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Dec. 19, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
02:17:46
Andy Schectman & Michelle Makori: Gold and Silver Surge as AI Drives a Global Reset
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You know, this is what happens when manipulations end.
They always end badly.
And we are being beaten, have been for the last several years.
And I've been screaming about this.
We've been beaten at our own game because they realize what we're doing.
They being the global south.
And now someone got to President Trump and said, if we don't do this, we're dead in the water.
I think that we are in the beginning of a global monetary reset.
And what really stands out to me is how gold is quietly re-entering the system as a neutral reserve asset, not only on the governmental front, on the national front, but of course on a retail front.
Access to the dollar is not guaranteed.
It's political.
We can cut you off just like that.
If you're the global reserve currency and we don't like you, well, we can just disconnect you from everything.
Decentralize. Welcome to Decentralize TV.
I'm Mike Adams, and I'm joined by my co-host, Todd Pittner, today for a really special episode, close to the year-end episode, but a special focus on gold and silver with two very special guests today.
So, Todd, welcome to the show.
It's great to see you again.
Thank you, Mike.
Hello, everyone.
Thank you for watching.
It is the end of 2025.
And man, oh man, what a great time to be alive.
Especially if you are stacking any kind of gold or silver.
You'll learn a lot today.
But Mike, I mean, where do we begin, my friend?
Well, let me just mention technically to our audience that your video frame rate is a little bit degraded slightly.
That's not a problem on our viewers' side, in case they're wondering.
Okay.
The feed we're getting from you is slightly slow, but it's fun.
Yeah, I was going to ask if that was something going on in your system.
So that's on me.
I need to replace some wires.
It seems like it's from your side.
But anyway, it doesn't matter as long as the audience knows that's what's happening.
And the audio is coming through just fine.
Okay, good.
And you can also practice ventriloquism with your magic and you can talk without moving your lips and people will just, oh, it's just the bandwidth.
I'll do that.
You're going to bring on like a talking puppet that you have conversations with about silver.
What?
Yeah.
Silver 66.
Oh my God.
You know, have like a sock puppet.
Stack it.
Stack it.
Well, that's the perfect intro for our show today, which I think will be a lot of fun.
And for those of you who did stack any gold and silver anytime since we've started this show, you are rolling in wealth because silver has tripled since, well, maybe not since we started the show, but not long ago.
Because the show is coming.
What's coming up on three years next May, right?
It's tripled.
So silver has tripled.
Yep.
Okay.
Wow.
Well, that's a big deal.
Gold has more than doubled.
Yeah, we started talking about it at 18 bucks.
Oh, okay.
Wow.
So it's more than tripled.
So anyway, the point is that as our audience knows, we strive to give you really practical information that significantly augments your life and puts you in a better position with your health, your wealth, your assets, your technology, your privacy, all of those things combined.
And Todd, I got to say, I think we're doing a good job of delivering on our side.
What do you say?
Oh, man, I do too, Mike.
And just everything additionally that you have personally provided that is just changing things.
I mean, I'm telling you, your book creation engine is a game changer.
And we should talk about that or you should inform our guests of, you know, the books on precious metals that have already been written in your book engine.
It is mind-boggling.
And so I'm telling you, people need to become prompt engineers.
Okay.
Go ahead, Michael.
Yeah, no, I've got breaking news that you just brought up.
I just typed it in.
So, okay, not only did we build the Brightlearn.ai book creation engine that is kicking ass and creating books.
And right now, if you show my screen, it's over 5,000 books now that have been published there in, I don't know, 10 days or two weeks or whatever it's been.
And, you know, what is it, over 1,500 authors, almost 80,000 downloads.
And this is exploding.
But check this out, Todd.
So a guest that we've interviewed, Corey Andrelot, he generated this book on our engine and is now selling it on Amazon.
That's awesome.
And it's called Mark Passio's Natural Law, right?
We're familiar with Mark Passio, right?
Of course.
The secret to freedom, power, and manifestation.
Bright Learn series book two.
So here's the thing.
You know, we've talked about how AI is going to replace some jobs.
That's true.
But mostly those are jobs that suck, like customer service jobs, you know.
AI, at the same time, it's going to open up all kinds of new, you know, innovation opportunities and entrepreneurship.
This is an example of that.
So what Corey did, I talked to him yesterday, you know, he compiled all his information into this big, long prompt, like 50,000 characters or something, which is, that's a good way to do this.
And he put that into the book engine.
The engine spits out this book, which is massive.
It's like, what is it, like 700 pages or something?
Wow.
And it's based on all his information with all our research, you know, all the research of our millions of documents.
He takes that book, he puts it on Amazon, starts selling it.
He tells me about it.
So I plug it on social media.
So then it starts driving sales of his book, which opens up a whole new revenue stream.
And then he told me he's going to get us instructions that I can share with other users of how to sell your digital books on Amazon.
Oh, perfect.
Right.
So it's like a, it's a one, two, three, how-to guide to have a whole new career.
Amazing.
Can I give you another use case for your internet?
So my wife came back from a from a checkup and apparently she has high cholesterol.
And she says they want me to put me on medication.
Austatin drugs.
Yep.
So you know what I did, Mike?
I went to your book engine and I wrote, write a book on natural strategies to lowering cholesterol to avoid prescription medications.
And then I, you know, I prompted it to that I really kind of it wanted it to be a little bit of shot at big medicine and the white coats.
So I published it.
I believe it hit today, Mike.
And it is called Forget the White Coats exclamation point, natural strategies to lower cholesterol.
And I sent that to her before she just left out of the country.
And now she has that book on her phone to be able to read.
And I swear, when she reads through it, she's not going on a statin, Mike.
All right.
So that is really interesting.
I am pulling up the books that, so I see four books so far on cholesterol.
It's possible that your book hasn't made it into the search engine, but it will shortly.
But here's one in Espanol.
Colesteral la Verdad Aculta.
Wow.
So number one, that's amazing.
And what you're doing is exactly the correct use of this technology.
You can create the books that you want to read or that you want to give somebody else.
It's not just about writing a book that you want somebody else to read.
Yeah, that's right.
And what your engine has proven is that authors are no longer needed in the traditional sense, only good prompt writers.
Well, and I would even have to be a great prompt writer, frankly.
But I would say that, I mean, I still call them authors, but they're really architects of the book.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
So, you know, in the same way that you're basically the book director at this point.
Right.
Right.
You know, in the same way, like we don't have scribes copying the Bible by hand, you know.
Yeah.
Right.
That hasn't been the case since the Gutenberg Press.
Well, you don't have to type every letter of a book either.
You don't have to be a scribe.
No.
You can just, you know, explain the book that you want.
But it does so much more.
I also co-wrote a book called Exchanging Value Privately.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And that is, you know, the byline there is to escape centralized financial control, the world must be able to exchange value privately.
And I co-wrote it with an author who is just an amazing mind.
And he was very suspicious of this suspect that it wouldn't be what I was purporting it to be.
And oh my goodness, when it was published, he just could not believe it because it ingested content from all of his articles that he's ever written on private crypto.
People should go read it, man.
Yeah, I can't wait to read it myself.
But I did see all of the outline and the chapters, and it is powerful.
It is going to be a game changer, I believe, for private crypto.
Okay, so people can go to brightlearn.ai and they can use the search engine.
Although I may have to fix something on the search because I didn't see this coming up, but I'll fix that tonight.
It's called Exchanging Value Privately, The Rise of Private Cryptocurrency.
And look, the audio file is done.
Oh, it already is?
E-Rock.
Yeah.
I'm listening to that right after we get off this show.
I'm going to listen.
Very cool.
Explain what that is, what the audio is.
Well, currently, it's a 15-minute podcast starring two AI people, a man and a woman, who talk about the book in their podcast.
It's amazing.
I mean, it's such a wonderful summary of a book.
I can't wait.
It's going to be perfect.
I think so too.
And, you know, I think this book would be a great candidate to do like the full-length audio book once I activate that feature.
Right.
And you know what?
And you suggested, because like I said, the gentleman that I co-wrote this with, not everything in there is as he would want it.
And so you had recommended that we get a PDF editor and we're able to take it.
We can edit the PDF.
And then you can just, tell me if I'm wrong, but in my mind, you can copy and paste the entire book as it was edited and then just ingest that into the engine and say, I want it written exactly like this.
Is that how that works?
No, no, it doesn't actually, that would just be a new prompt to a new book, but it would still, the engine would still do additional research and bring in new things on that.
If you want it to say exactly what you want, the best thing is to just download it, edit the PDF, and then do whatever you want with that PDF.
Okay.
But that edited version won't exist on the Brightlearn website.
However, there's something really interesting, which is that as we are adding more tens of thousands of books to our indexed search database, you know, so we have 10,000 books that are currently sourced when your book is being written by the engine, and plus, you know, hundreds of millions of pages of other things from articles and what have you, transcripts.
But we're adding probably early 2026, we're adding a quarter of a million additional books into the engine.
Wow.
So we will be able to rewrite the book.
Actually, it's just one button on my screen.
I can just say like, boom, redo all the whole writing with all the new research.
Okay.
It's amazing.
Right.
So the book can actually be upgraded.
Like there's a new version of the book that has all this new research.
Right, right.
Because I think I still want it to be on there instead of us just editing it and do what we want because it's just so beautifully simple to be able to send somebody a link to it.
So I just think it would be, you know, the exchanging value prop privately extended version.
Well, that's exactly right.
And if you put in a long prompt like that, you can have a lot of control over it.
So for the audience, if you want to create a book, you can do what we did last time.
You can do one word.
Yes.
And it'll do a book off one word, but that it may or may not reflect exactly what you want to say about that subject.
Well, the one word only works, Mike, when you're wearing a mullet.
Yeah, that's right.
You have to have the mullet powers at play.
Yeah.
But like what Corey did is he put in a very detailed prompt and then he got the book that he wanted.
That's great.
That's great.
Yeah.
So anyway, look, the overall theme here of our show today is not even really about AI per se.
It's about gold and silver.
That's right.
But AI is intertwined in that.
And let me explain one reason why.
And we're going to bring in our guests here pretty soon, folks.
So just stay tuned and you're going to love them.
They're amazing.
But one of the things that we have for this AI engine, it creates the book art for you.
And the book art, we had to use, we had to connect six different art engines via our API in order to get it to create book art.
And one of those art engines is a Google engine, even though I don't like Google as a company, but their Gemini reasoning graphics model is quite good.
Here's the thing, Todd.
Google has put in very aggressive rate limiting to where they only allow us to generate a couple hundred images a day.
And then we have to go to other engines.
And that's why we have six engines connected.
I see.
And the reason that Google is aggressively rate limiting everybody, it's not just us, it's everybody, is because Google doesn't have enough compute to handle the demand for their AI.
Wow.
What does that tell you?
Yeah, buy silver.
Yeah, it tells you to buy silver.
Exactly.
Because the only way that Google or anybody, Microsoft or OpenAI, the only way they can actually keep up with demand, and by the way, it tells you this is AI is not a demand bubble.
It might be a stock price bubble, but the demand is way exceeding the supply.
It really is.
Google can't keep up with the demand.
Neither can OpenAI.
So they have to rate limit everybody because they don't have the data centers and they don't have the power to power the data centers, which is why everybody needs solar because it's the only power source that's fast to install.
That makes sense, right?
Yeah, industrial necessity, Mike.
Yeah.
And even here we are just trying to use Google or other engines.
We can't get what we want.
We can't.
And I think people are going to really enjoy the guests because we're going to talk about all of this and we're going to provide you a different calculus to consider versus just being a precious metals speculator.
We're going to deliver some hard facts that I think are going to be very persuasive to the fact that, you know, it's not even about the price, folks.
You know, this is about creating wealth.
And yeah, absolutely.
And surviving the global currency reset.
Yeah.
Surviving nicely, too.
That's a really good point.
You know, I love the fact like you talk to a lot of our viewers of this show.
I get some feedback, but not nearly as much as you.
Can you tell us the kind of feedback that you're getting about this show?
Oh my gosh, Mike.
Well, first of all, there's someone who's very famous who is who has acquired a UNA, who everybody would know.
And he tells me that he blows right through the primary, you know, video that the beginning to the after party.
