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May 5, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Kristen Meghan reveals the BIG MASK LIE being pushed by Fauci and the media
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Welcome everybody to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, the YouTube alternative for free speech videos.
And today we have a champion of free speech joining us and also a senior industrial hygienist.
Her name is Kristen Megan.
She's part of Real Deal Media with Dean Ryan.
It's realdealmedia.com.
And she has a lot of very special knowledge about personal protective equipment, transmission of pathogens in We're going to talk to her today and ask her questions like, how many masks should we be wearing?
Like 20?
What's going on?
So anyway, Kristen, welcome to the show.
It's great to have you on.
Well, thank you so much for having me, Mike.
Well, it's really great to join.
This is the first time we've been able to do an interview like this, and I was able to be with you on another video.
I found out that you know so much about this topic, so I just had to invite you on.
Where do we even begin?
How about this?
First, tell our audience, what is a senior industrial hygienist?
What's your background?
All right.
Well, what a senior industrial hygienist is not is I'm not a janitor, nor do I clean teeth.
That's what people assume when you hear hygienist.
So the practice of industrial hygiene is actually just anticipating, recognizing, evaluating, and controlling health hazards and making sure that those health hazards are controlled in the workplace so that they don't impact the environment.
So basically, I have worked in the field of environmental and occupational toxicology now for March will be 19 years.
Yeah, so I spent nine years on active duty getting into this field.
And after that, for four years, I worked for the federal government, a couple private companies, and now I'm a consultant and semi-retired.
And I never, ever thought that my career field would definitely intertwine with everything that's been going on this past year.
I thought I would be taking it easy, but definitely not.
Wow.
Okay, that's an interesting background.
So you were with the military, then you worked for the government, and then now what corporations or hospitals hire you to come in and tell them where they might have hazardous exposure for their employees or what?
Exactly, yes.
As a consultant.
So it can be in a medical field, it can be in a construction site, an industrial work site.
I'd say, though, mostly over the past 18 months, it's been in healthcare, and I've actually done a lot, too, with the Flint water crisis, which I'm sure everyone is aware of.
So I do environmental and occupational type of toxicology.
Oh wow, okay.
So you have a good science-based understanding of different types of exposure.
Heavy metals, for example, or contact poisons, respiratory inhalants, as well as microbiological or virology.
What about radiological threats as well?
Yeah, actually, I'm certified in radiation safety.
I first started getting into it.
I worked in a field in the Air Force called bio-environmental engineering.
And then when I left the Air Force and I worked at a large hospital, I got certified in radiation safety and laser safety.
So, yeah, it's an aspect of my career field.
It's very hard to explain my career field because it branches out into so many different realms, including public health.
Okay, that's fascinating.
So over the last year, when the radical left was shining those green lasers, I think 532 nanometer wavelength lasers into the eyes of law enforcement, you must have gone, whoa, that's crazy.
That can cause permanent damage.
Yeah, I mean, that's like basic radiation safety.
You know, you never stare into any class laser.
It's just, unless it's for surgical purposes, you don't look directly into any sort of laser.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think some of those are like class 4 lasers too, which can really cause optical damage.
Pretty quickly.
Okay, so then when you started seeing the whole COVID pandemic craziness happening a year ago, roughly, what did you think when first Surgeon General Adams at the time was saying, don't wear masks, and then Fauci would say, everybody wear masks, and then the media was like, no, don't wear masks, and then they were like, everybody wear, and now it's two masks and three masks.
What was going through your mind as an industrial hygienist?
Well, I'm sure you're very versed in the type of horrible management we have here in Michigan.
We have Governor Whitmer.
Oh my.
And I started to kind of sense, even at the federal level, hearing, like you said, Fauci and our Surgeon General speaking of it, I could see that our governor was getting ready to push it.
And I actually thought, there's no way.
There's just no way because I think it's important for your listeners to understand that in my career field, whether I'm embedded in a place of employment or a contractor or a consultant, prior to COVID, if I ever put a general populace or an average layperson even pushing paper in respiratory protection...
Without following OSHA law, I literally could be put in jail.
I would definitely be fined and I would be fired.
I could probably have some of my credentials revoked that I have with OSHA. So I just couldn't concede that this would be a thing.
Absolutely not.
I thought, you know, here we have been making fun of foreign countries that have made this into fashion statements.
There's no way this would happen here in the United States.
Well, boy, was I wrong.
Yeah, it did happen.
And then it became this crazy thing where everybody had to obey the The latest insanity of the so-called experts, the Dr.
Fauci's and the Dr.
Birx's of the world, but they kept changing their views constantly.
Well, the thing is, is they push this narrative of you comply or you will die.
And I just posted a video actually on your Bright Town site about it.
I've always said that these health agencies in the government have like Munchausen syndrome by proxy, you know.
They wanted to guilt us and make us believe that we could not survive and we can't progress as a human, you know, a society.
We can't do anything if we're not all doing our part, you know, like the greater good.
And what that did is it pushed people into a fear.
And like you said, we're getting this information from people that flip-flop.
And if they had any other sort of employment, for example, Dr.
Fauci, I mean, he's the highest paid official in government from what I hear.
And I mean, if he was a contract spot in a hospital, he'd be gone.
You can't flip-flop like this because you're not just harming human health.
It's a huge financial impact.
When you give the wrong recommendations when it comes to PPE, it has major adverse reactions.
And straight from the horse's mouth, like he said, you have unintended consequences.
And you're familiar with accreditation and on-site audits.
I mean, you probably conduct some of those.
Joint Commission, you name it.
Right.
And we are too.
Our laboratory is ISO accredited, audited, inspected annually.
I'm a lead auditor of ISO. Okay, so there you go.
And our warehouse is GMP compliant with the FDA, good manufacturing practices, you know, USDA compliant, audited, inspected annually, state of Texas audited, inspected annually, FDA surprise showing up.
