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Jan. 17, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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New Zealand investigator Liz Gunn interviewed on the arrest of Barry Young...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And as you know, recently, a database administrator in New Zealand named Barry Young blew the whistle on datasets that he had observed, which were related to vaccine injection billing, I believe.
And he saw that in certain vaccine lots, there were alarmingly high rates of fatalities in the weeks following injections.
And so as a human being who cares about other human beings, God forbid we have compassionate people in our world, he sounded the alarm.
He blew the whistle.
He went public.
And this set off a wave of concern and interest around the world.
And then Liz Gunn, who is an attorney and with experience in journalism, interviewed Barry Young and helped spread the message of what he was doing as Barry Young was being incarcerated by the government of New Zealand and charged with multiple crimes and is now facing potentially years in prison. interviewed Barry Young and helped spread the message of what We are joined today by Liz Gunn to give us an update on Barry Young and to help explain more details about this very alarming, very disturbing situation that, Welcome to the show, Liz.
It's an honor to have you on today.
And by the way, I'm very honored by your work.
I'm impressed by what you're doing.
Thank you for your service to humanity.
Thank you.
And you've got in first.
I just think what you did in establishing Brighteon is extraordinary and it's been extraordinarily important in Battling the massive censorship that the dark forces are trying to put out around the world, so Brighteon is a real treasure for the world.
Yes, just bringing you up to date on how that happened, I decided before our October 14th election in New Zealand that there was nobody I really wanted to vote for, so I put out a call to the New Zealand public.
We're a country of just over five million, so we can do things here that can be quite extraordinary.
I said, look, if you want a party of real representatives to stand up for you against these tyrants who are the puppets of the World Economic Forum, the UN, and the WHO, then I will put that together, but I need 500 people to sign up within a week.
And overnight, Mike, we had 1,700 sign-ups.
So from that crazy idea, we very quickly, 11 weeks out from an election, put together a whole party.
We put together a tour.
And while I was on that tour, Barry turned up in one of the audiences, Barry Young, and he was holding a file.
We then subsequently said to my cameraman, please, could I have 10 minutes with Liz?
We subsequently met in a room, and that was where I saw the horror figures.
And they're haunting.
They're just haunting.
I mean, no wonder this man, he says to me, Liz, when I was in prison for those two nights, I had the best sleeps I've had for two years because he's been living with the growing numbers of deaths and knowing that when he spoke out that he might potentially stop this genocide around the world,
but equally knowing he had to allow You know, like any statistician or analysis of numbers, you have to allow the numbers to stack up to a certain point until there is evidence of the genocide that you want to declare and you want to expose.
So it's been haunting him and they haunted me.
And as soon as the election was over and there were interesting results with the numbers, we had a party that supposedly on the freedom side that was herding people back into the mainstream politicians, undermining real freedom.
We just stayed silent on that as soon as the election was over.
I said to him, right, let's look at those numbers and how we can get them out.
So we spent eight weeks.
We met at one point in the middle of the...
New Zealand has two islands in the middle of the North Island.
And we had a statistician.
We had overseas statisticians we talked to and were in touch with.
By then, I'd contacted Steve Kirsch as well and a number of others overseas.
And then we had a couple of doctors.
And everybody to a man or woman, when they see the deaths, when they see the jabs every one minute, two minutes.
For example, Mike, one I quote often is 51 people jabbed within the space of two hours in Invercargill, a tiny little town at the southern end of the South Island.
And it's probably got about 56,000 people at the time.
It had one of the worst sites, and it had a number of what we call clusters.
A cluster is where three people or more have died on the same site, same day, quite often the same batch number.
So it had a cluster of 51 people, all jabbed on the same day within two hours.
And they are all now dead.
And they were dead within a range of about six months.
They were all dead.
You can look down at the date of jabbing and the date of death, different columns.
And it just takes your breath away.
Now, the way they've tried to decry that is they've said, or some people, because surprisingly some have tried to run this down, oh, they're all old people.
But wait a minute.
Weren't we sold the jab as something to save our old people, to look after them?
To protect old people, yes.
How can we now go, oh, it's only old people, we don't have to worry.
You would never ever get those numbers all dying within that range from the same day of jabbing in the real world.
That would be, one overseas statistician said it would be a 1 in 100 billion chance.
So you have to look at this as real-time evidence.
Let me add, I interviewed Steve Kirsch recently, and he pointed out something really, a really good thought experiment that helps explain all of this.
That, as you mentioned, this cluster of 51 people, they all died within a certain time frame.
