Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 70: ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT STEVEN CROWDER? (JULY 24TH, 2025)

Aug. 10, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 70: ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT STEVEN CROWDER? (JULY 24TH, 2025)

This week we witness a mental gymnastic feat that if not for our continuous research of Steven, would have been hard to believe. This Epstein thing ain't going away, and Trump is certainly sus...but that doesn't mean he's not actually a hero. CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE Hat (for folks who like hats). Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Theme music by DJ Danarchy

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	We're all child molester supporters.
	Welcome to Ladder Than Crowder of Alpha.
	Sorry, I just tried a new button.
	What is that?
	It's a new Gerald I collected.
	There's this one.
	Of course.
	And then also, what's this?
	That one.
	But then I got this new one here.
	That one's like sexual.
	It is sexual.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm the ladder than Crowder podcast about the podcast ladder with Crowder.
	My name, of course, is Byron.
	I'm joined this morning.
	I wrote insert observation.
	Dennis is back.
	Sipping on a Red Bull.
	Okay, thanks for bringing me one.
	Yeah, dude.
	And our lone star brother in occupied Texas in his old studio.
	for the last time, it's Jared.
	Is Jared getting killed?
	No, he's moved.
	It's okay.
	He got doxxed, so.
	Did you find that?
	Now I got a move.
	Well, it was during the Campus Boys episode.
	Yeah, Campus Boys episode.
	I said, that's my neighbor, man.
	Oh, shit.
	And people went door to door.
	doing ding dong bitch yeah they knocked on yeah everyone and they and then when they figured out it was me it was lit shit bags it was what else are they doing uh splashing paint or something i don't know throwing paint at me they were doing uh they would hold out a button and and shock me when i press it like a clap I could quit it.
	Okay, we'd go to shake your hand and it'd be a buzzer in there.
	Oh, and then it didn't.
	A buzzer.
	Yeah, the buzzer hand.
	That's what I'm thinking of.
	And maybe I'm thinking of the flower at the same time.
	Yeah, with the water.
	Honestly, you're fed up.
	I'm done with it.
	And now I'm moving.
	Good.
	Two blocks north.
	Okay.
	You want to keep sitting here.
	I thought you were going to.
	Expand the perimeter of the search.
	Maybe another time.
	I'm going to Fort Head.
	And joining the military.
	You guys...
	No, he's not.
	At first, he was kind of almost like running on, releasing the list, bringing all those sick-o-pedophiles to justice and yeah the storm's coming dude it was but now it feels almost like he's uh he's panicking and saying that it's like a hoax that everyone who cares about it is stupid and even worse helping the democrats the demon rat why would they help them he can't believe that we're still talking about Epstein that creep at the same time he's bringing up things like Russia
	Russia Russia and Obama I love talking about Obama huh Stephen and the gang aren't immune to this bizarre scared energy and that's why today we'll be talking about the July 24th 2025 episode of Louder with Crowder is Trump confirmed to be on the Epstein list?
	What the hell is going on?
	What the hell?
	I think I actually might have listened to this one a little bit.
	Really?
	What the hell is going on?
	We will get into it.
	I'm excited.
	I didn't know it was going on myself.
	Yeah.
	You know, this is my first time hearing about the list.
	Sure.
	And so I'm excited to see what it's about.
	Running on it or running away from it?
	The list in general.
	I've never heard of the list.
	It's not even like why I voted for him releasing the list.
	Why I voted for him is because I wanted to pay more taxes to the people on the list.
	Exactly.
	I wanted tariffs.
	I wanted to pay more in tariffs and then get a rebate on my tariffs.
	It's like a mail-in rebate.
	America's mail-in rebate.
	It's like making making more money but in a more complicated well it's like making the same amount of money in a more complicated way yeah exactly yeah it's got to exchange hands more take it out of one pocket and put it in the other if they remember that you gave them money they're gonna love that that's true you know that's very true even if i gave you the money first as long as you give it back after a while i gave you 2 000 and you gave me 600 back like that's a pretty good deal for me it feels good to give man honestly it's like it's charity for us Come on.
	It's personal charity.
	We're supposed to be paying big taxes to the people on the Epstein list.
	That's what I voted for.
	What the hell is going on?
	We'll get into it after, of course, we take a second to thank some of the folks who are supporting us over at shrug.club.
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	Did he?
	We didn't upload the pictures.
	Yeah, there's a big spot.
