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May 3, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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We the People Convention Founder calls for martial law, NEW elections
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Welcome, everybody, to Bright Day on Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
Today we're joined by Tom Zawistowski, who is the president of the We The People Convention at wethepeopleconvention.org.
And his organization ran a full-page ad in the Washington Times, I think about a week ago, made a lot of waves calling for a new election in the United States because the previous election was so horrendously rigged and fraudulent in ways that we've talked about with other guests.
So, Tom is here joining us today to explain his idea and his organization's mission and why we should hold a new election for America's fair and free elections.
Tom, thank you for joining me today.
It's an honor to have you on.
Mike, glad to be with you.
I'm really looking forward to this conversation because we think we have an idea that has merit and I'd like to explain it to folks.
Well, you have the floor, sir.
Go right ahead.
Tell us what this is all about.
Okay.
So, you know, we've been going for months now after this election and we're going through all these courts and we're going through all these, you know, state courts and Supreme Court and everybody else.
But the problem for we the people is that we don't trust any of these people, right?
We've been so disappointed by the courts and by the election officials and by our legislatures and everybody like that.
And so, The problem we have in this country is that we're literally on the edge of civil war.
I mean, Mike, you know people, I know people who are buying guns that shouldn't be buying guns.
These are friends of mine who are like, no, no, you shouldn't have a gun because you can't handle that, right?
But they're afraid, and they're afraid of Antifa and BLM.
They're afraid they want to protect their family and their property and their business.
And on the other side, you've got Antifa and BLM saying, well, if Trump wins, we're going to burn down your cities.
In a civil society, Mike, you solve this by elections.
That's how we've kept it civil all these years.
But the problem is, if you have a faulty election, you actually aggravate that.
You're pushing people towards that.
So we're thinking, how can we solve this?
How can we bring both sides together?
And we basically started to look at history in our ad.
We had a full-page ad that we took in the Washington Times.
Oh, you can't see that too well.
Well, yeah, it just vanished.
Okay, the full-page ad we took in the Washington Times.
And we said, if you were, you know, it's Lincoln's time.
Exercising extraordinary authority in defense of our vote may be required because martial law is better than civil war.
And in our ad, we used Abraham Lincoln, who most Americans, including Barack Obama, think is our greatest president.
And we showed what he did to preserve the Union during the Civil War.
And what he did, we found interesting enough, because our education system doesn't teach history anymore, is that a lot of people were shocked because the first half of the ad talked about Lincoln Taking away habeas corpus, your rights to a trial, about Lincoln arresting newspaper owners and editors in the North for criticizing him, arresting an Ohio congressman, okay?
And our point was that in order to preserve the Union, Lincoln had to take extraordinary steps and declare martial law.
And what we're talking about is having Donald Trump Do something like that but really much more moderate.
So what we're asking Donald Trump to do, and this is the key point, if our legislators, if our state courts, if our Supreme Court do not follow the 12th Amendment, do not follow the process for solving the mess that we're in,
Then it is really required by Donald Trump to invoke a temporary, limited martial law in which the US military would be used to oversee a free and fair re-vote of all federal elections.
That doesn't mean that there's tanks in the streets and the military is going to install Donald Trump, you know, dictator for life.
No, in the ad, it actually says, and President Trump, when he does this, will declare that the martial law only lasts as long as it takes to have the vote count, and whenever the vote comes out, he must step down if he doesn't win or he's president if he does.
So that's kind of the concept, and Mike, the reason for it is, About the only institution left that we trust is the US military.
It's about all we got left.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, the local elections officials are so corrupted.
They are conspiring, especially since it's usually Democrats that are counting the votes for some reason.
And they have no morals, no ethics.
Just being a member of the Democrat Party almost requires that you be a dishonest person these days.
That's a good point.
And quite frankly, this is, in our kind of form of government, a republic, Mike, you can't have that.
You have to trust your institutions, right?
You have to trust them.
And they have eroded our trust in our institutions.
Like this Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling that even though their legislature, the rules of their election say that you have to have a person from each party watch the vote count, they actually ruled that that means that not that you can see the actual vote, but you just have to be in the building.
How can any of your listeners say, oh yeah, that's the same thing to say.
And this is the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
This isn't some crazy official somewhere.
That's crazy.
What about an alternate idea of just having the military seize The ballots and the machines that were already used in the election that took place and then simply recount those ballots and toss out the ones that are obviously fraud.
It's pretty easy to spot those.
They have no creases.
The signatures are all the same and so on.
Without even staging a new vote, couldn't Trump have the military authorized to seize and recount the ballots that are out there?
Or is that Not a good idea.
That's a great question.
Here's my answer to this.
I'll use an example from business.
If you're a software engineer and maybe you run Amazon's website and you add a whole bunch of new features to it and you release it to the public and the whole system crashes, What do you do?
You revert back to the last known working version of that software so you can be sure that you've got that baseline.
