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Dec. 14, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Dec 14, 2023 - RFK, Jr. exposes dark secrets of U.S. bioweapons program...

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	Welcome to Brighton Broadcast News for Thursday, December 14th, 2023.
	The checker calendar.
	It's going so quickly, but we've got big news for you today.
	First of all, we've got highlights from a new book.
	By Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	It just came out, I think, a week ago.
	I got my hands on a copy of the PDF, thanks to the publisher Skyhorse providing it.
	And the book is called The Wuhan Cover-Up and the Terrifying Bioweapons Arms Race.
	And I gotta say, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he gets it.
	And he's shown a lot of courage in putting his name on this book, and it's comprehensive.
	I mean, I'm going to go through a little bit of the table of contents for you here.
	It's 63 chapters.
	And just extraordinary quotes of support from people like Andrew Huff, who I interviewed, by the way, in the studio.
	He's the whistleblower, you know, former, I don't know if you'd call him former Deep State or whatever.
	He worked with EcoHealth Alliance.
	There are quotes in here from James O'Keefe and Peter McCullough, Robert Malone, and so many others.
	And I'm going to add my own analysis.
	Oh, Francis Boyle as well, the professor I've interviewed many times.
	I'll be adding my own comments to this and analysis and even projecting, I think, even further than what Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	is able to do in a book format.
	But this book is extraordinary.
	And then the Steve Kirsch interview coming up is something you won't want to miss.
	Now, a couple of things.
	Let me offer a couple of personal comments and notes about both RFK Jr.
	and Steve Kirsch.
	First, Steve Kirsch.
	It is my fault that I have not invited Steve Kirsch for an interview for quite some time, at least over a year, maybe longer.
	But that's on me, and I've been reading his Substack, which is stevekirsch.substack.com, and I've been following his arguments and many of his videos and interviews and so on.
	And Steve Kirsch He's also a very courageous, very high IQ individual who has been essentially arguing with the science establishment for two plus years at this point, trying to show them that the data absolutely reveal that these vaccines are killing people.
	Okay?
	It's irrefutable.
	There's no question whatsoever that this is happening.
	In fact, I was even suggesting to Steve Kirsch in the interview today, which you'll hear, I said, look, if you took this entire data set and you just replaced the word vaccine with Ford Pintos, you know, something about car safety instead of vaccine safety, and you gave this data set to a bunch of data scientists and said, hey, how dangerous are these Ford Pintos?
	Right?
	That was a car that was recalled many decades ago because...
	If it got impacted from behind, it would – well, the gas tank would rupture and it would burst into flames.
	So anyway, if you did that, there's no question that the data scientists or students or doctors or whoever would say, yeah, gosh, the Ford Pintos are clearly associated with a much higher risk of injury and mortality.
	There's no question whatsoever.
	The data are clear.
	But when it becomes vaccines, suddenly there's this zealotry among the scientific establishment and the medical establishment, and then they don't want to see it.
	Oh, we can't look at that data.
	No, we don't know if that's complete.
	Or then they start attacking Steve Kirsch.
	Oh, you don't know what you're talking about.
	It's this kind of ad hominem attack that Mr.
	Kirsch has been subjected to.
	So we get to talk about this in today's interview, and I think you'll find it to be a very enlightening interview.
	But I do want to extend my apologies to Mr.
	Kirsch for not inviting him on sooner.
	At the same time, there's only so many interviews that I can do, and I'm...
	I have very high expectations of my own output, and I'm overworked.
	And if I allowed myself to interview all the people I want to talk to all the time, I would be doing 20 interviews a week, and that's just not practical.
	So doing the best I can with the resources and time that I have.
	Now, secondly, on Robert F. Kennedy Jr., I just want to clear the air here on this issue.
	I have been publicly critical.
	Of what I see as RFK's lack of response involving Israel's continued bombing of Gaza, which is causing the deaths of now tens of thousands of women and children and civilians.
	Far beyond Hamas terrorists that are also being killed, perhaps a couple thousand Hamas have been killed, but it looks like something on the order of 22, 23,000 civilians have been killed in Gaza.
	And I have publicly said that I don't like RFK Jr.'s lack of calling out this bombing of Gaza, which many people, many observers around the world have characterized correctly, in my opinion, as an Israeli-led many observers around the world have characterized correctly, in my opinion, as an Israeli-led ethnic cleansing
	Now, Children's Health Defense did put out a statement, I think a couple of weeks ago, saying that They do not condone violence against civilians in any context anywhere in the world.
	And they call for peace and diplomacy.
	They did not go to the extent of calling for a specific ceasefire for Israel or for the Gaza conflict.
	And they did not call out Netanyahu or Israel.
	So they did say something.
	I didn't think they went far enough.
	But I want to put this in context.
	What we're about to talk about today, this new book, the Wuhan cover-up, and I even have to remind myself to truly keep in mind the orders of magnitude or the scale of potential risk to humanity that we're talking about here.
	The bioweapons that have been developed with the help of the Department of Defense and with taxpayer funding and then weaponized in Wuhan, there is no question in my mind That this bioweapons development program,
	which is mixed in with the vaccine program, there's no question in my mind that this has killed at minimum 20 million people around the world already, and probably many more.
	Now, Steve Kirsch says in the interview today he's very confident that it has killed, I think he said, at least 10 million, or maybe he said 13.
	But another researcher has conservatively estimated it, based on data, at 17 million deaths around the world.
	I'm saying 20-plus.
	I'm highly confident it's way over 20.
	And when you include the number of people who have been maimed, Now, even if we take just the deaths from these COVID vaccines so far,
	let's just say it's 20 million, even though I think that's a low number, and you compare that to the number of deaths Innocent civilians who are being bombed to death in Gaza, which let's say for simplicity's sake here, let's call that 20,000.
	I don't mean to disregard any life of any child or woman or civilian, but you're going to see why if we pick 20,000, this is a much easier thought experiment.
	Well, 20 million people have been killed by vaccines so far, and that number is rising, whereas 20,000 civilians in Gaza have been killed by the indiscriminate bombing by the Israeli military, which even now the White House calls indiscriminate bombing.
	Joe Biden just said that the other day.
	Well, 20,000 is one one thousandth of 20 million, obviously.
	It would be fair to say that The bombings of Gaza, even though they're a lot more visual, a lot more violent, the number of people killed there is one one-thousandth of the number of people killed silently by vaccines, which you could characterize as a bioweapons bombing of the world.
	And there are innocent children dying by No question, at least a million or more probably around the world that have been killed by these COVID vaccines.
	I'm talking a million, which is, again, orders of magnitude larger than the number of children that have been killed in Gaza.
	And I'm not excusing or justifying any bombing of any children in any context.
	And I think that RFK Jr.
	would absolutely agree with me that we all want children to live in peace.
	We have compassion for children.
	We want them to grow up in an environment where they can be healthy, free from exposure to toxins, where they can be free to learn and think and express themselves and to speak and write and create and invent.
	And that's what we want for humanity.
	And whether the bombs are dropped by the IDF Air Force or the bombs are injected through needles at the local pharmacy, it's still a kind of warfare on civilians, on innocent people.
	It's just that the vaccine war is a thousand times larger.
	And that's the bioweapons war.
	And we have to keep this in context.
	And with the information presented in the Wuhan cover-up book, my goodness, we're talking about the number of people who will be killed by these biological weapons that are being deliberately developed by the United States government and other governments around the world.
	We're talking about if this isn't stopped, this will escalate to hundreds of millions of people.
	And potentially, obviously depending on how crazy this whole thing gets, it could involve the deaths of over a billion people.
	And that's why it's critical that we stop this.
	And it's a difficult moral decision to choose to focus on one mass crime against humanity at the expense of focusing on another.
	But I could be talking about Israel and Palestine today And it does matter because I believe that every single life matters of every person on this planet, no matter what their religion or ethnicity or skin color.
	But it matters a thousand times more.
	We have to understand what is at stake here.
	It matters at least a thousand times more that we stop this bioweapons war on all of us.
	So I just want to invite you to join me in thinking from this perspective.
	That we must have the discipline to understand where the largest threats affect the largest numbers of people and make sure that we don't forget about those things just because another threat has emerged more recently.
	Again, I want all children to grow up in a safe environment, in a toxin-free environment, with loving, caring, nurturing parents.
	And good quality education, good quality nutrition through food and all of that.
	That's my wish for humanity.
	But that's not the world in which we live.
	And there are forces that are actively building biological weapons which are designed to deconstruct human cells.
	So if you think about the miracle of conception, which I would attribute to divine, a divine gift, This is God's gift that a woman can create a child inside her own body, obviously with the help of a man.
	A little bit of help, perhaps.
	Not necessarily long-term help, but depends on the father, right?
