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May 13, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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John Moore interview: Leftist controllers want Trump reinstated so they can launch nationwide commun
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Their goal is to destroy the country and to split this country with violent protests, rioting, civil disorder.
What better way than to put President Trump in the Oval Office and have Joe Biden go into retirement or whatever the man's going to do with whatever's left of his life.
This is Brighteon Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
And joining us again by popular request is John Moore, the Liberty Man.
His website is thelibertyman.com.
Last time we had him on, we talked about the Ozarks.
We talked about ocean level changes, earth changes, the 10th planet.
We're going to cover a lot of other topics today in other areas.
But I just want to welcome you back, John.
Thank you for coming back on to join me.
You've got a lot to share.
Mike, thank you.
It's good to be with you as always.
It's 95 degrees and high humidity here in South Central Missouri.
How about where you are?
Yeah, it's about the same but a little bit hotter in rural Texas.
I just want to mention to people, you've got like a green screen effect going on with your camera and your headset is doing interesting effects of your background coming through from time to time.
Well, if there's a way to make that go away, I will.
No, no, it's no problem.
I just want to tell people we're not adding something to this.
It's just...
Well, I got the Golden Gate Bridge behind me there.
I'm obviously not in San Francisco.
Yeah, no, it's perfect.
I'm in South Central Missouri.
All right, so let's talk about, you know, we left off last time talking about the Ozarks, and since then I've heard so many people talk about the Ozarks for some reason.
A lot of people are looking at the Ozark area, the Ozarks as a place for a retreat, you know, for preparedness and so on.
But people are kind of freaking out everywhere about preparedness, not even about a tenth planet, but just, you know, societal collapse, the collapse of the rule of law, whatever, whatever.
What do you think we're most likely to be facing?
Well, since that last show we did, Mike, I didn't keep track, but dozens of people reached out to me by telephone, by email.
Mostly women, by the way.
I would say three-fourths women.
And they're concerned.
They want to be safe.
They want their families to be safe.
And our discussions around the Ozarks centered on safety and the safety offered by the Arkansas-Missouri Ozarks.
It might be good to begin with exactly what is the Ozark Plateau, which is a geographical area.
It's Missouri, south of the Missouri River, excluding the extreme southeast corner we call the Boot Hill, which is very flat and they grow rice there.
Arkansas, north of Little Rock, About the top third of Arkansas.
The extreme northeast corner of Oklahoma.
The extreme southeast corner of Kansas.
I don't particularly like Wikipedia, but they actually did a pretty good job showing a map and describing the Ozark Plateau.
It's known among the geologists to be one of the oldest, if not the oldest, mountain range on the planet.
We don't have terribly high mountains, but we got mountains.
We've got...
More water than we know what to do with.
The Missouri side of the Ozarks has more bridges than any state in the entire country.
We've got so many creeks and rivers.
Arkansas, pretty much the same way.
Hundreds of creeks and rivers.
So we have plenty of water.
We have a relatively mild winter.
A very long growing season.
Some of the worst soil you can attempt to grow crops on anywhere because of the high clay content in most parts of the Ozarks.
But with raised bed gardens and modern gardening methods, people can grow all the fruits and vegetables they want.
Most of the Ozarks is not suitable for row crops such as corn, wheat, soybeans, although you do see some of that.
But let's talk about some of the things the Navy has pointed out to the veterans, the Navy veterans.
First of all, low population density.
Once you get east of the Mississippi, no matter where you are, you've got a relatively high population density.
On our side of the Mississippi, it's relatively low population density.
The largest city in the Arkansas, Missouri, Ozarks is Springfield, Missouri population, about a quarter million.
Most of the cities and towns in the Ozarks are 1,000, 2,000, maybe 5,000 people.
A really good-sized city in the Ozarks might be 30,000 or 40,000 people, which is still relatively small.
The size of this area is, if you're back east, is maybe hard to comprehend for a lot of people.
One county in Missouri, Texas County, is larger than the state of Rhode Island.
That's just one county.
We have tens of thousands of square miles.
A lot of national forests.
That started during the Franklin Roosevelt administration, of course.
The natives who live here, including myself as a native, my family roots, my mom's side, go back here before the Civil War.
Mostly Caucasian.
The majority of the Native Americans, you can't tell them apart from another Irishman.
At least I can't.
My friend Tim Spencer, my webmaster, he's Native American.
Heavily involved in Native American politics for years until they got tired of it.
But he just looks like another Irishman to me.
So we have a lot going for us.
The altitude above sea level, the low population density, the relatively short winters, the long growing season, and for people that have been here all their lives, they know that Hunting and fishing is God's gift to mankind.
It's pretty common for 8-year-old, 9-year-old, 10-year-old boys and girls to get their first deer between 8 and 10 years old.
And we have, I think, four or five deer seasons.
There's the bow season.
There's black potter season.
There's youth season.
There's a regular gun season.
And sometimes there's a special doe season just to hunt does.
And a lot of hunting for other critters that are out there and fishing, of course.
It seems to be also, you know, just culturally, is there a strong Christian tradition in the Ozarks?
