Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 76: PIERS, MORE, AGAIN (NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025)

Dec. 10, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 76: PIERS, MORE, AGAIN (NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025)

This week the Boys plan on taking pills ahead of playing catch-up, before Steven drags a free speech dead horse into Piers Morgan's studio to beat. "THE BOYS" shirts are available NOW! Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Theme music by DJ Danarchy

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	Well, thanks for having me.
	I think...
	I think you're right.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast, Louder with Crowder.
	My name is Byron.
	It's not Red Pill Bill.
	Sorry.
	Is that my character?
	Well, yeah, the hat that I got here.
	This is I Sell the Cure.
	Oh, nice.
	I never actually read your hats usually.
	Well, I like it.
	I think it's probably fun.
	I'll read it more often.
	Across from me, Dennis, who doesn't pay attention to my fashions at all.
	No, I don't at all.
	That's fine.
	And deep inside Occupied Texas, it's the Theo Vaughan of the Left.
	It's Jared.
	What's your name, Theo Vaughn of the Left?
	No, it's not.
	It's like a question.
	They already asked you guys a question.
	Y'all ever tried Kale before?
	No, you know how they're always saying, who's going to be the Joe Rogan of the left?
	But no one's asking who the Theo Vaughn is.
	True, true.
	I think it's Jared.
	This is our Leo John right here, dude.
	I'll take it.
	I'll take it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And I remember a time, post-coconut pilling and the actual free and fair election, after the gloating glow faded, with no uphill battles, no underdogging, not a virus or Soros in sight, foreign wars and genocide ignored, it seemed for a minute like Stephen might actually just be a boring guy.
	And yeah, he is.
	But after a shift in interpretation of our country's support of Israel and the undeniable atrocities they put upon the people of Palestine, as well as instances of gun violence that they've selectively chosen to care about based on who the victim is and also if the perpetrator is a they, them.
	It's safe to say we've got some catching up to do.
	And we are.
	Black and white on the gray issues.
	We've got deport all illegals change my mind and all snap benefits change my mind so much more, as well as the results of their Halloween costume contest.
	I haven't forgotten about that.
	We haven't.
	It's been that long.
	It's been a bit.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	But yeah, that's why today, once I saw Stephen has once again made an appearance on our favorite American-centric British panel program, Uncensored.
	He loves Piers Morgan so much.
	Yeah, I thought, why not?
	Let's listen raw and share some stories.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No notes?
	No clips?
	I've got clips.
	Oh, you got it.
	I mean, I've got some clips.
	I just thought, I've clearly listened to it a little bit, but I thought we should just share our arguments.
	Give me an IV of Steven, dude.
	Hang out.
	I mean, this is kind of what it's like to watch us live do a double salutes almost, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is kind of like doing a double salutes.
	Maybe you want to watch us do that live at Woke YouTube.
	Well, you could go to wokeyoutube.com and twitch.tv slash audio world network.
	You can also do that.
	I forget our URLs.
	But yeah, today we're going to be covering the November 20th episode, Flinging Shit at Each Other, MAGA's Israel War with Benny Johnson and Steven Crowder.
	That's Pierce Morgan's uncensored.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	But first, we have to talk about the emails, boys.
	What emails?
	Her emails.
	Actually, my emails.
	This is kind of interesting.
	It'll have to be printed on red paper.
	This is spooky.
	I like it.
	I only use red paper now.
	Nice.
	This is an email I got November 5th at 6.37 p.m.
	That was a Wednesday from crowdershop.com.
	Ooh, nice.
	What do we got?
	got deals uh this is i'll just hand you this Okay.
	It's called Foundation, Dennis.
	Oh, Foundation Nutrition.
	Are you familiar with this at all?
	I do remember seeing this now, yeah.
	This is at my house.
	Well, actually.
	I ordered some of this.
	I got an Instagram ad.
	Well, give me one second.
	I've been pretty strong lately if you understand what I mean.
	All right.
	Well, we'll talk about it.
	Let's jump over to the November 3rd episode of Louder Than Crowder, which was called Tucker, Carlson, and MAGA.
	Everyone is missing the point, but I don't know if we're going to get around to it.
	Is he MAGA?
	Is he not MAGA?
	Well, that's really not my place to say, but I think that people are responding perfectly wrong.
	It's pretty easy to decipher who we line up with or who lines up with us if you simply use the litmus test.
	Hey, is this truthful or is it a falsehood?
	And that brings me to something.
	I just want to take one minute to talk with you about this today.
	The first company that I've ever actually launched right here, we've been approached time and time again, right, in this industry and podcasting.
	It's constantly being flooded with supplement companies.
	And without naming names, most of them are horse crap.
	Most of them do nothing.
	Most of them have proprietary blends and they offer more money than God has for us to push them to you.
	How much money God got, huh?
	God doesn't have any money.
	Tell me about that.
	So I just want to say.
	We made money.
	Well, yeah.
	For folks just listening, Crowder revealed a bottle, white medicine bottle wrapped in a blue label, donned with the title Foundation.
	Foundation Nutrition.
	Well, Foundation, but underneath it, it does say maximize your chowder with Crowder X. Sorry, and that was the working copy.
	So I want to say really quick, I guess maybe two, three months ago, we must have gotten that survey where they were asking what the audience wanted in the Crowder shop.
	True, yeah.
	Did you want supplements?
	Did you want freeze-dried candy?
	Freeze-dried candy, of course.
	That's why I wanted the freeze-dried grapes.
	I wanted a freeze-dried candy more than foundation.
	What we were voting was freeze-dried candy, but all right.
	Well, now we got foundation.
	What is it?
	I've started this from the ground up.
	It's really simple.
	It's not sexy.
	It's called Foundation.
	It is a daily multivitamin supplement.
	What?
	With two additional ingredients with their clinically proven doses.
	Alright, so do I have?
	I do.
	Can I just...
	What are the ingredients?
	It's a multivitamin.
	I'm going to guess.
	Ashwagandha.
	Okay, that's kind of interesting.
	And Lion's Maine.
	Well, Goji Berry.
	Chaga, of course, right?
	All right, audience.
	We gave him a second.
	Can I really quickly say, I love that he starts off by saying that all these other ones have this proprietary formula.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So his is just a regular multivitamin that he's rebranded?
	Kind of, right?
	Okay.
	But it's got two additional ingredients.
	He has a generic formula.
	He's proud of his generic formula.
	I just realized I'm wearing an I sell the cure hat pill on it, which is kind of fun.
	We need to make one that says foundation.
	We need to make a pill to sell to our audience called The Cure.
	Right?
	And it is just a vitamin, right?
	Yeah, of course.
	We just need to add it.
	With one additional.
	Three additionals.
	What's the additional?
	One extra additional.
	We've got to go bigger.
	Okay.
	Do you want me to spoil it or should I let you?
	No, I want him to tell me.
	Tomeric.
	He lives very disappointedly there for a little bit.
	All right.
	Did I?
	I think I jumped ahead.
	And without naming names, most of them are horse crap.
	Most of them do nothing.
	Most of them have proprietary blends and they offer more money than God has for us to push them to you.
	So I've started this.
	Tell me the two.
	From the ground up.
	Really simple.
	It's not sexy.
	It's called Foundation.
	It is a daily multivitamin supplement with two additional ingredients with their clinically proven doses.
	Turmeric, curcumin.
	Turmeric and cumin.
	Curcumin?
	Curcumin?
	Let's actually make, well, let me make sure because I do have it written down here.
	It is curcumin.
	He's not wrong.
	What's curcumin?
	Well, listen.
	I think it's turmeric curcumin.
	Okay.
	It was like a single thing.
	Turmeric.
	I'm not sure of this.
	Hold tight.
	So it's clinically proven to be effective in reducing inflammation.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	It's good for stress.
	It is turmeric, though.
	Yeah.
	Turmeric extract.
	It's called curcumin.
	Okay.
	The bioavailable form of it, which helps with inflammation.
	It's one of the most studied supplements out there.
	It's clinically as effective as a lot of NSAIDs like ibuprofen or aspirin and garlic extract, which is again clinically proven.
	I can say this.
	Garlic is the second thing.
	Hell yeah, dude.
	So we've got turmeric and garlic in Easton with my vitamin.
	That's great, dude.
	I usually cook with this.
	I grind this up and I use it as like a spice on my fries.
	Put a little masala on there.
	We have got to cook with this.
	We do need to cook with foundation.
	It's the foundation of every meal.
	Yes.
	Yes, of course.
	From the ground up.
	What is the cost?
	We break the pills open.
	We're dumping them into the container.
	Are they pills?
	Are they these human ingredients?
	You're asking if we can, like, if they're gel caps.
	Yeah.
	How many do I have to take a day?
	Well, let's find out.
	He might have more to say.
	Probably.
	On air, which you're usually not allowed to, to support healthy blood pressure levels, cholesterol levels.
	I've used my body as a guinea pig for the last decade and have taken these pretty much every single day for two.
	Oh, wait, wait.
	He's been taking this blend.
	He's been taking not only a normal-ass multivitamin, but also turmeric and garlic?
	He's been...
	What did he write?
	He put...
	He put his body on the line for you, okay?
	What a hero.
	Be more respectful, dude.
	I've been eating this unbranded, bland pill that your company produces.
	Yeah.
	Sell it to my company.
	My brand.
	Penny bland brand.
	Well, I mean, on page three of the announcement right here, it does say foundation, noun, a basis such as a tenant principle or axiom upon which something stands or is supported.
	That's why Foundation Daily was created.
	It is quite simply the most comprehensive, clinically proven, verifiable, verifiably pure multivitamin and heart inflammatory support supplement available today.
	So wow.
	This is next level.
	Do you think Alex Jones maybe gave him a lead?
	He's like, Steven, we're losing some of these guys.
	You got to pick some of this up.
	I mean, in my trailer here.
	If we see that Bigley is manufacturing this.
	I want to know who's manufacturing it.
	I'm trying to find it right now.
	Yeah, okay.
	Keep digging while we listen to him.
	Keep on going.
	Blood work every quarter to see if it's working.
	And it has been.
	It's been incredible for me.
	So I put them all in one supplement, Foundation.
	You can go to foundationdaily.com and lock it in.
	Get 40% off if you auto-order.
	40% off for life.
	Everything that is on the label is listed.
	It's listed at the appropriate dosage.
	These come from a certified facility where you everything on the label is listed.
	Of course it is.
	The label is the list.
	It's the list.
	That's literally what that is.
	Everything on the list is listed.
	There's nothing out of the ordinary in there.
	So I think what he's implying that people will say that there's garlic in these pills, but it's just a little sprinkle, right?
	Like I tried it, it didn't taste like garlic at all.
	It needs to be clinic, like the clinical amount, the clinically appropriate amount.
	So I think.
	No, what you're getting.
	Also, we provide certificates of analysis so that you know there's no fairy dusting, pixie dusting, whatever you call it, proprietary blends where we make promises to you that we don't deliver.
	And it's a bunch of cornstarch and they put a little bit of the active ingredient.
	It is clinically effective ingredients.
	That's what it is.
	It's clinically studied, effective dosages.
	And you can go to the website and actually read the clinical studies, trials, the meta-analysis on the ingredients included.
	You could go buy it.
	We have the foundation now in here as well.
	Fill the gaps, feel your day, it says on the website.
	Wow.
	It's a vitamin, guys.
	Like, this is a vitamin.
	And he put turmeric and garlic in it.
	He personally cooked this.
	Him and the Ahoy guy are back together cooking things.
	Oh, sad news, by the way.
	And if you'll look up in the top corner here, you'll see our good friend Alex Stein on his new program.
	What?
	Well, yeah, Alex Stein's show also went off the show.
	Yeah, I know he has a new program now.
	Well, yeah, it's called The Mind of Alex Stein.
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	Mind of Stein, I think is what he's calling it.
	Win Alex Stein's money.
	Now remember Ben Stein?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That was a fun show.
	Okay, but yeah, so Ahoy guy lost his show, and the Blaze also cut Alex Stein's show.
	Which is, I mean, honestly, I don't know if you've seen any of those shows.
	The stages they gave these guys are so fucking big.
	Like, the production level at the Blaze, like, I don't know what they were thinking, but I don't know, man.
	All right.
	Well, we're looking here.
	Can we zoom in further on this?
	Can we open this up in a new window?
	Okay.
	So this is.
	So I found some information about you have to take four capsules.
	Yeah, four of them.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the container contains 30.
	No, it's 30 servings.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, it's got 120 capsules, probably by weight.
	They don't count it.
	Excuse me.
	Oh, it has black pepper extract, dude.
	I love black pepper extracts.
	It really helps my heart feel stronger.
	So you're and I actually get a good pump if I have black pepper extracts.
	Unless you do one month recurring, it's $80 a bottle.
	Yeah, dude.
	And it's a foundation.
	Can you put a price on your foundation?
	Well, yeah, I think so, actually.
	This is just vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin D, EK, thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, B6.
	What is that?
	What's full, dude?
	I don't know what that does.
	B12, biotin for your hair.
	It's got copper, dude.
	What is this one?
	What's pantothenic acid?
	I don't know enough about these things to know.
	But here's what caught my eye: manufactured for Crowder supplements and an address there.
	Yeah, in Fayetteville.
	Did you look up the P.O. box?
	I did, and I can't find much about it.
	Okay.
	I did do a full-on search, and I have some names that I'm not going to read on the air.
	Sure.
	But I did find it linked to some their mailing address is the Pentecostal Church in Fayetteville.
	Wait, really?
	I think it might be one of those things where it's like you subscribe for like a virtual mailbox kind of a thing.
	Oh, okay.
	But because their mailing address is the exact same as Crowder Supplements.
	Well, I mean, hold up.
	Let me know.
	Let me look at the leadership.
	He's a part owner of a Christian church in Fayetteville, right?
	I don't know.
	Is he?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	He's not on the.
	We're going to keep digging.
	Oh, I can see.
	We're going to get the shrug club undercover.
	Yeah.
	The shuck.
	What was that?
	No, Jerry.
	Vitamin at the bottom.
	Yeah.
	K2.
	Uh-oh.
	Okay, buddy.
	All right.
	Now we're stinking some real fairy dust into this thing, huh?
	Yeah, that's why he would have to root up with that.
	He said, we're not putting fairy dust in there.
	Yeah, you are, K3.
	Clearly, right there.
	And this is what you smoke to crunch a face, to attack another human on the street, bite them, and suck their blood from their cheeks.
	We've seen it before.
	Wait, this actually has a rice flour in it.
	Isn't that the kind of stuff that he said?
	It had no fillers, right?
	The ingredients in the order here are vegetable cellulose, the capsule, then rice flour.
	Other ingredients.
	Oh, there's other things.
	All right.
	So we've talked way more than I anticipated.
	It's basically motion.
	I'm hyped about foundation.
	I'm going to do a lot of research on it.
	I'm going to actually, here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to order some.
	No.
	I'll report back.
	I don't think you should.
	I'll measure my biceps first.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And then measure those again after one month of foundation.
	Oh, I did screen cap it before when it had stock reviews, which was kind of funny.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	That's great.
	I'm going to.
	Oh, do I even have that?
	Because it had two people with the same review, and I was like, that's hilarious.
	Like, clearly, this is bullshit.
	Wayback Machine.
	Wayback Machine, that's for sure.
	Okay, so let's let him finish talking or selling this or whatever.
	Don't want to hear more.
	Separately.
	It would be less convenient, and it would be more expensive.
	And it's just a way to fill in the gaps.
	If you ate perfectly, you wouldn't eat anything.
	But most of us don't.
	So that's why this is the foundation of your daily nutrition.
	Everything that you would want in a multivitamin supplement, nothing that you wouldn't.
	It can benefit everybody and harm no one.
	That's exactly why we created it.
	There's too much bullcrap out there.
	And when I finally sat down with Gerald and a company, I said, look, I'd like to put together what it is that I use.
	Some of you know I don't talk about this a whole lot.
	I was born with a connective tissue disorder, so I struggle with a lot of pain, inflammation.
	This has helped me a lot.
	My lipids are good.
	My blood pressure is good.
	And I wanted to make it available to you.
	So foundationdaily.com.
	It's the opposite of promising a panacea for everything.
	It's a good base, and you can have a peace of mind.
	So on with the show.
	Oh, no.
	You know who is probably really pissed about all that.
	I know exactly who.
	I'm on the wrong board here.
