Clay Clark on covid lockdown insanity and how to overcome economic tyranny
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Welcome everyone to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, where you're going to hear interesting interviews that are typically censored everywhere else.
Today's interview, I'm not sure yet if it's going to be censored.
We'll find out.
We have an amazing guest, Clay Clark, from Thrive Time Show.
The website is thrivetimeshow.com.
He's going to give out a phone number.
You can text the word truth to that number to get all the evidence of the things that he's going to talk about.
He's a very energetic, very intelligent man with quite a following, one of the largest, most successful business podcasts in the world today.
So, Clay, thank you for joining me.
It's an honor to have you on.
Hey, I appreciate you for yet again lowering the standards to allow me on your show.
Are you kidding me?
No, you're the big guy.
I'm humbled that you're coming on my show.
So thank you.
Thank you for allowing me to be here with your smart listeners, and hopefully your listeners can assume that everything I'm telling them is crazy, and they can verify later that it is in fact true.
Okay, so I definitely, I wanted to introduce you to our listeners so they can also check out your show, but give us a quick overview of kind of what you're about, what they can expect to hear.
Well, I grew up without money, like a lot of people, and in a capitalist society, you can do a couple moves.
And the moves I did is I worked at Applebee's Target and DirecTV, I had three jobs simultaneously.
I saved as much money as I could.
I lived off of the budget gourmet section of the frozen foods at Walmart.
100% non-organic, 100% not healthy, probably 100% sodium.
And I built what became America's largest or one of America's largest disc jockey entertainment companies.
We did, if you can believe it, almost 4,000 weddings every weekend.
That company was called DJConnection.com.
I have sold it, but it still exists.
And somehow through that process of growing a wedding entertainment company, I learned systems and processes.
I'm a voracious reader.
And then after I sold the business and was named the SBA Entrepreneur of the Year Award, I wasn't sure whether that was a good award because I'm so suspicious of the government.
But I did receive an award from the Small Business Administration.
And all of a sudden, people asked me to do speaking events.
I sold the DJ business, the entertainment company.
I sold the photography company.
And then I invested in other...
And I took on 160 clients that I work with, and I only take on 160 clients.
And our average client grew by 104% last year, 104%.
And if you go to ThriveTimeShow.com, ThriveTimeShow.com, you can see dog trainers, doctors, dentists, mortgage providers, Oklahoma's largest home building company.
These people grow, and then there's kind of a waiting list.
So I get to kind of choose who I want to work with.
And about, Mike, you might know the specific date, but I think about a year ago, I'll never forget, I got my first text message from a listener, and they said, hey, I love what you're talking about on the show, but how am I supposed to implement the business systems to grow my business if I can't be open?
And I had that thought of, that's a great question.
Now, I'm in Oklahoma, right?
And then I got another text and another text, and so I thought, you know, I'm going to start talking about the fact that the models that said 2.2 million people would die from COVID-19, that those models were created by the Abdul Latif Jameel Institute.
And again, folks, please don't believe anything that I'm telling you.
Just text the word TRUTH. Text the word truth to 918-552-5142.
That's a 918-552-5142.
You text the word truth, and I'll send all the evidence here.
But so I started talking to our listeners, tell them, hey, it's going to be okay.
The models that said 2.2 million people would die from COVID-19, those are false.
And it's going to be okay because the PCR tests that they're using to justify COVID-19 that are elevating the number of cases, those are falsely calibrated.
So as soon as government officials discover that the models are wrong and the PCR tests are falsely inflated, we'll be fine.
Okay, so hold on a second here.
So just to set the context, so you went from the business world, mostly just talking about business and helping people run their businesses and giving people ideas about how to be more efficient and grow and so on, to now suddenly, oh, suddenly you're in the controversy of lockdowns are bad and there are too many false positives and we can't trust the test.
So first of all, How did that change?
I mean, what happened to you?
Did you start getting a bunch of pushback against that?
Well, let me tell you the crazy story.
And please, folks, if you're listening to me right now, just please assume I'm just bat crazy, okay?
But I have a guy here.
He's a mystery voice who can chime in from time to time.
He runs Oklahoma's largest home building company.
So Aaron Antis with Shaw Homes.
He can kind of mystery voice.
But Kim Clement...
Mike, I'm not sure if you've seen his prophecies.
Sure, I have, yes.
Clement.
And in one of the prophecies, he talks about this guy by the name of Mr.
Clark that is supposed to basically be sharing a message with the president, and because of his prayers, Trump will be re-elected.
And it kept being texted to me from our listeners.
And I'm going, no, no, no.
But the first time I got the text, and Aaron's here, he's my accountability partner.
Everybody go to shahomes.com.
Go to shahomes.com.
You'll see Oklahoma's largest home building company.
And I am legitimately not wanting this prophecy to be sent to me.
And people are sending it to me, but the first time it gets sent to me, A man by the name of Charles Colaw.
It's colawfitness.com.
Imagine a Planet Fitness meets Chick-fil-A. It's like a Christian-owned, unapologetically Christian fitness center.
He sends me a text and says, bro, watch this.
I watched the video.
I see it.
It says Clay Clark, or he says Mr.
Clark.
He said Mr.
Clark.
Kim Clement says there's a guy by the name of Mr.
Clark.
Who, because of your prayers, you're going to be getting this message to the President, and because of the prayers, he will be re-elected.
And I'm thinking, who's Kim Clement?
And then, like an hour later, One American News reaches out and wants me to be interviewed on One American News.
They want to interview me.
And I'm going, I've never been on One American News, but okay.
And then I'm thinking, One American News, isn't that the network that the Oklahoma State head football coach got in trouble for?
He wore a One American News shirt.
Yep.
That's right.
Well, if he got in trouble for wearing the shirt, I'd probably want to be on that show.
That's cool.
And then, true story, Mike, within the same hour, Newsmax reaches out.
And I'm going, this is really weird.
Wait a minute.
Were they reaching out based on the prophecy or something totally unrelated to that?
