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Dr. Andrew Kaufman reveals the shocking truth behind the CDC psyop: THERE ARE NO VIRUSES...

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	Decentralized, decentralized, decentralized, decentralized, decentralized.
	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighton.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton.
	You're going to love today's show because we've got an amazing guest.
	And of course, I have an amazing co-host here of the show.
	It's Todd Pittittner.
	Welcome, Todd.
	Great to see you again today.
	Hey, Mike.
	How are you?
	Great to see you.
	I'm telling you, based on the feedback over the last half dozen episodes that we have produced, we're knocking it out of the park.
	People are loving the guests that we're having on, and today is going to be blockbuster.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	And just a reminder to the audience, if you're enjoying the show, then you want to check out all the other episodes at decentralize.tv.
	And if you enjoy keeping the money that you earn, that you work so hard for, you want to stay tuned to the after party to hear about what Todd has to share with you about keeping more of what you earn.
	But we'll talk about that later when we get there.
	In the meantime, I've heard Todd, some people tell me that they feel like they are almost addicted to the show or afflicted with the show as if they've been struck by a decentralized TV viral infection.
	Right, right, right.
	And those are the people who have who have not passed the NPCR test.
	You know, exactly.
	Exactly.
	But what if I told those people that there is no such thing?
	as a viral infection and viral transmission.
	And so you can't possibly be infected with this show.
	Wait a minute.
	You can't catch a DTV virus?
	No, you apparently you cannot.
	Or at least that's the assertion of our guest coming up today, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, who is the leading voice educating people about the grand hoax of modern virology.
	So, Todd, this is going to be a really amazing conversation.
	Are you ready for it?
	I'm ready.
	Let's get it on.
	All right.
	So, Todd, let's bring in our guest right now.
	Andrew Kaufman joins us, and this is going to be one heck of a conversation.
	Welcome, Dr. Kaufman.
	It's an honor to have you on today.
	Well, thanks a lot.
	It's great to be back and talk with you again.
	Look, I'm so much looking forward to this.
	And Todd, you may not even know this history of my relationship with Dr. Kaufman in terms of just doing interviews and knowledge and so on.
	But when I first heard Dr. Kaufman talk about...
	I didn't, because I came out of the lab science world and everything.
	And I thought that surely he can't be right.
	Surely.
	And then I interviewed Dr. Kaufman here and Dr. Thomas Cowan and others and began to do more research and began.
	And I tried, look, let me share this with you, Dr. Kaufman.
	My laboratory, which is ISO accredited, we tried to purchase an external standard, a certified reference material of SARS-CoV-2.
	Okay, which, you know, we are legally allowed to purchase.
	We have all the contacts with all the providers of certified reference materials.
	That there isn't one.
	Doesn't exist.
	Doesn't exist.
	So this is when I began to find out that what Dr. Kaufman is saying about virology is absolutely true.
	So that's my introduction, Dr. Kaufman.
	Thank you for helping to educate me, even though I was very reluctant to understand this.
	Well, look, if I had heard what I said as a younger man, I wouldn't have believed me either.
	So, you know, we got to be ready to hear something and look into it.
	And I'm glad that you were open minded to investigate it.
	And, you know, it's, it's one of the biggest and most fundamental frauds that's perpetrated against us.
	And, you know, we're indoctrintrinated to this argument from the time, you know, we're little kids, You know, being told not to sneeze on each other and such.
	So it's not an easy one to overcome.
	And, you know, most people are still, you know, even if they're aware of this argument, they're not really willing to consider it seriously.
	That's true.
	Hey Mike.
	Yes.
	Can I get this party started with my first question?
	Oh, yeah, go for it.
	I think it's going to be answered before I ask it.
	Okay, go for it.
	That is my strong sense, you know, and I'm Todd Rudamas, you know that.
	So, doctor Kaufman, thank you.
	Thank you for being here.
	I have a sneaky suspicion that I call them the Druid Babylonian bastards are going to.
	go back to their old playbook and they're going to launch another pandemic hoax again this year.
	And I'd really like to revisit some basic truths with you as a reminder to all of us.
	And, doctor Calvin, I'm going to make three bold claims and I would like your constructive feedback on each, okay?
	Here we go.
	Oh, wow.
	Take notes.
	Here we go.
	Not too many people are willing to do this, you know, Todd.
	This will be easy peasy for you.
	One, because if you disagree with me, you can say so and everyone can consider the source, right?
	One, viruses don't exist.
	List two, sick people are not contagious, and three, the germ theory is a hoax.
	Am I right or am I right?
	Well, yeah, you're right on all three.
	I thought you were going to say the opposite and make me explain it.
	But yeah, that's exactly correct, and those are, you know, three fundamental principles that actually impact us, you know, almost in everyday life, and they're all completely, you know, true the way you stated them and obviously false the way most people consider them.
	Yeah, and I just really, really wanted to review those three bold claims because that is what they are going to try to propagate again.
	And, you know, I talk a lot about having a dim view of humanity.
	I think there are only two percent of us who have the ability to critically think.
	But the other 98 percent are just going to take the same stupid download.
	But those of us who are aware and pretty much everyone who watches this show, you know, they're not NPCs.
	But yes, viruses don't exist.
	Sick people are not contagious.
	And the germ theory is a hoax.
	So let me add a layer to the before Dr. Kaufman, because we'd love you to to help explain this to our audience, but let me add one more layer, which is why this is appropriate for the show.
	Decentralized living is what we teach.
	And what I've come to find out is that the entire theory of virology traps people in a cycle of fear and obedience to centralized medicine.
	Nobody would have gone along with the lockdowns, which was all nonsense if not for the belief in the viral theory of transmission of disease.
	So that's why this matters for the show.
	It's all yours, Dr. Kaufman.
	Well, look, if you, and there's a good reason for that, you're absolutely correct, Mike.
	Mike, and it's because if you think about what we're saying with germ theory, right, that there are these invisible microscopic creatures floating around, we have no control over them, and one day they're going to come and get us all, that's a very scary proposition.
	And fear is the primary tool that centralized power can use to manipulate the masses.
	And so that's exactly why this is an extremely effective narrative, and they can definitely try it again, and there probably is a good likelihood of success.
	To look at the three issues somewhat independently, I'd like to just point out the body of evidence that would help you figure this out.
	And if we start with contagion, there is an excellent book published by Daniel Reuters, who's definitely someone you might want to consider interviewing, because he spent several years doing this research and he found pretty much every published study, which is over a hundred looking at contagion predominantly of colds and flues, which he published about, but he also found studies on other illnesses looking at contagion.
	And these were, for the most part, actually scientifically designed studies with valid control groups and an independent variable.
	And in every single case, they were unable to pass the disease of colds and flu and others from one person to another.
	Now that's that alone is shocking to a lot of our audience.
	They assume that you can just easily catch everything from airborne AIDS.
	to, you know, to the flu.
	They assume it.
	But you just said something really important.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, but you said when it has, when under controlled environments, when they have tried to infect people.
	from other symptomatic people.
	They have been unsuccessful at doing that repeatedly, correct?
	Yes, absolutely.
	And I'm talking about, you know, taking the body fluids, the same things that we're told makes us sick from somebody even with Spanish flu, like the life-threatening Spanish flu.
	There were several studies just on that with regular influenza, with the common cold.
	And in none of those cases did they have data that they were able to reproduce the symptoms in, you know, the people that were being experimented on when they got those body fluids both by natural routes like by breathing them in or putting it in their mucous membranes and also by even injecting it in them and other unnatural procedures like that.
	They were, you know, just not able to demonstrate any aspect of contagion.
	And, you know, there were even some studies that were done by the government without people's consent, you know, similar to the Tuskegee study where they hooked up people with prostitutes who were known to have gonorrhea and then they wanted to see if those men became sick with gonorrhea and they weren't even able to demonstrate it in those conditions.
	So really.
	And of course, I was totally fooled by this too.
	And we often observe that people get sick in the same time frame.
	And so that seems to validate what we believe about contagion.
	But every time there's been an experiment trying to test this, it should be a very simple thing to study.
	they just were not able to show that this is the case whatsoever.
	So there's got to be other explanations.
	This is one of the key questions that's been in my mind over these years thinking about what you teach is, is it your belief that there is some other mechanism of some kind of proximity or transmissibility that is not based on so-called viruses, is it possible there are energetic factors or common toxin exposures or psychosocial factors?
	I mean, how do you explain the common experience that people seem to experience sickness from group exposure?
	Right.
	Well, you know, for many things, there's no definitive study because of this, you know, reliance on germ theory as the putative explanation, but we can look at this several ways and these things are easily observable and provable.
