Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 86: MR. HYDE'S BISEXUAL HEAD (MARCH 19TH, 2026)

April 17, 2026 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 86: MR. HYDE'S BISEXUAL HEAD (MARCH 19TH, 2026)

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Byron and Dennis dissect Steven Crowder's hypocrisy regarding his "Mr. Hyde" bisexual fears, contrasting them with Kat Abu Ghazaleh's primary loss and Ilhan Omar's defeat to Brandon Johnson. They analyze Caitlin Bennett's street survey revealing MAGA supporters as a greater threat than Islamists, while condemning Zoran's xenophobic claims of NYC being under foreign occupation. Ultimately, the hosts argue that political polarization stems from money in politics rather than religious differences, urging listeners to remove cash from elections instead of targeting specific faiths. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome Back to Louder Than Crowder 00:14:43
	This is an AudioWool original.
	Unsurprising, but sad.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder with Crowder.
	My name is Byron.
	I'm Dennis.
	Excuse me.
	Oh, sorry.
	Okay, Ari, Dennis.
	I'm good.
	What?
	Okay, Ari.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thanks for welcoming me back in Japanese again.
	I did it better this time.
	And of course, our Lone Star brother, holding it down in Occupied Texas, the Theo Vaughn of the left, fresh from the watering hole.
	It's Jared.
	Uh oh.
	There comes a time.
	Boys, comes a time when you gotta walk your way back to the old homestead, you know, before the totally really starts to hit you.
	Okay.
	Grab a couple slices, you know?
	Sure.
	So I might be like a little bit of Alex Jones on the Tim Pool.
	You know?
	There's nothing wrong with having a couple libations on a Thursday night, Jared.
	Why not?
	Joe Rogan's pussy.
	Yeah.
	Vagina.
	Vagina, exactly.
	Great.
	Yeah, those slices are eventually going to catch up.
	Yeah, he's stoking it up with crust.
	I think crust is the official sobering mechanism of the USA.
	Not sponsored by ZBiotics yet, but someday, I think.
	Happy to have you here, Jared.
	Happy to have you here, listeners.
	Dennis, you're on notice.
	And in case you're, I don't know.
	Okay.
	You're wearing a convince me otherwise hat.
	I am.
	I'm wearing our own merch.
	Kind of nice.
	I like to see it.
	You can go to, what's it?
	Can you do shop.letterthancrowder.com yet?
	I bet you can go to wokeyoutube.com, though.
	You can't go to wokeyoutube.
	You can go to audiowool.com and then click merch, I think.
	Maybe.
	In case you're a new listener and don't already know, when Steven Crowder isn't busy being fully mask off racist, throwing a fit because Piers Morgan wouldn't let him say the N word on his show, he's sexist, homophobic, and Islamophobic.
	He's a well rounded guy.
	He's consistent, that's for sure.
	Do you think mask off means anything else?
	Like, MASC off when he lets down his masculinity guard.
	We might get into that.
	Do you think he ever has like a bathtub?
	Like a bubble bath?
	He has a soak and watches a rom com when he's doing mask off.
	You know what I mean?
	No, that's, we'll get into it.
	Okay.
	Because it'd be something he would never touch publicly.
	No, no.
	Old hat, backwards hat.
	And really, that's actually the show that we have ahead of us today.
	The Thursday, March 19th episode Radical Islam versus MAGA.
	This is the Battle for America featuring New York City lawyer Jim Walden.
	I don't think we're going to get to that, but it's basically some classical Crowder.
	You know, I'll say that Radical Islam vs. Mega, This is the Battle for America, sounds like a skate video.
	Okay.
	Like it definitely sounds like.
	You sit on a zoomies' couch and.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like it's like two rival skate companies.
	Okay.
	Someone's knocking someone in the head with a truck.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The truck of a skateboard, huh?
	It's got like a.
	Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up!
	Of course.
	Yeah, Tony Hawk classic track.
	Boo doop, boo, boo, boo doop, boo doop, boo.
	Exactly.
	What beautiful scat ska we were doing there.
	You guys were having a lot of fun.
	Pick it up!
	Well, have a Fun while you can.
	I thought that this would feel better.
	It's not a fun episode.
	Just a heads up, I suppose.
	But we're having fun, right?
	We put $30 in the touch tunes and we put an all skull lineup on Play Next.
	Real Big Fish, Less Than Jake, Mustard Plugged.
	We are going hard.
	Catch 22 three times.
	311 when we slow it down.
	That's when I'm going to put my moves on Sandy.
	I love that.
	Yeah, it is always nice to start off light, though.
	We've got ourselves a green screened parody.
	It's been a bit.
	There, you your ship is violating our docks community guidelines.
	It'll be one shilling for the violations, and I shall have to have your name.
	How about three shillings?
	And we forget about the violations and the name.
	Well, welcome to YouTube, Mr. Smith, Captain Morgan.
	Yes, of course, Mr. Smith.
	But what about your vessel?
	Don't worry.
	We got a much nicer one down at the Rumble Docks.
	What kind of ship would that be?
	Well, it's certainly not a censorship.
	Okay, Dennis just passed away.
	Was that whole thing just a pun?
	Yeah, someone said censorship, and they're like, what if it was a literal ship?
	What if we made a literal ship and did a bad Pirates of the Caribbean?
	And those are the screenshots that you showed me.
	Yeah, those are green screens.
	Those look horrendous.
	Captain Morgan dressed up as a pirate, of course.
	Yeah.
	He's the giant.
	My face is.
	I smelled the worst.
	That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
	Old garbage on a hot day.
	That was bad.
	You know, it's like, at first it was Josh, and Josh, you know, it's like, eh, you know, whatever.
	He.
	Kind of does these things.
	It's fine.
	As soon as you introduce Gerald's voice, it definitely is because we do this show.
	He spends some amount of time with this guy.
	It's sort of like it changes the whole tone.
	It's not really a joke anymore.
	He's talking about censorship, no censorship, and he's giving Josh this money.
	And like, just we know what you do, we know what you're about outside of work.
	So, like, pirate times, you're trying to do these, you know, excuse me, censorship, not on Gerald Morgan's watch.
	And he's using his real name.
	It's just like, Well, he's dumb enough to do that.
	Yeah.
	He is.
	Listen, the whole thing is really, really dumb and bad.
	Captain Morgan Vacation, Captain Morgan iTunes at gmail.com.
	Well, I'm not going to say that, but I mean, yeah, basically.
	I'm mostly concerned about this whole thing, they're still talking about YouTube thing, because I thought that YouTube was dead and that Rumble did it, but it seems like they're back on YouTube.
	Of course they are, yeah.
	And is YouTube known for being like, they're loving it.
	We'll let go violations if you pay us money?
	It didn't make any sense.
	Known for taking bribes?
	I mean, they had an active lawsuit against YouTube for a very long time that went nowhere.
	That's where half Asian Bill Richmond was.
	Involved.
	And it's been years and there's been no resolution there.
	I think the case has completely fallen apart because it doesn't seem as.
	I mean, it killed Susan Wojcicki.
	Like the stress of all this bullshit.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	And honestly, watching this, just listening to this clip, the amount of effort they put into it is like nothing.
	Josh's script was just straight up.
	They're like, should we add like one word that makes it sound like he's a pirate?
	And they're like, no.
	He's like, hey, what up?
	How are you, matey?
	Wait, what was the ad even for?
	That you mentioned?
	Rumble.
	It was for them having their.
	It's pretty bad.
	So, yeah, I will.
	Maybe more of something like that.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, yeah, why not?
	They should have done a, yeah, Pirates R, you know, right?
	Of course they should have.
	As you said, Dennis, I shared some stills with you earlier today, and they're going to be on our social media feeds at Van Crowder on Blue Sky, and of course, X, the Everything app.
	They'll be there as well.
	So take a peek at Gerald wearing mascara.
	One of those screenshots looked like it was from a video game.
	Like it was.
	Yeah, well.
	Yeah, very bad.
	The Strip Mall Studio green screen is not.
	Jeremy Boring.
	Investing in a new JD Vance makeup line.
	It does kind of feel like.
	Spooky eyes.
	I'm willing to bet that they're probably also the kind of folks who will take a picture and upload it to like 11 labs and be like, make this into a video of pirates using AI.
	That's what they're going to do though.
	Maybe in the future.
	They will.
	This one was basically.
	It was actually repeat cut clips.
	I cut about a minute and a half of them just recreating with a green screen.
	You know the sequence where Captain Jack Sparrow comes to dock and his boat kind of sinks as he arrives and he like walks off of the.
	Stern, is that what it is?
	I don't know anything about boats.
	Yeah, crow's nest.
	Yeah, he likes to hops off of that onto the dock.
	Basically, it's that whole sequence, and they just recreated it because they're like, Why not?
	Because someone said censorship in their morning meeting, and they're like, Let's do a full boat parody video.
	Yeah, of course.
	Also, the sip.
	We got to start off with a sip, of course, and a really embarrassing intentional placement.
	This is really fun.
	Hmm.
	Glad to be with you.
	I know you're saying, is that a loader?
	It's not a loaded gun.
	No, it is an empty gun, but pretty happy with this.
	This is a, everyone here knows this has been a project of mine for a little while.
	This is the single most pimped out bling Saturday night special ever.
	It's like a $250 gun, and I was like, I'm just going to chrome it.
	Yeah, no, I have some pearl grips.
	But the pearl grip that was on it yesterday was awesome, and I took it off.
	Okay.
	What?
	Yeah, on Stephen's desk and laying on top of a white microfiber cloth is a new six shooter.
	I saw that.
	Why?
	What do you mean?
	Because it was like only 200 bucks and he could chrome it out really easy, dude.
	Get a laser etch with his face on the side.
	Chrome it out.
	Dennis, this is a show.
	You start the show with the most interesting thing of the day, which is you bought a gun?
	That's true.
	I guess I don't understand.
	To me, I thought long and hard about why this rubbed me the wrong way.
	And then it popped in my head.
	I was like, oh, this is a kid brings new toy to school energy.
	It really is.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	My aunt gave me $100 and you're like, show your friend.
	It's like a $100 bill.
	It's like that kind of thing.
	It really is.
	Like me, pick me, or I'll shoot you with my gun.
	Have you ever seen one of these?
	Obnoxious start.
	I also just don't get gun culture like that.
	Oh, I don't care.
	I think if you want to shoot guns, keep them in a gun safe and go to a gun range.
	It doesn't need to be your identity.
	They're fun like fireworks.
	I think having funny guns is maybe, you know what I mean?
	Like a gun that's way.
	Like when you fire it and the little bang thing comes out, the bang flag.
	But you got to make sure the bang is loaded and not a bullet.
	That's true.
	That's nice.
	It'll get you in trouble.
	That's how big whoops it is.
	I saw the Napa Boys this last.
	Week and uh oh, feature film about yeah, about yeah, about the Napa boys, about the Napa boys.
	The Napa boys are back, of course.
	Uh, Merlo's still out, but uh, Ivy Wolt is in it, sure.
	And uh, she there's a scene where she it's just been running in my head.
	She carries a gun across the field and it's like twice as large as she is.
	It's just like, oh, just a very funny, it's a small lady, very funny, small young, yeah, yeah.
	So, opposite of that though, opposite of funny, lately Stephen's been kicking off his shows by playing uh, footage of minorities committing violence.
	I'm glad that we didn't have to talk about that this week.
	Steven, it seems like he's just trying to justify this they're not like us narrative.
	I think he's explicitly said that a couple times.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, if the president says it.
	He's also continuing to be maximally afraid of being knockout gamed.
	No one's more afraid of knockout game than that guy.
	Yeah.
	Keeping it in the zeitgeist.
	This morning, he decided to attack me personally by targeting an indie folk track that's been on my FYP for the last few weeks.
	Is it just a Hopeless Core song?
	No, that would be fun.
	Yeah.
	Is it Hudson?
	It's not Hudson either.
	I do love that riff.
