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May 3, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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G. Edward Griffin warns: Is it too late to save America?
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Welcome everyone to Brighton Conversations.
This is Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we have a very special guest, a legend in the realm of freedom and liberty, the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, and also the creator of redpilluniversity.org.
G. Edward Griffin joins us today to talk about liberty and the future of America.
And we're recording this shortly after the disputed election between Biden and Trump.
So there's a lot at stake here.
G. Edward, welcome to the show.
It's a pleasure to have you on today.
Well, thank you, Mike.
It's my pleasure to be on your show.
Thanks for inviting me.
Well, thank you so much.
And just to inform our listeners, I've been a member of your Freedom Force International for many, many years, and I want to thank you for honoring me with that membership so many years ago when we first met.
Yeah, you're in our Hall of Honor, actually, and you deserve to be.
And the passing of every month, I think that you should be moved up to the top of the list, perhaps.
But we've got some pretty high-powered people there.
Well, anyway, thank you.
We think of ourselves as the good guys, you know, and so we have to stick together because there are a lot of the others out there who are pretty well organized.
So it's good to know we're in the same camp.
We are indeed, and I also want to say, before we really delve into the topics today, that you have been an inspiration to me and so many others in the Liberty movement.
I remember reading your Laetrile B17 book many years ago, and that really opened my eyes to the natural cures that are available out there that are being suppressed, and also then, of course, the creature from Jekyll Island.
And that wasn't a time when very few people were aware that the Federal Reserve wasn't a department of the federal government.
So a lot has changed.
Well, actually, that goes way back.
That book was published in 1974.
It's still roaring, by the way.
I keep updating it as necessary.
But in 1974, I don't think I was aware of the Federal Reserve either.
I mean, that was back in the days when I knew that our country was in trouble.
I knew we were drifting...
Well, I'm rushing, perhaps, toward a totalitarian system, the kind of system we had fought wars against.
It seems like our leadership, with the concurrence of the voters, seemed to buy into the idea that in order to fight totalitarianism, you have to adopt totalitarianism.
We had a couple of wars which were...
We really fought, I think, primarily to convince us of that fact.
Here we are in a death struggle against these totalitarian regimes.
We can't stand around waiting on voter approval to do everything.
We can't get voter input.
We stand around waiting for representative government.
Well, we're going to be invaded by the bad guys, right?
So, under wartime conditions, People say, yeah, that's right.
Let's forget the Constitution for now.
We'll get back to it after the war is over.
Well, we all know how that turns out.
And the war is over, and you don't get back to the constitutional provisions.
So anyway, back in 1974, I was sort of in that state.
I was aware of some of the things that were going on in the health industry.
I knew that the country was heading in the right direction, but I had no knowledge at all about the Federal Reserve System.
That was still ahead for me.
So, we are in this era, I believe, of this great awakening right now where Trump and also the COVID pandemic has awakened people to the massive frauds and scams of the scientific institutions, of the fake media, of fake big government, you know, the fake WHO and so on.
It's been an amazing journey just this year alone.
It's kind of accelerated everything that I think you and I wanted People to awaken to, you know, it accelerated that awakening.
Where do you think we are overall right now, G. Edward, in terms of, you know, are we going to lose our republic here with the aftermath of this election?
Have we already lost it?
Have we lost the First Amendment?
Are they coming for the guns next?
Where do you think this is going?
Okay, there are a couple of doors to that topic.
I think I'll start with the last one, the business about how we're going to lose our republic.
I think a real sober and honest appraisal, Mike, is that we lost it a long time ago.
We talk always about, you know, free enterprise and the capitalist system.
We're fighting to defend that.
Hey, everybody, we lost that in the last World War.
When we came out of that war, we already had so many rules and regulations in place to fight the war, you understand.
And they eased off a little bit, but the mechanisms and the agencies, the bureaucracy was in place.
And they never went away.
And it was just a matter of mission creep from that point forward.
And we grew used to the idea that the government was there to protect us.
The government was there to take care of us.
Not to protect us, but to take care of us.
And to make these rules and regulations and to decide, you know, what is good for the economy, what interest rates there should be, how much money should be in circulation.
Those are big decisions that only the important, wise people could make.
And that's the function of government, we began to be thinking, because that's what was being taught to us in our schools.
It wasn't like that before World War I especially, and then by World War II it was mostly gone.
But so we had gradually creeped over to this idea of collectivism, the idea that, you know, the group is more important than the individual, and the individual has to be sacrificed, if necessary, for the greater good of the greater number.
And that was mission creep.