	Wow.
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	They've gone away.
	When I was in Montana, Dennis, I got something bit me.
	Something bit me.
	It's all for free and it always will be, but some folks said they choose to support us financially.
	The Shrug Rats.
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	There is no way that we're adding the Shrug Rats.
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	Do we have a Rug Rats theme song?
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	We appreciate them quite a bit.
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	All right.
	Hey, I'm Jakey here.
	Shitbag hack.
	Oh, ho, ho, ho.
	Wow.
	Shitbag hack, Jakey.
	Wow.
	Well, actually.
	What a piece of shit.
	Of course.
	Yes.
	And then Kitso.
	Kitso.
	You're just in a shower.
	Kitso, you're knocking it out of the park.
	I want, I'm going to throw you a pitch.
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	Kitso.
	You piece of shit.
	Grand slam.
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	Yeah, actually, I, I don't know if you know this, but I determine how funny I'm going to be based on how much money I get in my account.
	So if I'm having a bad day, it means I don't have any money.
	That's why Kevin Hart's so funny.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's the funniest.
	He's very wealthy.
	He's got a lot of money.
	A lot of money makes him very funny.
	That's why we know Trump isn't rich because he's not funny.
	Not a lot of time to think about jokes.
	Wow.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Trump is kind of funny though.
	He can be.
	He's funny in a fucked up way.
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	That one's so good.
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	It's terrible.
	So was the show this week, by the way.
	Yeah, I decided to cut, you know, a big chunk of stuff that they're talking about.
	They actually watch most of a watch mojo video.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Came out two weeks ago it has about 200,000 views.
	Okay.
	Which I don't know how well that is for watchmojo.com.
	Yeah, it feels like it's kind of a mid mid mid.
	Yeah.
	Ten disturbing parallels between 1930s Germany and 2020s USA.
	Great.
	I bet that they were open-minded about those two.
	They just said that because there was no Jacob Chansley at one of the insurrection-style events, it was different.
	It's like when you would make that comparison early in Trump's presidency and he would be like, Did he kill 6 million Jews?
	Okay, well, Taylor didn't start with that, man.
	We all know Stephen and his relationship with Candace Owens, the person that after he had separated from his wife he tried to flirt with at a live event for the daily wire remember that i don't remember that i vaguely do yeah she called him out right she called him out and he that's amazing yeah calling her out after she is that why you wanted her to come on debate or whatever probably yeah i think i mean there's always been some sort of tension between Steven and his wife.
	If he thinks it's sexual, she thinks it's perverted.
	Yeah, I mean, she's clearly not a fan.
	did give him flowers after the, not literal, after the Nashville manifesto leaking, I guess.
	She also It's a term, giving them their flowers.
	Like giving them praise?
	Yeah.
	She said that Stephen paid the officers who leaked the information in the Nashville Manifesto, accused him of that, just like she accused Emmanuel Macron's wife of being transgender, and she's now actively being sued by Macron's.
	Stephen decided to call her out on that.
	We're not going to be covering any of that.
	Mostly what we're going to be talking about is Stephen playing the old cope game.
	Copium baby.
	He's an addict, has all the details of Trump being in the Epstein fight.
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly is coming out.
	So that's mostly what the focus is going to be today.
	Okay.
	We're going to talk about a lot today.
	Because you guys asked me to discuss this and We were on, you know, that two-week break for all of us, Epstein.
	And the new information has come out.
	I'm going to get into what it is that the media is trying to do versus what is actually true.
	The handling has been bad.
	I think we all acknowledge that.
	Glad he acknowledges that.
	Too bad he refuses to accept the fact that people might think that he's on a two-week break.
	Even every year, this is the third year that he's done this.
	He's like, we took two weeks off of just one week for me though.
	Yeah, because he's always like, I was in the studio doing repairs and like getting ready for the new season.
	I know he was.
	Yeah, well, I don't know if he was or not, but who fucking cares, dude?
	Like, what, they think you made may have taken seven additional days?
	I took two weeks off, but I didn't stop fighting for you.
	I fought for you every single day.
	Yeah, he also said he's going to put in a shooting range, an indoor shooting range in his studio now.
	So great use of those bucks.
	That makes sense.
	Mug club.
	All this rumble money, I can discharge a gun inside my house now.
	So listen, guys, I was looking through my credit card statement.
	Oh, no.
	I've been paying for a rumble premium for five months.