	Hudson Friedman.
	Ooh, what is it?
	If you know me, remember that?
	You guys had the other guy coming around.
	The traveling troubadour.
	Who's this guy?
	Oh, we got Jesse.
	Jesse Wells.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It doesn't matter.
	Dennis is looking at me like he doesn't know who he's talking about.
	He was on Colbert.
	He was on Rogan.
	I'll look him up.
	Doesn't matter.
	We're not going to talk about it in a second.
	We're going to keep moving forward.
	Yeah, but I want to know the song.
	Well, what song and by who?
	Yeah.
	We'll get into that, but not before we take a second to thank the folks who are supporting us over at Shrug.club.
	Hello, Shrug Nation.
	You have entered the Shrug's commercial.
	That's the home for all things too hot for the RSS feed.
	Of course, double salute.
	Shrug, clug, club, clug.
	What's a clug?
	No, more like glug, glug, glug.
	Can you imagine how much I'm wiggling around right now?
	This fucking, the beats are blaring.
	I'm fucking, I'm flash dancing in this motherfucker right now.
	I can't wait to say thank you.
	Fix it, Josh's belly.
	All for free.
	Always will be.
	But some folks choose to support us, graciously giving us their attention and money.
	I love money and attention.
	Yeah, we appreciate them bigly.
	And new this week.
	I would like to put two hands to my forehead.
	Nice.
	Get them up.
	Double salutes, baby.
	For Willow the T slur with ADHD and a damn hard dick.
	Willow the T slur with ADHD and a damn hard dick.
	Thank you.
	A damn hard dick, you say?
	Willow.
	What was the middle part?
	The T slur with ADHD.
	The T slur with ADHD.
	Damn hard dick.
	How about one of these for you?
	Thank you.
	You piece of shit.
	We're never going to let that go.
	Dennis, you weren't on the Megan Thee Stallion episode.
	No.
	It was a hoot.
	We had a great time.
	Welcome to the Shrug Club.
	Welcome.
	Thank you so much for being here.
	You're the best person.
	I got a stack of mugs right here.
	Here's a stack of mugs, yeah.
	Packed up, ready to head the door.
	Are they labeled?
	They're labeled.
	They're head addressed?
	Not yet.
	Okay.
	I have to confirm all the addresses.
	You want to confirm I'm here?
	We can do it on the show.
	No, we don't need to go through the Chowderhead's addresses, but take a peek in your messages if you're a Patreon Chowderhead.
	Because a mug is going to be headed to your home as soon as we confirm addresses.
	There's also going to be links to the mugs and t shirts in the podcast description.
	I would be curious, I want to know what people want from us.
	Merch ideas.
	I want them to reach out to us on social media.
	Sounds like lighters, like a zippo.
	Sure, we could do zippos.
	At Than Crowder, again, Louder with Crowder, W I, wait.
	Louderwithcrowder.net.
	Louderthancrowder at gmail.com is our email address.
Stacking Mugs for the Mug Club 00:03:11
	Yep.
	Don't want to get that mixed up.
	We also accept interview requests there as well.
	Yeah, some folks have been, uh, What is this?
	Fucking up quite a bit.
	Yeah, a couple fuck ups.
	This is a big one.
	A rather popular conservative conspiracy theorist and YouTuber with well over 600,000 followers.
	I'm currently vetting him to see if he's a great fit for our show.
	Are you?
	Yes.
	So that's fun.
	I'm going to see how many hoops that could jump through.
	Great.
	What are we doing to vet him?
	I'm just asking questions about their metrics, which is really fun.
	I really like that.
	I want to know about their reach, and I know I'm just prodding a bit.
	Yeah, of course.
	If they're worth it.
	For our show or not.
	I mean, so fun.
	If you like what we're doing and want to help us be better and do more, you want to help us financially, and you also want to hear us say your name, you can do that.
	Visit shrug.club, join shrug nation, be a shrug clubber, and also be a piece of shit.
	Or can you fuck off enough?
	That's so good.
	That is fun.
	All right.
	Thank you guys so much for being here.
	Back to my For You page.
	Yeah, I want to know that song, dude.
	Before we get to anything else, when you sing.
	If you're a heterosexual, make sure to sing from your heart like this equally heterosexual man.
	I told my wife I was recently attracted to a man for the first time.
	That wearing overalls, yeah, is it his penis?
	Overalls and trucker.
	We all know that classic uh joke about the farmer's son.
	No, I don't actually.
	You don't know the farmer's son joke?
	You know the farmer's yeah, yeah.
	Um, why did the farmer's son leave the farm?
	I don't know why because he was gay.
	Well, in this case, that classic joke, not gay, bisexual.
	So, this is a song by a guy named Scott Hellman.
	Have you heard about this, uh, Jared?
	No, no, I've not heard this.
	I think it's a great song, it's pretty cool.
	Canadian born singer songwriter.
	From Toronto, Ontario.
	When he was 15 years old, he signed a development deal with Warner Music in Canada.
	In 2014, he released a debut EP, featured a song called Bungalow.
	It was on the top 40 Billboard Canadian charts.
	What's that in American?
	You have about 80 cents to the dollar.
	Okay, cool.
	So it's like a top 60?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, it achieved platinum certification.
	Despite being near the border, I guess I know nothing about Canadian music except for Celine Dion, Nickelback, Sun41, Avril Lavigne.
	Carly Ray Jepsen.
	Carly Ray Jepsen is one of my faves.
	Just had a baby last week.
	Wow, congrats, Carly Ray Jepsen.
	Piece of shit, buddy.
	Excuse me?
	She's a piece of shit.
	Yeah, I'd say she's an honorary.
	What a piece of shit.
	Thank you, Carly.
	But yeah, also multiple Juno Award nominees, a pretty much a very well established presence in Canadian pop music.
	Yeah, but it's not the kind of music Stephen listens to.
	I guess, no.
Canadian Charts and Celine Dion 00:14:52
	In 2024, Scott formed his own independent label called Faux Fum Records.
	That's great.
	Not Fi Fi.
	No, definitely not Fi Fi, dude.
	And then, yeah, Something About Julian was the first release as a fully independent.
	Artist.
	It's the first track from an upcoming 10 song album due out later this year.
	And it found over 2 million plus views on TikTok and Instagram.
	I found it there, as well as Steven Crowder found his ears and eyes.
	On his FYP.
	We're all the same here.
	Same dudes.
	We have the same feed.
	It does seem like a deeply infected feed.
	Just four white guys with the same dark feed.
	Yeah, right.
	Except this, no, I get this nice, cute stuff every once in a while.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I love getting ads for music.
	Because they always land.
	Yeah.
	And they're great.
	I hear so much great music from ads on Instagram.
	I got to tell you, I'm pre-saving so many tracks.
	Yes.
	And it's a great way to drop a single.
	But speaking of dropping singles, I respected that.
	I got a question for y'all.
	Question for the audience.
	Yeah.
	Question for y'all: What's the last concert that Steven went to?
	What do you think he went to?
	Oh, my God.
	Audience question: What's the last concert you guys went to?
	Hit us up in the chat.
	I mean, we have.
	In the chat?
	What chat?
	Well, there could be a call.
	I got my eyes closed right now.
	Like a short code.
	Text concerts to 61617 or something?
	Yeah, he's doing his best.
	Leave him alone.
	He's waiting for us to come.
	You got a chat.
	You know how to hit us up.
	We told you how to do it.
	Hit us up in the chat.
	Remember, I just went to San Holo and St. Mary with my dad.
	Sure.
	Oh, that's right.
	We went to a little rave, watched that guy spin that pizza dough.
	Oh, he was doing that thing for sure.
	He was spinning a cloth in the air, really rubbing me the wrong way as I'm trying to watch this rave music with my dad sitting down.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't remember what my last.
	My last concert was when I went to a local punk rock show and I thought it was a punk rock show, but it was actually a funeral.
	Byron tricked me into it.
	I did trick you into a memorial show.
	Yeah.
	Without context.
	That was the last show that I went to.
	TPUSA.
	Yeah.
	Not that one.
	Yeah, we were at this crazy event.
	It was wild.
	They had cold sparks and stuff.
	I saw.
	I saw.
	I saw Michael Shannon's REM cover band earlier this year.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	You left.
	What was the name of the band?
	I don't remember what they call it.
	I don't know, man.
	Some kind of like Michael Shannon and Jason, some guy from Pavement.
	Drummer from Mountain Goats, too.
	It was star studded.
	It's a bit of a super group.
	Yeah.
	Well, what was Stevens's, though, do you think?
	I remember Jared Holt and I were listening to that playlist.
	It's probably just an Imagine Dragon style band.
	I think he's a big fan of The Fray now with a new singer.
	That sounds like a Stevens's kind of thing.
	You like the I want to fuck my fish.
	The guy from the TP.
	That's what the guy is saying.
	From the alternative.
	That's what a man should sing like a guy singing about fucking his fish.
	Maybe that.
	Let's not be so explicit.
	We're about to talk about a very explicit homoerotic song.
	This song was released on November 5th, 2025, and Scott wrote about the song's meaning here, as well as its viral reception.
	Something about Julian is out now for the honest, the secure, and safe.
	The curious.
	I had no idea I'd slump at a bar one night in Toronto and throw up a snippet of this song on the interweb, go to bed, and wake up to thousands of people saying, LOL, same.
	It's a beautiful world, and mostly because I can tell my wife anything and make art about it.
	I don't know if you are aware of the content of this song.
	Nope.
	I think I may have pulled an extended clip of it.
	What happened?
	Nope, not yet.
	Wild.
	Honestly, yeah, let's hear what Steven has to say about it, and then I'll explain the song.
	What happened to just keeping this private?
	Are you saying he should go back in the closet?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Shove him back in the closet.
	Why?
	Because here's the thing He's married.
	He's like, I'm still straight, but I want a man.
	Guess what?
	Every married man at some point has seen a woman who, on a purely physical level, he's also attracted to.
	You don't get to.
	Oh, but it's who I am.
	We all have carnal base instincts.
	Who cares?
	It doesn't matter.
	Don't bring it up because it's a.
	Obviously, if you claim that you are straight, you can continue to be heterosexually attracted to your wife.
	And even if it's a struggle, why does this need to be uploaded to the world?
	And why the f are you wearing overalls?
	The song Something About Julian is about Scott.
	Confessing to his wife, even though he believes he's mostly a straight guy, he's having sexual attraction to someone that he doesn't really know a musician, the same sex, named Julian.
	And the song's about the intimacy and closeness that you'd have to come out as potentially bisexual to your wife.
	And Stephen has a problem with that and thinks that you shouldn't have that conversation.
	You should squash any feelings.
	You should only sing about once you're married, your wife.
	Because clearly everyone has carnal desires.
	Back of Stephen's shirt just ripped.
	Sounds like.
	Yeah.
	He's doing a little American Steven in Boys Town.
	You're almost there.
	You're almost there.
	Yeah.
	All of this, it's safe to say, is just very triggering to Steven.
	And we're going to explore that a little bit.
	Well, why does he, I mean, why does this need to be uploaded to the world?
	I think it's because, most importantly, it's relatable to some folks who are struggling with something that shouldn't be a shameful thing to talk about.
	It shouldn't be.
	But I mean, Here's the thing.
	When I look to say I'm having problems with my relationship or my marriage, I usually turn to guys who emotionally abuse their wives and then leave them.
	That's a great point.
	That's the best advice because those who can't do teach.
	But I want to clarify this isn't a song about having a bad relationship with his current wife at all.
	Not at all.
	This is just a song admitting to.
	Totally.
	It's a self exploration of a feeling, not even of an action.
	How come he's talking about fucking a guy?
	I think he should talk about more like fuck a fish or something.
	Something.
	Yeah, we got to get more guys talking about fucking fish.
	That makes way more sense.
	I don't know.
	All of this is something that I think a younger Steven may have connected with just a few years ago, specifically November 10th, 2018.
	This is from a Crowder Closes segment, which I don't know if you've ever heard any of these.
