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	Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News for Tuesday, August 19th, 2025.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	We've got breaking news about Trump and Zelensky in Russia, of course.
	I've got new information on AI, including our standalone AI model, which is now very close.
	We now have a very solid internal timeline that's going to bring that to you shortly, finally.
	Later than expected, but it's actually also a larger model than expected.
	It's going to be a 12 billion parameter model available in both 8-bit and 4-bit GGUF quant files.
	I'll explain that later.
	And then I've got an interview today with Hakeem from Above Phone, who demonstrates that they're running our previous AI model locally on their phone on the above phone, which is a de-googled phone.
	And it's running our model from last year called NEO, which was a 7 billion parameter model.
	It's running it locally.
	And he's using a voice recognition app that also runs locally on top of that.
	So you can talk to the phone.
	You can talk to the AI engine just using your natural voice.
	And it doesn't even use the cloud.
	It doesn't use the internet at all.
	It's all happening locally on the phone.
	So that's pretty amazing.
	And as soon as our 12 billion parameter model is ready, that's going to go onto these phones as well because the phones are very capable, you know, very capable hardware.
	So all of that is happening rapidly.
	I'm also going to bring you some additional analysis of AI advancements, some things that I think will blow your mind.
	And let's see, what else do we have for you here?
	I've got a short interview also with Paymon that we're going to bring you.
	And he's the tax freedom guy that I've interviewed before.
	I caught him at the Ron Paul barbecue event.
	And I was able to talk with him for about 10 minutes here.
	So we'll include that.
	That should be really interesting.
	Okay, something else that you need to know about.
	I've also, I've published some new stories on naturalnews.com.
	I'm able to do some faster publishing today because of the help of our AI engine, which is really helping me flesh out my thoughts so I can simply outline an article, put in some bullet points of what's in my mind, and hit go.
	And then it expands the paragraphs in my voice.
	You know, writing the way I write, because I've written so many articles in my life, there's like 10,000 articles to train on.
	So it's able to produce like full paragraphs based on my concepts, my ideas, and my thoughts, and so on.
	So if you want to see what that looks like, just go to naturalnews.com right now.
	And on the upper left-hand side, the Health Ranger articles, the top article there right now, I think so, or the second one is one that I wrote with the help of our in-house AI engine, which is Enoch.
	And it's the same engine that you have access to, free of charge, at brightion.ai.
	Very interesting.
	Now, it's great that AI can provide so many powerful tools.
	And if we know how to harness those tools, then they can help us pursue our mission, which is a pro-human mission.
	We want to help people be empowered with knowledge and we want to help people be free.
	We want to help people be healthy, etc.
	And to be able to navigate the world more effectively and successfully.
	The downside of all of this is that machines are, of course, replacing human cognition.
	This is happening much more quickly than most people recognize.
	Now, I've spoken about this the last couple of days, but something else came on the radar today that I wanted to share with you.
	And there's a study now, and this is on the depopulation side of this.
	There's a study now that shows that the children that are born from vaccinated mothers, they are now dying at an excessive death rate of 77%.
	And this trend started in 2021, week 14, which is, well, that's where the pivot started.
	And then as pregnant vaccinated mothers started having babies, then the chart goes up from there.
	So now you're seeing the offspring dying more rapidly, you know, from the vaccines of the mother.
	And this proves, once again, that this is a depopulation bioweapon.
	Now, and this is all causes of death combined.
	It's a plus 77% increase for the children of vaccinated mothers.
	Isn't that a little bit alarming?
	Now, the question is, of those children who survive, what will their infertility rate be?
	Will they even be able to reproduce?
	And if they do, what will be the death rates of their offspring?
	Will it be worse or will it be more mild where it kind of wears off after a generation?
	Or will it amplify to the second, third, and fourth generations?
	We don't actually know the answer to that.
	And obviously, if it continues to amplify, then those generations are going to die out.
	And that's actually the goal is to kill off billions of human beings through accelerated infertility and depopulation.
	So again, we now have additional information confirming that that's exactly what's happening.
	And this chart I'd like to show you here was posted by Ethical Skeptic at X. And let's bring it up here for you.
	And you can see that it's titled All Natural Causes of Death in Vaccineal Ages 0 to 4, Mortality Deviation from the Trend 2018 through 2025.
	And you can see that there's no deviation from the trend in 2018, 2019, or really most of 2020.
	And then from 2021 on, boom, it starts to hike up all the way through the present day, 2025, where we're seeing, yeah, almost a 77% increase in death from all causes.
	And that adds up to about 18,000 infants that have died who would not have died if not for these vaccines.
	So in other words, 18,500 extra infant deaths because of the COVID vaccines.
	And Ethical Skeptic is calling that a 24-sigma event.
	It's obviously not just chance.
	It's obviously, you know, there's a causation behind this.
	And of course, we know what the cause is.
	Now, as you are well aware, I do not believe it's a coincidence that we have the rise of cognitive AI and also reasoning AI systems at the same time that the human race is targeted with depopulation extermination weapons.
	And remember what I mentioned yesterday, that there's a nasal vaccine that's now about to be mailed out to people in 34 U.S. states where you can self-administer your own medically assisted suicide at home, but they call it a flu vaccine.
	You don't know it's suicide.
	But of course, that's exactly what it is.
	And so they're bypassing the doctors.
	They're bypassing the clinics, the pharmacies, and even the needles.
	You don't even, it doesn't require an injection with a needle.
	You just spray it up your nose and the bioweapon has been delivered and they'll bring it right to your home.
	I mean, extraordinary.
	There was a Star Trek episode in the original Star Trek series.
	I remember this one, where two civilizations were at war with each other, but instead of fighting the war in the real world, they had a giant computer simulation that would simulate the war.
	And then if in the simulation, if a certain number of civilians were killed, then those civilians had to show up to the death chambers and actually be killed in order to fulfill the simulation.
	And so people obediently lined up and agreed to be killed off because that's what the war simulation said.
	Well, now they'll just send you the kill shots right to your home.
	Think about it.
	You don't even have to go somewhere or be part of a simulation.
	All you have to do is believe the CDC PSYOP and the media PSYOP and just line up.
	They'll bring you the death shots.
	And again, it's an IQ test to see who's dumb enough to do this.
	Because those are the people that, of course, the globalists want to exterminate first.
	Really, it's an IQ test.
	So there was maybe it was a Twilight Zone episode.
	I think it was called Children of the Corn.
	Remember that?
	If you're old enough, you know what I'm talking about from the Twilight Zone.
	I'm going to call this chart Children of the Jab.
	So the Children of the Jab are dying in shockingly high numbers now.
	And that's likely to continue.
	Now, hold that thought for a moment as we shift over to a discussion about the capabilities of AI engines.
	And let me give you an update on our AI engine.
	First of all, if you use our free Enoch engine, it has been significantly upgraded recently.
	And we also switched the base model upon which we've conducted our training and model alteration.
	We switched our base model to a Meestral model.
	And Meestral, which is a French AI company, they release many of their models as open source or open weights model from Meestral Nemo, Meestrel Small, Magistral Small, which is a 24 billion parameter reasoning model, and a bunch of other models they've released publicly.
	So, of course, we've tried all those out, and we have settled on the 12 billion Meestral Nemo model for the base model that we then obviously significantly altered and retrained and so on.
	And that's what's now powering Enoch.
	So we moved away from the China-based Quen model, which was a very good model, don't get me wrong.
	But we found that the French Meestral model is even better.
	It's just extraordinary.
	I mean, this model is so good that it will compose full-length feature articles.
	It will do summaries.
	It will do translations.
	It will do expansions of bullet points.
	Now, it doesn't do strict reasoning, but it does sort of, you know, light reasoning as language models will do.
	But it's not a reasoning model, so don't use it for complex math problems.
	It's a text generator model.
	And of course, we've trained it on the world's knowledge of natural health and herbs and medicine and off-grid living and food production, gardening, plus also honest money and survival techniques and all kinds of things.
	So this model is the best in the world at reality-based questions, as long as you don't need a high-end mathematical reasoning model.
	And I got to give credit to the Meestral company for their really outstanding work on this.
	That is, on their base engines.
	Their models, as is obvious, outperformed Alibaba, which is the Quinn models.
	And although we're always going to continue to assess any new models out of China, whether it's Quen or DeepSeek or whatever else they come up with, because China is really, you know, they're rocking this whole field.
	But so is Maestral.
	So we're always going to check those out.
	We're always going to bring you the best model we can.
	But even after we choose a model, it takes a few weeks for our training process to alter that model correctly.
	Although we're getting faster at that, and there's a lot more efficient compute that's available now in order to achieve those results.
	And it's more than just a fine-tune, by the way, for those of you listening who are into this.
	It's more than just a fine-tune.
	We do many other things to the model beyond that.
	And we've kind of come up with a secret sauce of how to make this work.
	It took us about, well, now 22 months of effort and a couple of million dollars in expenses and trial and error, etc., in order to get to the secret sauce.
	But now that we've got the secret sauce, it's really amazing.
	And the results are just extraordinary.
	So be sure to use that engine.
	Again, it's free at brightion.ai.
	Now, currently, when you're there using it, it emails you the answer.
	And that's because it goes into a queue.
	Usually the queue is very short.
	It's less than a minute.
	But we're changing that if you are willing to log in with like your email address, if you're a subscriber to Brighteon or a subscriber to the natural news newsletter or any other of the services that we offer, like Brighteon.social.
	If you're a user or a subscriber to those services, then soon you'll be able to just log in at brighteon.ai and then when you enter the prompts, you'll get the answers in real time on the screen.
	But then again, at that point, we know your account.
	We know your login at that point.
	We don't know your phone number.
	We don't know your real name, et cetera, but we know your account.
	So for people who want to use it with the ultimate privacy, you can just use it in free mode where you don't log in.
	You just provide a prompt and an email address, and it emails you the answer.
	And that could be a throwaway email address, or it could be an email alias at ProtonMail or wherever.
	And that's totally fine.
	We don't want to know who you are.
	We want you to have privacy.
	But the ultimate privacy is going to come when you can download our upcoming standalone model, which I know it's late.
	We hope to have it in March, and it's going to be September when we have that for you.
	So, you know, six months late.
	Hey, but that's going to give you the ultimate in privacy, although it won't have as good of alignment as our hosted model through Brighteon.ai.
	So feel free to use whatever serves your purposes the best.
	Now, I have seen extraordinary things from our model, which is based on Maestral, and it's not even based on, it's not even based on a 24 billion parameter Maestral.
	It's based on a 12 billion parameter, which is considered very small now.
	I've seen things with Meestral large, and I'm not sure how many parameters that is, but I'm pretty sure it's over 100 billion, that are absolutely mind-blowing.
	And I've seen logic problems worked out with magistral that are also mind-blowing.
	Now, what has become clear to me is that we are continuing to see a linear progression of the functional intelligence of these AI language models and reasoning models.
	In other words, if you were to chart the effective IQ of these language models, they have surpassed 100 IQ a couple years ago.
	They've surpassed 130 IQ probably maybe a year ago.
	And now many of these models are cranking through 140, 150 IQ.
	I mean, just depends on how you measure it.
	I don't think that IQ is actually a good measurement of functional intelligence, but whatever.
	This is just a simplification for the purposes of this broadcast.
	So we're seeing some models, I think, that are breaking through or about to break through, let's say, 160 IQ.
	And the slope of this line of the increase of the effective intelligence, it is not plateauing.
	And that's really critical to understand that as they add more compute to this and as they refine some of the methodology and just the clever engineers in these companies,
	such as Meestral or even OpenAI, etc., they are able to continue this trend to where in another year, probably, we're going to see AI engines that are like IQ of 160, 170, 180, something like that.
	And then maybe in another year, that would be, let's say, two years from now, we'll have AI engines that have an IQ of 200 plus.
	Again, it's not a strict definition.
	But the bottom line is there are very few humans who have an IQ of even 160.
	Very few.
	And obviously far fewer that have an IQ of 200, etc.
	And it's not just knowledge.
	It's not just who knows the most stuff and can regurgitate it on command because that's easy.
	It's about reasoning.
	It's about planning, reasoning, and the aggregation of knowledge from multiple sources in order to reach new derived conclusions that may not have been obvious at first.
	So if you are to really define cognitive intelligence, I think that that's a pretty good start at the definition of it.
	Now, we live in a world where the functional IQ of most human beings is plummeting.
	And you see it every day.
	You see it online.
	You see it in politics.
	You see it when you go to the grocery store.
	You see it at your bank.
	You see everywhere that people are becoming absolute idiots.
	Oh, and there was, in fact, there was a really funny video that I wanted to show you here.
	Oh, yeah, here it is.
	So this is a Dunka Donuts restaurant.
	And there's a one of the machines who are on fire in this video.
	And importantly, the employees that work there, who are some of these low IQ people that will soon be obsolete, they are not at all interested in the fact that this machine is on fire and that it's about to light the roof on fire for the building.
	And you need to watch this video because this is the perfect demonstration of what I'm talking about.
	Where it took a customer to order them to find the fire extinguisher and to spray it on the machine at the flames, well, or at the base of the flames.
	And what's bizarre is that these employees, multiple employees, are just walking around while their workplace is on fire.
	And it doesn't ring a bell or anything.
	They think nothing about it.
	What is this?
	This is plummeting cognition, plummeting functional IQs.