Based off of, I think, doing a lot of shows, having a podcast that ranks well.
Okay.
Kind of looking for someone who doesn't...
I don't think it's a political statement to point out that the Abdul Latif Jameel Institute, an organization that is not an American organization, an organization funded by Amazon and Bill Gates, Is saying that we should shut our country down.
That the head of that organization, Neil Ferguson, who's chronically wrong about his predictions, is telling us, well, we need to mitigate.
We need to look at possibly...
He actually said these words.
We need to look at the Chinese method of maybe shutting down for 18 months, maybe 12 months on a strict...
I'm like, what?
And so I'm saying this.
So they reach out.
And Mike, this is all within about a 90-minute window.
Then the White House, I get an invitation from the White House via Richard Manning.
He's a consultant.
Says they would like for me to attend a White House deregulation event.
And Aaron, if you can grab the framed picture out of the ceiling there, I can show it to Mike's listeners.
But I'm going, why am I being invited to the White House?
I've never been to the White House.
Why am I being invited to be on Newsmax?
And this is all happening.
And so what I did is I went ahead and this is my to-do list from that day.
It's upside down.
They'll make it harder.
This is my to-do list from that day, and I have it here.
And then this is the invitation from the White House inviting me to attend.
And if anybody looks me up, you're going to notice I have no discernible skills.
I'm a father of five, and I just happen to be good at growing a business.
And the White House, Newsmax, and One America all reached out to me within just a couple-hour window of time.
And then I did those interviews, and then it led to well over 100 interviews I've done so far.
And then I find my wife.
She's coming into work one day.
My wife does all the accounting for our companies.
She's bebopping around.
She's all smiling like she won.
And I'm going...
Every time she smiles like that, it's when she just finished paying taxes.
And I'm going, I don't...
And I hear your voice.
My voice?
Yeah, your voice, because my wife apparently listens to you.
And I'm like, who is that man, that happy, funny man?
And you're talking about a lot of the stuff that we're talking about.
And I thought, that guy's a sick freak, that guy.
He's trying to get my wife's attention.
And then Charlene Bollinger tells me, oh, I listen to Mike every day.
And then Mickey Willis from the Plandemic.
And then all these people that I know apparently know you.
And now here we are.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, thank you for referring to me as the happy, funny man.
That's kind of the best attitude.
My kids love you.
I was just like, who is this happy, funny man stealing the attention of my family?
And then I kept hearing your name.
It's like once you hear a name, you hear it everywhere.
You see it everywhere.
See, you're pretty happy too, but I get pushback on that.
Why are you so happy?
Why are you happy during these horrible times?
Stop being happy.
And, you know, I'm like, I'm not going to black pill everybody.
That's not my goal.
Yeah, you know, I'll say this.
This is how I would describe this year.
And I'm not at all going to punch your puppy or kick your kitten.
It's a cute little animal.
I wouldn't do that.
But I want to make sure that it's going to feel like this for somebody watching your show.
I feel like America is on a boat.
And we're on a boat, and about 12 months ago, you, myself...
I don't know what shows you want to talk about.
They're saying to the listeners, hey guys, we're on a boat and in 12 months we're going to go off Niagara Falls.
In 12 months.
So the good news is we just have to turn the engines on and we just go upstream and we're good.
Because we got 12 months, there's no real momentum, there's no rapids right now.
We're on a seemingly lazy river.
But 12 months from now, going at about 2 miles an hour, we're eventually...
Going to go off the falls.
And I feel like right now, as of the time we're recording this, on the 26th of January, there are still people wondering if they are, in fact, on a boat.
If there is a waterfall.
Oh, yeah.
Looking out over the edge now, and they're going, Hey, what's going on?
Hey, hey, look at this!
There's a waterfall!
And you can see the mist, and you hear the rapids.
Woo!
And the captain is yelling, turn on the engines!
And the engine guy's going, I can't get you any power, captain, because he hasn't turned on the engine in his whole life.
He's 40.
He's never had adversity.
I can't get you any power.
And the captain's going, put the key in the ignition!
And then the engine guy is saying, I don't like your tone.
And it's about the tone of the captain.
It's crazy to me.
It blows my mind.
And so every day, people text the word truth.
I'll walk the listeners through the cycle.
They text the word truth to 918-525-142.
And it goes like this every time.
I'm just going to hold this up for accountability so our listeners can see my phone.
I've received 29 messages since we hopped on the show so far.
You're like, please go to your phone.
Yeah, there's a little bit of a system I'm working on.
Thumb technology is impressive.
Sometimes we get 1,500.
We do, but my thumb is the backup.
And they say, please send me all of the information related to the George H. W. Bush funeral.
Please send me Sidney Powell's report.
Is it true?
Next one.
Please send me any information regarding COVID-19 cures and treatments that are most effective.
That wearing a mask makes healthy people sick and the ingredients on the vaccines.
And so I send it to them, and every time people discover that the models that said 2.2 million people would die are false and funded by Amazon and Bill Gates, they go, what?
And then they discover the PCR tests are falsely calibrated, and we know now that Joe Biden is the president, fake president, now that Joe Biden is the fake president, now all of a sudden the WHO, the World Health Organization, has said, The models that predicted that 2.2 million people would die, we've acknowledged those were a little false.
They've just started saying that kind of thing.
Another saying that we need to recalibrate the PCR tests because they're supposed to be 100% effective at 17 cycles.
But they've been at 40 cycles.
It's like your speedometer telling you you're driving 400 miles an hour when you're driving 7.
And then they say, Clay, you mean to tell me that Dr.
Richard Bartlett, by the way, it's all in this text message, Dr.
Richard Bartlett and Dr.
Jim Meehan have treated thousands of patients with zero deaths using Budesonide, the FDA-approved Budesonide, and the generic brand, if you want the yellow box, Pulmacourt, Or ivermectin.
And the drugs that work, hydroxychloroquine, budesonide, ivermectin, they're being banned.
So the models that said 2.2 million people would die are false.
