor comes in.
When you bring in people, you've got bodies and those bodies are moving around the same spaces as us.
They're human beings.
We're seeing them.
They're renting apartments.
They're shopping.
Otherwise, we would be in a ghost town, right?
We would be feeling.
Go ahead.
And I would point out that the biggest wave of immigration now is machines.
So, I mean, I don't know if you want to call them immigrants, but it's no longer going to be the South American immigrants taking the farm jobs in America.
It's going to be the automated systems.
It's going to be the robots.
And right now, it's the cognitive machines that are taking away the desk jobs, especially customer support jobs are already completely obsolete at this point, utterly obsolete.
And by the way, I mean, I would rather talk to an AI agent to get my customer service problem solved as a customer than to talk to a human, because then I don't have all the wait time.
If I can talk to a machine right now that can competently solve my problem, I prefer that as a customer.
But those people who are displaced, the reason the global elite want to kill them is because they don't have enough new jobs for them to go into.
And they don't want a lot of unemployed, hungry people rising up with social revolts all over the world.
So it's a massive kill operation.
And I know you get this, and my audience gets this, but the mainstream doesn't get it.
And I recently put out a book called The Cost of Ignorance.
And seriously, folks, there's no excuse.
If you don't realize this, and if you don't prepare for what's coming, you probably will not survive what's happening.
So, the cost of ignorance is your life at this point.
And that's why being informed is so critical.
Tao, we are just about out of time here.
We were supposed to cover something really big.
And I'd like to, do we have to?
Yeah, we're not totally out of time.
Now, go ahead with that last topic, but we've only got like five minutes.
So, jump right into it.
That's perfect because the concept that I want to couple with you as it relates to vaccines and autism is actually surprisingly simple.
And it's going to be for a lot of people, it's going to be one of those moments why, like, this is too simple to be believable for some.
For others, they're going to be like, why didn't I think of that?
And I think what you're going to see once I put out this paper, I think you're also going to see, just like with the Venom work, I think you're going to get a lot of pushback because it highlights such a simple, a simple, simple problem with the vaccines.
I'm just trying to pull up my notes over here because I don't want to leave anything out, especially if we're going to do this in a very concise way.
But ultimately, here's what I've discovered with vaccines.
Almost all vaccines, here's where I can do it in a quick QA question.
Mike, you know a lot about vaccines and you know a lot about the adjuvants in them.
You know what the substance that's found in all of them consistently is?
Aluminum.
Straight off the bat.
Okay, aluminum always comes up, right?
Because it's a really wonderful distraction because the thing that's in all of them is sugar.
Oh, wow.
That's interesting.
So here's my hypothesis, right?
I have looked at, so this comes from a couple of different sides to my sciences.
I am drawing from the most basic stuff that's taught to psychologists and to psychology students.
I'm drawing from purely conditioning, Pavlov-style conditioning theory.
And I'm drawing from the work that I've been doing on homology.
And I am drawing on the mostly what helped me to conceive this hypothesis is I'm drawing from a threat assessment threat management model, which I just don't think has been done from vaccines, for vaccines before.
So what this model is called, it's called the glycan antigen conditioning model, right?
Glycan antigen conditioning model.
And very simply, right, because my article will highlight all of the mechanisms in here, but very, very simply, what I've built is a risk assessment-based model that explains that the problem is, and I'm just getting to my notes here.
Here's the core hypothesis.
All right.
So the vaccine sugars, which are essentially glycans, like sucrose and trehalose, they paired with toxin-like antigen sequences to create a false pathlobian immune memory.
So you have a system where you train the body that sugar is danger, right?
That's as simple as it is.
You're taking an antigen, right?
And so whether it is attenuated, whether it's live, whether it's a copy, it doesn't matter.
The body knows it as an antigen and it has impact on the body, right?
It has side effects.
It's going to be read by the body as a threat.
Now, when you pair that threat with sugar, right, then essentially what you've got is the same model as a Pavlovian dog.
You are training the immune system that every time that that immune system sees sugar, alarm bells go off and create a response, a threatened state.
This explains the autoimmune disorder response.
There we go.
Right.
So I'll give you some key factors to this in terms of what this looks like.
So what happens is you have a memory created, a Pavlovian style immune memory, sugar equals danger, leading to the cytokine-driven microglial pruning and autism regression in three to five days.
So the immune system is a primitive learner.
T cells form associated memory.
All right.
So you have your conditioned stimulus, which is sugar.
You have your unconditioned, which is your toxin.
And then via epigenetic locks, which predate the brain, you have no neurons needed for this, right?
This is the equivalent of like when you test the human body for reflexes.
You have a primitive, very early learning system.
And in fact, part of my paper translates this into AI language to help people understand this from a non-biological side, that this is just a learning system.
And I know you're very, very proficient in AI.
So this model is going to make sense to you just in terms of training a system.
And when that system is mistrained, it's going to create the reaction that you weren't purposefully trying to train for.
So here's the interesting thing.
The thymus for me was the organ that was left out of the entire discussion of the pandemic.
And it was really bothering me that the thymus gland to this day is just got no attention in terms of how deeply it is involved in the immune system.
The thymus gland, like on an MRI, is not going to look like a human brain at all.
But when you cut it open, an interesting part about the thymus gland is it's a brain.
It's divided into lobes, just like our brain.
It changes over time.
It shrinks over time.
And it is essentially a very, very primitive brain and an immune and the controller of immune memory.
You've got bilateral lobes, they mimic the hemispheres, and the left lobe, that boosts your T cells, your T regs.
So part of the immune system is to dampen the response, right?
And so you have these things called T regs.