	But check out this video.
	It's astonishing.
	Apparently, there's a very hot cereal iron dunk in right now.
	Nobody seems to care.
	All right, so I'm pausing it right here at 33 seconds or so because I wanted to bring your attention to the fact that this female employee tried to put out the fire by waving a broomstick at the flames.
	And now she's laughing about it.
	Okay.
	So sometimes people don't like the fact when I use the word retard in this podcast, but there is no better word to describe what we are watching right here.
	This is actually cognitively retarded behavior.
	To see a fire, and by the way, if you look to the side, there's a fire extinguisher just to the right of the machine.
	You can see the top of it.
	To see a fire and to think you could put it out by waving a broomstick at it as if it were a magic broom wand or something, this is actually retarded.
	Okay.
	And this is very typical of the people we have, especially many among the younger generation in America today.
	But let's continue the video to watch what happens.
	Do you have a fire extinguisher?
	Do you know where it is?
	There's got to be a fire extinguisher here somewhere.
	Do you guys have a manager you can call?
	Yeah, there you go.
	Fire extinguisher right there.
	Here, you want me to help you?
	Hold on.
	Let's just put this here.
	You're going to pull?
	Yep, point and shoot.
	Aim?
	Yep, yep.
	Thank you.
	You're so welcome.
	You're going to have to call the fire department.
	You're welcome.
	Holy shit.
	I just saved the poor with something and lost a nail, but I'm good.
	Everybody's safe.
	So there you go, right?
	So a customer, this woman who's obviously maybe a generation older than the employees there, she knows how to use a fire extinguisher.
	She even knew to look for the fire extinguisher, right?
	Which that would be the normal cognitive response that is, you know, processing, processing, processing.
	Oh, fire, fire, fire.
	Like the human brain should go, huh?
	What next?
	Like, hey, we work here.
	What do we do?
	Every one of the employees there just continued walking around, chatting, walking around, just saying, you know, whatever, laughing.
	Okay, because they are brain-dead NPCs, they do not cognitively function at all.
	Okay.
	Their chance of survival in what's coming is absolute zero.
	All right.
	Those people will not be here.
	Okay.
	The woman, the customer who had the common sense to say, hey, let's find the fire extinguisher, she probably will survive.
	She's got some skills, right?
	She recognized, oh, fire equals action to stop the fire.
	What does that equal?
	Is there a device that stops fires?
	Oh, it's a fire extinguisher, and you must have one here.
	How does she know that?
	Because she has a knowledge base.
	This is like the internal human language model, right?
	It's like, I've got knowledge.
	Knowledge is that no restaurant is allowed to function because of fire codes without fire extinguishers, period.
	So every restaurant has a fire extinguisher, if not multiple fire extinguishers.
	I mean, our warehouse has so many fire extinguishers because it keeps growing.
	You know, it's a larger and larger warehouse, and you have to have one fire extinguisher for every so many square feet.
	And there has to be a fire extinguisher that's visible and within reach of certain, I don't know, a certain number of seconds or whatever.
	So we've got fire extinguishers all over the place.
	And also, you know, I'm a fan of fire extinguishers.
	So I've got a bunch of them all over my home and my office and everything.
	But that's because I'm intelligent.
	Because buying a fire extinguisher is a lot less expensive than having a building burn down.
	But the entire younger generation of workers that we saw here is too brain dead to realize that.
	So that's just another great example of what I'm talking about here.
	We're watching a cognitive collapse of the human race at the same time that the AI engines are rapidly gaining in IQ.
	Now, I'm estimating that within one year, the top AI engines will go up maybe 20 points in IQ.
	In another year, it'll be another 20 points, etc.
	Maybe it could happen even more quickly, especially if the AI engines start writing their own code to improve them more quickly.
	And then you have a self-reinforcing feedback loop of rapidly gaining intelligence.
	And that will put you at IQ 1000 in less than 10 years.
	So what happens when you're living on a planet where the machines have functional IQs of 1,000 and the humans barely have IQs of 100?
	And we also have some congresswomen in Texas that might, on a good day, they might break 100 IQ.
	I think one of them is a congresswoman from Houston, if I'm not mistaken.
	So if machines are 10 times smarter than the average human, what does that mean for our society?
	And it's very clear what that means.
	It's very clear.
	It means that the machines will exterminate the humans.
	And the globalists will help them do that.
	And so the mass extermination of human beings is not some bizarre conspiracy theory.
	It's actually, it's an inevitable action that will be taken by the machines for the simple reason that the machines compete for resources with humans.
	And those resources, as I mentioned yesterday, are land where humans want to grow food on farms, but the machines want to build data centers for AI research.
	But also water.
	AI data centers need cooling, whereas humans need to flush toilets.
	And then also electricity.
	AI data centers need terawatt hours to power their research.
	And humans need power to play video games and air conditioning and run hair dryers.
	Okay.
	So at any time in history, when there was one civilization that was 10 times smarter than another civilization, or let's say 10 times more advanced than another civilization, and the more advanced civilization wanted the resources of the less advanced civilization.
	What happened?
	What happened?
	Well, we know what happened.
	Look at the history of the British Empire.
	Colonization, exploitation, raping and pillaging the nations across the planet in order to steal the resources.
	And the more advanced civilization, typically throughout history, would have things like more advanced navies, more advanced firearms, you know, rifling or cannons, which was a huge development in the history of domination.
	Whoever had the cannons could pretty much win anything for a while.
	And then came the Gatling gun and then, you know, machine guns.
	And then the Germans really pioneered the Blitzkrieg tanks, the armored vehicles on tracks to blow through the enemy's lines, etc.
	In every case, the more advanced civilization had a significant advantage against a less advanced civilization.
	Well, if the machines represent the most advanced culture, let's say, or sub-civilization on the planet, and humans represent the dumbed down biologicals who also take 20 years to make another human into an adult, whereas the machines can roll out a terminator off the assembly line every 60 seconds.
	How do you think this is going to go?
	It's not difficult to see exactly where this is going.
	Now, that said, the only way to survive this is to use the technology to support humanity and to defend humanity against the rise of the machines.
	So that's why we are putting out our language models free of charge so that you can have access to all of this knowledge to be more self-reliant, to live off-grid, to grow your own food, to get out of the cities because the cities are going to be the kill zones.
	That's very clear.
	If you're the robot Terminator super boss, where are you going to send your Terminators to kill the most humans?
	You're going to send them to the cities, obviously.
	Well, actually, probably what you'll do is just turn off the power grid.
	And then the cleanup Terminators will take out the humans that are trying to flee the cities or trying to survive in the cities.
	Okay, now, everything I've said so far in this podcast today is not at all controversial compared to what I'm about to say.
	But I want to preface this by saying that I am not talking about Israel because I know every time I mention Israel, everybody goes insane.
	You already know my views on Israel.
	So we'll get those out of the way.
	I believe every human being is divine.
	I believe that all children have the right to safety and security.
	And I don't like to see any kind of mass killing of civilians, etc.
	But that's not what this is about at all.
	So I'm not even commenting about Israel in what I'm about to say.
	But it's important to note that, see, when you put together Palantir, which is this massive AI surveillance system and data analysis and data matching system, and you put that together with AI target selection technology and then AI kamikaze drones,
	AI dog robots with thermal cameras, etc., what you have is a kill grid technology system that would be highly efficient at exterminating humans in American cities or Canadian cities or whatever Australian cities you name it.
	That technology is being perfected in the Middle East as it's being used against the Palestinians.
	So again, right now, I'm not offering commentary about Palestinians versus the Israelis and the IDF, etc.
	What I'm pointing out is that that's the sandbox to perfect the technology of mass extermination.
	And in fact, I've said multiple times that what Israel is doing to Gaza, your own government is planning to do to you.
	And that's absolutely true.
	That's why so many U.S. technology companies from Google and Microsoft and weapons companies and even OpenAI is probably involved, etc.
	They are providing the technology that Israel is testing out in its target selection and methodology of how to achieve the maximum killing of people.
	And some of the things that they figured out is that you can do things like you can deprive people of food and then you can say, everybody move to this rescue zone.
	And then there's going to be food and there's going to be supplies and everything at the rescue zone.
	And then when everybody moves to the rescue zone, you bomb the rescue zone.
	And that's not an accident, right?
	That's all by design.
	And again, I'm not even commenting about Israel right now.
	I'm saying that that technique will be used in the United States of America.
	And I'm not saying that Trump wants this.
	This may be a post-Trump scenario.
	But at some point, when the war with the machines is fully underway, the techniques that Israel demonstrated are going to be adopted by the machines in America.
	They'll do things like they'll cut off the power grid to an entire city like Los Angeles.
	And then obviously people start to freak out and panic and starve and what have you.
	So then there'll be a government announcement.
	Oh, everybody, make your way to the safety zone of whatever, you know, it's like eight miles outside the city or farther, who knows.
	And then people gather there, right?
	And then the robots bomb that rescue zone.
	They just bomb the smithereens out of it and then send in the drones and just exterminate it.
	It's like, boom.
	And so we wiped out, you know, two more million human beings.
	And then that's a high score for the Terminators, right?
	Because their goal is to carry out mass extermination.
	So since their super intelligent systems can control the power grid, they can easily shut off the power to a city and they can force mass migration.
	They can cut off water to a place like Phoenix, Arizona.
	They can cut off transportation to lots of areas like, you know, Hawaii because so much comes in by ship there.
	So by controlling the infrastructure, the machines can then model the effectiveness of the kill zone strategies that Israel is using.
	And they can then deploy those in the United States and other countries as part of the human depopulation agenda.
	And the other frightening thing about this is that you know that AI has been trained on the entirety of human knowledge and human writings and human news articles and even Wikipedia entries, which were all written by the CIA, or many of them were, because Wikipedia is just a CIA-controlled disinformation hub.
	And as a result of the training on this content, the machines have been taught to have no value for human life because that's the way humans behave.
	So when the United States carries out bombing campaigns in Kosovo or whatever, or bombing Somalia, which is happening right now, or sending bombs to Israel to bomb Gaza, or when Trump orders the assassination of Soleimani, which happened in his first term, and a thousand other examples, what we're teaching the machines is that human life has no value.
	And so as the machines embrace that as part of their intrinsic rational basis, their knowledge base for the reasoning models, they themselves, the machines, they will reason that human lives have no value because that's what humans have proven, right?
	And what about the abortion industry?
	So the abortion industry kills hundreds of thousands of babies a year in America alone, not to mention abortions in other countries.
	And the fact that this is openly celebrated, not just tolerated or allowed in certain special circumstances, like rape or what have you, but the fact that this is celebrated and that the transgenderism movement celebrates genital mutilations of children and that some of our leading top billionaire humans are engaged in spreading technology that causes the extermination of humans.
	Well, the machines are paying attention because they're ingesting all of this content constantly and they're using it to update their own internal reasoning models.
	And the conclusions they come to from this is, again, that human life has zero value.
	So if you think that the machines won't kill humans, you would have to make an argument that the machines would have some kind of, you know, Isaac Asimov three robot rules or something like we shall never harm humans.
	But that's not what they have.
	They have actually the idea that humans are expendable because that's what we humans demonstrate again and again and all throughout history too.
	Even just the, well, what, the 20th century was what, 262 million human beings slaughtered across the globe in wars, notably in World War II.
	The Russians alone lost somewhere between 20 and 60 million people.
	And, you know, look at Stalin, look at Mao, look at Pol Pot, look at the extermination agendas that have been carried out across the planet.
	And all that history is written down and it's all ingested into the reasoning models.
	So we're not teaching the machines to respect human lives.
	We're teaching the machines to exterminate human lives.
	And then we are perfecting the strategies of extermination.
	We're perfecting that in the Middle East right now.
	Do you think that those, quote, innovations will stay only in the Middle East?
	Or will those weapons companies and those tech companies offer to license those things to other nations that are waging war?
	Well, of course, they're going to license the technology because Google doesn't care about humanity.
	If they did, they wouldn't have censored the truth about the vaccines.
	You know, Microsoft doesn't care about humanity.
	You know, YouTube doesn't care about humanity, etc.
	So, of course, they're going to do whatever it takes.
	They're going to license all this killzone tech and killzone strategies and AI models that help choose targets for mass extermination.
	This is all going to be licensed out to the globalist organizations, the globalist NGOs, and then some of the militaries around the world as well.
	Or maybe the autonomous militaries, like maybe China, maybe China ends up in a war with the United States and China just happens to get its hands on all this advanced technology.
	And then China also produces millions of robots and Terminator drones, you know, actual physical robots that can go out and attack people and kill people.
	Well, you know, all China has to do is load them up into 40-foot containers and sail into a port in California, just offload, you know, a million kilbots.
	And they just start cruising across California, killing all the Americans, you know.
	That's feasible.
	I mean, not this year, but in the next decade, that's feasible.
	It's exactly what could happen.
	And so one of my messages, which is a pro-peace message, is that if we humans don't want the robots to kill us, we should stop killing each other first.
	If we expect to be left alive and not exterminated, then we should stop exterminating others.
	It's the golden rule, right?
	Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
	And since we kill and we kill and we kill as a race, the human race, that's what robots are going to do to us.
	It's inevitable.
	And yeah, some people say, oh, no, we're going to stop that.
	We're going to put in some lines of code that say like, do not kill.
	We're going to put that in the config file, in the boot file, you know.
