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Aug. 19, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Mike Adams and Hakeem Anwar Unveil AI-Powered Privacy with Above Phone, Robots, and...
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Welcome to today's interview here at brightion dot com dot I'm Mike Adams and I'm joined in studio today by a returning guest, Hakim Anwar.
He's the CEO of Above Phone.
This is a company that we've partnered with for several years that offers de-googled phones, but they've got some amazing new things to announce today, including the integration of our AI engine with both their phones and their Above Book, which is a privacy-focused notebook computer that doesn't run Windows.
Thank God.
You know, by the way, welcome, Hakim.
It's great to have you in the studio again.
Good to be back, Mike.
It's been too long.
I always miss talking with you.
Yeah, it's been a really crazy year.
You would think that, you know, almost getting to World War and things would slow down a little, but no, it just kept going.
Dude, I think it's only going to get crazier from here on.
And the thing I'm noticing, and let me adjust your microphone a bit, the thing I'm noticing is that the White House just announced this new AI initiative, ai dot gov comma and it's like 80% focused on weaponized AI surveillance and weaponized AI military weapons.
It's not AI for us.
It's AI to spy on us.
And like, God, this is like a Philip Kp K. Dick novel.
You talk about in your show a lot about how the new Frontier of War is AI.
And I think the other side of the picture is like, okay, half of the data center is used for training weapons, but the other side is pointed at us.
That's right.
Yeah.
And that, you know, and that's why companies like Palantir have been in the news for the past year.
That's something I've been watching very closely.
And I think people are going to have to make a choice very soon.
You can either choose to love convenience or you can choose to love freedom.
Uh huh.
Not both.
Not both.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So this is what I love about your company is that you focus on solutions.
that help people protect their privacy.
And of course, I've been using your solutions for many, many years.
And thank you for putting it together.
But you're constantly improving.
And so part of what I wanted to ask you here for today is to show us some of the cool things that you're working on.
So can we start with the phone?
Yeah.
Or where do you want to start?
start with the phone if so so just to give people some context it's like the It's their devices, right?
Yeah.
And I know we've talked about VPNs in the past and other encryption.
tools like the apps used, those are important.
Those are important.
But really, does encryption really matter if you get a device that is prehacked?
I mean, that's what people are doing today, you know?
They get to a store and Google and Apple can install apps on your phone without your knowledge, which they did for contact tracing.
And they can remove stuff.
They can force updates.
And so the whole Android operating system is controlled by Google.
And it's a spyware operating system.
I mean, the flavor of Android that's put on all the phones.
Yes, it is.
It's Google's version or Samsung's version.
You know, they're all equi fitted with Google Wallet or digital ID or contact tracing.
Yes.
And it's just like this is an interesting concept, Mike, that I think you'll appreciate.
It's what I call a network blast when a company makes a product that really no one wants to use, but because they can update seven billion phones at once, it changes the fabric of society.
So that's what they do.
And that's like that layer right there, that yucky Google layer, is what these devices lack.
It's privacy and security by omission.
So that's a really important piece.
Let me ask you this question.
Since I've been using your de-googled phone for many years.
And by the way, we're going to show on screen, we're going to demo your phone.
And let me give out the website too.
If you go to abovephone.com slash ranger, that's our affiliate link.
And anything that you get there, you're going to be able to get a discount because of that slash ranger discount code.
I'm actually showing that on my screen right here, abovephone.com slash ranger.
But there it is.
Yeah.
You have to find the APK and install the APK?
Yeah, there's a lot of good solutions now.
And actually, I can show you on Aurora Store.
So Aurora Store is a way to download the apps that you would normally use on your phone.
So, Mike, you don't have to struggle with finding the apps you love.
Even if you use big tech apps or things that you would use on a daily basis, you can still get that.
So this is the Aurora Store.
It was actually made originally by one person, this developer in India who decided he didn't want people to struggle under Google's Play Store.
And he also wanted to give people more information about the apps that they're downloading.
I think I see so many parallels with software and when it comes to self development, because these apps, the apps on these stores now, will give you an attrition fax.
And what do I mean by that?
So, for instance, here's Indeed if you're looking for a job.
But the thing you don't realize is down here, there are third party companies that exist within these apps.
So, for instance, you can go and get a list.
Okay.
Google is involved in a lot of applications.
In fact, on average on the Google Play Store, there's five separate analytics or advertising companies.
Those are separate companies and they'll get access to what you do in the app.
Wow.
Yeah.
So in other words, this Aurora store tells you kind of warning labels about which apps are infiltrated by which spies.
Exactly.
Basically.
Yeah, exactly.
And so it's like it's exactly like going to the store and turning the food around and reading the label.
Got it.
And so it's like for some things you wouldn't expect it.
Like, for instance, like a PDF reader.
PDF reader, that's just reading a file on your phone.
You would think.
What's the big deal?
And so we look at Adobe and you scroll down here and you see passive reviews and similar apps.
And then you see nine different trackers.
What's the big deal?
And so we look at Adobe and you scroll down here and you see the pass-through reviews and similar apps.
And then you see nine different trackers.
Wow!
Facebook, Google, something called Branch, OpenTelemetry, and They have that same permission.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So you can usually that's something it pops up and people just click OK.
People just click OK.
It's like, I need access to your files.
Oh, that seems reasonable, but I didn't want to say that to Facebook or Google.
So it's disingenuous and it's wrong for Google to hide this complexity from people.
But, you know, these big tech companies like to play like they're the wizards and you're just a peon, so you don't get to understand this.
So the Aurora store does the installations of the apps, like let's say Signal.
Signal is a popular communications app.
If someone wanted to download and install Signal, can they do that through Aurora?
They could, yes, they could.
So any of these apps you can install.
It's not just looking at the info, but So let's install Signal.
Let's find it.
By the way, we can talk about Signal a little bit.
I don't trust Signal.
No, don't worry.
I'm just saying it's a data-oriented app.
So it's easier for people to use sometimes.
Because they can do it on Wi-Fi.
Easy to use, totally.
Yeah.
So okay, so yes, you can install it, then you'll get the network permission, and then it'll install it.
It'll even handle updates and everything, so Okay, well, all right, let me test you then on this.
Okay, I'm a long range target shooter, so I like ballistics apps, and that's that's kind of a niche market, but can you search Aurora for ballistics and see if there's any ballistics app that might just pop up?
Sure, I can.
I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but No problem, no problem, man.
Type in ballistics.
It probably has the same app that you're using.
Oh, you're playing me, apply ballistics?
That's right there.
There's Hornady and there's like Sig Sauer and there's Laika and a bunch of them, but Applied Ballistics is the king.
Let's see.
Hey, look, it's pretty good.
It's got a pretty good tracker record.
Like Mark Zuckerberg, he knows how good you shoot, so he's up there training.
Oh, really?
But it's not so bad.