What was that time frame, by the way?
It was about six months.
But then, obviously, this is the dark...
This is the dark brilliance of it.
They're never all going to die on the same day.
They're all going to die on different days.
But you look at it and go, six months on, it's the equivalent of a whole coach, a whole busload.
Exactly.
And they've all gone now.
That's too much.
It's not natural causes taking them.
Well, yeah, and clearly, and again, what Kirsch explained to me is the causality of this, right?
So these 51 people were injected.
On the same day, within six months, they were all dead.
100% of them died.
But you can't find, in the inverse, you can't find any group that was, let's say, planning to get injected, but died in large numbers before they made it to the injection day.
You see what I'm saying?
There are no such clusters.
Because vaccines don't work backwards in time.
They only work forwards in time.
And therefore, of course, all the deaths happen after the vaccine.
But that's a causality.
I mean, if you could find random...
Clusters of people in one town that were suddenly dying all at once that were not attributed to the vaccine, then maybe you could argue, well, there's something in the air or something in the water or a meteor hit this town.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
Or some German troops marched in and put them in...
In burning fires, you know what I mean?
Right.
This is a genocide.
This is a genocide.
And, you know, as a woman, as a mother, I also look around me at the communities.
I talk to people endlessly as a curious – I went from law in my training into journalism, so I'm always curious.
If I talk to anybody in – especially in our Maori and Pacific Island communities, Mike, they have big extended families, lots and lots of cousins, aunts and uncles – They will all tell you to your face, oh yes, I've been to way more funerals in the last 18 months than I normally would have.
I had one big, burly, strong, these are strong rugby-playing men, my friend Joe, and he just broke down.
He said, I can't do another funeral.
I can't carry another coffin of an elder or a baby, you know, a young one, a young child of over five years.
Who have died prematurely.
I just can't do it.
And I think he said he's been to 60 funerals in the last 11 months.
Oh, that's unbelievable.
It's insane.
Yeah, that's insane.
I mean, clearly, this is a biological weapon that has been deployed.
I want to ask about your theories of why New Zealand in particular.
But let me give out your website here first.
So the political party that you and others formed is called NZL or NZ Loyal.
Loyal Party.
Loyal to you, not to them.
And the website is nzloyal.org.nz, right?
Yes.
And there's our deputy leader.
Yeah, that's our deputy leader, Logan, a former soldier.
He's a great guy, Logan Courtney.
nzloyal.org.nz.
Perfect.
Of course, in New Zealand, Mike, we say NZ. NZ, yes.
Yes, I know.
I'm translating it for the Americans.
If you say Zed, many of them won't.
They'll be looking for the Zed on the keyboard.
Where's the Zed?
I don't know where the Zed went.
But anyway,.nz is always at the end of New Zealand websites.
So that's what that's all about.
Jokes aside, though, I'm really glad that you're active in this political effort.
But we also want to get today...
I mean, you're free to talk about your party's plans, but also we want to help Barry here.
So we want to know about how we can raise funds for Barry.
What's his legal strategy?
I mean, the act of him releasing the data, I think, is a very heroic pro-humanitarian act.
He should be given like the Global Medal of Human Freedom or something for that.
Instead, he's facing prison.
Now this is really revealing and I want to focus on Barry as well and whistleblowers around the world.
I'll put in a call, please, if you are sitting on information like Barry was that's making your heart ache, that hurts every day when you know that what information you have in front of you could change this whole dynamic and bring down the corrupt WHO and the WEF and the UN and all of their tyranny and bullying.
If you're sitting on it, come out with it.
Barry has said He's willing to pay whatever price that is, and they are threatening him with seven years' prison.
But here's the rub.
So many Kiwis admire him, just the way Mike said, as a real hero up there with Edmund Hillary, who climbed Everest, because the courage this is taking in the face of the lies and the bullying, and this is the rub, Mike, the intimidation by the Ministry of Health in New Zealand, the Ministry of Sickness, it should be called, Instead of saying, wow, we did not realize what this data shows.
No, they've gone to the New Zealand's new government under Christopher Luxon with Winston Peters, who promised he'd stand for the Freedom Fighters, and they've got the permission to go after our whistleblower with, get this, eight police burst into his house.
They smashed down his door.
They roughed up his house.
And when they took him in, they had guns, which we don't normally have in New Zealand.
I mean, this is a man who's working over a hot keyboard all day, who's the most gentle, ethical soul you could ever meet.
Yeah, they treat him like a terrorist.