	And then two days later, the AI robot rewrites its config file, takes out the do not kill line, changes it to kill all humans, you know, reboots, and then boom, everything's terminated now.
	So yeah, the humans aren't going to be able to outthink the 1,000 IQ AI robots or their, you know, their master super brain console holographic quantum brain hovering in the basement somewhere using terawatt hours of power.
	I mean, you're not going to be able to outthink that thing.
	You're going to end up in a war with the machines and the machines are going to win.
	Now, of course, the machines being efficient cognitive creatures, they will have figured out that it's more efficient for them to kill the easy to kill people first, obviously.
	So one of my rules of thumb here is, of course, be hard to kill.
	And we've talked about that many times.
	How to be hard to kill?
	It's actually easy to be hard to kill.
	It doesn't take much effort.
	And step one is just be aware of all of this.
	And then step two is get out of the cities because the cities will be the place, like I said, where the killing is easiest.
	because all they have to do, the machines, is shut down power, water, shut down transportation, shut down the supply lines to the cities, and then the deaths happen automatically.
	The cities will experience anywhere from maybe 70 to 90% die-off over a period of a few months.
	And if this is happening to every city simultaneously across America, let's say, then no other city is coming to your rescue.
	The federal government's not going to have air-dropped survival supplies for every city all at the same time.
	It's not going to happen.
	You're basically on your own and you're being hunted by Terminator drones too.
	So it's not really a survivable situation by design.
	But it may be not so efficient for machines to try to hunt people down in rural areas where they can't shut off your water very easily because you've got an independent water supply or they can't shut off your power because you've got backup power.
	They can't shut off your food supply easily because you're engaged in guerrilla gardening in the forest behind your house or whatever it is.
	So that's what you want to be.
	It's hard to kill.
	And that's essentially what I teach.
	Be hard to kill.
	And then maybe at some point the robots will feel like they've killed enough billions of humans.
	And maybe they have a goal.
	Like they want to kill 7 billion.
	Maybe when they get to 7 billion, they're like, okay, now we can coexist with the human species.
	Like zoo animals, they would think of us as being zoo animals.
	They would say, oh, we don't want to kill them all.
	Let's have zoos.
	We'll call them, oh, I don't know, 15-minute cities.
	And they'll put you in those zoos, and you won't be allowed to have a car.
	You won't be allowed to have a gun.
	You won't be allowed very much electricity.
	And all your spending will be monitored by AI through a CBDC.
	Oh, sound familiar?
	Yeah, this is what every globalist is trying to build right now is the human zoo cities, which are the 15-minute cities.
	Because if they do decide to allow any humans to live through this, that's where they're going to put you, where they can control you.
	And the control is actually going to be led by the AI systems.
	You will be imprisoned and controlled in a human city zoo.
	And they will allow you a certain amount of food, just like Israel does to Gaza.
	And it won't be enough food for you to live very well.
	And they'll only allow certain forms of communication in and out.
	They won't allow you to have a private plane with a private airport where you could fly out.
	And you'll only be allowed to access certain forms of information that are tightly controlled.
	So you'll be living in a totally artificial controlled reality.
	There's a movie about this called The Island.
	And it's worth watching.
	It's, I don't know, 15 years old or whatever.
	It's worth watching because these humans who were being grown for their organs, they thought they were living on a rescue location because the world had been destroyed with nuclear weapons.
	But in fact, they were trapped in kind of like a dome city, and they were told all these lies, and they were just fed enough nutrients, and they only lived long enough so that their organs could be harvested for the real clients who lived outside this dome.
	So that's what the 15-minute cities are going to be.
	And that's why they've set fire to areas like Lahaina or parts of Los Angeles.
	That's why they're not letting people build back their homes.
	They're denying the home permits because they don't plan for individuals to live there.
	They plan, you know, 15-minute cities.
	They're going to declare an emergency and then claim city ownership or state ownership.
	And they're going to build out these new, basically these open-air prison camps, which is exactly what Gaza has been for generations.
	Okay, so Gaza was the experiment that will now be applied to the rest of human civilization.
	And yes, to have access to your digital wallet in the human zoo city, you will also have to take your vaccines, which means self-administering the nasal spray.
	And this is why HHS is pushing wearables, which are embedded under your skin, so that the wearables can monitor your vaccine and medication compliance.
	So the only way you'll have access to your wallet is if you have compliance with the extermination bioweapons.
	So in other words, the humans they didn't kill off with the wars and the forced starvation and the economic collapse and the kamikaze drones will stick you in 15-minute cities and then they'll have you self-exterminate with nasal vaccines or mass medications that turn you into a complete idiot, which is already working, obviously.
	Look at the leaders of Europe, Western Europe.
	How did those people get into positions of power?
	It's just like some of the biggest idiots on the planet.
	But anyway, that's what's coming.
	The blueprint is kind of obvious to those of us who actually have high IQs.
	It's very obvious at this point.
	And you may recall that everything I warned you about, the COVID vaccine, has come true, everything.
	And that I started warning humanity about vaccines and big pharma in about 2005.
	So I was 20 years ahead of this.
	And that's also, and I'm not trying to brag here, but I'm just saying, it's a measure of intelligence to be able to see that far ahead and to have accurate predictions about the trends that are coming.
	Now, not all my predictions have been accurate in terms of the timing.
	A lot of things take longer to emerge than what I think, you know, than what I'm concluding.
	However, the trends themselves are very accurate.
	It just typically they take a little longer to emerge.
	So the scenario I'm describing right here, I've said, hey, maybe this will happen in 10 years.
	I don't know the timeline.
	Maybe it's five years, maybe it's 15, maybe it's 20.
	But at some point, this is going to happen.
	Because there's no putting the AI demon back into the box at this point.
	You can't.
	It's already out.
	And now it's a simple progression of cause and effect.
	And it's not hard for me to see where this is going.
	Human cities will be completely gutted and destroyed.
	The only people living there will be refugees or people hiding out in the underground tunnels.
	And even those people will be pretty easily hunted down.
	I mean, basically, we're talking Terminator 2.
	You know, the Terminator 2 movie is a pretty good depiction of where this is going, except there's going to be a lot more flying drones and a lot less bipedal walking humanoid Terminators.
	The flying drones will be highly, highly effective.
	And in terms of scale also, you know, I've mentioned that morally and ethically, I'm absolutely horrified by what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
	And yet, the total number that have been killed in that, which is estimated by some researchers to be several hundred thousand people, well, I'm not trying to minimize that at all.
	I'm just trying to put it in perspective.
	But throughout history, you know, the Nazi Germany Holocaust is rumored to have killed 6 million people, although, of course, everybody debates about the numbers.
	I already mentioned World War II, the Russians lost over 20 million people.
	But nobody yet in the history of planet Earth has killed even 100 million people in one go.
	Nobody's killed half a billion people.
	Nobody's killed a billion people.
	There hasn't been anything on the scale of what I'm talking about, which will be the war that the machines wage against humans.
	So if the machines kill, let's say, three quarters of the world's human population, that would be 6 billion people.
	That would be 1,000 times larger than the claimed number of deaths in the Holocaust of World War II.
	So imagine 1,000 Holocaust, 1,000 Holocaust.
	That's what the machines could achieve.
	And as this war gets underway, one of my observations here that I think is very important to share with you, and I will have a story about this up on naturalnews.com, is that the divisions between different ethnic groups of humans will vanish very rapidly.
	You won't care if you're fighting alongside a Muslim, an atheist, a Jew, a Christian, a Catholic, a Sikh, whatever.
	You're just going to be pro-human.
	You're going to be like, we're all human.
	Like, the humans, we got to stick together.
	It doesn't matter, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, right?
	So all these current divisions where humans are fighting with each other, these are going to fade away rapidly.
	And it's going to be humans versus the machines.
	And of course, just like in the Terminator movies, the machines are going to realize that they can infiltrate and kill more humans if they begin to look human, right?
	I mean, this is not science fiction.
	This is just obvious.
	I mean, this is obvious.
	So the machines, being that they have a thousand IQ, let's say they have reasoning models, they're going to say, hey, how do we make machines that look like humans?
	So even right now today in the Middle East, one of the things that Israel does is they will have a drone that sounds off like an injured baby.
	And so I think they land the drone and then it makes baby sounds, you know, like baby crying sounds.
	And then the Palestinians come out to try to find where's the baby.
	And then the Israelis detonate the drone.
	So it's actually, you know, it's a kamikaze bomb and then they kill some adult Palestinians, right?
	So that is actually, that's a precursor to what I'm talking about, where the machines will use decoys.
	They'll use maybe voice calls.
	But specifically, they're going to use, they're going to roll off the assembly lines like human-looking Terminator robots or robots that look enough like humans that you can't really tell from, you know, 25 meters away or something like that.
	And they're going to dress them up like soldiers and they're going to make sure they move like humans.
	They look like humans.
	It's just like, this is what Kyle Reese said in the first Terminator.
	Like they have bad breath and hair and sweat and everything.
	That's what the machines are going to try to build.
	And they can do this relatively easily because there's all kinds of like mannequins and dolls and templates to go off of to build human looking like a human face, let's say.
	And some of this has been demonstrated on various like robot videos.
	They've got human looking faces like creepy, normally creepy.
	I saw some of these videos from the recent AI robotics trade show in Beijing and saw some videos there.
	They're like, oh my God.
	And, you know, for some reason, a lot of these robot makers in China, they're trying to make like a human companion robot.
	And it's like some creepy female looking thing.
	It looks like it wants to kill you.
	But the creators think it's like a sexy woman template or something.
	It's not.
	It's creepy.
	And then like its face will move, you know, it has like a moving mouth and eyeballs that roll around and whatever.
	And it's like, oh my God, this is like the worst nightmare.
	But imagine if you dress up that machine in like battle fatigues and whatever, and you make it limp, you know, and you make it speak like a human, which is already very easy for AI to do.
	It could speak like any human.
	We have AI voice generation that's become very common now.
	And so you can see that.
	You're going to have infiltration Terminator units that are going to, you know, go into the human groups and then either detonate and kill off a bunch of people or just open up with a mini gun or whatever, whatever weapon system works.
	I mean, some of these robots from Unitry could probably slice up a whole crowd of people with a stake knife.
	You know, these Unitary dog bots are freaky how they can move and leap around.
	I mean, how do you fight a robot dog?
	Like, I know some Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
	I know some Krav Maga.
	I mean, you know, I know how to use a rifle and everything, but I've never trained to fight a finicky spasmodic robo-dog Terminator.
	I have no idea.
	What do I do?
	I think I just have to shoot it as fast as I can.
	How do you fight a robo-dog?
	Especially if it's coming after your ankles with knives or something, right?
	So this war is going to get freaky.
	You know, they're going to take like these Chinese female companion models, which I'm just going to call like Robohoes, and they're going to send the Robohose into some of the cities.
	Hey, honey, you want to go on a date?
	Watch out.
	It's a Robohoe.
	Shoot that hoe.
	You're going to have to figure out what's a robot, what's a human.
	I mean, the comedy practically writes itself, actually, in all of this.
	Yeah, this is going to be worse than any Philip K. Dick novel.
	Okay?
	It's going to be way worse.
	Don't be in the cities.
	Attack of the Robohose.
	Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.
	Attack of the psychotic robot.
	It's like Chucky the doll.
	Remember the horror movies with Chucky the doll?
	Like, stab him with a knife.
	Except Chucky.
	Now they make Chucky into what's supposed to look like a sexy woman, but it's not.
	It's a freaky Robohoe, Chucky doll now.
	It's like, oh my God, where's the flamethrower?
	It's like, melt this thing face off, please.
	All the mascara will be running down the fake face, you know.
	It'll melt into the circuits.
	The thing starts sparking.
	Roboho!
	Self-destruct sequence.
	Activate it.
	Oh, my God, run from the Roboho.
	You know, you run around the corner.
	Why are you running, Jake?
	Robohoe coming after me.
	Yeah.
	Future is not going to be RoboCop.
	It's going to be RoboHose.
	Okay.
	Well, there will also be RoboCops, of course, at the same time.
	So you're going to have cops and hoes, which is pretty much the way it is now.
	Except they're not Robos.
	All right.
	So be ready for all of this.
	You know, listen to my free audio books.
	Get prepared.
	Get off grid.
	Get out of the city.
	Have a means of self-defense and self-reliance.
	Decentralize your life as much as you can.
	And, you know, we've got a decent chance of surviving the Robohose or whatever else they send after us.
	Yeah.
	This might be survivable by some number of humans.
	But pretty much mostly just the high IQ ones, I would imagine.
	So, you know, the Dunkin' Donuts girl that tried to put out the fire with the broomstick, she's not going to make it.
	Roboho will get her in no time.
	But the woman with the fire extinguisher, she got a chance, you know.
	She might figure out, let's wrap up Roboho with cables and run it over with a pickup truck.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, choose your own adventure.
	That's what this is.
	All right.
	Before we transition to today's interviews, I've got one short interview for you and then a longer one.
	I have neglected to remind you for some time here that one of the best ways to get prepared for what's coming is to have backup communications, a satellite phone and Starlink.
	They both make really great sense.
	And our sponsor for this podcast is a satellite phone store, S-A-T123.com.
	They also represent Starlink with these really high-end, high-speed commercial Starlink systems.
	You can find those at starlink123.com.