	Like, you know, for example, one time I attended a family reunion with a big restaurant dinner and, you know, about maybe 40% of us got, you know, diarrhea and vomiting that night.
	And we didn't pass anything between us even though we had, you know, we all hugged each other and kissed each other and such.
	But it was because we ate the same meal.
	at the same restaurant, which, you know, was contaminated with something, right?
	So that is, you know, one explanation for a lot of these phenomena that we have common exposure.
	The same thing is true with, you colds and flu, right?
	We have a cold and flu season, and it's because we experience the same environmental changes of predominantly reduced humidity leading to our mucus clearance being turned off, and that results in that kind of expression of, you know, we call it illness, but I would say it's something different.
	And lack of sunlight and lack of vitamin D during colds?
	Yeah, well, those other things certainly can be implicated and they can make it harder for our body to deal with the changes in the, you know, just temperature and humidity that occur seasonally.
	So, you know, all those things definitely contribute.
	In fact, you know, I did a really deep dive to look at longevity and we don't really have good evidence from the modern era because everything is influenced by the modern lifestyle and the industrial revolution.
	But we have a lot of anthropological data from the colonial era with looking at hunter-gatherer societies, and some of them had some limited agriculture, more like botany.
	And among those people, and North and South America is predominantly what I researched, they didn't know of infectious diseases.
	Like they had no tu common cold, even, right?
	So there was something about the way they lived in harmony with nature that was distinct, and, and, you know, perhaps these things, these illnesses are not natural, but, you know, if there were viruses and bacteria causing illnesses, why would it spare that population, of course?
	So, but with respect to contagion, we can also look at various social phenomena.
	Like we know, you know, laughter is contagious, and that has been demonstrated in experiments.
	We know that women who develop close relationships that their menstrual cycles tend to synchronize in time, right?
	So people can influence each other in these other subtle ways that we don't really know the mechanisms, and it could be through some kind of energetic resonance.
	Like we know when someone toxic comes into a room to join the conversation, you know, everybody feels the tension, right?
	Yet we didn't receive a chemical from them.
	They didn't even open their mouth to speak yet, and we may have never met them before, but we still, you know, get that impression.
	There are some interesting studies looking at pheromones in terms of like attraction of men and women and such like that.
	There's probably a lot more to that kind of signaling, you know, hormones that we might secret and such.
	So I think there's a lot of stuff, rich, you know, material here to investigate, but I don't think that it's going to directly explain what we call infectious illness.
	I think we have to look at other things for that, like environmental factors and poisons and common exposures and such.
	Doctor, so we talked about the germ theory and that that's a hoax, and but please educate us on the counter to that, which is the terrain theory.
	And I believe that when we get sick and you use the word expression, I think our bodies are expressing or we are detoxing something, right?
	Our bodies are signaling every organ in our body, whether it's our chest, our skin, which is our largest organ, sweating, puking, the other direction, you know, and it's trying to get rid of something in our body.
	And that's what we deem to be sickness when in reality it's our body's mechanism based on the terrain theory that we are just trying to cleanse our bodies because our bodies are very good at their job.
	Can you please unpack the terrain theory?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So let me just talk about this detox, what you're mentioning first, and then I'll get a little bit into terrain theory.
	I mean, it's sort of related to it.
	Great.
	But, you know, detox has become sort of a buzzword and it's very misunderstood, especially by the mainstream, like it makes you sound like some chemical processor, you know, like factory or something like that.
	But it's actually very straightforward.
	It just means stuff that your body doesn't want is coming out of your body.
	So whenever we use the bathroom, we're detoxing.
	We know this.
	We know waste products are coming out.
	We know that it's nasty stuff because it smells bad.
	And the same thing is true when we have a cold.
	We know that the snot that comes out, it might be yellow, it might be green, it's gross.
	We know if we have an abscess that it's this nasty stinky pus that comes out.
	that's not good stuff.
	Our bodies And stuff that smells like that, we know not to put in our body, right?
	So it's like, I think we if we think about it just from first principles of nature and our observation, if stuff is coming out of our body more than usual, it's probably stuff that the body wants to get rid of.
	And in fact, there are many experiments where they test various types of secretions, like even menstrual fluid, for example, has been shown to be filled with chemical toxins.
	And it makes sense that, you know, because the female reproductive cycle allows this kind of purge every cycle, you know, with the moon, that that could also be a chance to get rid of other stuff that the body doesn't want and that could be why we find that in sweat is another thing we know that when we have acute illnesses we have fever and which and sweating right and we can find lots of studies where they see things in sweat
	like forever chemicals the PFAS BPA right and plasticizing chemicals heavy metals are in the sweat So we have direct evidence that these secretions are our body getting rid of these things.
	And this is what we really see during an acute illness or we might think about as acute infection.
	And if you look back at the original meaning of that.
	It doesn't that word was used before germ theory was predominant.
	So it means this acute experience.
	But I think what this is is actually the healing process of the body.
	If we're purging out these harmful substances, we can reason backwards that these things either had the potential to damage our body or resulted in some damage now that the body is recognized and is dealing with the problem and then is going to commence the healing of that area.
	Okay.
	That's a really great explanation.
	And thanks for that question, Todd.
	Let me jump in with a question here.
	Slight pivot.
	Dr. Kaufman, I've been wanting to ask you about the PCR testing, which I know to be a total fraud.
	And let me briefly explain how I came to discover that, which confirms what you've been saying about this.
	But of course, PCR testing is used to falsely diagnose people with a COVID infection.
	And, of course, my company, we run food manufacturing, and we are required by the FDA to conduct on-site microbe testing for E. coli and salmonella, et cetera.
	So we have incubation equipment and we go through that protocol and we do those tests.
	And then one day we were approached by a supplier of some of the mass spec equipment that we use, the heavy metals and the pesticide equipment, which is, you know, we always use certified reference materials for those.
	If I'm testing for lead, I have a standard of lead and I can see it.
	I mean, I can test it.
	I can confirm it and it's there.
	But this company came to meet with us to say, well, we can help you with your food safety testing.
	You can get this PCR equipment that can determine whether you have bacteria or viral contamination in your food.
	And I said, okay, that's great.
	How will it tell me the quantity of how many of these germs are in the food?
	And they said, no, it doesn't tell you any quantities.
	And I said, well, how do I know if it's enough to be, quote, contaminated?
	And they said, you don't.
	It's just, it's there or it's not there.
	And I said, well, that doesn't sound scientific because the FDA sets limits.
	And, you know, if there's one, quote, microbe or one protein fragment, that doesn't mean the food's contaminated.
	And they never could answer the question, and they don't have certified reference materials.
	You download protein sequences from an online library, so it's all virtual.
	So there's nothing real.
	There's not a real standard, and it doesn't give you quantitation data, which is necessary for heavy metals analysis.
	That's when I found out, Dr. Kaufman, that the PCR testing, the whole protocol, doesn't even make scientific sense.
	Does that ring a bell to you?
	Yeah, well, you know., there are so many problems with this, you know, and with respect to COVID especially, you know, there's no evidence that we knew any specific genetic sequence that could be used as a probe for the PCR.
	So without that, of course, everything downstream is going to be complete junk.
	Now, of course, with bacteria, we can.
	have pure cultures of various strains of bacteria and they have certain properties that we can assess through microscopy and staining.
	So we know they're real and we could have a pure colony of strain A or strain B and get the genetic sequences, but PCR is somewhat of a black box because one thing is it's really not supposed to be an analytical method.
	It's really a manufacturing procedure, right?
	It's you take something and you can make more of it, right, by this reverse transcription process.
	And so it's useful to assess things when you're studying molecular processes because you have a culture of cells and they have some signaling protein or something.
	It's only there in very, very small amounts that it's hard to even identify that it's there.
	But you can identify it with this and then you can make more of it and then you can compare its properties to what's actually in the cell and then see if it's the same thing.
	So for that kind of investigative and exploratory research, it could be potentially a useful tool.
	But adapting it to what you're talking about, it's very, very easy to manipulate the results that you can't trust that, you know, it's supposed to say that, you know, if we find something after we do so many rounds of amplification or you know manufacturing of copies of the piece that we're looking for right if we find it after we amplified it so many times then it had to be in the original but that's actually not the case because every round of
	amplification there's mistakes that occur and it could be making something that was never in your starting material to begin with and also the and and the more you do it at some point that's almost guaranteed to happen well well right but importantly the FDA allows this technology to be used to certify the food as clean and non-contaminated.
	So all over the country, people wonder like, how come there's E. coli in the peanut butter?