Yeah, there was no need.
And they vastly overeat.
The purpose of that was to intimidate other Kiwis into silence.
And instead, more and more Kiwis are being woken up going, Wait a minute.
If the data is anonymized, which it is, it doesn't breach privacy, which it doesn't, then put it out.
Let us all see it.
And meantime, the Ministry of Health and the government are saying nothing to see here.
The jab is safe and effective.
They're doubling down on the propaganda saying, oh, there's a new wave of COVID. Get your boosters.
Get your six-month booster.
Absolutely criminal behavior in my mind to keep going when there is clear evidence of excess mortality from this jab and they are doubling down because we're an experimental population.
I'll talk about that in a moment.
Well, instead of looking at it, they come after the guy.
They try to kill the messenger and not listen to the message, Mike.
I mean, it's extraordinary.
Most of the jabbing, which I would consider to be a criminal act of genocide against the New Zealand people, was carried out under Jacinda Ardern, right?
Yes.
And why isn't she being prosecuted for criminal collusion, carrying out chemical violence or medical violence against women and children and everybody else, including the elderly in New Zealand?
I mean, in my mind, as an American observing this, What Jacinda did...
Am I pronouncing her name correctly?
Is it Jacinda?
Yes.
What Jacinda did is...
Similar, not in scale, but in quality to what many of the worst anti-humanitarian war criminals have done throughout human history.
And you can name them off.
There are lots of them.
But what she did is the same in my mind.
She should be prosecuted as a criminal, and yet the whistleblower that is exposing what she did is the one facing jail.
And in their vast overreach, it's backfiring on them because people are going, well, if you are sending so many cops in and roughing up a person's house and putting an innocent hero, as you called him, in jail for two nights, you must have a lot to hide.
Yes.
Now, here's the other rub.
We've got a new government.
Normally, in the real democracy we're meant to have, which we don't have because they all answer to the same overlords from these world organisations, Normally, a new party getting in would be going, look at Jacinda Ardern.
She was terrible.
Here's the evidence.
We don't ever want to support what she did.
We're a proper opposition party.
All they're doing, Mike, is staying absolutely silent.
And my question to Christopher Luxon is...
Has Jacinda rung you from Harvard, where she now hangs out to tell the world that people should be censored from telling their truths like we are?
Has Jacinda rung you and possibly said, hey, Christopher Luxon, you take me down, I'll take you down, because you were part of it as the opposition.
Now, we don't know if that's possible, but I do question why the new leader is staying so silent when people want the truth.
And we say, if you're saying...
This is safe and effective according to the data you have, Ministry of Health.
Put it out.
It's anonymized.
Let us see it.
Let everybody see it here in New Zealand and around the world.
And we'll decide.
We're smart.
Yeah, transparency is supposed to be the answer to all of this, and yet we are denied that.
Let me ask you this question, and I also want to ask you about fundraising.
I notice you have a donate button on your website, so we'll give that out again for people who want to donate to the legal defense for Barry Young, which I strongly encourage those donations.
But let me ask you this.
So my impression of New Zealanders, from my point of view as a Texan, is that the New Zealand culture actually shares a lot with Texas, which is this fierce independence, this incredible adaptability, resilience, the ability to solve problems resilience, the ability to solve problems often in very rural settings without even having all the right tools and everything.
But they find solutions, they make it work, and the New Zealanders that I know, the Kiwis, if I may use the term, are people who are incredibly self-reliant and critical thinking, and they have good discernment.
But with that understood, I don't understand how so much of New Zealand today is run by these parties that just control and brainwash and enslave their own people.
I don't understand how these two things can go together.
Boy, you've nailed an enormous, in a way, philosophical question about the very heart and soul of who we are now as a people, because what you described were the Kiwis that I grew up with.
That was the pride in being a Kiwi.
And because we were far away from the rest of the world for many years, there was this inventiveness.
There were many, many people who could invent wonderful things on the spot because they needed to problem solve, as you said.
Agile thinkers, very, very independent.
We stood up to America under Lange and said, we don't want nuclear ships in our ports.
We stood up to France back in the 70s for Mururoa.
They were testing their nuclear weapons in an atoll in the middle of the Pacific.
And Kiwis were part of getting that out.
We were a strong, vital people.
Somehow, because Jacinda Ardern, she was the queen of, well, I would say lying.
Someone benign would say propaganda.
but she lied through these enormous teeth with such skill that she just brought the whole nation into a place of fear, which is what every tyrant does from Stalin, Mao Zedong, all of them, Hitler, they all bring fear in to exert their tyrannical they all bring fear in to exert their tyrannical plans across a population.