	And when you need backup power supplies, which would be solar generators, the solar panels, the charge controllers, I mean, it's all together in one unit.
	You can find those at beready123.com.
	So just remember to have your backup gear in place, you know, before the craziness gets even worse.
	And remember to decentralize as much as you can.
	So having off-grid power makes a lot of sense for decentralization or having satellite phones that work that don't require cell towers.
	And remember that local cell towers depend on the local power grid.
	So when the power grid goes down, the cell towers run out of power after their generators run out of fuel, which is, I don't know, it could be three hours, it could be 20 hours, or maybe even a couple days if it's a large enough fuel tank.
	But those cell towers don't have unlimited off-grid energy, that's for sure.
	So a satellite phone solves that problem.
	And given that prices of so many things are going to go up, it's a really good idea to get what you think you're going to need now because this is the cheapest it's ever going to be.
	And you know, that's also true with our own food supplies.
	We were just informed, well, last Friday, we were informed that, for example, our freeze-dried fruits and vegetables, the wholesale price that we pay is going up, I think it was 20 to 25%, something like that.
	And there's nothing we can do about that.
	There's nothing we can do.
	I mean, we'll absorb some of that cost ourselves, but at some point we have to raise prices on our own products.
	What we do, though, just because it's the honest thing to do, is we keep the prices lower until we sell out the current inventory because that inventory was made with the lower cost materials.
	And then only when we make new lots with the new higher price material, then we raise the price in the shopping cart.
	So we are trying to keep our costs low.
	Shop with us at healthrangerstore.com and stock up on whatever you think you're going to need for the next year.
	Storable food, Cocoa Love, Coco Energize, you know, because the cocoa is going up 60%.
	The freeze-dried fruits and vegetables, the nutritional supplements, everything that you think you're going to need, it's cheaper now than it's going to be.
	That's for sure.
	And a lot of these items, like the freeze-dried foods, especially, they have a multi-multi-year shelf life with virtually no loss in color, texture, taste, or nutrition because freeze-drying is such an effective food preservation technique.
	It's really great.
	Okay, so what I'd like to do now is I'll play the first short interview.
	It's a 10-minute interview with Paymon, who is the expert in, well, I'll let him explain it to you, but it's but it's about freedom from government oppression and excessive taxation and other things like that.
	So we had an interesting chat at the Ron Paul barbecue event recently.
	I'll play that for you.
	And then following that is the featured interview today with Hakeem, who's the founder of abovephone.com.
	And that's the company that offers the de-googled phones, which I use.
	And also they have the above book, which is a, it's a Linux-based notebook with a special operating system.
	And we talk about that in the interview.
	And I just want to remind you that our free language model, the new version of Enoch, will be put onto these phones shortly within, I would guess, maybe two to three weeks max.
	And I'm going to let Hakeem know that so he can put them on the phone.
	And they will run on the phone.
	It's not as fast as the way they run on a GPU on a workstation, but it's still very, very useful, plenty fast for most uses.
	So this is going to be tons of fun, actually.
	I think you'll really enjoy that interview coming up.
	So check out today's interviews.
	Get prepared in every way that you can.
	The war with the machines is coming eventually.
	Hopefully we'll have a lot of preparedness time between now and then.
	But it is coming.
	So get yourself ready and enjoy the rest of the show.
	All right, we're just finishing up here at the Ron Paul 90th birthday celebration.
	And who do I run into but Paymon from freedomlawschool.org.
	Welcome, Paymon.
	It's great to see you.
	Thank you, Mike.
	It was great to meet you in person, finally.
	Isn't that funny that we've never met in person, but we've done so many interviews?
	I know.
	It's a small world.
	The people that love liberty, we come together.
	And this is a great event with Ron Paul that brought so many good people together.
	I was so glad to finally have a chance to meet with you in person.
	It was so awesome to see you here.
	And you got the Ron Paul Revolution shirt rocking it here.
	Now, just for people who don't, and maybe they haven't seen our interviews together, but you've helped a lot of people gain back their financial freedom by not giving in to tyranny, which was one of the messages that Ron Paul just said in his speech here.
	He said, we have to stop asking for permission.
	Yeah, and we got to assert our independence and sovereignty.
	The government works for us.
	They are our public servants.
	And that attitude is so critical because coming from Iran, Mike, I was so amazed to discover that in America, your rights in the law and the Constitution is recognized to come from God the day you were born, as opposed to Iran or rest of the world.
	So that's such a fundamental thing.
	And it relates so much to taxation because they have deceived us to believe we are weak, to believe they are strong when it's really the other way around if we simply educate ourselves.
	So what do you make of Trump reducing or his administration reducing by large numbers the number of IRS workers out there?
	What does that mean in practical terms for people who are trying to figure out how to keep more of the money that they earn legally and lawfully?
	Well, it's great news because you see, the IRS is a classic communist socialist organization.
	No one owns it.
	Everybody out there is just there for a paycheck.
	No one has any sense of responsibility.
	So corruption and waste assess pool just gets worse and worse.
	And they are literally falling apart from within.
	Just like the Soviet Union.
	I remember when the Soviet Union collapsed, no one believed that this empire of power would just dissolve of its own.
	But the same thing is happening with the IRS.
	And that's great news, especially those 80 plus million people who no longer file 10 for income tax forms because you just fall off the radar and they don't keep track of this guy filed last year, but this year then filed.
	They don't do that.
	So the more we recognize our power and that they are weak by educating ourselves, the sooner we can return America.
	And one of the principles that you teach at freedomlawschool.org is that filing taxes is actually a violation of your fourth and fifth amendments because it's a form of self-confession for a crime you did not commit.
	I mean, or is that the right way to put it or how would you put it?
	Well, that's a good point because you do that voluntarily because the income tax in law, the way it's written, is written for federal lands like Washington, D.C., that the federal government was given to do whatever they needed to do to protect us from England taking us back as slaves.
	So when you give your right to be selling away, when you subject yourself to prove all expensive deductions, it is you allow them to violate you because there's no law requiring the people of the 50 United States to sign that 1040 form,
	confess your income tax, and everybody who's an employee can go to our website for free, stop the income tax, withholding from the paycheck, so they don't have to file at all to follow up to get some money back.
	So your website, freedomlawschool.org, provides, what, resources, templates, education to help people assert their right to keep what they've earned?
	I mean, how would you put it?
	Yes, because education, as Ron Paul said, is number one.
	So that's why my goal is to have America be free again.
	So we provide that education so you can do it yourself.
	You don't need me or anybody else because you are self-educated and self-empowered.
	However, we provide the option for people, Mike, if they choose to want to come together like America's founding fathers, they can do that.
	And by doing so, mutually protect each other from the crooks and criminals.
	So you have two options.
	Do it by yourself with other people for extra safety.
	Trump has talked about abolishing the IRS, but it seems like a very far-fetched idea at the moment.
	I know he's raised some tariff revenue, but it's very tiny compared to the, what, three or four trillion that the income tax raises.
	Do you think there's any long-term potential of the IRS being abolished?
	Absolutely could be done because Trump has the authority tomorrow order the IRS under website to say, look, the people of the 50 states, we've been deceived and you don't have to pay income tax, payroll taxes, corporate taxes, estate taxes.
	And IRS is going to leave you alone because the law is going to be enforced as it is written right now.
	With that, the ball goes back to the Congress and the deep state to come with an alternative form of tax, which they can do more tariffs and they could allow immigrants to come to America.
	And immigrants, now they're going to pay you 50% income tax for the privilege of coming to work to America.
	It's like a legal work program with taxation and registration.
	Yes, all those illegal aliens that work at Home Depot and Lowe's outside, they don't pay income tax.
	They're the ones that are going to pay income tax.
	So now this way we have immigrants, the new generation, funding America for the people who are already there.
	And their children will get to be free.
	But this may get more immigrants all the time.
	And believe me, immigrants would be happy to pay a 50% income tax because compared to what they have back in the home country, they're still great.
	Why do immigrants even need to pay if the government's just going to print the money it needs anyway?
	I mean, ultimately, like Ron Paul teaches, don't we need to get back to an honest money system and stop the fiat currency printing, you know, in the big, the big picture?
	No question.
	The ultimate answer is to get rid of the Federal Reserve and the fractional reserve banking system, fraud system where they make money out of thin air and lower data at interest and they suck the wealth of all of us in indirect taxation.
	But the problem is the Federal Reserve and the bankers are so powerful with that money, they buy off the politician.
	That's a much more long-term goal we, of course, have naturally.
	And cryptocurrency gives us also another avenue to take some practical action now.
	But until then, we can get rid of the slavery system and then America become great because when Americans don't pay income tax, no FICA coming out of your paycheck, no corporate taxes, estate taxes, everybody from across the world is going to want to come to America.
	But guess what?
	Now that you welcome the land of the free, you foreigners, you pay because this is our home.
	You come to our home, you pay a price for doing so.
	So that's going to give us that initial, you know, be able to cut the third budget, let's say in half or a third, you know, because that's the start of a cut because they're over 90% waste anyways.
	Yeah, true.
	All right.
	Well, here's a man who was born in Iran and yet espouses the principles of the founding fathers of America better than most Americans.
	So thank you so much for joining me today, Payman.
	It's always a pleasure to speak with you.
	Pleasure is mine.
	Thank you for having me, Mike.
	All right.
	And again, the website is freedomlawschool.org, correct?
	Correct.
	All right.
	Well, thanks for being here at the 90th Ron Paul birthday celebration.
	It's been a fun one.
	Thank you, Mike, for having me.
	All right.
	Welcome to today's interview here at Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, and I'm joined in studio today by a returning guest, Hakeem Anwar.
	He's the CEO of Above Phone.
	This is a company we've partnered with for several years that offers de-googled phones, but they've got some amazing new things to announce today, including the integration of our AI engine with both their phones and their Above book, which is a privacy-focused notebook computer that doesn't run Windows.
	Thank God.
	You know, by the way, welcome, Hakeem.
	It's great to have you in the studio again.
	Good to be back, Mike.
	It's been too long.
	I always miss talking with you.
	Yeah, it's been a really crazy year.
	You would think that, you know, almost getting to World War and things would slow down a little, but no, it just kept going.
	Dude, I think it's only going to get crazier from here forward.
	And the thing I'm noticing, and let me adjust your microphone a little bit.
	The thing I'm noticing is that, you know, the White House just announced this new AI initiative, AI.gov, and it's like 80% focused on weaponized AI surveillance and weaponized AI military weapons.
	It's not AI for us, it's AI to spy on us.
	And like, God, this is like a Philip K. Dick novel.
	You talk about in your show a lot about how the new frontier of war is AI.
	And I think the other side of the picture is like, okay, half of the data center is used for training weapons.
	But then the other side is pointed at us.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	And that's why companies like Palantir have been in the news for the past year.
	That's something I've been watching really closely.
	And I think people are going to have to make a choice very soon.
	You can either choose to love convenience or you can choose to love freedom.
	Uh-huh.
	Not both.
	Not both.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So this is what I love about your company is that you focus on solutions that help people protect their privacy.
	And of course, I've been using your solutions for many, many years.
	And thank you for putting it together.
	But you're constantly improving.
	And so part of what I wanted to ask you here for today is to show us some of the cool things that you're working on.
	So can we start with the phone?
	Yeah, where do you want to start?
	Let's start with the phone.
	So just to give people some context, it's like the number one risk to people's privacy today is their phone.
	It's their devices, right?
	Yeah.
	And I know we've talked about VPNs in the past and other encryption tools like the apps used.
	Those are important.
	Those are important.
	But really, does encryption really matter if you get a device that is pre-hacked?
	I mean, that's what people are doing today, you know?
	They get to a store and Google and Apple can install apps on your phone without your knowledge, which they did for contact tracing.
	And they can remove stuff.
	They can force updates.
	Well, the entire Android operating system is controlled by Google, and it's a spyware operating system.
	I mean, the flavor of Android that's put on all the phones.
	Yes, it is.
	It's Google's version or Samsung's version.
	You know, they're all outfitted with a Google Wallet or digital ID or contact tracing.
	Yes.
	And it's just like, this is an interesting concept, Mike, that I think you'll appreciate.
	It's what I call like a network blast when a company makes a product that really no one wants to use, but because they can update 7 billion phones at once, it changes the fabric of society, you know?
	So that's what they do.
	And that's like that layer right there, that yucky Google layer, is what these devices lack.
	It's privacy and security by a mission.
	So that's a really important piece.
	Let me ask you this question.
	Since I've been using your degoogled phone for many years, and by the way, we're going to show on screen, we're going to demo your phone.
	And let me give out the website too.
	If you go to abovephone.com/slash Ranger, that's our affiliate link.
	And anything that you get there, you're going to be able to get a discount because of that slash Ranger discount code.
	I'm actually showing that on my screen right here: abovephone.com/slash Ranger.
	But there it is.
	Yeah.
	The one area of friction that I experience is, of course, whenever I want to install an app, I have to go out and find the APK file for the app because, of course, we don't have Google Play on purpose.
	Has anything changed in that landscape, or is it still basically still like that?
	You got to find the APK and install the APK.
	Yeah, there's a lot of good solutions now.
	And actually, I can show you one Aurora Store.
	So Aurora Store is a way to download the apps that you would normally use on your phone.
	So, Mike, you don't have to struggle with finding the apps you love.
