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March 9, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Situation Update, Mar 9, 2023 - Chlorine Dioxide Solution demonstration and interview with EPA whist

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	Welcome to the situation update podcast for Thursday, March 9th, 2023 on I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
	Thank you for joining me.
	Got some interesting stuff to share with you today and quite a remarkable interview coming up.
	Hasn't been filmed yet, but the interview is with Dr.
	David Lewis right here.
	He's the author of this extraordinary book called Science for Sale.
	And I interviewed Dr.
	Lewis.
	He's an EPA whistleblower.
	And I interviewed him years ago for the documentary called Biosludged, which you can find at biosludged.com.
	And we're going to get Dr.
	David Lewis' thoughts on this molecule, you know, dioxin.
	This is, well, 2378 TCDD. And we're going to see what he thinks about that and the EPA cover-ups and so much more.
	Now, also...
	On my desk right now, let me show you this.
	We're running an experiment.
	This is pretty cool.
	I don't know if you can...
	Yeah, you can probably see that.
	So we're making chlorine dioxide solution.
	And a few minutes ago, I filmed a segment of how to make it.
	That was maybe 10 minutes ago.
	And what's happening is the chlorine dioxide is in this shot glass inside this container, this sealed vessel, and the chlorine dioxide gas is coming out of the shot glass and it's infusing the water around it, which makes the perfect antiseptic solution for washing vegetables, destroying dioxins, using as a topical antiseptic.
	It destroys COVID. It destroys influenza.
	This is one of the most important emergency medical discoveries, I think, in the history of medicine.
	So what we're going to be doing here is checking in on that.
	And I'm going to show you what this looks like when it's done as it kind of bakes.
	Not really baking.
	It infuses the water a little bit more.
	And then I'm going to drink some of this on camera to show you what I do with it.
	Not that I'm recommending that you do that, but I'm going to do it because I take ivermectin.
	And if I feel symptoms of a flu or sickness or something, I use chlorine dioxide solution.
	Personally, that's not medical advice for you.
	That's just something that I do, and I use it with my ranch animals as well to keep them healthy and free of infection.
	So, for example, with my chickens, I don't vaccinate my chickens.
	I use chlorine dioxide.
	They don't need vaccines, and they don't have bird flu.
	They're perfectly healthy.
	In fact, they're living to a healthy old age.
	Anyway, that's some of what's coming up in today's show.
	I want to start with another train derailment in Oklahoma.
	I'm going to just play the video for you here.
	Now, I'm not playing the sound from the video, but you can see that this train is derailing right in front of these people.
	Something very bad, obviously, is happening.
	You know, it's literally off the rails.
	I do want to say that these people are oblivious to the risk of being that close to a derailing train.
	You should not be standing there within, what is that, 30 feet or 40 feet, whatever that is.
	No way.
	You should be getting out of there because, well, the rail cars behind these can start to, you know, pancake together and zigzag, and they can be ejected quite a distance away from the tracks.
	And since you don't know necessarily what kind of chemicals are found in there, What kind of explosion might happen?
	You want to steer clear of train wrecks.
	It's also kind of worrisome that it seems like more train disasters are happening across America.
	But again, if one happens close to you like that, do a U-turn.
	Get your vehicle out of there as quickly as possible and see if you can help Others who are too close to this because things can go horribly wrong very, very quickly.
	Next story is from moonofalabama.org and this is referring to the news about the Nord Stream attack.
	Now the New York Times and the U.S. intelligence community has put out all this chaff, as it's being called, claiming that Nord Stream was blown up by some Ukrainian group I don't know, like three guys in a fishing boat or something, which is insane.
	But as this story talks about, it's just more noise.
	It's a cover-up from the intelligence community.
	Everybody in the world knows that the United States Navy blew up the Nord Stream pipelines.
	I mean, you have to have an elaborate, accomplished diving team.
	They have to dive down to something like 80 or 90 meters.
	That's not just casual tourist diving.
	You have to have special equipment.
	And then they have to drill through the concrete enclosure of the pipeline, and then they have to plant explosives, and then they have to have a way to detonate those explosives remotely in the future.
	This is an elaborate operation.
	The U.S. Navy had the means to do it.
	The U.S. State Department had the motive to do it.
	The U.S. carried out this act of terrorism against Germany and Russia and, frankly, all of Western Europe.
	And now Western Europe is paying the price.
	So, of course, the New York Times is involved in the cover-up to try to convince you that this is just a clown show of fishermen who carry this out.
	That's insane.
	All right, the next story is from the expose.
	Before the COVID pandemic was deployed, Moderna's CEO told staff, quote, we need to make a billion doses of vaccines next year.
	There's going to be a pandemic.
	Yeah, well, how did he know?
	Of course, because it was all scripted.
	This whole thing is a giant Truman Show.
	You're living in a Truman Show Matrix kind of world reality, which is why we chose this background today.
	This is like entering the Truman Show.
	Look at that.
	You're entering the Matrix Zone.
	Through the looking glass, through the portal, into the Truman Show world.
	And that's what's being presented to us each and every day with all the fictions of the media, the fake science, the fake plandemics, the fake...
	Medical journals, the Lancet, whatever.
	It's just unreal.
	Even fake genders.
	In fact, I've got a story about that today that I have to share with you here.
	Let me find it.
	Oh, here it is.
	From thepostmillennial.com, California allows 47 biological men to transfer to women's prison.
	Note, women's prison.
	But they approve no request of biological women to move to the men's prison, essentially.
	So, somehow, they're letting biological men pretend to be women and move into the women's prison where, of course, they rape the women.
	Because, well, they're criminals.
	They're convicts.
	And this is perfectly okay with California.
	And, by the way, the left...
	The political left, they seem to be okay with this.
	Like, oh, women?
	You know, forget about protecting women now.
	It's about protecting trans, well, trans women or biological men pretending to be women and allowing them to become rapists in a controlled prison system.
	Like, that's actually where we are, where the state of California builds a prison, puts women in the prison, and then puts men in with the women to rape the women and calls that equality.
	Yep.
	That's the radical left for you today.
	That's California.
	And now Justin Trudeau, just California is not the only insane place in the northern hemisphere here.
	Justin Trudeau, government plans to make it easier to invoke the Emergencies Act and freeze bank accounts, you see, because it wasn't enough to freeze the bank accounts after the truckers, you know, the trucker protests, protesting the lockdowns and the COVID mandates and the mask mandates and all that nonsense.
	So now they want to make it easier to freeze bank accounts.
	So If anybody out there is watching from Canada, do not become part of the central bank digital currency system.
	Obviously, it's a trap.
	It's an enslavement system.
	In fact, you need to get out of the banking system as quickly as possible and have many different means of barter and trade.
	You know, have some gold and silver.
	Understand how crypto works.
	Maybe own a little bit of Bitcoin or at least know what a wallet is, a digital wallet for crypto.
	Know how it works.
	Have some seeds, have some ammunition, things for barter.
	Even power tools.
	I've joked about this.
	Actually, people have teased me about it, but power tools are a very...
	They hold value and they can be very useful in a collapse scenario because you can charge them with a solar power generator.
