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Hi.
Hello, Shrug Nation.
Not your typical double salutes preview this week.
A couple days after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Jared and I decided to hop on stream and talk through our thoughts.
This is going to be the first hour of that.
If you want the full two hour conversation as well as a video version, all for free, visit shrug.club or patreon.comslash shrugclub.
As this was just a few days post murder, we didn't get every detail correct.
So keep that in mind.
Also, know that the episode coming out in two weeks will be us covering Stephen's really gross response in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, calling for swift, defensive hair trigger violence against the left.
So I guess look forward to that.
Until then, enjoy this.
Take care.
Take care of yourselves.
We'll talk soon.
To Double Salutes, the most patriotic live stream on the World Wide Web, where we, of course, soar through the week's, oh, God, best propaganda.
Crazy propaganda this week.
Wild one.
I don't even know where to begin.
This is not going to be our typical Double Salutes, I don't think.
I think we're going to probably focus quite a bit on one thing in particular, and that thing is probably.
The assassination of Charlie Kirk, I guess.
Unfortunately, Charles.
Charles D. Kirkinton, yeah.
Donald J. Kirkington.
Bummer of a week.
James Kirk.
Yeah.
Should we start with the end first?
What is the end?
What does that look like?
I think it's when the earlier today, Friday, the 12th.
September the 12th, when a reporter asked Trump, You've had a really hard last three days.
How are you doing?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
With the loss of your friend Charlie.
And he says, Oh, quite good.
And I don't know if you knew how to find that quickly, but I can finish saying it.
But he says, Oh, quite good.
And I don't know if you guys saw that the construction on the White House ballroom has started.
They got all these big trucks coming in here.
Have you guys seen this?
Well, I mean, listen, he's got a lot going on, right?
How are you holding up for the last day and a half, sir?
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks.
They just started construction of the new borrower for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.
And it's going to be a beauty.
It'll be an absolute and magnificent structure.
And I just see all the trucks we just started.
So it'll get done very nicely.
And it'll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually.
We're going to debut it for Conor McGregor to come here just in time for his Irish presidency.
He's going to pick up a bench and throw it through a window.
That'll be kind of cool, right?
You know what, though?
I'm starting to think that Trump actually might just have some hearing problems because this is not like the first time that he has been spoken to and then just spoke completely.
Like they're saying it's dementia, I think it's probably just hearing loss.
It could be.
Yeah.
Because who was he talking to not too long ago?
It was like a different world leader, and they were talking about how they needed to get all of the stolen Ukrainian children back from Russia, and he pivoted to something else immediately.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like, I feel like he does it enough times to where it's like, you're right.
It's just.
Yeah, I don't know.
I did half-mast flags for the weekend.
I don't know what else you want from me for this.
Important moment.
We are here, Europeans, as friends and allies, to work together with you on a just and lasting peace for Ukraine to stop the killing.
I want to thank you also that you mentioned the thousands of Ukrainian children that have been abducted.
And as a mother and grandmother, every single child has to go back to its family.
This should be one of our main priorities also in these negotiations to make sure that the children.
Come back to Ukraine to their families.
Oh, they don't even.
They cut it before he responded, immediately after that.
Did you tell them about the ballroom there as well?
Yeah, you got to see this stuff.
We got gold stuff.
We got paint.
It's all gold.
I'm going to have Dana White.
Can you believe that?
Dana White's going to be the first guy to hang out in this thing with me.
Me and Dana, me and Dana, Connor McGregor.
I mean, it's going to be really cool stuff.
I think that it's great stuff.
It's good stuff.
And why are you here?
Who are you again?
Which one are you?
People are loving this stuff.
All right.
Well, man.
Do we want to start with?
I guess, I mean, I don't know.
It's one of those things.
It's like we don't need to walk through the timeline of what happened.
I was watching one of my streamers when I saw they said, Am I being trolled?
I've seen like five people in the chat say that Charlie Kirk just got shot.
And sure enough, Charlie Kirk got shot in the neck.
Where were you on September the 10th when Charlie leaned to the left?
I think he actually leaned forward, then leaned back after saying how much he attributes gang violence.
And then he confidently leaned back in his chair in Utah where he was shot in the neck, it striking his jugular vein, and a bunch of blood spilling out in front of everyone.
It was really awful.
Awful 3,000 people, yeah.
It was, it went millions, hundreds of millions of views on X at this point, and it's just like relentless.
Yeah, um, yeah, turn on the uh hell app and look at a guy die.
Yeah, you flick open yours.
Our day, uh, three days ago, uh, now, well, I guess really two days ago.
Yeah, it's been a long two days.
9 10 2025, Charlie Kirk, the death of Charlie Kirk.
And I guess, I mean, we're fairly sure at this point that we have a shooter.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm very cautious when I always say a ledge shooter, you know.
But the third person that they've had in custody over this.
Yeah, which is really interesting.
Did you see the video of the old guy that they thought it was initially?
And as he's being carried off, he was yelling, shoot.
Coming out.
Well, his pants were down.