Oh yes, absolutely.
Mostly Christian, most of the time.
You're right.
And conservative Christian populations here.
Assembly of God, several different kinds of Baptists.
You see a Catholic Church occasionally in the bigger towns, and occasionally a Presbyterian, occasionally a Lutheran.
But in most of the Ozarks, it's the Baptist and Assembly of God, and of course the Pentecostal.
Now, I want to contrast everything you just said to the Western states that are now in extreme drought.
It's not just the Western states, it's also the Northwestern region of the continental United States.
And we see what you might call, you know, refugees almost, People fleeing those areas.
I know people moving out of Tucson, moving out of Phoenix, moving out of LA, because they've come to the realization that those states, at least in their view, are absolutely not sustainable for a variety of reasons, not just water and food, but the lawlessness, especially in the blue states, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles.
People living there who have their thinking caps on are saying, this is going to be Mad Max here in a few years if the collapse continues.
So they're getting out.
Number one, do you agree with that assessment?
And if so, what would that mean about the future geographic or the population density of the United States as a whole?
Well, sir...
The drought is pretty much everything west of the I-35 corridor which goes from the Mexican border to the Canadian border.
It's a vast area.
It's basically half the lower 48 close to it.
Some of the areas you mentioned such as Arizona Before we had air conditioning, almost nobody lived in what would be considered the hot parts of Arizona.
That's just the last 70 years or so that air conditioning has made it a civilized place to live, shall we say.
And We have other issues out there concerning water where there's been intentional, possibly criminal releases of water from these reservoirs that the farmers need for their crops out in California, Oregon, Washington State.
The blue states out there, it's easy to show that tens of thousands of people are leaving California, Oregon, Washington, but what's important is look at who's leaving.
Who's leaving are the educated, productive people in those states, the self-employed business owners of those states.
It's easy to point out that men and women who are in the firearms industry, for example, they're leaving the unfriendly states, gun rights states, and going towards gun-friendly states.
So there's a lot of taxation.
Oh my goodness.
When people hear what I pay for a gallon of gasoline here in Missouri, they're very jealous compared to California, Washington, Oregon.
Socialism is expensive, Mike.
Socialism is very expensive.
And we don't have very much or any at all socialism in the red states, thank goodness.
So there's lots of reasons, economic reasons.
Cultural reasons.
We have workout gyms that people buy memberships to here in Missouri, but we don't have men going into the girls' locker room in these gymnasiums.
If a man was going to go into the women's locker room at a swimming pool, he would be met with immediate violence from the fathers, the husbands, the boyfriends of the men who will protect the women and the girls.
And they weren't going to wait for the police.
And that's most of the Midwest, not just where I live in South Central Missouri.
That's most of the Midwest.
As you're pointing out this contrast, which is really fascinating, but we see that the socialist left-wing states are continuing to accelerate their plunge into really communism.
So it seems like there's an accelerating bifurcation of the regions of the United States.
Do you think that the United States of America as a whole holds together for much longer?
How do we define holds together?
We're already split a lot along cultural lines, and that's all by design, of course.
The opposition, which I like to call, Mike, the socialist, communist, democrats, Muslims, if they...
Continue what they did in November of 2020 in terms of winning major elections.
U.S. House, U.S. Senate, presidency.
You mean stealing major elections?
Yes, sir.
Unless that's challenged and defeated.
They will win every major election from now on, unless that's challenged and defeated with the voting machines, the mail-in ballots, and so forth.
I think there will be a successful challenge in enough states that the voting machines will go away, the mail-in ballots will go away.
And I think our opposition understands that.
So they got basically, well, about 15 months before the next elections.
If the next elections in November 2022 happen and they're free and fair, as they should be, they're finished.
They will no longer control the House.
They will no longer control the Senate.
The president, assuming Biden is still in office, will be impotent and unable to do anything that's against the Constitution, against the people.
That's 15 months away.
It seems like they can just release another variant.
I've interviewed many scientists and researchers who talk about Fauci having other bioweapons in the freezer, ready to go.
Couldn't they just release, right about now or soon, the next variant to then lock down the whole country, Just in time for the midterm elections and then have more vote by mail fraud again.
You know, I mean, they did it once.
Why not again?
You know, our listeners are very wise and they're very alert to what's going on.
They, just like you and just like I, they've heard the pronouncements of a nationwide lockdown coming out of the White House either today, next week, the week after.
That's no secret to our listeners.
It may be to the general public, but not to our listeners.
The one report I got from my friend Steve Bennoon, who's a former CIA field agent, he says that the word he's getting was that the lockdown would include supermarkets being open two days a week.
If they want to have violent pushback, which I think is their real goal, Then try closing the supermarkets five days and have them open only two days a week.
If you want to have violent pushback, that would do it really quick.
They can't stock enough food in two days to meet the demand.
They simply can't.
No.
What else are your sources telling you about the nature of this seemingly imminent lockdown?
Mike, we need to look at what the goal is.
The goal is not the lockdown.
That's just a method to get to the goal.
The goal is nationwide rioting, looting, chaos, violence in the streets.