	A little bit of help from a man, but a whole lot of effort from the woman.
	She can, with God's grace, create a life And then give birth to a child who grows up to contribute to this world.
	It's an absolute miracle of creation.
	And if you understand the physiology of what happens during gestation, you understand that cells are being assembled.
	Biological information is being organized.
	There is purpose.
	There's the structure, the creation of cells, and then little tiny organs, and then organ systems, and then brain cells and neural networks start to be constructed.
	A child that's born is born with a neural network that is actually a reflection of the most powerful computing system, if you want to put it that way.
	That's more powerful than Skynet, more powerful than any AI system in the world.
	And it's a gift from God.
	So if you think about it as assembling molecules and more to create a divine being, that's the process of gestation and then giving birth.
	But then there's this entire segment of society that is rooted in the research of how to disassemble.
	The life of a human being.
	And that's called biological weapons.
	Remember that bioweapons, they are not poisons in the classical chemical sense.
	They are not toxins.
	They don't poison you with exposure to mercury, for example.
	And they're not molecules like VX nerve gas.
	These bioweapons, they disassemble your cells from the inside.
	They are the actual biological opposite of what God's creation means for human beings, and especially for motherhood and giving birth.
	So what would you call a technology that's designed to disassemble a human body and to spread mass death and destruction?
	Well, we call them biological weapons, but that phrase doesn't even capture what we're talking about here.
	And that's why I think to really understand this, you've got to take a look at this book.
	The Wuhan cover-up is what it's called, and the terrifying bioweapons arms race is the, that's the subhead of it, and it's Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	Of course, you can get it on Amazon or Barnes& Noble, bn.com.
	And I hope soon we'll have it at brighttownbooks.com.
	We are partners with Skyhorse there, so we do earn a small something from book sales.
	And brighttownbooks.com is just one place to check out, although I don't think this book is there, and a lot of people just prefer...
	Amazon Prime shipping anyway, but you can get this on Amazon, you can get this on Barnes& Noble or other booksellers.
	And let me read you what Francis Boyle says about this.
	He says, the Wuhan cover-up will blow out of the water the international disinformation campaign by U.S. and Chinese government officials, and they're bribed scientists that COVID-19 somehow magically jumped out of the Wuhan wet market.
	Kennedy's book will provide the ammunition needed for us lawyers to hold them all legally accountable for this Nuremberg crime against humanity.
	I love that quote from Professor Boyle.
	Wow.
	And that's his wish, by the way, is to one day hold all of these people accountable, charge them, prosecute them.
	For the crimes they have committed against humanity.
	And I have to say, I completely agree with that.
	Let me read you one more quote here, at least part of it, from Dr.
	Andrew Huff, well, PhD, author of The Truth About Wuhan, who I interviewed in the Breitian studio, I don't know, a year ago or whenever that was.
	He says,"...the greatest tragedy in human history has unfolded before our eyes." I was not surprised to learn that a deadly virus, SARS-CoV-2, had leaked out of a laboratory in Wuhan, China, in the late summer of 2019.
	In retrospect, I was shocked that the US government did not notify and alert the public of the global spread of COVID in the fall of 2019.
	In fact, the US government did something far worse.
	Bobby's book succinctly elucidates how and why the opaque nexus of the US military and intelligence community leveraged corrupt and morally deficient scientists and bureaucrats to execute what was the largest and most sophisticated psychological operation in world history.
	The three goals were simple, he says, to obfuscate the true origin of a jointly created biological weapon by the U.S. and China, to bring an untested mRNA-based medical countermeasure rapidly to market for civilian use, and to instill fear into the population for dominance and control.
	Bobby's book concisely and eloquently exposes these horrendous, inconvenient truths.
	And there are other quotes also about the book from other experts.
	But I want to jump into some of the bullet points of what the book is really talking about because it's critical that people understand this.
	This knowledge has to be shared far and wide.
	So the book talks about How former President Eisenhower warned us against the military industrial complex and how a, quote, scientific elite could hijack public policy and weaponize it, in essence, and use it against the American people to exploit the taxpayers for profits, but also to wield it as a weapon of power and control over the people.
	And Eisenhower was correct, and that's exactly what has happened.
	Now, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	has repeatedly spoken about Operation Paperclip.
	And the late Jim Mars, who was a good friend of mine, and I miss him.
	He was an author, M-A-R-R-S, if you want to look up his books.
	And I think the title of one of his best books was The Fourth Reich, which talked about how Nazi technology...
	Was imported into America via Operation Paperclip right after World War II, where the United States of America went to a bunch of Nazi scientists in medicine, in biology, in chemistry, and of course in rocketry.
	And physics, I should add.
	And they brought them to the United States under new names, new identities.
	It was a top secret program, Operation Paperclip.
	And as a result, NASA, as you know it today, has been run by people who were actual Nazis for many decades.
	And, of course, those original people are no longer working at NASA. I'm not implying that.
	But I'm saying that the fathers of modern-day NASA were, in fact, Nazi scientists.
	And that's not science fiction.
	It's not a conspiracy theory.
	It's called Operation Paperclip.
	And it's well-documented if you want to look for it out there.
	But the United States also brought in doctors from Japan.
	And other biological experts and so on.
	And by the way, the Nazis were running medical experiments on Jewish prisoners.
	This was part of what happened during the Holocaust.
	These are some of the crimes that were committed against humanity by the millions in the case of the Jewish people being partially exterminated at that time.
	Now, the Nazis, of course, also built Big Pharma.
	So the big mega corporation there was called IG Farben.
	And IG Farben was involved in these medical experiments and in the production and testing, ultimately, of Zyklon B, the gas, you know, the extermination gas that was used.
	Well, IG Farben was broken up after World War II. It was broken into three different companies.
	One of them is Bayer.
	So modern-day Bayer, the pharmaceutical giant, is quite literally an offshoot of the Nazi chemical giant conglomerate that committed crimes against humanity.
	Another company that's an offshoot is Basif, B-A-S-F. And Basif today manufactures over 40,000 chemicals in And these chemicals are used in medicine and textiles and adhesives and glues and also agriculture.
	Basif was a huge manufacturer of nitrogen-based fertilizer.
	And, of course, you know about the Haber-Bosch process where natural gas is turned into nitrogenous fertilizer, which is currently used to feed about half the population of the world.
	Well, Basif is one of the key companies, or at least they used to be, in Germany that produced this.
	But then the United States Navy blew up the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea, or under the Baltic Sea, cutting off Gazprom, which is Russia's natural gas company, cutting off that natural gas resource to Germany, and that's why BASIF no longer has that natural gas, and that's why BASIF is shifting its operations to, guess where?
	Oh, mainland China.
	Yeah, because they have energy in China.
	Interesting.
	So Operation Paperclip brought these mad scientists to the United States.
	And again, these scientists were Nazis.
	And these scientists were directly involved in technologies that resulted in atrocities against the Jewish people.
	Or in the case of Japan, Japan committed horrific atrocities against the Chinese people.
	I mean, so horrific that it would put Hamas to shame.
	If you think Hamas did crazy stuff on October 7th, well, then you need to look up the history of the Nanjing Massacre because you want to talk about atrocities.
	And I don't want to dwell on it, but we're talking about Japanese doing horrible, horrible things.
	I'm not even going to go into it, but they killed probably 300,000 Chinese in the Nanjing massacre.
	And that took place in 1937 and 1938, over roughly a two-month period.
	So we're talking about the Japanese Empire and the Nazi Empire.
	These were some really evil people.
	And the United States brought them to the U.S. and put them in what became the Department And put them in charge of medicine.
	Put them in charge of pharmaceuticals.
	Put them in charge of NASA. Okay?
	So if you're wondering...
	Where did all this evil come from that ends up in the pharmaceutical industry, in the vaccine industry, and the bioweapons research?
	Ah, guess what?
	Yeah, it came from these horrific monsters that ran Japan's atrocities or Germany's atrocities in World War II. That's where it traces back to, and that's all covered in this book, the Wuhan cover-up.
	Now, since the end of World War II, the U.S. empire has always found new excuses for To demand emergency powers to surveil the American people or to build bioweapons or to deploy nuclear weapons or whatever.
	They've always found a new war or they've created a new war, a new reason.
	I mean, we had the war on terror.
	Those were some scary years with George Bush running around.
	It's a war on terror!
	Terror!
	Everybody be afraid!
	And you're supposed to like panic every day and hand over all your freedoms to the federal government because George Bush said so while wearing a cowboy hat.
	That was insane.
	And of course, we all know the truth about 9-11 and what really happened and so on.
	So these governments will stage certain events or allow them to happen in order to get the power that they want.
	And then Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	talks about the anthrax attacks that took place in 2001.
	I don't know if you recall that, but there were some anthrax envelopes, I think, that were mailed to...