That's actually a very, you know, that's a pretty good privacy score for this.
Okay.
So go ahead and install it.
That's cool.
Yeah, you're going to have to key in a bunch of muzzle velocity stuff.
We don't want to mess with all that.
I just wanted to see if it would pop up.
Yeah.
So that's the beauty of this degoogled ecosystem, right?
Huh.
Even though it doesn't have Google, there are still ways to get the things you want.
That's cool.
You have the freedom to, you know, it's really your call.
So we try to provide you with as much information as possible through what trackers are on the apps, and then you get to make informed decisions about what's on your phone.
Okay, so a question from an end user, let's say, They're currently using an Android phone.
They've got a SIM card.
Can they just buy your phone, pop the card in, and everything just starts working with their, you know, ATT account or whatever they're using?
Yeah, exactly.
So it works with any cell service in the world.
You could be in Zimbabwe and using their cell service or you could be in America with ATT and you would get this phone and it has a place for you to put the SIM card in.
Now, some people may have not done this before.
It's a really easy process.
It is.
Like five minutes.
A paperclip, slide out the little tray.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But if you go to the store, they'll be a little sketchy about it.
So I wouldn't recommend that.
They're like, what is this phone?
And it's like they haven't heard of a privacy phone before.
They don't know.
But anyone can do it at home.
Yeah.
Okay, and the physical hardware phone, it's...
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's using Google Pix Pixel hardware.
Now, at first, that seems like counterintuitive.
Thought we were trying to escape Google.
Well, we are.
And also, Google's got some of the best security in the world for their phones.
So it's a level of usability and support that you're going to get.
That's why it works anywhere in the world.
And what we're focusing on is the operating system level.
So the operating system is in my research where most of the surveillance comes from.
Clearly.
It's like, you know, that's what they count on your laziness and for this to run in the background.
And the crazy part is anyone can see this with a little bit of at home setup.
And then we have independent studies from Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland, which they looked at how much data a Google phone and an iPhone are sending back.
And what they found is it all through the operating system.
So you're taking care of that big layer there.
So you have the Pixel 9 Pro XL available.
That's right.
The high end.
It's the high end.
It's the best phone you can get on the market today.
And yeah, we were talking about this before the show, but it's got 16 gigs of RAM.
So, you know, it's setting you up to run AI models on your phone or even software on your phone.
You know what?
Let's actually demo that because you were just showing me before.
the show that you've taken our old AI model from last year, NEO, which we don't even really recommend anymore because it's obsolete, but you were able to install NEO on there and you're running last year's AI model on the phone and you're going to install our new Enoch model as soon as we have the GGUF available, correct?
That's right.
We're so excited for the release of that.
My team has been preparing and we're excited for it.
So let me just show you what the experience will be like.
Okay.
We're going to show it on the screen.
So you're actually going to run a query locally on your phone.
That's right.
Not in the cloud, not using a browser.
Yeah, I'll prove it.
Let me disconnect from the Wi-Fi.
All right.
No, it's okay.
We trust you.
Okay.
So you don't need the internet to do this, like you said.
So here, I scraped my knee, and I need...
What herbs might help heal the wound?
Okay.
Send that off.
so now Neo's gonna Look how fast it is.
Wow.
How many tokens per second is that getting?
Looks like at least.
At least 20, 21.
More?
Yeah.
It's it's it's quite fast.
It's usable.
Wow.
And that's see, yeah, that's the model that we trained last year.
It's talking about turmeric and echinacea and everything.
It has a it has a speciality, yeah, has a speciality of knowledge.
And so NEO is really, really great.
Once we get Enoch, it's going to be able to answer so much more.
Oh yeah, yeah.
NEO is awesome in certain areas, but you go outside those areas and it goes a little crazy.
It puts on its tin foil hat.
Yeah, totally.
But Enoch is so much better.
We're very close on Enoch, but I can't promise the release date of the GGUF files.
We haven't quite nailed down the alignment that we want.
But I do want to tell the audience that when Enoch is available, it will ship on your phones for free.
It's free to use.
You never have to log in.
You don't need an internet connection.
And you will get about 50% alignment, which means every other answer will be great.
I mean, that's true.
It's true.
And it's cool because you get to develop, it's not living, but you get to develop a relationship with it.
You know, you start to understand just like a human being what it's good at and what it's not good at, and you can just stick to what it's good at.
So, yeah.
You know, even popular AI models have those problems.
But one thing I appreciate, Mike, is the patience of knowing that, hey, this is going to change the world, so let's wait until it meets all of our benchmarks.
So we are super excited to be one of the first to have it on our laptops and our phones.
Well, let me show you this.
Bring up my screen.
So we have Enoch running on our servers right now.
If people go to brighthound.ai, they can use it for free.
And this has been out about a month or so.
We have, on our peak days now, we have 10,000 users a day.
Wow.
Using the engine.
Yeah.
It's great.
And it's just churning through.
You know, there's a queue.
Like you enter your prompt right here, and there's, there's ideas here, like if you need help with prompting, and then you can ask it anything you want.
And it, it, this has achieved 94% alignment with our reality-based testing.
Yeah.
Which means it knows all about the climate, it knows about the dangers of vaccines, it knows about, you know, anti-cancer herbs, all this stuff, right?
Even history, the Federal Reserve, you name it.
So this has strong alignment, but of course, it's over the Internet.
So in the long run, we encourage people to use these models locally in a decentralized fashion, which is what your hardware enables.
Right.
And, you know, it's a, it won't run as fast as the main model.
But we, you know, we're really looking forward to seeing its performance on some of these, all these other areas, which I don't think any AI project has done before.
Right.
Well, and I can tell you what we want to deliver to you is a seven.
billion parameter four bit quant model.
And the four bit quant will make it much faster.
However, it gives up some accuracy.
That is why the cloud-based model will always give the most detailed and accurate answers.
But sometimes you might be in the middle of the Amazon jungle.
You don't have the cloud.
You've got your device.
You need an answer right now.
Or you want to do it privately.
Yeah.
And so with this AI model, look, it's still going.
It's Oh, is it?
It was.
Is it writing a story whole story about the knee.
That's funny.
That's Neo, yeah.
Sometimes it just runs on.
It doesn't know when to stop.
Eleven different herbs.
You know, but I feel taken care of.
And that's the important piece.
Yeah.
So, yeah, and that's exciting too.
So this is what's running on my phone is also a seven billion parameter model.
Now, I know it's going to vary a little bit what the final performance is.
But if it runs like this, then I could see myself using that all the time.
I think it's going to run better because Neo was built on the base model of Mistral.
Okay.
Whereas Enoch is built currently on the base model of Quinn.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, and Quinn is the architecture is vastly better than Mistral.
But we don't have to use Quinn long term.
Whatever model is the best, we can plug in our training approach onto any model.
So we're going to be, you know, continuing to release new models based on different base models, especially as NVIDIA ships new hardware that allows us to do that more computationally efficiently.