Well, they're trying to make the models come true by killing people, especially in nursing homes.
It's not a model.
It's their blueprint.
It's their plan.
Conversation today with somebody and everybody listening, please, please, this is the problem.
People blindly believe people.
They go, oh, Mike Adams, Mike Adams, he's the man.
Listen, why I listen to your show now is because you vet everything you say.
You've earned that.
But some people are going, well, he's got veneers and they're kind of attractive.
They've got good eyebrows and they're on ABC. I should probably listen to them.
Listen to pretty faces and veneer faces, but we're not looking it up.
But if you'll go to timetofreeamerica.com, timetofreeamerica.com.
And Aaron, our mystery voice here, I've shown this to Aaron, but this is crazy.
If you'll just go to timetofreeamerica.com and you click on follow the money, you're going to discover that the $3,100 per treatment known as remdesivir So let me explain to you what that means, folks.
If you have an upper respiratory infection, You take remdesivir, which never made it through clinical trials, so that your money, your physical money goes to China and George Soros, and then remdesivir causes renal failure.
So, Aaron, the first time that you heard that the medication that treats upper respiratory infections causes renal failure, what was your reaction?
Do you remember?
I was freaked out by it.
I'm like, why would they prescribe this to anybody?
Are they trying to kill people?
Are they trying to kill people?
Yes!
Yeah.
Okay, we know that's true.
And Hank Aaron, sadly, a great baseball legend, died within about two weeks after taking the vaccine.
But they rolled out Hank Aaron, said, oh, look, this is a great black leader to inspire other black Americans to take the vaccine, to say, oh, look, this isn't Tuskegee.
Vaccines are safe for black people.
And then the man died.
He died from the vaccine.
Most of us have come to that conclusion.
But there's no apology from the pharmaceutical companies.
Oh, we killed Hank Aaron, a wonderful human being.
No apology.
They just move on.
Who else can we get?
Roll out the next person.
Well, what you do in the cancel culture is you...
Anytime somebody calls something...
Anytime someone presents a fact...
You immediately, you have to, you immediately have to say, that's a conspiracy theorist, they're in a cult.
That's the move.
It's like the line.
Oh, that's a conspiracy theorist.
They're in a cult.
And this is interesting, but James is here.
He's also a mystery voice, Mike.
He's an attorney from New York here.
I convinced him to move to Oklahoma from New York.
Wait a minute.
What are all these guys doing in your room?
Well, there's 160 clients.
There's 160 clients, and they're all business owners.
And so we just packed the room.
It's like the Wu-Tang Clan.
There's 160 people.
Everyone has a mic.
And so, but seriously, I mean, James, you saw that.
New York has been destroyed.
Oh, and it keeps getting more and more destroyed.
And you bring it up.
You're like, guys, if we keep it shut, we're going to be closed.
Imagine that.
And they go, are you trying to say if we're shut, we're closed?
That's a conspiracy, clearly, yes.
It's unbelievable.
It's sad.
It makes me want to cry.
You mentioned the vaccines.
I'll text everybody what's inside the vaccines.
I just want to read this off because I can't make this up.
It's RNA-modifying nanotechnology.
The technology is called Lucifer Race.
The technology was developed by Jeffrey Epstein in conjunction with Bill Gates and the disgraced Harvard professor Charles Lieber.
And I know I just told you a lot there, but think about this, folks.
I have five kids.
If you're listening right now, you probably have a kid.
Maybe you were a kid.
Maybe you are a kid.
You were a kid.
Think about this.
If you were a kid currently, or you have kids, and I said, here's the deal, guys.
I'm bringing over a great friend tonight.
We're going to have a family time.
It's going to be great.
We are going to stay six feet apart.
There'll be six of us total.
We're going to be safe.
And we're going to all wear masks.
And my good friend, It's coming over.
His name is Jeffrey Epstein.
And they go, Jeffrey Epstein?
You mean the pedophile?
And I go, yeah, but that's in the past.
See, I've been working with him to help create vaccines.
I mean, think about the insanity of that on a personal level.
The world's most prolific pedophile...
Be friends.
Bill Gates.
And they have this bizarre relationship.
And if everybody would go to Google or DuckDuckGo and search for this, this will make you crazy.
Type it into Google real quick.
This is crazy.
Type in Jeffrey Epstein creates own race of people.
Go ahead, folks.
I'll wait.
Yeah.
No.
I know about that story.
He was attempting to.
Race of people.
So think about this.
The world's most prolific pedophile.
Would you...
What is going on?
If there's anybody in your life who's hanging out with the world's most prolific pedophile, just as kind of a pro tip, distance yourself from them.
You don't want to be hanging out with pedophiles.
That's not a move!
Let alone a pedophile who's creating his own race of people.
Mike, I'm sure you've covered this, but the cryptocurrency that Bill Gates has worked on, I mean, these idiots...
It's like they're so obvious it's almost like a bad movie, but it's not a bad movie.
It's life.
The patent number that these idiots have chosen, this blows my mind.
Again, the patent number is W02020. 060606.
That is creepy.
If you have a friend who hangs out with the world's most prolific pedophile who has a patent number 060606, perhaps that's not the kind of dude you want to hang out with.
I mean, do you agree, Mike?
Yes, yes, but hold on a second.
Viewers might be a little confused here.
So we've got to understand, what is motivating you to talk about these truths that are truths?
I can confirm what you're saying is absolutely true.
But you're in the world of focus on business podcasts and helping people succeed in their businesses, right?
And then I understand the businesses got shut down, and so that's a problem for businesses to succeed.
But you have taken this much further than just talking about businesses.
I mean, now you're talking about genocide.
You're talking about, you know, some pretty evil technologies and pretty evil people, global control, all these things.
What has compelled you to do that?
And I see the word Jesus, by the way, behind you over your left shoulder saying, At the top of what looks like a pyramid structure with Z under G. What's the Z? It's not a pyramid scheme, but this is the pyramid of my life.
I organize.
Hey, let's do this, Andrew, real quick.