	I forgot who got them.
	Somebody in government.
	Maybe it was senators.
	I forgot.
	Someone was mailing around supposedly anthrax.
	Well, it turns out that this anthrax came from the military labs run by the United States government.
	So that was a false flag operation.
	They were sending anthrax around, and no doubt the CIA was planting news about this in the media.
	Oh, my gosh, anthrax.
	We're all going to be attacked by terrorists, and everybody would be afraid of anthrax.
	And so this was used to justify massive government funding into, quote, defensive bioweapons research.
	Now, what is defensive bioweapons research?
	Well, that's research where you build bioweapons and you just say you're building them because you want to know how to protect against them, but actually you're just building more bioweapons.
	And so this defensive research has always been a cover story.
	And this is covered in great detail in RFK's book, by the way.
	It's not defensive research.
	It's offensive research, which kind of reminds me of Israel again.
	Israel's like, we have the right to defend ourselves.
	Well, you've dropped like 45,000 kilotons of bombs on mostly civilians.
	That's not defense!
	That looks a whole lot like offense to me.
	Same thing with bioweapons.
	They're saying, oh, we're just building them for defense, but then somehow they get released onto the world and now it's offense, isn't it?
	Now people are dying and then they have bioweapons in the jabs and now they're lining people up and injecting them and that's not defense.
	They tell you it's defense, but it's actually offense, right?
	They tell you, oh, you need this to protect you from COVID. But what they're actually doing is It's making you sick and injecting you with mRNA technology, self-replicating of protein sequences in your cells, and all of a sudden you're circulating spike proteins, and your blood is clotting, and you're having heart attacks and strokes and myocarditis, and you're dead.
	Well, that's offensive bioweapons research, not defensive.
	And that's exactly what happened.
	And remember, the anthrax false flag of 2001 was a key component in making this happen.
	Now, of course, this book also covers Fauci.
	Fauci, our favorite bioweapons bureaucrat, the head of NIAID, and how he funneled money through EcoHealth Alliance, and in essence found loopholes around the outlawing of bioweapons research in the United States.
	In order to funnel money to the Wuhan lab, And to conspire with Chinese scientists, including the so-called Batwoman, in order to do gain-of-function research, which is adding lethality to the viral strain bases that were produced by the Pentagon under the Department of Defense.
	So in other words, in the United States, they already had SARS-CoV-2, but they needed to make it more deadly.
	And so they sent it to China and they funneled money through EcoHealth Alliance and gave it over to Wuhan.
	And then in Wuhan, they added gain of function and made it really deadly.
	And then, of course, released it upon the world just in time.
	For all the lockdowns so that vote by mail could dominate the 2020 election and massive cheating could take place and boot Trump out of the White House and bring in the puppet Joe Biden, who probably has no idea who he is at this point.
	Now, this book, The Wuhan Cover-Up, also talks about how this was all scripted.
	So Fauci and Bill Gates had predicted this pandemic.
	They'd run simulations.
	This is already well documented.
	You know about this.
	And you know that in the so-called simulations, they basically plotted out everything that we saw.
	The media reports, the panic, the hospitals being overrun, and then the fatalities in the hospitals, and then the time when the vaccine wasn't available, and then how everybody was demanding a vaccine, and then they made it available, and everybody started getting jabbed.
	And by the way, they have more simulations that they're running right now for the next phase of this because this isn't over.
	And a big part of these simulations is that it trained these public health officials to jump on the bandwagon of imposing authoritarian controls such as lockdowns and mask mandates and vaccine mandates.
	And wasn't it amazing how quickly that happened, how suddenly every official across America at the county level, at the city level, the state level, in schools, universities, corporations, every official all of a sudden was on board with, you have to wear a mask. every official all of a sudden was on board with, You have to take a vaccine.
	You want to fly on this airplane?
	You have to get jabbed.
	You have to lock down your children.
	You have to stand six feet apart, for God's sake.
	You have to talk to me from behind this plexiglass.
	It's like, what?
	And by the way, I never understood how a virus knows that five feet is dangerous and seven feet is safe, or six feet is safe.
	It never made any sense to me.
	But the entire system of government and corporations, they just brushed aside every civil right in America and just demanded, do what we say.
	Do what we say.
	And hundreds of lawsuits have been in progress since then to try to unravel that pattern of authoritarianism.
	And many of these lawsuits have succeeded, by the way.
	A lot of things have been overturned, including the military vaccine mandate.
	And we saw in the last few months the United States military begging people, sign up!
	And they underscore, no vaccine required.
	It's kind of like...
	Please, we're begging you.
	We need people to die for Israel, for God's sake.
	We need people to die for Ukraine.
	Come on.
	No vaccine required.
	What are you waiting for?
	Join up.
	And for some reason, they're not getting the recruits they need.
	I wonder why.
	Maybe it's because, well, they pissed off all the young people over the whole vaccine mandate.
	And by the way, what young American man wants to sign up and go die for Ukraine or Israel?
	I'd rather stay home and play Xbox, I'm pretty sure.
	Anyway, continuing in this book, the Wuhan cover-up, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	talks about The SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon itself and how it was clearly engineered to be incredibly lethal through the gain-of-function research that added what's called the furin cleavage site, which is a specific morphology that makes it a lot more effective at disassembling your cells, essentially.
	And then it talks about the cover-up, how Fauci and others were involved in the cover-up, even though they knew that this came from a lab, They publicly went out and stated that, no, it didn't come from a lab.
	It was not built in a laboratory.
	It was not engineered.
	Those were all complete lies.
	And then they recruited the Lancet, the medical journal, to condemn the so-called conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.
	So this whole disinformation campaign that was pushed by the science establishment, Which was really the biological weapons death industry, effectively the military industrial complex.
	They conspired to hijack the medical journals, the science journals, and to get those journals to lie to the people of the world.
	I mean, they knew they were lying.
	And this, by the way, shatters any remaining credibility of the Lancet or the New England Journal of Medicine or the Journal of the American Medical Association or, frankly, a lot of other popular mainstream journals like Nature.
	They lie.
	They lie on command.
	They lie when they're ordered to lie by the Pentagon or the CIA or Fauci or a long list of other people.
	So you can't trust medical journals to tell the truth.
	You can't trust science journals.
	And COVID proved that.
	And that's one of the things that's documented in this book.
	And this is why, by the way, if you haven't seen my interview with Andrew Huff, H-U-F-F, just go to Brighteon.com and search for the name Huff or Andrew Huff and you'll see that interview.
	It was actually one of the very first interviews I filmed in the new Brighteon studio.
	And that's why the audio wasn't perfect on that interview.
	We didn't have it all nailed down at that time.
	But that's a really fascinating interview.
	It's definitely worth checking out.
	And then from the Wuhan book, by the way, RFK Jr.
	talks about this CIA whistleblower.
	And I think he's referring to Huff, by the way.
	Saying that senior officials bribed analysts to change their assessment from a likely lab origin to, quote, unable to determine.
	And so there were bribes paid to certain key people in certain positions in the scientific community in order to continue the cover-up.
	And then guess who benefited from all of this?
	Oh, Bill Gates and Fauci and other officials, and some of whom were getting royalties on patents involved in all of this.
	And of course, the corporations, big pharma, the vaccine manufacturers, they reaped tens of billions of dollars in revenue over the period of a couple of years.
	While millions of lives were destroyed.
	Well, really, probably at least 20 million people have been killed around the world by these vaccines.
	And like I said earlier, at least 100 million have been maimed, injured, disabled.
	So we're talking about enormous numbers of human beings whose lives have been, if not destroyed, severely negatively impacted.
	And then, because the FDA offers this protection of big pharma through its emergency use authorization designation, which does not mean approved, but the media calls it approved.
	That's not what it is at all.
	EUA actually means it is not approved, but it's such an emergency that we're going to throw this experimental drug out into the public space, even if it might be dangerous.
	But the public was never told that by the media.
	They just lied and said, well, the FDA approved it.
	Must be safe.
	Everybody line up and take it.
	It was never approved.
	Never subjected to long-term clinical trials.
	Even to this day.
	So 100 million lives harmed.
	At least 20 million people dead.
	But tens of billions of dollars changed hands and went into the hands of powerful corporations and defense contractor companies.
	While America's small businesses were utterly destroyed by lockdowns and people were treated like cattle.
	And to this day, you have quarantine camps still under construction or being operated in places like Washington State.
	And you have New York under Governor Hochul now claiming that they have the right.
	And this was affirmed by the New York Supreme Court that they have the right to come kidnap you from your home.
	To take you away from your home.
	Take you away from your family.
	Throw you into a concentration camp.
	If they simply suspect that you may have been exposed to something that they call infectious disease.
	Even if you show no symptoms whatsoever.