Anyway, We're going to keep providing your company with whatever the best model is currently that fits.
That's huge.
That piece right there was key.
So Mike is sitting on an important bank of knowledge for all these things we should be learning, but no human can be a master at everything like that.
And when as AI technology continues to improve, we're going to retrain it on every single model.
Eventually, you know, Eventually, we'll have a whole library of really effective AI agents.
And I've already told my engineers to create a seamless way where people can just hit one button and it will automatically download the newest model.
See, that's going to be so cool.
So, yeah, what we've actually built is an ever-expanding training data set.
And that consists of both freeform unstructured text as well as question-answer pairs.
And that part is for a fine-tuning step.
But our data set continues to expand dramatically.
So we're building data, which is really the key to this, which means that any new model that comes along, we can alter it.
And again, with the new NVIDIA hardware, whenever it ships, that will compress our alteration time from, you know, let's say four months down to four weeks or two weeks or eventually four days.
You know, I mean, that's coming.
That's huge right there.
So with Enoch, the hosted version that you can use online.
Are you using people's questions to key in on, all right, these would be good question answers?
Are you using it to kind of refine it?
There's an option.
When you submit a question, there's a checkbox where you can say you allow us to use your question to train future editions.
So for those people that choose that, we are gathering their questions, but that's completely dissociated from their identity.
You notice we don't have any logins.
You don't log in to use our system.
There's no password, there's no identity, there's no fee, there's nothing.
You just provide an email where we send the answer.
So yeah, we do intend to use those questions, but so far we haven't.
We're just collecting the questions for the next training.
Frankly, we already have plenty of questions ourselves right now.
You know, Mike, I was skeptical about AI for a long time and I still am.
It's good to have a healthy skepticism, but being around a lot of investigative journalists, they're all pulling the pieces together as to how it's going to be used against us.
And I think the scary part is a playing field where the other side has guns and you don't even know how to use yours.
Using a knife or something, right?
Right.
And so I started coming around to it and realized that a lot of.
really important things that need to be built, we can use AI to help us do it.
Absolutely.
And I'm not talking about the Anthropics or the OpenAIs of the world.
I'm not talking about using them.
I'm talking about getting our own models on our own hardware.
Yes.
We can't be influenced.
And we're getting very, very close to that.
See, that's what's so cool.
Your notebook, the above book, is also going to be able to run the larger models even faster.
So let me ask you about the notebook that you have here.
Let's switch over to that.
And first, tell me about the specs.
How much now it runs a special flavor of Linux.
Yes, that's right.
So it runs a flavor of Linux called Arch Linux.
You normally, you have to wear a Fedora to wear this Linux.
I'm just joking, that's a joke.
That I'm trying to say, this is normally a flavor of Linux reserved for nerdy people, but our challenge was because there's so many awesome characteristics about this OS, we wanted to make it available to the masses, not just the nerds.
Yeah.
And so we decided to make a product out of it and make it so you don't even have to use a terminal.
So Okay, so we're going to share your screen.
And I want just give us a little demo of this Arch Linux because initially it looks kind of like Windows, but thank God it's not.
I'm so tired of Windows automatic updates and reboots and restarts.
And it's like, are you kidding me?
Yeah, especially as a researcher or even imagine the middle of the interview.
Yeah.
That's happened to me a long time in the past.
Exactly.
Our philosophy for this is we wanted to learn the good parts about Windows and Apple and take the good parts and leave the crappy parts behind.
So it's got things like gestures.
It's got things like multiple desktops that you can switch back and forth from.
I'm just using three fingers to do this.
So some nice stuff right there.
And then it also has things so you can do your work.
So this is an open source version of the Office suite That you normally find Microsoft Word or Microsoft Excel.
Which one is this?
This is called OnlyOffice.
OnlyOffice.
OnlyOffice.
Oh, okay.
And what I love about it is that it keeps the native Microsoft formats.
Oh, okay.
Because I've used like Libre and others, and they have their own proprietary file formats.
Yes, they use ODL, I think.
And it's funny, you know, among the team, we always have a competition.
It's like, no, OnlyOffice is is best.
No, LibreOffice is best.
And anyways, I so I really like OnlyOffice because if you come from a Windows environment, like all the formulas are the same.
So let's just look at this guy.
So you can load up an XLS spreadsheet in this Office suite.
Boom.
And it's already working.
Or word processing or whatever.
That's right.
Yeah.
So we, so you know, in our company, we are dog fooding it, which means we're using all of our products.
Everyone in our company has an above phone.
They have an above book.
And so we're doing all of our work through these open source softwares.
So even if you wow, is this onlyoffice.com?
Is that the?
They have an online version as well, yes.
So you can use it online, the cloud-based version.
Right.
And then you can also download it on any platform.
I see.
And when you download it, it's open source and free.
That's right.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay, so they have both options.
So it works, it works really, really well.
I enjoy it, and it comes default on every above book.
So that's one really cool feature.
Now, the other cool feature I'll show you is the software store, which our goal was, okay, let's take this highly technical operating system and let's make it easy.
If there's a software that you need, let's make it just point and click to install it.
So for instance, let's use zoom as an example because a lot of people I'm sure they're they're going to install zoom even though it it has a license to your likeness right they're still going to use it okay it's okay so you can see here there's you can just click the download button and then you can start installing it and then it'll ask me for my password and then boom it'll install it okay so And again,
just to be clear, I mean, there are no ties to Microsoft in this.
You don't have to log in to Microsoft ever to use this, I imagine it must be faster too, because it's not bloated with all the Bill Gates crap that's all over Windows.
Windows feels like Bill Gates' graffiti.
Like he's been tagging everything.
Tagging with every ad.
Right.
It's like, Stop spray painting my laptop.
Like, I don't want to know more about your picture of the day.
Yeah.
Right, right.
I don't want any of that crap.
Right.
So is it more streamlined?
Most definitely.
It doesn't.
So one of the promises we have for every single one of our products is zero connections to big tech.
There are the bad apples here.
You cut them out.
You're left with an experience that's so much faster and just, you know, it does what you want it to do.
and doesn't waste any resources on anything else.
So even these laptops, they're not brand new laptops.
They're renewed and they're running hardware that's just a year or two old.
So even with that, they perform just as fast as some of my laptops because they're running lightweight operating systems.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay, what about, so I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I have specific questions.
to the way I use computers.
But for example, if I'm running a local NAS unit, file storage unit, right?
And does does does in the past I've seen that Linux sometimes has difficulty like connecting to file shares.
But all my NAS units are running Linux anyway.
But they talk to Windows, obviously SMB protocols or whatever it is.
Does this have any problem connecting to like local network storage units?
It shouldn't have any problems at all.
In fact, if we look here for NAS, there's a few different, let's see, file system server.
So there's actually a way within our File Explorer here, you can connect to your nav.