He says, he said, don't worry, I go back, but I got to get my after party at the end.
Oh, okay.
So he will watch this part too.
So we'll watch this part.
We have to be mindful.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's truly the case or not, but I've had many, many people say that they love the after parties and they love the practical advice that we give, the amazing diversity of guests and what we discuss on the show.
And frankly, the biggest thing, Mike, is they just love how you and I deal with people in a joyful way.
And, you know, we that's because there's episodes we haven't aired that they have not seen.
That's true.
That is true.
No, I mean, look, we try to have fun with everything that we do, right?
And I don't know how anybody can be bored in this world, but we've had a few instances of some shows that we couldn't air.
It had nothing to do with robots or technical glitches.
It was just nope.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nope.
There's a couple of nopes.
Say more, but it's just something you kind of have to be on this show, Mike.
You have to at least be able to fog a mirror.
You know, well, yeah.
And to our audience, I want to say that, you know, Todd and I exercise a lot of discernment here about who we bring on.
Oh, yeah.
Because number one, we don't want to bring on anybody pushing any kind of scams or just some nonsense.
We don't bring on people that waste your time.
You know, number one, we want a high signal to noise ratio, right?
And if somebody we don't bring on people who are inauthentic, so if they treat us like dirt off camera, but then on camera, they're like, I'm the nicest person ever.
Like, nope.
That doesn't fly.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
So look, everybody, we're coming up on three years of episodes, and we sincerely do hope that you're enjoying the show.
And we can't wait to deliver a whole new set of them in 2026.
And the other thing is, Mike, I think you've heard from people we've interviewed a lot about the fact that they really look forward to coming back on.
And I think because we treat everybody with, you know, fun and respect.
And we're not out here to throw any gotcha questions.
I mean, first of all, they're not going to be on the show if we don't think that the content would be conducive to helping people decentralize their lives in some way, shape, or correct.
And I think in the first year, we had some challenges booking guests because it was a new show.
Now we don't have that problem at all.
Now it's more like, well, can we schedule you for February or March or whatever?
Right.
But there are certain kinds of guests, such as our guest today, that we will bring on in urgent situations based on what's happening in the world.
Absolutely.
I might as well mention that's going to be Andy Sheckman and Michelle McCory, who together are part of Miles Franklin and Miles Franklin Media.
And they're just extraordinary individuals.
They have a vast amount of knowledge.
And we're going to go through the key drivers of gold and silver demand on the show today.
And this is not, you know, this is not a paid gig.
We don't have any financial relationship with Miles Franklin or Andy Sheckman.
You're just going to get great information.
And then Todd and I will ask questions.
Todd, do you think you're going to be able to get to like a few of your questions today?
Because you always have way more questions than we can get to.
I do.
I presume I'll leave a few questions on the table as always.
But that's okay.
That's okay.
You know what, Mike?
Andy Sheckman, probably one of the easiest people to interview because you just give him a little bit and he can go on for a long time and never repeat anything but deliver just pure substance.
So I love interviewing Andy and it is going to be a true pleasure to interview Michelle McCorry as well.
And what's great about these two is they do, I think for every hour of screen time, they must do six to 10 hours of research.
Right.
I'm just guessing.
But I mean, they bring such knowledge to the show that you can tell that they both just really absorb a lot of information.
So should we just jump to the interview?
Yeah, let's do, Mike.
All right, let's do that.
We did promise a good signal-to-noise ratio, so we should shut the hell up and bring on the guests.
Okay.
Let's raise the bar.
Let's raise the bar.
Okay, let's do it.
Here we go.
All right.
All right.
So, Todd, we're going to be joined by our special guest now, the incredible analyst of Andy Sheckman, as well as Michelle McCorry, who's also an incredibly well-informed and sharp analyst and interviewer.
They're both with Miles Franklin Media on YouTube.
And the website, of course, is milesfranklin.com.
And so, Andy and Michelle, it's a great honor to have you joining us today.
Welcome to the show.
Great to be here, Mike.
Thanks for having us.
Good to see you too, Todd.
Great seeing you guys.
You know, I think people may want to tune out about now because there's not really much happening in the precious metals market.
So, yeah, exactly.
Nothing interesting going on with silver pricing.
So, anyway, let me just give a quick intro.
So, Andy Sheckman, of course, has been right about everything.
Andy, you and I started talking years ago about the BRICS system, and you were the very first person who was anticipating the construction of the BRICS settlement infrastructure, which continues to accelerate to this day, largely due to weaponization of dollar hegemony, et cetera.
And then Michelle McCorry joined with you not that long ago.
And Michelle, I think a lot of our viewers are fans of yours, even before you joined Miles Franklin.
And now you have a huge number of fans that appreciate your analysis and your courage to ask tough questions to your guests when they're trying to bullshit you.
You don't take any of that.
You push back hard.
So with that said, can I ask each of you to introduce yourselves, Andy and Michelle?
Well, I appreciate that, Mike.
We're very lucky to have Michelle first and foremost.
And I'll let her tell you all about her background.
But as you know, Mike, I've been on your show a few times.
This will be 36 years that we've been in business this February as a company.
And all along, the way that I have looked at precious metals is as wealth, not as an investment.
And I think it's much easier to see what's happening in the world with the accumulation of wealth that is not simultaneously someone else's liability.
And things are coming full circle, not only in the way the world looks at it, but also I think the way that the United States is looking at gold and silver.
I've always looked at it as wealth, not as something to invest to become wealthy, but because it has outlived in the form of wealth, you know, two world wars, German hyperinflation, the Great Depression, every pandemic, everything.
And here we are, what, 6,000 years after it was it and silver were mentioned cumulatively over 700 times in the Bible.
And here we have the most well-informed traders on the planet, let alone the most well-funded.
But the most well-informed is the important thing, the central banks that have been buying it for six or seven years.
And now the most well-informed and well-financed traders, arguably in the world, those on Wall Street, seem to have a very, very, very keen interest in it as well with the massive amount of delivery.
So absolutely.
I guess I'm just someone who tries and tries to put myself in the position of the rest of the world.
And gold has always fit that narrative for me as an asset that will always be there when you need it and just a better way to save money.
Well, it's clearly performing its role exactly as it's supposed to.
It's preserving assets at a time when dollar or the devaluation of the dollar continues to accelerate, despite what we're told from the administration that there's no inflation.
But Michelle, tell our audience about you because it's the first time you've joined us today.
We're honored to have you on.
Love to hear more.
Well, thank you very much to both of you for having us on.
I appreciate it.
By way of background, I am a broadcast journalist.
I've been covering global news, finance, macroeconomics for well over two decades now over three continents.
I've anchored and reported for Bloomberg, CNN Money, SABC, CGTN, I-24, Kitco.
I've also led news teams as editor-in-chief.
And, you know, one of the things that I've really valued in my career has been the opportunity to speak with and interview so many interesting people, CEOs, heads of state, political leaders, policymakers.
Hearing how they think both on and off camera has really given me a front row seat and a unique perspective as to how decisions get made and how narratives evolve.
And people often ask me, who has been your most interesting interview?
And for me, it's the people that I learn the most from.
And really, that was truly Andy Shechman.
And I'm not, and he knows I'm not just saying this because for me, it's when I learn something new and when my eyes are opened to something that I had no idea was going on.
And that was exactly the case when I first interviewed Andy.
And he set out his thesis of how we're entering the sparification of the global monetary system, how gold was working its way back into the financial system as a neutral reserve asset.
And I'm sure we're going to get into this at length during this conversation.
And how we were seeing this de-dollarization trend.
And really, he was the first person that sort of planted that seed, which now, for us, following the story, seems a bit obvious.
But at the time, it wasn't a conversation that I had before.
Right.
And, you know, and you know, to that end, I now am the head of Miles Franklin Media, which I started as part of the initiative from the parent company, Miles Franklin Precious Metals, which, of course, Andy is the founder and CEO of.
And I also host the real story with me, Michelle McCorry.
And we're building an independent news and analysis platform.
We want to go deeper, like we like to say, beyond the headlines, beneath the surface, behind the curtain to show people what is really happening with money, markets, power, and global events.
And yeah, you know, I do ask the tough questions.
So I'm not usually on the receiving end of questions, Mike, but I'm making an exception for today.
No, we appreciate it.
I realize you're making an exception, and we are grateful for that.
And the fact that you and Andy are such sharp people yourselves, I think you respect others who bring knowledge to the table.
And also, I want to say to our audience that, and Andy knows this, he's confirmed this many times, that my company, we do not have a financial relationship with Miles Franklin Media or anything.
This is not a paid appearance.
I advocate for you.
And let me give out your YouTube channel here again, Miles Franklin Media on YouTube.
And I've got it up on my screen.
If my producers can show that.
Here it is, Miles Franklin Media.
You should subscribe to this channel if you watch on YouTube.
You should follow this channel.
And then you can also go to milesfranklin.com.
But again, this is not an affiliate plug.
We don't have a financial relationship.
I respect the knowledge of both of you.
And so does Todd.
Todd's got a bunch of questions he's waiting to ask.
I know, but I respect your knowledge.
So, Michelle, what you bring to the table is, I think it mirrors what we do as well.
We want to ask tough questions.
We want to have an uncensored conversation that bypasses BS.
Does that resonate with both of you?
Absolutely.
Sure does.
Well, Andy, I'm going to subject you both then to Todd's grilling.
How about that?
No, Todd, Todd's very nice.
He's polite.
He's polite.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been shining up my softballs for this.
No, no, man, what a great time to be alive.
I was thinking, Mike, when I was prepping that you and I began talking about silver a couple of years ago, pretty hard, and it was priced.
And I remembered it was 18 bucks.
That's right.
It is over $65.
Now, during the interview, I presume that we're going to get into and explore the why world demand for silver specifically is exploding and why we're likely nowhere near the top.
But Andy, Andy, what do you say to people who believe prices have already risen too far and that they've missed out?
And I believe the term is fear of buying at the top, Andy Sheckman.
Yeah, well, that's a fair question.
It is at an all-time high.
But the real question, and I wouldn't say this if I didn't believe it.
That's not how I'm wired.
I think that this is something that hasn't been allowed to achieve true price discovery forever.
It has been held down in my mind largely by about eight banks, very large banks, five in the United States, three throughout Europe and/or Canada, that have been holding it down largely because of the military-industrial complex's desire to make high-tech weaponry and sell them to countries around the world and NATO.
And if silver were allowed to rise to a level of price that they don't care about, right?
They don't care about the price.
They don't care about the price because it's inelastic.
If you need a few hundred ounces for a cruise missile that's $20 million or $10 million, what do you care?
You don't.
And so they've been holding it down in concert with one another for a very long time, metal going back and forth between the banks to make it look like there's activity.
But in essence, they're just selling back and forth to each other for a very long time, holding down the paper price with levered futures contracts so they can make high-tech weapons.
Now, this worked for a long time, and the West has been the ruler of the roost for a long time in terms of military prowess.
It's allowed us to, in all the Western world, to, in essence, you can say, make the rules globally.
And as a result, they had to keep silver cheap.
They had to keep it cheap because they need it to build this infrastructure.
So, what you have now and have for the last few years are countries that, way back when, were borderline third world in India and China and Russia and countries that had no business challenging the Western hegemony.
Add Saudi Arabia to that list.
You mentioned the BRICS.
They are, whether or not they fully accepted their invitation to the BRICS, they are the fifth full member in the Enbridge technology, which allows the movement of money to sidestep SWIFT and are key, central to that type of, I think, pattern where we're seeing countries move away from the West.
But in any case, they have kept the price down for a very long time.
And these countries are now sophisticated, they're coordinated, they're motivated, and they're standing for delivery.
And they have been for quite some time.
And so now you have something.
Hang on, real quick.
One, let me just finish this up because it's very important.
But you've never had something in terms of policy in this country.
You never had any country say we're going to go out and buy it.
You have Russia saying we're going to go out and buy it.
You have the United States, who has just came out and said that silver is a critical mineral.
They put a floor underneath it.
The European Union did that in 2023.
China is now retaliating with currency, or excuse me, with export restrictions that go into effect January 1st.
They refine between 60% and 70% of the world's silver.