And the Republic was built on just the opposite understanding.
The opposite understanding, of course, is that the individual and his personal liberties and rights were the foundation of society.
And the function of government was to protect those rights, not to tell the people what to do, what to think, how to live, how to vote, or how to speak.
That was not the idea.
The purpose of the state was to protect our lives and our liberty.
That's about it.
Well, anyway, so that was the republic.
That's the essence of the republic.
And we don't have that today.
Now, we talk about defending it, but I think we should be saying...
To restore it, because it is essentially gone.
It's still on pieces of paper, but no honors the Constitution anymore because they think, well, the Supreme Court said that that isn't true anymore.
So if the Supreme Court says so, it's not true.
Anyway, I meander a little bit, so I'll just start with the idea that I'm deeply concerned that our job is harder than most people think.
It would be hard enough to defend the Republic when the principles of collectivism are being taught in our schools, and the new generations are coming up, and they come out of the schools like I did, actually.
I came out as a boiling little collectivist.
I thought that all these things were good.
old style still functioning.
Now there's very little of it functioning, and people are out there clamoring against the banks and against the government, and they say down with capitalism.
They don't realize that capitalism was thrown down decades ago.
What we have now is what most people would call socialism.
They should be saying down with socialism, but they're not, because in school they were told that we have capitalism in this country today.
And since they think that, and then they say all the problems out there, that must be the cause of capitalism because I learned in school this is a capitalist society.
You see where I'm going with this.
So, I think the first step in figuring out where we're headed And what to do about it is to make sure that we don't continue living in a dream and that we face reality and see our challenge exactly as it is and not as we'd like to think of it, you know.
I've forgotten what candidate, it was one of not my popular candidates in the older days.
He said something very wise.
He said, Americans are always suckers for good news.
That's pretty true.
So, I don't know.
Getting back to your main question, what do I make of it today?
I think we're really, as many people have said, we're at the crossroads right now.
And these are terrifying times, but they're very exhilarating times, because we're going to live through an event and a period of history that will be written up in the history book one way or the other, mainly based on who the winners are.
And that's why we're in the battle, to make sure that we...
The winners are those that want to restore the republic.
You make some really important points in that.
And even now, even if Trump were to win this election, I mean, we have to be honest about this.
The Supreme Court, even the three that he put there, are still statists.
They still work for the state and they defend the state and they crush individual liberty.
Trump has engaged in the most massive money printing operation, or at least I should say the Fed under Trump or with, I think, the direction of Trump.
The most massive money printing operation in history, debt through the roof.
We're talking, you know, I remember a few years ago we were saying that Obama, he was horrible because he was putting us through, what, about $8 trillion in new debt, about a trillion a year.
And then now, recently, under the COVID situation, there are months where we have a trillion dollars in new debt just for one month.
You know, this is a hyperbolic blowout of debt.
It is happening under Trump, you know, regardless of what happens to the election.
I don't see how this republic stays together under any system.
I mean, economically, whether people want socialism or Marxism or fascism, how does this system even hold together?
Well, it doesn't.
It's not supposed to hold together, at least not the way that we like to think it's supposed to hold together.
But, yeah, under a true republic, of course, that would be impossible.
And I'm back to my theme again, because under a true republic, the state would not have the power.
To give to a bunch of bankers and call it the Federal Reserve System.
It's nothing but a cartel of bankers.
The state wouldn't have the power to give that control over the money to the banking system or even to hold it themselves.
The Constitution makes it very clear that even the federal government and none of the state governments are allowed to create money out of nothing.
They're not allowed to create money out of debt.
They're not allowed to.
It says so right in the Constitution.
And so the federal government, I guess it said in its infinite wisdom, well, since we're not allowed to do it, we'll authorize the banks to do it.
And that's what they did in the Federal Reserve Act.
They took a power that they did not have themselves, and they said, we delegate it to the banks.
It was, of course, a fraud.
And anybody could see that, even a grade school child could see you can't give away something that you don't have.
You have to steal it, in other words, if you're going to give it away.
But that's never been challenged in the Supreme Court, and it never will be, because everybody involved in the system knows that it's corrupt, it's impossible.
So they won't deal with it, they won't hear the case, because otherwise they'd be embarrassed to have to say, well, this orange is an apple.
So anyway, we're back to the system again.
It's not a republic, unfortunately, and if it were, then we wouldn't have this problem.
So what does this look like, then, as this...
Falls apart.
Is it a slow...
I mean, like you said, we're past the tipping point already, and I agree.
Most of the country expects the government to take care of them.