	I have, yeah, yeah.
	I think when we started watching Steven, he was doing this still.
	It's basically his version of Jerry Springer's final thoughts.
	It's like, yeah, for real.
	One of the GOATs.
	An outro monologue.
	Now, all we got is this freaking Bill Maher, and now he talks about, oh, I finish in a silk cloth every time.
	Get out of here.
	Does he?
	Wait, did he say that?
	Yeah, he did.
	He would be a freak like that.
	I filtered.
	Oh, wait, that was on Faux Moy.
	Allegedly, that's what he said.
	No.
	Yeah, the topic of this Crowder Close is defeating fear.
	Oh, sick, dude.
	Where he opens up about what he fears the most.
	I try to be vulnerable, I try to be earnest.
	Because I don't think lies help.
	I don't think being completely disingenuous helps.
	I don't think false ego helps.
	And because I know a lot of you out there might be experiencing some of the same pain and fears that I've gone through or that I'm going through or people even hear sometimes in the studio.
	So if it helps you, it'd be wrong for me to keep it to myself.
	Huh?
	It seems like he's kind of abandoned all of that.
	No more vulnerability.
	Verner.
	Nope.
	Exclusively leaning into his ego.
	I noticed that his.
	His voice sounded so much more sincere in that one.
	Yeah, I gotta admit, there were some Crowder closes where I was like, hey, man, I get that.
	Like, I kind of related to some of the things he said back in the day.
	You know, there was like a more moderated version of himself.
	There definitely was, yeah.
	But he continues here after discussing some of his fears about being.
	One of the early fears he talks about was being alone.
	Okay.
	Finding himself alone.
	Well, that one came to mind.
	He discusses a little bit about stage fright, saying that he throws up before all of his major events, throw up during.
	Yeah, I can.
	Yeah, you're really a person.
	Be a real man.
	It's way funnier.
	Time it out.
	Get the mouth sweating.
	Get Steve O to fucking barf up a fish or something and balance a ladder on his head.
	Put hot sauce on it and lap it up, dude.
	Fuck it.
	Steven should barf and put hot sauce in his eyeball.
	Yeah, why not?
	And then staple his nuts to his leg.
	No more feeling in any part of my body.
	What was another one?
	He had a fear of all of this the weight of the show and the careers of the people in his.
	His crew on his show.
	He doesn't give a fuck about the careers of it.
	He cares about letting down Gerald Morgan.
	Well, that's his backup plan, I think.
	I'm afraid of.
	I'm afraid, frankly, I used to have a bad temper.
	I'm afraid of it coming back.
	I'm afraid of Mr. Hyde rearing his ugly bisexual head.
	That was a short phase.
	No, I'm afraid.
	Afraid of getting angry.
	Afraid of being too emotional.
	Afraid of being obsessive.
	Because of that, I'm afraid of alienating friends, family, people who I care about most.
	Something I think about a lot.
	Mr. Hyde.
	Yeah, dude.
	Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.
	I've never heard him flat out say that he had a bisexual feeling in the past.
	Yes, this might be the only time he's publicly discussed this, but it's not the only time that people have pointed this out.
	This has been a long standing rumor.
	And I want to point out the only reason we care at all about Stephen's sexuality is because of the hypocrisy there.
	Totally.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	Love who you love.
	But if you're going to shit on people for loving who they love, then you're a piece of shit.
	And he might do that here.
	Really?
	Well, no.
	I did want to take a second to listen to some parts of something about Julian where they aren't making, I don't know, fart noises or shit.
	Sure, sure.
	Yeah, making blowjob noises.
	Yeah, I think that it might be worth listening to.
	Literally just giving each other blowjobs.
	Well, yeah.
	How are you going to get the Foley right?
	I need to suck Tim's dick.
	Well, Noodles, I don't know if you're aware, Noodles, now we know his real name and that he has a huge dick, remember?
	I remember the dick.
	I don't remember his name, though.
	Yeah, that's lore now.
	But it's really thin, and that's why they call him Noodle.
	Well, now they're still talking about it.
	Earlier this week, they commented that it's so long that it's like he's wrapped in a heat coil.
	So they're still talking about it.
	So they've seen it.
	They were like, You got a glass coffin with us.
	And by that, I mean, pull down the shorts.
	We got an in house doctor who's going to check you out.
	And his name's Stephen Dr. Crowder.
	It's Dr. Hyde.
	Dr. Hyde.
	That's the name of the episode.
	It's certainly Dr. Hyde.
	Of course.
	All right.
	All right.
	So the earnest.
	Song, the very sweet and thoughtful song that we're about to listen to.
	I don't want to live a lie, I don't want to die alone.
	I don't want to be a crime, I don't want to be a joke.
	But I've been living in the dark, now I see a little glow.
	Yeah, you're the apple on the vine, you're the meat on the bone.
	Am I every reason why you're the end of the road?
	And I don't want to make you cry, but I gotta let you go.
	You're the baseline.
	I ain't going nowhere, but someone out of nowhere kind of makes me want to go there.
	I don't know what it is.
	I've never even been in the same room as him, but there's something about Julian.
	So it's a nice song about a guy coming clean to his wife who he loves very much.
	Is the song about his wife at all?
	Is it about his wife?
	Does he mention his wife at all?
	Or is it more just about.
	He's explicitly talking to her.
	Okay, interesting.
	You're the apple of my eye on the vine, you're me on my bone.
	You're my every reason why.
	You're the end of my world.
	I got you.
	I got you.
	Yeah, saying basically, like, I love you and I'm going to be with you forever.
	But I'm feeling something and I want to tell you about it.
	Yeah, there's nothing wrong with communicating those feelings.
	I think it would be worse if you didn't.
	Yeah, and like all things considered, his wife was like, I don't like that you feel that way.
	That's obviously a conversation.
	But for Stephen to jump in and judge and say, hey, don't do that if you got a wife.
	You don't have a wife, Stephen.
	I just think it's just such a silly thing.
	Like, great point.
	I'm not a bisexual guy, so I don't have the tools to relate to this direct.
	But I do know that ignoring outside information.
	Influence like that's like saying to your partner, I don't find anyone else at all attractive but you.
	Do you think that uh Megan Fox is hot?
	No, no, of course, you're hot.
	It's just it's just it's dumber to deny that and deny who you are and what you see with your eyes and how you feel, totally.
	Yeah, recognizing that you have a sexual attraction to another man is just not another person, yeah, it just doesn't fucking matter.
	Yeah, it matters, it probably matters to Stephen because it's a man, well, and it matters because he's.
	I heard this really gay song.
	Noodles, can you show me your dick again?
	All right.
	I can see you.
	And we just like, we're at this point where I was like, yeah, yeah, that's okay.
	No, it's not okay.
	It's not okay.
	It's just as legitimate.
	It is not just as legitimate.
	No.
	Okay?
	Just to be clear.
	Homosexuality is not as legitimate for a society as heterosexuality.
	Kwanzaa is not as legitimate as Christmas.
	Gender equality is not the same as traditional gender norms.
	Transgender is not as legitimate as normal.
	Okay?
	I'm not going to do the cyst thing.
	That's where I'm going.
	More like, do the cyst thing.
	You know what I mean?
	Not really.
	I don't.
	I don't know.
	He probably had like a cyst or something that he was sick for the episode one time.
	Had a.
	Well, welcome back, Mug Club.
	I'm not feeling so well.
	I had a big cyst removed off my neck.
	Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
	He is sick every weekend.
	It would be boring if he was sick the same way I was.
	I guess maybe I'm just kind of missing that he wasn't sick this week.
	Yeah, maybe he is.
	He's sick of this fucking gay song.
	That's for sure.
	I'm sick of my FYP only showing me gay content.
Neck Cysts and Gay Songs 00:03:57
	Why does it keep happening?
	Got you locked down.
	Zuckerberg got you pegged.
	Which is something you might be searching for.
	Whoa.
	Yes.
	I mean, the longer you keep your finger on that video, you know, the gayer it gets.
	Don't linger.
	Don't linger.
	Well, I just think that, I mean, we've known this all along, but Stephen explicitly saying that homosexuality is not a legit societal thing to exist, I suppose.
	Yeah.
	All right, man.
	Gender equality is not the same as, or is not as legitimate as gender norms.
	Yeah, which is interesting because that explicitly says that they are not equal.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, like, I feel like they've been arguing this separate but equal regarding traditional gender dynamics.
	But then he, I mean, the mask slips, right?
	Like, whoops.
	Whoops.
	Women are worse and worth less than men.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly what he says.
	Every time Stephen has a gay thought, he has to demean a woman.
	Well, yeah.
	He struggles with feelings of insecurity and power.
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's what he should have been.
	I can't believe he even focused on this song.
	It's a nice song.
	This has the energy of Ben Shapiro reading WAP.
	Kind of.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't know.
	WAP.
	Was a little bit more legitimate of a critique than this, though, right?
	Yeah, you're just saying the song is vulgar.
	It's yucky.
	Yeah, and it falls victim to, again, their perspective that any mention of attraction and sexuality has to do with sex itself.
	How do you think he feels about the song Lips of an Angel by Hinder?
	Probably gets fucking rocked, dude.
	Yeah.
	It's the same song with saying, Fuck my wife.
	I'm all about this chick.
	Interesting.
	Well, Buck, I haven't seen him like that.
	Crazy bitch.
	Remember that one?
	Oh, yeah.
	He likes that one, too.
	Probably.
	He probably rocks out to that.
	Rocking and rolling, dude.
	Boys, we're going to Burger King, and then we're going to drink three beers.
	Hell yeah.
	All right.
	There are so many comments from women who are most at risk of behavior like this one.
	At risk.
	It's still Romeo and Tech.
	It's not.
	It's just so, it's just so.
	Pure, he's cheating on you.
	Yes, he is cheating on you with a guy's butt.
	Okay, yeah, you wish, but again, I just want to say, and that was the most fucking rageous thing to say.
	Hit him with the last one.
	Sorry, no, just like I don't know.
	I just think that again, with a guy's butt, yeah.
	Why don't you say butthole, Gerald?
	I don't know.
	Why don't you say that?
	Why don't you say dick in a butthole?
	That's what you're thinking about, right?
	There's no cheating going on.
	No.
	There's no cheating going on.
	Can we hear him say that one more time?
	Yeah, that one.
	No, it's just him saying guy's butt.
	Oh, guy's butt, of course.
	Yeah.
	With a guy's butt.
	Does that one need to be on the board?
	Yeah, we don't have it on the board.
	It's a guy's butt.
	Yeah.
	What a weird thing to say.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's not out of the norm for them, though, to mistake sexuality with sex again.
	Right?
	Like, yeah, well, you can say, like, yeah, like the example of you can say somebody's attractive.
	You can discuss, you know, oh, that person is a hunk.
	That person is a babe.
	Yeah.
	You can say those things and not be like.
	So you were thinking about fucking her vagina then?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to fuck that guy's butt.
	No.
	No.
	What?
	But also, it just doesn't matter.
	You're not the songwriter.
	You're not the guy's wife.
	Listen to these hot lyrics here.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think he's in a band, but I don't really know.
	And I want to hold his hand.
	Yeah, I want to dip a toe and listen to him talk all night on the phone.
	It's just a little feeling.
	I'm going to let it go.
	I'm still on a straight line still.
	So, your waistline, and when my heart beats, you're the baseline.
	He's talking about his girlfriend after wife, pardon me.
	Pretty PG, not even 13, discussion about.
	What about the third verse?
	I want your fist inside me.
Primary Elections and Hot Lyrics 00:11:12
	Oh, jeez, jeez.
	Turn it up real quick.
	It's just bullshit.
	This is just offensive.
	Pardon me.
	This song's offensive, right?
	No.
	Oh, wait, what?
	This conversation is.
	And I think it's a nice song.
	Yeah, it's a nice song.
	It's a fine song.
	It's a great song.
	It's a well made song.