	In fact, if you go to our sponsor's website, sat123.com, that's the satellite phone store, and if you just scroll down like I'm doing here, you'll see that you have all these EcoFlow.
	Power stations, power generators, solar power stations, whatever you want to call them.
	And here's the solar panels and so on.
	These, especially the higher-end ones, can be used to run blenders.
	They can be used to charge power tools.
	And the power tools that I recommend, by the way, are the Milwaukee brand here.
	They're not a sponsor, but I've tried lots of different brands of power tools.
	And Milwaukee, it's red.
	It's easy to see.
	You've got hammer drills and you've got All kinds of things.
	They have an M18 system, which is good, M12, and so on.
	And they have a pack-out storage system that you can see here, which is actually watertight, and it prevents tools from rusting due to water condensation.
	So this is actually a great tool system.
	And then the satellite phone store that I just showed you, where is it here?
	This can be used to charge those power tools.
	So these are barter items, and just remember, whatever you end up with, whatever you stockpile for barter, Just take advantage of the fact that you can get it now.
	And of course, you know, we offer storable food and number 10 cans of food and things like that.
	But also look at ammo, look at firearms, look at all kinds of things that will hold value because that barter emergency scenario is absolutely coming.
	All right, one more story from the Exposé News website.
	Here it is.
	Doctors find that graphene is shedded from the COVID vaccinated to the unvaccinated, forming blood clots and decimating blood cells.
	This is another really important story that talks about how this works.
	Shards of graphene are being transmitted from vaccinated people to unvaccinated people, causing blood clots in the unvaccinated.
	So this may be one of the explanations for what's happening.
	Now, I know there are blood clots, and then there are also non-blood clots, which are probably the protein clots that we've seen before, the fibrous clots, whatever those are.
	There may be different explanations for different types of clotting that's happening in people's bodies, and there may be different factors.
	The spike protein is obviously a factor.
	Graphene may be a factor, as this story is talking about.
	And a lot of people also believe that 5G may also be a factor that somehow activates Nanowires or nanostructures in the body, and there are a lot of different doctors and experts covering that angle as well.
	So I have a feeling that there's an element of truth to all of this and that there are multiple attack vectors coming after humanity, and that's why so many people are dying from this right now.
	Hence the importance of understanding emergency medicine, good nutrition, prevention, having healthy blood, And eating healthy oils, avoiding the cheap seed oils at the grocery store and at restaurants.
	Do not eat canola oil.
	Do not eat soy oil, corn oil, or vegetable shortening of any kind.
	And watch out for crackers and cookies and things like that at the grocery store.
	They contain shortening, which is typically like a genetically modified Canola oil or soy oil, partially hydrogenated oil, which contains trans fatty acids that are horrible for your health.
	Those trans fats promote diabetes and heart disease and cognitive decline and infertility and obesity.
	And if you eat those things, then you're actually setting up your blood to be destroyed by potentially graphene or the spike protein.
	These things that I'm showing you right now, the spike protein, the graphene, whatever might be in, whatever's shedding from people, This is less likely to affect you if you lead a healthy lifestyle.
	And so again, here's my daily smoothie.
	I'm very fortunate today.
	I have over half of this jug still remaining.
	Very happy about that.
	But every day I'm having turmeric and avocados and flax seeds and other healthy oils.
	I take ahi flower oil.
	In fact, let me pull that up.
	Here it is in our store, ahi flower oil.
	This is the closest thing to fish oil without using fish.
	This is a plant-based, quote, fish oil.
	I mean, again, it's not from fish.
	Because fish oil has its own supply chain issues.
	We chose to source ahi flour oil, and this will make your blood flow very well.
	This is a very healthy oil.
	There are things I can't say about it because we do sell it.
	I would just say, do your research, find out about The oil profile, the omega-3, 6, 9 ratios in aji flour oil.
	And understand that I think aji flour oil is the healthiest oil from any plant source on the planet.
	And that's why I take it daily, even though I'm also eating healthy and doing avocados and turmeric.
	And I try to avoid canola oil.
	I'm sure I get a little bit whenever I eat out.
	You know, restaurants will typically use the cheapest oils and there's not much you can do about that.
	But you can take an ahi flour oil capsule before you go to the restaurant or with your restaurant meal and also be sure to take vitamin E because vitamin E is a fat-soluble antioxidant.
	That combats the oxidative effects of the cheap oils that you find in restaurants and in many processed foods.
	So ahi flour is also an antioxidant healthy oil just as vitamin E tocopherols are antioxidants that are fat soluble.
	Anyway, look, there are so many solutions for nutrition and health to prevent problems.
	It's just astonishing to me that so many people are sick In a world where the answers are readily available on websites like naturalnews.com or other alternative media sites.
	But that's why we're censored, because the establishment doesn't want you to know about natural medicine, natural cures, or this emergency medicine.
	Where's my flash?
	Oh, here it is.
	Show camera one again.
	See?
	Look at that.
	We're making progress.
	The water is starting to turn slightly yellowish.
	I don't know if you can see the water around the shot glass.
	So we're making progress.
	And if I were to open this up, I would be able to smell kind of like a chlorine dioxide gas at a very low level to know that it's working.
	But this is generating chlorine dioxide solution, which again is a very powerful emergency medicine solution.
	So we'll continue to check in on that.
	So in fact, I think I'm going to jump to the making of this and show you how this was made a few minutes ago.
	And then we'll proceed with the interview, I think, or maybe some offline, outside the studio commentary.
	But there's more straight ahead.
	And remember, stay tuned, because in this broadcast is Dr.
	David Lewis, Science for Sale, the EPA whistleblower.
	We're going to talk about biosludge, dioxins, Biocontamination, bioterrorism in America and around the world.
	This is an excellent book that you'll want to get.
	It's available at booksellers everywhere, Barnes& Noble, Amazon, what have you.
	So stay tuned.
	Much more straight ahead.
	Alright, for today's demonstration, I'm going to show you how to make chlorine dioxide solution, or CDS as it's called.
	This is the method that was taught to me by Andreas Kalker.
	In fact, let me just play a little bit of his video so you can see him.
	Okay, this is Andreas Kalker.
	This is an interview I did with him.
	And he knows the most about chlorine dioxide.
	Very intelligent individual.
	He's got a lot of great information.
	And then there's a website called the Universal Antidote right here.
	TheUniversalAntidote.com that has a lot of free information.
	I don't even know who runs this website, but I think you can download books and you can get how-to videos and all kinds of things.
	So I'm going to demonstrate for you here exactly the same simple way that they use.
	And why do you want to make chlorine dioxide?
	Well, you can stockpile the raw materials to make this yourself.
	This is a very powerful tool.
	Sort of natural antibiotic or antiseptic type of solution.
	And we found out recently that it can also destroy dioxins in wood pulp and also on vegetables as well.
	So if you make a chlorine dioxide solution, you can use it to rinse your garden vegetables or store-bought vegetables.
	It very likely destroys certain types of pesticides and other chemicals as well.
	And then you can just rinse it off with clean water after cleaning it with chlorine dioxide.
	This also, sprayed on surfaces, kills, or I don't know if kills is the right word, but destroys COVID and it was used all over the world as a surface disinfectant.