Most of the country has become used to the cheap money that's printed and handed out, and now just directly, you know, universal basic income.
Here, take money to stay home and not work.
That's been happening for, what, seven months now?
It's truly insane.
Societies will fall from this, and ours will as well.
But what does that look like?
Does it take a decade still?
A few more years?
One more presidential term?
Or is it, you know, next January?
What does this look like in your view?
Well, thank you for saying it, my view.
But I have to put a disclaimer in front of this because my view has always been wrong in terms of timing.
I've always thought that these catastrophic turning points would come much sooner than they did.
Me too.
It can't hold together, you know.
Captain, I can't hold her together anymore, Scotty would say on Star Trek.
She's coming apart, Captain!
I've been yelling, she's coming apart, Captain, for many years.
And she is.
It's just that she's holding together longer than I thought.
But each passing day, the rivets get pulled a little bit further apart, and you can see, she's coming apart.
And so the question still remains, well, when does she blow apart?
And I think I don't think it's ever going to be like a blow-up.
Sort of like the question people used to ask me when we talked about this thing called the New World Order, which everybody kind of scoffed at, you know, the New World Order.
You're talking about a global totalitarian system?
Impossible, you idiot.
Well, now, of course, we see it, and it's all around us.
Nobody laughs at it anymore.
But I used to get the question, well, when do you think the New World Order would be here?
And my answer then is the same answer that I think I need to give for this question, which is that, wake up, friends, it's already here.
It's not as big as it's going to be, but the foundation is there, and every day they put another row of cement blocks, and the walls go higher, and they keep adding to it every day, but it's here.
There'll never be a day when they ring the bell, and on the front page of the newspapers, it'll say, the New World Order arrived today at 12.05.
You know?
No, it's built and consolidated, and I think that's what's going on today, this transition to what now they're calling Great Reset, and I call it the Great Reset to Feudalism, because it is a reset to feudalism.
That's going to be 2030, they say.
Well, it's already here, everybody.
But they just keep building it and building it, but they want to give it slogans.
They're marketers.
It's like selling a new coffee or a new bottle of Coke or something.
The new shape, you know?
The new shape.
Well, the shape has been on the drawing board for seven years.
And now they're going to launch it and convince everybody that this shape, if they hold that in their hand, it'll make them look sexy or something.
You know, they've got to market these.
And so I don't know.
I don't think that 2030 or 2022 or any of those dates are meaningful.
It's here already.
It's a question of to what extent.
They just keep adding to it.
The time, we have to assume it's here.
Now what do we do about it?
We've got to push back and get rid of it.
Well, COVID-19, of course, accelerated all of their globalist plans of total control and tracking and, I believe, even, you know, taking people away and putting them into death camps, essentially.
is that's what I would call them forced quarantine camps where you're not allowed access to vitamin D and vitamin C and zinc you have to take their experimental vaccine shots and you have to download and install their contact tracing apps that track your movement even if you're ever allowed to leave the the death camp you You'll probably at some point be put to work at slave labor wages.
And I would imagine those camps, for the people they choose to keep alive, they would contract out the labor to the corporations like Apple so they can claim that, oh, we brought manufacturing back from China.
Now it's in the slave camps in Washington State.
Good point.
Right.
Yeah, we laugh, but it's really deadly serious.
It absolutely is.
I mean, it is here.
You look at what Canada is announcing, Australia, New Zealand.
These are medical fascism infrastructure projects.
They are building death camps today, right now.
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
And of course, there's still a lot of those people out there that Max Egan likes to call the sleeping masses.
I like the way he says it.
You know, Max is from Australia, and he likes the word folks.
But you always say, folks?
It's already here.
Or folks, we may not have much respect for the sleeping masses, but if we don't wake them up, they're going to drag us into tyranny along with them.
And he's right.
So even though we can scoff at the sleeping masses and the people that don't understand, people that don't particularly want to talk about it, they don't want to know, they have to know, we have to make them aware of it, if we expect to be in a free society ourselves.
We're on the same boat, in other words.
So if their boat goes down, so does ours.
This term, Great Reset, that you mentioned earlier, this is being touted now by globalist organizations, including Time Magazine, I think, has this on their cover recently, and it's being touted as an opportunity to rewrite the rules of human civilization, effectively, to put in place carbon lockdowns in the name of global warming and climate change.
To take new control over people's money, perhaps force everybody into a digital wallet where you have no privacy and no anonymity of your transactions.
Total population control, forcing people to live in cities where they can be mass vaccinated like dogs in a kennel.