Wave the camera around.
Let's break all the rules for a second.
Kind of wave it around to give people a little context here.
But this, just focus it on, if you can, on the pyramid for a second.
It's really important that everybody listening...
I tell all my clients this.
You want to write down the following F's.
They call it the F6. Okay, there you go.
There's the following six F's.
F number one is faith.
F number two is family, finances, fitness, friendship, fun.
If you want to download the free book about it, go to thrivetimeshow.com forward slash free resources.
You can download the boom book.
So I believe that a business just exists.
And Andrew, you can kind of wave around real quick too.
A business just exists to allow you to create time, freedom, and financial freedom to do the Lord's work.
That's what I believe.
So all these books, at the end of the day, I've read all these books, and you can kind of put them way around the room.
That's Aaron there, Mystery Together, in the studio, in the bunker.
Thank you, Andrew.
You can put it back.
You have a lot of books.
A lot of books, yeah.
I read a lot of books.
So what happens is, though, a business just exists to allow you to do the Lord's work.
So I want all the listeners right now, take out a piece of paper and sort the following F's on the importance list, okay?
What's most important to you?
What's the foundation?
I believe faith.
It's got to be faith, yeah.
But not a lot of people do.
Because remember it says, for the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord.
For the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.
Someone should write that down.
Wisdom is the beginning of all wisdom is the fear of the Lord.
So you say faith, and then you say family.
Maybe it's not.
Maybe family does not matter to you.
And that's okay.
Faith, family, finances, fitness, friendship, and fun.
Faith, family, finance, fitness, friendship, and I'll let you sort it out.
So this is an example.
In the Bible, it says, peace, sword.
Let me pull the verse real quick here.
I know it's not appropriate to look stuff up while talking on a podcast, but here we go.
So Matthew 10, 34 reads, Think not that I am come to send peace on earth, and I came not to send peace, but a sword.
A sword?
And you start to go, what is God talking about?
Did God lose his mind for a second?
No, we continue reading.
If that's okay, we'll continue.
So Matthew 10.35 says, A man's foes, So what does that mean?
What that means is I decided to follow Jesus And I do a really, really bad job.
So don't equate me to Jesus.
The Hebrew language doesn't have a word for the word hero, by the way.
The Hebrew language, I interviewed Rabbi Daniel Lappin on my show.
Rabbi Daniel Lappin, he brought that up.
The Hebrew, the Jewish language, the original language of the Old Testament was written and they didn't have a word for the word hero.
Because you shouldn't put your hope in man.
We're all going to make mistakes.
We're all going to let you down.
So don't put hope in me.
My thesis is put your eyes on Jesus.
But here's the problem.
If you do that, you put your faith first, then there's a certain time, it's called a calling.
I wish people would know these, the origin of words.
But the word vocation, the original meaning of the word vocation is...
Calling.
Okay?
So I only work with 160 clients that are...
So Shaw Homes, your business, Aaron.
Yeah.
You guys are Oklahoma's largest home building company.
Yes, sir.
But you're also the biggest supporter of what?
Was it a St.
Jude's?
St.
Jude, yeah.
And they have a house for girls that are part of the sex slave trade thing.
In Thailand and Burma, yeah.
Yeah, so when we sell houses, we're helping rescue kids.
So you put your faith first.
Now, this is where it gets crazy.
Is the Bible real?
I believe it is.
So I started just sharing.
All I shared, Mike, was that the models that said that 2.2 million people would die, those are false.
And the PCR tests are falsely calibrated.
And I'm not going to even, I wasn't even saying why people would make a false model or why they were making a PCR test with inflated cases.
They just were wrong.
And I started watching the emails come in from one lady named Carol.
Hi, Carol.
Carol says, I thought you were a Christian man.
You care about prophets more than people?
And I'm thinking, if this would have happened in the time of the pilgrims, so I wrote her a little letter, you know, a little thing.
She said, in the time of the pilgrims, if they were told to take nine months to pause or four weeks to pause, what would have happened?
They would have starved.
The idea of socialism, it says in the Bible in Genesis, you know, talks about this.
We're supposed to work six days a week.
God gave us the garden so we can work it.
Work is a good thing.
The word work in Hebrew means worship, by the way.
Work means worship, and worship means work.
There's only one word for work and worship.
Work is under the Lord.
That's what that means.
So I'm going, no, this is not good.
And I was freaking out.
I mean, you saw I was freaking out.
Not yelling at people, just posting facts.
All I would do is post facts.
And then people started saying, don't you care about your family?
And then it's like, the models came out, they were wrong.
The scarf queen, Deborah Brooks, admitted that they were wrong.
Dr.
Fauci gets up and says...
We shouldn't have shut the border.
We shouldn't have shut the border.
And then two weeks later, two weeks later, we should have shut the border.
We should have mitigated.
You shouldn't wear a mask.
You should not wear a mask.
Now you're wearing a mask in a pandemic.
And then the guy in 60 Minutes says, a lot of people are watching this.
Are you sure?
You shouldn't wear a mask.
It doesn't help in a pandemic.
And now he says, you need to wear a mask.
No, two.
Two masks.
You got a double mask now.
People are so nefarious.
So now here we are.
And I start losing friends.
But really, do I lose friends?
I don't know.
I think the Bible's real.
Matthew 10, look it up, verse 35 through 38.
So all of a sudden, I start finding people like you, and Mickey Willis, and Roger Stone, and Lynn Wood, who are reaching out to me in some capacity, going, dude, you've got the facts.
How do you have the facts?
And then the conversation I've given...
I want to send you a picture.
I'll text you a picture of the board of all the people I've talked to.
It's truly incredible.
It's like a Rain Man thing.
It's amazing.
But I've talked to hundreds of people that have major, major power, leaders of states, leaders of cities, and the leader of our city, Mayor Craig Thurmond, so far is one of the few brave people that says, So you're saying the model that said 2.2 million people would die is false.
PCR tests are falsely calibrated, and the treatments that work are affordable.