	So whatever plague they come up with next and release upon the world, if you can make this solution, then you have...
	A defense against whatever they try to throw at us.
	So you're going to need a jar like this that has a lid that you can clamp down with that latch like that.
	And you're going to need a tall shot glass.
	And what I've put into both of these is simply rainwater.
	And what we're going to do is we're going to place this shot glass inside here where it's...
	The water level in the shot glass, it doesn't matter if it's higher or lower than the water level of this container, but you want to make sure that the shot glass rim stands out above this water level here.
	What we're going to do is using a pipette here, we're going to put our chlorine dioxide solution into the shot glass and then The gas from that is going to come out and it's going to infuse all of this water that's around the shot glass.
	And over a period of minutes and certainly even over hours, you're going to have chlorine dioxide infused water.
	And that's the CDS. This is called chlorine dioxide solution.
	That's what you're going to end up using to wash your vegetables or clean surfaces or other uses as you find appropriate.
	Now, when you're making chlorine dioxide, you're going to use two bottles.
	One bottle contains the sodium chloride dissolved in water.
	And this contains that at, I think, about 22% sodium chloride compared to water.
	And that's by weight.
	And then this bottle is the acid that's added to it in order to activate the sodium chloride.
	And this contains 4% hydrochloric acid.
	In a pinch, in kind of a ditch medicine scenario, you can use things like citric acid or vinegar or other types of acid, even phosphoric acid, but just make sure it's a very small percentage.
	Follow all the instructions that you find in online videos that tell you how to do this safely and practice all safety precautions.
	Of course, keep it out of your eyes.
	You might wear eye protection.
	I'm not because I'm very familiar with using pipettes and so on, but you might want to do so.
	Typically, you just add, let's say, 10 drops of this and 10 drops of this to make a solution.
	And that solution, some people use that directly.
	Some people even consume it orally, although that's not what I'm recommending here.
	I'm just demonstrating how to make it and use it as a topical antiseptic type of solution.
	But I'm going to use one mil, and so I have my pipette here.
	I went over this the other day.
	We're going to dial in 1,000 microliters.
	There we go.
	So that's set at 1 milliliter right now.
	And you see it says 1,000 right there.
	So I'm now going to add a couple of mils of the MMS solution with the sodium chloride into the shot glass.
	Let's do 3 mL.
	mils.
	And then I'm going to add, let's say, three mils of the activator, which contains the 4% hydrochloric acid.
	And then what you're going to notice, although it might be difficult to see on camera, you're going to notice that the color starts to change inside although it might be difficult to see on camera, you're going And that is the reaction taking place.
	It's already generating chlorine dioxide inside the shot glass.
	So now I'm going to close the lid and clamp it.
	This is why it's important to have an airtight lid with the silicone seal.
	Now, I don't know if you can see it, but the color is already starting to change.
	Let me use my flashlight here and see if this helps.
	There you go.
	You see the green, the greenish kind of color?
	It's already taking shape there.
	You can really see it there.
	Oops.
	Too bright.
	Hold on.
	There we go.
	Alright, so you're actually watching the color change, which is an indicator of the concentration of the chlorine dioxide that's inside the shot glass.
	And it's surrounded by, in this case, rainwater.
	And this rainwater will begin to absorb the gas as the gas comes out of this and infuses into the water.
	And remember, what we're going to end up using is the CDS, or the chlorine dioxide solution, that ends up in the water around the shot glass.
	Okay, so we're going to come back and check on this a little bit.
	And ultimately, the color of the water will also change to more of a slightly yellowish.
	I know it looks maybe yellow-greenish right now.
	But, yeah, I mean, that's a fair assessment.
	It can be slightly yellowish or greenish, and that tells you that it's working on the outside.
	Now, personally, while this is actually working, let's let the chemistry work.
	I have used this, although I can't recommend that you use this orally or that you ingest it.
	I'm only recommending it for cleaning vegetables and cleaning surfaces and using it perhaps topically.
	This is a very powerful antiseptic and it has lots of uses.
	Again, it can break down dioxins as well.
	But I have used it orally.
	And I will take a certain amount if I feel symptoms of like a cold coming on or something.
	I will take two things.
	Again, this is just me.
	I'm not offering you medical advice.
	You need to check with your naturopaths, your physicians.
	You know, you decide what's right for you.
	But what I do is I take ivermectin and I use the same pipette here, by the way.
	I take 1.6 milliliters of a 1% ivermectin solution.
	I demonstrated that the other day.
	And then, separate from that, usually after waiting some period of time, I will also take some amount of CDS, chlorine dioxide solution.
	But how much do I take?
	Well, I'm not here to talk about dosing or even, you know, ingesting it for anybody else other than just myself.
	But I will drink a certain amount of this and I will follow it with water.
	And then I know that it is infusing into my blood and my body and it's running around.
	It is destroying microbes all throughout my blood.
	And I have experienced this working again and again and again.
	In fact, I think that this substance right here terrifies the FDA. And that's why the FDA and the FTC and I don't know who else have gone after every single person that has ever sold this product online or anywhere.
	Many of them are in jail, still in prison, years later, like Mark Grennan and his sons.
	And that's why almost nobody sells this.
	But using information that you can find online, you can make it yourself.
	You can buy flakes of sodium chloride.
	And if you learn and do it safely and know what you're doing, you can get an acid source like vinegar or citric acid.
	You can make this yourself, or you can just stockpile the raw materials to make it.
	And then this can be incredibly useful in a collapsed scenario where, let's say, Somebody needs surgery.
	Somebody needs antiseptics at the local hospital.
	You need to be able to cleanse surfaces and prevent infections.
	But because the supply chain has collapsed, let's say, you know, they're out of povidone iodine or they don't have hydrogen peroxide or whatever.
	You can make this as emergency medicine and you could donate it to the local hospital or you could use it in the field if somebody's wounded in the field.
	And they don't have antiseptics readily available, but you want to stop infections.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Civil War.
	Maybe America is attacked by China or Russia or who knows what, or Mexican drug gangs.
	Who knows at this point?
	This is emergency medicine, and that's what I'm recommending it for.
	Not a replacement for something that you might be able to get right now.
	I mean, I'll use povidone iodine or I'll use isopropyl alcohol or hydrogen peroxide in addition.
	But in an emergency situation, this can be life-saving.
	So that's why I think everybody should know what this is.
	Chlorine dioxide, they should know how to use it.
	And also, I've used it to successfully treat food poisoning.
	Food poisoning is caused typically by bad bacteria in the food that you're eating.
	You've eaten food that's too old.
	Or you took a trip to Mexico and you drank a soda with ice in it and the ice was made from dirty, polluted water with microbes in it.
	Has that ever happened to you?
	Yeah, I've experienced that in South America.
	So this stuff...
	Kills the bacteria in your stomach.
	Even though your stomach acid is probably too weak, your stomach acid isn't killing the bacteria.
	This stuff kills bacteria.
	And it does it very effectively, and it can end food poisoning.
	I've seen it work in minutes.
	And I'm shocked.
	I saw a video the other day of a prepper that was talking about how he got food poisoning and he recommended taking Tylenol.