	Not great.
	Oh.
	That's the real problem here.
	Yeah, use promo code Epstein.
	Save $10.
	Use promo code.
	So Dennis hasn't heard last week's episode they really did that by the way in 2019 yeah they had a promo code Epstein during the Epstein didn't hang himself live stream oh cool cool cool yeah I did use promo code Epstein of course and I tried promo code hitler whoa no but actually gave you for free 25 for some friends and family wow yeah it sucks uh top 10 oh yeah of course Of course it's no surprise if Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
	We have a call that I said of course he would be because he was the one who cooperated with authorities.
	Okay.
	The media wants you to think where there's smoke, there's fire.
	No one is making the claim that Donald Trump was buddies for a long time or did anything untoward with Epstein.
	It's important that you're able to see the strategy that they use and how to be able to look at it critically.
	Also, Donald Trump is not Hitler.
	Yeah.
	He's closer to Epstein though, allegedly.
	Yes.
	I really, really love that.
	Like a couple blocks.
	Yeah.
	I really love that Stephen's starting the angle of like, yeah, of course he's in the finals because he was the guy who, like he was undercover.
	He, and this is not the first time you'll say this, and this won't, There is no evidence Trump was deposed or went to authorities or did anything of the sort surrounding Epstein.
	No.
	At all.
	He's not some sort of secret agent.
	He wasn't like undercover diddling.
	Yeah, right.
	You're gonna have to get a blowjob from a 16 year old girl.
	Can you handle that?
	No.
	He's on a plane with sunglasses.
	He's got a earpiece.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He's Tom Cruise being a cop.
	You have to tell me if you're a cop before I suck a dig.
	Lowered down from the ceiling onto a child.
	Yeah, right.
	Like, what are we doing?
	Absolutely not.
	Absolutely not.
	Trump would spill the beans if he was ever an informant.
	Well, he would accidentally do it and then twist it around.
	Exactly.
	Kind of what he's doing now.
	What a terrible dip shit.
	And then we do a sip and start the show.
	That was the preamble, of course.
	That was just setting you up for what to expect.
	Oh, Dennis is doing a little sip thing everyone take a sip and at home I don't have any sip buttons everyone out there fake news and I understand this has been an issue it's really the era of due diligence I'm glad to see that media legacy media is done that it's dying It pretty much is dead at this point and everyone's urinating on the ashes,
	but we now find ourselves at the point where people have realized there's a new market and it's getting oversaturated and people are happy to lie to you so long as they get clicks.
	So really it's more important than ever for you to do your due diligence and I think it's more important than ever for us to expect those broadcasting to do their due diligence and also to get their headphones working right.
	It's kind of a mess.
	I can't figure it out.
	Their headphones, Steven.
	You just plug them in.
	Yeah, and then you turn the volume up or down.
	And you have a team that does it for you.
	Yeah, like I do it before the show.
	You see me adjust it maybe six times.
	I'd like to fiddle with knobs and then we start.
	Yeah.
	You know, I really appreciate that Steven has this attitude and he always has.
	Oh, of course.
	He's always been really focused on making sure that he doesn't ever post the wrong picture of someone who's not actually a killer and then get sued for it.
	Of course not.
	He doesn't want to do that.
	I mean, no.
	He would never do that, right?
	Due diligence.
	His middle name is Due Diligence.
	Steven Due Diligence Crowder.
	Yes, and he went to school for that.
	Media school.
	He went to media school.
	Remember?ember.
	And also he's taking this as an opportunity to exclusively point people in his direction saying anyone else saying anything else is wrong.
	And he's the compass of truth.
	I am the truth.
	Dude diligence.
	I'm trying to find a way to say that.
	I like dude diligence.
	All right.
	Kind of a cool guy.
	What would be required for you to be satisfied with the sort of response, the handling of the Epstein files?
	If they were to be released with certain names redacted, or places, you know, information redacted that protects the innocent, meaning it only provides the information of those who willingly engaged in sex.
	Would that be enough?
	Do you need everything at this point where nothing is redacted?
	I really just think they should deliver what it is that they promised.
	I mean, legally they can say, well, we're not allowed to do that.
	Well, then you shouldn't have promised it.
	That's the primary issue here.
	And I understand why you guys are upset.
	It doesn't mean that you're anti-Maga.
	It doesn't mean that you're anti-Trump.
	It doesn't mean that you're no longer a conservative.