	Well, it passed all the tests.
	It passed all the PCR tests, but it was still in there.
	The bacteria colonies were in there.
	PCR didn't catch it, or the opposite can be true, the false positives where it wasn't there, and then it did catch it, but it never existed.
	The FDA says that's totally fine.
	Well, you know, Mike, if you're manufacturing a test for food safety, you definitely don't want a lot of false positives, right?
	So if you're in other words, if you're developing a COVID test, you may want a bunch of false positives to make it look worse and manipulate people.
	But if you're selling to food producers, you don't want false positives because that means they're going to have to throw out their product and make more and lose money.
	Right.
	So you would you would err on the on the other side.
	But, you know, for the viewers, I just want to point out that if there's E. coli in the food, that really means that there is shit in the food.
	You don't want to eat it because of that.
	If you had a pure culture of E. coli bacteria, it wouldn't do.
	do anything to you well yeah yeah and one more point on this dr kaufman is that in in mass spectrometry or liquid chromatography, we always have to have a certain signal to noise ratio to know that we're not just looking at background noise.
	Like we can't claim that we understand the quantity of something unless we have at least like a 10 to 1 signal to noise ratio, right?
	Or even for a non-quantitative, just whether it's present or not present, we would normally require at least a 3 to 1, maybe a 5 to 1 signal to noise ratio.
	PCR doesn't have signal to noise ratios.
	It can all be noise.
	Well, this is the difference between analytical chemistry and molecular biology, Mike.
	Like one is a serious scientific discipline and the other one is, you know, likes to use their imagination a lot.
	But you're absolutely correct.
	The degree of certainty and the method is really not sound.
	I mean, I actually worked in the biotech industry in QC to show that it was air.
	You know, I mean, that's how seriously it's taken.
	But in other industries, right, we can just basically as long as the government signs off on it, right, it's counted as real even though it's extremely fuzzy.
	And, and, you know, like I said, like you said, you can't get the colony counts to know.
	you know, does it pass the reference standard or not, right?
	I mean, because they're basically, you'd have to be completely sterile to pass their test theoretically.
	So, you know, it's, they must fudge it some way to get enough products to pass the test and it just you know it's basically just money changing hands is what I'm saying it really is it's not really telling you the truth it's almost a it's a ritual so as much as the scientific community talks about hard science being evidence-based when you practice their science in the food industry it's actually like the rain dance ritual of a of a tribe in Africa or something.
	There's nothing scientific about it.
	You're just going through the motions of this dance to claim that you tested the food and it's FDA approved testing protocol and you've filled out the paperwork, you've checked the box, the FDA audit says that's okay, but you could be shippinging out who knows what to the customer.
	It's truly a quack science ritual.
	You're reminding me of many surgical procedures, I think, really are the same thing.
	Like if we look, for example, at your knee arthroscopy procedure for the meniscus tear, which is a very common thing.
	You know, people have knee pain.
	They get an imaging study.
	It shows they have a torn meniscus, very common.
	So they did a placebo controlled study on this where they did sham surgery, like they just made an incision in the knee where the scope would go, and some people, and other people, they actually went in there and shaveded the cartilage out.
	They had the same amount of improvement in both groups.
	Wow.
	And this was also even done for bypass surgery back in the 70s at the VA hospital system, where they made an incision in the chest versus actually doing bypass surgery.
	And for angina, unstable angina, and they also, the people with the sham surgery had the same amount of improvement as the people that had the bypass graft.
	So this is a much more serious ritual doing a full surgical procedure.
	But essentially, once that's been shown, anyone doing the procedure with knowledge of that after the fact, right, is only doing a ritual or perhaps generating a lot of revenue.
	Wow.
	Todd, isn't that wild?
	I mean, how?
	It blows my mind.
	I mean, I'm trying to process that right now, especially with the knee that someone could do it.
	It's a placebo surgery.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, you know, it's important to note that, you know, you guys are very familiar with the FDA, but that they have to approve pharmaceuticals.
	And, you know, even with that, of course, there are so many dangerous pharmaceuticals that are ineffective.
	But for surgical procedures, there is no certifying body.
	And so there's no requirement even to do studies on these things.
	You only have to, you know, basically convince insurance companies to pay for it, and they probably, you know, have to negotiate with the hospitals for that.
	But it's, you know, very, very lucrative.
	Like one of the reasons why they were able to put so much pressure on the hospitals to do whatever they wanted, you know, meaning the government during COVID was because during the lockdown they canceled all the ambulatory surgery, like the day surgery.
	That's where they do knee artroscopies and other, you know, less serious life threatening procedures like that.
	So it's a huge, you know, huge business model with really no oversight.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Exactly.
	Okay, Todd, next question is yours.
	I just want to make a comment and humble brag, but you know what an NPC is, nonplaying character and Dr. Kaufman, Mike and I, we collaborated to file a patent on the NPCR test.
	And we are in that if you do, if you do not watch this show, then you test positive.
	for the NPCR test.
	Anyway, I wanted to actually get in the Wayback Machine and thank you because when I was when 2020 hit, it was just obvious to me that this was just all a scam, you know?
	But as I would start talking about it to people, I don't care if it's friends, family, you know, daughters, they looked at me like I am, I mean, like I was literally called a conspiratard and, you know, by really, really smart people.
	But you know what?
	I think of now because of you, because I started watching you way back when you kind of, you kind of accentuated my conspiratorsness.
	You know the best thing about being a conspirators, doctor Kaufman, is we don't have myocarditis.
	Would you?
	It's a good tradeoff, for sure.
	Yeah.
	I have a question for you.
	Can you discuss your perspective on the use of ivermectum, artemisinin, I think it's called, and fenodazol as treatments?
	And what conditions have you found them most effective for?
	So I actually am not in favor of any of those pharmaceuticals and I'll tell you my reasons.
	Tell me.
	And mostly I've done the research on ivermectin, not as much on those other drugs.
	But, you know, ivermectin, for one thing, it has quite a bit of toxicity.
	And I've dealt with that directly, helping a couple of people.
	And also it's been reported in the literature, like for example in the New England Journal of Medicine.
	There was a paper written by the poison control center, I think it was Oregon or Washington, one of those states.
	And because they had a number of cases of hospital admissions and poison control calls from people taking ivermectin prophylaxis during COVID, and many of those admissions were in the intensive care unit.
	I'm not sure if there were any fatalities, but just from taking it as a preventive measure, that's definitely not worth the risk.
	There's also a lot of evidence of fertility impairment from taking those drugs as well.
	And I've reviewed, you know, all the clinical studies for hospital acquired pneumonia and such and COVID with ivermectin and there's really no clear evidence.
	First of all those studies are very poorly done generally speaking but there was no clear decisive evidence of any benefit in those studies.
	Then we also have the issue of parasites and what is their true role in health and disease and this is something I took me a while to figure out because Once I started learning about natural healing and experimenting with different protocols and materials, the first time I did an And I'm not sure if I can talk about this on this platform, so you could bleep it out, but a turpentine protocol.
	You can talk about anything you want, Dr. Kaufmann.
	We are on the platform.
	Because I know on my own platform that would be shot down on YouTube and several other places.
	But I had worms come out of me in the toilet.
	that I saw, you know, these like maybe 8 to 10 inch white worms.
	They may have been tapeworms.
	I'm not a helmetologist.
	And that coincided with an improvement in my health.
	So that left me thinking, were these worms that were inside me, were they part of the problem or was there some other explanation?
	But over time, you know, and by the way, many clients that I've worked with and who have worked with lots of other people have stories.
	I've been sent lots of pictures of various worms coming out of people.
	So, you know, this is definitely a real thing.
	There's one woman who had an adult child, I think a son with autism and was using chlorine dioxide solution and saved all these worms in jars and had like basically a whole tabletop full of jars of worms that came out of her autistic son.
	A worm farm.
	So, you know, this is definitely a real thing.
	But what I find in really doing further research is that similarly, and this goes back to terrain theory as to how bacteria help clean up the environment and, you know, dying tissue and such.
	I think that these parasites serve the same function perhaps at a different stage in the development of the problem or, you know, for certain types of toxins.
	Like, for example, there have been lots of these, several studies of parasites like this.
	that have shown they contain high levels of certain heavy metals.
	And so could they actually be trying to detox us?
	We know that various parasitic organisms are actually used in medicine, even in mainstream medicine, like using maggots for wounds that are not healing or for burns, because they eat up the dead tissue and that allows the new tissue to form much more easily.
	And even tapeworms have been used in lots of clinical situations very successfully.