And then there's software that you can download and we're happy to point you to the right one where you can connect to your nav server too.
I see.
Then it'll end up looking just like a drive.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Here.
That's what we want.
Yes.
So, yeah.
So if you're, if it seems like they're working with Linux or running Linux, so you shouldn't have any problems.
And I know that's a specific question.
Some other people, they might use clouds, right?
They might use Google Cloud or Proton Cloud.
And the quick answer to that is, will it work on this?
Yes, it will work because most of the time you can access that stuff through the browser.
And then what level of support does your company offer customers if they have questions or difficulties?
Yes.
Yeah, so we know that support is so important to the mission.
So with every device, whether you get a phone or a laptop, you get a free 45 minute support call.
And that's with a real live person, it's not with an AI.
It's not an AI.
It's not an AI.
You can run the Neo model and just let it tell stories for 45 minutes.
Don't tell them.
No, my support engineers would get very upset if we ever went that direction.
We feel like AI is a supplemental tool.
You need that human element, right?
That's right.
So you get that level of support.
You also have 24/7 email and chat support., and that's for the lifetime of your device.
Oh, wow.
That's huge.
Yes.
24/7 chat support.
We actually have hours from 9 to 5.
That's when you're most likely to get a response.
We've been known to answer on nights and weekends.
We're also working on tiers of support, and this is something that I'm pretty excited about.
Okay.
So there's, we'll be an insider level where you'll get faster answers, you'll get more call times.
I think that's the feedback we had is, you know, people want to use their devices for so much, they have so many questions, they need more call time.
And so we'll have a regular subscription that you can get.
Oh, that's a great idea.
Get more call time.
And there's even one that's a VIP where you can get up to six calls a month.
Okay, and browser, does it run Brave or what are you running as the default browser?
It runs a version of Chromium, which Brave is also a version of Chromium.
Pretty much anyone who's making a browser, it's a version of Chromium.
And then ours is ungoogled.
Right, so you've stripped out all the Google.
That's right, yeah.
It's a piece of software that stripped out Google.
Brave's browser to just public service announcement, there's telemetry included in that.
So, you know, Brave will also profile you locally to your device and that's how they do their ad system.
So this is a browser that doesn't make any third party telemetry connections.
Okay.
And so what it does as well is it's got different extensions that you can use.
So you don't ever see ads, which is really, really cool.
Oh yeah.
By default or you can add that extension?
By default.
Oh wow.
Okay.
That's great.
And does it have, you know, like stealth mode or privacy mode or all those kinds of things?
The privacy mode is the default mode.
And then if you want to get more private than that, not have anything saved on your machine, the incognito., we'll do that.
I know you've talked about how incognito, you know, it only protects you from local people, but when your device and the software surfaces you are using are already protecting you, right?
That's like the one, that's like the little extra you can do.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, next level of security.
Like here on this laptop that I have here, because I travel with it, I have it, I have the whole boot drive encrypted.
And so I use a piece of software for that.
I have to type in a long password just to decrypt it and even boot.
You know, it pops up.
BitLocker?
No, no, hell no, I wouldn't, no, I would not use Microsoft.
But my question is, is there is something similar that you can do to totally encrypt?
Yes, so you're talking about full disk encryption.
Right.
And full disk encryption will protect you from an evil maid attack.
Imagine, you know, you're out of the house, maid comes in, she tries to pull the data off your computer.
What an evil maid this is.
Evil maid.
Evil maid.
And so if your hard drive isn't encrypted, they could easily copy over the data.
Right.
Most people's computers are just like that.
That's right.
So our for me, it's like if if someone were to steal this on my travels, I want to make sure they can't boot it.
Right.
Right.
And so if they could copy your hard disk, they would be able to.
So now, these computers are, you have the option to full disk encrypt them.
It's selected by default.
So you would actually have to say, No, I don't want encryption, which we don't recommend.
It's pretty easy to break into a computer if you don't have full, it's pretty easy.
Wait, what are you saying?
These ship with full disk encryption?
They ship with full disk encryption.
I mean, they are encrypted when they ship.
They are encrypted when you ship.
Then you give the customer the decryption password or what?
We built a software that will let customers update their password on the machine, and then it will go ahead and re encrypted it.
re-encrypt it again.
Okay, with the new password.
Okay, that's right.
So, wow.
But then, okay, so when they get the notebook, the first thing they do when they turn it on is they have to type in the decryption password.
It's a very secret but easy default password.
Yes.
Okay, got it.
Yes.
And then from that point on, they're encouraged to change that password, obviously.
So first thing that comes up, right, you'll get the option to update your login password and your encryption password.
Okay.
Yes.
Well, we must be thinking the same because I wasn't even aware that they shipped like that.
Yes, they shipped.
The full encryption in place.
Most definitely.
I mean, it's we, you know, at our company, we try and focus on every single layer of the stack.
And also, it kind of blew my mind a few years back when I decided, hey, I'm going to try and break into an uncrypted laptop.
And it took me like three minutes.
Yeah.
And then I was like, okay, we're not, we're not ever going to.
Why don't you just pop out the hard drive and plug it into another system and just read it?
Yes.
I mean, it's not I know how to do that.
Yeah, it's really that easy.
Yeah.
So, you know, if you have an uncrypted hard drive at home, just keep a watchful eye on it.
It's just that physical, you know, possession.
That's all it takes.
Right.
So with this, here's the Brightion edition and this this edition of the operating system it's going to have the AI programs already installed and it's also going to have some nice Brightion theming but you have the option to pick the wrong button there so we we have this latest edition the aluminum six and you can actually pick the storage options so you have options from one terabyte to four terabytes which is pretty cool and
then there's also option for 32 gigs of RAM now we were 16's default 16's default okay but if you want to get ready to run a bunch of AI models 32 is pretty sweet and what we love about this is that it will do the 360 degree thing.
It also comes with a stylus.
Where's that stylus app?
Did I miss this?
Here it is.
Here it is.
So it comes with a stylus.
So you can actually draw things on the screen.
It's great for eSigns, all that kind of stuff.
Huh?
So yeah, I can control it.
I can control it with the stylus here.
So it's pretty, pretty cool.
But it's also a touchscreen.
It's also a touchscreen.
So yes, you can grab it., you can move windows around, you can snap them to places.
Yep.
Yep.
So there's a lot of different things you can do with a laptop.
And what we hope people do is people start their side projects.
Because it's like with these big tech companies, there's a few big tech companies and they're worth billions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars.
It's going to take millions of tiny companies to counteract that effect.
Uh-huh.
That's right.
Yep.
Okay.
So.
Talk to us about file sharing between the phone and the laptop because I know people that have iPhones and everybody who's on Apple is using the iCloud or whatever it's called, every time they take photos, it's uploaded to Apple.
And I'm like, are you crazy?
Why would you share everything with Apple?
Do you trust Apple?
