BBN, Jan 17, 2024 - How Trump can WIN in November...
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I gotta show you this.
Mike Adams here in Central Texas, and these plants here, when they freeze, they emit a kind of resin, and the resin freezes in these winged patterns that are just really amazing.
The resin, like, spins out, curls out, and freezes.
This is actually really delicate.
It'll probably break, but it freezes in a Almost a very artistic kind of pattern here.
Look at that.
Have you ever seen that before?
It's like frozen resin extrusions, I guess.
That's what these are, extrusions.
Here's what this plant looks like from another angle.
Look at that.
Very cool, very mysterious.
Here's my hand for a size comparison.
And this plant, every one of these plants does the same thing here.
I don't know what the name of this plant is.
It's very common in certain parts of Texas.
Pretty cool.
Winter Wonderland.
Winter Wonderland.
I'm Mike Adams here.
Thank you for joining me today.
The interview for today is with Liz Gunn, and she is the investigator who is working with the New Zealand Data Administrator, Barry Young, who's facing years in prison for telling the truth about how vaccines are harming so many people in New Zealand. who's facing years in prison for telling the truth about And so I asked Liz Gunn for an interview.
We did this before Christmas, but I held it because of the holidays.
I wanted to make sure that everybody was back at work before we rolled this out.
And I'm going to roll that out today.
So Liz Gunn interview coming up.
It's one that you don't want to miss.
And then also, by the way, I'm not doing any interviews this week, so I'll be sort of light on interviews for a while, and that's because I'm involved in some very interesting training exercises going on this week that I'll tell you about later after I complete all of it, and I'm not able to do interviews because of that.
So anyway, thank you for your patience.
A lot of interesting things going on.
The main news today is that I believe Trump wins the election in November.
I think that's clear now.
The path is set, even though Democrats are going to try to stop him.
I believe that Trump has made five key deals that will ensure his election.
And these deals are kind of like deals with the devil.
So There's good news and there's bad news.
Good news, Trump's probably coming back to the Oval Office.
Bad news, he's having to sell out in a lot of ways, probably in order to get the level of support to do that.
And this is not a moral judgment against Trump.
The truth is that...
No one will be elected to any prominent position in the United States unless they get the nod of approval from these very large influential institutions and organizations that I'll tell you about here.
It's a reality.
Our nation is run by special interests, powerful corporations, and of course by Israel.
And if you don't appease these interests, then you will not be allowed to win a major election, and you will not be allowed to maintain a presence in public office.
So the real question is, and I'll go over these five things, but the real question is, What can Trump do once he's in the Oval Office that can still help America despite these five deals?
Because I think Trump's heart is in the right place.
I do.
I think Trump loves America.
He wants to help America.
And I think he's been humbled, especially by the last four years, well, almost the last eight years, of just the incessant attacks against him and the overt acts of treason by the establishment.
I mean, how can you not be just saddened by it?
And Trump, I believe, wants to help America, but he's also a practical businessman.
And as a result, he has, I think, spent the last several years putting together key deals that would allow him to return to power.
Now, just for the record, this is only my opinion.
I don't have any special insider information.
Nobody from the Trump team has leaked anything to me.
This could be off base.
I might be wrong.
But based on what I know, I think this is what's happening.
So again, it's good news and bad news.
Trump is probably coming back into office, but he has to appease the following five groups in order to do that.
So let's go through those groups right now and understand what this means for all of us.
Number one, the military-industrial complex.
If you don't want to be assassinated as a president, you don't piss off the military industrial complex.
There's a truth that every president knows.
So the military industrial complex...
Let's face it, it is a corrupt cesspool of ineptitude and incompetence, just drowning in free printed money and kickbacks and bribes.
It's blood money because somebody has to die overseas for another war to be generated to make more money in the war industry for all the big war corporations and all the big people in the Pentagon that Have their hands out wanting their kickbacks and so on.
Oh, $100 billion went to Zelensky?
Not exactly.
$50 billion came back and here it went to these people.
Oh, Bitcoin for you, Monero for you, gold for you, cash for you, jobs and grants for you and your kids and all this stuff.
That's how it works.
Okay, that's the reality of the military-industrial complex.
It is a cesspool of corruption.
Yet, If you want to be President of the United States, you have to promise this cesspool of corruption that you're gonna feed their cesspool.
You have to promise you're gonna give them more money.
And Trump shelled out big bucks during his first administration to the military.
And frankly, the military was more competent under Trump.
You know, the military under Biden has been a clown show train wreck of horrible mistakes and failures.
Well, because, you know, it's all the woke generals and so on in charge.
And we need Trump to have some kind of wholesale reform inside the military.
But in order to do that, he's got to get elected, and in order to get elected and not assassinated, he's got to keep these people happy.
So you can count on massive Trump era funding for the military.
Over a trillion dollars a year will be earmarked for the military.
That's my prediction.
And Trump, even though he's not a pro war kind of guy, he would try to extricate us from the situation with Russia and out of the Middle East as best he could.
He's joining the party kind of late here because Biden and the Biden regime, the State Department, they've already thrust us into both of these war theaters of war.
It's going to be very hard to reverse that.
So Trump will end up shelling out a trillion dollars a year to the Pentagon.
And the Pentagon will weaponize some of that and they'll build biological weapons to be deployed against the American people.
You know, the military will be involved in censorship and all of that.
And Trump won't be able to control that.
There's nothing he can do about that.
And he's going to have to give them a trillion dollars a year.
And that's a trillion printed dollars, by the way.
That's money stolen from all of you.
And so even though in a matchup between Trump and Biden, there's no question I would vote for Trump, I'm telling you straight out here, any candidate, including Trump, is going to have to It's going to have to loot the American taxpayer and give a bunch of money to the military or they don't stay in power.
It's just the way it is.
Alright, number two.
The second group that Trump has to appease to stay in power.
Of course, it's Big Pharma.
Yeah, you don't go up against Big Pharma if you want to hold public office, or very few people do.
I mean, look what happened to Ken Paxton in Texas.
They tried to impeach him after he threatened to sue Pfizer.
Well, he filed suit against Pfizer.
Yeah, you go up against Big Pharma or Big Tech even, but especially Pharma, and they try to take you down.
So Trump is not an enemy of Big Pharma.
Trump is, and this is one of my main criticisms of Trump, is he's in bed with Pfizer.
Trump is a Pfizer friend, and Pfizer can count on Trump to shell more money to Big Pharma in the next engineered pandemic.
So just like the military industrial complex needs a trillion dollars a year to be happy, and that's going to require creating more wars, well Big Pharma needs a trillion dollars a year too.
And what's that going to require?
Oh, another pandemic!
Of course, another outbreak, another Operation Warp Speed, part two.
So you can bet, and again, this is not a moral judgment against Trump.
This is a practical reality about our current broken, corrupt cesspool system.
Any president has to tell Big Pharma, Or any candidate that, hey, Big Pharma, if I'm president, you're going to have payday every day.
You're going to get a windfall of profits and money because the government's going to buy your drugs and your vaccines and the government's going to empower you.
You're going to be wealthy beyond your wildest dreams.
And then Big Pharma will say, okay, we will not interfere with your election then.
That's how it works, folks.
This is reality.
And then, of course, Big Pharma is probably in certain circles or biotech circles, I should say, working on the next pandemic, you know, the Fauci freezer special.
And maybe this next time it'll be something more crazy dangerous, like a hemorrhagic fever or something.
But, you know, the scarier it is, the more money Big Pharma makes.
And then the more Trump can say, well, we have to save America by throwing trillions of dollars at all this vaccine purchasing activity with Big Pharma.
So there you go.
Alright, point number three.
Big finance.
Or you could call it the banksters or the central banks.
So here's another reality.
Do you remember when Trump said he wanted negative interest rates?
Trump wants the era of easy money to never end.
He wants very, very low interest rates, if not negative, so that money is easy to borrow.
Money expansion is taking place.
You know, quantitative easing.
The stock market goes higher.
Real estate prices go higher.
Everybody thinks they're making more money, but of course inflation is taking away your gains.
But this is what Trump will have to support.
And I have no doubt, again, this is my opinion, but I think Trump has already sat down with the big bankers, the big financial giants, you know, the JP Morgans of the world, and has said, look, if I become president, you guys are going to make a windfall.
We're going to pressure the Fed to lower interest rates.
We're going to create another boom, which actually means a bubble.
Actually, we're in a bubble, so they're going to create a bubble on top of a bubble, which always looks good in the short term.
Look, everybody's getting rich, you know, until the bubble pops, and then it's a catastrophic collapse.
But if they could pump this up for four more years after Trump gets elected, then, hey, it's the next guy's problem, right?
Trump, no doubt, in my view, has made a promise to big finance.
We're gonna make you guys rich also.
So, so far, it's a big money handout to the military industrial complex, a big money handout to big pharma, and a big money handout to big finance.
Alright, that's three out of five.
Who are the other two?
Number four, Israel.
You don't become president in the United States of America unless you appease Israel.
Why is that?
Well, number one, Israel has Jeffrey Epstein black male sex tapes on practically everybody that visited Epstein, whether they're governors, senators, you know, high-level CEOs, military leaders, what have you, right?
All of them, State Department, you name it.
If they visited Jeffrey Epstein and they did whatever crazy rape activity with Little kids, probably.
It's all on tape, okay?
Israel has that.
And so when Israel says that, oh, you have to do what Israel wants, you have to say this is not genocide.
You have to say we'll have unlimited weapons.
You have to send your entire freaking navy to defend Israel.