I don't know how that happened, but I thought he was shouting, Shoot me.
I don't know if you remember that.
I didn't hear him.
I didn't have the volume on as I was looking.
I was at work when it happened.
I was in a meeting and my phone was going berserk.
And I was like, Something's got to be happening.
And so I'm like the note taker for the meetings.
Oh, no.
And so finally I had a moment because like the You know, we all take our turns or whatever talking about our things.
Yeah.
And finally, like the third person goes, and I like looked at my phone and I was like, no fucking way.
It's just like my mouth dropped.
My manager's like, what's up?
And I'm like, keep going.
This shit, something happened.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I was working during January 6th and I had kind of a similar kind of feeling where you're just like, Jesus, you're getting buzzed the hell out of, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I was at work on January 6th.
And you had to keep working, and you're like, wait, are we still working?
I didn't.
You stopped.
I just plugged my phone in, and I just turned it on.
I was like, what's going on?
I was watching Baked Alaska enter the capital, and I was like, this is wild.
Whatever's going on.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, no, there was a little bit of a manhunt.
I think it lasted, it went overnight, right?
I don't know if it lasted a full day until they caught him.
Yeah, it didn't seem like it went too long.
Like, what is the 10th?
It was Wednesday.
So, Wednesday at noon, Mountain Standard Time, and just outside of Provo, Utah.
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Yeah.
Tyler Hanson's narc father.
Tyler Robinson.
Robinson, pardon me.
Hanson.
What am I thinking?
And it was a joke, of course.
Yeah, it sounds like he confessed it to his father or implied that he had committed the murder, maybe to a family friend.
But either way, it was his father who found out and held him until the authorities showed up.
It turns out he was also talking an awful lot in a Discord server.
And, guys, we have a Discord server for the audio wolf stuff.
So, just keep in mind that that stuff, police can see that stuff, you know?
So, let's keep it chilling there, okay?
GG, remember, in Roblox.
In Roblox.
That should be your signature.
Set that to your signature, and then you're in good shape, right?
All good.
Yeah, before he was caught, authorities did find a hunting rifle wrapped in a towel, dropped in a bush in a wooded area.
And this is one of the things that Tyler Robinson was talking about with his friends that he had to go pick up the rifle, or that he was scouting the area to make sure that no one found it.
And this weapon, and what I guess at this point we've gotten used to people scrawling messages on weapons for mass shootings, or sometimes even in the case of Luigi Mangione, who allegedly.
That's Brian Thompson, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, healthcare CEO.
The weapon that was used in those killings had, what is it, deny, depose, defend, which are.
Yeah.
That was their company tactics to avoid paying claims.
That was what was etched on the bullets in the gun that was used in that.
Yeah, and these ones were actually much more interesting, I thought, because as we found out, that the right wing folks are doing these transactions with wizards, I suppose.
Okay.
And the wizards are then doing this.
And this, Byron, is very interesting.
We were saying earlier that they're enchanting these bullets with trans ideology.
Oh, God.
Can we get to that in just a sec, actually?
Before we get to that, I want to talk a little bit about our main focus guy here.
Steven Crowder got an exclusive on the 10th.
His team received an email from an officer at the ATF, supposedly, and it included a screenshot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and the cartridges located by the ATF.
So, quote, on September 10th, 2025, at approximately 12 24 p.m., conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley.
University in Orem, Utah.
Mr. Kirk was speaking at the university as part of the American comeback tour.
Blah, blah, blah.
Suspect fled one shot, fired one shot from an elevated position on the rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus.
And the surveillance video shows the suspect jumping off and fleeing the area on foot.
ATF and other law enforcement located an older model.
Is that a Mauser 3006?
30 odd six.
Interesting.
Rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus.
And then it gets interesting.
The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top Fed magazine.
All cartridges had engraved words on them expressing transgender and anti-homophobic.
Fascist ideology.
What the hell?
Look at this memo from the ATF here.
What the hell?
Engraved expressing transgender and anti fascist ideology.
An emergency trace has been submitted in ATF SLC.
That's Salt Lake City.
Is working.
Leads generated by the trace.
The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI and DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions.
Yep.
So that story.
Excuse me?
I said, have you ever heard this song before?
Tell me which song.
I don't think I can hear it, Jared.
We put a YouTube link here.
Okay, let's take a peek.
Uh oh.
15 Shouts from a 30 on 6 by our boy Tommy Waze.
Have you heard this before?
I don't think I have.
All right, that's it.
All right, okay.
That's all we need.
That's fun.
I like that.
That's the gun.
It's a little spice there.
So, this story kind of took off for a little bit.
It got picked up by people like Andy No, Newsweek, even the Wall Street.
Was it the Wall Street Journal who took this story and it kind of ran?
I wasn't really sure.
I didn't really click on any of this one.
Someone in the mainstream media followed that whole trans anti fascist ideology beat, and I'm sure they had access to the similar information that Steven Crowder did, but unfortunately, he was the one who this information was leaked to, because, of course, at this point, he is 6 0 for getting all of these right and also protecting his sources with his life.
