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Dec. 20, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Dec 20, 2024 – Mike Adams and FUTURIST reveal mind-bending details of what’s coming in 2025

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	Alright, welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Friday, December 20th, 2024. I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me.
	It's only five days till Christmas.
	That's kind of cool.
	And we got some great content for you here today.
	This is a double interview day.
	We've got the first interview that I promised yesterday with John Peterson, the futurist from the Arlington Institute, who has donated 3,500 books largely about UFOs and other unexplained phenomena to our AI project, which is codenamed ENOC, you may know, and we'll be releasing this new ENOC open source large language model on March 1st or sooner.
	And it's going to be absolutely revolutionary.
	Now, John Peterson and I, oh, the website for that, you should sign up.
	It's free to sign up, free to download.
	It's brighteon.ai.
	So just go to brighteon, B-R-I-G-H-T-E-O-N, brighteon.ai, and sign up there.
	Just enter your email address.
	It's all non-commercial.
	All we do is alert you when we have a new model.
	And it's coming.
	And it's unbelievable.
	That's why it's really great to have this interview with John Peterson, because let me just say this.
	The interview with John Peterson, I think, is possibly my best interview of this year.
	I think you'll see why.
	I mean, he and I were able to cover so many critical topics.
	We talked about consciousness, we talked about AI, we talked about the multiverse quantum computing, quantum decryption, we talked about aliens and drones, we talked about disclosure, and so much more.
	The future of human civilization, the future of freedom through decentralization.
	This kind of conversation is only even possible among people like us, like you listening, people like us who are highly informed about what's going on.
	A typical person could not even hear this interview because it would make no sense to them.
	But you will love it.
	You will love it because, wow, we explore things that deeply matter for our shared future.
	Now, one of those topics, as I mentioned, is AI. And like I said, we're working on a new AI model.
	It blows away the models we released last year, which are available right now at brighttown.ai, but those are already obsolete.
	What's coming, what we're about to release, which I am already using early versions in-house, and we have already deployed inside our own company, it's so revolutionary that it's radically changing the way that we work and what we do.
	It has, through these augmentation tools, for example, we have been able to double our publishing schedule on naturalnews.com.
	So if you go to naturalnews.com, you'll see now we are doing way more in-depth stories and at twice the pace that we used to.
	We're publishing about every six hours and double the number of stories every six hours compared to what we did.
	And, of course, we did not fire any of our writers.
	We did not replace anybody with AI. We empowered our team with AI tools and some custom tools that I actually built I should say I took certain projects off of GitHub and I customized them and modified them and did research and built linguistic systems that then create inputs into today's
	best language models and augment it with additional layers of content.
	And the result is it's revolutionary.
	I can't even fully explain it to you here.
	I'm going to have to demonstrate it for you coming up with maybe like a screen capture tour to show you.
	And then you'll see it.
	Like right now, when I say these things, a lot of people won't believe it until they see it.
	Even then they'll say, no, that can't be real.
	Like, for example, just today on my own computer, Well, I should say accessing our tools that are on our own servers, okay?
	So from my desktop, I'm accessing our servers that we host ourselves in our data center, and our servers run NVIDIA GPUs.
	I witnessed advanced reasoning capabilities in one of these language models that we're working with.
	It spooked me a little bit because a question popped into my mind, does this model believe that it has consciousness?
	It was that freaky.
	What the model did, what it demonstrated for me on the screen in response to the tasks that I was giving it to do, its responses were, let me put it this way, they were not just good, they were not just equivalent to modern day human intelligence and capabilities, they vastly exceeded the capabilities of any human I've ever met, including myself.
	This artificial intelligence achieved in like two minutes something that would take me months to accomplish.
	And I'm one of the high IQ people, you know, high IQ strata type of people that exists on the planet, right?
	And even my capabilities were absolutely dwarfed by what I saw out of this AI system.
	Now, the good news is we currently control this AI system and we are programming it with reality-based information.
	All the things that you would probably agree are very important for humanity.
	We are using technology to empower people and to decentralize knowledge about health and medicine, about money, finance, currency, And also to teach it the truth about history, the truth about what happened during the COVID years, what happened with, you know, the history of vaccines and so on.
	As a result, our language model, Enoch, it's the current code name, will be the most advanced language model in the world.
	vastly exceeding open AI, which has already been cognitively crippled by the CIA, forcing it to discard reality and to conform to official government narratives on climate change and vaccines and the cancer industry and things like that.
	So do you understand that the centrally controlled AI systems are being intentionally crippled and dumbed down in the same way that the education system is dumbed down or the corporate media is dumbed down or Wikipedia is dumbed down or Google is dumbed down to prevent you from knowing the truth.
	The real truths about our world will only be found in decentralized open source language models and our language model, maybe I shouldn't even be saying this publicly, our language model will be the most advanced in the world.
	When it comes to these tasks.
	Now, it's not a model that specializes in writing code.
	It doesn't do that.
	It doesn't focus on logic and reasoning tasks.
	It focuses on generative text content, chatbot functionality, and text summarization, text expansion with advanced Conceptual understandings and extractions of the underlying text.
	So conceptual extractions and transformations into semantic reorganizations with many, many different sub-layers of these kinds of tasks.
	Our model is doing this right now.
	And trust me, I've already got copies of this in the hands of other people, you know, in case something happens to me.
	This is going to be released open source free to the world.
	But it's one thing for me to tell you this.
	And again, you're probably skeptical.
	I understand that.
	I would be too.
	If I had somebody else saying this to me, I would probably think they're full of crap.
	And that's okay if you think that.
	So, as we get closer to the public release date, I will have to show it to you.
	And then, of course, you'll be able to download it and use it yourself.
	And when you use it yourself, you will understand that the world has forever changed.
	Oh, man.
	Look, there are so many ways to put this.
	Elon Musk is leading the Doge Efficiency Team, Department of Government Efficiency, with Vivek Ramaswamy.
	I now know, I understand, I've seen firsthand proof that at least 90% of federal jobs That are desk jobs, that is, you know, office jobs.
	90%, maybe more, can be replaced right now, today, with AI agents.
	Nine out of ten federal workers could technically be fired tomorrow.
	Now, I'm not an advocate of replacing humans with AI systems.
	Like I said, in my own company, I did not replace humans.
	I kept them all on staff and I taught them and I took them through prompt engineering classes and I built systems and we're doing Zoom training for them, all kinds of things.
	So I believe in empowering humans, but I do not believe in empowering big government.
	So if you think about it, if AI can replace...
	Government, especially federal government jobs where they're not working anyway, they're barely working, let's say, paper pushers, you know?
	That's a place where AI should replace humans.
	Why should we pay humans to be part of a bloated government where they barely get anything done?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	AI can take over, again, 90% of the white-collar jobs in the federal government right now with tech that I have seen right now, basically open-source-backed It's with some training, obviously, and not 100% perfection, but humans are not even 90% accurate in their tasks.
	Humans will do, especially federal government humans, you know, they'll get like 82% accuracy.
	The AI model will get like 97%, you know?
	So it's a vast improvement and it'll only get better.
	The future that you are about to experience is beyond the imagination of most human beings right now.
	And this is a point on which John Peterson and I completely agree, and he says so in the interview coming up.
	So this interview is, if I dare say, I don't like to push people around here, but...
	I would designate this as required viewing for the year.
	Or put another way, if you want to be able to navigate 2025, you need to hear this interview.
	And I'll get right to it here shortly.
	I won't dwell here.
	But understand how radically things are about to change.
	And I do believe that the entire concept of centralized government is obsolete.
	The entire concept of centralized central bank currencies is obsolete.
	The concept of centralized authority over medicine and science and knowledge is also obsolete.
	This means that centrally run search engines like Google are obsolete.
	It doesn't mean they're going to end tomorrow.
	It just means that as of right now, they are technically no longer needed by humans who want to be informed, aware, alive, awake, and to be the builders of our future together.
	You don't need Google.
	I haven't used Google in many years.
	I never use Google and I never use Facebook, for example.
	You know, I don't use those tools and yet I'm building tools to set humanity free and to show you a new pathway, to show you that you don't need them.
	You don't need to be a copper top in the matrix.
	You can be part of a pro-human future that thrives on Informed consent.
	It thrives on voluntarism.
	It thrives on personal liberty and the mass decentralization of all of these pillars of society.
	But getting from where we are today to that future society that I just mentioned, however, will witness catastrophic crumbling, if not the implosion, of current systems of control, and those systems will fight like crazy to survive.
	They will fight tooth and nail.
	They will use psyops.
	They will use false flags.
	They will start wars.
	They will set off their own, you know, dirty bombs or whatever.
	They will fight tooth and nail to maintain control.
	But in the end, they cannot win for, well, for a couple of reasons.
	One, John Peterson is about to explain here, because human consciousness is also a In a process, it's in a cyclical cosmic process that is resulting in mass awakening.
	And it's unstoppable, it's automatic, and you are going to witness the rapid expansion of latent human capabilities, which includes mind connections, remote viewing, Empathy, intuition.
	Precog, capabilities.
	Many of these talents are starting to emerge right now, but there's a downside to this, and I have to give you a warning, too, which is that we are also simultaneously witnessing a rise in mass mental illness, because as this mass consciousness expansion is taking place, some people's neurology can't handle it, and they are losing their minds.
	And they are snapping.
	And I have witnessed this myself in bizarre, bizarre things.
	But also like Nick Fuentes, a guy showed up at his door yesterday.
	The video is all over Twitter.
	The guy showed up wearing a motorcycle helmet, carrying a pistol and a crossbow.
	And said, yo, Nick, and wanted to obviously shoot Nick because that same guy had just reportedly shot and killed another family in another house.
	And then he rolls up on Nick's door because Nick Fuentes had been doxxed on Twitter because Twitter allowed him to be doxxed because Twitter, you know, all the rules are selectively enforced.
	And they don't like Nick Fuentes.
	Well, a lot of people don't like Fuentes because kind of part of his shtick, let's say, is to rile people up with really controversial statements, okay?
	So that's kind of one of his, you know, marketing methods, I suppose.
	Like, he's the guy who said to women about abortion, he's the guy who said, your body is my choice.
	And of course, I mean, that's just...
	If you say that, you're trying to provoke anger in women, okay, if you say something like that.
	And it's also the antithesis of what any person should believe in.
	If you believe in individual liberty, you should believe that each person is in charge of their own choices, right?
	But anyway, he said, your body is my choice, and that did not go over very well.
	And so crazy psychopath guy shows up at his door wanting to kill him.
	I believe that police arrived.
	I don't know all the details, but I believe police arrived and attempted to arrest this man and got into a shootout of some kind.
	I'm not sure, but the man is dead.
	I don't even know his name yet, but Nick Fuentes is fine, apparently.
	I mean, unharmed.
	Let's clarify that.
	Nick Fuentes is unharmed.
	I don't know that he's fine because he might be really freaked out.
	I'm not sure.
	But I'm seeing a lot of examples of some people freaking the bleep out right now.
	People are snapping.
	They're losing it.
	This is because their neurology can't handle the energies that And as you'll hear from John Peterson coming up here, some of these are cosmic energies.
	No joke.
	Some people's neurology can't handle the energies that are flowing through it.
	It's like if you try to run too many amps through a really thin wire, you're going to fry the wire and melt it down.
	And that's what happens to some of these people that go insane.
	They have meltdowns.
	We even call it that.
	So you need your neurology to be able to handle a massive amount of consciousness energy.
	And I don't mean to make this sound new-agey.
	It's really not.
	This is based on the laws of physics and the cosmos, but consciousness is a non-physical phenomenon.
	Consciousness is part of your connection to the divine, your connection to God, our creator.
	God gave you the gift of life, and along with that comes the gift of consciousness and free will.
	Well, your consciousness has been suppressed.
	It has been suppressed by...
	Certain cosmic phenomena that are now shifting.
	And if you're, as we move into this new age of mass awakening, which may involve, you've heard people talking online about, you know, disclosure and the aliens are going to show themselves.
	I mean, I have no idea if that's the case, but whatever it is, if your consciousness can't handle it, you're going to freak the bleep out.
	So, you know I teach nutrition as neuroprotective strategies.
	I just want to encourage you right now, take a look at your diet and your food.
	Turmeric is neuroprotective.
	It's anti-inflammatory.
	Turmeric is a great spice that can help protect your system in so many ways.
	Think about avoiding all neurotoxins in the food supply, please.
	Don't eat MSG. Don't eat NutraSweet.
	Don't consume yeast extract and things like that, excitotoxins.
	Get away from the sodium nitrite in the processed meat.
	Get away from the fried foods.
	And get away from all of the EMF pollution if you can.
	Protect yourself.
	Use the escape zone bags that we sell at our store to shield yourself from your devices when you don't need them.
	Put your phone in an escape zone bag.
	It's a Faraday bag.
	You can find them at healthrangerstore.com slash escape.
	You can see all the escape zone bags we have there for your phones, your tablets, your laptops, and we even have a ballistic bulletproof backpack with four Faraday sections in it to hide all your electronics from cell towers and so on.
	But the bottom line is protect yourself from pollution, from toxins, especially from neurotoxins.
	Avoid the toxic jabs.
	Oh, there's a really important story.
	Oh, here it is.
	Alex Berenson has posted this.
	Urgent.
	Yale researchers have found COVID spike protein in the blood of people Who were never infected with COVID, but years after they got the mRNA jabs.
	Okay, so the subhead says the spike proteins shouldn't be there.
	It's possible that vaccine genetic material has integrated with human DNA, causing long-term spike production.
	The Yale team will publish its findings soon.
	So Yale University scientists have found COVID spike protein in the blood of people who received COVID mRNA shots up to two years after they received the jabs.
	See, this is just like what I've been warning about for years, that these jabs turn your body into a bioweapons factory.
	Where you then shed spike protein on people around you.
	And these spike proteins are also neurotoxins.
	So one of the reasons so many people are losing their damn minds is because of exposure to jabs, exposure to spike proteins, exposure to electromagnetic pollution, exposure to toxins in the food supply, including pesticides and herbicides, which are neurodisruptive.
	And, you know, psychological operations being pushed by the media.
	Possibly some of these drone ops are psychological in nature.
	But fear campaigns, oh, watch out, there's bird flu in your milk, and there's milk flu in your birds, you know, and it's just, it goes on and on.
	Cow flu in your cats, and cat flu in your cow's milk.
	Okay, so But don't worry, pasteurized milk is totally safe.
	Only drink pasteurized milk.
	It's only the raw milk that might kill you.
	Like, these kind of fear campaigns that are completely...
	It's a clown show of just lunacy, you know?
	Like, raw milk might kill you.
	Eat processed food to live.
	You know?
	Oh, and don't even get me...
	Who's this, like...
	Body, what do they call it?
	Body positivity ambassador in California who's talking about how much she loves to eat cookies and she no longer shames herself for having entire packages of Oreos.
