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	Let's get it all right.
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	Alright, welcome to Bright Channel Broadcast News for Monday, September 15th, 2025.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	And if you haven't yet seen it, I have put out an article on natural news.com called A Billion Voices of Truth.
	Mike Adams announces Moonshot mission to empower humanity with hidden knowledge.
	And the reason I mention this is because if you scroll down, my mission statement is put out in three languages now, three different language videos.
	That is uh, let's see, that's Spanish, that's Chinese, and that is Russian.
	Uh unfortunately our content management system can't handle Chinese and Russian uh in terms of the text.
	So you just need to click on the video and then you'll hear it in Spanish and Chinese and Russian.
	And what I'd like to do actually here, uh these these videos are created using AI auto-translation that uses my voice, my voice tone and quality, but of course, uh a language translation into the target language.
	And I'd like to just demo this for you because this is going to be a technology that you will increasingly encounter.
	And you may not know, you may not realize how good this is.
	It's really remarkable, and it's also coming out where it can match the the lip movement as well.
	So I want to show you these examples.
	So first I'm just gonna play a few seconds for you, just so you get the idea.
	We'll do like I don't know, 20 seconds or something in Espanyol.
	Here we go.
	Welcome to all of this.
	Espanol, Chino and Russo.
	Why?
	Because it's a critical moment for the people to communicate with each other, to close the gap of language using modern technology.
	All right, now let's listen to it in Chinese.
	And uh by the way, since I I do speak uh Chinese, but not nearly as well as this video shows.
	Um but I noticed that the pronunciation of the Chinese in this auto translation is very much mainland China, uh, whereas I tend to speak Chinese more like uh Taiwan Chinese style, which does have uh different pronunciation.
	So when when I heard myself in this video speaking mainland Chinese, I was like, whoa, that's funny because I would never say it that way.
	Here we go, check it out.欢迎大家,我叫��克��当斯,我将以三种��言发布这条信息,西班��、中文和��。为什么呢?
	Thank you.
	Anyway, Shenzh should you mean Shanghue Koji Micho Yuan Hong Goda.
	Okay, and then finally we're gonna play some Russian for you.
	This is really interesting for me to hear because of course I don't speak or understand any Russian at all, other than yet.
	So I have no idea what is being said in this.
	Whereas with with Espanol, I can totally track it with Chinese most part, I could track it, but Russian, I've got no idea.
	Check this out.
	Ispanskam, Kitayskam and Ruscom.
	Um criticism, preodolite barriers of technologies.
	Alright, I did pick up the one word there, technology or technologi, uh uh technology.
	I I did catch that one word in Russian.
	Okay, that's good.
	Uh anyway, that technology you're gonna see that a lot more, and uh we will be using it as well to put out important podcasts, and we're gonna be putting out interview highlights in uh different languages, and of course our language set will also expand into Japanese, uh Italian, French, German, uh not not just Spanish, um, maybe Korean at some point.
	I'm not exactly sure, but I know that uh we will definitely be doing Japanese next.
	And some, you know, the other European languages as well.
	So we'll just see how this goes.
	I'd love your feedback.
	And if you prefer to hear some of our content in your own language, if if English is your second language, and I know that's true for a lot of our listeners, then you may really enjoy this format.
	Just remember that it's an automatic translation, it's a machine translation, and sometimes it loses its mind.
	So don't blame me.
	If it says something crazy, it's not my fault.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's hallucinating.
	Okay, now we are going to cover a little bit about the Charlie Kirk situation, just some developments that have happened.
	And I've got some quite a bit of other news on other topics to cover that I I think is really important.
	But in terms of Charlie Kirk, I did put out a survey on X. And I put the survey out because I'm seeing that most people online, at least on X, most people appear to be convinced that Israel is behind this shooting.
	And so I decided to put out a poll, and I gave people four choices.
	Here's the question.
	Based on the information we know so far, who do you think is most likely behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk?
	And by the way, I'm not trying to make light of his death.
	I pray for him, I pray for his family.
	It was a real tragedy.
	It's uh, you know, this is a horrible event that this has happened in the United States.
	I'm not trying to make light of it.
	I'm actually trying to understand who killed Charlie Kirk.
	And I don't think we have the answers yet.
	Anyway, I gave four options, trans activists, Israel, CIA, or someone else.
	Okay, those are the four trans activists, Israel, CIA, or someone else.
	And that's someone joked.
	Trans activists and Israel, that's the same option that they were joking.
	Um, in terms of my audience, with several hundred votes, uh, trans activists turns out to be about 24%.
	Uh Israel gets about 59% support.
	That's, you know, gosh, almost 60% think Israel is behind this.
	Uh the CIA was voted uh 10.6%, and then someone else got 7.6%.
	And these I mean, I'm rounding some of these numbers.
	But anyway, you get the idea.
	So most people, at least in my group, believe that Israel is behind it, uh, even though I have not said conclusively that Israel is behind it, uh, because we don't have evidence that would firmly establish that.
	But we also don't have evidence, any evidence that this Tyler guy was the shooter, and yet he's been arrested, and lots of people online have already decided that he's the shooter, he's the guy, and he needs to be given the death penalty.
	And there's not even a video of him with a gun.
	There's no photo, there's no screen grab that you know, no security footage.
	When he climbed off the roof, he didn't have a gun.
	When he was walking up the stairs on college campus, no gun, no rifle, and no, you can't just walk around with a rifle barrel down your pants very easily.
	And and then there's all this weird stuff about him changing clothes multiple times.
	Maybe I'll play that video for you.
	Anyway, my my point here, and and maybe we'll cover this a little bit later.
	My point is that I don't see any evidence at all that this guy was the shooter.
	Uh do you?
	Other than just the government saying so.
	Government says so, but do you trust do you trust the government?
	Are you kidding me?
	Do you trust the FBI?
	Come on.
	Anyway, we'll come back around to that.
	We've got some other news to cover here.
	I want to show you a really interesting video of a meteor.
	You know how I've studied meteors and we have this three-eye atlas giant space rock hurtling through our solar system right now with a lot of strange characteristics That have a lot of people on alert.
	Anyway, in China, I don't know when this happened.
	It was fairly recent.
	It looks like a meteor was streaking across the sky in the Shandong province, which means Eastern Mountain, by the way, if you're curious about that, the mountains of the East.
	So Shandong province.
	Anyway, this meteor is uh streaking through the sky.
	And there's a apparently there's an automatic anti-air defense system in Shandong province.
	And so the anti-air launched and it took out the meteor.
	Uh so check out this video.
	There's not any really explosion sounds or anything.
	It might have been too far away, but you can see the meteor being struck by anti-air defense.
	So I guess China's anti-air defense systems actually work.
	Check this out.
	And there you go.
	Now that looks to be a pretty sizable meteor.
	And the anti-air defense system didn't really completely obliterate.
	It looks like it it probably fragmented it and set it on fire even more.
	I don't know.
	Probably a lot of smaller pieces still hit the ground.
	Uh, but it it may have saved somebody's house or or car parked in the driveway or something like that.
	Now I want to shift gears here for a second, although this is related to China.
	Do you know the name of the company in China called Cattle or C-A-T-L?
	C-A-T-L.
	They're one of the largest, well, maybe the largest vehicle battery manufacturers in the world.
	They also make electric vehicles.
	So it's an EV battery company that also makes EVs.
	Well, they've just announced, you know, I've been tracking the chemistry of sodium ion batteries.
	Well, they just announced that they have a sodium ion EV battery now that is ready to be rolled out across vehicles.
	Now, currently, lithium ion is the chemistry that's used in EVs, and lithium ion sucks.