This is the globalist dream come true, and it's no longer a hidden agenda.
It's right in our faces now.
Yeah, and they're trying to make it sound appealing, you know, like they try to sell everything that is bad for us.
They put the word smart in front of us.
Oh, that's good.
We got a smartphone, a smart meter, you know, a smart automobile.
And so they market it.
They're masters at twisting our attitudes with vocabulary.
But I think by now most people are beginning to see through that.
But still, the sleeping masses, as Max calls them, don't see through it.
They're in line.
They say, hurry up and get those vaccines because I want mine, you know.
I understand I need mine if I'm going to be healthy.
And so they're standing in line, you know, like for the electric chair.
Next.
Can I be next?
So anyway, it's marketing.
It's primarily just marketing.
The idea of slavery is good for you.
Because it's for your own good.
Now, these are bad things that are coming up, but we're all afraid of a coronavirus that's going to kill everybody, or terrorism that's going to kill everybody, or global warming that's going to destroy the planet, or something.
You know, we're always in fear, and we're willing to give up our liberty in order to save ourselves and our children and our planet against these imaginary threats.
It is extraordinary.
It's marketing.
Yeah, it is marketing, and I've got a new term to share with you.
I call it vaccine-assisted suicide.
So you've got all these people lining up who have been told that a vaccine will save their life and also allow them to get back to normal, where they can go back to work or they can go back to social gatherings and so on.
I remember seeing the stock market surge Three percentage points in one day when one vaccine company announced one vaccine trial of 20 people that wasn't even a very good result.
But the market went nuts and all the stocks went up.
I mean, it's insane.
It's completely irrational.
Yes.
Well, that's because it's controlled.
It's not a free market, folks.
And we keep thinking, well, why doesn't the free market respond?
What happened to this...
This free exchange of ideas, how come the truth doesn't get out?
It's because those days are gone, folks.
Those days are gone.
The market of ideas, the programming and the framing of the debates in the political arena, the news stories, they're all contoured to impact our subconsciousness, really, and to create attitudes that we don't even know we have because of the twisting of the information that we're flooded with.
It's marketing.
That's why we want to go out and get that car or have that stake or buy that dress that's got a new hemline on it because it's the thing to do, you know?
It's marketing.
Oh, you're on to me, yeah.
I was really wishing for that new dress with that new hemline.
You got me.
No, I can't even think of the last time I purchased clothes for anything other than a utilitarian purpose.
It's like, oh, there's holes in that shirt.
I better get a new one, you know?
That's about it.
But that's country living in Texas also.
It's very practical.
But you really mentioned something.
There's been a psychological awakening this year that I think maybe was unanticipated by the globalists.
Public trust in the CDC and the scientific community has plunged this year.
Public trust in the news media has plunged over the last four years.
Public trust in even the science establishment has cratered.
No one trusts, I mean, I should say no informed person trusts the Lancet or the New England Journal of Medicine.
And now you've got people who used to not believe in conspiracy theories.
And I'm thinking like a peak prosperity guy, Chris Martinson, for example.
Now saying he's come to the conclusion, yes, they're trying to kill you by withholding information about hydroxychloroquine, for example.
So, you know, formerly mainstream science-minded people are now, yeah, they're trying to kill you.
Yeah, that's quite a turnaround.
And so, yes, that's very encouraging for those of us who are not just thinking negatively of how we survive and how we're going to...
Maybe they won't notice us if we do this or, you know, can we stockpile on food and we can live a little bit longer?
That's all negative thinking.
But those of us that like to think in terms of a counterattack crossing the Delaware on Christmas when nobody expected it and changing the whole American Revolution from defeat to victory in one fell swoop, really, we're looking for opportunities to take the initiative and we're looking for assets that Are being ignored.
And this asset that you just described is tremendous.
The asset being is the awakening giant.
The sleeping masses are indeed waking up.
Now, not enough of them, but at least the first rock has fallen off of the cliff.
And I think there's going to be that rumbling sound pretty soon and an avalanche will follow.
Yeah, we're seeing even more of that in the aftermath of this election, where it's obvious that many, many votes, hundreds of thousands of votes, were just blatantly rigged, printed up, stuffed into the ballot boxes for Joe Biden in places like Wisconsin and Michigan and it looks like Georgia and Pennsylvania and, you know...
Probably Nevada as well.
I mean, it's blatant.
It's in your face.
You know, you go to bed one night, you wake up the next morning, there's plus 200,000 votes for Joe Biden in Wisconsin, not a single added vote for Trump.
Just blatant fraud in your face as if it's almost insulting.
