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April 14, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Apr 14, 2023 - Biden announces CLOSURE of Darien Gap camps after Michael Yon / Brighteon video

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	Welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Friday, April 14th, 2023.
	I'm We've got a lot of great news for you today.
	I'm laughing because my dog, Rhodey, there, you see him with the yellow ring?
	He's chewing on it.
	He's making squeaky noises.
	This is the one ring to rule them all, and he wants to have that ring.
	Hopefully he will chill out and we'll be cool.
	Anyway, we have some breaking news for you today.
	Number one, well, we have two interviews coming up.
	Dane Wigington from Geoengineering Watch with another warning.
	And analysis about this deluge of rain that just struck Florida 25 inches?
	Are you kidding me?
	That's crazy.
	What's he doing with the ring now?
	Show me camera two.
	He's just chilling with it.
	Okay, and then we also have an interview with George Howard from the Cosmic Summit 2023 event that is all about the comet impact theory and the destruction of ancient civilizations.
	That's coming up, and it should be quite an interesting interview.
	But the other breaking news, which is a huge success, actually, as of today, following our exclusive coverage of the San Vicente Camp in the Darien Gap region of Panama, and also yesterday with Michael Yan and his friends there, and Alex Jones had me on the show, Infowars.com, plus Natural News and Brighttown.com.
	After all of that, as of today...
	Proxy President Joe Biden and Mayorkas, the Border Chief Mayorkas, they have announced the closure of these camps.
	Which is a great victory because these camps served as a human trafficking highway that was victimizing all kinds of innocent people and families, like the ones that we interviewed yesterday.
	I still can't forget that girl, Emily, 16-year-old, with her family and her father and her brothers escaping Venezuela, going through the Darien Gap.
	We had a great discussion about that.
	And unfortunately, those kinds of people are victimized, and many of them are robbed, and a lot of the women are raped.
	People lose their lives.
	People are injured.
	They fall ill.
	Many of them don't make it.
	By some estimates, about 10% of the people who attempt that trek actually die along the way.
	And the other 90% are robbed and raped and trapped in many cases, like that family we interviewed yesterday.
	They are trapped in the, was it the Lajas Blancas camp in Panama?
	I think that was the name of it.
	They're trapped.
	They have no way out.
	So because of your support and you sharing these videos and sharing our stories, and I also posted it on Substack a few hours ago, but because of Alex Jones and Infowars and all of us in this community, we got the word out and we embarrassed the Biden administration so much that they had to announce the closure of these camps.
	So that is to Michael Jan's credit primarily.
	We just helped.
	You helped.
	We helped.
	Alex Jones helped.
	We're just getting the word out, telling the truth about what's there.
	But because Michael Yan was on site able to show this, then the world was able to see what the mainstream media would not cover.
	You will only see it from us and the independent media.
	And it started right here on BrightTown.com with Michael Yan.
	So we just changed history a little bit together, folks.
	A little bit.
	We just ended some level of human suffering.
	Those camps will be shut down, so people will stop being funneled into those camps.
	Now, don't get me wrong, Mallorcas and the Biden regime, they will find another way to increase illegal immigration into the United States because that's their 2024 election plan, obviously, is to just flood the country with as many as possible and then grant them all voting rights and amnesty. is to just flood the country with as many as That's their plan.
	So they will find another way.
	However, at least the horrific conditions of these camps will not remain part of that, and we were able to expose the hypocrisy of the Biden administration and the exploitation of these innocent people, families, and young children.
	They're being exploited by the United Nations and the United States in order to try to achieve the political goal of fracturing the United States and replacing the American people with other people.
	People from Haiti and the Middle East and Venezuela and wherever.
	Now, I do want to be clear on something, though, by the way.
	And some people took issue with me yesterday talking to that 16-year-old girl and, you know, it was heartbreaking to hear her story and what they were going through.
	I want smart people Ethical, moral people, Christian people, people who are going to contribute to America.
	I want the door open for legal immigration to high-quality people from around the world.
	I am open to that.
	In fact, my wife is an immigrant, and she's a great American, and her family escaped communists in China decades ago.
	We want to attract good quality people and people who will contribute to the American dream and be part of American society as long as it's legal and that that process is organized and not chaotic and it doesn't require people to trek through the jungles.
	What I'm opposed to is this mass illegal immigration.
	I'm opposed to the flooding of the United States with people from all over the world as a replacement project to replace the American people.
	I'm opposed to the human trafficking, obviously.
	I'm opposed to the US running these camps, funding elements of these camps, and attracting people into a trap where many of them will be harmed, maimed, robbed, raped, or killed.
	And as you may recall, in that video yesterday, Michael Jan was even telling me about women hiking down a mountain with their young infants, and they would have to toss their infants off the mountain into a river below, And then make the trek down the mountain themselves because it's too unsafe to carry their baby with them.
	So they would fling the baby off the mountain and let somebody else down there fish their baby out of the water.
	I mean, that's how insane this is.
	And that's the kind of thing that the Democrats and Biden and the United Nations are actually encouraging.
	They're inciting that.
	They're forcing people, or I should say...
	They're incentivizing people to put their children through that kind of hell.
	Can you imagine just flinging infants off the side of a mountain because that's the pathway to get to the San Vicente camp?
	But that's exactly what was going on.
	So as you can see from my screen here, from Breitbart.com, Biden's border chief shuts his deadly trail in the Panama jungle.
	The border chief, that's Mallorcas, is shutting down the deadly Darien Gap jungle trail in Panama that he built for migrants in 2021.
	Just as a huge wave of northbound migrants is now overwhelming his border management plans.
	And this shutdown news was just delivered on April 11th in a trilateral joint statement issued by Panama.
	Colombia, I think they misspelled that, and Border Chief Alejandro Mayorkas.
	So this is actually being done, I mean, this is in response to Michael Jan's efforts and our coverage and your help in sharing this news.
	We just forced them to do this.
	Michael Yan forced them to do this.
	If it wasn't for independent journalism and independent media, you would never know about this and those camps would continue to be expanded and more and more people would suffer, more women would be raped, more people would be murdered.
	It would be rather horrific.
	But of course we are censored.
	We are censored on orders of the White House.
	We are censored by a complicit big tech that is engaged in crimes against humanity and violations of the civil rights of the American people.
	This censorship is malicious.
	It is done in bad faith.
	They have an excuse for it.
	They call it misinformation or disinformation or fact-checking.
	But that's just the cover story.
	In reality, they just want to silence the voices that they don't like.
	And that's our voice.
	That's your voice.
	And so they want to cover up human trafficking, crime waves.
	They want to cover up vaccine damage.
	They want to cover up the crimes of the Biden family.
	They want to cover up the truth about what's going on in Ukraine with the biological weapons laboratories.
	They want to cover up the fact that the U.S. Department of Defense built the SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon and then handed it over to China for gain-of-function research.
	They want to cover all of this up so they engage in massive censorship.
	And you know that.
	And it's all coming out in court documents now.
	But the cost of that censorship is in human lives, in pain and suffering and death and economic damage.
	And this website, expose-news.com, has an excellent story that summarizes this.
	The Trusted News Initiative, led by the BBC News, contributed to 2 million excess deaths across the West by enforcing censorship of the dangers of COVID vaccinations.
	So this Trusted News Initiative, which has specifically named myself and Natural News and Vraityan, To Be Censored, It's complicit in the mass murder or manslaughter of millions of human beings.
	That's right.
	The Trusted News Initiative is run by mass murderers.
	They censor the truth in a way that causes people to die, and they do it maliciously.
	They do it knowingly.
	They know that what they're doing will cause people to die, and they do it anyway because they want control over the narrative.
	Now, this BBC Trusted News Initiative is a partnership, as you'll see here in the article.
	It includes organizations such as Associated Press, Google, Twitter, Reuters, Financial Times, and so on and so forth, Microsoft, Washington Post.
	Of course, they want to have total monopolization of every narrative.
	They want to control what you're allowed to hear or to say or to learn.
	In doing this, they cause severe...
	Human damage, human suffering, and economic damage.
	In this article, the severe consequences that news organizations, scientists, experts, and individuals who dared to publish or speak the truth that they faced were loss of livelihood.
	News organizations were censored and smeared.
	Resulting in loss of livelihood.
	Harassment and intimidation.
	The Ministry of Truth used its power to intimidate and harass individuals who challenged the official narrative.
	And all of this translated into economic damage, as well as, of course, a loss of lives, a loss of health, a loss of fertility.
	And what this article does is it starts to add up the excess deaths of Across, in this case, just the United States, Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, those excess deaths, and then if you go break it down country by country and look at the excess deaths, it turns out that the BBC's Trusted News Initiative and the complicit organizations of Washington Post, Reuters, Associated Press, Google, Facebook, you name it, They killed over 2 million people globally.
	And in reality, by the way, that number is more than 20 million people, and it dwarfs the actual Holocaust of World War II. But the conservative numbers that can be easily backed up are at least 2 million.
	But in reality, again, it's over 20 million people have died around the world from these vaccines and from a lack of access to treatments such as ivermectin.
	And censorship against ivermectin was enforced by the Trusted News Initiative, which, of course, shouldn't be called Trusted at all.
	It should be called the Anti-Human News Initiative or the Luciferian News Initiative because their role, their purpose, is to destroy human beings.
	Their purpose is to cause death and suffering and chaos.
	They are malicious bad faith actors, and they know exactly what they're doing.
	They've been given orders to do this.
	And the AP and Reuters and Washington Post, all of them are bad faith actors.
	There are people who work there who are just writing lies for paychecks, and they know that they're doing that.
	They know.
	If they watch my show and our work and all that we do for humanity and all the donations that we make, And all the lab science that we donate to various endeavors to have clean food and help people in every way that you can imagine.
	They know that we are good people, that we are moral, that we are ethical, but they smear us on purpose maliciously in bad faith because they've been ordered to do so and they need a paycheck so they become prostitutes, you know, media prostitutes who write malicious smears for money.
	But that's the path they've decided to take for whatever reason.
	Selfish reasoning, but you and I, we take a pro-human path.
	We care about fellow human beings.
	We have real empathy.
	We have real compassion.
	We want to save lives.
	We want to end human suffering.
	And frankly, that is simply incompatible with the ethnic cleansing on a global scale that's being carried out by the Trusted News Initiative in conjunction with the vaccine genocidal lunatics, the infertility pushers, the depopulation pushers who are the globalists.
	Just understand that trusted news initiative just means their monopolistic method for trying to control every narrative.
	And frankly, it's failing.
	It's absolutely failing.