Oh, here, let's sample your food.
So we go through all that too.
And yet, and yet, These government people and media people and big tech people and Bill Gates type people who isn't a doctor, he's a tech guy, they were just, pardon my language, making shit up constantly and they had no underlying standard.
Because all of these things I just mentioned, there are underlying standards.
There's reference documents, right?
There's a whole history.
There's a committee that comes up with the standards.
They had no standards.
What it really is, is it is opinion pieces that have come forward for people to feel cool.
I know that sounds very dumb and plain, but what it was is it's kind of like some people thrive off of adverse things.
It's no different than people that work in emergency responses.
Not that you want anyone to get harmed, but it's like you kind of get this adrenaline rush when you're responding to an emergency.
And that's it.
These people wanted to be a part of something.
So what they did is they band together and pushed out a bunch of opinion pieces.
And like you said, they're not law.
They're not RCT studies.
And this is what's literally blown my mind in the minds of many other IHs and environmental health and safety professionals is how in the world are we citing opinion pieces instead of standards, laws, and science that has existed on the books since 1979?
So how has this affected your belief in the rigorous nature of science or science-minded thinking?
I mean, because it's got to be mind-blowing to think that all of this is being done in the name of science now.
What it's done is it's made me kind of wonder – I'm almost 39 and I wonder...
What else has happened before my time to where the government and health organizations had said one thing and then completely negated everything they knew and said another and then went back and forth?
I wonder what has happened before my time.
You know, it's no different.
Just how insane is it if all of a sudden everything we know about asbestos, all of a sudden a year from now they're like, everyone needs asbestos in their homes.
You know, it's the most fire and fire and insulation.
We know that it goes against everything we know or if doctors started promoting against cigarettes.
I mean...
I can't really tell you, Mike, where my head is at because I'm very talkative.
I'm really speechless.
Some of these actions I just sit with my jaw on the floor because I'm like, where's everyone else?
Where's everyone else?
How is this allowed to happen?
And what it does for me is it scares the living hell out of me because it's got the general...
Populists who believe everything a doctor says.
If you are a doctor or you're a white coat, everything you say is believed, even if it's out of your realm of credentials and your scope of work.
And that is scary.
That is so scary.
Yeah, because the whole idea of rational science or evidence-based reality was supposed to be that that was an anchor that we could fall back on even peer-reviewed science, confirmatory experimental science, That we could say, okay, now we have some objective basis of reality, and that's what the science journals publish, right?
But then it turns out the science journals publish total made-up propaganda, the Lancet with that piece that tried to destroy hydroxychloroquine, for example, and then they had to retract it later when it turned out all the data were just totally fabricated.
Yep.
So they're not even science journals anymore.
They're junk rag, just fiction rags pretending to be science journals.
And the same thing is true with the WHO, the CDC, the FDA. I mean, they're just clowns.
They mock themselves every time they speak.
It's incredible.
Well, I will give you a perfect example of why people should be questioning science.
Why so many people, like for example, Mike, I'm so grateful that you're allowing me to speak with you.
I know you're not one to censor, but a couple other media outlets have allowed me to speak out on this, but of course I'm being ignored by mainstream media.
The problem is, in a court of law, okay, in a court of law, let's say you're disabled and you could not wear a mask.
I'm one of those people.
I have an exemption.
I've had it for, oh my gosh, 10 years.
If you went to court to sue your employer because of discrimination, do you know that all these people that are now speaking out about masks, Dr.
Fauci, Surgeon General, doctors, they would not be deemed as court subject matter experts or expert witnesses to talk about the PPE? Because there's actually law on the books.
And under anything that has to do with OSHA law or disability law tied to PPE or anything like that, there is a list of people and professions that can speak out.
Now, you might be a doctor who also happens to be an industrial hygienist.
It's very rare.
But that is what I tell people.
They tell me, well, the doctors say, and I'm like, that's fine, but in a court of law.
When my credentials are looked at and a doctor's credentials are looked at, they can ask the doctor about health-related impacts of something, but not about the proper or improper selection of PPE and its limitations.
That is definitely my area of expertise.
I am not the only IH in the world, but that is our realm of expertise.
If you just look up DuckDuckGo, anything involving a pandemic or respiratory protection, my career field will come up as the experts on this issue.
Yeah, okay.
Well, that makes perfect sense.
Many doctors, especially GPs, they are general practitioners.
They're generalists.
And for the most part, a lot of them are just sort of elaborate big pharma vending machines.
It's like, oh, you have that symptom?
Let's see.
Let's check the list.
Here's the drug that's going to be pushed for that symptom.
That's it.
See you later.
And frankly, they're going to be replaced by robots because that's not a complicated action.
But Let me ask you this then, and this is one more reason why I really appreciate you being on and having the experience that you do.
Now, we've talked about how the establishment and the so-called authoritative voices are completely full of crap when it comes to this, for the most part.
Then on the other end of the spectrum, something that we've seen, a phenomenon across independent media, and I'm not going to name names.
I'm not trying to embarrass anybody.
But there's an increasing narrative that says there are no such thing as viruses, that they do not exist, or if they did exist, it's incapable of infecting a human being.
Now, we've heard these kinds of things, which have blown my mind, because I'm like, whoa, did we just go back 500 years here, or what?
But what do you say to that, or how do you handle that?
Because there are people out there who say there are no viruses, period, that they don't exist at all.
How do you handle that?
Yeah, you know, I've studied germ theory myself.
I'm familiar with it.
But this is what you won't hear from other people, is that I can sit here and tell you, I'm not a virologist.
I have not dedicated my entire career to...
I'm researching whether or not viruses are real.
What I do know with researching is that we have been unable to actually isolate specific viruses, but that's not to say it can't be human-to-human transmitting.
So I'll be the first to tell you, that's not my area of expertise, is on whether or not that's true.