	I mean, it's just horrible.
	Lithium ion, you know, it catches fire.
	It doesn't recharge very many times.
	In other words, it doesn't have doesn't support a lot of cycles.
	It doesn't work in a broad temperature range, especially if temperatures get too cold or even too hot in some cases.
	So, you know, lithium ion is bad.
	And I've been waiting for sodium ion in terms of like a sodium ion off-grid system or a grid shifting system to install at uh my laboratory, by the way.
	And it looks like sodium ion is finally beginning to mature.
	Well, check this out.
	So the cattle company, CATL, their new EV battery is half the cost of a lithium-ion battery, okay?
	Half the cost.
	It lasts five times longer in terms of the number of cycles that it supports compared to lithium.
	You know, five times longer.
	And it's hot swappable in your vehicle.
	So this battery is called the Naxtra, N-A-X-T-R-A.
	Naxtra battery.
	And when you drive your car into a station that's equipped to handle this, it'll swap out the battery in three minutes.
	So instead of sitting there for three hours waiting for your vehicle to charge, you swap out the battery and you keep driving.
	It turns out that this battery will outlast the vehicle in many cases.
	And it's not hard to see the economics of this, how it's going to work.
	In the near future, you'll buy a vehicle without a battery, and you'll just use the battery from your last vehicle.
	The battery will outlast the vehicle.
	And of course, you could buy a whole new battery if you want, but these batteries will be things that you take with you when you sell the car.
	You're like, ah, battery's still got you know 10 years on it.
	I'm going to keep the battery and put it in the next car.
	So a battery that is this sodium ion vehicle battery will be more standardized, And it will be an investment that you make for transportation, a battery that can be used in multiple different vehicles.
	Now, I'm not saying that you can manually swap it out.
	It's still very large and heavy, and it requires uh probably a hydraulic lift or something to swap it out, but it is being built with an auto swap feature that only takes about three minutes with the right machinery.
	So very interesting.
	That's a game changer.
	Okay, the next thing I want to mention is about AI and AI agents.
	There have been so many improvements in AI code writing over the last just few weeks.
	It's really astonishing, that I am now running almost all day two different coding agents that are building tools and processing data for our AI engine, but building tools for well, all kinds of things.
	But data pipeline processing for the most part.
	Now, one of the AI agents I'm using is building apps, and this is through a process that's known as vibe coding.
	So if you ever hear the term vibe coding, what it means is writing code without writing code, it means what you're doing is simply writing prompts to build code.
	You're telling an environment or an agent what to build, and then the agent goes off and builds that and tests it and brings you back the results and you know fixes errors and all kinds of things like that.
	So I'm using this extensively now.
	And I want to share with you why this is so important, because for example, over the weekend I built an app for a grand total of about 100 in fees, AI fees, that easily would have cost 10,000 for a human coder to build easily.
	So you know, think about it.
	It's a factor of a hundred times cheaper to build it with AI compared to a human coder.
	And I was able to do it on the weekend, which is great because normally humans don't work on weekends, except for me, I work on weekends, and that's when I want to work with other people, but they're not working because the weekends is when I can get the most stuff done because I don't have all these distractions of you know, day-to-day company stuff.
	So I like to build on the weekends, and so I'm loving the fact that I've got AI agents that I can actually build with, and they're churning for hours and hours and building stuff, doing things.
	It's uh it's it's pretty astonishing.
	Now, what's important to know about this is that I believe these tools are moving ahead so rapidly and they're so advanced now, they're so easy for people to use who are non-coders, that within the next two years, any company that does not have some kind of AI infrastructure,
	uh, you know, of some kind, either writing code or uh analyzing numbers or giving projections or what have you, I think those companies are going to be uh going out of business.
	I think every company is going to have to learn how to use AI, or you will be obsolete.
	In fact, I'm certain of it.
	And that's why I'm working so hard on you know, incorporating AI into what we do.
	Because I want to make sure that we can stick around here for you, and that we can continue to bring you, you know, news and podcasts and everything.
	And so obviously we're gonna use the best technology we can today as part of our pro-human mission, a mission to reach one billion people with decentralized knowledge to bypass censorship.
	Now, if you go back to natural news.com, I've actually then published the details of my uh moonshot mission and kind of how how we're doing it and what's our focus area and all the different training content that we've used for this.
	So it's it's really strong.
	You can check that out at naturalnews.com.
	And I've also posted another article called Why We Need the Charlie Kirk Free Speech Act, a legal shield against the censorship industrial complex.
	And even though I've covered this in the last few days, I wanted to read this for you.
	I'm proposing this law.
	This is different from what Trump is proposing.
	Trump's proposing what he calls the Charlie Kirk Act, uh, which he wants to, I think, censor the corporate media and control what they're allowed to say.
	My version of the Act, which I think I proposed first, actually, the Charlie Kirk Free Speech Act would outlaw viewpoint discrimination on all the large platforms, tech platforms, social media, universities, etc.
	It would fine violators a billion dollars per day if they engage in algorithmic or manual censorship of protected speech.
	It would explicitly protect political speech, medical, scientific, religious, even anti-government speech, speech that's critical of governments.
	It would establish a $1 trillion compensation fund for victims of censorship.
	That is, for those who have been censored, you'll get compensated as these tech companies pay fines into this compensation fund to help compensate you for all the damage, all the economic damage, the lost business damage, the reputation damage, the smears, the lost years.
	And it will also, this law will criminally prosecute executives who engage in the systematic suppression of free speech.
	And that's why it's important.
	So if you want to read the details about that, I've got it at naturalnews.com.
	Just look on the left-hand column there.
	Uh except on a mobile device, it won't show you that.
	That's the desktop version of the site.
	On a mobile device, it won't show you the same left column.
	So you have to search for it.
	But it says why we need the Charlie Kirk Free Speech Act.
	Okay, uh changing the subject here, I've got some really great news to share with you just about the success of a peptide therapy that I experienced over the weekend.
	So I've mentioned before that, well, many months ago, I started taking BPC 157 as a nasal, uh, just uh a nasal spray.
	This is uh a peptide for healing old injuries.
	And I am I continue to be very excited about how effective this has been.
	It enabled me to be able to start jogging again.
	And then I've been jogging now for a few months, and I jog about 30 minutes a day.
	And this weekend, something really amazing kicked in, and I discovered that my 30-minute jog time, uh like the same path that I have been jogging in 30 minutes, I'm now doing it in 20 minutes.
	So my jogging speed just increased, you know, substantially.
	And also kettlebell strength and reps and everything is just increasing substantially.
	And I'm using other peptides too.
	I'm I'm using uh what is this, the five amino one MQ.
	I'm using that.
	But these peptides are available from uh Limitless is the company name.
	You can find them through Rangerdeals.com.
	There's a link there.
	You can click on limitless uh peptides, and they have Neotropics, they have the BPC 157 nasal version, which is what I use, the nasal spray.
	They've got an oral version, uh, capsules of BPC 157, and they've got combinations of BPC 157 with some other things.
	Uh uh, what TB frag, uh copper, thymosin, beta, oh, that's TB.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, there's different combinations available there.
	And uh we are an affiliate of Limitless, and if you use discount code Ranger, it will save you 10 or 15%, which is a very big deal because these are not cheap, that's for sure.
	But I I'm just astonished at how effective that they have been.
	Because, you know, I've always been into nutrition, obviously, and I eat very well.
	I'm not into junk food.
	You know, I do smoothies every day, I take care of my health.
	I have superfoods, you know, I do herbs, I do essential oils, I do all kinds of things.