	And in fact, Sayer G, I had him on yesterday, and in that interview he said that, you know, just natural news alone is almost as big as ABC News.
	And then he texted me earlier today and he said, you know, if you combine natural news and Brighteon, we're actually bigger than ABC News.
	We're bigger than a major news network in terms of our reach.
	Now, you know, you don't have to go shouting that to everybody out there because we try to pretend that we don't have any influence.
	But the truth is that there are more informed, intelligent people listening to us, the independent media on Brighteon and Natural News and Infowars and Epoch Times and all these other websites than any number listening to mainstream media.
	The only people still tuning into mainstream media are oblivious idiots who know nothing and who choose to remain ignorant.
	The people that know what's going on are tuned into independent media.
	So we appreciate your support.
	We need your support in order to continue to do this.
	We have an enormous base of support, by the way, from you, and you know what we're doing with that.
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	Now, why does food storage make a lot of good sense?
	Well, check out this story, also from Exposé-News.
	All UK airports must close within the next 10 years.
	Actually, they're going to leave two or three open, but all the non-major airports will close.
	Beef and lamb will be banned.
	Construction of new buildings will cease in the name of climate change.
	This is not hyperbole.
	This is not exaggeration.
	This is all true.
	And they link to the report from Oxford University and Imperial College London, all for the UK. They're saying all of this.
	They have to close down virtually all the airports.
	They have to end all consumption of beef and lamb.
	And in addition to this, in the Netherlands, of course, they're shutting down thousands of farms there.
	To just decimate food production on the European continent.
	We are watching the collapse of Europe.
	The energy collapse has already taken place.
	I mean, it's underway.
	It hasn't run its full course yet.
	It will get worse.
	The economic collapse is underway.
	The manufacturing collapse is accelerating there.
	The food, the farms...
	The grocery stores, rationing is going to become very widespread.
	You've got uprisings in Paris because people are being made poor.
	You've got uprisings happening in Germany and the UK from time to time.
	And in Italy, you'll see more too, by the way.
	You're going to have mass uprisings across Europe because the money can't buy the food that people need in order to survive.
	Because the food will be made deliberately scarce.
	And Europe is being overrun by mostly Middle Eastern migrants, by the way, on purpose to replace the Europeans.
	This is a replacement project to replace Europeans, just as in the United States, we the American people are being deliberately replaced by human trafficking migrant waves coming from places like the Darien Gap, like we've been talking about.
	So this is a globalist effort to utterly decimate Western civilization.
	And it is working.
	It is working.
	Western Europe will be absolutely annihilated.
	The United States will fare better, I believe.
	We are more resourceful.
	We still have a Second Amendment.
	We have a lot more natural resources, access to ocean ports, farmland, mineral rights, energy, you name it.
	The United States is going to be hard to bring down.
	We are quite resilient.
	Not to say that the Europeans aren't resilient, too.
	Many of them are.
	There's a lot of people in the Netherlands that are fighting for food freedom.
	It's just that there's so much socialism and fascism across Europe that it's a stranglehold on the good people there who are trying to defend their countries, like the Netherlands, like France, like Germany, like the United Kingdom or Ireland or Scotland, even independently from that.
	And Italy and Greece and Spain and so on.
	Not to mention Hungary and Poland.
	You get it.
	So to our brothers and sisters in Europe, those of you who are fighting for freedom and fighting for the survival of your nations, we pray for you.
	And we will do what we can to support you.
	But we're fighting for survival here in America as well.
	And we're facing a lot of the same things.
	Shutdown of the food infrastructure.
	Shutdown of energy.
	Maybe World War III, but definitely mass migration and replacement of us with...
	You know, people from all over the world who are just being exploited as pawns by the globalists.
	So that's happening everywhere.
	Folks, this is a deliberate takedown of Western civilization.
	And it's all been planned.
	It's all engineered demolition.
	The destruction is accelerating every day.
	And it's going to take a lot to resist this.
	Thank God that we have your support.
	Thank God that we are here.
	Thank God for independent media.
	And frankly, I thank God for people like Ron Paul and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	Here's a story from Infowars.
	Ron Paul and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	call out the CIA for Kennedy assassination and COVID pandemic.
	So, see, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he gets it.
	Ron Paul gets it.
	The CIA assassinated Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s uncle, JFK. They assassinated him.
	The CIA has carried out multiple assassinations and operations and trying to frame Trump and carrying out a color revolution against the United States in the 2020 election and so on.
	Ron Paul gets it.
	He's a real hero of humanity.
	And frankly, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	gets it.
	And he's a hero as well.
	And, you know, I want to say on the record, I absolutely hope that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	gets the nomination on the Democrat side for president.
	I think it would be amazing to have his voice in the debates.
	I would love to see Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	versus Donald J. Trump.
	That's what I want to see.
	It would be an amazing conversation, you know, because Bobby Kennedy would be like, hey, Trump, what about Operation Warp Speed?
	And Trump would have to, you know, I don't know, maybe double down or maybe finally change his mind on that.
	Okay, it was a mistake, you know.
	Operation Warp Speed actually harmed and killed a lot of people.
	Will Trump ever say that?
	I don't know.
	But Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	will, I think, kind of maybe force Trump to address that issue, which is absolutely necessary.
	In any case, if we get those two individuals in the running for president, that would be a major victory right there no matter what happens next.
	So I 100% support on the Democrat side.
	I support Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	over any other Democrat candidate.
	And on the Republican side, I support Donald J. Trump over any other candidate at the moment.
	All these things can change.
	Don't get me wrong.
	Things can change.
	Dynamics, you know, what have you.
	But there's a lot of time still before the election, but that's who I want to see get the nominations and get into the debates, and then we can watch and decide from there.
	So, enough said on that subject.
	Okay, I want to jump into our first interview here today.
	I mean, there are some other headlines, but they're not as important as our guest.
	Dane Wigington will be joining us here next from geoengineeringwatch.org.
	And, of course, he has another urgent message for humanity.
	About the climate destruction that's being engineered on purpose to destroy our planet.
	And we've seen crazy things happen in the last day or two, like this 25 inches of rain in Florida.
	That's not normal.
	That seems definitely engineered.
	These are not normal events that are happening.
	These are deliberate events.
	After that, we're going to be interviewing George Howard from the Cosmic Summit 2023 event, which covers the The issue of the ancient comet impact around 12,800 years ago, ancient civilizations that were likely destroyed by that impact, and some other interesting theories about archaeology and perhaps anthropology, history in general.
	Those interviews, both of those, should be quite fascinating, and they're coming right up.
	And then we are also in touch, I want to let you know, we're in touch with Michael Jan, And he's got some additional follow-up information coming for us.
	Perhaps this weekend, I'm not sure when we're going to connect with him next.
	It might not be in this studio.
	But we're going to connect with Michael Jan and congratulate him for his extraordinary work at the Darien Gap in getting these migrant human trafficking camps finally shut down.
	But straight ahead, the interview with Dane Wiginton from geoengineeringwatch.org, and then we'll be back on the other side of that.
	Welcome to this Brighttown.com interview with one of our favorite guests and I think one of our most knowledgeable guests.
	Dane Wigington joins us from geoengineeringwatch.org.
	And Dane, welcome to the show.
	I'm a huge fan of your work and so is our audience.
	And you have a critical message for, frankly, the very survival of the human species as far as I'm concerned.
	So welcome to the show today.
	Thank you, Mike.
	The gratitude is mutual for you and your listeners.
	It's all of our collective efforts that can make a difference, so I'm very grateful for your relentless work to pull back the curtain as well.
	Team effort.
	I appreciate you, and actually, for our audience, you agreed to come on last minute.
	I reached out to you earlier, and thank you for being gracious enough to take this time with us.
	I know you're insanely busy, but a lot of things are going on right now.
	Florida just got hit with Some crazy, insane 25 inches of rain, which the media is telling us now.
	Remember how we used to always hear they would say, oh, this was a once-in-a-decade event, and then this was a once-in-a-century event.
	We've heard a lot of that recently.
	They say this is a once-in-a-millennium event now, and yet things like this are happening every month, it seems.
	What's your take on this, Dane?
	The climate system at this point is unraveling.
	And climate engineering is very core to that equation.
	We've definitely been bad stewards of the planet, but the single most disruptive human activity of all is the intentional intervention in the climate system on a scale that is global, involving countries all around the world.
	Even countries that have normally adversarial relations are absolutely including and cooperating on climate intervention operations.
	We have Senate documents to prove that.
	So about Florida.
	Without question, the climate engineers control the spigot.
	At one point, even yesterday, they were still only predicting 6 to 7 inches of rain, and we got 24, 25 inches.
	So, again, if they did not want that to happen, they have the ability to diminish and disperse rain, Mike, as they've done for Middle Eastern countries, for example.
	We know that right after 9-11, we've discussed this before, that the countries that were named on the hit list...
	It was given to General Wesley Clark, all subsequently underwent a once-in-1,000-year drought.
	Their precipitation was completely cut off.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, another 1,000-year scenario happening frequently.
	Every single country, once-in-1,000-year drought.
	California was in a once-in-1,200-year drought until this year, and it was forecast to continue, scheduled to continue, I should say.
	But then somebody changed the script, and they turned the spigot back on for California.
	So, The entire system is in a state of flux at this point, and I would argue the control that the climate engineers thought they had over the system, they are losing by the day, and the more they intervene and try to compensate for their already loss of control, it's only going to spin it further out of control.
	So at this point, it's a runaway train, and the more they intervene in the system, the worse it's going to get.
	But climate engineering cannot be separated from what just happened in Florida or what's happening in countless other parts around the world.
	Okay, I want to show your website to our audience.
	I'm sure most of them are familiar with it, geoengineeringwatch.org.
	I've got it up on my screen.
	And folks, you've got to check out this website on a regular basis.
	He's got the dimming.
	He's got articles, podcasts, videos, newsletter analysis, all kinds of things.
	geoengineeringwatch.org is the site for that.
	Now, Dane, we saw another major piece of breaking news.
	That just occurred is the Biden administration has just announced massive cuts of water usage, quote, rights out of the Colorado River, affecting seven western states, including, of course, the state where you live.
	And my understanding is this will impact 40 million people.
	This is being positioned as a way to conserve the remaining water of the river.
	But isn't it weather weaponization that brought us to the brink of water starvation anyway?
	No.
	Absolutely.
	100%.
	If your listeners searched our disseminations at Geoengineering Watch that are going back over a decade, we said this would happen.
	It couldn't not happen if these programs were allowed to continue.
	We can see it on satellite imagery.
	We can see them disrupting the storm track in California up until this year again.