I've seen both sides of the argument, but again, I leave that up to the people who research it, and I stay in my lane, unlike the other professionals.
Yeah, I get it.
But just to challenge you on that a little more, your area of expertise has to be also preventing the transmission of viruses.
So in order to do that, you must have some pretty in-depth understanding of how viruses, especially respiratory viruses, may be transmitted between people because that's necessary for you to do your job.
So how does that play?
I mean...
You know, clearly, well, no, go ahead and answer that question or comment.
Yeah, I definitely have studied how biological agents, chemical agents, radiological agents, viral agents, I have trained for pandemics my entire career.
So yes, I do study it, but then again, I also am objective to know that What you learn in a classroom, you know, you only learn based on who wrote that book, right?
So that's why even though you have degrees, I have four degrees, it's important to understand that you research outside of the box.
And I can tell you that 90% of what I know is things I've learned in the field.
So that magic piece of paper isn't why I know what I know.
It's because I've worked in so many different industries.
But again, plotting, a big aspect of my career field is understanding We're good to go.
But would you like to look at my textbooks?
Because studying the movement air is huge.
And the reason I bring that up is because in my career field, you have to know about routes of entry.
See, something that's dangerous through absorption may not be the same when you ingest it and vice versa.
You know, inhaling something is different.
But...
A huge, huge aspect of my career has been managing OSHA's Respiratory Protection Program for over 76,000 people.
That's a lot of people.
So I have to know what the hazard is, and I have to know...
I just want to point this out, too.
In my career field, yes, we all know about PPE and respirators and masks, but what no one's talking about is that the law states under...
When I say law, I mean OSHA law.
Because yes, this is more an occupational setting, but the science is a science whether you're at work or at home.
You have to first follow something called the hierarchy of safety and controls, meaning like we can't get rid of COVID. So your next step would be, can you engineer it out?
And if you can't engineer it out, can you put administrative controls in place?
So some examples would be when you go to the grocery store and you see the plexiglass barrier between you and the checkout person, that's an engineering control.
And an administrative control would be social distancing or changing your work hours or your worker rotations.
That's administrative.
Last resort.
The absolute last resort is that personal protective equipment.
But what our government did is we skipped all of that and we jumped straight into putting people in masks.
What I found very ironic is literally the next day after Biden was in office, they started talking about how if restaurants are going to open, they should really look into engineering controls and how they can increase their air exchange rates.
And I'm like, Welcome.
Welcome to my career.
Why haven't we done this since last March?
So everything is backwards, and I expect nothing less from the government.
I can just tell you that one.
So let's talk about air movement.
Since you brought that up, it's really intriguing.
Now, there are, well, I guess I'm asking you to confirm or deny this, but aren't there HEPA-rated air filters that do trap viruses?
Yes.
It's called a combo filter.
In order to do that, see, most common would be, it's called a 3M7800 series full-face respirator.
You can have HEPA filters on there, but based upon the specific type of virus, because not all viruses have the exact same micron size.
Well, I'm sorry, I meant like in a restaurant, like their HVAC system maybe could be retrofitted.
In an HVAC system?
Yes.
There are special filters that include a HEPA filtration system, but also just increasing your air exchanges, getting the air to move, because when you move air, then things that would normally settle can't settle if you're constantly moving it.
So it stays above your breathing zone, and that's a huge keyword in my career field is breathing zone.
I see.
And that's just to interject when you've seen people test with a pulse oximeter about oxygen deprivation in masks or Dell Big Tree with a four gas meter.
See, everyone wants to say which test is right or wrong.
And I'm over here like, could just ask an industrial hygienist because you must test in the breathing zone because it's not what's happening after the fact.
You must test what is happening at the source.
And that's the only way you can assess a hazard.
So some people have been doing it right, but many have been doing it wrong.
And the people that have been doing it wrong are the healthcare workers, unfortunately.
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I've had questions about the mask tests that people are doing.
And people are showing, I think I've seen some videos where people are showing that somehow they have higher levels of CO2 in their bodies.
Is that just because they're rebreathing the volume of air that's in the mask itself?
Is that why or what's going on?
Yeah, so what happens is, we'll just use an N95, for example.
If I put a healthcare worker in an N95 respirator, it's a respirator.
The average wear time is no longer than five hours, but no longer than eight hours.
And the reason is, is because when you exhale, you are providing moisture in the mask that can block the proper gaseous exchanges.
And when you sit there and you can't rid your body of the toxins that are within, yes, you can breathe back in because it's hitting that barrier in the mask and it's just bouncing back in.
Now, everyone says you can get hypoxia.
It's not as common as people think.
And that's where I'm sitting out here trying to fight the disinformation.
Yes, it provides oxygen deprivation issues.
but it's not like it's gonna lay you out in 30 minutes.
What happens is it's the prolonged constant deprivation of oxygen on a regular basis.
And now remember, we've been in these masks for what, eight months now?
Eight, nine months?
Over time, that constant decrease in oxygen can impact renal function.
Brain development in children.
Again, I'm not a doctor, but I work with a lot of doctors.
And actually, I was down in Miami with Dr.
Larry Polevsky.
I don't know if you know who that is.
He's very outspoken.
He's an ER doc and pediatrician.
And we spoke together at a private event, and I learned a lot from him.
And he explained this too.
Now, I already know this, but again, I never act outside of my scope.
And I'll always cite my sources because I don't ever want to be accused of...
Acting outside of my area of expertise.
That's very important to me.
But yes, I have to know all the hazards associated with prolonged mask wearing.
And the reason I know all this is because in the workplace, you cannot just be told that you must wear a respirator.
To do so, you need medical clearance.
You fill out a questionnaire.
I look at the questionnaire.
If there's any indicators on there, I'll just share some with you.
Someone who has a history of asthma, bronchitis, cancer, stroke...