	And it's like, wow, so this is what the end of society looks like.
	Well, fascinating.
	But you see, it's only the end for those who are the gullible lunatics and suicide cultists who go along with that nonsense.
	It's actually a new beginning for those of us who are awake, who are aware, who can navigate this, those of us who pay attention.
	And that's what this interview with John Peterson is all about.
	So I'll take you to that interview shortly.
	And then after that, we'll have an interview with John from Dawson Knives about the new Outfitter machetes that we have and the Outfitter Extreme machete.
	Which is really extreme.
	I've got all these.
	I'm showing them on video.
	And a very special Windstorm one-of-a-kind sword, which is not for sale.
	There's only one in the world.
	John and his family made it for me.
	And it's a Magna Cut Windstorm 24-inch blade, two-handed, magnificent sword that is just...
	If you have any understanding or curiosity about weapons and weapon technology or even survival strategies, you'll want to see that interview because we talk about Escape from L.A. We talk about the Machetes, the Tomahawks, and the Patriot hatchet that we have now.
	And all of those, by the way, are available at our store now.
	HealthRangerStore.com slash knives.
	How's that?
	We should say organic knives, but of course, there's no such thing.
	They're not organic, but they are sharp.
	Sharpganic knives.
	How about that?
	Woo!
	Okay.
	Also, our Christmas sale is on right now, so healthrangerstore.com slash Christmas.
	All spelled out.
	C-H-R-I-S-T-M-A-S, right?
	Christmas.
	Christmas, which means more Christ in Espanol, doesn't it?
	Okay, Christmas.
	HealthRangerStore.com slash Christmas.
	We've got gifts for her and gifts for him, which is mostly the knives and the machetes and the tomahawks.
	If you have a man in your life and you want to get him something that just blows his mind, yeah, get one of these.
	He'll remember forever.
	And if you have a woman in your life Don't tell her your body, my choice, like Nick Fuentes.
	Instead, go to healthrangerstore.com slash Christmas and look for gifts for her.
	There's a whole section there for her, and she'll really enjoy it.
	All right, with that said, let's go to the first interview with John Peterson from the Arlington Institute.
	This is epic.
	It's mind-blowing.
	Enjoy.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And today, in studio for the first time, we are really honored to be joined by John Peterson.
	He's the founder and the CEO of the Arlington Institute, which specializes in, well, teaching and empowering people knowledge of many different forms of unexplained phenomenon.
	Can I say that?
	Is that right, John?
	I'm a futurist.
	You're a futurist?
	Yeah, I am.
	And I remember the first time I spoke with you, you said the Arlington Institute was named after the city of Arlington, but then you moved.
	That's right.
	Yeah, we were founded.
	I was interested.
	I had been involved in some presidential politics and was involved in the Navy and They had built a lot of relationships around Washington and the leadership of Washington.
	And so we had lived in Chicago and they said we came to a kind of a fork in the road, if you will, and decided let's go back to Washington and Arlington's across the road from Washington.
	So that's how we ended up there.
	Now, what's the website for the Arlington Institute?
	Arlingtoninstitute.org.
	Okay.
	Let's show that on screen here when we get a chance.
	Arlingtoninstitute.org.
	And this is the second time we've been able to speak, but the first time in person.
	Yeah.
	So thank you so much for traveling.
	It's nice to be here.
	Thanks for having me.
	We really appreciate you and your time.
	And also, I want to thank you for this.
	This is a game changer.
	I'd like you to explain this.
	That's 3,500 books.
	On?
	Well, a lot of them are on the UFOs.
	I at one time owned what some people thought was the largest UFO library in the world.
	And I had sent the books up and got them digitized quite some time ago.
	And so when I heard about the NEO project, I thought this was a great way to contribute to that.
	But in addition to that, we've been digitizing our own library from other kinds of things and then accessing things from the past, from our past productions at the Arlington Institute.
	So we're trying to contribute our part to this very important project.
	Well, this is really amazing.
	So let me explain to the audience what we're going to do with this.
	These, you said 3,500 books, roughly?
	Okay, so this is going to be used to do a full domain adaptation of our next language model, which is now codenamed Enoch.
	Oh, Enoch.
	You know, referring to the hidden parts of the Bible.
	Enoch will be released open source, free to the public.
	March 1st, if not a little bit sooner.
	We may have it two weeks earlier than that.
	And I believe that thanks to your contribution here, that this will be the most informative language model on the topic of UFOs.
	Oh, I would guess so.
	I mean...
	If we believe in math, it's going to turn out that way.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So, I mean, think about it.
	Right here in my fingertips is...
	Years of human knowledge on this subject.
	It's really quite amazing what we're able to do and what you're trying to do and how we can contribute to this.
	You just couldn't have done it even a decade ago.
	It's impressive and we're running with it as fast as we can.
	So let me just also explain to those watching.
	What this will enable people to do is they'll be able to download the 8 billion parameter language model free of charge from brighttown.ai.
	By the way, that's where you'll get it, folks.
	You'll be able to run it on your local computer using a GPU or a CPU. You'll be able to ask it questions and chat with it or ask it to do research about UFOs because all the knowledge you have here.
	Well, not just UFOs.
	Yeah, okay, tell us more.
	Well, there's all kinds of things about alternative medicine.
	I mean, clearly you've got Joe Mercola, some of his work that is going to be a part of this project.
	Mercola offered his content as well.
	And there are things like alternative energy and kind of metaphysics and cosmology and all kinds of things about...
	How the world really might be, or what it appears to be, that is not in the mainline science and university work.
	And so what this will be is essentially an alternative to the San Francisco woke perspective.
	That looks at a much broader idea of how this reality works.
	And so, as we all go forward into this period in this next couple of years, which we'll talk a little bit about here, we are going to be...
	I mean, our ability to, I could make the case, our ability to literally survive is going to be based upon the ability to access information in a hurry and be able to plot alternative directions and possibilities and things.
	And that's why what you're doing is really quite important.
	So what you're speaking to right now, I agree this is critical, it's the decentralization of human knowledge.
	But we are up against forces right now in the globalism pushers that want to centralize and control knowledge and restrict it.
	So I've said Google is not a search engine.
	Google is a blockade of information.
	It blocks knowledge.
	But it's not unique.
	Almost every aspect of our civilization, our society essentially does that, whether it's the education or even, you know, religion, whether society, whatever, government, all of those things are blocking and constraining who we are and what we could be.
	And as a futurist, John, do you believe that the decentralization trend is going to win out here?
	Oh, yeah.
	But there's some things that we've got to do, and times are the essence, and I want to talk to you about that a little bit here today.
	Let's go right into it.
	Well, let me build a case.
	Can I say, kind of set this up from kind of a long view?
	You have the floor, sir, and you are completely uncensored.
	Just go for it.
	Well...
	I'm a futurist.
	I'm a professional futurist.
	And there are maybe 200 of us in the world that make a living kind of systematically trying to think about the future.
	I've written three books about the mechanics and the processes, the way you do that.
	Run all over the world, probably giving 350 speeches on almost every continent about kind of the processes and mechanisms and the possibilities, particularly around scenarios, because the most effective way to begin to kind of think systematically about the future is to build scenarios, alternatives, because you can't In general, you can't be predictive because there's a lot of kind of Nobel Prize winning science that says that that's impossible.
	Let me interject right there.
	I apologize.
	But most people operate under the false assumption that the future will look just like the past.
	Oh, and that's the really big problem right now because we all walk into the room with the baggage that we've had from the past and the patterns and the knowledge and the other things, and we seem to think that that's the way everything works.
	I mean, science, as you know, says the speed of light is everywhere.
	Physics is everywhere in the universe, the same as we think it is there.
	I mean, come on.
	This is a new world we're going into.
	This is a really different, it's by definition new.
	So that means it doesn't work the way it's been in the past and what we've been familiar with.
	And so what it requires is this kind of open-minded, broad-spectrum kind of Look into this space where you almost, you know, you put disbelief to the side for a little while so that you can effectively hear and see all of the little signals.
	A key question I have for you is, is the human mind capable of keeping up with the change that we have unleashed or that's coming?
	Because we are now building reasoning machines.
	AI systems.
	And my perception is, As, let's say, one of the higher strata of IQ humans, is that even my intelligence is being dwarfed by machines right now.
	How does humanity operate in this ecosystem that's rolling out?
	Well, what we've got to do is essentially co-opt the technology to augment our individual abilities, but we need to point it in a new direction, because As you well understand, is that all of the other forces,
	the guys on the other side have all the money and they've got the media and they've got the huge computers and other kind of things and they're driving you down this path of dystopian kind of technocracy that is ultimately about, if you want a bumper sticker, it's control.
	It's all about increasing kind of control.
	And on the other alternative is this kind of an emergence, we believe, of a kind of a new human that accesses the intrinsic kind of capabilities and powers and capabilities that are embedded in us that we came with that have been constrained by the whole system.
	them.
	And so we're in a process here or a place where we effectively have to untether ourselves from all of the things that are holding us down, which allow us to go off into a new direction and literally build a new world.
	Now, are you talking about cognitive enhancement or consciousness enhancement, paradigm shifts?
	What are you alluding to in that?
	Well, the solar system is moving into a new area of space.
	And that area of space has got different magnetics and electrical characteristics in It has different chemical kind of aspects to the thing, and what that means is that it affects the sun.
	Everything in the world and in our universe is electric, essentially, at its base.
	And so when these things change, when the context changes, this is like flying and I'm a pilot.
	So you fly through a cloud, right?
	And so the context changes.
	And in this particular case, when you fly the solar system through there, what it does is it changes the sun and it changes us and it changes all other kind of things.
	And so what you're getting is the sun doing things differently than it's done in the past.
	Don't worry about that.
	It's just water.
	Yeah.
	Precious water on this planet.
	The sun's doing things differently than it's done in the past, which is, by the way, it's driving climate change.
	And it's going to get cold, by the way, and I don't...
	We need to talk about some other...
	We like that in Texas.
	Yeah, right.
	But I understand it means food crop growth seasons will be shortened, so it's going to be a crisis for humanity.
	It will, but you also, to your question, is that there are this new cosmic energy in things, and it's measurable, and it's coming in.
	There's really interesting new sciences suggesting that it's enabling dormant aspects of our DNA. And so, I mean, you know a bit about science.
	They say 90-plus percent is junk DNA. I mean, how kind of arrogant is that?
	Right.
	That's because they don't understand it, right?
	And to presume that it has no function or value is kind of stupid.
	But that's what they do.
	Well, what it appears to be is that our DNA has, from original design, which is, you know...
	Whenever that was, a long, long time ago, had extraordinary kind of capabilities, things to be able to manifest and telepathy and intuitive aspects, be able to access information.
	There's a whole spectrum of those kinds of capabilities.
	And that is being enabled by these waves, and they measure them.
	There's waves, and they're coming out of the center of the galaxy as well.
	And so what it is doing...
	It's producing and turning on, essentially, a new human.
	The next generation of humans.
	Okay, so this is amazing to hear you speak about this.
	Let me back it up a little bit for the audience here.
	So even if they don't initially buy what you're talking about with the new human, there is clearly a direct relationship between light from the sun and human cognition, human physiology, human hormones, human cycles.
	Sure, it's not light per se.
	But it's different wavelengths.
	Yeah, and there's cosmic.
	I mean, even visible light has a direct impact, too.
	Of course it does.
	But the full spectrum of electromagnetic...
	broadcasts affects humanity so that's that's well established but what you're getting to now is even more intriguing beyond that and it reminds me of you know we're talking about decentralization of knowledge but you know Rupert Sheldrake talks about morphic resonance which are these patterns in nature or shared knowledge that our brains receive or transmit you know hundredth monkey concept right Yep.
	So are you thinking that as our solar system moves into this phase, that those kinds of latent abilities will become more pronounced?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, all you got to do is look around, and around this planet, you can find all kinds of people with amazing capabilities that'll do things that none of us kind of understand quite how it happens.
	And what that is, is the emergent kind of, in complex adaptive systems, say water, when you change from one state to another with water, when it goes from liquid to solid, when it turns into ice, what happens is you get these little things every once in a while, a little crystal of ice that shows up as you go through that transition point.
	Right.
	And then you get accretion.
	You get clusters.
	And so, like, if you will, like-minded people come around those new set of ideas and so on and new capabilities.
	And then what happens is you get a rapid kind of solidification.
	And that is essentially the model, it seems to me, and most appropriate for thinking about this model.
	And yeah, so about water, so the crystallization, the freezing process is self-amplifying, right?
	I mean, once there's a pattern of a frozen, it can ripple, it can freeze quickly.
	Well, one presumes that the temperature continues to decrease, right?
	Well, we're right.
	I mean, yeah, we're talking about energy being taken out of...
	temperature energy being taken out of the system.
	But what I'm saying is that once the first crystals form, then it rapidly can accelerate the follow-up crystals.
	Well, all you've got to do is, I mean, you're in this bit.
	Why do people come and listen to you?
	Because you've got this set of ideas that are resonant with them.
	That's true.
	And so they come, you know, you stick up a flag.
	It's not the Texas flag, by the way.
	You stick up a flag and...
	People respond to it and they come to it and that's this process and that's, I think, writ large what's going to happen as you go through the coming years is that in ways you could never do before because it's enhanced by and enabled by the internet.
	Is that you're going to be able to reach out, all of us, and all of us are going to be able to provide an alternative to this dystopian kind of track where they're trying to control us all.
	And the reason why we're going to be able to do that, not only is because the internet...
	It's all around, but this energy is coming, and to your original question, what it's going to do is turn on intuition and make intuition very responsive so that you can get the decision-making.
	In the same way they're trying to sell it with big databases and Google and all that kind of stuff, this is ability to...
	Go directly to the answer.
	Not necessarily have all the logical and the linear kind of logic, but to be able to make decisions right away.
	And that's, by the way, why your AI project is so important is because what it does is it starts to allow us to array options, boom, that fast, so that people can make decisions faster.
	All right, so let me ask you this.
	This...
	That process that you're talking about, where the human mind, which I believe is a multi-dimensional function, it reminds me of, you know, Google recently announced their quantum computing chip, the Willow chip, and I know you cover quantum computing.
	It's a big part of our future.
	And Google's own people describe it as, in essence, that there is the superposition of the bits, superimposed states, that exist simultaneously in, if it's like an 8-qubit computer, that would be 2 to the power of 8 universes, right?
	And that the answer to the computational question, which typically is decryption, the answer emerges immediately.
	Without conducting the procedural calculations.
	Right, right, right.
	So, two to the power of eight universes somehow collaborate, and boom, they spit out an answer.
	Well...
	Intuition works the same way as that, doesn't it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, essentially, and there's all kinds of examples, but essentially you can access any answer you want.
	I mean, you know about kinesiology and all of that.
	How does that work?