	And I couldn't believe I was hearing this from someone who's called a prepper.
	You know, every prepper needs to know how to make chlorine dioxide.
	Every prepper.
	Well, this stuff right here.
	If you don't know how to make chlorine dioxide, you're not a prepper, frankly.
	If you don't have these raw materials stockpiled, you're not a prepper.
	Let's take a look at the progress here.
	Ah, yes.
	So not only is it very yellowish green now in the center shot glass, but I don't know if you can see it, but the water around it is starting to get a slight tint, a slight hue of the kind of yellowish color.
	You may not be able to pick it up yet, but I can see it from here.
	And over the next minutes and hours, you will see the color change of the water.
	And then, by the way, after this, we're going to give it some time, but after it's done, I'm going to drink some for you right here on camera just to show you that I drink this, not that you should drink it.
	That's my disclaimer.
	I can't tell you what to do with it, but I absolutely use this.
	The thing to know is that this will be wiped out by vitamin C. So you don't ever want to take it with vitamin C. And if you were to ever take this, it will wipe out the vitamin C stores in your body.
	And then you would have to replenish vitamin C sometime later.
	Anyway, I'm not here to offer you medical advice.
	I'm not here to encourage you to take it orally.
	You need to, again, check with your doctor, with your naturopath.
	Check online.
	Get good information.
	Don't rely on this video as a...
	I'm talking about ditch medicine for antiseptics, washing your vegetables, cleaning surfaces, emergency antiseptics for hospitals and clinics and so on in a collapsed situation.
	I've also, by the way, I have put this in the water and I've fed this to my goats and my dogs and also my chickens.
	And I think this is one of the reasons why my chickens rarely get infections.
	I put it in their water, they drink it routinely, and it helps to keep their systems free from...
	Whatever microbes might be threatening them.
	So I use it on my farm animals.
	Whether you use it with your farm animals, obviously that's up to you.
	But that's another use of this.
	And the thing is, it's dirt cheap.
	It's so dirt cheap.
	If you go out and buy sodium chloride, you'll find...
	And we don't sell any of this, by the way.
	We don't sell the solution.
	We don't sell any of the raw materials.
	If you go out somewhere else and buy this stuff, you'll find it's dirt cheap to make it yourself.
	And that's a great combination.
	I mean, the sodium chloride lasts forever.
	On the shelf, hydrochloric acid lasts years, decades, even other forms of acids.
	Citric acid will last for decades.
	You can stockpile this as a prepper.
	You know how to make it.
	You can make this solution in an emergency.
	You can help save lives locally.
	You can help save people from infections.
	You can help hospitals.
	Save lives from surgery or wounds, bullet wounds, whatever, zombie wounds, whatever the case may be.
	So anyway, again, the website to check out, and I really don't know who runs this website.
	I've been recommending it for years.
	I don't know who runs it.
	But it's called theuniversalantidote.com.
	And there's a lot of great materials there, books, downloads, and videos that show you how to do this yourself.
	And also a lot of scientific information about what this can do against microbes.
	So check it out, and then we'll come back later and check in during the podcast about the progress of this chlorine dioxide solution.
	Thanks for watching, and be sure to check out more of my practical hands-on videos for preparedness at prepwithmike.com.
	Alright folks, I'm about to drink the chlorine dioxide solution that we've been making here during the past hour or whatever it's been.
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	Now we're going to go ahead with consuming some of this chlorine dioxide solution.
	Let me get my flashlight on it here and show you where we are.
	Alright, so now you can clearly see, and this has taken about an hour, maybe a little bit more, you can clearly see that not only do we have the green Well, the shot glass that has the high concentration of chlorine dioxide.
	But then the water around it now is turning a slightly greenish hue, which means it's getting infused with chlorine dioxide.
	So I'm going to open it up.
	I'm going to take out the shot glass and show you just the water by itself.
	So you can see the slight tint, the slight hue of the water.
	I'm going to drink this, some of this, in a rainwater bottle here.
	And let's make sure we do this in one shot so that nobody accuses us of editing this.
	But okay, here we go.
	All right, so this is the solution right there.
	I'm going to use the same pipette here.
	Rinse it out once.
	Going to use the same pipette, grabbing this solution, putting it in the rainwater bottle here, which is, what is that?
	Texas spring water.
	Let's put three mils in there.
	Okay.
	Pop the lid on this.
	Don't cut the camera.
	I don't want anybody to say it's been cut or anything.
	Mixing this up, and I'm going to drink this.
	And I can taste the chlorine dioxide solution slightly.
	It's got a very slight acidic taste.
	Oh, and by the way, I want to put the lid on this so I don't lose the CDS that's already in there because it will...
	It will evaporate out, essentially, if you don't put the lid on it.
	Wow, that light makes it look pretty wild.
	Let me try it from this angle.
	So anyway, I'm just going to consume this, and this will have...
	Again, this is not medical advice for you, but for me, if I were to have symptoms of a flu or something like that, I would just do what I just did.
	I would drink some of this.
	And then I would make sure that I'm not taking vitamin C at the same time because this destroys vitamin C. And what this is doing in my body is now destroying all kinds of microbes or toxic elements.
	It's helping to clean my blood from the inside.
	And I've used it again and again any time I've had flu-like symptoms.
	Notice that I'm not drinking this.
	This is what I poured the MMS and the activator into.
	What I'm drinking is the water that absorbed the gas from that, which created chlorine dioxide solution water.
	And that's what this is.
	And the taste, this is a pretty low concentration.
	The taste is not unpleasant at all.
	At this point, it's almost tasteless.
	Not offensive to me in any way whatsoever.
	But then again, I drink turmeric and avocado, so do what you want for you.
	That's just what I do.
	All right, again, the website for that is called theuniversalantidote.com if you want to learn about chlorine dioxide.
	Just to be clear, we don't sell this.
	I don't know who sells it.
	I'm not recommending anybody who sells it.
	People who try to sell it end up arrested and thrown in prison, probably because this is such important emergency medicine.
	And if people knew about it, well, then that would empower a lot of people with something that they can make and share very inexpensively that can do a lot for human health.
	Might even help end the next plague that they're about to release upon us.
	See, when I say, you know, we're hard to kill, this is what I'm talking about.
	You know, we the people, you and I, the informed, those who have knowledge and know-how about how things actually work in the world, we're hard to kill because we know how to make stuff like this.
	And we know how to beat plagues and pandemics and infections and diseases and all the other things that are killing, you know, the ignorant, sadly.
	And we try to educate and uplift as many people as we can.
	So thank you for your support as we do our job here, what God wants us to be doing, which is to share the truth with the world about how to stay healthy and alive in this time of global extermination of the human population.
	That's the show for today.
	Thank you for watching.
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	Naturalnews.com is my primary article website, and also Brightown.com for interviews, podcasts, and daily situation update videos like this one.
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	God bless you.
	God bless America.
	We'll talk with you tomorrow.
	All right.
	For today's featured interview, we have EPA whistleblower, author, and scientist Dr.
	David Lewis, and he's the author of this extraordinary book, Science for Sale, and this book is available at booksellers everywhere.
	He's working on a second book that he's going to tell us about, or the next book.
	Dr.