A lot of it would come to them in the form of dore that they would refine and send back out to the Western markets.
You have effectively shut off 70% of the world's refining or finished product if that is the case.
And now there's rumors in the Economic Times that JP Morgan has flipped and gone from the largest short to now net long by closing a 200 million ounce short position, buying 21 million ounces of physical over the last six weeks, and now being net long.
In fact, it goes as far to say that the five Western banks in the United States, anyway, the main banks in the U.S. are almost, if not entirely, net long.
And so you have the banks in Europe holding the bag.
And I don't know if I talked with you about this before, but Tom Luongo's thesis that Trump is very angry with the European aristocrats for, in his opinion, this is a rumor, not mine, Tom's election interference in 2020 and the color revolution.
And if that is the case, well, they told the whole world, all the banks that they were in concert with over there, hey, you got to send back the metal because when you go short in New York, which drives down the price, the banks would take the corresponding long position in London, which doesn't affect the price.
Hey, guys, send me back the metals.
Tariffs, we got to cover.
Don't worry, it'll go back.
And I was screaming through last year.
No, it's not tariffs.
It's reshoring.
All this metal comes back and the LBMA is in big trouble.
Well, and they have.
They have 2 billion ounces of paper contracts with 140 million ounce float.
And if this is true and those banks over there are holding the bag, yeah, you could see the price explode to levels that people wouldn't even believe as the short squeeze really ratchets up with one of those big banks.
You've hit upon some really critical key points here.
And I want to pivot to Michelle to answer the question I'm going to pose here based on what you just said, Andy, which is, so number one, the same banks that were very aggressively shorting paper silver for price controls, we believe, they are now long physical silver.
JP Morgan, long, many millions of ounces of physical silver, physical possession.
What does that tell you?
JP Morgan doesn't trust the paper silver market, huh?
How's that for a bumper sticker, right?
And then, so Michelle, what do you think are the real industrial drivers now behind silver demand that are going to feed into this price increase as JP Morgan allows silver to rise organically?
Well, you know, I think we need to keep in mind here that even with this spectacular gain of more than 100%, silver is still trading at levels that don't really accurately reflect its full industrial, strategic, or monetary significance.
Just to put this in perspective, in real terms, it is still well below the inflation-adjusted high that it reached in 1980.
And, you know, silver has a dual identity because it is a monetary metal.
It has been for 5,000 years.
As Andy mentioned, it's mentioned in the Bible.
In fact, the word for money in the Bible is silver.
So it has a monetary function trusted across civilizations for thousands of years.
But it is also now one of the most essential industrial metals on earth.
It's one of the most conductive metals known.
You know, if you think about it, without it, solar power collapses, electric vehicles stall, semiconductor manufacturing fails, medical imaging, diagnostics breakdown.
You don't have modern communications.
And the world is running through the available silver stockpiles at a speed that many would say is just mathematically unsustainable.
Obviously, solar demand, to answer your question, is one of the largest drivers.
About 10 years ago, photovoltaics barely registered, but solar is consuming close to 20% of the annual global solar supply now.
That's obviously a big demand.
Electric vehicles require significantly more silver per unit than combustion engines.
Semiconducting manufacturing, I mean, that's a big deal here when we look at AI.
Semiconductor manufacturing really relies on silver quite significantly.
And new battery technology uses silver.
Battery technology, medical devices, aerospace systems, 5G networks, cost census, defense electronics.
And the defense thing is also a very, very big issue here.
And that's why we saw silver being put on the critical minerals list because there is a national security angle here.
And precision guided munitions, satellite communications, radar systems, drone technologies, they all rely on silver.
Now, the exact numbers are classified, but I believe the Silver Institute doesn't actually publish a specific military demand category.
And that in itself tells you something.
And that's one of the reasons why people believe that the price has been suppressed all this time because it's so critical to the defense sector.
And I don't have the exact numbers, but I think it's, I'm sure Andy has them about how much silver goes into every kind of missile that's needed.
And as we're seeing, unfortunately, more kinetic war on the horizon, I think the demand coming from the military-industrial complex for silver is only going to continue to accelerate.
So, you know, you've got this convergence of it, as I say, being a monetary metal as well as an industrial metal.
And it's still not even at the inflation-adjusted price that it was at 1980.
Well, and critically, you mentioned 1980, which invokes the history of the Hunt brothers, and that was an attempt to corner the silver market monetarily for profit.
And what we're seeing today does not resemble that at all.
It's not sort of, you know, fictitious.
It's real.
It's real core industrial demand that and all the examples that you just gave, Michelle, that are driving all this.
And I know Todd has done a lot of research on this as well.
So, Todd, the next question is yours in that sector, if you want to take it.
Thank you.
I'm going to go to my favorite book to research, which is Tip and Mitten.
And I like pictures, guys.
So I just want to show this is exactly what you were just speaking about in picture form.
This is from 2016, okay, to the end of 2024.
But look at the trend.
Okay.
That is, let's see.
That tell us the axes on that.
I can't quite read it.
Yeah.
Silver supply versus demand growth.
So yeah, look at that.
That is astonishing.
Can you see that?
Is that coming through?
Yeah.
So is that demand?
It's the demand-supply ratio.
Is that what that's showing?
Yeah.
So, I mean, look at that.
That's now.
Look at this.
Comex, paper, silver versus physical availability in a picture.
Yeah, simple chart right there.
It's a binary.
Yeah.
That's great.
Andy, you know, silver is undergoing a structural transformation, as Michelle articulated so nicely, from a monetary metal into a strategic industrial resource.
And I want to just list four facts.
One, AI and energy infrastructure are silver intensive.
Two, China and BRICS nations are stockpiling.
Three, paper silver vastly exceeds physical availability, as we just saw.
And four, COMEX delivery credibility is increasingly questioned.
So my question to you, Andy, is the silver market approaching the point where price suppression mechanisms may actually just fail under physical demand, leading to the repricing phase driven by industrial necessity rather than market speculation.
Yeah, very much so.
I believe it is.
And it's a race like the Hunt Brothers were two brothers trying To capitalize on leverage, where they realize, similar today, where there were more contracts issued than bars in the vault, and the COMEX changed the rules on them.
Now you're dealing with sovereign powers that are racing to get it for national security.
That's a whole different thing.
And to your point, Todd, so you know, when you see the amount of deliveries, like for example, just in the first, I don't know, seven or eight days of the December contract, and which went off the board the day after Thanksgiving.
And just so happens that the CME group and their servers that, which is the COMEX, that run about a thousand commodities traded on the exchange in the, you know, at 11 o'clock at night when there's so much volume on Thanksgiving night, the servers overheated and they were down for 11 hours.
Allegedly.
So when they open back up, over the first five or six or seven days, over 59 million ounces have stood for delivery.
And this is a trend that we've seen continuously over the last 13 months and continuing.
And first of all, my question is: who's got that kind of money?
JP Morgan, as I mentioned, all the stuff that they did, and a lot of metal has actually left the Colmex somewhere in the neighborhood of 16.6 million ounces left the Comex recently too.
And so when this happens, the exchange starts to freak out and the exchange starts to raise margins.
And it's not to control price, it's to control the exodus of metal leaving the building.
And so they raise margins.
Now, this is the interesting point to your question.
Normally, that would break its neck.
The margin gets raised to a level whereby the short, the small trader who is using leverage on margin gets squeezed because the amount they have to have to back those contracts goes up exponentially.
And if they don't post the money, their positions get liquidated and it flushes out the weak hands.
Now, imagine there's a neighborhood not too far from me, another community down the road where Mark Wahlberg lives and Stevie Cohen, the owner of the New York Mets and Alicia Keys.
And you think that neighborhood cares if mortgage rates go up?
No, they don't because they're paying cash.
Now, here's what's interesting.
This would have broke the Comex's neck in years past.
Literally, it would have fallen by 10, 15 bucks, whatever, and it would just be an afterthought.
And everyone would have laughed.
See, we told you it was a sucker's game.
It's too late.
But it didn't.
In fact, it only came down a little bit.
And then yesterday went way up and down a little bit today, 1% or whatever means nothing.
But the point is that little drop after they raised margins flushed out the weak hands and the hands that were using too much leverage, but then it went right back up.
Why?
Because the buyers are sovereign nations.
They are governments.
They are central banks.
They are auto manufacturers.
They are Tesla.
They are Samsung, who just went to Mexico and struck a deal with the mine out there for two years worth of all of their silver concentrate.
They have the right to buy.
They're going directly, disintermediating the marketplace and going directly to the miners around the world.
But the buyers on Comex right now are the big, big money.
And for them, that flush out represented a subsidy.
Thank you very much.
We'll buy some more because we don't go on margin.
And I think that's one of the things that, yes, it is transitioning to that way.
As I often like to say, little by little, and then all at once.
And we're still going little by little, but it's speeding up and you can see it and you can feel it.
JP Morgan, not only did they supposedly, according to the Economic Times article, flip, but they also did something I'd never heard of before.
So 16.6 million ounces leaves the registered category, left the building, never coming back.
Was that Elon Musk?
Was that Samsung?
Was it the Treasury?
Who was it?
Don't know.
But they also took about 169 million ounces and moved it to what is called non-deliverable.
Now, they moved to a non-deliverable vault.
To me, that's the same thing, but it's not.
And so there's registered and there's eligible, right?
Registered is those are the bars that are backing the contracts.
And there's eligible.
We have nine Brinks facilities.
One of them is in New York.
That vault is the only Colmex vault that we have an account in.
And I have clients with thousand ounce bars there.
They are eligible category.
They are not for sale.
They're not backing the contracts.
If they wanted to move them and registered, they could.
So that's always the two lanes that I was aware of.
Well, they moved it into a non-deliverable vault, which would in essence, in this analogy, moving it from Brinx JFK, which is Colmex, to Brinks Salt Lake City, which ain't Colmex.
And the only way that they can get back into the system is to be re-registered, which is a long, drawn-out process.
In essence, they took another 169 million ounces and moved it out of the delivery chain.
So you are seeing a race to secure stuff and by the big money that doesn't care about price or about margins.
And if you mess up and try and smash the price down again, you only play right into their hands.
So Andy, as always, great explanation.
By the way, your AI camera is interpreting your hand signals as Zoom commands while you're talking, which is kind of cool.
That kind of leads me to my next question for Michelle, which is about the popularity of this topic.
Let me set this up.
I'm an AI developer and I built an engine, a book creation engine, launched it about 10 days ago at brightlearn.ai.
It's all the books are free.
There are 5,000 books that have been published there in 10 days.
Yeah, it's went over 5,000 while we were talking.
But here's the thing.
Here's why this is a question to you.
One of the most popular topics is silver.
So people are creating books there.
Silver sovereignty, silver linings, silver strength.
That's actually weight training for elderly.
Silver, the eternal metal, silver, an ancient modern miracle, the silver covenant, heavy fortunes, clash of the tide.
I mean, it goes on and on and on.
I mean, this is a long list of silver books.
And, you know, Michelle, five or 10 years ago, we wouldn't have seen this kind of pop culture interest in silver like we do now.
Are you noticing the same thing?
And what do you think is driving this widespread acceptance of the expansion of the Overton window to talk about gold and silver?
Well, I'll put silver in one category for now, and then I'll get into gold because I think that's actually being driven by a slightly different conversation here.
But it's impressive that this AI engine of yours.
So I'm just going to ask you a quick question.
So you use it and it can write the books for you, practically?
Correct.
You put in a prompt and it creates a book in minutes with all the research and the cover art and a PDF that's downloadable and all the books are free.
Wow.
That's fascinating.
And how factually accurate is it?
Because I have noticed in my experience with the likes of Grok and ChatGPT that they're not always that factually accurate.
We've eliminated all hallucinations because we've built over two years hundreds of millions of actual documents that are indexed and researched for the book writing AI agents.
So they only actually cite real documents that exist in our database.
All right.
Fascinating.
I can't help but default to my question.
Please, yeah.
Go ahead.
But yeah, I mean, I think, you know, to your point, we have silver as one of the top performing assets this year.
So obviously it's starting to gain attention.
When you have Fox business and CNBC talking about silver, it's no longer a story that they can ignore when it's up over, you know, 100% here to date, more than that right now.