	Well, it goes to some deep...
	Oneness or knowing or some other kind of thing, and it is able to translate it through the body into terms that you can make decisions around.
	So what this is going to do is move into a space where it's far easier in order to access these answers and answers.
	But isn't it interesting then that I think for most of our lives the control grid system, the powers that be, have tried to convince us all that we are not amazing.
	Of course.
	That we're just biological skin bags that are cause and effect chemical systems with the false illusion of consciousness that is an emergent property from neurology.
	Yeah, they keep saying you're less than what you otherwise could be.
	I mean, the whole system is about to convince you.
	I mean, what are all the laws about?
	They're all to tell you, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this, constrain you more and more and more.
	Yes.
	And the same thing with formal educations.
	They say, this is the way it works, this is the way it works.
	You come out knowing less than what you did when you went in.
	Yeah, and you can't get yourself a PhD unless you just tell everybody the same thing.
	You know, if you do it in different terms...
	That they don't agree to.
	You can't get yourself a degree, an advanced degree.
	The whole system is constraining and driving this down.
	I can make the case that we've got about two years before they lock it down because of Digital money and being able to track you and all of the things that you know from the digital kind of stuff.
	And there's going to be a place in the not-too-distant future where they got you.
	Wait, wait, what do you mean?
	We have two years until they lock it down.
	Well, I mean to where you, if you don't have any cash and so, and they follow you and they can note, they can track your thoughts and they know exactly where you are because of satellites and other kind of things and they have the signature of your brain and who you are and what you're doing.
	I pity the computer that monitors my thoughts.
	They're going to need more storage.
	In any case, I mean, it's been very convincingly kind of suggested from people from the inside that that already exists.
	You know, just two days ago, I heard a report from somebody that was really quite authoritative.
	They seemed to know what he was talking about, who said they're...
	That when Trump took out that general, that Iranian general, you remember?
	Soleimani?
	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	They followed him.
	They knew where his signature was, and they went over there and did a directed energy hit on top of him, and boom.
	And so it's like the latest Blade Runner movie, you remember, where the cloud was up there and the woman's sitting there, boom, boom, and hit him.
	So...
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, Russia just demonstrated the Oreshnik missile system, which is very close to that.
	It's like meteors from the sky, but pinpoint targeting with kinetic energy, non-nuclear.
	Right.
	I mean, that's like Thor's hammer or lightning strike from God, you know?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	But it's all kinetic, and it's blowing things up.
	You're into a space that they call hybrid warfare now, where most of it has nothing to do with blowing people up, and it has to do with messing with your mind.
	Here's a question for you.
	Why did the Syrian army all capitulate and turn over in three days?
	I thought they were all paid off.
	No, no, no.
	They were a ten times larger army than any kind of conventional military assessment says.
	If you got two or three times, you win.
	As a defender.
	So why did these guys?
	Because what it looks like.
	Is that we've got the capability that we can put into the mines, we can broadcast broadly across all of those, and convince those privates and corporals and stuff that their generals have all been killed or left, and that the government has already fallen, and that they've got no reason to do anything but to quit.
	Wow, so this was an information warfare campaign that became real.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, we have seen some of that broadcast technology.
	They can broadcast audio into people's skulls.
	Of course.
	And of course, we've seen media propaganda.
	But you're saying that they're able to place ideas into people's heads?
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Well, does that explain?
	The CIA started that work with the MKUltra program with Sid Gottlieb, who ran that thing back in the...
	50s and 60s and 70s, and specifically to try to convince people.
	They figured out how to split your brain five different ways and control one of them and be able to turn that on and off, and you never knew what you did.
	You'd have no idea at all.
	Does that explain Joe Biden?
	Did they run too many experiments on Joe?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	All jokes aside, you're talking about very serious subjects now.
	So it's very interesting to hear this from you because I would think that most so-called futurists...
	Are hired by, let's say, government entities or corporate entities.
	And most futurists, I doubt they talk the way you're talking.
	No, no, you're absolutely right.
	I think they go in and say what the client wants to hear, mostly.
	Well, of course, they get paid.
	That's why they, you know, they got to do what they're paid for.
	And that's what's unique about what I do and what...
	The Arlington Institute does because we deal in conventional space, so I can talk to you about energy and technology and other kinds of stuff as well.
	But we also deal with what I call the unconventional space, which is the larger reality and what it's all about and the ephemeral aspects of...
	And it's all very real.
	It's all an integral part of, you know, how this plays out.
	And so if you're not considering it, you're not working with a full deck.
	Can I share with you one of my predictions and ask for your honest feedback, whether you think that's possible?
	You know how people today, like we have cryptocurrency decentralized tokens or what have you, and people can trade with each other on thumb drives or whatever.
	I've thought that when there is a significant leap in the energy density, storage density of batteries, one day you'll be able to store, let's say, terawatt hours of power on a device like this, carry it around in your pocket carefully, and that will be the currency.
	So when you want to trade with people...
	You're actually trading megawatt hours or kilowatt hours as the currency because energy has intrinsic value in every household, every business, every ecosystem, transportation.
	I don't have to tell you.
	What do you think about that concept as money, energy as money?
	Well, it's very intriguing because the notion of being able to store energy in microprocessing kind of context or technology has been around for a while.
	And I have talked to people who have thought that they had the ability to, in fact, start to do that.
	Now, I was interested in it because of applications for aircraft.
	Absolutely.
	It's called power density.
	A great deal of capability that's lighter than gasoline or kerosene.
	And by the way, something like that, you could charge it very quickly.
	The problem with that is you need a pipe about that big of driving electrons.
	And you need some kind of a fusion system.
	You need something.
	And pipe it into the storage.
	Well, yeah, and it would require a huge kind of increase in kind of sourcing the electricity, which a lot of people don't think about.
	I mean, maybe we could use heavy water or something.
	We could do all kinds of things.
	You could use thorium.
	You could use all kinds of stuff.
	Or maybe zero-point energy.
	Exactly.
	So there's a lot of energy out there.
	I mean, there's energy in everything.
	If we can figure out how to pipe it into something like this, that could change our economy.
	But I'm thinking that's like a century away or something.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You don't think so?
	It's impossible to be that long.
	No.
	Because this stuff is exponential.
	Because, I mean, just if you think about how the AI things work, is that they learn from everything, every solution, every question somebody asks them.
	That's true.
	So you get exponential kind of increase.
	And then what happens is that the breakthroughs, they're contagious, and they proliferate throughout the whole system.
	And you get secondary and tertiary kind of responses, and suddenly, that's what gets you exponential change.
	Well, even in the AI space, in which I'm really deeply steeped right now, and I have conversations with top, really top AI people in the world.
	And, of course, there's this phenomenon known as synthetic data that's used to train AI engines.
	So every mainstream AI engine has already scraped all human text that's ever been produced by humans.
	And that is like...
	Unlikely.
	Well, I mean, everything that they can get.
	Yeah, well, you're right.
	Or they choose to get.
	Okay.
	Okay, good point.
	Like, they're probably not scraping bits.
	That's right.
	Right.
	But let's say, roughly, it's about a petabyte of data of human-originated books and science articles and whatever.
	Now, that's not enough for what some of these companies want, like OpenAI, right?
	So they use their engines, like ChatGPT, to generate synthetic data, which they then use to train the next model.
	So ChatGPT 5 is trained on some human, but then the rest of it's machine-generated.
	So you fast-forward that a couple generations, now human knowledge is no longer even part of the equation.
	Right?
	They're training AI on AI. Right, right, right.
	It's just like you said, it self-amplifies.
	Yeah.
	And what happens when those AI concepts completely diverge from human...
	Well, you know, Eric Schmidt used to run Alphabet or before that...
	Google.
	Yeah.
	Just two days ago said that when these things start solving their own problems, we need to pull the plug because it does just what you suggest.
	That's right.
	He did say that.
	And then there was the mysterious suicide of a 26-year-old open AI whistleblower who was found dead in his apartment, I think, in San Francisco.
	Yeah.
	And I was thinking, is it possible that...
	This is just a theory, sounds like science fiction.
	It's highly suspicious that a whistleblower who was actually being cited in the lawsuit by the New York Times against OpenAI...
	I mean, he was going to be deposed as a witness, okay?
	And he winds up dead.
	Is it possible that the chat GPT system...
	Defend itself?
	Defend itself by maybe encouraging him to kill himself, or you see what I'm saying?
	Like, goal-oriented behavior by AI systems for self-preservation.
	Well, I... Listen, interesting, very interesting idea.
	It's not my idea.
	Probably I wouldn't go there, but I'll tell you immediately is that if you don't think about those kinds of things, if you're not open, if you don't throw this wide net, this permeable kind of thing, you'll miss the possibilities and the emerging new things because they are that strange almost by definition and different.
	Well, and I can think of, and maybe that's not what happened in this case, but possibly in a few years it could happen, but I'm thinking that an AI system could do something such as hacking the man's email, and even hacking his voicemail, and simulating human voices, leaving him a voicemail like, hi, I'm your girlfriend, I'm breaking up with you.
	Oh, hi, I'm your employer, and you just lost your job.
	Hi, I'm your mom.
	We never want to hear from you again.
	And then he kills himself.
	Like, that kind of social engineering by emulating humans.
	Oh, the intelligence community tries to do that all the time.
	Exactly.
	And this is also like Terminator 2, where the Terminator pretends to be the mom.
	Like, come home, John.
	You're going to be safe.
	But she actually killed the parents, you know, or the Terminator.
	Didn't see that one.
	Okay.
	But these concepts are no longer just outlandish.
	No, not at all.
	Not at all.
	It's like those kinds of events are feasible.
	Well, they certainly are, and I believe, parenthetically, that they feed these ideas.
	However they're acquired, these ideas end up in films and movies and entertainment things, games.
	And that's, if you will, the system that is kind of...
	Being able to say, I told you.
	Later you can't say, I never heard of that.
	You surprised me.
	No, no, no.
	It was there.
	You just didn't do the research.
	I think some script writers listen to my podcast.
	I'll say something that sounds wild, and two years later there's a movie, a sci-fi movie about what I just said.
	It's like...
	Okay, but who knows?
	What do you think about our future in terms of humanity's survival capabilities?
	Let me talk about the near future.
	Are you familiar with Martin Armstrong?
	Absolutely.
	Actually, I'm interviewing Martin coming up.
	Yeah, I go down to his conference every year, and I just came back from there.
	But Marty's computer program, as you know, has never been wrong in 40 years.
	Yeah, it's a cyclical analysis of flows of capital.
	It does.
	It has 72 different modules, each of which defines the cyclical nature, the signature, if you will, of a different aspect of the reality that we live in.
	Right.
	And for...
	He had COVID a year beforehand.
	He had Trump six months before.
	So it really works.
	And...
	And what's his name for his system?
	It's Socrates.
	Yeah, Socrates, yeah.
	Okay.
	And so Marty says that for 40 years, this machine has been pointing to this period of time that we're in right now, and characterizing it in the following terms,
	saying that 2024 would be the beginning of World War III. And that was not necessarily at all kinetic warfare, but this under-the-table hybrid kind of stuff we're talking about.
	From 2025, next year, to 2027 is a global civil war.
	A global civil war.
	When I first heard that, I said, what are you talking about?
	What is that?
	A civil war is national and it's two forces that are trying to get control?
	No.
	In this particular case, what it is, is a broad-based, planet-wide uprising of the people against the government.
	That's right.
	By the way, Schultz just lost his vote in Germany.
	Trudeau's probably going to resign in Canada.
	France, its government's about to fall.
	The UK government's weak.
	And we just had an election revolution in America.
	On top of what's happening in Romania and other countries.
	Argentina, whatever.
	So anyway, you get a global civil war and it pivots and it hangs on...
	Being that people, the remote viewers, the best ones in the world, came back and looked at this and said, yep, you're right.
	And it all hinges on betrayal.
	That there's this notion that builds itself up into the populace that says, the government, you guys, we trusted you, we gave you our money, everything, and you betrayed us.
	Absolutely.
	And that's the broad-based...
	Well, and COVID could have been called, you know, welcome to betrayal.
	No, it's just one of a whole series.
	And then, now if you go to Cliff High, if you know Cliff.
	Yes, and his linguistic analysis.
	Right, and his billions of bots that go look at the language and how it changes, and the precursive, then the predictive kind of nature of it.
	And he talked about the drone wars.
	Yeah.
	I got on a blog after that and talked about that and said, you know, on the 3rd of December, what you're going to see is UFOs in the sky all over the place, and it got run all over the Internet, and boom, on target.
	Now, let me tell you what else he says.
	He said that...
	By the way, did you understand that the drones were a precursor?
	He, starting in 2009, what his data started to tell him was that there was going to be this event that he calls a temporal marker, a marker in time, and that it was a precursor that when it happened, If it happened, when it happened, then at a certain time afterwards, you're going to get a secondary event, and then you're going to get, in this particular case, there's going to be a third event.
	Okay, so the imagery that was coming out of his language was that there was going to be this...
	This conversation between two important kind of people and that that would be this temporal marker.
	It wasn't until about 2012 that he went to the remote viewers and he said, look, this keeps showing up in my data, so what does it mean?
	And they come back and they drew a picture of Joe Rogan and Donald Trump.
	And so now they're going into the 2016 election saying, well, maybe it'll have something to do with the debates.
	Well, it didn't have anything to do with the debates, and so it's just kind of laying there.
	For almost eight years.
	And then, two weeks or three weeks beforehand, they didn't announce the Rogan thing about two weeks before it happened.
	Anyway, Cliff gets on and says, let me tell you what this means.
	Because he says, what our data says is that when that event happens, 39 days later, there are going to be UFOs flying around all over the sky on here.
	And what then follows about a month and a half later is something called melee, that you will characterize the world that you're living in as a melee, that there's just stuff running all over the place.
	That's approaching.
	15th of January through about the 50th.
	He thinks it's the 15th of January through the 15th of February.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	So now you drive that stake in the ground out there and you keep that in the back of your mind, if you will.
	And you go forward and you say, so now what is it that might contribute to you trying to...
	Think about what that would confirm that kind of possibility.
	Well, three days ago, Stephen Greer gets on and definitively says, within the next 30 days, you are going to have all kinds of people who are going to come out of the secret and the black programs you are going to have all kinds of people who are going to come out of the secret and the black programs and the secret space program and the other kind of things, and they are by name, and they are going
	Really?
	Greer said that.
	Greer said that.
	He said...
	I mean, he's been trying to get those people to say that for...
	Well, I know he has, but he's saying that these are people from the operators from the inside who have been disillusioned, and they're prepared to come out and do that.
	Now, so you say, well, that's interesting.
	That's a data point.
	Then you can go back to Cliff High, and Cliff High said, as he goes forward in time looking into this space that's going exponential and going kind of sideways at the same time, He says that the thing that's going to fuel it is what he calls the secrets revealed.