That's the goal.
And the powers of being, something I'll mention, some of your listeners should be on the lookout for.
I've noticed around my hometown, St.
Louis, Missouri, on the interstate highway system, which surrounds most major cities these days, there's what we call cloverleafs, where the one highway merges with another.
And those cloverleafs are generally just mowed lawn, mowed grass, and not necessarily a flat area that could be used for something.
Typically, it's a gradual slope from one highway to the other.
What I've noticed in St.
Louis is several of these cloverleafs.
The gradual slope and the unusable space is being made into usable space, being filled with rock and dirt to provide nice flat spots that could be used if they did have checkpoints.
They would need space for people to have a place to work, go on their lunch break, use the restroom, and so forth.
Maybe incarcerate people if they need to incarcerate temporarily at a checkpoint.
Those places are being built with no public explanation I'm aware of.
It's a lot of money being spent that doesn't need to be spent unless they plan on using those spots in those chloroleafs.
And I'm going to be asking all your listeners right now, Mike, to pay attention to...
The cloverleaf intersections in major metropolitan areas, not in areas that are remote, away from population centers.
But if you go past one, obviously pay attention.
But more carefully pay attention to the cloverleaf interstate intersections in major populated areas.
And if you see they're being built up with rock and dirt to make nice flat spots for people to work and have little portable buildings or tents, Get photographs of those.
Give them to Mike.
Give them to me.
Because that's important.
That's something we need to be aware of and pay attention to.
Don't you think, Mike?
Well, absolutely.
And that's great advice.
And I'm being told from other sources that there is a plan for highway checkpoints for vaccine papers and that the checkpoints are going to be augmented by drones.
So if you try to run from the checkpoint, they're going to have a police drone just chase you down.
And then they're going to take you into a COVID camp.
Now, the CDC put out a document last year that's just getting a lot of attention this week that calls for what they call green zones, which are involuntary internment camps.
And the CDC document says they're going to meet minimum humanitarian standards.
Oh, boy.
Big relief.
And they're going to provide soap and toilet paper so each prisoner can clean their own cell.
And these are going to be erected all across the country and actually using existing buildings, such as schools, for example, to make a COVID internment camp.
I've seen the document, Mark.
That was published a year ago this month.
That's right.
And that document, we talked about one earlier, I don't consider that important, but this document I do consider important because of who issued it, first of all, the Center for Disease Creation, as I like to call them.
It easily could go that way.
The communists, the socialist communists, Democrats, Muslims, they've been working since 1917.
It was at 104 years to achieve their goal of defeating the United States of America.
And they're real close.
They can see the prize within their grasp.
And they also know if Donald Trump's back in office and I've been around.
My first presidential election that I observed as a young man was 1956.
And I've seen what former presidents do ever since.
They don't give speeches filled up by tens of thousands of people.
Ex-presidents don't do that.
But Donald Trump is doing it.
He's acting like a candidate, not like a former president.
Former presidents give speeches to small groups, they write books, and they enjoy their grandchildren.
Not this guy.
He's acting like a man who's about to run for president, quite frankly.
So the powers that be must be shaking in their boots, because they know that if he runs, and it's a free and fair election, of course he's going to be re-elected.
Of course he's going to continue.
And Donald Trump now knows the mistakes he made those first four years.
He focused a lot on the federal judiciary appointing several hundred conservative Christian judges.
That was a really good thing.
He relied too heavily, however, on people that he now knows were deep state.
He relied too heavily on four-star, three-star generals, with the exception of General Flynn, that he should not have relied on.
And so he understands all the mistakes.
I don't know what information he was getting about the coronavirus when it first came out.
This is obvious to me and I'm sure to you and most of our listeners.
He made some huge mistakes when it came to the coronavirus.
And hopefully he understands that.
And I got a glimmer of hope when, at a recent rally, he was making fun of people wearing masks.
That's a glimmer of hope, that he understands the real deal now, as opposed to what he thought was going on when he was still president, which was a flim-flam.
Go ahead, Mike.
I'm sorry, but as we're recording this, Mike Lindell is hosting his cyber symposium, and in fact, Brighteon.tv has been broadcasting that, so I haven't had a chance to watch it, but from what I've heard, there are some real bombshells being dropped there from people like Colonel Phil Waldron and others that provide very convincing evidence that the election was rigged and hacked in swing states.
Now, just as a backdrop, my question to you is, do you give any credence to the The theory or the claim that Trump could possibly be reinstated.
Specifically, Mike Lindell is saying that he believes the Supreme Court could hear this evidence that he's presenting and that the Supreme Court would have no choice, he says, but to reinstate President Trump because the election was rigged.
What do you think of all that?
Well, first of all, it's not just Mike Lindell.
It's Sidney Powell...
There's no attorney that's practiced law who's won more cases in front of the Supreme Court than Sidney Powell.
I spent an hour with this woman at a conference that you were supposed to be at, Mike, and didn't make it in Dallas.
I spent an hour one-on-one with this woman, and I've dealt with lawyers professionally since 1972, hundreds and hundreds of lawyers.
