Dr. Tau Braun: Vaccines, Bioweapon Science, and the Hidden Role of Copper in Immune Collapse
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When the pandemic first started and it didn't match biology, and when my clients were calling me and asking me, you know, Doc, is this a bioweapon? And I had to give them an answer, and very quickly I said it is.
Essentially, the spike protein is a replicating version, a glycopro protein version of VX.
And VX, the only reason that its name is VX, is it's Nazi technology and it's called Agent Venomous X.
They had synthesized and replicated a chemical, a organophosphate version of snake venom.
Welcome to today's interview here on Bration.com.
We're going to be joined by one of the key people who had some of the earliest warnings about the dangers of the mRNA jabs and also some of the best solutions for saving lives and protecting people from these engineered bioweapons that were designed to maim and kill.
And so our guest today is Dr. Tal Braun, and his website is drtalbraun.com.
And that's just d-r-t-a-u-b-r-a-u-n.com.
It's been a few months since we've spoken, but welcome back, Dr. Braun.
It's an honor to have you back on.
I really appreciate all your work.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What a pleasure it is to see you again, Mike.
And just thank you for the ongoing work that you've been doing, the just continued dedication to the truth.
And I think that as the six-year mark comes on this, I think one of the most important things people can do is actually realize that they need to start picking aside.
They need to draw that sand in the line and they need to really, really follow those that are 100% committed to the truth, not trying to please anybody, not trying to please the politics, just simply staying on point in terms of this world needs people that are willing to be truthful all the time.
Yeah, I completely agree, of course.
And one of the truths that's now coming out is the link between vaccines and autism.
And of course, all the doctors, the mainstream pediatricians and vaccine pimps, they're losing their minds over the fact that anybody is questioning their cult of scientism or whatever you want to call it.
But talk to us about what's happening right now with the uncovering of the truth about vaccines and autism and even a few little points of good news from RFK Jr. and HHS, although it's small, but it's something.
It's moving in the right direction.
What's your take?
Yeah, so I think it's important that people see sort of where my background comes in in terms of how I made a breakthrough, what I think is a very, very big breakthrough in terms of the autism vaccine link.
And so I think it's important to go way back and know that probably a part that a lot of people don't know about me is that my very first job at 15 years old, beyond chores around the house, was vaccinating babies.
I donated my time on weekends.
I would go with med students out of a university in South Africa and I would join those med students and we would take a van and we would go out to this clinic in a region in South Africa called Muldersdrift.
And one of the biggest things that I did there at that time, just out of necessity, a need in those communities with volunteers showing up is that I would get assigned the task often on a Saturday to vaccinate babies.
Some of them might have come in for another medical emergency like dehydration.
And so we also used to pull them out of the line and triage, right?
So a lot of what I ended up doing as a professional in terms of emergency management and public health, a lot of that core knowledge came from very, very early informative years of sort of building an understanding of what the full system looked like.
And I remember at the time, one of the things that struck me as sort of core knowledge on the vaccine topic is, you know, even at 15, especially with the giant responsibility of vaccinating babies, I remember how long they spent training me and making sure that I was aspirating the needle, that I knew exactly where that needle needed to go.
They explained the dangers of any of those substances getting into a blood vessel.
They explained the importance of just making sure that the vaccine was given correctly.
And then, of course, the pandemic came along.
And especially here in the States, there'd been pre-pandemic, there'd been a huge change, mostly, I think, out of not wanting to waste a second's worth of time.
And so doctors and nurses and medical professionals and pharmacists that have been giving out vaccines are no longer taught to aspirate.
And so that was also a big eye-opener for me in terms of how just reckless vaccines have become.
And just some of the basics that were taught to me back then, it just struck me of how some of those were left out.
Well, and also importantly, it used to be doctors were taught you never vaccinate expectant mothers.
And they were taught that vaccines can carry risks, not just at the injection site, but systemically.
And today, it's become a religion among those pushing the vaccines just like vaccines are the answer to everything.
You don't have an immune system until we inject you with one.
That we should vaccinate you when you are acutely sick, which doesn't even make any sense in the mainstream vaccination theory.
It makes no sense at all, but that's the way it's pushed.
It's like a new form of magic.
It's not science.
It's been a form of magic for as far back as I can trace to early attempts of what would have been called primitive vaccines back in Egyptian days, where they were taking pathogens and antigens, and they were essentially blowing it into the nose.
And ultimately, I think one of those mishaps potentially led to the plague.
And a big guidance for me around my pandemic response has been actually looking at the story of Exodus and the plague and the Passover.
That was the easiest way that I could find viable solutions to plague, to the idea that something has happened where people have been poisoned and what would some of those solutions look like.
And so, yeah, the magic of it, if you think back even to the biblical stories of sort of what we've now seen, the fight over what vaccines should be and which companies can hold them.
I mean, you go back to early scripture and you see sort of arguments happening between Moses and Pharaoh.
And Moses says, well, I've got this one universal approach.