Well, what we just did in this election, we just, and they did it intentionally, there's no doubt about it, the Democrats put in all kinds of new features like, let's mail out millions of ballots to people that don't request them.
Let's set signatures.
Let's change the dates.
Let's have them come afterwards.
And they crashed our electoral system.
So what do we want to do?
We want to revert back to the last known functioning system.
You know what that is?
Paper ballots.
What we're asking the military to do, to have its paper ballots, its vote in person, you have to have a photo ID, you have to be a registered person, They're watching.
There's a person watching both, you know, Republican and Democrat watching the vote being counted.
It's hand counted with no computers.
And at the end of the day, we know who won.
That's a fair election.
And we know that from history.
And that's what we need is a baseline.
And the other part of it, Mike, is this isn't about Donald Trump.
This is about us, our election process.
This is about a representative republic.
So here's the bottom line.
They've been cheating for decades.
We know that.
They've been cheating.
And they cheated in congressional races and Senate races.
So what we're saying is we want to have a recount of the whole federal election.
Because think about it, Mike.
Most people, it's going to be two questions.
Who do you want for president of Congress?
Maybe you've got a senator.
Three questions.
Maybe you've got two congressmen.
Some places have that.
Four questions.
Real simple.
Four little bubbles.
Write with a number two pencil or whatever and do it.
But then, no one can question it.
And what I think is going to happen, Mike, why I don't want to go into the machines and try to figure this out, I want to show just how fraudulent this whole thing is across the nation.
Across the nation.
And then, once you have a president, you know that, and you've elected a Congress in the Senate fair and square, then we don't need martial law.
Now we have our other laws where we can investigate the fraud that was taking place.
We can investigate the machines.
We can start to rebuild truth and belief in our institutions.
We think that's worth a lot.
And we think declaring martial law on a limited temporary basis to do that is not dramatic or drastic at all.
It's a hell of a lot better than having judges and courts and legislators and governors and secretaries of states and Rudy Giuliani and the Supreme Court and local political hacks and local political parties and the media and Antifa deciding who's the president.
We don't want that.
We, the people, want to elect the president of the United States.
We want to vote as a mayor.
But you mentioned the media, and the media, in my view here, the media are enemy combatants.
They are enemies of this nation.
They are working against this republic and trying to...
Well, they're really complicit in the stealing of the election in so many ways.
The minute Trump were to declare something like what you're suggesting, the media would say, well, Trump has just declared himself a military dictator.
And that if Trump were to win the new vote, then the media would proclaim that that was the fraudulent one.
And the one that they had cited before was the real one.
And then they would say Trump is a fake president.
It seems like, well, they're going to do that anyway.
But it seems like you can't really hold...
Those are good questions.
Let me answer them.
Those are two really important things.
Okay?
So let me answer two things.
Well, geez, I thought you said that Joe Biden won by 10 million votes.
It wasn't even close.
So what are you afraid of?
Let's prove it.
Number two, I've been involved with the Tea Party for 11 years.
I was the lead plaintiff in the IRS, Obama administration's IRS target of the Tea Party as the president of the Ohio Liberty Coalition.
I fought that SOB in court for six years.
Wow, and Lois Lerner too, right?
And Lois Lerner.
We have Jay Sekul and Jordan Sekul from the ACLJ. We fought for six years.
We beat them in that lawsuit, and we won a second lawsuit in Cincinnati in the federal courts.
We won $3 million in settlement over this.
I know these people.
I know how to fight them.
So all your listeners, listen up real careful.
What I've learned about politics, it's not a game of influence.
It's a game of force.
It's real simple.
The media can complain all they want.
The left can complain all they want.
The Republican rhinos can complain all they want.
Everyone can complain all they want.
The Constitution gives Donald Trump, as president, the right to declare martial law, and as long as the military goes along with them, We're good to go.
Donald Trump, by declaring martial law, he can stop him, and that's what he should do, and the military should be honored to do it.
Because, Mike, the President, the military, all police officers, all elected officials, all judges, swear an oath to do what?
Protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
What could be more in line with that oath than the President of the United States Declaring martial law not to overthrow a fair election, like all dictators do, but to hold a fair election.
And what could be more important for the military to uphold their oath than to be the ones responsible to defend the Constitution by overseeing a fair election?
That's why this is a good idea, because it's based in the Constitution.
Well, everything you say makes sense.
I still say you have to seize the complicit enemy media first.
Because if you don't, then they're going to set the narrative.
And you have to seize Twitter, Facebook, Google, and YouTube because they...
I mean, think about it.
YouTube says you can't even post a video now that questions the rigged election.
Unbelievable.
I mean, it's an act of war against America.
It's an act of treason.
What did Lincoln do?
Lincoln did shut down newspapers.
That's right.
And that's what needs to happen.
I think if the president did this, he could do several things.
First of all, he would say to the military, and I did check, okay, with General Flynn before I ran this ad about the military.
Would they do this?
Because I didn't want to get too unhinged here.