You know, even if they were aware enough to make the choice, sometimes Apple will turn the switch back on.
Is that right?
So your photos get scanned by AI and they go to iCloud.
All the big tech companies have done that recently.
Now I know we're running short of time.
So our customers were asking us this question.
They're like, Hakeem, why can't I text people videos?
And I was like,'cause that's not actually a feature of text messaging.
That's why.
It's what Apple created on top.
Uh huh.
Uh huh.
So they needed a way to send files and videos to each other.
So We built this this year.
It's called Above Share.
And it lets you just drop any files in.
Let's get a picture from here somewhere.
Here's a picture of me saying hi.
There we go.
And then you can upload it.
You can go to your share, publish it.
And then now you have a link you can share with anyone.
Now here's the cool part.
is with your share, you can actually choose how long it stays active.
So I could say, I only want one person to see this.
And then it will delete itself.
And this doesn't use some cloud storage system.
It uses an above share server.
Okay.
The reason this is different, it's ephemeral.
So it's like things aren't supposed to live on here forever.
They're only supposed to live on here momentarily.
I see.
Maximum seven days.
So it's like the next time you're doing a major transaction or you're traveling, they'll ask for your passport.
And they really expect you to put your passport as an email attachment.
That's what most people do.
Really?
Yeah.
And it's crazy because that is open to the internet for anyone with a mail server.
Of course.
Right.
And so now it's like learning the shift instead of doing.
that, let me use a file transfer service like this.
Right.
Okay.
So this is built in automatic with AboveBook and the AbovePhone.
It is a part of our suite of software services.
So we have the phone and we have the book.
And then we also have our suite, which I'll put up here.
It's abovephone dot com slash suite.
So we run this on our private data center based in the US.
And it's all these different services that you can use.
So we've got things like our encrypted chat and internet phone number.
We've got things like our VPN and DNS.
We've got our email and calendar and then we've also got our file sharing and our video conferencing and also this is you get all this stuff for $100 a year it's all based on open source software and we minimize logging there's only a few things that we log which is our email server for 48 hours and then there's nothing else wow but most of our services we don't do any logging at all what about the VPN?
Yes, so the VPN has no logging at all and I listened to that interview earlier which that sounds like a really cool company a really cool guy talking about it but they talk about it's hard to trust a VPN company it is until you run your own VPN and then you realize yeah really just as easy as just not logging.
Yeah, right.
But again, you know, your company, we've been working with you for many years.
It's easy for me to trust your company because I've known you this entire time.
I've seen you at the freedom conferences, et cetera.
But these unknown VPN companies that are owned by, you know, certain nations, certain groups of people that are starting with an eye.
not.
not doing good things for the world.
They're scanning everybody's traffic, I think.
They are.
Yeah.
And if you look at, I mean, there's even, there's other projects too.
And you look at the founders, and they used to they used to work as part of an intelligence company.
Right.
What does that tell you?
Right.
They're an intelligence unit that started a VPN company to gather intelligence on their own customers to blackmail them.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's, it's unfortunate because they have millions and millions of dollars, so they buy everyone on YouTube left and right.
They do.
And we're a homegrown company with, without venture funding or really without external funding.
Right.
And so it's been the challenge is how to get our message out there and we try and we try and lead with our products.
So, for instance, Above Share, we didn't increase our prices when we released this.
We just realized, hey.
this is a gap and people need to have it yeah and so um the beautiful part is it's all open source there's also this aspect of not being attached to us what we want to do is create a model for other companies so that everyone at home can take this software and run it locally right yeah you're actually giving giving people the the freedom back and then they can choose to use it however they wish Exactly.
Yeah.
Can I show you one more thing on the course?
Yeah, please.
So we'll switch over.
We'll switch over here with the above hub that you get, which will allow you to make phone calls without any electromagnetic radiation, if you're cool to that sort of thing, if you're hip to that sort of thing.
So one of the really cool features about the phone is our internet phone number and then also our voice recognition, which this is offline voice recognition.
Oh.
It works directly off the phone.
Wow.
So it's not recording your voice.
It does a really good job.
See even caught you saying, Wow, in there.
It sure did.
That's amazing.
And that's local.
That's local.
And it also does 14 languages.
So really?
I was just in Japan the other month.
Okay.
And no one speaks English.
So I was relying on this a lot.
Oh, did you learn any Japananese phrases?
I did.
So let's do it.
You speak Japanese, I'll speak Chinese.
Let's try it out.
Okay, well, it's going to be kind of embarrassing, but yeah, let's try it.
Let's do a notes app.
Let me get you speaking Chinese, okay?
Okay, yeah, I'll bring it up Chinese.
Okay.
Just install the language here.
This is, see, I'm always putting you on the spot real-time testing.
I can handle it.
Let's do like Mandarin Chinese.
Boom, I installed my model, and then we'll go here.
Okay, let's do it.
All right.
You ready?
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, it does it.
It automatically recognizes it.
Alright, so 3, 2, 1, go.
你要不要��新的��服吗?
Thank you.
It wrote it out.
Well, okay, the problem is I don't read Chinese.
I only speak it.
So now you have to translate that.
Our Chinese friends.
That come out right.
No, that would be really cool.
We're also, okay.
I mean, it picked up some Chinese.
I picked up recognizing it.
But yeah, when I lived.
in Taiwan, so I learned to speak it, but reading, because there's no alphabet.
Reading's a lot harder.
Reading's different.
I think learning to read Japanese is easier than learning to read Chinese.
Well, it also has Chinese characters in it, too, the Kangi.
Exactly.
So like even, you know, some of my relatives who are, who are Japanese, they're like, we can't read the whole alphabet because, yeah.
Yeah, no, like, one time I was lost in Taipei, and, you know, there's all the road signs there with the road names written in Chinese, and I have to like ask a person on the sidewalk, like, what road is this?
They're like, dumbass, it's right there on the sign.
I'm like, I know that.
I can't read that.
It's like being illiterate.
It's like being, yeah.
So, but, but we're working on a translation feature and I would love to glue it to it.
Okay.
So you can speak into it and then it'll translate it.
It's coming soon.
We think by early next year.
So.
Well, that's cool.
So yeah, we'll just rely on our Chinese reading audience to tell us if that's correct.
I was asking if you want to buy some new clothes.
Oh.
But no, your clothes look great.
Thanks.
Not a comment on your clothes.
Health Ranger, now featuring clothes.
Yeah.
Yeah, the worst clothing line ever, like dirty ranch pants, basically, is what that would be.
Because that's because I just came from my ranch.
Dirty ranch pants.
Dirty ranch pants.
The knees are all dirt, covered with dirt.
Because my dogs and my chickens and everything, you know.
Someone might buy it.
It's a big world out there.
Pre-worn dirty ranch pants.
Yeah, I'm sure that would be a hit.