So, unfortunately, he's.
Started a little something here with his mug club undercover, unfortunately.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Is this his page right now?
This is his current Twitter situation, yeah.
Can we go to the top of his page real quick?
Yeah, of course I can.
Yeah, what do we got?
Well, I'm seeing that his bio may have changed in the last moments here.
Host of Louder with Crowder, the number one conservative daily show and home of the most watched election live stream in the world.
There we go.
And so, and just until earlier today, it said the number two conservative daily show.
Oh, interesting.
Why was that?
Well, from a 30-odd six.
Okay.
All right.
Oh.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Grok, is this true?
Grok says, yes, verified sources confirm Charlie Kirk was killed on September 10th, 2025.
Crowder's bio changed from conservative daily show.
On September 11th, as the show in the screenshot, his current bio still says.
Oh no.
I hate that.
His ATF people are still leaking this stuff, and he is continuing to watermark all of these documents.
By the way, this is insane!
Like, this is not appropriate leaking.
Like, whoops, but didn't we see like a picture of the bullet said like TRN on the back or something?
Oh, yeah, yeah, let's talk about that really quick.
Okay, so.
The trans ideology thing is bullshit.
There was a press conference this morning.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm going to walk that fucking back because wizards are real and they are enchanting the damn bullet with the trans ideology.
Should we get into that really quick?
If you get shot with a trans bullet, you become trans.
Everyone knows that.
It's like a werewolf thing, right?
Like instead of a silver bullet to kill a werewolf, it's a trans bullet to make you transgender.
And if you do the.
God, I can't remember what the other one was.
It was.
It was three hours ago now.
Yeah.
We've been going for a bit.
September 8th, Jezebel, the feminist satire website.
Is that kind of what they are?
I mean, like, sort of.
Lightly satire.
It's like, well, but sometimes I feel like Jezebel has like real articles.
Yeah.
And up here, they're attached to AV Club, Paste, Twitter, Endless Mode.
And so it's not like reduction.
Where it's like the onion for women's issues or whatever.
Yeah, maybe they're just kind of tongue in cheek.
There's just a little bit of.
They write real stuff.
I don't know.
I'm not actually sure.
I'm not a regular reader of Jezebel.
They're having fun.
Here's proof.
Well, yeah, they paid some Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk.
If the far right misogynist with a bad haircut wants to villainize independent women, Jezebel is more than happy to be the hag of his nightmares.
And this was, again, two days before his death.
The internet has ruined me in thousands of ways, they say here, but one of its strangest gifts is that I can now buy a curse as easily as I can buy a phone charger.
On the mystical website Etsy, you can find a spell for just about anything.
Don't want it to rain on your wedding day?
There's a spell for that.
Want the man who cheated on you to develop an incurable rash?
Uh oh, or premature balding?
The Etsy Coven has you covered.
But the internet has its downsides.
Exhibit A. Charlie Kirk.
Maybe it's his obsession with telling women that, that, hmm, what to do, pardon me, or his aggressively large head.
Jeez, okay.
But the far right podcaster's presence is more irritating than most.
And of course, I'm reading this article with a way back machine because this article is no longer up.
Because, unfortunately, yeah, I mean, this is just a poorly timed little piece by Jezebel.
Um, I guess, right, Jared?
I don't know.
I mean, there's saying that they did something to hurt him, and so maybe Agseth should.
I mean, did they hurt him, though?
Is it ethical to curse a man I've never met?
Probably not.
They didn't hurt him.
But is it unethical?
Agseth, the trunk, might feel differently.
Especially about witches.
He's probably freaked out by that, especially right now.
September 13th.
Can we take Etsy down, please?
I don't.
The problem is, Pete, if we take down Etsy, they're going to pop up three more of them.
You know how these things work.
And your wife can't get those painted signs.
The shooter created 3,000 Charlie Kirks yesterday.
Where can I get a bless this mess sign if we get Etsy taken down, right?
Exactly.
Oh my God.
I'm trying to buy like a hutch and also like a knockoff t shirt that doesn't fit right.
Yeah, I need.
I just love Etsy cursive, you know, like the kind that you use on like a wedding sign that says like Jacob and Abigail or something.
Yeah, I should sell that.
I have great handwriting.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think there's already a pretty established font for that.
I could get in there, though.
You know what I'm saying?
That's true.
I bet you do probably have good handwriting.
I'm not going to undercut them.
All right.
So the next day after the curse here, the priestess sends.
I'll trade for curses for these witches, I guess.
That's fair.
See, that's bartering, and I like that.
That's cool.
So they burnt a picture of him, the edges.
They show the burning here.
Wow.
They timed it perfectly with that Virgo new moon.
Interesting.
Nice.
And it was a big moon.
I was out there looking at it.
It was a big, nice looking moon.
And they followed through.
It was late August, of course.
And then they're trying to see if.
They can get everyone to hate him, and eventually the curse caused them to retract it.
There's an update and a note from the editor here.
On Monday, September 8th, we published the humorous piece titled We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk.