And people always like to see where they can, certainly on a retail level, where they can make money.
But I think what's also interesting, Andy mentioned something that I kind of want to expand on, if I may.
And he said that a lot of these people are going to directly to the mines.
And I'm also on the board of a gold and silver copper mining company, McEwen.
And, you know, it's very important to mention that roughly 70% of silver production today is, in fact, a byproduct of mining for other metals like lead and zinc, copper, and gold.
So that means that higher silver prices don't actually necessarily trigger higher silver production.
And new silver mines take seven to 10 years to bring online.
So you can't just turn on the tap.
You can't just say we want more silver.
Exploration spending has been minimal for a decade.
People have not been interested in miners.
People have not been interested in mining.
So it's not like there's this tremendous supply relief on the horizon here.
So that's also a point to keep in mind that as we're seeing this growing demand, there isn't the supply that can come out from the Earth's surface.
In fact, most of the high-grade silver deposits that are near the Earth's surface have already been mined.
So those are gone.
So, you know, you do have a major supply crunch coming as this demand is accelerating.
As for why people, you know, are interested in it, as I said, I think when an asset starts to perform so dramatically, people want to see how they can profit from that.
But also, people are noticing lack of purchasing power.
You know, this all kind of links back to debasement and devaluation of fiat currencies.
And people are seeing that their dollar is not going as far as it used to.
I mean, yes, sure, inflation coming in a bit cooler today at 2.7%.
But if you look at inflation collectively, if you look at it, if you add it up from 2020, and assuming you go by those numbers, we're up about like almost 30%.
And that's the official government data, which we all know is not exactly accurately reflecting what we're seeing.
So I think people are sort of naturally gravitating towards hard assets like silver and like gold as they're starting to understand that sadly the dollar and fiat currencies are being debased and devalued and you want those hard assets.
It's becoming a common experience, especially when people shop for food.
And by the way, before we go to Todd for the next question, I will take the transcript of this interview and I will feed it into our book engine and I will create a book called Silver Supply Crunch 2026 and I'll send you both that book and it'll be based on this.
How's that sound?
Well, I hope we're all being 100% factually accurate.
Yes, I believe we are.
But there's so much happening.
I mean, this is actually part of the conversation because, you know, AI tech is driving demand for the data centers, which is part of this industrial demand.
So, Todd, I don't know where you want to take it next.
We've got so many questions.
Go ahead.
I do.
But from what you just said, I'm going to take it to another place as well.
But I just want to let everyone know that this is kind of an infomercial for Miles Franklin.
So forgive me on this.
But as Andy, you know, before we launched, is I really, really want to acquire a good amount of silver.
And I ask questions about it, but I want to let everybody know why.
And it was all because of the prep for this interview.
And what I realized was these demand drivers that are out there are why silver is exploding.
So, Mike, since you are going to reference this interview, I'm just going to take a couple of minutes to be able to summarize what I shared with my wife to get her permission to go acquire a bunch of precious metals from you.
Why silver demand is exploding?
Three reasons.
One, supply constraints, demand drivers, and market stress signals.
I want to talk about supply constraints.
Flat global mine supply, declining ore grades, silver mined mostly as a byproduct, as Michelle just shared, shrinking above-ground inventories, and limited recycling efficiency.
That's one.
Now, the demand drivers, my goodness gracious, AI data centers and servers, solar panels, electric vehicles and charging networks, power grids and transformers, defense and aerospace electronics.
And the last bucket, market stress signals, COMEX paper leverage versus physical supply, which we talked about, rising delivery premiums, cash settlement pressure, China and bricks stockpiling, and industrial front running of supply.
So bottom line is, my take out of it all is silver is not running out overnight, but the system that prices it is as abundant or that prices it as abundant is increasingly disconnected from physical reality.
Would you all agree with that summary?
Absolutely.
And Andy, I know you're going to ask this question, but let me just add one more thing real quickly to it.
The data centers in the United States are lacking power.
We don't have the aggregate annual terawatt hours that China has.
We're not even close.
And the build out of nuclear power takes 15 to 20 years.
The build out of gas turbine power is five to eight years wait time, depending on the size.
And we have sanctions against Russia, which makes gas turbines, so you can't export those out of Russia and bring them to the U.S. Otherwise, we could have lots of power for the data centers.
So solar is the source of power for data centers that can be scaled up rapidly.
And that requires silver.
So right there, Andy, you know, is another major driver is the AI race to superintelligence.
What do you say?
There's a massive amount of silver in those solar panel farms that run the mega AI data centers.
And I forgot the amount.
It's in the metric tons.
It's a huge, huge amount of silver.
There's only a little bit of silver in each server.
Of course, that adds up.
It is the solar panel farms that power them that has the majority of all the silver.
That's then locked up for I don't know how many years those panels go for.
But yeah, that's exactly what it is.
It's a depleting asset.
As Michelle mentioned, it's found near the surface, like your skin is epidermis.
It's found in a form called epithermal.
And so to her point as well, we have seen a continued massive increase in an asset that has plurality in demand from monetary to industrial to military to all of the other things we've talked about.
And it's depleting in nature.
And this is obviously why we have classified it critical, but to the point where every single year for the last now six years, we're between 200 and 300 million ounces shortfall between supply and demand.
And it was said in this interview, and I'm glad it was that the military application in the Silver Institute's numbers, they're not there.
In the early 40s, we were using between 1 and 200 million ounces of silver a year for military manufacturing.
What about now when the componentry is far more specific?
Modernized.
Yes, to those kinds of digital applications, electric electronics, let alone all the soldering.
But this is happening.
And I think the thing of it is, is that this is what happens when manipulations end.
They always end badly.
And we are being beaten, have been for the last several years.
And I've been screaming about this.
We have been beaten at our own game because they realize what we're doing, they being the global south.
And now someone got to President Trump and said, if we don't do this, we're dead in the water.
And so I think it was all a big ruse about the tariffs in metals and to bring back to cover positions because the tariff threat of bringing it back, which was just the normal back and forth flow, would have been a huge problem for the bank.
So send it back.
No, it's not tariffs.
It's reshoring.
They understand that if we don't get this in order very, very quickly, I think we're in very, very big trouble.
And Trump is moving on that by designating critical resources and the tariffs, et cetera.
And are you done with that thought there, Andy?
Yeah, no, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay, because let me segue to Michelle on this question, but picking up from where you left off, there's a saying in America, and I apologize for the profanity, but there's a saying: money talks, bullshit walks.
And I would like to upgrade that saying without the profanity to say commodities talk, financialization walks or currency walks.
It's like currency doesn't matter because, Michelle, you can't print copper.
You can't print nickel.
You can't print cobalt or silver or anything.
It's on the table of freaking elements.
And as a result, the real core driver and the real scarcity in the world are things that no government can print.
And that's commodities.
What say you?
I say you're absolutely correct.
And, you know, I think we're actually at the very early stages of people being giving up on fiat currencies, fiat meaning by decree, paper promises, which is our current financial system, and looking towards hard assets.
I think that we are in the beginning of a global monetary reset.
And what really stands out to me is how gold is quietly re-entering the system as a neutral reserve asset, not only on the governmental front, on the national front, but of course on a retail front.
But I'll focus on the bigger picture on governments.
You know, a real inflection point, in my view, was the aggressive weaponization of the US dollar, particularly when the Biden administration moved to cut Russia off from the SWIFT system after the invasion of Ukraine.
Now, that moment sent a very clear message to the rest of the world, and that is that access to the dollar is not guaranteed.
It's political.
We can cut you off just like that.
If you're the global reserve currency and we don't like you, well, we can just disconnect you from everything.
And since then, you can really see the global monetary system starting to split.
On the one side, you do have the countries that are still operating within the dollar-based system, but on the other side, you do have countries looking to reduce their exposure to the U.S. to de-dollarize, to actively trade in their own currencies.
And, you know, it doesn't help that the United States is sitting on $38 trillion of debt, right?
we're just servicing that debt, is equal to the annual defense budget.
So when we are being...
Sorry to interrupt, but also EuroClear, right?
So...
So Europe now is scheming to steal 200 billion plus from Russia via Euro clear.
So factor that in, please.
Yeah, no, correct.
That's exactly right.
They confiscated Russian assets and they have now, and I can't remember the exact number off the top of my head, but they usually vote on what they can do with them.
And now they're actually changing the rules about the six months period to vote and not to vote.
So they're just seizing assets and they want to give them to Ukraine.
Now, whatever your thoughts are on the Russia-Ukraine war, who's right, who's wrong, and that's a whole separate conversation.
But you're trying to run a system and trust is key to that system.
And the thing that represents trust is gold because the dollar has lost it.
The Western system has lost trust.
And, you know, we are seeing, as I said, a bifurcation of the global monetary system and people are returning to that neutral reserve asset, which is gold.
Gold does not carry counterparty risk.
It's not somebody else's liability.
It can't be sanctioned.
It can't be frozen with a push of a button if you have it in your physical possession.
You know, Beijing, for example, is clearly using gold as a trust anchor.
They have the digital yuan pilots like Project Enbridge, where they're experimenting with cross-border settlement systems that rely on a gold neutral reserve asset.
They're moving away from the dollar.
I mean, this is Andy's forte.
It's his thesis.
In fact, I'm quoting over here because I learn everything from him, from my interviews with him.
But, you know, to your point, this commodity drive is because lack of faith.
This is not a regular market cycle.
This is a market cycle where trust is the issue.
And people no longer have trust in fiat.
People no longer have trust in government.
People no longer have trust in media.
People no longer have trust in statistics.
So they're going back to something.
And again, whether it's on a national level or an individual level, they're going back to things that they can trust.
And gold and silver for thousands of years have been something that people can trust and they know retain and hold value.
Well said.
And this is also, in my opinion, this is why technical analysis tools of this current market are basically useless because things are changing so dramatically.
I don't care if it's above a 50-day moving average.
I mean, Michael Barry has said he's out of this market because nothing makes sense to me.
You know, Michael Barry of the big short, he's like, I'm out.
These fundamental analysis doesn't make sense.
This market is completely disconnected from reality.
So he returned his investors all the money and is like, I don't work in this environment.
That's actually the wise choice.
And then, all right, so we want to be respectful of your time, both of you.
And so Todd, you get the last question, but then let's leave time for Andy to give out his super secret email price list contact method for milesfranklin.com.
I want to make sure we get that in for you.
But Todd, you get the last question.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is going to be a practical question for you, Andy.
And as you know, Mike, I help people with these unincorporated nonprofit associations.
And I'm getting mine set up with Andy.
And I was doing a consultation and we were talking about precious metals.
And this person really wants to acquire them.
And I talked about Miles Franklin and connecting with you and gave me your contact information.
But they did ask the question.
They said, okay, what if I put, let's say, $50,000 into precious metals and I take self-custody of those?
And if, you know, things get a little tight and I need to liquidate that, how do I do that?
Is that also a service that you all provide to where you buy silver and gold?
I would tell you that any company that you intend to do business with, if they don't, you should run as fast as you can.
And so, yes, a two-way market is something that's imperative and we will always make it to a market.
And I will also, as, I mean, I put my hand on the Bible as God is my witness that I will tell the public when I think it's time to sell at the same time to switch asset classes that maybe it's run its course.
Maybe it's time.
If that ever happens, I don't know that it will.
But if they do want to sell for, you know, people focus too much on having gold and silver as something for an emergency.
As I've mentioned a million times, I view this as wealth.
And so I've been acquiring it as per a promise to my father when I started this company 36 years ago that I buy something every two weeks.
And I have.
I've never missed a two-week period ever.
And that compounding of time and interest is the best gift I've ever been given.
But if you do need to sell for not just an emergency, an opportunity, and there will be opportunities in this environment.
There will be.
It's very easy to do.
We assist you in getting it sent back.
We can send you Federal Express air bill with insurance applied on it.
You package it up the way we tell you to do so.
You drop it off at a FedEx hub.
If it's gold, it comes overnight.
If it's silver, it goes by two, three day ground.
Upon receipt, we cut you a wire or a check and send it right back to you.
Actually, by you know, by no later, I think than January 1st, 2027, we'll send it to you via the stablecoin network, which is going to be the, you know, the genius act where money will be moving like that.