Like, they think we won't notice, you know.
They think we're so stupid, but...
The people are not so stupid, and I've talked to many people who feel like this is the line in the sand.
This is it.
They're willing to lay their lives on the line to defend the outcome of this election, or they'd rather die trying than live under Joe Biden's communist China.
Well, that was the story of the Alamo, wasn't it?
And it's not a happy ending if you just stop the story there.
But it's a good ending if you realize that it was the setting of the goal for the bravery and principle for the American Republic, you know?
You have to be willing to fight for what you believe in, even though the odds are very dismal against victory.
If the only time you fight is when you're sure you're going to win...
Then you're probably not going to win, ever.
Well, right.
You're talking about...
Some people sacrificing their lives in order to really spread the awakening and the reaction, the outrage against it.
Do you think something like that is going to happen in America?
Are we going to see maybe patriot groups going to Washington, D.C. to defend the president, defend the White House, and then give their lives blood in the streets?
Are we headed for a kinetic conflict like that?
Well, what I'm going to say is kind of controversial, but I'm going to say it anyway because it's my opinion.
I think that's what our enemy wants us to do.
I think they want to have an excuse to really clamp down with not only martial law, but extreme martial law, and to tar and feather patriots all over.
Look, those are the guys that came with guns, and they started shooting people, and to make it look like the patriots did initiate it, to probably plant their own snipers on rooftops and say, look, that's...
That's what the patriots did and all those gun rights people and so forth.
I don't really think that victory for us is ever going to be determined by a show of arms.
Not that we shouldn't keep our arms for defense and so forth, but for an offensive war where you have to take the initiative and win, actually, I don't think so.
And the reason I say that, and I hate to be pessimistic, but anyway, the reason I say that is that I think you and your listeners are well aware that there are weapons in existence today that most people don't even know about.
There are laser weapons.
There are electronic weapons.
I mean, they've got drones.
They've got chemical warfare.
They've got atomic bombs.
The days of the lock and load, your musket, are not here anymore.
In the times of the American Revolution, the battle could be won on a simple equation.
Who had the most guns and who had the most courage?
If you put those two together, you could determine the outcome of any war.
But today, the most guns in terms of ammunition like we think of it, rifles and pistols and black powder, is nothing compared to the electronic weapons and the high-tech weapons that they have today.
It would be a bloodbath.
It would be horrible.
But no.
Is that a reason for pessimism?
And I don't think it is because we understand, I hope, that this battle still...
It's not a battle of force and violence.
It's a battle for the minds of people, and it's a battle for control of the institutions of power.
We have to get back into the game and recapture control of our labor unions, our political system, our news media, our educational system.
You can't do it just by standing in the street and say, come and take my gun, if you dare.
No, no, it's not that anymore.
We have to have the support of the whole nation.
They have to be as one, and they have to think as one.
That's why these people who are waking up are so important, because once we have that unity, that solidarity, even though people may not understand at a deep level, they'll understand that they've been taken for fools, and that they've been robbed and cheated and so forth.
Now, all it takes then is for the right kind of leadership to show up, and we can dismantle the system.
Now, does that mean that there won't be bloodshed?
Oh, I wouldn't be silly enough to think that because I know that power never backs away without equal or greater power.
This never happened before.
Nobody in a position of power gives it up unless they feel that they're forced to by equal or greater power.
Well, right.
G. Edward, this brings me to the counterpoint to what you just said.
If we try to fight within the realm of speech, for example, well, speech is all controlled by Democrat-run tech giants now.
They've obliterated freedom of speech.
We can't win a debate if we have tape over our mouths and we're silenced and deplatformed.
Right.
And then elections.
Elections are all rigged in favor of Democrats because the cities, the Democrat cities are totally corrupt.
They'll just roll in wagons full of 20,000 ballots that they just printed up in the middle of the night and stuff it in there.
How can we, the liberty minded people, ever regain a level playing field if everything is rigged, including the public schools, including most of the federal courts, including the media, big tech, as I mentioned.
and everything else?
I mean, don't we have to take it into some other dimension other than the one that's controlled by them?
Well, I think that's true, but the dimension maybe is not clear to us.
I I agree with everything you said.
However, the controlled means of communication is serious.
It's dead serious, but it's not as serious as we might think because alternative means of communication can still arise.
I think we're going to see in the next couple of years the return of the pamphlet.
You know, the pamphlet, as long as people have got a laser printer in their home and have access to paper, which may not be always so readily available either.
But anyway, and that word of mouth, of course.