And Pharaoh's people are like, no, well, my 10 snakes are better than your one snake.
And you can see how much of that is now still prevalent in the background of pharmaceuticals.
And especially as it relates to venom.
People just don't realize how far this has gone back.
Yeah, I mean, even in Deuteronomy, God teaches you're not supposed to ingest the blood of other animals, but look at what goes into vaccines.
It's the cow, the pig, the African green monkey kidneys festering blood and tissue and serum.
Plus, you know, on top of that, then aborted human fetal tissue.
It is so anti-God or anti-Christ, if you want to say New Testament, but it's anti-God.
The entire vaccine industry, from a biblical perspective, would have to be classified as satanic, period.
Yeah, I agree completely.
Just the idea of the element of witchcraft to it and the idea of putting all of these poisons together and stirring up this pot of toxins.
And then there's this great cartoon that I often post online on X where Calmet, one of the earliest vaccinologists, there's a picture of him stirring up all the different venoms from different snakes that he collected after a flood and into shit.
I mean, into E. coli, which is the same way that they're making it now.
And there's this old cartoon from back in the day.
Now, Calmet was involved in formulating the BCG vaccine.
And people took his work.
And when they first tested it out, I mean, they killed a horrific number of children.
I don't remember exactly how many it was, but it was double digits that the first attempt of actually using that in a scalable way and the same way as we see now, it killed children.
And so you're 100% right that there's this element of magic and witchcraft and sorcery.
And quite frankly, also just the secrecy.
They use very strange technical terms.
The science is all hidden.
Moderna, for example, has a long history.
People can go back and look at the articles.
When Moderna was doing its early work and pioneering anti-cancer gene therapies, there's articles that claim how secret that work was and how tight their NDAs were and also just how horrific the working conditions were.
Once you're dabbling in that stuff and once you have psychopaths running it, you're going to have people that are within that system that find themselves in this, essentially in a witch's factory.
And they don't know necessarily what they've signed up for, but they certainly know what threat there is in their life if they try and leave it.
An interesting part of the Moderna story that not a lot of people spend time on is Derek Rossi, who's the co-founder of Moderna.
And just have a look at the stream of companies that he started after he left Moderna, I think in 2015.
And they're all gene therapy.
He's got an anti-venom company.
They are anti-cancer.
They're all the things that the vaccine caused.
And like everybody else, I mean, he's now so wealthy from bringing out these poisons.
And there's no science in being able to predict what they can do if the research is showing you what it's going to do.
And then you build companies based on solving the problem that you're going to cause.
There's no intelligence in that.
It's just pathology.
It's a psychopath's dream.
The great segue on all of this, Mike, is that I think what I've done over here with vaccines is that I didn't intend to look into vaccines more than I had done over 20 years ago when I first came to the States.
I set up a wellness center with a chiropractor in Miami that was a fully integrated wellness center.
We had chiropractors working alongside acupuncturists, massage therapists.
didn't start out as being somebody that was anti-vaccine.
I started out as somebody very, very skeptical of the so-called anti-vax side, even to the point that I think that that's part of the problems I ran into with my partner at the time, who was a chiropractor who specialized in neurology.
And she was seeing a lot of vaccine injured children.
And I don't think I saw the full picture.
I was very much still had a traditional approach and understanding of vaccines.
I was one of those people that thought that they were this sort of miracle cure that had eradicated disease around the planet.
Embarrassingly, I can tell you, I even went to a workshop where they covered Andrew Wakefield's work.
And I remember doing exactly what people do with people like Wakefield's work, where I say, well, isn't it because that we're diagnosing autism more often now?
And I sat, I remember just thinking, and I'm sure there's actually like video footage of me being so obnoxious in that room and quite frankly, just not being open to the information.
So I think I've come a long way.
The important thing is that you have the humility and the presence of mind to be able to assess new information and to upgrade your knowledge and your conclusions based on that new information.
And that process is indicative of the scientific method or what we might just call learning.
Whereas what we have today is a class of arrogant pricks who call themselves doctors, who are absolutely unwilling to learn, who are themselves ignorant, and who are really child mutilators.
And they are incapable of learning anything new.
They're just indoctrination, biological skin bag, pharmaceutical vending machines, you know, the pediatricians, et cetera.
So this is what sets you apart from those people.
And occasionally, somebody from the mainstream doctor's group will get red-pilled and they'll start to challenge things and question things.
But that's it's, I mean, you're an expert in psychology as well.
And isn't it true that the only way to get through medical school is to be a conformist, period, at that time?
Yeah, but not only do you have to be, but it's selected for that.
So fast forward, I landed up going to a high school in between that was very, very wealthy kids that had access to incredible resources and the arts and TV production.
And what I learned from that is I learned opportunity.
I learned what it is when people have an entrepreneurial drive.
I learned what it is for people to have the space where they're not bogged down by daily chores.
Everything is done for them.
And they literally, if they want to and if they motivated, that freedom allows them to think through problems, to solve situations, and ultimately to invest in all kinds of things, both good and bad.