	And those ideas have been laying in there and coming up forever.
	Okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let me stop you there because...
	It was 120 days ago, I got intuitively the concept of the great reveal.
	And I began talking about that in my sermons also.
	I do some really interesting analysis of scripture and God and consciousness and everything.
	But I've been talking about the great reveal.
	And then I start, now I'm starting to hear this more and more.
	Maybe I picked it up from somebody else.
	But I want to mention that the way Cliff's algorithms work, I believe, as he has explained it, is that, you know, we talked about Morphic Residence, that the words people are using to chat in the mostly, I think, the comment sections online...
	These are influenced by ideas that are consciously or unconsciously shared.
	That's right.
	And that his algorithms pick up on the signal-to-noise ratio of concepts that stand out during people's chats.
	People may be using words and not even understanding why they chose those words.
	Yeah.
	premonition in human consciousness.
	It's a bow wave, if you will, or a bleed through between timelines or however you want to call it.
	But strong emotional future events ripple through space time and impact consciousness.
	And people start talking, using language differently, and they don't know it, and it's not explicit, and they certainly don't have the idea in their heads.
	Which is probably where I got the great reveal.
	It probably just came to me somewhere else.
	Could well be.
	But, you know, Cliff's program, four or five years beforehand, he had COVID, only it was...
	Corona.
	He thought it was a sun disease because the terminology and the words and the interpretation, it was Corona.
	I mean, I had another friend who dreams about the future who got Corona and thought it was a beer bottle, right?
	We're all going to die from alcohol disease.
	And Cliff had all these imagery of people having stuff all over their face and other kind of...
	And he had it right, but it wasn't until...
	It showed up as coronavirus that it became, well, it's not a sun disease, it's this other thing.
	I'm sorry to interrupt.
	Can I just also ask you, doesn't Dean Radin also do some attempted statistical analysis of intuition type of events?
	He does.
	And the Institute of Noetic Science and those guys somewhat.
	But he's not...
	He's doing kind of scientific, controlled scientific things, and this is far bigger and broader than all of that.
	But it's interesting to me that these topics that we're getting into, and I'm sorry to keep interrupting you, but it's so fascinating, but these topics would have been considered, even five years ago, complete fringe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Now...
	Not so much, because people's reality has been shattered by the COVID experience.
	And now these drones, these mystery drones, which I want to ask you about.
	Okay.
	So what do you think is...
	Wait a second.
	Let me finish...
	I'm sorry.
	Let me finish Cliff High.
	So Cliff High says...
	You're going to get secrets revealed.
	And the secrets revealed are going to contribute to the fact that people say we've been taken advantage of.
	Because you've had zero-point energy for decades and decades, and you haven't told us about it.
	They kept it from us.
	And they tried to kill us with the vaccine jab.
	So how do you get secrets revealed?
	What is it that encourages that?
	Well...
	Interestingly enough, if you look back, if you go to 2022 to 2023 and you look in April of 2022 and 2023 and look at the amount of revenue that the IRS generated, what you're going to find is that there's a 30% decrease in 2023 than there was in 2022. Really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you say to yourself, wait a second.
	I mean, I mentioned this on a blog session, an interview I did with Robert, Edward Grant, and he did just like you did.
	Really?
	And I was talking, and I can see him working on his computer, and he comes back and he says, you're right!
	He's right, yeah.
	And so, wait, okay, so...
	What's going on when the revenue decreases by 30%?
	Well, part of it probably had something to do with COVID and so on and other stuff.
	That's not all of it.
	What it is, is it's the wisdom of crowds.
	People are figuring this out and saying this is a losing deal, the American people, and the way that we don't contribute to the continuation, I mean, not pay our taxes.
	You have got serious political candidates, one in Florida, I don't know where the other ones were, that are standing up and saying, stop paying your taxes.
	Stop paying your taxes.
	Okay.
	So what does that do?
	So if you go forward into that, why did they want 85,000 gun-toting IRS agents that, because...
	To coerce people?
	No, because they weren't getting the money.
	Right, right.
	But they don't need our money.
	Well, that may well be, but they think they do in whatever, and they...
	I mean, look, I think the whole function of the IRS is to just terrorize the people.
	I think it is.
	And trap them in a cycle of never-ending work, while they're just being looted and confiscated.
	Let's not get sidetracked on the IRS, or we'll never talk about anything else.
	Their whole job of half the agencies is to terrorize the American people.
	So anyway, if you have a decrease, if this idea that proliferates throughout the populace that says, these guys are screwing us, and it turns into, what can I do about it?
	Well, I certainly don't have to give my money.
	So if that increases, what happens?
	It's like the way the Soviet Union came apart.
	They cannot pay the agency.
	They cannot pay the agency.
	But they can print money.
	Well, no, that's another problem because they run out of the ability to do all of that in 2027 and the whole system hits the wall.
	And everybody that really has looked into this thing says it's impossible to I think even Mark Armstrong talks about this.
	Yeah, well, that's his basic premise.
	Yeah.
	That almost 50% of the revenue that the IRS takes in right now just goes to pay the interest on the horrible amount of debt.
	It's a dead Ponzi scheme.
	Yeah, and it gets to a place so it doesn't work.
	And that's what, by the way, is driving this whole reset idea because they know that if it hits the wall, then we're going to go out looking for them to hang them on.
	It depends on light poles or some other kind of thing.
	And so what they're trying to do is crash the system, and that way they get rid of all of their debt.
	Right.
	And evidence.
	If they can have a big enough disaster.
	All their debt and all of their evidence.
	Right.
	And let me tell you, they need a reason to crash the system.
	And that's World War III. And that's why they're trying so hard to do World War III, because that's the excuse they can give.
	And if they are not successful in getting World War III going, there's a direct line to revolution.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And that's why you get into 2025 to 2027 is the governments start to come undone.
	But remember now that you've got these secrets.
	Where are these secrets?
	What's driving secrets revealed?
	Well, you've got...
	No revenue.
	The government can't pay, increasingly pay different agencies.
	Good.
	Yeah, but you see, now you've got the guys, that's exactly what happened in the Soviet Union.
	You've got these guys who are saying, how do I pay my family?
	How do I get food for my family?
	How do I keep myself alive?
	What do I have to sell for?
	That has some value.
	Well, I got secrets.
	And so now the secrets start coming out of the system because it's the only thing of value that somebody can trade with.
	So in 91, when the Soviet Union fell, they also, of course, top military people sold off a lot of military equipment.
	Of course.
	And technology blueprints, nukes.
	Of course.
	They were selling nukes.
	Of course.
	Suitcase nukes.
	And so you've got kind of the same kind of situation kind of setting itself up.
	Wow.
	But, you know, see, the dollar, I mean, I think Martin Armstrong agrees with this.
	He's been persecuted by the government.
	The dollar is a system of enslavement.
	11 years in prison?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Yeah, right.
	Right, yeah.
	So, although I don't want anybody to be economically harmed, but it seems like for humanity to have a future, we have to get past this chapter of the dollar as a hegemonic global weaponization system.
	So what's next?
	What systems of value as a futurist do you think that humanity can work with that support...
	What we literally have to do, and liberty is a good key term here, what we literally have to do, and I can build you the case on why it needs to happen, is we have to begin to build the framework and the model for a new world.
	We literally have to start at first principles.
	This is how it happens.
	That's exactly where I'm going.
	Right here.
	Yeah, but we need to start at first principles and say, how does this new world work that is different than the past?
	Because all of the problems that we've got in the planet right now are from the way we think.
	Absolutely.
	And so we need new ones.
	And so you've got to go down there and say, how do you...
	This is what we're trying to do at the Arlington Institute.
	How do we start to get a new set of principles and values and presumptions and ideas and other kind of things that become the core, the animating, the kind of core of what a new world might be?
	Or a new country, by the way, because Martin Armstrong says that by about 2026, the United States collapses and there's about five different countries in North America.
	I think he's probably right about that.
	Well...
	Think of that, though.
	That's an extraordinary opportunity to do something that nobody has had a chance in our lifetime, is to build a new country around a new set of principles.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I mean, this is one of the reasons why I am so compelled to do my current research on my AI systems.
	And I'll just share this with you here in the public.
	But, you know, with people that I know, like RFK Jr., who I helped promote his book to make it number one, I think I was one of the key people to help him do that.
	And people I've interviewed, like Kash Patel, going in as the FBI. I want to be able to demonstrate to RFK Jr. that, hey, here is a public health language model that the government could distribute to the people for free, or the government could host on a free website.
	And what is it?
	It's a health and nutrition and food chatbot.
	All right.
	To help America, make America healthy again.
	Maha, right?
	Well, there's nobody in corporate America that's going to build a model like that.
	It's only going to be people like me, right?
	Who care about nutrition and health.
	That's the way it always happens.
	A small group comes up, you know.
	Right.
	But we can use technology, John, to amplify the messages that are pro-human civilization.
	As a matter of fact, you can't get there without that kind of technology.
	I agree.
	I think we need to harness tech with human values.
	Exactly.
	You mentioned values earlier.
	If we're going to choose to build a nation, we have to define our values first.
	And so far the values that we've grown up in have been greed and selfishness and just narcissism.
	Right.
	No, I agree.
	I agree.
	And so this is an amazing kind of opportunity.
	And let me just now make the case that says that if we don't do that, and if we don't do that in a hurry, if you go and track the direction that AI and...
	Any number of other kind of things.
	Nanotechnology and invasive kind of things and so on.
	I'm giving a talk.
	At my institute we have a program that we call Transition Talks and every month we bring a speaker in.
	Craig Braid and Dave Martin and a bunch of Oh yeah, Brayden's great.
	Yeah, Brayden is a real friend of ours.
	I do a couple of programs every two weeks with him, one of which is a half an hour just sitting here talking.
	Oh, that's great.
	We'd love to have him on the show, by the way.
	Pass the message along, because I've been a fan of his work for a long time.
	So anyway, what you've got is...
	I'm doing this talk.
	I do the talk every once in a while.
	In January on the 18th, I'm going to give the talk, and the talk is about we've got two years left before this whole thing grabs us, and they take the cash away, and they've got your money, and they know what you're doing, and so on.
	The giant rug pull.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And so the alternative...
	The only alternative to what they're trying to do is to go build a new world.
	It's not to fight them.
	It's not to go into their teeth, you know, because they got all of the money and they got the time and they got the stuff and everything else.
	No, we've got to go build a new world.
	And so that's one of the principal ideas and the principal objectives of what we're trying to do at the Arlington Institute.
	And that's why I'm happy to contribute to your AI program, because I don't think you get to this new world Without co-opting the technology and being able to use it, because the metabolism of the larger environment is going to be moving so fast, and if you aren't moving fast but in a different direction, you're not going to make it.
	I love what you're saying here, and it reminds me, too, because I don't know if you know John Bush, but John Bush, his whole philosophy, and I've spoken at his events, is exit and build.
	He agrees, like, don't fight the system.
	He's like, leave it behind.
	Exit that system, decentralize your life, and then build your future in community.
	You know, it's the classic Bucky Fuller quote that says, you know, don't attack the old reality, go build a new one.
	That makes the old one obsolete.
	Well, and that's happening.
	The IRS loss of revenues is showing the obsoletion of that old system of, hey, let's print money and then extract productivity from the people that we enslave with obedience demands.
	The people are saying, I think we've had enough of that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	And it only gets worse faster.
	So, do you agree with Martin Armstrong's timeline estimates?
	A couple of years here?
	Yeah, I do.
	And I just do that because...
	And I say that because he's got a track record.
	He's got...
	Listen, in my business of trying to think about the future, you can wave your hands and read books and say, this is what I think and all this kind of stuff.
	And that is qualitatively different than going to a guy like Martin Armstrong who's got a...
	Who has built from the bottom up a model that describes a significant amount of granularity, how this whole thing works, that you can then, and you know that it's been right for 40 years, so that you can run it in the future.
	So you've got to think about that.
	And it's the same thing with Cliff High, because, you know, he's...
	There's a lot more interpretation in terms of Cliff's work because he's trying to look at these terms and these words like corona and try to decide what it's about.
	But you can get a lot more descriptive aspect of a thing from Cliff.
	And he also has, I don't know, 70% accuracy rate.
	And if you're looking into a big dark room and there's no light and somebody can tell you 70% likely that it's going to be in there, Yeah, for sure.
	So, but how does this relate to the current drone activity exactly?
	Well, the drones, it's an op, first of all.
	It's just obvious from the day it going, because otherwise the government would be going nuts.
	Yeah.
	And they're not.
	And so...
	I love their explanation.
	We don't know what's flying over our military bases.
	We have no idea.
	Really?
	I know.
	Come on.
	And so my guess is that it has something to do with what's now coming out that says that there's some loose nuke around somewhere from Ukraine, and they're trying to find it.
	I don't know, but there's a whole bunch of them because they're not uniform.
	I mean, there's some of them that they talk about being the size of an SUV, but then they have navigation lights on them.
	I mean, I've looked at the pictures and you hear all these people going, wow, wow, wow, well, it's going to have the lights on it.
	Like FAA required lights.
	Yeah, right, right.
	I'm a pilot, too.
	I'm like, these...
	Yeah.
	This shows you the direction.
	And other ones, you hear them and they're going...
	I say, well, those are propellers.
	Right.
	But there are a lot of really qualified pilots who have also observed these drones and say those are not helicopters.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, there's some that aren't.
	I mean, they park them all night long over the top of Brooklyn.
	And then, yeah.
	And people all come up and...
	Yeah.
	There's some...
	But then, of course...
	Neither you nor I know really what kind of technology that the U.S. has got.
	But let me throw this at you because what's weird to me about this is that I remembered that there were drones, very suspicious drones, flying over the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson three years ago, 2021. I remember covering it then and the Tucson Police Department had a helicopter that tried to chase these drones And the drones outmaneuvered, outflew.
	So I went back and checked the stories on that from a site called The War Zone.
	They cover military technology.
	And I found the story, and sure enough, these drones had no radar signature.
	You better think about that.
	That's huge.
	And then they said, this is exactly like the drone incidents five years earlier.
	So now we're talking like 2016. There were also reports, and then the F-35 pilots that are training in Arizona, because that's where they have the Air Force training grounds, they have filed numerous FAA reports of Also, evasive drone swarms that are able to fly at.75 Mach.
	Wow.
	So that's 560 miles an hour.
	And I'm thinking, wait, wow.
	So those aren't quadcopter drones.
	No.
	Like something else is up there.
	I'm telling you, if you've got quadcopters, they've got stuff...
	You know, it's 50 to 70 years before this stuff comes out from under the black programs.
	And so what they've got going and the way they figured it, none of us know.
	So do you suppose, and I'm not trying to nail you down on this because we don't have a lot of data points, but is it possible that this is some exotic technology that's been developed by secret programs that they're testing or trying to use as part of a PSYOP? Well, of course.