Claustrophobia, PTSD, even increased seasonal allergy issues.
Those are flags and I will check that off and I send them over to an occupational health doctor.
And that doctor will look at, okay, what are you going to wear this for and when?
What environments?
What heat?
What load of work are you doing?
And they will either stamp denial or approval.
And people get denied all the time.
I've been denied from wearing a respirator since 2012.
And it's just insane to me that so many people, especially physicians, will come out and say, there's not reasons for people not to wear a mask unless they have a neurological disorder and can't put it on themselves.
That is not how it works at all.
So that's pretty wild, Chris.
It seems like what you're saying there, I want to focus on the chronic oxygen deprivation issue, especially as it comes to the developmental years of childhood.
I don't know if you've spoken about this, but doesn't that mean, couldn't a child's cognitive development be impaired through chronic deprivation of oxygen?
Absolutely.
And what's very scary about it is it's not reversible.
Um, we all know that children, I'm a mom of two daughters with an 11 year gap.
So I've dealt with two different personalities and you have to, as a parent, understand when your kids do things that are crazy and you're like, why didn't you know that this is bad?
The problem is, is that children's brains develop at different rates and you have the front brain, which controls certain aspects of decision-making.
Then you have the rear brain.
And when you deprive the body of continuous repetitive oxygen deprivation, when you do that, you're impeding the ability for that brain to properly develop.
I mean, if people understand basic science, you rely on oxygen.
Remember hemoglobin looks like the old singular icon?
Remember singular font?
The hemoglobin goes around and it moves things around your body.
And when you are impeding that, it's like a domino effect.
You know, you blow out a tire in your car, then your axle's off, just like your body issues.
You know, when one thing is off, it's like it pings off.
So when you are disrupting, and this is important to note, that even if people say, oh, I've been wearing a mask for this many years, I work in healthcare, you're acclimatized to it.
acclimatized.
This 300 pound person who lays cement is not acclimatized.
The eight year old child wearing it for eight hours a day in school is not acclimatized.
And that repetitive disruption in the proper gaseous exchanges, that is the key, can cause And what's really upsetting to me is when I see people normalize other issues that are not respiratory, like the maskne, which is actually perioral dermatitis.
Just so people understand, if you're being forced to wear a mask or respirator at work and you get perioral dermatitis and you get any treatment beyond first aid...
That's an OSHA recordable.
And you have rights.
And I'm not asking anyone to fake these issues, but a lot of people are having adverse reactions.
The number one complaint that I hear from people, I don't know what type of services you have where you live, but we have ship shopping here where people get your groceries and deliver it.
When this mask mandate first came out in the summer, they were dropping like flies.
These young, frail women loading groceries in the heat in these masks that have never worn them.
They were falling out at work.
Did anyone report that as an OSHA recordable?
No, because they're not trained on it.
This is a bigger issue, is that you have people that work administrative jobs and they've never had to deal with these types of rules and regulation or understand the science.
They are being strong-armed into...
For conceding to these OSHA violations, for not understanding what they're supposed to do.
And again, I'll just reiterate, what we're doing now, a year ago, is completely illegal.
And actually, Mike, right before the mask mandate came through, there was an at-home, like an adjunct home health aid organization that put their staff in N95s because they thought they were doing the right thing.
And did you know that OSHA cited them for about $35,000 for not having a written respiratory protection program?
But then two weeks later, it was a mandate.
Okay.
All right.
Fascinating.
So What you're also describing here is this nationwide abandonment of scientific principles as everybody's just rushing to get into mass and things like that.
But isn't it also a principle of your training?
I mean, I would imagine it would be that the The severity of the risk helps determine the actions that are put in place.
So for a very, very low risk contaminant, let's say, that has very low risk of harm to a person, you wouldn't bring the same wild interventions into that scenario as you would an extremely high risk, like a chemical weapon or something that could kill on contact, right?
I mean, the risk It has to be part of the assessment of how aggressively you respond, correct?
Yeah, you make an excellent point and what you're describing is required by law and it's called a health risk assessment.
Meaning that you cannot just put blanket standards across all places of employment, every single place of employment.
Even if it's a company that has 10 buildings, each building has to conduct a health risk assessment because they're all different.
And what's really important for people to understand is there is something called a consensus standard.
And I don't know if you've ever heard running a lab of ASHRAE standards.
But ASHRAE standards are basically heating and cooling and architectural engineering type standards to where I'll just give surgical suites an example.
In a surgical suite, I have to go in...
I don't do bones very well and I have to sit there through autopsies or surgeries and I have to test the air and I have to make sure that there are proper air exchanges per hour, proper humidity levels, RH levels, which is, you know, relative humidity and oxygen and CO2 or I have I have to make sure that the air inside of surgical suites are way different than the outside ambient air because of anesthetic gases in the room.
I have to make sure that there's not an issue because sometimes if you're using lasers, you know, you don't want like an arc flash and you don't want, you know, the surgical ward to explode.
So these, I have a very behind the scenes job, but yes, health risk assessment.
Nothing is ever, ever one size fits all when you're talking about controlling health hazards.
It's not, it never has, and it never will be.
Did you, you know, patients sometimes, off gas, crazy things, I'm not just talking about flatulence, I'm talking about weird chemical reactions.
There was a case a few years ago where I think a patient was being brought into an emergency ward and a couple of nurses actually lost consciousness from breathing air around that patient.
Have you ever heard of anything crazy like that?
Because that actually happened, I'd have to go back and look for it, but that happened.
Have you heard that before?
Actually, yes.
I had a situation, and I can't get into detail because of HIPAA, but I can't even say where it was.
It was a certain hospital I had worked at, and there was somebody that came in for gastric bypass, and because of their diet, they had VOCs inside of their intestine, volatile organic compounds.
That we're actually increasing the flashpoint in the room.
Wow.
The GI internist could not believe that it did not eat through the stomach lining.