But it was those kids and those parents that truly showed me what the other side of the world looks like, right?
The elite, the elite side of the world for most people, not everybody, but for most people, the elite side of the world is sort of a door that you never go and see in terms of how they live, how they think, what they spend their time on.
Those basics were very eye-opening for me.
Well, now, and the elite side of the world today is trying to kill the rest of the world because it's very clear that, for example, these mRNA jabs, these are engineered bioweapons.
They're intended.
I mean, I even saw a video from Michael Yeden, former VP of Pfizer, saying these are nerve agents.
These are designed as nerve agents.
And it's not quite VX nerve gas, which would kill people instantly or very quickly.
It's more of a slow kill nerve agent that can cause systemic inflammation and genetic alteration, neurological damage, et cetera.
But you, I mean, first of all, can you speak to that?
That these are weapons.
This is why I love you.
And I love the fact that you'll give me a space to talk there.
That's my work, right?
I mean, I don't know if, you know, I haven't seen that from Yaden, but my progression through this was when the pandemic first started and it didn't match biology.
And in a couple of places, you could find doctors like Kyle Saddell in New York City speaking up.
And he confirmed the stuff that I had worked through right at the beginning of first quarter of 2020, where just in the first month alone, and when my clients were calling me and asking me, you know, Doc, is this a bioweapon?
And I had to give them an answer.
And very quickly I said it is.
And then doctors like Kyle Saddell were trying to get the word out that this wasn't matching anything that people were saying, that it wasn't matching a viral respiratory disease.
So the two things I looked at immediately from a bio, from biowarfare, the side of things was that this matched BX and it also matched anthrax.
I mean, one of the things that I just couldn't understand is where were my people, you know, where were the instructions for anybody to go out and check surfaces and look for anthrax.
I mean, the symptoms of sublethal amounts of anthrax absolutely match what was bringing people into ERs with COVID.
And so I was looking at it from a completely different lens.
I wasn't looking at it as viral.
I wasn't looking at it that the transmission was happening in some sort of, you know, matching some sort of epidemiological model.
I was like, no, this is not happening at all.
What actually the data is showing, even in 2020, that they're hotspots and that those hotspots aren't traveling like a regular virus.
You're not getting viral spread.
And so my work culminated in, I would say, just within the last year, where I actually named the spike.
I named it this spike protein.
I named it spike protein VX.
It is VX in its VX in itself is a chemical and it's an organic compound.
And it's in a different class of nerve agents.
But essentially, the spike protein is a replicating version, a glycopro protein version of VX.
And VX, the only reason that its name is VX is it's Nazi technology and it's called agent venomous X.
They had synthesized and replicated a chemical, a organophosphate version of snake venom.
And so VX is snake venom.
It is powdered, dried up chemical snake venom.
And the reason that you need a lot more of it than the spike protein is its size.
It's bigger as a molecule.
And you also, because it just doesn't have a replicating function, you cannot get it into people's own biology and have those molecular switches trigger and have the biology, the person replicate more of that substance.
That's part of the genius, the evil genius of what the spike protein is capable of doing.
So hold on a second.
So this, I mean, it's amazing what you're sharing with us here, but it also helps explain why some of the anti-venom protocols are working so effectively against the vaccine damage and so-called long COVID, which is just long-term vaccine damage, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And part of that is where I started looking at the importance of copper, for example.
And we spoke about that previously.
I started looking at zinc.
People like Zelenko had highlighted, everybody had known his protocol and he highlighted zinc.
I even had a phone call with him while he was in Europe just shortly before he died.
And part of what I was trying to do is try and tell him, Dr. Zelenko, your protocol is correct.
But if people are going to be on this for any amount of time, they're going to end up being copper deficient.
And then there's symptoms that are going to match respiratory systems and immune compromise systems and blood issues and cancers essentially is going to come from copper deficiency.
And so I try to have that conversation with him.
Obviously, he was going through a really hard time himself.
And I don't think, I think for a lot of people, I just think that copper is misunderstood.
I think that the damage got done.
When we talked about the earliest forms of vaccinology, we should also look at what happened when Moses brought out the solution as an anti-venom, as an anti-plague.
He brought out brass.
Essentially, he brought out a brass rod, and that brass rod is what's needed as an antimicrobial in the body.
When you have zinc and copper in sufficient amounts, your body will sort it out in terms of a ratio.
And the make it or break it enzyme for what people will call COVID or COVID vaccine injury is SAD1, which is copper.
It's a copper-zinc super mutase dioxide.
It's essentially what your body needs to fight that level of oxidative stress.
You cannot do disease or trauma, whether it's a car crash, a drowning.
It's in my opinion, and I like the fact that you give me freedom to talk about a wide range of topics, but it's my opinion why the Last Supper is highlighted in terms of Jesus' story.
If somebody came to me today and told me that I was going to have to survive a crucifixion, what I would do is I would replicate all of the nutritional needs in high quantities from the Passover plate.
And that is how you would survive essentially a crucifixion, which is a drowning that creates that level of oxidative stress on the body.