	So I think that most likely, you know, everything in nature is there to help us restore balance and health, if that's at all possible.
	And nature may also have a role that if we're beyond help, that it may help us, you know, go into the next realm.
	Like if we look at plants, for example, and there's a very, I think his name is Dr. Dykstra, an entomologist who's been mostly hired by the pesticide industry because, you know, that's who hires entomologists, if you want to make a living.
	and but his in his research has been really fascinating because he's looked at what's called the brick score which is a way to and he does it on the leaves measure the amount of photosynthesis in a plant which is a marker for how healthy the plant is and there's like actually a brick scale of health and he's been looking at all different kinds of crops that are susceptible to pests and that's you know the companies that try to combat that or
	who hire him but what what he discovered fits perfectly with this paradigm is that only unhealthy plants have pests and they're actually different pests that will go after plants depending on how unhealthy they are.
	So, you know, if we if you ever see mites on a plant, for example, that plant is about to die anyway.
	That's like the they only affect like the lowest healthy plants.
	And the plants that are very healthy, they practically have no pest infestation whatsoever.
	And so we know that our modern agricultural methods were making very unhealthy plants, and that's why they're so dependent on these chemicals, you know, for the plants to grow.
	So the same thing with, you know, animals and humans.
	If our body is in a good state of health, we're not susceptible to invasion by any other creatures.
	But if our health is suffering, then it's a different story.
	And they may actually try to help restore us.
	But if we can't be restored, then being recycled into nature is the next best thing.
	I want to add to your answer right there.
	And this is perfect for terrain theory.
	But if you, you know, I live on a ranch in Texas.
	And if you just observe how nature reclaims bare soil, for example, if there's been an injury to the grass, the plant life on the surface, and you have bare soil, then thistles grow up or large sunflowers grow up.
	And the first thing they do is they spread very rapidly and they cover the soil providing shade and protection from the intense summer heat and then that helps the soil fill in so that the next year the thistles won't grow there the next year the grass grows there and I don't have to run around pulling thistles and spraying weed killer on all the thistles I just have to understand that they have a role which is to reclaim the soil.
	And then the next year, everything's fine in that exact same spot.
	So, I mean, that's actual terrain theory for ground terrain.
	But Dr. Kaufmann, to slightly change the subject, but still related, I'd like to ask you to cover the fact that during the COVID years, 2020 and 2021, the number of cases of, quote, seasonal flu dropped off to almost zero, while the number of cases of COVID suddenly was incredibly high as the hospitals were getting compensated for COVID.
	Now, if the flu were actually scientifically evaluated and diagnosed, then this would be impossible.
	So doesn't this tell us that just the whole flu designation is also a hoax?
	Well, yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, that was obviously a bait and switch that they did to us.
	And yeah, I mean, so the flu has always been like a presumptive diagnosis until they came up with a PCR test for it.
	And that test is really in a clinical application.
	It's only used either for research purposes or...
	to see if someone qualifies for you know a toxic antiviral drug and those drugs are often given anyway even if the test is negative so right but Right.
	But yeah, you're absolutely right.
	In fact, you know, I mean, considering my experience working in hospitals in the pre-COVID era, and I did this in, you know, different contexts because at first I was a physician assistant.
	I worked in hematology and oncology.
	Then after medical school, I was a psychiatrist and forensic psychiatrist.
	But, you know, I've been, I've worked in ERs, urgent care center, primary care office, you know, the regular hospital wards, et cetera.
	And it was always like if someone has, you know, relatively mild, acute symptoms, that it's not obviouslyly something that you know, right?
	Like a heart attack or appendicitis or whatever.
	The always the default would say, oh, it's probably a virus.
	You know, it's like a catch-all was a catch-all term.
	And, you know, same thing with the flu.
	Like any bad cold, oh, it's the flu, right?
	It's just basically a word for a bad cold.
	Right.
	But not actually a scientifically distinguishable entity.
	And that's critical.
	for our audience to understand because they assume that hospitals are engaged in a rigorous analysis and confirmation of the flu.
	And that's why people run out and get flu shots, which, of course, we know, don't prevent transmission or infection or symptoms or anything at all.
	They actually increase your risk of the flu.
	If you take it three years in a row, it increases your risk of the flu, interestingly.
	I mean, it causes all kinds of other problems, right, like Yann Beret syndrome, et cetera.
	But just with respect to the flu.
	Doctor, I just want to gut check you here.
	You say it increases the that you're going to get.
	Now, this is by the faulty definition that they would use in research, okay?
	I was getting it.
	But I mean by their own publications, the same folks who would advocate for the flu vaccine.
	Let's rearticulate.
	It will increase the possibility that you're probably going to detox in some way.
	Yeah, right.
	Which will be called the flu.
	The flu.
	Yeah.
	It seems self evident when you say it that way.
	Yeah.
	And you know what?
	I mean, everybody, this is the soundbite that I hope you understand about 2020, 2021 is the big pharma, big medicine, they hijacked flu season and rebranded it as a COVID-19 pandemic.
	That's all they did.
	That's why you didn't see, well, that's why you saw the flu drop off, right?
	It was just a rebrand.
	And can I point out something here that is further proof that even the government agencies don't believe their own lies about virology?
	So it's as the CDC is crawling around the sewers collecting fecal matter for PCR testing.
	The EPA says you can take all that sewage with all the COVID and you can spread it on farms.
	And it's called biosludge and it's called fertilizer because it has nitrogen in it.
	They don't even believe their own lies.
	If it were all contaminated with COVID, how could they say, let's put it on the farms?
	Right.
	It's kind of eat shit and die, Mike.
	That's exactly what it is.
	And don't forget that in 21 states they also let you dissolve dead humans using lye and highly alkaline materials, and you can flush the human skin goo down the drain.
	This is 21 states.
	That goes into the sewage system, and it's legal to take that sewage and put it on the farms.
	Wow.
	Thank God they put fluoride in the water.
	So were you aware of that, Dr. Kaufmann?
	Who's dissolving human bodies besides, you know, the people in Quinn Tarantino movies?
	No, you go to states like Washington and Colorado and California.
	There are cremation alternative services that will dissolve the bodies and flush them down into the municipal sewer system.
	My God.
	So people want to become sewage.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	No, it's promoted as green and eco-friendly because then the bodies don't take up the space in the cemeteries.
	They go back into the food system.
	What about just burying, you know, your family in your back yard?
	I know, but that's illegal.
	That's actually a I'm not criminal.
	It's interesting that you say that because I actually learned from someone that if you do that, it gives you certain rights to the land that you don't normally have because it becomes designated as a cemetery.
	Yeah.
	Huh?
	So we'll have to keep that in mind.
	We'll have to look into that further.
	Yeah.
	Well, no kidding.
	But, but, but again, just think about the practice of all this.
	It's clear the government doesn't even believe their own lies, but they're willing to push it as a narrative.
	And coming back to the theme of the show, it's a very effective narrative to enslave people into automatic compliance with demands that would otherwise be considered completely insane.
	Like, you have to close your church.
	You have to close your gym.
	You can't have people working out.
	We close the beach.
	No sunlight for you.
	Right?
	Completely insane.
	You know, when there is an emergency declaration by the government, it throws all the constitutional rights out the window.
	And this is, you know, perhaps the biggest fraud that's perpetrated against us because all these other frauds, including, you know, the Patriot Act and many other things, are all part of that doctrine, including, you know, the endless wars that we are involved in.
	So, you know, we've got to recognize this kind of system so that we're no longer vulnerable to it.
	Yes, yes.
	And hey, before I forget, let me give out your website.
	It's Andrew Kaufman md dot com dot Let's show that on the screen.
	And can you just walk us through some of the things that are available through your site?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, one is that you can get my signature ultimate detox protocol for absolutely free just for going on my website and signing up.
	And I have a ton of educational offerings about, you know, demystifying germ theory and also about natural healing.
	They're all highly science and evidence-based because I'm only really interested in what works.
	So, you know, if you haven't seen my material before or any of my offerings, there are many free things on there from how to avoid the emergency department to learning all about minerals, men's health and several other topics.
	So check it out and take advantage of all that free information.
	Okay, that's that's really great.
	Yes.
	I was wondering if Dr. Kaufman's, all of his work is trained in or Enoch is in training is trained in.
	It has not been, but I absolutely welcome that.
	So Dr. Kaufman, if you want any of your material to be used to train our AI engine, if you can provide it to me, we would we would use it for training.
	That's quite an interesting proposition.
	I do have transcripts of all my content so that's perfect.
	That would be perfect.
	I'll talk about that after.