	I know exactly who.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	Why don't you say in the comments?
	Please, someone in the comments.
	Don't let me say it in the comments because I don't know where it is.
	Where's your button, bro?
	Just do it yourself.
	Do it yourself.
	Well, people don't know that my board doesn't allow me to move things in order.
	And recently, my grandma died, and it's the only pictures that are on my iPad.
	So I've been using them as background images for all my sound effects.
	Dead pictures of my dead grandma, which is kind of funny.
	What do you need, dude?
	There we go.
	Pieces of shit.
	Oh, he's so mad about it.
	Okay.
	I bet he's so mad about it.
	I got there.
	I got there.
	All right.
	So, yeah, those are the emails, the only important emails that I wanted to talk about.
	Yeah, dude, these are really good.
	Can you sign me up for these?
	Yeah, of course.
	And we don't need to talk about her emails or any other emails that exist currently.
	No, I don't.
	I mean, there's no other emails I've seen on the name.
	Now, whether it's three pages or 20,000 pages, don't need to talk about it, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	I mean.
	Let's start the, like, let's go just a little bit deeper into this show.
	This is after the intro.
	Okay.
	Glad to be with you.
	I know we're a little late because, you know, I don't really like plugging stuff.
	I wish I could be like all the other people.
	It's like, buy this, buy that, buy this.
	The truth is, most things that people try to sell, you don't need and you don't want.
	It's true.
	But that's why you made your own.
	I know.
	Reject everything else.
	You make your own.
	I like it.
	It's like this.
	I will make no because everyone else makes so many promises like this is this will get rid of your third nipple.
	I can tell you it doesn't.
	It's keeping a 15-hour boner.
	Oh no.
	Did you caption?
	Oh no.
	Of course I did.
	Of course I got oh no.
	Oh, that's so great.
	I really love this.
	Oh, I hate selling shit.
	You know, I don't even care if that's why that's where we're actually late to the show.
	We're going to talk about it like we don't really care about it at all, but you know.
	Wait, what?
	I don't want to make promises.
	I don't do that.
	Owner.
	Oh, no.
	I'm not like other supplement salesmen.
	Okay.
	I've been working on this since I was a teenager.
	Wait, what?
	I've been taking pills since I was a teen, okay?
	The way that he acted, like, he's like, you know, we were in prayer, and I said, let's start selling supplements.
	Well, yeah, Jared provided me counsel, and now we're doing pill sales.
	And now we're selling supplements.
	All right.
	So that's kind of cool and exciting, right?
	That's really great.
	So I just wanted to give you guys a little bit of a catch up of what's going on over there.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, before we get too far away, I don't think we're ever going to really go all the way through Steven versus Dave Smith.
	Were you aware of this?
	It was a conversation after Dave Smith came out.
	We talked about it, the whole setup in one of our episodes.
	Yeah.
	The conversation between Quieter Than Crowder and Dave Smith that eventually led to them revisiting.
	And then having kind of a really, really cool debate, I thought it would be fun to just point out kind of like one moment in this that really kind of defines how the whole thing went.
	So I didn't actually watch this conversation.
	I don't think I got too upset when he was complaining about something else before.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Wait, who?
	Steven?
	Stephen, on this episode, he complained about.
	Steven doesn't complain.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, you're right.
	He was just speaking the truth, actually.
	So I couldn't hear it.
	I wasn't ready to hear it.
	Kind of a fun little moment about 15 minutes into it.
	Believe that it's a more effective form of world leadership and an impeachable offense to set a date, a timeline.
	Say, last call.
	I've counted to three.
	Count to three and then say, I didn't mean it.
	No.
	I'm saying.
	But that would be what he would do, effectively, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	No, I think that's silly for a president.
	Okay, right, right, right, right.
	But that's not what I said.
	But you think what you said is silly.
	Okay.
	But what I'm saying.
	No, no, he did say, right, we're 60 days up.
	Was Iran negotiating?
	Did Iran come to the negotiating table?
	Did Iran allow you to finish whenever you want to?
	And then I'll try to.
	Oh, I asked you that.
	Were the 60 days up?
	Did Donald Trump count to three?
	Yep.
	So he should continue negotiating after he sets a red line.
	Yeah, well, he would.
	Well, no, Steven.
	It's a little bit more.
	It's a little bit more than one centimeter.
	Okay.
	It's a little bit more than one centimeter deep.
	Okay.
	Please enlighten me as shallow as I am.
	Dude, it's like you just.
	I know people.
	Go ahead.
	No, just a lot of people told me that, watch out.
	He's going to be constantly interrupting you, but I didn't realize it was actually going to be like this.
	Okay, so Donald.
	All right.
	So that's just kind of a good little of the, I mean, what it's like to debate.
	He looks so happy with himself on this.
	Steven?
	I don't know.
	I think he's horribly embarrassed or he's entirely deluded, right?
	No, I mean, he thinks he has that, he knows he's triggered him kind of face.
	You know?
	I think Dave Smith, listen, I think I've went to bat for Dave Smith too much in the past.
	He's fine.
	I just, I personally believe that Dave Smith.
	I don't know much about Dave Smith.
	I just know about Kellogg Dave Smith.
	Oh, the local car dealership.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I don't know about Dave Smith.
	Like, Dave, like, yeah, he's not a fucking moron.
	We'll just say that.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't like his I agree with everything he believes, but he certainly doesn't need to sit and talk to Steven Crowder about the things he believes.
	Like, this is a useless, pointless debate.
	And I don't know, but this is what happens when you make an open call to people like Candace Owen, Spencer Piero, and Dave Smith.
	Eventually, some of them got to show up, right?
	I guess, yeah.
	Certainly, Dave Smith regrets it at this point.
	I suppose.
	We'll look at him.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Very frustrating.
	I'll invite any of these guys onto my show, please.
	Please.
	It's really funny.
	It's really fun.
	So that was from the October 28th quote-unquote debate.
	It wasn't a debate.
	It was just Stephen kind of interrupting.
	And I thought that was kind of fun.
	Of course it is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So now on to, I guess, the subject of when I decided to – Dave Smith, come on our show, actually.
	Actually.
	Actually, yeah, I'm going to do an open invitation to David Smith.
	You fucking idiot.
	Like, you got to insult them.
	Only losers don't come on our show.
	assault them or something right like uh i'm gonna show up to this debate and i'm gonna call you a big donkey dum-dum because um and i'm calling you out dave Yeah, Dave, are you scared?
	Come on here.
	Are you too scared for this or what?
	Okay.
	Hey, what's the matter, you, Dave?
	Are you a little too scared for the Crowder boys?
	The other Crowder Boys?
	Yeah.
	The other different, like, the different guys that aren't Steven Crowder of whom you've spoken.
	Why don't we actually get the Steven?
	Why don't we get Dave Smith, the car dealer, so we can have louder.
	We have Louder with Crowder with that Dave Smith.
	We have Louder than Crowder with our Dave Smith.
	We got to set it up.
	I did get our second email today.
	What was this one about?
	Well, this is, we get these sometimes.
	Okay.
	This is from Nikki Tyler.
	I shouldn't say their full name.
	Okay.
	Well, this is actually a follow-up from a May 29th email here.
	Oh, okay.
	The first email was, hello, we still haven't received our mug, and we joined almost a year ago when it was a mug club.
	Dang.
	Can you please give me contact info for who to talk to?
	I just keep being told I'm on a list.
	And I hope that they're not talking on a freaking list.
	The list will be released soon, don't worry.
	Sent from my T-Mobile 5G device.
	Heck yeah, dude.
	Keep that stock signature.
	And then today at about noon.
	Noon, I got another email.
	We still never got our mug from last year.
	We wanted to have Rumble Premium again this year, but just don't feel comfortable with that after we never got our last mug.
	Please.
	I was about to pour some Rumble Premium into my Crowder mug.
	And I burnt my dang hand.
	I didn't get to do that.
	It's all over my desk.
	I don't feel comfortable buying that product.
	So we are going to send them a mug.
	I'm going to ask for their address, and we're going to send them a Louder Than Crowder mug.
	A Shrug Club mug.
	Just confuse the hell out of them.
	I think that's a good idea.
	I think that's a great idea.
	Where are they finding the email?
	Yeah.
	Well, they're typing in louderthancrowder at gmail.com, which, of course, is the best way that you could get in touch with us, right?
	Can you search for that?
	I think they're just guessing.
	You think so?
	I'm just doing it wrong.
	I'm going to Google search our email.
	Well, that's probably a good idea, right?
	I hope there's like a deep web forum where they're like, oh, if you just email the CEO, they reply immediately.
	All right.
	So I was on a jog today when I got the notification of Pierce Morgan's latest episode coming out.
	And surprise, surprise, our guy Crowder was on it.
	They are talking about the, it almost felt like a holiday episode.
	It was really odd.
	Maybe I will play the opening from it.
	Benny Johnson talked for like 35 minutes.
	Oh, great.
	I don't think I like this guy.
	I do not like Benny Johnson.
	makes it like he's really tough to listen to yeah he says like what i'm showing you here is that all right some fucked up stuff um I do want to play.
	Oh, do I have this?
	I always worry that these guys are just about to show you some freak shit on there.
	This is actually how Pierce started the show.
	What's going on with my boys?
	Which I think is really fun.
	So, of course, I had to clip that.
	Oh, did you add that reverber or was that natural?
	What's going on with my boys?
	I added it because it's great, Reaver.
	Well, thank you.
	What's going on?
	What's going on with my boys?
	Let's get flat back.
	So here's the intro to the show, but just so you know, I didn't pull a lot of this.
	MAGA versus Migo.
	Let's go.
	Nick Fuentes, of course, should have a platform if he's not breaking the law.
	He's on record saying he loves Hitler.
	What does he mean?
	The bug's a fucking idiot.
	If you're not an anti-Semite, why so much animosity towards Israel?
	We do need to ask what radicalized them.
	Tuck Carlson.
	What's going on with my boys?
	They're click chasers.
	American politicians feel like they have to be the world's daddy.
	And that's not why we elected you, damn it.
	What a loser.
	Oh, wait.
	And then here's the dad.
	Daddy's home meme they're playing here behind him.
	Whoever cut out that rotoscoping on him getting out of the limo.
	Yeah, that was pretty cool to do.
	I like that you put daddy's home.
	What if we did a cutout so it's like he's walking in front of the word home?
	That is cool.
	So Benny does say that they elected Trump to be America's daddy, which is pretty cool that he said that.
	That's so weird.
	He also said.
	What?
	He also said that Barack Obama refuses to, quote, go off into the sunset, which I think is really funny because Donald Trump is like, shouldn't have ran again and then ran again and then won because he stole the election, of course.
	Because he is sunsetting.
	Well, that's the, yeah, riding off into the sunset or riding into a sunsetting fit.
	And then you are just confused and call someone piggy, which again, we were.
	Oh my gosh.
	I've never been more upset in my entire life.
	I know.
	We totally, we caught that.
	We did a live stream last Friday and ended at 2 in the morning.
	And we were just hanging out, being boys, checking out the news like we do because I'm a subscriber to the official White House YouTube account.
	Of course.
	We were one of the first 20,000 people to see that video.
	Yeah.
	And I was like, there's no fucking reason.
	Did he really say piggy?
	There's no way he said piggy.
	We think he said Nikki.
	Yeah.
	Or something.
	Yeah.
	But no.
	So then we could.
	We gave him the benefit of the doubt.
	We should not have given him a bunch of people.
	We will never again do that.
	But we went to bed that night being like, oh, the president didn't call anyone piggy.
	Three whole days later, Monday morning, it breaks.
	The piggy video comes out.
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	Yeah, it's wild.
	It's absolutely wild.
	So now it's like the thing everyone's talking about.
	I know.
	Also, I didn't realize that Obama is 15 years younger than Trump.
	And he's still, yeah, it's kind of an old guy, huh?
	15 years younger.
	Right.
	So yeah, just refuses.
	Refuses to write.
	He's 66, I mean.
	What?
	He's 64.
	Jared's doing math and then taking a nap.
	Yeah, I'm Bounceon.
	I'm doing ping pong with my eyes.
	Are you sleepy?
	I guess it is 10 over there and you had a long day.
	I hope you're okay.
	Yeah, no, I'm good.
	I was doing math.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, he was doing that.
	I was going to Figue State.
	Well, that's good.
	That's what you usually do.
	You're a savant of sorts.
	You're like to Subtracting, subtracting 15 issues.
	Yeah, subtract foot 15 from 80 65.
	Jared, your nose is bleeding.
	All right.
	Madman.
	What do they call him?
	Like Mentech or whatever from Dune?
	You know, the saddest thing is I've never actually seen Dune.
	I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember the name.
	This is kind of cool.
	I like Byron just command effing daddy in this thing.
	American politicians feel like they have to be the world's police, and they feel like they have to be the world's daddy.
	And that's not why we elected you, damn it.
	You know, we elected you to be daddy here to care for your children, which are American.
	And I think that that's how a lot of administrations, Trump's and many others, have gotten sort of derailed and have soured with the American people because they do focus so much abroad.
	And it's like this lack of an ability to focus domestically here on a country that has a ton of problems, like a lot of real problems.
	So daddy issues?
	Is that what we're having here?
	I think we are having daddy issues.
	Benny's got some daddy issues.
	Hey, take it easy on Benny, man.
	Charlie Kirk was his guiding light.
	He was saving him from not only alcoholism, but degeneracy as well.
	You set me up so well, Jared, for the next clip.
	Right.
	What I'm showing you here is that the ideology of the right is insane right now.
	And I love it.
	It is a very, very messy Thanksgiving dinner with our aunts who have all been divorced three times.
	They've been hitting the box of wine and they are ready to battle.
	And it's a lot of fun.
	It's entertaining.
	You can put some of the videos up on WorldStar of the aunts fighting, but we're all still under the same roof.
	We're all still family at the end of the day.
	And this is a coalition that has been created by Charlie Kirk.
	In no small part, he's one of the driving forces of JD Vance and Donald Trump, RFK Jr. and Donald Trump, Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
	This is a world that is wildly different than like a Steve Bannon and Donald Trump.
	Okay.
	So this, this is, I think, probably the grossest thing that I've recognized that the right has leaned into is this like using the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk to almost like armor their beliefs.
	Like anytime you say that this is what Charlie wanted, like they're protecting themselves against if someone pushed back against it.
	Yeah, totally.
	I mean, it's on a smaller scale.
	It would be like if you were like, yeah, well, I believe that gay people shouldn't get married because my grandmother, who just died, said that she thought that.
	And then you're like, well, I'm not going to say that your dead grandma's wrong.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	They're using it as a shield, and it's really gross.
	Well, because, I mean, I don't know.
	I mean, I'm sure at some point Charlie Kirk met all of those people, but I don't think he was the driving force behind RFK becoming the director of health.
	Is that what he is?
	Department of Health?
	Oh, my God.
	RFK doing disturbed is the best.
	Come on, get down with the sickness.
	I got a little worm in my brain.
	If he does that for karaoke, I would actually vote for him, right?
	That's all it takes.
	I think so.
	She just has to sing down with the sickness.
	I'm going to get down with the sickness.
	Oh.
	Cheryl, help me.
	Cheryl.
	It's crazy.
	So, yeah, I just, I thought that this was silly, and I think he continues to talk a bit more about Charles.
	You know, Benny Johnson feels a bit like if making the band was like making the right wing influence.
	You think he's the O-Town of influencers?
	I think he is, man, because he also, he was not on the scene at all, and then he exploded overnight for some reason.
	I don't know.
	He definitely didn't.
	Been on the radar, but maybe he is he's, I think he's he.
	He went from like, he's been there like five figure views, like millions overnight.
	You think yes, he did.
	Yeah I I I, I think like because like like, who was listening to him?
	Like the, the Bongino crowd yeah, like the, you know the dog Killer, and and those types of folks like putting him on the Alligator Alcatraz, like press team basically, I think was kind of his like, oh sure yeah oh, who's this little glasses nerd who's being saved from degeneracy while Charlie Kirk's still alive?
	Uh, I don't like hearing him though.
	I don't like the way he talks or the well they well, they don't have anybody else man they're, they're gonna go to Glenn Beck.
	Yeah, I mean Glenn's kind of in full rebellion at this point when he got rid of two of our boys.
	You know he, they weren't.
	Comedy is dead.
	Listen, you're right, I don't really know what it looks like.
	Alex's new show is still playing up there.