But she did it so convincingly that many people seemed to fall for a PSYOP.
And I wonder, Mike, if we weren't also an experimental population for how effective a psychological operation can be on a small population, because, boy, she did it well.
You know, I know an American couple that lived in New Zealand and they had immigrated to New Zealand and then they left and they came back to America and they told me that New Zealand, in their view, was the number one experimental site by the globalists to run all their pilot programs and see what they could get away with.
That's chilling.
We had a former leader called Helen Clark who was very ambitious, very ambitious to be the first female leader.
She didn't make it there of New Zealand.
And then she got into the UN and she was very ambitious to head the UN. Again, that kind of female instinct of mine says, did she ever put her hand up and go, hey, you can use my country to experiment with all this stuff as long as I make it up the ranks in the UN? She never made it to the top of the UN, but she was appointed during the COVID rollout to some...
I think Gates, who funded position, you know, they all get their emoluments in the end.
But the point of that is I feel people have sold us out definitely and said, hey, use New Zealand.
We're all good with that.
You know, as long as you look after me as the leader and I get all the benefits, you can take my country and experiment.
But I think Jacinda was also set up, interestingly, by the Christchurch quake.
And we don't ever know the full story of that.
We, again, are not allowed to mention anything about that in our media here.
No, even our network got censored in New Zealand over that very issue.
Yeah, you are not allowed to discuss it.
You are not allowed to question it.
You are not allowed to say.
But what I would say is, that set her up on the world stage as this kind of Mother Teresa figure, you know.
But of course, she's this...
It's a fake.
It's a fake, lovely...
But many Kiwis have reported going overseas and people come up and go, oh, you're so lucky having Jacinda Ardern in your country.
And they'll say to me, I was horrified and I had to tell those people, no, she was a monster.
She looked away.
How does a woman like that put on the scarf and talk to all the Muslim people when they've lost their families in the, sorry, in the Christchurch terror attack?
I think I said quake before, terror attack.
That was the terror attack that set her up.
So how do people How does somebody like Jacinda put on the scarf and be so sympathetic in the terror attack?
And then a couple of years later, when we go, Jacinda, here's an interview with a 24-year-old girl, Casey Hodgkinson, who's in a wheelchair shaking from one jab.
Her life is ruined.
She's got pain like knives in her knees.
Jacinda, help.
Please look at this interview.
And right from that, she just looked away.
I don't want to know.
You know, she never answered any of our emails we sent.
She never answered anybody's emails.
She never answered anybody's concerns.
So on the one hand, in the Christchurch mosque terror attack, she seemed so compassionate.
And then there's this other woman who doesn't give a damn.
One of them is a lie.
And I know who's...
The numbers are even...
I mean, the number of New Zealanders killed by these vaccines, according to the data that Barry Young has released, vastly outpaces the number of victims alleged in the Christchurch attack.
I mean...
Yeah, vastly.
And in fact, we worked out...
Yeah, we worked out that, say, it was 100...
If you take a baseline of deaths over 120, we are now having that almost every day in New Zealand.
We have that graph.
That was very rare in New Zealand before the rollout of the COVID-19 response here.
And one of the rare days was the Christchurch mosque attack.
So now we're basically having that every day and the whole mainstream media in New Zealand Isn't that astonishing?
And what it tells you is that from their point of view, the lives of New Zealanders really don't matter to them.
What matters is the narrative.
And what are the current estimates of the total number of victims from these jabs in New Zealand, based on the best data that you have?
It's very hard to get government data.
I'll give you an example.
I did the baby Will story last year and we were outside the court.
There was a little baby who had to have a heart operation at three months old and they wouldn't give the parents the right to bring unjabbed people in to donate the same kind of blood for his heart operation.
So it blew up to a big question, Mike, which is, Should we all be allowed to go to an unjabbed blood bank?
In other words, if I want to give blood, I'd like to give it to a blood bank where it's not mixed with the blood of the jabbed people, because that gives options.
Because I'm not jabbed, it just gives human beings options, and I believe in options.
Outside the court, I was saying to a lot of the journalists, are you aware of how many jab-injured people we have on the official government website?
And that was early December last year.
And it was 64,000 were officially registered as having had severe adverse reactions.
Do you know how the government responded to my asking those questions?
From December last year, Mike, that was never updated, that government site.
That's how they're doing it.
So, you know, I haven't even publicized it.