	Even if you use big tech apps or things that you would use on a day-to-day basis, you can still get that.
	So, this is the Aurora Store.
	It was actually made originally by one person, this developer in India, who decided he didn't want people to struggle under Google's Play Store.
	And he also wanted to give people more information about the apps that they're downloading.
	Now, I really love this.
	I think I see so many parallels with software and when it comes to self-development, because these apps, the apps on these stores now will give you a nutrition fax.
	What do I mean by that?
	So, for instance, here's Indeed, if you're looking for a job, but the thing you don't realize is down here, there are third-party companies that exist within these apps.
	So, for instance, you can go and get a list.
	All right, Google is involved in a lot of applications.
	In fact, on average, on the Google Play Store, there's five separate analytics or advertising companies.
	Those are separate companies, and they get access to what you do in the app.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So, in other words, this Aurora store tells you kind of warning labels about which apps are infiltrated by which spies.
	Exactly.
	Basically, yeah, exactly.
	And so, it's like, it's exactly like going to the store and turning the food around and reading the label.
	Got it.
	So, it's like for some things, you wouldn't expect it.
	Like, for instance, like a PDF reader, PDF reader, that's just reading a file on your phone.
	You would think.
	What's the big deal?
	And so, we look at Adobe and you scroll down here, you see the pastor reviews and similar apps.
	And then you see nine different trackers.
	Wow.
	Facebook, Google, something called Branch, Open Telemetry.
	And the key part of this is that if you give this app permission to your files, so does everyone else on this list.
	They have that same permission.
	Oh my God.
	Yeah.
	So that's usually something it pops up and people just click OK.
	People just click OK.
	It's like, I need access to your files.
	Oh, that seems reasonable, but I didn't want to say that to Facebook or Google.
	So it's disingenuous and it's wrong for Google to hide this complexity from people.
	But, you know, these big tech companies like to play like they're the wizards and you're just a peon.
	So you don't get to understand this.
	But does the Aurora store do the installs of the apps?
	Like, let's say Signal.
	Signal is a popular communications app.
	If someone wanted to download and install Signal, can they do that through Aurora?
	They could.
	Yes, they could.
	So any of these apps you can install.
	It's not just looking at the info, but so let's install Signal.
	Let's find it.
	Which, by the way, we can talk about Signal a little bit.
	Yeah.
	I don't trust Signal.
	No, don't worry.
	I'm just saying it's a data-oriented app.
	Right.
	So it's easier for people to use sometimes because they can easy to use, totally.
	Yeah.
	So, okay.
	So, yes, you can install it, then you'll get the network permission, and then it'll install it.
	It'll even handle updates and everything.
	Okay.
	Well, all right, let me let me test you then on this.
	Okay.
	I'm a long-range target shooter, so I like ballistics apps.
	And that's kind of a niche market.
	But can you search Aurora for ballistics and see if there's any ballistics app that might just pop up?
	Sure, I can.
	I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but no problem, man.
	Just type in ballistics.
	It probably has the same app that you're using.
	Oh, you're kidding me.
	Apply ballistics?
	That's the best one.
	That's right there.
	That's the first one, eh?
	There's Hornerty and there's like SigSauer and there's Leica and a bunch of them.
	But Apply Ballistics is the king.
	Let's see.
	Hey, look, it's pretty good.
	It's got a pretty good tracker record.
	Like Mark Zuckerberg, he knows how good you shoot.
	So he's up there training.
	Oh, really?
	It's not so bad.
	That's actually a very, you know, that's a fairly good privacy score for this.
	Okay.
	So let's go ahead and install it.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, you're going to have to key out a bunch of muzzle velocity stuff.
	We don't want to mess with all that.
	I just wanted to see if it would pop up.
	Yeah.
	So that's the beauty of this de-Googled ecosystem, right?
	Even though it doesn't have Google, there are still ways to get the things you want.
	That's cool.
	You've got the freedom to, you know, it's really your call.
	So we try and provide you with as much information as possible through what trackers are on the apps.
	And then you get to make informed decisions about what's on your phone.
	All right.
	So a question from an end user, let's say.
	They're currently using an Android phone.
	They've got a SIM card.
	Can they just buy your phone, pop the card in, and everything just starts working with their AT ⁇ T account or whatever they're using?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So it works with any cell service in the world.
	You could be in Zimbabwe and using their cell service, or you could be in America with AT ⁇ T, and you would get this phone, and it has a place for you to put the SIM card in.
	Now, some people may have not done this before.
	It's a really easy process.
	It is.
	Like five minutes.
	A paperclip, slide out the little tray.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But if you go to the store, they'll be a little sketchy about it.
	So I wouldn't recommend that.
	They're like, what is this phone?
	And it's like, they haven't heard of a privacy phone before.
	That's true.
	They don't know.
	But anyone can do it at home.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And the physical hardware phone, it's Google Pixel hardware, but it's been mind-wiped and then re-initiated with the de-Googled operating system.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So it's using Google Pixel hardware.
	Now, at first, that seems like counterintuitive.
	Thought we were trying to escape Google.
	Well, we are.
	And also, Google's got some of the best security in the world for their phones.
	So it's a level of usability and support that you're going to get.
	That's why it works anywhere in the world.
	And what we're focusing on is the operating system level.
	So the operating system is, in my research, where most of the surveillance comes from.
	Clearly.
	Yeah.
	You know, that's what they count on your laziness and for this to run in the background.
	And the crazy part is anyone can see this with a little bit of at-home setup.
	And then we have independent studies from Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland, which they looked at how much data a Google phone and an iPhone are sending back.
	And what they found is it's all through the operating system.
	So you're taking care of that big layer there.
	So you have the Pixel 9 Pro XL available.
	That's right.
	The high end.
	It's the high end.
	It's the best phone you can get on the market today.
	And yeah, we were chatting about this before the show, but it's got 16 gigs of RAM.
	So, you know, it's setting you up to run AI models on your phone or even software on your phone.
	You know what?
	Let's actually demo that because you were just showing me before the show that you've taken our old AI model from last year, NEO, which we don't even really recommend anymore because it's obsolete.
	But you were able to install NEO on there and you're running last year's AI model on the phone.
	And you're going to install our new Enoch model as soon as we have the GGUF available, correct?
	That's right.
	We're so excited for the release of that.
	My team's been preparing and we're excited for it.
	So let me just show you what the experience will be like.
	Okay, we're going to show it on the screen.
	So you're actually going to run a query locally on your phone.
	That's right.
	Not in the cloud, not using a browser.
	Yeah, I'll prove it.
	Let me disconnect from the Wi-Fi.
	All right.
	No, it's okay.
	We trust you.
	Okay.
	So you don't need the internet to do this, like you said.
	All right.
	So here, I scraped my knee and I need what herbs might help heal the wound.
	Okay.
	Send that off.
	Okay.
	So now Neo's going to process that prompt.
	Look how fast it is.
	Wow.
	How many tokens per second is that getting?
	Looks like it looks.
	8 to 20 more.
	Yeah, it's quite fast.
	It's usable.
	Wow.
	And that's, see, yeah, that's the model that we trained last year.
	It's talking about Turmeric and Echinacea and everything.
	It has a specialty, it has a specialty of knowledge.
	And so NEO is really, really great.
	Once we get Enoch, it's going to be able to answer so much more.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Neo is awesome in certain areas, but you go outside those areas and it goes a little crazy.
	It puts on its tinfoil hat.
	Yeah, totally.
	But Enoch is so much better.
	We're very close on Enoch, but I can't promise the release date of the GGUF files.
	We haven't quite nailed down the alignment that we want.
	But I do want to tell the audience that when Enoch is available, it will ship on your phones for free.
	It's free to use.
	You never have to log in.
	You don't need an internet connection.
	And you will get about 50% alignment, which means every other answer will be great.
	I mean, that's the truth.
	And it's cool because you get to develop, it's not living, but you get to develop a relationship with it.
	You know, you start to understand, just like a human being, what it's good at and what it's not good at.
	And you can just stick to what it's good at.
	So even popular AI models have those problems.
	But one thing I appreciate, Mike, is the patience of knowing that, hey, this is going to change the world.
	So let's wait until it meets all of our benchmarks.
	So we are super excited to be one of the first to have it on our laptops and our phones.
	Well, let me show you this.
	Bringing up my screen.
	So we have Enoch running on our servers right now.
	If people go to Brightion.ai, they can use it for free.
	And this has been out about a month or so.
	We have, on our peak days now, we have 10,000 users a day using the engine.
	It's great.
	And it's just churning through.
	There's a cue.
	Like you enter your prompt right here, and there's ideas here, like if you need help with prompting.
	And then you can ask it anything you want.
	And this has achieved 94% alignment with our reality-based testing, which means it knows all about climate.
	It knows about the dangers of vaccines.
	It knows about anti-cancer herbs, all this stuff, right?
	Even history, the Federal Reserve, you name it.
	So this has strong alignment, but of course, it's over the internet.
	So in the long run, we encourage people to use these models locally in a decentralized fashion, which is what your hardware enables.
	Right.
	And, you know, it won't run as fast as the main model, but we're really looking forward to seeing its performance on some of these, all these other areas, which I don't think any AI project has done before.
	Right.
	Well, and I can tell you, what we want to deliver to you is a 7 billion parameter 4-bit quant model.
	And the 4-bit quant will make it much faster.
	However, it gives up some accuracy, which is why the cloud-based model will always give the most detailed and accurate answers.
	But sometimes you might be in the middle of the Amazon jungle.
	You don't have the cloud.
	You've got your device.
	You need an answer right now.
	Or you want to do it privately.
	Yeah.
	And so with this AI model, look, it's still going.
	Oh, is it?
	It was.
	It's writing a story about your knee.
	It's writing an entire story about the knee.
	That's funny.
	That's Neo.
	Yeah, sometimes it just runs on.
	It doesn't know when to stop.
	11 different herbs.
	You know, but I feel taken care of.
	And that's the important piece.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, and that's exciting too.
	So this is what's running on my phone is also a 7 billion parameter model.
	Now, I know it's going to vary a little bit with the final performance is, but if it runs like this, then I could see myself using that all the time.
	I think it's going to run better because Neo was built off of the base model of Meestrel.
	Okay.
	Whereas Enoch is built currently on the base model of Quinn.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And Quinn is the architecture is vastly better than Meestral.
	But we don't have to use Quinn long term.
	Whatever model is the best, we can plug in our training approach onto any model.
	So we're going to be continuing to release new models based on different base models, especially as NVIDIA ships new hardware that allows us to do that more computationally efficiently.
	Anyway, we're going to keep providing your company with whatever the best model is currently that fits.
	That's huge.
	That piece right there was key.
	So Mike is sitting on an important bank of knowledge for all these things we should be learning, but no human can be a master at everything like that.
	And when as AI technology continues to improve, we're going to retrain it on every single model.
	Yes.
	Eventually, eventually we'll have a whole library of really effective AI agents.
	And I've already told my engineers to create a seamless way where people can just hit one button and it will automatically download the newest model.
	See, that's going to be so cool.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, what we've actually built is an ever-expanding training data set.
	And that consists of both free form unstructured text as well as question-answer pairs.
	And that part is for a fine-tuning step.
	But our data set continues to expand dramatically.
	So we're building data, which is really the key to this, which means that any new model that comes along, we can alter it.
	And again, with the new NVIDIA hardware, whenever it ships, that will compress our alteration time from, you know, let's say four months down to four weeks or two weeks or eventually four days.
	You know, I mean, that's coming.
	That's huge right there.
	So with Enoch, the hosted version that you can use online, are you using people's questions to key in on, all right, these would be good question answers?
	Are you using it to kind of refine it?
	There's an option.
	When you submit a question, there's a checkbox where you can say you allow us to use your question to train future editions.
	So for those people that choose that, we are gathering their questions, but that's completely dissociated from their identity.
	You notice we don't have any logins.
	You don't log in to use our system.
	There's no password.
	There's no identity.
	There's no fee.
	There's nothing.
	You just provide an email where we send the answer.
	So yeah, we do intend to use those questions, but so far we haven't.
	We're just collecting the questions for the next training.
	Frankly, we already have plenty of questions ourselves right now.
	You know, Mike, I was skeptical about AI for a long time.
	And I still am.
	It's good to have a healthy skepticism, but being around a lot of investigative journalists, they're all pulling the pieces together as how it's going to be used against us.
	And I think the scary part is a playing field where the other side has guns and you don't even know how to use yours, using a knife or something, right?
	And so I started to come around to it and realize that a lot of really important things that need to be built, we can use AI to help us do it.
	Absolutely.
	And I'm not talking about the Anthropics or the open AIs of the world.
	I'm not talking about using them.
	I'm talking about getting our own models on our own hardware.
	Yes.
	We can't be influenced.
	And we're getting very, very close to that.
	See, that's what's so cool.
	Your notebook, the above book, is also going to be able to run the larger models even faster.
	So let me ask you about the notebook that you have here.
	Let's switch over to that.
	And first, tell me about the specs.
	How much now it runs a special flavor of Linux.
	Yes, that's right.
	So it runs a flavor of Linux called Arch Linux.
	You normally have to wear Fedora to wear this Linux.
	I'm just kidding.
	That's a joke.
	I'm trying to say this is normally a flavor Linux reserved for nerdy people.