But that's, that's down the road.
Until then, old school, check or wire the minute it comes in.
And we've done it that way for 35 years.
Give us, give the audience your email address for the VIP price list that you have.
Yeah, you know, Mike, I work with a lot of not only influencers, but a lot of brokerages that run their business through me.
And I give them the ability to sell as inexpensive as they want.
We have a limit on how much they cancel.
That's why we don't really post our prices.
And so our prices will be as competitive as anyone in the country.
And you would send an email to info at milesfranklin.com, I-N-F-O, ask for the price list.
We update it twice a week.
If you find prices that are markedly better, which I don't think you will, but if you do, let us know.
We will do the best we can to address that.
But it's info at milesfranklin.com, whether it be for prices or questions that you heard here, precious metals IRAs, or, or even the topic that is now becoming the topic du jour, which is that you and I talked about before, the problems with IRAs that people have had.
And we've had good luck helping people with that.
So, yeah, that was my next question.
Are you still helping people unravel some of the scams out there with the unscrupulous companies?
Mike, I can't even.
I mean, I had, what's his name?
Michelle, what's his name?
Dale Whitaker.
Dale Whitaker on my show.
Dale Whitaker is the whistleblower for one of these companies and he's blowing up.
Oh, wow.
He has a new book that's come out.
And you should have him on your show, Mike.
I'd love to.
He's fantastic.
Dale Whitaker is his name.
And he has come out and publicly, he was the CFO of one of those precious metals companies and he names them all.
And I was just talking to Chris Olson.
And Chris said he's going to start naming names as well.
So this could get really interesting.
He is.
And I know that because of what Tucker and that's one of the reasons that Tucker did what he did.
He was offered $20 or $25 million by one of these companies.
And I know you were offered a lot of money by one of these companies.
That says a lot about you that you didn't do it because these people who are doing that are whether they know it or not, you knew it.
Others don't.
But I will tell you, Tucker knew it, and you can tell.
And basically what's happening is that they're destroying people's lives.
And that's not being sensational.
I mean, truly eviscerating people's lives.
And so we've had great luck in helping people with that.
And the first shows I talked about that with.
If you think you've been taken by one of these companies, you can contact Andy at info at milesfranklin.com.
And Andy can probably, can't make any guarantees, but he can probably help you unravel that.
And yes, I wasn't offered $20 million like Tucker.
I was offered $100,000 a month, which is not pocket change, to promote this other gold company.
And I said no.
But anyway, that's for another podcast.
Michelle, I want to give you an opportunity to plug your show and your channel again here before we wrap this up.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
And I've enjoyed being on your show.
We need to have you on my show to talk about your Nigerian Nigerian goats and your prepper lifestyle because that is something that actually resonates quite deeply with me.
But yes, on the real story look, what we do is, again, we like to have a variety of perspectives.
We like to challenge our guests.
I like to always push back even when I agree 100%.
I like to play devil's advocate for that.
I noticed that.
And just open our viewers' minds so that they have the information, that they have the knowledge, that they have the perspectives to make informed decisions to help them preserve their wealth, their future, and their freedom, very similar to what you're doing, but mostly through a macroeconomic lens.
But we like to talk about a range of topics and again, challenge the mainstream narrative, challenge the noise, bring your real signal, as we like to say.
Well, you do a great job at that.
And I just want to advocate to our entire audience to follow your channels, Miles Franklin Media and your other shows and channels and interviews.
Because Michelle, and I'm not just blowing smoke, I think you're one of the sharpest analysts.
You have a lot of courage.
You push back against people and you don't let people just spew nonsense on your show about crypto or whatever.
And we love that about you.
And also, Andy, you know, the same way you're critical thinker, love what you're doing.
So thank you both for taking the time with us today.
It's been a pleasure.
It's great to see you.
I really appreciate that feedback means a lot coming from you.
So sincerely, thank you.
Thank you very much.
And thank you for watching.
Absolutely.
We'll have to have you on the real story very soon.
Love to join you.
We can talk about, we can talk about AI and what's happening there because I'm tied into that community pretty deeply.
But for today, folks, again, milesfranklin.com is the website.
MilesFranklin Media is the channel on YouTube.
And then info at milesfranklin.com is the secret email address.
So thank you both for joining us today.
It's been a pleasure and have a wonderful rest of your day.
You guys too.
Bye, everybody.
All right.
Take care.
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And it's true, like I promised during the interview, Todd, I'm going to take a transcript of this entire show and I'm going to feed it into the book engine and create a book called like Silver Supply Crunch 2026.
How about that?
I love it.
I love it.
It's going to be good too, man, because we covered a lot of territory during the show.
It will be good.
But you know what we can do since it's going to use the transcript.
Yeah.
We now have the opportunity to sort of hijack the like one of the chapters.
Like if we talk about something really crazy like pink dinosaurs or something, that could find its way into the book.
That's so true.
That's so true.
So, right?
So are we going to are we going to hack our own book system here today?
You know that LGBT, the acronym, the G stands for gold.
You knew that, right, Mike?
The G stands for gold.
Is that what you're remaining?
Let's see.
Well, then what would what would the LG and the T stand for?
Lead.
No, well, the B. I'm sorry, the B. Billions.
And T would be trillions.
Trillion.
Lead, gold, billions, and trillions.
That's LGBT.
Yeah, stick with us, everyone, and you too can be LGBT savvy.
Okay, so let me give a prompt to the book writer right now.
Create a subchapter entitled Why LGBT Stands for Lead, Gold, Billions, Trillions.
And talk about the similarities between transgenderism and financial transmutation.
And let's see if it spits it out.
And just like there's non-binary genders, there's also this non-binary metals that self-identify.
No, no, currency self-identifies as money, but it isn't.
It's like a man being a woman.
A dollar says it's money, but it's only self-identifying as money.
The real money is the silver.
The gold.
The gold.
Yeah.
Does that make sense?
Silver and the gold.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lead, gold, billions, trillions.
Yeah, but you know what?
It's our movie.
So lead, gold, billions, trillions.
And it's the LGBQ S. You know, they always add, you know, letters to their long acronym, right?
Oh, yeah.
S for silver.
Wait, wait, wait.
Okay.
So LGBTQ would be lead, gold, billions, trillions, quotient, and then silver.
And then silver.
Okay.
Yeah.
It makes perfect sense.
This will probably end up in like a White House financial report also.
You know, like the Treasury Secretary will put out a report because it was generated by ChatGPT.
It should.
Did I share with you at the opening of the show that there's a gentleman, a famous guy who has an unincorporated nonprofit association who always blows through to the after party?
This is why, Mike.
Oh, yeah, this is why.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I know who you're talking about.
And he would be rolling with laughter at our LGBT joke here.
He would.
Yes.
So look, Mike, if I could, I want to tell the true story.
Please.
I touched upon it in the show, but as I was taking my deep dive and what I kept coming back to was that, you know, why is silver demand exploding?
And it was because of the industrial necessity.
And when I talked about supply constraints, demand drivers and market stress signals, it's really the demand drivers that hit home with me.
Clearly.
And yeah, I mean, the AI data centers, I mean, you talk about that all the time, you know, in the servers and the solar panels and the electric vehicles and charging networks and power grids and transformers and defense and aerospace electronics.
But all of that, Mike, is the demand, right?
And when I showed that, that, I don't know if you can see it.
Let me let me pull it back up here.
When I showed this, Mike.
Remember when we talked about that?
Yep.
Supply-demand ratio.
Yeah.
So when you take a look at the supply chain.
Demand-supply ratio.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Being static and low, and you have these increased demand drivers.
To me, Mike, I just took that down to my wife and I just said, look, for Christmas, we are going to buy, excuse my language, this is exactly what I said.
We're going to buy a shit ton of silver.
And that's what we're doing.
And as soon as we get off of here, I am sending my inquiry to Andy.
And the good thing is, Mike, for those people who have acquired UNAs or are interested in them, I am going to be buying it not as my social security number me.
It's going to be through my UNA, which means I won't own it.
I mean, I won't perfect, but I will control it.
Right.
And then later, if I should ever need to convert any to fiat for whatever reason, it is treated differently from a tax standpoint.
I won't go into details there.
If anybody or any authority were to ever ask you, do you own the silver?
Your legally correct answer would be no, I donated it away.
Well, it's not even a donation because as secretary of the UNA, you can buy and sell whatever.
So you're just writing on behalf.
So it is.
I use funds within the UNA to buy the silver.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
That's correct.
Got it.
And so I have nothing to do with it from the social security number me standpoint.
So that would be a literal true fact.
No, sir, I have not acquired any kind of precious metals this year.
Correct.
And the stuff that I do have, I think, was sunk in a ship.
I don't know.
Okay.
Well, this is really important information.
We'll get to the UNA coming up here shortly.
I want to show people the table of elements here.
Okay.
Bring that up on my screen, please.
So the table of elements.
LGBQS.
No, no, this is straight science right here.
So the table of elements, of course, in this version, this is the flat version of the table of elements, which is, it's also kind of like the flat earth theory.
This is the flat table.
In reality, these elements have a relationship that's more spherical, but that's another topic because all atoms are spherical anyway.
But anyway, check this out.
So here we have copper, silver, and gold.
And notice that they are stacked on top of each other.
Why would that be?
And they're in this group called the transition metals right here.
Well, these transition metals have very special properties that cannot be achieved because it's because of the outer orbital shell of the electrons and the mass of the atomic nuclei, et cetera.
They have unique properties that cannot be replicated by any other element.
So when somebody says, I need silver to make this cruise missile or I need silver to make these solar panels, they can't come over here and say, well, how about zirconium?
We have zirconium.
You can't use zirconium to replace silver.
Now, I know this seems like a common observation, right?
Yeah.
But you hear, but the way people talk about silver in industry, they're like, well, why can't you just use something else?
Because it's not silver.
That's because it's not in this spot on this table of elements with this orbital structure of electrons and also positive, negative charges and whatever.
That's why.
Because physics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't use xantham gum in replacement in solar panels.
Is that on the table of elements somewhere?
Is there a xanthanite?
Xanthonite.
Xanthonium?
Yeah.
But notice that copper, silver, and gold, back to the table.
Copper, silver, and gold are stacked on top of each other.
And each one of these has been used as a form of currency.
Copper, right?
Yep.
Even in the U.S., copper pennies used to be, right?
Silver all throughout history and gold all throughout history.
Why?
Why copper, silver, and gold?
Well, properties of these metals include durability and especially with gold, a resistance to oxidation.
So these metals aren't going to wear out as you hold them in your pocket, as you handle them and give them to people.
They're not going to wear out.
And guess what?
All three of them conduct electricity very well.
They're all conductors.
And they're all fungible.
And they're fungible.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So my point is that, you know, these are physical properties that you can't fake.
Right.
Because, see, we live in a world of such sort of currency fakery and business fakery.
You know, even the government's like, oh, we'll print another trillion dollars.
Okay.
Well, but you can't print silver.
No, it's scarce.
I mean, there's only so much out there.
And as Andy shared, I believe it was Andy, you know, they're having to go deeper and deeper, right?
So you just can't acquire it like you can print money.
Right.
And that's what makes it great.
Yes.
Yes.
Is that the government can't counterfeit it?
They can't counterfeit it.
If they could, they would have by now.
They would have by now.
We'd be rolling in silver.
And then also, sometimes I hear from people, well, the whole market could crash if there's a giant gold asteroid that crashes into the earth.
I'm like, well, you mean if anybody survives?
I think you have bigger problems than the monetary system if a massive gold meteor slams into the earth.
Absolutely.
I would say we are all SOL at that point.
I mean, and besides, there are no gold asteroids.
No.
I mean, there might be asteroids with like 0.001% gold, which means you're going to get smacked with mostly iron and other metals.
It's going to have a giant blast crater.
Yeah.
Like the water.
And then it wiped out the dinosaurs or whatever.
It'll go dark forever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you're like, bitch, I'm rich as it comes down and lands on your chest and like wipes you out.
You got all the gold in the world, but you're all dead.
I think that should be part of people's financial calculus, investment calculus, is to consider the asteroid element.