	And yet there was still something missing for me, and it was the signal, The signal to rebuild blood vessels to like injured areas and scar tissue areas that I've suffered from because of my martial arts training.
	So the BPC-157, that's what it does.
	It rebuilds blood supply to injured areas, brings them blood to help them heal.
	And since I have very healthy blood, you probably do too.
	Then the healthy blood gets there and really heals those tissues rapidly.
	Because I've got plenty of zinc, you know, I've got plenty of vitamin C and you know all kinds of other nutrients, superfood nutrients, anthocyanins, and what have you.
	And I've got good healthy, you know, flowing blood.
	I take resveratrol, and obviously, you know, ahi flower oil, which thins the blood a little bit just because it's uh it's like a plant-based DHA, etc.
	So I've got good healthy flowing blood, but I was missing the signal.
	And what peptides do is it sends your body the signal to start healing.
	And a lot of these peptides work on the uh endocrine system, and that's why they're useful.
	You know, some people use the there's injectable forms of these peptides.
	That's not what I focus on.
	Uh I focus on the nasal and the oral, but some people use injectables for all kinds of different things, and it's just a small amount that they inject, but it sends a very big signal to the body to make a major change, like, you know, producing more growth hormone or what have you, or you know, supporting the thyroid gland, all kinds of things.
	So these are all experimental, by the way, they're not FDA approved, they're not sold as uh medicines or even as supplements.
	But if you uh would like to investigate them and do your own research, then you can find the link at Rangerdeals.com and uh just click on limit list there, you'll see it as one of the partners and use discount code Ranger.
	Now I'm gonna be jogging longer now.
	I mean, I have to extend my normal jogging path because I have to bring it back up to 30 minutes, but now I'll be covering a lot more ground in 30 minutes than I was previously.
	So it's just feels fun.
	I I love jogging.
	How about you?
	Do you enjoy getting out and jogging?
	Just the freedom of it, just being able to jog around.
	I I also have a trike, and sometimes I I bike with the trike, mic on a bike and a trike, uh, outside uh in in the sunshine, you know, with my shirt off and and wearing shorts, just getting as much sunlight as I can.
	And so I'm getting uh plenty of sun, I'm getting, you know, good peptides, good nutrition, good exercise, fresh air, clean water.
	Hey, what else can you ask for?
	You know?
	God provides.
	It's an amazing world, and God and Mother Nature give us the things that we need to be healthy.
	So just take advantage of that and uh enjoy good health.
	All right, now uh let's get back to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
	Uh what a tragedy for America.
	I'm so sad that that happened.
	And it's critical that we get to the bottom of this to find out who's behind it.
	Now, I absolutely understand why so many people think Israel might be behind it, because of course Israel is the assassination capital of the world, and Israel is incredibly good at killing people.
	They bragged about their pagers, how they spent years uh infiltrating the supply chain of pagers, and they got all these pages into the hands of all these people in Lebanon, you know, part of Hezbollah, but also a lot of just first responders, regular folks, and then they detonated all the pagers all at once one day and blew everybody's hands off and killed a bunch of people, killed some children, and then they bragged about it.
	And more recently, Israel assassinated the entire uh leader and cabinet of the country of Yemen by bombing uh government building where they were having a meeting, just killed almost all of them, the entire cabinet, wiped out in one bombing.
	Uh Israel routinely kills nuclear scientists in Iran and assassinates people in Europe, assassinates people all over the Middle East, etc.
	So, you know, it's not crazy to say that Israel is capable of doing this.
	That doesn't mean they did it, though.
	And as of right now, there's no hard evidence Linking Israel to this, there well, I mean there are some videos from Charlie Kirk himself, uh, videos which are being rapidly scrubbed from YouTube, by the way, where he's asking questions about was October 7th, did that involve a stand down order, for example, or shouldn't we be asking more questions about Israel?
	Things like that, or Gaza is a giant, you know, giant prison camp or something like that, he said.
	Well, all those things may be true, but still that doesn't prove that Israel is behind the assassination.
	So let's look at it from the other side.
	What about this guy who's been arrested?
	What's his name?
	Is it is it Tyler something?
	Anyway, the the alleged shooter.
	Well, it seems like almost everybody right now has already decided that that's the guy, that he's guilty.
	But there are so many questions about that.
	For example, there's no video of him, you know, climbing off the roof with a rifle.
	And that guy has said he's apparently pleaded not guilty, and he's not cooperating with law enforcement, he's not confessing that he did it.
	And I saw a quote where he said that his he said like his body double did the shooting or something like that.
	Or the I forgot exactly what he said, but it was something like the body double did the shooting.
	That's very strange.
	There are so many weird anomalies with this event that it's it's hard to believe the government's official narrative.
	And did you know that in addition to as we're told that he disassembled the rifle and then you know reassembled it?
	I guess we're told that he was walking around campus with the barrel down his pants.
	Doesn't even make any sense.
	And then he climbed up on the roof somehow with a gun barrel down his pants, which doesn't sound possible.
	And then he got on the roof, and then he assembled the rifle there, even though normally assembling that kind of rifle requires a workbench and tools and a and a gun vise.
	And it's it's a tricky thing, actually.
	It's it's not trivial.
	And then he took the shot, which doesn't make sense because if you disassemble and reassemble a rifle, you normally have to re-zero it because obviously the optics had to be remounted, and you would have to re-zero it, you know.
	You couldn't trust the shot if you assembled it all of a sudden.
	Anyway, we're told then he disassembled it after he took the shot.
	Like quickly, magically, in a moment, he disassembled it, stuck the barrel down his pants again, then jumped off the roof somehow with a gun barrel down his pants, which I'm pretty sure that would be very painful, and you'd break something.
	And then we're told that he ran to the woods, and then that he reassembled the rifle in the woods, only to leave it there, and then run away so that the FBI could find the rifle.
	Now that makes no sense at all.
	So the official story is just total nonsense.
	But it gets worse.
	It turns out that while he was assembling and disassembling the gun, he was also changing his clothes multiple times.
	Yes, he was changing his clothes.
	And here we have Utah Governor Cox, who's a real, yeah, he's uh not a good person.
	Um here he is in 20 seconds, he's explaining how many times that they believe this guy changed his clothes, because you know, the culprit they saw had different clothes from the clothes that this guy was wearing, so they're just saying, well, he must have changed them.
	Well, maybe they got the wrong guy.
	Maybe there is a guy that looks like him wearing different clothes.
	You ever thought about that?
	Anyway, listen to Governor Cox stumble through this explanation of how many times that the alleged shooter changed clothes while also assembling and disassembling the rifle multiple times.
	That's a skill right there.
	It would take like four hands.
	Check this out.
	Yes, yes.
	So um, so when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on, and then he changes clothing on the roof, and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when when he was uh when he was apprehended when he when he was arrested, um the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting here at UV.
	So wait what wait wait a second.
	So he says that the so-called shooter climbs up on the roof and then changes clothes on the roof.
	What?
	Because right, right, because the first thing you want to do on when you're on a roof and you're trying to hide, and you you're about ready to shoot somebody.
	The first thing you want to do is obviously change your clothes.
	Yeah.
	That makes no sense at all.
	Why would you change your clothes on the roof?
	And when did he have time to change clothes when he's so busy reassembling and disassembling the rifle?
	So, you know, this official story is absolute nonsense.
	And, you know, it's it's so bizarre to me to see a lot of people in alternative media who are now absolutely convinced somehow they just believe the government propaganda at this point, but they're saying that this is Charlie Kirk's assassin.
	You know, even even Alex Jones is saying that right now.
	And he was the one to question uh Sandy Hook.