And if you have a look at how interesting it is, in a scientific way, it also explains resurrection, because if you don't have those nutritional substances in your body available for that level of trauma, you will succumb to it.
But if you do have it, it's the same as somebody being able to pull through a horrific coma.
Well, I'm not going to open up the can of worms about that you just mentioned with the crucifixion and the resurrection because biblical scholars will debate that all day.
But I will say cheers with my copper cup.
Yeah, probably copper was used a lot, perhaps even at the Last Supper.
And now, when you talk about copper, and I want to focus back on copper, when you talk about copper, it's not just the inorganic elemental form of copper.
It's copper that's part of another molecule.
And so that people understand, for example, chlorophyll is surrounding a magnesium element, just like hemoglobin is surrounding an iron element.
And there are many different molecules that can have a copper core.
So talk to us about the different types of copper, different variations of copper-based molecules or structures that are important for us to know about for human health.
Well, I think the important thing is you just said it.
So copper makes up the scaffolding of so much, right?
So big and small in the human body, copper is involved in transportation, in keeping balance in immune function.
But essentially, it is a, either things are going to wrap around it just based on its size.
It's a big atom.
It has an extra positive charge on it.
And so it's attractive to be able to bond with electrons that are needing positivity, right?
They're needing that proton.
And as well as that, is that it forms a lattice.
It's able, this is why you've got a copper cup.
It is able to bond together and you're able to beat it down and to create a sheet of it.
And so the body does the same.
I mean, we are essentially electrochemical.
And so it's in all of our wiring.
I mean, it's the nervous system.
We are no different than, you know, if somebody opened up a circuit board and you're going to see copper used in its various forms in different ways in the body.
Our own tests, the way that we look at copper right now, is very, very superficial and very basic in that a doctor can say, well, your copper levels are fine because it's in your plasma.
But what does that mean?
Is it bound correctly?
Do you have enough zinc in the places that that copper is needed to go?
Is that copper only high in your plasma because you've got inflammation?
And so if you're losing it from other places and your levels are high, that's worthless in terms of knowing that that level is sufficient if it's pulled from the hair, if it's pulled it from bone, if it's pulled it from the immune system.
So it really needs a deeper understanding of that the body itself is going to take care of those ratios and it's going to put it where it needs.
And it is only through the extreme stress, our environmental stress, EMF, COVID vaccines, any vaccine diseases, that that ratio, that beautiful ratio between especially copper and zinc, is going to become noticeable.
And then you're going to be able to tie that to pretty much every disease and symptom and response, whether it is in venomation, whether it's Lyme disease, I mean, all of it.
It comes down to a fundamental level of understanding, not just copper.
I mean, I've focused a lot on copper.
I appreciate you bringing up copper, but really is about the minerals in our body, the channels that operate.
I'm sitting on an email that I need to post one of these days where right at the beginning, before I got thrown out of the venom toxin community for asking the right questions, one of the emails I have is somebody saying, something that, you're right, Dr. Braun, we're looking at this.
I'm working with, what's his name, Barney Graham, on whether a spike protein is affecting calcium channels.
Well, of course it is, right?
And it's going to take them, they're going to drip out this information.
They're going to hold on to sick people for as long as they can before they actually solve any of these problems because it's highly profitable.
By the way, the thing that got me kicked out of the Venom community, and I was on there, I was on a committee for an international conference on venom and toxins.
And they kicked me out for starting to ask questions about the cysteine in the spike protein and also about the venom homologues and how significant they were.
And also, if we weren't, if by that stage, if the venom community was saying, well, this is not venom, then me as a person just entering into that field and asking questions as a scientist, then I wanted to know from them, then what are we supposed to call it?
If the sequences are there, but they and it's not venom in terms of it's not a colony of element and it's not full sequences, then I didn't have the right words.
I didn't know whether I'm supposed to be calling it a homologue, an analog, a transcript, a short peptide.
That was for them to be able to fill in the gaps because that's their work.
The fact that they never have should be very telling for people, just in terms of the relationship that they have between the venomics community and pharmaceuticals.
Their funding in the labs comes from the pharmaceutical industry.
They supply the pharmaceutical industry with sequences that then go into libraries.
And then you have giant companies like Backham in Switzerland that then keep these libraries and they stock sequences and sell those sequences around the world.
Little segue, are you open to a segue, Mike, that's related to that?
But also, yeah, but hold on.
I wanted to bring up the website of a company called Venom Venom Tech.
Oh, wow.
Their site's not there anymore.
Well, that shouldn't be surprising.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Okay, but anyway, the cash information, Venom Tech, bridging the gap between cosmetic peptides, products, biodiversity, et cetera, whatever.
For some reason, the website's not working right now.
Just go to Baccham if you can.
B-A-C-H-E-M, just do a search on Baccham as a company.
I track the net worth of the owner.
It's a family-based company.
And I just tracked the billions that he started making from 2019 onwards.
There we go.
Backham.
Yeah.