	The New York Supreme Court affirmed that power...
	By the state of New York, which means you are not safe in your home in New York.
	You have no civil rights in New York.
	Not even constitutional rights.
	This is all the result of what happened during COVID. The authoritarian implementation of power.
	The psychological operation to instill the American people with a sense of incredible fear.
	And the greed-driven desire by corporations and powerful people to line their own pockets with money while innocent people suffered and died.
	And guess what?
	They can't wait to do it again.
	Because this model works so well for them.
	And this is really one of the final warnings in the book, the Wuhan cover-up, is that this is now the new forever war.
	They can run this script at any time, on demand.
	And the thing is, they don't even need an actual virus.
	Because they can just use the media.
	They can fake it.
	They can make people sick in other ways and then claim they're all getting sick from a virus and tell everybody to go to the hospital.
	Then they can just start murdering people in the hospitals again.
	And then start showing fatality numbers.
	Gosh, look how many people died.
	Yeah, you're killing them in the hospital with the ventilators and denying them access to things like ivermectin.
	You're killing them, but the media will say, no, they died from the new pandemic.
	You know, the China pig bird cow flu or whatever they want to call it this year.
	It's almost like the Chinese calendar.
	It's monkey flu year.
	No, it's rooster flu year.
	I mean, they're just going through the Chinese zodiac is what they're doing.
	Every animal under the sun can cause a new pandemic.
	That's the story.
	And they've got most people believing it and buying into this.
	So are they going to run this again?
	Absolutely they are.
	Why wouldn't they?
	Think about it.
	The globalists want to achieve depopulation.
	They're trying to exterminate humanity.
	They all believe that the only way to save the earth and to stop climate change is to reduce human population.
	This is their way to do it.
	One of the ways.
	And they get rich in the process?
	And they get power over people?
	And some of them are satanic, I think, because they love to see other people suffer.
	They get their jollies on this kind of thing.
	Some really sick people out there.
	Well, if you want all the details of this, pick up the book.
	Or you can also get the audiobook.
	In fact, I'm just checking that out right now.
	Yeah, it's available on audible.com.
	The Wuhan cover-up.
	Let me find out what's...
	22 hours and 9 minutes of seat-gripping audio.
	Yeah.
	Man, can you believe this?
	You want to spend a weekend freaking yourself out?
	Listen to 22 hours of the Wuhan cover-up.
	Whew!
	Man.
	I think I'm going to do that, actually.
	I think this would be a good use of my time.
	While I'm doing ranch work and things like that, I always listen to audiobooks.
	I don't know if you know this about me, but I've not watched TV for over 25 years, I think it is.
	I don't own a television.
	I don't subscribe to any TV networks or satellite networks or Netflix or anything like that.
	But I do listen to lots and lots of audiobooks.
	Especially while I'm doing other work, which I really enjoy it.
	For me, it's a vacation.
	To get on a tractor, And plug in an audiobook and just drive the tractor and listen and learn.
	Man, that's heaven for me, actually.
	That's a pure vacation.
	If you feel the same way, maybe you listen to audiobooks while you're driving or cooking or doing dishes or whatever.
	Hey, I listen to audiobooks while I'm cleaning out the chicken house from all the chicken droppings.
	It's always a fun job.
	Try not to do that when it's A little bit wet outside.
	You want a very dry day when you're dealing with cleaning out the chicken house.
	Trust me on that point.
	In any case, you can get this book, the Wuhan cover-up, at booksellers everywhere.
	It's available now.
	You can get the audible version.
	Of course, you can also get it for people for Christmas presents.
	Merry Christmas!
	How would you like to be completely horrified by the truth about the bioweapons program?
	Yeah, give it to your friends who took the jab.
	Oh, enjoy sleepless nights!
	No, I'm kidding.
	Look, we do want people to be informed, and the truth is horrifying.
	There's just no getting around that.
	Some people just aren't ready to hear the truth and whatever.
	Those are usually the same people who kept taking the jab.
	But a lot of people are ready for the truth now, especially as they've seen friends or relatives or siblings or children die after taking the jab.
	There are a lot more people ready to hear this message now than ever before.
	I think the timing of this book is very good.
	Honestly, I do not know how Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	has any time to write books like this.
	I am personally just baffled by this.
	I mean, certainly he must have had help.
	I'm still trying to go through and finalize the proofreading of my book called Survival Nutrition, which I was supposed to finish a year ago.
	I do hope to finish it over the Christmas holiday here.
	That's what I'm doing for 10 days or whatever it takes.
	And maybe that'll be published next year sometime, maybe by August, I'm hoping.
	But I don't know how Bobby Kennedy here, I don't know how he has time to do all these books and have them so incredibly well documented.
	But he does.
	Well, he's done a good job on this one, and that's why I'm covering it today.
	Now, I'd like to cover a little bit of what's in the news right now that's related to this Zero Hedge had a story about how Pfizer's shares have really plunged because Pfizer issued some full-year guidance for 2024, and they said that their revenues were going to be much lower than what investors or analysts had expected them to be.
	The revenues are going to be around $60 billion, which still sounds like a lot of money, but it's not as much as they...
	We're hoped to have.
	And as a result, Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies are actually seeing their stock prices collapse right now.
	Well, guess what they need to boost those stock prices again?
	What do they need?
	Oh, another pandemic!
	Yes.
	So anytime the earnings are low, well, hey, guess what?
	The governments of the world that are pushing depopulation, all they have to do is release the Kraken, you know, release another Fauci freezer special.
	And then there's another panic and another PSYOP and another round of vaccines.
	And wouldn't you know it, Big Pharma had those vaccines ready.
	Huh?
	How did they know that?
	How did they get them ready so quickly if they didn't know that the pandemic was coming?
	I mean, look, it's all scripted.
	You're watching a Truman show here.
	It's all a blueprint.
	But you should know that big pharma is hurting for money right now.
	So if you see another plandemic released, well, don't be surprised.
	And then, by the way, there's a news story from vigilantnews.com.
	It says Italian health minister under investigation for murder for concealing COVID-19 vaccine deaths.
	And it talks about the former Italian health minister named Roberto Speranza, And he's under investigation for homicide.
	Now, I don't know who's investigating him for homicide.
	Is it police?
	You know, is it authorities?
	Whatever.
	But Greg Reese from InfoWars...
	Did a little video on this and Alex Jones retweeted it.
	He's been reactivated on X, by the way.
	And that's also causing half the internet to explode, which I think is really hilarious to watch.
	I mean, they banned Alex for five years and then he comes back and starts tweeting truths and radical fascists freak out.
	Oh my God, you can't let him tweet the truth.
	In any case, I don't know where this is going to go.
	But there is some kind of investigation.
	By the way, tomorrow I'm going to be on the show with Alex Jones talking about AI and how the human resistance defeats Skynet and how we use AI tools to defend and empower human beings through decentralization and open source models rather than allowing ourselves to be overrun by centralized,
	corporate-run or government-run, weaponized AI. So if you want to catch that live, I guarantee you it's going to be worth watching.
	And that will begin at, let's see, 1 p.m.
	Central.
	And that'll go for two hours.
	So from 1 p.m.
	to 3 p.m.
	Central at Infowars.com or Band.Video.
	And Alex and I will have a really bombshell conversation about that.
	And that's going to get a lot of Because, well, Alex now, his shows and his videos are getting millions of views on X, which really is thanks to Elon Musk reinstating Alex's account.
	And apparently Alex's account, which is, by the way, real Alex Jones, apparently it's not shadowbanned.
	Now, my account is still shadowbanned.
	My account is at HealthRanger.com.
	It's seriously shadow banned.
	I post something and it'll get like, you know, 12 views or something.
	Alex posts something and it'll get like 12,000 or 12 million, you know.
	So I don't know when Elon is going to get around to unshadow banning the rest of us.
	But I'm not waiting around for that.
	I've got my own platforms, you know, brighteon.social and brighteon.com, and I'm also on Telegram and so on.
	We're getting the word out.
	We're changing the world despite the censorship.
	That's what's really cool about this.
	But I am glad that Elon is on board with...
	At least attempting to reverse some of the censorship.
	He's got a long ways to go still.
	There's still a lot of censorship on Twitter, but hey, he's doing way better than Jack Dorsey ever did.
	That's for sure.
	So, you know, keep it going, Elon.
	Sooner or later, maybe even the Health Ranger will be able to speak without being muzzled on X. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
	By the way, there was a story on InfoWars yesterday that I had to share with you.
	I think we're covering this story, too, on naturalnews.com.
	But I think InfoWars covered it first.
	Etsy accused of facilitating child pornography ring via sales of expensive pizza JPEG files.
	And General Mike Flynn raises alarm over suspicious posts.
	So I don't know if you're familiar with the whole pedophile universe.