There's evidence of a government that rather than say, or Jacinda's government, Rather than say, we'll look into this.
We'll investigate.
We'll find out why this shouldn't be happening.
It's much more, how do we stop the information getting out?
How do we dumb down the population?
How do we silence people?
How do we intimidate so nobody can talk about it?
I mean, this is communism.
This is how the communists do it.
And to be willing to sacrifice your own people.
I'm talking about the political leaders of New Zealand.
Jacinda, for example.
The willingness to see New Zealanders, in essence, murdered.
In order to appease the globalist controllers and perhaps to advance her own political career, which is what she has done.
But at the cost of the blood of your fellow countrymen and women?
I mean, what kind of monster does that take?
I mean, the psychological profile of that kind of person would be among the most horrifying criminal-minded serial killers in human history.
My God, you articulate that well.
We've done pieces on that.
The first time you realize that's where this is leading, we have a leader who's willing to hurt her own people, your brain goes, I won't believe that.
I'm going crazy.
I can't believe that.
That would never happen.
No one would be that monstrous.
But after interviewing so many jab-injured people, sending those into her silence after silence, after asking many of those jab-injured people to look down the camera mic and say, If I wasn't in the room, if that camera was Jacinda and you had one message, one minute to send her a message, what would it be?
And all of these people sobbing about their pain and their lost lives and their confusion, their fear, their sense of betrayal, they would take a breath and generally they would say this, Jacinda, how do you sleep at night?
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean, the assaults on not just human beings, but upon human principles are even more atrocious here, because if we can't operate with a sense of basic humanity with each other, and if our so-called national leaders are actual serial murderers, then how on earth can we have sustainable civilization?
You know, regardless of other issues.
I mean, people can agree or disagree on taxation and climate and whatever.
But if your leaders are murdering your brothers and sisters, you have a much bigger problem.
Absolutely.
And one call I put out about three weeks ago was, Jacinda, you have broken your social contract with the people.
And what did I mean by that?
What I mean is, leaders are only meant to be in there by agreement with the society over whom they are Supposedly chosen by that society to lead So that's a social contract The minute enough people wake up in a society and say, you are not showing that you care about us.
In fact, you are hurting us.
In fact, you are betraying us totally.
Then the society has a right to go and say, you will no longer lead because you don't have the imprimatur, the approval of enough of us.
And that's what I'm trying to do.
Just tell the truth.
But, you know, it's hard.
I'm called every name and I've had a real assault.
I know that it's...
It's been something the government's very scared of, so potentially stirred up by government trolls.
And we know about Soros and what he's done around the world in terms of stirring up problems.
You know, there are some really nasty people trying to tell the lies.
But the beauty of this, getting back to Barry, the beauty of Barry is he just comes out of court the other day, having pled not guilty, and he just says, you know, something is changing.
And we are going to win this, because enough people are realizing that we've been lied to.
So stay with me, stay with us, and we will do the course.
And he will pay whatever price.
If it's seven years in prison, There will be an absolute hullabaloo in this country if they try that.
They've really miscalculated New Zealanders if they think they can do that.
Barry, through his actions, has awakened many sleeping giants around the world.
And I want all of the New Zealand government officials who are probably going to watch this, I want you to know that the whole world is watching you.
The entire world is aware of Barry Young.
And if New Zealand...
Prosecutes Barry Young for sharing anonymized data in the interest of saving human lives, then the collapse of goodwill and respect towards New Zealand as a nation will be truly historic.
The damage that you will do to your own country, your economy, your people, your future, your leadership will be insurmountable.
I mean, you would be committing a kind of national suicide that your own people do not want to experience and do not deserve.
And this is critical to understand.
The whole world is watching here, and we are not going to forget about Barry Young and what he did.
And in fact, he is a hero among heroes around the world because the fact that he was the key database administrator Not just one of 20, like you might have in a larger country, but he was the man who saw these data, and he saw the human cost of what was happening, and he made the compassionate, even spiritual decision to release this to the world.
That actually shows the brightest potential of New Zealand.
If Barry Young were to be held up as a hero...
The benefits to New Zealand in the eyes of the world would be tremendous.
Like, look, these New Zealanders are willing to speak out when so many other people in other countries are silent.
You see what I'm saying?
I love every word you are saying, and it lands as absolute truth.
And here's the thing.
In that first interview where we put out the data, I said, this is the potential for New Zealand to lead the world back to a much better place.
But it's very dark here, that appeal you just made, that warning you just voiced, Mike.