	But even this year, Mike, even with the So-called snowpocalypse that's occurred in some of the mountains.
	This is chemically nucleated material.
	We know that because we're testing the material.
	So it's got chemically nucleating elements in it, aluminum, barium, strontium, manganese, polymer fibers, graphene.
	And what happens when you chemically nucleate a material, the extreme example of which an artificial nucleation is dry ice, which sublimates.
	You don't get any moisture off dry ice.
	People know that.
	That's why it's called dry ice.
	So When you have an artificially nucleated material, all this snow in some of the western mountains won't generate the amount of runoff water that it should have or would have if this would have been a naturally nucleated element.
	So you have, again, what's called sublimation, which means much of this frozen material transitions from a solid to a gas and bypasses the liquid phase.
	This is a natural toxic nucleated material And as far as nourishing the forests, this toxic runoff, what does runoff, is only killing soil microbiome, root systems, even faster.
	So we're seeing an even faster die-off in the forest, the western forest, of the primary tree, which is the fir tree, so much so that the latest science report, Mike, called it firmageddon.
	In other words, the die-off of the fir trees is now becoming total.
	And all of this is connected, but back to the water, the runoff...
	They control the spigot.
	They can flood one region, drought out another.
	Absolutely inseparable from climate intervention operations, a.k.a.
	weather warfare.
	So you know this extremely well, that the stability of the climate and rainfall is very closely tied to the economic success or even just the viability of any civilization.
	And so there's a lot of economic damage that goes along with weather weaponization and the geoengineering of the climate.
	The reason I ask you this is because If they're going to cut more water off from 40 million people in seven states, have these people who are doing this, have they even thought about the fact that real estate is worth zero when you have no water?
	Every commercial building is worth zero if you have no water.
	It's not just a weather war.
	It's an economic war because of the instability, is it not?
	Well, certainly it is.
	We have those that are capitalizing on this.
	Disaster capitalists, we have the stock market gaming casino of weather trading derivatives.
	So those that are privy to the information of which regions are going to be crushed, be it crops or the water needed for urban development and urban usage, those that know this is coming certainly are going to capitalize that.
	Others are going to lose.
	Those that don't know it's coming, But the bottom line is all this intervention is doing very real damage to the climate system.
	So, yes, the disaster capitalists can load their pockets with loot on the deck of the sinking ship, but if the ship sinks, all that profit won't mean much, will it?
	Exactly.
	So, the bottom line is, no question, in the case of the West, we have disseminations, engineered drought catastrophe target California.
	That's 10 years old.
	Everything we said on that dissemination is still available online, and people can look at that and decide how accurate that information was.
	Everything we said would happen did happen.
	And local government knows here.
	Gavin Newsom knows.
	As I've told you before, I had a personal meeting with Gavin in his office at the Capitol, presented this data, telling him this would happen.
	This is going back almost a decade.
	He did nothing.
	He's still doing nothing but towing the line.
	And Mike, here's the key.
	With all of this, with all of this various forms of weather warfare, Flash droughts, flash floods, flash freezes, flash hailstorms that have hailstones the size of baseballs because of chemical ice manipulation.
	All of this, the controllers can blame on nature while they were bringing targeted populations to their knees, be it foreign entities in the Middle East with oil reserves or U.S. population, which I would argue is a rapidly increasing liability to those in power, not just expendable, but a liability. which I would argue is a rapidly increasing liability to The heavily armed U.S. population is a rapidly increasing liability for those in power.
	You hit upon something really critical, and I think our audience already understands that this is a multi-vectored attack on the infrastructure that provides sustainability and viability to human civilization.
	So you mentioned oil in the Middle East, for example.
	Well, the energy infrastructure is being dismantled, even prematurely, even though you and I, Dane, we know that long-term, If we survive long enough, we're going to have a fusion-based energy economy, which is great.
	But in order to get there, we're still going to need some oil and some natural gas in the meantime, or we all die and starve, right?
	We don't have transportation, we don't have crops, nothing.
	Until they have fusion-powered tractors, which may be 100 years away, but are we even going to make it there?
	They're dismantling every system, the food infrastructure, the energy infrastructure, the weather system, and the financial infrastructure, plus culture and national borders.
	Everything is being dismantled.
	Education, you name it.
	To answer your question, on the current trajectory, the answer is...
	Patently, no.
	We're not going to make it much further on the current trajectory.
	And the so-called renewable energy isn't.
	It's better than outright burning of carbon fuel, but it is anything but renewable.
	And I encourage people to actually investigate what's really going into so-called renewable energy.
	For example, the electric cars that are being pushed in California.
	I mean, it's absurd.
	They're being charged with Carbon fuel, energy sources, the batteries, and we've discussed this before, the child laborers in third world countries that are decimating ecosystems.
	And if we look at even solar panels, something as basic as a solar panel that people think is some endless renewable energy potential.
	Hexofluorothene used in solar panel production is 17,000 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. 17,000 times, that's not an arbitrary figure.
	And if we look at the wind turbines, for example, Their lifespan is very limited.
	They're hugely wrought with problems.
	Some of them are falling down.
	Mike, you've probably seen that.
	A 750-foot turbine fell down in Germany.
	And the issue with the wind turbines, for example, climate engineering, and we hear none of the environmental groups discussing this.
	It's radically hampering all three primary forms of so-called alternative energy, solar, wind, and hydro.
	It's the hydrological cycle.
	And on the solar panels, that's what got me into this, because it was blocking the sun.
	Directs on my off-grid home.
	And on the wind turbines, it affects convection.
	Specifically because the wind turbines are a big subject of conversation now in many arenas.
	So it affects convection because they're covering the skyline with these reflective particles.
	That affects wind.
	So with a wind turbine, if the wind speed is cut in half, the power production is cut by a magnitude of eight.
	One-eighth the power if the wind speed is cut in half.
	What happens if the wind speed doubles?
	Do they make eight times more power?
	No.
	No, they have to shut the turbine off completely because it will damage the turbine.
	So in either scenario, with climate engineering creating all or nothing wind scenarios around the world, that is radically hamstringing the wind turbines.
	And none of this is renewable energy anyway in the sense that we're being sold it.
	Well, right.
	Actually, I have a more in-depth question for you about off-grid energy storage.
	But thank you for calling them wind turbines because I still hear so many people calling them wind mills.
	And, folks, nobody is milling grain with these wind turbines.
	Trust me.
	There's no corn milling going on, okay?
	They're not wind mills.
	They are wind turbines.
	Yeah.
	We're not living in the 18th century here.
	Or we may be soon, actually, come to think of where this is going.
	But off-grid energy storage, Dane, the current approaches to off-grid storage require enormous quantities of minerals like lithium, which have to be mined using massive quantities of fresh water.
	So the water, the surface water...
	Destruction that's required for expanding lithium mining is itself an ecological catastrophe.
	And we're seeing from the Biden administration now a demand that I think something like two-thirds of all the cars sold in America by some upcoming year have to be battery-powered cars.
	Isn't this kind of a condemnation of fresh water around the world?
	Of which we already don't have enough of.
	You're completely correct.
	And in regards to batteries, period, and the ability to store generated power, it's hugely problematic.
	The last battery bank that I had to, quote, recycle from my off-grid home was a dry cell battery bank that had thorium in it.
	It's so toxic, only one institution in the whole country will take those batteries to recycle, and that's where they went.
	So they got recycled, but again, Batteries as a whole, be they lead acid, lithium, or other forms of dry cell batteries, all of them hugely problematic, hugely environmentally destructive.
	It's not just lithium.
	We have cobalt and other elements used that's destroying the environment wherever that's mined.
	Yeah, and Dane, they're not reclaiming the lithium in these batteries because all the battery manufacturing...
	They all have their proprietary stacking techniques and enclosures.
	Lead, lead acid batteries are largely reclaimed because that's been kind of standardized over the years.
	You trade in a lead battery for a new lead battery typically.
	You get a deposit back.
	Lithium batteries, they're not being recycled.
	So this mining expansion has to continue to accelerate.
	And where's all this lithium going?
	Some of these electric cars, you get into a minor fender bender, they trash the whole car because there's a small break in the lithium battery pack, and now the whole thing might catch on fire.
	So, massive waste.
	It is.
	It is massive.
	In fact, I am on lead-acid batteries now.
	One of the primary reasons is because of what you mentioned.
	They are recyclable.
	And they are in many ways more viable than the new, quote, "technology" that we have.
	And in regards to the weather, food production, we're seeing right now, Mike, an incredibly consistent targeting of agricultural producing regions.
	So in California, where it was predicted to have a worsening of this already once in 1200 year drought, and then the schedule was changed.
	They pumped in a lot of moisture from the Pacific, chemically nucleating it.
	And again, we're not just testing the snow.
	In my quiet location, you can hear the aircraft overhead above the cloud canopy seeding the clouds.
	I'm in an area where there's no commercial traffic, but you can hear them when these operations are going on.
	So what have they done here in California?
	For the sixth year in a row, they allowed it to warm up.
	Everything bloomed, all the orchards bloomed, and they flash froze it again, six years in a row, wiping out much or most of the blooms.
	That is so incredibly consistent.
	It cannot be considered coincidence.
	Again, this is a targeting of our food supplies.
	Well, Dane, there's something else.
	I'm glad you mentioned that.
	So by having the extremes pushed onto California, they can cause a lot of crop losses.
	But also, and I'd like you to confirm this if you agree with it, isn't it true that if they engineer drought, And they kill a lot of plants.
	They kill a lot of root systems.
	They make the soil fragile.
	And then they have a flood come in.
	Then they cause massive erosion, loss of topsoil that would otherwise not occur if the moisture were held steady and plants could hold on to it.
	But drought followed by floods, that just eliminates topsoil, eliminates future food production, does it not?
	You're completely correct.
	And let's add on top of that, again, these bioavailable elements that Aluminum, barium, strontium, manganese, polymer fibers, graphene, all of these being uptaken in the soil, killing soil microbiome, affecting crop reduction, affecting forestry growth.
	And on top of the flash flood, flash drought scenarios you just outlined correctly, we also have all the epic burns that have occurred in California that have virtually sterilized soils.
	It creates hydrophobic soils.
	Because these burns are so intense, and that's directly related to climate engineering as well.
	Cutting off precipitation, trees are dying because their root systems are being exposed to these toxic elements, so the trees begin to die a slow, protracted death.
	The beetles that official agencies blame all the tree die off on are only a symptom of other underlying problems.
	So when these fires finally burn, as these forests are covered with an incendiary dust, these particles are incendiaries, and the forests have been droughted out, Making them prime for epic burns.
	And once this happens, they're burning with such intensity.