	It's better than Steven's ever done musically.
	That's for sure.
	I don't know.
	Have you heard his Best of You Foo Fighters parody?
	I've heard the Kamala Harris We're Going Down.
	Best of You parody.
	It's called It Stinks Like Poo.
	Probably something like that.
	I know that Trump does the third verse by himself.
	It's pretty cool.
	This is just, hey, we have a chance to poke fun at gay stuff.
	Let's do it.
	Yep.
	So they weren't targeting minorities immediately, but they were attacking a bisexual guy.
	What are you going to do, dude?
	I mean,.
	Are you going to think about a guy loving another guy?
	No.
	Make fun of it.
	That's what I do.
	Are you guys music or lyrics people first?
	What do you hear first?
	Music.
	Music.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Oh, you?
	Okay.
	Well, everyone is, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Now, I like that.
	That's why I can sing songs.
	I think an energy of meth songs.
	What?
	Like a Third Eye Blind meth song.
	Oh, yeah.
	That fell asleep inside you.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Does anybody say that in one of those songs?
	Uh huh.
	Guess I would say, I would wrap this up by saying, Scott, you're always welcome to the show.
	Anytime.
	Yeah, of course.
	And Stephen, be married if you want to give marriage advice.
	Great.
	Hey, do you guys remember Kat Shibugamu?
	No.
	Yeah, was that a jazz singer from the 40s?
	Something like that.
	It's also in northern Quebec, I believe, Shibugamu.
	Sounds like a guy who won a trophy for fishing.
	Yes.
	Kat Abagazantite.
	So.
	Kat Abagazala is the name.
	It's not really that hard.
	Not difficult, yeah.
	But it is disrespectful, and that's kind of fun, right?
	Yeah, if you make fun of her name, then you make fun of her.
	Oogabooga?
	Oogabooga Juga.
	Okay.
	Let's see what the boys have to say about Kat.
	Surprise, she lost her congressional primary.
	Now, again, close to, if not equally bad, Democrat.
	I just want you to remember that when you have those on the right saying it's all the same and stay home at midterms and there's no difference between the parties, this is who you will have elected.
	Hey, everyone.
	I don't know if you heard, but we didn't win.
	And it really sucks.
	We came really close, and it sucks.
	But something that no one in power even expected would be possible.
	At all.
	You cannot kidnap and kill us and our neighbors.
	You cannot start illegal wars.
	Want to bet?
	You lost, so people don't want to hear what you have to say.
	As a means for profit.
	We will continue to come back, and every single loss like this one just makes the path easier for the next person who takes the same chance.
	When I said I would spend every single waking moment of the rest of my life to hold this administration accountable, win or lose, I meant it.
	You just couldn't do it.
	Now you can do it from Starbucks.
	No, it doesn't suck.
	You suck.
	That's why you lost.
	Well, aren't we all winners?
	No, there's one winner, and it's not you.
	And Kat Shabugamu burned through 3 million of other people's dollars to lose.
	That's funny.
	What the fuck?
	Like, okay.
	There's a lot in that that is like really obnoxious.
	So, Jared, what do you.
	He's talking about like the runner up.
	No one gives a shit what you had to say.
	Well, how about a guy you like a lot, you dumb fuck?
	Clay Aiken?
	Wait a second.
	You're talking about.
	I'm talking about a loser who won.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm talking about Chris Daughtry, baby.
	All right.
	How about Catherine McPhee?
	I know he knows.
	Okay.
	This is the big one for this loser.
	Adam Lambert.
	Come on, dude.
	Come on, dude.
	Okay.
	Jennifer Hudson.
	Shut up.
	All right.
	Cat Abu Ghazali.
	I do want to run through this a little bit.
	Born March 24th, 1999.
	One of the best years of all time.
	Definitely one of the best.
	Top tier music coming out in 1999.
	Some of the best albums of all time.
	Len.
	I'm Steal My Sun Shit.
	Burger Pants.
	And also, I don't know what year that was, but it was around then.
	It was pretty close.
	Either way, In Dallas, Texas, to a Palestinian American father and an American mother.
	She's 26 years old, which makes me feel pretty old.
	Knowing the people who were born in 99 are running for office, fuck.
	I'll tell you, it's not great.
	Her parental grandfather was from Jerusalem, and her family had to flee to Kuwait during the Nakba.
	On her other side of the family, though, her maternal grandmother was a prominent Texas Republican for four decades, including serving as the president of the Texas Federation of Republican Women in 2005.
	And 2005.
	That was a big year for Republicans.
	Good year for music as well.
	Interesting.
	Was it?
	I'm actually not sure.
	Nah, I mean, Good Charlotte was popping off then.
	They were a little bit before.
	2001 was the first album.
	Yeah, that was when there was that weird second generation of shit.
	We're talking about Hot Topic style emo.
	Well, no, second wave emo kind of rolling into its death.
	First wave screamo.
	Okay, listen.
	I mean, you know, what's the.
	When they come for me, I'll be sitting at my desk with a gun in my hand, wearing a bow.
	You know what I mean?
	What is that song?
	Yeah, what was that?
	It's Keysby Nights by our favorite ska band, Catch 22.
	The Sky episode.
	Of course.
	It is the Sky episode.
	Yes.
	But I do think that Kat, currently, her political stances feel maybe potentially like a betrayal to Stephen, this Dallas connection, the former Republican thing.
	Sure.
	But yet, growing up, Kat thought that she would be the first female Republican president.
	She described this now as, quote, so embarrassing.
	Saying that she started realizing that, quote, maybe Ronald Reagan wasn't right about everything.
	And Stephen, again, red in the face over this trickle down on me.
	What?
	That's great.
	A golden trickle down.
	Damn it, we're stacking episode titles today.
	Before running for office, she spent her career taking on right wing extremism as a journalist and researcher with Media Matters for America, Mother Jones, and Zateo News, which I don't know anything about.
	Yeah, I don't either, but I mean, they're probably left wing hacks.
	Of course.
	She's over there doing the Lord's work, writing about folks like Stephen Miller, Elon Musk, Prince.
	Tom Holman.
	Jester.
	All right.
	Jester Holman.
	No fucking big Zetail.
	She moved to Chicago in July of 2024 when her partner, Ben Collins, became CEO of Global Tetrahedron, which is the company that owns.
	Is that a rap group?
	No, no.
	He's the CEO of the rap group.
	I mean, I like that.
	That company owns The Onion.
	Hell yeah.
	Love The Onion.
	This dude fucking rocks.
	I don't know if you've heard him talk.
	He's been on a couple podcasts.
	He's responsible for the whole purchasing InfoWars thing.
	One of the best satirists working these days.
	He's doing great stuff.
	Kind of a little dream team over there.
	She announced her candidacy on March 24th, 2024.
	Which was her 26th birthday, and she celebrated by rejecting corporate donations and the influence of the ultra wealthy throughout her campaign.
	Yeah, kept it rolling, relying instead on grassroots donors and free public events.
	She led all candidates in fundraising and was pulling second to Evanston Mayor Daniel Biss going into the primary.
	What a terrible ass name.
	More like Daniel Piss, right?
	Yeah, right, Jesus.
	Talk about golden trickle down.
	So, this is really wild, though.
	A 26 year old first time candidate with no local political history, as she just moved to the area, out fundraising and established mayor and former state legislator in a 16 person field.
	Very crowded.
	Very crowded.
	She did better than Valentina.
	Yeah, she did end up.
	Yeah.
	She turned her.
	Campaign office into a mutual aid hub providing toiletries, which I love, hygiene products, diapers, food, and books.
	One thing that stood out to me, they had their own screen printing station set up and they invited folks to come by whenever they wanted to print their own merchandise for her campaign.
	Oh, like bring in a blank and print it?
	Yeah, bring a blank, turn your shirt inside out.
	We'll make a, yeah.
	That's awesome.
	It's just fucking really, really cool screen print on yourself.
	Why not do it square on the chest, right?
	Yeah.
	On the back, like a jersey.
	We got a heat.
	We do have to burn you to cure the ink.
	It's fine.
	But then, of course, this is where she made.
	I think most people would have recognized her from this, which is not great.
	She was physically knocked to the ground by federal agents at a protest outside the Broadview Ice facility.
	I do remember super fucked up.
	She got like picked up and thrown to the ground.
	Yeah.
	Entirely outraged, but also caught a charge.
	Conspiracy to impede and injure federal officers, which was absolute horseshit.
	Yeah.
	A lot of interviews surrounding that event, but did a great job of highlighting the injustice.
	This is happening in Chicago.
	You know, it's a heavy place.
	I know we've got friends, you know, on a daily basis kind of struggling with a community under attack.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this should obviously make some magic to talk about all day long, but things are like this.
	Like when I see stuff like this, it reminds me of like the pictures you see of Bernie getting arrested back in the 60s and stuff.
	Like it goes to show that someone's willing to fight for the right thing, even though they're obviously going to be at risk personally.
	Of course.
	And so if this is just the beginning of a political career, that's great.
	It is just the beginning.
	Daniel Piss, I mean, Daniel Biss, did win on March 17th.
	Won the primary.
	And yeah, as of yesterday, March 18th, with 93% of the vote counted, Abu Ghazaleh received 26.1% to Biss's 29.4%.
	Again, in a 16 person field.
	This is the primary.
	Yeah, I mean, she came in second in a race that was, by any traditional metric, not hers to be competitive in.
	Totally.
	So it's a massive thing.
	I would not consider this loss a loss.
	Yeah, it's huge.
	And of course, with anything like this with a primary, you have to understand that.
	This will impact what happens in November.
	Sure.
	No small block, man.
	Yeah, and if he loses, then you'll always have a conversation of, like, just like when Bernie lost in 2016 and didn't become president, I love that question of, like, could she have beaten so and so?
	We got to do ranked choice voting.
	We have plenty of things I'd love to do.
	This is just a near miss in an extremely crowded race where the winner, again, was an incumbent mayor with 27 years of institutional backing.
	Also, backing of the Congressional Progressive Partnership, which is an APAC shell organization.
	Cool.
Massive Things Impacting November 00:08:52
	It is funny that Stephen points out that Abu Ghazali had.
	Three million dollars of funding behind her.
	Which was a lot.
	But then they don't ever mention the money coming from AIPAC for the campaign.
	Yeah, yeah.
	$3 million of grassroots money is a fucking huge achievement.
	Yeah.
	AIPAC, on the other hand, largely disguised its millions of dollars that would have spent across four Illinois House races.
	They funneled money through PACs with deliberately bland names like Elect Chicago Women and Chicago Progressive Partnership.
	The CPP targeted pro Palestinian progressives by attacking their left wing credentials, essentially accusing them of being closet Republicans.
	And in one case, boosted a left wing splinter candidate to split the progressive vote.
	So they're intentionally trying to carve away additional support for Abu Ghazali.
	Sure.
	And also, a secretive group was caught approaching influencers, offering to pay them, I believe it was multiple thousands of dollars, to post content questioning Abu Ghazali's credibility in the days coming up to the election.
	Great.
	That's awesome.
	Really normal stuff.
	Also, she's openly bisexual.
	Whoa.
	So he's mad at her.
	Too.
	Steven must be really pissed.
	Two bisexual things in the same episode.
	They're stacking the bill.
	Damn, this was our music episode, but it's his bisexual episode.
	Well, how's the lighting in there?
	Is there more purple?
	Did it kind of look like when Kid Rock was in the pool in the exercise video?
	Speaking of music episodes.
	Doing push ups in the back?
	Yeah.
	Steven dips under his desk and Mr. Hyde pops his head out.
	Steven dips under the water, but Mr. Hyde's head pops back out.
	If anyone wants to draw Mr. Hyde or make a fun little.
	Yeah.
	That would be kind of cool thing to share.
	Dr. Hyde.
	Dr. Hyde.
	Yeah.
	Dr. Hyde is in.
	We always forget to mention the Reddit.
	Reddit.com slash.
	What is it?