And it was so bad, we had to put actual capture ventilation at the source.
Meaning when they were doing the gastric bypass, they had to put in an HVAC hose to take out the air directly out of the surgical room.
That's crazy.
Okay.
All right.
So there's also, I know this is getting a little bit off topic, but have you heard historically cases of what's called spontaneous combustion of people?
Oh, I've heard of it.
I've never experienced it.
I mean, I think I would have left my career field.
Yeah.
Well, it's been documented in old news stories where people burst into flames, sometimes just in the privacy of their own home.
And you may be explaining how that could possibly happen if you have a high concentration of VOCs that are combustible and then, I don't know, somehow something reaches a flashpoint internally.
Someone could burn up from the inside.
I know it's off topic, but weird things happen in this world.
Yeah.
Medical anomalies occur every single day.
Again, that's exactly why nothing is one-size-fits-all.
Yeah, good point.
So they're trying to slap masks on everybody, but like you say, it's not a one-size-fits-all situation.
What do you think are the long-term health and even...
I mean, you're not a psychiatrist, so I can't ask you about the psychiatric implications, but just in terms of...
It's actually an aspect of my career field.
I have to understand how everything impacts the human body, so...
All right.
So what I'm wondering is long-term, if they continue to force these masks on people for the next few years, where do we end up as a society mentally and physically?
I think that, of course, I know it's an iffy topic.
I think that we're grooming our youth to involuntary consent to things that they know are abnormal or wrong.
And I fear that our youth are going to be pressured and groomed to do things that they don't consent to in the future, whether it be illegal activity or sexual things.
Um, But also, I think for people our age, I think we're scared.
We're scared to be publicly shamed.
I think that's a major issue.
Some people are brave and just don't wear these stupid face diapers in the first place.
I can't wear one medically, but I wouldn't wear one anyway.
But not everyone is strong like us, and it really makes them cower.
It makes them just give in, and I think it just makes people scared to go out because of that comply or die aspect.
And some people personally already experience the adverse reactions.
The number one issue with prolonged mask wearing is people say they're tired, they're yawning, and they complain of headaches.
That is the telltale first sign of oxygen deprivation.
And when you have lowered oxygen, it can impact your mental health.
And when your mental health is impacted, it actually impacts your immune system.
Again, we talk about that whole kind of like...
The domino effect.
When you're impacting one part of the human body, it impacts the ability for another part of it.
Like, when it doesn't work in tandem, you have issues.
That's why this is not just about, oh, my constitutional rights, I don't want to wear this mask.
There are legit reasons why for 40 years you've had to have a medical clearance to wear an N95 in your place of employment.
Why do you think that exists?
You brought up something that's fascinating, the symptoms of mask wearing and oxygen deprivation, including headaches and essentially fatigue.
It just struck me that those are also the primary symptoms that people report after taking the mRNA vaccine.
So now we have shared symptoms where somebody may be experiencing a vaccine reaction, but they think it's just from wearing the mask.
Or vice versa.
And isn't that also dangerous because it obfuscates the ability of the person suffering or even a healthcare provider to be able to determine the root cause of what's happening to that person.
Yeah, and that's what happens when people get complacent with dealing with issues.
It's no different than anyone else having an issue that they've complained about for years and then find out it's something horrible.
When you get complacent with your symptoms and you just accept them, it's very unhealthy.
And I do believe it can, no pun intended, it can mask underlying issues.
Personally, you can pay me to get this vaccine.
I'm vaccine injured.
I don't plan on getting any more.
But you make a great point.
I think you're right.
This is unbelievable to me.
I just had someone say to me they feared the long-term health effects of COVID to their lungs, so they want to get the vaccine.
And I'm like, wait, what long-term health effects?
COVID's apparently been around for not even a year, so what long-term health effects are you talking about?
But what we do know about long-term health effects is how the human body is impacted when you've deprived it of proper oxygen content.
Which is why, just so everyone knows, I hate to keep bringing up OSHA law, but that's a huge part of the science.
See, they do it for us.
A huge part of that is that you can actually file an OSHA complaint if your workplace does not have the proper oxygen parameters.
And it's important because there's been multiple studies that have been out.
I don't want to say thankfully, but really thankfully, during the SARS outbreak a few years ago, A bunch of studies, RCT studies were conducted and one was in a healthcare setting and I believe, I'm paraphrasing, And 60% of the healthcare workers had to take medication for their headaches and fatigue and dizziness that they felt from having to wear surgical masks during surgery.
And that's just 60% needed medication.
Now, the higher number of people that reported these symptoms was way higher.
I don't have to study in front of me, but these are things that I read all the time because it changes how I conduct my health risk assessments.
Wow, that's really fascinating.
Okay, so...
Let's get into the area where the oxygen that people are breathing day to day, people don't think about it, but it's just atmosphere.
It's ground-level atmosphere, which is what, about 19-point-something percent oxygen, or what is it?
Minimum 19.5.
19.5.
So, I don't know if you're aware of this, but Bill Gates is funding a project that's designed to dim the sun.
It's called the Scopex Project, and it puts particulate pollution into the stratosphere.
Now, the sunlight is necessary for plants to engage in photosynthesis using sunlight, CO2, and water For their own metabolism, and their byproduct, of course, is O2, or oxygen, that's in the atmosphere.
So it seems to me that the oxygen that we're all breathing was probably, for the most part, put into the atmosphere by plants, ocean plants, seaweeds predominantly, but also trees and grass and so on, and that Bill Gates is trying to block the sunlight to all those plants, including the aquatic ecosystems, such as seaweeds and ocean grasses and so on.
Wouldn't that drop...
I mean, again, you're not maybe an atmospheric chemistry specialist, and I'm not either, but we can just talk intelligently.
Wouldn't that potentially drop the planetary oxygen concentration at ground level?
Yes.