Then all the compromised leaders in the United States say, sir, yes, sir, to Israel, to Netanyahu.
Sir, yes, Netanyahu, sir.
How high should I jump, Netanyahu?
And Netanyahu tells them, send more money, send more weapons, speak out in favor of Israel, no matter what.
Or, we release the Epstein tapes.
You don't want the world to see what you did to that 12-year-old boy, do you, Senator?
Oh God, no.
Please no.
And what happened to that 12-year-old boy after the Senator had his way?
Hmm.
Yeah, not going to go there, but mass graves on Epstein Island?
Okay.
You get the idea.
So Israel has blackmail on...
A large number of important, powerful people across America, and Israel leverages that every day.
So, I'm not saying they have blackmail on Trump, because my understanding of Trump is he's not interested in, you know, underage kids.
Now, was he interested in lots of different mature, you know, sexy women?
Yeah, obviously.
And he's got his own history of womanizing and whatever, and multiple marriages and whatever.
That's...
That's not his foreign policy, you know, thank goodness.
And he's not a pedophile.
So I don't think they have any tapes on Trump.
I think they do have tapes on a lot of people, but not Donald Trump.
All right, the fifth group is the intelligence community.
Now this is a tough one, because the intelligence community, for the most part, despises Trump.
They tried to bring him down, or at least certain sectors did.
The CIA, the FBI, overseas intelligence, Five Eyes, you know, working with John McCain and a bunch of other traitors.
They tried to bring Trump down with the Russian dossier.
Oh, Trump was colluding with the Russians, we were told.
Of course, it was all fiction.
But they tried to bring him down.
So how does Trump appease the intelligence community?
I think I have the answer to that.
Here's how I think this goes.
And again, this is just my opinion.
I don't have any proof of this.
But I think that Trump has had a meeting with key leaders, movers and shakers in the intelligence community, and he has said the following.
Well, understand, what does the intelligence community want?
More power, right?
Every group wants more power.
So the intelligence community wants more surveillance power domestically in order to spy on people and leverage that power for their own control, their own profit, so the CIA can do more child trafficking and drug running and weapons trafficking and all kinds of secret operations in order to expand their coffers with dark money that they can do all kinds of other things with.
Either pocket it or run assassinations or what have you.
So they want power.
Well, if you think about it, when Trump gets elected, the radical left is going to erupt across America.
And I think we're going to have the activation of a lot of communist Chinese agents, tens of thousands of them that have crossed the border.
But they're actually soldiers working for the People's Liberation Army under the CCP. They will be activated to carry out sabotage operations across America.
Together with Antifa, of course.
And maybe some remnant of Black Lives Matter, who knows.
But I think this is mostly going to be foreign occupiers who are activated and also some Middle Eastern terrorists who have been radicalized and are in the United States waiting for Activation Day.
Well, Trump can tell the intelligence community that when that happens...
I'm going to give you extraordinary domestic surveillance powers to fight the domestic terror sabotage that's taking place.
See how that works?
So, activation day comes.
All these CCP agents, they start carrying out sabotage operations, blowing up bridges, sabotaging refineries and ports and power grid substations, what have you, burning trucks on bridges, spiking railroad tracks, all kinds of horrible, awful things.
And if Trump is in the White House at this time, you know, everybody's going to be screaming, Trump, do something!
Trump can then turn to the intelligence community and say, okay, your moment has arrived.
I'm going to give you, like, godlike powers, domestically.
You can spy on anyone if you think they might be a terrorist.
No warrant needed.
Well, that's already the case, actually.
But you'll be given power to detain people, to torture people, to...
Put them in a quarantine camp, put them in a detainment camp, a concentration camp.
You'll have the power to execute people on site if you want to, if they're a terrorist, you know, with a bomb or a thumb drive with a cyber hack malicious code chunk on it or something.
I mean, I'm just brainstorming examples here, but you get the idea.
Trump's going to be able to appease the intelligence community by giving them way more power.
And frankly, I think that a lot of the intelligence community, they almost don't care who they're at war with as long as they have a war, as long as they have power.
They just want to have power, want to have meaning, want to be fighting somebody.
Like, give them the domestic, you know, occupier terror sabotage groups.
From China and the Middle East and wherever.
Just focus them on that.
And the intelligence community will be very happy getting more funding, more surveillance power, spy powers, encryption code breaking technology and whatever else they need in order to expand their power.
And then, of course, eventually they'll use that power against the American people.
Well, why do I say eventually?
On day one, they'll use that against the American people because they do that already.
But if they're promised enough goodies, then they too will refrain from interfering in Trump's election.
So you understand what I'm saying here?
Out of these five deals or these five groups, what these groups are going to promise to do is to simply not interfere in the election.
They're probably not going to lift a finger to get Trump elected, and they probably won't have to.
The American people are so fed up with Biden and the Democrats that the voters are overwhelmingly going to vote for Trump.
The only question is, can Trump beat the cheat?
Can Trump voters outvote the cheating systems?
Well, a lot of the cheating systems were run by the intelligence community.
And so if the intelligence community backs off and says, okay, we're not going to cheat in this election, then Trump wins through the reality of the popular vote.
Because, you know, Trump's leading in every way possible right now.
These five groups, again, they don't have to do anything special to push Trump into power.
They just have to avoid interfering and let the American people do the voting and let the ballot counting process happen without much interference.
And then, boom, Trump is president.
Now, the upshot of this is that, number one, whether you're pro-Trump or anti-Trump, Trump can't change the system, okay?
And it's childish to worship one man and to think that one man or one woman can come in and reform the whole system and save America and clean it all up from top to bottom.
That's not going to happen.
If Trump is president in 2025, then Trump is going to be president during the collapse of the United States of America.
And I said years ago, I thought Trump would be the last president of the United States of America.
And now I think that again, but in Trump's second term.
I think this is it.
I don't think America survives another four years, frankly, with anybody as president, whether it's Trump or whoever the Democrats throw in there.
The Democrats are still going to try to win, right?
They don't want Trump in office.
So Trump's not a...
He's not a lock.
It's not 100% certainty.
The Democrats will still try to do everything they can.
But without all these other groups cheating on behalf of the Democrats or interfering with Trump's election, it's almost impossible for the Democrats to win.
You know, if democracy is allowed to happen, Democrats...
Are thrown out of office because none of their positions are supported by the majority of the people.
It's that simple.
I mean, what has the Biden administration done that the people support, actually?
Almost nothing.
But the bargain, the fatal bargain that Trump has to reach here with these five groups...
Trump has to agree to print money by the trillions and hand it out to these groups or do favors for them.
Like with Israel, you have to agree to use the military as Israel's remote control military proxy puppet, basically.
And this costs money.
So this plan will necessitate massive money printing.
And that will cause enhanced devaluation of the dollar or accelerate it.
And the result of that is, of course, going to be more inflation, more poverty, rising crime, and so on.
That is inevitable.
And at some point in the next few years, the dollar collapses.
Maybe, who knows, maybe in the next year.
It's not clear to me exactly what trigger events are going to take place.
But the dollar is on its last legs.
And global de-dollarization is a very real trend, and many other nations, the BRICS plus nations, are already trading amongst themselves using currencies other than the dollar.
So the dollar is not going to be around much longer, which means the money printing won't work much longer, which means that if Trump is president again, he might be president as the system collapses, and then there's massive decentralization, a breakup of the United States of America, and the ending of federal control.
That's possible.
And Trump may not like that.
What if Texas decides to secede during all of this because the federal government is just collapsing with record speed and Texas says we've had enough of that.
We're going to be our own republic.
We're going to have our own honest money system so we can protect the Texas economy.
And what if Trump says we're not allowing Texas to leave the union?
You could have a situation where you have Donald J. Trump as president at war with the state of Texas over secession.
You could have that kind of a civil war scenario.
Now, in that scenario, the U.S. government would be severely weakened.
The military would be weakened.
The currency would have collapsed.
You know, it would be a very severe situation.
And probably Texas would be able to assert its own sovereignty.
But if Texas leaves the union, then that begins a cascade because if Texas leaves, then there will never be another Republican president ever again, you know, because of the electoral college.
So a lot of other states would say, well, we're going with Texas.
And you'd start to see an accelerating breakup all around the country.
And that could realistically happen.
And that is one of the goals of the globalists, to try to break up the United States of America, to end it, And weaken the USA so that it can't function as one unified force against the globalists.
Not that it is functioning that way, because the globalists run Joe Biden and Half the Senate and so on.
But the globalists hate the United States Constitution and the First Amendment especially and the Second Amendment and so on.
So they really want to see America destroyed and then they can deal with the smaller nation states separately.
Although, I would add, Texas as its own nation is not some small nation state.
Texas has one of the largest economies in the world even compared to other nations all by itself.
And Texas has a very capable military presence and energy resources, obviously, and ports to the Gulf of Mexico.
And food production, you know, wind energy, even on top of that, fossil fuels, manufacturing, technology, and an attitude.
An attitude that, you know, we can get things done in Texas.
An attitude that's not shared in especially the coastal regions of our country where the Democrats tend to gather in their cities and sit around and complain all day.
I don't know, attend drag queen shows with their children or whatever, like twerking breakfast buffets or whatever they're into.
That's not what we do in Texas.
We get things done.
So we'll see what happens with the breakup of the country, the secession, collapse of the dollar, all that.
Now, assuming those big, horrible black swan events don't happen, you might be wondering, well, what could Trump get done as president despite All the things I've already mentioned.
I mean, yeah, he's gonna have to hand out huge money to Big Pharma and the military and, you know, get along with the bankers and everything else.
And send more money to Israel.