	But of course, you know, he got handed a big civil suit over Sandy Hook.
	So for now, Alex is actually he's believing the government line.
	Uh for the moment, maybe that'll change.
	Alex is usually very good at at questioning things, but right now I'm I'm a little bit shocked that he thinks that this guy is the assassin.
	You know, uh, based on what?
	Based on what the government told you?
	I mean, come on.
	Uh also no bullet has been recovered from the shooting, no bullet.
	And in case you're wondering, if they find the bullet, can they match it to the gun?
	Uh the answer is no.
	There's actually no such thing as a ballistics matching of a bullet to a specific barrel.
	That is a complete Hollywood hoax.
	That does not exist in the real world.
	Now, some law enforcement will still try to use that, but they're literally making it up like hair analysis.
	The FBI used to rely on hair analysis many decades ago, and they would convict people because they would look at their hair sample under a microscope and they would say, Yep, it looks like the hair from the that was found at the scene, you know.
	It's like, yes, because it all hair looks very similar if you're in the same race, like black person's hair looks like black person's hair.
	It looks like all black people's hair, you know, or Indian hair looks like everybody's Indian hair, you know.
	I mean, Chinese hair looks like Chinese hair.
	It's all the the same hair.
	It's not like you can actually convict a person or nail it down to one person.
	So hair analysis has always been a total scam, total hoax.
	Uh ballistic analysis of bullets is the same scam.
	No such thing.
	In the tests that have been conducted to try to test, you know, ballistics analysis, the answers that were given by law enforcement after they examine the bullets and the barrels, the answers were no better than random chance.
	So there's actually no matching of a bullet to a barrel.
	So if you see them, the authorities, if they start to say, we we got the bullet and then we matched it to the barrel, now you know for sure they're just completely lying.
	Because there is no such thing as matching a bullet to a barrel.
	I mean, think about it, it doesn't even make any sense.
	I mean, all the barrels are smooth, except for the rifling in the barrels, right?
	I mean, they all have rifling, but other than that, they're smooth.
	And the rifling is the same in all the barrels from the same manufacturing lot.
	So if you look at a bullet and you see like rifling scars that are a certain distance apart, that could be from any barrel in that same production lot.
	It it doesn't like there's there's not a fingerprint that gets put on the bullet from the barrel.
	There's no fingerprint.
	You know, I mean, it's absurd to even think that that's possible.
	It's always been a hoax.
	So don't believe that if they roll that out, it's a total lie.
	So anyway, we have a lot of questions right now.
	And uh Ian Smith, who is one of the guys, uh I think he's the guy who got famous for saying no to closing down his gym during the COVID lockdowns.
	Uh Ian Smith Fitness is his name on X, uh, Ian Smith Sr.
	He put out a list of all the things that don't add up.
	Like the fact that there are these decoys, a couple of decoy guys there.
	And what about the private jet that disappeared from public tracking?
	Why did Charlie Kirk's security team immediately dismantle the scene and just destroy the scene evidence and took down the cameras and the also the poster that was behind Charlie Kirk?
	And why is there no blood splatter?
	Sorry to be graphic about this, but there's no blood splatter behind Charlie Kirk.
	If the bullet entered from the front and went through his neck, wouldn't you see something behind his neck on that that white giant banner that was uh behind him?
	But you see nothing.
	And then they hurry and take it down.
	And they they destroy the evidence.
	There's been really no forensics at all.
	There's no autopsy.
	There's no image of the so-called gunman with a gun, even though there must be a thousand cameras all across campus.
	You know, there's weird things about him changing clothes so many times.
	You know, uh, what about the confession?
	We're told that this shooter confessed to his father, but then he pleads uh not guilty in in in court.
	So he he's not saying that he's guilty.
	So is his dad making this up?
	Maybe I mean who knows.
	And it's there are so many questions about this that anybody leaping to the conclusion that this is the guy, this is absolutely the guy.
	Um, come on.
	That's what you know, the government wants you to believe.
	That's what maybe the media wants you to believe, but we don't have any substantial evidence to support that at the moment.
	This actually, it looks like this guy's a Patsy.
	It looks like somebody else did this.
	Now, I don't know who that is.
	I don't know if it's CIA or Mossad or MI6 or, you know, name your other favorite intelligence agents.
	Maybe it's Iran, maybe it's North Korea for some reason, who knows?
	But I don't think it's the guy they got.
	Because that guy, think about it.
	There would be all kinds of video of that guy carrying a rifle around and and putting a rifle on the roof and taking the rifle off the roof.
	And he wouldn't have reassembled it to leave it in the woods.
	That's insane.
	He wouldn't have changed clothes on the roof.
	These are stupid claims.
	It just doesn't make any sense.
	And then Kash Patel gives a you know a conference and he ends it with, I'll see you in Valhalla.
	Like, what?
	So now we're invoking Norse mythology?
	Did you check with uh Odin, the the Norse god for permission to enter Valhalla?
	I mean, what what on earth are we talking about here?
	Charlie Kirk was a Christian.
	Wouldn't you say, I'll see you in heaven or something?
	Is there some reason why the director of the FBI can't say the word heaven?
	I mean, seriously, and then what's the deal with this drone flying around?
	So there's a there's a drone that's flying directly over the event.
	I mean, there are a lot of questions here, and the official narrative is not making any sense.
	Uh however, at the same time, it doesn't mean that we know who did it yet.
	It's still too early.
	We can't say for sure who's behind it.
	But maybe we will, maybe we never will.
	I just don't know.
	Now, the the ADL has issued a report denouncing, quote, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, uh, naming people like um uh Ian Carroll and the Syrian girl, etc.
	I mean, uh, don't be ridiculous.
	It's not anti-Semitic to think that Israel assassinated somebody.
	I mean, it's it's a that's what they do, you know.
	I mean, it doesn't mean that you hate Jews to actually credit Israel with being incredibly capable at killing people because you know Netanyahu even brags about he gave he gave President Trump a golden pager.
	What do you think that indicated?
	It indicated, hey, we're gonna blow you up too if you don't do what we say, you know, because everybody knows Israel can kill anybody anytime, anywhere on the planet, and they do.
	They do it repeatedly.
	It's not anti-Semitic to say that you know Israel's good at murdering people.
	They do it every day, for God's sake.
	So it's not anti-Semitic.
	Now, at the same time, we don't, in my opinion, we don't have evidence that Israel is behind us.
	We there is, I mean, Israel does benefit in some ways from Charlie Kirk no longer asking questions and then Ben Shapiro coming in to take over, because Ben Shapiro, you know, full-blown loyal Zionist, that's for sure.
	So, yeah, Israel benefits, but you know, logically, that doesn't mean that Israel is behind it.
	We just don't know.
	But I'm not convinced that this Tyler guy is behind it.
	He, again, he seems like a Patsy.
	So I guess we'll either have to hope that some additional information comes out that tells us one way or another who's behind it, or maybe it'll be like the JFK assassination, we'll never know.
	I mean, that's the most likely outcome, actually, is that we'll probably never know.
	Uh, one more thought in all of this is that these radical leftists, it turns out that almost all of them are vaccinated.
	The ones that are just celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, they're vaccinated.
	Almost all of them.
	And I've said this before the vaccines cause brain damage.
	And of course, radical leftists, they love vaccines because they they trust the science, they trust Fauci, they trusted the Biden administration, even though it was Trump's operation warp speed.
	But as soon as Biden came into office, these dumbass leftists, they're like, yeah, now it's Biden's vaccine, I'll take it.
	And they took it.
	And they took it over and over again.