	David Lewis is the scientist who opened my eyes to the issue of bio-sludge, Years ago.
	And then he flew to Texas and we filmed Dr.
	Lewis.
	He was featured prominently in the film that I produced called BioSludged, which you can watch for free.
	It's at BioSludged.com.
	And he joins us today to cover what's going on with the EPA in Ohio and elsewhere.
	So thank you for joining me for today's interview, Dr.
	David Lewis.
	It's an honor to have you on, sir.
	It's an honor to have this opportunity with you.
	Thank you.
	Well, no, all the credit goes to you.
	Not everybody knows what you've done for America.
	You were the one who tried to sound the alarm on the pollution of our soils with bio sludge.
	You ran a science lab with the EPA. For those who are new to your story, give us a little bit of background of your experience as a scientist with the EPA. Sure.
	I have actually wanted to be a scientist since I was five years old.
	My father was a Navy pilot and I just developed an interest in science mainly from him encouraging me in that direction once I showed an inclination for it.
	And my love for science has not waned in all these years.
	I'm 74 years old now and yet During that time span, I've seen science, as I knew it, pretty much fall to pieces to become politically driven, to have other agendas beyond just understanding what's going on in water pollution,
	air pollution, and what I ended up focusing on, which was soil pollution, which becomes a source of most, if not, or much, if not most, of our air pollution and water pollution.
	Going through the soil.
	Well, exactly.
	You really opened my eyes to this, and a lot of people, I don't know how many millions have watched the Biosludge documentary or read your book, but it's a lot of people worldwide, so you've had a major impact there.
	But tell us about, and you talk about this in your book, Science for Sale, the EPA forced you out.
	Didn't they cut the funding for your lab when you started to raise the alarm on this and say, wait a minute, why are we polluting all our soils?
	Yes, my case along these lines, my experience DPA developed during my early years on the graduate faculty of the University of Georgia to where what was going on was exactly what President Eisenhower commented on on his way out of the White House when he retired and he mentioned that Science had become
	corrupted within academia, and what I saw was that that was only the beginning, that now that we're having problems with Russia and its allies and China and others,
	get their hands, their fingers in the pie, so to speak, to manipulate what is Published as environmental information is not that in fact.
	More and more cases turn out to be propaganda.
	Yeah, that's a trend that we've all witnessed over the last few years, whether we're talking medicine, biology, climate science, EPA now.
	And I think COVID obviously got a lot of people asking big questions, and a lot of things are coming out now where we know we were lied to about many things.
	But back to the EPA, the thing that's on people's minds right now is this train crash That happened about a month ago in East Ohio and that train was carrying, as you know, many cars of toxic vinyl chloride monomer to make PVC and the first responders,
	for whatever reason, after the train derailed, they drained all the vinyl chloride out of the train cars, the tankers, and then they set it on fire.
	And when they set it on fire, it released this massive, huge black plume into the sky that just spread for, you know, thousands of square miles, covering tens of thousands of farms.
	And I've had experts on talking about, you know, dioxins.
	Here's the dioxin molecule, you know, chlorine-heavy molecule falling out.
	You're familiar with this.
	Yeah, I know you are.
	This falling out, 2378 TCDD is this particular dioxin, and the EPA refusing to test for it.
	So I wanted to ask you, Dr.
	Lewis, when the EPA is asked about why aren't you testing for dioxins, The answer that they're giving publicly right now is, well, we can't test for dioxins because we don't have a baseline of what the levels were before this accident.
	That's their excuse.
	What do you say to that?
	Well, obviously, they can test for it, whether there's a standard for it or not.
	It doesn't make sense to use that to explain why you don't want to generate the data What's going on here?
	Well, yeah, and especially if there are no additional dioxins happening, then if they test for it now, they would find that it's still low.
	Why wouldn't they want to test for it now and say, yeah, it's still low?
	Absolutely.
	Something fishy is going on.
	But this seems to be kind of the way they've operated for a long time.
	For example, on the issue that you focus on, biosludge, Tell us about sort of how the cover-ups worked, or what were they unwilling to look at?
	As you were trying to raise the alarm, what were they unwilling to look at?
	Well, in what I observed over decades of working for EPA on just these issues, I focused on chemicals that are chlorinated, that get multiplied up the food chain, that are very stable in the environment.
	We're not going to biodegrade.
	That was my focus.
	And so when I looked into what was going on in my situation, all the way up to Washington, to Carol Browner, who was the EPA administrator during most of the time I was doing my research.
	And she was very supportive of it and actually awarded me with this EPA Science Achievement Award for my work in this area.
	Which is EPA's highest award.
	She took me aside at the award ceremony in Washington, D.C. to give me a plaque on that and strangely she walked off, signaled to me to meet me halfway across the stage away from the microphone.
	I'm sorry, it's getting a little background noise.
	Oh, no worries.
	Anyway, when Carol Browner walked me off the stage away from the microphone, She looked at me and she just said, I just want you to know how important your work is in this area.
	And I talked with one of her underlings, Jerry Melillo, who was in charge of these sort of issues for EPA at the time and was very interested in supporting my research.
	And I said to Jerry, why is it that Carol Browner Wasn't doing anything to uncover the problem here, put an end to it.
	And he said that all she would tell him was that she was being overruled at the highest levels.
	Wow.
	And so, you know, when you go over the head of a federal agency, The EPA Administrator, for example, there's only one level over that, that's the President of the United States.
	And shortly after that, Nature came out with an article about my research, and Science Magazine did as well, but Nature pointed it out, or described it as a failure of five presidential administrations.
	Something's going on here that is Yeah, you've really hit upon something critical there.
	So, industry...
	It appears to have driven the response to the train disaster in East Ohio.
	And it was the railroad in this case, Norfolk Southern.
	And lawsuits have already been filed against Norfolk Southern and the EPA and the government of Ohio because it seems like they set all these chemicals on fire in order to eliminate them as quickly as possible so they could resume operating the trains carrying the chemicals on the tracks.
	So instead of doing the correct thing, which would be to contain the spill and then transfer the chemicals to special hazardous materials trucks that could take it to incinerators, very high-temperature incinerators that would destroy the molecules, instead they set it on fire in a ditch, which created a low-temperature fire that actually created more toxic compounds, such as dioxins, as you well know.
	And it seems to have all been done in the name of industry while polluting tens of thousands of farms, small American farmers and Amish farmers as well.
	It's like decision after decision.
	It hurts the people, but it protects industry.
	And from what you just said, Dr.
	Lewis, it seems like that's the way the EPA has been operating for quite some time.
	Your thoughts on that?
	Well, the interesting part of all of this to me Is that my life's work was spent looking at these same compounds, dioxins, you know, halogenated compounds.
	These are the compounds that cause birth defects, that cause cancer.
	These are big issues.
	And so if you have a train spill that is just loaded with those kind of chemicals, I guess if I was a corporate executive and my world rested on being able to get by with spills like that and it's no big deal, you know, not a public danger, I could see where some executives would want to be tempted to go that way.
	Anything like this trail derailment that occurred with a fire stands a reasonable chance that Somebody in the federal government, EPA or otherwise, Department of Agriculture, is likely to start digging into, well, how big of a problem is this?