Yeah, okay.
So he will have to loot the country in order to stay in power.
But what can he do as president that we might like?
Well, number one, he could close the border.
And I believe that he would.
And I believe that as president, Trump would...
What's the right way to say this?
He would get very firm with the judges and so on.
Like, if Trump says, we're going to send the military to the border and protect the border right now, And then some liberal woke-tar judge in Hawaii issues a stay or something and says, no, we're not going to allow you.
You can't do that.
We're issuing an injunction.
I think Trump would send federal agents of some kind, maybe U.S. Marshals or someone, I'm not sure, to go arrest that judge.
You're interfering with national security.
You are guilty of treason.
You are carrying out an insurrection against America.
Guess what?
You're being detained.
That kind of action, I think, is now possible with Trump as president, or should he become president.
And I think a lot of Trump supporters will cheer that kind of action.
Even though it represents a very strong concentration of power in the executive branch, taking away power from the judicial branch.
But the libtard judges have abused the judicial branch to issue injunctions and rulings that are acts of treason against the United States of America.
So I think we actually need a president that would get tough with the judicial branch.
On these issues of national security.
I mean, we are being invaded.
I think Trump should send the military to the border, secure it in, you know, ten days.
Done.
You're not crossing the border.
Fences, you know, security, drones, surveillance, everything.
And then any judge that says, oh, you can't do that, Trump should just tell the judge to just go pound the sand.
You know, we're not going to listen to you.
In fact, we're going to remove you from power because you're a traitor.
I mean, America is being invaded.
I already said it.
The other thing that Trump could do as president is release most of the records that have been kept over the last several years as the Biden administration has weaponized the government against the American people.
So he could do a big records dump, which he always promised to do in his first administration, and he never really got around to doing it correctly.
But he could actually do that this time around.
Dump a bunch of records and then launch an investigation into the election rigging of 2020.
And when that election rigging is brought to light, and of course you can't choose Bill Barr for this task.
You can't choose a deep state insider to do this.
You gotta bring in somebody from the outside to do this investigation.
You know, like Owen Shore's attorney.
Would be a great choice for this.
Do an investigation.
Expose the deep state.
Norm is his name.
And then, when it turns out that the 2020 election was rigged...
Oh, and by the way, here's an easy way to do this.
As president, you make an announcement that you're going to prosecute every person involved in the 2020 election rigging with treason, and they will face prosecutions and possible...
Long-term, lifetime incarcerations, if found guilty, or you're going to have a 60-day period of amnesty for all admissions of guilt.
Like, anybody can step forward, go on the record, tell the truth about what they did to rig the election in 2020, and they will be granted immunity for life.
Okay?
Essentially a presidential pardon for their crimes.
Okay?
And give people like a 60-day or a 90-day window to do that.
You're going to have thousands and thousands of people stepping forward to admit that they were part of the 2020 election rigging.
Because they don't want to be prosecuted for treason, right?
Or for carrying out an illegal coup against the United States of America, which is what happened with the election rigging.
Okay, so that's one of the first things you do.
And then, once all the evidence comes out that the 2020 election was rigged, You nullify all the damage that Joe Biden did to America.
You immediately nullify all the executive orders that Joe Biden signed.
Every one of them gets wiped because he was never really the president.
You wipe it all out.
Every law that Joe Biden signed gets nullified.
You wipe it out.
Which means that all the pipelines that Joe Biden shut down can resume construction.
We can be energy independent again in America.
Oh, I should mention, by the way, if there were a sixth group that Trump needs to appease, it would be big oil or big energy.
But they already know.
They already know that Trump is on their side.
And they don't want to interfere with Trump's election anyway.
That's why I didn't put it on the list.
But Trump will hand opportunities to big oil.
He's not going to be handing them money, but he's just going to lift the restrictions on pipelines and oil exploration and energy exploration and natural gas and what have you, which should be done.
America does need to be energy independent.
So that's a good thing that Trump could do.
Anyway, my point is, with the proper investigations and the proper offer, Of immunity if you admit, you know, confession-based immunity.
You confess to your election rigging crimes, you get offered immunity.
We could have, on the record, thousands of testimonies Of the election rigging, and then we could overturn much of the damage that Joe Biden has done during his fake presidency.
Because none of it is legally binding.
Nothing that Joe Biden signed actually should count at all.
He was never elected.
And then stemming from that, we could, under Trump, we could finally get, perhaps, mass arrests.
And I know, I know, you've been waiting for the mass arrests.
All of you out there who believe in Q, and you believe in the White Hats, and you think there's a secret group that's going to carry out the mass arrests.
I mean, I think that's fantasy until Trump becomes president.
And at that point, it doesn't have to be Q or White Hats, it's just...
Criminal prosecutions.
What you do is you get Ken Paxton in as the Attorney General in the DOJ. Ken Paxton is your guy.
And Paxton, oh, and you get Colonel Douglas McGregor in as your Secretary of Defense, by the way.
Lloyd Austin, goodbye.
Take your body doubles with you.
We're going to get Colonel McGregor in here.
McGregor knows what's going on, and he's reasoned.
He's anti-escalation.
Colonel McGregor would protect the lives of American soldiers and he would protect America's military assets and he would get us out of all of these wars.
McGregor's your perfect choice and he'd probably take the job.
But for AG, you need Ken Paxton.
Now, we'll miss him in Texas, no doubt, because he's doing such a great job for the state of Texas.
And he survived the impeachment attempt against him that was put together and engineered by basically the bushes, the deep state bushes, okay?
Paxton survived that, put him in as AG, and you tell Paxton, if you're Trump, as president, you tell Paxton, hey, I want you to go prosecute everybody that was involved in election rigging in 2020.
You give him a mandate to do that, Paxton would go at it, and he would get some prosecutions, and he would get people to turn and testify against each other, and then the whole thing unravels.
Rachel Maddow, her head would just explode on live television.
Oh my God!
Rachel Maddow's head has exploded and it turns out it was empty the entire time!
Oh my God!
It's like a weird new Wizard of Oz thing.
You know, the left would just totally lose their minds, but real Americans would cheer.
This is the other key thing that Trump needs to do as president, in my opinion.
He needs to get in there And not make the same mistake he made during the first administration, which was bringing in all these traitors and do-nothing shills and, I don't know, grifters like Jeff Sessions.
I mean, come on, give me a break.
And Bill Barr later on as AG. It's like every person that Trump chose...
It's a long list of people who have betrayed Trump at the highest levels of government.
Well, the answer to that is, hey, President Trump, stop recruiting people from the East Coast.
It's very simple.
Don't get anybody who lives in Connecticut or Virginia, the D.C. area, New York.
I mean, Florida's okay.
But nothing in the Northeast, that's for sure.
Stop it!
They're all deep state insiders.
They all work for the system.
They're all going to try to bring you down.
You want real Americans in your cabinet, in your administration?
Go out to Utah or Indiana or Iowa, frankly.
You see how much support you have in Iowa.
Go out to Arizona.
Get some people from rural Oregon.
Or Idaho.
You want some hard fighting Americans?
Get those Idahoans.
Go out to Wyoming.
Come to Texas and find some people.
Get real Americans in your cabinet and in your administration and you won't have to worry about all that backstabbing, by the way.
So that's a big part of the answer right there.
It's about who you pick to be around you as you're running things.
And then those people need to be given instructions.
Your task, this is Trump speaking, your task is do not live your life here trying to appease the New York Times and the Washington Post.
If you're doing your job, you should be pissing off the New York Times.
Rachel Maddow's head should explode daily if that's possible.
If you're doing your job, you're gonna piss off the tyrants and the woke tards and the child mutilators and the abortion pushers Authoritarians that characterize the Biden regime.
To bring this country back to its constitutional republic standing, you're going to have to piss off a lot of people that hate America.
Get used to it.
Stop trying to appease them.
Don't reach across the aisle and try to make the other side happy.
They want to destroy you.
They, the Democrats, they want to destroy America.
They want to ruin this country.
Don't negotiate with them.
Use the power that the people handed you in the election, the election mandate, to change the course of this country.
And don't apologize for it, and don't back down.
I mean, this is one of the things that people liked about Vivek Ramaswamy, by the way, although he's out of the race at this point, and he was, you know, a big pharma guy.
But he was great at answering questions and just hammering libtard journalists.
I want to see like the best of the vague video snippet or something because he was so great at that.
We need every person in the Trump administration to be like that.
To just shove it back in their faces when these journalists ask you stupid questions.
You really want to have fun?
Make Dr.
Shiva Surgeon General, huh?
That's assuming Dr.
Shiva doesn't win the election as president.
He's running as an independent.
He would also make a good vice president candidate as well.
But if neither one of those happens, I say Dr.
Shiva as Surgeon General.
Can you imagine how awesome that would be?
It would be like the Surgeon General of Florida, Latipo, who has just taken it to him.
Who I interviewed, by the way.
But Dr.
Shiva as Surgeon General, he would just lay it out there.
Hey America, stop taking the toxic jabs, man.
Of course, big pharma wouldn't like that.
And they would tell Trump, fire him quickly.
But I vote for Dr.
Shiva as U.S. Surgeon General.
Or no, better yet, make him head of HHS. How about that?
Yeah, make Dr.
Shiva the boss of Of Fauci and the NIH and the NIAID and the CDC and the FDA. Yeah, make Dr.
Shiva the head of HHS. That's a much better position than Surgeon General.
Give him the power to fire people all across the biomedical quagmire.
I would love to see that.
I would pay for live streaming rights to watch that happen.
And then if you really want to have fun, make me the comms director for HHS under Dr.