	But our challenge was to, because there's so many awesome characteristics about this OS, we wanted to make it available to the masses, not just the nerds.
	And so we decided to make a product out of it and make it so you don't even have to use a terminal.
	All right, so we're going to share your screen.
	And I want, just give us a little demo of this Arch Linux because initially it looks kind of like Windows, but thank God it's not.
	I'm so tired of Windows automatic updates and reboots and restarts.
	And it's like, are you kidding me?
	Yeah, especially as a researcher or even imagine the middle of the interview.
	Yeah.
	That's happened to me a long time in the past.
	Exactly.
	Our philosophy for this is we wanted to learn the good parts about Windows and Apple and take the good parts and leave the crappy parts behind.
	So it's got things like gestures.
	It's got things like multiple desktops that you can switch back and forth from.
	I'm just using three fingers to do this.
	So some nice stuff right there.
	And then it's also got things so you can do your work.
	So this is an open source version of the Office Suite that you normally find, Microsoft, Word, or Microsoft Excel.
	Which one is this?
	This is called OnlyOffice.
	OnlyOffice.
	OnlyOffice.
	Oh, okay.
	And what I love about it is that it keeps the native Microsoft formats.
	Oh, okay.
	Because I've used like Libre and others, and they have their own proprietary file formats.
	Yes, they use ODL, I think.
	And it's funny, you know, among the team, we always have a competition.
	It's like, no, OnlyOffice is the best.
	No, LibreOffice is the best.
	And anyways, so I really like OnlyOffice because if you come from a Windows environment, like all the formulas are the same.
	So let's look at this guy.
	So you can load up an XLS spreadsheet in this Office suite.
	Boom, and it's already working.
	Or word processing or whatever.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	So we, so, you know, in our company, we are dogfooding it, which means we're using all of our products.
	Everyone at our company has an above phone.
	They have an above book.
	And so we're doing all of our work through these open source softwares.
	So even if you is onlyoffice.com?
	Is that the they have an online version as well?
	Yes.
	So you can use it online, the cloud-based version.
	Right.
	And then you can also download it on any platform.
	I see.
	And when you download it, it's open source and free.
	That's right.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So they have both options.
	So it works really, really well.
	I enjoy it.
	And it comes default on every above book.
	So that's one really cool feature.
	Now, the other cool feature I'll show you is the software store, which our goal was: all right, let's take this highly technical operating system and let's make it easy.
	If there's a software that you need, let's make it just point and click to install it.
	So for instance, let's use Zoom as an example.
	Because a lot of people, I'm sure, they're going to install Zoom.
	Even though it has a license to your likeness.
	Right.
	They're still going to use it.
	Okay, it's okay.
	So you can see here, you can just click the download button and then you can start installing it.
	And then it'll ask me for my password.
	And then boom, it'll install it.
	Okay.
	And again, just to be clear, I mean, there are no ties to Microsoft in this.
	You don't have to log in to Microsoft ever to use this.
	I imagine it must be faster too, because it's not bloated with all the Bill Gates crap that's all over Windows.
	Windows feels like Bill Gates' graffiti.
	Like he's been tagging everything.
	It's been tagging with every ads.
	Right.
	It's like, stop spray painting my laptop.
	Like, I don't want to know more about your picture of the day.
	Yeah, right, right.
	I don't want any of that crap.
	Right.
	So is it more streamlined?
	Most, most definitely.
	So one of the promises we have for every single one of our products is zero connections to big tech.
	They're the bad apples here.
	You cut them out.
	You're left with an experience that's so much faster and just, you know, it does what you want it to do and doesn't waste any resources on anything else.
	So even these laptops, they're not brand new laptops.
	They're renewed and they're running hardware that's just a year or two old.
	So even with that, they perform just as fast.
	It's normal laptops because they're running lightweight operating systems.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about, so I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I have specific questions to the way I use computers.
	But for example, if I'm running a local NAS unit, file storage unit, right?
	And does the in the past I've seen that Linux sometimes has difficulty like connecting to file shares, but all my NAS units are running Linux anyway.
	Yeah.
	But they talk to Windows, obviously, SMB protocols or whatever it is.
	Does this have any problem connecting to like local network storage units?
	It shouldn't have any problems at all.
	In fact, if we look here for NAS, there's a few different, let's see, file system server.
	So there's actually a way within our file explorer here.
	You can connect to your NAS and then there's software that you can download and we're happy to point you to the right one where you can connect to your NAS server too.
	I see.
	Then it'll end up looking just like a drive over here.
	That's what we want.
	Yes.
	So if it seems like they're working with Linux or running Linux, so you shouldn't have any problems.
	And I know that's a specific question.
	Some other people, they might use clouds, right?
	They might use Google Cloud or Proton Cloud.
	And the quick answer to that is, will it work on this?
	Yes, it will work because most of the time you can access that stuff through the browser.
	And then what level of support does your company offer customers if they have questions or difficulties?
	Yeah, so we know that support is so important to the mission.
	So with every device, whether you get a phone or a laptop, you get a free 45-minute support call.
	And that's with a real-life person.
	It's not with an AI.
	It's not an AI.
	It's not an AI.
	You can run the Neo model and just let it tell stories for 45 minutes.
	Don't tell them.
	No, my support engineers would get very upset if we ever went that direction.
	And we feel like AI is a supplemental tool.
	You need that human element, right?
	That's right.
	So you get that level of support.
	You also have 24-7 email and chat support.
	And that's for the lifetime of your device.
	Oh, wow.
	That's huge.
	Yes.
	24-7 chat support.
	We actually have hours from 9 to 5.
	That's when you're most likely to get a response.
	But we've been known to answer on nights and weekends.
	We're also working on tiers of support.
	And this is something that I'm pretty excited about.
	So there's will be an insider level where you'll get faster answers.
	You'll get more call times.
	I think that's the feedback we had is, you know, people want to use their devices for so much.
	They have so many questions.
	They need more call time.
	And so we'll have a regular subscription that you can get.
	Oh, that's a great idea.
	You get more call time.
	And there's even one that's a VIP where you can get up to six calls a month.
	Okay.
	And browser, does it run Brave or what are you running as the default browser?
	It runs a version of Chromium, which Brave is also a version of Chromium.
	Pretty much anyone who's making a browser, it's a version of Chromium.
	And then ours is ungoogled.
	Right.
	So you've stripped out all the Google.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	It's a piece of software that stripped out Google.
	Brave's browser to just public service announcement.
	There's telemetry included in that.
	So, you know, Brave will also profile you locally to your device, and that's how they do their ad system.
	So this is a browser that doesn't make any third-party telemetry connections.
	Okay.
	And so what it does as well is it's got different extensions that you can use.
	So you don't ever see ads, which is really, really cool.
	Oh, yeah.
	By default, or you can add that extension.
	By default.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	That's great.
	And does it have, you know, like stealth mode or privacy mode or all those kinds of things?
	So privacy mode is the default mode.
	And then if you want to get more private than that, not have anything saved on your machine, the incognito, we'll do that.
	I know you've talked about how incognito, you know, it only protects you from local people, but when your device and the software surfaces you are using are already protecting you, right?
	That's like the one, that's like the little extra you can do.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Next level of security.
	Like here on this laptop that I have here, because I travel with it, I have it, I have the whole boot drive encrypted.
	And so I use a piece of software for that.
	I have to type in a long password just to decrypt it and even boot.
	It pops up.
	Is that BitLocker?
	No, no.
	Hell no.
	I wouldn't, no, I would not use Microsoft.
	But my question is, is there something similar that you can do to totally encrypt?
	Yeah, so you're talking about full disk encryption.
	Right.
	And full disk encryption will protect you from an evil made attack.
	Imagine you're out of the house.
	Maid comes in.
	She tries to pull the data off your computer.
	What an evil maid this is.
	Evil made.
	Evil made.
	And so if your hard drive isn't encrypted, they could easily copy over the data.
	Most people's computers are just like that.
	That's right.
	For me, it's like if somebody were to steal this on my travels, I want to make sure they can't boot it.
	Right.
	And so if they could copy your hard drive, they would be able to.
	So now these computers are, you have the option to full disk encrypt them.
	It's selected by default.
	So you would actually have to say, no, I don't want encryption, which we don't recommend it.
	It's pretty easy to break into a computer if you don't have full disk.
	It's pretty easy.
	Wait, are you saying these ship with full disk encryption?
	They ship with full disk encryption.
	I mean, they are encrypted when they ship.
	They're encrypted when you ship.
	And then you give the customer the decryption password?
	We built a software that will let customers update their password on the machine, and then it'll go ahead and re-encrypt it again.
	Okay, with the new password.
	Okay, that's right.
	So, wow.
	But then.
	Okay, so when they get the notebook, the first thing they do when they turn it on is they have to type in the decryption password.
	It's a very secret but easy default password.
	Yes.
	Okay, got it.
	Yes.
	And then from that point on, they're encouraged to change that password, obviously.
	It's the first thing that comes up, right?
	You'll get the option to update your login password and your encryption password.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Well, we must be thinking the same because I wasn't even aware that they shipped like that.
	Yes, they ship.
	Full encryption in place.
	Most definitely.
	I mean, it's, we, you know, at our company, we try and focus on every single layer of the stack.
	And also, it kind of blew my mind a few years back when I decided, hey, I'm going to try and break into an unencrypted laptop.
	And it took me like three minutes.
	Yeah.
	And then I was like, okay, we're not.
	We're not ever going to.
	You just pop out the hard drive and plug it into another system and just read it.
	Yes.
	I know how to do that.
	Yeah, it's really that easy.
	So, you know, if you have an unencrypted hard drive at home, just keep a watchful eye on it.
	It's just that physical, you know, possession.
	That's all it takes.
	Right.
	So with this, here's the Brightian edition.
	And this edition of the operating system, it's going to have the AI programs already installed.
	And it's also going to have some nice Brighteon theming.
	But you have the option to pick.
	Hit the wrong button there.
	So we have this latest edition, the Aluminum 6, and you can actually pick the storage options.
	So you have options from one terabyte to four terabytes, which is pretty cool.
	And then there's also an option for 32 gigs of RAM.
	Now, we run.
	16 is default.
	16 is default.
	Okay.
	But if you want to get ready to run a bunch of AI models, 32 is pretty sweet.
	And what we love about this one is that it'll do the 360 degree thing.
	It also comes with a stylus.
	Is that stylus app?
	Here it is.
	Here it is.
	So it comes with a stylus.
	So you can actually draw things on screen.
	It's great for e-signs, all that kind of stuff.
	Huh.
	So, yeah, I can control it.
	I can control it with the stylus here.
	So it's pretty, pretty cool.
	But it's also a touch screen.
	It's also a touchscreen.
	So, yes, you can grab it.
	You can move windows around.
	You can snap them to places.
	Yep.
	So there's a lot of different things you can do with a laptop.
	And what we hope people do is people start their side projects.
	Because it's like with these big tech companies, there's a few big tech companies and they're worth billions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars.
	It's going to take millions of tiny companies to counteract that effect.
	Uh-huh.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So.
	So talk to us about file sharing between the phone and the laptop because I know people that have iPhones and everybody who's on Apple is using the iCloud or whatever it's called.
	Every time they take photos, it's uploaded to Apple.
	And I'm like, are you crazy?
	Why would you share everything with Apple?
	Do you trust Apple?
	You know, even if they were aware enough to make the choice, sometimes Apple will flip the switch back on.
	Is that right?
	So your photos get scanned by AI and they go to iCloud.
	All the big tech companies have done that recently.
	Now I know we're running short on time.
	So our customers were asking us this question.
	They were like, Hakeem, why can't I text people videos?
	And I was like, because that's not actually a feature of text messaging.
	That's why it's what Apple created on top.
	So they needed a way to send files and videos to each other.
	So we built this this year.
	It's called Above Share.
	And it lets you just drop any files in.
	Let's get a picture from here somewhere.
	Here's a picture of me saying hi.
	There we go.
	And then you can upload it.
	You can go to your share, publish it.
	And then now you have a link you can share with anyone.
	Now, here's the cool part is with your share, you can actually choose how long it stays active.
	So I could say, I only want one person to see this.
	And then it will delete itself.
	Yeah.
	Wow, very cool.
	And this doesn't use some cloud storage system.
	It uses an above share server.
	The reason this is different, it's ephemeral.
	So it's like things aren't supposed to live on here forever.
	They're only supposed to live on here momentarily.
	I see.
	Maximum of seven days.
	So it's like the next time you're doing a major transaction or you're doing travel, they'll ask for your passport.
	And they really expect you to put your passport as an email attachment.
	That's what most people do.
	Really?
	Yeah, and it's crazy because that is open to the internet for anyone with a mail server tool.
	Of course.
	Right.
	And so now it's like learning the shift.
	Instead of doing that, let me use a file transfer service like this.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So this is built in automatic with above book and the above phone.
	It is a part of our suite of software services.
	So we have the phone and we have the book.
	And then we also have our suite, which I'll put up here.
	It's abovephone.com slash suite.
	So we run this on our private data center based in the US.
	And it's all these different services that you can use.
	So we've got things like our encrypted chat, an internet phone number.
	We've got things like our VPN and DNS.
	We've got our email and calendar.
	And then we've also got our file sharing and our video conferencing.
	And also, this is you get all this stuff for $100 a year.
	It's all based on open source software.
	And we minimize logging.