I didn't want to put the military in a position they didn't want to be in.
But the president would say, because the courts have not followed the Constitution and we have not gotten a fair election, I'm declaring a temporary limited martial law in which the military is going to oversee an election.
We are putting all the courts and stuff now are not able to function until martial law is over.
And we're going to make the military do this.
And then We're going to shut down CNN, MSNBC, Fox, you know, all these people to say you cannot have any opinion pieces, and we're going to say that Facebook and Twitter and those people must let everyone post whatever they want.
There's no censorship.
There's no nothing.
It's a free speech zone.
That's what martial law is.
And that's what martial law is.
Look, in a podcast that I did months ago, I said that President Trump needs to, in fact, declare something similar and force big tech to allow free speech for a period of one year before we hold elections.
I mean, we have to be able to debate ideas, otherwise the mechanism of democracy doesn't even function.
It's contingent upon us.
They should have done it a long time ago, Mike.
Come on.
This is absurd.
The Republicans are just taking massive bribes from big tech.
It's that simple.
Okay?
It's that simple.
They bought them off.
And I credit Trump again for saying he won't sign a defense bill unless they take out Section 230.
But that's not enough.
I mean, Mike, it's real simple.
I don't even want any trust action against Facebook and Google and all that.
You know what I want?
I want them to become a public utility.
They need to become like the gas company.
Would I pay 50 bucks a month so that I could send emails that you actually got and when you wrote back I actually got like the mail?
You bet I would because they're censoring 80% of my emails now.
Would I pay 50 bucks a month like I do for cable so that I can have a social media page where I can put pictures of my family having Christmas and Thanksgiving up and the people in my family could see them and I could see their stuff, but it was on my hard drive and it wasn't being mined for data?
You bet.
They need to be a public utility.
We'll agree.
Trump is working to eliminate Section 230.
But don't forget, most of these were started by the CIA in one way or another.
And their main function is to spy on the American people and gather intelligence.
They're not even really about making money.
It's a surveillance grid.
And that's why they have so much support from the swamp.
But let me ask you a practical question.
What about timing?
because the Constitution says that the president's current administration ends on January 20th.
You know, he doesn't automatically get an extension.
I mean, you know, his term ends January 20th.
What about that?
Now, I really believe, I mean, heck, we just delivered supposedly a vaccine in like, what, five months or seven months, okay?
So when you're trying to do a re-vote when there's four questions, you could do that in a couple of weeks.
I mean, the question is how long does it take to print the forms, okay?
So we could have a vote before Christmas, or a great date would be the Tuesday after Christmas, Christmas and New Year's, December 29th.
Let's have that vote, baby, because the real date that matters is January 20th.
That's the date that really matters, okay?
So the key point is, people say, well, why are you declaring martial law?
That's so scary.
And the answer is, because you really can't do it unless you declare martial law, because you need to suspend the Constitution so you can delay some of these things and have time to do it.
Okay?
And so, I mean, if Trump said, well, this doesn't look right, and the majority of the polls are already saying that people don't trust the election, and he said, let's have a re-vote, Mike, you know that tomorrow there'd be 700 lawsuits by the left, and every court no demand to make sure it takes five years to do it.
And there'd be a judge in Hawaii that would...
You've got to declare martial law, and you've got to say, we're going to have this, it's going to be fair, everyone's going to be treated the same, and we're going to know who won, and then we're going to move forward with our country.
I think that's the best way to go.
Okay, so then a critical question for you on this.
When you declare martial law and suspend the Constitution, how do we know we're ever going to get it back?
Because even Abraham Lincoln, back in the 1860s, I recall reading that the people of Missouri at that time, they really loved the martial law so much because their politicians were so corrupt that martial law was the only way they could function as a society.
They didn't want to give it up.
How do we make sure that we return to civil government after that?
Yeah, and that's a great question.
And so what does it all come down to?
It really comes down to we the people, right?
Because we formed this government to serve us, and it is supposed to function at the consent of the governed.
And if it ceases to do so, our founders said we should dissolve the government, right?
And reestablish a new government.
The answer to your question is that we the people need to say, you're going to stop it.
Because here's the problem.
One way or the other, we're heading for civil war if we don't get some bloody leadership.
I'm trying to stop people from being killed in the streets.
I'm trying to find a way that we can all come together at a baseline that we say the military can be trusted and we can do this.
My answer to your question is, from what I understand, the military would not go beyond that, beyond martial law.
But here's the point.
If it goes and Trump wins, the left could mobilize their Antifa and BLM troops in these Democratic cities, and Trump would have to call out troops to do that.
But he wouldn't have to do that under national martial law.
He wouldn't have to do that in this martial law.
He could do it regionally, by city, by state.
Because martial law has been, again, folks, this is not a crazy idea.
They've invoked martial law 68 times.
68 times.
And mostly it's regional and localized, but it's not something that's not been used before.