This woman is the most brilliant human being I've ever met, quite frankly.
So she's saying it.
And as Steve Bannon is saying, these are all three individuals, not only bright and successful in their chosen careers, they're all on a first-name basis with the former president of the United States.
These are people to be taken seriously.
It's not like some nameless journalist in a Wall Street Journal writing an op-ed or something of that nature.
These are people in the know.
Now, here's how this could happen, and for the benefit of your listeners, I became a paralegal in 1972.
I spent most of my life as a homicide detective, paralegal, preparing both civil and criminal cases for trial, including the United States of America versus the American Optometric Association, which is now taught in law school, as the classic antitrust lawsuit.
I was part of the defense team.
So here's how this would go down.
First of all, we need a number of states, enough states to show election fraud, enough states to show that the electoral college vote was inappropriate and wrong and needs to be changed.
At that point, somebody like Sidney Powell or probably a team of attorneys would file a lawsuit.
Original jurisdiction is in the Supreme Court, no lower courts.
Original jurisdiction is in the Supreme Court, which is unusual in itself.
The lawsuit would demand that Supreme Court review the evidence that the election was stolen, that the Electoral College was bogus in their votes.
And here's where it gets better.
Four or five Supreme Court justices will vote As they're conscious and their oath of office dictates the right wing in favor of President Trump, another four or five will vote the way they're told to vote because they're a captive audience of the Socialists, Communists, Democrats, Muslims, including the Chief Justice, which I believe would be a 9-0 vote in favor of President Trump being reinstated.
Now, look at President Trump and the position he's in.
Wait, wait, explain.
I'm sorry, explain that, please.
Why would the leftist justices vote in favor of St.
Trump?
They want chaos and rioting in the streets.
Okay.
That's why.
I should have mentioned that.
It's a big point here.
Thank you, sir.
No, their goal is to destroy the country.
And to split this country with violent protests, rioting, civil disorder, what better way than to put President Trump in the Oval Office and have Joe Biden go into retirement or whatever the man's going to do with whatever's left of his life?
But it does seem like Biden's already gone into retirement in his own mind.
I mean, he's a placeholder.
It seems like even those who put him in there know that he's only a temporary actor of sorts.
Well, of course.
I mean, he's an empty suit attempting to do what he's told to do with some limited success.
That's all a man is.
He's an empty suit doing what he's told to do.
An actor.
Well, I don't mean to keep interrupting, but I wanted to politely hand the baton back to you to continue your point about then the nation would erupt into chaos and violence.
It will.
The news media will report the civil disorder as being a spontaneous outburst of people emotional over what happened.
No, no, no.
It will be men and women who have been recruited, trained, paid for, equipped by George Soros and his minions.
That's who's going to riot.
And they'll be joined by people who are, in fact, emotional about what's going on.
But the initial onslaught will be by Paid, professional protesters.
That's the original onslaught.
Now, I started to mention a moment ago, the position President Trump is in, he knows that if he's not put back in office, we lose the republic.
He knows that innocent people will die.
He knows that if he's put back in office, we will save the republic and innocent people will die.
No matter what the man does or does not do, innocent people are going to die.
On one hand, he has a possibility of saving the republic.
On the other, if he's not put back in office and the Dominion voting machines and the mail-in ballots are allowed to stand, our republic is finished.
It's done.
There will never be a free and fair election ever again in this country at the national level and in many state levels.
Many states like mine will be free and fair elections in the state of Missouri.
But in the blue states, they have a winning combination, not only for U.S. congressmen, U.S. senators, but the governor, all statewide offices, and any city or county office that they choose.
Because they got a recipe that can't be beat with Dominion voting machines and mail-in ballots.
It can't be beat, Mike.
It has to be corrected, and the powers that be know it.
Now, in Arizona, we had attendees from 16 states We're good to go.
I'm still astonished, having learned over these last few months that ballots don't have unique IDs on them and they can simply be rerun, fed into the machines over and over and over again.
How could that possibly be considered a secure election?
I mean, come on.
I mean, they serialized dollar bills?
Right.
In the modern age, the technology to do that is off the shelf.
It's off the shelf technology.
But there's...
In several states, we've had mail-in ballots, tens of thousands of mail-in ballots that were never mailed, because if a mail-in ballot is mailed, it has to be folded first.
How much more blatant can it be when you're auditing ballots and you've got a stack of boxes, more appropriately, tens of thousands of mail-in ballots that were never mailed?
How much more obvious can it be, Mike?
It can't be more obvious.
So, but then why, in Maricopa County, we're all waiting patiently for the results, and I know that the Democrats are playing dirty tricks, and the DOJ is even trying to interfere, and no doubt behind the scenes, people are being death-threaded, right?
Yeah, because this is going to expose the whole thing.
Go ahead.
Well, it was a county clerk who had her office invaded while she was out of the office.
You know, that's unacceptable.
That is completely unacceptable.
We've got local and county and state officials that are desperate to conceal their crimes and possibly being paid to cover up other people's crimes.
That's where we are.