	I mean, I hope you're not.
	It's been horrifying to even learn some of the basics of it.
	But apparently, pizza is a code word for pedophilia and child porn.
	Specifically, cheese pizza is...
	It means child porn.
	And for the longest time, I didn't know why, and then I read an article that said it's the same initials.
	Cheese pizza is CP, and CP is child porn.
	So cheese pizza means child porn.
	And on Etsy, there was an account, well, actually several accounts, that were offering...
	Like cheese, pizza, digital files, a download, and one of them was offered.
	It was $4,000.
	And it said, low in stock, only one left.
	Pizza file, instant download, encrypted.
	And $4,000, and it's a picture of a little girl eating a piece of pizza.
	This appears to be an ad selling pizza.
	You know, a rape encounter with a young child.
	And this same phenomenon has been seen on other websites that are sort of retail or e-commerce sites that allow third-party vendors to come in and have listings.
	There's another listing on Etsy.
	Now, these have been removed since then.
	But there was another listing that was called a rare find, children's overalls.
	And it shows...
	A little child, I don't know how old she is, maybe four.
	I don't have children, so I don't know how old they are.
	But she looks really young.
	Walking around, I guess you would call her a toddler.
	But the listing, if you can believe this, on Etsy was $35,210 for this child in overalls.
	And, you know, nobody's going to pay $35,000 for the clothing, the overalls of this child.
	Clearly, as horrifying as it is, this is a listing for the child.
	And then there was another listing that showed a picture of pizza.
	You could download, you could get the picture of the pizza for $9,000.
	Yeah, $9,000.
	There's another one, a little boy eating pizza.
	It's $14,000.
	There's a bunch of listings out there.
	I mean, you get the idea.
	There's some sick, twisted things going on.
	And there are people paying, I guess, big dollars to rape little kids.
	This is happening, and it's happening on Etsy.
	And there were other listings.
	It was like a year ago or more where there was an online retailer that was selling a shelving, like a bookshelf, and it was like $12,000 for this bookshelf.
	And it was a cheap bookshelf that might cost actually like $300 or something.
	It was $12,000, and then the bookshelf had the name of like an African girl.
	And you know, I mean, they're selling, you know, a child.
	So if you don't think human trafficking is happening, you are not paying attention to what's really going on.
	It's sick.
	And by the way, just as a side note, why does the mainstream media always cover up a cheese pizza or, you know, pedophiles, human trafficking?
	Why is the mainstream media always saying, oh, that's not happening?
	They're covering it up.
	And they follow the CIA. So here's something you need to know.
	And then I'll move on because this is a horrifying topic.
	But what the drug smugglers realized long ago is that if they smuggle $100,000 worth of marijuana into America, they obviously take a big risk of getting caught.
	And then once they sell the marijuana, it's gone.
	And then they have to bring in more.
	But if they smuggle a young child into America, which they can do right out in the open by claiming that this is my child, even though they're not, the borders are wide open.
	The government is actually involved in child trafficking and child distribution.
	Well, the people who do that, they can take that child and they can sell that child over and over and over again in America, and they can make, as you saw, $10,000 per encounter for And they don't have to smuggle anything else into the country.
	I mean, that's how sick and twisted this is.
	But they can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars off of one child.
	And then, when that child is all worn out from all the rape and abuse, guess what?
	They just have it murdered for the adrenochrome.
	And there are buyers for adrenochrome.
	And that probably fetches another $50,000.
	Child adrenochrome.
	It goes much deeper than I care to even talk about.
	This subject just totally freaks me out.
	So I am going to move on to a different subject here.
	I just wanted you to know that that is happening.
	All right.
	From humanevents.com, German military has only two days worth of ammo as European armed forces weaken.
	And this article cites a report from the Wall Street Journal.
	It's astonishing.
	Check it out.
	It talks about the British military, too.
	The British military only has, quote, 150 deployable tanks and perhaps a dozen serviceable long-range artillery pieces.
	What?
	It only has a dozen?
	High Mars type of artillery systems?
	A dozen?
	Twelve?
	It only has 150 tanks?
	They were saying that they might have to source rocket launchers from museums.
	Can you imagine?
	Oh, it's a museum piece.
	Can we still use it?
	Yeah, try it.
	Maybe it'll still work.
	The story talks about how France has fewer than 90 heavy artillery pieces.
	What?
	And Denmark has zero.
	No artillery, no submarines, no air defense systems.
	Wow, really?
	And Germany's army has, and this is according to the Wall Street Journal...
	Germany's army has enough ammunition for two days of battle.
	Two days.
	Do you realize that if Russia wanted to conquer much of Western Europe, that it technically could from a military point of view?
	I'm not saying that Russia wants to.
	They probably don't even want to conquer Western Ukraine because the Western Ukrainian people don't like the Russians.
	The Eastern Ukrainian people, they do tend to like Russians.
	They speak Russian.
	They're ethnic Russians.
	But Western Ukrainians are more sort of Western European.
	So Russia isn't trying to conquer Europe.
	But after all this talk about how Ukraine was going to defeat Russia and NATO was going to send the Russians scurrying back east to their home country and how the Russian soldiers were going to be demoralized and the Russians were running out of ammunition and the Russians were out of missiles and the Russians were so desperate they would have to resort to nuclear weapons.
	And all these other propaganda narratives that we were treated to for the last year and a half plus all bullcrap all completely made up.
	Nonsense.
	Guess who's out of weapons?
	NATO. European countries have no weapons.
	Virtually none.
	America.
	Run out of ammunition.
	The munitions have been depleted.
	The artillery pieces depleted.
	The tanks.
	Well, America still does have many thousands of tanks, but a whole lot of them...
	Would be destroyed very quickly if they were to engage Russia.
	Because Russia, with its Ka-52 helicopters, Russia's really good at destroying tanks.
	And mines and artillery-launched mines as well, and drones.
	Basically, eastern Ukraine has become a tank graveyard.
	Germany found that out pretty quickly.
	A bunch of Leopard 2s still sitting there, rusting away in the Donbass region.
	So when you have the Wall Street Journal here admitting all of this, you know something has changed.
	NATO has lost the war.
	America has lost the war.
	Russia has won the war with Ukraine.
	And it's done.
	It's just a matter of how this gets wrapped up at this point.
	What kind of surrender ends up being agreed to?
	What are the terms?
	How much land goes to which country?
	You know, this and that.
	That's all that's left.
	And that's why the United States is so desperately trying to distract people to focus on Israel at first, and then now China, because the U.S. wants a war with China.
	And that's foolish.
	The U.S. will lose a war with China.
	The U.S. will lose a war with anybody at this point.
	The U.S. lost the war with goat herders in Afghanistan.
	I mean, come on.
	Under the Biden regime, the U.S. can't win any wars at all.
	And if you didn't catch it, check out my interview yesterday with Colonel Tony Schaefer.
	And that's a really great interview that talks about U.S. military readiness and the problems with the Biden regime and the State Department, and also how much damage America has done to Europe, to Western Europe, and how Germany is suffering the consequences of the U.S. destroying the Nord Stream pipelines and so on.
	That's a great interview with Tony Schaefer, retired colonel.
	So be sure to check that out.
	And now today we're going to have the interview with Steve Kirsch.
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	Well, thank you for your support, and enjoy the interview here with Steve Kirsch.
	Welcome, everybody, to this interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and I'm joined today by Steve Kirsch and his Substack, which is very widely read and shared, is stevekirsch.substack.com.
	He's also S-T-Kirsch, K-I-R-S-C-H. That's his handle on X or Twitter.
	I think that Steve Kirsch has done some of the very best analysis and advocacy of truth-telling about the risks and the statistics associated with post-vaccine side effects and deaths of anybody in the world.
	And it's astonishing to me that Kirsch's conclusions aren't mainstream yet in mainstream media, but we're going to ask him why he thinks that is.
	Welcome to the show, Mr.
	Kirsch.
	It's an honor to have you on today.
	Thanks, Mike.
	Thanks for inviting me.
	It's a pleasure to be here.
	Well, it's long overdue.
	I should have had you on earlier, but I've been watching and reading your work for quite some time, and it's very compelling.
	And it's crazy that no one will debate you, number one.
	You want to talk about that for a second?
	You've challenged many people, and no one will debate you.
	Yeah, and they don't want to look at the evidence either.
	I was on a space last night on EXA, and there were all these doctors that have been challenging me and taking pot shots at me.
	And, you know, I think I was on there for like seven hours and trying to explain it.
	And to my amazement, there was one guy...
	Towards the very end, who got it, he said, yeah, he's right.
	The slope has to go down.
	And I said, bingo!
	You understand what I'm saying.
	You're the first guy in this room who understands what I'm saying.