	And I I think it has literally damaged their higher brain function, and it's caused many of them to revert to their reptilian brainstem, where all they understand is, you know, like aggression and anger or sex or you know, just animalistic drives.
	That's all they understand, and that's the way they're acting out now.
	You see this across the radical left.
	How much they celebrate Charlie's death, and it's very common among school teachers for some reason.
	So, you know, teachers across America, not all of them, but most of them are radical leftists, and they're they're all vaccinated, right?
	And they've lost their higher brain function, and they've become, you know, reptilian animals who are just seething with anger and hatred, or in some cases, joy when Charlie Kirk gets shot.
	But that's who's teaching your children and grandchildren across this country.
	And that's why I said that we've we've got to purge all these insane leftists out of their jobs.
	That is the ones that are that have influence or teaching children or have a lot of influence over society.
	They're no longer capable of interacting with society in a civilized way.
	They they cannot be part of a sustainable civilization.
	So we need to remove them from those positions completely, and I don't know, let them go sweep floors or something until the robots take over, or even after the robots take over.
	Just give them something to do.
	Here, push up broom, you know.
	No more teaching children for you.
	You can talk to the dust on the floor, you know.
	Um, but there's a lot of crazy insane leftists in this country, obviously, and a lot of them have come out of the woodwork over this Charlie Kirk situation.
	And a lot of leftists who people thought were just sort of, you know, ordinary liberals have turned out to be uh insane, like zombie-brained leftists.
	And so in the past, we've talked about the the zombie wave, right?
	When the zombies attack.
	Well, what if that's here?
	What if the vaccines created the zombies and now the zombies are coming out, drooling with with hatred for humanity and hatred for Trump and hatred for America?
	And they're all triggered by the American flag, too.
	They hate the flag, you know.
	They hate free speech.
	They want to kill everybody.
	They're like zombies or vampires or something, werewolves, I don't know.
	All kinds of weird undead creatures, but that's the radical left.
	That's what they have become.
	My guess is that things are gonna get a lot crazier.
	I think we are going to see a lot more um let's say terrorism from the left.
	There in fact, there was a Fox News van that was just firebombed by a couple of leftists in Utah.
	Apparently they got caught and they've been arrested.
	Uh what is it?
	Yeah, Fox News vehicle.
	A device found under a news media vehicle in Utah.
	Two men were arrested on suspicion of placing an incendiary device.
	The bomb failed to detonate, but FBI searched the vehicle and uncovered explosives, firearms, drugs, and hoax weapons of mass destruction.
	Well was the FBI searching their own van?
	I mean, uh, that sounds like something the FBI would be carrying around.
	Hoax weapons of mass destruction?
	That's funny.
	That's in the Associated Press story, by the way.
	That's actually hilarious.
	Uh, but whatever.
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	All right, with that said, we've got a very interesting interview for you here today, which is featuring Torsten Trey, uh Dr. Trey, who is doctors against forced organ harvesting or DAFO, D-A-F-O-H.
	Doctors against forced organ harvesting.
	And this is a group that speaks out against the forced organ harvesting, uh, specifically in China, although I mentioned to him in the interview that this goes on in America too, but that's not his focus.
	His focus is China.
	I'm just like, I'm pretty sure it's more than China, that's all I'm saying.
	Um check out this interview and make up your own mind, see what you think.
	But anyway, organ harvesting is happening.
	It it's it's a crime against humanity, that's for sure.
	It's it's not cool that this is going on.
	But I'll have um another fantastic interview for you tomorrow as well.
	We've gonna have a great lineup for you this week.
	But enjoy today's interview, and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	Be well.
	And so what you are saying is that in China, they're they're farming human organ inventory.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So it's the government, the court system.
	You can buy anything, a kidney organ or liver organ is just a commodity, and you can just pay for it together.
	Powerful people, wealthy people can get organs.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighton.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton, and as you know, I have for years spoken out against uh organ harvesting and organ trafficking operations.
	And our special guest today is the founder of an organization called Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting.
	That's D-A-F-O-H.org.
	If you want to check out the website, we'll show you some of it.
	Uh uh our guest is the founder, uh, Dr. Torsten Trey, who joins us now to talk about this practice and why some people are being killed for their organs and how this violates uh all all the all the standards of you know ethics and humanity and medicine as well.
	But uh welcome, Dr. Trey to the show today.
	It's great to have you on as a guest.
	Thank you, Mike, for having me.
	Um I'm very glad to be here and share what I can share with your audience.
	Well, thank you so much for taking the time to join us.
	And and you and I have just met just now.
	Uh this is the first time we've ever spoken.
	Uh, and I'm I'm not familiar with your organization.
	Um I'd love to learn more, but I just want you to know I have interviewed other experts in previous years about this very topic.
	And uh I've talked about some books, uh I forgot the name, like Red Trade or something was one of the books uh uh about organ harvesting and organ trade.
	But tell us about uh DAFO, DAFOH, Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting, and why you have made this your mission.
	Yeah, uh I'm happy to do that.
	So in 2006, uh I learned actually from uh article in the newspaper newspaper, the Epoch Times, that there was a uh whistleblower who who said uh that her um her uh her husband was a uh surgeon in China and he removed corneas, um eyes, corneas from 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners.
	And at that time I thought, wow, that's that's impossible.
	And um uh I I got interested in this.
	I followed it.
	And then um there was uh a few months later um a report by two Canadian investigators, David Ku or David Metters, they did phone calls to China pr pretending that they um needed an uh kidney, an organ.
	And on the other side of the phone, uh in the Chinese hospital, they said actually, yes, we have we have only uh these organs, fresh organs.
	Um they asked specifically if they have organs from Falongong practitioners because they are more healthy.
	On the other side, they said, yes, our organs are only from uh this kind.
	So uh at this time uh I got really alert and um I myself went to Boston and to the World Transplant Congress, and um I in the hope of talking to some surgeons from China, I did.
	And exactly I found uh what I suspected there's an abundance of organs uh in China, and they um they trans have a high number of transplants.
	And that didn't make sense because they didn't have an organ donor program.
	So when I asked one of them where the organs come from, he admitted to me the organs are coming from Falungong practitioners.
	And at that time in the summer of 2006, I said, I have to do something.
	Uh there's nobody around who who can do can you know what step up and every other doctors are usually busy.
	So I decided I'm gonna start an NGO, doctors against photo organ harvesting, and uh bring more people, more doctors together to inform the uh the medical community and the public.
	That's that's really extraordinary.
	Uh and may I ask where where are you based or your organization?
	We we have uh our headquarters in uh Washington, DC.
	In Washington, D.C., okay.
	All right.
	So uh and also for our audience, I just want to mention Falun Gong is a peaceful, it's a Tai Chi kind of practice that involves both spiritual and physical movements for good health and longevity and spiritual awareness.
	It's uh it's a practice I support.
	It's a practice that is uh it's pursued by many people in Chinese culture.
	And uh as our audience knows, uh I speak Chinese.
	I I lived in Taiwan.
	I know the Chinese culture very well.
	I used to see Falun Gong practitioners in the in the park on the mornings, early, very early morning.
	They are the early risers of Chinese culture.
	And so what you are saying is that in China that there is a marketplace for I suppose uh kidnapping, uh otherwise taking Falun Gong practitioners and then harvesting their organs while they're living or killing them for their organs or both.
	So what what happened is in 1999 there were about a hundred million Falun Gong practitioners, and at that time the um the uh the chairman, the party leader Jiang Xi Min, he uh pr probably because of um jealousy or b because there were more practitioners than than members in the Communist Party, or because he uh uh found that uh they expose actually the evil character of the CCP.