The rest of the world is watching with horror, I would think, if they would like to duplicate the republic we've got here.
At one time, we had a republic that people around the world wanted to emulate.
In fact, the Constitution written by Ho Chi Minh was very similar to our Constitution, believe it or not.
He loved the United States.
He thought we would help him.
And when we didn't, he turned to the communists for help.
But that's water under the bridge, as we say.
So what we've got here, Mike, needs to be we have no choice.
The men and women involved in auditing these states that are going to conduct election audits I know they're smart.
They're tough people.
They're going to do what they need to do despite what the Department of Justice threatens, despite what any other entity threatens.
They're going to proceed with these audits, and they don't have much time.
We're into, what, this is the seventh month of the Biden administration, and...
But it seems like they've created...
The Republic is in grave danger.
The Republic is at risk of losing the Republic.
No matter what we do, they've created a situation where it's going to result in chaos.
I mean, if we do nothing, and if we don't have honest recounts and forensic analysis, then we all, let's say, all unvaccinated Americans get designated, quote, high-risk individuals by the CDC, thrown into COVID death camps, and you know what happens there.
Or if Trump gets reinstated, then the left is going to launch Mass riots and chaos and destruction nationwide, called peaceful protesting, by the way.
It's going to make January 6th look like a walk in the park.
But it seems like we're headed for chaos no matter what.
The Ferguson riots, you know, Ferguson is a suburb of St.
Louis, my hometown.
I had three reporters, both sets of riots, reporting on my show live what they were seeing, what they were observing, including my friend Sam Andrews, who was the field commander of the Oath Keepers Protecting Lives and Property in Ferguson.
And during the day...
He interviewed some of the protesters and they showed him the checks where they were being paid.
One protester stated how he was trained to fabricate Molotov cocktails, incendiary devices, which they were using there by the way.
Another friend of mine, a different reporter, he had Two of the protesters on his porch mid-afternoon, and they were handing out copies of the communist newspaper.
One was from San Francisco, I forget where the other one was from, but they weren't.
In fact, the local newspaper, St.
Louis Post-Dispatch, they published the home addresses of all the people who were arrested.
And about one or two percent were even from the state of Missouri.
The rest were all from out-of-state.
And these same people, they haven't gone away.
These same people that were recruited, trained, equipped, and paid for by George Soros, they haven't gone away.
They're waiting for the signal to get active again and act crazy, pretend to act crazy, and destroy property and threaten human life.
And when you're pointing a laser at the eyes of a human being, You may as well.
It's deadly force, in my opinion.
It is deadly force.
And Soros has done this.
Right.
If somebody was to point one of those lasers at me, I'd put them down.
There's no way.
And I think I would rather argue in front of a judge and a jury why I use deadly force against a laser, against my eyeballs, than be blind the rest of my life.
I believe most juries would agree that you have a right to use deadly force to stop somebody from blinding you the rest of your life.
And that's a reasonable reaction.
And that's what the police should do.
The police nationwide have shown great restraint.
If you throw a rock the size of a baseball at somebody's head, Mike, you're trying to kill them.
A water bottle, it's frozen.
A water bottle, it's frozen, thrown at somebody's head.
You're trying to kill them.
Plain and simple.
Of course you are.
And to not use deadly force in response, which the police could and should have done, in my opinion, shows great restraint on their part to not use deadly force to counter deadly force.
So that's what's coming, Mike.
And, you know, we've got four and a half months left of this year.
This year will be over in a flash.
We're going to see things move forward.
Now, Mike Lindell's telethon, he's offering a $5 million reward to anybody that can prove his evidence is not correct, is not real.
That's serious money, and most people would love to have $5 million.
I wouldn't mind it at all.
But I'm not going to try to prove that his evidence is not based in reality.
There's no way, because I know I'm going to lose.
There's two parts to this evidence.
I think Mike Lindell is focusing a lot on the evidence that there was computer fraud involved involving China.
I don't know how much he's focusing on the on the ground evidence of the mail and ballots that weren't mailed, the Dominion voting machines at the local level and so forth.
I hope he's focusing on both sufficiently to make his case.
And like you, Mike, I haven't yet seen I have not seen the telethon.
I understand it was hacked and shut down for a short period of time before they got it back up online.
But Mike Lindell, if he's nothing else, he knows how to get people's attention, doesn't he, sir?
Well, he sure does.
And he's proven that the American spirit is still alive and well, especially in entrepreneurs like Mike Lindell, who's been successful in business.
And he's put it all on the line here.
He has sacrificed his revenues in order to, you know, to say no to Fox News that was trying to censor so much.
And, you know, to really tell the truth, he's spending his own money doing this.
So, you know, kudos to him.
And that's if anything is going to save America, it's like you said, it's going to be people like Sidney Powell and people like Mike Lindell spreading the word.
And, you know, Patrick Byrne and the role that he's played as well, I think is very important.
You know, America is worth saving.
But they've created a situation where anybody who would try to stand up and even defend yourself, you know, you're labeled a terrorist.