So for the AI prompt for your book, that should be a chapter on what if a gold asteroid hits Earth.
Well, so, okay.
So the other argument that I hear from people is, well, we're going to mine the asteroids and we're going to bring the gold back.
Like, great.
That gold will be a million dollars an ounce because of the cost of launching and mining in space and bringing it back intact, et cetera.
I mean, you know how much the moon rocks sell for?
And they're not even gold.
Yeah.
It's just like stuff from the moon.
Like moon dust is hundreds of thousands of dollars an ounce, you know?
Yeah, just spend that worry and money on installing a food forest in your backyard and you'll be better off.
Trust me.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, I just wanted to give people an understanding of the table of elements and the fact that physical silver cannot be replicated.
And there's also, there is no, there's no method that is known to be able to produce gold or silver through fusion or fission that is cost effective.
There was a science paper where they created a few atoms of gold.
And I remember seeing the articles like, oh, they created gold.
Scientists created gold.
And everybody's like, oh my God, the gold market's going to crash.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
They created like 10 atoms of gold for like a million dollars.
It's like, that's the most expensive gold in the universe.
So don't worry about that.
It's cheaper to dig it up.
Right.
By far.
Well, and the gold mine, I mean, the silver mines, I guess silver mining, I should say, is they mention a byproduct of mining gold mostly.
Or other like nickel.
Right.
Like silver is the byproduct for the most part.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, but it's crazy how it has been controlled so long, for so long, but how lately whatever, you know, environmental factors there are in the financial system, that it's not being controlled anymore, Mike.
I mean, it's like it's off the leash.
Well, you know, during the interview, Andy mentioned the Tom Longo theory that Trump is at war with the city of London.
Yeah.
And I actually, I think Longo is correct.
I think that's exactly what's happening.
You know what would be really cool is for you to take, maybe it'll take you three seconds to write the prompt to write that book on why he's correct so that those of us who really don't understand it could read it and get a sense as to what that actually means because I've heard about that, but I just don't understand it.
Well, I've interviewed Longo before.
And by the way, do you know he is a chemist by trade and he used to work in a lab doing liquid chromatography?
Really?
Yeah.
No kidding.
Yeah, he and I have a very similar background.
Oh, man, you guys must nerd out when you talk.
Nerd out on molecules and stuff.
Yeah.
Luongo, I mean, yeah, I could just invite Luongo on the show.
How about that?
Let's do that.
Sure.
Let's do it.
Let's have him on the show.
Okay.
I'm sure he'd be happy to join us.
And everybody, just know that L stands for his last name in LGB, you know, not Long.
Are you still trying to affect the prompt?
I'm trying my best.
These are like nerdy Jedi mind tricks.
That's what we're doing.
We're trying to do Jedi mind tricks on the AI engine.
Yeah, but it impacts people.
You know, people appreciate it.
I've had several people this week message me and just say, I'm sorry, the Buccaneers suck.
And that was because of you.
That's my fault.
Yeah.
Well, that's because I looked at they had the worst winning record of all the NFL teams.
So it just happens to be where you live.
Yeah.
And it's like, well, and you watch football sometimes.
So I figured you must watch them lose from time to time.
Yeah, but I'm sorry.
And the last decade, they've won way more than they've lost.
So there we go.
Is that right?
Oh, okay.
Well, I don't mean to be incentivized.
They are the losingest franchise in history for like 40 years.
Oh, but recently they're winning.
In all sports, they had the worst record percentage-wise than any other professional team in baseball, hockey, football.
Really?
Yeah, really bad.
It was literally, they referred to it as decades of depression.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, you could cheer them up with some silver.
Right.
Let's let them enjoy something a little bit.
No, but, you know, here we are.
We're close to the end of 2025 now.
And 2026 is going to be a wild year.
And there's a lot that's going to change.
So one of the things I want to do here in the after party is ask you for your predictions about what we're going to see or what we're going to be talking about in 2026.
What do you say?
Wow.
I think a lot of what we're talking about today, I think we're going to be talking a ton about the emergence of means to be able to exchange value privately.
I do think cryptocurrency and specifically, I think 2026 is going to be the year of private cryptocurrency.
There's been so much advancement in the technology that's out there.
And I think people are starting to catch on that you are totally under centralized control banking through, you know, or exchanging value through all of the traditional banking systems, et cetera, Mike.
And your book, let me plug your book, Exchange on Value Privately.
Right.
It will educate everybody.
It is very good.
And I'm not just promoting it because I took part in it.
It did what your engine does.
It takes a thought and it unpacks it and it makes it better.
And I co-wrote a book that I wanted to read, Mike.
And man, it was just on target.
I mean, just, yeah, it was so on target.
And my jaws just dropped when your little bots went out there and did their thing to create all of the chapters, Mike.
Yeah.
Because everything that they're touching upon, I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot about that.
Oh, yes.
You know what I mean?
Isn't it amazing?
It's amazing.
It is like, it is like, I don't know what it's like, except a miracle.
I really do look at it as a miracle and I think it's going to change the world.
I literally think your invention is going to change the world.
Yes.
Well, that would be the most fun ever to change the world in a positive way.
In a positive way.
Yeah, in a positive way.
This is all about knowledge, you know?
But did you see Michelle's reaction during the interview?
Yeah.
Like she said, wait a second.
This engine creates books, entire books.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I see this from people a lot.
There's this initial disbelief, like, wait, what?
Right.
And then when like you worked with Tillman on this book, right?
Yeah, that's right.
Yep.
Was Tillman like shocked at the result?
Tillman, Tillman went into it, like I said, skeptical, right?
Because he is a very, very good writer.
I've seen, I've sent to you many of his articles.
And he's probably the best writer, technical writer that I know, specific to the cryptocurrency space.
And he's very rational, very reasoned.
And man, he doesn't pull punches and he doesn't, he's just awesome.
And so he came in and I asked for his assistance in this because I knew he has so many wonderful technical articles out there.
And he just was so skeptical that any book engine, no matter what the prompt, would be able to do anything as good as he potentially could do.
And he's not saying that in a negative way.
You know, it's just he was in disbelief.
Well, he suspended his disbelief after he saw the different chapters and how, you know, what do you call the first part before you proceed?
The architect.
Yeah, the art.
Yeah, the architecture of it stuff.
And he just couldn't believe based upon.
Now, he had a beautiful prompt, by the way.
Yes.
I mean, his prompt was amazing because he didn't even, he didn't say what he wanted it to be.
He said what I don't want it to be.
I don't want it to be a cheerleader, a cheerleading book for any particular cryptocurrencies or anything like that.
So that was very cool.
But when he got the final product, he was just, I mean, he's not an exclamation point guy, but he was an exclamation point guy in our Telegram conversation where he was just saying, this is fantastic.
Exclamation.
So yeah, I can't wait to read the book I co-wrote this weekend.
Well, that is super cool.
And, you know, I should remind you that the book, the statistics, like how many reads and downloads, that's only updated occasionally.
And in fact, if you can show my screen, it's okay to show this.
This is the behind the scenes engine here.
Like I can click, I want to rebuild the platform statistics page.
And I click re-render, and then it's building that page again.
And then there's a maintenance mode here where this engine, which has a lot more to it here, this engine will, from time to time, it will rebuild the book index pages that has all the correct number of reads and downloads and things like that.
But it's not real time.
It's not real time.
And the reason for that is that all the books are served up as static pages, not dynamic database-driven pages.
Okay.
So that if the database crashes, which they all do, the books don't disappear.
Beautiful.
Because all the pages are already there.
Well, I wonder, based upon last week's interview, how the belly fat deception is doing, Mike.
Do you have any numbers?
No.
You want me to pull up the belly fat deception?
All right.
Well, let's the search engine here.
It hasn't been working as well as I'd hoped.
I'm going to have to tweak it a little bit.
Let me search for the word belly and see if it brings it up.
And currently the answer is no.
It did bring up a barrel of belly laughs, however.
And then the belly laugh manifesto, unleash your inner joker guilt-free.
So, but I'll fix this and we'll bring up your belly fat book next time.
We'll see how it's doing.
And I also need to activate the podcast on that book.
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
I can't wait.
All right.
I'll work on that for you.
All right.
By the way, back to your predictions.
I see you trying to wiggle out of the 2026 predictions.
I think silver is going to be, I think it's going to blow past 100 bucks.
And I think we're going to be talking about that.
And private crypto.
I think we're going to be talking about living life locally because I think everybody is going to be dealing with such fear porn on mainstream television that you and I are going to have to bring people back to some sense of normalcy so that they tune out the noise that's going to be out there.
I think there's probably going to be some kind of PSYOP that's going to happening this coming year because there always is.
I don't know if it's going to be aliens descending, but everybody don't believe a thing, right?
And then there's just going to be the advanced tech, and it's going to be trying to determine how you can not be conquered by tech, like AI, right?
But how you can wield it.
And I think that's just a mindset.
And you have helped us really be able to figure that out, Mike.
And I'm just going to continue to hope that there's a lot more demand drivers for silver consumption.
Because like I said, I'm getting me a nice Christmas present.
Silver in your, what is it?
The stockings by the fireplace.
Is that how that goes?
It's going to be real heavy stockings.
Yeah.
Yeah, because silver can be quite heavy.
Okay.
Well, those are, huh?
What about you?
What are your predictions, Mike?
Oh, well, thank you for asking.
I'm predicting a dichotomy of radical abundance in the digital space because of AI technologies like what we're talking about.
But at the same time, it's going to be combined with severe economic disruptions and replacements in the job market.
I see 2026 as a year where at least an extra million Americans will lose their jobs because of AI replacement.
And we're going to see widespread bankruptcies of additional corporations, as well as commercial banks and consumer lending banks.
So we're at over $18.6 trillion of aggregate consumer debt in this country right now.
And then there's something else that is very concerning to me.
And let me see if I can bring this up.
I actually, I did a book on this as well.
Here it is.
The great dumbing down of America, the silent crisis of shockingly widespread illiteracy.
And there's a new survey put out by a university that shows, and Todd, I'm not making this up.
You're going to be shocked.
But 54% of U.S. adults are illiterate.
That is, they can't read at a sixth grade level.
Five, four?
54%.
And it sounds like a typo, but it's not.
That's nuts.
Yeah, that's nuts.
Is that because of all the immigration and maybe English isn't their first language?
No, no, it's because of the failing education system and the fact that all the liberal professors and school teachers give everybody A's when they actually deserve F's.
Wow.
And there's even the University of California San Diego, they found that the freshman class coming in that were accepted to the university, one eighth of those freshman incoming students can't read at a fifth grade level.
Or no, I'm sorry, seventh grade level.
Amazing.
And they have to go through remedial reading.
I mean, in California, you can be accepted into a university when you can't read.
At the fifth grade level.
At the seventh grade, that was my mistake.
But I mean, it hardly matters whether it's fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh.
They can't read.
They can't read.
And I'm not even, I'm not blaming the students themselves.
They're part of a broken system that has rewarded them for being what? LGBT.
Exactly.
They've rewarded them for being LGBT, and they've punished them for being smart or having skills or earning their way through the system.
Yeah.
Right.
I bet you your AI bots can read at the seventh grade level.
See, this is the thing.
The reason job replacements will be so aggressive is because literally more than half of American adults can't read.
And how hard is that going to be for those people to be replaced by AI in cognitive jobs?
And how many Walmart greeters do you really need, Mike?
I mean, what are they going to do?
Yeah.
All these people who are going to be displaced.
Yeah, that's our new economy.
Greeters, not readers.
It's like, it's all you can do is say, hello, ma'am, but you can't read the sign that says closed, you know?
Um, and it begs the question, and I'm serious about this.
You know, it begs the question of how Trump believes that we can reindustrialize America, and this is his vision, right?
You know, it's a great vision, I get it, but if your people can't freaking read, how are they going to run the tech factories?
But I guess the only thing that I'm thinking about is people are reading every day on their phones, right?
I mean, they're not reading books, they're not, but but they're, I find it hard to believe that 54% of the people can't read.
Well, what it means is they can't comprehend a paragraph.
Okay, so yeah, you're right.
They can, they can read likes, they can read like little short things on the phone, but they can't, they can't comprehend anything they're reading.