	So oh, is it playing?
	Oh yeah, he's alive right now.
	I saw that Caitlyn Bennett went to a warp tour in Florida.
	Oh no, mattress girl.
	Wait, that's not mattress girl, that's gun girl, gun girl yeah uh yeah, Kent State Doo-doo girl.
	Yeah, the one that shitter pants.
	I forgot about that.
	That was cool right, and that's what you had in the first administration.
	This is a huge party with a lot of competing interests and a lot of people that care uh, about making sure that their agendas get done, and i'm one of them, by the way.
	I have little pet projects that I really want to see done, and Charlie really wanted to see these kind of things done, like like the destruction of the College Cartel and the destruction of Wokeness.
	The point is here peers, is that the reason why it's messy is by design.
	It's good, these are the good these are.
	It's it.
	Iron sharpens iron.
	The scripture says it's important to train and it's important to spar, and it's and it just came from UFC.
	I mean those guys, the fighters, need to have other fighters hit them in the face a couple times.
	Okay, so this is how he's defending the fracturing of the right is saying that they're sparring.
	Listen, everyone's just being stronger.
	Honestly, we're having a scrimmage everyone.
	How will we fight the left if we can't fight each other?
	We're going to the White House and we're figuring this out on the front lawn.
	Yeah, we got to rip shirts off and go into the White House Octagon.
	Yeah they, oh my god, if they change the picture onto the Octagon dude, there's a UFC fight next july at the White House okay okay, i'm just saying that.
	What if they they, you know they already ripped down the East Wing.
	Why, why not add more sides to the pentagon?
	Yeah right, they would do it by making it like uh, an eight.
	They just like, take another pentagon and stick it together, so it's just an eight.
	I guess that would work, but where's?
	But it's also like an infinity, if you think about it.
	Also, it's the infinite octagon.
	We are going to call it the octagon, though I just I mean, I want them to rip down the whole thing, start over, make an octagon and then like, have the Dana White wing, the Anderson Silva wing, put a cage around it and some like uh, finoodles or whatever, like the, you know, like the, The foam around the top.
	Yeah, the crawler.
	They all have to have meetings by sitting up on the edge of the fence looking into the octagon.
	I mean, really, like, if a plane comes at them, they could hop right off that thing, right?
	Duty, of course.
	So this is ridiculous.
	Benny is one of the worst.
	But I thought that, I mean, clearly we're not going to go all through Benny's talk here.
	It's time to talk to our boy.
	Godspeed.
	Well, joining me now is Stephen Crowder, the host of Louder with Crowder.
	Steven, great to have you on our centre.
	I imagine you probably were nodding away certainly for the last bit of that conversation I had with Benny Johnson.
	But there are real issues going on with the conservative right in America.
	And it seems to me the timing of all this is not unconnected to the fact that we're soon to be heading into midterm year, and then after that, into general election mayhem for two more years.
	It is the beginning of the end of Donald Trump as President of the United States, assuming he doesn't try and uproot everything and run for a third term, which I don't think he will.
	And what you might be seeing now is a kind of...
	Uh-oh.
	Did you see the little smirk on Stephen's face?
	You see that now, Pierce.
	I think Stephen thinks that Donald Trump might run again.
	Did you see this?
	What you might be seeing now is a kind of battle for the heart and soul of where the conservative right in America goes post-Trump.
	Now, am I right?
	Am I wrong?
	What's your view?
	Well, thanks for having me.
	I think you're right.
	And I think, look, and I know I just saw the last, the tail end of Benny.
	We all know that we have the First Amendment.
	We all know that we have freedom of speech in the country.
	I don't think that's what we're discussing here.
	Like you said, we're discussing the future of this country.
	And there are some riffs on the right, but I want to be clear.
	There's far more of some civil fracturing on the left than on the right.
	So the through line isn't really just someone's extreme or someone's old guard.
	The through line is clickbait.
	I don't know.
	What are the fractures on the left?
	I mean, it's kind of just Hakeem Jeffries and Schumer versus the new like AOC Mamdani kind of thing.
	That's really it.
	Yeah, and there are going to be fractures on the left of like people who are too far left into like, I guess maybe, yeah, maybe Buddha J is too far right or center, I guess.
	Sure, but they're not as extreme as Marjorie Taylor Greene fully defecting.
	Like that's extreme.
	That would be like if Chuck Schumer all of a sudden was like, you know what?
	Fuck Biden.
	Yeah.
	We're like, Jesus, man.
	I'll see you in the octagon.
	Yeah, it's way more.
	It's way more extreme right now on the right, for sure.
	Well, I mean, he might explain himself.
	It's all just for clickbait, though, right?
	I mean, he's definitely never done clickbait.
	Well, this is him, again, reigniting the...
	He must just not be seeing much growth because he always loves to target his competition, claiming himself to be, you know, the most important out of them.
	Sure, sure.
	Delegitimizing everyone else.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The through line is you have a lot of people who have taken both sides of every issue so that they're kind of on they kind of can't be attacked and your position is indefensible.
	What I would like to focus on is a prescription for people at home where they know how they can filter through people and these commentators out there and maybe people they can trust.
	It's five points.
	I think one, people.
	Uh-oh, he's got numbers.
	He's coming to this again with a fully prepared speech.
	You'll try to get your fingers up with two points.
	Number one.
	About to make a freaking fist, gentlemen, put your knuckles up.
	I wish he had Tim.
	I will bump your knuckles really quick.
	You're down.
	Yeah, I don't know where you're at, dude.
	And again, I think the video version of this is going to be available at shrug.club if anything goes for free if you want to.
	Woke YouTube.
	Woke YouTube, WokeYoutube.com.
	Yeah.
	Or Shrug.
	No, Shrug.club.
	Shrug.club.
	Shrug.club.
	Clips would be available online.
	YouTube.
	I've got the full video.
	You're right.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, you're fine.
	That's fine.
	Please go to Patreon.
	I wish Tim was pushing the buttons here with the bings, but we don't need to ask themselves if we agree the woke left is a threat because this is very important.
	They're still out there.
	They just killed one of our friends.
	And in doing these Change My Minds on campus just two weeks ago at Oklahoma University, had to be escorted in an armed vehicle three times because of threats, close calls.
	He had to be, he had to be.
	He didn't choose to spend all he said.
	There were close calls, three close calls.
	I'm very curious.
	And again, yeah.
	And when I heard that, immediately I was like, do I have to watch all these change my minds?
	And they've put all these gosh darn 10 commandments up all over the place in Oklahoma.
	And Steven can't even walk around there.
	What are they paying for him for then?
	If I can't sit and read all 10 before someone throws a concrete milk shake, yeah, it's quite interesting.
	I am excited to watch those Change My Minds finally.
	So I will get around to it.
	I just, but I do have to say: one, he didn't have to go to these college campuses.
	Two, I imagine he didn't need to spend as much on security and bulletproof vests as he did.
	Yeah, well, and I think clearly nothing happened, right?
	I mean, well, that's like a paradox, right?
	But regardless.
	It's a Schrodinger's sure, sure.
	Okay.
	But I mean, at the end of the day, Steph we talked about this before.
	He seems almost like jealous of what happened to Charlie.
	Of course, of the attention, right?
	And so it's like a soccer flop, you know?
	He's selling it to look more intense than it is with the security.
	Yeah.
	He's selling it to look like he needs the security because he has it all.
	You know what I mean?
	Does he need it?
	I don't know.
	I mean, probably not.
	I mean, maybe in Oklahoma, where the Ten Commandments apparently mean nothing.
	Nothing at all, dude.
	I'm trying to remember the name of the representative or member of Congress that had the table set up of the Change My Mind.
	Ooh, I don't remember who.
	Because I don't want to pass past that, of course.
	Yeah, let's just listen and I'll try to figure it out.
	Okay.
	They're basically on their deathbed, figuratively, figuratively, everyone, just to be clear.
	And instead of finishing it, the right right now is deciding to infight.
	So, number one, people need to look at this commentator, whoever it is, whether it's Ben Shapiro or Nick Fuentes, whether it's someone at Daily Wire or Tucker Carlson, and say, this commentator, this host, what have they done to fight the left?
	We have clear examples with Scott Pressler, with people like Charlie Kirk, people who have actually made a difference.
	What kind of coalition can they build without compromising fundamentals?
	Let me explain to give you a really clear answer: Israel.
	I don't think it's as big of a wedge issue with the half that elects presidents as people think.
	My position said it to Ben Shapiro over a decade ago.
	Defund all sides of that war.
	Okay, we shouldn't be sending money to Israel, nor should we be sending it to Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon.
	Here's the thing: that's a very reasonable position that many Americans hold, and even my Jewish friends have no problem with it.
	Can the people out there, these commentators, build a coalition with that?
	Is point one still done?
	Is this still point one?
	I think it fell apart pretty quick.
	Point two, he says half an hour later.
	So, uh, this was, oh my gosh, I'm glad that we did this.
	Uh, Arizona representative.
	Oh, and I probably have to move some stuff around.
	Uh, um, Yasmin and Sari recreated what is called a classic meme while sitting outside, which is really funny.
	Um, uh, a Democrat who represents Central Phoenix spotted Thursday, and this was back in, was it late October?
	Early November, the band.
	Okay, November is yes.
	Um, Spotted outside the U.S. Capitol with a table outside the office of Mike Johnson, of course, with a handwritten sign that said, Mike Johnson is starving families and gutting health care to cover up the Epstein files.
	Change my mind.
	And that's kind of fun.
	Tagged, there's the sign.
	It's fine.
	It's not stylistically too similar.
	But for those unfamiliar, with internet culture, the setup is an allusion to a widely recognized meme.
	Oh, they did assign it to Steven Crowder.
	The first article I read said it was a Charlie Kirk style debate table.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I absolutely loved it because it made me feel like, yeah.
	Yeah, this particular article does attribute it to Steven Crowder.
	But there were definitely plenty of people online that were like, oh, yeah, Charlie Kirk used to do that.
	And I think it made Stephen Mash.
	Of course it did, because, I mean, one, I mean... That was me.
	I inspired him to do that.
	Yeah, he wants to say that, but he knows that he'll get his ass kicked by Benny Johnson's muscles.
	What if Benny Johnson and Steven Crowder fought?
	That'd be kind of fun, right?
	And the Octagon, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, big time Shock Tagon over here.
	These guys are taking their shirts off and wrestling.
	I would love that.
	And Steven's like, I have a degenerative muscle disorder.
	Please don't hurt me.
	My joints or whatever.
	He's like looking swole when he was putting on that flag jacket.
	Yeah, I mean, he did.
	Yeah.
	He looked like a villain, though.
	Like, it was pretty intense.
	Like Tom McDonald.
	Well, he did kind of look a little like Team McD.
	Yeah.
	Hangover Gang Baby B. All right.
	So back to this.
	If not, they're not actually looking to build a future for the country.
	Let's take H-1B as an example.
	Ben Shapiro out there defending it.
	I cannot imagine how.
	Oh, I was going to say.
	Tom McDonald collaborator.
	Yeah, of course.
	Compound interest.
	Yeah.
	No, listen, there's, I don't, we covered a little bit of the early post, post-October 7th version of Steven Crowder.
	I feel like he was really pro-Israel for like a big portion of last year and the year before, right?
	I don't remember his positions enough in Israel to say.
	Unfortunately, I don't know.
	I feel like we kept avoiding Israel.
	You think so?
	A little bit.
	We did because we aren't knowing what it is.
	Yeah, I think we did because I was like, yeah, I don't feel comfortable talking about foreign policy in the Middle East.
	I don't mean to say avoid, but I just don't think that there was just enough other stuff going on that we just kind of like, the episodes that we were choosing were.
	Dude, dude, Jared.
	I think we heard some stuff here and there.
	If you don't know about stuff, you better take a fucking side, dude.
	Yeah, you have to choose.
	You can't say you don't know.
	That's what losers do.
	Are you a loser?
	I'm in the red, which is the same thing.
	I remember Ed's daddy.
	Deal with it.
	No.
	Saying that, like, my dad was in the IDF.
	What did you say?
	Sorry, I missed that.
	No, Jared's dad was in the IDF.
	My dad was IDF.
	Yeah.
	And like I saying before, I believe on one of these streams that I grew up in like a relatively like years old.
	Yeah.
	I think we talked about that.
	Military boy, military boy, military boy.
	What is that?
	Telepathy boy cover.
	You think anyone would get that reference?
	You don't know Telepathy Boy?
	Yeah, from Pokerama 5.
	A compilation CD I got at Hot Top.
	I think she's called Telepath Boy, I think.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it's such a great song.
	Can we play that right now?
	No.
	How anyone could defend this at this point when 80% of the program is antithetical to the reason of the program because they're being put into junior positions?
	We need to do away with it.
	Can the people, the old guard, can they build a coalition with that?
	And finally, will these people show up to defend their viewpoint in hostile territory?
	I can tell you this.
	I've extended an invitation to Ben Shapiro, to Mark Levinson, to Carlson, to Candace Owens.
	Sorry, I wanted to ding all these really quick.
	He's just going to go ahead and invite everyone onto the show.
	I've extended an invitation to Ben Shapiro, to Mark Levin, to Tucker Carlson, to Candace Owens, to Nick Fuentes.
	And I've heard every kind of response out there.
	I accept those words.
	So I don't know what happened to anyone anytime.
	I would platform Mao if he was alive today.
	Doesn't mean I would agree with him.
	If Xi Xing Ping said, hey, you know what?
	I want to have a chat, I'd make really clear why I line up.
	Sure, we have freedom of speech, but we do have to decide where we want to move forward as a country.
	And if we get rid of Donald Trump, who's very flawed, who's made some missteps, we can talk about that.
	Who are we going to replace him with?
	Wait, wait, very flawed.
	Wasn't he the best president we've ever had since George Washington, I think is what he said?
	Oh, man.
	You know what I would love is?
	I would love somebody to tune in at this point and try and figure out what the fuck Piers asked.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, it didn't matter.
	Like, Steven, no matter what, was going to go in this five points rant.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Stephen, real quick, can you sell somebody on why you're the coolest person for them to listen to?
	Make sure that people know that you are knocking it back down.
	You're not a little baby.
	Well, and you're entitled to all of these very famous people's time.
	Of course.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Certainly, he wouldn't just keep talking about that, though, right?
	No, no, no.
	Because now people are going after JD Vance.
	Do we just want to serve leftist masters?
	Because I will tell you this.
	I'm an extremist on that.
	I think that modern-day leftism is a death cult.
	Okay, so keep that.
	Put a pin in that.
	He is an extremist who believes that the left is a modern-day death cult.
	Well, I'll tell you why.
	It's because we're not hawking them freaking pills, brother.
	We need to sell some foundation for them.
	From the ground up.
	Foundation.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Can we start a band called Modern Day Death Cult?
	Modern Day Death Cult.
	I bet it's already a band.
	That's a great band name, man.
	And if you're serving them by fracturing the right, and they're just going to die.
	And I don't want to do that.
	I don't want to die.
	I think there's still some wins to be had.
	Do you think Marjorie Taylor Green is a traitor, as Donald Trump has told him?
	Today's show.
	So let's skip the ads.
	He's doing a little bit of a clickbait there.
	Yeah.
	So, so far, how are we doing, right?
	Pretty cool.
	Pretty cool.
	Interview so far.
	I like when you sing that song from Punk Arama.
	Jesus Christ.
	I don't want to die.
	Stop doing that.
	I don't want to kill.
	20 years old.
	How old do you want people to know you are?
	I'm younger than Steven.
	What is old is new again when you're 19?
	That's right, dude.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Yeah, we're only 19 years old, dude.
	All right.
	Is she a traitor?
	Well, that's exactly what.
	Which Marjorie Taylor Green am I talking about?
	This is great.
	This is his framing, which is really fun.
	He'll just repeatly ask the question: which one are we talking about?
	And my answer right now off the top is the most current one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think that's the one that matters.
	Yeah, the one that exists in our current moment.
	Yeah, the one who says the most recent thing.
	Are we talking about Green Ranger before he turned white?
	There's a band called Hippie Death Cult, but not Modern Death Cult.
	There's no Modern Death Cult.
	We're going to start.
	Did we both fucking Google that?
	Guys, pay attention to that.
	We show.
	Dude, we're busy.
	We're busy planning Punk Arama 27 together.
	Sure.
	That's kind of cool.
	With modern, wasn't we getting Brit Gerowitz to sign off on this freaking thing?