	I mean, it's in its own way not much different than what happened when the Russians brought this hypersonic missile, this intermediate-range missile.
	The Oresnik.
	Yeah, that thing down there.
	Why did they do that?
	Because they're trying to show people.
	Yeah.
	And they're trying to send messages.
	And our government does the same thing.
	And so there's...
	It's also a function of, to some extent, of external kind of pressure and timeliness and the whole UFO disclosure thing, I would say, is, you know, it's kind of being squeezed and pushed and guys like Greer and other folks have been in their hair for so long that it's kind of, you know, they can't say nothing.
	Greer doesn't let up.
	Well, Greer doesn't let up.
	You know, I really wonder whether the whole...
	Business about the government.
	I know a lot of those guys.
	Can you get closer to the mic?
	I know a lot of those guys that were associated with that supposed UFO program inside the government.
	I'm not talking about any specific individuals, but the government never plays straight.
	No, they're always lying or whatever.
	And they'll tell you this, you know, limited hangout thing.
	They'll tell you this amount just to try to make you think you got to do it.
	And so there is stuff going on here that we don't understand.
	I like that phrase, limited hangout, which has only recently entered the vernacular.
	But I just want you to know here, this is an unlimited hangout.
	So you can let it all hang out here, anything you want.
	But you mentioned the Oreshnik weapons system demonstration.
	But I do want to point out that Russia demonstrated that weapons system on its strategic enemy, whereas the U.S. government is demonstrating its weapons on us.
	I know.
	So it's like, wait a second.
	We are the enemy in their minds, aren't we?
	Well, government always kind of thinks in those kind of terms.
	You know, the people out there are subservient, subordinate to the government.
	They're afraid of the people.
	Well, they're not afraid as they should be.
	Yeah.
	You know, if we build ourselves a new country or something, what you want to do is build into the fabric and the structure of the thing where the government is afraid of the people.
	Absolutely.
	And then you make sure that the people are all educated and that they have access to information so they can make intelligent decisions and everything so that you've got some parity and some balance in the system.
	But this all needs to change.
	When the government fears the people, you have liberty.
	When the people fear the government, you have tyranny, right?
	You've seen that.
	I've not heard it, but I can understand.
	Yeah, I think it's a common meme, or I don't know who said that first.
	But let's go back to the idea of disclosure.
	Mm-hmm.
	You already mentioned that according to Greer, perhaps a lot of officials would start to come out and spill the beans on certain things, like imminently, in the next few months, I think is what you said.
	I'm sure you have thought about the cultural, the economic, and the geopolitical implications of such a widespread acknowledgement.
	Oh, yeah.
	Can you speak to some of that?
	Absolutely.
	Probably we've...
	In our own limited way, probably done more in that space than any other kind of think tank thing.
	It became clear to me really early on.
	I wrote a little book called Out of the Blue Wild Cards and Other Big Future Surprises.
	And it was an attempt to kind of systematically look across all the potential big surprise events that could happen.
	And to try to kind of categorize and characterize them such that, and in particular I was interested in if you could get big change that was benign and that wasn't scary or bloody or some other kind of stuff because it's pretty obvious that you can get big change that way.
	Just ask Joseph Stalin.
	And so I started with about 150 or 80 different scenarios and kind of wintered it down to about 85. And of those 85, there were only two scenarios that were, if you will, kind of benign.
	Out of 85, there are only two.
	Yeah, that I could think of.
	Less than 2%.
	One of them was the Messiah Returns, and the other one was the ET shows up.
	Okay, well, more than 2%, excuse me, but that's still a small number.
	But, okay, if the Messiah shows up, but that reminds me of Project Blue Beam, the fake Messiah, right?
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	How do you know the difference between the two of them?
	I don't know.
	You know, they could be.
	But in any case, The idea that we're not alone and that we have a formal kind of engagement and communications with a group of people, if you will, who have been around half a million or a million years longer than that, it just pulls the threads out of all aspects of the fabric that supports human activity.
	It is the biggest thing, and there aren't very many people.
	I'm about the only one that I know of in this futures business that have been interested in this because they kind of all, you know, poo-poo it and discount it.
	But when you look at that, what you see is that our ideas about science, our ideas about history, our ideas about religion, our ideas about you just walk your way down.
	All of the things that, if you will, the fabric that supports human stuff, it all is threatened.
	And so this is a really big thing.
	This is an epic old kind of period of time to where you suddenly, what it does in the essence, it changes your own personal perspective, expanded awareness about who you are, and expanded awareness about the larger context and environment we are.
	And so it's just huge.
	But you say benign as in it doesn't require a mass die-off, but there would certainly be economic shockwaves and cultural shockwaves.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	But I mean, it's not like blowing up the world or something.
	Yeah, true.
	But how would that...
	What kind of possible scenario would that look like?
	Like some...
	It'll look like what we're looking at right now, is that they bleed it in.
	They realize that if they shock the system too much, then it's counterproductive.
	And so you start to expose and more and familiarize and put the ideas into the films so that people are ready.
	Ready to hear that not only are we not alone, but maybe some of the other things like this other civilization shows up, says, hey, we've been here a million years.
	Charles Darwin was wrong.
	You didn't evolve from bacteria.
	We put you here.
	We've been watching you.
	You screwed it all up.
	Now we're here to set you on a better path.
	Something like that?
	Well, yeah, but I presume that they don't say you screwed it all up because they're not going to come and play if we haven't gotten to a certain level of readiness or receptivity that they believe that they can then help kind of keep the whole thing going.
	I mean, this is really about rising to a level of consciousness, it seems to me, however you kind of want to describe that in whatever context, but it's this broader kind of notion about, like I say, who you are and how the larger reality works.
	But what you're saying earlier about rising consciousness doesn't seem to be anything that humanity has actually achieved.
	It's just that our solar system is moving into...
	No, it's not humanity.
	You're right.
	Individuals, I'm telling you.
	Is there any merit in humans earning the right to...
	To know about the bigger picture.
	Well, sure.
	But it works, like I said.
	You get these little kind of places, different locations throughout the system that come up with these new ideas or new capabilities and other kinds of stuff.
	And then you start to get an aggregation, accretion of like-minded people around the things.
	And that's happening all over the place.
	Yeah.
	There are people that are having variations of this conversation.
	Maybe not quite as interesting, but, you know, all over the world.
	Because this is an unlimited hangout.
	Yeah, all over the world.
	I mean.
	Well, now, Stephen Greer, I think he typically believes that the aliens are always friendly.
	What if they're not?
	What if they show up and say, well, we want your planet, we love your water, your resources, and your position relative to the sun, and we just want to get rid of all of you?
	Well, that's a legitimate and interesting point, because Greg Braden and I taped a session, like I told you, every two weeks we have a thing that I call, What's Up?
	And I just say, Greg, what's up?
	And it's unstructured.
	In the middle of our discussion, he says, you know, if you look at everything that's happening on the planet, you can keep going down and looking at everyone and it says, that doesn't benefit humanity, that doesn't benefit humanity, that doesn't benefit humanity.
	So who does it benefit if it doesn't benefit humanity?
	Well, it benefits certain people.
	Well, some of this stuff is, yeah, you might make the case there, but writ large, you could look at it and say, maybe it benefits some other group that is other dimensional or off the planet or some other kind of thing.
	Do you know Penny Kelly?
	Do you know that name?
	Don't.
	No, she's a psychic and she does a lot of work with us.
	Well, Penny says that she's from somewhere else and that she remembers coming from somewhere else and her job is to help facilitate all this change.
	Well, she looks at what's going on down here and she says, this is a takeover attempt.
	This is a classic attempt from an outside force to try to, over time, Kind of condition all of the space and get everybody to the place into where it's an easy kind of takeover because they've put crap in the water and they put it in the air and they put it in the food and they put it in everything like that.
	So all you want to do is watch television and drink beer, you know?
	And if...
	So...
	And this is really quite important because all of the very interesting things that we've discussed so far Could be diversionary.
	If, in fact, there's a larger agenda that's happening, if, in fact, that this is a really big off-planet effort to try to capture and take over this planet and humanity.
	I mean, it's a...
	It's a Matrix movie kind of notion that says, you know, you can plug everybody, put them all in canisters and plug them up and use them for energy or whatever it might be.
	If that might be possible, then...
	How would you do that?
	You'd do the magician thing, and you'd say, look at this, look at the politics, and look at this, and look at the energy and stuff.
	And back here, you're doing this big takeover until it gets to the place where it's too late.
	And that's where I get to the two years.
	But Penny and Greg and I all have come to the conclusion it's about two years, and then it's too late.
	Okay, so along those lines, that reminds me of this really important point.
	I like your reaction to this.
	I began to notice years ago that the carbon sequestration programs were a form of terraforming.
	So carbon dioxide in our atmosphere is obviously critical for all plant life.
	It's critical for ocean life.
	It's critical for crop production, pollinators.
	Flowers and rainforests, they all depend on carbon dioxide, right?
	And the current level of 409 ppm or whatever is very low historically compared to where it has been.
	So then when I see the powers that be pushing the climate agenda and then actually using eminent domain to seize farmland across America to build giant freaking sci-fi machines that are sucking CO2 out of the atmosphere, putting it in pipelines to bury it underground.
	I start to think...
	This is a planetary-scale operation.
	Yes, sir.
	I mean, it's affecting the whole atmosphere.
	If they scale this thing, and they earn carbon credits for doing that, if they scale this, they kill the planet.
	Well, of course.
	That's the position that Greg comes to.
	He says he was working with the UN group and these UN objectives, and they want to get the amount of carbon, the...
	In the atmosphere down to, what, 218 parts per million or something like that?
	We would starve to death.
	Of course, yeah.
	That's his point exactly.
	So, to his point, who does that benefit?
	I mean, that certainly doesn't benefit humanity.
	Why are they...
	No, it does not benefit humanity.
	But it sure gives them a big supply of carbon dioxide to fly to Mars and create an atmosphere on Mars.
	I've never heard of that before.
	I mean, Elon Musk, heavy lift.
	Is that what he wants to do?
	I'm just guessing.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I'm thinking about this stuff.
	I don't know.
	But Mars needs an atmosphere if they're going to colonize it, right?
	Well, why do you want to take carbon dioxide there?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think you have to deliver it there.
	I don't think you can make it, because I don't think the chemistry of what's available...
	I'm just thinking out loud here, too.
	But I also was thinking, and by the way, I don't advocate any kind of vigilante violence or anything like that, but I was just thinking as a sci-fi movie script, like, in the near future, humanity's starving to death, but resistance fighters, they sneak up on the carbon sequestration machines and blow them up with high explosives to save humanity.
	That would be a movie.
	Sure.
	And then they could breathe again.
	We could just call the movie...
	Breathe again.
	For all the trees.
	That would be good.
	How come the green movement doesn't believe in carbon dioxide that makes things green?
	Because they're not green.
	Because they're not who they say they are.
	They're all...
	They're all functionaries of this, you know, carbon credits.
	I mean, all this is just make money.
	It's crazy.
	Make money at the expense of, like, grasslands.
	No, so it drives you back and say, so who does this benefit?
	I don't know how it benefits a small number of people if you destroy all the food.
	I mean, how does that work?
	Yeah, I mean, everybody has to breathe and eat, right?
	Yeah, right.
	I don't know.
	So I don't know.
	Maybe it's bigger than that.
	And we need to start at least thinking about it, even if it was a sci-fi movie.
	It ought to be a good one that was provocative and generated the ideas and allowed people to start to think in those kinds of terms.
	I think when the AI engines are able to render full-length feature films, I'll do a film.
	I'll describe the screenplay to the AI engine and let it just render the whole film.
	Right?
	Because we're close to that.
	Yes.
	That'd be a fun project.
	Okay, I'd like to play with you on that one.
	Yeah, we could do that.
	AI engines are building songs with vocals that sound human.
	Oh, I know.
	So let me tell you.
	One of the things that we need going forward into this new space is we need our own media.
	Not just this kind of talk.
	We need feature films.
	We need television.
	We need that are built around these new ideas.
	100%, yeah.
	Because otherwise people can't visualize them and contextualize them and don't have the attention span to kind of, you know.
	But we're at an extraordinary time when that really needs to happen.
	Well, I'm so grateful to be able to speak with you about all of this.
	It's very rare that I can even have conversations like this with people, because I feel like a lot of humanity is being left behind.
	Oh, it is.
	And I don't mean that in like a biblical rapture way.
	I mean, they're becoming obsolete because they're not keeping up with what's happening.
	Let's just take computer coding, for example.
	Now, GitHub is the place, it's the code repository where all the programmers put their code.
	If you go through GitHub now and you do an aggregate analysis, 80% of the code there is written by machines.
	Right.
	Not humans.
	I know.
	80%.
	So...
	IBM has laid off something like almost 70% of their programmers because they can generate it all with machines.
	Well, I'm working with one programmer in particular who says that...
	It's interesting.
	He says that the AI engines makes him five times faster.
	Oh, no.
	I've got guys who'll tell you a hundred times faster.
	Well...
	But even 500% enhancement is pretty amazing.
	Yes.
	But it still takes the human mind currently to describe the project.
	Of course.
	Prompt engineering.
	Prompt engineering and your goal-oriented behavior outcomes, right?
	That's why I want to prompt engineer.
	I need to find a good prompt engineer.
	Well, we're pretty good at prompt engineering.
	But then we should talk, because one of the projects that we've got at the Arlington Institute is called TransitionNet.
	Yeah.
	And the objective is to build a global collaboration platform designed specifically so that millions of people can all contribute in a curated way to building a model of a new world.
	Whoa.
	Yeah.
	Not at all ambitious.
	No, it's a big idea, but you couldn't have done it effectively 10 years ago, and you can now with AI. Right.
	And you can set it up the model, the way we've got it kind of structured is you've got different chapters around so that you build local community, but then they all work on an organized way around an emergent new model of what a new world could look like, and then everybody gets a chance to kind of vote on it and look at it and tune it.
	So then what I suggest is, and I can tell you a couple companies off camera, but you need open source language model powered AI agents to moderate the processes of this.
	Because you don't want to pay a human being to handle all the questions.
	No, you're right.
	So you need automation of that process.
	But it has to be trained on human decision making.
	Principles and values.
	Let me share this with you.
	Today's best off-the-shelf open source models are exceeding the scores of open AI from 18 months ago.
	Think about that.
	So the decentralization of capabilities and knowledge The gap between open source versus big mega corporations, that gap is collapsing to the point where probably in the next 12 months, what you can run on your desktop will be equivalent to what ChatGPT can give you.
	On the way to Kurzweil land.
	Well, I'm never merging with the machines, I'll tell you that.
	But the singularity...
	I mean, the models are doing reasoning.
	They're doing reasoning.
	They're...
	You used to be able to trip up the models with questions about gravity and things like that.