And now we've got, you know, your internet service, Bratheon, isn't it?
Bratheon.
Bratheon, yeah.
And others are springing up.
So there are other alternatives.
But that doesn't negate what you said.
Because you're right, in every level of control in society, all the power centers, they have over approximately 200 years gradually moved in and taken over the heads of those power centers.
So what do you do about that?
What is this other dimension that I cannot envision clearly, but I'm beginning to see it as perhaps...
How shall I say this?
The best way I can describe it, what's on my mind, is I remember back in, I think it was the 70s, when Khrushchev, I have to look up the dates on this, there was some video of him pounding the desk at the United Nations with his shoe.
He was making his statement, pounding the desk with his shoe, and at the same time, he was being quoted everywhere as saying, We shall bury you!
And he was talking to the United States.
And by the way, they took away that video.
You can't find it anymore.
It's been stripped out.
Nobody can find a video of him.
But I saw it.
And there were some still pictures preserved of it too.
Anyway, that's a side issue.
But in reading the full statements from Khrushchev, he said, we will bury you because while you are parading around in all of your affluence and your power and your money, we are capturing your children.
Right.
And I never forgot that, and I thought to myself, you know, he is right.
There was no way that the Communists were going to take over America with guns.
They took it over because they captured the minds of our children in school.
They took over the school system, then they took over the minds of the children, and now the children are the congressmen and the senators and the mayors and the governors that we have to deal with.
That's right.
Yeah.
It didn't happen with guns.
That's my point.
It happened because they started with the children.
I'm wondering if somewhere in there is something we haven't thought through yet.
We are reaching the kids.
Now, this I can tell you.
I don't know about your mailing list and your list of supporters, but mine has changed dramatically, the composition, the profile.
I used to have a lot of old folks on my list.
I still do, but for every person Let's say 60 or over that is coming in and asking and becoming active in our groups.
We have five who are probably in their 30s or early 40s and younger.
The demographics have changed completely.
And to me, I think there's something inside this picture which could open up A view of what our strategy should be for taking back and rebuilding the republic.
Now, the problem with that is everybody's in a hurry.
How can you do that?
I mean, we don't have time.
Well, they didn't have time either.
I mean, they had to take over America, which would in no way, you think, tolerate an ideology such as communism, but they did it because they went after the children.
And they didn't, you know, march in the streets and do it with guns.
So I'm just thinking if we could focus on, get our minds around the fact that this isn't going to happen by the next election, that we're dealing with a generational challenge.
In other words, it's not a tactical issue.
It's a strategic issue.
Tactics are involved with winning the battle.
Strategies are involved with winning the war.
And I think if we would stop thinking so much on tactics and think in terms of strategies for the long picture, somewhere in that concept we will find the alternative solution that you're talking about.
Well, I hear what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate for a minute, the school system has just gone more and more Marxist and socialist, more radical left with each passing year to the point where now the universities are basically, most of them, just indoctrination centers.
And it's worse than politics.
It's now a transgenderism push in the schools.
You've got a drag queen story hour.
And I love how they mess with children's brains.
They say, oh, you are unique and special.
As long as you conform.
You know?
This is their message.
Like, you can be any color of the rainbow as long as you're LGBT. I know.
Back in my day, they did the same thing.
There was the era of the long hair, you know, even before that.
But by the time the long hair came along and my sons were letting their hair grow on, and they were saying, yeah, but Dad, I want to be myself.
I want to be who I am, you know?
I want to make my own decisions.
And I used to say to them, why are you looking like everybody else?
Yeah.
And they didn't get it.
But now I think they do.
Sure.
You're right.
I'm glad you're being the devil's advocate, because I am the same way.
I challenge these concepts.
I don't think that there's anything...
Alright, I'll say it.
I think that the human being is a creation of a grand intelligence, and that it was the most marvelous thing that could ever be imagined, and that the creation is perfect.
And by that I mean it has built within it the means of surviving any kind of a challenge, including even itself.
Nature, to me, always survives and somehow prospers.
It can be...
I mean, a storm can come along, but that's nature too.
It can devastate a forest.
It can destroy a mountain.
A volcano can erupt.
With the passage of time, it returns to its pristine glory again.
So I think there's something in the human nature that surely is there if we can find it and follow it to deal with this challenge that we're dealing with today.
So it seems like you're alluding to more of a consciousness awakening and perhaps in order to get there we've got to go through these birthing pains of seeing just how fraudulent and corrupt all of these systems are.
And I think that's a really wonderful observation on your part.