Okay, right.
So they're not getting, they're not going to read a chapter and be able to regurgitate what the meaning behind it was in a summary form.
They're not going to be able to read a white paper on something or to understand food ingredients or to read even the legal language of a medical procedure or the terms of service or even to read about how to how to, you know, you go in to vote and it explains here's, you know, here's the proposition.
They can't even read that.
Yep.
So how like half our voters can't read.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, and the other half that can, there are many liberals in those two.
And so, and I think you have to whittle it down even further.
And I'm going to, I'm going to make a point here.
Is I've expressed many, many times on this show my dim view of humanity that I think that there are only two percent of us who have the capacity to critically think.
And the other 98% pretty much take their download from mainstream media.
And they don't want to take that 2%, Mike.
And I bet you, I mean, there is just a small percentage of those people who are going to figure out your book creation engine and actually be productive with it.
So if you're watching this show, congratulations, you are not a dumb person.
I'm telling you.
Yeah, for sure.
You are a very, very small percentage of that 2%.
And by the way, your video frame rate looks great now.
It has for a while.
I forgot to mention it.
Okay, good.
It has self-healed.
I don't understand what cell healed.
Self-healed.
Maybe you're moving your lips faster now.
Yeah, yeah.
I could put some gorilla glue on it.
All kinds of magical things.
Did you know this?
You know, when I almost cut off my finger with the machete and people, people were DMing me saying, man, you should have put gorilla glue on it.
Did you know that people do that?
Well, I wouldn't put gorilla glue, but I mean, I have super glue does have a function at keeping the skin together.
I've used super glue on my dog before to seal up a gaping wound.
And that does work for that.
In fact, vets, there's a veterinarian super glue that is used, but it's not gorilla glue, which is not the same thing.
That's a totally different chemical cocktail.
Yeah, you're right.
Maybe they just said super glue or whatever, but there was a gentleman who has a UNA that is in agriculture.
He has a farm.
And, you know, he gets, he says, I get cut all the time and I just put super glue on it.
Yeah, well, I mean, that actually makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had no idea when it was just going.
Yeah, that's not the superglue moment when it's gushing the blood.
Yeah, that's the stop the bleeding moment.
Yeah, which is not easy when you're by yourself and then you have to drive yourself to the hospital.
That's it's it's hard to drive and have compression on your hand too at the same time with your other hand.
So, but that's what knees are for.
I'm a good knee driver.
That's funny because you and I both have almost severed our fingers in the last few years.
What's going on?
I don't know.
We're doing as careless with our fingers.
They just put them anywhere.
Yeah, right.
No.
But boy, they healed up nicely, didn't they?
Yes, exactly.
Good, good healing.
Yours healed faster than mine did.
So you must be doing something right.
Next time, swing harder with the machete.
Oh, no, I will never look at a rack of bananas the same, man.
Oh, yeah.
That's when I did it.
I swung the first time and it went three quarters of the way through.
And I thought, ah, man.
And so I went to grab it closer to where the cut was and I pulled down and I was just going to try to and I missed.
That's why, you know, there are a lot of seven-fingered people in Ecuador.
Oh, I bet.
Because of bananas.
I bet.
Yeah.
And somebody says, Did you ever have any kind of notion to maybe wear gloves?
And I'm like, good idea.
Yeah, that's the old, the old banana gloves.
That's very important.
Yeah, well, we live and learn and we share what works with people.
So let's talk about that right now and move off the subject of severed fingers.
You're buying your silver through your UNA, and now it's too late for people to set up a UNA this year, 2025.
But that ship sailed.
That's over, but it's good planning for 2026.
So I brought up your website.
Tell us about my575e.com.
Yeah, I just encourage people to go there, my575e.com, and hit let's go and just watch the 90-minute interview of Dennis Gray.
I interview him, and you have free access to that after you hit let's go.
And it'll, you know, blow your mind, right?
And just know that Dennis has been helping people for over 37 years acquire this lawful entity, which has many, many advantages, tax advantages, property protection advantages, decreasing your personal liability.
If you're a W-2 earner, a 1099 earner, if you operate an LLC, if you own property, if you trade in crypto, if you acquire gold and silver, you know, you at least want to know the entity exists.
I've helped Mike, I have helped over 400 people over the past two plus years acquire their UNAs.
And we have a private Telegram group that is the most amazing community that you'll ever see.
I mean, because they all came through this show, right?
And I have to thank you, Mike, is at without the fact that you are you and people know that you're the most principled man.
I have people talk, tell me that all the time, that Mike is the most principled man I've ever met or heard or, you know, and they said, I know that if this wasn't as advertised, Mike would not allow you to speak about it on the show.
And that is the absolute truth.
You've done your own research, et cetera.
So all I suggest is people watch that video, download the PDF, and then assess for yourself.
And if you have any questions, what's really cool is I make it very easy to book a one-on-one consultation with me through the website.
And it is $150.
But if you move forward with the UNA, you get that back.
You just take it off of the investment of the UNA.
The only reason why I charge anything is because when I didn't, people didn't show up.
And so that cured that.
And most people, by the way, Mike, when they do. do the consultation, probably 90% of them move forward with the UNA just because they have personal questions and they just need to feel better based upon their personal circumstances.
So with that, I will tell you that how I am moving forward with my acquisition of my Christmas silver is I'm not going to buy it as Todd Pittner's Social Security number me.
I'm going to buy it through my UNA.
See, that is so smart because when the day comes that you want to liquidate the silver.
Yep.
Now it's not under your personal income.
It is totally disassociated from my personal income.
That's right.
And it's in a nonprofit organization, which has no duty or obligation to file.
So if you did get any kind of a document, everybody in the group is it's fun.
It's like when I say class, what do we do with W9s and K1s?
And they'll say, nothing, you know, just because there's not the duty.
So it is just, it's been around.
This entity has been around over 50 years.
Dennis is fond of saying this was created by California legislators for California legislators.
And it doesn't matter where you live or operate.
It's just like anybody could acquire a corporation from Delaware or if somebody wanted an LLC from Wyoming or if you wanted a UNA from California because that's where all of the protective case law is.
But you do have to be American.
You do have to be American.
Yeah.
Sorry, Canadians and Australians.
And I get a lot of those inquiries.
So yeah, you have to be a taxpayer.
And thank you for explaining all that.
I just want to mention again your website here, my575E.com is where people can find that.
And just as a disclaimer, we are not your tax advisors.
So go get your own professional advice.
And what I have confirmed, absolutely, this is in California law.
It's right there.
And yes, you get a tax-exempt number from the IRS that you can use to open bank accounts.
That's right.
And so you can do all the traditional normal banking or you can open crypto accounts with it.
You can do everything that you could do with LLC.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Or S-Corp, C-Corp.
Exactly.
Okay.
So that's great advice for 2026.
Let me mention something new.
I just want to say one last thing because I am dealing with it right now.
I can't, this last week, I had 37 consultations.
That's a full work week, right?
And that's in addition to everything else I'm doing.
And it's just because people get the same thing.
They say, I've been listening to it all year.
I've intended to do this and now, but I, and I really want to do this because I want to benefit with, you know, the year-end tax advantages.
And it breaks my heart to say that that ship has sailed at this point in time.
You know, we're in mid-December.
But don't be that person, everyone.
You know, find a use case.
And if you are a W-2 earner or a 1099 earner, you know, that is the single use case to where these will pay for themselves in about 10 seconds.
So just start the year off on the right foot.
And we'll get you invited into that private telegram group.
And how do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
Find one use case and just, you know, acquire one, and then you'll be able to learn all of the other benefits throughout the year 2026.
Don't wait till December of 2026 to finally try to get one.
You can make 2026 a really great year financially, asset protection-wise, privacy-wise.
Let me also mention this: that we have something new for your health that people have been asking for.
And the way to find this is through my website, rangerdeals.com.
And this is where I link to the affiliate providers that I personally recommend.
And there's not that many of them, but some of these are people we've interviewed, like with VP.net, et cetera, satellite phones.
But this company, Limitless Peptides, peptide therapy really transformed my life this year.
And it allowed me to be able to start jogging and working out again because of the BPC157 peptide, healing some old, you know, sports, well, martial arts injuries.
And so, you know, it's been so great to be able to jog and lift and do all these things again.
Yeah, you got jacked this year.
Well, I, I mean, I definitely have gained a lot of strength.
I have to keep upgrading the kettlebells, actually.
And, you know, look, it's not just the peptides.
I mean, I have a super awesome clean diet.
You know, I do super foods and everything, right, all the time.
And I avoid the toxins and I get plenty of sunshine.
And, you know, I do all the right things.
Right.
But the peptides, that was what sort of really triggered the right signals for my body to heal injuries.
Yep.
And I found out that that's because, you know, like Russian researchers decades ago found that this peptide, which your stomach makes normally in very low quantities, but if you supplement a higher quantity, it rebuilds blood vessels to like injured tissue.
Wow.
So the tissue starts to heal and regenerate, actually.
And that's, that's what I experienced.
So that's called BPC 157, and it's available in capsule and intranasal formats.
But there's this new one here that just got released called MK777.
And MK does not stand for, it's not MKUltra, by the way.
It's a mind control pill.
No.
MK777 is an experimental peptide that can be taken orally, you know, just like a supplement.
And this company, Limitless, that's who we work with because they provide all the lab testing that I look at the certification.
You know, because I own a lab, we understand all the MassSpec stuff on the certs.
But so they have very high purity quality stuff.
Well, MK777 has not been available for the longest time.
And this is the sort of, to simplify it, it's the oral version of the growth hormone boosters that people normally inject.
Wow.
But it doesn't have a lot of the downsides of the earlier molecules that would cause things like extreme hunger, things like that.
So this is experimental.
I just want to be clear.
And it's not FDA approved.
It's not a medication.
And your doctor probably won't recommend this, but who cares?
Who cares?
The white coats.
Right, right.
This only became available in the last few weeks.
And really, this company brought it in because of our audience, that our audience was asking for a supplement that can boost your natural hormone response, especially for older people in our audience.
And you and I are older people too, you know?
We're not making growth hormone like in our 20s, right?
Oh.
So if we can rebalance our hormones, but don't have to use injections, because who wants more needles, right?
This is an answer, and it's available right now at Limitless.
Again, you can reach them through rangerdeals.com.
Click on Limitless Peptides and then use discount code Ranger and you'll save, I think it's 15% on every purchase.
And in addition, they also have BPC 157 and some other supplements as well.
So, Todd, this is a brand new one.
I just received a bottle of it.
I haven't started taking it yet, but I'm going to start experimenting with it along with all my training and everything.
You asked me to make some predictions earlier, and so I'm going to make a prediction that I predict that this is going to be sold out really, really quickly.
Probably.
When we talked about the BP 157, was that it?
Yeah.
I remember by the time I went to place my order, it was gone.
Well, yeah, I talked to the principals at this company, and they think they've got a pretty good supply of this.
Beautiful.
I've heard that before, and then it's all gone.
So we'll see.
Well, it's just a testimony to our audience.
They act, you know, and that's good.
And, you know, look, maybe it's just the fact, I mean, we have a very special audience.
Like, we love all of you who watch this show because you represent the top one in a thousand or more people of being informed, having wisdom, having overcome adversity in your life.
I mean, you are the great portion of humanity, right?
Absolutely.
And almost by definition, you're probably on the older side because it takes a lifetime to get to learn wisdom and all these things typically.
Right.
You've paid plenty of tuition throughout the years.
Isn't that the truth, right?
And so our audience is very much interested in new augmentations that can help restore youth vitality, longevity, performance, cognition, cardiovascular health, et cetera.
And these peptides can play a major role in this.
And if you want to do research on these peptides, you can use our AI engine at brightu.ai because it's well versed on these peptides.
And you know what?
Here's something else.
There was a, where did that go?
Not that.
There was a book.
There's a book on brightlearn.ai that's all about peptides that somebody just published this morning.
Really?
Yeah.
Let me see if I can bring it up.
Peptides.
Somebody wanted to write a book they wanted to read, Mike?
It wasn't me.
It really wasn't me.
It's somebody named Rebecca.
But anyway, well, there's a bunch of them.
Here's a book on BPC 157.