	It's true.
	Yes.
	We're going to get Tim Rancid on to produce.
	It's going to be big.
	Dude, I'm going to have Feldman, dude.
	Feldman's going to be.
	I'm calling him tonight on the way home.
	Feldman wasn't fat records or epitaph.
	No, no, no.
	He wasn't.
	He's kind of one of those.
	He did like the O-Town style.
	You got to be careful.
	He did do that O-Town style.
	Yeah, be careful, buddy.
	But let's get them all in one room together, bidding war.
	Hell yeah.
	Am I talking to the one who said, you know, we can't deport people because it would hurt my construction company?
	Or am I talking to the Marjorie Taylor?
	And I disagree with that.
	I think that's antithetical to MAGA.
	Am I talking to the Marjorie Taylor Greene who said, we need to do away with H-1Bs, which, by the way, I agree with.
	The only common thread I can see between them is that you're very unlikely to have Indian H-1Bs in your construction company because they're a physically feeble people.
	What?
	Well, so you're saying that Marjorie Taylor Green's a hypocrite?
	No, no, no.
	He's talking about two different Marjorie Taylor Greens.
	Oh, sure.
	We've got Schrödinger's Greens as in collared greens.
	He's talking about the vegetables.
	Marjorie collared greens.
	Yes.
	Like Princess Tomato, basically.
	I mean, I don't love hypocrisy, but I do love it when people learn things because it happens to them.
	Like, you know, Dick Cheney was anti-gay until his daughter became a lesbian, right?
	You know?
	And then he disowned her.
	Then he disowned her and then went to hell.
	So you have to give people opportunities for change.
	Wasn't his funeral yesterday or something?
	Did they like keep that guy out of the ground for like a week?
	Yeah, they kept him warm for a bit.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I heard that Trump and Vance weren't invited, which is really?
	Yeah, they were not invited to the funeral of Dick Cheney, which is good.
	I mean, right?
	Like, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	But they're worried they were going to try to get one of his hearts for their own.
	Yeah, he's got multiple hearts like a worm does, which is kind of cool, right?
	Chambers.
	They leave the old ones.
	He's got several stomachs like a cow.
	Just leave him in.
	Yeah.
	Just disconnected and leave it in there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The body will absorb it.
	I don't think it will.
	The ventricle.
	I think it's kind of a cool thing.
	It does.
	I think so.
	Yeah, well, he's got a lot of power, so you could go in there and eat it.
	And you could gain his power from that.
	And so they wanted to keep them away from that.
	That's kind of the really good thing.
	Ooh, nice.
	He's too evil.
	Protect the power first song by Modern Death.
	I heard Hillary Clinton was doing soul cooking with his podestis, yeah.
	Man, Huma Abedeen, yeah.
	It was where Dick Cheney showed up.
	I heard.
	I heard that Anthony Wiener is back in the crowd, the in crowd, too.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, yeah, and they're eating Dick Cheney heart this weekend.
	Eating Dick Cheney is kind of funny.
	All right.
	All right, all right, all right.
	So, which Marjorie Taylor Green am I talking with?
	Which Tucker Carlson am I talking with?
	Which Ben Shapiro am I talking with?
	The one who said lockdowns are bad?
	Or the one who said that anyone not getting a vaccine.
	You're not talking to any of them.
	Yeah, they aren't talking to you.
	So it's not going to happen.
	Idiot.
	The through line here is not extreme points of view.
	The through line is people pursuing clicks at the cost of the future of this country.
	And I will platform anyone so that I can get, I can't answer these questions as far as their views because I don't know them.
	For example, Nick Fuentes.
	You talked about his interview with Tucker.
	Now, I want to be clear.
	Him saying, I love Stalin, he could have meant I'm fascinated with Stalin.
	Interesting take.
	Okay.
	Nick Fuentes, noted anti-Semite and fan of Hitler.
	Do you think he's just like, I'm interested in Stalin?
	Yeah, I meant his fashion.
	Well, funny you say that.
	There's nothing wrong with that because you know who else is?
	This guy.
	I've been doing a deep dive on Stalin and Trotsky and this sort of infighting that was taking place between them.
	By the way, spoiler alert, I can summarize it.
	Two assholes fighting.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	Wait, that's it, though?
	Just two assholes fighting, not a bunch of horrific beliefs that ended up costing the lives of many innocent people.
	No, it was two assholes.
	Two assholes just, you know, coming together.
	All right.
	That's distilled, man.
	Butt to butt, dude.
	All right.
	Her body going butt to butt.
	Jeez.
	What's wrong with this?
	Quit referencing.
	Stop doing it.
	I love the banned wallpaper.
	We're going to.
	No one knows them.
	Everybody does, dude.
	No.
	Shazam it.
	Start Shazam right now.
	Dude, I'm going to go.
	I bought her going up.
	I'm going to start naming off some weirdo, like, the second record stuff.
	Yeah, dude.
	You guys are crazy.
	I love it.
	Sorry, I'm acting all stupid face, dude.
	Okay, great song.
	Being fascinated.
	And I'm not saying Tucker should follow up because it's despicable, because it's ridiculous.
	Because I'm curious.
	And sometimes I'm wondering where the curiosity goes when you have someone throw down some wolfbait like that.
	Well, you love Stalin?
	What do you mean?
	You mean you're fascinated?
	How he was able to manipulate people?
	You mean all the people that he killed?
	You mean studying him to make sure we avoid it in the future?
	Or do you mean that he had some cool threads and smoked some cool pipes?
	Okay.
	Or maybe he loved his shitty ideas.
	And I don't think proposing alternative, like proposing answers is good journalism.
	Imagine being at a job and you go, you know what?
	I love Hitler.
	And they go, hey, why did you mean that?
	Fall over.
	Is it because you think Hitler is like just kind of like he was a good son?
	Yeah, did you appreciate his economic policy?
	Did you appreciate his unique facial hair?
	Why did you like him?
	It's the freaking like Tim Robinson drive the hot dog into the clothing store, you know?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is what that's like the obfuscating that he's doing.
	He's like, why everyone thinks it's me?
	You know what I mean?
	It's just like, because you're, well, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, you know?
	And part of me thinks that by him saying, like, I also like Stalin or am interested by Stalin is that he wants some of that heat that Nick is getting, right?
	Yeah, he's inviting him onto the show.
	He's kind of fucking...
	He's glazing him by Ron.
	Oh, my God.
	Who said that like a million times?
	Curtis Sewa.
	Sewa kept saying glazin, but I think it was, I think it was Shapiro kept saying glazing too.
	And I'm like, guys, come on, get a new adjective.
	Like, what are we talking about?
	Well, I said an adverb to glaze.
	Too glazing.
	Glazing?
	Yeah.
	Glazing is a verb.
	I think that we're going to have We're going to have another Tim Robinson quote come out from Stephen with the, he's going to say, I thought it was interesting.
	Carl Havoc is going to be when he tries to defend him, defending Nickfoot.
	Stephen, you said you liked Stalin.
	I said he was interesting.
	I don't know the answer because a lot of these people out there, both the old guard Republicans who rightfully people have a problem with them, and this sort of new group of people, they're not actually communicating.
	And they'll say that they'll have these conversations, but in my experience, they very rarely will.
	And I have a track record of wanting to make that happen.
	So again, I extend the invitation.
	And I hope that you do too, Pierce.
	It's just pathetic.
	It really is.
	Stephen is using this to try and get people on the show.
	It's a pitch.
	It's a pitch to get people on the show.
	It's a shark tank.
	Yeah, that's all that it is.
	And, uh, Steven, it's okay to, if someone comes on your show, uh, it's okay to research them and say their stances are too inappropriate for me.
	I do not want to support their message at all.
	That's okay.
	It's okay to do that.
	But at the same time, let me ask you this, Stephen.
	Let's say you had the opportunity to have a convicted sex offender on your show.
	Would you do that?
	Would you softball him too and say, do you just like the way that boys smell?
	You said that you like children, like playing baseball?
	Because baseball's fine.
	Baseball's fine.
	It's fine to play baseball with kids.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	You have Nick on.
	And then send him my way next.
	I actually am moving to inviting him on.
	Because I think there comes a point where you can't ignore somebody's rising influence.
	He is getting talked about so much.
	Yeah, a thousand percent.
	You definitely can.
	You got me crying over here, buddy.
	The only well, he's really popular, so I have to have him on the show.
	I need the ratings.
	Yeah, that's all they're saying.
	Both of these fucking idiots.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So he's going to appear.
	He's like, actually, Stephen, he's coming on my shoe.
	All right.
	That's doing a ringo over there.
	This is kind of fun.
	Steven's doing 11 p.m. Jared face right now.
	Yeah.
	He does.
	Now look at me.
	Oh, same face.
	Same face, dude.
	Sleepy eyes.
	Wow.
	Right now, that he's exuding an influence over people.
	You know, I had the same argument really with someone like Andrew Tate, who I've had on a few times.
	I think it's important when someone has a big, big following and are saying whatever they want to say unchallenged that they come on to somewhere like here where I don't come at things from a partisan political ideology.
	I do want to say really quick, Pierce Morgan's book, Woke is Dead, is available now.
	And he's been talking about it endlessly on his show.
	And he doesn't push back on any sort of MAGA, pro-MAGA stances that any of the guests of his program are on, but he sure does hate woke.
	And he really, really dislikes everyone on the left.
	Of course.
	So as a quote-unquote journalist, I would say that he doesn't push back in less.
	I'm having Nick Fuentes.
	And I challenge everybody, right?
	And I think that's actually a valuable exercise in public discourse.
	We don't live in the old days where people only had mainstream media outlets to do this stuff.
	You know, people online now can have exponentially higher audiences, like Fuentes.
	And as their influence rises, so in my opinion, does the legitimacy of talking to them and finding out what they really believe in?
	No.
	You know, I don't know.
	I mean, I agree with you.
	When he's on record of saying he loves Hitler, what does he mean?
	You guys just did the thing we said you were going to do.
	Yeah.
	Do the Jordan Peterson or what is believed?
	Define belief and Hitler.
	This is so pathetic.
	This is the most pathetic.
	I think it's two cool guys.
	Yeah.
	Like, you can absolutely ignore somebody with influence.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think that's sometimes the best thing you can do.
	Did he ever have Hawktua on a show?
	She loves influence from it.
	Yeah, I think he actually probably did.
	He probably did.
	We should get Hawk Tua, though.
	Is she back in the 60s?
	Yeah, we haven't seen her that much since she crypto scammed and bailed.
	No, she's back.
	She's anti-woke.
	She did a Charlie Kirk, pro-Charlie Kirk thing.
	Oh, did she?
	Yeah.
	You didn't know that?
	No, I know that she had a podcast called Talk Tua.
	Yeah.
	That was kind of what caused her whole downfall.
	Is that she rugged?
	Let me start by saying, I'm sorry, I'm so late to the topic, but I needed to take a few days.
	How many days late was she to the topic?
	A couple, I think.
	I don't know.
	This was the 13th.
	10 days late?
	And I normally don't talk about anything this serious.
	I don't like serious, but it needs to be talked about.
	At the end of the day, I really don't care if you like what I have to say or not.
	Over the last few days, I've saw some of the most outrageous and heinous things that you could possibly see on this app.
	Outrageous.
	I love that.
	I don't really give a shit who I offend when I say this, but for some people to get...
	She has said this five times the same time.
	You're being outrageous.
	Yeah, she's like, it's like she's just trying to get her outrageous.
	Which phrase is, I don't care who I offend.
	How do I say that best?
	I'm going to try all five.
	I'm going to do them all.
	Human being being unaloved in front of his family at that?
	Nope, wasn't there.
	But he's fucking sick.
	You're a sick, fucking individual.
	You didn't have to agree with anything that man said, not a single thing.
	He said preached, practiced anything.
	But you should have a little bit of sympathy for his wife and his kids that were there with him.
	Like and just be respectful, like the man literally just passed away, like two or three days ago, like that's.
	That's no way to fucking be.
	And if you didn't like him, you don't have nothing nice to say.
	Don't say nothing at all.
	Like well, you don't need to say nothing either.
	You uh, spit on the thing.
	Okay, here we go back to the boys though.
	Great, if he genuinely, if he genuinely loves Adolf Hitler the bug's a fucking idiot right, but but if he, but if he's talking about as you put it, as you framed it, about what he may have been intimate, I don't know um, but i'm interested in having that conversation um, in the same way that when I have Tate on.
	I agree with some things Tate says, but I hammer him over his obvious misogyny.
	I think the two.
	You know, someone can be right and wrong about two things.
	Right, even Churchill, my great hero wasn't right about everything.
	If I was his talk, I would find some things to criticize Winston Churchill about, right?
	It doesn't mean to say I think he's a bad guy.
	I think he's an absolute hero, my all-time hero.
	However, everybody is flawed right right, are these guys just like yeah, like just shooting the shit about their interview styles like what are we?
	What are they even talking about?
	This is what Piers is saying.
	Is that he's saying uh yeah, two things could be true at the same time, and sometimes, if you're a sex trafficker, that doesn't actually negate some of the other points that you're making and in fact, actually like i'll, i'll go ahead and amplify those points and not necessarily point to the fact that you know in hindsight that he is a sex trafficking uh person.
	Yeah but but but Steven, this is you know, you have to let these things come to air, but I, but I won't really talk about that.
	He's doing sex trafficking in Germany.
	He's got a great sense of passion with the, the lack of shirts.
	I like that yeah yeah, of course, of course, thinking about doing that myself.
	Well, I don't think you understand this.
	Jared Um Andrew Tate's things he's allegedly right about, i'm gonna say allegedly very sure, for sure yeah um, he's the only person who believes in those things, so it's a must that he's on the show.
	No one else can talk to those points.
	Yeah yeah no yeah, there's not a single other person who could make a really mediocre point with their shirt off and sunglasses.
	Uh cue uh, Red Pill Bill, please.
	What wait?
	Sorry I was.
	I was trying to find all these uh readily available clips of Nick Fuentes praising Hitler, just saying by run that um, we could really have, you know, Red Pill Bill.
	Come on, you know, take his shirt off, which i've heard he's taken the shirt off on on national air before.
	This is not new.
	He puts the sunglasses, Passes on, and he says maybe some positive things about women instead of sex traffic them.
	Wait, Red Pill Bill says good things about women?
	I was unprepared to do that.
	Okay, okay.
	Well, we'll try that.
	We'll try it your way too.
	You switch right.
	Yeah, and plus, if you were interviewing Churchill, he'd probably be drunk.
	And you'd go, oh, well, I guess that's true.
	No one is perfect.
	But I will say, yeah, look, we need to be able to have these conversations, but this litmus, these do matter.
	What have they done to defeat the left?
	What have they done to fight the left?
	Can they build a coalition?
	Something else that I think is pretty important.
	Can these people, whether it's Ben Shapiro, whether it's the people who say they're funded by Qatar, there's other people who say, you're a Zionist shill, no matter what, can they take opinions at face value?
	Can they take a disagreement without resorting to you're paid by Israel?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Face value, like saying that you like Stalin?
	Can you take something at face value?
	That feels good.
	Say it again, Nick.
	Let me soak this.
	Say it like this.
	I like Stalin.
	Now, how does that feel coming out of your mouth?
	How does it feel in my ears?
	Wait, that's wrong Nick.
	Sorry, wrong Nick.
	I don't have Nick saying.
	Sorry.
	One dime from a foreign nation.
	I own everything about this company.
	I've been here since 2009 with a blue bed sheet when there was no money out there.
	If people say you're paid by X, in my experience, those are usually the folks with something to hide, something else too.
	I would call and I would ask you to do this.
	Everyone out there, be transparent with your references, with your sourcing.
	We provide a bibliography every day.
	I know it's a lot more work, but you'll have a lot of people who say...
	Okay, so I don't think we've had...
	Did Finny Johnson take Russia money?
	Any one of the guys?
	Finny Johnson was one of the folks who.
	This whole thing has drove me absolutely crazy.
	What, wait, this whole thing?
	Everything, like, they haven't talked about a thing.
	Like, Stephen is just...
	He's selling himself.
	He's selling himself.
	He didn't even make the fist.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he didn't.
	He started.
	He only had a pointer finger and maybe like another, like, you know, that's nice.
	I just realized.
	So before when you typed in louder than Crowder, it just corrected to louder with Crowder.
	Oh, hey, oh, we beat it?