And Mike, I actually blew the whistle on the Air Force involvement in weather modification, which involves some of that atmospheric spraying.
That's why I left the military.
That's a conversation for a different day.
But yes, I'm a military whistleblower.
And yeah, three years in the courts on that one.
So yes, it definitely can.
If you just understand basic environmental science, actually, I mean, it's stuff we learned back in middle school, elementary school even, how we need to, on Earth Day, we plant trees to increase our oxygen content.
But what do trees need?
What do plants need?
Photosynthesis.
If you're hindering that cycle, again, it's a cog in the wheel, and it will have adverse reactions down the line.
But I think the bigger issue is, why are we allowing these giant billionaire sociopaths to have Any say in how our world functions, that's the bigger problem here.
Well, yeah, and it's also this guy, Gates, who's running this experiment, he's the same guy who has a TED Talk, says, ah, there's way too many people on the planet, we need to get it closer to zero.
It's like, well, I guess you're not beating around the bush, right?
Pretty out in the open.
You know, you make a great point because what he says in the open is already mind-numbing.
What he says in private should scare the crap out of us.
I mean, he just openly talks about, you know, eugenics and modifying weather.
And, you know, did you see his little piece last week how he tried to say how he's tired of the disinformation being spread on him about how he somehow is tied to profiting off of this COVID-19 outbreak?
Yeah, he says it's all conspiracy theories, and he always wears a sweater as if that makes him look friendly, like a cuddly teddy bear or something.
Ah, he's got a sweater on!
He's the antithesis of what Mr.
Rogers was.
Right.
No, absolutely not.
So, these are scary things because...
Oxygen, if oxygen starts to fall even a little bit, there is a class of people, mostly elderly people, but people with respiratory conditions, who are just barely making it.
You know, they're just on the edge, right?
And they may need supplemental oxygen, or maybe on good days they can get by without it.
But if you lower atmospheric oxygen to just, let's say, 18.5%, which would be, I guess, an aggregate roughly 5% reduction from its current levels, going from 19.5 to 18.5, I'm just doing estimated math.
So that would kill a lot of people who are right there on the edge, wouldn't it?
Yeah, and it's almost like a soft kill because when you have oxygen deprivation, it's not at that level you're talking about.
It's not like you immediately die, but we talk about that hemoglobin, bringing oxygen to tissues.
When it can't do that, you have heart failure.
Lung failure, renal failure.
And when one thing's not working, something else is trying to compensate for it.
I can't stress that enough.
You mess with one thing and you're messing with the rest of your body's functions.
And just to point out, to kind of really raise awareness to why I am so against these mask mandates is because, yeah, these masks, especially when you're not trained to wear them, they can decrease your oxygen content by 20%.
See, that's shocking.
And in the early days of this, I did not intuitively anticipate that it could be the case.
But I see it is now.
But honestly, at the beginning, I was like, what's the big deal?
People, you know, if it's voluntary, right?
Like doctors wear masks.
But now we know that they have problems with the masks, even in surgery.
It's astonishing.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Oh, go ahead.
I was just going to say, you brought about in surgery, that's an argument I get brought my way a lot of times, is if what you're saying is true, Kristen, why in the world are healthcare workers wearing these during surgery?
Well, surgical masks and ear loop masks are not respirators, meaning they do not require the same medical clearances and things like that.
All these surgical masks and ear loop masks are designed to do is during surgery, it is for getting stitches or sutures, it is to keep the wound or body cavity free from bacteria from the healthcare worker.
Right.
It's not to protect the healthcare worker.
Exactly.
You know, I mean, it's very minimal, by the way.
And that's why when I worked at a giant VA hospital, we had isolation units for, say, TB. They were not in N95s.
They were in those, like, kind of hoods that you see, the spacesuits.
Those are called CAPRs and PAPRs, which are controlled air purifying respirators and powered air purifying respirators.
Because that allowed for prolonged use.
Because in the process of wearing that, they might be lifting patients from the roll-away bed to the actual surgical bed.
So there's, again, nothing's one size fits all.
And I had to conduct health risk assessments to be like, okay, the nutrition folks can wear N95s because they're only going to be in the room for like two minutes to drop off the food.
But the people that were coming in to take vitals or do surgery, oh yes, they were in PAPRs because I knew that certain viruses can totally blow right through those N95s.
Right.
If I were a surgeon, by the way, I'd be freaked out about the patient infecting me because these patients, who knows what they're into, what kind of crazy needle sharing they've been doing or whatever.
You know, their blood, it could be full of all kinds of toxins.
Yeah, they could have drank water from Flint.
Right.
Yeah, right.
Lead in the blood.
Now, what do you do since you don't wear a mask?
You have a pre-existing respiratory condition.
You don't wear a mask.
Obviously, you must get a challenge by maybe shop owners or restaurant owners or whoever.
What do you tell them when they say, hey, hey, hey, you're not wearing your mask.
What's wrong with you?
Well, I actually have a documented exemption from respirator masks, and while I'm not required to show proof of it, I have a lanyard that I made that has my disabled veteran card on the back, and it says, can't mask, don't ask, legally protect a disabled veteran.
And when it comes to stores and restaurants, I get left alone.
I've only had two issues.
One was when I was in Cleveland, Ohio, and tried to go into a casino, and wow, the treatment I got there was absolutely insane.
That was just a, excuse me for lack of a better term, a pissing match between me and security.
I did have a huge, and I'm going to call them out, Spectrum Health here in Michigan tried to deny me entry for physical therapy after I had a surgery.
And I know that I am protected under the Americans with Disability Act Title III because I'm a disabled veteran.
And I actually had to file litigation, not for compensation, but to be able to be seen.
And you know what it ended up being?
Oh my gosh, this was just a misunderstanding.
You can come in.
You don't need a mask.
I mean, I know not everyone has ADA protected disabilities, but most every state order I've seen says that there's exemption for those who cannot medically tolerate it.