	That would be amazing.
	That would be perfect.
	I do have some books on this that the engine is trained on, so it's got some knowledge in this space, but there's such an overwhelming amount of provirology content in the world today that it's very difficult to overcome that.
	So anything you could provide.
	I've really understood.
	Well, definitely put in Daniel Reuters' book, which is called Can You Catch a Cold?
	And it's available, you know, even on Amazon, because it outlines, it actually goes through and summarizes every single one of those studies with all the references.
	So that would be potentially good to train the AI.
	And I think that's one of the most rigorous, you know, texts.
	But yeah, I would certainly love to contribute to this effort if we're going to get, you know, some truthful answers about health.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And our AI engine is always available free to the public.
	So it's not, it's not a commercial endeavor on our part.
	It's, it's for knowledge.
	So we welcome that.
	That's good because AI is definitely being misused by, by many.
	Yeah.
	Hey, doctor, you've outlined that most most health issues originate from three main causes.
	I think trauma, poisoning, and malnutrition.
	Could you elaborate on how each of these layers play a role in disease and how viewers can begin addressing them in their own lives?
	Yeah, sure.
	Well, you know, what I mean by trauma is both physical and, you know, psycho spiritual trauma, you know, like being a victim of violence, for example, but also a lot of other things are subsumed under that, like existencial crisis, grief and bereavement, relationship conflicts and things like that because they all affect us physically and emotionally.
	And what I'm talking about really in terms of poisoning is the exposure to mostly man-made synthetic substances, although there are some natural poisons that are problematic as well.
	For example, aflatoxin, which you can find in a lot of grain crops, like especially peanuts, corn, and pistachios that clearly causes liver cancer and liver pathology in general.
	But mostly what we're talking about is modern chemistry.
	right?
	Any plastic materials, clothing, textiles, cleaning products, hygiene and beauty.
	products, you know, even laundry, detergent, you know, you name it, there are these chemicals everywhere and some of them are extremely pervasive and you know they're still being manufactured and put in many products like the Forever chemicals and these things didn't exist in the past and also many disease conditions didn't exist in the past I think very few people realize even something we think of as so
	common which is one of the leading cause of death which is heart attacks The first heart attack in the United States wasn't reported until the 20th century.
	There were no heart attacks before the onslaught of all of these various poisons.
	Of course, immunizations and pharmaceuticals are another important type of poison and if you research toxicity to any part of the body you're going to find a long list of pharmaceuticals that come up in your research and I think in for most of us this is you know one of the biggest factors in many serious health problems And then we have,
	you know, malnutrition and part of that has to do with, you know, access to good quality food, especially in very poor areas.
	Part of it has to do with what, that we don't have the knowledge anymore of what's actually good for our body.
	So we can miss key things and some of the things that we're told that you should always make sure you get in your diet are actually very easy to get and the things that most people are deficient in, nobody knows that there's even a deficiency, right?
	in and you know a big example and I heard you talk about this on a recent podcast would be with cholesterol right we you know due to uh ansel keys and cherry picking and a whole you know conspiracy of the food and medical industries to demonize cholesterol now we have you know We have a big problem with many issues, but especially like testosterone, low T, right?
	Because our bodies make testosterone from cholesterol.
	And if we look at the data on cholesterol, and this is true even if we look at the so-called bad cholesterol, the LDL, if your level is low, that's the highest mortality.
	So, you know, that's the scam right there.
	We've kept you for an hour.
	Do you have time for at least one more question?
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay.
	I've been dying to ask you this one.
	And you spoke about the sham surgical procedures that really demonstrate the positive placebo effect, the power of the mind to make it real and to make the healing real in the body when that patient believes they've undergone a Western medical procedure that they believe is therapeutic and efficacious.
	But we also know that the mind can work in the opposite way to make negative things real.
	So my question to you is, Are there some cases where populations like let's say the people of New York City in 2020 are told that there's an outbreak?
	Are told that there's this horrible, you know, bat virus that got loose and that in some people their minds make that real.
	Like they become symptomatic because of mass hypnosis that is then blamed on a virus.
	Is that sometimes happening?
	Oh yeah.
	I'm absolutely convinced and have been for a long time and this is, you know, known as the nocebo effect and it's been shown even in scientific studies to be very powerful.
	Like they gave salt to cancer patients but told them it was chemotherapy and those patients lost their hair, some of them.
	Wow.
	Right.
	They were just given salt water.
	So there's some other cultural examples, and these aren't scientific studies, but they even say that it could result in death.
	So I think that during the lockdowns, and this definitely affected different areas in different ways, the amount of fear and belief about the danger of what was going on definitely caused a lot of people to be sick.
	In fact, I've suspected that a lot of the issue of people having a prolonged loss of smell actually could very well be at least partly explained as a nocebo.
	effect from all of the propaganda campaign.
	And, you know, I wanted to mention before about this, you know, way of manipulating people into fear and about these things.
	You know, I'm sure this is true in many governments, but in the UK government, there were some whistleblowers who talked about it, but they actually had this special government group.
	I think it's called like the SIRB or something like that.
	I have the references I can provide.
	And they were a group of psychologists and the government basically says, you know, how do we treat the population to get them to go along, you know, with lockdowns or masks or vaccines, in other words, to improve compliance.
	So they actually strategized and put, you know, major effort and resources toward this, you know, charade.
	Well, this also explains then the extreme aggression on censorship, because for the nocebo effect to work, they have to control the narrative and they can't allow voices to question those narratives.
	And you'll notice that extreme censorship in the medical space really began in about 2017, just a couple of years before this planned engineered pandemic.
	And I don't think either.
	And, you know, I mean, there's a lot of suspicious things that happen among these alternative health practitioners who have been successful in getting their information about it out and having, you know, a lot of successful outcomes with their patients or their clients.
	You know, people like Nicholas Gonzalez and, you know, many, many others that I could think of with a little more time.
	So it is vital that you have a strong narrative without any serious opposition because the strength of that nocebo effect is going to be based on the individual's belief in the proposed outcome.
	Well, and Todd, I'll turn it back over to you, but as a really profound and personal example of this, and I've never said this publicly, but Dr. Kaufman, since I abandoned my belief in virology, I have experienced a dramatic drop in any symptoms from any cause.
	I mean, really.
	And I consider myself to be someone who's largely in control of my own mind, you know, that's an important trait.
	And even then, I have been so strongly influenced or had been that just abandoning that belief made me less sick or more well, period.
	I think that's, you know, something that I probably also experienced, you know, because we really have so much power that we don't realize, right?
	There are things that are well documented now, you know, from scientists and universities like remote viewing and such that we have no idea that we can do.
	I've seen some of these things demonstrated, you know, in real life.
	And it's time to start trusting nature and trusting in ourselves because that's the only way we're going to be strong and healthy and be able to overcome, you know, this oppressive authority that's trying to, you know, manipulate us, enslave us and bring about our early demise.
	100%.
	All right, Todd, last comment.
	Goes to you.
	Thank you.
	I have a comment and then I have one last question.
	But my comment is, Mike, I like what you said about when you get right minded about virology, then you can actually take that five second rule when you drop something on the floor?
	Give yourself at least ten, fifteen seconds.
	You're never going to get sick.
	I'm just saying.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Listen, I know the floors are spotless in your house, so you could definitely do that.
	With three dogs?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, I have a five second dog rule.
	If it hits the ground, he's right there in five seconds.
	There you go.
	So, no, I I don't know if you rewind a lot of our DTV shows.
	You may know that I'm a food forest guy.
	We interviewed Jim Gale on our fourth interview and I installed a food forest right after that.
	And that was a couple of years ago and it's now coming into its wonderful fruit producing Mecca.
	I love it.
	So my question to you is, what role do you see for permaculture and organic agriculture in supporting natural healing?
	Because I know that you, in my research, that you've been a proponent of that, you know, and how it relates to decentralized medicine.
	Because I can walk in my backyard and there is a ton of medicine back there.
	Yeah, so my, you know, my philosophy with respect to health and medicine is that, you know, nature provides all of the materials that you need for optimal health.
	And of course, food is the biggest proponent of that.
	So, you know, I'm a big fan of Jim.
	I've actually been to his facility down in Florida at an event.
	And I love the food forest idea, basically like a sustainable, like perennial garden, right?
	That's so much closer to that kind of gatherer part of our ancestry where people had just amazing health.
	So I think, you know, it's key.
	And what we have to do is focus on food.
	that's in its whole natural state.