And by the way, I don't think a lot of Americans could have ever believed A year ago, that they themselves would believe what they believe today.
Because they've been red-pilled for the last year.
And it's been quite a ride.
Yes, it's the old idea.
Here we go into philosophy again.
But the yin and the yang...
The positive and the negative.
You cannot have positive without negative.
It can't exist.
You cannot have up without down.
You cannot have left without right.
And all of these things, it seems like the whole universe is filled with those little conundrums.
There are opposites in everything, equal and opposite forces.
So you cannot have good without evil.
You cannot have freedom without tyranny.
And it gets kind of tough when you start thinking about that because that means that it's part of the plan to have tyranny and suffering and destruction.
Oh my gosh, that couldn't be part of the plan, could it?
Well, maybe, just maybe, it is.
So that out of that people can appreciate The good.
And they can decide to make a stand on the side of good.
If everything, if life didn't have these challenges, then it would be kind of boring, come to think of it.
But so much of tyranny is human-inflicted.
You know, it's not necessary.
Humans have free will.
And so individuals based on self-interest and greed are inflicting tyranny upon others.
And that's what we're fighting against.
I think, couldn't we have a world without tyranny if If people shared the common consciousness of liberty?
Well, I'd like to think so, but unfortunately you and I are not making the rules at the point of creation.
The answer may be no.
Maybe that tyranny is part of the essential plan.
We don't understand how big that plan really is.
So it could be that it's like the lion chasing after the deer.
Maybe the lion doesn't really need it for food, but that's what the lion does.
And so, does that seem fair?
No, it's not.
But it's somehow part of nature.
And out of that, the deer get smarter and smarter and smarter over thousands and thousands of years, and the lion has a harder and harder time catching them.
And, of course, then the lions get smarter and smarter, too.
I understand how that works.
Anyway, we're off the track.
You get my point.
I keep looking for something that we don't yet understand.
That is bigger than our logic and our experience that maybe is waiting to be tapped into.
However, let me say this.
I'm not waiting for that.
I'm dealing with this issue as best I can with what I know and the strategies I know.
And I think if we wait around for some kind of bolt of lightning to come down from heaven, it's going to be a long, long wait.
Yeah.
No need to wait for that bolt of lightning when you've got a bolt carrier group in your AR-15 already.
Right.
Okay, let's talk about redpilluniversity.org.
That's your website.
Give us a little overview of what people can find there.
Why should they go there?
What are they going to learn?
Red Pill University is part of the Red Pill Project, which includes not only the university, but the Red Pill Expo as well.
And those two movements are an offshoot of something else called Freedom Force International, which, of course, you know very well.
You're part of it.
But most people wonder what's all this about, these three different groups.
A quick explanation is that we recognized that A long time ago, we recognized that history is always written by the few.
The sleeping masses, as Max calls them, never write history.
They watch history, they participate in it, but they never create it.
History is always written by the dedicated few, less than 3%.
The way I see it, there's about 1% of the population that are the real thought leaders.
If you take a look at the American Revolution, how many men can you think of that led the revolution and caused it to happen?
How many people signed the Declaration of Independence and wrote the pamphlets and really were the leaders?
Probably you could put all their names on one piece of paper.
But they gathered around them another percentage of the population, probably about 15%, that said, yes, that's what I believe, and I'm willing to fight for that too.
And that 15% dominated.
The other 85%, even in the American Revolution, Waiting around.
Well, I wonder who's going to win.
I think I'll just hold back.
Because whichever side wins, that's the side I'm going to say I was always on.
And this is the story of history.
So when we worry about what we're going to do, we know that we have to have the permission and the support of that 85%.
But the real movers and shakers are 15%, and out of those, there's the 1% that'll set the pace.
Now, the reason that's important to me is because at Red Pill University, we've got the 1%.
Well, we don't have all of them, but that's what we are at the Red Pill University, the 1% that we've devoted our lives to this thing.
I mean, we live and eat and breathe and sleep these issues.
They're easy to identify because when you get to talking to them, it doesn't take long before you're on topic and you're off and running and that's all we want to talk about.
And so we got that in place and I got to thinking, well, that's not enough.
We now need to reach out.
Where are those other 15%?
We've got to have some means of reaching out to those that are just waiting and hungry for this information, but maybe not are not dedicated as deeply as we are.
So I thought, well, how do we...
Follow the strategies of our opponents.
And they have what they call rings within rings within rings.
And they have little groups in the center that dominate larger groups, which dominate larger groups.
And way on the outside, you've got the political parties.
And somewhere in the middle, you've got the Council on Foreign Relations.