So I just, I have a great attitude.
I think how you carry yourself and I just walk in like I own the place.
And, you know, I don't walk in like a Karen and I just do what I do.
And I'm also not a jerk.
Like if I have a fever, I'm not going to.
Go out and go shopping.
But, you know, to be real here, Mike, here in Michigan, hardly anything's open, so I haven't really been able to see how I'm treated.
Oh, the silver lining of the Whitmer weaponized shutdowns, yes.
But I will say I am scheduled to testify to our state Senate on February 9th.
So I already saw on there they have a little disclaimer about those with ADA disabilities.
I don't have to wear a mask.
So if the state capitol will let me in, I'll be able to sit there and expose the mask lies.
And I've never been so excited.
So what about this bigger picture concept where even before the whole COVID fiasco, we had people, many people who are very, very unhealthy.
They don't take care of their health.
They don't take supplements.
They don't eat well.
They don't exercise.
They're in bad shape.
And they tend to get infected a lot.
And they tend to always be sneezing and coughing on everybody else.
Well, those people are still out there.
With just other things like influenza or tuberculosis or things like that.
There was never any kind of mass panic over those people.
But then today, when a perfectly healthy person who's not symptomatic isn't wearing a mask like you, then they bring the hate on you.
What about these coughing, sneezing, unhealthy carriers who probably infected thousands?
Because it's the videos that we saw a long time ago, which we didn't even know where they originated from, where people in China were dropping like flies and being put in body bags, and there was all these bodies.
And, you know, we don't really know the origin or the truth of all that.
But what it did is it scared the living crap out of everyone to think that this is totally different.
And it's not totally different because all of the doctors that I follow and that I'm friends with have explained to me that this SARS-CoV-2 is pretty much 80-85% similar to other viruses we've had.
And personally, I'm way more afraid of tuberculosis than I ever would be of COVID-19.
Absolutely.
I've seen when people always say, well, are you on the front lines?
Absolutely.
I've been working in TB wards my whole entire career.
Absolutely.
Who do you think is going in to make sure?
Because that's another thing, a part of my job.
I don't just put things in place.
I have to constantly go back and verify the confidence and controls that I put in place.
So it's my butt that's in the isolation rooms, testing the air, making sure it's negative or positive pressure air, depending on the situation.
And I'm telling you, there are other things that we've dealt with throughout history, even two years ago with TB outbreaks.
We did not wear masks.
We did not shut down.
I honestly believe that if we did not have social media, we would not be where we are today.
We would not know about it.
We would think it's the flu.
We would think it's RSV.
We would think it's a blood disorder, anything.
And like always, if you eat unhealthy and you are, I don't want to use that word.
If you are out of shape and you are heavy or obese, you're not.
You are always going to be predispositioned to have issues because you most likely have heart issues, circulatory issues, and diabetes.
And we all know, and heaven forbid you bring it up, you sound like a racist.
We know that minorities and people in the South, listen, I lived in the South for many years in the military.
They eat different than people in the Midwest.
I'm in Michigan now.
They eat more fat.
They eat more homestyle foods.
Nothing wrong with it.
But let's be real.
Some of that is highly unhealthy.
Everything's fried.
Yes, if you say that, you're evil, and that is wrong.
We can't say anything nowadays where you're racist or you're wrong, and I am absolutely none of those things.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But all we're saying is that perhaps people should take responsibility for their own health status instead of always saying, oh, well, the doctor will take care of that or my insurance will cover that.
I don't need to be healthy.
My insurance will cover.
I've got good insurance.
I've heard people make those arguments.
It's like, what, are you insane?
I mean, you're living in your body.
Medication so they can eat it, you know?
Right, right.
They have their CPAP so they can eat it.
I've known people who are type 2 diabetics, and they're eating ice cream out of a tub, and I'm like, I thought you were diabetic.
Why are you eating ice cream?
And they say, oh, don't worry, the insulin takes care of that.
They can still have the ice cream.
They're like, how do you think you got diabetic?
You've been eating tons of ice cream.
I have family members like that, and they won't mind me calling them out because we're just honest with each other.
Both of my parents got COVID, and yeah, they both deal with diabetes.
They both kind of yo-yoed.
My mom's on a great track, but I saw how my parents handled it.
And I know nothing is one size fits all again, but seeing my parents who were both kind of dealing with overweight issues and being diabetic, both on CPAP machines, they survived.
None of them went to a hospital.
They just said it was a bad flu and couldn't taste their food.
And I'm not trying to lessen anyone who lost their life over it.
I personally think a lot of the deaths had to do with maybe pre-exposition issues, comorbidities, or medical error.
I mean, we were putting people on ventilators when they had low oxygen.
If your lungs work, why are you putting someone on a ventilator?
So, I mean, it's kind of like Monday morning quarterbacking, but I absolutely do not believe that all of these deaths occurred just because of COVID.
So we need to take responsibility.
And Mike, you know, I'll thank you.
I've been following you for years and following everything you said about supplements, and I just want to know why our Surgeon General hasn't brought up this.
I want to know why I have to go on Brighteon or Rumble to learn about taking D3 and zinc and ivermectin, you know, and I'm hardly ever sick, so...
It's just incredible.
You know how effective vitamin D is at preventing tuberculosis?
It stops like four out of five.
Zinc, it's the number one nutrient to prevent low birth weight babies.
And, you know, it's a couple of pennies a day.
And you could just go on and on.
Certain nutrients, you know, licorice root protects the liver from damage caused by acetaminophen or Tylenol.
Which impacts a lot of veterans, by the way.
That is highly overprescribed in the military.
I deal with that myself, so...
Yep, exactly.
And then 10 years later, they have liver dysfunction, you know, and then they need a liver transplant or they have liver cancer.
I need liver.
Yeah, exactly.