So there's a danger, Mike, I understand, but I think the danger is a lot less on what I'm proposing than on what's about to happen, because if the Supreme Court flips this, there's going to be people really mad on the other side.
If they don't flip it, I know what's going to happen on our side.
Yeah, I've got a lot...
I've got questions about that.
The left, I think, would stage a mass uprising even if Trump simply declared this limited martial law that you're talking about.
And I can see leftists bombing voting centers and doing things like that.
So it seems like it would naturally bend towards having more aggressive troops on the streets in order to protect the voting centers and protect communities and so on.
And very quickly, you're sliding down that spectrum Toward, you know, armored personnel carriers on the streets, Humvees with 50 cows, you know, and it looks like a military zone just to hold an election.
Now, maybe you're right in that that's what's necessary, but aren't there ways that Trump could accomplish this without suspending habeas corpus?
I mean, invoking the Insurrection Act, for example, or invoking precedents that were set war powers acts by Lincoln himself.
I mean, he doesn't have to suspend the Constitution to get this done, does he?
Well, see, and I've had people bring that up, and that's a real concern to us, because that Insurrection Act, you know, the bill that he signed, that executive order that talked about foreign interference and things like that, That baby's a nasty piece of work.
I mean, that's locking people up, right, Mike?
Yeah, it is.
The military's coming to take you out of your house.
To me, that was more dangerous than what we're talking.
Now, again, it all depends on messaging, and you were right about the main thing.
If the left, if people are going to speak out and try to incite rioting because of this and say, hey, this is Trump trying to be a dictator, You know what?
They have to be arrested.
They have to be shut up.
You can't have insurrection.
You can't have people stoking the flames.
What you need is people like me and people like Mike saying, hey, listen, this is a fair idea.
Let's do a vote and let's see what happens.
There's no reason to burn anything down because no one's infringing on your rights.
They're giving you your rights.
Let's cool our jets.
But it's going to take people to be civil.
And the problem in our country is we've got people who are driving the violence and they're speaking freely.
And Mike, that should have never happened.
That should have been stopped years ago.
And it's really scary to me that A.G. Barr and the FBI and the CIA and all the alphabet soup, that they're actually seeming to be playing a role in this.
I mean, we can't even have a bloody postal inspector look at people who saw them backdating ballots, treat it like a real investigation.
They're interrogating the witnesses like they're the criminals.
We got massive, deep problems in our country.
We got to find a baseline to come together as citizens.
And I think that's why I'm proposing when I'm proposing.
Well, you know, The tree of liberty, as they say, must be refreshed from time to time.
When the corruption is so bad, how do you invoke a higher authority to come in and clean out that corruption when the judges are corrupt and the election officials are carrying out fraud right on camera?
You know, rolling out suitcases full of ballots.
They're not even hiding it, right?
When the CIA is reportedly altering votes from overseas server farms and just injecting hundreds of thousands of votes, I mean, it's blatant fraud.
It's blatant.
So clearly something has to be done.
I'm just exploring with you some of the options.
What about the Supreme Court case that's pending now?
It's on the docket.
Texas, plus I think 18 states in support, six or seven other states have now requested to enjoin that lawsuit, as well as the president himself.
By all accounts, that's got a solid basis, rationality, for the arguments of Texas.
Shouldn't Trump give that a chance to succeed first, in your opinion, or should he not wait?
No, I think this is the tipping point.
I think we are literally within days of figuring out whether we still have a country or not.
Yes.
Because you're exactly right.
Mark Levin had this on his show.
This is as black and white as it can be.
It's real simple.
The federal and state constitutions say the only voting rules you can follow are the ones passed by the legislature.
It's that simple.
And it's clear as day that in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, the governor, the secretary of state, the attorney general, the courts didn't do that.
Election officials didn't do that.
They violated that.
So you can't be any clearer.
What would trigger what we think Trump should do?
Because in our ad, it says, if the legislatures and the courts and the Supreme Court do not follow the Constitution, you must immediately invoke martial law.
If the Supreme Court, for instance, tonight says, we're not going to take this case up, We're just not going to handle it because they're afraid to be the ones that make the decision.
Well, then we've got a real problem because now we're trying to decide.
What your listeners need to understand and viewers need to understand is this.
This case decides whether we are still a nation of laws or if we are a nation of men, ruled by men.
They don't take this case and they don't look in the black and white text of the Constitution and say, yeah, this is a no-brainer.
You violated the law.
Your election is unconstitutional.
Your legislature needs to fix it.
If they don't do that, then we are now a nation of men, meaning politics.
And we're done.
We're done at that point.
If Joe Biden becomes president through this process, he will not be president of the United States.
He will be president of some global socialist communist entity with no electoral college, no first or second amendment, has open borders, has people voting who aren't citizens, who literally is something that is not the United States.
Yeah, yeah.
And he needs to defend our Constitution because the only way to keep the United States is if we have a Constitution.
He's obliged.
He's duty bound to defend the Constitution based on his oath of office.
But something you mentioned earlier, I agree with.