Wow.
Here's one called Peptide Power.
But there's another one that I just saw that's not in the search yet.
Anyway, oh, you know what?
Maybe it's in the health category.
Let me bring up health.
Sure.
Oh, man, there's been a bunch of books published since we've been talking.
Oh, are you seeing some of the, there's a bunch of health books here.
Oh, hey, look, the belly fat breakthrough from Pablo.
What?
What?
It's the deception, man.
The deception.
The belly fit.
No, someone has a belly fat breakthrough book.
Todd, someone took your book idea.
They did.
Pablo did it.
That's okay.
Pablo, that's good.
Yeah, we don't mind the population.
Greatest form of flattery.
Good job, Pablo.
Keep it going.
Keep it coming.
Anyway, oh, here's the testosterone code.
There we go.
Anyway, whatever.
I can't find it because there's so many books, but we will, here it is, right here.
Here it is.
The Peptide Protocol, a comprehensive guide to bioregulators for longevity, healing, and optimal health by Rebecca Mondorf.
Beautiful.
See, I couldn't, I couldn't make up that name.
It's not me.
That's amazing.
I don't know if that's a real name or just a pen name.
Either way, it's okay.
But this book has nine chapters and it's comprehensive.
I mean, look at some of these chapters.
Here, it's got the type of peptides, the bioregulators, when to use them, how to safely administer holistic health, legal, ethical, etc.
It just goes on, man.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I called it, you're changing the world, Mike.
That book engine is going to change the world like Chat GP, or like Google changed the world way back when, right?
I mean, this is one of those breakthroughs that just we're going to look back on and just say they can't, it's unstoppable.
That's what I love about it.
It is unstoppable.
Yeah.
And, you know, because you and I always think about privacy and also resilience, especially with finances or assets or things like that or business structures.
I made a decision that this entire engine would always be non-commercial and it would never charge.
And, you know, one of the great benefits of that is it's not regulated by the FTC or any federal agencies that regulate commercial activity.
How beautiful is that?
Isn't that awesome?
Yeah.
And everybody watching, please know that that creation, what you've done, only comes from people supporting you.
And I mean, you've invested over $2 million in this.
And it is because people have been supporting your store and your affiliate relationships, your referrals.
And so thank you, everybody.
Keep that up, please.
Oh, yeah.
One final announcement, Todd, that's related to all this.
I almost forgot to mention this.
We're going, if you, if you go to decentralize.tv, let me bring up the website.
Decentralize.
Here it is.
Okay.
This is our show site, right?
And you can, if you click the subscribe button on top right here, here, show the screen.
Yeah.
Click subscribe, enter your email address.
Okay.
We are going to, after this episode airs, we're going to email out a free book generation token to every subscriber of this show.
Oh, fantastic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's great.
Yeah.
And that, and that means that, I mean, I know you can create a book, a three-chapter book for free, but this would allow you to be able to have a more robust nine-chapter book.
Correct.
A full-length book.
Full-length book.
Yeah.
With also enhanced cover art because the tokens give you better quality cover art than the free books because we use different engines.
Okay.
I love it.
Yeah.
So, folks, subscribe.
If you're not already, just go to decentralize.tv, enter your email address right there on the subscribe button, and then watch that email because we will email you a token for the book engine.
How cool.
Until then, you can just use the book engine for free and you can generate the short books.
Yeah.
Or you can get tokens at healthrangerstore.com.
You can just swap your loyalty points for tokens, but that requires a purchase, whereas we're just going to email these out for free.
So, hey, Mike, if I could rewind a year, okay, it's December 2024.
Okay.
Okay.
Everything that you've created, it wasn't even a germ of an idea back then, was it?
It wasn't possible.
Amazing.
You know, what's so bizarre about how AI tech is moving so rapidly is that this, the book engine that I've built, it wasn't possible this last summer.
Wow.
The tools just weren't mature enough for this.
Right.
Because I was trying, believe me, I was trying.
And the code writing capabilities were not good.
Okay.
I was trying things, you know, a year ago.
Okay.
Just weren't mature.
But for people who are curious, the actual code writing engine that I use to write the code for this is Anthropics Opus 4.5.
And when they ran, they rolled out that upgrade to 4.5, all of a sudden everything became possible.
Amazing.
But it's only also because I used to run software development teams.
Right.
And I know a lot about the tech and the structure and databases.
We're in this phase right now in AI where if you have a technical background, you can use AI to create amazing apps.
We're not quite at the phase where you can do it with zero technical knowledge, but that's coming.
Right.
Wow.
That's coming.
And Anthropic, I think, is leading the way on the code side right now.
I don't know about you, Todd, but I use AI engines like all day long for different things.
So many different tasks, like build the script that does this thing.
Wow.
Or do this research or write this code or fix this problem.
It's like, it's constant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I sure do it for my prep.
Absolutely.
You know, it's, and it's just cool how it all works.
And then it just takes you down different rabbit holes that you can say, okay, is that relevant?
Is that?
Yeah, we'll use, we'll use that.
Yeah.
You know, it's very cool.
So I'll give you until Easter for your teleportation mic.
No, the, okay, so the next phase of tech for this show is, as you recall, we're going to be acquiring robots in 2026.
Right.
I mean, assuming somebody will sell them to us.
I mean, there's a lot of hype in robotics, so we don't know if they're actually shipping yet, you know?
But we've contacted all the top robotics companies.
I even, I filmed, no, seriously, I filmed a video message in Chinese to send to Chinese robot companies.
Did you really?
Well, I spoke Chinese for a little bit at the beginning because I'm not fully fluent in Chinese, but I can speak enough, you know, for the greeting.
So I actually, I filmed a Chinese video to talk to the Chinese robot companies because I want the Chinese robots in addition to, you know, Tesla robots and everything.
Like I want robots from everywhere in the world, but China's got the most.
Wow.
So I sent a Chinese video message to the Chinese robot companies and they probably thought it was like AI translation, but it wasn't.
Amazing.
It was me fumbling through Chinese, you know?
But anyway, we're going to have robots and then we're going to have more AI tools.
We're going to have audio books and then eventually we'll have auto-generated mini documentaries based on the books.
So like every book that somebody is creating on our book engine right now might one day, like in the not too different, not too distant future, it could be turned into a three-minute documentary video.
Gosh, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Like automatically while you're sleeping, you wake up like, oh, there's a documentary based on the book.
I mean, everybody listening and watching, just imagine next December when we have year-end, you know, show what's going to happen over in 2026.
It's just been so crazy this year.
Seriously, I mean, I will entirely suspend my disbelief that there will not be just the greatest amount of astonishment over this next year of everything that's going to happen in our lives.
That is true.
The coming year is going to be the most action-packed 12 months of our lifetimes.
It is.
And I'm just glad to be part of the ride, Mike.
No kidding.
Love being your co-host.
I, you know, love this show and I love our viewers.
And I am so grateful that so many of you do book consultations because I get to speak with you, you know, and learning just what awesome people there are out there, Mike.
Yeah, it's amazing.
It's, I mean, I'm so honored and humbled by our audience.
And even though we live in a world of very widespread NPCs and incompetence and now illiteracy.
Not our audience.
Not our audience.
Yeah, we've got the best people.
And so look, we are going to continue to do this show just like we've been doing with amazing great guests and amazing new tech and demonstrations and tools.
So 2026 is going to rock.
Now, we will be taking, I think, the Christmas week off of this show.
So just have patience, folks.
And, you know, we'll regather sometime in January and get it going again.
And we're going to be rocking all the way through 2026.
So stay tuned for more.
And I just got to figure out where to barrel or bury all of those stockings full of silver, Mike.
Bury them under the banana trees.
Yeah.
You know, if I need help with that, I think you even wrote a book on where to write a book on hiding your metals.
Hiding your metals.
It's actually a very good book.
I did an extensive prompt on that one.
I bet.
That's great.
I'd skimmed through the chapters.
Yeah.
But one of the ideas actually is to hide your metals under something that grows quickly, like a tree, like a papaya in your case, grows rapidly.
So does a banana.
And people, you know, thieves don't normally think, oh, the gold must be under the banana tree.
You know, that's not a normal thought.
No.
And if you want the gold, you have to really want it because you're going to have to sacrifice the banana tree to get it.
I like it.
Although bananas are quite resilient, you can dig up the bulb.
Yep.
You know, and move it and get the gold and then put the bulb back in.
And a year later, you know, the banana is good again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When the hurricane decimated my food forest, there was one banana tree that I'm like, screw it.
And I just took my machete and cut it off about waist level.
Yeah.
No, that was the first, and they say this couldn't be done, but there was a little shoot that came out of it like two days later that was like its own little internal middle finger, you know, just one little shoot.
Yeah.
It was it that was that from that shoot, that is what gave the first rack of bananas that we ever had where I cut my finger.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Wow.
Because I just swiped it off after the hurricane.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
The people who installed the food force, they came over and when the shoot was coming up, they did a little video and they're like, and they say this couldn't happen.
Well, and if you bury gold under that banana tree, you can call them golden bananas.
And only our audience will get the joke.
Only our audience will get the joke.
What variety of bananas?
They're golden bananas.
And these are my silver bananas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These are my copper papayas.
I probably want those.
Because I think of fruit as wealth, you know?
That's just explaining to people.
Why'd you call them golden bananas?
Because fruit is wealth.
You know, the NPCs are easy to confuse.
These are not the droids you're looking for.
Oh, goodness.
Well, Mike, I just wish you a Merry Christmas.
And we can't wait to get back together with you on the other side and wish you and your family just a wonderful, wonderful holiday season, my friend.
Well, you too say hi to your wife.
And by the way, I love her voice.
For the first time, both of you together sent me a voicemail and I had never heard her voice before.
Oh, she has an amazing voice.
She does.
It's like, and I've never, I've never seen her.
I've never met her, but her voice is really awesome.
Did you like voice shop for, you know, for the right partner?
Like, how did you match up with such a great voice wife?
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
You know, she's Russian, but the typical Russian voice, you think of a vanka trump, you know, in that hard, you know, but not my wife.
My wife is just melodious.
It's just, it's beautiful.
I mean, I could listen to her talk all day.
Yeah.
Shitch is kind of odd for a husband to just that makes you the dream husband.
He's like, wife, I could listen to you talk all day non-stop.
It would be the greatest thing ever.
That was a great voice message back because that made her day.
Yeah, she's got a great voice.
Yeah.
She pronounces Russian as if it were French or something.
Yeah, right.
It's really smooth Russian.
I don't know how to, whatever.
Yeah.
I'm not hitting on your wife by the, I'm just saying.
I know.
I just, I really, I'm enamored by her amazing voice.
It's just last week with the chef wasn't a gay moment either.
So you know.
But you know, our editor turned that into a kind of a semi-gay moment.
Did you see that?
Oh, my goodness.
That was funny.
That was, that was, that was spot.
He actually, my editor, he sent me that clip before we posted it and he asked me, did I make this too gay?
And I said, no, it's just gay enough.
It's perfectly gay.
It's perfectly gay.
You didn't overgay it.
Yeah.
And everybody, you have not watched our decentralized TV episode with the chef last week.
Man, you have to go watch it just for the gay moment, if not anything else.
And that's pretty early in the interview, so you won't miss it.
Very early.
Yeah.
Very early in the interview.
Yeah.
It came out of the closet early.
Don't spend the whole interview in the closet.
Just come on out.
Oh, goodness.
It's a whole new world.
Okay.
Well, to all of you viewers, we wish you a Merry Christmas and a happy set of holidays as well.
And we love you.
And thank you for being you because you're you, we're able to be us.
So there you go.
Yes.
Thank you.
Well said.
Thank you, Todd.
Ending that on a serious and very authentic note.
Yes.
Thank you all for watching and thank you for your support.
And we'll be back after the first of the year with the next episode of Decentralized TV.
Until then, sign up for the email list at decentralize.tv and you'll receive a book token and then you can have a blast making books.
You could call them all belly fat something.
Yeah.
A hundred versions of belly fat books or whatever.
No, no, you use the token wisely to do something that you want to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And have fun with it.
And thank you for watching.
And take care, everybody.
Thank you, Todd.
All right, everyone.
Cheers.
All right.
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