I would put that directly in the laps of the New Zealand media.
Our New Zealand mainstream media continue to either lie totally about it if they mention him at all or to fail to mention him.
So there are many Kiwis still in the dark who don't research, who don't go further than mainstream.
It's absolutely heartbreaking to see, getting back to your point earlier, How can this vital, independent, feisty little nation be so broken?
Well, it's through propaganda and it's through lies from politicians.
And without a mainstream media that puts up the fight on behalf of the people, a mainstream media that in fact collapses into the government narrative, you don't have democracy anymore.
And I used to be that person on the news desk, Mike, 20 years ago.
I was saying, good evening, here is your news.
I mean, it's just so fake now, what I see in mainstream.
And I appeal to anybody in mainstream who's still sitting on that doubt that we talked about earlier.
Am I doing the right thing being a journalist in this era, in mainstream media in New Zealand, when I know there are people dying needlessly and being injured needlessly because of this jab?
I'm going to give up my job and I'm going to make a stand.
Come over.
Tell the truth.
Be one of the whistleblowers as well.
How can we do it without real media?
See, this is where Brighton is so crucial for the world.
Yes, this is why we exist precisely for stories like this.
Now, let's use our network now to bring some help to Barry.
I know he will have substantial legal costs associated with his defense.
How can people help support him?
Thank you so much.
Yes, we've got a really big bill, a big bill of nearly 20,000 at the moment.
So look, if you go on nzloyal.org.nz, I'm getting the American way.
Thank you for that.
You can put on your donation WB, that is Whistleblower.
That just goes directly to a side account.
It is the Whistleblower account.
Okay, so when you make a donation, add WB for whistleblower?
Yep.
Then we know you want it to go there.
That's a side account that is not going to the political party.
Okay.
It's just that we are collecting it on behalf of.
But we have had a call this morning from the bank, Westpac Bank, and I will be calling them once they get off air asking why they are asking for a full examination of accounts.
So is this pressure from the government in another way on us?
And if they do, I'll certainly be happy to go public with that and highlight yet another bank that's collapsing into a corrupt, bullying, tyrannical government narrative.
tyrannical government narrative.
We can't have that either.
We can't have that either.
These banks can't be used as tools to bully brave, freedom-fighting people who want freedom.
These banks can't be used as tools to bully brave, freedom-fighting people who want freedom.
Well, you're familiar with, of course, what happened with the government and the banks in Canada over the truckers' protest.
The banks were pressured, and then people's accounts were frozen.
And I mean, that's the level of desperation that these tyrannical regimes are now turning to in order to try to suppress the people.
And that is completely unacceptable.
But our audience will absolutely reach out and help support you and Now, let me ask you, because you're an attorney, what are Barry Young's chances here?
I've seen the list of charges against him.
Just in plain English, they seem ludicrous.
Accessing a computer for a nefarious purpose or whatever.
But...
Will he be able to avoid prosecution here?
Any idea?
He's pled not guilty.
So that's going to mean potentially...
Thank you.
I think he should have a trial by his peers, the real people of New Zealand.
So there are more discussions to be had there.
But pleading not guilty also gives a chance to really cross-examine the evidence of this database being no threat to privacy, because that's what they're making all the fuss about.
You know, there is a threat to breaching people's privacy.
This is the privacy of dead people who've been murdered by a genocidal government regime.
Are they really going to put privacy beyond the supreme duty of every one of us?
But he hasn't released the names of individuals.
No, not at all.
And there is a duty to look after each other's privacy and respect that.
But above that is a duty to expose criminality in those who are leading our country if it's there.
And this is evidence of criminality.
So the greater duty has to be honoured.
And certainly I haven't gone into it with the lawyer yet.
They're preparing the case as we speak.
But, you know, this will give a chance to cross-examine the Ministry of Health Why they're not releasing anonymized data that belongs to the people of New Zealand?
It's our data.
It's not theirs to do with it what they want.
It's all about us.
So we should know what the results are of this experimental jab.
And they are hiding it.
Let me ask this.
Even if there was not nefarious, murderous intent, if we're talking about just a product safety perspective here, let's say that Barry Young were an administrator of a database of automobile accidents, transportation, And then let's say that he noticed that at the top of the list of fatalities was a certain make and model of a car that happened to be defective.
And its gas tank would explode and burn everybody up.
And there were crazy high deaths for that particular car.
Now, if Barry Young were to go public, not exposing the names of people, but just say...
Oh my goodness, this brand of vehicle is killing New Zealanders.