Okay.
They're the largest supplier.
This is their world.
They are the largest library and supplier and manufacturer of transcripts, of essentially what I've started calling analogs.
They are short-chain.
They are short-chain peptides that are only functional.
This is the part that has been really, really taxing on me in terms of even the Maha movement and so-called people that are health freedom people that are supposedly scientists.
It should have never been my job or Dr. Artis's job to explain this to anybody.
They've got much, much further of a background and the right words to describe these processes.
The thing that they never do is they, I think it's some form of academic stupidity, what I call accatards.
They are not able to do what probably you and most of your audience can do.
They're not necessarily hands-on people that can fix things.
And if they don't have the right tool, they can't improvise.
And they're not willing to take their critical thinking out of their comfort zone.
And one of the biggest things that I've been able to do, and I think I'm probably at the moment the most proficient person at being able to do this, is really just look at the functional homology of the spike protein.
But you talked about in terms of a nerve agent.
The nerve agent is only one aspect of it.
But my triple threat framework has been built to explain that what is happening with the spike protein is that it is highly pathological because it is essentially built to be the key for three main systems in the human body, hibernation, torpor, invanimation, and pregnancy immune tolerance.
And lately, I've been using leaving out the word pregnancy because ultimately it's a form of immune tolerance that is also related to hibernation.
And of course, it can occur in males too.
But really, very, very briefly, what that is, is that when you look at what's happening with people with long COVID and vaccine injury, which I blur together because we don't have sufficient data to know one way or another what that looks like in terms of how much is one versus the other, or if only vaccine injury actually exists.
I think that there is long COVID, but I suspect most of that was poisoning.
I suspect most of that was nerve agent.
Spike protein can be released just like VX.
I've tracked a paper that I will bring out or an article that I will bring out is I have looked at wastewater samples pre-Wuhan.
I've looked at wind patterns.
There are a couple of hotspots that show the potential of a purpose-forward aerosolized release and then the repercussions of what that would look like that drove people into a hospital with a mysterious unknown disease, which happened from about mid-year onwards in 2019, from about July onwards, you start seeing this uptick of the same thing that we now know as vaccine injury.
You start seeing that roll out in a aerosolized, a very, very low transmissible race.
One of the biggest lies of the pandemic is this belief of how easily COVID or SARS-CoV-2 can transmit from one person to another.
Yeah, the five-foot rule, right?
Right.
I mean, the chances of somebody breathing it in and having problems with it is very high.
A sublethal dose, you need much, much less of it than VX to create the same issues.
And I'm talking about sublethal.
Both of them in high quantities would kill and they'd kill instantly.
And if the footage out of China that we saw was valid, which I don't know if it was made up or not, or propaganda, but if that footage is real, what you're seeing is spike protein in clouds.
And essentially, when I say a cloud, Brownian motion holding together this very, very intense spike protein-rich air that somebody would pass through and literally knock them to the ground and potentially kill them, give them a heart attack.
It would be on a less than sublethal dose, it just matches disease.
But on a very high level of dose, it's much, much more powerful than VX.
But it doesn't transmit well, right?
So the transfection part is key, which is why they needed the injectables.
But to seed it, they would need to be able to seed it in a way that there could be a claim that there's a pandemic.
And then obviously then we needed the claim that we needed a military response, right?
A counter-biodefense response to what they claimed was a pandemic rather than.
Go ahead.
It's important for people to understand there are really two different biological weapons at work here.
One biological weapon is actually aerosolized and sprayed on populations in places like New York City or sprayed into the air in the subways or wherever in order to create symptoms that have people panic and go to the hospital so they can create the COVID pandemic narrative of injury and of deaths.
And importantly, some of the most prominent symptoms there were indicative of nerve or VX nerve gas type poisoning, which is loss of smell and loss of a sense of taste, right?
So those are big clues right there that these are nerve agents, period.
And then that was designed to drive people into the vaccines, which was a different set of biological depopulation weapons to be injected into people.
So we're really talking about a binary weapon theater.
Yes.
And also that the fact that it is the same substance, you don't need a different substance.
The one is an aerosolized form in a higher dose, and that's spike protein.
I've always claimed right from early 2020, I wasn't a virologist and I looked at this and I said, there's no viral components needed for this.
There is early data immediately in 2020 that let you know that just the spike protein alone was highly toxic.
And so I just started looking at it differently.
And just like you just translated, to make this into a depopulation tool that would go from being something that's noticeable in terms of if you're using aerosolized amounts and if you're using wind, you can only get away with that and seeding hotspots.
And by the way, Operation C-Spray and other federal CIA programs, I mean, they've tested this, right?
I mean, they've tested this.
Yeah, we've documented this.
Exactly, right?
So they've done like 100 experiments on U.S. prisoners, on soldiers, on black people, on civilians in San Francisco.
The one you just mentioned, they sprayed over San Francisco.
They even did one in New York.
They did one in New York during the pandemic.
I remember that.
They said they released the bacteria with tagging on it.