If this election theft is allowed to succeed, and it is outrageous theft, the media is trying to cover it up, big tech is trying to cover it up, they've succeeded to some extent.
A lot of mainstream Americans have no clue that this election was stolen.
They have no idea.
But there are millions of informed, well-armed patriots who are well aware, and this is their line in the sand.
If Biden is sworn in, I believe that this country will be launched into a bloody civil war almost immediately.
And understand that's what you're trying to prevent, correct?
And that's what we're trying to stop, okay?
I think there's some steps between that.
You know, you've heard the term, which I never heard until this summer, color revolution, which is what our CIA and NSA do in foreign countries like Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, and South American countries, right?
And I've studied that.
And what I've seen about that is that often it is a popular uprising that decides how that plays out.
So, for instance, You know, we just can't let this happen.
In other words, we will not accept anything but a fair election.
That's just plain and simple.
Now, the Chinese, who are behind all this, want a shooting war.
They would love nothing better than for Americans to be shooting Americans dead.
It's a perfect scenario.
These guys are so smart, and as you watch the Tucker Carlson expose about China owning all our political people, You can understand that they are literally on the verge of destroying America without firing a shot, just by bribing people and creating insurrection.
We don't want that.
So here's an option, right?
It's real simple.
All government, Mike, comes down to force.
If the local police officer will not shoot you dead if you don't stop beating your wife or robbing this store, you have no government.
All government is based on force.
That's just the bottom line, okay?
Now, what force do the people have?
The people are in a situation where, as I like to put this, they want to have their new reset, right, Mike?
They want to do this reset where we're going to have socialism and get rid of capitalism and all that stuff.
I don't remember voting for that.
Did you vote for that on your ballot?
No, definitely did not vote for that.
So let me explain something that's real simple.
It's real simple.
We make everything.
They don't.
They make stock trades.
They make bank transfers.
They make insurance policies.
We grow the food they eat.
We pull out of the ground the oil and gas that fuels their cars, heats their homes, and powers their beloved internet.
We drive the trucks that transports the stuff that we make that goes to the stores that we stock and service that they buy so they can live.
So guess what?
I said earlier, politics is a game of force, not influence.
We're not asking you to have a second election.
We're telling you.
It's real simple.
You're going to have a second election, a fair election, that the military runs, or you're going to be eating dirt.
You are going to eat dirt.
Because guess what?
All those essential employees that you picked who, by the way, just happen to provide you with all the food and comforts you need to get by in your government job so that you cannot teach their children, right?
But I'm going to feed your children because your school won't have my kids in class.
Yeah.
The people we're going to have is going to be a work stoppage.
We're going to do a work stoppage.
And we're going to see who's in charge here.
Because here's a message.
We run this country.
You serve us.
You don't rule over us.
And it's a hell of a long time past due before we the people stood up and made that clear that we're not sheep.
We're in charge, and we're going to show you, because all we have to do is stop making stuff.
Because we're not slaves.
You can't make me work.
You can't tell me I've got to work.
I can say, I'm going to withhold my labor until you wise up and understand you're going to give us what we want, or you're going to eat dirt.
Well, I mean, you make a point.
All of these elitists who live in these capital cities, those are all artificial.
They require food, electricity, fuel, water to be imported in most cases for those cities to survive.
It's not even that difficult, you know, theoretically, for people to block highways or shut down power substations or things like that.
But, you know, That's that's you'd have to have a lot of like a critical mass of people participating in that.
And at the same time, all those workers would be hurting themselves because so many Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Would they be prepared to survive a many months long siege of sorts?
That's what you're talking about is siege warfare, essentially.
I don't think it would last that long because they basically have no way to take care of themselves.
Our people have been pretty smart.
A lot of people I know have been putting stuff away and got to have some things together, right?
That's true.
We've been working on this for about eight years, okay?
And we're going to take care of our families.
And just because I'm not taking the food that I'm growing to give you in your grocery store in these metropolitan areas doesn't mean I'm not growing food, okay?
It's again, this whole COVID crap has been nothing other than class warfare.
Mike, it's real simple.
The only people paying for COVID are small businesses and blue collar workers.
Everybody else is getting a free pass.
Quite frankly, I think these two things are connected.
I think the anger is connected in the American people.
And with the latest stuff that's going on, there's real concern on my part that this is really a global assault on capitalism.
Because they're trying to wipe out every small business.
Every rule they make is against small business and against the middle class.
I don't think there's coincidences in politics.
I haven't seen that much.
So it's time for us to stand up.
What I'm trying to do is do it as simply and as quickly as we can.
Let's try this martial law re-vote thing.
Get the real president and real House of Congress elected because I think the numbers will stun people.
I think the left is nowhere near as big as they pretend to be.
There's nowhere near.
There's way more of us than we ever know.
They don't want you to know that.
A free and fair vote would show that.
And then I think we would have the moral authority to How about let's appoint Sidney Powell as a special counsel to investigate voter fraud?