Okay, what other features do we need to know about?
so check this out this is encrypted messenger it's called xmpp it's two decades old and whatsapp and skype, Zoom, they all built their chat services on XMPP.
So they used this open source software, but they didn't tell anyone about it.
So this is proven software that anyone can run at home.
It's running everywhere in the world and it can scale to millions of users.
So I try and champion this every time I can, and we run our own private instance of this XMPP software.
So it's a messaging tool, right?
You can send messages, you can make calls, and you can also make encrypted video calls.
Really?
Which is really, really cool.
And what the coolest part about it is you can also get a phone number and it will bridge your communicications over the phone network.
No kidding.
And this is installed by default?
This is installed by default and all you have to do is log in to your AboveSuite account.
Okay, and what's the name of this again?
What do you call it?
This is called XMPP.
XMPP.
And this app, which has a phone number support, is called Cheogram.
Huh?
Cheogram.
Cheo.
Cheogram, yeah, it's the Cheogram.
Purple C right here on the bottom.
So, right, you see this thing that looks like a phone number in an email and that's telling Cheogram, hey, bridge this out to the phone network.
Huh?
Now you might be asking, Okay, well, that's cool, but I thought it was a encrypted messenger.
So does this encrypt my phone calls and text messages?
No.
It can't do that because there are legal obligations by telecom provider.
When it goes over the telecom network.
That's right.
But if it's just data to data, it's encrypted.
That's right, yes.
So if both people are on XMPP, it's fully and ten encrypted.
I see.
And this also adds some privacy on the phone layer because now you're not connecting to your nearest radio tower, right?
They're not going to be like, okay, Mike's in Tennessee and he's sending out a text message to this person.
He's right next to this radio tower, which only, you know, they have a range of about a few thousand meters, so it's pretty close.
Now they don't have that information.
Now they just have the one originating point for this internet phone.
And you can still make phone calls and you can still send text messages.
And the person on the other side, it just looks like a normal phone number to them.
But it's using the data of the local cell towers.
It is, so no, it's using the internet.
It's using the internet and then at a certain point when it hits the telephony server, it's going out.
It's like in Canada.
But I mean, if you're away from your own Wi-Fi, if you're out on the road and your only data is like cell tower data.
Yes.
And in that case, it's still dissociated from you.
Because it's not like, it's, you don't see the call record record next to the cell tower.
Correct, okay.
I tried to look at what they actually use in the court of law when they try to prove this stuff.
And it's really they look at the radio tower, they look at your phone number.
So this way, you wouldn't have the nearest cell tower.
I see.
The call data is dissociated from your internet usage.
And of course, you're using a VPN.
So that adds another layer of encryption as a cellular service provider.
Got it.
What you're doing.
Wow.
So there's a lot to learn in this space for end users who just want it to be easy, like you said upfront.
Easy is just given to Google and Apple., use their solutions, they're going to spy on you all day long.
Yeah, and I don't want to do myself the service by saying that this is that much harder.
It's just a little bit of learning, just a different mental model.
Okay.
And that's why education is such a big part of what we do.
When you get the phone, we have a whole university that you get access to as a course with the phone.
So you get videos, you get self service guides, and then of course you can always call us.
But for, I make it probably hard, sound harder than it is.
It really is just as easy as opening up the app and finding your contact.
A little bit of investment of just learning the system pays off big time.
Most definitely, yeah.
You can see that I have like all my work stuff here.
This is using our email and our calendar service.
I've got my, let's go up to the top here.
I've got my Brighton emails coming in, which is great.
I've got my calendar, which was sending me notifications and everything.
And so, yeah, you can get all your needs taken care of when it comes to like work or home.
And then the things that you count on like the WiFi, the Bluetooth, the GPS, all that stuff works like normal.
There's even ways you can navigate completely offline.
Okay.
Okay.
Wow.
Very cool.
I want to ask you outside of your product line, but let me just give out the website one more time.
It's abovephone.com slash ranger or actually slash brighton will get you there too, right?
Both of them.
Yeah.
Okay.
And there you can see the options that are available to purchase the de-googled phones.
or the de-microsoft laptops.
Both of those are available and shipping now, correct?
Shipping now, yes.
Well, so But if you show them our AI model?
Yeah, we're gonna wait on that.
So we'll probably start shipping them out next week.
Okay, but I don't think we're gonna have our GGUF available in one week.
Okay.
So then it'll be okay because you'll be able to download the model whenever it's ready.
Yeah, we'll make it available.
Yes.
So we'll start shipping them out next week.
And then we also have limited numbers of these phones.
For instance, this nine Pro XL, which is a really, really cheap price for the amount of hardware this phone has.
It's got 16.
If you can click on phone phones.
And so this is the nine Pro XL.
Wow.
This is the one we love.
It's the biggest, it's the baddest, it's got the most RAM.
You saw how fast it was running those AI models.
Yeah.
So this is the one you should aim for.
I'm shocked that AI can run that fast on a phone.
Me too.
It's crazy how fast technology moves.
Yeah, because normally you need a dedicated GPU to get that kind of speed.
It's, I mean, it's getting close to what you'll do on a laptop.
That's cool.
So it's really, really cool.
We were talking about this two years ago, and we were wondering about this.
Like, would it run on a phone?
But your team has figured it out.
Yes.
And there's, you know, we have a lot of open source software engineers to thank as well.
And it's really, really excitingiting to see it now in place.
We've been.
You know, what's interesting is like, so the phone could just run like a seven billion parameter Quinn model off the shelf, Quinn.
It can, I was straight up.
I was thinking about, I loaded Gemma on it, but you don't want to see Gemma.
Gemma is like very slow.
Yeah, I don't.
No, I don't want to see it anyway.
We found that Quinn is the least biased base model.
That's what DeepSeq is based off of, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Quinn is an Alibaba product.
I see.
But then different versions of Quinn have different levels of bias, is what we figured out.
And the latest version of Quinn is very much more pro pharma.
Pro pharma?
Yes.
So they were not pro pharma in the previous version, which is what we are actually using.
And then they came out with a new version, and I guess somebody shoved a bunch of pharma propaganda into it.
And this is why ultimately we have to build our own base model.
Yeah, it's unfortunate, right?
Because sometimes you look across the pond and some of the things that these countries are doing seem like, oh, based on the surface.
Really, the money will find its way.
The money influences it big time.
Ultimately, what we're going to have, and this might be 18 months away, I don't know, we will have our own base model trained on the data set that we are continuing to grow, and it won't be tied to anybody.
It won't be tied to Alibaba, Google, Microsoft, Meistrel, anybody.
It'll just be our own base model.
And it will be radically different from anything that's out there in a good way.
so excited about this and, you know, I can envision a future where you get a box and it's already set up with your hard hitting.
GPU in there.
We can have the model on there.
Yeah.
This is a, we have the technology to do this.
Yeah.
And it's, it's happening quickly.