	Yeah, we're starting to show up, which is kind of nice.
	Nice.
	That is great.
	I was just going to pull up just so people know what the sources look like.
	Since we have this as like a moment where we actually have video at Woke.
	You're going to show his bibliography.
	The hard work he does every day.
	Yeah, the hard work that they do every episode.
	And who is it?
	Who does it?
	Brogden.
	Brogdon.
	Brodig Bogdan.
	Brodigan?
	Not Brogdon.
	I think it's Brodigan.
	So this is the one.
	Oh, dude, look at that cool 3D effect in the middle.
	Wait, he's a coward.
	His new one, he has himself pointing at his head with his finger gun, which is kind of cool.
	But we'll go to this one.
	They love these 3D.
	Is he Manda Hassan's in China?
	I think he's pissed about it.
	Yeah.
	So let's take a peek at what a bibliography looks like.
	Oh, this one actually does have good links.
	But basically, they watch and react, which is what we're doing right now, through the Russian human robot fail, which is very cool.
	They just posted the video of the Russian robot that was struggling to walk.
	Yep.
	Here's Ben Shapiro videos, and then three videos of Hassan here.
	Let's see what the actual sources look like.
	And he likes to pull them from neutral sources, is what he says.
	Hassan Polo.
	Let's see.
	That is a book that Hassan referenced called Unrestricted Warfare, China's Master Plan to Destroy America, maybe.
	Okay.
	I don't think, maybe that's just a book he referenced.
	Wait, what was the, it almost looked like they left the keywords here.
	Unrestricted warfare book.
	Okay.
	How I accidentally became part of China's PR campaign.
	An article from February 5th.
	So there's people from Duke University.
	Okay.
	And then BBC, interesting.
	How trying to lift 100 million people out of poverty, question mark.
	So those are the sources he's pulling.
	I imagine.
	This is surprisingly good.
	Normally, I was going to say, I feel kind of embarrassed that this is the one that we pulled.
	No, here's the thing.
	We're allowed to admit, oh, wow, this is improved.
	Well, we should lie about it and say that the SSC.
	Oh, he's such a fucking water dude.
	Oh, once an Amazon link, and then one is like a legit new source.
	I mean, yeah.
	Well, but this is a lot more than he normally does.
	I completely, yeah.
	Can we look at another poster 360?
	Yeah, we got to do it until is it from recent?
	It's not from 1997.
	Let's go failed hit job here.
	Oh my God, he's actually doing the work.
	I'm proud of him.
	Let's just shut the whole show down.
	Shut it down, dude.
	Shut it down.
	What a good joke.
	We're not going to shut it down.
	What?
	We're not going to shut down the joke or shut down the show.
	That's a joke.
	Wait, what?
	That's a joke that they'd laugh at, I bet.
	Okay, well, good.
	Anyways.
	All right, yeah.
	So fuck us, right?
	Say, I claim this and take my word for it.
	We don't do that.
	So if you put people through this filter and then you have to ask, what's the end game for this country?
	If we want to do away with Donald Trump, because by the way, 600,000 Chinese students, why?
	Uncap H-1Bs, why?
	It's asinine.
	Pam Bondi with the Epstein files, there's a reason that I'm not a fan of hers.
	There's a reason I never covered her conference.
	She's a woman, first of all.
	So we know that information.
	Namely, she's an idiot, but she has no idea what she's doing.
	But what's second?
	Woman?
	These are legitimate grievances.
	But then to go after JD Vance and say we're going to throw away our MAGA hat.
	Here's the thing.
	You can do that online.
	It's not going to be the half of this country that elects presidents.
	These people, though, Pierce, I do need to tell you, people like Nick Fuentes, they have a legitimate grievance.
	There was some gatekeeping going on.
	And I've experienced this too, by the way.
	It wasn't over the Israel thing.
	You have some conservatives who are cozy with big tech where they're fully monetized.
	Their views are permissible.
	And people like Nick Fuentes, they're deplatforming.
	Fuentes.
	Fuentes.
	He's doing his little crowder thing.
	He does a little bit.
	Like when you go to the Mexican restaurant and you have a little bit of flair when you order your meal.
	I think when my dad orders fajitas.
	Fajitas.
	Fajitas.
	Fajitas, please.
	Yeah, it's fajitas.
	It's fajitas.
	This is a taco bell, sir.
	You're allowed to say it normally.
	Oh, it's phagitis, sir.
	We don't have that.
	We have phagitas, though.
	Yeah.
	What was I going to say, though?
	Oh, we're talking about, I think I lost it.
	Fuentes.
	Fuentes.
	I'm at Rumble.
	I obviously would have pull at Rumble.
	I've been there for a long time.
	I have a partner.
	You're a partner at Rumble.
	That's a great thumbnail we got right there.
	They inflate your views.
	He does look cool.
	All right.
	That's just another plug for wokeyoutube.com.
	That's right.
	Shrug.club, where you can watch the full video and look at Steven's silly face rolling his R.
	Yes.
	Have been painstakingly clear.
	Nick Fuentes, of course, should have a platform if he's not breaking the law.
	That's what I was going to say.
	I think he broke the law, right?
	Like, I mean, or no, he actually just broke the terms of service back when, you know, he was in.
	Yeah, it's like when you go to the gym, there's rules you agree to.
	You know, you can't make your grunting noise, but the lunk alarm will go off.
	The lunk alarm will go off.
	Yeah, of course.
	Right?
	You can't fault the lunk alarm.
	You agree to the lunk alarm.
	Okay.
	I'm just seeing.
	What if I squeal up?
	Fuentes.
	Fuentes.
	Now I can't unhear it, and it's going to be in my brain so much.
	So it was July 2021.
	He was banned from Twitter for repeated violations of the platform's rules against hateful conduct.
	Does Steven like private corporate corporations?
	Is that like he's like, he thinks that it should be a public utility?
	Is that it?
	I think so.
	So he thinks that Nick Fuentes, as long as he's not breaking the law, which I argue that sometimes he probably, whether it's incitement or hate speech, those are laws, right?
	I don't know.
	In October 2022, he attempted to return to the platform after Elon took over, but was banned again.
	Oh, wow.
	Which is kind of cool.
	And then January of 2023, his original verified account was briefly reinstated by Twitter, but then it was suspended again within 24 hours after he had posted anti-Semitic content praising Adolf Hitler in a live video on Twitter spaces.
	But I mean, we don't know.
	The thing is, we don't know what he believes.
	Yeah, I've never seen him kiss Hitler.
	Yeah.
	I've seen it with the AI thing.
	We never seen it.
	Yeah, I downloaded an Afro-I uploaded two pictures of Donald.
	I love that that was one of the first uses of AI video.
	It was like, let's see what they're doing.
	I'm going to prank my dad.
	Oh, no.
	Look who Mom was kidnapped.
	I want to prank my very homophobic dad.
	Yeah, right.
	That I found this picture of you and Steven Crowder kissing.
	That's crazy.
	So then May of 2024, Elon Musk announced.
	How do you find this?
	He shoots it with a gun.
	Shoots the phone with a gun.
	May 2024.
	How did you know about this?
	May 2024, Elon Musk announced the official reinstatement of Fuentes' account.
	What?
	Fuent Fuentes.
	You had to stick your tongue out a little bit.
	Fuentes.
	It's like saying, I bet.
	Yeah, it is kind of Ibiza.
	He's back on X, and Musk said that while he may disagree, while I may disagree, I can't do it.
	And I wish I could share it with Jared.
	I'm sorry.
	Because we know a guy, of course.
	We know a guy who has a tool.
	A guy with a tool who could hack for us.
	Flipper Zero.
	Yeah.
	You call.
	No.
	Okay, that was not it.
	It's too late for you.
	So Musk said that while he may disagree with what Nick has said, he cannot claim to be a defender of free speech if he permanently bans someone who hasn't violated the law.
	And yeah, as of now, of course, Nick Fuentes is Fuentes, is on X and has over 1 million followers.
	1 million followers.
	1 million followers.
	I was doing Dr. Evil.
	I'm doing Dr. Fuentes.
	Dr. Fuentes.
	Who is inherently evil?
	$1 million.
	Yeah.
	Dr. Fuentes.
	That's kind of a fun character.
	I don't know if it's racist.
	I don't know.
	I'm Mexican.
	That is true.
	I forgot you are.
	So you can give us the pass, of course.
	Dude, I got us covered.
	It's so many weird places.
	Totally find what I'm doing, and no one should have any issues with what I am doing.
	Yeah, as long as we, I mean, you can just.
	I've got proof.
	It's called 23andMe, right?
	Yeah, and you trust the Mormons.
	Are we going to post our 23andMe like breakdowns and then like the accents that you do?
	Comedy and comedy breakdown.
	Very British.
	Very British.
	The one thing got taken away from Donald Trump and remember his release is taxes thing is you never released taxes.
	You never released Titanic.
	Just like we're never going to officially release it.
	Never let him know your next move.
	We can't release Jared 23andMe.
	That way he can keep getting away with a loose one.
	True, dude.
	Like we could get a couple extras out there.
	So here's to Jared.
	Ambiguous.
	It's fine.
	That's the difference between some of the old school conservatives who say free speech, but behind the scenes, they gladhan a little bit.
	And if these people are radical, and I don't know that they are, that's why I'd like to have a conversation with them.
	We do need to ask what radicalized them.
	That's a valid, if we believe it, they're radical.
	But I think...
	God damn it.
	I'm sorry.
	You don't need to do that.
	Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Timothy McVeigh, what radicalized you?
	Oh, the Turner diaries?
	Hmm.
	Let's talk about the Turner diaries in front of all of us.
	Let's get a copy for every American child.
	Put it in.
	Let's take out that book that shows the blowjobs.
	Put it in Turner.
	Turn our diaries because they need to.
	Turn our diaries.
	Everyone needs to know where people are radicalized so they can choose to be radical, right?
	Of course.
	Yeah, if they think that they should be radical.
	They don't want to get with them.
	They should be radical, Cowabunga, dude.
	Dude, Cowabunga, bro.
	Jesus.
	I think they have some.
	I'm so cheer that you'd say, eh, I don't know about that.
	That makes me question you a little bit.
	I just think he's this is just the cool childhood.
	Some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
	Of course.
	I mean, why doesn't Stephen have a bunch of criminals on, you know, what the skateboards in an underground lair?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Back to that.
	Half-shells.
	Turtle power, dude.
	But I think they have some legitimate grievances.
	And you have one side saying, these people are despicable.
	These people are offensive.
	Those are victim bitch words.
	Don't use those words.
	And then you have people trolling saying, I love Stalin.
	I don't think that anyone who's right-wing or conservative loves Stalin, but I'd like to follow up.
	I think it's interesting.
	Maybe like the Nazis, though, right?
	Did you just do a crowder call of it?
	Did I?
	I've seen this already.
	Dennis said he was a little bit of a data.
	I thought it was.
	I think it's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Carl Havoc, dude.
	Dennis just called him.
	Yeah, dude.
	Give me that Zoltar clip or whatever.
	I don't have it saved, but I should.
	Clearly, clearly.
	Very interesting.
	I don't have anything.
	Beautiful ever.
	I'm really sorry I have this, though.
	As soon as I'm ready, I'll come on you first.
	Yeah, that's it, though.
	All right.
	Yeah, what a nightmare this is.
	Stephen, why didn't he have the shooters in these mass shooters come on his show?
	That's a great point.
	Why didn't he write them and ask them and read their letters?
	He wrote them and said, Hey, I know that you killed a bunch of people.
	No judgment.
	No judgment.
	I just want to understand.
	What made you radical?
	Was it the left libtarts?
	Curious.
	No.
	I'm interested.
	We're outside the prison cell of a James Holmes.
	James, when did you graduate from Joker Gooner?
	What year were you, Joker?
	Into a single and an acting, an acting man by yourself.
	That's a great question.
	You're asking all the right questions, Stephen.
	I'm glad that you're doing this.
	Everyone deserves a platform.
	That's Stephen's idea.
	Can we write him and be on his show?
	So everyone deserves a platform if it's my platform and they're bigger than of course, of course.
	Please come on my show.
	You know, I agree with a lot of what you just said.
	Is Donald Trump betraying his campaign promise to make America great in the way he said he would?
	I mean, Marjorie Telly Green ticked off a number of things.
	You've had some issues yourself, clearly.
	Is he betraying MAGA?
	Do you think?
	What do you think?
	Do you think Stephen thinks that Donald Trump is betraying MAGA?
	No.
	Of course, that's the political ideology of Ronald Reagan, who came up with Make America Great Again.
	I just want people to remember that.
	This is new, not a new thing.
	The Gipper.
	Yes.
	All right.
	He was the gipper and his wife was the gripper, if you know what I mean.
	Oh, no.
	Jelly Bean.
	Don't know, but I'm willing to ask.
	And he's welcome on the show anytime.
	Ronald Reagan.
	Live from hell.
	Well, I don't think he's betraying me.
	I think he's made some missteps, and I wonder who's in his ear.
	Again, which Marjorie Taylor Green am I dealing with?
	Tucker Carlson.
	Well, which Tucker am I talking to?
	Am I talking to Crossfire Bowtie Libertarian Legalized Manager?
	Is he doing?
	Is he playing fucking Ouija board?
	What is happening?
	I don't know.
	This is the dumbest, dumbest, like damn.
	He guy's fucking stupid.
	Which peers are you talking to, Stephen?
	Are you talking to this peers or the one that yelled at Alex Jones?
	I can't tell.
	He's just so scared.
	He thinks that there's multiple people for real.
	Who is it?
	There's a lot of spirits in the room.
	I'm not moving the pedal.
	I'm not doing it.
	Gerald's moving it.
	Josh is moving it.
	They say they're not.
	Nick's not.
	Nick's, I don't know what he's doing.
	Nick's scared out of his mind.
	Nick shot the board.
	Fucking Detective Carlson, who dresses like Curious George, goes fly fishing, Mr. Populist.
	I don't know.
	These people have taken both sides on every issue.
	I do think that the Chinese exchange student or not exchange student, students, 600,000, that's a mistake.
	H-1Bs, I don't want to see a bunch of people replacing Americans at low wages, certainly not when the bulk of them are coming from India, because I don't want us to look like India number two.
	And I think the problem that we've seen too is you have one side who've said that race has nothing to do with it.
	And then you have people saying race has everything to do with it.
	These people are wrong.
	Race and culture and the country, especially when you're dealing with a country of origin, when you're dealing with third world slave wage labor, it is relevant.
	It's a conversation that needs to be had.
	And when you silence it, you pique that curiosity gap.
	I think Trump is wrong on that.
	I also, again, my issue.
	We're just going to let him be racist for about two minutes.
	No, good point.
	Good point.
	And then when he notes Piers isn't nodding along, he's like, well, let me go after Trump again.
	Going back to that then.
	I don't want it to look like India 2 over here.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I care about India.
	India's fine.
	I love India.
	I love it.
	Actually, he doesn't.
	We've heard him explicitly say he doesn't like India.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	Golden cow and all this.
	Yeah, we skipped over an episode where he's talking about.
	Well, I think we actually did record that episode.
	He just didn't cover that segment, that poop throwing festival that he was pissed about.
	There was a lot of people who are pissed off about it now.
	We're all in on Elon.
	I always said Elon has done some great stuff, buying Twitter, turning it to X. That's great.
	He's always had the policy of uncapping H-1Bs.
	That's not America first.
	I'm just wondering why it's an issue now and with Marjorie Taylor Greene when only a week ago she was saying, we can't deport people because of my construction company.
	Which one am I talking to?
	That does matter.
	People can change their minds, but going back and forth in the span of a week and then refusing to have the conversations with people who will legitimately test them.
	That's always concerning to me.
	And like I've said, the invitation has been extended to everyone.
	So far, no takers.
	I'm basic bitch pumpkin spice latte conservative.
	Real.
	Wait, wait, which Steven Crowder are you?
	The one that just a few minutes ago said you were an extremist or you basic bitch pumpkin spice conservative.
	Which one, Steven?
	Oh, Steven.
	Weird.
	Curious.
	This is what he does when he says shit that's too fucked up.
	I mean, this is a Trump tactic.
	It's just say what you want the truth to be and it will set you free.
	Yeah, the classic people are saying, you know.
	Oh, God.
	People are saying that I'm the best president.
	Yeah.
	That was the best.
	But also, this question was about Trump exclusively.
	Yeah, asking if Trump is abandoning MAGA.