How much fun would that be?
How about if we start to go and just have an investigation of all the communist Chinese influence in Washington and in our country and start arresting the people at our universities and stuff?
How much fun would that be?
The answer would be, that's the way America should work, and it would start with this idea I have, versus going to the full Civil War.
Well, some of that has already begun.
We've seen arrests in the universities, and I would say just in the last two weeks, there's a lot of information coming out about ties to China.
Even Representative Swalwell has been exposed as being ensnared by a Chinese honeypot spy.
And things like that are now going big.
But let me ask you this question.
Since you ran that full-page ad and you put this idea out there...
What has been the response, if any, from people tied to the administration?
Is there any openness to explore this as a possibility?
Yeah, I think, you know, what we saw happen was, if you remember, the president was looking pretty down, you know, and we were getting messaging from the White House that literally, I mean, we were literally getting people in the White House saying, thank God you guys are fighting because we've all given up, okay?
And so, It isn't a coincidence that the day after our ad ran, the president gave that really strong speech that we hadn't heard since before the election.
Because it gave him an option that his people weren't smart enough to come up with.
It gave him an idea that, hey, you know what, I might have some leverage here.
And for a guy like, you know, Donald Trump, the art of the deal, leverage is the big deal, right?
So we think it helped in that regard.
Now, of course, they all poo-pooed it.
Oh my gosh, Marker Law, you're nuts.
That Tom Zalastowski did a nut job.
Well, I got news for you, man.
We've had, Mike, one million people come to our website in a week.
A million people.
We've had 65,000 people go to wethepeopleconvention.org and sign the petition for Trump to declare martial law.
When I was on One America News a few nights ago talking about this, Twitter lit up after I got off.
And if you went to Twitter and searched on martial law and latest, every two seconds people were saying, declare martial law and have a fair vote by the military.
And they were all copying at real Donald Trump.
Okay?
It's been overwhelming.
People get it.
They're looking for real answers instead of political bullshit.
Okay?
And they're sick and tired of the hot potato.
Because again, the Supreme Court...
They're cowards.
They're cowards and they're compromised.
So what can we expect for them?
At best, they're going to just kick it down the road.
They're going to throw it to the legislature and say, you deal with it.
And the legislators are going, we ain't going to deal with it.
We're going to make the Congress deal with it.
And then, boy, you and I really trust those congressmen, right?
All those Republican congressmen?
Yeah, that'll be great.
You bring up a really important point in all of this.
All of these legislators are afraid because they're being terrorized by these left-wing forces, by Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and so on.
That actually makes the case for Trump declaring the insurrection or perhaps, as you say, some form of...
Lawlessness, right?
Right.
It is lawless.
You have a right to declare martial law.
You do.
Civil unrest, see?
Right.
Mike, what the hell kind of country you live in where you have people...
Literally threatening the lives of elected officials and nothing happens?
I know.
It's incredible.
The guy is telling us nothing to see here?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
How dare you?
That's bullcrap.
That's what's really wrong with this.
And that's why Donald Trump is different than them.
And that's why Donald Trump can do this.
Because Donald Trump is a man of his word and understands law and order and isn't going to defund the police.
He understands you don't have society without the police.
We are on the brink of losing our damn country if we don't find some answers and take some gutsy action.
And I'm just telling you, I hope your viewers at the end of this thing are starting to think, you know, that Tom Zostowski, he's not as crazy as he looks.
Well, the reason we have you on is because your idea is worth considering and it's being openly discussed by a lot of people right now.
And frankly, you know, what are the options?
Let me ask you about troop movement here in the continental United States because there have been a lot of confirmed reports of airlifts into Nellis Air Force Base, for example, troop movements and the positioning of personnel, even medical facilities, intelligence units into local What do
you suppose that's about?
Well, I've also heard some things about Chinese troops on the Mexican border, right?
And Chinese taking action, right?
Because again, this is all about World War III. We're fighting World War III against the Chinese.
They are trying to make this happen.
And my gosh, the idea that Joe Biden could be President of the United States after what we know about his involvement with the Chinese, or Kamala Harris, Whose husband's firm employs CCP members and helps China get deals in Western countries, right?
We're going to make them in charge of the United States over our dead bodies, okay?
So, you know, I don't know what's really going on there, but I do know that we aren't going to get through this without courage and conviction like our founding fathers had and like Abraham Lincoln had.
The time for this wussy stuff is over with.
Words.
Stop it.
No words.
Actions.
Great, courageous, patriotic action is what is required.
And I think Donald Trump is the person that can do that.
And I think the people who listen to your show and watch your show are the people who can do that.
This cannot stand no matter what the cost.
It's that simple.
Well, and you bring up a really good point there, that essentially, even if Trump doesn't take action, we the people can.
In fact, we the people must.
And that's the last option here.
I mean, yeah, we have a Supreme Court option.
We have Trump maybe invoking Cyber Warfare, National Security Provisions, Insurrection Act, perhaps, like you say, limited martial law.