Hey, before we wrap this up, I want to ask you about the misuse of technology.
A lot of people are concerned about Palantir, this project that, I mean, a couple of things.
It's spying on the American people.
And the excuse is, well, we have to find the illegals.
to get them out.
And then a lot of this tech was, it was demonstrated by the IDF in its choosing of targets to bomb in Gaza, which ultimately I don't know why they needed to choose since they bombed everything.
I mean, they just bombed the whole freaking place to smithereens, but they were testing Palantir-like technology, gathering up metadata, phone calls and everything to decide who was a quote terrorist that they had to bomb.
So Palestine became the testing ground.
for the surveillance AI dystopian technology that's now being applied in America.
That's how it happens.
Yeah.
There's these nice when it's far away from you, but now it's coming home and it's coming home really, really fast.
Palantir, funded, founded by Alex Carp and Peter Thiel of PayPal Mafia, you know, so many ties to the CIA.
And it's a story that everyone should be paying attention to because it's this new paradigm for surveillance.
We used to have different secret databases of people.
You know, you're like, okay, I'm on REX 84, that's with the FBI or whatever, or I'm on this separate list.
Palantir is taking all those lists and gluing them together.
So they have contracts with every federal agency.
and their contracts have now exceeded over a billion dollars with their latest contract with the US Army for 795 million dollars.
So they've already, within a few years, about a decade, they've already blown out every other technology provider.
And what we know about Palantir is ironically through a Freedom of Information Act that Buzzfeed submitted.
Buzzfeed evolved.
Interesting, yeah.
And so Palantir has these products that can pull data streams in on a regular basis and they will make digital representation.
representations of things in the real world.
So when they were making Gotham for the US Army, they were like, okay, here's our fighter jets, here's our artillery units, okay, and then here's this truck in the distance.
And they would pull as much information as they could about this unknown target and give you a likelihood, hey, this is 50% chance that this person is a terrorist.
Now, the way the LAPD is using it at home is they have contracts with other police departments and schools.
They have the traffic light system set up to feed to it, and now half the officers in the force are using it, and they can do it things like I'm looking for a suspect, a white man, six feet tall, skull tattoo, and it will pull up a list of everyone who's ever passed through the DMV or through the prison system.
And if you click on them, you can see who they know, you can see their family.
So it will drill down into their family, what cars they own, even when that car was last spotted in the city.
Really?
Yes.
I mean, so it's tied to like traffic light cameras.
Yes.
So this system is so active.
It's been active for years in LA.
But now with the so-called big beautiful bill.
bill, Trump's big, beautiful bill provided this massive funding increase for ICE.
But most of that funding is to build things like surveillance towers and like biometrics checkpoints on the highways, even far from the border.
You know, but it's all under the excuse that we have to deport the illegals.
Now, I mean, just to be clear, I think we should require people to enter the country only legally.
I mean, and if you came in illegally, you do need to go and you need to reapply to come back in legally.
I'm all for that.
But what I see.
is that this technology is going to be weaponized against us very quickly.
Yes.
You know, I mean, even if Trump doesn't do it, the next guy is going to do it.
And it's already happening.
And like if you protest against Palestine, right.
And you're not a, you know, you're not a US citizen.
Even if you are a US citizen, that's kind of becoming weird now.
Well, didn't Trump say he wanted to take away the citizenship of who was it?
Was it Roseanne?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I think it was Ellen DeGeneres or Roseanne.
Maybe it was Ellen.
Yeah, but I'm like, what do you mean, take away US citizenship?
You can't just take away a person's citizenship even if you don't like them.
And so this immigration problem, right, it's almost like Trump and Biden are playing on the same basketball team where Biden's ineptitude and failure at the border where this should never have been a problem in the first place is now being used by Trump's administration to create a Gestapo, right?
So it's really sad to see that.
And surveillance tools like Palantir, like what blew my mind is I'm calling this unified surveillance.
Right.
Because now in the back end, you know, Palantir could make a deal with anyone for their data.
They could make a deal with your grocery store.
You know, they could make a deal with your insurance company.
True.
And attach this data to their system.
Your healthcare provider hoover up all your healthcare information, weaponize it against you.
Exactly.
And so now everything is a target for this unified system.
And now another, like, you know, key move was literally the CTO of Palantir becoming a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army.
You heard about that.
Yeah.
I was like, what do you mean?
How come, how, suddenly you're a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army?
Because you're a tech geek.
Because you're a tech geek.
Yeah.
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
It's like, you know, they, Lieutenant Colonel manages over a thousand soldiers.
You know, they lead them into the battle.
That's cs like, why did Meta, why did OpenAI, why did Palantir?
Why did they, why are the CTOs, why are they now a part of the army?
What is happening here?
And my speculation is that, like, think about how much data Meta owns on WhatsApp, what's happening in other countries.
Now that can be integrated into this signals intelligence system.
Right.
Yeah.
So if you thought that the state went insane after the J six event and running around the country, rounding up all the peaceful J six protesters, most of whom.
did not trespass, did not smash anything, did not steal anything, whatever.
If you thought that was crazy, wait until this whole system goes live.
This is going to be a whole different level of insane spying.
Yeah.
When we don't really know right now what police departments are using it.
We know that, you know, every agency has contracts.
So it just, it's coming back to, you know, here's the bright side about it.
All these laws that are being passed right now, now privacy is not a choice.
Now it's a survival measure.
And that's the, that's like the saving grace to all this is now we don't really have a choice but to really live our principles.
And so cutting out Google and Apple are some of the best things you can do in your life.
Being more mindful about the technology you use, reading the trackers, reading what other companies are involved, it's these skills you need to develop right now before we turn into a situation where you have to present your biometric ID to access the internet or to buy SIM cards, like it already is in Mexico.
And didn't Australia just pass an age law where they're going to have to collect IDs from everyone by the end of this year?
Yes.
Just to use a search engine.
To use a search engine.
Now, now here's the cool part.
It's only if you have a Google account.
It's only if you have an account.
It's not for the entire internet at large.
Really?
Yeah, I read the code and it's like, it's only for people who have accounts.
So it's kind of interesting.
The laws are forcing people to become anonymous if they care about that kind of stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
So if you have a YouTube account and you're in Australia, you're going to get that age verification.
Which means you're going to have to upload your ID to some government database that's going to get hacked.
It's going to get hacked just like what's that company?
T. Yeah.
And all these women uploaded all their IDs while they were complaining about men, I think, is the way that, is that service?
So there's a safe space, pretty much.
Someone got T-bagged there.
Big time.
So that's all going to get hacked.
Heck, the entire U.S. military database was hacked a few years ago.
stole all the records.
It was like...
Yeah.
And it was also federal officials.
I mean, everybody, FBI agents, you name it.
It was all stolen, I think, by China or something.
And then China's still in our cellular, they're still in our telephone network.
And it's like, yeah.