I mean, it's just been absolutely growing.
But everybody else, this is what they tell me.
Mike, these are the leaders I thought were on our team.
They say, politically right now, it's a little too risky.
Ah.
Or they say, I don't want to get lumped in with a conspiracy theorist.
We've heard this from governors.
We've heard this from legislators, congresspeople, everybody.
And I mean this, folks.
I don't mean this anatomically speaking, but the female governor of South Dakota has the most balls in America.
That's true.
She's unbelievable.
And this lady loves the Lord.
I've been shocked by how few people are willing to suffer for the cause of Christ.
And so I talk to these leaders and these pastors, megachurches right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Big shout-out, by the way, to Guts Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
They're doing a great job.
They're not using fear in the church.
They're pointing out that fear is not of God.
But a lot of other megachurches, I mean, right here in Oklahoma, I talk to the pastors, and I say, Could you open your Bible, please, to Matthew 5.11?
And they open it up.
And I say, it says here, Blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake.
And they go, yeah, but we're getting some online negative feedback right now.
Yeah, well, I think Lin Wood also cited that scripture as well, because he's getting hammered so aggressively.
Now, you've interviewed Lin Wood several times.
You have the very popular Fireside Chats series going with him, correct?
Right, and I just want everyone to know, in a perfect world, I would never talk about anything that you talk about on your show.
And I would just listen into your show and I'd go, that's the funny guy with the facts, Mike Adams.
Love that guy.
Because what you're saying is way too true, way too deep, way too authentic.
I would rather watch Adam Sandler movies.
When you run a company, when you have hundreds of employees like I do, when you run companies and you're advising, think about this, folks.
I'm coaching 160 businesses that combined are almost doing $3 billion of sales.
And they have families and kids.
It's a lot of pressure.
And they're always like, are you sure?
Are you sure we need to update our website?
Are you sure we need to put in that call script?
Are you sure we need to put in the workflow?
Are you sure we should expand to that state?
And there's a lot of pressure.
And if I do a good job, people keep paying me and it's good.
A lot of pressure.
So I like to watch Adam Sandler, the scene where he talks to the swan.
Stop looking at me, Swan.
I like the Billy Madison.
I'm kind of a shallow end of the pool.
We're the floaties kind of guy.
I want to lick on non-organic sugary things and just sort of have that light world.
And my wife says, you need to be organic.
I'm naturally just trying to keep it light.
But we are in a moment now where we are on a boat.
As the Canadians would say, we're a boat.
We're a boat to go over the waterfall.
We're on a boat and a boat, don't you know?
We're about to go over a waterfall and I believe, this is not a hard stat, 30% of Americans even know we're on a boat.
Yeah, very true.
But your clients are, no doubt, much better informed than most of America right now.
What are you telling your clients, the 160 that you mentioned, what are you telling them about what is coming in 2021?
Well, okay.
Well, first off, Jesus is king.
Let's just be real.
Jesus is king, and you, the listeners, we elected President Donald J. Trump to be our president on Earth, but Jesus is king.
So Jesus did some incredible stuff.
Like, he made the Earth, and if he can make the Earth, I'm pretty certain that he can do other things, too.
I'm pretty certain he can do stuff.
But that's kind of...
When I start talking about Jesus as being the most viable strategy...
This is either the Great Awakening or really scary.
So clients I work with, the first question I got all day today was, how am I going to pay anybody when they raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour?
Yes, yes, right.
Same question.
Every client today, and Mike, we did this interview at 3, so 3 Central, so that would have been 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 1, 1.
So seven people asked me about the $15 minimum wage.
Seven.
And they were definitely concerned about it.
Well, yeah, especially, look, your clients, are they mostly in the Midwest or all over, or are they more focused all over?
I would say predominantly in red states, although we do not discriminate, but I would just say they're concerned about that.
If you raise minimum wage...
I'm sorry to interrupt.
So economically and mathematically speaking, the red states tend to have lower costs of living than the blue states, especially in rural areas versus city areas.
So this federal mandate, it might seem reasonable To an L.A. business, or a New York City business, let's say, but in South Dakota, Wyoming, Oklahoma, most of Texas, it's insane.
People aren't worth $15 an hour at that entry-level labor wage, and it's going to drive companies out of business.
It's also just as horrible as when Obama said, listen, if you're going to put someone on salary, here's the minimum That could be qualified as salary.
Mike, this is Dr.
Zellner.
He runs Oklahoma's largest optometry clinic and auto auction.
I don't run anything.
I own everything.
And he owns a bank, Mike.
We can talk about the FDIC. He owns a bank.
I'm an unemployed, out of work...
Anyway, whenever he said, listen, in order to be on, in order to say your salary, because as we know, there's benefits to having an employee on salary.
There's no overtime.
There's, you know, they pick up an extra shift here or there.
They're in management, whatever you want to say.
But he said, hey, listen, you can't pull this thing and say, hey, listen, your salary and your $24,000 here, they put a minimum on it, which was pretty high, which was reasonable for New York and L.A., but it wasn't reasonable for cost of living in Oklahoma and Indiana, Arkansas, Missouri go through a number of states.
And so I don't think it's a bad thing for the federal government to say, hey, listen, state by state, you're in charge of your own, you know, salary minimums, pay minimums.
You know your people better than the federal government.
And here again, it's that federal big government mandating stuff and treating every state, every person as if they're exactly the same.
And it just wears me out.
And we're treating almost every country like it's the same.
The head of Tanzania, that crazy guy, I love this guy, the head of Tanzania, he says, I realize that the rest of the world is in a pandemic.
What I would like to do is I'd like to test fruit and animals to see if they have COVID-19.
So he starts just testing random things with PCR tests, and it's determined that way early, he points out, by the way, as in Tanzania, the PCR tests are fake, so we're not going to participate in the pandemic.
And people right away, you say you're a conspiracy theorist, you're crazy, you've lost your mind.
Well, you are crazy.
Well, you have lost your mind.
Let me go find it.