	And so when you pick your fruit from the food forest, that's exactly what you're doing and I'm sure you know it's important of course to take into account how you're cultivating that right and so maybe not specifically for a food forest but you mentioned biodynamic farming or regenerative farming and these are you know ways of essentially working with nature to produce an amazing bounty And
	that's how we're supposed to be living.
	You know, we're not supposed to be eating a chemical soup, you know, laden plant that has, you know, was barely alive when they harvested from it.
	So, and I think this can be done, you know, at least in part with a very little amount of land, you know, even a terrace garden, a parking lot garden.
	You know, for me, I spent a couple of years trying to find a bigger property because I want to, you know, engage in these types of activities.
	And in fact, I'm a little behind right now on some berry picking.
	because, you know, we have wonderful blackberries that are harvestable right now, among other things, almost to the apples.
	Next.
	So this is a really important.
	And even if we, you know, without respect to any particular variety of diet, you know, whether it be more vegetable and fruit or more meat, if you just focus on eating things that come from nature in the form that they come from nature, you know, not heavily processed and laden with chemicals, you're going to have major improvement in your health.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, it's a, it's amazing what we've been able to cover here today.
	And Dr. Kaufman, I really want to thank you for your time.
	I want to give out your website again.
	And it's Andrew Kaufmann, md.com.
	I'll have it on screen here.
	And I just want to thank you.
	I often think of you because you courageously defend your position despite the fact that it is so voraciously attacked by the mainstream medical establishment as we would expect.
	But I think back to the theory of plate tectonics.
	And plate tectonics was considered impossible by most geologists a couple of centuries ago.
	But it turns out that's the way the Earth's crust actually moves.
	And so, you know, when you're right and you stick to it, eventually, you know, the evidence comes out in your favor.
	And I think that the whole field of virology is actually, it's kind of self-destructing right now.
	Yeah, because of COVID.
	People have lost faith in the CDC.
	People have lost faith in the jabs and all the explanations and the PCR tests.
	And today, if they tried to pull the same thing, they would not get the compliance that they did five years ago.
	So that alone is a victory, and it's due in a significant part to your work.
	So thank you.
	Well, you know, that's very kind of of you to say.
	And, you know, it takes a lot of repetition.
	It takes many voices and it takes time.
	You know, I mean, we can maybe see right now that maybe virology grad school is becoming a less popular option, right?
	And then we give it a few more years.
	There'll be very few people even doing this.
	work, you know, discovering new fake viruses over and over again.
	So that's definitely something we can only hope for.
	But of course, you know, people don't stay fooled forever.
	Eventually, there's going to be enough accumulation of evidence that people figure things out.
	And, you know, whether that happens in my lifetime or not, it's definitely headed that direction.
	Well said.
	All right.
	Well, thank you so much for joining us today.
	It's really been a pleasure.
	And you're welcome back any time.
	Keep us updated on your work, and we'd be happy to share it with our audience.
	All right.
	Well, it was definitely a fun discussion, and we'd love to come back sometime again.
	All right.
	Thank you, doctor.
	We'll make sure that happens.
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	Okay, welcome back folks.
	Just wow.
	Like Todd, every time we have another guest, I'm just blown away.
	That's why I'm so glad that we're doing this show, even for selfish reasons.
	We learn.
	So much, every episode, and you know, I'm sitting here the whole time during the interview testing something.
	I'm like, if I look hard enough at Dr. Kaufman and at you, maybe I can catch a tan.
	And it didn't work.
	It didn't work.
	It didn't work.
	Well, your method is very good.
	Your melanin deficiency can be addressed by the fact that you live in Florida.
	What are you doing?
	How can you be so white and live in Florida?
	I know.
	You know what?
	I manage my food forest not at the height of the day.
	Maybe I should refound that, but I get out there because it gets so darn hot here, I get out there like at 6:45 a.m.
	So, oh yeah.
	That makes sense.
	No, that makes total sense.
	So, what did you think about what Dr. Kaufman shared with us here today?
	Well, like I said during the interview, he was really one of my heroes because I felt like I was.
	on an island in 2020, 2021, as many of us watching this show probably did.
	And it's like there was just nothing about what happened that resonated with our truth meters, right?
	We just knew we were living in a lie.
	And when I discovered Dr. Kaufman and on alternative media, right?
	Man, I learned so much and it reinforced, it reinforced my own internal belief structure.
	And I just knew intrinsically.
	that you can't catch a virus.
	It was you did?
	Yes.
	It was all BS.
	All the way from the beginning, which is why I never wore a mask.
	I exercised my internal middle finger, and I just would not bend the knee to the mainstream narrative.
	Well, no, I mean, then you were ahead of me on that because I did believe in virology most of my life, but I always had this question about, quote, colds.
	I was told, I guess, by my parents as a child that if you go outside when it's cold you would catch a cold.
	Right.
	But then the medical establishment says it's a virus.
	Right.
	I'm like, well, wait a second.
	Which one is it?
	Do you get sick from being cold or do you get sick from a virus?
	And how does the virus survive the cold?
	If it's winter and I grew up in the Midwest and it's freezing cold, where are the how are the viruses surviving all this?
	Right.
	How did the virus know to find me when I'm feeling cold?
	Well, first of all, they're the boogie virus.
	Like, but it never made any sense.
	The fact that it's called a coldold, tells you It never made any sense to me.
	No, but what makes sense is when it happens all around the same time, is that external changes, weather changes, et cetera, impact our body's need to detox, right?
	Yes.
	It's like it goes just like nature goes in seasons, you know, a tree is going to lose its leaves.
	I believe that our bodies, our cells, they're really, really good janitors.
	And I believe, based upon the terrain theory, that our cells are so smart, they call in these janitors that come into our cells and they sweep it up.
	And they blow a whistle and they take it out into the bloodstream and all of our organs, whether it's, you know, our skin or mucus or nose running or whatever, that that is just the trash that was cleaned out of our cells being expelled to ultimately make us feel better.
	That's why it's a process.
	That is not a virus that is attacking us.
	It is, it is, you know, a fish bowl that's dirty and you gotta put some plants in there.
	You gotta be able to do things to clean that fish bowl up.
	It's not that fish bowl caught a dirty smudge.
	Maybe that's the bad analogy.
	But anyway, I totally, 100% encourage people to do some really in-depth research on germ versus terrain theory.
	And I will tell you that the germ theory is based upon the Rockefeller family way back when inventing big medicine and big pharma to be able to make trillions of dollars off of us.
	Yeah, even the so-called Spanish flu, I think that was 1918 around that time.
	It was a total hoax.
	There was no flu.
	There was no Spanish flu.
	There was no Spanish flu.
	And in this, yeah, the 63 million was a BS stat.
	And it didn't come from Spain.
	There's nothing from Spain related to that.
	They just made up a name to scare people.
	And guess what?
	You know, that kind of sickness, it went away when they started, you know, having better plumbing, Mike.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Wash your hands, take a shower, get some sunshine.
	And you know, the other thing is, like, look at people who live in the London, people that live in the UK.
	They lack sunshine more than everybody else during certain times of the year.
	It's just rainy and cloudy and they're at a very northern latitude.
	So they are chronically vitamin D deficient, which is also evident in the proliferation of, frankly, dental and teeth.
	problems among many British citizens.
	I'm not trying to mock them for that, but that's vitamin D deficiency combined with indoor living and processed junk foods.
	Of course, you're going to be sick a lot if that's the way that you live.
	And in certain climates, people don't have a choice because it's cloudy.
	I would like live in Portland, Oregon or Seattle, Washington.
	Guess what?
	You're not going to get sunshine.
	So you're light deficient on top of everything else.
	Right, right.
	It's funny.
	I've even changed the language when I if I feel like I'm coming down with something is in my family.
	They know I like I feel like, you know, I'm in detox mode right now.
	right now i start doing things that grandma told me to do right drink lots of water uh cook some chicken broth, right?
	She was pretty smart on helping us get through our, you know, colds, right?
	Because that stuff worked.
	And it worked.
	Get some rest.
	Why?
	Because you're cooperating with your body to go through the natural detox of it, cleaning your system.
	Well, right.
	And we used to have hospitals in America that had sunbathing decks.
	They were the solariums, I think they were called, where they would take patients and get them some sunlight.
	Guess what?
	They got better.
	They healed.
	Right.
	But now everything's closed up indoors, no light for you, but sprayed with all kinds of, you know, toxic chemicals and then IVs with more toxins and more drugs.
	You know, it's become a disgrace.
	Our medical system has become a disgrace.
	And They totally discourage people from getting out in the sun.
	Yeah, they do.
	The mainstream narrative.
	It's almost like they don't want us living here that long.