The piece was intended as satire and made it absolutely clear that we wished him no physical harm.
We stand by every word.
But in light of Wednesday's events and the recommendations of our lawyers, we have removed the text.
To be clear, This decision was driven by an abundance of caution for our staff and to avoid the piece being misused in a tense and volatile environment, not by a change in our editorial judgment.
We may republish it at a later date, but out of compassion for the victim's family, we want to make sure we want to make clear that we prioritize an end to violence over anyone wanting to read about Etsy witches, which makes, I guess, sense.
But yeah.
Yo.
They also posted a piece.
Saying there are over 500 million guns in the U.S., which I think is an important piece to also discuss here.
But how many guns must it have, country?
Yeah.
How many hands are there if there's not even 500 million hands?
Does that make sense?
I'll rework it.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get there.
So after the.
The suspect was brought in.
There was a press conference discussing what was actually written on the shell casings of this gun.
Yeah.
I'll tell you.
I'm trying to type here.
What?
Think about the history books.
Yeah, this is what's going to be in them.
Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle.
Inscriptions on a fired casing read.
Notices bulges, capital O, W, O, what's this?
Inscriptions on the three.
Hang on a second.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ooh, ooh.
Yep, you nailed it.
Ooh, notices bulge.
Ooh, ooh.
Bro, what's this?
Ooh, What's this?
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings.
Ooh, ooh.
Red, hey fascist!
Catch!
Okay.
Up arrow symbol, right arrow, and symbol, and three down arrow symbols.
What does that mean?
Up, right, and down, down.
It's the keyboard code for drop a bomb on your enemy in Helldivers 2.
Oh, and Helldivers 2 is a multi platformed game where you, the player, are working with other players who are all Team America, essentially, but you are.
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It is included in the text of the game that you are the fascists and you are doing, um, fascist takeovers of different planets.
And so, like, your team of everybody who's playing, you're all playing together, are working to take over as much of the universe as possible.
And it's sort of, I guess, the universe sort of has this like non stop sort of thing.
And then the developers will send like different threats, or like, if it's too hard or it's too easy, they'll.
Scale it, but I believe that it's whoever's online, you're on the same team.
But it's sort of what's the movie?
Starship Troopers?
Starship Troopers, yes, adjacent, where it's written in that tone.
It's like a satire, kind of.
Yeah, I don't remember.
I can't say his name right now off the top of my head.
Mike Judge?
Robocop.
Oh, sure, sure.
What's the director's name?
Can't remember.
A second unfired casing read, Oh Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Chow Chow.
And a third unfired casing read, If you read this, you are gay, L M A O. All right.
Investor.
So that's.
So.
You are gay.
If you read this.
Paul Verhoeven is the director.
Yeah.
So, listen.
I don't know much about the furry community, but apparently that's what the initial reference was to notice the bulge.
Notices bulge.
Yeah, so it's two guys talking, and it's like you pull, like the one furry pulls the other one in, and then they notice the bulge.
And then they're like, oh, what's this?
Oh, well.
It's just a dialogue, it's just like a back and forth.
So basically, it's used to describe.
How about one furry having a boner?
Yeah, it's used to describe an awkward online flirting, though.
That's kind of how it's been adapted, right?
Right, yeah.
From furry fan fiction to whatever the fuck uwu is.
Yeah, listen, I don't live on that kind of internet.
I'm almost 40 years old at this point.
I just don't understand.
Indie Alleged Shooter is 22 years old, kind of right in the sweet spot of whatever this new Gen Z. Internet culture, like Mimi, skibbity toilets influenced.
I guess, shooters.
Skibbity movie.
Yeah.
Michael Bay.
Where's Byron?
I'm right here.
I don't understand.
Michael Bay?
They're doing a skibbity with Bay?
Yeah.
No way.
Get fucked.
I'm going to quit the show.
I'm telling you right now that they've already done it.
They're working on it today.
I'm listening.
He's waking up and he's doing the Skivvity Toilet movie.
There is absolutely no way.
Have you not pressed enter yet?
It's a skimmity toilet film and TV franchise in the works.
Yeah.
And who's attached to it?
Oh my God.
Why?
How?
How?
Who is that?
That's Michael Bay.
What's that man's name?
Well, first of all, Michael Bay has enough money that he doesn't need that.
That's not Lord Farquaad.
Yeah, like he needs to get a different haircut.
That's crazy.
All right.
Okay.
We're moving along.
I just say it.
If you read this, you're gay, whatever, dude.
Listen.
Okay.
Yeah, skibbity toilet.
Yeah, it's all bullshit.
It's bullshit.
If he would have not killed Charlie Kirk, he could have been skibbity toilet in the Michael Bay Zone.
He could have auditioned at least, okay?
Listen, so for Crowder to say that that is trans ideology, and I mean, it's kind of anti fascist.
Ideology, but it's not Antifa ideology.
You know, like in Antifa, again, like listen, this big.
The Antifis?
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Yeah.
The gang?
A boogeyman that I didn't know people were still talking about.
Like, oh, yeah.