Okay.
Back to you.
But no, isn't he the one who found that papaya test positive for COVID? Big spreader.
They're super spreaders, in fact.
We call that, we're going to change the name from papaya to papaya spreader.
Papaya spreader, that's right.
Papaya 19.
That's, yeah, that's a special strain of papaya.
82 vaccinations.
We think you might be okay if you double mask.
You might be okay.
Well, I think, I'm pretty sure that in Texas, the cows are going to test positive soon, and the vaccine companies are going to get paid by the government to produce bovine vaccines to vaccinate all the cattle.
That's the revenue model, is to push vaccines.
If you have to develop something, come up with it and distribute it and do it.
I mean, you should be paid for that.
I'm a capitalist.
I mean, you don't want those companies doing it for nothing, do you?
I mean, we need meat.
Oh, come on.
They would call it COVID-19.
As much weight as I put on over the quarantine, I'm going to call it now COVID-27.
Yeah.
I flew past 19 the first, I think, week and a half, but you know.
Alright, so Clay, I love your other guest there, by the way.
It's awesome to have this conversation.
But getting back to the question, what are you telling your clients to expect in 2021 beyond the $15 an hour wage issue?
This is the problem we have, and I'm just telling you how it went today.
My very first client today, he's a very good person.
I'm going to look at my calendar real quick, so I want to make sure I'm accurate on all these stories.
So the first guy I met with at 8, he let me know, he says, hey...
The $15 thing, everybody on my team is, the entry level is about 12, the average person is over 15.
What does that mean for me?
That's all I wanted to know.
And I said, it just means you're going to have to do that.
We're probably going to have to do it overall, just price increase.
Now, he's told me, I do not want to know.
He knows, because this particular man, he knows that on the CDC website, and by the way, folks, if you'll text that number, please, okay?
Text the number.
I will provide you proof that the CDC is now calling for the usage of Of what they're calling green zones.
You might call them a concentration camp, because that's what they are.
But the CDC, so if you want to prove this, folks, just do a search right now on Google for CDC, and then we'll do COVID-19 green zones.
And there we go.
Okay, so CDC, again, CDC Green Zones, you can find it right there.
And it's called Interim Operational Considerations for Implementing the Shielding Approach to Prevent COVID-19 Infections.
So that, you know, a lot of this particular client, early on he wanted to know about the quarantines.
He wanted to know about the quarantine camps.
He was very concerned about it.
And now he doesn't want to talk about it.
He just hopes that Jesus is going to win.
So he doesn't want to go there.
Now the next client, this guy, this is bad.
His business is being told that in order to stay in business, I won't get him in trouble, but in order to stay in business, he has to vaccinate everybody.
In order for him to stay in business, he has to provide proof that everybody on his team is being vaccinated.
Wait, who's demanding this?
The state?
This would be, in order to keep the jobs working in the industry they're in, they're saying that everybody who works, who's a vendor for this particular business, has to be vaccinated.
Okay.
And he knows what's in the vaccines, and he knows they're called luciferase.
He knows they're RNA-modifying.
He knows they're terrible.
He's the kind of guy that actually looked into AstraZeneca and looked into all the different brands that are being rolled out, and he is horrified.
Well, hold on.
Does he have to vaccinate people if the vaccines are not really vaccines?
Because, you know, they're not.
These mRNA things, they are not vaccines.
They do not contain weakened pathogens.
They are, I've heard it described as gene therapy.
You know, they hijack...
He agrees with you, and I agree with you, and we all agree with you.
The issue he has, this is where we're at, and I will give you an example.
This is my next client.
It's a true story.
This particular guy, again, I'm trying to speak in vaguer, so I don't want to get people in trouble through connections to me.
He's in the medical industry, and he was told today by the hospital in whatever state he's in, he doesn't have a job unless he takes the vaccine today.
Yeah, that's common in hospitals, yes.
And this guy's very respected, a little bit older than me, no previous violations, following all the mask mandates, thinks they're stupid, knows they're bad for people, and so he cried today.
That was our meeting.
Our meeting was just crying on the phone.
There was no coaching.
There was no...
It was nothing.
So he wanted to know if his wife could maybe get a job working with me or doing something.
But there was no tip.
It was just...
What about this tip?
And I don't know if this is the same threshold.
I mean, does the hospital have to physically administer it?
Or can he bring a letter from a physician saying that that physician's office administered the vaccine?
Mike, have you covered that?
Well, to some degree, but also our more entrepreneurial listeners have suggested topical applications that would destroy the mRNA strands after they're injected.
So you could...
I would just say I... Also, Clay, is there any chance that he could go get an antibody test if he has COVID? If he doesn't have COVID, go get COVID, for goodness sake, so he gets the antibodies.
Yeah, exactly.
Show the antibodies.
Well, you're not looking at logic anymore.
I want to make sure listeners understand this.
This has been very important.
I do not know Sidney Powell, but I know Lin Wood very well, okay?
And if anybody watching right now will just text the word truth to that number I gave you earlier, when you text the word truth to that, I'll provide this to you and you can see it, but this is important for people to know, okay?
This is a very respected attorney, and she took a year out of her life and prepared a 270-page report that is absolutely spot-on that documents the following four things that are true.
One, when you and I went to vote, many people voted on the Dominion Election Machines.
Dominion Election Machines, they are a Canadian company that shares office space with George Soros in Toronto.
They're filled with Chinese parts.
Step two, the software called Sequoia Smartmatic...
That software was founded by communists from Venezuela.
The votes this year, step three, they were beamed to Frankfurt, Germany, somehow interacting with the Italian satellites.
And then, step four, the votes could be switched because that's a feature that Eric Coomer, the Director of Strategy and Security for Dominion, the Director of Strategy and Security for Dominion, It's an outspoken member of Antifa, and they can switch the votes.
So we are now in this weird zone right now where I, every single day, I want to keep it very, very positive.
But I am also telling you, I am talking to a man in his 50s who calls me, and he says, What's up?