But if they all fail to do that, it's we the people.
Guess what?
We the people are heavily armed.
All across the country, and we the people are tired of the tyranny and the election rigging and the lockdowns that make no scientific sense whatsoever.
It's enough.
The corruption is too much.
We must abolish this system and remake one that represents the interests of the people.
Period.
Absolutely.
Well said.
And let me just point something out.
Because they're causing this, right?
They're pushing us to this.
I mean, you talk about poking the bear.
I mean, they've been poking the bear on COVID and on the election and everything for a long time.
So they're pushing us to this.
But what they don't understand is Americans have always been hesitant to go to the fight in World War I, in World War II. We don't want to do it.
But I swear to God, when we come to the fight, we're going to bring the wrath of God down like no one can.
If we've got to fight the left in our country and the Chinese at the same time, you better believe that we're going to do it.
Freedom is in our soul.
We are a DNA that doesn't exist around the world.
And I'm getting letters.
I got a letter today that just almost made me cry from someone in Brazil.
I got another one from someone in Europe saying...
You guys got to win this because we're all going to die if you don't win this.
If you don't stand, if America does not win this fight, the light of the world goes out.
We know that.
We know that and we will fight that way.
And so I don't want that to happen.
But if it has to happen, then damn right we're going to win it.
Well, there are many voices out there that say they would rather have the fight, that it's time to have the fight, that there is no possibility of civil coexistence with these America-hating leftists who are demon creatures.
They chop up their own babies.
They hate God.
They hate the Constitution.
And they're all in league with China.
I mean, I've heard that argument from many people.
Well, I mean, Mike, there's a lot to be said for that.
I mean, to me, we're just so stupid.
We've just let them have so much freedom to destroy us that we've got to wise up.
Listen, I have on my radio show and my podcast, I have a slide that says, if you identify as or are found to be a socialist, a Marxist, or a communist, you must either be deported or charged with sedition.
No exception.
If my own son said he was a communist, I would turn him in and have him deported or charge a sedition.
We cannot have that in our society.
And it's not free speech.
The idea that the Communist Party USA has existed here for 50 years is mind-blowing.
What the hell are you talking about?
Go look at their website.
Their goal is to overthrow our way of life.
Yeah, well, and that means...
We're going to have to clean out the college campuses then, the universities, because you talk about a bunch of Marxists and communists.
Basically, those are indoctrination hubs right now for communism.
They're brilliant.
Mike, they're brilliant.
They get us to pay for them.
We're funny.
It'd be like us fighting World War II and sending Hitler a billion dollars every month to help him build tanks and stuff.
That's what we do.
The whole left, when the Tea Party started, I kept saying, what's wrong with this picture?
Like, you know, we're going to a protest, and we've got to take a day off from work and pay for our own bus ticket, buy our own lunch, okay, and do our own thing.
And then we're seeing all these teachers' unions where the buses are paid for, they're getting new t-shirts, you know, everything's paid for.
And that's what they've done.
They've used our government to fund the destruction of our government.
Plus, they hate Trump because he was trying to stop that.
And don't forget the corporations are also funding radical left-wing communists and Marxists.
I mean, you've got Coca-Cola, McDonald's, Netflix, Home Depot, Disney, all the big corporations.
They're all funding leftists and terrorists in many cases.
That's who they're funding.
But these leftists have never...
If they fund BLM, right?
Exactly.
That's what I'm talking about.
Right?
It's real simple.
So we have laws for that.
We call it the RICO Act, right?
You're not allowed to pay someone to kill me, okay?
The RICO Act says that's how they got the mob, right?
If you gave them money, you can be, you know, arrested and charged too.
So where is it?
Where is the RICO Act?
See, we have laws, we're just not enforcing them.
So what has to happen?
We have to enforce them on our law enforcement.
I believe that what Chris Farrell from the Judicial Watch said a couple years ago, the FBI needs to be disbanded.
You need to completely disband the FBI and have the U.S. Marshals Service grow itself to do the functions of the FBI, because you can't fix it.
Don't tell me that Sean Hannity always gives you the rank and file, the FBI guys are great.
The fish sticks from the head down.
You can't have people in the FBI with Jim Comey and McCabe and those crooks at the top who aren't crooks too.
The fish sticks from the head down.
We have to do that.
Trump had talked about a great idea, which I support 100%, early in his first year.
He talked about moving federal government agencies out of Washington.
Right.
Putting the EPA in Oklahoma City or the Commerce Department in Chicago or in Pittsburgh because we've got to break up this sick place that is Washington, D.C. that just doesn't serve us but feeds off of us.
Why do you think they're the richest area in the country?
Because they're stealing all our money.
Yeah, well, it's the capital city.
It's like Hunger Games.
You know, they keep the rest of the country in poverty, enslaved, locked down in their cities now with government enforcers and mask mandates.
It's right out of dystopian science fiction at this point, while the capital city is rolling in all the cash, printing money, handing it out to their friends, all of that.