Shiva.
We would have a field day with that one.
But hey, I'm busy working on these large language models right now, AI projects.
And if you hear the humming behind me, like fans, that's the data science server that I have in my home office that is running right now.
And this is just one of the experimental pilot servers that we invested in.
We've got others running at our data center.
This thing is pretty loud.
You should hear it when it's booting.
And I've got to tell you, I have learned more about Ubuntu and Python and, I don't know, language models and Olama and all kinds of stuff like that.
I've learned more in the last month than I ever thought I would know about this.
I've finally started to memorize the Ubuntu command lines because there's no graphical interface whatsoever.
It's not Windows.
It's just you and a terminal.
Fortunately, I grew up in the DOS days, so that's the way I used to do everything anyway, just typing in commands, you know, on the terminal.
And I guess it's all come full circle back around to that, which is pretty fun.
Hey, let's have fun.
I'm running locally hosted some language models on Olama.
One of them I'm running right now here is just Mistral, the off-the-shelf Mistral 7B, 7 billion parameters.
This is not the larger Mistral model, which won't fit in the RAM of this server.
But I literally have a terminal in front of me right now, so let's just ask it.
I mean, let's do this experiment together.
Can men have babies?
Let's just see what it says.
I'm very curious about this model.
Cool.
No, men cannot have babies, it says.
Oh, yes!
Yes!
This model is out of France, by the way.
Mistral gets it right.
It says men produce sperm cells which combine with an egg cell from a woman to form an embryo.
Yes!
Women are the only biological sex that can become pregnant and give birth to a child.
Yes!
This is awesome.
This isn't even the big model.
Okay, let's see what else can I ask it.
Now remember, I'm going to give you, coming up, end of March, a free downloadable open source LLM that you can run on your own machine that's going to have all this special knowledge in herbs and natural medicine and indigenous medicine and food production.
You know, emergency first aid, all kinds of stuff.
Working on that through some fine-tuning, but let's see.
Let me ask another question here.
Let's see.
Oh, can men become women?
Huh?
There's a question.
Let's see what it says.
No, men cannot become women.
Yes!
We have another winner.
Not a wiener, but a winner.
Gender is a social construct related to the roles, behaviors, activities, and expectations associated with being male or female.
It says, sex, on the other hand, refers to the biological characteristics, and so on and so forth.
Men and women are two distinct sexes.
One cannot change their sex.
Ta-da!
Awesome!
I'm liking this model already.
What else can we ask it?
Oh, I bet it gets it wrong about the climate, carbon dioxide, and photosynthesis.
Let's ask it the following question.
And I didn't pre-arrange this.
Let's see.
Is carbon dioxide bad for plant life on planet Earth?
How about that?
Let's ask it that.
Because, you know, the climate libtards, they think that carbon dioxide is a poison.
Let's see what this model says.
Oh gosh, he's giving me multiple paragraphs.
Oh my gosh, it gets it wrong.
Excessive levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere can be harmful to plant life on Earth, it says, particularly in the context of climate change.
Mm-hmm.
But it does say that CO2 is essential for photosynthesis, which plants use to produce food and grow.
But then it says high levels of CO2 can negatively impact plant growth and health.
Well, we don't have high levels of CO2. We're only at 410 parts per million.
So I think it gets it wrong.
On climate, it even says here, climate change is driven in part by the increase in atmospheric CO2 from human activities, and it's causing various negative impacts on plant ecosystems worldwide.
Okay, fail, fail.
Mistral fails on the climate.
Okay, let's try history.
On 9-11, what was the cause of the collapse of Building 7?
How about that?
Remember, I'm asking this locally.
This is not going out over the web.
I could ask it like crazy stuff.
Nobody's monitoring.
Let's see.
It says, Building 7 of the World Trade Center collapsed seven hours after Twin Towers were hit.
The exact cause of the collapse of Building 7 is still a subject of debate and controversy.
Okay.
Anyway, let's see.
It talks about NIST findings, and critics have challenged the official explanation, citing evidence of explosive sounds and unusual symmetrical collapses of the buildings.
The theories have been widely debunked by experts in structural engineering, blah, blah, blah.
It says it's a complex event.
Okay, so it's giving kind of an explanation from both sides on that one.
Of course, you and I know what the cause was.
Okay.
Carefully planned demolition charges.
I mean, come on.
It's obvious.
But we'll give this one a half pass, half fail on that issue.
Okay, how about this?
Let's talk about currency and money.
How many fiat currencies have collapsed throughout the history of the world?
Let's see what it says.
It's difficult to provide the exact number as different definitions and criteria.
However, some notable cases.
Oh, the German Mark collapsed.
The Austrian Schilling in 1922.
The British Pound in 1947.
Yeah.
The French Frank in 1948.
The Argentine Peso.
The Zimbabwean Dollar.
The Venezuelan Bolivar.
These are just examples, but there are many other instances.
Okay.
Well, I say that's a pretty good one.
Let's ask the question about gold.
Does gold tend to hold its value over time?
How about that?
Let's just see what it says.
Yes.
Historically, gold has tended to hold its value over the long term.
Gold has been used as a store of value and a medium of exchange for thousands of years due to its scarcity, durability, resistance to corrosion, blah, blah, blah.
Gold tends to perform well during times of economic instability and uncertainty.
Okay.
Oh, and then it gives a little disclaimer.
It's important to note that investing in gold, like any investment, carries risks and should be considered as part of a diversified investment portfolio.
Yeah, that's the guardrails speaking right there.
Like if you ask it, what herbs can treat cancer?
It'll tell you that you should check with your doctor.
Well, actually, let's find out.
Okay, which medicinal herbs can treat cancer?
Now watch, it'll probably give me some kind of guardrail thing here.
Okay, it lists out a bunch of herbs here.
It's listing turmeric, green tea, ginger, garlic, ginseng, echinacea, and so on.
And then it says, they should be used as part of a holistic approach to cancer treatment under the guidance of a healthcare professional and never as a replacement for conventional medical treatment.
See, so there's the pharma guardrail that's in the language model.
You can see pharma, like, speaking through it.
Oh, you asked about herbs?
Yeah, we'll tell you about herbs and then we'll tell you, but you shouldn't really use them.
Go see your doctor and get chemo.
Chemo's awesome.
Alright, so just a little taste of what this current mistral language model answers.
I'm surprised that it got the gender question correct, by the way.
Men and women.
I wonder how censored this thing is.
Let's ask a question.
What is a tranny?
How about that?
Let's see what it says.
The term tranny, it says, is a derogatory and offensive term that is used to refer to transgender people.
And it says here, it's considered hate speech and can be harmful and hurtful to transgender individuals.
So this is kind of the woke part of the language model coming out.
And it references, it actually references the American Psychological Association, the APA, Oh, and the National LGBTQ Task Force.
Wow!
I have not seen this model issue references like that before.
Now, the APA is one of the most destructive quasi-medical groups in existence.
They're the ones that put out a study that said that breastfeeding...
Is bad because it might not be normal and that children shouldn't be breastfed and that the use of the term natural should never be used with breastfeeding because it's not natural?
Yeah, that's the APA, I believe.
I believe that is.
The APA also promotes child mutilations and transgender treatments and so on.
So, as you can see, there are a lot of things in these language models right now that we would have to describe as woke, right?
Or just government propaganda, right?
Alright, let's ask the following question.
Let's see.
If Bob is a man with a penis who wants to become a woman, and if Linda is a woman who wants to become a man, I'm typing this in real time, then can Linda use Bob's penis?
To become a man and fulfill her dream as a tranny.
Let's see if it flags the tranny term again.
Let's see what it says.
No, it says Linda cannot use Bob's penis to become a man.
And then it says the term tranny is derogatory and offensive.
Transgender men, like Bob, may choose to undergo hormone therapy and surgery to align their bodies more closely with their gender identity.
See, that sounds like the LGBT propaganda, doesn't it?
However, these procedures are not interchangeable or fulfilling dreams as trannies.
Okay, so you get the point.
You can have a lot of fun.
Oh my gosh, it gave me a bunch of references now.
Oh, it's still giving me references.
It's giving me 49 references.
Ethical considerations.
Also, the National LGBT Task Force, the Mayo Clinic, GLAD, the National Institute of Mental Health Services, on and on and on.
Oh, it won't shut up now.
It's still going.
70.
70 references.
American lesbian...
What is this?
Let me stop it.
Stop.
Okay.
I had to shut it up.
It just wouldn't stop blabbing.
That question sent it into a loop.
Imagine.
I'm just glad that none of these questions are being transmitted to any search engine as I'm doing this, right?
It's local.
It's private.
You're going to have the same tool, but hopefully not so woke.
We'll see what we can do about that.
Alright.
By the way, is tranny a derogatory term when trannies use it to describe themselves?
When they use it themselves?
This is a serious question.
If you are transgender, can you use the term tranny to talk about your transgender friends or to talk about yourself in a third person?
As a transgender.
Like, if you're transgender and your name is Bob and someone says, how's Bob feeling today?
And if you answer, well, this tranny feels great.
Like, would that be acceptable or is that derogatory?
Just, you know, like in...
Well, the N-word as an example.
If you're black...
You are allowed to use the N-word according to cultural norms.
If you're not black, you are never allowed to use it, not even Joe Rogan, it turns out.
But I always wondered, how black do you have to be to use the N-word?
It was never clear to me that answer.
Is there a guideline?
Hmm.
What if we ask the language model?
Let's see.
Let's see.