They're doing it all the time.
And they will do it under the guise of biodefense rather than bio warfare.
And it should be very telling for people that we went from, we've had a rebranding, right, of our military.
You know, what's the exact terms?
But we're now, what's the Pentagon's change that we're not a defense program anymore?
We're a war.
We forget the exact phrase that you use, but we're now in the business of war.
We're not in the business of defense, right?
Which ultimately, if you have a look at the triggering points of that, you're talking about the start of that happening in 2019, where we technically attacked in a non-biodefense way.
We were the aggressor.
We were the predator in terms of releasing this and then following it up with a claim that we needed biodefense.
Well, yeah, and importantly, this is war against our own people.
So this is our own governments waging war against us.
Yeah.
And I think for a lot of people, I think what you fortunately, most people are built in a way where psychologically they're not necessarily capable of the most evil thoughts or the most evil plans.
And thank goodness for that, right?
I mean, there's enough bad stuff that happens in the world with people that are capable of it.
But what it does is people are just not psychologically and cognitively prepared to put themselves in the mindset of a perpetrator.
And the idea, I guess, an easier way that people could understand what that means when we say they're at war with us, people say, well, why would they be at war with us?
I think an easier way for people to understand what this war looks like in terms of depopulation is that we have essentially elected and not elected people across the planet to manage us no differently than animals in a safari park.
You know, when we when we take away our own individual responsibility and we change government and we embolden corporations.
So we've voted in essentially these corporations and then our politicians are supposed to just represent us, right?
They're supposed to go and say, I represent X amount of people and they voted this way and therefore I'm voting on their behalf in this room.
You know, they've given me vested power to be able to say yay because they want this vote to go through.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but there's, I would submit there's a much easier explanation for all of this, which is that every Western government is financially insolvent unless they figure out how to eliminate the vast majority of the retirees and the pensioners and those who are collecting entitlements.
And especially with the rise of both AI agents and then AI robots over the next few years, mass displacement of human workers into the unemployed category, which will eventually require universal basic income, some kind of payment, which actually Besant and Trump have announced that the first payment begins in 2026.
It's going to be, they call it the tariff dividend.
No, it's just UBI chapter one.
So the only way for these Western governments to stay solvent is to eliminate the people that are collecting all of these benefits and who are not themselves contributing either the cognitive labor or the physical labor to the economy because that's going to be replaced by machines.
I mean, that's a very simple explanation, not difficult for people to understand once they realize that that's true.
Yeah, but you understand it and you've got the ego strength and you've got the you're, I think part of the difference is that for a lot of people, they are very self-protective, right?
It goes back to the very point of the very beginning of my conversation where you said, well, at least I've got the ability to correct myself, a form of learning.
A lot of people have not got the capacity or never been given some form of either permission or encouragement to be self-corrective in that way.
It's higher level functioning, even to the point where what you're really asking for is no different from animals that are destined for the slaughterhouse.
And people can't comprehend the same way as an animal doesn't sit while they're grazing, whether they're free grazing or whether they're in a tiny enclosure.
They're in such basic survival mode that the last thing that they're contemplating is how things are going to end for them and why their friends are no longer there.
And that's where we're at now.
I mean, people are just dropping dead around human beings and it's not noticeable for two reasons.
One, you just highlighted one reason.
When you pick up a phone now and you're trying to do something online with a corporation, a healthcare system, customer service, you're not dealing with a human being for the most part.
And so people are not realizing that the death toll is happening all around them because they're not being told that no one can answer the phone because they just lost 20 employees in the last year that are now dead.
Nobody notices because the phone is still being answered.
And the other trick to all of this is that you won't notice it physically in two ways.
You won't notice physical loss if there's replacement.
And this is where the immigration factor comes in.
When you bring in people, you've got bodies and those bodies are moving around the same spaces as us.
They're human beings.
We're seeing them.
They're renting apartments.
They're shopping, you know, otherwise, we would be in a ghost town, right?
We would be feeling go ahead.
And I would point out that the biggest wave of immigration now is machines.
So, I mean, I don't know if you want to call them immigrants, but it's no longer going to be the South American immigrants taking the farm jobs in America.
It's going to be the automated systems.
It's going to be the robots.
And right now, it's the cognitive machines that are taking away the desk jobs, especially customer support jobs are already completely obsolete at this point, utterly obsolete.
And by the way, I mean, I would rather talk to an AI agent to get my customer service problem solved as a customer than to talk to a human because then I don't have all the wait time.
If I can talk to a machine right now that can competently solve my problem, I prefer that as a customer.
But those people who are displaced, the reason the global elite want to kill them is because they don't have enough new jobs for them to go into, and they don't want a lot of unemployed, hungry people rising up with social revolts all over the world.
So it's a massive kill operation.
This, and I know you get this, and my audience gets this, but the mainstream doesn't get it.
And I recently put out a book called The Cost of Ignorance.
And seriously, folks, there's no excuse.
If you don't realize this, and if you don't prepare for what's coming, you probably will not survive what's happening.