So the prevention of this, and I know you're in the business of prevention, really, of preventing catastrophic infections or exposures.
If we could just have the brains as a nation to promote nutrition, which is very inexpensive, to prevent these chronic health conditions, the savings, it would be a thousand to one savings, you know, of future health care costs versus upfront nutrition.
But you know, when you do these low-cost self-care routines, Mike, I mean, how are we creating repeat customers?
I mean, it's not a conspiracy theory that the healthcare makes so much of the money off of pharmaceuticals.
And I know that pharmaceuticals have their place.
For me, it's a last resort.
I had a major surgery and I used indica cannabis, took my pain away.
I mean, I ate a lot of munchies, but you know, my pain was taken away and my stomach did not get tore up from taking Norco.
I didn't get an addiction.
I might have gained five pounds, but that's a different story.
We have to take responsibility.
We need to stop relying on our government to tell us how to live.
We learn about nutrition when we are in elementary school, even though I don't agree with the food pyramid.
We learn how to take care of our bodies.
We learn about personal hygiene.
We have turned away from just taking care of ourselves to waiting on the almighty government to tell us how we should live, what we should eat.
I mean, I'm not one of those people that pushes my diet on other people.
I've been vegan and plant-based for many years.
It's worked for me.
It's really shut down my inflammation.
Again, not one size fits all.
And because of that, I take B12. I take other things.
Because I recognize there's certain things you get from animals.
I'm not a militant plant-based eater here, but it works for me.
And I don't care what anyone else eats.
But we have to take responsibility for our own bodies.
And we are all not genetically the same.
I know what something that...
A family member could eat for me really makes me bloat.
And we just need to understand we must take accountability for ourselves.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I've been advocating people to just grow some sprouts and eat sprout sandwiches, which are actually quite delicious.
I eat them in my house.
Yeah, I do it almost every day.
It's the easiest thing.
Sprout sandwich.
I never have to go to the grocery store to buy sprouts because I'm always growing them in a jar.
They're not even in circulation for some reason.
That's why we started growing ours.
What's that?
We haven't been able to find sprouts in like two years, so that's when we started growing them.
Oh, I see.
Okay, I never even really looked for sprouts there.
Like alfalfa sprouts especially, yeah.
Yeah, see, I don't even trust...
I don't trust commercial sprout growers necessarily because I don't know what water they're using or how they're filtering it.
They're probably using city water.
I don't trust that at all.
So I use filtered Texas rainwater for my sprouts.
Nope.
Do you have a permit for that?
No.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, are there any final thoughts that you want to share with us, Kristen?
Because this has been a fascinating conversation, I think, very eye-opening.
Obviously, this conversation would be banned on YouTube because knowledge is forbidden, but I think our viewers will love it.
What else do you want to add to it before we wrap it up?
Well, definitely would be censored because I've lost about every social media account I've had because I dare speak out about my profession.
I would just implore people to understand that there are professions that you may not have heard of, but it doesn't mean they don't exist.
See, my field is very behind the scenes, and there's always a joke in my career field that you don't know who we are until things go wrong.
Well, this is a perfect example.
We work in preventive medicine, so you don't see us because we keep your healthcare providers safe.
And I just want people to understand just because you cannot find something that aligns with what I'm telling you does not mean I'm not correct.
What you have to do is use alternate search engines like DuckDuckGo and just look into, I'm going to put this down here for you.
It is the OSHA Law 29 CFR 1910.134.
And if you want to take a glimpse at that medical questionnaire, when you look that same thing up, look under Appendix C. It's the medical questionnaire.
All of the information exists that I'm telling you.
You just have to dig through alternate search engines.
And when you find this information, you are going to think, what in the world?
Why is this suppressed?
You cannot erase 40 years of science.
Science is ever-changing, but like I mentioned before, this isn't just solidified science that just was discovered 40 years ago.
This is science that is ever-evolving and is constantly re-evaluated all the time.
So please understand that I have the utmost respect for healthcare workers.
I've worked with them my entire career field, and the ones that I have the most respect for are the ones that will come forward and say, Masks are not my profession.
You need to talk to someone like an industrial hygienist or environmental health and safety professionals.
So please know, just because someone is a doctor does not mean they are the jack of all trades.
And just because I'm an industrial hygienist does not mean I speak outside my lane.
We all, as health professionals, need to respect our boundaries to protect basically the world.
And that is important.
Take your ego out of it and do the right thing and uphold the ethics of your profession.
Well said.
Well said, Chris.
And that's awesome.
I also want to remind people to check out your website, Real Deal Media.
That's with Dean Ryan, realdealmedia.com.
You've also got a channel on brighteon.com.
And let me add this.
You talked about your specialty is something that people haven't heard of much until they need it.
Here's one to add to that.
I know a guy and a company in Texas.
Their specialty is rescuing workers who have fallen into large petroleum containers.
Yes.
They are rescue workers who work inside containers.
Yeah, that's confined space, yeah.
Confined space rescue.
That's part of my job.
Is it really?
It is.
Yes, it is.
Well, I've never heard of it, but I was thinking, yeah, this is Texas.
There's a lot of oil rigs.
There's underwater containers.
There's land containers.
There's explosive fumes and things.
I mean, it's a big deal.
I sign those permits.
I check out the spaces and I'm there as a rescuer.
Yep.
That's crazy.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I told you, this profession is very wide in where it touches.
That's wild.
Well, small world, I guess.
But let us all hope that we never end up stuck in a giant vat of oil.
That's when your day has gone totally wrong.
It's also dark in there.
Okay, so thank you so much, Kristen.
It's been an honor being able to speak with you today.
I hope you'll join us again for some more discussion about these topics.
Absolutely.
Keep doing the work you're doing.
We love you so much, Mike.
And everyone, just stay blessed and stay positive.
We will get through this.
All right.
Thank you, Kristen.
And thank you for watching.
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