	Yeah.
	And then he brought up Marjorie again.
	Of course.
	Which, I mean, I don't know.
	I actually, I'm unfamiliar with the clip they're talking about where Marjorie was defending the fact that she needed Undocumented.
	I have no idea.
	That sounds like a private, like just conservative infighting group chat.
	Well, I think a lot of the people were upset when, like, I think Trump originally promised that he was getting rid of dangerous undocumented immigrants.
	And then they came for farm workers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they came for farmers, and then he made kind of the outward exceptions for employees at hotels and farms, which, I mean, fuck.
	Yeah.
	Like, I'm too little, too lame.
	I agree.
	Like, when you run on it and stir up this, like, constant hate for undocumented immigrants that he calls like they're all murderers is kind of if you say they're all murderers, then you kind of get this weird free pass to just do whatever you want, regardless, right?
	Like, it's just sick.
	And I mean, I don't know what Marjorie truly thinks.
	Like, I really don't know either.
	I definitely don't forgive her for the shit she's done.
	Clearly.
	I just, you know what?
	Cool.
	They're fighting.
	Yeah, which one?
	And which one?
	Are they fighting each other or future in past versions?
	I love working.
	You know, the meme of like the guy who's like taking a hit from the bong while two people are fighting.
	Nope.
	Don't know the memes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Jared knows it.
	That's us right now.
	We're just watching Steven and Marjorie Taylor Green fight.
	I think it's like a lady fight, too, if I'm not wrong.
	I think it is.
	Yeah.
	Some guy's like hitting a bong by some girls fighting and it's like action-packed and he's there.
	He's just there with the bong.
	Yeah, he's just there really enjoying his you know, you know when that guy broke his leg and he goes, I'm chill as fuck right now.
	That was the guy.
	I'm chill.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, I see.
	I see this.
	Yeah, this is just us, dude.
	That's us.
	I mean, this seems dabbing dude meme is pure uncut Schottenfreud.
	Interesting.
	I want to be the 1% guy real quick.
	You can't actually legally do that.
	You're going to just use your nebula as well.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	It's not that extreme.
	Who is the next standard bearer for the Republican Party, do you think, in America?
	Is it you or is it Benny Johnson?
	Or is it Nick Fuentes?
	Fuentes.
	I think he's talking about who's going to be president next, but I'm not really sure.
	Who do you think Stephen wants to be president?
	Well, it's here.
	I think he says it.
	Okay.
	But obviously, the natural sequence would be JD Vance.
	And I think he's been very impressive as a.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Is that the natural sequence?
	We know it's Eric.
	Doing what?
	Don Jr., Don Jr., Baron, Baron, Baron, of course.
	Yeah, yeah, dude.
	I see Melania when they rewrite the Constitution.
	The whole thing around, like, well, the vice president doesn't do anything, and like, she's a DEI hire, and, you know, all this shit.
	It's like, what, what then has JD Vance done?
	He hasn't done anything.
	He hasn't done anything at all.
	He did.
	Well, I think he's done a great job.
	Well, yeah, great job of, I guess, getting off of fentanyl.
	I don't know, right?
	It wasn't.
	I mean, his fucking mom sold him down the river for fucking four Percocet 20s.
	Yeah, I think, I mean, he dressed up an IG version of himself for Halloween.
	He does that.
	He does that kind of stuff.
	Oh, dude, JD was on Halloween this year, bro.
	Like, he took the real piss out of the fucking laugh.
	And it's like, no, he still looks like a fucking garbage pail kid.
	Like, there's not, that's the joke.
	It's not, it's not that he can't really take the power from it because it's like, the joke is that you look like a fucking, like a trash baby, my man.
	And the joke is that you are a trash baby.
	Your mom sold you for fucking perks, dude.
	Yeah.
	That's the joke.
	That's why you look like that.
	If you didn't know, you lived it.
	Too close to the truth, though.
	He lived it, and I lived it.
	Ooh, he lived it, dude.
	All right.
	Late.
	I think you still have people like DeSantis waiting in the wings.
	You know, Charles Krauthammer, when I was at Fox News, he was there.
	And I've always said of Charles Krauthammer, one of the most.
	That's what he's pushing it.
	You've seen that guy, right?
	No.
	Look at that.
	That guy is the most villain-looking man I've ever heard in my seen in my entire life.
	No man looks more like a villain than Krauthammer.
	Sorry, there's the nebulizer warming up over there.
	Gosh, yeah.
	I'm taking, I'm a damn rocket over here.
	As part of my trebuchet bonus that I took from SpaceX.
	Oh, sure.
	One singular rocket power drive here, and I just turned it on.
	I think Krauthammer, he could be president, right?
	He's got kind of a Gerald Ford.
	You need to get a different portfolio for this.
	What is that guy?
	No, that's fine.
	Listen, that is the nicest looking picture I've ever seen of any.
	Look at all of them.
	They look fine.
	That's him.
	Sorry.
	Who the fuck is that?
	This right here.
	That's the one I know.
	That's the guy I know.
	All right.
	That is the villain I know.
	Who are these?
	Who's Krauthammer?
	Yeah, well, I mean, he looks like a head wearing the body.
	Let's even talk about it.
	Okay.
	Political outmind news.
	He was there.
	And I've always said of Charles Krauthammer, one of the most brilliant political outminds of our time.
	If he was only right 50% of the time, me on the couch with a bag of potato chips don't really have a shot.
	But I think anyone who places the needs of Americans first, and that doesn't mean, by the way, that we have to follow lockstep, but I do think Israel is a legitimate issue where people have legitimate grievances.
	I don't think that Israel's security is tied to that of the United States.
	That being said, we should defund all of it, right?
	And people in the comments, let me know if this is reasonable.
	Defund all of it.
	He's talking to you.
	You're on TV, dude.
	Well, no, Morgan's crowd.
	You don't get to act like this is your show.
	Hey, guys, what's up?
	Like and subscribe.
	Wait.
	Oh, shit.
	Sorry, not my show.
	Whoops.
	No problem if the IDF gave every member of Hamas a dynamite suppository.
	Because I believe that Islam, radical Islam, is a far greater threat to the West and Christian civilization than Israel.
	Doesn't mean that either one of them are perfect.
	The fuck you're talking about?
	I think people like JD Vance, people who've made it clear.
	We're talking about who's being president?
	Who's the next pick for president?
	They'll place the needs in the want to get married.
	Big baby president.
	Like Boss Baby, dude.
	No.
	Yeah, like Boss Baby, but it's different.
	It's big baby boss.
	I'm sorry, big baby president.
	What did I say the first time?
	I'm not sure.
	People first.
	I think anyone who is in that vein probably has a shot.
	And as a matter of fact, I don't even think it's an option anymore.
	I don't even think it's an option for someone like a Jeb Bush or someone saying, you know what, we really, really need to be strong allies with Israel.
	I just think that's kind of out the window, and that's not anti-Semitic.
	I think it's a legitimate conversation that needed to be had, and I'm okay with it.
	I just would like to have it with everybody.
	Why?
	Why does it matter?
	I mean, like...
	Oh, I'm fine with that.
	There we go.
	Sorry.
	Like, I don't know.
	Nick Fuente.
	He has such a grasp.
	He has an audience, right?
	But it's like, these are like not, I don't want to say necessarily like politically incoherent.
	I think to a lot of people, it would be politically incoherent.
	But it's like kind of their own, you know, pick and choose sort of things.
	And like there's probably like some amount of like edge lording to being like, yeah, I love Hitler or whatever.
	But like, villains, because it's fun to be villains.
	Yeah, it's fun to be a villain.
	It's fun to be a bad guy.
	Want to do bad guy stuff.
	I want to do hood rat shit with my friends.
	My friends.
	Yes.
	Right.
	I know that meme.
	That's right.
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	What the hell?
	Yeah.
	That's the Letarian Milton.
	I don't know who that is.
	That's the kid.
	That's his name.
	Yeah, Letarian Milton.
	he stole he stole his grandmama's SUV and then drove it through a freaking Walmart few his age have ever driven an SUV up and down several busy streets it all started at his mother's townhouse Letarian says he took the car keys and hopped into his grandmother's dock Durango.
	When I came through the back door, I looked on the counter, my keys were gone.
	I took my grandmother because I got mad at my mom, and then I suddenly had my friend come in, and he smoked with cigarettes.
	He started the vehicle and put it into gear.
	I yanked the, I yanked it.
	I yanked the thing.
	And off they went.
	Two seven-year-olds alone on the road.
	Letarian drove several miles through Lake Park and Palm Beach Gardens.
	We got the one call that I told you about of the driver in the vehicle who looked too short to be able to see the steering wheel.
	Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two parked cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two moving cars near Walmart.
	I want to do a cut fun, funny, do bad things.
	Drive into a car.
	So did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody?
	Yes, but I wanted to do hood stuff for my friend.
	Get all that.
	All right.
	So guy's the coolest, right?
	Letarian, I think, is in jail right now.
	Yeah, clearly.
	He was seven, 17 years ago, dude.
	Yeah.
	That dude's 24.
	I saw that he got arrested not that long ago.
	Oh, man.
	So just so you know, Pierce has had no pushback to anything Steven has said either.
	No, of course not.
	I mean, he has a good answer so far for who should be the next vice president.
	Yeah, he definitely got the answer he asked as a journalist.
	He don't know.
	Chester Cheetos.
	So follow-up.
	Yeah, Chester Cheeto is going to be president.
	And right now, so I've been trying to workshop a tweet.
	Co-vice president.
	Okay.
	You know how because of, I guess, influenced by RFK, the Doritos and Cheetos are doing simply or naked.
	That's what it is.
	Yeah, we talked a little bit about this.
	On double salutes.
	I was thinking that maybe Donald Trump had that done so they can no longer call him Cheeto in chief because of the color of his skin.
	That's the whole point.
	He says I'll just change the color of Cheetos.
	Yeah, I think, and I was like, I'm just like in my head, I'm like, how do I formulate this perfectly?
	I don't think I can.
	The Cheetos are no longer orange.
	You got to stop calling me President Cheeto.
	Something like that.
	But I think that there's something there.
	There definitely is.
	Keep thinking on it.
	It'll come to me.
	I'll send it to you.
	Okay.
	Or it's like Trump's advocating for naked Cheeto, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then really, it's like the last thing people want to see is Trump naked.
	Very funny as well.
	Where's Byron?
	Are you here?
	Oh, no.
	Hi, Byron.
	Are you mad?
	Should I be scared?
	Am I scared?
	I'm scared.
	You're talking about me naked.
	Good.
	Good.
	All right.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	I was having this conversation with Benny earlier.
	The idea if you criticize a country's government, somehow that means you hate that country's people is such a facile argument.
	All right.
	That's the argument that Benny had that I thought was really interesting that I forgot to bring up.
	He said that just because you disagree with the government doesn't mean the people who disagree with it are evil.
	Which I think is really funny because what was it?
	We just had the No Kings protest, which they called the anti-American protest.
	I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	Of course, yeah, because, I mean, at the end of the day, like, if there's people on the left who say, I think we need a better America, we need to improve America.
	You're anti-American.
	Of course, you are.
	His fucking slogan is Make America Great Again, right?
	It was we needed to improve America.
	Because it was bad.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But now they're saying that just because you disagree with Donald Trump doesn't mean that America is bad.
	Yeah, but if we have to like make it work again, like even if you're like working backwards, doesn't that mean that you don't like it and you want to change it?
	So if you want to change it, you should get the fuck out of here.
	Honestly, leave my country.
	Leave.
	Leave.
	It's free to leave.
	But also, it's kind of like I get what they're saying, and I empathize with the general idea that you can feel a certain way about a country and not about individual people, right?
	Sure.
	But if my house burned down, I think I could safely say there's a fire hazard.
	You know, like there was a problem that led me here.
	And I'm not saying anything about Israel.
	I'm saying this about America.
	Yeah.
	Speaking of, did you guys check your puffy batteries?
	Dude.
	I don't have any puffy batteries.
	I check them all the time.
	Anytime I see a puffy battery, I get it out quick.
	Wait, why?
	Did something light on fire?
	We talked about it.
	We talked about this the other night.
	spicy pillows dude we need to check our yeah we got to check the spicy pillows in our houses Yeah, if you go to the celebrated spicy pillows, dude, you'll see lots of pictures of them.
	Listen, I just don't know what the internet does these days, but of the last few years on your show.
	Yeah.
	Criticizing Joe Biden and the Democrat Party.
	And I believe that they deserved a enormous amount of criticism.
	I personally believe that Joe Biden was the worst president of my lifetime and will go down in history as somebody who was so severely destructive to our land and our nation.
	So I'm criticizing Joe Biden and the way he's running the government.
	Does that mean I hate Americans?
	Right.
	What an insane thing to say.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So because he wanted to change it, so you should have left.
	Wait, wait, wait, though.
	But he was.
	Yeah, he's not criticizing Americans.
	But in the face of the, again, no kings protest where the government is being criticized.
	They were also criticizing anyone who was criticizing that.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's silly.
	I just want to make sure that everyone knows this is, this is the, this is, this is the kind of stuff that he does to try to whitewash his beliefs, but on his ex or whatever they'll they'll just call for, they'll say that this is insurrection, like people protesting and having a sign that says, like Trump is a bitch or something is, is gonna go to jail.
	Yeah well, it's kind of like um, how you know, if you tell soldiers that they shouldn't, uh, obey illegal orders, that's that the president will tell you that you need to be put to death.
	Put to death seditious uh, mindset.
	Yeah, that's the name of our album.
	Yeah yeah well uh, Protect THE Power.
	Yeah, is Modern, Modern DAY Death Cult's first album.
	We've criticized the Uk government.
	You've disagreed with me, you said this and that, and then the and the mayor of London and all this stuff and the horrible things that are happening in the Uk.
	Does that mean I hate the British people?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Like, of course not actually.
	Like no, you're invited to cook out anytime peers, anytime.
	Well, I oppose.
	You know, when I was a new Jolly OLD ELF.
	Well, when I was well Benny, when I was a new.
	Let me keep going.
	Let me keep going.
	Yeah, he wasn't cooking at all by no, not at all.
	Benny was not doing a very good.
	Why does he just say, like you're welcome to the cookout, like that's it, that's like a that has nothing to do with these, like two white men?
	No yep, that's a really bizarre thing.
	I fully.
	I thought the same thing.
	Yeah yeah yeah yeah weird, you know, it's not.
	It's not Anti-semitic to think a lot of what the Israeli government's been doing in the last year, especially um, has been uh, misguided and probably self-harming and made life more difficult for Jewish people around the world, actually is what I think about what's happened.
	It doesn't mean I don't support Israel's right to defend itself from terrorists.
	I did and continue to support that right.
	It's how you do that is open to legitimate.
	Exactly the same way, I had the problem with my government and the American government over Iraq back in 2003.
	I was not satisfied that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction or had anything to do with 9-11.
	A lot of people felt he was made the scapegoat for what happened there.
	Doesn't mean he wasn't a bad guy.
	He was a bad guy.
	But it had nothing to do with 9-11.
	And that war, in my view, should never have happened.
	And the damage.
	And he's welcome on the show anytime.
	I'd love to have him on the show, of course.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Let's get Osama bin Laden on the show.
	He's so cool, dude.
	Well, he said that to American.
	What is death?
	You know, like.
	What even is death, dude?
	So interesting.
	Yeah.
	Was consequential afterwards.
	But again, the idea that I could oppose my government doing that and hate the British people, ridiculous.
	Or hate the American people because of something the American government's done under any administration.
	It is such a facile argument.
	And yet it's being used quite deliberately by many on the pro-Israeli.
	Wait, didn't Stephen just say that the left is the enemy?
	You said that a million times over.
	I said that?
	He has.
	Oh, I thought I said that.
	You said that.
	You said we're the enemy.
	Wait a second.
	To silence legitimate debate.
	Right.
	No, I figure.
	I'd also find it funny that you said you were not satisfied with the war in Iraq, like you got a lukewarm DoorDash order.
	I think it's quite a bit worse than that.
	By the way, I just got a rock in my pad thai last night, a rock with my Uber Eats.
	So just look for those.
	That actually happened.
	I chipped a tooth.
	There's not even.
	Thanks, AI.
	There's not even a box to check for that.
	But no, I agree with you.
	And I would say this.
	It's controversial.
	I don't know, man.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	So, Stephen, how do you feel about the pro-anti-Israel?