Even for saying that the election was rigged, you could be considered a terrorist now under the corrupt DOJ. Well, the Department of Justice is, of course, an executive branch agency that is basically controlled by the White House.
It's filled top to bottom left to right with deep state people.
I don't know how many are, how many are not.
That's one of the issues that President Trump had with his presidency was dealing with the Department of Justice.
It's a tough nut because the socialist, communist, democrats, Muslims have been filling up key positions for decades with people that they control.
And when you take over an agency like that as an outsider, and President Trump truly was the only outsider I'm aware of in my lifetime who's come to Washington, D.C. as president, it's a tough nut to know who do you trust, who do you believe.
Some of his closest advisors really weren't that cognizant themselves.
He had people he could trust, but they weren't insiders themselves to know the difference between who was a patriot in the Department of Justice and who was not.
I should say prosecuting General Flynn was critical to the success of the deep state.
They understood that General Flynn was the real deal.
They understood that General Flynn would tell the truth.
They understood that General Flynn would do whatever it took to preserve our republic.
And getting rid of him became a matter of the highest priority.
I haven't met General Flynn.
I met his brother at a fundraiser in Dallas, a great guy.
And General Flynn, I was hoping that late in the Trump administration, General Flynn would be brought back in at a very high position to be a kick in the teeth for the New World Order.
Because men like General Flynn, the New World Order is deathly afraid of.
And they should be.
They should be.
And there are lots of General Flynn's out there if President Trump can find them.
Go ahead, Mike.
Well, I want to shift gears and ask you about the economic situation with the Democrats now demanding, I think, a three or four trillion dollar new stimulus, so-called stimulus.
Half of it's just payouts to their corporate friends and donors and so on.
It's just grift and bribery.
But If you think about the dollar, the money supply increased by 120% in 2020.
Obviously, the dollar is being devalued.
Inflation is everywhere now.
It's not just transitory inflation.
Things are doubling in price.
Some things are tripling in price.
How long do you think we have, John, before this house of cards is over with just the endless money printing?
Well, that's going to be to the international market that buys our debt, the Treasury bonds, the Treasury notes.
We've already had the Federal Reserve buying their own notes that they issue to prop up the market.
Let's keep in mind who our enemies are.
China owns a large percentage of our debt, Treasury notes and T-bills.
If they decide to sell everything they've got at one time, everything collapses.
And they can do that in a heartbeat.
Now, obviously, clearly, it would hurt them.
But the Politburo sacrificed 50 million Chinese people, murdered them, to achieve their goal.
So they're willing to sacrifice their own people by the tens of millions to achieve their goal.
Would they be willing to sacrifice a downturn in their economy?
Short-term?
To win their long-term goal of conquering the United States?
Of course they would.
And when it suits their fancy, you ask me when.
The answer is going to be in the Politburo of China.
They hold the key to destroying the economy of the United States, if they choose to.
If they keep buying American debt, then we'll be propped up.
And that goes for, I don't know how much debt Russia buys, but probably some, I don't know.
But the key to all this is communist countries, especially China, owning and buying American debt, treasury notes and T-bills.
It seems like the foreign holdings of U.S. treasury debt, which once seemed truly enormous, many trillions of dollars, is now being increasingly dwarfed by the money printing and the stimulus handouts.
It's almost as if COVID just gave permission to the Treasury and the Central Bank to just print maybe $10 trillion this year, which dwarfs the overseas holdings.
But it leads to what you just said, John, which was that the Federal Reserve is going to have to keep buying its own debt.
But isn't that a death spiral?
Right.
This $2 or $3 trillion is based by debt.
And that debt bears interest.
At some point, Mike, and I don't have any specific date in mind, at some point, all revenue from all sources won't pay the interest on the debt.
Now that's when it goes down also.
So there's a couple different ways.
China could sell all their debt and collapse it.
Unless they play some really unusual bookkeeping tricks.
Once we no longer have the revenue to service the debt, interest, then it's all over when we can't pay the interest on the debt.
That point can't be too far off.
The economy has been severely hurt by this first lockdown we had last year.
I recall driving down an eight-lane highway in the middle of the day last year in Metro St.
Louis and not seeing a car in front of me or a car behind me in the middle of the day on a weekday.
That was scary.
And they're about to start all over.
If they want to finish off the economy, if they want to kill the economy, let's have another nationwide lockdown.
That would do it.
It seems like that's imminent.
And we're also seeing a nationwide phenomenon where employers can't find workers, not for construction, for warehouses, for food, for grocery, transportation.
They can't find workers.
You know, there are now millions of job openings nationwide that aren't being filled.
Some of the states have cut off the additional COVID stimulus checks, but then because the CDC tells everybody you don't have to pay rent, a lot of potential workers are sitting at home saying, hey, I don't have to pay rent, so I don't have to go to work.
And this is sort of an end-around way to collapse the entire system.
Without the workers, nothing works.
I mean, I know it sounds obvious, but...
Well, I've got to follow up to that, Mike.
One of my listeners works on the ferry system in Puget Sound up there in the Seattle area.
The men and women in those positions, they just don't get hired and get a few weeks' training to learn how to operate those ferries.