So the cost of ignorance is your life at this point.
And that's why being informed is so critical.
Tao, we are just about out of time here.
Oh, boy, we were supposed to cover something really big.
And I'd like to, do we have to?
Yeah, we're not totally out of time.
Go ahead with that last topic, but we've only we've got we've got like five minutes, so jump right into it.
That's perfect because the concept that I want to cover with you as it relates to vaccines and autism is actually surprisingly simple.
And it's going to be for a lot of people, it's going to be one of those moments why like this is too simple to be believable for some, for others, they're going to be like, why didn't I think of that?
And I think what you're going to see once I put out this paper, I think you're also going to see, just like with the Venom work, I think you're going to get a lot of pushback because it highlights just such a simple, a simple, simple problem with the vaccines.
I'm just trying to pull up my notes over here because I don't want to leave anything out, especially if we're going to do this in a very concise way.
But ultimately, here's what I've discovered with vaccines.
Almost all vaccines, here's what I can do it in a quick QA question.
Mike, you know a lot about vaccines and you know about a lot about the adjuvants in them.
You know what the substance that's found in all of them consistently is?
Well, straight off the bat.
Okay, aluminum always comes up, right?
Because it's a really wonderful distraction because the thing that's in all of them is sugar.
Oh, wow.
That's interesting.
So here's my hypothesis, right?
I have looked at, so this comes from a couple of different sides to my sciences.
I am drawing from the most basic stuff that's taught to psychologists and to psychology students.
I'm drawing from purely conditioning, Havlov style conditioning theory.
And I'm drawing from their work that I've been doing on homology.
And I am drawing on The mostly what helped me to conceive this hypothesis is I'm drawing from a threat assessment threat management model, which I just don't think has been done from vaccines for vaccines before.
So, what this model is called, it's called the glycan antigen conditioning model, right?
Glycan antigen conditioning model.
And very simply, right, because my article will highlight all of the mechanisms in here, but very, very simply, what I've built is a risk assessment-based model that explains that the problem is, and I'm just getting to my notes here.
Here's the core hypothesis.
All right, so the vaccine sugars, which are essentially glycans, like sucrose and trehalose, they paired with toxin-like antigen sequences to create a false pavlovian immune memory.
So, you have a system where you train the body that sugar is dangerous, right?
That's as simple as it is.
You're taking an antigen, right?
And so, whether it is attenuated, whether it's live, whether it's a copy, it doesn't matter.
The body knows it as an antigen and it has impact on the body, right?
It has side effects.
It's going to be read by the body as a threat.
Now, when you pair that threat with sugar, right, then essentially what you've got is the same model as a Pavlovian dog.
You are training the immune system that every time that that immune system sees sugar, alarm bells go off and create a response, a highly threatened state.
This explains the autoimmune disorder response.
There we go.
Right.
So, I'll give you some key factors to this in terms of what this looks like.
So, what happens is you have a memory created, a Pavlovian-style immune memory, sugar equals danger, leading to the cytokine-driven microglial pruning and autism regression in three to five days.
So, the immune system is a primitive learner.
T cells form associated memory, all right?
So, you have your conditioned stimulus, which is sugar, you have your unconditioned, which is your toxin, and then via epigenetic locks, which predate the brain, you have no neurons needed for this, right?
These are, this is like, this is the equivalent of like when you test the human body for reflexes.
You have a primitive, um, very early learning system.
And in fact, part of my paper translates this into AI language to help people understand this from a non-biological side, that this is just a learning system.
And I know you're very, very proficient in AI.
So, this model is going to make sense to you just in terms of training a system.
And when that system is mistrained, it's going to create the reaction that you weren't purposefully trying to train for.
So, here's the interesting thing: the thymus for me was the organ that was left out of the entire discussion of the pandemic.
And it was really bothering me that the thymus gland to this day is just got no attention in terms of how deeply it is involved in the immune system.
The thymus gland, like on an MRI, is not going to look like a human brain at all.
But when you cut it open, an interesting part about the thymus gland is it's a brain.
It's divided into lobes, just like our brain.
It changes over time, it shrinks over time, and it is essentially a very, very primitive brain and an immune and the controller of immune memory.
You've got bilateral lobes, they mimic the hemispheres, and the left lobe that boosts your T cells, your T regs.
So, part of the immune system is to dampen the response, right?
And so, you have these things called T regs.
You've got the right side of the thymus gland, and that right side favors effectors, things like the cytokine.
So, it has to be balanced, right?
You've got this left-right balance where you have the ability for a system that can turn on the tap, and part of the system turns off the tap.
So, you have your cytokines that are needed, and then another system that's going to dampen the damage that those cytokines are going to do.
When you have failure, you have essentially lateralized imprint leading to attacks on the left brain, which are your social circuits.
So, that's why you see in autism, you have issues.
And then it's also going to, I'm not going to go into the details, but it's also, because of the bilateral part of the thymus gland, it's also going to mimic what's happening in the brain.