	Anyhow, overnight he banned uh Falun Gong and uh started a persecution against all these millions of people.
	So they were detained and um in detention camps more probably more than a million uh practitioners and um for they were brainwashed, at times uh tortured.
	Um and then also some the the rule was if they were um killed under torture, that would be counted as suicide.
	They committed suicide.
	So at one point, then they started probably to see that instead of just uh uh killing them or torturing them to death, they could actually make profit of it if they use their bodies as organ source.
	And then they started to take blood, uh uh build up um a data bank of the blood types, the tissue types, they did ultrasound, um and and what we hear from uh regular criminal inmates is that the the uh only the the these blood tests were only done on Falun Gong practitioners, not on the other inmates, the criminal inmates who really committed crimes.
	So uh it was like a targeted bank, and and um I remember that David Kilgor, um he uh visited uh one of the patients who did who went to China for organ transplant, and that patient told him that the doctor he had like a chart, and then he went down the chart and made this this movement.
	So this illustrates that they have a a data bank of all the inmates, detained Falun Gong inmates, detainees, and then they can just uh when a patient comes, they just go to the data bank and say, okay, the prisoner in cell 501 that uh has this blood type, we can use him as a kidney or uh So they're they're they're farming human organ inventory.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	And then you say you ex you use the right word, you they farm.
	And you you can only do that in a in a society where you have the all the infrastructure on your side.
	So it's the government, the court system, the police, the p uh the the wards in the detention camp.
	Like all of them, they are working together to farm.
	You you would not be able to, you know, to raise such an organ farm um, for example, here in in the U.S. Okay.
	Okay, that's very disturbing information.
	And I think it's well known in the United States that if you're a wealthy person or a connected person, you can get organs.
	You can get tissue, you can get tendon pieces or whatever you need.
	Uh famously, I think uh uh the former founder or CEO of Apple, Steve Jobs, when he had cancer, I think that he was placed at the top of a of a transplant list.
	Uh that probably did not involve China, but uh there's there's a sense, and I'd like you to speak to this, there's a sense uh I would say it's sort of low-level awareness in America that powerful people, wealthy people can get organs.
	Are those organs often coming from China in your research?
	It is it is true that basically you think this way that the heads of uh transplantation of uh transplantation centers, they are aware of this here in the US.
	They are aware of uh the forced organ harvesting in China, and they know that you can get a get a transplant organ within two weeks in China.
	So when there are um uh wealthy people coming and to them and ask them, what can I do to get uh an organ in a fast pace, then I uh I would um I would think that some of them say, well, there's an option going to China.
	And um this is not just like a theory, but I was actually uh told by uh consultant, doctor who who told me about um the um the head of um um hospital that I don't want to name here, but uh he he knew that the head of that uh transplant department referred wealthy people to China.
	So there is there is uh there is this thinking of uh you can buy anything, a kidney organ or a liver organ is just a commodity, and you can just pay for it to get it.
	Okay.
	Um let me ask you a sensitive question.
	And I know this isn't your area of focus, but uh one of my family members was I I would say they were organ harvested in the United States uh died of a drug overdose, fentanyl, and was kept alive until uh the organs could be taken from that person, and they were pronounced brain dead, and then the organs were taken.
	There's uh uh HHS Secretary RFK Jr. has recently raised the alarm over uh what I what I would call organ harvesting happening in the United States, but not in the same way that you're describing in China.
	Can you speak to what are the differences?
	Because clearly there is organ transplantation and organ extraction taking place in in America and in Europe, et cetera.
	How is that different from what you're describing as happening in China, where there's more of an entire infrastructure for this?
	Yeah, in in China you you think of this is an has become an industry, and we are talking about tens of thousands of transplants that are performed based on organs that are illegally criminally um harvested from prisoners of conscience.
	I see.
	And there's a whole infrastructure behind it.
	So in it this happened over the past 20 plus years.
	And I have noticed that um this effect that how China approaches the transplant field has undermined or eroded uh the ethical standards in the West too.
	You think of it like a competition, like China can provide an organ within two weeks, and here in the US, it you need to wait five years for kidney.
	So the there's like a they China is out competing the transplant uh um field here in the US, if you want.
	So in some cases, there might now be the situation where the doctors are desperate here in the US to provide organs, and then in single cases, they might um you know uh they they might shift the uh goal, the ethical goalpost to get to that organ faster.
	And uh there it it's like I I would call it it's a ripple effect of what China is doing, how China has uh how how China has aggressively approached this transplant field that uh doctors in the U.S. are tempted to follow and uh get to those uh or uh donor organs faster and not in the right way.
	Aaron Powell It might be also, I'm sure this is a factor where uh people sort of like you go to a restaurant, you order a hamburger.
	You don't want to know how that cow was killed.
	You know, you don't want to you don't want to see the slaughterhouse.
	You don't want to have to kill the cow yourself.
	It seems like a similar thing could happen in organ transplants where there might be a doctor in the US or some other country that's like, I really just don't want to know where this came from.
	I want the organ to help this patient here.
	Is that is that kind of in line with what you were just describing?
	Or what would you add to that?
	Um there is um uh bioethicist, uh, Professor Arthur Kaplan, he basically stated that the doctor team that conducts the uh transplantation has to know where the organs come from.
	It's basically part of their responsibility to um and also part of for transparency and the traceability of the organs, that the doctor team knows where the organs come from.
	That that's an ethical an ethical standard, an ethical guideline if you want.
	And those uh guidelines seem to you know erode over time.
	So some people r rather uh say don't think of the organ donor, but just think of the who's the recipient.
	We have to um, you know, we need that organ to uh um perform the uh transplant surgery.
	Well, right, and but that's isn't that also a conflict of interest where there's a lot of money in the transplant procedure and in the post-op uh the the visitation, the anti-rejection drugs, the hospital visits, all of this can be billed to Medicare and insurance companies.
	So there's a conflict of interest when you're speaking about bioethics.
	One of the things that we've seen, obviously in in all forms of medicine, is that when there's money to be made, the ethics go out the window often.
	Uh then it can be true that uh uh money is a factor, but um I would say in the in the case of doctors, it might be that the wish to help, the the wish to uh conduct the uh to perform the organ transplantation, that might be uh the reason to shift the goalpost.
	It's not not necessarily because of the money.
	It's it's maybe in some cases because of the money, but uh they might uh rather be motivated by uh you know, to motivated to shift the goalpost of ethics just to you know to provide this uh transplant surgery.
	I understand.
	Okay, all right.
	Uh thank you for that answer.
	Let me ask you about organ donation in the United States, and I I I suspect this might be a very contentious area, but um because of the increased uh awareness of the practice of declaring patients to be brain dead, which does not have a rigorous basis in physiology.
	It's kind of a made-up designation, um, at least in my opinion, but I'd love your answer, and it's okay if you disagree.
	It's completely okay.
	But because of that, I think that fewer people in America trust the American medical system to honor uh their wishes to be actually dead before you know the organs are are taken.
	And as a result, there might be fewer and fewer people who are organ donors.
	Like, for example, I refuse to be an organ donor for this very reason because I know too much.
	So but then doesn't that create scarcity of the organs that then may cause a shift of demand to Chinese derived organs?
	So isn't this an intertwined issue?
	Well, actually the um America is a country that has the highest, uh, the largest number of uh registered organ donors, and it is it uh rather has increased.
	I think there are right now more than 160 million um uh registered organ donors.
	So it's um the the it uh um what you said is not really reflected in the numbers of the registered organ donors.
	However, there um you mentioned the the word trust, and that's that's a key word in the organ transplantation.