	I ate pad tie and got a chip on my tooth.
	It was a rock.
	No, it wasn't.
	There was not a rock in your pad thai.
	Well, dude, it was a concrete milkshake.
	It could have been a bone.
	Well, he was eating a concrete milkshake.
	Does someone like Stephen order food under his own name?
	No.
	No way, right?
	No.
	No way.
	It's just potatoes.
	Just a bag of potatoes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Steamy Yukon golds.
	Is that the secret?
	I'll eat them.
	He's just pissed.
	All right.
	What?
	Is that the ticket we use to get in touch with Steven in real life?
	Would be what?
	Food?
	Just start DoorDashing where he's at.
	We could dash around the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
	Do it afterwards.
	Just pick up as many orders.
	Pad Thai.
	I got to see.
	Yeah, yeah, just.
	It's T-Y-Y-D.
	I like it.
	Welcome to the chat.
	Deep state sending this clown rocks.
	That's the boy Silves right there.
	Oh, welcome.
	Position.
	The reason that it can't work is because there's no reasoning with most of these people.
	And by these people, I mean Islamists.
	Once Muslims reach a majority of a country where they get control of the government, we see it revert to something horrible as far as human rights.
	Keep in mind there are about 200 million Muslims on Earth right now, according to Pew Research, who believe that violence is often or at least somewhat acceptable against apostates, against infidels.
	So for people to not...
	Wait, wait.
	What was the Crusades about?
	I forgot about it.
	I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
	I mean, I think, isn't it?
	I feel like I remember somebody talking about righteous violence recently.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	What was it?
	They said something like they encouraged immediate defensive violence.
	I mean, that's a little different, but he didn't mean it different.
	No, of course he didn't.
	Acknowledge that means that it'll dictate your approach to international policy.
	And I still believe that Islamic encroachment and their prescription is a threat to the West.
	All of these are legitimate conversations.
	Now, I also know this.
	There are also behind-the-scenes targeted harassment campaigns that go on.
	That's probably why you were afraid to have Nick Fuentes.
	Or not afraid, hesitant to have Nick Fuentes on the other side.
	Oh, no, I don't care about that at all.
	Okay.
	No.
	Well, people get doxed.
	People get swatted.
	And that's not Nick's fault.
	That's the fault of the audience.
	And I can tell you this.
	He would send the Groyper Army out long time ago.
	There we go.
	Pursue Charlie Kirk to pursue Ben Shapiro and dictate the QA session.
	Interesting.
	He does not at this point return to the idea that he is equivalent to the harassment, like that he also received harassment from the Gropers.
	Did he?
	He backtracks on it, which is kind of interesting.
	He doesn't bring it up.
	He says, Did he get that, though?
	I don't know.
	Oh, no, Heath.
	He claimed to have been harassed.
	Oh, Nick Fuentes.
	He said, Grapers aren't my comedy.
	Nick Fuentes.
	Okay.
	He said, There's the Grayporpors at my comedy show, is what he said.
	And I think he took that back, which is really interesting.
	I've been looking for the opportunity to play this clip, and which, oh, fuck, I lost it, but I'll find it again.
	Damn it.
	I'm bad at notes.
	And make it all about the Jews.
	So people felt like he wasn't acting in good faith.
	But if he was genuinely pushed to the corner by people like Ben Shapiro and folks at the Daily Wire saying, YouTube, you have to deplatform this guy.
	He has a legitimate grievance, and you're going to radicalize that person.
	Here's where we are now.
	Do we have these conversations?
	Do we acknowledge that the left is out there, that they just killed one of our friends and they would kill any one of us if given the chance?
	And that doesn't mean everyone votes Democrat.
	That means those in charge of the leftist coalition.
	Whoa, hold tight.
	Okay.
	Are he in charge of the leftist coalition?
	What is the leftist coalition?
	Yeah, I'm a group of well-trained assassins, clearly.
	I'm an anti-Christmas.
	He's the ring leader, dude.
	I'm out here.
	I'm doing the meetings.
	I'm calling him.
	I'm at your local library.
	I'm setting things up.
	Dude, you're the chapter leader, bro.
	Yeah, you're setting this up.
	And here's how you can tell any of those rifle.
	What we're wearing when we're out there is these like carpenter jeans.
	You've seen these with like the little hammer pocket on it.
	Hammer hook, dude.
	Yeah, yeah, because we're carrying the hammer and the hammer hook.
	And then we're disguised as sorry.
	I didn't mean to be loud there.
	I was hoping you would finish your sentence.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm just saying we're disguised as union workers or construction sites, and we're just waiting for Steven Crowder to walk in front of one of us.
	And they dog call him by beating the right by knockout gaming him.
	Right?
	Okay.
	With the hammer, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So this, I remember this when this came out five years ago.
	And of course, I don't want anything awful to happen to Steven Crowder.
	I want to make that shirt really clear.
	Five years ago, Andy No, one of our favorite journalists, also a milkshake fan.
	This guy's a concrete milkshake.
	No one gets Freddy's concretes as often as Stephen Crowder and Andy No.
	Of course, yes.
	Milkshakes or is that Freddy's?
	Well, Freddy's has concretes, of course.
	Shakes are concrete.
	What's better?
	I'm a concrete guy.
	Really?
	Are you a lizard boy?
	I like it when they flip him upside down.
	I say, do it again.
	I say, double cup it.
	And then they just dump it out because it doesn't sick.
	I think concrete's too dense, but that's okay.
	That's fine.
	So this is from Andy No from five years ago.
	This is, I think, early on in my introduction to Nick Fuentes.
	This is after he, I think, got asked or told not to come to CPAC before he created his own America first.
	AFPAC.
	Yeah.
	Literally Ben Shapiro.
	No way.
	I'm here with Andy No.
	Welcome back to Slightly Outside.
	Here he is.
	Ben Shapiro.
	T-pots on you.
	Let's hit the T-pot.
	T-Poe's on me.
	Oh, my God.
	Hey, man.
	We're about.
	Wow.
	All right.
	What do you think about Ben Shapiro?
	He's not drinking enough adrenochrome if this is happening right now.
	So if you don't know, we're here outside of Turning Point USA conference where Nick Fuentes.
	Oh, it wasn't CPAC.
	It was Turning Point USA Conference.
	Interesting.
	I was kicked out after trying to enter.
	And we also have Ivy Dell here documenting.
	And we are running into Ben Shapiro, apparently.
	New gooners.
	Are you going to walk across him and greet him?
	Yeah, well, I don't know.
	I don't know if he'll greet me.
	Are we going to go off?
	Let's go off, gamer.
	All right.
	So this is, and I remember this is actually one of the first times that Ben had ever encountered Nick.
	What was the podcast I was listening to most recently?
	I think it was posting through it.
	Did a great breakdown.
	That or I want to make sure I give credit.
	They pointed out that most of the grievances that Nick Fuentes has had is because he had, there was a female collaborator of his, a fan, not a fan.
	Gosh, why did I say fan?
	Super fan.
	Not a fan.
	Not even a super fan.
	A co-worker, basically, that he was getting close to potentially romantically, who had an in with the Daily Wire, where she also had her own program for a little bit.
	Okay.
	And she said that she could introduce him to Ben Shapiro.
	And then I think he tried to make it more than friends.
	And she said, oh, no, thanks.
	I don't want to.
	And then she converted to Judaism.
	Okay.
	And then he hated her.
	So I think.
	Is she the art school for Nick Fuentes?
	She's the Zoe Deschanel of his.
	He's doing like the fucking telltale heart.
	Her Jewish heart beats underneath my floorboard.
	It's kind of never more.
	No, I mean, like, they made a compelling argument that Nick Fuentes' anti-Semitism and like bitterness towards people like Ben Shapiro and Jews in general all came from like an unrequited.
	Is this unrequited love?
	Really?
	Like Hitler had a Jewish nanny or something?
	Basically, yeah, it's kind of like that.
	But this is one of the first times that Nick encountered Ben in the wild.
	And unfortunately, I forgot to say, well, I think it's fine because his kids are, he's with his wife and kids here.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait till these fucking idiots hear about removing your bottom ribs.
	Oh my gosh.
	This can't be in the middle of the street, though.
	We'll keep going a while.
	Oh, okay.
	Ben!
	It's great to see you.
	Why did you give a 45-minute speech about me at Stanford, and you won't even look at what you're up to?
	Come on, I'm right here.
	Maybe it was a griper who took out Charlie Kirk because they don't care if their kids were there So this wasn't before Well, that's our free speech warrior, everybody.
	Champion of the battle of ideas.
	Look at, I've said so many times, like in my conversations about our encounters with Nick Fuentes, what are the two things I always say?
	First of all, he's got, he radiates the Holocaust, like an evilness that is undescribable.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And number two is his legs are as thick as his arms.
	And I just want people to take a quick peek here and confirm this.
	Look at these tiny little things.
	I've never seen legs like arms.
	So, yeah, tiny little man.
	Yeah, little dude.
	Little dude who is definitely putting his shirt on.
	Right?
	So you agree.
	I'm glad to hear you repeat that because to me, it was an unexplainable radiation off of him.
	Yeah.
	It was intense and weird.
	Yeah.
	And I was talking about this earlier, and I was like, my superpower is that people can't get a read on me.
	And he said that out loud.
	Remember, he's like, I can't figure you out.
	Well, I found that interesting when we were interviewing folks for that whole thing.
	Is that everyone wanted to know your stance before answering some questions?
	Which is bullshit.
	Like, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think it's just like they didn't trust us, which I get.
	I mean, I wouldn't trust us either.
	But we weren't immediately off-putting, which is kind of interesting, right?
	Like, so we have some levels.
	I had a goatee then.
	Well, yeah, and I had these very cool sunglasses, clearly.
	Dude, you're so fucking cool, dude.
	Red Pill Bill shows up.
	Redfield Bill shows up.
	I get all the you and Alex Stein at the top there.
	Yeah, we chatted with Alex that day, too, didn't we?
	I had a wonderful interview with Alex Stein that day.
	Like, we really connected.
	We talked about the loss of his mother.
	Like, it was actually a pretty lovely conversation.
	And it was before he got his show.
	And now it's also, I've never seen him so out of character.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, we somehow broke through in that, which was really interesting.
	Oh, yeah, interesting.
	We need to revisit that footage.
	We do.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So back to, I guess, doxing Ben Shapiro's family.
	Yes.
	Come on.
	This is salmon.
	This is salmon.
	Oh.
	No, no, no.
	This is what's it, John.
	What's it?
	That's his pregnant one.
	Aren't you supposed to rise above instead of going down in the mud?
	You're only repeating that because you're trying to make yourself sound important and you're not.
	This is the only time we can get him is when he's crossing the street and he uses voice.
	I guess he's just like the Palestinians using human shields, right?
	He's so funny and clever.
	Well, the just.
	Yeah.
	So that's kind of an icky fun clip, huh?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So back to Piers, where I think we're nearing the end of this.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Do we want a future for this country?
	Conservatism now or right-wing doesn't just mean conservative values or principles.
	It means conserving this country.
	And that means conserving this country from both internal threats and external threats.
	And you can expand that to mean mass immigration from countries that don't share our values that will make us feel like strangers in our own hometowns.
	That's the legitimate grievance that you see from these people.
	And silencing them isn't going to make it go away.
	And I don't even agree with them on a whole lot of these issues.
	But as far as Marjorie Taylor Greene, I have her on too.
	Again, I love that.
	Pierce Morgan.
	That's the thing, dude.
	Sorry.
	Pierce Morgan is fully comfortable with Steven Crowder saying that he wants his neighborhoods to remain and look white.
	Yeah, oh, totally.
	Yeah.
	I just, how can you say that you are willing to push back against racism, especially explicit racists like Nick Fuentes, when you're not capable of pushing his when you're not capable of pushing back against like barely veiled racism?
	Totally, yeah.
	Well, and looking at all this stuff, it's the culture that comes to America is what makes America so interesting.
	Well, he ate Pad Thai the night before.
	Yeah.
	Too pythy.
	Yeah.
	He probably lied about the rock.
	He just hurt his mouth.
	Too pythy.
	I'm not.
	I mean, I am another fent.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	You can't.
	As long as you can do it.
	I just know that you're tired.
	Yeah, it's ambiguous.
	So I'm doing ambiguous.
	All right.
	Well, but yeah, it's like I'm lispy.
	I mean, yeah.
	Well, we know how he feels about lispy people.
	Is what caused everyone to lose money on YouTube for like months?
	You remember my take on this?
	I never covered that.
	No.
	Oh, man.
	The Vox.
	The apocalypse.
	Yeah.
	We'll get to it.
	He's on this whole fucking, like, we want to conserve what this is.
	And I guess, like, but the alternative is that, like, they're advocating for then mass surveillance, like more surveillance than we already have now.
	That's like how you make this happen.
	And like, that's sort of the arranged agreement between like tech and government right now.
	Is like, that's where things are going, right?
	Is into this like just more of a surveillance state.
	And you're going to pay for it through your fucking, you know, through your internet bills and through your electricity bills, things like that nature.
	It's like, you're, that's that.
	The alternative is that.
	That's what he's advocating for, essentially.
	How do we, how do we make sure this happens?
	Surveillance.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's the bottom line.
	The only way to really have this like homogenous society is to like enforce it some way.
	And yeah, like for one, I don't want that at all.
	I don't think, I don't think anyone really wants.
	I mean, I think that certain bad people want that, but it's like ignoring the positive aspects of culture coming into our country is just stupid.
	Just dumb shit.
	I mean, like, where does that lead, I guess, right?
	Like if you're monitoring the current levels of minorities and saying this is acceptable, but we need to balance it, like preserving the white race.
	Like there's no, there's no giving.
	It's just great replacement bullshit.
	Yeah.
	It's just explicit racism.
	Yeah.
	So and Pierce is fine with it, though, right?
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, I mean, he's absolutely.
	He's not pushing back.
	Sorry about that.
	With them.
	And silencing them isn't going to make it go away.
	And I don't even agree with them on a whole lot of these issues.
	But as far as Marjorie Taylor Green, I'd have her on too.
	Again, I don't know what her position is.
	Please.
	Yeah, you know, what's really ironic about this is the Democrats are polling at record loads.
	It's not true, actually.
	If the tides have turned, they've changed a ton.
	But also, I do want to point out that Stephen is talking to an immigrant.
	Well, no, I think he is actually back.
	I know.
	But he is a.
	Does he have dual citizenship?
	I'm saying he's talking to someone who's not from our country and he doesn't have an issue with him.
	Well, he's one of the good ones.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, it's one of those.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You're one of the good ones.
	You came over the right way.
	How do you know?
	I'm here on a work visa.
	I'm on an H-1B, and you just said that I'm like weak hands or whatever you said.
	You scrawny Indian bodies.
	Uh-oh.
	So he is.
	I didn't have enough milk in my diet or whatever.
	So breaking news, Pierce is attempting to become a dual citizen.
	Whoa.
	But obtaining an Irish passport.
	Whoa.
	He's going to go through the background here.
	Well, no, he doesn't.
	I don't think he wants to be an American.
	He's not going to do it the right way.
	Jesus.
	Yeah.
	I'm clearly happy.
	Tell you.
	I suck so much, Pierce.
	I clearly have no idea.
	I'm clearly happy.
	Tell you how to do it.
	I suck so much, Pierce.
	You clearly have no idea.
	Which is preaching the Sasana, the new superstar is basically a brazen socialist, if not a communist, in Mamdani.
	And you just think they don't know what they're doing.
	And right at that moment, you see the right beginning to splinter when actually, if they could reach the kind of coherent unity that you're talking about, you've got to think there's a very good chance they win the next election, too.
	Not if they're broken in two, which is the way some people seem to want to take it.
	It's a very odd piece of timing, given how vulnerable the other team is.
	Speaking of timing, this was to yesterday.
	Poll Democrats have biggest advantage for control of Congress in eight years.
	Yeah, it's substantial.
	It's something like 14 points.
	Yeah, 14 points, which is absolutely bonkers compared to the last time we had a blue wave, like eight years ago or whatever.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	It was even less than that at this time.
	It's crazy.
	Well, I mean, the way that Trump has handled the economy and immigration and all that.
	Gas is down, energy's down.
	Wait, what?
	Immigration gets over.
	No, I'm saying that he's failed on this, unfortunately.
	Dude, I can buy a $10 egg carton.