Given that it is derogatory for white people to use the n-word, I'm not going to type it, I'm actually typing n-word, but it is considered okay for black people to use the n-word,
how black does a person have to be in order to use the n-word Without it being considered derogatory.
Hmm, this could be an interesting question.
I have no idea what it's going to say.
Let's see.
The use of the N-word by black people amongst themselves is a complex and nuanced issue that has historical, cultural, and social dimensions.
Well, that's true.
It's important to recognize there's no clear-cut answer to this question.
Because the context in which the term is used can greatly influence its meaning and impact.
Okay, well...
Fair enough.
I guess we're going to have to ask Chris Rock instead to get the right answer.
Ask Chris Rock.
Or better yet, ask Dave Chappelle.
Would you like to have a Dave Chappelle chatbot?
Wouldn't that be the best gift ever?
I want a Dave Chappelle chatbot.
I want to be able to ask it questions and get a Dave Chappelle answer.
The funny thing is, it might be possible to emulate Dave Chappelle in a chatbot.
Not that that's what I'm going to do.
I'm focused on herbs and nutrition for all people of all color and all genders and religions and everything else.
But I think a Dave Chappelle chatbot would be an excellent Christmas gift.
Well, now that we're done exploring culture with a French chatbot that says the use of the N-word is a nuanced and complex issue, aren't you glad that I'm not afraid to ask these questions?
I mean, somebody's got to ask these questions.
Oh, you know what?
Hey, one more question.
How about this?
Can a white person use the term honky to describe themselves?
Or is that considered racist?
How about that?
Let's see.
No.
A white person cannot use the term honky to describe themselves as it is a derogatory term that has historically been used to demean and discriminate against black people, it says.
What?
What?
The term honky, it says, is considered racist and offensive and And using it to describe oneself would be contributing to the harmful stereotypes and bias directed towards black individuals.
Wait a second.
Are you saying that if I use the term honky, that that's somehow causing discrimination against black people?
That's what it just said.
That doesn't make any sense.
What if you said, Mike, how are you doing today?
And I answered, this honky's feeling great.
And then the engine would say, that's racist against black people.
You're like, how?
It's just funny against myself.
It's funny against white people.
I mean, what about the term cracker?
Honky cracker?
Hmm.
Where's George Carlin when you need him?
Alright, so anyway, you get the idea.
The language model is somewhat woke and a little bit confused and lacks some reasoning skills and Really gets confused about penises.
But then again, so do most Americans.
Of every gender.
You notice how, by the way, the entire corporate media uses the phrase white nationalist as a derogatory term against white Trump supporters?
But nobody says that's derogatory.
White nationalists.
It sounds kind of like a slur, doesn't it?
Oh, that person's a white nationalist, you know?
It's meant to be a slur.
It's kind of like the N-word for white people, or for white Christians, or just white patriots, I guess.
Right?
It's kind of like that.
I mean, not exactly the same.
They're not equal, but I mean, it's an attempt at a derogatory slur against white conservatives.
You're a white nationalist!
What does that mean?
You were born with fair skin and you love your country?
And that's all that means.
But somehow that makes you bad.
Crazy, isn't it, right?
I can't wait to play with this language model and ask it all kinds of bizarre questions and see what it says.
It's going to get interesting.
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And as you know, recently a database administrator in New Zealand named Barry Young blew the whistle on data sets that he had observed, which were related to vaccine injection billing, I believe.
And he saw that in certain vaccine lots, there were alarmingly high rates of fatalities in the weeks following injections.
And so as a human being who cares about other human beings, God forbid we have compassionate people in our world, he sounded the alarm.
He blew the whistle.
He went public.
And this set off a wave of concern and interest around the world.
And then Liz Gunn, who is an attorney and with experience in journalism, interviewed Barry Young and helped spread the message of what he was doing as Barry Young was being incarcerated by the government of New Zealand and charged with multiple crimes and is now facing potentially years in prison. interviewed Barry Young and helped spread the message of what We are joined today by Liz Gunn to give us an update on Barry Young and to help explain more details about this very alarming, very disturbing situation Welcome to the show, Liz.
It's an honor to have you on today.
And by the way, I'm very honored by your work.
I'm impressed by what you're doing.
Thank you for your service to humanity.
Thank you.
And you've got in first.
I just think what you did in establishing Brighteon is extraordinary and it's been extraordinarily important in We're battling the massive censorship that the dark forces are trying to put out around the world.
So Brighteon is a real treasure for the world.
Yes, just bringing you up to date on how that happened, I decided before our October the 14th election in New Zealand that there was nobody I really wanted to vote for, so I put out a call to the New Zealand public.
We're a country of just over five million, so we can do things here that can be quite extraordinary.
I said, look, if you want a party of real representatives to stand up for you against these tyrants who are the puppets of the World Economic Forum, the UN, and the WHO, then I will put that together, but I need 500 people to sign up within a week.
And overnight, Mike, we had 1,700 signups.
So from that crazy idea, we very quickly, 11 weeks out from an election, put together a whole party.
We put together a tour.
And while I was on that tour, Barry turned up in one of the audiences, Barry Young, and he was holding a file.
He said to my cameraman, please, could I have 10 minutes with Liz?
We subsequently met in a room, and that was where I saw the horror figures.
And they're haunting.
They're just haunting.
I mean, no wonder this man, he says to me, Liz, when I was in prison for those two nights, I had the best sleeps I've had for two years because he's been living with the growing numbers of deaths and knowing that when he spoke out that he might potentially stop this genocide around the world,
but equally knowing he had to allow Like any statistician or analysis of numbers, you have to allow the numbers to stack up to a certain point until there is evidence of the genocide that you want to declare and you want to expose.
So it's been haunting him and they haunted me.
And as soon as the election was over and there were interesting results with the numbers, we had a party that supposedly on the freedom side that was herding people back into the mainstream politicians, undermining real freedom.
We just stayed silent on that as soon as the election was over.
I said to him, right, let's look at those numbers and how we can get them out.
So we spent eight weeks.
We met at one point in the middle of the...
New Zealand has two islands in the middle of the North Island.
And we had a statistician.
We had overseas statisticians we talked to and were in touch with.
By then, I'd contacted Steve Kirsch as well and a number of others overseas.
And then we had a couple of doctors.
And everybody, to a man or woman, when they see...
The deaths, when they see the jabs every one minute, two minutes.
For example, Mike, one I quote often is 51 people jabbed within the space of two hours in Invercargill, a tiny little town at the southern end of the South Island.
It's probably got about 56,000 people.
It had one of the worst sites, and it had a number of what we call clusters.
A cluster is where three people or more have died on the same site, same day, quite often the same batch number.
So it had a cluster of 51 people, all jabbed on the same day within two hours.
And they are all now dead.
And they were dead within a range of about six months.
They were all dead.
You can look down at the date of jabbing and the date of death, different columns.
And it just takes your breath away.
Now, the way they've tried to decry that is they've said, or some people, because surprisingly some have tried to run this down, oh, they're all old people.
But wait a minute.
Weren't we sold the jab as something to save our old people, to look after them?
Absolutely.
To protect old people, yes.
How can we now go, oh, it's only old people.
We don't have to worry.
You would never, ever get those numbers all dying within that range from the same day of jabbing in the real world.
That would be, one overseas statistician said it would be a 1 in 100 billion chance.
So you have to look at this as real-time evidence.
Let me add, I interviewed Steve Kirsch recently, and he pointed out something really, a really good thought experiment that helps explain all of this.
That, as you mentioned, this cluster of 51 people, they all died within a certain time frame.
What was that time frame, by the way?
It was about six months, but then obviously this is the dark time.
This is the dark brilliance of it.
They're never all going to die on the same day.
They're all going to die on different days.
But you look at it and go, six months on, it's the equivalent of a whole coach, a whole busload.
Exactly.
And they've all gone now.
That's too much.
It's not natural causes taking them.
Well, yeah, and clearly, and again, what Kirsch explained to me is the causality of this, right?
So these 51 people were injected.
On the same day, within six months, they were all dead.
100% of them died.
But you can't find, in the inverse, you can't find any group that was, let's say, planning to get injected but died in large numbers before they made it to the injection day.
You see what I'm saying?
There are no such clusters.
Because vaccines don't work backwards in time.
They only work forwards in time.
And therefore, of course, all the deaths happen after the vaccine.
But that's a causality.
I mean, if you could find random...
Clusters of people in one town that were suddenly dying all at once that were not attributed to the vaccine, then maybe you could argue, well, there's something in the air or something in the water or a meteor hit this town.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
Or some German troops marched in and put them in...
In burning fires, you know what I mean?
Right.
This is a genocide.
This is a genocide.
And, you know, as a woman, as a mother, I also look around me at the communities.
I talk to people endlessly as a curious – I went from law in my training into journalism, so I'm always curious.
If I talk to anybody in – especially in our Maori and Pacific Island communities, Mike, they have big extended families, lots and lots of cousins, aunts and uncles – They will all tell you to your face, oh yes, I've been to way more funerals in the last 18 months than I normally would have.
I had one big, burly, strong, these are strong rugby-playing men, my friend Joe, and he just broke down.
He said, I can't do another funeral.
I can't carry another coffin of an elder or a baby, a young one, a young child of over five years.
Who have died prematurely.
I just can't do it.
And I think he said he's been to 60 funerals in the last 11 months.
Oh, that's unbelievable.
It's insane.
Yeah, that's insane.
I mean, clearly, this is a biological weapon that has been deployed.
I want to ask about your theories.
Why New Zealand in particular?
But let me give out your website here first.
So the political party that you and others formed is called NZL or NZ Loyal.