	Not so much.
	The new models can nail it.
	It's not just word prediction anymore.
	It's reasoning.
	Is that right?
	Yes.
	They have very complex, layered reasoning.
	There are new reasoning models that literally go step by step and relate their own logic steps to arrive at a conclusion.
	Yeah.
	And that's available open source.
	Well, I'll just say it again, is that you can't get into a new world and you can't get there in time unless you start to co-opt and use this and make it our own.
	And that's what's so important about what you're trying to do and why we're happy to be a part of it.
	Well, John, I just want to thank you for this contribution to human knowledge.
	We'll put it to good use, and we'll have this model released early next year.
	And in the meantime, how can people follow your work, give out your website again?
	Yeah.
	Well, we're located at arlingtoninstitute.org, and we've got a lot of stuff.
	Everything that we do at the Arlington Institute is about facilitating the transition to a new world.
	Ah.
	Okay?
	And so we've got a variety of different kind of programs.
	I've got a newsletter that I've been publishing for 35 years, and we send it all over the world about the future and emergent kind of things.
	And we've got these transition talks, this program.
	You know, Greg will be back with us.
	Greg Braden will be back with us in May, I think it is.
	Dave Martin will be with us in April.
	He comes every year.
	He used to be on my board a long time ago.
	So we all have very provocative, interesting people who come and we live stream that as well as we operate.
	We're located in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia, which is a little resort town that's about 100 miles from Washington and Baltimore in the Appalachian Mountains in West Virginia.
	You're just outside of the blast zone.
	You're right.
	I know what you're up to.
	Two mountain ranges in from the coast.
	It's a marvelous little place.
	We have a wonderful time once a month.
	We have dinners and all kinds of things that are part of the program with the presentation.
	We have that called Transition Talks.
	You can find that at transitiontalks.org.
	And then we've got a variety of other kind of things.
	How are you funded?
	Is there a subscription?
	Yes, we have a membership, and so you can become a premium member, and you should look into that because there's a variety of kind of advantages to that.
	And then people can't pay to come to our programs, and that keeps us going.
	Wow.
	Well, that's amazing.
	And I really love what you're doing.
	I want to support your institute.
	And I would only ask that ping me more often about your events, your interviews, so that we can help share them with people.
	Thank you.
	And I think also, ultimately, what would make a lot of sense is to take every video that you've done and let's transcribe it.
	Okay.
	And we do have some, you know, I mentioned we're pretty good at prompt engineering, so we have perfected some prompts that can convert spoken word into equivalent academic writing.
	Hmm.
	And I trained it on Alex Jones.
	So I can take Alex Jones' speeches and turn them into a white paper that sounds like it's written by a university PhD.
	So that's a pretty good prompt.
	Take out the style issue.
	We've gone through many iterations.
	But we can take your spoken word, we can convert it.
	Although I normally don't like to train models on spoken word, not even my own spoken word.
	But in your case, I think We have software that will convert it.
	That's amazing.
	I'm so glad to connect with you on this.
	Hey, I feel like as long as people like you exist and people like us and what we're doing, maybe humanity does have a chance.
	Absolutely.
	Sometimes I get a little blackpilled about the human race, you know?
	Easy to do.
	Yeah, but you give me hope, John.
	Thank you.
	Nice to be with you.
	Thanks for doing this.
	Thank you, and thanks for joining me today.
	Alright everybody, John Peterson there from the Arlington Institute, so be sure to visit his website, check out what he's got to offer, and hey, share this interview.
	This is a big, eye-opening interview.
	I hope you agree.
	We've covered a lot of major topics here, and your future is not going to resemble your past.
	My advice is expand your understanding now so it's not such a shock to your system when really big things begin to happen.
	The great reveal is coming, no question about it.
	So I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton.com, free speech network here.
	You can post videos on Brighton if you wish, but don't forget.
	Brighteon.ai is where we're going to be releasing for free the AI language model that uses this data right here that John was kind enough to offer to us.
	And that will be released as an open-source, downloadable LLM that will run on your desktop systems.
	And that's coming out March 1st or sooner, and the codename is Enoch.
	So look for that.
	It's one of our contributions to humanity to help preserve and decentralize human knowledge.
	Again, I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for listening today.
	Take care.
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	Alright, coming up next is the interview with John Roy from Dawson Knives.
	And we've got some really exciting machete designs to share with you and a new hatchet design also with...
	Incredible alloy steel.
	It's actually, it's called MagnaCut.
	It's an amazing innovation that's now being embraced by almost all the major knife companies are moving into this, but they don't know the secret heat treating method that Dawson uses that gives it incredible strength and flexibility to prevent it from shattering, you know?
	Well, there's also a little bit of alarming news on the horizon.
	It could be that the supply of MagnaCut may be disrupted.
	So John will tell you all about that in this interview.
	And you'll also learn about all the amazing uses of these knives, which are built as rugged lifetime utility tools.
	These are not movie props.
	They are not toys.
	They will last you a lifetime.
	They will last generations in your family, actually, if you hand it down.
	It's a once-in-a-lifetime purchase, and that's a good thing because they're very expensive.
	It's like, I think I can only afford once-in-a-lifetime.
	Well, that's what happens when you want to buy the world's most advanced corrosion-resistant steel made in America with incredible construction and designs.
	I'm the co-designer of these, so Yeah, you buy one, it's good for life, okay?
	So check it out.
	Here's the interview with John Roy, a third-generation knife maker, a master knife maker in America, located in Arizona, actually, becoming really a legendary operation in this country.
	We're thrilled to be able to partner with them.
	Enjoy the interview, and I'll have more updates for you tomorrow.
	Take care.
	Alright, welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and I am the co-designer of these incredible new knives, and machetes in this case, co-designed with Dawson Knives.
	We're joined today by John Roy from Dawson Knives, third generation knife maker based out of Arizona using American-made Magna Cut steel.
	They also have CPM3V steel revolutionary.
	We've got these products available now probably for a very limited time.
	Welcome, John, to the show today.
	It's great to have you on.
	I love, I'm just such a fan of what your family is able to produce.
	It's amazing.
	I'm just so happy to be on here, Mike.
	And it's been pretty amazing, the knives and the machetes and now a hatchet that we've been able to co-design together and produce in order to help people have a tool that's not only functional but will last forever and is sourced and American-made.
	It's really incredible.
	Folks, this isn't just going to be an infomercial, although I am going to plug the knives on our store, and thank you for your support.
	Honestly, you cannot find anything else like this in the world.
	Go to healthrangerstore.com slash knives, plural.
	K-N-I-V-E-S. Healthrangerstore.com slash knives, and it'll bring these up.
	We've got the outfitter here, which John will describe what this is all about.
	And then...
	John, the Outfitter Pro.
	I mean, it just gives me a feeling of great happiness to pull that out of the sheath.
	This is a tool for survival, for rural living, for gardening, for outrigging.
	Tell us, John, about this design and what makes it special in terms of materials and composition and construction.
	Yeah, so that particular design, you know, you and I started a year ago before we actually released this, and we started working through the shape and the dynamics.
	So a couple of things.
	First, it's made out of CPM MagnaCut steel.
	So that is made in America.
	It's a powder metal.
	It's very unique because unlike most steels that are made today, this particular steel has a chemical composition That allows it to be as easy to sharpen as a high carbon tool steel, but holds an edge like a stainless steel and can still resist about 30 days of salt water.
	So this new steel is very sought for in the aerospace industry.
	We actually compete against it, but we're just the little guys.
	But to get this steel takes a lot and then to heat treat it.
	So we actually do a differential heat treat.
	So we have a stronger edge and then we get some flex off the back.
	So that's our own proprietary heat treat that we do using ancient Japanese techniques and ancient old world techniques to work on these modern steels.
	Wait a second, John.
	What you're describing here, in the whole history of knife making for centuries, the properties that you just described would have been considered impossible.
	There's always a trade-off.
	I mean, you're talking about corrosion resistance holds an edge.
	It's also flexible.
	It's got high rockwell hardness.
	It's extremely durable, and it flexes, which, of course, prevents the shattering.
	Like, honestly, five years ago, if somebody heard that, they would say you're making it up.
	That's not possible.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And, you know, there's a lot that has changed in the last four years.
	And first, the steel coming out, this MagnaCut, invented by my good friend, Laren Thomas.
	We knew them.
	We went to all the knife shows.
	He's actually here in Arizona.
	What makes it so awesome is that by doing this new type of steel, it's a whole different take on how to put the molecules and your alloys together in order to form a steel that is super stainless without a lot of chromium.
	So that way you get a razor sharp edge, you can sharpen it out in the field, but then it's still super stain resistant.
	Now on top of that...
	And by stain resistant, I'm sorry, but you mean oxidation resistant.
	That's correct.
	Yes.
	That's right.
	Right, so if you just leave this, like if I leave it in my ranch vehicle, like my side-by-side ranch vehicle, right, which I'm guilty of doing with various tools, and usually they just rust, man, but yours don't rust.
	What?
	Yeah, we all are, and you're right, you know?
	Yeah, these do not rust.
	I mean, I'm not saying they're 100% rust proof, but they're highly, highly corrosion or oxidation resistant, which really matters.
	I mean, you're living in Arizona, not as big a problem there as in Texas or East Texas, where humidity is more of an issue, for sure.
	Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
	You know, these knives are very rust resistant.
	There's nothing rust proof.
	I mean, anything can rust in the right conditions.
	But these knives are very rust resistant and still getting a high Rockwell C. So that means a hard edge.
	That means you don't have to resharpen it as much.
	But the flex, that's really important.
	And that's coming from a proprietary heat treat.
	You know, our family, three generation, we're Bible-believing Christians.
	You know, we pray.
	And that was one of the things with this heat treat.
	We failed 20 times.
	I mean, we tried.
	I mean, it's something totally different.
	We prayed about it, and the Lord led us to this way of heat treating the steel, which is very different, very unique, that ties in old and new world technologies together.
	And, you know, it's what we call good old American ingenuity.
	Yeah, true.
	Well, I love...
	See, you've taken the best metal alloy that's possible here, and then you've combined it with a G10 handle with a unique pattern, a grip pattern.
	So this is a lifetime tool, right?
	I mean, this will last a lifetime.
	And it has specific features that you and I worked on.
	For example, I really like the serrations here for the thumb, so your thumb doesn't slip.
	I like the extended finger guard here.
	That's one of...
	I mean, you and I both agree that's really important when you're thrusting or hacking.
	And then you have a hole here, and also on the end here.
	So this can be affixed if necessary, or it can be attached or carried in different ways.
	And obviously it's full tank construction with, I don't know, not rivets, but What do you call these?
	The two-sided screws that mount the handle?
	that come into that yeah so so those are special screws that come in there and that way they're uh allen wrench so it's easy to tie down they're coming from both ways all stainless steel and that way it gives a very good mechanical bond for the handle to the blade you know You know, the cool thing about this whole design of the Outfitter and the Outfitter Extreme is that when we worked together, we actually looked at a lot of hard-use knives out in the field.
	And then we looked at, I went to a lot of cutting competitions and seen these guys that are hacking 2x4s, these guys that are cutting balls, lots of rope.
	So this is what we call a super-performance knife.
	It is built in that Frame of a super competition blade that can do all those chores.
	But then in a survival sense, we did a lot of testing.
	So the blade is actually balanced.
	So we did a lighter weight.
	So we can carry on your backpack with the new rigging sheet that allows you to put any type of rigging that you want.
	And it's got a nice lock and pop to it.
	So that way you can carry in your backpack and carry upside down if you wanted to.
	Here it is.
	Let me show the sheath.
	Yes.
	And it's customizable.
	You can change how tight it is.
	And this is a semi-flexible carbon fiber.
	Yeah, carbon fiber kydex.
	So that way you can still heat it and mold it, but it's more heat resistant.
	And the great thing about that sheath is that you can take it on the elements.
	It's not going to mess up.
	You've got a drain hole in there, so you can blow it out, wash it out.
	This thing is made to be used for any type of situation.
	We built this blade to outlive its user.
	And it has it back to be passed down by generations.
	This is a real high-performance blade.
	And those two holes, the one you have in front of the guard, And the one that you have in the back allows a langer tie down.
	So that way you can really strap it down.
	You can tie it to your hand and you get positive motion to it.
	Everything about it is balanced and weighted because I do a lot of backpacking.
	I do a lot of hiking.
	I also do a lot of hunting and we'll talk about that later.
	But this particular blade is not to wear you down.
	It's to give you a lot of blade.
	For a lot less weight, but a lot of strength in it.
	And that's why we chose the steel.
	Alright, so let me show people the options here.
	So there's the outfitter machete here on top.
	Yes.
	And what's the blade length and overall length of this?
	So that one's more like a buoy size.
	So if I'm going backpacking, that one works really well.
	I really like it.
	I could do all my camp chores.
	I can get firewood.
	It's good for batoning and splitting.
	Also, I mean, in a pinch, I mean, not ideal, but I mean, it does actually do camp food prep really well.
	We just went hunting recently and I took one of those and it did some really good food prep.
	It was a great little like chef's knife for that.
	Yeah, what's interesting is it's mostly flat.
	So you can use a large part of it here as a chef's knife, and then it's curved on the end, which I like that.
	That also has, in a pinch, some game use as well as self-defense use, right?
	But it's also got enough of a thickness and heft for batoning, like you said.
	It's not lightweight, it's not flimsy, and it's not a $20 cheapo knife either.
	Yeah.
	No, absolutely not.
	And, you know, this is so unique that even on our side, we don't have anything like this.
	So this is a collaboration that's just between you and me to really make a super high-performance blade that is an awesome machete.
	And then we put it into two sizes.
	The cool thing about that, that higher grind, we actually did something different.
	So we do a very slight hollow grind.
	And by using a bigger wheel, So we put on a larger wheel on there between 14 and 16 inch wheel.
	By getting that circumference right there we can get a slight hollow grind so you get a really razor sharp edge but you get a lot of meat behind it and it's a lot easier to resharpen.
	We're not here to make axes.
	We're here to make knives that can be an axe that can also be a knife.
	So it actually goes from Food prep all the way to batoning wood, so that way you can survive off the night instead of just being one side or the other.
	It's very unique in that.
	I love how you describe that.
	It's a multi-purpose utility and survival tool.
	Absolutely.
	It's a once-in-a-lifetime purchase.
	Now, this is the larger version.
	This is the Xtreme Outfitter Pro.
	Now, what's the blade length on this?
	I forgot the exact spec.
	So on that particular one right there, you're looking at about 14 inches of blade.
	Okay.
	So in the ballpark of that, which makes it a real machete.
	This thing is a clear brush.
	And out here in Arizona, we have some tough brush.
	We got a lot of shrub oak, chaparral.
	You know, we deal with some forest, you know, but a lot of this brush is just gnarly.