	What do we do when this happens?
	How do we clean it up?
	And what they will uncover is the fact that all of these chlorinated organic compounds, they're extremely persistent.
	They're going to be around for years.
	Eons of time to come, particularly in complex mixtures, and it's a hornet's nest that you start to disturb it and look into it, there's no limit to where it could go.
	It would potentially uncover all sorts of federal crimes that go back for decades and decades.
	So it seems like they need to keep this quiet in order to maintain the status quo, to protect industry.
	But then the people pay the price.
	And as you know, dioxins in particular, they cause a lot of DNA damage and they lead to accelerated cancers and, as you said, birth defects and children being born with asymmetric faces or missing limbs in some cases, right?
	That's happened before.
	Yes, that's right.
	There was a report that one person in East Ohio now is exhibiting symptoms of chloracne.
	And you know about chloracne.
	Tell us about it.
	What does this mean about what may be coming from these exposures?
	For someone to develop chloracne, visible sores on their face, their arms, wherever they come into contact with this material, is going to stand a good chance of raising this massive secret That's been carried on at the highest levels of our federal government back to when I was working closely with Carol Browner.
	She, for example, was asked by Jerry Melillo, who was in charge of climate change at the time, to report to the president.
	He and I worked closely together and We found that, you know, this was a problem that was going to reach far and wide and end up eventually polluting the air, the water and the soil.
	If you look at this problem as it reaches a global state, then you really begin to understand what's at stake.
	If you go to any farm in the United States, And I live around plenty of them around here and test the soils.
	You're going to find all these same chemicals that spilled out of that train on that train track and caught fire.
	You're going to find them in soil all over the place.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's the thing.
	They're persistent.
	Actually, you know the terminology, but let me just explain this to the audience.
	The EPA calls them PBTs, persistent bioaccumulative toxins.
	And they persist for centuries, and they bioaccumulate up the food chain, so they tend to aggregate, especially in animal products over time, and they're extremely toxic.
	Let me just...
	Before you continue, Dr.
	Lewis...
	I want to read a quote about your work from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	This is on the back cover of your book.
	David Lewis, again, this is from Bobby Kennedy here.
	David Lewis has been a beacon of integrity against the apocalyptic forces of ignorance and greed, endeavoring to divert science from the noble pursuit of truth and pervert it into a tool that supports the most destructive policies of industry and government.
	That's, again, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	Now, did you know, Dr.
	Lewis, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	has publicly stated that he may be running for president?
	I was not aware of that.
	I wish he would.
	He is looking at that.
	He said his wife approves of it, so that's always the most important milestone to overcome.
	Tell me.
	Right.
	So she approves, and I approve.
	I think he should run for president.
	I think he should beat Biden.
	He should become the Democrat nominee, and maybe...
	Bring in this whole discussion about real integrity in science into the debates.
	Even if he doesn't win, he can be part of these debates.
	But things are changing.
	There are people speaking out like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	And so you influenced him.
	And that's something I think that you deserve to be quite proud of, having influenced him and joined him in this effort.
	Yes, he had a very strong and A very knowledgeable understanding of the big picture of all of this.
	If we have developed a mechanism for collecting all of these kinds of chemicals that are chlorinated or they've got fluorine in the molecular structure that makes them non-biodegradable, just perpetually polluting our planet, And being focused on farmlands, that's where most of this material in high concentrations gets dumped and spread out.
	In the course of time, what's in the soil blows up into the air and dust particles spreads around our jet streams to encircle the globe and fall out, have this fallout everywhere globally.
	We're just setting up the whole planet to become I was...
	Something that is mutagenic and...
	Yes.
	Just a toxic stew.
	No.
	Yeah.
	That's the thing.
	People don't realize this is building up.
	It's been building up for the last, let's say, 150 years or less for certain chemicals.
	Let's say it's from the 1950s and 60s for dioxins, roughly.
	But as industry has expanded, the production of these chemicals has expanded.
	None of these chemicals have gone away, or very little, Have gone away.
	They persist.
	And so if humanity continues on this track for even another 50 years, what's the toxic load going to be at that time?
	You can't just keep dumping all the pollution into the soils, into the rivers, into the oceans.
	You can't just keep doing this forever.
	Eventually, and maybe we're at that point now, eventually, Your species starts to die.
	You start to become mutants.
	Are we there or are we starting to see that in your view, Dr.
	Lewis, or do we have a little more time?
	What's your take?
	I don't think we have enough surveillance to even scratch the surface of how big this problem is at the current time.
	People think about levels of carcinogenic and mutagenic chemicals that It's required in order for someone to have a high probability of developing cancer or birth defects.
	I don't look at it that way myself.
	I look at it that this is a problem that's rooted in the cellular level.
	All it takes for a human being to get cancer, colon cancer, lung cancer, skin cancer, whatever, Is for one single molecule of these chemicals like we're talking about now,
	just any chemical that is environmentally stable and is highly carcinogenic or mutagenic, EPA regulates on a basis of whole body exposure.
	That's the fundamental groundwork for EPA, the FDA, and others.
	But that's not how the world works.
	You have one cell in your brain or one cell in your skin that becomes cancerous.
	It starts multiplying.
	And in the course of time, you're staring at death in the face from cancer.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So by design, EPA and the FDA and others have modeled this problem in a way that totally deceives the public on how dangerous this is.
	We've got to look at things at the one cell level.
	If we have an environmental situation where we're putting something on the land and it's getting in the air and water that's carcinogenic, we've got to look at that from, you know, what is the probability that one cell is going to be exposed to this and start multiplying and so it may permeate somebody's body over time with something that started with just one cell.
	A tiny part per billion sample of soil.
	Well, that's the thing.
	I've been reading about dioxins, and I find that even way below parts per billion, we're talking about picograms of exposure load, or in some cases, femtograms.
	But I want to add this, Dr.
	Lewis.
	This is really critical.
	Now, you're one of the few people, you have been to our laboratory.
	Because we filmed you there.
	Remember all the mass spec instruments we had there?
	Yes.
	Well, we've added to that substantially.
	We're now running six mass spec instruments.
	Terrific.
	Yep.
	We've got two ICP-MS instruments, and we've got triple quad mass spec, and then some other single quad LC-MS instruments.
	And...
	We're purchasing now a gas chromatography add-on to test for dioxins.
	So within a few months, as soon as that interface is up and running, we will have a triple-quad tandem MS-MS mass spec with a GC interface, and it can give us a 10 to 1 signal-to-noise ratio of Of 2378 TCDD, two femtograms injected as load on column.
	Two femtograms, we get a signal.
	That's how sensitive that instrument is.
	And you, not everybody understands that, obviously, but you do.
	So I'm happy to be able to share this news with you.
	We're going to be testing for dioxins.
	Yeah, I'd love for you to keep me up to date on what's going on there.
	What I am doing still, even though EPA, for those that are not familiar with the story, Henry Longest, who served in the top ranks of EPA through various administrations,
	who targeted me, he above all people in EPA that wanted to get rid of me because of looking into these problems was just I'm obsessed with it, but the thing that became apparent of what I did,
	and at my own expense, since EPA was not funding my research anymore, is to get out and take soil samples and have them analyzed, which I paid the University of Georgia to do for me, have them analyzed for yttrium, And two or three other rare earths.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Because what I found in my research at EPA is that all biosolid samples contain a handful of rare earths that aren't found in nature.