	And the other people are focused on personal attacks, ad hominem attacks, insults.
	You don't know what you're doing.
	You don't know how to analyze data.
	They're telling me all this shit, but they're never telling me Here's my analysis of your data showing the correct way to do it, and here's what it shows, and how do you respond to that?
	So nobody ever takes my data and turns it around and says, yeah, but if you subtract out this, then you're going to get a completely different effect.
	And some people will say, well, according to my analysis, the vaccines are...
	Are lowering your all-cause mortality.
	And you see, vaccines never do that.
	So you have a little bit of a credibility problem there because vaccines are only supposed to reduce your chance of dying from the particular event.
	So they never lower baseline all-cause mortality.
	What they could do is, if they worked, They would prevent an increase in all-cause mortality.
	Now, we don't see that here.
	So even if you believe, if you think that all this data shows that the vaccines aren't killing anyone, there is absolutely no doubt That the vaccines are not preventing any deaths.
	So they lose either way, and they seem more intent on personal attacks or whatever.
	And then there's some people who actually refuse to look at the data, and they say, oh, well, you received stolen property, and therefore it's illegal for me to look at this data, even though the rest of the public can look at it I don't want to look at it.
	So I will say that your analysis is flawed and you don't know what you're doing, even though I haven't looked at your data.
	So there's all kinds of mental gymnastics they're jumping through to try to avoid looking at the numbers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, all I've been saying is, hey, look, if I'm wrong, just explain to me why the slope is going up, because the slope is supposed to go down.
	I know the law of gravity here.
	The law of gravity, effectively, for people who do what I do, the law of gravity says that if you got a bunch of people, like let's say you have a million people, and 5% of them will die a year, The law of gravity says that if you start with a million people and you've identified the million people, that fewer and fewer and fewer people die every day to get to the end.
	Now, that could vary if there's something that's going on in the background.
	Maybe there's going to be an event that increases the number of people that die in a day.
	And then there may be this pull-forward effect that then decreases the number.
	But on average, it goes down in a straight line.
	You know, with these perturbations, that's the way it works.
	And so it always works.
	And that's kind of the law of gravity.
	It's called the law of death.
	The number of people who die is proportional to the number of people who are available to die.
	Right, right.
	Very fundamental.
	Right.
	Well, it seems to me that if you take the same data that you are looking at and were to replace the word vaccine with, let's say, Ford Pinto, and And then you give the same data back to the same people criticizing you.
	If they thought it were data about cars, they would say, oh yeah, clearly this is causing mortality.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you know, and actually some people have suggested that I sort of depersonalize it that way and give it to college students to analyze and tell them that it's a soft drink or something.
	Exactly.
	And then, you know, say whether the soft drink was safe and effective for people.
	And then you get an honest answer and then you can say, ha, just kidding.
	Actually, I think that's a valid experiment because data analysts should not, of course, introduce their own bias of what the data are referring to.
	Absolutely.
	Now, what do you think in all of the analyses that you've completed so far and all the writing you've done, what do you think is the most compelling evidence now for a regular person, not a data scientist?
	What's the most compelling evidence that they could see right now that shows a correlation or causation between these vaccines and mortality?
	Yeah, you know, it's hard to give a single thing for an individual, because I don't know whether that individual is, like, highly trained in statistics or is just an average American.
	So, you know, let's assume it's just your friend and you're trying to convince them.
	You know, there's some things you can do, which is to appeal to their sort of sense of, you know, common sense that If the vaccines really worked and were really saving people's lives, then why are they hiding the data that would prove that?
	And so, you know, it's critical thinking skills.
	And so because they're trying to reduce vaccine hesitancy because there are people like me who are spreading, who they accuse of spreading misinformation, and they never challenge us, first of all.
	So that's a huge red flag that everybody on our side is saying, hey, let's have a debate.
	Let's have a challenge.
	Let's do it recorded one-on-one.
	Let's talk through the data.
	Let's stop with the ad hominem attacks.
	And let's stop with the character assassinations and the appeal to authority and all this stuff, and let's just focus on the data.
	We're calling for that.
	They're not.
	We are calling for data transparency.
	We want the data to be made public.
	The other side doesn't.
	You know, so just those things alone.
	And then the calling for the censorship.
	Absolutely.
	It's like when the White House says that these people should be censored, every time you have somebody calling for censorship, they're always on the wrong side of the issue.
	No exceptions in history.
	And people still can't figure this out.
	So those are sort of tip-offs.
	You don't have to be very sophisticated to figure that out.
	Now, if you want to go to the next level of detail, I could show you the plots of you take a fixed cohort.
	You say, here are people who got dose number one, or here's people who got dose number two, or here's people who got dose number three.
	And I will show you that the deaths per day after they got the shot go up instead of down.
	It doesn't slope down.
	It's supposed to slope down.
	That's the law of gravity.
	And when you define the law of gravity, it means you have a killing machine.
	And when that slope is then tied to the time of an intervention, and it's correlated with that, because then if you take something that's at random times, and you don't see that line going up, you know, oh, wow, you only see that line going up when you look at it relative to this particular...
	A point in time where an event happened that might have been causing it.
	And so when you see the correlation happens with the event that's causing it, and when you look at other vaccines, for example, that are given maybe over the same year, over a given period of time, and there's no signal there, then you have to say that, hmm, interesting, we see this huge signal when we tune to the Days since dose given.
	And when we sort of tune our radio to another channel, we just hear static.
	Right?
	Instead of the strong signal.
	And so there are all sorts of things that people can look at.
	And I think, to me, the most stunning was when I compared the pneumococcal vaccine to the COVID vaccine in the same year.
	So given in the same year.
	And that was a stunning curve because one curve goes up and the other curve goes down.
	And, you know, there's like, it's a straight line.
	One's a straight line down, and the other one's like a straight line up, you know, or upwards.
	And they couldn't be more different.
	And they're in exactly the same year, and they're given around the same time of year to the same population.
	So, hard to explain, you know?
	The only thing that varied, the only thing that was different was the vaccine.
	Why did one slope up and the other one slope down?
	Yeah.
	Like, no, I'm not supposed to work that way.
	And yet, you know, we hear corporate media making all kinds of excuses for the excess deaths in 2021 and 2022 and so on and saying, well, it was people committing suicide or it was people not being fit because they didn't go to the gym because of lockdowns and they all died because they couldn't go work out or whatever.
	But if you look closely at these excuses, they don't make any sense.
	They don't add up.
	I haven't seen any compelling rebuttal Yeah.
	Well, they certainly don't explain why, okay, you give the pneumococcal vaccine, the slope goes down, and you give the COVID vaccine, the slope goes up, and it's in the same cohort, and it's the same period of time.
	How do you explain that?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	That's the problem.
	So then let's talk about the attempts by what I'm going to call the mainstream scientific community, or maybe they're, I can't even call them scientific at this point, but mainstream science industry.
	They've really gone overboard to try to shut down your message and to try to, you know, attack you personally or censor you, as you already spoke about.
	But why isn't, you know, you and I were both taught, I believe, that science is a self-correcting system.
	Science is open to evidence that's contradictory.
	And the contradictory evidence will be dismissed by rationality and logic and data.
	And yet, none of those things are happening here at all.
	No, and you know, Mike, we have the same problem with autism.
	Just as an example, I'm picking autism because autism is a huge, huge problem.
	And it's getting worse and worse every day.
	And the thing is that it's been known what the cause of all of these autism cases are.
	For 25 years at least.
	25 years!
	We've known it!
	And the CDC actually did a study of vaccines and autism, and they found that, oh shit, there was a signal.
	So they notified the researcher on on the project to destroy all the data that links vaccines and autism so that the paper would come out and said there's no link because they didn't want to embarrass themselves So this guy is named William Thompson.
	He used to work at the CDC. I think he still does.
	He's not returning my phone calls anymore.
	I covered William Thompson.
	He was a whistleblower.
	Yeah, he's a whistleblower.
	He basically covered it up for, what, like 10 years, right?
	It was like 10 years.
	He didn't say anything.
	Yeah, and then he went public with it, and then they silenced him.
	Yeah, and they silenced him.
	And they made him sign a statement saying, well, you know, and it's like, there's no way!
	The data he destroyed, he was told to destroy just the data that was incriminating for the vaccine.
	I mean...
	This is black and white stuff.
	And he's not allowed to testify in Congress about it.
	And to this day, the American public is being told, they're being gaslit, saying, vaccines don't cause autism.
	Bullshit!
	I will bet anybody $10 million in the world you think vaccines don't cause autism?
	No possible way.
	And the easiest way, you know, for autism, it's super easy.
	You say, hey, how many kids do you know or have you heard of that got autism, that turned autistic, you know, like overnight?
	Within, say, seven days of a shot or 24 hours of a vaccine shot, what's the number?