And I said, Are you okay?
Because you can tell when someone's...
And I said, What's going on?
He goes, I can't do the meeting today.
I got a...
And he just couldn't talk.
And I said, What do you mean?
And he said, I... They're going to make me do a vaccine, bro.
And he couldn't talk.
I spent 30 minutes.
I went out to my freaking car to cry in my car because this is a guy who's going to lose his job because he doesn't want to get a vaccine.
And they're not willing to talk to him.
It's not cute.
It's not funny.
There's not a hack.
There's nothing he can do.
And you want to say, you're crazy?
Let's talk about this, okay?
I come from a German ancestry.
That's my background.
I apologize.
Our family lineage started two wars.
There's only been two world wars.
This might be the third one.
But I remember talking to my grandpa.
Grandpa, how did we get to a place where the Jews, Jewish people, great people, were put in concentration camps?
And he says, well, you know, in 1933, Hitler used the pandemic...
The pandemic.
Folks, look it up.
This is the type of New York Post, 1933.
Influenza pandemic-fueled rise of Nazi Party research shows.
He would tell me the story.
And he'd say, people thought they were going away to a quarantine camp.
That's why it says in Auschwitz, welcome to the Auschwitz quarantine camp.
And he says, and people who don't know history, it'll happen again.
They'll joke about it.
They'll make light about it.
It'll happen again.
And I remember just going, what?
Because I'm like 12.
Going, they were quarantine camps?
He goes, how do you think they got all the people in there?
You know, Adolf Hitler said, he said, if you tell a lie often enough, people will believe it's true.
And that's what's happening.
And so the key, what we could do is we could watch the voice and pretend like it's not happening.
We could travel.
We could do that.
So we can't.
Or we could face the reality that everybody says, oh, we'll just do this.
I'll just wear a mask to go along, get along.
I just won't travel.
I'm just going to...
And then we just had Ian Smith on the show.
My friend Ian Smith, the gym owner from New Jersey, who's been on Tucker Carlson.
I talked to Ian.
Ian's a Viking.
He's a great guy.
Great guy.
Ian, they took $173,000 out of his bank account.
Who's they?
The health department.
Why?
He's guilty of committing the sin of feeding his family.
I talked to another doctor this week, another doctor, who didn't want me to share anything about him other than this is the fact.
He calls me and says, hey, I heard your show with Ian Smith.
Is it true they took all of his money?
Yes.
I saw it on Tucker, but you know Fox.
I can't trust him.
I like you, though.
Did they take his money?
I said, yeah.
He goes, they took all mine, too.
So what'd you do?
He says, I'm out here in Oregon using Budesonite.
I lost everything.
He's like, but I don't want to say anything because I don't want to die.
It's a fact.
So you're only hearing the stories about the people that are willing to hop on these shows.
I think it's less scary now to say something.
Then, later, once the Great Reset happens.
And the Great Reset's a PDF that I've had access to and many of your listeners.
If you text me right now, folks, I'll give you a copy of the Great Reset.
And that Great Reset, if you text me right now, text the word TRUTH to 918-552-5142.
918-552-5142.
It's called the Rockefeller Plan.
It's been around.
So you touch on some really important issues there.
And also, I think that gym owner, didn't they also fine him over $1.7 million or something on top?
It's interesting.
They said, I'm paraphrasing because I wasn't there.
It's if you have a problem with the COVID-19 restrictions, then you need to just deal with it and follow everything to the letter of the law.
So he says, okay, he takes all of the weight equipment outside every day and works out.
Right.
Then they say, because they didn't think anyone would ever do that.
They doubt the American spirit.
So they say, well, now you have to be shut down.
So he shuts down for a couple weeks.
And then he's like, I can't pay the bills.
So he opens, and they say, we're going to fine you.
But essentially, you don't owe us the fines unless you lose the case.
So it's just theoretical fines at this point.
It's scary, but they're not real.
So he starts a legal defense fund.
Thousands of great Americans find Ian Smith in his gym, and they find the story, and they donate.
And then one day, again, you'd have to talk to Ian directly to get all the details, but you go to the bank, you check your balance, you deposit.
I mean, wouldn't you agree, as an owner of a bank, you should check your balance.
I have an app, I check it every 37 seconds.
So you look, and when you check, he looks and there's nothing there.
Imagine the feeling of that.
And so what's happening is doctors are losing their jobs.
Lindsay, who we had on the show, Z and I, we interviewed her.
She lost her job and the police showed up at her house For sharing that the cases had been inflated and that people were misattributing death certificates.
She was sharing what she saw in front of her, that proven treatments were being denied.
She lost her job.
Honorable career.
No arrests.
No criminal violation.
And it's happening.
But the problem is, for every ten people that it happens to, maybe...
I don't know.
Every 50 it happens to, maybe one will say something.
And this doctor I talked to is super afraid to even tell the listeners that he lost his medical license, not because he's ashamed he lost it, but he doesn't want them to come after him physically.
Well, we've seen this...
Destinide, ivermectin, and hydroxychloroquine.
So this fascism is coming down upon society.
It's a medical police state, but it also kind of makes the case to, wherever you can, stop participating in the fake...
I know we all have to have operating cash flow for businesses, but if you take the excess and let's say buy gold bars and then you put your gold bars at home and me being in Texas, we put the gold bars behind the AR-15s and we say come and take it.
We don't let the bureaucrats just remotely behind a veil take everything.
We're like, no, you want to take everything.
You come and take it from our castle.
Maybe that's a Texas thing, but we have to get out of their control systems into other alternative forms of value and maybe cryptocurrency and decentralization so that we cannot just have everything deplatformed all at once by bureaucrats.
I talked to a guy this week who is a nice guy who likes our show, who is a former military.
And it's so funny that you mentioned fiat.
Because I don't think, I mean, I would ever, I never would have imagined that we would be doing a show where we're talking about fiat currency, currency via decree.
I never thought we would do a show about how the Federal Reserve isn't federal and there's no reserve.