	Reddit.com slash R slash louder underscore than underscore Crowder.
	Oh, it's all one.
	Okay.
	So the underscores for this one.
	That's what I meant the chat.
	Oh, oh.
	If you want to talk about.
	That's what you meant, dude.
	He has a private chat.
	He has an ICQ chat.
	Best concert, last concert.
	What do you think Steven's concert was?
	Do you hear the lyrics or the music first?
	You know?
	That's the nice thing outside of Crowder being an asshole to.
	A group that he might be a part of.
	Reddit.com slash r slash louder than Crowder.
	Yep.
	I'll say that I typed recently, I forgot the T in Reddit, and that is a website that just says, You forgot the T.
	Oh, that's bad.
	Got your ass.
	I feel like maybe there's one more clip talking about Kat.
	In honor of our lost, potential, worthy adversary, Kat Abugazashugamu, it's time to close.
	My name is Kat Abugazale.
	I'm running for Congress.
	Thank you.
	That is my name.
	I don't know if you heard, but we had the win.
	Time to close.
	Wow.
	Endings and beginnings are ending and beginning now.
	So I cut this short.
	Are you familiar with Time to Close?
	Have we done one of these on the show in the previous?
	It's been a while.
	It has been a while.
	I don't remember hearing this, no.
	Yeah, Time to Close is typically when someone, usually during maybe Republican primaries, they'll do like a Jeb Bush Time to Close or any time a significant figure dies.
	I think they did a Ruth Bader Ginsburg time to close as well, where they just share quotes they think are funny or embarrassing about candidates or I guess celebrities sometimes.
	Should we do one with Steven just having him saying that wouldn't work either over and over again?
	That wouldn't work either.
	It's just the deposition video.
	That wouldn't work.
	I don't know how to make that work actually.
	Oh, I'm fine with that.
	Where is my that wouldn't work either?
	I think I took it off the board.
	It's kind of a raw clip.
	They didn't really have much on Kat, though.
	They just kind of continued to say the name.
	The first one is her saying her name.
	Yeah, I mean, and they don't know how to pronounce it.
	And then it jumps to her saying, Well, we didn't win, which is a normal, normal, fine thing to say when you don't win a Friday.
	What would they have wanted?
	I think, I don't want to hear what you have to say.
	You lost, is what Gerald says.
	So probably nothing at all.
	No speech.
	Yeah.
	And then they wrap up that time to close by saying, OnlyFans.
	I hope she starts doing a stand up tour.
	Yes.
	It'd be wonderful.
	It'd be a one woman show.
	She'll come out of her Urban Outfitters turtleneck.
	I am born.
	She'll do a 30 city tour and then complain about how she's not getting enough work.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, comics.
	Patriarchy.
	For her clothes to just get thrown on the floor every time again by the cop?
	Absolutely.
	And by the way, of course, you know, I've just done tongue in cheek.
	I don't support OnlyFans.
	I think it's horrible.
	I don't want to turn our country into a generation of whores.
	Hmm.
	Remember when Josh was like, I can't get poked in Austin's Cool Kids Club?
	Yeah, and now he's.
	This is like some real incel kind of behavior.
	I can't get poked in Austin's Cat.
	This cat, Abu Zaka, who doesn't do stand up comedy, took my spot in Austin.
	Boo hoo is what I would say to Josh.
	I used to say that I would expect better from him.
	I think I'm just done.
	I think I'm done with him.
	Episode 86, the episode we have officially turned on Josh.
	Yeah, he's too far gone.
	Yeah.
	Unless he has an MTG meltdown, which obviously I don't care about her, but.
	What's that?
	That was me.
	I was done with them a long ass time ago.
	Fuck that, Nerd.
	I thought it was like a scary Josh from the Rafters character, like a Phantom of the Oxford.
	Yeah, no, it was me watching you guys say this, and I was like from afar being like, Welcome to the dark side, brothers.
	Okay.
	We're on the same team now.
	Yeah.
	Jared, you have been calling him basically cosplay Hitler for a while.
	Yeah, he dressed up as Hitler as like, you know, for probably less money than he makes.
	Doing stand up.
	I guarantee he's making $55.
	He just did stand up more often.
	He could get a guarantee eventually.
	Instead, he just works at Steven's house and he dresses up like Hitler.
	How much do you think Josh truly does make from a single stand up show?
	Oh, from a stand up show?
	Yeah, like $800.
	Yeah.
	Remember, I was looking into booking him.
	Remember?
	I was in, I would have a conversation with Josh in the early days.
	Did you really?
	Yeah.
	He's on a website where you can book him for your party.
	Should we book him for an event here?
	And then have nobody there.
	It's just us.
	I thought about it.
	It wasn't that much.
	If you two and then you put me on Zoom.
	Gig Salad here?
	Is that what you're looking for?
	Yeah, you can hire him on gigsalad.com.
	Oh my God.
	Let's see.
	Get a free quick quote.
	What kind of event am I planning?
	An adult birthday?
	A child's birthday party.
	It's a corporate event, dude.
	If it's for us, it's a corporate event.
	Age range is definitely 25 to 44.
	You think so?
	I was going to say 25 to 44.
	There will be young women here, dude.
	Oh, okay.
	So, what equipment will we need?
	You have to tell him that.
	Fog machine.
	No, we will need him to bring a fog machine.
	If he's asking for us to tell him that if there's going to be young women there, then should we check out other things too?
	There better be women.
	How many guests are going to be there?
	Ten?
	Probably.
	And then, yeah, basically, you can just book him.
	Who else is on Gig Salad?
	What is Gig Salad?
	Let's not.
	We've got other things to talk about.
	We have a new sponsor from Gig Salad right here, dude.
	What's that?
	We get Nick to Paula.
	Could we get Nick as well?
	We can get a package deal.
	Get them both.
	Probably get them.
	We're going to be at the Rose Garden, Memorial Rose Garden.
	Nice tomorrow.
	We're booking for tomorrow.
	I would really rather.
	We need you here tomorrow, dude.
	I would really rather not.
	Time 6 p.m. works for me.
	Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We need about an hour from Josh.
	Yeah, actually, you could do 12 hours.
	I want five additional quotes from other professionals.
	I'm ready to book someone ASAP.
	Of course, we are.
	And then you can just do your range.
	So, I mean, we could see between 500 and 800 bucks.
	James Taylor is my name.
	Of course, it is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Phone number is.
	Oh, wait.
	Say my phone number on the air.
	You've done it, dude.
	You've done it.
	Have I?
	No.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We'll do this another time.
	We'll book Josh another time.
	I'm going to book him, dude.
	That's hilarious.
	Yeah, so you can do that.
	I'm going to book him for a child's birthday party.
	I think he would love to come.
	He would love it.
	Talk to your children.
	And then I wouldn't tell him when he's coming, though.
	I would just be like, he would show up there and be like, hey, what's up?
	I'm Josh.
	And I'd be like, I'm sorry, who?
	I know.
	You say, I know.
	I would just act like he's a stranger.
	Oh, and he's like texting.
	Texting you and your phone is beeping at the same time.
	No, man, I don't know who you are.
	No, I'm pretty sure it's your phone in your pocket.
Kent State Gun Girl Situation 00:02:45
	No, dude.
	Why the fuck are you here?
	Don't touch me.
	We try and like to catch a predator style him.
	We could definitely.
	We have like screenshots and stuff.
	Why did you show up to this kid's birthday party?
	We gaslight him.
	That'd be kind of fun.
	Gaslight Josh Fires.
	Maybe this next month, all of our Patreon money goes to gaslighting Josh.
	Yeah, if you guys get us enough money, we will hire him for a child's birthday party and act like he was not supposed to be there.
	Oh, this is complicated, though, because we don't want to give him money.
	But if we do charge back, then it's.
	We had charge back.
	He's a.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Back to the show, though.
	Okay.
	Back to the show.
	Let's go.
	All right.
	Hey, this young lady has been around for a long time and done some pretty good work.
	And this will transition into the guest who we have on the show.
	We got another lady, guys.
	Oh.
	It's Ladies Night as well.
	It is.
	Ladies Night.
	Bye night.
	Who's, I guess, embroiled in a lawsuit with a former Al Qaeda lawyer.
	Caitlin Bennett.
	Caitlin Bennett.
	Doo Doo Bennett.
	I have to know who she is.
	I know who she is, but I don't know who she is.
	Kent State gun girl, mostly known for taking a big dumper in her pants at a party, passing out in a big party.
	Oh, yes.
	When I was getting a facial in Japan, I talked to my facial artist about this.
	About Caitlin Bennett, the gun girl?
	That took a dump at a party girl, right?
	Yeah, yeah, that's her.
	Deficate in her pants.
	Technically, you're right.
	She was wearing like a skirt dress situation.
	No, when I was getting a facial, we literally talked about this.
	I'm not lying.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's kind of interesting.
	Yeah.
	So she's going to be on the show?
	No, Caitlin is not going to be on the show.
	She's caught up in a legal battle with an al Qaeda attorney.
	No, that's someone else.
	This is.
	What is Stephen talking about?
	This is pretty.
	It was a poorly structured sentence, and I did come in on it on a weird note.
	It'll explain it.
	It was my bad.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm taking credit for it.
	Okay.
	The al Qaeda lawyer, we will talk about it, but it has nothing to do with Caitlin.
	Caitlin, of course, as you said, Kent State gun girl.
	Jared, can you.
	All of your crust, explain Caitlin Bennett's gun girl situation.
	Like, what was her deal?
	So, as history heads remember, Kent State was home to the classic government shooting the students.
	So, she graduated herself from Kent State probably in like 2012 or 2013, somewhere in there.
	But in her graduation photos that she took at the fountain at the university, Brought her AR 15 or some other large machine gun to campus.
	It has a scope.
	It's an AR 10, dude.
	Learn your guns.
MAGA Republicans and Everyday Lives 00:07:28
	Maybe I should.
	Uh, and so, written on her cap was, uh, come and take it with an image of a gun.
	She's one of the early agitators from uh, YouTube, and like she, you know, she put her paywall up and stuff because I think she was getting so many like death threats that she was like, I still want to make content, but I don't want like liberals to see this because they're mean to me.
	Because, of course, uh, she has, uh, you know, despite her trigger discipline, constantly telling people that she has a gun and she will use it on them if they.
	Challenge her in any sort of like verbal confrontation that she provokes them in.
	She's like Michael Scott at improv class.
	Kind of always.
	A little bit.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	I'm packing, you know.
	And she's got, you know, she's got her man behind her and her bodyguard with them and your standard controversial dipshit, but early edition, you know.
	Well, she's back at it though, Jared.
	She is.
	Spring break in full swing.
	Caitlin has been becoming a woman on the street.
	Religious arc didn't go so well, I guess.
	She's back talking to folks in this exploration.
	She's asking the question Who would you choose, radical Islamists or MAGA Republicans?
	So she went to a St. Paddy's Day event in Tampa and she asked attendees.
	And I know there's like a lot of jaywalking stuff out there where people now, this social influencers, they'll just stage stuff.
	She actually makes some really good points and you can go watch her whole video.
	I believe it's on YouTube, Rumble, or X.
	I think it's like 30 minutes long.
	But she asked people, and this is the state of the United States and current Democratic Party.
	Radical Islam or MAGA, Trump supporters?
	Who do you feel more comfortable around?
	The answers are unsurprising but sad.
	Who do you have more in common with, a Trump supporter or a radical Islamist?
	Radical Islamist.
	What is a bigger threat to America today?
	Trump supporters in MAGA or radical Islam?
	Trump supporters in MAGA.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You would support the radical Islamists.
	Yeah, and basically, I mean.
	So that goes on for a while.
	Is that me?
	I mean, we did cut the part out where they were talking to you just a few minutes ago when you had.
	Wrestling with Liam Lassum!
	What?
	What is that?
	Mega, more like, Mega bite of this pizza, bitch!
	Did you shake your pants?
	Yeah, it was just a good shakedown that's going on at the same time.