	So it's a good way for tracking how big this problem is.
	Huh.
	You're kidding me.
	See, we can do that with ICP-MS. We'd be happy to help you out on that.
	We ought to work together on that.
	Absolutely.
	We'd be happy to run those for you at no cost.
	And you just need to tell us the elements that you're looking for.
	And we can even do like a semi-quant mode that scans almost the entire table of elements, you know, except the very low range.
	We can see what those are, get a snapshot.
	But I'd like to know what other elements, because you're the one who told me that there was an over-the-counter medication that was always found in biosolids as well.
	Yeah, Benadryl.
	Benadryl, yeah.
	Antihistamine.
	Yeah.
	But we don't have a way to check for Benadryl.
	Like, we don't have a method for Benadryl, but we could look for, you know, yttrium or the other elements for sure.
	Yeah, I actually did a...
	Interesting experiment.
	I don't have an office anymore at EPA or University of Georgia, but I had the results clear as can be that where I tracked yttrium, for example, I focused on an area in Georgia that I actually did science fair projects at when I was in high school and have still been going back occasionally to revisit some of the Things I got started there I still check on but
	what I found was that there was an area where a very unusual plant was growing and I started collaborating with Jimmy Carter on it.
	I ran into him when he was inaugurated.
	A girl I was dating at the time had been invited to his inaugural ball and I took her to the ball and met him then and We got to chat a little bit and he took a great interest in my research in this area and has kept up with it until recently and is so unfortunate about with cancer now.
	But what I found in a field study is that plants had developed, native plants in that area, had developed a way to resist The impact of these biosolids that were being applied in many, many acres around these pristine creeks that I was studying back from high school days.
	When I went out there sampling, what I found is that the area where these chemicals were getting disturbed in the soil and moving down into the creek and beyond, that you could track all of that and understand The ecology of it,
	the big picture of it, this could be turned into an incredible environmental tool for understanding how much damage has been done to the environment for these biosolids-related chemicals.
	Well, that's the question of our time.
	I have a feeling we are way past the tipping point of being able to really reproduce as a species in a healthy, sustainable way.
	I mean, there's so much mutagenic damage that is being done right now that will persist for generations.
	I think we're in real trouble right now.
	A lot of the human species is in real trouble.
	And you sounded the alarm as early as anyone on this.
	And now, as I understand it, you're working on another book to continue to tell this story.
	Can you, without giving away too much, tell us about this second book, what you have coming, and when can we expect this book to hit the shelves?
	Well, thank you for asking.
	I am pretty consumed at the moment with Writing a book that documents at least my own personal experiences was something that developed a number of years ago within an administration or two back that took root where there is interest in the work that I began with Jimmy Carter to
	look at the impact of Areas where sewage sludge has been spread and cows are dying and humans are claiming to be affected.
	And this field site that I studied back in high school, I went back to and began sampling in the creek area where I had noticed that a plant that was very common back in my high school days in the 1960s, I had started to do a weird thing.
	It was absolutely bizarre.
	It's a common plant found in marshes that grows in the water during certain periods of time and out of the water.
	And it began to do this total Remake of the way the stems to the flowers of this plant, which had these yellow star grass, and that's what the plants call star grass, these yellow star grass blooms at the top of maybe a six or eight inch thin stem with some leaves in it.
	The weird thing it was starting to do was to grow in a way that when that flower pod was forming, it would go underwater.
	But only in these areas where the biosolids, with all those toxic chemicals, were washing down into that part of the creek.
	You go above that part of the creek that was not being polluted with these biosolids-related chemicals, the universe of toxic chemicals, and the plants would be perfectly helpful, healthy, blooming and reproducing with seed pods.
	So I've dug some of these up and In fact, to this day, I still go regularly down to the creek on our own property where I reproduced that environment and transplanted some of these plants.
	And to this day, they're still doing that.
	Unfortunately, I don't have the resources that it would take to understand what's happening here.
	All I have is just a glimpse Of how amazingly important this is biologically.
	If you can just imagine a plant that's getting hit by every pollutant you can imagine, has figured out a way to survive this, we should be really looking at this at the cellular level and figuring out ways we can transfer this ability to other plants.
	Why we still have plants on Earth?
	Exactly.
	Our very survival may depend on understanding what's going on there.
	And yet, in order for any government funding to be directed towards that, they would first have to admit that there is pollution, right?
	And they don't even want to admit that.
	And so we end up with a government that is telling us that there's nothing to worry about.
	It's all okay.
	And, you know, we do have a Clean Water Act, but we don't have a Clean Soils Act.
	You're the one who told me that years ago.
	We don't have a Clean Soils Act, so they take all the pollution.
	They can't dump it in the river, so they dump it in the dirt by the river.
	And then the rain washes it into the river.
	And it's, you know, we're building a toxic stew that is incompatible with the sustainability of human life, period.
	Yeah.
	Well, the one thing that I wish everyone could take home and internalize is the fact that cancer, which we worry about with these types of chemicals, for example, all it takes is for us to breathe one microscopic particle of biosolids,
	treated sewage solids is what it is, just one molecule of that Going into our lungs as we breathe.
	All it takes is one particle of biosolids to come to rest against one cell in a person's lungs.
	And there it lodges.
	It gets stuck there and rests until that one cell becomes mutated and after that becomes cancerous and you've got lung cancer.
	So, You have to look at the planet Earth in that way.
	Yeah, and it's, you know, I'm a food scientist and nutrition focus, and what I understand too is that if a person has a healthy diet and healthy foods, they may be able to handle, you know, their body's immune system will deal with that one cancerous cell or even a thousand cancerous cells that are isolated.
	But when a person is living on junk food and processed food and they're exposed, To all these toxic chemicals, and they're immunosuppressed from a variety of vectors, you know, environmental, dietary, stress, lack of sleep, all these things, then their body can't handle it.
	So at that point, the toxicity of the exposure gets amplified by their lack of self-healing capability.
	And I think that's what we're looking at right now.
	People are getting cancers like never before.
	More people are dying than ever before.
	We're seeing entire countries like Japan is having a demographic collapse.
	The U.K. is having a demographic collapse.
	The U.S. is at a stalemate demographically right now.
	If it wasn't for all the new migrants coming in, the U.S. would be collapsing in terms of its population and so on.
	We're looking at the tipping point of a die-off globally.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Dr.
	Lewis, in wrapping this up, there was something you told me off camera.
	I don't know if that's anything that you're allowed to share, but I want to give you the opportunity.
	You were talking about some interesting things that had happened to you.
	Is that something that's going to be in your book, or is that something that you can mention publicly?
	I just want to be respectful of the privacy of it.
	Well, thanks for that.
	I'm Wide open to talk about any of that you might be interested in.
	Tell us how you were approached by people during the Trump administration and then what happened from there, if you would.
	And again, I mean, I'm not probing.
	You can feel free to keep private whatever you want.
	I just thought you might want to talk about it.