	Yeah.
	But I can also buy a $987654 egg carton as well.
	So.
	You can buy whatever you want, dude.
	Look at that.
	Yeah, I think that he's really given me a lot of options.
	Like, I can get the blood eggs or I could get the $7 eggs.
	I mean, I do get the nice eggs.
	I like the good eggs.
	So I don't buy the eggs.
	Whatever my wife gets for eggs.
	Like, I'm with her, but I don't think that's.
	Dude, you're balked.
	It's like cocked, but the chicken.
	Is that a thing?
	No.
	Okay.
	No, I'm trying a bunch of new stuff.
	Okay, nice.
	I'm just working it out.
	It's just you and me in the comedy mothership.
	That's us.
	It's just me bucket pulling in front of Tony, trying some stuff out.
	I know some new pills you could try.
	There we go.
	Foundation, dude.
	I'll meet you in the green room.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	Let's sort of distill it.
	The left is like, hey, and you can bleep this.
	We want chicks with dicks meddling at the Olympics.
	We want them on the podium.
	We want kids transitioning.
	We want never-ending funding for Snap, where you have $9 billion a year being spent on Coca-Cola.
	Over 60% of these people have no business being on Snap.
	If you can't cut Fanta from Snap, you can't cut anything.
	They are lowest ever.
	Like you said, in their polling.
	And then people on the right going, you must be paid by the Jews to point that out.
	Or you must be paid by Qatar.
	It's like, are we adults?
	I should say that Candace Owens has recently called out Steven Crowder as being a paid shill, which is kind of funny.
	Oh.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	There's a little bit of info.
	What is that there, Jared?
	That's very interesting, Stevie.
	Wait, who'd you draw there?
	And really, I'm not going to push back about transitioning.
	And I won't.
	I actually didn't really follow what you said there, Tara, because it was a bit of a word salad, Steven.
	Sure.
	Go ahead and keep going.
	No pushback, please.
	Let's all have this conversation.
	But I do, again, my big issue is the facade of anyone, anytime, as far as debate and conversation, but they don't live it.
	They don't follow it.
	So I'd like to hear one name come out of their mouth, and that's mine.
	And I would welcome them and respectfully host them.
	But I don't know why that doesn't happen.
	I know that they'll go on sometimes shows that give them softballs.
	I cannot imagine a world in which any guest, any guest, if it was you, Pierce, and you said, I love Stalin, I would go, wait a second, Pierce, let's explore that, right?
	Like maybe I'm your therapist or something.
	That's pretty interesting.
	You know, he killed a whole lot of people.
	I just wonder where the curiosity went at the time when we should be winning.
	And yes, Donald Trump has stepped on a few rakes.
	I don't know what he's doing.
	I don't know who's in his ear.
	But here's the one thing, too.
	I really.
	I don't know what Donald Trump's doing.
	I love it.
	It must be somebody in his ear.
	Like telling him how to.
	No, I'm saying he's like, it can't be Trump.
	Oh, no, it's not Trump.
	Yeah, Trump.
	Trump's smart.
	Yeah, he's a smart guy.
	Smart guy who knows how to run businesses.
	Yeah, that makes sense to me.
	What are you drawing over there, Jared?
	I know you're doing a follow-up.
	Not yet.
	I'm trying to think if I got another one in me.
	Want to drive home?
	We have something with President Trump that we've never had.
	And that's a feedback mechanism.
	Oh, wait.
	Right?
	Kind of like I was talking about DoorDash earlier.
	Donald Trump, President Trump, listens.
	Meaning, the conservative side can voice their opposition to his policies, and he will adapt.
	Yeah.
	Wait, how is that like DoorDash?
	Hey, listen.
	You hit message your dasher.
	Yeah.
	And then you say, hey, listen, here's my address.
	Here's what my front door looks like.
	Please put it under the mat.
	Yeah.
	And then they say something rude to you and ask for more money.
	Oh, that's kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	And instead, we're focused on flinging shit at each other.
	Yeah.
	I couldn't agree more.
	It's fascinating.
	Steven Crowding, great to have you back in on Sensor.
	He isn't even listening anymore.
	What the fuck did I just say?
	He's just like, this is all very interesting.
	This is what's going on with my boys.
	Stephen, that's quite interesting, Stephen.
	And I really enjoyed the part where you talked about Coca-Cola.
	And that reminds me, a word from our sponsors.
	I will give you that really quick.
	I've always been blunt about health.
	It's one thing you can't debate your way out of, like all of you.
	I just want to tell you, he does have a supplement.
	Of course.
	Is it foundation?
	No, it's superpower.
	The first time doctor visits.
	Superpower charge.
	Get you one big one when it shoots out.
	Wait, sometimes you need a lot more reassurance when superpower resonates for me.
	Superpower flips the script on preventative health.
	I'm a real guy who likes it when it's one big one and superpower supercharges that premium health analysis tool.
	Sure, sure.
	But he also.
	This isn't your run-of-the-mill gas station pill.
	No surreal.
	This is made with the real stuff.
	Garlic powder.
	Black pepper extract.
	Parentheses, fruit.
	Apparently, there's K2 in this thing.
	I'm sorry.
	Is this actually a gas station pill?
	I think he scratches the sticker off the label.
	Oh my God.
	I want to find out so much more about it.
	All right.
	So let's say goodbye.
	Pierce, let's explore that.
	Right?
	Like, maybe on your rakes.
	I don't.
	We have something.
	I was tight.
	Can vote.
	We're focused on flinging shit at each other.
	Thank you very much.
	Couldn't agree more.
	It's fascinating.
	Steven Crowder, great to have you back in on Sensit.
	Thank you very much.
	Bring me in when you're president of the BBC.
	Thank you, sir.
	All right.
	Well, that's scary, right?
	Scary to think about.
	Piers loves it.
	Biggest laugh I've seen out of him in a long time.
	Oh, that is funny.
	You should draw that one, Jared.
	I freaking love this guy.
	Oh, man, that's a good face.
	I think he hates Steven Crowder.
	And I think I dislike him quite a bit.
	What a mess.
	What a total mess.
	So then after that, they go on to briefly talk with Matt Schlapp and then jumping over to Dan Crenshaw, but we're not going to be covering those.
	Yeah.
	Snake?
	What?
	Tell you about you silent snake over there?
	Oh, yeah.
	All right.
	That was a great impression of that noise.
	Listen, you can't make fun of the way he looks, or else we'll get canceled like Pete Davidson did, remember?
	Remember when shit fucking mattered?
	Did he?
	He's fucking porky.
	I'm sorry.
	On and apologize for calling him snake.
	I wish I mean, listen.
	I just, I'm so sick of everyone being offended all the time.
	All these snowflakes, right?
	Sorry, I'm putting on my glasses.
	Get your glasses on right now, dude.
	Get those fucking things on, dude.
	I mean, all of this just drives me crazy because it crazy, great noise.
	It drives me crazy because all of this stuff, the stuff that should be offensive, isn't it all?
	No.
	Like, Nick Fuentes should not be platformed.
	And I honestly.
	And so Nick Fuentes.
	All right.
	I worry about if we wanted to ever post that or interview that we had with him because I wouldn't want to give him a voice at all.
	Well, I think it was a unique time, though.
	Remember, it's like almost a transitional period because it was post-January 6th, but before Nick had kind of really exploded.
	Yeah, and I mean, he's only most like, listen, I've had him.
	He's a bit on my radar for a very long time.
	And I've, I've, I, if they could Kashi, or what is it?
	What is it, Kashi?
	Kalshi?
	Kalshi.
	If I could have called she'd the rise of Nick Fuentes, I'd be rich, dude.
	I would be very wealthy.
	Yeah.
	I, he was my number one most concerning figure five years ago.
	Yeah.
	And look where we're at.
	Uh he's terrible over here tooting my horn.
	Byron called it.
	Oh, major Zoltar award here.
	That's great, dude.
	Should we do a year-end awards show where we can probably like, yeah, it'd be kind of fun, huh?
	The strongest shoulders.
	Strongest shoulders, huh?
	Oh, shrugs, yeah.
	Because that's a thing that we do.
	We do shrug clubs.
	Shrugs.
	Shrug together.
	Right now.
	All right.
	Dan Crancha's on the show.
	The show's over.
	We forgot to say.
	Hello, Shrug Nation.
	Appreciate you very much.
	Again, if you want to watch the video version of this, which would make a lot more sense, go to shrug.club and see what we look like.
	It's free.
	It's free.
	And you can see the lovely drawing that Jared did.
	And we are going to be doing a silent auction for it.
	And we'll donate the money to something.
	Great.
	Would we do a non-silent auction online?
	They just call and shout.
	You have to speak out loud.
	It's like goddamn Wall Street in here.
	Everyone's shouting and throwing ticker tape and stuff.
	Like, we're just having a great time.
	And the loudest wins.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	We're going nuts.
	Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.
	We got Matthew Lesko in my corner.
	He's telling me about all these crazy deals, right?
	Oh, that guy's rules.
	You know, I met him.
	It's free money.
	Yeah, I love that guy.
	All right.
	So it's late.
	He's the real Riddler, dude.
	He is the real Riddler.
	Riddle me this.
	How do you evade taxes?
	i'm a libertarian it's kind of like i wrote 17 books about it It's kind of his vibe, and it definitely ages us.
	So, Matthew.
	Yeah, 19 years old.
	I'm surprised.
	I've only seen it on YouTube, dude.
	Wait, you didn't?
	My dad told me about him.
	My dad loves Lasko.
	He gave me his book.
	The first time I ever smoked weed, it was with a dab pen, dude.
	Okay, Jesus.
	I love it.
	All right.
	So, yeah, I mean, this was kind of a fun little way to cover something.
	Yeah, it was.
	I know it's not the show that you guys deserve, but it's the show you get.
	I think they deserve it.
	Well, okay, they have been asking.
	Get what you fucking deserve.
	What is that from?
	I don't know.
	This is the colonizer's delight right here.
	You know what I mean?
	It's a busy week, and you're getting something.
	I think, I mean, yeah, I'm not sure when this is coming.
	I think it's coming out the week after Thanksgiving because I am going to try to have the most recent episode or the second most recent episode up tomorrow, technically.
	Okay.
	On the 21st.
	Don't hold me to it.
	So double salutes out there in the meanwhile.
	Yeah, double salutes is up.
	You can go check that out at shrek.club.
	There's plenty.
	If you're having, if you're fucking fighting with your aunt who's drinking boxed wine.
	Yeah, dude.
	You're trying to make some mediocre points at her.
	If you donate $10,000 to our Patreon, we will come and argue with your family.
	I'll shove your aunt.
	Yeah, we'll fight somebody.
	I'll push your aunt over.
	Yeah, you give us a plate.
	And you're welcome to the Thanksgiving table, not the barbecue, Benny Johnson.
	Come on, Benny.
	What do you guys do for Thanksgiving?
	Do you want to talk about that?
	No, it's about a two-hour episode, so we should probably just call it.
	Okay, well, what did you guys do for Thanksgiving?
	I'm going to watch the power hour.
	You're invited everyone.
	We're inviting everyone to Thanksgiving.
	Yeah.
	There's a power hour, like a Doughboys power hour?
	The High and Mighty Power Hour.
	Oh, yeah, pardon me.
	I know John Gabris.
	Pardon me.
	All right.
	Thank you so much, Shrug Nation.
	I appreciate you very much.
	That's all I can handle this week.
	If you disagree with anything we said, happy Thanksgiving.
	And you're invited on the show.
	To convince otherwise.
	Come on over.
	Please.
	Please come on our show.
	Now, I think my major takeaway from this episode is that Steven is disrespectful.
	He used this opportunity on Pierce Morgan's show to do nothing.
	Sales pitch.
	He did not want to engage with any of the questions that Pierce Morgan had.
	I don't really care because clearly Skill Truth doesn't handle himself, right?
	He really didn't mind Byron, you know?
	It seemed like he didn't care if he was.
	He came on our show and he said he didn't really give a shit what he was saying.
	Oh, yeah.
	Pierce really didn't care.
	Yeah, he said, I'm not even listening.
	I completely agree with everything you just said.
	He said, Love, he kept saying it's crazy.
	No, I mean, like, I'm thinking about eating Solvaki.
	It's a fun word, Steven.
	Solvaki.
	I use yum yum.
	I was disappointed, you know.
	I mean, the last time Steven was on was the time that he was defending immediate defensive violence.
	And this time he used this nothing more than.
	And I mean, things really must not be going good at Louder with Crowder because, like, two things.
	Rumble views are fake.
	The numbers that I'm looking at, they're saying that he's getting 700,000, 900,000, 1.02 million views.
	And yet they're emailing us about their mugs.
	That's great.
	That's a good point.
	And Russell Brand is getting like 50,000, 20,000 views.
	Like, bullshit.
	Not real stuff.
	It's not real.
	And number two, Steven has returned to broadcasting on YouTube.
	Oh, he has.
	Yeah.
	So they must not be getting enough growth or seeing any growth at all.
	Gentlemen, I've made the negative decision.
	We're going to relaunch the piss meme.
	Well, yeah, people love cartoons.
	People love looking at cartoons.
	That'll be good.
	They were saying they were missing this thing.
	Uh-huh.
	Which is a cartoon, of course, of a mug peeing on YouTube because YouTube is dead.
	Rumble did it.
	But we're coming back.
	They're undead now.
	YouTube's a zombie.
	YouTube undead, dude.
	YouTube, a zombie, and we are zombie hunters.
	Of course.
	We're back, though.
	That's so interesting, Steven.
	Yum, yum, get you some.
	Wait, what?
	He's got a plate.
	Yes, Thanksgiving, dude.
	Wow, that's crazy.
	Take a plate, bro.
	Yeah, so I just, I got to say, I want to point out that Steve is he is desperately trying to grow his audience.
	And the one thing that grows an audience faster than any, you know, between 10 and 20%, if you appear or appear with someone who's a peer or peers, then you grow your audience.
	That's one of the quickest, easiest ways to do it.
	There's no advertising your way.
	Not to mention having crazy views that will be shared.
	Exactly.
	So say something fucked up when you are with someone famous, arguably more famous than you.
	That's the equation.
	And I think that that has been the strategy for the last few weeks.
	Should we end each episode with us saying things that would be really fans of out of context and just try and get some like, you wouldn't believe what this podcaster said?
	I was about to say something.
	The clickbait section.
	Yeah, that's when Red Pill Bill comes.
	Yeah, Red Pill Bill.
	Listen, I am not going to.
	He's our marketing guy.
	Just because you can't see my eyes doesn't mean you can't hear my voice.
	And it is an audio format.
	So I don't think I can say like fucked up stuff.
	I don't think.
	No.
	I know a bunch of guys that'll say fucked up shit for nothing.
	They are on Facebook video.
	And they are cool guys.
	No, I think, yeah, why don't you let us know whose podcast you want us to be on?
	That'd be kind of cool, right?
	We'll get on another podcast.
	We can guest on all kinds of great shows.
	We'll guess on Piers.
	Well, if Piers houses, yeah.
	I mean, like, listen.
	Tell your friends for Thanksgiving to have us on their show.
	Oh, and I forgot.
	And we'll go on every show.
	Every one of them.
	Please.
	No.
	So thankful for you.
	I guess we could say that.
	I think it comes out after Thanksgiving.
	But yeah, we are thankful for your time and love.
	And thank you for your ears.
	And I mean, if you say nice stuff, that's good too.
	I'm thankful for everything.
	Yeah, what?
	Whole world.
	You have to be thankful for the different opinions.
	Hashtag blessed.
	All right.
	Let's hear them out.
	Be somebody.
	Let's hear them out, dude.
	You want me to hear them out?
	Let's hear them out.
	All right.
	Let's play us out.
	And we'll see you next time.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	What was that?
	I would have to say pumpkin pies, my favorite one, Steven.
	All right.
	So is that Pierce or is that Flipper Zero?
	Or Ring Road Star.
	They're all the same guy.
	And they're all at the kids' table for some reason, which is interesting.
	Some for words.
	This card table's not big enough for all four of us.
	They're real serious.
	He pushes someone hard and breaks the plastic chair.
	Some kid falls back, cracks his head.
	Oh, no.
	Mom, Pierce, hit me again.
	All right.
	I'm Byron.
	I'm causing tears, Morgan, from Texas.
	I'm Tennis.
	Take care.
	You've been listening to an Audio World original produced by Byron McCoy.

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