	They're doing St. White karaoke over there.
	I mean, it's real club, baby!
	Yeah, right.
	So, I mean, I don't know.
	I think a lot of people are responding to the fact that maybe it's MAGA Republicans that are affecting, you know, their everyday lives, right?
	Like, yeah.
	Stephen does go on to maybe point out some attacks that Islam has made on not just exclusive Americans.
	They talk about that shooting in New Zealand or Australia.
	And there are some horrific things going on, but there's some horrific things happening here as well.
	Catch the wave.
	It's radical Islam.
	Yeah.
	Domestically outside of the United States, we're all people.
	Radical Islam is not as big of a threat as Trump supporters.
	Yet in December of 2025, 15 were murdered on a beach in Australia.
	Remember that one?
	Then in March 2026, you had an attack on Jewish sites in Belgium, Netherlands.
	Then in March, you had 23 killed, suicide bombings in Nigeria.
	Trump supporters, to be fair, toured the Capitol and lynched a famous gay black actor while yelling, This is MAGA country!
	Oh, wait a second.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	But you know, it's like, I don't know.
	They both have their pros and cons.
	Well, there's other things that Mac Republicans did as well.
	Yes.
	Like, I mean, we could talk about Roe v. Wade.
	We could talk about transgender rights, rolling back all of that.
	Making millions of Americans pay tons of fucking money for health insurance.
	Yeah.
	Also, the billions and hundreds of billions of dollars going towards another regime change war that doesn't seem to have an end in sight.
	The 170 some kids killed in Iran.
	Yeah.
	I just think that this is a Hitler Stalin kind of thing, right?
	Totally.
	I'm not saying that I'm defending radical Islam.
	I am, however, going to.
	Point out that the attempt to make the Muslim faith does sound kind of cool.
	No, like the Islamophobia has been thrust upon the country.
	You're asking like drunk people who don't know what liberal fucking arts degrees are.
	Yeah, it's disingenuous.
	You go to college, that's where liberals go, and you get a liberal arts degree so you can, what, paint pictures?
	Like do finger painting?
	Like vote for Kamala?
	Well, how about.
	Gay?
	Yeah, gay?
	How about you go to.
	How you asked me about radical Islam on the street, and I'm like, versus what?
	MAGA?
	Dude, I'm mad about my gas prices.
	Radical Islam sounds fucking sick, kind of dude.
	Like, for real, for real, though, dude.
	Like, I'm thinking about it, and I'm thinking about how, like, surf up, dude.
	It's fucking radical Islam.
	Put your hand down.
	Radical Islam, baby.
	This guy's Shaka Braun.
	That's over here.
	For real, for real, though.
	Shaka Nam.
	Shaka Nam.
	The rest of the world is radical Islam.
	I'm thinking that MAGA is, like, pretty, like, uh,.
	Chopped off, dude.
	There's a larger point to why Steven is obsessing with this little 30 minute video from Caitlin.
	Sure.
	He's got a thesis.
	Oh.
	If you wonder why, and this is the problem sometimes, is that those on the conservative right, the MAGA right, nationalist, whatever you want to call it, you know, we have a pretty nationalist.
	Okay.
	You're approaching this logically.
	And so it's very hard for you to understand how could someone who has an LGBTQ pin support Islam and say we're all people?
	How could they condemn you as a fascist?
	And say that you're a danger to our country while supporting a religion, every time it's reached a majority of a country results in execution for homosexual activity and gross violations of basic human rights, not even feminist equal rights, basic human rights for women in those countries.
	How?
	Well, for the same reason that Greta can condemn capitalist nations for burning fossil fuels while demanding that capitalist nations allow fossil fuels to go to communist ones.
	Their allegiance is exclusively, at the end of the day, they will choose communism.
	They will choose Marxism.
	It's not about Islam.
	It's not about LGBTQ.
	It's not about feminism.
	It's not about abortion and women's rights.
	It's not about Black Lives Matter.
	Antipa, take all of them.
	Their loyalty is to.
	Marxism, communism.
	That's the root of it.
	Stephen's an idiot.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the false equivalency about Greta being pro giving resources to Cuba instead of, you know, starving and killing their people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	I'm against processed food, but if processed food prevents people from dying, I'm going to give them processed food.
	Yeah.
	If we have a big truck of Doritos, I'm not going to dump it into the ocean.
	What are we talking about, Stephen?
	Yeah.
	It's well, it's that's an easy one.
	All of these are just you, if you simplify complex ideas down to stupid ideas and talk about them stupidly, yeah, they're going to sound smart.
Doritos Flavor Swaps and Monoculture 00:08:42
	Right.
	Like, that's it.
	It's radical Islam or maga.
	I'll never have to pick that directly, ever.
	So I'm not going to.
	No, you do.
	Gun to your head, bro.
	Gun to your head, bro.
	Cool.
	Shoot me.
	I don't want to fucking live in this world without the situation.
	I can't give you any more vitality.
	Kill me to 60 blacks.
	I can stop talking to you.
	Please.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And that whole question that you hear all the time, it's the line famously that Jerry Seinfeld wrote for Benjamin Netanyahu Gays for Islam.
	That's like chicken fingers for chicken mans.
	KFC.
	Yeah, the Colonel.
	Close.
	He's a chicken man.
	Allegedly, Jerry Seinfeld wrote that for Benjamin Netanyahu.
	I heard that he got it from every Facebook post in the last year.
	Quite fucking plagiarist.
	He got that from my uncle, actually.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Plagiarist Jerry Seinfeld, B movie and a frosted writer.
	Of course, and also not.
	Pedophile, but hebophile, Jerry Seinfeld.
	Shoshona, she was 16 when I met her.
	I forget what her name was.
	I don't know.
	I can't remember either.
	Either way, yeah, that whole argument about why LGBTQ people are pro Islam is insane.
	It's insane.
	Let me get, let me, because you're here and I don't want to like lose my train of thought on it, but like the thing that he's saying is like, oh, you know, yeah, gays and Islam, like somehow this doesn't exist, right?
	And it's like, do you think that like, Gay is a choice, and I think, like, kind of the answer might be yes to some extent.
	Like, I think Steve for sure does, yeah.
	And so, it's just sort of more of this like, you have to like, oh, Gerald too, he's a conversion therapist, right?
	Right, yeah, it's all like choice based stuff.
	So, it's like, it's not if you're gay, it's like, if it's like what you're choosing to do.
	So, it's like, what is this disconnect that he's like trying to fuck with?
	Like, somehow you cross a border, and just because like their parents' religion is Islam, and maybe they don't really even necessarily follow that, but regardless, like.
	Sexuality doesn't know religion.
	It's immoral, right?
	So, like, whatever you're interested in, that's what you're interested in.
	So, like, it goes beyond some religious belief or some sort of like economic belief or, like, you know, whatever.
	And he should know this the most because he chose to put, like, you know, childish things away and put Dr. Hyde back underneath, you know, re button his shirt, his lab coat, and pull it back in.
	And it's like, so it sounds like you're ashamed by these thoughts that you had.
	And now you think that that's like, Universally applied, like globally, right?
	Like, gays don't exist inside these Middle Eastern countries that are, you know, frowned, they'll throw you off a damn roof if you're gay.
	It's like, do you think that suddenly it just stops that there aren't like gay clubs in these places that are like, I don't know.
	I mean, like, didn't they talk about, like, the tunnels, like, the Jewish tunnels and shit?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, Steven?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
	They talked about that.
	Like, I know that we talked about it, but, like, it's sort of like in the same thing where it's like, yeah, like, people are hedonists.
	And I think that's sort of like having this, you know, religious sort of thing looming over their head that doesn't stop their dicks from getting hard.
	You know, like, that's ultimately what it comes down to.
	The big thing is, there's a huge difference between fundamental Islam that's taking place in these oppressive countries, you know, that have those beliefs about throwing gay people off the roofs, and the folks who choose to immigrate to the United States and still practice that faith here, you know?
	Totally.
	Yeah, well, I think also it comes down to the fact that they have these arguments in this situation.
	There are always these bad faith arguments about how you have to agree with the whole thing always.
	Yeah.
	Kind of like when you look back and you have a conversation of when they say, oh, Democrats started the KKK or whatever.
	It's like no one gives a shit about the name except for you.
	Right?
	I don't.
	It's a label, but it's also an evolving label.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Things change.
	And I hear that, you know, gays for Islam, you know, all the things.
	I hear that when people are specifically talking about injustices towards people in these other countries and how we want to help prevent them.
	But that's not really the case here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's also, it's not like, like, I can see somebody being, you know, killed for a religion that they have and disagree with aspects of that religion.
	Yeah.
	That's fine.
	I'm not, I'm an atheist.
	And if there was a Christian who was being, For being Christian, I would say, hey, don't do that, even though I don't agree with a lot of Christian ideas.
	Even though I believe it's kind of maybe one of the leading causes for violence and pain across the world, I still believe that people who are being oppressed, especially minorities who are being targeted, that's something that you need to stand up for.
	Right.
	And that's the priority.
	Right.
	If there was a bigot who was about to be murdered, I would still save their life if I could.
	What's that?
	I'm getting a message in my ear.
	Oh, what is that?
	My earpiece is saying that I'm wrong.
	Idiot.
	About all this.
	Damn, what the hell?
	Yeah.
	And this is why I believe we need to have full – just full stop on Islamic immigration.
	When you have two worldviews, people from two cultures and societies that are fundamentally and diametrically opposed on their principles, they cannot coexist.
	They can never coexist.
	The only way that happens is if one of them, one of them compromises and changes their fundamental values.
	Historically, if two parties are attempting that, the one that is most violent wins because the less violent party.
	Will compromise.
	That's what you're seeing in the West.
	The fuck is wrong with that?
	Well, he's not fucking looking around, dude.
	If he's looking to the West, he'd see Utah.
	He'd see that the LDS church.
	Now you can drink cold caffeine.
	Dirty sodas everywhere.
	Hell yeah.
	Hell yeah, dude.
	I'm just saying, people are changing.
	People are doing different things.
	Well, that's because the soda capitalists are violent, dude.
	Well, and what are they?
	You know what I mean?
	They're American Islam, Dennis.
	You know?
	The LDS church.
	How are they, dude?
	You know?
	I just can't believe he's.
	Discussing this kind of monoculture concept.
	Yeah, he acts like Christian and Islam were like a line in that Katy Perry song.
	They're that opposite, you know?
	Because you're hot and you're cold.
	You're Christian and you're Islam.
	Sounds like a Tom McDonald track.
	It does, yeah.
	It's hot coffee.
	You can't drink the.
	I love that she's dating Justin Thoreau now.
	He's really in his hot girl era these days.
	Yeah, dude, he is.
	Did you see Trudeau?
	What's his name?
	Yeah, Justin Trudeau.
	Did you see Andrew Tate's response?
	To their picture?
	No.
	He said, Two.
	Great.
	Great job, Andrew.
	What a fucking smoke their asses, dude.
	Shit.
	Oh my God.
	Christianity and Islam have so much more in common than you think they do as far as like the way that you live your life.
	Well, I don't need to do and believe the same things as my neighbors.
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	That's like saying, like, I go to the grocery store and I look at a guy buying a different kind of chips than I like, and I go, fuck, that guy likes you, dude.
	You fucking freak.
	Deal chips?
	Why don't you just Eat a pickle, you fucking piece of shit.
	Sexual loser.
	Honestly, we need to do violence.
	It's like Ruffles versus Ruffles.
	Because if I compromise, if I'm less violent, you'll take me over and I'll only have dill chips.
	Dude, dill chips, we're going to fucking knock you out.
	You better listen up.
	Miss Vicky's, you put a little spice in there and you think I'm going to enjoy that?
	Spicy tail.
	I probably will.
	I'll try it and I'll probably like it.
	But we're playing Blaze type of America around here, okay?
	It won't be my go to, but I'll try it out.
	Now, Mike, my old.
	I won't tell.