	Sure, I appreciate the opportunity.
	My current book that I'm working on...
	The working title is From Latvia with Love.
	This experience that much of my book deals with began where a woman scientist in Latvia showed up in Watkinsville, Georgia, of all places,
	a little town in North Georgia, and I was introduced by a mutual friend of ours to this woman who was very enthusiastic about my research and invited me to come to Russia to basically do what EPA is not allowing me to do in the United States, that is do research on these problems.
	And it turned out that that was only the first of a series of individuals from foreign countries that It showed up when EPA was not supporting my work and they wanted to support my work, which to me is very disturbing.
	It probably wouldn't be to most anyone else, but what it tells me, knowing how these kinds of problems, if we don't deal with land application, sewage sludge, or let's just say soil pollution and water pollution and air pollution,
	but particularly soil pollution, If we don't deal with that, then it can be weaponized to where if the EPA says, if they wash their hands of this, says, oh, these things are not carcinogenic enough to worry about, they're not mutagenic enough to worry about, we're not going to regulate them.
	That just opens the door to foreign adversaries to come in and weaponize these weaknesses by promoting them and just Making it a whole-scale free-for-all where our adversaries from China to Russia can come in and ruin our soil if they want to.
	But isn't that interesting, though, that you were invited essentially to go to Russia to do the research?
	Why would...
	Is Russia trying to prevent pollution of their soils so that they have a future and they can have families and children and food that won't kill them?
	Or was there some other purpose, like a weaponization vector?
	Any idea?
	Yeah, well, that is my summation of this, my own personal belief.
	Is that this is creating an opportunity that countries like Russia, people like Putin, Vladimir Putin, is so tempting they can't turn it down.
	If the United States government is going to say, it's not a problem to put toxic chemicals in sewage sludge and spread it out and use it as a fertilizer on the places where we grow all our crops, they'll come in and Put things in our sewage sludge that will,
	since it's not, nothing's tested for it in the way of these really dangerous chemicals, and the things Russia would add would not be tested for anyway because we don't even know what those are.
	Yeah, but this is something you said to me years ago for the Biosludge documentary.
	And by the way, I want to mention it could be communist China as well, right?
	But you said that any kind of bioterrorist, they could simply dump chemicals into the sewer and it would go into the Biosludge processing facility, which exists in every city in America.
	And then from there, it is trucked out and dumped on the farms.
	And in some cases dumped on, you know, School property, government property, parks, you know, but a lot of it or most of it goes on the farms.
	You told me that and that stuck in my mind and it could be biological terrorism, it could be chemical terrorism, it could be unknown agents like you're talking about.
	So what you're saying right now is really echoing what you said before that A foreign adversary could just show up in America, order up a bunch of chemicals, dump them into the sewage system, and then our cities distribute it onto the farms.
	That's right.
	That's crazy.
	It really is.
	It's as crazy as it gets.
	And so what I did most lately was just find two or three chemicals that, like yttrium, that You can test for, and you find yttrium in your soil at any appreciable level.
	That means you've got sewage sludge dumped on it.
	So we need to get to mapping of all of our farmlands and other lands, school playgrounds, public parks, major creeks and rivers that are not being monitored for any of these chemicals, and just go around and look at the yttrium levels and see how badly We've polluted the Earth's soil at this point.
	Would you let me know what elements?
	Is it more than atrium?
	Is it a couple others as well?
	Or is it just that one?
	Atrium is the one that I I chose to use, but there are a couple of others.
	They're also universal.
	After we finish this, if you would, let me know what those are.
	I mean, we can talk after this and see how we can collaborate on this because I would love...
	ICP-MS... Is not only obviously very good at seeing these elements, but ICP-MS is very, very accurate with a very small margin of error, as you know.
	It's a much more accurate mass spec assessment.
	And we can see subparts per billion.
	On these kinds of elements, especially if we get some external standards of these, then we might be able to hit a few hundred parts per trillion limit of detection.
	So let's talk about that off-camera as we wrap this up.
	But is there anything else that you want to offer here in this interview today?
	Well, yeah, I would like to say that I have always worked closely with members of Congress that have environmental interests.
	The people they represent have environmental concerns.
	I had hoped that Joe Biden, given his background, would take an interest in this problem.
	So I corresponded with his staff in the Atlanta area back when he was campaigning.
	He had invited His staff had invited me to come have lunch with him one day, which is what happens when you donate the minimum of $10,000 to a campaign, you know.
	It's automatic.
	So it was the way I got my foot in the door just to talk about these problems and urge him to get a grasp of how big these problems are and do something about it, unlike his previous five or so predecessors as president.
	And it's His staff arranged a couple of meetings and canceled on him and then came back to me and asked me to donate additional money to his campaign.
	That's what every congressman's campaign staff does for a living.
	So none of this was unusual.
	It just struck me odd when I got an immediate response to my request For him to follow up on his breakfasts that I'd been invited to originally.
	And the message was simply, no, you haven't donated enough money.
	And it just drove it home to me.
	Really, has it gone that far?
	Well, yes, of course it has.
	And you'll never have enough money to compete with industry's money.
	Obviously, none of us will as individuals.
	And it's politics.
	I mean, your book is called Science for Sale.
	Maybe your next book should be called America for Sale because that's what you were experiencing.
	Everything is for sale.
	Politics is for sale.
	Policy is for sale.
	And you and I don't have deep enough pockets to ever influence policy in any kind of significant way, sadly.
	Unfortunately.
	That's where we are.
	Well, Dr. Lewis, I just want to say thank you for your contributions to this debate, to this sound of the alarm, what you're trying to do for humanity.
	I mean, Biden's people, if they had any idea, they should have given you $10,000 and I Like, join, you know, work for us.
	Help sound the alarm.
	I mean, here you are, Dr.
	Lewis, trying to literally save the world or the future of our world from these chemical contaminants, and all they can say is, like, give us more money?
	Are you kidding me?
	That just seems completely insane to me.
	But we're doing the best we can.
	We'll have you back on, Dr.
	Lewis, when your next book is available.
	And in the meantime, stand by.
	I want to make sure you've got my mobile number so you can reach me.
	And let's talk about these elemental markers for Biosludge and see what we can do together on that front.
	Sounds good.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	It's always an honor to speak with you.
	Thank you.
	Same here.
	Absolutely.
	Quite an honor just to get to talk to the public once in a while.
	Yeah, well, we've got to make that happen more often.
	You can't stay in your den working on your book 24-7, right?
	You've got to get out and talk to the world that you're trying to save.
	Anyway, folks, the book, again, is Science for Sale, Dr.
	David Lewis, and that's L-E-W-I-S if you're looking for...
	The author name, L-E-W-I-S, Dr.
	David Lewis, Ph.D., former EPA scientist, EPA whistleblower, and is also featured prominently in the film that I produced several years ago called Biosludged, which you can find at biosludged.com if you want to see.
	We actually filmed Dr.
	David Lewis in our mass spec lab for that documentary, so that's some interesting history there.
	Thank you, Dr.
	Lewis, and please stand by so we can chat after this.
	But again, thank you for joining me today.
	It's been a pleasure.
	It's been an honor.
	Thank you.
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