	Again, you have hydrophobic soils getting back to your points.
	And now what soil that does remain is washed off these hills.
	The rest of the soil is sterilized.
	These forests are not coming back in any time frame that matters.
	I can't express that point enough.
	You cannot plant a plug tree now, which is a genetically adapted tree for a specific area.
	It's meant for forestry replanting.
	The success rate now in Northern California is zero.
	That's unbelievable.
	In our region, a success rate that was 95% 20 years ago, meaning 95% of the plugs planted made it through the first year, success rate now, zero.
	Trees aren't coming back.
	Well, speaking of the weather extremes that are being engineered, I want to bring up this graphic that you sent us here.
	It's a 6-10 day temperature outlook for right now, valid April 11-15, 2023.
	Talk to us about this map, Dane.
	What is this showing?
	Because it looks pretty dramatic.
	It is, and meteorologically speaking, it's unprecedented and unbelievably alarming.
	So what we see happening is what has happened much of the winter.
	We've had a fire hosing of moisture into the West Coast.
	It's chemically nucleated, which cools down the surface temperatures.
	And they're doing this repeatedly over and over.
	They've crushed the agriculture again this year, as I've mentioned before.
	And we see profound heating in other parts of the eastern U.S. Bounces back and forth, a weather whiplash scenario, if you will, Mike, between engineered flash cool-downs, which is about to occur again around the Great Lakes, going from record highs in the 90s, record-shattering highs, 10 degrees above the former all-time record, back to snow.
	Nature cannot do this.
	Only chemical ice nucleation can do it.
	And that's why these extremes, Mike, and I know you've seen this, these extremes of temperature...
	Are getting worse by the day.
	50-degree swings in a single day and it's getting worse.
	Climate engineering is the core of the issue.
	Yeah, these swings are quite dramatic and it's causing plants and animals to experience a lot of shock and attacks on their own viability.
	Stress on animals causes them to be more susceptible to the bio-weaponized epidemics that are also being built and released.
	On the populations, so the climate interactions with the wild animals, the flowers, and in Texas right now we're in flower blooming season, which is quite beautiful, but the pollinators depend on this.
	This is the one time of the year that they have an abundance of flowers for pollination, and if the weather goes insane, then you lose a season of pollinators, and then what happens?
	I mean, the effects are widespread here, Dane.
	You're completely correct again.
	In fact, going back to what happened in California, they allowed a warm-up.
	Everything bloomed.
	What pollinators are left were out and trying to do their job.
	They flash froze us again.
	We went from about 80 degrees to snow.
	The frozen material, I don't want to dignify as snow, but it's a frozen material.
	It's chemically nucleated.
	And when that event passed...
	Most of the buds were dead.
	Pollinator's gone.
	It kills the insects as well, just as you profoundly stated.
	And the wildlife can't take this.
	And the trees as well.
	This frozen material is extremely cold to the touch in most cases.
	We've measured it, Mike, at 20 degrees colder than the surrounding ambient temperature.
	So what's that mean?
	It means when it builds up on certain types of foliage, it can literally flash-burn, flash-freeze That foliage.
	And we're seeing that now on some of the citrus in Northern California.
	The leaves look like they've been hit with a torch from the last chemically nucleated frozen material event.
	It's unbelievable.
	And I'm looking at your site right now and seeing that you also cover carbon dioxide removal, which is really critical to this.
	We have a lot of carbon sequestration efforts that are underway to remove CO2 from the atmosphere, claiming that that's going to solve all these problems.
	But you and I both know that Dane, that the plants need carbon dioxide.
	The pollinators need the plants that need the carbon dioxide.
	The forests need it.
	You don't have rainforests without CO2 in the atmosphere, folks.
	In fact, you don't have a planet.
	You don't have a civilization.
	I mean, you don't have oceans without some level of CO2. Can you talk to us about what's going on with the carbon sequestration projects?
	Because they seem almost like an alien attempt to sterilize our planet or something.
	Well, they're not actually functionally doing anything.
	So keep that in mind.
	It's a completely futile smoke and mirrors attempt to make certain communities feel that they're taking action when these facilities do nothing.
	In fact, the one primary CO2 sequestration facility, I believe it's in Iceland, one year's operation of that facility is three seconds of CO2 buildup on the planet.
	That's how much it sequesters.
	Three seconds, I believe, is the statistic.
	There's virtually nothing.
	So in regard to CO2 as a whole, absolutely, of course, it's necessary.
	One of the gases we need.
	But what's important to consider, too, is the speed at which these changes are taking place.
	And that's an issue because we're changing atmospheric chemistry in many ways at blinding speed.
	And the climate engineering element is a huge part of that.
	And we're also, Mike, we're changing...
	Light spectrum.
	When they put light scattering particles in the atmosphere, we're altering photosynthesis in ways that we don't even know or understand.
	We're altering the light wavelength form.
	We're destroying the ozone layer.
	And the narrative that the ozone layer is recovering is complete deception.
	It's not recovering.
	In fact, we just had a peer-reviewed study released that There's more CFCs in the atmosphere now, and I think they're using that as a red herring.
	Our data indicates that's exactly what they're doing.
	But they're now saying the CFCs are far higher than they've ever been, and they don't know why.
	And I would argue that's smoke and mirrors to cover up the fact that climate engineering is the core causal factor for ozone destruction, as we stated at geoengineeringwatch.org.
	for well over a decade.
	We have a NASA contract engineer that works directly with us metering UV.
	So they use other forms of deception to cover their tracks, if that makes sense.
	And the bottom line is the UV levels are so intense right now that we're seeing plants and trees simply stop growing, period. - Now you mentioned that these carbon sequestration machines are really not doing that much.
	But here's what's interesting to me about that, Dane.
	So there's a big plan in America's heartland to have these machines across, I think it's like Illinois and Iowa, and to liquefy CO2 in a pipeline that will be put underground, piped underground in Illinois.
	And yet, these machines...
	These massive machines that are being constructed, and they've grabbed land from farmers using eminent domain to build these things.
	These machines run on the local power grid.
	The local power grid in these areas in the Midwest is mostly powered by coal.
	So they're burning coal to power machines that they claim are taking CO2 out of the atmosphere to make the climate activists feel good.
	But like you said, this is beyond a joke.
	The longer you run this system, actually, the more CO2 will be placed into the atmosphere because of the electricity usage of the machines.
	It's insane.
	It's completely insane.
	This is like seeing the...
	Electric vehicle charging station out in the middle of nowhere with a diesel generator right there to supply the energy.
	It's exactly that scenario.
	And what else is the, quote, climate science community throwing at us?
	They're throwing at us the proposal, and this is literal.
	I'm not making this up.
	They suggested building 10 million wind-powered water pumps to put in the Arctic to pump Cold seabed water to the surface to help keep the surface cool.
	Well, how much carbon fuel would it take to build 10 million wind-powered water pumps?
	What would that do to the environment?
	And when you pump that cold seawater to the surface, what happens?
	Warm water replaces that seabed water, methane hydrates, frozen methane deposits in the seabed, thaw, release into the atmosphere, and you trigger a chain reaction of Pandora's box that would seal our fate.
	And this is coming from the so-called climate science community and the so-called environmentalists.
	But these are the same people that are pushing stratospheric aerosol injection.
	I know you cover this a lot on your site, where they openly admit they want to pollute the skies and dim the sun and block the amount of solar radiation that reaches the surface of the Earth.
	The implications of this are beyond catastrophic.
	It's like an annihilation of life as we know it on this planet.
	And yet they openly talk about this like it's a brilliant solution.
	These are mad, insane scientists.
	If we don't reel them back in from these mad experiments, they will kill us all.
	It's that crazy.
	They will.
	They will.
	And we are very far down that path right now.
	So thank you for bringing up those points.
	Because think of the absurdity of that.
	We have literally the entire global climate science community and governments around the world, power structure control governments, pushing for solar radiation management, stratospheric aerosol injection to be immediately deployed.
	Jets that spray particles into the atmosphere to create artificial clouds to block the sun.
	Exactly what we know is happening right now.
	And for those that are still caught up on the, quote, condensation trail narrative, massive deception.
	We have up close film footage of these aircraft at altitude, nozzles visible, turning dispersions on and off.
	End of discussion.
	This isn't condensation.
	High-bypass turbofan jet engine.
	All military tankers, all commercial carriers.
	That's a jet-powered fan.
	90% of the air that moves through that, not combusted.
	That engine is not capable of producing a condensation trail, except under rare circumstances.
	So, again, for those that don't want to believe this is going on, they just simply don't want to face the truth.
	But if we don't face the truth...
	From countless directions, from the destruction of the atmosphere, which is making us vulnerable to CMEs, coronal mass ejections, which will shut down grids, which will keep nuclear plants from being able to cool themselves.
	Now we'll have many Fukishimas to toxifying our air, waters, soil, weather being used as a weapon.
	Florida, we have now the great northern plains states that go from 90 degrees to snow in a day.
	We're seeing the same thing in California, Mike.
	We're seeing...
	In fact, I did a video that...
	I documented one of my most treasured spots in the forest near me where there was three or four hundred year old trees in a canyon.
	We went from 80 degrees to a flash snowstorm that literally crushed those trees, caused a chain reaction, and made that canyon look like someone dropped a bomb in it, back to no snow at 80 degrees the day after.
	That's simply wreaking destruction on ecosystems that are not going to come back, and that's happening on a global scale.
	Again, we're under all-out assault right now.
	And aside from the environmental issues, every breath we take may have as many as 20 million nanoparticles in that breath.
	And that's not my guesstimation.
	That's a peer-reviewed science study.
	100,000 nanoparticles will fit across the width of a human hair.
	100,000.
	So if we're sucking it that much...
	But nanoparticles, some of those include airborne microplastics.
	They do.
	They do.
	And that's not just from decomposing plastic...
	On the terrestrial regions, we know climate engineering patents.
	Thank you for bringing that up.
	One of the primary elements is polymer fibers.
	Why would they use those?
	Their stated purpose is to act as a spider web does.
	When spider webs are used by some species to float into the atmosphere and migrate, the polymer fibers, based on the patents, are stated as being used to help keep heavy metals afloat in the atmosphere longer, with no consideration of the consequences.
	Wow, it really is.
	Our world is being run by a suicide cult.
	It's unbelievable.
	Dane, we're almost out of time, but just to wrap this up, give people some direction.
	What can someone do to survive this?
	Is there a safer region in which to live?
	Are there off-grid methods for sustainability that might get a family through this?
	What should people do?
	Some regions are hammered harder than other regions because of the weather patterns of those regions.