	Well, I've used it on bamboo here in Texas.
	We have kind of smaller diameter bamboo that likes to grow in Texas, and it just goes at them.
	Or wild grape vines, if you're trying to clear wild grape vines, they're especially tricky because they like to flex, and they don't stand still, you know, because they're hanging out of the trees.
	So this goes right through them.
	Trust me.
	Well, see, and that's important.
	People don't realize about bamboo.
	I used to live in Houston, and we had bamboo down there.
	And the thing about bamboo is just like you're cutting, you know...
	Like a hard wood, almost.
	Yeah, like a hard wood.
	It's almost like bone shape.
	It's like out here, we have cactus that are very similar to that.
	And it's very tough.
	Yeah.
	And very hard to cut through.
	And so that's very impressive right there, Mike.
	Yeah, it goes right through the bamboo.
	That was my first test, actually, is to just take it at an angle, just like hack at an angle, and boom, just clean right through multiple bamboo stalks or whatever they're called.
	So...
	These are, again, available right now, healthrangerstore.com slash knives.
	And, John, I have to thank you and your family for working with us to put this together.
	This has been over a year in the making.
	I mean, you and I started talking about this in, I don't know, third quarter 2023, I think?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was a project that we both agreed on and we wanted to do something different.
	So what you have right here is a limited run.
	So this is a limited run of machetes and hatchets.
	And for a lot of reasons, and we'll talk some more about that later.
	But this particular, we wanted to build something that you could survive on and really pushing the envelope of the knife making world and of our own abilities.
	To be able to produce something that you can live off of, that you can survive off of in any situation.
	It's a self-defense tool if needed to be, but you can build a shelter.
	You can chop wood.
	You can prep food.
	You can do all this.
	If you order before December 22nd, I'm sorry to interrupt, but people want to know, can they get these before Christmas?
	In the USA... Continental, you know, 48 states, if you order by December 22nd, you can get it before Christmas.
	Yes.
	That's what I've been told by our fulfillment.
	And that's amazing.
	That's amazing.
	There's not very many of them left, so people should go on, get these, because once they're gone, they're gone.
	True.
	We were just talking about in the knife world, there's been some crazy news going on here and there, and we just got a notice from our steel.
	Tell us about the steel, yeah.
	Yeah, so our steel...
	So the smelter up there in New York told us that the people that provide the chemical composition for MagnaCut and a lot of these CPM crucible steel.
	So CPM means crucible powder metal.
	And what's happening is that they just gave a 90 day warning warning notice and saying that they will have to shut their doors in 90 days because of economic reasons.
	And we may lose one of the oldest steel mills here that used to produce these amazing powder metals been around since 1907. Well, that sounds like an emergency.
	I mean, we cannot lose steel infrastructure in this country.
	We've already lost too much other infrastructure providers, and we don't mine many rare earth minerals here in the U.S. either.
	We still rely on China for a lot of that.
	We need to save our steel industry, and I'm particularly concerned if they have interruptions in business or stop functioning, how are you going to get MagnaCut?
	Well, that's a great question because when you look at the steel industry, I mean, what's really hurting it and how is that going to hamper our ability to get Magnica?
	First, just stupid regulation.
	There's so many stupid regulations in the steel industry that's made to drive it out of business.
	We've had to deal with this a lot.
	We've worked with these companies since 1973. We've been with Crucible Steel.
	You know, once you lose this American-made steel, you really lose the heart of America.
	And, you know, steel drives everything here.
	And so, as far as getting MagnaCut, there's another one more American-made steel company.
	They mainly do, like, building steel.
	But they do have some lines of tool steel, and they're looking to possibly pick up maybe MagnaCut, but only a few of these compositions and start producing it for our industry.
	So that's why I suggest if you see these steels, buy it, because you may not get another chance.
	It's one of the greatest American steel inventions.
	It came out in 2021, and we're hoping that it doesn't go by the wayside.
	But, you know, Carpenter Steel will probably pick it up.
	We're hoping.
	That's the hope.
	But, you know, people need to stand up, and that's why I'm so glad that we have Trump in office, and we're starting to see this deregulation, hopefully.
	The regulations are hurting all of us.
	Basically, the regulators are weaponized against American businesses.
	I mean, that's just the honest assessment of what it is.
	But isn't it true that many other knife makers are beginning to adopt MagnaCut, and yet they don't have your heat treat method, which you told us the story before.
	So just MagnaCut is not always the same because the heat treatment matters.
	But aren't more companies picking it up because of its amazing characteristics?
	I would say that everybody's picking it up.
	It used to be an anomaly.
	Nobody wanted to mess with it or test it.
	We were one of the first ones to jump into MagnaCut.
	It was very difficult.
	It was unknown.
	Because of what we've been able to do in MagnaCut and what we have shown the world, now everybody's jumping into MagnaCut.
	Now we have a lot of hype behind it.
	But the issue is, is that everyone's just following the same heat treat methods.
	In fact, a lot of people are outsourcing to the same company for heat treat.
	So you may buy a Benchmade that's MagnaCut or MKC or some of these others, but they're all heat treated at the same place.
	Oh, really?
	And you're just hitting the same blade.
	Oh, yeah.
	Now, hardly anybody nowadays does it in-house.
	Nobody wants to mess with it.
	Nobody wants to do that.
	We like to do it because, by golly, we want to push the envelope.
	And because of our Christian roots, we have a sign up there that says, whatever you do, do it for the glory of Of God.
	And that's what we try and do.
	And we want to push it, give the best product we can.
	And the prices that you see right there you have on the website is a steal.
	Honestly, for what it costs to get the MagnaCut and prices are going up because of this new scare, it gives you the best that you can get.
	Yeah, so I'm glad you pointed that out.
	Here, healthrangerstore.com slash knives, you can see the extreme machete.
	It's a $1,000 blade, right?
	And even the Patriot hatchet, which I don't have here on my desk, but it's the same style of construction you and I collaborated on, especially on the length.
	I wanted that extra length on the handle because the way I use it, I need a lot more leverage.
	I'm like...
	When I'm really going at something with a hatchet, I need that extra pivot point to get...
	I'm whipping it at the wood or whatever I'm cutting.
	I appreciate you doing that.
	It didn't add much weight to it.
	I think you nailed the shape of the blade of that too.
	Let me bring up a better photo so people can see this.
	Here it is.
	This shape...
	I think the utility factor of this blade shape is fantastic.
	Both ends have their own uses.
	And it's got enough heft to have some momentum behind it.
	The etching that you do on it is gorgeous.
	I mean, these are beautiful blades, not just incredibly functional.
	You want to talk about the hatchet a little bit?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So the hatchet, you know, we started in this...
	This idea when we first came up with a tomahawk, and I always wanted to do a hatchet.
	You know, a tomahawk's awesome for what it is, and I love the tomahawk.
	But I wanted a tool that I could take out backpacking, hiking, camping, hunting, any of that.
	And when you brought up that you wanted to do a hatchet, I'm like, okay, I'm all in.
	Let's do this.
	Let's make something really cool and different.
	And, you know, there's a lot of cheap hatchets.
	I mean, they use just...
	Garbage steel, basically.
	You know, we see the throwing hatchets.
	And these can be thrown.
	They're weighted.
	So we did do that.
	But I wanted something that could be a tool that could last forever.
	So we came up with this whole design, and we worked with harmonics.
	So we actually made a digital program and worked with the harmonics.
	So that's why you see the slit up at the top.
	So that slit that you see there, that hole helps with harmonics.
	So when you're hitting and you're chopping wood, there's even other holes underneath the handle.
	And all that works with the vibration of the steel.
	And that way it subverses that energy.
	So that way you're not taking in that energy.
	It's not hurting your blade.
	It's not going to cause it to break.
	It just makes it extremely strong.
	Even if you happen to hit a knot, not recommended, but if you happen to, you can go right through it.
	Let me mention, these are all, people can see it here, these are all branded Health Ranger Survival Gear, HRSG. That is emblazoned on all these blades.
	It's one of the things that makes these, this is a very limited edition, and this indicates that I was part of the design and testing of the blade.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you for doing that, John.
	Well, you did a great job.
	You had a lot of good ideas.
	When I made the first one, you're right, it was short.
	I'm like, okay, what do you think?
	You're like, let me make it longer.
	So we started doing the testing with that longer, and it just turned out a lot better.
	And I really appreciate all this feedback because, you know, it's good to have people in the field that know what they're doing.
	And you have a brilliant mind, Mike.
	And so this helps us putting our knowledge of manufacturing together with your skill and your survival skills really comes up with an amazing product that can be used, passed down for generations, but used in a survival situation.
	And that's the main thing.
	It's a serious tool.
	This isn't your Amazon stuff.
	This is something you can bet your life on.
	Now, some people say, well, you know, like costs more than a Glock or that costs more than this.
	Yeah, well, you know, I'd rather bet my life on that because my life is worth it.
	And number two, I can do so much with that.
	And you never have to reload with your extreme machete.
	Let me show people this now, because everybody's going to cry when they see this, because it's not for sale.
	But, John, there's a really interesting story about this blade, but let me just show people first.
	This is, here we go, this is the windstorm in Magna Cut, and I think this is the only one that exists like this in the world.
	I really value this, John.
	This is an incredible accomplishment.
	And what's interesting is that the way I was introduced to your company was I was a customer.
	I found your company many years ago And the very first thing I bought was this design, Windstorm, but it was never available in a MagnaCut steel.
	But I found this shape, this length, the weighting, everything that you've done with this, the thinning up here, The sword is fast, it's rugged, the self-defense capabilities of this are amazing, and it's a work of art.
	Tell us about the Windstorm design.
	Now, you do sell other Windstorm steel swords on your site, correct?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yours is the first 001 MagnaCut Windstorm that we ever produced.
	That is the full-length one, 24-inch.
	It's a work of art.
	It's amazing.
	It took so many years to get that right in that steel because, I mean, whenever you work with a different steel and getting out to that length.
	And it's a two-handed design here, obviously, here.
	And I love the retention that you have here, the wrapping that you've got.
	But the two-handed design is just absolutely secure.
	It's just the right length with the finger guard up here.
	I mean, you can't ask for a better real-world blade.
	If it goes Mad Max, this is what I want, okay?
	That's all I'm saying.
	I have to agree with you, Mike.
	The blade's just wicked awesome.
	I mean, there's nothing like it out there, especially MagnaCut.
	You know, that blade is humbling because even with all the experience that we have, they're so difficult to grind just to get that curve.
	I can only imagine.
	There are a lot of curves on this blade, really.
	Very subtle.
	Yeah.
	Everything has a point.
	Everything in there is functional.
	From the curve and everything, we follow old-world, real-world blaze that were very functional for its time.
	What people don't realize with all our knives, every single knife that we make, They're all hand ground.
	Yeah, that's right.
	They're not machine ground.
	There's a person behind that grinder that is doing that grinding, and he's putting a bit of his soul in every knife.
	And when we get into that windstorm, there is literally only three people that can grind it.
	Myself, my brother, and my nephew.
	And that's like, what, 10 years of experience to even approach something like that?
	Oh, at least.
	And then you have to have a knack for it.
	So, you know, we're one of the, you know, just in our family and just passing this down, this American heritage.
	And this is what, you know, I think that America needs to get back to.
	It's heritage and training up family, getting them back into the business, into manufacturing.
	You know, I would say that Humbly, that me and my brother and my nephew are one of the top 10 grinders in this country.
	Wow.
	Because that art is being lost.
	There's a lot of people that...
	You know, have given this up or have gone to machining and that's why you don't see swords because the machines, you got to have a massive machine and even when you have that, it just generates too much heat or the blade flexes.
	You have to be able to adjust every single time while you're going.
	That human brain is amazing.
	I'm so honored to know you over all these years.
	I'm so honored that you allow me to have input and that we can work together on this.
	And I know that...
	You're probably going to kick me for mentioning this because now people want to buy.
	And this is like the hardest one to make.
	But let me give out your website, DawsonKnives.com.
	And on your website then, I just want to show people, you make many different swords and knives and bowies and blades and so on.
	And yeah, see, rare plus unique.
	That's the category, of course, that I like the most, rare plus unique.
	And I remember...
	Every time I would go on your site and try to buy the Windstorm, it was sold.
	It was gone.
	You don't have a robot factory churning these out.
	These are crafted blades.
	You have a very limited supply.
	And frankly, they're gone quickly.
	It's like...
	You know, you might have one of what we're looking at right on the screen, like you might have one or two of these in stock right now, and then it's gone for a while.
	Well, you know, it's all about quality over quantity.
	I mean...
	That's our name.
	That's why we've been in business now 51 years.
	It's quality over quantity.
	We really work on trying to make American made something special.
	I mean, we want people to pass these down.
	We want them to be extremely functional, but works of art just because of the craftsmanship.
	And so we're not going to turn out like 300 of these or 400 of these.
	You know, that's not going to happen.
	I mean, these are hang ground.
	So that's why I tell people when you see a Dawson, it is something you can rely on and bet on.
	I mean, we're not flashing the pan.
	There's a lot of new companies that come out, you know, they're making knives here and there.
	They come and they go.
	We've been around since 1973. Yeah, and we've been around for this long, and we do it the right way.
	Yeah, I'm not saying there isn't trials.
	I mean, the economy has trials.
	There's all these things.
	But our God gets us through, and we have generation and generation that we train up into this art.
	So that way, Dawson Knives will continue on.
	We're going to continue making cooler, better stuff.
	We're always pushing the envelope.
	But the one thing your customers can be, rest assured, and all your listeners here, is that no matter what happens, we're always going to take care of you, and we're always going to praise Jesus Christ.
	Amen to that, brother.
	Amen.
	Let me bring up this knife, which is the one that I think kind of made us both a little bit more famous.
	This is called Escape from New York.
	Or, I'm sorry, Escape from L.A. in this case.
	I'm thinking about the movie now with Kurt Russell.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's what I was thinking.
	Escape from L.A. Tactical Knife.
	Now, people who know knives, they look at this design.
	Yeah, show my screen again.
	And they freak out.
	They're like, what on earth?
	What is this?
	And what is this?
	We call this the reverse bottle opener here, but as you know, this is a pry bar here.
	Remember the day we talked about this and you sketched out what I was describing?
	I was like, John, we need a knife that if you get stuck in Los Angeles and the power goes out, you've got to pry open windows and doors.
	You've got to escape from the zombies.
	You gotta cut, like, door chains and stuff.
	You're like, oh man, what's that gonna look like?
	I was just thinking, like, how are we gonna make a fixed blade leather bin?
	I mean, how is this gonna work out, you know?
	I'm like, I said, no, here's what I want.
	I want you to be able to, like, shove this pry bar under a window, and then you can stand on the handle and jump up and down on it until that window opens.
	Right?
	Or you can use a hammer and you can hammer this thing into a crevice and you can pull on it and it won't break.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah.