	And they'll say, oh, well, I know two, three, four, five, six, seven, whatever.
	It depends on who you ask.
	But basically, there'll be a very large number.
	And then you say, okay, so how many people do you know who got autism like 24 hours right before they were supposed to get a vaccine shot and they just got it then?
	And the answer is that person doesn't exist.
	So how can all these people exist the day after and nobody can name a single case in the freaking world?
	There's no case where somebody turned autistic overnight the day before they were supposed to get vaccinated.
	You're exactly right.
	Yeah, and it's so obvious, and yet here we are 25 years later, and the medical community says, oh, vaccines don't cause autism.
	There's no proof that every study has failed to find the link.
	Well, yeah, absolutely.
	And look, back in 2006, I was covering Dr.
	Andrew Wakefield at the time, and they destroyed his career and his reputation.
	And his research did not even state that vaccines were killing children.
	It was simply talking about gastrointestinal side effects related to immunization.
	He wasn't an anti-vaxxer at all, but they destroyed his reputation.
	But I have to ask you, Given the number of children that are autistic, and I think it's what, 1 in 50 or 1 in 40?
	It depends on males versus females.
	Officially, they say it's 1 in 30.
	I think it's much higher than that.
	I surveyed my friends, and I got like...
	It was a huge percentage.
	I think it was maybe like one in four of my friends are affected by autism in their household.
	Well, I pray to God it's not one in four, but even if it's anywhere in between the numbers I said and what you said, it's a horror show.
	But I have to ask you, you must have come to some conclusion about why.
	Why would an agency like the FDA But knowingly, or the CDC or NIH or whatever, they know.
	The data scientists, they are fully aware of the links between vaccinations and autism.
	Why would they continue to cover this up, even maliciously, fraudulently, like the example you gave?
	You know, that would be a criminal offense if you were a pharmaceutical company pushing a fraudulent drug onto the market by destroying data.
	I mean, that would be, you know, you could be arrested and charged for that.
	But the FDA does it.
	Why are they willing to do this, in your view?
	They're doing it to protect the reputation of the CDC and the FDA. Because if people ever found out That the FDA and the CDC were pushing drugs that have caused this autism epidemic in the world.
	People would be furious.
	And they wouldn't trust the FDA or the CDC again.
	So what they do is they just basically gaslight, they attack, they do a wake field on anybody who tries to speak out.
	So you have these top autism researchers who know absolutely That vaccines are causing autism and are the primary reason we have autism.
	But they stay silent so that they can keep their grant proposals and maybe try to find a way, a workaround, rather than speaking out and stopping this from happening.
	And so...
	But, you know, basically they don't want to lose their funding.
	And I was warned by a friend of mine who said, look, you know, you can expose them, but they're doing good work.
	They're trying to ameliorate the problem by trying to figure out some sort of way to To treat people who become autistic.
	And my response is, well, it's way better to prevent the problem in the first place than try to clean up the mess.
	It's like Humpty Dumpty.
	You can't put Humpty Dumpty together again once he falls off the ledge.
	Well, that's right.
	I mean, there's neurological scarring, essentially, that takes place in many of these children that can never be healed, although I know some can make tremendous recoveries from it, but some never can.
	But with COVID, now with COVID vaccines, this whole issue of the side effects of vaccines and the harm moved out of the realm of just autism and children and let's say some young teenage girls typically being killed by HPV vaccines.
	Then it became everybody.
	So everybody was a target.
	Elderly people were dying.
	Young people, athletes dying.
	People, middle-aged people were dying.
	But as you and I know, Steve, dead people don't talk, right?
	Dead people can't say what happened to them.
	Many of them don't even know.
	They took the vaccine on faith.
	They died.
	And then it can be said they died from something else, which is exactly what's happening.
	So how many deaths does it take for the killing to stop, you know?
	What do you think?
	Yeah.
	Well, I think we're way past that point, Mike, because everybody's noticing it.
	Everybody is noticing the number of, wow, concert canceled.
	Wow, that's never happened before.
	Oh, a player drops on the field in the middle of a play in the NFL and they call it commotion quarters.
	Wow, that's never happened before.
	You know, people are giving speeches and they just fall over dead right in front of all the people.
	That's never happened before.
	A newscaster just kind of topples over.
	I mean, you know, maybe these things have happened before, but they're not happening anywhere close to the frequency that they're happening now.
	So Mark Crispin Miller, for example, has a substack.
	And I asked him, I said, how many people have you cataloged where you have these suspicious deaths, where they die suddenly?
	He said, this is about 10,000.
	And I said, 10,000?
	Wow, that's off the charts.
	And he says, yeah.
	Yeah.
	No doubt about it.
	What are the best estimates of worldwide deaths or U.S. deaths stemming just from COVID-19?
	My estimate's over 10 million.
	Dennis Rancor has an estimate of 17 million.
	And, you know, so it's in that ballpark.
	It's in the 10 million ballpark.
	I don't think there's any doubt about that.
	There are too many confirmatory estimates that all put it in the range of one per thousand doses on average.
	And it could be a factor of two less.
	It could be a factor of three less than that.
	It could be a factor of two more than that.
	But, you know, it's order of magnitude.
	That's what we see.
	We see this from surveys that are done.
	Mark Skidmore did a survey that was done.
	The Rasmussen Reports did a survey.
	An ethical skeptic then did an extrapolation off that survey.
	I've done various surveys.
	I've looked at the VAERS data.
	I've done the...
	Under reporting factor in VAERS to estimate the number of excess deaths killed by the vaccine, I've done this extensive analysis of this New Zealand data that I was given to broadcast to the world.
	That came in Right at 1,000, 1 per 1,000 doses on average.
	And so all these things are just all coming and saying the same thing.
	Somewhere on the order of 1 per 1,000 doses Is pretty much what we normally expect for excess deaths for people.
	And that's not at all surprising, because if you look at the number of vaccine-injured people, people who got this shot and are vaccine-injured, what would you say it is, Mike?
	Would you say it's one per hundred?
	Oh, easily, if not more.
	Easily.
	So how is it such a stretch to believe that if one per hundred or five per hundred are injured by the vaccine?
	And we know it's higher than that because we know that 42% of Americans would join a class action lawsuit to sue the COVID vaccine makers.
	Right?
	42%, this is from a Rasmussen Reports poll, and they're one of the most accurate pollsters in America.
	And 42% of Americans want to sue that would join a class action suit for the drug companies.
	Okay, that's a lot of injury, Mike.
	That's not 1 or 2%.
	That's 42% feel that they want to join in class action.
	Now, if you've got 42%, is it a stretch to think that 1 out of 1,000 of those people, effectively, that 1 out of 1,000 people compared to 42 out of 100, I mean, that's a tiny fraction of that that died.
	It's not at all, it doesn't stretch any kind of belief.
	And also, if you look at the FRED database, which are these disabilities, and you see this thing, it's just taken off.
	It's just going through the roof.
	And you look at the insurance claims and so forth.
	I mean, this is a disaster.
	Well, and it's a disaster that's being accelerated because there's, as you're well aware, a lot of talk of incorporating COVID vaccines into annual flu shots, for example.
	And jabs are still being promoted.
	And there's a lot of suspicion that, well, there are other odd things floating around out there that may result in a new round of vaccine mandates or lockdowns or restrictions if you're not vaccinated.
	So this horror, I mean, we may have only experienced the opening chapter so far.
	Yeah.
	I hope it doesn't get any better than this, but I haven't been super accurate on my predictions.
	I thought when this first happened and I realized, you know, I started having, I had friends who died and I had friends who were injured from this vaccine.
	And that's what got me to look at the numbers because, you know, I said, You know, I've never had so many friends who are injured and died after a vaccine before.
	I mean, like, I could count on zero fingers.
	There are no people that I know who have been injured by a vaccine before in my life.
	And now they're coming out of the woodwork.
	I mean, people dying or people who are severely, severely injured after getting the vaccine.
	And so I started looking into it and it's like, man, oh man, you cannot believe how bad this thing is.
	Yes, yes.
	But continuing my question there, since...
	Your conclusions have not been widely accepted yet.
	I hope they will be, because I agree with your conclusions.
	But since they haven't been, the field is very vulnerable right now, where people can be convinced to go to round two or round three.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	I'll tell you the big...
	So when this happened, by the way, when my friends started dying, I did the research and I looked at all the VAERS data and it was like everything I would unturn, it's like super damaging.
	And I told my wife, I said, honey, I'm going to write an article and in two weeks this will all be over.
	That's how naive I was when I started.
	I thought that if people knew the truth, that that would end it all.
	That you put two and two together and you show people how one plus one equals two.
	So now it's like, what causes this thing to end?