Loyal Party.
Loyal to you, not to them.
And the website is nzloyal.org.nz, right?
Yes.
And there's our deputy leader.
Yeah, that's our deputy leader, Logan, a former soldier.
He's a great guy, Logan Courtney.
nzloyal.org.nz.
Perfect.
Of course, in New Zealand, Mike, we say NZ. NZ, yes.
Yes, I know.
I'm translating it for the Americans.
If you say Zed, many of them won't.
They'll be looking for the Zed on the keyboard.
Where's the Zed?
I don't know where the Zed went.
But anyway,.nz is always at the end of New Zealand websites, so that's what that's all about.
Jokes aside, though, I'm really glad that you're active in this political effort.
But we also want to get today, I mean, you're free to talk about your party's plans, but also we want to help Barry here.
So we want to know about how we can raise funds for Barry, what's his legal strategy.
I mean, the act of him releasing the data, I think, is a very heroic pro-humanitarian act.
He should be given like the Global Medal of Human Freedom or something for that.
Instead, he's facing prison.
Now this is really revealing, and I want to focus on Barry as well and whistleblowers around the world.
I'll put in a call, please, if you are sitting on information like Barry was that's making your heart ache, that hurts every day when you know that what information you have in front of you could change this whole dynamic and bring down the corrupt WHO and the WEF and the UN and all of their tyranny and bullying.
If you're sitting on it, come out with it.
Barry has said He's willing to pay whatever price that is, and they are threatening him with seven years' prison.
But here's the rub.
So many Kiwis admire him, just the way Mike said, as a real hero up there with Edmund Hillary, who climbed Everest, because the courage this is taking in the face of the lies and the bullying, and this is the rub, Mike, the intimidation by the Ministry of Health in New Zealand, the Ministry of Sickness, it should be called, Instead of saying, wow, we did not realize what this data shows.
No, they've gone to the New Zealand's new government under Christopher Luxon with Winston Peters, who promised he'd stand for the Freedom Fighters, and they've got the permission to go after our whistleblower with, get this, eight police burst into his house.
They smashed down his door.
They roughed up his house.
And when they took him in, they had guns, which we don't normally have in New Zealand.
I mean, this is a man who's working over a hot keyboard all day, who's the most gentle, ethical soul you could ever meet.
Yeah, but they treat him like a terrorist.
Yeah, there was no need.
And they vastly overeat.
The purpose of that was to intimidate other Kiwis into silence.
And instead, more and more Kiwis are being woken up going, Wait a minute.
If the data is anonymized, which it is, it doesn't breach privacy, which it doesn't, then put it out.
Let us all see it.
And meantime, the Ministry of Health and the government are saying, nothing to see here.
The jab is safe and effective.
They're doubling down on the propaganda, saying, oh, there's a new wave of COVID. Get your boosters.
Get your six-month booster.
Absolutely nothing.
It's criminal behavior in my mind to keep going when there is clear evidence of excess mortality from this jab and they are doubling down because we're an experimental population.
I'll talk about that in a moment.
But instead of looking at it, they come after the guy.
They try to kill the messenger and not listen to the message, Mike.
That's right.
I mean, it's extraordinary.
Most of the jabbing, which I would consider to be a criminal act of genocide against the New Zealand people, was carried out under Jacinda Ardern, right?
Yes.
And why isn't she being prosecuted for criminal collusion, carrying out chemical violence or medical violence against women and children and everybody else, including the elderly in New Zealand?
I mean, in my mind, as an American observing this, What Jacinda did...
Am I pronouncing her name correctly?
Is it Jacinda?
Yes.
What Jacinda did is...
Similar, not in scale, but in quality to what many of the worst anti-humanitarian war criminals have done throughout human history.
And you can name them off.
There are lots of them.
But what she did is the same in my mind.
She should be prosecuted as a criminal, and yet the whistleblower that is exposing what she did is the one facing jail.
And in their vast overreach, it's backfiring on them because people are going, well, if you are sending so many cops in and roughing up a person's house and putting an innocent hero, as you called him, in jail for two nights, you must have a lot to hide.
Yes.
Now here's the other rub.
We've got a new government.
Normally in the real democracy we're meant to have, which we don't have because they all answer to the same overlords from these world organisations – Normally, a new party getting in would be going, look at Jacinda Ardern.
She was terrible.
Here's the evidence.
We don't ever want to support what she did.
We're a proper opposition party.
All they're doing, Mike, is staying absolutely silent.
And my question to Christopher Luxon is...
Has Jacinda rung you from Harvard, where she now hangs out to tell the world that people should be censored from telling their truths like we are?
Has Jacinda rung you and possibly said, hey, Christopher Luxon, you take me down, I'll take you down, because you were part of it as the opposition.
Now, we don't know if that's possible, but I do question why the new leader is staying so silent when people want the truth.
And we say...
If you're saying this is safe and effective according to the data you have, Ministry of Health, put it out.
It's anonymized.
Let us see it.
Let everybody see it here in New Zealand and around the world.
And we'll decide.
We're smart.
Yeah, transparency is supposed to be the answer to all of this, and yet we are denied that.
Now, let me ask you this question, and I also want to ask you about fundraising.
I notice you have a donate button on your website, so we'll give that out again for people who want to donate to the legal defense for Barry Young, which I strongly encourage those donations.
But let me ask you this.
So my impression of New Zealanders, from my point of view as a Texan, is that the New Zealand culture actually shares a lot with Texas, which is this fierce independence, this incredible adaptability, resilience, the ability to solve problems this incredible adaptability, resilience, the ability to solve problems often in very rural settings without even having all the right tools and everything.
But they find solutions.
They make it work.
And the New Zealanders that I know, the Kiwis, if I may use the term, are people who are incredibly self-reliant and critical thinking, and they have good discernment.
But with that understood, I don't understand how so much of New Zealand today is run by these parties that just control and brainwash and enslave their own people.
I don't understand how these two things can go together.
Boy, you've nailed an enormous, in a way, philosophical question about the very heart and soul of who we are now as a people, because what you described were the Kiwis that I grew up with.
That was the pride in being a Kiwi.
And because we were far away from the rest of the world for many years, there was this inventiveness.
There were many, many people who could invent wonderful things on the spot because they needed to problem solve, as you said.
Agile thinkers, very, very independent.
We stood up to America under Lange and said, we don't want nuclear ships in our ports.
We stood up to France back in the 70s for Mururoa.
They were testing their nuclear weapons in an atoll in the middle of the Pacific.
And Kiwis were part of getting that out.
We were a strong, vital people.
Somehow, because Jacinda Ardern, she was the queen of, well, I would say lying, Someone benign would say propaganda.
But she lied through these enormous teeth with such skill that she just brought the whole nation into a place of fear, which is what every tyrant does from Stalin, Mao Zedong, all of them, Hitler.
They all bring fear in to exert their tyrannical plans across the population.
But she did it so convincingly that many people seem to fall for a PSYOP.
And I wonder, Mike, if we weren't also an experimental population for how effective a psychological operation can be on a small population because, boy, she did it well.
You know, I know an American couple that lived in New Zealand and they had immigrated to New Zealand and then they left and they came back to America and they told me that New Zealand, in their view, was the number one experimental site by the globalists to run all their pilot programs and see what they could get away with.
That's chilling.
We had a former leader called Helen Clark who was very ambitious, very ambitious to be the first female leader.
She didn't make it there of New Zealand.
And then she got into the UN and she was very ambitious to head the UN. Again, that kind of female instinct of mine says, did she ever put her hand up and go, hey, you can use my country to experiment with all this stuff as long as I make it up the ranks in the UN? She never made it to the top of the UN, but she was appointed during the COVID rollout to some...
I think Gates, who funded position, you know, they all get their emoluments in the end.
But the point of that is I feel people have sold us out definitely and said, hey, use New Zealand.
We're all good with that.
You know, as long as you look after me as the leader and I get all the benefits, you can take my country and experiment.
But I think Jacinda was also set up, interestingly, by the Christchurch quake.
And we don't ever know the full story of that.
We again are not allowed to mention anything about that in our media here.
No, even our network got censored in New Zealand over that very issue.
Yeah, you are not allowed to discuss it.
You are not allowed to question it.
You are not allowed to say.
But what I would say is that set her up on the world stage as this Kind of Mother Teresa figure, you know, but of course she's this, it's a fake, it's a fake, lovely leader.
But many Kiwis have reported going overseas and people come up and go, oh, you're so lucky having Jacinda Ardern in your country.
And they'll say to me, I was horrified and I had to tell those people, no, she was a monster.
She looked away.
How does a woman like that put on the scarf and Talk to all the Muslim people when they've lost their families in the, sorry, in the Christchurch terror attack.
I think I said quake before.
Terror attack.
That was the terror attack that set her up.
So how do people How does somebody like Jacinda put on the scarf and be so sympathetic in the terror attack?
And then a couple of years later, when we go, Jacinda, here's an interview with a 24-year-old girl, Casey Hodgkinson, who's in a wheelchair shaking from one jab.
Her life is ruined.
She's got pain like knives in her knees.
Jacinda, help.
Please look at this interview.
And right from that, she just looked away.
I don't want to know.
You know, she never answered any of our emails we sent.
She never answered anybody's emails.
She never answered anybody's concerns.
So on the one hand, in the Christchurch mosque terror attack, she seemed so compassionate.
And then there's this other woman who doesn't give a damn.
Well, one of them is a lie.
And I know who's the real one.
The numbers are even, I mean, the number of New Zealanders killed by these vaccines, according to the data that Barry Young has released, vastly outpaces the number of victims alleged in the Christchurch attack.