	I'll get the small bag.
	I won't get the big bag, right?
	I want a taste.
	I don't want several tastes.
	Fuck.
	Dennis is looking at me like he doesn't know they make spicy dill chips.
	No, no, no.
	I just was thinking about how Ruffles and Doritos did a flavor swap.
	Oh, I got them.
	I tried the Ruffles Cool Ranch.
	They taste like sour cream and onion.
	I tried the Madison Beer.
	Uh oh.
	There they are.
	Yeah, I hear that.
	What is that?
	What is that?
	That's the Cool Ranch.
	Is that Ruffles Cool Ranch?
	Doritos Ruffles, dude.
	Don't they taste like sour cream and onion?
	Yeah, they're not really spectacular.
	It's like a.
	Hey, man, fuck you.
	Don't judge me.
	I tried the Ruffles.
	I like how Heat Bar.
	I tried the Sweet Heat Barbecue Flavor Swap Madison Beer Cheetos.
	They're pretty good.
	Are they good?
	Yeah, nice.
	I'll tell you real quick Golden Sriracha Doritos.
	Those were fun.
	Those are fine.
	Everyone's calling them the new cool ranch.
	Did you get those?
	They're going to be the flavor that changes the nation.
Spicy Dill Chips and Ruffles Cool Ranch 00:11:15
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Is it like a movie?
	A movie about it?
	No, I remember reading an article saying that it's redefining the brand.
	What the hell?
	They need 3D Doritos.
	They got Madison Golden Sriracha to complete it.
	Dude, I'll fuck around with the 3D Doritos.
	The thing is weird, huh?
	I do love those.
	Doritos thinks this flavor is the next cool ranch.
	Yeah, that's what I'm telling you.
	I wasn't wrong.
	They got a spicy ranch Dorito, though.
	The Dynamitos or whatever.
	Have you seen those?
	I tried.
	Yeah, I did try those as well.
	I like that crunch.
	It's a great crunch.
	Back to Islam Christianity debates.
	This is the last clip of that segment.
	Okay.
	And Stephen isn't holding back.
	Okay.
	Let's just walk through this logically.
	Well, I don't think they're pushing it.
	You don't have the right to judge.
	Of course you do.
	You know, they're not pushing hate.
	They literally push hate for anyone who is not a part of their cult.
	You know, you just need to let people be who they are.
	Does Islam?
	Name me one Islamic country where they just let you be who you are to the degree that the Trump administration does.
	One.
	Ever.
	Ever in the history of mankind, name me one Islamic nation throughout all of humanity that was more tolerant to alternative lifestyles and your views than the current Trump administration.
	One comment.
	It's not the point.
	Does Stephen think that the Trump administration and anyone in Stephen's group of people are tolerant to worldviews beyond theirs?
	Because they aren't.
	I think that's really interesting.
	Yeah, they're expecting other countries to be more accepting of differences in culture, letting people be.
	Our country's not accepting of these things.
	I mean, our country.
	In their perfect country, we wouldn't be so tolerant.
	Exactly.
	They want to be less tolerant.
	His whole segment was about how he's so ashamed of that man for having attractions to another man.
	Yeah.
	Seems pretty intolerant.
	It seems pretty intolerant, man.
	Would you rather be restrained over here or restrained over there?
	And are they really that different?
	Where should I tie you up?
	Interesting.
	That is kind of hot.
	No, no.
	This whole idea, though, he's saying that these other countries that they're wrong for doing this are being not tolerant of folks being progressive in how they are.
	Yeah.
	But he wants that.
	Right.
	I don't know.
	I just don't know what he's saying.
	It's just like right now when people say, hey, if you look at the gas prices of this country, That's what you can expect if Joe Biden wins.
	What?
	But that's the current state.
	Yeah.
	You know, same kind of thing.
	He doesn't understand that he's fighting for the oppression that he's acting like he's not fighting for.
	Again, and then there's this comparison to other countries as if we want to be comparing ourselves to other countries.
	Yeah.
	He doesn't care about that.
	It's like the abusive partner who says, You don't know what you have while you're holding onto their collar really hard.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what he's saying.
	They're all communists now.
	Yeah, it's all.
	New Red Scare is the.
	Of course, dude.
	I'm not surprised.
	And you know that this all started in the echoes of Cisco Shakedown.
	That's where we've come to this.
	That's why we're talking about this.
	Is he mad because he found out that Dave Holmes is gay?
	I really liked him before I found out he was gay.
	He was a great host.
	Please don't tell me Carson's the same way.
	I will fucking kill myself if Carson Daly's gay.
	But at least Kennedy's like a super liberal.
	No, Kennedy's on his side.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He got Kennedy at least.
	Now, how do we get out of a segment like this?
	We get, I guess, a phone call.
	Okay, I thought we were going to talk about chips again.
	Yeah, someone calls in.
	Hold on, angry lesbian, maga, lookalike competition winner.
	You would rather have anyone other than President Trump, really?
	Even say, I don't know, Mel Gibson?
	What do you mean?
	What?
	I was just referencing it.
	It was just a reference to you, it wasn't anything else.
	And if you get raped by a pack of ners, it'll be your fault.
	Well, I don't.
	He just comes and goes so fast.
	They do move in hurts.
	It's a little harsh.
	Jeez.
	Come on, Mel.
	All right.
	So, not much of a reason to play that other than to highlight who recorded it to themselves.
	The clear racist comment.
	Yeah, that's all they wanted to do.
	Comment from Gerald.
	Yeah.
	You know what they mean when they say anybody but Trump.
	You know what they mean.
	Stopping a fucking idiot.
	They're in packs.
	Gerald?
	Gross.
	Yeah.
	Gross shit.
	It's the grossest thing.
	Should be ashamed.
	Really embarrassing behavior.
	Of course, he should be ashamed.
	Does Gerald have kids?
	Does Gerald have kids?
	You know, I actually don't know.
	I don't think he does.
	I feel like he does, too.
	I think we've mentioned him sitting around the table with his wife.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's interesting, though.
	If he does, I hope they hate him.
	I have a feeling they probably are his best friend.
	They're his best friend, but he's not their best friend.
	Yeah, maybe not.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't always like to play out of context things, but sometimes I feel like we need to be reminded of what they consider humor and how it's like.
	Kind of really sick shit.
	Yeah.
	On to our last segment, which involves a familiar face.
	I don't know if we've talked much about Vicki Palladino recently.
	It came up around the whole Varma conspiracy.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So the New York City Council is bringing Councilwoman Vicki Palladino up on ethics charges.
	Why?
	For Islamophobia.
	What kind of Islamophobia?
	She wrote things in tweets far less severe than I guarantee you, you watching, listening.
	Have thought and written.
	Okay.
	Minimize tweets, even though.
	Yeah, miss me with that bullshit.
	Like acting like.
	Those are statements.
	The words you say don't fucking matter because they're typed out on a screen that you look at.
	Fuck off, man.
	You guys were crying all about people saying shit about Charlie Kirk dying.
	Fuck you, dude.
	It's selective in terms of, yeah, what matters, right?
	Yes.
	Don't minimize fucking words.
	Those are statements, but.
	Yes.
	Especially when they're coming from government officials.
	Yes.
	And the council has the full moral support of the Islamic mayor, Mamdani.
	Do you think it's time for the council to.
	Expel Vicky Palladino?
	Are you going to call on them to do that?
	I'm heartened by the actions that the council has taken.
	I will leave the council to answer further questions on the specificity.
	I know they're currently undertaking a process.
	Oh, he's heartened.
	Maybe that's why Mamdani appointed former Al Qaeda lawyer Ramsey Qasim as New York City's chief counsel.
	That's pretty cool.
	Well, it's actually not that uncool.
	This whole concept of Al Qaeda lawyer, I don't.
	Is this a lawyer that represented people from Al Qaeda in the United States?
	Yeah.
	So you got it immediately.
	This is someone who represented folks in.
	No, these were guys that, like, they were driving the plane.
	They jumped out at the last minute.
	And they were like, we actually didn't do it.
	You got us on camera.
	And they got him off.
	This guy had a briefcase.
	Not a briefcase.
	He was like, I got to pass the bar.
	Yeah.
	So they call this guy an Al Qaeda lawyer, but he represents, like Dennis pointed out, the Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to counsel.
	So he represented some folks at Guantanamo Bay.
	How dishonest of a fucking person do you have to be?
	I mean, it's.
	Stephen level?
	He says this maybe six to nine times, maybe six to seven times.
	Sorry.
	That's like saying that a criminal justice lawyer is just.
	You want a lawyer who represents criminals?
	I mean, there were lawyers that defended Nazis during Nuremberg.
	Yes.
	There were lawyers that represented Timothy McVeigh, like all kinds of folks because we.
	That is their job.
	Yeah.
	They defend criminals in the court system.
	Yeah.
	There are lawyers who represent Guantanamo detainees.
	And that's kind of the situation we're in here.
	Calling Kasima an Al Qaeda lawyer because he represented Guantanamo Bay detainees, like calling any public defender an accomplice in a crime.
	It's just not.
	They should have said they didn't want representation.
	I don't want fair representation.
	I'm not from this country.
	I'm an Islamist.
	Woohoo, you fucking freak American.
	I mean, a lot of them also said they didn't want to eat and they just got force fed or anally fed.
	Yeah, it's pretty horrific shit happened in Guantanamo as well.
	Yeah.
	Pretty gross stuff, but we don't need to talk about this.
	The bags on the heads of the Abu grave.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, again, I'm not going to defend the actions of stuff like that, but I think that there's some decency that should be allowed to all people.
	And that's why we have.
	I think that you cannot fault a public defender.
	Uh huh.
	And I don't know if it was a public defender.
	It was a public defender?
	Like, was it court appointed?
	Or was it like, did they hire this person?
	So he and his students represented 15 prisoners of various nationalities incarcerated without fair process at Guantanamo Bay.
	So it was a choice.
	Seems, but okay.
	Well, I mean, if you're a law student, I'd be curious if it was part of like a legal thing, regardless.
	Um, you can't just like blanket say that criminal defense attorneys are bad people because they defend criminals.
	No, I mean, he alleged criminals, so he does have a focus on sounds like civil rights violations, exactly.
	It said wrongfully imprisoned or whatever it said, yeah.
	So he's the founding director of CLEAR at the City University of New York School of Law.
	So he taught previously at Yale and uh, Ford, him you know, he's argued before the Supreme Court.
	The Second Circuit, the D.C. Circuit, the Military Commission at Guantanamo Bay, which we're talking about.
	He's very well.
	So, you're saying that this Islam problem goes deeper than I thought?
	Okay, well, that could be.
	But, you know, his practice focuses on civil rights, constitutional law, immigration, national security, wartime detention, and war crimes cases.
	So, it sounds like a good person to represent somebody in that case.
	Exactly.
	And they're defending a criminal just like anyone would.
	Well, yeah.
	And it's not like this person's coming out of nowhere.
	He served as a policy advisor for.
	For immigration on the White House Domestic Policy Council under Biden.
	Oh, okay.
	There it is, dude.
	You said it.
	We got to it, dude.
	I mean, the big reason that Steve's pissed off, and the same with Vicky Palladino.
	Palladino?
	Valencourt.
	Paladino.
	Palladino.
	Vicky Palladino is that Momdani appointed him as chief counsel, you know, in saying that CLEAR, the group that he founded, have been, quote, on the front lines of providing legal defense for students detained by ICE.
	So, I mean, there's some politics involved, of course, but when isn't there, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm not surprised this person previously represented a terrorist.
	Named Ahmed Al Darbi.
	Now, for those of you who don't know, and we don't very often have local council people on the show, it's just that she's awesome, and Gerald met her in person.
	For those of you who don't remember New York City Councilwoman Vicki Palladino, she's the kind of representative that you want, representative of her constituents.
Vicky Palladino Representing Terrorists 00:12:51
	I remember in our discussion surrounding our introduction to Vicki, maybe well over a year ago at this point, it was during the Varma.