They saw Eddington, one or two of them.
Yeah.
Maybe they got Eddington killed.
They didn't know what they were watching, and then they were like, they were too fucking chilled out to leave.
We watched this documentary the other day about this town in New Mexico.
It is crazy.
Craziest thing I've ever seen.
It's about this mayor running, this sheriff running for mayor.
It's crazy, man.
Sheriff run for mayor.
And the next thing you know, they're getting new jobs and it's so sick.
And I want one of those new jobs.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Listen, I don't know.
Do you have any strong feelings about these casings?
I like that.
Okay, let me walk that back.
No, no, no.
I'll finish what I was saying.
Sure.
I like that ice cream is good.
Okay.
And I like that our culture is so fucking internet poisoned that someone like Kelly would have a hard time understanding what was just happening.
In any of these bullets, I only don't know one of them.
Which is what?
Do you know the Bella Chow?
Yeah, that's a song.
I don't know the meme.
It's not a meme.
It is a song that was sung.
Let's see.
The song lyrics written on it Oh, Bella Chow, Bella Chow.
Let's see.
So it's an anti fascist song.
Where was it?
It's Italian.
Yeah, clearly Italian.
So, popular World War II era Italian anti fascist song.
It is a 19th century protest song initially sung by Italian workers in the rice fields and dedicated to the partitions of Nazi resistance.
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Yeah.
Isn't it called risotto in Italy?
That's funny.
It's a good joke.
It's pretty good.
It's good stuff.
It's late, guys.
Listen, we're doing our best.
Oh.
And I do want to say we're doing this.
We're going to do a full episode on Crowder's actual kind of timeline surrounding this stuff.
But I just thought that maybe we should get this out ahead to let you know.
And you know, we didn't even, we're 30 minutes in here and we haven't really, like, even scratched the surface so much.
We scratched the surface, but I also want to say, like, this is an awful tragedy and this is not, like, anything that needs to be, like, this is, like, fucked up stuff.
Yeah, not cool, but what do they say?
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
All right.
So Jared might be a little bit leaning in that direction and that's fine too.
It's just like so hard not to.
It's like I don't appreciate the fact for his children.
Yeah, and it's like there and saw that.
His wife, I don't really care about.
Sure.
I'm honest.
Okay.
That's fair.
And it's just mostly his children.
It's like a very unfair thing for them to have to grow up without a father.
Well, and they saw it too, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The whole like, I don't know how you process that.
It's like, it's terribly unfair and it's terribly sad.
In a lot of ways, but in even more ways than just those couple, is that it feels just is the wrong word, but it just feels like this person who cried out for this exact thing to happen and this is fine and these sorts of things are fine and he's defending it.
His last words were down to the bone defending it.
And I don't know what type of art Charlie Kirk.
Appreciates, and I have to assume that he just thinks like similarly to his counterparts, Ben Shapiro, for instance.
Man, rap is crap.
Rap's not easy.
Rap is, yeah, rap is crap.
And we're going to hear a little bit of that coming up soon.
Modern art is the only, it's the devil, it's fascism, and everything has to look like a house.
Yeah, Charlie does not let his children listen to anything but classical music.
I don't know if you heard that, but.
No, and so it's not.
Surprising to me, and it's not lost on me that these completely artless hacks, and in this case, died beautifully poetically, and that says maybe something in there.
Yeah, they're like on the uh, in the movie, the movie tale, the fairy tale ending.
Um, I'm struck into calling this person the villain, but the villain dying in like such a way that is like you will never forget.
Charlie Kirk, and you will never forget the way you he overshadowed his death, made everyone forget that it was 9 11 the day after.
It's pretty wild, right?
Like, the Marriott didn't even put out the mini muffins this year.
Are you serious?
They didn't put out the mini muffins, and there wasn't complimentary coffee.
Well, how can I look into the reflection pools if I don't have my mini muffin in hand, you know?
Yeah, and you know, but again, like, my heart goes out to his kids, especially.
His kids specifically.
Yeah, I mean, his daughter just turned three and he has a one year old son.
And I mean, I guess I'm afraid too because, like, I mean, over the past few days watching Stephen Crowder's live streams, just watching the chat just flood with heinous shit, I was sharing with you and Dennis a ton of stuff.
And it's just like, you know, we're small potatoes, Jared, but like.
Tiny.
Seeing stuff that says death to the left.
I mean, saying that this isn't the real shooter.
The real shooter is being sheltered by leftists.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, these people can't like speak to the conversation that like you and I would be like even trying to have with them.
Yeah.
Am I the only one that still wants blood for people celebrating?
I still want people who celebrated his death hunted down.
I want my pound of flesh.
Pound of flesh was a good one.
I pulled it.
It's so good.
Yeah.
And then this, like, the idea that they feel, and this is kind of an interesting thing that if I had like a friend.
Who is on like the righty or right side of right?
Like, I'd really like to talk to them about this, but they said the left has been at war for years.
The right just decided to join yesterday.
So they have this feeling as if they've been attacked for years, right?
Like, yeah, yeah.