He would be a hero in the New Zealand media.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And if those who are in charge of the data said, no, no, no, keep the data secret, go after the messenger, they would be absolutely decried.
That's right.
And that's what should be happening here.
Yeah, it's a perfect metaphor.
Yeah.
I mean, think about in any other category, a food product.
You know, if a local food manufacturer were distributing food products into the grocery stores and it were contaminated with salmonella, let's say, and a bunch of people were dying from salmonella, Every person would say, raise the alarm.
We have to save lives.
This is killing people.
Why not with vaccines?
Why not with vaccines?
What has happened with our thinking about vaccines?
How has Bill Gates got away with being the largest funder of the World Health Organization?
That should never have been a man and his company.
And when you look at, as a journalist, I look at Bill Gates being the largest funder of WHO, and WHO declared the pandemic, right, on this side?
And then if you follow a bridge across, you look at who's benefited from the pandemic being declared by Bill Gates and the WHO. Oh, look, we've got the Gates Foundation and Bill Gates benefiting from declaring the pandemic.
Now, as a journalist, when you see that, that bridge tells you there's something very deep that needs examining that may well point to corruption, greed, exploitation, and a lack of morality.
Well, absolutely.
And moving forward in time on this, if this is all covered up, and you already mentioned the New Zealand government has stopped updating its statistics, then what does this mean for any future pandemic or the safety of any future jab?
Because under the response that we're currently seeing from the New Zealand government, it would mean that a vaccine manufacturer could put mercury in the jabs and just inject everybody with mercury.
And if people started dying, I'm not saying they would do this.
This is just a thought experiment, just a metaphor.
But if everybody started dying, then everyone would be silenced.
You can't talk about the poison in the jabs.
They can put, you know, radioactive uranium in the jabs and no one could talk about it.
And let's face it, Mike, we all know there were nine pages of adverse reactions and probably many more that they didn't put on those nine small typed pages for the Pfizer jab alone.
What is in that?
What is in that?
Nobody knows.
And why should we put something deep inside our veins, deep inside our bodies when we don't even know what it is?
Let me add this too.
I'm a food scientist.
I run an analytical food science lab.
We test for contaminants.
I happen to know that New Zealand has very strict food and supplement importation rules.
In order to import supplements into New Zealand, they have to pass very strict requirements, and there are certain allowable residue limits, by the way, of pesticides and herbicides and heavy metals such as lead and arsenic.
Those rules exist in New Zealand as well as Australia and Canada.
But why is it that a vaccine can have anything in it?
Literally anything.
It doesn't need to pass any safety tests, no clinical trials, no heavy metals testing, no genetic testing.
It can be genetically contaminated or polluted.
It can have non-human genetic code in it.
And to the government of New Zealand, that's okay?
I mean, you're arguing over vitamin C purity over here?
Oh, you can't have too much vitamin C. But then, oh, but just inject like monkey kidney cells.
How insane is that?
And, you know, that is a place I personally would never, ever have a vaccine again.
However, I believe in total freedom.
So if somebody wants to have a vaccine in the future, if I were the Prime Minister, the first thing I'd say is, All right, we'll bring in vaccines, but we will remove all protection for the manufacturer.
So if a vaccine ever is shown to cause harm to any group of people, then that manufacturer will be held up in court and liable.
Why on earth did Reagan remove that?
Why did he remove that liability for the manufacturers of vaccines back in the 80s?
Because the vaccines were harming so many people.
That's why.
Yeah, and the FDA, of course, went along with it, and the courts went along with it.
Did you know that the vaccine court in the United States sits above the U.S. Supreme Court?
No, I did not.
Yes, the Supreme Court has ruled that it cannot overrule the vaccine court.
That's frightening.
Think about that.
Yeah.
I mean, isn't that a eulogy to the whole vaccine industry, the power of it?
The power of it to make money and then corrupt using the money it's made, hurting human beings.
And we know that it costs money as a vaccine manufacturer to implement quality control measures.
And so since there are no repercussions for having a lack of quality control, then they probably say, why bother?
You know, anything goes.
And I think, again, even if you take away the nefarious motivations, let's say that these are all accidents.
Well, even if they're accidents, you.
You have to call out the dangerous products.
I mean, we have entire agencies in America that call out dangerous products.
Oh, you know, these Mickey Mouse t-shirts have lead in the paint and they're being sold to children.
I mean, that company will be fined millions of dollars, but not if it's a vaccine.