	For example, Northern California has hit very hard because the weather moves across us.
	But there is really no place to hide, Mike.
	This contamination is ubiquitous.
	We have to expose these issues.
	If we expose climate engineering, we have a chance of stopping it.
	And the way you expose it is you start the conversation with those around you and you feed that fire of awareness and help it to spread and That's what we're trying to do at geoengineeringwatch.org, help supply the materials people need.
	We sell our pen and materials at less than our cost.
	They're on our homepage.
	A picture's worth a thousand words in this case.
	If you can pass on a picture to people that's of satellite imagery that's so shocking that they can't deny something is radically wrong, that helps to open the door to waking them up.
	And conversation starters, we have our new geoengineering watch shirts and hoodies.
	Also available are cards that bring people to the Deming documentary, which we posted for free the moment it was done.
	Our only goal, my only goal, my only mission is to provide activists in the field what they need to start spot fires of awareness that if they feed and expand, and Mike, you know the exponential equation.
	If you told two people the first day of a 30-day month, and they told two each the second day, and that carried on for 30 days, that's into the several million.
	So we need to create that kind of exponential equation with raising awareness, and if we can bring this issue to light, it would cause a shockwave around the world, and we could alter the equation in the right direction.
	We need to expose it.
	100%.
	And, Dane, look, if humanity survives all of this, history will vindicate you for all of your work to try to save us from this suicide mission.
	I want to encourage people to support you.
	The website is geoengineeringwatch.org, and there's a donate button on the top right-hand side that you can donate, but you can also get other types of products that are found on the website, and you can share this with other people.
	Check out the movies as well.
	And, Dane, it's interesting.
	I've got some wealthy individuals asking me for recommendations of who they should support with some larger donations, and I'm going to give them your site, your name, and hope that they send you a much larger check to help support you in your work, because you're doing extraordinary work for humanity.
	I thank you for it.
	We appreciate that, Mike.
	This is a job I never...
	Ever wanted the last 20 years of my life here.
	And we didn't even put a donate button on our site for the first five years.
	I ran it out of pocket.
	But we were passing out so many materials that we needed help in doing that.
	But thank you for all you do.
	This is a team effort.
	It's all of us working together that can yet make a difference at this late hour.
	So again, my deepest gratitude to you, to Natural News, for all your help over the years with sounding the alarm in everything you do.
	Let me tell you, Dane, actually, if you'll send me some shirts and stuff, I'll put it on the desk here.
	I'll show people on some other shows.
	I'll help get the word out for you.
	Hang on after this.
	I'll give you our address to ship that stuff if you want to, and we'll get it out.
	We'll show it here.
	I don't know.
	Maybe we can hang some of your shirts up.
	That'd be pretty cool, wouldn't it?
	Help save the planet and support Dane Wigington.
	So, Dane, thank you for your efforts again.
	It's always an honor to speak with you.
	Honors mutual, Mike.
	This is, again, a team effort.
	It's all of us, including all your listeners.
	Any one of us could be the last pebble to create the landslide of awakening, as I stated at the end of the dimming.
	So, again, it's absolutely a team effort, all of us.
	100%.
	We're with you, Dane.
	Thank you for keeping up the fight for humanity and, frankly, for planet Earth.
	So, thank all of you for watching.
	I'm Mike Adams, of course, the founder of BrightTown.com, and I love having guests like Dane on who have the uncensored truth that we all need to hear.
	If we are to survive.
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	Welcome to today's cosmic interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And the reason we have the cosmic clouds behind us here today is because we're joined by none other than George Howard, who has organized the Cosmic Summit that's about to take place coming up in June.
	The website for that is CosmicSummit2023.com.
	I've got it up on my screen to show you.
	And the in-person tickets are already sold out, but you can access this with live streaming.
	And let's bring in George to tell you what this is all about, because I'm super excited about this myself.
	George, welcome to the show.
	It's great to have you back on.
	Hey, it's wonderful to be back on, Mike.
	You've got a terrific operation and it's fun to join you again, man.
	Well, man, I thank you for your patience because you and Randall Carlson, you were the first guest in our new studio.
	We didn't quite have the audio bugs worked out at that time.
	So our previous interview was slightly glitchy.
	That's my fault.
	I apologize.
	But now we've got it all working.
	Here you are.
	And now, but of course, all your tickets have already been sold out for the in-person event at this point.
	But how can people tune into your event and what's the event about?
	Yeah, well, the cosmic summit was kind of born of really kind of the internet first, that a lot of people become very popular talking about the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis, which is a key pillar of our intellectual discussions at the summit, and also the potential that there were precursor civilizations and un-understood chapters, un-knowledged chapters of human history that may relate to that catastrophe.
	So we're going to take all that and put it together, but we're doing it in kind of a special way, I think.
	Basically, I've broken it down to two-thirds of the speakers, of the 14 speakers, We'll be speculators and YouTubers like Jimmy Corsetti and Johanna James and some folks everybody knows, Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock.
	But they will all tell you that a lot of their content is speculation based on science that they read and how they interpret it.
	But then we're also going to have another third, which are well-published, peer-reviewed PhD scientists.
	They're going to speak to the aspects of the greater theories that they believe have been validated by data.
	So that's a fascinating mix-up that you mentioned there because, I mean, I would say that as the science has become more and more clear over the last especially 10 to 15 years, things that were speculation have become, I think, in more of the fact category at this point.
	That's right.
	And that process continues to this day, does it not?
	Yeah, well, we are going through a classic paradigm change as defined by Thomas Kuhn back in the 1960s in the book.
	And a paradigm change, you know, requires a lot of pain.
	And some people say science only changes one funeral at a time.
	And I'm not quite that pessimistic, but we're seeing it move from an understanding that anything in the recent human past was uniformitarian and any geology that we see was all created very slowly over time.
	And that we're actually suggesting that the data shows that there was an unbelievable catastrophe on Earth 12,800 years ago.
	And that leads to a lot of speculation as well.
	Well, it's, but you know, our planet, we're in a universe where it's like a giant pinball machine and we're being struck by, you know, high velocity objects every single day, obviously, you know, maybe small mass for the most part, but every once in a while a very large mass object impacts the planet.
	That's right.
	If the Younger Dryas impact theory is actually embraced, then it means that perhaps our planet is in far more danger of additional impacts than what we've been led to believe up until now, right?
	That's right, and that's why I kind of taglined, if that's the term, the conference, past is prologue, right?
	And the best way to understand the future is a proper understanding of the past.
	And most of your impactor identification efforts around the world, and God bless them all, consist of trying to look out into space and find the objects that may hit us, and that's a worthy and noble effort.
	But what we're doing and what the Comet Research Group, the publishing team that I'm associated with and fortunate to be with, They took a different view and said, another way to look at how much danger do we face in the future is how much did we face in the recent past?
	And do we find impact proxies, as we call them, indicators that there were impacts in places that perhaps hadn't been investigated before?
	And we spent 15 years publishing data that shows, again, that 12,800 years ago, Earth had a very, very bad day and encountered a shower of medium-sized objects, really, right?
	That would have been like a nuclear war minus the radiation.
	And there's a tremendous amount of evidence of this across our planet.
	We don't have to go out into outer space, right, to find evidence.
	You have one of the spherials, the nanocrystals.
	I'm not familiar with all the analogies.
	That's right.
	You got it.
	And there's iridium fallout and a couple other elements that are clearly present in specific layers that indicate a global distribution of an impact event, right?
	That's right.
	And our good, you know, the...
	The comet dinosaur killer was proved using iridium, and we get hints of the elevated iridium, but it's very tricky to test for.
	But platinum is where we really found the most fruitful platinum group element that indicated.
	So when you go down and test the side of an archaeological face and start at the top of the youngest part of the soils and move yourself down, boom, you can get up to a thousand times more platinum in the constituents of the soils At a very particular place, and at that place below it is when you begin to find the megafauna bones, the very last bones of the Ice Age animals like the mammoth and the saber-toothed tiger and the giant brown sloth and all that.
	And you also find the very last instances of the first well-known in Native American culture, the Clovis people, their Clovis points, their tight points.
	All of that disappears at that line, is never found above it, and then the world changed.
	Yeah, that is absolutely fascinating.
	It's a dividing line between the Earth that was and then the new Earth at that time, which involved mass death, frankly, mass ecological destruction.
	Animal species disappeared at that line.
	And many people believe, of course, Graham Hancock has done a lot of this and Randall Carlson and others, that advanced human civilizations vanished.
	Many of them vanished at that point.
	That's right.
	They're indirect indications, and there's very little investigation done on those lines, and usually things that are discovered that would predate this catastrophe.
	For instance, Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, from which I just returned.
	Oh, really?
	Last week, yeah.
	And Karahan Tepe and Sagmatar and Haran and a number of very obscure sites right against the Syrian border.
	And we had a wonderful time.
	But Graham would suggest that Gobekli Tepe, Graham made wild claims 30 years ago.
	He said there was a precursor civilization before destruction roughly 13,000 years ago.
	He didn't have proof of either.
	He had indirect interpretations of mythology and indirect scientific evidence.
	But it's a speculative book, and that was Fingerprints of the Gods.
	And it was a huge bestseller, and he endured a wrath.
	Crap from his critics right off the bat, and that has continued to this day.
	But one half of that, we believe, if he's got two pillars to his book, one is a catastrophe, two is a precursor civilization.
	Well, in the intervening 30 years, We believe that the Comet Research Group has provided irrefutable evidence that he was right about the catastrophe.
	And we weren't taking notes from Graham's book.
	This just independently aligned, which is a good suggestion that something is valid, with his claims.
	Now, as far as the precursor civilization goes, you're not going to find hard data on that right away.
	But I keep my mind very open.
	Well, yeah, and a lot of that evidence is underwater because the ocean levels rose.
	Exactly.
	So it's very hard to find it.
	Well, things like Gobekli Tepe, too, all of a sudden they'll have to re, as they did in the case of Gobekli Tepe, they'll have to redefine what a hunter-gatherer was because they found evidence that didn't fit with their view.
	So then they just changed.
	Well, a hunter-gatherer could also make monumental stone constructions and carved in large animal-embossed reliefs when before he could barely make a fire.
	Well, that's the thing is that, you know, modern-day science tends to really discount the intellectual capacity of, you know, ancient civilizations, which, frankly, they're the same people as you and I. They just had different cultures around them.
	You know, they weren't idiots.
	In fact, I would probably argue that more people today are idiots than 12,800 years ago.
	You know what I mean?
	Mike, that is such an interesting...
	You have hit a wonderful aspect to this.
	If people...