I never thought I would be going there, but that's a fact.
But he says, is there any way, and he's asking all these ways he can pay me.
And I'm going, well, just debit card or credit card.
He goes, oh, I don't do anything in USD. I'm going, USD? He says, no, I don't do US dollars.
No, I'm serious.
And I was like, this guy's a rational person, and he's wanting to Bitcoin the thing or send it over.
But he said, I never do USD. And I'm going, I've never heard someone say it.
And he goes, you still do business in USD? I would think you wouldn't.
And I'm hearing more and more people who are saying they're not doing business in U.S. dollars.
I don't have the whole system figured out.
I'm not going to hop on here and show my ignorance and try to explain that I know all the steps.
But that's the first time I talk to somebody who never deals with U.S. currency.
Yeah, well, it's ounces of gold and ounces of silver or ounces of lead in the form of barter ammo.
Again, maybe I'm citing Texas again.
And even if you're describing gold and silver in defining it by the U.S. dollar, that's nonsense.
Gold holds the value of gold.
The dollar is what's fluctuating up and down and basically losing value every day.
You're getting looted by the money printing.
And by the way, Biden's going to churn out trillions upon trillions.
If you thought Trump was spending money, wait for Biden to get that cranked up.
He's going to hand out cash to all the Democrats to bail out their failing cities and states.
So basically, taxpayers in rural America, the real working people...
Like the people you have in your office there, let's say, are going to be bailing out poorly run, corrupt Democrat cities and states using just looting by the government.
But the taxpayers have the burden long term.
That's where this is going.
I know this isn't a viable strategy, but I'm going to share this with somebody out there that needs to hear this.
Either God is real or he isn't.
And there was a time where in Exodus, chapter 14, verse 3 through 20, read that portion, folks, but where the people, the Israelites, get to the sea.
They're at the edge of the sea, and they're going, this is not a good plan.
The water's right here.
The Egyptians are right there.
I don't know whether this was a good idea.
I can see Pharaoh over there.
And they start to notify their leadership.
They're like, perhaps we don't have a plan.
Now, my understanding is God parted the sea, They escaped, and then the water came in and killed the Egyptians.
And I've always thought, that's a cool story.
You know, like Braveheart or Shawshank Redemption.
I've always thought, that's a cool story.
And I've always believed the Bible is real.
It's a real thing.
Kind of.
Being honest with you.
I always thought it was real, kind of.
Until this year.
Where now it is like everything that was foretold thousands of years ago by homeboys and homegirls who sat down and wrote down the words that were inspired by God, they're happening.
And so I am just saying this to your listeners out there.
God has to do something right now, because a lot of people that were given the power, I mean, I'm telling you, on November 9th, when Christopher Miller was given the appointment as the Secretary of Defense, I thought, yes!
That's right!
When Ezra Cohen was given the power to be his right-hand man, I thought, yes!
When we put an actual person who loves our country in charge of FEMA, a 26-year veteran who's in charge of FEMA, I thought, yes!
And I was excited!
And now I sit here and I'm on the boat.
I see Niagara right there.
And I'm still, this is my analogy I go back to, I think we're on a boat where we're about ready to head off the waterfall.
And there's still people on the boat who don't believe we're on a boat or that there is a waterfall, despite the fact they can see it.
And so God's going to have to show off and show up, as He often does.
And God did it in such a profound way with the Israelites.
They wrote a book about it, and we still talk about it today.
So I do believe it's going to work out.
But when you start hearing me talk about the Jesus theory, you know that all practical theories have been exhausted because I'm a very practical, literal, highly researched kind of guy.
Okay.
All right.
Well, we're going to have to wrap it up there, Clay, because we're out of time today.
Suddenly, it's gone.
But this has been fascinating, and we must continue this conversation, especially as the year continues here.
It's going to get, well, as we go over that waterfall, it's going to get pretty crazy.
So we want to hear your thoughts later on.
But just say thank you for joining me today.
It's been fascinating.
Much more to come.
Thank you.
And I just want to say this to your listeners there.
We vote with our dollars.
And I don't make a commission to say this, but if people go to your website, brighteon.com, where they're probably watching this right now, you've created a platform, a safe place, a sanctuary for people to share videos and not be censored.
And I know of thousands of people I've personally spoken to have told me they get all their information from your platform.
And if you're listening right now, I would ask you, are you on Rumble or are you on YouTube?
Are you still ordering stuff from Amazon that funded the models that said 2.2 million people would die?
Are you on YouTube or are you on Brideon?
We've got to vote with our dollars.
It's so imperative we have to vote with our dollars.
And then we have to pray without ceasing.
That's what Ephesians says.
Pray without ceasing.
Turns out that's a lot of time.
But we need to pray because Jesus has a plan.
I don't know what it is.
But we've got to pray.
And I'm telling you what, I'm going to be telling my kids' kids' kids about that if I'm alive to see it.
And they'll be telling their kids because God's going to show up and show off.
We need the Jesus plan.
And I would add that we vote with our attention.
So wherever you put your attention, folks, that's what tends to grow.
That's what you're supporting.
So if you're putting your attention on alternative platforms, and I would say Parler's going to come back as well.
Gab is out there as well.
Brighton is just one of many.
Use them all.
But shift your attention away from those tech giants that are actually exploiting your attention in order to profit off of you.
I mean, look at this trading platform, Robinhood.
Robinhood is supposed to be a free, I guess it's a free platform.
A lot of younger people are trading on Robinhood.
But Robinhood is, of course, aggregating their data, and I suspect selling that data in real time in milliseconds to other companies that are exploiting that data for their own profits.
Right?
So you are the product.
Unbelievable.
Again, thank you for all the work you do.
And my kids and I, my wife and I, we really do appreciate your funny, knowledgeable voice.
We love your optimism.
We love the truth.
And we do sincerely listen to your show almost every single day.
So it really is an honor to be here with you on your show.
Well, thank you, Clark.
Have a great day.
We'll talk again soon.
Be well and stay in the boat.
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