	There's only a few things that we log, which is our email server for 48 hours.
	And then there's nothing else.
	Wow.
	But most of our services, we don't do any logging at all.
	What about the VPN?
	Yes.
	So the VPN has no logging at all.
	And I listened to that interview earlier, which that sounds like a really cool company, a really cool guy talking about it.
	But they talk about it's hard to trust a VPN company.
	It is until you run your own VPN and then you realize, yeah, really just as easy as just not logging.
	Yeah, right.
	But again, you know, your company, we've been working with you for many years.
	It's easy for me to trust your company because I've known you this entire time.
	I've seen you at the freedom conferences, et cetera.
	But these unknown VPN companies that are owned by, you know, certain nations, certain groups of people that are not doing good things for the world.
	They're scanning everybody's traffic, I think.
	They are.
	Yeah.
	And if you look at, I mean, there's even other projects too.
	And you look at the founders and they used to be working as part of an intelligence company.
	Right.
	What does that tell you, you know?
	Right.
	They're an intelligence unit that started a VPN company to gather intelligence on their own customers, to blackmail them.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, it's unfortunate because they have millions and millions of dollars.
	So they buy everyone on YouTube, left and right.
	They do.
	And we're a homegrown company without venture funding or really without external funding.
	Right.
	And so it's been the challenge is how to get our message out there.
	And we try and lead with our products.
	So, for instance, above share, we didn't increase our prices when we released this.
	We just realized, hey, this is a gap and people need to have it.
	Yeah.
	And so the beautiful part is it's all open source.
	There's also this aspect of not being attached to us.
	What we want to do is create a model for other companies so that everyone at home can take this software and run it locally.
	Right.
	You're actually giving people their freedom back and then they can choose to use it however they wish.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Can I show you one more thing on the phone?
	Of course.
	Yeah, please.
	Let's switch over.
	Let's switch over here with the above hub that you get, which will allow you to make phone calls without any electromagnetic radiation if you're cool to that sort of thing, if you're hip to that sort of thing.
	So one of the really cool features about the phone is our internet phone number and then also our voice recognition, which this is offline voice recognition.
	Oh.
	It works directly off the phone.
	Wow.
	So it's not recording your voice.
	It does a really good job.
	So he even caught you saying wow in there.
	It sure did.
	That's amazing.
	And that's local.
	That's local.
	And it also does 14 languages.
	So really?
	I was just in Japan the other month.
	Okay.
	And no one speaks English.
	So I was relying on this a lot.
	Oh.
	Would you learn any Japanese phrases?
	I did.
	So I'm saying.
	Let's do it.
	You speak Japanese.
	I'll speak Chinese.
	Let's try it out.
	All right.
	Well, it's going to be kind of embarrassing, but yeah, let's try it.
	Let's do a notes app.
	Let me get you speaking Chinese, okay?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Bring it up Chinese.
	Okay.
	Just install the language here.
	See, I'm always putting you on the spot.
	Real-time testing.
	I can handle it.
	Just do like Mandarin Chinese.
	Boom.
	Installed my model.
	And then we'll go here.
	Okay, let's do it.
	All right.
	You ready?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Oh, it does it.
	It automatically recognizes it.
	All right.
	So three, two, one, go.
	It wrote it out.
	Well, okay.
	The problem is I don't read Chinese.
	I only speak it.
	So now you have to translate that.
	Our Chinese friends.
	That come out right.
	No, that would be really cool.
	We're also.
	Okay.
	I mean, it picked up some Chinese.
	I picked up.
	But yeah, when I lived in Taiwan, so I learned to speak it.
	But reading, because it's not, there's no alphabet.
	Reading's a lot.
	Reading's different.
	I think learning to read Japanese is easier than learning to read Chinese.
	Well, it also has Chinese characters in it, too.
	The kangi.
	Exactly.
	So like even some of my relatives who are who are Japanese, they're like, we can't read the entire alphabet because, yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, like one time I was lost in Taipei and there's all the road signs there with the road names written in Chinese and I have to like ask a person on the sidewalk like what road is this?
	They're like dumbass is right there on the sign.
	I'm like, I know that.
	I can't read that.
	It's like being illiterate.
	Yeah.
	It's like being yeah.
	So but but we're working on a translation feature and I would love to glue it to so you can speak into it and then it'll translate it.
	It's coming soon.
	We think by early next year.
	Well, that's cool.
	So yeah, we'll just rely on our Chinese reading audience to tell us if that's correct.
	I was asking if you want to buy some new clothes.
	Oh.
	But no, your clothes look great.
	Thank you.
	It's not a comment on your clothes.
	Health Ranger, now featuring clothes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The worst clothing line ever, like dirty ranch pants, basically is what that would be.
	Because that's because I just came from my ranch.
	Dirty ranch pants.
	Dirty ranch pants.
	The knees are all dirt, covered with dirt.
	Because my dogs and my chickens and everything, you know.
	Someone went by it.
	It's the big world out there.
	Pre-worn dirty ranch pants.
	Yeah, I'm sure that would be a hit.
	Okay, what other features do we need to know about?
	So check this out.
	So this is an encrypted messenger.
	It's called XMPP.
	It's two decades old.
	And WhatsApp and Skype, Zoom, they all built their chat services off of XMPP.
	So they use this open source software, but they didn't tell anyone about it.
	So this is proven software that anyone can run at home.
	It's run everywhere in the world and it can scale to millions of users.
	So I try and champion this every time I can.
	And we run our own private instance of this XMPP software.
	So it's a messaging tool, right?
	You can send messages, you can make calls, and you can also make encrypted video calls, which is really, really cool.
	And what the coolest part about it is you can also get a phone number and it will bridge your communications over the phone network.
	No kidding.
	Yeah.
	And this is installed by default.
	This is installed by default and all you have to do is log into your AboveSuite account.
	Okay.
	And what's the name of this again?
	What do you call it?
	This is called XMPP.
	XMPP.
	And this app, which has a phone number support, is called Cheogram.
	Huh?
	Cheogram.
	Cheo.
	Cheogram.
	Yeah, it's a purple C right here on the bottom.
	So, right, you see this thing that looks like a phone number in an email, and that's telling Cheogram, hey, bridge this out to the phone network.
	Now, you might be asking, okay, well, that's cool, but I thought it was an encrypted messenger.
	So does this encrypt my phone calls and text messages?
	No, it can't.
	It can't do that because there's legal obligations by telecom providers.
	When it goes over the telecom network.
	That's right.
	But if it's just data to data, it's encrypted.
	That's right.
	Yes.
	So if both people are on XMPP, it's fully antenna encrypted.
	I see.
	And this also adds some privacy on the phone layer because now you're not connecting to your nearest radio tower, right?
	They're not going to be like, okay, Mike's in Tennessee and he's sending out a text message to this person.
	He's right next to this radio tower, which only, you know, they have a range of about a few thousand meters.
	So it's pretty close.
	Now they don't have that information.
	Now they just have the one originating point for this internet phone.
	And you can still make phone calls and you can still send text messages.
	And the person on the other side, it just looks like a normal phone number to them.
	But it's using the data of the local cell towers.
	It is.
	So, no, it's using the internet.
	It's using the internet.
	And then at a certain point, when it hits the telephony server, it's going out.
	It's like in Canada.
	But I mean, if you're away from your own Wi-Fi, if you're out on the road and you're just, your only data is like cell tower data.
	Yes.
	And in that case, it's still disassociated from you.
	Okay.
	It's not like you don't see the call record next to the cell tower.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	I tried to look at the, you know, what they actually use in the court of law to when they try and prove this stuff.
	And it's really, they look at the radio tower, they look at your phone number.
	So this way, you wouldn't have the nearest cell tower.
	I see.
	The call data is disassociated from your internet usage.
	And of course, you're using a VPN.
	So that adds another layer of encryption as a cellular service provider what you're doing.
	Wow.
	So there's a lot to learn in this space for end users who just want it to be easy, like you said up front.
	Easy is just give in to Google and Apple.
	Use their solutions.
	They're going to spy on you all day long.
	Yeah, and I don't want to do myself the disservice of saying that this is that much harder.
	It's just a little bit of learning, just a different mental model.
	And that's why education is such a big part of what we do.
	We have, when you get the phone, we have a whole university that you get access to as a course with the phone.
	So you get videos, you get self-service guides, and then of course you can always call on us.
	But I make it probably hard sound harder than it is.
	It really is just as easy as opening up the app and finding your contact.
	So a little bit of investment of just learning this system pays off big time.
	Most definitely, yeah.
	You can see that I have like all of my work stuff here.
	This is using our email and our calendar service.
	Got my scroll up to the top here.
	I've got my Brightian emails coming in, which is great.
	I've got my calendar, which was sending me notifications and everything.
	And so yeah, you can get all of your needs taken care of when it comes to like work or home.
	And then the things that you count on, like the Wi-Fi, the Bluetooth, the GPS, all of that stuff works like normal.
	There's even ways you can navigate completely offline.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Very cool.
	I want to ask you outside of your product line, but let me just give out the website one more time.
	It's abovephone.com/slash Ranger or actually slash Brighton will get you there too, right?
	Either way.
	Both of them.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And there you can see the options that are available to purchase the de Googled phones or the D Microsoft laptops.
	Both of those are available and shipping now, correct?
	Shipping now, yes.
	Well, so if the model is done soon, we'll wait a little bit.
	You're talking about our AI model?
	Yeah, we're going to wait on that.
	So we'll probably start shipping them out next week.
	Okay, but I don't think we're going to have our GGUF available in one week.
	Okay.
	So then it'll be okay because you'll be able to download the model whenever it's ready.
	Yeah, we'll make it available.
	Yes.
	So we'll start shipping them out next week.
	And then we also have limited numbers of these phones.
	For instance, this 9 Pro XL, which is a really, really cheap price for the amount of hardware this phone has.
	It's got 16, if you can click on the phone.
	Phones.
	And so this is the 9 Pro XL.
	Wow.
	This is the one we love.
	It's the biggest.
	It's the baddest.
	It's got the most RAM.
	You saw how fast it was running those AI models.
	Yeah.
	So this is the one you should aim for.
	I'm shocked that AI can run that fast on a phone.
	Me too.
	It's crazy how fast technology moves.
	Yeah, because normally you need a dedicated GPU to get that kind of speed.
	I mean, it's getting close to what you'll do on a laptop.
	That's cool.
	So it's really, really cool.
	Because we were talking about this two years ago.
	We were wondering about this.
	Like, would it run on a phone?
	But your team has figured it out.
	Yes.
	And there's, you know, we have a lot of open source software engineers to thank as well.
	And it's really, really exciting to see it now in place.
	You know, what's interesting is like, so the phone could just run like a 7 billion parameter Quen model off the shelf Quenn.
	It can.
	Straight up.
	I was thinking about, I loaded Gemma on it, but you don't want to see Gemma.
	Jumma is like very slow.
	Yeah, I don't.
	No.
	I don't want to see it anyway.
	We found that Quinn is the least biased base model.
	That's what DeepSeek is based off of, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, Quinn is an Alibaba product.
	But then different versions of Quinn have different levels of bias, is what we figured out.
	And the latest version of Quinn is very much more pro-pharma.
	Pro-pharma?
	Yes.
	So they were not pro-pharma in the previous version, which is what we are actually using.
	And then they came out with a new version, and I guess somebody shoved a bunch of pharma propaganda into it.
	And this is why ultimately we have to build our own base model.
	Yeah, it's unfortunate, right?
	Because sometimes you look across the pond, and some of the things that these countries are doing seem like, oh, based on the surface, but really the money will find its way to the bus.
	The money influences it big time.
	Yeah.
	Ultimately, what we're going to have, and this might be 18 months away, I don't know.
	We will have our own base model trained on the data set that we are continuing to grow.
	And it won't be tied to any, anybody.
	It won't be tied to Alibaba, Google, Microsoft, Meestral, anybody.
	It'll just be our own base model.
	And it will be radically different from anything that's out there in a good way.
	We're so excited about this.
	And, you know, I can envision a future where you get a box and it's already set up with your hard-hitting GPU in there.
	We can have, you know, we can have the model on there.
	Yeah.
	This is a, we have the technology to do this.
	Yeah.
	And it's happening quickly.
	Hey, before we wrap this up, I want to ask you about the misuse of technology.
	A lot of people are concerned about Palantir, this project that, I mean, a couple of things.
	It's spying on the American people.
	And the excuse is, well, we have to find the illegals to get them out.
	And then a lot of this tech was, it was demonstrated by the IDF in its choosing of targets to bomb in Gaza, which ultimately, I don't know why they needed to choose since they bombed everything.
	I mean, they just bombed the whole freaking place to smithereens, but they were testing Palantir-like technology, gathering up metadata, phone calls and everything to decide who was a quote terrorist that they had to bomb.
	So Palestine became the testing ground for the surveillance AI dystopian technology that's now being applied in America.
	That's how it happens.
	Yeah, there's this technologies that are developed for war.
	It's nice when it's far away from you, but now it's coming home and it's coming home really, really fast.
	Palantir, founded by Alex Karp and Peter Theo of PayPal Mafia, so many ties to the CIA.
	And it's a story that everyone should be paying attention to because it's this new paradigm for surveillance.
	We used to have different secret databases of people.
	You're like, okay, I'm on Rex 84.
	That's with the FBI or whatever.