	You have to have trust uh that the organ was ethically provided and also that that you get the um the medical treatment um to the to the point that they really want to save your life, not to get your organs.
	So what happens in the in the medical field here is that they are under pressure to say where where they say, well, if the organ is fresh, it's uh um pro procure, freshly procured, it has a better survival time, it's better for the recipient.
	Yes.
	So it's it's it's kind of like uh uh almost like uh competition against the time where where you try to you have to wait for the procedure to determine the that death has occurred.
	But then also you you want to rush for the benefit of the recipient.
	It's it's a very tricky uh proceed uh uh very tricky uh time management.
	And it really depends on um the how the medical doctor in in charge, how he's rooted in the ethical field, I think.
	Well but I have a follow-up question on that.
	If you're saying that America has 160 million registered organ donors, why are we always told that there's a shortage of organs?
	We're all we're constantly reminded of that by the medical establishment.
	Yeah.
	So uh what happened is uh not every registered organ donor will eventually become an eligible organ donor.
	Yes.
	And what what happened is that in many countries it's it's about like one percent of the people who deceive 1% of the registered organ donors who decease are actually becoming eligible as organ donors.
	So if you if you have this huge number, then at the end, it's actually um you you just have maybe 20,000 organ donors per year in in the US or less.
	And um that that's a common phenomenon.
	This one percent, one percent you have also see this in the UK, in France, and Canada.
	But interestingly, in China, where the organ donor program is so small, um basically they claim that they can have uh organs from 12% of the uh registered organ donors.
	And that already tells you they they they how they manipulate the data.
	So either if the numbers are correct, that is um uh outstanding, but then the question is how how do they get to 12% if all other countries only have 1%?
	So let me let me ask you in uh in a reputable country, you talk about the the 1% that become eligible organ donors.
	Uh please describe to us.
	Uh obviously some of that is through accidents.
	People have traffic accidents or motorcycle accidents or whatever.
	What are the actual what what are the the things that happen that make people organ donors?
	Yeah, well, um the the uh one aspect are accidents, fatal accidents.
	Um then uh other cases are uh where when people disease on the ICU uh with a heart heart arrest or um uh brain death after um after an accident, those are the typical uh ways to where where uh they become organ donors or um potential organ donors.
	I see.
	And don't forget um drug overdose.
	I because I know that personally from my family.
	Um but I'm told that that's a very big vector of young males, especially coming into uh the emergency rooms with drug overdose and that are then typically pronounced brain dead.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Um then back to your organization.
	Let me give out your website again.
	DAFOH.org.
	It's doctors against forced organ harvesting.
	Um what does your organization seek to do?
	Is it to provide uh uh diplomatic pressure onto China to change their practices?
	Is it exposing that this is happening?
	Uh what What are your means of hoping to affect change?
	So our main mission is basically to provide information to share uh objective findings with the medical community and the public, because as you as you probably know yourself and uh many members in your uh from your audience, many people have not heard about forced organ harvesting in on in on this industrial scale in China, because China spends billions of dollars to suppress uh the information in the mainstream media.
	So we are basically uh swimming against this stream where where we want to break this uh silence and this cover-up by uh talking and informing about this practice, which I uh for example, do right now.
	Yes.
	We uh uh we we are speaking on webinars, we have organized a world summit uh on this topic.
	Uh we have uh run a petition where we collected three million signatures, which is one of the largest civil uh petitions ever.
	Um so we we use different ways to reach out to people and to inform them.
	Basically uh we we try to byp we we try to um to inform people on a way that usually the newspaper how the how the newspaper should inform people.
	Okay, so so your number one mission is awareness right now.
	Awareness, and then uh after the awareness comes to to stop the practice.
	Okay.
	How what do you think would be a means of achieving that?
	Would it be international pressure on China's government, or how might that even work?
	Yeah.
	So there are actually plenty of ways.
	And uh the the essence of this um what can be done, the essence of this is that China tries everything to silence, to quiet uh quiet down everyone who talks about it.
	So that gives you exactly the what the answer what has to be done.
	We have to uh we have to uh make people knowledgeable of this effect.
	I give you an example uh in 1989 when the student massacre occurred on the Tiananmen Square, then um everyone could see on camera uh how the Chinese government were were killing three was killing three thousand stu about three thousand students on on the place, and that was uh horrifying.
	What happened afterwards is that um many countries pulled out of China and then this this created an economic pressure on China.
	So awareness can lead to actions, and this action can uh be, for example, through economic means.
	What we are doing now is the same.
	Think about it.
	In uh on the Tiananmen Square, uh there were only 3,000 students killed.
	But we believe that uh through forced organ harvesting over 25 years, probably more than a million Falun Gong practitioners and others like Uyghurs, etc., they were killed for the organs, one million.
	So why was there this outcry after the Tiananmen Square massacre, but not for forced organ harvesting?
	The difference is that you have the footage, right?
	The footage immediately informed the people what was happening in China.
	And this is what we are doing now.
	We we we have to we don't have that footage, but we can inform people through through our research and et cetera.
	So we want to achieve basically the same level of information and um and and that is basically that that will trigger the next steps.
	Aaron Powell Let me ask you a pointed question.
	Uh and I think I have a responsibility to ask you from the other point of view.
	Uh how do we know that this isn't like CIA disinformation to try to discredit China?
	Now, remember, I I lived in Taiwan.
	I I support the the I support Taiwanese people and I support the Chinese ethnicity as people and I support human dignity and I'm opposed to human suffering.
	But I also know that the United States and Western governments are in an information war against China.
	They're constantly trying to discredit China and to economically weaken China.
	Trump has threatened tariffs on China, tariffs that he has slapped on India.
	And he says that China doesn't have a right to purchase oil from Russia, which seems like a very odd demand, and that he's going to punish China.
	But China has grown into such an economic powerhouse with exporting critical rare earth minerals, for example, that China has a lot more leverage today than they did in 1989 with Tiananmen.
	So Trump has backed off.
	But how do we know that when you talk about the Uyghurs, for example?
	I've never seen any videos of Uyghurs being tortured in organ harvested.
	How do I know that's not just made up by the CIA that maybe Fed press releases to your organization?
	I just got to ask.
	Oh, sure.
	Sure.
	In terms of the Uyghurs, you're basically asking about evidence, right?
	So in terms of the Uyghurs, we don't have that much evidence.
	So there are some indications and there are from the past doctors who in the Xinjiang province who harvested organs and they came to public and basically admitted it.
	But we have, in terms of Falun Gong, we have an an abundance of evidence based on the number of witnesses that uh uh that were in detention camps and and basically um um they had different exp experiences.
	So um in terms of evidence, when we talk to one aspect, one category.
	Yeah, and you you have to think of this.
	We there is not not uh not a single silver bullet that has all the proof.
	It's it doesn't come on a tablet.
	So what we have to do is we we have to uh it's it's almost like a puzzle where you have to collect the little pieces of evidence and then put it together.
	So one of these categories are witnesses.
	Uh I hear that um from one who was detained for two years, they they blast blood tested that person ten times.
	And there's no reason to uh take the blood ten times when the person is also subject to forced labor and torture.
	There there are no health benefits.
	Others reported that they they received an ultrasound and x-ray and blood tests, but there was uh actually nothing was done to the health.
	Others uh said that they they uh they were detained, and then the the police guard at the in the hospital said um they wanted to take his blood, and he he said that he didn't want them to take their blood, and the policeman asked why, and he he said the the in this case the Falong practitioner said um Um you do this to to harvest my organs.
	And then the policeman said, yeah, this is exactly what we plan to do.
	So there are some so plenty of um uh you know little stories of witnesses that if you bring them all together, you can see there's this intention to to harvest the organs from the Falun Gong practitioners.