	Well, it's like I did that article, The War on Light.
	Yeah.
	And the war on light shows, you know, they changed the light bulbs because the old incandescent bulbs used to emit far infrared, which is invisible to our eyes, but it's closer to sun sunlight.
	And then they replaced that with the flick of fluorescence, which are this weird blue light, really whitish blue light.
	Totally different effect on your neurology.
	All kinds of hormone disorders, all kinds of sleep disorders, cancer growth is happening more quickly because of all the changes in the light.
	And that was mandated, I think, by the EPA, which is the same group that says we could poison the food crops with the biosludge.
	Yeah.
	Hey Mike, I have a question for you.
	Yeah.
	What was it to where you pivoted on virology.
	Oh, what?
	It was when I tried to purchase the external standards at my lab.
	Because, no, I thought, remember, when COVID first began to break out, I was convinced it was real because I believed the videos coming out of China of people falling over dead.
	And it turns out that was all a hoax too, right?
	China was trying to scare the U.S. And they did.
	They did effectively.
	And actually, it was a globally coordinated, you know, SIOP, right?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	So I thought that, well, since I have an ISO-accredited laboratory with established relationships with CRM providers, that I could just go to their website, I could find a standard of SARS-CoV-2, I could buy the standard, and I could show people, look, here it is.
	This is the virus.
	Okay, silly me.
	I thought it was real.
	And then I found out that what you can buy things that are labeled standards, but then you read what they contain.
	and where they came from.
	And I was shocked to find out that what's actually in it is a bunch of cow blood serum, pig blood serum, and it was originally sourced from the snot of a woman who got off a plane at the Seattle airport who flew from China and who was symptomatic and thus they assumed she had COVID.
	Wow.
	So it's Chinese snot and pig's blood and cow blood is what's in that standard.
	And I'm like, wait a second.
	I thought this was supposed to be like certified 100% viral material.
	Right.
	Wow.
	It's not.
	There's nothing like that.
	You can't find that.
	So to bring the cookies down from the top shelf to the shelf, I'll understand it.
	You're saying that you could not source the actual COVID-19 virus.
	Right.
	That you could analyze.
	Nobody can source it.
	Nobody ever, right?
	Right.
	It doesn't exist.
	You can't buy, like, I can buy a block of lead.
	I can buy a block of gold.
	And I can test it and I can say, oh, that's lead.
	gold.
	I have the atomic mass.
	You know, I can put it in the instrument.
	You can't buy a block of any virus or even a powder of the virus.
	You can't, they don't exist.
	But Mike, 98% of the people, you know, that's my number, 98% of the people worship white coats, right?
	And those white coats would look at you and me and roll their eyes and say, pat us on the head and say, guys, go back to your little television show there.
	But, you know, it's it is maddening that these ultimate sources of authority in everyone's minds, they don't know squat.
	They're incredibly ignorant because I've asked doctortors if they know what's in vaccines, they have no idea.
	So they prescribe interventions that they don't even know what's in it.
	And even if you told them, oh, WI 38, MRC 5, they would be like, what is that?
	Like, oh, you didn't know?
	Because that's the cloning of the tissue of aborted human babies.
	Yep.
	So you have aborted human fetal tissue that's labeled these numbers and that goes into the vaccines.
	Right.
	So they're actually injecting today's children with dead babies from the past.
	It just, it just, it just pisses me off.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's medical cannibalism, but doctors don't know that because they are, you know, look, most conventional doctors are absolutely illiterate about health.
	Yes.
	And nutrition and food.
	They don't know what's in a hot dog.
	Right.
	Right.
	I mean, they'll lecture a person about why there's nothing you could have done to prevent cancer.
	which is a lie.
	And then they'll go home and eat cancer-causing sodium nitrite in their hot dogs.
	Right.
	That's how ignorant they are.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Amazing.
	It's bizarre.
	But see, this is why Dr. Kaufman is so effective, because all he's asking you to do is to use reason.
	That's all.
	But it supports my theory that 98% of the people lack the capacity to critically think.
	That's true.
	They do.
	And I want to congratulate the viewers here.
	If you are watching this show and you got to this point, I'm telling you, you are a two percenter.
	I believe that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And critically think because it's so rare, man.
	Well, but so think about it.
	We didn't even talk about Koch's postulates here, which probably should have brought that up, but nobody in the world has been able to take a person who they say is infected with COVID, extract the COVID from that person, have it in a little pile of like freeze-dried COVID.
	you know, lifelized COVID because freeze drying is the common way that lots of standards are preserved.
	Okay.
	And then to look at it under a microscope, there's the COVID.
	I can see it.
	It's waving.
	Hello.
	And then take that.
	Take that powder and stuff it under somebody else's nostrils.
	And then they get sick with the same sickness as the first person.
	That chain of events has never happened.
	Not once.
	And it never will happen because the COVID doesn't cause the next person to get sick and it doesn't even exist like that.
	And they say this PCR test can identify COVID and you know the inventor of the PCR test even said that that was BS.
	Right.
	It didn't happen.
	I saw the lecture.
	It's not a diagnostic instrument.
	No, no, they just spin it up higher.
	And what was it, Mike?
	This cracked me up.
	I think it was the president of Uganda or something.
	He actually sent to have PCR tested like an orangutan's saliva.
	Oh yeah.
	An avocado, yeah.
	Things, and they came back testing positive for COVID.
	Of course.
	And you know what's really bizarre in all this is you realize that Anthony Fauci also pushed the AIDS pandemic.
	Oh yeah.
	in the 1980s.
	And that was all based on total fraud as well because AIDS isn't a transmissible disease either.
	No, doesn't, because there is no virus that can be found in the blood of an AIDS patient that can be introduced to another person to cause AIDS.
	Doesn't exist.
	No, but they scare them that it does.
	And so they start taking the preventatives, Mike, and those are what made them sick.
	Right.
	ZT, right.
	All these other drugs that Fauci was pushing to create the sickness, to report more AIDS, to get more funding for the CDC.
	Now, let's go back to the beginning of the interview where I said that I have a sneaky suspicion that the.
	Druid Babylonian Bassards are going to launch another pandemic hoax again this year?
	Yes.
	Everybody, please just wake up.
	Watch this another ten times if it hasn't sunk in this episode.
	Share it with others, please, because this can save lives.
	It really can if people just wake up to this fact.
	We have provided a lot of help in the critical thought department within this show, Mike.
	Yeah.
	And I just, it's kind of our form of activism, folks, to help you decentralize your lives, and that includes decentralized living.
	Key word living.
	Living.
	And when you abandon the hoaxes, it helps you, it sets you free and helps you become decentralized in your life.
	Totally.
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	And we've all been living with all these hoaxes that we were taught since we were children.
	Right.
	Yes.
	And I guess the older I get, the more I realize that the hoaxes were larger and larger and larger.
	I mean, the whole field of virology is a giant hoax.
	Exactly.
	Germ theory is a hoax.
	I mean, yeah, but there are bacteria.
	We can buy samples of bacterial colonies like Dr. Kaufman talked about.
	Different story.
	Right.
	Totally different story.
	We can see them.
	We can see them under a microscope.
	We can introduce them and then they begin to multiply in the target specimen or the Petri dishes or whatever.
	We can see bacteria.
	I mean, I have a microscope.
	I had it sitting right here.
	Yep.
	But that doesn't work with viruses.
	No.
	Yeah, not at all.
	All right.
	So.
	I would just encourage people to watch this whole episode over again.
	If anything just was too shocking to absorb, watch it again and then check out Dr. Kaufman's website.
	Now, we have great guests here and one of the other big lies that I've learned over the years is that the government needs tax money in order to fund itself.
	It's a total lie.
	The government doesn't need your tax money at all because the government, of course, can print money.
	anytime it wants to, well, the Fed prints it and then loans it to the Treasury and then there's a bunch of IOUs.
	So all the currency is created as debt and then it's a, it's theft from us.
	So even if we did not, quote, pay taxes, through the collapsing value of the dollar.
	Right.
	And given the immorality of our government and its decision to build bombs and support bombing of children, et cetera, it seems to me that it's a moral duty for people to find ways to legally minimize how much of their money is stolen by their government.
	What do you say, Todd?
	Amen.
	Amen.
	And that is called tax avoidance.
	Tax evasion is illegal.
	We don't do that.
	But tax avoidance should be a sport and we should get really, really good at that.
	And that's basically just using.
	the rails that the system has created, you know, to our benefit.
	And they're out there.
	The entities are out there to be able to do that.
	Nelson Rockefeller coined the phrase own nothing, control everything.