So, yeah, clearly something big has got to change.
And it's also worth noting that these radical leftists, Antifa, Black Lives Matter and so on, they've never actually been engaged by anyone.
The only reason they've, quote, succeeded is because all the police are given orders to stand down.
You know, if if no one resists you, you can appear to succeed and conquer city blocks in Seattle and Portland and set up autonomous zones.
Well, guess what happens the minute somebody, even a small team of Marines, decides to return fire?
Oh, game over.
Right.
Mike, here's the actual truth about the left.
They're cowards.
They've never won a fair fight.
They can only win when it's stacked in their favor.
That's the reality of it.
And that's why they couldn't handle Trump.
Because even when they had it stacked in their favor, Trump would kick their butts.
Okay?
So, yeah, Antifa.
Give me this, right?
A bunch of college kids are going to go after and fight a bunch of people who grew up on farms, were hunting and doing stuff, and know how to fight.
Give me a break.
You have no chance.
It's all an illusion.
It's all an illusion.
And that's what they're good at.
Manipulating words, manipulating images, making themselves look big when they're small.
Right.
Again, the Republicans just buy it, hook, line, and sinker.
Oh, the media criticized you, you should resign from office.
In the meantime, Swalwell sweeping with a frickin' Chinese agent, okay?
And nobody wants to do anything about that.
It's stupid.
We gotta wake up and we gotta start holding people accountable, meaning we the people have to do that.
Well, among those lines then, and to wrap this up, what can people do, aside from going to your website, wethepeopleconvention.org, what action items could people take to support this idea of a new election?
What can people do?
Yeah, and I need their help, and I need very specific things.
So we've been having people call and write the White House at whitehouse.gov slash contacts, where you can actually leave a message for the president, and we want you to say, President Trump, we want you to declare limited martial law to have the military conduct a fair revote of all federal elections.
I want you to go to whitehouse.gov.contacts and do that.
I want you to call your congressman, and I want you to tell them the same thing.
I want you to say, we don't think this is a crazy idea.
We think this is the best way to avoid civil war, and we want you to support this.
So we need to start beating on them.
And then they need to start talking to each other about this idea of, if it comes down to it, would you participate in a work stoppage?
Would you park your truck?
Would you stop shipping your stock?
Would you not make what you make for a little while?
That sounds like the U.S. Postal Service every day.
That's true.
If they had a work stoppage, no one would notice.
You got that right.
But we can do that.
And I think what would happen is, Mike, we'll do it incrementally.
It would be, okay, you know, you guys, we're sick and tired of this, so we're going to send you a message.
On this day, we're going to do a complete work shutdown.
Our stores are going to be locked.
All the essential stores will be gone.
You can't get gas.
We're going to do it for one day.
Now, if you don't listen to us, then we're going to do it for a week.
Okay?
But as you start to show force, they will crumble because they're cowards.
They're cowards.
We're not.
We're not cowards.
The people who watch your show, people who listen to your show, they would die for this country.
They would die for their family.
They would die for their faith.
They're not cowards.
So...
At some point, you've got to prove it.
And we're maybe getting to that point.
I hope not, but we might be.
So get ready and let's do that step so we don't start shooting each other.
That's what I'd like to do.
Well, it brings even more focus to the SCOTUS decision as well.
I mean, that would be a way to circumvent all of these possibilities, but we can't have blind faith in the justices there either because they might be We're good to go.
Urge their representatives in D.C., senators, members of Congress, and most importantly, the president himself, who is the head of the executive branch, who can actually get this done.
Actually get a copy of the ad.
If you go to wepeopleconvention.org, you'll see this article that talks about the ad.
There's a press release.
And even on the petitions page, the links has petitions that you can sign.
There's a little logo or icon of the page.
If you click it, you can download a PDF and read it for yourself.
So do your research like we always do.
Don't just believe me.
Make me prove myself.
I think we've done that.
And if I did prove myself and you want to support us, please give me your name and phone number and stuff so I can contact you.
Because if we're going to do a word stoppage, I've got to be able to let you know.
So on the front page it says, give me your email and your phone number.
They're blocking so much of my emails that I have to do a lot of texting, but that's why I asked for your phone number, because maybe even next week I'm going to be taking a full-page ad that says, okay, we don't trust Congress to do the right thing, so we're calling for a work stoppage right before Congress has to certify these electors, just so they get the message that they better do the right thing.
It could be that soon.
All right.
It's right around the corner, folks.
So be ready for anything and take part in defending this nation in whatever way you do.
It's important to stand up right now.
That's for sure.
Tom, thank you so much for joining me.
Fascinating discussion.
And let's keep in touch about what's going on, because if you do announce a work stoppage, we want to cover that as well on our platform.
So please, please let us know.
We will definitely.
Thanks, Mike, for having me on the show.
Okay.
Thank you, Tom.
And thank you for watching.
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Thank you for watching.
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