And you go in further than that, and you've got the round tables and so forth.
So I borrowed that and said, why don't we create a ring, a little broader ring of support around us, that would be advocating exactly the same principles.
But we will popularize the information a little bit so that it doesn't require so much time and so much scholarship.
It's not so academic.
So I got to thinking, what about the red pill?
Everything that we're talking about at the highest level can be rephrased in terms of, take the red pill, man, and face reality.
See life the way it really is.
So we got the idea, why don't we create this Red Pill Expo and not talk about the Constitution or talk about the New World Order or not talk about supply and demand and all these technical things.
We're just talking about, are we being played for suckers?
Are they lying to us?
Are they cheating us?
And so forth.
And it worked.
It worked.
I was so happy.
We didn't have to sacrifice any principles at all.
We just...
Change the way we talk about them, that's all.
And that drew in that other 15% and quite a few beyond, by the way.
So we knew we had formula.
Now, then came the Red Pill University, which is the same thing as the Expo.
The Expo was a single event.
We wanted to do this every day, every day of the year.
So that's where the university comes in.
And if people go to Red Pill University now, they will see right now we're replaying all of the presentations made at the Red Pill Expo in Jekyll Island back in...
October 10th and 11th.
But you'll see all kinds of other materials there.
We're building what I think is already probably the world's largest repository of information of this kind.
But that's not the only thing.
It's valuable enough.
If you want it all together and it's all vetted and it's all described, I've taken a lot of time to analyze each piece that we put up.
And prepare a little synopsis of what it's about so you can tell in advance whether you want to spend an hour with this material or not.
Put a lot of information out there.
But that's not the real thing.
The real thing is we want people who...
Come to the point where they say, okay, all right, I got it.
I got it.
I don't need to look at another video.
I don't need to read another book.
I see what's going on in the world.
Now I want to do something about it.
And that's where the Red Pill University really comes into play, because we're just now a little bit late in the game, but we're just now beginning to build campuses, which will be established, we hope, in every county in the United States.
A campus organized by maybe a little cluster of five or six people.
We'll bring around them maybe 25 people and then reach out to the community and generate political action.
On behalf of candidates, issues, water issues, bond issues, and so forth.
Not focusing on the national issue, but what's happening right there in your local home.
And build a grassroots organization in every community, face-to-face, hands-to-hand, boots on the ground, just like our enemies have done.
Okay, I'll just stop there.
I want to just get the vision out there that this is big.
What we're talking about is just not come and learn more.
This is much more than just, oh, get another book or go to another meeting and get some more information.
This is about building a national organization and then international to push back and overcome and destroy these forces of collectivism.
Well, I love it.
I love your vision, G. Edward.
And I really want to encourage people to go to that website, redpilluniversity.org.
Check it out.
Become a member.
Watch some of the videos.
Read up and start organizing because you're right.
This is exactly how it needs to work is at the grassroots level all across the country, county by county.
And, of course, we are here to help support all of your efforts, G. Edward.
So feel free to reach out.
For us to cover editorially some of your new projects, as well as using our Brighteon.com video platform and our new Brighteon.social social media platform, which, by the way, you are free to copy and use the entire code base because we're going to be publishing the open source code for that very soon.
Very good.
Very good.
I'd be glad to do that.
In fact, I've been wanting to talk to you about that.
Oh, great.
Yeah, building alternative media, electronic media, is such an important thing, and I'm really delighted to see you in the forefront of that.
Congratulations.
That's, you know, that's the role that I've found that I need to play, is to build platforms to empower others to be able to speak, because I have a background in software and software production management, you know, R&D teams and so on.
So that's what I'm doing, you know, in addition to exercising my own voice, but I want other people's voices to have a place to be heard.
So, thank you so much, G. Edward.
Any final thoughts?
Final thoughts is that we wandered here and there.
I don't know what we covered, but I'll go back and play the video to see what I said.
I hope I don't have to be embarrassed by too much of it.
But I speak from the heart, and I know you do too.
And there's one thing about truth seekers is that we're not stuck on our own ideas.
We're open-minded.
And occasionally, to our great surprise, we actually change our opinions about something.
Yeah, that's true.
Isn't that an amazing thing?
Well, it shows that we have intellectual integrity to pursuing the truth, that we're not ideologues.
We're not left-wing cultists.
We actually examine the evidence and make decisions based on it.
Right.
So essential.
Well, anyway, thank you so much, and I guess we'll be doing one of these again someday soon.
We will indeed.
Thank you so much, G. Edward.
All right.
Thank you.
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