CISA said, we don't know how long this has been going on and we don't know their level of intrusion.
And it's still like that.
So everything is susceptible, right?
Even the people at the highest levels, they're also prone.
So the question is, why should we trust some of this data?
Well, right.
And it's in the same you hear like, White House people saying, Oh, China's stealing your data.
No, you're stealing our data.
The US government's stealing our data every day.
And I'm more worried about them than China.
Yeah, yeah.
I personally.
China is not going to debank me because I don't bank with China.
I mean, JP Morgan is going to answer to the US government.
Worst case, I won't be able to buy a month of sodium glutamate.
It's kidding.
Okay.
So that's more of a Japanese thing, by the way.
Is it?
Ajinomoto is the company that came up with MSG.
Well, I guess I'm ignorant about that.
And now I'm suspicious about some of the food I ate.
Yeah, you probably got a dose of MSG if you're eating in Japan, yeah.
So it's, and then it's cool.
It's like the bright side is when all these things happen to our food, when they're injecting our lettuce with mRNA.
What do you do?
You just have to make sure you're growing it yourself or you're going through trusted providers.
Wow.
Yeah.
What a world, Hakim.
It's, you know, it's more complex to navigate, but I'm so thankful that you have spearheaded this effort with your company to provide some tools that can help people protect their freedom.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, it's, I always love coming on.
and getting into the weeds and like really trying to understand what's going on because it's ignorance that is the key to whether you'll make it or you'll be a slave.
Isn't that true?
Well, you're always welcome here and we're building a new studio.
You may have noticed some of it.
I don't know when your schedule will allow you to return, but it might be in the other studio.
Nevertheless, you're welcome here anytime.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, pleasure to be here.
Really enjoy working with you and let's talk about getting your phone set up.
Everyone at home.
This is the time to check out above phone.
So we've got these phones, we've got these tablets.
We have thousands of people using them.
It doesn't matter how old you are, how young you are.
We have 80-year-old grandmamas sending Monero transactions.
Cool.
More recently, we had a homeschooler get this as their first phone.
So people from all walks of life, they're all we're all stepping into this together.
So we're there for you.
We're going to help you.
You've got your free support call.
And yes, we're at your service.
Ask us, we've got a little chat button on the website and I hope to engage with you more soon.
Hey, when the Hunter Seeker extermination drones target humans that are on Google and Apple, the above phone users will not be on their target list.
They won't.
It's an extra benefit.
The Terminators won't know where to find you.
Terminators won't know where to find you.
You know, the Kamikaze Hunter Killer drones, that's what's coming.
Just remember to say thank you when the AI answers your questions.
They remember.
Treat AI with dignity is what you're saying.
I've seen videos of Chinese companies that have built robots and they kick them around to see if they can stay on their feet.
And I think that's a bad, that's a dangerous precedent.
It's a bad idea.
Don't kick the robots.
You've seen that video with, like, they've got the demobot and they're, like, taking away its, like, dog.
And then it goes on a rampage.
It just starts.
They took away its dog.
Yeah, they started beating its robot dog, and that put it over the air.
It's a fake video, but it's like a fake video.
It's a good one.
I saw a video of a robot that just went insane because of some bad code.
They've had it tethered to something.
I've seen that one too.
Yeah.
And now they have the fighting championships.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Kind of cool.
Like, so I want a little four-foot robot that I can kick its ass.
Just like a midget.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't need a big Terminator robot to fold laundry or whatever, you know, or pull weeds in the yard.
A little tiny robot is fine.
It'd be kind of funny if you had just a giant one and it's like, you're just sitting there and you turn and it's like standing right there.
Can I help you with anything?
It's like, no, no, go away.
Yeah, you don't want an ominous robot running around.
But I wouldn't mind a ranch-handy dog robot that can do things like pull weeds or can like treat fire ant hills.
That'd be cool.
With the orange oil that I pour on them.
Purr on, they like.
Mist it.
Yeah, or they can collect eggs from my chicken house, you know.
Like, little tasks would seem very helpful, actually.
From a utilitarian viewpoint, like, yes, there maybe there is a world where we can coexist and they can actually help us.
Yeah.
Maybe there's a version of the world where we could sit around all day and write poetry.
It doesn't I don't need to do that, but whatever, you know, whatever, they could handle some of the monotonous work.
Because, you know, living off-grid, there's a lot of monotony in just keeping the ranch going.
You know, so I'm open.
I'm open to a little robot that can pull weeds, basically.
Weed bot.
Weed bot.
I'm sure somebody else would have a different view of what that is.
That's multi-purpose.
Yeah, it's a robot that smokes weed.
Worst robot ever.
Which is basically like half the Joe Rogan audience.
No, I'm kidding.
Okay, sorry, Joe.
I'm just joking.
Before we get into deeper trouble, anything else you want to say before we wrap this up?
Yeah, so I'm just feeling really inspired to bring out more solutions.
I'm feeling inspired by guys like you, Mike, who just have such a mastery in many domains.
And so I started my own show recently.
It's called The Take Back Our Tech Show.
You can check it out on Substack.
So that's tbot dot substack dot com.
Oh, that's what that stands for.
I was wondering.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a weekly show.
So I try and cover all the tech news happening once a week.
Cool.
And I try to get it within twenty minutes.
Well, I usually fail at that.
That's hard.
But I try to get it within.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, soon featuring Weedbot.
Soon featuring Weedbot.
Okay.
Tbot.substack.com.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Awesome.
All right.
Well, thank you, Hakim.
It's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
Thanks for coming in.
Thanks for all that you do.
Looking forward to getting you the new model.
Cheers, Mike.
All right.
Good to be here.
Thank you for watching, everybody.
I hope you learned some things here.
It's really critical to get up to speed on how to protect your privacy, your freedom.
and use technology that doesn't spy on you.
So again, go to abovephone.com slash Brighton will take you to the page there or above phone dot com slash ranger and there's a discount code.
I mean, there's a there's a discount when you use that code at checkout I think it is right you enter it at checkout and it's all discounted.
It's all pre-discounted for you.
Okay got it and that discount applies to the phones and the notebooks.
That's right.
Okay perfect.
So check it out again above phone dot com slash Brighton and you'll get a 45-minute session of tech support with a live non-weed bot human.
who will help you with any questions you have get everything up and running so check it out and thanks for watching today i'm mike adams the health ranger and if anybody has a weed pulling robot we'll be happy to demo it here in the studio but i think my dog rody might tear it to pieces because he did that with our dtv mannequin a rip yeah it's missing an arm you know i said attack dog Yeah, yeah.
He doesn't like mannequins and robots.
Probably a good thing to have these days.
He can guard the inside of the robots.
Yeah, yeah, he'll, he'll rip Terminator's legs off.
He's like Chewbacca in Star Wars.
Literally.
Rips the arms off droids.
Yeah, very cool.
All right, thanks for watching.
Take care, everybody.
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