	Properly turned it on Graham's critics and other critics, and I imagine I have them in a little way too, you know, that we're considered too edgy and fringy or whatnot, despite the data.
	But when they turn on Graham Hancock, for instance, I would call it, and a lot of the charges, you know, involve racism and whatnot.
	I would say that they're temporal bigots.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They look into the past.
	They claim to honor these people in every way, and they pay all the lip service to the cultures that they're studying in the deep and archaic past.
	But all of their myths were campfire stories.
	Right, now what could be more patronizing?
	I know, they don't give them any credit.
	To have their stories entirely dismissed as potentially being literal truth, when we're finding evidence that indicates indeed some of the 350 cultures share a catastrophe myth of their origin, Yeah, I mean, that would be the modern-day racist equivalent of,
	let's say, white people in Australia saying to aborigines in Australia, oh, that you people, again, I'm not saying this, this is if they said that you people don't know anything and you're all stupid and you're not capable of even understanding, that would be insane.
	But that's exactly right.
	Temporal racism is what's being carried out.
	Absolutely.
	And Graham Hancock's critics are woke hypocrites.
	To demonstrably woke hypocrite.
	And also, you know, they tend to, as soon as we came forward with all the evidence of this, and they come in and they attack Graham about, well, you have no proof of ancient civilizations.
	It's as simple on Twitter as saying, well, what do you think about the catastrophe there, Mr.
	Woke archaeologist or Mr.
	Woke geologist?
	And then they'll have to say, well, there's some indications he might have, you know, that there may have been something that happened.
	And of course, that's being debated in papers.
	And you go, well, that means Graham was right then, buddy.
	But George, did you see...
	You must have seen this.
	This was in the news in the last couple of weeks.
	There's this woke anthropologist, this academic guy...
	Which one?
	...who says...
	No, I don't know his name.
	The guy says that now you can't tell the difference between male and female skeletons that are pulled out of archaeological digs because...
	No, listen to the reason why.
	Because we don't know what gender they identified with.
	I've heard that...
	How insane is that?
	It can't be more anti-science.
	It just simply cannot be.
	They have wound themselves into pretzels that are now becoming embarrassing, and I hope the embarrassment continues, because you can't have ideology and science in the same room.
	It doesn't work.
	There will never be a science that fits your ideology.
	Well, I know, but even when I was in middle school, my science teacher brought in a human skeleton model.
	Well, two of them.
	It was like, this is a male, this is a female.
	And I remember my science teacher asking me, can we tell the differences between male and female skeletons?
	And he was describing them.
	Of course there are differences between male and female skeletons.
	It's right there in the freaking bones.
	And now they're telling us you have to imagine that transgender...
	People had a time machine and they went back and they indoctrinated ancient humans into transgenderism and, like, drag queen caveman hour or something?
	Like, what are they talking about?
	It's farcical.
	It's insane.
	I think the public's seeing it, and we just got to take action on it.
	Anyway...
	They ruin science, but they've absolutely...
	The wokeness, particularly in archaeology and anthropology, well, I mean, there are a lot of things to choose from, but...
	From my experience, and actually there's some data out there, they are completely corrupted by ideology.
	Yeah, well, it's become the cult.
	Narrative into follow cult-like ideological, you know, signals.
	It has replaced evidence and facts.
	And the one thing that I've always really enjoyed about Graham Hancock is that he has always been an evidence-driven individual.
	Now, of course, he has his own analysis, but he will state that as such.
	And he has a very accurate sense of the weight of the evidence where it's pointing.
	And I would say he has been proven right again and again and again over the last two or three decades here.
	Well, that's exactly right.
	And it's only going to get worse for the critics, because some of this is so painfully obvious that eventually there will be, you know, a quorum or a critical mass of younger scientists that are more interested in the truth than they are in toeing the line.
	And we see indications of that already.
	But, of course, those are not the loud voices.
	Those are the quiet, intelligent voices.
	Discerning people that are in it for the science and not the tweets.
	I want to remind people to check out your website, CosmicSummit2023.com.
	Now, this event, again, is June 17th and 18th, coming up here this summer.
	It's in Asheville, North Carolina, but the in-person tickets are sold out.
	However, people can get live stream access.
	There's the button right there.
	You've got many speakers.
	I think you said, what, 14?
	Is that right?
	That's right.
	We've got 14, so five scientists and nine speculators.
	Okay, okay, excellent.
	Yeah, here's the list of some of the topics and so on.
	So this is really going to be fascinating.
	And what's this other website that you were just telling me about?
	What is it?
	CosmicCircle.Club?
	Yeah, exactly.
	CosmicCircle.Club is kind of a new, I don't know, proprietary members only, if you will.
	We just figured if you're going to pay $50 for the live stream, we should create a community with those people that buy it, right?
	Or pay for the ticket.
	So the 650 people who are coming are in the Cosmic Circle.
	The 500 or 600 that have already purchased a live streamer in the Cosmic Circle.
	And anybody now that buys the live stream would buy it through that website and have an option to join the Cosmic Circle, which will include a Discord server where you can discuss the issues and kind of a little bit of a gated community to keep the trolls out.
	And then we're also going to have a regular podcast, if you will, or maybe you could call it kind of a proprietary webinar.
	And we hope it's small enough that people can get some questions in, but it's going to certainly be more intimate than a general podcast.
	And our first guest will be Graham Hancock late next week.
	We were trying to do it from Turkey.
	With Graham last week.
	And, you know, he gets terrible migraines and he could not make it.
	So we've rescheduled and it might be best that I'm able to get this on your show beforehand.
	We'll have Graham on there and we'll also get a regular newsletter.
	So it's that kind of thing.
	But we hope to create a community, a kind of like-minded, open-minded, ancient historian, heterodox thinkers.
	So that might be too small a niche to build a community, but I think there's something out there and we want to test it.
	No, actually, this leads to one of my questions about the rising level of interest in this subject, because people are beginning to question the narratives of society so much.
	Especially after COVID, people are just really questioning, like, whoa, did the masks work?
	Really?
	Did the lockdowns work?
	We were told all these things, and a lot of it in people's own personal experience didn't really match up.
	And then you start looking at history, right?
	You're like, oh, we were taught these things.
	We were taught that everything before, you know, 1789, that they were all morons and idiots and didn't know what they were doing.
	But that's not even true at all.
	So this is the time for people to question all of history, including archaeology and anthropology and astrophysics, I guess.
	I'll give you another channel that actually indicates what you're saying, that there's a pent-up interest.
	And I mean, it surprised me how quickly the thing sold out, of course.
	But I knew that I was probably shooting low with 500 people, and darn if I wasn't.
	But the continuing interest was demonstrated by the...
	We started a social media campaign in January, where we're putting out three videos a day on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and Facebook.
	And people can follow those at Cosmic Summit 2023.
	And what we're doing is taking clips of the speakers that will be at the Cosmic Summit in other contexts and other podcasts through the years, even, and putting their ideas out there.
	Boom, it's gone viral.
	Yeah.
	You know, now we're doing it professionally, you know, and it's a paid operation.
	But the interest is there.
	We've collected nearly 10 million interactions, you know, in less than two or three months.
	And we're getting up to, you know, it's really creating a community that we hope we can turn into people that will buy the live stream.
	And we're going to actually advertise to these people.
	Yeah.
	And see if they'll buy the live stream because they've indicated an interest in these subjects, and if they do buy the live stream, if they're interested, they can join the Cosmic Circle, and then we'll have a place to go, in addition to the places that we love already and the YouTubers that we love already, you know, that cover these subjects like Jimmy Corsetti and Ben Kirkwick,
	you know, is doing fascinating work at Uncharted X. Well, then you guys, you need some, I mean, I'm really glad you're having this much success because you're, I don't really call it an industry, but your group, my perception is you guys really haven't had much money for many years.
	I mean, you've been scrapping it to go travel and do digs and do papers and stuff, but you deserve, right?
	I mean, I hope you don't mind me saying that.
	To say the very least, Mike, but I've got to draw a line between, and I wouldn't call it an awkward line, but it's one I've got to make sure.
	There's the Cosmic Comet Research Group.
	Which are dusty old PhD scientists and dusty old guys to come, right?
	Okay, so those are just like you would picture scientists, but these are obviously open-minded, wonderful people who follow the data where it leads.
	And then we've got this production.
	This is not a production from the comet research.
	I understand.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a separate deal.
	But I would imagine that as you have more funds under your command, you're going to be offering grants and funding and things like that.
	And by the way, we're contributing.
	Let me update you, in fact, on our contribution.
	So, you know, I interviewed one of your scientists.
	And in that, we decided that we wanted to, because we have two ICP-MS instruments in our lab right now.
	And we wanted to acquire a laser ablation interface so that we could process geological samples for the elemental ratio analysis, such as platinum and iridium.
	So I talked to my team about it.
	Everybody was thumbs up.
	So I talked to my lab chemist, and she went out and found the laser ablation hardware, and it turns out it's a quarter of a million dollars, which I did not know.
	What?
	Right, right.
	So, but I want to tell you, we haven't given up on the project.
	We now have an internal fundraising effort where I have to achieve certain, like we have to have a certain amount of support from our reader base and customers in order to be able to set aside this actual $250,000 to get this laser ablation interface.
	But we intend to do it, and we intend to do the analysis for your group for free to donate the lab time and to participate in the science.
	That is extraordinarily generous, Mike Adams.
	That is extraordinarily generous.
	And almost, please, if you need to back off to another tool that's not a quarter million dollars that could assist us, please do.
	We already checked.
	There isn't anything.
	Like, there's nothing under 200K that works.
	For this.
	There's used equipment, but we don't want to mess with the used stuff.
	Well, we've got samples and have for nearly two decades now backed up out the door.
	You would not believe the amazing materials that people find around the world and contact us.
	And some of it, obviously, is not going to be relevant to it.
	But there is no question in mind that there are untested locations that people have found all over the world on their own that would exhibit, you know, rock hard data driven proof that some of the oldest stories of man are true.
	Well, there's actually two things.
	Number one, once we get that laser ablation interface installed and tested, which may take the rest of this year, by the way.
	But once we get it in place, and of course, we have to buy the external calibration standards so that we have the correct parts per billion multipoint calibration line, the curve, as you know.
	But we already have a source for that.
	Once we get this up and running, you guys can just send us a steady stream of accurately labeled samples and we'll just start sending you back PDFs.
	But in the meantime, we do have a really high-end laboratory digital microscope.
	It's about a $100,000 rig.
	And we've been wanting to get samples from you of the spherules or anything that we can see.
	Yeah.
	Well, loop me in on that.
	Okay.