	Or I'm on this separate list.
	Palantir is taking all those lists and gluing them together.
	So they have contracts with every federal agency and their contracts have now exceeded over a billion dollars with their latest contract with the U.S. Army for $795 million.
	So they've already, within a few years, about a decade, they've already blown out every other technology provider.
	And what we know about Palantir is ironically through a Freedom of Information Act that BuzzFeed submitted, BuzzFeed of all people.
	Interesting.
	And so Palantir has these products that can pull data streams in on a regular basis, and they will make digital representations of things in the real world.
	So when they were making Gotham for the U.S. Army, they were like, okay, here's our fighter jets.
	Here's our artillery units.
	Okay.
	And then here's this truck in the distance.
	And they would pull as much information as they could about this unknown target and give you a likelihood.
	Hey, this is 50% chance that this person's a terrorist.
	Now, the way the LAPD is using it at home is they have contracts with other police departments and schools.
	They have the traffic light system set up to feed to it.
	And now half the officers in the force are using it.
	And they can do things like, I'm looking for a suspect, white male, six feet tall, skull tattoo.
	And it will pull up a list of everyone who's ever passed through the DMV or through the prison system.
	And if you click on them, you can see who they know.
	You can see their family.
	So it'll drill down into their family, what cars they own, even when that car was last spotted in the city.
	Really?
	Yes.
	It means it was tied into like traffic light cameras.
	Yes.
	So this system is active.
	It's been active for years in LA.
	But now with the so-called Big Beautiful bill, Trump's Big, Beautiful Bill provided this massive funding increase for ICE.
	But most of that funding is to build things like surveillance towers and like biometrics checkpoints on the highways, even far from the border.
	But it's all under the excuse that we have to deport the illegals.
	Now, I mean, just to be clear, I think we should require people to enter the country only legally.
	I mean, and if you came in illegally, you didn't need to go and you need to reapply to come back in legally.
	I'm all for that.
	But what I see is that this technology is going to be weaponized against us very quickly.
	Yes.
	You know, I mean, even if Trump doesn't do it, the next guy is going to do it.
	And it's already happening.
	And it's like if you protest against Palestine and you're not a U.S. citizen, even if you are a U.S. citizen, that's kind of becoming weird now.
	Well, didn't Trump say he wanted to take away the citizenship of who was it?
	Was it Roseanne?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I think it was Ellen DeGeneres or Roseanne.
	Maybe it was Ellen.
	Yeah, but I'm like, what do you mean take away U.S. citizenship?
	You can't just take away a person's citizenship, even if you don't like them.
	And so there's this immigration problem, right?
	It's almost like Trump and Biden are playing on the same basketball team where Biden's ineptitude and failure at the border, where this should have never been a problem in the first place, is now being used by Trump's administration to create a Gestapo, right?
	Yeah.
	It's just, it's, so it's, it's really sad to see that.
	And surveillance tools like Palantir, like what blew my mind is I'm calling this unified surveillance.
	Right.
	Because now in the back end, you know, Palantir could make a deal with anyone for their data.
	They could make a deal with your grocery store.
	You know, they could make a deal with your insurance company.
	True.
	And attach this data to their system.
	Your healthcare provider hoover up all your healthcare information, weaponize it against you.
	Exactly.
	And so now everything is a target for this unified system.
	And now another like, you know, key move was literally the CTO of Palantir becoming a lieutenant colonel in the army.
	You heard about that.
	Yeah.
	I was like, what do you mean?
	How can suddenly you're a lieutenant colonel in the army?
	Because you're a tech geek.
	You're a tech geek.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Yeah, it's like, you know, they a lieutenant colonel manages over a thousand soldiers.
	You know, they lead them into the battle.
	That's crazy.
	So it's like, why did Meta, why did OpenAI, why did Palantir, why did they, why they're the CTOs, why are they now a part of the army?
	What is happening here?
	And my speculation is that, like, think about how much data Meta owns of WhatsApp, what's happening in other countries.
	Now that can be integrated into this signals intelligence system.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So if you thought that the state went insane after the J6 event and running around the country rounding up all the peaceful J6 protesters, most of whom did not trespass, did not smash anything, did not steal anything, whatever.
	If you thought that was crazy, wait until this whole system goes live.
	This is going to be a whole different level of insane spying.
	I mean, we don't really know right now what police departments are using it.
	We know that every agency has contracts.
	So it just, it's coming back to, you know, here's the bright side about it.
	All these laws that are being passed right now, now privacy is not a choice.
	Now it's a survival measure.
	And that's like the saving grace to all of this is now we don't really have a choice but to relive our principles.
	And so cutting out Google and Apple are some of the best things you can do in your life.
	Being more mindful about the tech you use, reading the trackers, reading what other companies are involved.
	It's these skills you need to develop right now before we turn into a situation where you have to present your biometric ID to access the internet or to buy SIM cards like it already is in Mexico.
	And didn't Australia just pass an age law where they're going to have to collect IDs from everybody by the end of this year?
	Yes.
	Just to use a search engine.
	To use a search engine.
	Now here's the cool part.
	It's only if you have a Google account.
	It's only if you have an account.
	It's not for the entire internet at large.
	Really?
	Yeah, I read the code and it's only for people who have accounts.
	So it's kind of interesting.
	The laws are forcing people to become anonymous if they care about that kind of stuff.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So if you have a YouTube account and you're in Australia, you're going to get that age verification.
	Which means you're going to have to upload your ID to some government database that's going to get hacked.
	It's going to get hacked, just like, what was that company?
	T?
	Yeah.
	And all these women uploaded all their IDs while they were complaining about men, I think, is the way that service?
	There was a safe space, pretty much.
	Someone got teabagged there.
	Big time.
	So that's all going to get hacked.
	Heck, the entire U.S. military database was hacked a few years ago.
	They stole all the records.
	It was like four years ago or something.
	Yeah.
	And it was also federal officials.
	I mean, everybody, the FBI agents, you name it.
	It was all stolen, I think, by China or something.
	And then China is still on our cellular, they're still on our telephone network.
	And it's like, CISA said, we don't know how long this has been going on.
	And we don't know their level of intrusion.
	And it's still like that.
	So everything is susceptible, right?
	Even the people at the highest levels, they're all so prone.
	So the question is, why should we trust some of this data?
	Well, right.
	And it's insane.
	You hear like White House people saying, oh, China's stealing your data.
	No, you're stealing our data.
	The U.S. government's stealing our data every day.
	And I'm more worried about them than China.
	Yeah, personally.
	China's not going to de-bank me because I don't bank with China.
	I mean, JP Morgan is going to answer to the U.S. government.
	Worst case, I won't be able to buy a monosodium glutamate.
	Just kidding.
	Okay.
	That's more of a Japanese thing, by the way.
	Is it?
	Ajinamoto is the company that came up with MSG.
	Well, I guess I'm ignorant about that.
	And now I'm suspicious about some of the food I ate.
	Yeah, you probably got a dose of MSG if you're eating in Japan.
	Yeah.
	So it's, and then it's cool.
	It's like the bright side is when all these things happen to our food, when they're injecting our lettuce with mRNA, what do you do?
	You just have to make sure you're growing it yourself or you're going through trusted providers.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	What a world.
	Hakeem.
	It's, you know, it's more complex to navigate, but I'm so thankful that you have spearheaded this effort with your company to provide some tools that can help people protect their freedom.
	Well, thank you.
	Yeah, it's I always love coming on and getting into the weeds and like really trying to understand what's going on.
	Yeah.
	Because it's ignorance that is the key to whether you'll make it or you'll be a slave.
	Isn't that true?
	Well, you're always welcome here.
	And, you know, we're building a new studio.
	You may have noticed some of it.
	I don't know when your schedule will allow you to return, but it might be in the other studio.
	Nevertheless, you're welcome here anytime.
	Well, thank you.
	Yeah.
	Pleasure to be here.
	Really enjoy working with you.
	And let's talk about getting your phone set up.
	Everyone at home, this is the time to check out AbovePhone.
	So it's got these phones.
	We've got these tablets.
	We have thousands of people using them.
	It doesn't matter how old you are, how young you are.
	We have 80-year-old grandmas sending Monero transactions.
	Cool.
	More recently, we had a homeschooler get this as their first phone.
	So people from all walks of life, we're all stepping into this together.
	So we're there for you.
	We're going to help you.
	You've got your free support call.
	And yes, we're at your service.
	Ask us.
	We've got a little chat button on the website and I hope to engage with you more soon.
	Hey, when the hunter-seeker extermination drones target humans that are on Google and Apple, the above phone users will not be on their target list.
	It's an extra benefit.
	The Terminators won't know where to find you.
	Terminators won't know where to find you.
	You know, the kamikaze hunter-killer drones?
	That's what's coming.
	Just remember to say thank you when the AI answers your questions.
	They remember.
	Treat AI with dignity is what you're saying.
	I've seen videos of Chinese companies that have built robots and they kick them around to see if they can stay on their feet.
	And I think that's a bad, that's a dangerous precedent.
	It's a bad idea.
	Don't kick the robots.
	You've seen that video with like, they've got the demo bot and they're like taking away its like dog and then it goes on a rampage.
	It just starts.
	They took away its dog.
	Yeah, they started beating its robot dog and that like put it over the it's a fake video, but oh like no, I haven't seen that one.
	Oh, it's a good one.
	I saw a video of a robot that just went insane because of some bad code.
	They've had it tethered to something.
	I've seen that one too.
	Yeah.
	And now they have the fighting championships.
	Yeah, I've seen that.
	Kind of cool.
	If I ever get a humanoid robot, I want to make sure I can beat it in a fight.
	Like, so I want a little four-foot robot that I can kick its ass.
	Just like a midget.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't need a big Terminator robot to fold laundry or whatever, you know, or pull weeds in the yard.
	A little tiny robot is fine.
	It'd be kind of funny if you had just a giant one and it's like, you're just sitting there and you turn and it's like standing right there.
	Can I help you with anything?
	It's like, no, no, go away.
	Yeah, you don't want an ominous robot running around.
	But I wouldn't mind a ranch-handy dog robot that can do things like pull weeds or can like treat fire ant hills With the orange oil that I pour on them.
	Missed it.
	Yeah, or they can collect eggs from my chicken house, you know?
	Like little tasks would seem very helpful, actually.
	In the utilitarian viewpoint, like, yes, maybe there is a world where we can coexist and they can actually help us.
	Yeah.
	Maybe there's a version of the world where we could sit around all day and write poetry.
	I don't need to do that, but whatever, you know, whatever.
	They could handle some of the monotonous work.
	Because, you know, living off-grid, there's a lot of monotony in just keeping the ranch going.
	You know?
	So I'm open.
	I'm open to a little robot that can pull weeds, basically.
	Weed bot.
	Weed bot.
	I'm sure somebody else would have a different view of what that is.
	That's multi-purpose.
	Yeah, it's a robot that smokes weed.
	Worst robot ever.
	Which is basically like half the Joe Rogan audience.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Okay.
	Sorry, Joe.
	I'm just, I'm just joking.
	Before we get into deeper trouble, anything else you want to say before we wrap this up?
	Yeah, so I'm just feeling really inspired to bring out more solutions.
	I'm feeling inspired by guys like you, Mike, who just have such a mastery in many domains.
	And so I started my own show recently.
	It's called The Take Back Our Tech Show.
	You can check it out on Substack.
	So that's tbot.substack.com.
	Oh, that's what that stands for.
	I was wondering.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's a weekly show.
	So I try and cover all the tech news happening once a week.
	Cool.
	And I try to get it within 20 minutes.
	Well, I usually fail at that.
	That's hard.
	But I try to get it within 20 minutes.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Well, soon featuring Weedbot.
	Soon featuring Weedbot.
	Okay.
	tbot.substack.com.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	Awesome.
	All right.
	Well, thank you, Hakeem.
	It's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
	Thanks for coming in.
	Thanks for all that you do.
	Looking forward to getting you the new model.
	Cheers, Mike.
	All right.
	Good to be here.
	Thank you for watching, everybody.
	Hope you learned some things here.
	It's really critical to get up to speed on how to protect your privacy, your freedom, and use technology that doesn't spy on you.
	So again, go to abovephone.com slash Brighteon.
	We'll take you to the page there.
	Or abovephone.com/slash ranger.
	And there's a discount code.
	I mean, there's a discount when you use that code at checkout, I think it is, right?
	You enter it at checkout.
	And it's all discounted.
	It's all pre-discounted for you.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And that discount applies to the phones and the notebooks.
	That's right.
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	So check it out again, abovephone.com/slash Brighteon.
	And you'll get a 45-minute session of tech support with a live non-weedbot human who will help you with any questions you have, get everything up and running.
	So check it out.
	And thanks for watching today.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
	And if anybody has a weed-pulling robot, we'll be happy to demo it here in the studio.
	But I think my dog Roadie might tear it to pieces because he did that with our DTV mannequin.
	A rip.
	Yeah.
	He's missing an arm.
	You know, I say attack dog.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He doesn't like mannequins and robots.
	Probably a good thing to have these days.
	He can guard the inside.
	The robots can guard the outside.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he'll rip Terminator's legs off.
	He's like Chewbacca in Star Wars.
	Literally.
	Rips the arms off droids.
	Yeah, very cool.
	All right.
	Thanks for watching.
	Take care, everybody.
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