Well, we've been dragging their good name through the mud for how long?
Sure.
And a difference of opinion shouldn't mean that you end a friendship or you get me fired from my job, like, just because I think that, like, You know, this minority is like more worth more than this other minority, but they're still worth less than me and my white skin.
Of course.
Like, those are just opinions, and you shouldn't feel any kind of way about me feeling like that.
We should be able to be like, when I die, you should be able to give me my deathbed kiss.
Still.
And that's such kind of a hangover from another program that we've had, but.
Yes, everyone deserves a deathbed kiss.
We're doing this live, so our friends that are still hanging up know.
Yeah, we got to give.
Yeah, and you can, guys, if you want to watch this live, go to twitch.tv slash audio wool network.
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But yeah, I mean, like stuff like, what was it?
Charlie's death was from words that should be outlawed.
I like this one Nazi, fascist, racist, etc.
The left needs to stop using these words.
It only brings violence.
That was one of my favorites that I pulled.
Yeah.
It's so, I don't know, man.
We're looking at the same news in real time.
And then, like, do you just assume that they, like, collectively, like, oh, it's 4 51.
I guess we better sign off and just never update our, like, information on this thing that's happening and we're really invested in it.
That's why I'm saying that, like, actually, none of these people are invested in this thing.
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's they're not they don't actually give a shit.
It's the same as Trump.
Trump's more interested in having a cool building, garden, and yeah, it's a ballroom.
It's 400 million dollars, it's taxpayer money.
You're actually not invited to it because it doesn't fit more than 700 people, I think, at a time.
So, this is interesting.
This is from Robert Evans from Behind the Bastards.
He posted this on Blue Sky.
Just a heads up, this is disinfo, and this is in response to.
Steven Crowder talking about trans ideology and the bullets.
He points out that the 5.56 rifle caliber rounds say TRN on the back, which is Turin, the company.
And it's not trans.
Yeah, it's not trans.
And this is likely the explanation for that.
But yeah, and that's not 100% sure.
But either way.
Wait, Now we're getting into gun talk.
So I could be wrong with that, but.
And so, if that is true, then the wizard, I guess, is just the fucking Gary who makes the bullet.
Oh, that's true.
It's one of the witches or the wizards there.
Yeah, it's the gunsmith.
Okay, all of that aside, though.
That's what's special, I guess.
We're going to get into the episode where Crowder responds to the facts of this coming out, which, of course, more.
Can we play?
I know I sent it to the chat.
Uh huh, his pray for Charlie moment.
Oh, of course, yeah, we can definitely do that.
I believe I sent it to this.
Is this Tom Waits again?
Yeah, I'm sorry, not this chat, but our chat.
With uh, oh, I don't have access to that from here, unfortunately.
Okay, let me because I'm on a PC computer.
That's right, but I do want to say, um, yeah, we're gonna cover Steven's episode kind of going through the reality of what the situation was because the day before he was implying that.
This was another trans shooter, an Antifa trans shooter.
And in his chat this morning, I noticed people say, swore that suspect was going to be trans.
So he is not trans, but he could be gay, someone said.
I thought that was kind of funny.
Hold tight.
Guys, listen.
He may not be trans, but he could be a gay.
Here is the video.
I just want to, everyone, just like check out his shirt.
You can get this at the mug club, I'm sure.
Oh no, it doesn't exist, it says.
What do you mean?
Maybe I'll remove this plus sign that he added at the end.
Okay.
I might have done that, yeah.
Hey, we don't know any more than you do right now.
We're watching CNN.
Everyone here I know has been praying for Charlie Kirk, the Kirk.
Is it a joke that he's watching CNN?
Why is he watching CNN?
Because he fucking loves CNN.
It's like the number one trusted news source.
Family.
I just don't know.
The state of our country, obviously.
It's always good to.
To be praying for someone who just got shot in the neck while wearing a piss off YouTube t shirt where Rumble.
Yeah, we got the mug pissing on YouTube.
Uh huh.
Dennis has a tendency to ask, Is that real?
Yeah, it's real.
This is real.
This is real.
It's a shirt.
He can get one.
We should get him one.
Oh, of course.
And right away, they're already spinning.
I like that also.
It's like not even screen printed.
It's like it's a transfer that prets on bullshit.
Yeah, yeah.
It feels all chunky on his fucking skin, probably.
It's not good.
It's crispy.
It's a crispy shirt.
And like I said, we don't have all the information yet, but I do know what they're saying is wrong.
They're saying this is something now that just heard them say this plagues both sides.
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't plague both sides.
One side has to risk their life and limb to express opinions, and the other acts with complete impunity.
I can't tell you how many times I've been in that situation and been called a nonstick.
And Charlie, all of us have.
I love they're eating.
Yeah, they're eating all those potatoes in the back.
I mean, big old basket of potatoes back here, Steve.
So I guess I'll do a little tease clip.
I pulled this from this morning.
I will show you.
Jesus, I hope I didn't.
Did I fuck up the audio?
Hey, you guys.
Okay, so this is just a little clip from this morning's show.