	But other pieces of evidence are just that, for example, annual transplant numbers, which um when you compare them with other countries had like a very obscure um, you know, cause of numbers that was going up like three by 300 percent,
	and other people, so other other countries only uh had like 50 percent increase over five years, and then um the organ donor numbers where China started a so-called organ donation program in 2013, and then they came up with uh uh they only had uh the the numbers, for example, on uh December 30, twenty fifteen, they increased by exactly 25,000, 25,000 exactly in one day.
	So you you can see this was more like a desk job, not like real people behind these numbers.
	I see.
	And and uh so it was basically made up to uh appease the doctors in the West that they say, well, now we have an organ donation program, and that's how we get to our uh transplant numbers.
	I see.
	But actually they deceive it.
	So if you take everything together, you get a very solid image of what is actually happening.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Uh fair fair answer, and thank you for that.
	And uh And again, the reason I wanted to have you on is because I I completely oppose obviously forced organ harvesting and organ trafficking.
	And I try to teach people to take care of their own organs first.
	You know, the best way to not need a transplant is, you know, don't use a bunch of recreational drugs and abuse your liver with alcohol addiction, et cetera, right?
	So I that should be the first step.
	Keep you keep the organs you were born with healthier.
	Let me ask you another obvious question.
	I've seen this come up in in debates about this subject.
	If the US government were to try to pressure China over this, and I think some efforts have taken place over the years, you know, China's response would typically I think be, well you have no right USA to lecture us because you you lack ethics.
	I mean you America you you have a weapons industry that makes bombs that ships them to the Middle East and sometimes they bomb hospitals.
	They bomb doctors.
	So you know where is your medical ethics?
	You you know you make weapons that kill doctors and patients and children and then you how do you lecture us about our medical ethics?
	How do you navigate that when the USA, the US government's policies are not ethical I think these are two two different places.
	Well one is a medical place and that's uh for me as a medical doctor that this is appalling we have uh we we take an oath of um a medical oath and uh that that includes doing no harm.
	So if I see that the a medical discipline like transplant medicine is abused to um for example to eradicate unwanted undesired people in the Chinese society and then make profit of it that is appalling for me as a doctor and my profession.
	What you are saying in the military field, I think that is a different field.
	This is regarding, you know, if you want the ethics in the military discipline.
	But it's the government.
	So the DOD is under the United States government.
	And if our government is pressuring China, China would obviously respond and say, well, your government has these other ethics violations in these other areas.
	That's what I'm trying to get at.
	It's like, wouldn't it be easier for us to demand ethics of other countries if our own government had better ethics?
	Of course, like everyone can improve ethics.
	And, you know, this is actually, this is here the problem.
	If China commits forced organ harvesting and thereby violates ethical standards and then gets an advantage of it, basically gets an advantage in the transplant field.
	Then it has a ripple effect on other countries where they also say that, well, if they are cheating, if they are deceiving, then we can also do the same.
	So it's like why it's a problem that if one party tries to get advantages, benefits by cheating, then others are.
	are you know say say that like oh I I do this in uh the same in other fields that you know it's it's really like a ripple effect and the the answer to this how to solve this is at one point you start uh to have a strong voice for ethics and speak up for example there is now uh a Senate bill in the in in the Senate uh a bill uh against forced organ harvesting it's the Senate Bill 817.
	And that that bill that that says uh that um for example people who were involved in the forced organ harvesting in China they don't get a visa or uh it asks to um to decouple our transplant system here in the US from the Chinese transplant system.
	Actually this is something that the HHS after Afgha junior just released uh I think yesterday or today um then they they asked the transplant field to decouple uh uh from uh from the Chinese transfund system.
	So basically this is now in the Senate.
	And if your audience uh want to help, then um they can call their uh their senators and ask their senators to uh co-sponsor this bill.
	What's the bill number again?
	It's S817.
	S817.
	Okay.
	And it also seems to me, you know, in terms of helping Americans protect their organs and not needing transplants.
	That that, you know, for those who really need them, it can make them more available.
	And it it strikes me, I've covered in the past the FDA has been very reluctant to recall dangerous drugs that cause permanent liver damage.
	For example, resolin, which was a diabetes drug, uh, the FDA kept it on the market for far too long.
	Even when it was pulled off the market in the EU, the FDA kept it on the market because of its loyalty to the pharmaceutical uh companies to generate profits.
	And all that, all that time it was causing at least 50,000 Americans to have liver failure.
	So imagine like that kind of influx onto the transplant demand and also over-the-counter Tylenol.
	You know, extreme liver damage when you combine it with alcohol or other pharmaceuticals.
	And everybody's told to just pop Tylenol like it's candy, and it's not.
	It's it's extremely toxic to the liver under certain with certain combinations.
	So aren't there things that we can do in America to stop damaging our organs, you know, even at the government level?
	You're absolutely right.
	Um Medicine is not like an amusement park.
	Medicine is not like a fitness practice or medicine is not meant to do all these uh you know spare time activities, if you want.
	Uh Tylenol has its function in certain uh medical incidents, but it is not meant to be like, as you said, like a daily candy.
	In uh a few days ago there was a conver there was a meeting uh at a military parade in in Beijing, and there was a conversation between Xi Jinping and uh the uh Russian president Putin.
	No, the longevity comment, yeah.
	Exactly.
	And and one said, well, but 70, you are actually young, and then the other said, like, yeah, if you have actually continuous transplants, then uh you can actually uh you can be immortal.
	And then the other said, again, yeah, you can reach 150 years.
	So this is basically transplant medicine is used as a you know, like a fitness instrument.
	Right.
	It's it's it's used to reach longevity longevity.
	But that was not the intent.
	The intent was uh to um you know to uh help people to uh cure an illness, to reach the basically let them reach their natural age.
	It's not meant to um you know achieve longevity.
	And you see the here you see a parallel how people abuse medicine, uh either Tylenol or transformedicine for longevity.
	This is not what med medicine uh was meant to be for.
	Well, I'm I'm so glad that you prioritize medical ethics.
	I completely agree with you on that point.
	And even though we're out of time for today, I'm I'm very happy to meet you.
	And I want to uh mention your organization again, DAFOH.org is the website, Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting.
	And Torsten, tell us tell our audience how they can help support your organization.
	Oh well, the um there's a way to donate to our organization organization on our homepage, but uh I'm actually I uh I always say that if you want to help us, just spread the word.
	Talk to your doctors if they know about it, talk to your friends and neighbors.
	Just uh we are really in in this uh probo in in this in this field, just pro bono.
	We don't want to make any profit or so.
	We just want to stop this practice, and the the first step is to break the silence and to speak about it.
	That's really that's really uh what's it about.
	That that absolutely true.
	And I and I'll say for myself and the show here, we absolutely denounce uh forced organ harvesting uh of any kind by any country, any culture whatsoever.
	But then again, we denounce all forms of violence against human beings.
	But uh sadly, we have a lot of uh things to choose from today when you know when it comes to violence being committed against humans.
	But you and I are both on the same page about uh human compassion, valuing life, having those pro-human values.
	So thank you for joining me.
	Well, thank you for having me.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Uh very nice to meet you, and thank you for all that you do.
	And again, the website, folks, is dafoh.org.
	Uh spread the word, help support the Senate bill.
	Encourage your representatives in Congress to be aware of this, to call it out.
	Uh we are not we are not opposed to voluntary organ donations.
	We are opposed to involuntary or forced organ harvesting in all of its various forms all over the world, including including in China.
	So thank you for joining me today.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, Brightown.com.
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