You've got the right side of the thymus gland, and that right side favors effectors, things like the cytokine.
So it has to be balanced, right?
You've got this left-right balance where you have the ability for a system that can turn on the tap and part of the system turns off the tap.
So you have your cytokines that are needed and then another system that's going to dampen the damage that those cytokines are going to do.
When you have failure, you have essentially you have a lateralized imprint leading to attacks on the left brain, which are your social circuits.
So that's why you see in autism, you have issues.
And then it's also going to, I'm not going to go into the details, but it's also, because of the bilateral part of the thymus gland, it's also going to mimic what's happening in the brain.
And so you're going to have pruning going on in the areas like Broca Center, which is the language center, which is why these kids and these babies lose verbal ability.
Hold on.
This is also, many of us have noticed, and again, we're almost out of time.
We need to wrap this up.
Many of us have noticed that adults who receive the COVID jabs, they suffered the loss of job skills, in some cases, the loss of language skills.
I mean, there was clearly actual brain damage taking place in many of them.
Is this why?
It's part of the reason why.
This particular paper, I've been very, very specific on the response, especially to the childhood vaccines.
But of course, the spike protein is a glycoprotein.
It's even worse in terms of the damage and the mechanisms with adults.
But there is similarity.
You can see some of that similarity play out functionally, right?
The loss of taste and smell, the changes in people in terms of what they can and can't eat, what's triggering them.
I had a discussion with somebody on X last night who DM'd me.
And something that I picked up that we even covered years ago in one of these interviews is that she recently started eating dairy again.
And she's now having heart issues in terms of her heart is racing.
And so I said, well, keep a food log because more than likely what's happened is because this spike protein is ubiquitous and we've all been exposed to it.
In those that are genetically at risk, sugars and proteins and fats are going to trigger in a very similar way to what I'm describing here.
They're going to essentially be red, just like your heart would rate for a race for any threat.
Food is now becoming the threat.
In this particular autism model, what is fascinating for me is that it brings in the various things that people have found to be true.
And that there's just worlds of scientific papers on this.
So my risk-based model is not just that the thymus gland is essentially being primed to look out for this threat, like a ringing bell.
It has to be specific to the individual.
So there's genetic risk.
And the biggest risk factor that is not genetic in this is coming from two main parts.
One is from C-sections, and the other is coming from early antibiotic use.
So the gut is playing a huge role in terms of, like, for example, C-sections are going to lead to high levels of zonulin.
And essentially, what people are going to call leaky gut, it's going to let it's going to let those antigens slip through, right?
And so you have this combination where you have genetic risk and then you have the various things that we do that are either out of medical necessity or become the way that people have chosen now to give birth,
but not having a vaginal birth and not having that micro microbe exchange and the development of the gut in terms of being exposed to those microorganisms very early on from that C-section.
That's one factor.
And then it's going to lead to people needing antibiotics.
Well, right, which further destroys the gut microbiome.
So, Dr. Braun, we're going to have to wrap it up there.
Let me give out your website again.
It's Dr. Tyl Braun.
That's D-R-T-A-U-B-R-A-U-N.
And where can people find this paper that you're referring to?
Are you going to publish it on your site?
Yeah, I'm going to publish it on my site.
I'm going to put it on X.
And what I'm hoping with it, you know, I'd love to do this as a peer-reviewed paper, just like I've got work that I put out in terms of spike protein persistence being produced by fungus.
For another day, we can talk about that.
In that the spike protein is actually being produced by fungus in bioform.
I'm going to put out these two papers.
I hope to get them to the point where they are peer-reviewed and published.
And then, Mike, the thing that I probably should have done at the beginning, but I think that is absolutely crucial to my success of being able to do this work, to put out these papers, is support.
So, one of the things people get frustrated on is they'll say, Well, you know, you've got revisions on this paper.
Where are they?
And I say, Well, did you know that I'm not working for a big lab somewhere or a university that I'm completely 100% self-funded?
And I rely on support, right?
I rely on support from buy me a coffee and I rely on subscriptions now.
But the thing that I want your audience to hear, because I know this will get lost on a lot of people, with my closing message, I'm trying my best to do what Jesus set out to do when he turned over the money tables.
I do not want information that can save a life or stop a child getting autism.
I do not want to have to find a way to do that in any other way than just put out the information with integrity and to my best ability.
I am avoiding subscriptions.
I am avoiding memberships.
I am avoiding paywalling.
And so, my message to people is that the people that resonate with you and that resonate with me understand the strength of community.
They understand that it is that this kind of work and the work that you do and the truth-telling, it goes beyond just putting out fact.
What we're truly doing, I think, is that we are collectively trying to help the people on the planet that are the most human.
Let me give out your website again, drtalbraun.com.
And I hope you can post your paper there so people can see it.
And also, what's your Twitter handle so people can follow you there?
Also, same thing, just Dr. Talbron, one word, and they'll find me on X.
Okay, perfect.
And I love your X channel.
I love your posts.
I encourage people to follow you there on X, check out your paper.
And I want to thank you for your time today.
Sorry to cut you off, but we have other engagements that I'm already late for.
But thank you so much.
And we'll talk again soon.
Be well.
Thank you, Mike.
All right.
Take care.
And thank all of you for watching here today.
I hope you found this interview to be very informative and continue to do your research.
Take responsibility for your own health because nobody else has your best interests at heart, and certainly not the drug companies, not the government, not any government or corporation.
Only you and the people like Dr. Braun and myself and others in the health freedom movement that believe in health freedom and believe in humanity.
So thank you for watching today.
I'm MikeAdams of Brighteon.com.
Take care.
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