Where he's kind of doubling down on this.
And I said, not only did S. Crowder tuck his shirt in from the top today, he's also stoking, justifying future political violence against the left.
And then I go on to say, I guess there were no pipe bombs sent to Dems from Caesar Sayak.
Was it Sayak?
There is no Paul Pelosi, whose attacker Kirk called a patriot.
He also, by the way, Charlie Kirk was going to try to raise bail funds for Paul Pelosi's attacker.
That's interesting.
There was no Whitmer plot.
Hortman and her husband are alive.
Pena didn't do drive-by shootings.
Shapiro's house wasn't firebombed on Jan 6 was a Fed's erection.
Yeah, you're right, Steve.
Here's the thing I will show you.
I will tell you guys.
The left is violent.
Oh, New York.
It's not even close.
There is such a thing as right wing violence.
We have not seen it in this country for a very long time.
Okay.
And we're praying and hoping that it does not come.
But when it does rear its ugly head, it tends to be vicious.
Vicious.
Okay.
And it tends to be something from people who are long suffering, and then people end up having enough.
And if you were to craft a playbook on how to get people in this country fed up, It would be after someone being brutally, senselessly murdered in a terrorist act, still placing the blame kind of on him and still doing things the same way.
Yeah, sure, people can say this wasn't, wow, it shouldn't have happened.
And we're sad, there shouldn't be political violence.
But if they keep censoring, if they keep marginalizing, if they keep referring to you as radical, if they keep vilifying you as Nazi, Hitler, racist, homophobe, that means that they want the same thing to happen to you.
And people are fed up.
So, wait, so he's saying that if I call a Nazi a Nazi, then that means I also.
Wait, want them all to be dead, right?
Yeah, yeah, everyone should be dead, huh?
That's right.
Oh, um, didn't like it's like a week ago, like Charlie Kirk said that, uh, uh, Zoran Mamdami, Mamdami, is that how you say it?
I think you got it.
Mamdami, I think I got it.
And Muslims like him were responsible for 9 11.
Yeah, I think he did say that.
Didn't Do you say that?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's fucking crazy.
It's not great, but it's funny because I try really hard to not do the whole what about is and stuff.
But, like, yeah, it's just sort of like, but what is, you know, but in this case, it's just so hard.
You say so much of it and you, like, you put it in the damn shotgun.
Uh, maybe this is like not an apt, uh, yeah, we can do guns.
It's fine.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
We're going down this pipeline anyway.
Uh, so you put it, uh, you put all this gun and you shoot it out, big shotgun blast, and, uh, Every day you're tweeting all of this shit.
Zoran Mom Dami is the fucking reason why 9 11 happened.
Uh huh.
Abortion is the Holocaust.
Yeah.
The fucking nightclub in Colorado Springs, the LGBTQ nightclub.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was that Pulse in Colorado?
I'll have to check.
I think that that was in Tampa.
Oh, Pulse was in Florida.
What's the.
I don't know what the Colorado Springs one was, but it was a 2022 shooting targeted.
Obviously, at the nightclub.
I think you're right.
Buffalo, New York, grocery store.
That was Club Q. Sorry about that.
Buffalo, of course.
Allen, Texas, shopping mall.
2023.
We just do this all day.
You know what I mean?
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And it's like this guy said something probably about every single one of these things.
And he probably said a lot of things about every single one of these.
Things.
And so, when you make a paper trail digitally or otherwise about these and you're very loud about it, you tour on the fact that you're very loud about it, and you're like, give me a microphone so I could be even louder about those things.
It's very hard not to just push that exactly against your person and say, Were you not asking for this to happen?
What were you wearing?
I guess holding up a mirror is.
A shirt that said freedom?
Well, maybe that bullet wanted to fucking fly from.
free.
All right.
Okay.
I don't know about that.
I, you know, I just, you know, what are we, what are we doing here?
What, like, why is it okay for him to say that shit and for people to get upset or not even like, no one's like, everyone's been upset with him.
And it's to a point where it's like, yeah, I can't really give too much more of a fuck about Charlie Kirk.
And so the fact that he got a bullet in his neck, I don't appreciate it on a level of like, that's not how we do things, but it is how we do.
Things we live in a culture of fear and violence, and it's all bad all the time.
I guess I'm worried it's just gonna get worse, though.
But I'd also like it's hard because the problem is, well, the problem is like so the political violence stuff, whenever it happens, and it is someone on the right who does it, which it is statistically more, they are more responsible for it.
I think it's 60%.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I agree.
But, like, this is a business relationship.
60 40.
It's 60 60.
They got the lion's share.
It's actually over 60 and less than 30.
And then there's like a small percentage that is Islamic extremism.
And trans?
No, I mean, maybe.
I don't know.
But that's really small.
And even smaller.
Yeah.
Two people, I guess.
But every time the right, like, when someone on the left does something, and we'll get to a deeper discussion on the The true affiliation of the shooter in this situation, but and we don't actually, you know, we probably won't because we don't really know, it's not super clear at this point, but it's definitely not fully established that he's just a radical right person, but or radical left person.