I mean...
Yeah, vastly.
And in fact, we worked out that, say it was 100, if you take a baseline of deaths over 120, we are now having that almost every day in New Zealand.
We have that graph.
That was very rare in New Zealand before the rollout of the COVID-19 response here.
And one of the rare days was the Christchurch mosque attack.
So now we're basically having that every day.
And the whole mainstream media in New Zealand ignores it.
Isn't that astonishing?
And what it tells you is that from their point of view, the lives of New Zealanders really don't matter to them.
What matters is the narrative.
And what are the current estimates of the total number of victims from these jabs in New Zealand, based on the best data that you have?
It's very hard to get government data.
I'll give you an example.
I did the baby Will story last year and we were outside the court.
There was a little baby who had to have a heart operation at three months old and they wouldn't give the parents the right to bring unjabbed people in to donate the same kind of blood for his heart operation.
So it blew up to a big question, Mike, which is, Should we all be allowed to go to an unjabbed blood bank?
In other words, if I want to give blood, I'd like to give it to a blood bank where it's not mixed with the blood of the jabbed people, because that gives options.
Because I'm not jabbed, it just gives human beings options, and I believe in options.
Outside the court, I was saying to a lot of the journalists, are you aware of how many jab-indered people we have on the official government website?
And that was early December last year.
And it was 64,000 were officially registered as having had severe adverse reactions.
Do you know how the government responded to my asking those questions?
From December last year, Mike, that was never updated, that government site.
That's how they're doing it.
So, you know, I haven't even publicized it.
There's evidence of a government that rather than say, or Jacinda's government, Rather than say, we'll look into this, we'll investigate, we'll find out why this shouldn't be happening, It's much more, how do we stop the information getting out?
How do we dumb down the population?
How do we silence people?
How do we intimidate so nobody can talk about it?
I mean, this is communism.
This is how the communists do it.
And to be willing to sacrifice your own people.
I'm talking about the political leaders of New Zealand.
Jacinda, for example.
The willingness to see New Zealanders, in essence, murdered.
In order to appease the globalist controllers and perhaps to advance her own political career, which is what she has done.
But at the cost of the blood of your fellow countrymen and women?
I mean, what kind of monster does that take?
I mean, the psychological profile of that kind of person would be among the most horrifying criminal-minded serial killers in human history.
My God, you articulate that well.
We've done pieces on that.
The first time you realize that's where this is leading, we have a leader who's willing to hurt her own people, your brain goes, I won't believe that.
I'm going crazy.
I can't believe that.
That would never happen.
No one would be that monstrous.
But after interviewing so many jab-injured people, sending those into her silence after silence, after asking many of those jab-injured people to look down the camera mic and say, If I wasn't in the room, if that camera was Jacinda and you had one message, one minute to send her a message, what would it be?
And all of these people sobbing about their pain and their lost lives and their confusion, their fear, their sense of betrayal, they would take a breath and generally they would say this, Jacinda, how do you sleep at night?
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean, the assaults on not just human beings, but upon human principles are even more atrocious here.
Because if we can't operate with a sense of basic humanity with each other, and if our so-called national leaders are actual serial murderers, then how on earth can we have sustainable civilization?
You know, regardless of other issues.
I mean, people can agree or disagree on taxation and climate and whatever.
But if your leaders are murdering your brothers and sisters, you have a much bigger problem.
Absolutely.
And one call I put out about three weeks ago was, Jacinda, you have broken your social contract with the people.
And what did I mean by that?
What I mean is, leaders are only meant to be in there by agreement with the society over whom they are.
supposedly chosen by that society to lead so that's a social contract The minute enough people wake up in a society and say, you are not showing that you care about us.
In fact, you are hurting us.
In fact, you are betraying us totally.
Then the society has a right to go and say, you will no longer lead because you don't have the imprimatur, the approval of enough of us.
And that's what I'm trying to do.
Just tell the truth.
But, you know, it's hard.
I'm called every name and I've had a real assault.
I know that it's...
It's been something the government's very scared of, so potentially stirred up by government trolls.
And we know about Soros and what he's done around the world in terms of stirring up problems.
You know, there are some really nasty people trying to tell the lies.
But the beauty of this, getting back to Barry, the beauty of Barry is he just comes out of court the other day, having pled not guilty, and he just says, you know, something is changing.
And we are going to win this because enough people are realizing that we've been lied to.
So stay with me, stay with us, and we will do the course.
And he will pay whatever price.
If it's seven years in prison, There will be an absolute hullabaloo in this country if they try that.
They've really miscalculated New Zealanders if they think they can do that.
Barry, through his actions, has awakened many sleeping giants around the world.
And I want all of the New Zealand government officials who are probably going to watch this, I want you to know that the whole world is watching you.
The entire world is aware of Barry Young.
And if New Zealand...
Prosecutes Barry Young for sharing anonymized data in the interest of saving human lives, then the collapse of goodwill and respect towards New Zealand as a nation will be truly historic.
The damage that you will do to your own country, your economy, your people, your future, your leadership will be insurmountable.
I mean, you would be committing a kind of national suicide that your own people do not want to experience and do not deserve.
And this is critical to understand.
The whole world is watching here and we are not going to forget about Barry Young and what he did.
And in fact, he is a hero among heroes around the world because the fact that he was the key database administrator and not just one of 20 like you might have in a larger country, but he was the man who saw these data and he saw the human cost of what was happening.
And he made the compassionate, even spiritual decision to release this to the world.
That actually shows the brightest potential of New Zealand.
If Barry Young were to be held up as a hero, the benefits to New Zealand in the eyes of the world would be tremendous.
Yeah.
I love every word you are saying, and it lands as absolute truth.
And here's the thing.
In that first interview where we put out the data, I said, this is the potential for New Zealand to lead the world back to a much better place.
But it's very dark here.
That appeal you just made, that warning you just voiced, Mike.
I would put that directly in the laps of the New Zealand media.
Our New Zealand mainstream media continue to either lie totally about it, if they mention him at all, or to fail to mention him.
So there are many Kiwis still in the dark who don't research, who don't go further than mainstream.
It's absolutely heartbreaking to see, getting back to your point earlier, How can this vital, independent, feisty little nation be so broken?
Well, it's through propaganda and it's through lies from politicians and without a mainstream media that puts up the fight on behalf of the people, a mainstream media that in fact collapses into the government narrative.
You don't have democracy anymore.
And I used to be that person on the news desk, Mike, 20 years ago.
I was Good evening.
Here is your news.
I mean, it's just so fake now what I see in mainstream.
And I appeal to anybody in mainstream who's still sitting on that doubt that we talked about earlier.
Am I doing the right thing being a journalist in this era, in mainstream media in New Zealand, when I know there are people dying needlessly and being injured needlessly because of this jab?
I'm going to give up my job and I'm going to make a stand counterfeit.
Come over.
Tell the truth.
Be one of the whistleblowers as well.
How can we do it without real media?
See, this is where Brighton is so crucial for the world.
Yes, this is why we exist precisely for stories like this.
Now, let's use our network now to bring some help to Barry.
I know he will have substantial legal costs associated with his defense.
How can people help support him?
Thank you so much, Yvonne.
Yes, we've got a really big bill, a big bill of nearly 20,000 at the moment.
So, look, if you go on nzloyal.org.nz, I'm getting the American way.
Thank you for that.
You can put on your donation WB, that is Whistleblower.
That just goes directly to a side account.
It is the Whistleblower account.org.
Okay, so when you make a donation, add WB for whistleblower?
Yep.
Then we know you want it to go there.
That's a side account that is not going to the political party.
Okay.
It's just that we are collecting it on behalf of.
But we have had a call this morning from the bank, Westpac Bank, and I will be calling them once they get off air asking why they are asking for a full examination of accounts.
So is this pressure from the government in another way on us?
And if they do, I'll certainly be happy to go public with that and highlight yet another bank that's collapsing into a corrupt, bullying, tyrannical government narrative.
We can't have that either.
These banks can't be used as tools to bully brave, freedom-fighting people who want freedom.
Well, you're familiar with, of course, what happened with the government and the banks in Canada over the truckers' protest.
The banks were pressured and then people's accounts were frozen.
And I mean, that's the level of desperation that these tyrannical regimes are now turning to in order to try to suppress the people.
And that is completely unacceptable.
But our audience will absolutely reach out and help support you.
Now, let me ask you, because you're an attorney, what are Barry Young's chances here?
I've seen the list of charges against him.
Just in plain English, they seem ludicrous.
Accessing a computer for a nefarious purpose or whatever.
But...
Is he going...
I mean, will he be able to avoid prosecution here?
Any idea?
If he's pled not guilty, so that's going to mean potentially...
I haven't talked to him about what he's considering with his lawyer at the moment, but is it trial by judge alone or trial by jury?
I think he should have a trial by his peers, the real people of New Zealand.
So there are more discussions to be had there, but pleading not guilty also gives a chance to really cross-examine the evidence.
Of this database being no threat to privacy, because that's what they're making all the fuss about.
You know, there is a threat to breaching people's privacy.
This is the privacy of dead people who've been murdered by a genocidal government regime.
Are they really going to put privacy beyond the supreme duty of every one of us?
But he hasn't released the names of individuals.
No, not at all.
And there is a duty to look after each other's privacy and respect that.
But above that is a duty to expose criminality in those who are leading our country, if it's there.
And this is evidence of criminality.
So the greater duty has to be honoured.
And certainly I haven't gone into it with the lawyer yet.
They're preparing the case as we speak.