	And it wasn't because he's a benevolent soul.
	It's because he wanted to protect his privacy, I mean, his property.
	He wanted to be able to pass it along to his heirs without tax consequence.
	He wanted to be able to protect his own personal liability.
	We are trying to be able to minimize tax obligations and frankly, I'm pretty sure none of these billionaires are paying penny one in tax.
	There are entities and I represent one.
	It is called an unincorporated nonprofit association.
	You can go to my website which is my five seventy five e dot com and you can simply hit let's go, put in your name, email address and then that will give you access to a ninety minute video where I interviewed Dennis Gray.
	He is the world subject matter expert on this entity.
	He has been helping people acquire them for over 35 years.
	He's helped over 1300 people.
	In the last two years, Mike, can you believe it?
	I've helped over 250 people acquire these UNAs.
	And then we have a private Telegram group that has grown to be the most amazing community I could ever imagine of playing characters, not NPCs, and that's where all the support happens.
	But I want to tell you, Mike, I couldn't wait to share this with you.
	Have you and I made an impact out there is my question.
	And let me give you my answer.
	I had a consultation this last week because folks, if you have any questions about this this entity, you can book a consultation, a private consultation with me through the site.
	It is $150, but if you move forward with a UNA, and most do, then you get that back.
	You take it off the top, the investment of it.
	But this gentleman, he, he, it was a great consultation, and I learned that he had, he wanted to not do zoom.
	because he wanted to have his consultation call on his above phone.
	He then placed his order through his above book.
	And then he has paid me in goldbacks.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	Isn't that amazing?
	He's using the ecosystem.
	That's operational privacy at its finest.
	That's awesome.
	And I just wanted to to share that.
	So hey, out there, if you're a W2 earner, a 1099 earner, if you're a member of an LLC, if you own property, if you trade in crypto, if you have children, those are all reasons why you at least want to go and download the PDF that I provide for free, watch that video and if you have more questions just, just reach out.
	Well, and you're the expert on this, not me, but I know enough to know that this is rooted in California state law.
	It's available to all Americans.
	However, it's not available to non-Americans.
	So yeah.
	Thank you for saying that because I have gotten a lot of Canadians reaching out, Australians that are like, hey, how do I get this going?
	And I'm like, sorry.
	I know.
	It's tough.
	It's tough to be Canadian right now with Kearney going on there and all that nonsense.
	I thought, could it get any worse than Trudeau?
	And the answer is yes, it actually can.
	But for all the Americans watching this, you can take advantage of this and it's rooted in law.
	And again, it's a legal structure.
	It's just very, almost nobody knows about it.
	And it was created by the California legislature many years ago as a vehicle that they could use.
	And at first, I believe it was only really known by the people who created the law because they created it for themselves.
	That's right.
	That's the history.
	That's the history.
	And so thank you, Mike, for letting me share that.
	And I want to also, we discussed it during the interview of Dr. Kaufman supplying his.
	material to you for Enoch.
	And I just want to thank you for what your team has created.
	I use Enoch every day.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	Every single day.
	It's, and I mean, every day.
	And it is just amazing.
	And you and I should do a show, Mike, on Enoch and comparing it to Grock and ChatGPT, asking.
	We shall.
	Let's do that.
	Yeah, I can't wait because we've made some major fixes and improvements also to Enoch just in the last two weeks, let's say.
	We've also switched the base model over to the French company, Mistral.
	Oh, wow.
	It's no longer run by the base model from Alibaba.
	It's now Mistral out of France.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, so we, this is, I mean, we'll talk about it during that show, but it's because the Mistral company has provided amazing tools to retrain their own models.
	And that combined with what we already developed over the last 20 months has enabled us to alter the Mistral models to to reflect our knowledge base.
	That's beautiful.
	So now it's all powered by Mistral.
	So, and it's all up to date to the end of June 2025.
	And pretty soon we'll be training it on July and then August, a month later.
	So it's not too far behind.
	That's been an amazing commitment.
	And I know that there isn't anything associated with using it that costs anything.
	You have given it to the world for free.
	And I just want to thank you.
	And I hope everybody at least goes and uses it.
	How do they get there, Mike?
	Yeah, let me mention, let me bring it up here.
	You just go to brightown.ai.
	Here it is on the screen.
	It's free, non-commercial.
	You can enter your prompt right here to start using Enoch.
	And your only limit at the free tier is 250 prompts a day, which is more than almost anybody needs.
	Nobody's going to do that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's just we don't want people just like doing a denial of service attack usage pattern or something.
	Got it.
	Pretty much.
	But then also to help support us, you can go to Health Ranger Store, which is our online store that provides the lab tested, not using PCR, but the actual lab tested using mass spec.
	instruments, ICP, MS, liquid chromatography, triple quad mass spec testing for the glyphosate testing.
	So we sell the world's cleanest foods and superfoods, personal care products, nutritional supplements, colloidal silver mouthwashes, toothpaste, as you know, Todd, you love our toothpaste and so much more.
	It's all available.
	Healthrangerstore.com.
	Everything we sell is laboratory tested.
	Most of it's certified organic and the products, we make many of the products ourselves and I am the chief formulator and I'm the guy who signs off on the formulation.
	So, you know, they're ultra, ultra clean.
	You can look at, up any of our products and check any of the ingredients you're going to find that they're pristine you really won't find cleaner formulations of any of these products anywhere in the world period And what's your other site, the deals that to where you can?
	Oh, rangerdeals.com.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Ranger Deals brings you all of our affiliate deals.
	Those are third parties that we work with.
	We don't carry their products, but there's VPNet, who we interviewed here.
	Yep.
	Matt Kim.
	But, you know, everything from gold to the peptides we've interviewed.
	to ivermectin for pets.
	Here's gold backs that you mentioned and much more.
	So, and, you know, the D-Google.
	the de-googled phones, things like that.
	Oh, Todd, I did want to say our friends over at Safrax.
	Yeah.
	They offered the chlorine dioxide.
	They got attacked by the EPA.
	The EPA issued them a stop sale demand.
	And it turns out the reason they did that is because the EPA demanded that Safrax turn over the names of all their customers in the state of California.
	No way.
	Yes.
	The EPA wanted to go confiscate the chlorine dioxide from California customers.
	And I don't know why it's just California.
	But Safrax said, no, we're going to protect the privacy of our customers.
	So the EPA ordered them to shut down all sales to the entire United States.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	So now you can't buy the chlorine oxide.
	Oh, that breaks my heart.
	I'm telling you, that's how evil the EPA is.
	And I'm not blaming Lee Zeldin.
	He's the new head.
	This is leftover from before he took office.
	But it's still running.
	They're still going after companies like Safrax to try to block people from having access to chlorine oxide.
	That's maddening.
	It is.
	But, you know, because chlorine oxide is so useful for so many things, right?
	And they don't want you to be decentralized.
	They want you to have to go to the hospital or they want you to buy their toxic, you know, antibacterial treatments or whatever.
	And that makes me mad.
	I have four large water catchment containers to catch rainwater from my roof and I use safrax all the time to just drop into those containers and keep it nice and fresh.
	Oh yeah.
	Me too.
	Well, but they tell me that their attorneys are working on it.
	Good.
	But the best case is it's going to take several months.
	They're going to have to relabel all their products.
	So it's going to take a while while.
	But it's just a reminder to everybody watching, When you hear about something here on the show or rangerdeals.com or Todd's website my575e.com, if it resonates with you, just jump on it because you never know when the government's going to come along and try to ban something or confiscate something or shut somebody down because the things that we are offering to you are things that help set you free and you're living under a tyrannical, authoritarian government.
	No matter where you live, they're all authoritarian.
	And they don't want you to be free.
	So they're trying to shut all these things down.
	So man, I don't know anything I could say better than that to wind up this show, Mike.
	That was seriously.
	Well, let's call it a day then because it's been a great show and a great conversation.
	And Todd, thank you for all that you bring to the show.
	It's always fun.
	It is fun.
	We learn a lot every time too.
	We do.
	Thank you, everyone, for watching.
	We couldn't do it without you.
	Yeah.
	Thank you all.
	And thank you, Todd as well.
	Have a great rest of your day.
	And be sure, everybody watching, be sure to check out the other episodes at decentralize.tv.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton.com.
	And of course, you're welcome to use the Brighton.com platform.
	You can upload videos, you can watch videos, you can share videos, and it's not censored, except we don't allow like porn and snuff videos and silly things like that.
	But other than that, politically speaking, it's not censored.
	So use the platforms for freedom.
	And thank you for watching today.
	Take care, everybody.
	Cheers.
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