And so, you're going to have pruning going on in the areas like Broca Center, which is the language center, which is why these kids and these babies lose verbal ability.
Hold on.
This is also, many of us have noticed, and again, we're almost out of time.
We need to wrap this up, but many of us have noticed that adults who receive the COVID jabs suffered the loss of job skills, in some cases, the loss of language skills.
I mean, there was clearly actual brain damage taking place in many of them.
Is this why?
It's part of the reason why.
This particular paper, I've been very, very specific on the response, especially to the childhood vaccines.
But of course, the spike protein is a glycoprotein.
It's even worse in terms of the damage and the mechanisms with adults.
But there is similarity.
You can see some of that similarity play out functionally, right?
The loss of taste and smell, the changes in people in terms of what they can and can't eat, what's triggering them.
I had a discussion with somebody on X last night who DM'd me.
And, you know, something that I picked up that we even covered years ago in one of these interviews is that she recently started eating dairy again.
And she's now having heart issues in terms of her heart is racing.
And so I said, well, keep a food log because more than likely what's happened is because this spike protein is ubiquitous and we've all been exposed to it.
In those that are genetically at risk, sugars and proteins and fats are going to trigger in a very similar way to what I'm describing here.
They're going to essentially be red, just like your heart would rate for a race for any threat.
Food is now becoming the threat.
In this particular autism model, what is fascinating for me is that it brings in the various things that people have found to be true.
And that there's just worlds of scientific papers on this.
So my risk-based model is not just that the thymus gland is essentially being primed to look out for this threat, like a ringing bell.
It has to be specific to the individual.
So there's genetic risk.
And the biggest risk factor that is not genetic in this is coming from two main parts.
One is from C-sections, and the other is coming from early antibiotic use.
So the gut, the gut is playing a huge role in terms of like, for example, C-sections are going to lead to high levels of zonulin.
And essentially what people are going to call leaky gut, it's going to let it let those antigens slip through, right?
And so you have this combination where you have genetic risk and then you have the various things that we do that are either out of medical necessity or become the way that people have chosen now to give birth,
but not having a vaginal birth and not having that microbe exchange and the development of the gut in terms of being exposed to those microorganisms very early on from that C-section.
That's one factor.
And then that's going to lead to people needing antibiotics.
Well, right, which further destroys the gut microbiome.
So Dr. Braun, we're going to have to wrap it up there.
Let me give out your website again.
It's Dr. Tao Braun.
That's D-R-T-A-U-B-R-A-U-N.
And where can people find this paper that you're referring to?
Are you going to publish it on your site?
Yeah, I'm going to publish it on my site.
I'm going to put it on X.
And what I'm hoping with it, you know, I'd love to do this as a peer-reviewed paper, just like I've got work that I put out in terms of spike protein persistence being produced by fungus.
For another day, we can talk about that, in that the spike protein is actually being produced by fungus in biofilm.
I'm going to put out these two papers.
I hope to get them to the point where they are peer-reviewed and published.
And then, Mike, the thing that I probably should have done at the beginning, but I think that is absolutely crucial to my success of being able to do this work, to put out these papers, is support.
So, one of the things people get frustrated on is they'll say, well, you know, you've got revisions on this paper.
Where are they?
And I say, well, did you know that I'm not working for a big lab somewhere or a university that I'm completely 100% self-funded?
And I rely on support, right?
I rely on support from buy me a coffee and I rely on subscriptions now.
But the thing that I want your audience to hear, because I know this will get lost on a lot of people.
My closing message, I'm trying my best to do what Jesus set out to do when he turned over the money tables.
I do not want information that can save a life or stop a child getting autism.
I do not want to have to find a way to do that in any other way than just put out the information with integrity and to my best ability.
I am avoiding subscriptions.
I am avoiding memberships.
I am avoiding paywalling.
And so my message to people is that the people that resonate with you and it resonate with me, they understand the strength of community.
They understand that it is this kind of work and the work that you do and the truth telling, it goes beyond just putting out fact.
What we're truly doing, I think, is that we are collectively trying to help the people on the planet that are the most human.
Let me give out your website again, drtalbron.com.
And I hope you can post your paper there so people can see it.
And also, what's your Twitter handle so people can follow you there?
Also, same thing.
Just Dr. Tabron, one word, and, you know, they'll find me on X.
Okay, perfect.
And I love your X channel.
I love your posts.
I encourage people to follow you there on X, check out your paper.
And I want to thank you for your time today.
Sorry to cut you off, but we have other engagements that I'm already late for.
But thank you so much.
And we'll talk again soon.
Be well.
Thank you, Mike.
All right.
Take care.
And thank all of you for watching here today.
Hope you found this interview to be very informative and continue to do your research.
Take responsibility for your own health because nobody else has your best interests at heart.
And certainly not the drug companies, not the government, not any government or corporation.
Only you and the people like Dr. Braun and myself and others in the health freedom movement that believe in health freedom and believe in humanity.
So thank you for watching today.
I'm MikeAdams of Brighteon.com.
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