It's jobs that take years.
And the governor of Washington State In the last week or so, it was announced that all state employees, including the ferry workers, must get the COVID shot, which I know you don't know Matt Bracken.
Yeah, I know Matt Bracken, yeah.
Right.
He's calling it something really funny, and I'll get to that in a moment.
But the clot shot, that's what he's calling it.
Matt Bracken is calling it the clot.
I really like that.
I don't know if he coined it or not, but I love it.
Anyway, about one-third of all the men and women who work for these ferries in Puget Sound are ready to quit their jobs rather than get the clot shot.
Now, that's not an isolated incident.
We've got men and women all over the country, both in the private sector and the public sector, that are aware that if they get the clot shot, they'll either be disabled or dead in a few months to a couple of years.
And they're putting their life ahead of a paycheck and a pension.
So that adds more fuel to the fire of workers not working.
I know locally, factories, these men and women, they get their COVID relief check, and they give their notice, or maybe they don't show up at all.
That's happening nationwide.
In Los Angeles County, I think there were 160 sheriff's deputies who said they're not going to take the shot and they're going to be fired because of that.
And I think there are police officers in Denver.
Same situation where these cities or these counties demand mass vaccinations and they're going to lose their human resources because people don't want to commit vaccine suicide.
Right.
Well, the people in charge that are ordering these men and women to be fired They knew in advance because they did their homework.
They knew the percentage of men and women in these positions that would refuse the clot shot and be separated, fire, be fired, resign, whatever, instead of take the clot shot.
They knew this in advance, and they also knew that the clot shots are harmful.
They knew that the men and women that quit would hurt the agencies tremendously while not accomplishing anything by having people get the clot shot.
All this is known in advance.
It's not a secret to the people in charge.
They're getting the result that they want, causing harm to these agencies.
Go ahead.
Well, the Pentagon.
So they've announced mandatory vaccines for all active duty soldiers.
That, from my perspective, that looks like treason.
That looks like releasing a bioweapon against your own military with, of course, enormous ramifications for national defense.
The men and women in the Chinese Politburo have to be having champagne toast to this and smiling and laughing at their enemies killing themselves.
Exactly.
That's exactly what's going on.
Of course they are.
Of course they are.
And in many cases, it's their people that are doing it in this country.
And I say their people, what they call their comrades in communism, maybe knowingly, maybe unknowingly, are accomplishing the goals of the communists on their behalf.
I mean, it's incredible that the U.S. military built the original template of this bioweapon.
They shipped it to China.
They funded it through Fauci.
China augmented it with gain-of-function research to heighten the targeting of human cells.
They created then the spike protein.
They put it into vaccines.
And then they injected the U.S. military personnel with the bioweapon that was originally developed by the U.S. military.
And you can't make this up.
No, you can't.
Well, was it Dr.
Malone that you have his speech, his interview?
David?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's, I mean, multiple experts.
Dr.
Judy Mikovits has spoken about this, Dr.
Richard Fleming, and many others.
And this originated with the Pentagon.
Well, the proof is in the patents and who got what the patents contained, who applied for the patents, and most important of all, the dates of patents were issued.
Right.
And if I was part of a team involved in a lawsuit against these people or a criminal prosecution, I would be getting certified copies of these patents delivered to the courtroom by the custodian records of the U.S. Patent Office.
To show definitely with no ifs, ands, or buts, the real evidence of these COVID viruses and the COVID vaccines, who was behind them, the dates of patents were issued.
One of your speakers on your video there at your website said, I believe it was the treatment for the virus patent was issued three days after the patent for the virus itself, if I recall correctly.
That's right.
That can't happen.
You know, that can't happen.
Yeah, it was all engineered.
It did.
And it's all preplanned.
It's all engineered in advance.
And we are, you and I, and everybody listening to this video here and watching this video, we're all being subjected to biological warfare.
And that's easily provable.
Easily provable.
And the Department of Defense is not doing anything about it that I'm aware of.
The Department of Justice, nobody.
We're being subjected to biological warfare by our own terrorist government.
That's the thing that people have a hard time grasping.
I guess more and more are.
But when your government releases a bioweapon against you and then calls it a vaccine and then mandates the vaccine and pushes it to all federal employees and Fauci's demanding all teachers be injected with this bioweapon.
I mean, this is beyond...
Even the democide of history, the Stalinists, the Maoists, the Cultural Revolution, the Pol Pot, North Korea.
I mean, this is beyond all of that.
It is, because it's worldwide.
There's never been a worldwide biological attack.
And I always looked up the video, Dr.
David Martin, at your website.
Everybody, if you haven't seen, at naturalnews.com, the interview with Dr.
David Martin, you need...
Mike, I have a photographic memory.
I rarely read a book twice because I just don't, or watch a movie twice.
I've watched this video twice in entirety, and I'm halfway through it on the third time.
Wow.
Because I don't want to miss any nuance or miss any detail.
That's how important this video is.
I've been involved, like I said earlier, in trial preparation for not quite half a century at very high levels.
Very high levels.
And I know how this is done.