	I'm not getting them right now.
	I knew of it.
	And, you know, our prospects have actually brightened, Mike, I should say.
	I guess it hasn't been announced yet, but it's not a real...
	Nobody's looking for it.
	But we've received a significant donation.
	Excellent.
	Right?
	But what that's going to do, there's so many pieces and parts of scientific publication.
	One is data analysis.
	Two is paper writing.
	Yeah.
	And just general coordination and coordination with other scientists that may be able to help us and whatnot.
	So we've kind of locked that down better than we ever have.
	That's excellent.
	It'll be announced who that person is or at least in the amount that was given us.
	And it's going to put us on about a five-year paid trajectory to be more productive at the Comet Research Group than ever had.
	And it'll also allow us to feed operations like you're describing that very generous effort that is so on point.
	There are a lot of ways to give to things and they're always appreciated, but actually purchasing instrumentation That helps add to the evidence and the labor involved in that is top notch, sir.
	Thank you.
	Well, George, I mean, look, you know, this instrumentation, I don't mean to geek out too much, but, you know, you can't just buy an ICP-MS and a laser ablation interface and start going to town on that.
	You know, you have to have a whole facility around it.
	You have to have venting.
	You have to have a nitric acid digestion station with proper vent hood equipment.
	And, you know, we are ISO accredited.
	ISO 17025.
	So you know how hard that is to get?
	It took us like 18 months just to go through the freaking paperwork.
	And then they do on-site audits and inspections, and then you have to do blind testing where they send you samples.
	Proficiency testing is called PT. And then the freaking equipment, just the annual maintenance on one ICP-MS is now like $45,000.
	That's just replacing the usable parts.
	Well, I know it's going to pay off for you because it gives your customers trust of what you're selling.
	You're not joking around.
	No, we're not joking around.
	No, we do this.
	I know a little bit about people thinking that you have test results that somehow weren't produced with the greatest instruments or by sloppy researchers or stuff because we get accused of that.
	And you are surely equally meticulous to the Comet Research Group on how we approach this stuff because you've got to protect your integrity or your word means nothing.
	Oh, yeah.
	We, again, ISO accreditation requires proficiency testing and blind testing.
	And in the food industry, we're the only people that really do this.
	That's so important to the data, too.
	That makes it so much more easily publishable, right?
	And then that stuff blinds people in scientific papers.
	But you need to put, what did you use?
	How was it calibrated?
	By which standards is that equipment governed?
	And having something like that is just gold to science.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And, you know, with laser ablation equipment, though, we can also do things like, for example, if you dig up a bone sample, you know, we can ablate the bone material and do, you know, an isotopic ratio analysis of the elements that made up that skeleton, and you can actually see, did this person live in a time when there was a certain type of contamination?
	I want to get you the really wild stuff.
	Yeah, please do.
	We've got some that, you know it's legit, but I just want to know what's in their soil, is literally what that is.
	And all of that, we have protocols that can be shared.
	I mean, y'all will get trained up for it by Malcolm and others that have spent, my gosh, those senior scientists at the Comet Research Group, we lost one of them last week, Dr.
	Ted Bunch, who was formerly head of exobiology at NASA and was the very, very earliest meteorite researchers in the 1950s.
	And Ted died with two 22 year old daughters last week and he was 88.
	I mean, this is a hell of a guy, right?
	And he was incredibly productive for us.
	But what's happening, you know, is those brave gentlemen who most of them were retired before they would come out with this data, right?
	That's another phenomenon, which you can imagine the motivation that you've got to become uncancelable as an academic, basically retired, to come out and work on some of these subjects.
	And I don't think that was much more true 15 years ago.
	I think it's going to get better and better, but it is a fact.
	So God bless these brave gentlemen, you know, who are all in their 80s now, who were publishing these papers in their late 60s.
	Right?
	And God bless a new generation of people like Chris Moore, who's going to be coming in and doing the paper writing at the University of South Carolina, and soon to be Dr.
	Mark Young at Flinders University in Australia, that there's a bench coming in.
	Yeah.
	And we look to be producing science and data and irrefutable publications for many years to come.
	Well, I would love it if you could connect me to some of those people for interviews as they wish to be interviewed.
	Perhaps after they're publishing a paper, if they want to come on and talk about it, that would be fantastic.
	And also other speakers at your summit.
	Mark Young would be a great one.
	Okay.
	Look, we welcome anybody you recommend.
	And at some point, pass my name along to Graham Hancock himself, because I've never interviewed Graham Hancock, believe it or not.
	But I think I would give him a great opportunity to tell his story and also answer some of the insane critics.
	The arguments against Graham Hancock are not rooted in good faith.
	They are bad faith smears.
	Oh, they're strategic smears.
	Yes.
	They're well-crafted smears where actually the writer knows that they are creating a smear, but they have no moral problem with that.
	But...
	So yeah, I think we're going to win this thing over time.
	And it just all comes down to public interest.
	And it's got to be, you know, you can't have the science without the public interest.
	And you can't have the public interest without the science.
	They've got to grow together.
	And they're growing right now.
	Why is the establishment so terrified of us rewriting our understanding of history?
	You know, what is it that threatens them so much about this?
	Yeah, you've got to remember, particularly say things like archaeology.
	That some people even debate, I'll give them the moniker, but some people even debate whether it's a science, right?
	Because archaeology, it doesn't have reproducible experiments in particular, right?
	It is evidence that is gathered and an interpretation made according to it, right?
	So if everyone's had to make interpretations over years and years about what our deep past looks like, you end up with a certain watered-down, lowest common denominator understanding of the past because they don't really know.
	Right?
	And they're never going to tell you that.
	They're going to tell you what their teacher told them or maybe some of that plus a little bit of work.
	Right?
	And there's something to be said for that, for the, you know, science to be hard to move.
	But when you come and tell them, and you kind of got a feel for them in a way, I feel for them collectively, maybe not individually, some of the characters, that you come and tell them that basically a lot of what you said about a very important time period to your lifetime of study has been just dead wrong.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And the evidence, contrary to your way of thinking, has been laying before you for 15 years.
	And it's human nature, and it's a dark part of human nature.
	And I think there are a lot of people that...
	What's upsetting is the people that...
	You know there are going to be...
	The vast numbers of them who don't speak up aren't going to speak up to either side, right?
	And try to avoid the issue.
	Yeah, true.
	But there's so many...
	The point is the numbers that come out and actually go at it.
	They've accused of out-and-out fraud, technical fraud.
	And that's a long time ago.
	And thank goodness, because they're not going to come back anytime soon.
	In fact, our critics have, at least in the peer review publications, are very, very quiet right now.
	I would imagine.
	That's right.
	So that's why I like to get out and get as loud as we can be and say, hey, come get us.
	Come take a look at our data.
	Come at it, but do it fairly.
	There's also an element among the critics that is actively involved in deliberate cover-ups.
	I think a good example of that is if you go to the Great Pyramids of Giza in Egypt, the Egyptian authorities absolutely do not want people taking a closer look at what's in there or under there or the caverns or anything.
	It's like, no, don't look at this.
	Gobekli Tepe, I think.
	Weren't there some elements there that were kind of buried with rubble to kind of hide some...
	Well, they certainly take their time, and there's something to be said for that, you know?
	Yeah.
	But they've actually covered some stuff up at Gobekli Tepe.
	And, of course, the whole site was originally covered.
	That's not what I'm referring to.
	Right, but, I mean, I think they re-covered some parts because it showed too much.
	Yeah, you've got to wonder.
	You know, I don't think they're...
	You know, most active, coordinated conspiracies are driven by money one way or another.
	And there are ways you could get to institutional money and funding and stuff being threatened so you might involve yourself in some manner of conspiracy.
	But I think it's more willful ignorance.
	Right?
	And that's sad.
	You'd almost wish it was a sophisticated, highly organized, controlled conspiracy.
	When what it is is just sorry-ass human nature that would rather be willfully ignorant of the truth than to contradict themselves and what their own personal career narrative is.
	Yeah, God forbid, make the professors rewrite their lectures, huh?
	That's right.
	But I wouldn't put anything past at least the newest generation of these folks.
	I mean, they have completely broken these disciplines.
	I mean, anybody that can look at modern archaeology and a lot of the stuff that they're publishing, you know, on the cultural side and whatnot, and doesn't detect an absolute woke chip on their shoulder in every other sentence, you know, they are trying to push a narrative.
	And 20 years ago, you didn't see that.
	You know, an archaeologist was probably the old conservative old fuddy-duddy that you can imagine.
	And now they've...
	Come out and have all of the attributes of a TikToker, you know, a communist TikToker.
	Well, George, let me tell you, it's not just archaeology.
	In medical schools, they're now teaching doctors imaginary physiology.
	They're teaching young doctors to perform imaginary examinations on biological men pretending to be women.
	They're getting OBGYN examinations for parts that they don't have.
	Now, that's crazy.
	I mean, you know, the madness of crowds, hopefully madness will break.
	And this isn't a permanent intellectual totalitarianism.
	You know, I was more worried a year ago.
	I think, God, I hope it's reached kind of peak, but it's going to be a long clawing back fight to get our institutions back in shape and restore meritocracy to them, first of all, because you need smart people to In the right positions, not the politically proper people.
	This brings us back to the whole concept of the comet impact theory, because perhaps human civilizations had reached the apex of reason at one point, because we know those ancient civilizations now, they had architectural knowledge.
	They obviously had knowledge of the stars and the movement of the planets around the sun and the moons of other planets as well.
	They knew law.
	They knew language and writing.
	They had structure.
	They had culture.
	They knew deep math.
	Absolutely.
	Mathematics.
	And then, you know, compare that to where we are today.
	So one comet is all it takes, you know, to take us out.
	And we should be wary of that.
	Absolutely.
	And there's so many indications now.
	And I came at the precursor civilization, as I call it, carefully.
	Because I was so fortunate to have a seat on the bus with the scientists.
	I sometimes call myself the ball boy for the comet research team.
	It's like a basketball team that has a bunch of stars, but there's always one guy in the bus that knows all the stats, knows all the rumors, cannot play basketball, but is the number one fan.
	You know, that's kind of me with these scientists, right?
	Oh, where was I heading with that?
	You were saying you're the ball boy for the group.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of a ball boy, but...
	I forget where I was heading with it, but the better days are ahead of it.
	Oh, as far as being, so I was there with the scientists, right?
	And so you're privileged to kind of be there and you're publishing papers.
	I've got a bunch of academic citations.
	Heck, I barely made it out of college.
	And then you increasingly become, because that's where most of the activity is, at least online, you start listening to the speculators.