Every time something happens on the right, like Paul Pelosi or Josh Shapiro's house getting firebombed, or the Michigan congresspeople who were.
Killed by a man pretending to be a police officer wearing a horrifying mask going door to door with a kill list.
It's never, they never take responsibility for it.
They never say, oh man, like we need to cool things down.
We need to, like, you know, politics, people should feel comfortable talking.
They just say, like, oh, it's not real.
It didn't happen.
The Paul Pelosi guy was a gay lover.
They ignore the Michigan.
Shooter after they try to pin it on him because he had a No Kings protest flyer in his car.
They try to say that he was the left.
They try to say that it's Tim Walz, like some sort of weird, like he worked for Tampon Tim and like it's some weird conspiracy.
Like there's, they never take responsibility for things when they happen.
And like when Donald Trump's response to something like this.
It is to repeat the tragedy, like the shooting of Steve Scalise by that Bernie supporter over a decade ago, like a decade and a half ago, brings that up as an example.
Left Party Murder Claims00:05:36
Of this happens all the time, the lunatic left 17 years ago, yeah.
And like, I think we can all take some sort of I mean, in that case, it was just a crazy person.
It's not even like the temperature was that high at that period in time.
Was it 2017?
Right?
Like, yeah, I don't remember.
I just it's insane to me that no responsibility can be taken on the right, and it is unfortunate that the left has to say that cooler heads are going to prevail.
But they just keep getting like their ass kicked by themselves.
Yeah.
And there's this level of exploitation that comes with accepting that like you're going to be the high road party, but you're not even on the same road anymore, right?
Like you're not even heading in the same direction.
Like, there, I mean, it's like clear that like with this one, obviously we haven't gotten there in the narrative.
Sure.
But just sort of like what is a Fracture and like how bad is it?
And like, do we understand how bad the fracture is?
And is that maybe like more clearly part of the, I guess, outwardly, like, uh, like how outwardly somebody who is going to pull the trigger on somebody is going to be more, I don't even know what I'm trying to say, but like, uh, I guess, like.
I don't know.
Trying to put this together in my head is difficult.
Charlie Kerr.
No, I know.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's like we know what the statistics say and we know how we feel about it.
We know what they say we feel about it as far as representatives of the left, the enemy of the people, that we're blood hungry and we're celebrating.
And I have to keep suggesting that.
shrugging at this incident is not the same thing as celebrating it.
That's true.
These things are very different.
And like being indifferent about like Charlie Kirk's death is not even what we are.
It's in the sense of like it happened.
It's unfortunate.
But it's also who is responsible for this?
Tyler Robinson.
Who is Tyler Robinson?
And do we want to just get into that?
Well, give me a couple more seconds because I do want to talk about what Elon Musk is saying, saying that the left is the party of murder.
And we got Stephen Miller's wife saying it's a real treat to see all these liberals condemn political violence now.
You called us Hitler.
You called us Nazis.
You called us racists.
You have blood on your hands.
And then I wanted to play that Nancy Mace clip.
Yeah, the Nancy Mace clip, certainly.
I thought that that would be.
I think it expedites sort of like what the explanation of their misunderstanding of what is happening to them in real time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to say this Democrats own what happened today.
I am devastated.
My kids have called panicking.
Every conservative in the country called panicking.
Just because you speak your mind on an issue doesn't mean you get shot.
By that logic, do Republicans own the shooting of the two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota?
Here she panics.
I love this.
Isn't this on both sides?
Are you kidding me?
No, I'm asking you to say that.
We don't know what condition Charlie Kirk is in right now.
No, you're right.
A raging leftist lunatic put a bullet through his neck, and you want to talk about Republicans right now?
No.
No, I'm asking you.
No, not at all.
You said the Democrats are going to vote.
But Democrats.
And now she's going to talk over him until.
But is it not a problem with political violence across the spectrum?
Yeah, we're talking about Charlie Kirk right now.
That's the subject of this.
We're talking about.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Crazy take from Nancy Mace.
Yeah, unsurprising, though.
I mean, like, this is how all these lunatics talk all the time, and it's never.
Like you said, they'll never take responsibility for it.
And they're like, the fact, you know, obviously, here's the thinking Charlie Kirk died today.
Who would kill Charlie Kirk?
But not somebody on our own side, but it would be obviously somebody on the other side who are, because we live in a binary, a Democrat.
And Democrats must own this issue because they killed Charlie Kirk.
They did this.
It's not so clear, though, right?
Like maybe they.
Being Nancy Mace's party might be more closely associated with this.
Maybe like the America First Party.
No, no, no.
This is the Democrats, purely Democrats.
They, the Democrats, would have to do the capital D Democrats.
This is what's going on there.
I mean, the problem is it's not so clear.
Tyler Robinson, his whole family seems to be.
Democrat.
Well, fairly conservative, actually.
Yeah.
Oh, you couldn't tell from his sunglasses?
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Oh, listen.
Or, like, you know.
Well, how about that?
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