	The biggest convincer, Mike, that I found is people who are themselves vaccine injured or who Who lost someone to the vaccine.
	They saw someone who got the vaccine and that person went downhill right after they got the vaccine or shortly thereafter.
	They either lost mental abilities, they got turbo cancers, you know, like weird things started to happen.
	And then there's this background noise, this voice on Twitter that's, you know, Telling you about all these celebrities that die unexpectedly and so forth.
	And then you start being susceptible to that because you're seeing that happen to you in real life.
	And it's when it hits people personally, that's when they start saying, hmm, maybe these guys are right.
	Maybe I should stop listening to the authorities because I can see in my own eyes, I can see the cases of DeMar Hamlin and Boy, that's really suspicious.
	Commotio cordis, really, for a football player?
	You know, maybe, but really, really unlikely.
	And so there are all these unlikely events, and people are starting to put it together.
	I know my friends that thought I was a nutcase When I started telling them and warning them about the vaccine are now saying, you know, I'm not getting any more of these vaccines and my wife isn't either.
	So, you know, I'm now starting to hear these.
	And they're not saying, hey, Steve, you were right.
	But they're saying, yeah, we're kind of backing off.
	I've had that too.
	I've had a lot of people contact me about that.
	And I don't see anyone going the other way.
	I don't see anyone converting the other way.
	No, in fact, one couple I know that were all pro-vaccine, they took all the jabs at first, and then about a year into it, they texted me and said, guess what?
	We're not going to take any more vaccines.
	And then it was about six months later, they asked me, how do we detox these vaccines?
	I'm like, well, guess what?
	That's a big question mark right there.
	But they're moving along that spectrum.
	But I want to ask you about this, actually.
	You came out of the tech industry, I believe, correct?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And in the tech industry, if you sat down with a room full of engineers, and if you made your case about a data structure or about statistics, numbers, math, rationality, whatever, you didn't have irrational people disagreeing with you just because it was a religion or something.
	I mean, if you made your case, you won.
	But you're making your case now in vaccine data, and it's hitting a brick wall.
	I mean, I guess you didn't expect that.
	Right, because my experience space is with people in business and people who are rational thinkers, and there isn't this huge bureaucracy or machine that you're up against here.
	And so you're up against all of these vested interests.
	That are promoting this.
	You're up against the FDA and the CDC and the Gates Foundation and the mainstream media and Congress.
	And all these people have basically bought into the narrative and have been pushing these vaccines.
	So they would all have egg on their face if people figured out the vaccines were killing people instead of helping people.
	And people don't like to confront that.
	I don't have a...
	Other than Ron Johnson in Congress, I can't talk to any...
	I haven't talked to anybody...
	Well, maybe Congressman Bill Posey.
	But it's very few and far between the number of members of Congress who are clued into this and who realize what's going on and want to make a difference and want to fight to do the right thing.
	And it's very sad because they could easily say, hey, gosh, I was fooled.
	I'm not part of this.
	Thank you for letting me know.
	And now that I know I'm going to take action.
	But these people don't even want to have a conversation about it.
	Right.
	And that's, you know, it's really troubling.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I completely agree with you.
	And we only have a few minutes left.
	About to ask you for your final thoughts here on this.
	But, you know, we are a FDA-registered food facility, and we have surprise FDA inspections.
	And I can tell you that if we produced a product that made two people sick from E. Coli, right.
	Or if somebody released a peanut butter lot that was making 10 people sick, you know, the media would be all over it.
	The FDA would be all over it.
	They would seize the product.
	You'd be ordered to quarantine.
	You might face lawsuits from peanut butter.
	But when it's something injected into you that maybe kills one out of a thousand people, total silence, total silence.
	The double standard is astonishing.
	Yeah, maybe you should switch to making vaccines, Mike.
	Yeah, no thanks.
	I don't want to be around those spike proteins.
	No, thank you.
	I'd rather sell quinoa than SARS-CoV-2 derivatives.
	But you understand what I'm saying.
	I know you do.
	Absolutely.
	The standard is insane.
	Complete double standard.
	It makes no sense.
	We have a vaccine which has probably killed over half a million people in America.
	And what do they do?
	They're thinking about ways to bring it back, to encourage people to get it, maybe bring back mandates.
	And yet, if a baby formula kills one infant, we shut down the plant.
	That's right.
	It's crazy.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	It's insane.
	All right.
	Well, and along those lines, for food...
	So like we do microbiology testing in-house, you know, E. coli, salmonella, all that stuff.
	But then you find in the vaccines, people are finding all these DNA and RNA fragment contaminants that is like, did they even test their own product for its purity?
	And it seems like the answer is no.
	Well, they did test it for the contaminants.
	And the thing is that the regulators didn't specify the proper testing methodology.
	So they used, I think, some sort of...
	They used a technique which...
	It undercounts the level of contamination.
	And if you do a different technique, you actually find what's there.
	But the thing is that the regulators didn't specify, hey, you have to use the more accurate technique when you look for contaminants.
	So they get away with passing the bar.
	And the amazing thing is that...
	In the Pfizer vaccine, it has this SV40 promoter sequence.
	It's not in the Moderna vaccine.
	It's only in the Pfizer vaccine.
	And this SV40 promoter sequence, when they gave the FDA the documents explaining, hey, here are the things inside the vaccine, they basically erased the This SV40 promoter sequence, and they gave it to the FDA. And so the FDA knows that they erased it, and the FDA is doing absolutely nothing to hold these people accountable for that.
	I believe it.
	And there's all kinds of shenanigans in the lab testing of products like that, too.
	I mean, you know, I run a mass spec lab for heavy metals, and...
	I get documents from food suppliers that say, you know, lead, arsenic, cadmium, not detected, not detected, not detected.
	And I'm like, well, you know what not detected means?
	It means there's a little knob under the nebulizer that controls the x-axis of the spray.
	You turn that about two rotations and you lose three orders of magnitude of sensitivity.
	Boom.
	Not detected, you know?
	It's like, I want to know what you did detect.
	I want to know what the numbers are, not what you didn't see.
	I get that all the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, any final thoughts as we're wrapping this up?
	You know, you're not detected thing.
	It reminds me of the FDA excuse for not taking the vaccines off the market because of the DNA adulteration of the vaccines.
	And the excuse given by the FDA is that, well, we have no evidence that it causes any harm.
	And of course, the reason that they have no evidence is because they haven't looked.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	That's the thing.
	So, you know, bottom line is don't take any vaccines.
	Don't take the COVID vaccines.
	I don't care what your comorbidities are.
	I don't care what your age is.
	I don't care if you're young, old, you have diabetes, you have 15 comorbidities.
	Do not take the COVID shots.
	And the second thing is, do not take any other vaccines either, because every study that's ever been done, published in the peer-reviewed literature that compares the fully vaccinated with fully vaccinated, sorry, fully unvaxxed versus the fully vaxxed, shows that the fully unvaxxed are way healthier,
	Then the fully vaccinated, an example of that is for heart disease, where it's like 40% of Americans suffer from some sort of a heart disease, whether it's high blood pressure or what have you, and it's close to 0% for people who are fully vaccinated.
	unvaccinated, which is just absolutely stunning differential.
	But it's an example of the kinds of things, the kinds of benefits that people who are unvaccinated have.
	And the pediatric clinics, which do not vaccinate kids, the outcomes for the kids are so superior.
	And there's no autism, zero autism, even though they're surrounded 360 degrees by clinics that are giving vaccines and where autism rates are you know, the one in 35.
	And so how is this clinic avoiding all autism?
	Well, it's simple.
	They don't vaccinate.
	They recommend to the parents don't vaccinate.
	They're kids.
	And I can't even tell you.
	It's the sad thing.
	I can't even tell you who they are because they don't want to be known because if they were known, they would have their medical licenses taken away and they have to close shop.
	Well, we live in a nation where the routine medical sacrifice of children has been codified into the code of ethics of administering medicine.
	It's astonishing.
	And it's sad.
	You know, I had a medical appointment today, and the The nurse asked me, so have you had your flu vaccine?
	And I said, no, I'm not taking any flu vaccines.
	I'm not taking any vaccines.
	You show me the data first, and maybe I'll consider it.
	But when I've looked at the flu vaccine data, it looks like it kills more people than the flu does.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	All right, well, we've covered a lot of ground.
	There's a lot more we could do down the road, but I want to thank you for your time and remind people to check out your Substack page.
	It's stevekirsch.substack.com and also stkirsch is your handle on Twitter or X. Anything else you want to mention before we wrap it up?
	Nope.
	Stay safe.
	All right.
	Ask questions, demand to see the data before you get any medical interventions.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Great advice.
	Thank you, Mr.
	Kirsch.
	It's an honor to have you on.
	I really appreciate you.
	And thank all of you for watching today.
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