	It's been going on for 25 years.
	So then I start getting in touch with them.
	Then I make great personal friends with Graham Hancock.
	So then I have a foot in both camps.
	You know, and it requires that to get to the truth because the science today, those institutions and academics that we're talking about, they don't push themselves.
	They don't push beyond any point.
	You know, they don't hold any weird theories.
	Science has always grown out of weird, impossible theories that were dismissed at first.
	So I challenge any of these archaeologists or science communicators, Neil deGrasse Tyson, for instance.
	Neil, what's your one heterodox theory?
	No discovery has ever emerged without a heterodox theory.
	So, sir, do you have one place where you think somebody's getting a raw deal that has absolutely valid data, and we need to follow up on it, and it's being suppressed, not actively and conspiratorially, but just sociologically?
	And they don't see the people like DeGrasse Tyson and whatnot.
	They just, they defend the known.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Yeah, Neil deGrasse Tyson, I mean, in our circles, he's an establishment propagandist of the establishment narrative.
	I mean, that's how we see him.
	He's completely uninteresting.
	He just rehashes and redescribes known things.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	He defends them to anyone that says there may be a different understanding here.
	But he has no intellectual curiosity or courage.
	To find out.
	I mean, science has to be an expanding knowledge base.
	And in order to expand it, you have to challenge the boundaries.
	Nobody's got to be pushing up against the fences.
	And what they define is that whenever they talk about radical theories or great discoveries, one way or another, they always are incremental.
	You know, they're not, you know, and find me one where they announce it and say, yeah, I was on the program a couple years ago.
	Remember when I said I think this guy's right?
	Well, now we've nailed it.
	You know, it's not.
	Tyson takes the lowest hanging fruit of science, the known, and walks around with it and goes nowhere else.
	See, I'd love Joe Rogan just once to say, and we actually tried on Twitter to start a little campaign called Ask Neil Now.
	Hey, Neil, there have been 42 people Well, actually 175 peer-reviewed papers back and forth on the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis.
	Do you believe there could be any validity to this data that there was a catastrophe?
	And I'd like to see what Tyson says, you know?
	But, you know, I'm getting way down in the rabbit hole now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the rabbit hole.
	Isn't that also the name of one of your podcasts here?
	Yeah, yeah.
	The podcast that Graham would be on, you know, our little webinar thing, is rabbithole.live.
	There we go.
	I thought that was a good, yeah, because everybody these days drops that term.
	We all do.
	It's so fitting because we're all, you know, all doing it.
	I said, my gosh, nobody's, you know, nobody's using that.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	Hey, did you know that if you use the term red-pilled, the FBI says you might be an extremist?
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Red-pilled now.
	So if you cite the Matrix movie...
	But probably soon it'll be the rabbit hole.
	Yeah.
	If you go down the rabbit hole, you might be an extremist.
	How about that?
	There we go.
	All right.
	George, this has been a lot of fun, but I want to wrap this up and be respectful of your time.
	Let me just review everything for folks here.
	Okay.
	So number one, Cosmic Summit 2023 is the website.
	And all the tickets are sold out in person.
	They have been for a long time.
	People can purchase live stream access.
	How much does that cost, by the way?
	Yeah, it's $49.
	$49.
	Okay.
	And then they just watch it on those days, I guess.
	Can they watch it after that too?
	You absolutely can.
	Okay.
	So is it like a...
	It's video on demand.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's video on demand.
	Is it forever?
	It is forever.
	Oh, okay.
	Forever.
	Until the internet stops working.
	That's right.
	For the next impact.
	Okay.
	Yeah, all the tickets are good until the next impact happens.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
	If anybody that actually buys the internet, buys the live stream now and chooses to be a part of the Cosmic Circle, that will be forever in case we ever re-up and make it $50 a year.
	Everybody that comes in before the event is in for good.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And in the meantime, I'm hoping that you'll connect me with some folks that I can interview that are part of your circle, and I'm going to keep raising money for the laser ablation.
	And what else am I doing on Mars?
	Oh, yeah.
	We can do the microscopy of anything you send us.
	Hey, that's music to my ears.
	I'm going to share that with more of the research group.
	I know you're in touch with Malcolm and his mothers, but I just want to make sure everybody is aware that we've had this gracious, gracious offer from a highly skilled technical facility.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And in fact, if your scientists want to come out and take a look at what we have, I'll be happy to give them a tour.
	And interestingly, we just did purchase a gas chromatography interface for our triple quad mass spec for testing dioxin fallout.
	Really?
	Yes.
	In fact, we just got that hardware.
	The install is happening like a month from now or something.
	And then I have to go in for a week of training on that.
	But we'll have GC-MS-MS. We already have ICP-MS times two.
	We'll have the laser ablation ICP. And then, of course, we have several instruments that are single quad mass spec LC-MS on top of that.
	Well, I'll tell you, the Health Ranger has got some kit, man.
	Well, it's because of our supporters.
	I mean, our readers and customers, they buy our food, our products, and we invest the profits into infrastructure to have this stuff.
	And our lab is larger than most university labs in this space, actually.
	Oh, I felt privileged to go look through it, man.
	I was very, very impressed.
	I told everybody back home about it, too.
	And I just want to stress, too, this Cosmic Summit thing, yeah, it's a for-profit business and I own it, but I'm taking all the profits and putting it into next year.
	Yes.
	Trying to make it bigger, trying to make the live stream better.
	I'm not going to make any money on it, and I'm not trying to brag about that.
	But you know how it is.
	Sometimes it's good to take a passionate idea and Put it in a business context and run the business to fulfill your idea.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And it gives you an accountability framework that you know if you aren't being good at getting your idea out, then you're not going to make any money and you're going to be out of this and back to tweeting.
	Yeah, I mean, you can't get anything done in poverty.
	You've got to have resources.
	That's right.
	To travel, you know, to host speakers, to pay for the hotel rooms for the speakers, right?
	That's right.
	Those guys aren't going to just pay their own hotel rooms.
	You've got to comp them the rooms to show up, you know?
	I mean, everybody, their time is valuable.
	No, no, it's ended up being kind of an expensive endeavor, and there's some investment to it.
	But gosh knows, if the people didn't come and...
	You know, make it a success.
	And we just want to keep doing that.
	We're going to bring it to a much larger venue in 2024.
	And we'll be announcing that at the Cosmic Summit 23, June 17th and 18th.
	And we'll tell you where it'll be the next year.
	And we're going to make sure that we don't have to turn, God knows, hundreds of people away as we did this year.
	Well, make it bigger.
	At least have seating for at least a thousand next year.
	I'm thinking maybe more, maybe a couple thousand.
	Yeah, I'm thinking maybe two, too.
	If you get above that, we've got a room that will go to five.
	But then it just, you know, I don't think you're providing the experience people deserve.
	So probably thinking tops, too.
	Yeah, probably.
	I agree with you.
	Yeah, tops 2,000.
	It'll get much more complicated, but the facility has wonderful educational areas that are perfectly suited where you can bring people in and out For plenary sessions and also split them out to go hear Randall Carlson give a sacred geometry lesson or Mark Young talk about proxy identification using the kind of equipment that you've been describing.
	You know, we'll have some good geeky breakouts and all the rest that goes with a second generation conference because this first one, you know, is our first shot at it.
	So we try to keep it simple.
	Absolutely.
	And you can send some free tickets for next year to Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	Give him front row seats so he can learn.
	Like, come on, Neil.
	Open your eyes.
	Pay attention to what's going on here.
	I don't know.
	Are you aware of Michael Shermer, you know, of Skeptic Magazine?
	Oh, I've heard of him, yeah.
	He's kind of America's number one skeptic, but he's kind of beloved, too, because he does it in a very, very good way.
	He's got a good way about it.
	Well, you know, He went on Rogan.
	This is little appreciated.
	He went on Rogan and debated Graham about four years ago.
	He had a comic research group, Graham, Randall, and then Mark, I forget his name now, good guy, because he recanted too.
	And Shermer, and they had a lively debate to save the list.
	Both of the opponents of Graham have recounted.
	Really?
	It's yes on the part about the catastrophe.
	Wow.
	They both read a paper that came out in the intervening time.
	It tipped their scale, and they went on Twitter and said, as regards to catastrophe, I can still learn, and I want to show my scientific integrity.
	I'm not putting words in their mouth, but it was that kind of thing.
	And I said, wow.
	Wow.
	Shermer is a total pro to come out and say, hey, Graham, you actually seem to be right that all the world went to shit 13,000 years ago.
	Yeah.
	You know, I don't know about your civilization, but, you know, so that's welcome.
	And we might bring Shermer next year to come tell us how he came to that conclusion.
	Well, that would be fascinating.
	Yeah.
	Look, we honor people who are willing to reassess the evidence as it emerges.
	That's right.
	And, you know, we don't have any grudges against people.
	We just want to know the truth about human civilization, where we came from, what it means about who we are.
	Yeah.
	Nothing better than saying, I'm wrong.
	Let's move ahead and figure out what I'm right about.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And let's do it before the next impact.
	So we actually have the ability to have a historical record here.
	Indeed.
	Yeah, because who knows what was lost in that first impact that, of course, we'll never find.
	How many libraries, how many stones, how many inscriptions, how many cities?
	We'll never know.
	Yeah, and I think it could have been, if Graham's right, it could have been a very small and delicate record.
	Not quite like our own, right?
	No, of course, yeah.
	Who says you have to have 8 billion people?
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, when future archaeologists dig up our layer of plastic trash, it's going to be, you know, 10 billion AOL CDs from 1995.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
	There will be no mistaking what happened here.
	Like, they trashed the whole freaking planet.
	There were too many of them, and they were all stupid.
	Yeah, it was a suicide cult that just destroyed everything.
	Look at what happened.
	The mass extinction layer.
	You're good, Mike.
	I enjoy talking with you, bud.
	Okay, you too, George.
	Have a great show.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	It's always a pleasure.
	Okay, love to see you again, pal.
	Okay, you too.
	Take care now.
	Bye.
	All right, folks, that's George Howard there from CosmicSummit2023.com is the website.
	It's going to be a really exciting event.
	I'm going to tune in and also listen to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and some of the other speakers as well.
	Hopefully get some more interviews with some other folks in this space because...
	The more we understand about where we came from, the better we can, I think, shape where we're going.
	I mean, hopefully we're going someplace other than mass extinction.
	That's my hope anyway.
	Humanity is worth saving, which means it's worth learning about who we are.
	So thank you for watching today.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com and the lab director of our lab that we talked about, CWC Labs.
	Thanks for listening.
	We'll talk to you later.
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