	Go back to, we did a two-parter on Jay Varma, who was having basically not.
	Freak offs, mini freak offs, yeah, code freak outs.
	I don't know, freak ins, technically, crash outs, where he was having folks over to his house to have swinger sex during the COVID pandemic.
	And he was also in charge of giving recommendations for how policies should be totally implemented.
	So it was a little he was saying rules for thee, but not for me.
	Well, you can't have more than eight people in there, better have a six foot dick because you, yeah, because you got to stand in the hallway.
	They can only have eight people in the apartment at the same time.
	So they're cycling them in and out.
	No one really, they didn't break the rules.
	That's true, dude.
	I mean, so Vicki took the opportunity to call out Jay as well as authoritarian policies surrounding COVID 19 vaccines.
	So, yeah, just shut down.
	Very skeptical of the vaccine, the poison shot, of course.
	Yeah, well, I mean, I was vaccine injured.
	That's up in my fingernail.
	Oh, I see that now.
	Yeah, you better get.
	The robots taken out of your blood?
	I'm working on it, yeah.
	I've got a med bed in the bed.
	I've got ivermectin on order.
	You got the med bed?
	You got to let me get in that med bed.
	Yeah, crawl in my bed.
	Crawl in my bed, dude.
	Why don't you take a lay?
	Okay.
	No, I remember watching the press conference in which her and Gerald connected.
	It gave me like kind of warm, fuzzy flashbacks to COVID era, simpler times where people were just saying like weird nonsense, like COVID came from rattlesnake venom in the water.
	You know, and it felt kind of good.
	And I didn't ever expect to see her again.
	But here we are because of her racism, I suppose.
	Yeah, I guess.
	December 14th, 2025.
	This is why they're attempting to oust her.
	She tweeted Drew Pavlo after the Bondi Beach attack.
	Remember that in Australia?
	She wrote, We're in the middle of a global jihad, the likes of which the world has never seen, and we cannot ignore it.
	Oh my God, the hate speech.
	We need to take very seriously the need to begin the expulsion of Muslims from Western nations or at least, or at the very least, the severe sanction of them within Western borders.
	The administration needs to begin developing a formal legal framework for the denaturalization process and get it over with before we end up with another 9-11 or worse.
	Enough is enough.
	She's actually proposing some kind of a formal legal framework to deal with the threat.
	These are the kinds of conversations that council people are supposed to have.
	Yes.
	Imagine her saying that and just replace the word Islam with Christians.
	That's disgusting of you to even suggest.
	Stephen would lose his fucking mind.
	He understands it.
	But no, it's a policy discussion, though, and that makes it okay and not racist.
	Listen, okay?
	These are animals.
	It's in their genetics.
	They go bad.
	Uh huh.
	That's the same kind of nonsense that we would never expect to hear, right?
	No, we would never expect this president to hear that.
	Not from the president, yeah.
	Or to say that Japan loves surprises.
	Both of those statements from the last few weeks.
	That you guys are coming.
	Why didn't you tell me?
	He's such a fucking.
	Those would have been career ending.
	They would have been career ending for anybody else.
	Anybody else.
	Literally any other politician that could be career ending.
	But for him.
	Instead, he was like, hey man, 40s was a long time ago.
	But you could have told me.
	Honestly, what else are you guys up to?
	I thought we shook hands, bro.
	No, but her publicly calling for the expulsion and denaturalization in an actual systemic way.
	Yeah, that's calling for a genocide.
	Not a genocide because they're just removing them from the country.
	But that's still genocidal.
	Yeah, based on a faith.
	Yeah, you don't get to do that.
	Especially in a land like ours where you have the freedom of religion.
	You just don't.
	That's unconstitutional.
	You may disagree with the religion.
	That's fine.
	Disagree with it.
	I don't give a shit.
	We're based on Christian values, though.
	What about that separation of church thing?
	It doesn't matter.
	That's a federal thing, not state thing.
	Vicki, certainly you wouldn't continue saying fuck up shit about it.
	New York is under foreign occupation.
	There's really no other way to put it.
	Does this administration have one single actual American in it?
	Affiliation with a terrorist group sure seems like a prerequisite for employment with Zoran's administration.
	Fair point.
	No.
	Not a fair point.
	So she's claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood is somehow affiliated with groups that are.
	Associated with Mamdani, and it's just not true.
	Muslim people might be associated with Mamdani.
	Yeah.
	And yes.
	Did organizations donate to him?
	Like private organizations who can make, like, a untaxed contribution to a campaign?
	I think the bigger thing here is just get money out of politics, right?
	I think that's a big concern for you.
	Just do that.
	No, but I mean, she's more offended with folks praying.
	Yeah, right.
	In public.
	Oh my God.
	Expressing their faith.
	But then we get to see pictures and video of everyone laying hands on Trump and talking in tongues.
	Like, what are we doing?
	Really?
	It's different when they do it because it's funnier because he's Trump.
	He's got a funny haircut.
	That's true.
	And he's like shitting his pants at the same time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He is duping it right now.
	Yeah, dude.
	Caitlin Bennett style.
	Yeah.
	No, just because someone believes it in a different faith than you does not mean you're under foreign occupation.
	It's such nasty language, and I hear it all the time, man.
	It's so gross.
	It's so just, yeah, it's just so disgusting.
	Get her out.
	That's not helpful.
	I don't think it's very helpful, no.
	I think that what she's saying, if they determine, and, you know, he said that he's heartened that they're taking it seriously.
	He didn't weigh in on, you know.
	Yeah, he said, I trust them to do what they need to do.
	Which is the responsible thing to do, as opposed to trying to directly influence your attorney general to politically prosecute your opponents and people you disagree with.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But you can rest assured.
	That when there is someone who is needing to protect their right to be a bigot, Stephen will be there to protect them.
	Well, yeah, the lawyer that they have on the show in a minute that I didn't pull any clips of directly because I was like, I don't really give a fuck what this guy says.
	At least he's not an Al Qaeda lawyer.
	Yeah, dude, come on.
	He's not Al Qaeda.
	He only represents DUIs and people named Vicky.
	And people named Vicky.
	Bigots, DUIs, hate speech defendants, free speech activists.
	Yeah.
	People named.
	Vicki.
	Did you use a hard R?
	I'm here for you.
	I mean, honestly, we could probably make a buck or two doing that.
	I bet so, dude.
	He has a speech thing.
	A's are ours to him.
	You see the BAFTAs?
	It's like that.
	Last clip of the day, boys.
	They're trying to ouster, and our guest is facing a former Al Qaeda lawyer for their troubles.
	February 22nd, reacted to images of New York City officials who were participating in the Islamic prayer.
	Many of you had reactions.
	Your council members should represent you.
	So then, with that context, you tell me this is out of line.
	Zoran wants to make sure we know Muslims are apparently in charge of the snow removal and that we see them praying to whatever they pray to, I guess.
	This is part of Islamic conquest.
	Mass prayers in the streets, call to prayer blasting five times a day throughout the city and the mayor conspicuously putting Islam first, both in his hires and his public media.
	The message is very clear.
	We are being replaced.
	And if a Christian mayor had been half as conspicuously religious, the left would be apoplectic.
	Despite this being a historically functionally Christian nation, It's all about revolution and dismantling the country as it was founded.
	That's all she said.
	That's what she said.
	And that's all we can take for today.
	I mean, we can discuss the clip.
	Stephen's being such a little bad faith prick here.
	It's acting like them praying to a certain direction is weird.
	Dude, you close your eyes and you stare at your fucking table while you thank God for your food.
	Yeah, you reach towards the sky.
	Chill the fuck out.
	You put your hands on the president.
	And think you're summoning God into him.
	Yeah, right.
	Like, you cannot look at one religion and say that it's ridiculous because it's slightly different than your fucking religion.
	Like, it's just absolutely insane.
	Stephen's going to just do that because Stephen is just being a xenophobe.
	Whatever they pray to.
	Whatever it is.
	I don't fucking know.
	They put their hell on the ground.
	It's fucking weird.
	And four people in perfect time start laughing.
	Their laughter light came on.
	It did.
	That's really fucking funny.
	They're walking along in the script and they're waiting for the.
	Oh, I forgot to highlight the laughter.
	Oh, I forgot the laugh part.
	Oh, fuck.
	I thought that was.
	I mean, maybe that's where the crickets come from, is typically they miss their cue.
	Yeah, they don't.
	In the first run, so they don't get it.
	They just don't even laugh at that part.
	Kind of looking at their phone.
	He needs to do more of a second screen experience for his employees, maybe.
	You know, like really, really write in a couple more plot points, just keep repeating himself over and over and over.
	Maybe that'll work for him.
	I love that idea.
	Yeah.
	Silly stuff.
	If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	Reach out on social media at thencrowder on Blue Sky and XD Everything app, as well as we have an email address, louderthancrowder.gmail.com.
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	That's the show that we criticize.
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	But we do have louderwithcrowder.net if anyone needs to go there.
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	You should probably take a peek at that and maybe point it towards our merch store.
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	But I will forward it.
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	Jared, you made it, buddy.
	I'm all the way here.
	I did have my eyes closed for the most of the episode, but it was kind of fun because I was kind of doing theater of the mind.
	Yeah, you get to go inside.
	He was imagining us, dude.
	Yeah, and I was thinking about all the mugs that were sitting behind you and all the people that need to check their emails and confirm their addresses.
	Confirm your address for me.
	Yes.
	So you can sip like a star.
	Sip like a shrug rat.
	Yum, yum.
	Get you some.
	Ooh.
	We should just all start with a sip next time.
	Yeah, we should.
	That's the next thing.
	We got to start doing that.
	We should start with chugs instead.
	We should chug it.
	Spring break.
	Spring break.
	Burp hard and wet burps.
	You got that wet burp at the beginning of the episode.
	You can pull that one.
	That's not a bad idea, boys.
	It's good to be back in the saddle ish.
	We got some more Steven coming up and some guests going to be on the show moving forward.
	Forward.
	I'm replacing Dennis, which will be cool.
	Hell yeah.
	I got shit to do.
	It's going to be great.
	Never Dennis.
	Everyone's happy you're back.
	I'm happy to be back with you guys.
	Oh, not with this fucking guy?
	Not happy to be back with Steven or the world.
	Just so you know, we never know what's going to happen next week.
	No.
	Who knows?
	Maybe some shit happening next week.
	Hit us up.
	What's happening next week?
	There's a chat?
	I guarantee that we're going to have some sort of mass casualty event.
	It's America.
	Yeah.
	We are going to blame something on someone.
	Are we doing odds like over under on.
	We do Poly Market.
	Mass.
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	Yeah, we make a lot of money on the side.
	It's fucking depressing.
	We do.
	We hang out in the prediction markets.
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	Review us on Apple Podcasts.
	We haven't said that in a while, but we don't have any new ones.
	I've been looking for some new ones, but yeah, I mean, they're good.
	Well, they're fine.
	I think I'm about ready to give a free hat to the hundredth review.
	Oh, nice.
	You see that?
	We're at 99 right now.
	Oh, we are.
	Hell yeah.
	If you're the number, maybe that a dang hard dickel comment or something.
	The T-Slur Willow?
	Yeah, yeah, Will's T-Slur.
	And ADHD, a damn hard dick.
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Chapters

00:00:02 Welcome Back to Louder Than Crowder
00:14:46 Stacking Mugs for the Mug Club
00:17:57 Canadian Charts and Celine Dion
00:32:50 Neck Cysts and Gay Songs
00:36:47 Primary Elections and Hot Lyrics
00:48:00 Massive Things Impacting November
00:56:53 Kent State Gun Girl Situation
00:59:38 MAGA Republicans and Everyday Lives
01:07:07 Doritos Flavor Swaps and Monoculture
01:15:49 Spicy Dill Chips and Ruffles Cool Ranch
01:27:04 Vicky Palladino Representing Terrorists
01:39:55 Betting on Klarna Prediction Markets