It's just frightening how we got here and this sort of blind, almost as if a vaccine is a kind of god in front of which we must all bow down and accept it unconditionally.
It's like a kind of religion.
The vaccine supporters seem to have a religious obeisance to it.
You know, they will do whatever is told to them by politicians who know nothing about health and who are always...
Always open to corruption.
I love what Jefferson said, which is, you know, the politicians must always fear the people.
The people should never fear the politicians.
So here you had these corrupted politicians putting the fear of dying en masse into the population.
We had someone very plausible who did it with a smile and all the head shakes and all the nauseating insincerity that Jacinda Ardern had.
And then, on top of that, threatening, you'll lose your jobs, coercing, you must have it if you want to earn a living.
You know, it's just, if you want to go to a concert, if you want, she said, if you want to get a haircut, if you want to go to the gym, if you want to go to a concert, get the jab.
Total coercion.
And no ethics at all.
We must now say, The people must rise up together and say no more.
And how we wake up a population, part of whom are still believing the mainstream media, all I can do is return to that call.
Mainstream media journalists, if it is weighing hard on your soul, if you have a soul, on your heart, on your moral code, give up that job in mainstream.
Stop reporting the lies and come over on this side and say, I know there are people being...
Vastly injured and dying early in New Zealand.
Don't do that job anymore for the government.
Exactly.
Well stated.
Liz, I just want to thank you for what you're doing.
I mean, you are a true hero of New Zealand from my perspective and I know people all around the world have been really moved by what you're doing.
You're providing an incredible service and I believe that your service and Barry's service will also be recognized in time.
Thank you, Mike.
I don't do it for that.
I just put out a call every day to all the others who come up to me and say thank you.
I say, you're doing your part.
Everyone who stands against this is equal, in my eyes, an equal hero.
There is a strong word that we all need to say, and it's this.
No, when they try to bully us.
No, when they try to come after the good man, Barry, and put him in jail.
No.
So please do help if you can donate.
To Barry's legal fund, nzloyal.org.nz and just put it on their WB for whistleblower.
And Westpac Bank in New Zealand, if you want to write to them and say don't bully on behalf of the government, we have a right to collect these funds for this good man and to make sure he has all the legal representation so that he does walk free and we all celebrate the new world he envisages.
Thanks, Mike.
Well stated.
Again, I'm showing the website and just click the donate button at the top, folks, and then you can offer donation.
When you do that, enter WB for whistleblower so that these funds go directly to the legal defense.
Of Barry Young, and Liz, I would hope that you could give us updates from time to time about Barry's situation, because again, I'm committed to making sure that this stays on the radar all over the world.
What Barry has done, it is a pivotal moment, I believe, in humanity's revolt against the slaughter.
And Barry is a hero for humanity, and he should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, as far as I'm concerned, at this point, for what he has done.
But I have just a personal question, if you don't mind me asking.
The earrings that you're wearing, do those resonate or reflect, like, indigenous artwork or Maori art of any kind, or what is that?
Possibly, although they're made by a European woman who gets wood, and she...
They're based on beautiful bird feathers and the patterns of our New Zealand bird feathers.
I'm glad you noticed them.
Well, a lot of the indigenous artwork from both New Zealand and Australia has a black background.
And then nature patterns often in yellow or gold or red on top of black.
And it looked like that to me.
That's really lovely.
I'm about to put out an interview with her on NZ Loyal.
So people will be able to go on her website and buy them.
Oh, that's great.
That's really lovely.
Mike, what a delight talking to you.
And yes to doing catch-ups.
Certainly I'll keep you updated.
And yes to good, winning over evil.
You make me want to come to Texas.
If Texans are all this good, I want to come there and investigate.
Well, you are always welcome in Texas.
All New Zealanders are welcome in Texas.
We have a very similar spirit.
And we have the best barbecue.
So...
Just a little bonus.
You'll get a run of Kiwis coming.
Thanks, Mike.
And you don't have to put away your firearms here in Texas.
You're actually required to display them as much as possible.
Getting back to the wise words of Jefferson, the politicians must always fear the people.
The people should never fear the politicians.
That's right.
Well, thank you, Liz.
Have a wonderful day.
Thank you, Mike.
Happy Christmas.
Okay, you too.
Take care.
And thank all of you for watching.
That was Liz Gunn there, just an extraordinary person and an incredible hero for humanity.
And Barry Young, the plight that he is going through right now, facing years in prison.
We hope that you can consider offering him support for his legal funds.
Again, the website, once again, is nzloyal.org.nz if you want to offer a donation there.
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