And I'm watching this man present the evidence in a structured, organized fashion, the same way an attorney would present it to a court of law.
And I would love to be part of a team working on this to prosecute these men and women who committed these crimes.
International crimes of biological warfare.
That's exactly what's going on.
And that's not a flippant statement.
That's a statement that's based on reality and based on law, international law, U.S. law, and the law of nature.
Crimes against humanity are being committed here, and we are the victims, Mike.
Well, you may get your opportunity because some other people I'm interviewing are very confident that there will be Nuremberg 2.0 trials, that the evidence can't be covered up, even the autopsies, all the dead bodies.
I mean, you were a homicide detective, correct, for many years, right?
Yes.
Most of my adult life, I investigated murders and did trial preparation.
I wore both hats.
I did the trial preparation as a paralegal.
I did the investigation as a homicide detective.
So I did it all.
So you know, if there's lots of bodies with lots of evidence, that's hard to cover up on a global scale if they're killing maybe a billion people and there's spike protein in all their organs.
How do they sweep that under the rug?
There's lots of evidence that will hopefully will be presented to a jury or juries plural.
I don't know how corrupt the world court at the Hague is one way or the other.
There's various other national courts where cases could be presented.
I don't have direct knowledge of how corrupt or how honest they are.
But it needs to happen, Mike.
We need to have criminal prosecutions in a number of courts worldwide.
It needs to begin immediately to save as many lives as we can.
Now, my belief is that everybody who wants to get the COVID shot, the clot shot, has already got it.
What they're left with is people who don't want to get it unless they're coerced by a threat of losing their employment.
That's what's left.
By a threat of not being able to travel, that's what's left.
Coercion and threats.
That's, at least in this country.
They tried promises.
Get free college tuition if you get the clot shot.
Get free this.
Get free that.
That's over.
Now they're left with coercion and threats.
And that's where we're going right now, Mike, nationwide and possibly worldwide.
Okay, final question for you, John.
And I want to thank you for taking the time to spend with us today.
Remind our viewers to check out your website, thelibertyman.com.
And also, can you tell us again your radio broadcast?
Monday through Friday, Republic Broadcasting.
Everything is linked on my website at thelibertyman.com.
Make sure it's thelibertyman.com.
And I have a bridey on channel, Mike.
The John Moore Show.
That's great.
Okay.
I have a Brighteon channel.
That's all my archives are posted there, typically in 12, not more than 24 hours.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Okay, great.
I'm glad you mentioned that today.
Brighteon, well, I'll tell you off-air about the investments we're making in Brighteon infrastructure.
It's substantial.
We're here for the long haul.
I'm trying to get the knowledge to do video while I'm doing my radio show.
I haven't figured out how to do that yet, but maybe some bright guy at Brighteon could tell me how to do that.
I don't have a clue.
Yeah, we have a lot of good, competent personnel who can help with that.
But last question for you.
So as a homicide detective, you probably covered many hundreds or perhaps thousands of murders over the years.
I would guess that it boils down to probably a few common motivations that people...
Why would someone commit murder?
It's probably just a short list of motivations.
But my question to you is, on a global scale, Can you explain the motivation and the psychology that would have to be present to allow global extermination attempts?
I've been around some of these people.
Native-born Americans who, just to meet them, you may think that this is just a good guy, a conservative person, and so forth.
They talk about our service people the same way Kistner does.
They regard them as animals whose life has no meaning.
That's how they regard U.S. service members.
They regard human beings in general, except for people in their own societal section that they're part of as animals that have no useful purpose, useless eaters, in other words.
Their goal is stated on the Georgia Guidestones, 500 million people on the planet.
The majority of them will be serving the needs of the minority that intends to be in control of everything.
They regard us people as a virus to be exterminated.
Because we're using up the Earth's resources.
We're taking up space that should be occupied by wild animals and have most of the Earth return to a wild state before human beings occupied parts of the world.
So it's satanic in nature, and there's a spiritual battle going on here.
Ultimately, this is a spiritual battle, Mike.
And I encourage everybody to get their spiritual house in order as the highest priority above everything else.
The freeze-dried food, the water, the guns, the medical supplies.
Your spiritual house being in order is the single most important thing that you can do.
Yeah, you need the freeze-dried food.
You need the ammunition.
You need the medical supplies.
Of course you need those things.
But that all comes after getting your spiritual house in order.
And if I could emphasize one thing above everything else, Mike, that would be it.
Okay, well, we second that, and I think people are doing that.
You've got to keep your spiritual body in tune with God, but you've got to keep your physical body alive in order to be here and defend humanity.
We are under extreme assault.
What you said today, people should take to heart.
John, I want to thank you.
Thank you, Mike.
I think they do.
Yeah, thank you for joining us today.
It's always an honor to be able to speak with you.
I'll get rid of the Golden Gate Bridge next time we do this.
Okay, that's all right.
That's fine.
Yeah, until next time, John, be safe.
And everybody, visit thelibertyman.com for more information from John Moore.
And thank you for watching today.
This is Mike Adams here, brighteon.com.
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