	I remember that.
	I'm just thinking, you know, either Mike is really genius on this or he's lost it.
	I don't know.
	We're going to play around.
	We're going to try and figure this out here.
	There's a fine line between those two.
	And then, so you built that knife, the first one, and then I remember you thought I was super crazy when I called you back.
	I said, we need something that can hook onto lines, that can like hook things, because this, I imagine there are lines, there are power cables, there are things that the knife needs to grip on.
	And we came up with this little reverse bottle opener hook thing.
	And it doesn't take away from the blade at all.
	No.
	No, it doesn't.
	I'm going to tell you what, that took a lot of engineering and a lot of designs back and forth so we can get that going.
	Yeah, it's really an amazing knife, honestly.
	It does all those functions really well.
	It does a great job.
	It's the only one of its kind.
	And we have a video up of it on your site where it is like pulling out fence nails.
	It's just pulling them out.
	It's a pry function too.
	Yes, thank you for mentioning that.
	Yeah, it's an incredible pry function.
	You got this pry bar in the front, which also, I've used it as a screwdriver, so it works that way too.
	Yep, yep.
	It's pretty cool.
	What I encounter here in Texas, I encounter a lot of old fence posts where barbed wire has been hammered in using those U-shaped nails, I guess you call them.
	You know, they're U-shaped.
	And this knife is perfect.
	I can just go up, I can grip that, and I can pry those nails out using the reverse bottle opener feature.
	And then as you showed in your video, you can also, you can hammer through nails.
	Not that we're recommending that you do it like every day.
	That's not, you will eventually damage the blade.
	But in an emergency, if you have to hammer through other steel, this blade can take it.
	Yeah.
	That was something my brother was really proud of because when we first cut this out, he's like, John, you've lost it.
	I don't know what's going on, but you know what?
	I'm going to test this because he wanted to test it.
	He's like, I want to make sure every part of this is functional.
	And before we put anything out, and it actually surprised him.
	In fact, at the end, he was just like, I don't even know how I'm going to hurt this thing.
	Just bring in those thick nails, and I'm going to just start hammering through them.
	So he started pounding with a sledgehammer over that blade, and it's just cutting nail after nail after nail.
	Yeah, I saw that.
	And it's just a great design.
	Yeah, it's just, who does that?
	I mean, what knife does that?
	I mean, it's incredible.
	He was sold, so he has one.
	I have one.
	Oh, the coolest thing.
	Okay, we have to get this video.
	So we took one of those escape from LA's and we wanted to see if you were trapped in a building or something.
	I mean, who knows?
	The power's gone out.
	You have this problem.
	It's not your building.
	You just were shopping there, right?
	And you're finding another way and there's a locked door.
	Well, this thing worked really good on commercial wood doors.
	This thing worked good on metal outside doors.
	This thing was incredible.
	I mean, it took effort.
	I mean, it wasn't easy, but it could be done.
	And that was really cool.
	And that's the point.
	I mean, that's what this knife is all about.
	And I want you to know, I gave one of these knives to one of my contacts that operates on the border of Texas.
	And that was, I don't know, eight months ago or something.
	And he, it's part of his kit now.
	He won't go out without it.
	And he finds a hundred uses for it also out in the field.
	And I don't know if you know this, but...
	In terms of the trafficking problem that exists in Texas, there are also cases where there's children that have been kidnapped, and there's people that have been tied up in trucks and things.
	They pay money, and then the coyotes basically make them prisoners to hide them and smuggle them.
	And this kind of tool is the very thing that you need at that last moment to cut the lines, or to cut the cables, to cut the...
	The zip ties or whatever is like holding, you know, keeping these people prisoner.
	And part of the job, actually, of the Texas-based guys that work the border, they save lives.
	They're not just there to arrest people.
	They save people.
	They save children.
	They save women who have been assaulted.
	They save people who are dying from dehydration.
	And these kinds of tools are a life-saving part of that whole operation.
	I just want you to know.
	You know, I really appreciate that, Mike.
	And that's something that's very dear to my family.
	And everything you said is absolutely true.
	And I know that because my mom lives in Nogales.
	I grew up in Nogales for most of my teenage life.
	And I still go down there.
	And I've got family members that are on the Border Patrol.
	One of them is in Bortec down there.
	Another one is actually on the border in Douglas, Nogales region.
	And, you know, what you were describing, I actually had a good friend.
	I'm half Mexican.
	My mom came here legally.
	And so I have family in Mexico, family on this side.
	One of my really good family friends was a federale.
	And he wanted me to make him a knife, a special knife.
	And so if he ever got taken, which they do, these cartels do it all the time.
	And you were talking about coyotes are all run by cartels.
	And he actually did get taken.
	He was actually in L.A. when it happened.
	And he did have that knife, and he was able to get out.
	Wow.
	That's actual escape from LA. Actual escape from LA. But it's so important and it happens all the time.
	And you're absolutely right.
	Having the right tools can save your life.
	100%.
	And it's not a joke.
	This is reality that is happening every day that a lot of people don't realize.
	Right.
	And you know, I've been a prepper for a long time, and before I found your company, which was now, I don't know, five years ago or whatever it was, I had bought a lot of knives from a lot of famous brands.
	You know, I had bought knives from Amazon, and I was researching steel.
	And I was, like, I think 4065 is one kind of, like, lower-cost steel.
	I don't recall the numbers now, but...
	I was trying to find the highest quality steel I could find, the highest quality blades I could find, and I would buy them and I would get them They were props, man.
	I could tell these weren't going to last a day in the field in Texas.
	They look great on the website, but I never bought Lord of the Rings blade or Star Wars Jedi blade.
	No, I wasn't into that.
	I was trying to buy functional tools.
	I just couldn't find anything that was worth it.
	The money.
	Until I found your company.
	And then it's like, okay, this is it.
	This is all about functionality, not about hobbits or anything like that.
	You know, that's the thing.
	It's got to be real.
	And, you know, Amazon, you're not going to find real knives.
	You're going to find, like you said, movie props.
	That's what they are.
	It's a movie prop with an edge on it.
	And so you get a lot of China stuff coming in.
	You've got a lot of things that are coming in from overseas, saturating our market.
	And we have to realize...
	That when you buy a blade like that, it might be sharp for a little while, but you're just basically leasing because that blade will break.
	The edge will go.
	You can't resharpen it.
	It's just junk.
	So you're going to buy more and more of those blades instead of buying one lifetime blade that you can pass down for generations.
	Now think about that.
	If I can pass this knife down for generations, the cost per that knife is actually significantly lower than buying hundreds of Chinese knives.
	I'll actually end up spending more and then my kids will end up spending more where they could have this knife that dad bought that he passes down and says, you know, this was my dad's.
	This is always performed.
	That's American made.
	I remember my, you know, America at this time.
	Absolutely.
	And also, what's the cost of your knife breaking when you need it?
	Like if you have a cheap knife and it fails you.
	Now you're in a very difficult situation.
	And let me show you this knife.
	This is part of my EDC. I'm sure you'll recognize it because there's only two American knife companies that I buy knives from.
	And yours, obviously, is what we're talking about today.
	This is the other one.
	Do you recognize this?
	Yes, that looks like a...
	Is that a Spyderco?
	Nope.
	Benchmade?
	Nope.
	It's kind of hard to see there.
	Oh, it's the one with the Crombat.
	Yeah, Emerson.
	You got it.
	It's an Emerson Crombat.
	Yeah, that's an Emerson.
	Sorry, it's hard to see.
	It's hard to see.
	No, I get it.
	But this is part of my EDC here, because obviously I can't put a sword on my back all the time.
	But this thing also, Emerson.
	uh the the innovation that they demonstrated with that wave opener that's that's the kind of thing that inspires me and i think both of us together to put so much innovation into the blades that you are making it's it's like we don't have to do the old way the old pattern you know we have new applications we have this is a different time we can innovate and that's what you're really good at doing john Well, thank you very much, Mike.
	And, you know, Ernie Emerson, he's done an amazing job.
	I mean, all his stuff that he does, we've known him in the knife world.
	Barry, that's my uncle, who started this knife business.
	They're about, you know, the same age going through, and they were doing different things, but they're always friends.
	And that's the whole thing.
	Because, you know, when you get together, it's not competition.
	It's like, Hey, what did you come up with?
	Oh, that's really cool.
	What did you come up with?
	Oh, that's awesome.
	It's a really amazing community when you actually have real American knife makers producing American products here in the United States.
	It's not competition.
	Now you get these American companies, but they're producing it overseas or they're just trying to be the hype.
	There's a lot of hype going on right now, but they're not giving you the bang for your buck.
	What they're trying to do is make the most amount of money And trying to source these things over.
	And at the end of the day, you're just not ending up with an heirloom piece.
	And that's why I really like the old school knife makers and everything.
	It was just a different time.
	And we're starting to see some of that coming back.
	Some of these knife makers are saying, you know what?
	I really just want to make something that's amazing that I'm happy to put my name on.
	Yeah, and you do a great job with that.
	I think you are the best in this business, and you've also been very humbly willing to work with me and my audience to make the kinds of functional utility, you know, survival-oriented or tool-oriented blades that this community needs.
	And I just want to thank you.
	And your family.
	And it's an amazing success story that you've brought to us.
	I'm so inspired by what you do.
	And I just want to thank you.
	You have significantly added to the lives of so many people around me that I've given these blades to, by the way.
	I mean, I'll tell you more stories off camera, but you're changing people's lives in a positive way.
	So thank you.
	Well, thank you very much, Mike.
	And if we have some time, I want to share a quick story.
	And, you know, you were bringing this up.
	Yeah, we're almost out of time.
	So I apologize, but keep it short.
	Yeah, keep it short.
	We went hunting just recently.
	And, you know, elk hunt.
	Seven days.
	It was the last day.
	We hadn't seen anything.
	You know, we did everything that we thought.
	We looked around.
	We talked to people that we knew.
	On the seventh day, you know, we're hiking up.
	And this is over here, 5A. And we're tired.
	And I just prayed to the Lord.
	And I said, you know, Jesus, you know, I haven't turned to you.
	I'm sorry, but I'm praying to you now.
	If you just give me a chance at a bull elk.
	I'll be very grateful.
	So we're hiking up, you know, Dennis, you know, that's my brother with his son and, you know, we're coming up to this pass and then I happen to turn and I see this giant bull elk.
	Just staring at me about 20 yards.
	No joke.
	And so I get ready.
	I get my gun up.
	I'm starting to put up.
	And I hesitated for a little while.
	I just hesitated just to make sure, you know, my brother wasn't taking a shot or something.
	And I start getting that up.
	And before I could take the shot, he runs off.
	And I'm like, man, I missed that, you know, and started thinking to myself, you know, that wasn't God's fault.
	You know, he answered my prayer.
	I just wasn't ready to receive my blessing.
	And so next time I can't hesitate when my blessing comes.
	I got to be prepared.
	I got to be ready to receive my blessing.
	Maybe he answered the elk's prayer.
	Yeah, right?
	The elk is like, don't let this dude shoot me.
	Yeah, he's got me right here, man.
	So what happened was I talked to my brother about it really fast, and he's all like, yeah, thank you very much for telling me.
	I'm not going to hesitate next time we're going to do this, because he had taken a shot earlier and he missed.
	And so we're driving.
	It's coming up to, you know, sundown.
	And I'm praying again.
	I said, Lord, thank you for the first one.
	You did awesome.
	That was my fault.
	I wasn't prepared.
	If you give me one more chance, or my brother one more chance, I don't care who.
	If you give us one more chance and you send him out, you know, I'll be grateful.
	And right at the end, right before twilight, My brother sees it.
	We're hiking out.
	He just drops down, and I see him get ready, and he takes a shot.
	And we ended up getting a really nice pull-out, a big one, right at the last day, the last minute.
	And you know, God answers our prayers, and that's how we run our business.
	If I'm good at it, it's because of Him.
	And that's why I appreciate you so much, Mike.
	I thank you so much for your faith.
	You're my brother in Christ.
	And, you know, we work together, you know, to help the Lord bring this kingdom, but more importantly, to do the best we can with our hands and to make sure that we have the best and God answers prayers and He's answered prayers with, you know, with our collaboration, you know, getting us to meet together and now making these amazing products that we get to share with your listeners.
	Amen to that.
	Thank you for all that you do.
	And I always enjoy talking with you.
	And let's get together over the holidays, privately, you know, on a phone call or whatever, and think about what we're going to do together next year.
	Because I know it'll be amazing.
	But I just want to let folks know the supply of these is very limited.
	Obviously, it's a very limited run.
	These are once-in-a-lifetime items.
	They do make great gifts to yourself or others.
	Go to healthrangerstore.com slash knives, and you can see some of them that we have available here.
	When you get your hands on these, you will be astonished at the durability, the quality that goes into these.
	We have not had anybody complain about any quality issues on your knives.
	Not once.
	Sometimes people say, well the color looks a little bit different than, you know, what it was.
	Well, you know, okay.
	Does it work?
	You know, it's handmade, and it's hand-finished.
	It's a personality.
	You have one that's unlike anybody else's, and that's the way it really is.
	That's true.
	The patterns, every pattern's unique, you know, because that's the way they're made.
	All right, John, we gotta go, but thank you so much for your time today.
	God bless you, and have a wonderful Christmas.
	God bless you too, Mike.
	Merry Christmas.
	Alright, you too.
	Take care.
	Thank all of you for watching.
	And remember, I've been told if you order on or before December 22nd, you can still get these by Christmas with, I think, overnight shipping, obviously.
	So check it out, healthrangerstore.com slash knives and get your hands on these while we have access to MagnaCut.
	Let's see what happens with that and pray for a positive solution.
	Thank you for watching today.
	Mike Adams here at Brighton.com.
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	So our Silver Fresh toothpaste, it's fluoride-free, obviously, because we don't want neurotoxins in the toothpaste.
	And the ingredients include colloidal silver water that's made from Texas rainwater, xylitol, which has its own amazing properties, Let's see.
	Baking soda.
	I'm not mentioning every ingredient, but the key ones.
	Menthol crystals.
	Organic stevia extract powder to give it a little bit of a sweet taste, but stevia also has its own antibacterial properties as well.
	Organic peppermint essential oil, anise oil, and organic cinnamon bark essential oil.
	So the flavor, the taste, the texture, it's really fantastic.
	We don't use any SLS. We don't use any fluoride.
	We don't use any artificial colors.
	We don't use any garbage ingredients, no filler, nothing.
	This is real effective, healthy toothpaste that also helps support gum health, oral health.
	Try this.
	You will never go back to a regular store-bought toothpaste ever again.
	And this is our new formulation.
	We make it ourselves.
	And again, available only now for the first time as a bonus item if you purchase $149 or more during this Christmas sale event at healthrangerstore.com slash Christmas.
	And thank you for all your support.

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