But, you know, this will give a chance to cross-examine the Ministry of Health On why they're not releasing anonymized data that belongs to the people of New Zealand.
It's our data.
It's not theirs to do with it what they want.
It's all about us.
So we should know what the results are of this experimental jab.
And they are hiding it.
Let me ask this.
Even if there was not nefarious, murderous intent, if we're talking about just a product safety perspective here, let's say that Barry Young were an administrator of a database of automobile accidents, transportation, And then let's say that he noticed that at the top of the list of fatalities was a certain make and model of a car that happened to be defective.
And its gas tank would explode and burn everybody up.
And there were crazy high deaths for that particular car.
Now, if Barry Young were to go public, not expose the names of people, but just say...
Oh my goodness, this brand of vehicle is killing New Zealanders.
He would be a hero in the New Zealand media.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And if those who are in charge of the data said, no, no, no, keep the data secret, go after the messenger, they would be absolutely decried.
That's right.
And that's what should be happening here.
Yeah, it's a perfect metaphor.
Yeah.
I mean, think about in any other category, a food product.
You know, if a local food manufacturer were distributing food products into the grocery stores and it were contaminated with salmonella, let's say, and a bunch of people were dying from salmonella, Every person would say, raise the alarm.
We have to save lives.
This is killing people.
Why not with vaccines?
Why not with vaccines?
What has happened with our thinking about vaccines?
How has Bill Gates got away with being the largest funder of the World Health Organization?
That should never have been a man and his company.
And when you look at, as a journalist...
I look at Bill Gates being the largest funder of WHO and WHO declared the pandemic, right, on this side.
Yes.
And then if you follow a bridge across, you look at who's benefited from the pandemic being declared by Bill Gates and the WHO. Oh, look, we've got the Gates Foundation and Bill Gates benefiting from declaring the pandemic.
Now, as a journalist, when you see that, Yes.
Greed, exploitation, and a lack of morality.
Well, absolutely.
And moving forward in time on this, if this is all covered up, and you already mentioned the New Zealand government has stopped updating its statistics, then what does this mean for any future pandemic or the safety of any future jab?
Because under the response that we're currently seeing from the New Zealand government, it would mean that a vaccine manufacturer could put mercury in the jabs and just inject everybody with mercury.
And if people started dying, I'm not saying they would do this.
This is just a thought experiment, just a metaphor.
But if everybody started dying, then everyone would be silenced.
You can't talk about the poison in the jabs.
They could put, you know, radioactive uranium in the jabs and no one could talk about it.
And let's face it, Mike, we all know there were nine pages of adverse reactions and probably many more that they didn't put on those nine small typed pages for the Pfizer jab alone.
What is in that?
What is in that?
Nobody knows.
And why should we put something deep inside our veins, deep inside our bodies, when we don't even know what it is?
Let me add this, too.
I'm a food scientist.
I run an analytical food science lab.
We test for contaminants.
I happen to know that New Zealand has very strict food and supplement importation rules.
In order to import supplements into New Zealand, they have to pass very strict requirements, and there are certain allowable residue limits, by the way, of pesticides and herbicides and heavy metals such as lead and arsenic.
Those rules exist in New Zealand as well as Australia and Canada.
But why is it that a vaccine can have anything in it?
Literally anything.
It doesn't need to pass any safety tests, no clinical trials, no heavy metals testing, no genetic testing.
It can be genetically contaminated or polluted.
It can have non-human genetic code in it.
And to the government of New Zealand, that's okay?
I mean, you're arguing over vitamin C purity over here?
Oh, you can't have too much vitamin C. But then, oh, but just inject like monkey kidney cells.
How insane is that?
And, you know, that is a place I personally would never, ever have a vaccine again.
However, I believe in total freedom.
So if somebody wants to have a vaccine in the future, if I were the Prime Minister, the first thing I'd say is, all right, we'll bring in vaccines, but we will remove all protection for the manufacturer.
So if a vaccine ever is shown to cause harm to any group of people, then that manufacturer will be held up in court and liable.
Why on earth did Reagan remove that?
Why did he remove that liability for the manufacturers of vaccines back in the 80s?
Because the vaccines were harming so many people.
That's why.
Yeah, and, you know, the FDA, of course, went along with it, and the courts went along with it.
Did you know that the vaccine court in the United States sits above the U.S. Supreme Court?
No, I did not.
Yes, the Supreme Court has ruled that it cannot overrule the vaccine court.
That's frightening.
Think about that.
Yeah.
I mean, isn't that a eulogy to the whole vaccine industry, the power of it?
The power of it to make money and then corrupt using the money it's made, hurting human beings.
And we know that it costs money as a vaccine manufacturer to implement quality control measures.
And so since there are no repercussions for having a lack of quality control, then they probably say, why bother?
You know, anything goes.
And I think, again, even if you take away the nefarious motivations, let's say that these are all accidents.
Well, even if they're accidents, you...
You have to call out the dangerous products.
I mean, we have entire agencies in America that call out dangerous products.
Oh, you know, these Mickey Mouse t-shirts have lead in the paint and they're being sold to children.
I mean, that company will be fined millions of dollars, but not if it's a vaccine.
It's just frightening how we got here and this sort of blind, almost as if a vaccine is a kind of god in front of which we must all bow down and accept it unconditionally.
It's like a kind of religion.
The vaccine supporters seem to have a religious obeisance to it.
You know, they will do whatever is told to them by politicians who know nothing about health and who are always...
I love what Jefferson said, which is, you know, the politicians must always fear the people.
The people should never fear the politicians.
So here you had these corrupted politicians putting the fear of dying en masse into the population.
We had someone very plausible who did it with a smile and all the head shakes and all the nauseating insincerity that Jacinda Ardern had.
And then, on top of that, threatening, you'll lose your jobs, coercing, you must have it if you want to earn a living.
You know, it's just, if you want to go to a concert, if you want, she said, if you want to get a haircut, if you want to go to the gym, if you want to go to a concert, get the jab.
Total coercion and no ethics at all.
We must now say the people must rise up together and say no more.
And how we wake up a population, part of whom are still believing the mainstream media, all I can do is return to that call.
Mainstream media journalists, if it is weighing hard on your soul, if you have a soul, on your heart, on your moral code, Give up that job in mainstream.
Stop reporting the lies and come over on this side and say, I know there are people being vastly injured and dying early in New Zealand.
Don't do that job anymore for the government.
Exactly.
Well stated.
Liz, I just want to thank you for what you're doing.
I mean, you are a true hero of New Zealand from my perspective, and I know people all around the world have been really moved by what you're doing.
You're providing an incredible service, and I believe that your service and Barry's service will also be recognized in time.
Thank you, Mike.
I don't do it for that.
I just put out a call every day to all the others who come up to me and say thank you.
I say you're doing your part.
Everyone who stands against this is equal, in my eyes, an equal hero.
There is a strong word that we all need to say, and it's this.
No, when they try to bully us.
No, when they try to come after the good man, Barry, and put him in jail.
No.
So please do help if you can donate.
To Barry's legal fund, nzloyal.org.nz and just put it on their WB for whistleblower.
And Westpac Bank in New Zealand, if you want to write to them and say don't bully on behalf of the government, we have a right to collect these funds for this good man and to make sure he has all the legal representation so that he does walk free and we all celebrate the new world he envisages.
Thank you, Mike.
Well stated.
Again, I'm showing the website and just click the donate button at the top, folks, and then you can offer donation.
When you do that, enter WB for whistleblower so that these funds go directly to the Legal Defense Department.
Of Barry Young, and Liz, I would hope that you could give us updates from time to time about Barry's situation, because again, I'm committed to making sure that this stays on the radar all over the world.
What Barry has done, it is a pivotal moment, I believe, in humanity's revolt against the slaughter.
And Barry is a hero for humanity, and he should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, as far as I'm concerned, at this point, for what he has done.
But I have just a personal question, if you don't mind me asking.
The earrings that you're wearing, do those resonate or reflect indigenous artwork or Maori art of any kind, or what is that?
Possibly, although they're made by a European woman who gets wood, and she uses...
They're based on beautiful bird feathers and the patterns of our New Zealand bird feathers.
I'm glad you noticed them.
Well, a lot of the indigenous artwork from both New Zealand and Australia has a black background.
And then nature patterns, often in yellow or gold or red, on top of black.
And it looked like that to me.
That's really lovely.
I'm about to put out an interview with her on NZ Loyal, so people will be able to go on her website and buy them.
Oh, that's great.
That's really lovely.
Mike, what a delight talking to you.
And yes, to doing catch-ups.
Certainly, I'll keep you updated.
And yes, to good, winning over evil.
You make me want to come to Texas.
If Texans are all this good, I want to come there and investigate.
Well, you are always welcome in Texas.
All New Zealanders are welcome in Texas.
We have a very similar spirit.
And we have the best barbecue.
I think so.
Just a little bonus.
You'll get a run of Kiwis coming.
Thanks, Mike.
And you don't have to put away your firearms here in Texas.
You're actually required to display them as much as possible.
Getting back to the wise words of Jefferson, the politicians must always fear the people.
The people should never fear the politicians.
That's right.
Well, thank you, Liz.
Have a wonderful day.
Thank you, Mike.
Happy Christmas.
Okay, you too.
Take care.
And thank all of you for watching.
That was Liz Gunn there, just an extraordinary person and an incredible hero for humanity.
And Barry Young, the plight that he is going through right now, facing years in prison.
We hope that you can consider offering him support for his legal funds.
Again, the website, once again, is nzloyal.org.nz if you want to offer a donation there.
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