	If you are a conservative, if you are a Republican, if you are a Trump voter who thought that you would get the Epstein files because you were told that you would, and then you thought that you would because Pam Bondi said that they were on her desk and you would, it's okay that you're upset when you are now being told by the same people that the only folks who care about it are Democrats.
	Hey!
	We're crying.
	I love the very first part of that when he's like, what would it take for you to be satisfied?
	I feel like it's like the opening of like a therapy session.
	It's like just that clip alone.
	I've never had a therapy session.
	What would it take for you to be satisfied, Byron?
	Listen, now in general.
	I gotta sit and think with that for a little bit.
	I got about 45 minutes.
	Jared, what would make you satisfied?
	Like right now?
	Just in general.
	A bacon, egg, and cheese, probably.
	I think that could go for a while.
	A McGriddle?
	What?
	A McGriddle.
	McGriddle is like too much.
	Yeah, that's sweet.
	I did want a pancake this morning, and I went out to the spot around the corner that has pancakes sometimes wait sometimes yeah what if like in a restaurant is like you go and you're not sure because i they weren't there but i well like okay i went in one time right i actually i've been in a lot of times sometimes there's people making food in there and is this someone's house it kind of feels like that it has that sort of ours yeah sounds nice names redacted
	is useless in releasing any sort of documents like if you redact all the names or just the people who willingly participated i mean what does that mean didn't we just find out that the FBI is like redacting names on the list.
	Yeah, I was going to talk about that.
	They did fully redact all of Trump at least.
	Yeah, anytime that his name showed up.
	Why would they redact the parts where he was the hero who jumped out of helicopter and shot up everyone?
	Yeah, when he's being lowered down from a rope ladder.
	Yeah.
	He's like getting back his massage girls from Mar-a-Lago.
	When you get a flying squirrel suit, Landon.
	Just shooting a bunch of pedophiles.
	Trump's in the squirrel suit, I just have to imagine his face is like doing that like ring-pike.
	His neck is flying.
	His little nussy just flapping around.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Oh, it would be terrifying.
	Just an extra foot of skin behind me.
	Yeah.
	You know what I really love about this clip was that basically Stephen's like, hey, listen, you're not going to get kicked out of the cult.
	You can still be, dude.
	You can still want the list and Trump will still love you.
	It's okay.
	Don't worry, man.
	You can.
	I know that the cult is like about this, but you can still be in the cult and still hate pedophiles.
	It's okay.
	And we're going to talk a lot more about this, but before that, we got one other story that they covered that they think is really funny, and it's not.
	Really quickly, this is funny.
	It's another deportation story.
	Oh, yes.
	All sorts of.
	But this one has a twist.
	But it's funny though.
	It's funny.
	It's not sad.
	None of them are sad to me.
	Oh.
	So.
	This one made me so fucking mad when I listened to it.
	Oh, you did listen to it.
	I did listen to it.
	Oh, wow.
	Jared, the rules are reversed.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I listened to just this one because the whole time I wanted to hear Stephen's take on Epstein.
	That's what I was wanting to hear for a while because he was like conveniently out.
	And when I heard this, fuck, this makes me so mad.
	Jared, you didn't listen to this episode, right?
	Welcome to the D-seat.
	Yeah, we flipped it.
	Flipped it in reverse.
	All right, I'm locked in.
	I stopped listening after this.
	Okay.
	Well, you're about to drive your car into a ravine.
	So this recipient of DACA, gross, Eric Hernandez made a wrong turn during an Uber trip, And that may be his last Uber trip.
	Picture this.
	You're driving down the freeway to drop somebody off at the border when you miss an exit.
	And then another one.
	And then all of a sudden, you're accidentally in Mexico.
	That's what Eric Hernandez says happened to him.
	But here's the problem.
	He's a DACA recipient, so that one mistake means he's now detained and about to be deported.
	He's now a rideshare driver and was taking passengers from LA to the border in San Isidro when he missed his exit and ended up in Tijuana.
	Why was he taking them?
	What happened?
	He lost everything, basically.
	His attorney, Valerie Sagamini, says...
	Pause.
	He lost everything by going back to the country, being detained in the country, whose flag he likely flies.
	No, Eric Hernandez actually came to the U.S. from El Salvador.
	But interesting...
	Doesn't matter, dude.
	What?
	Doesn't matter.
	Immigrants come from Mexico.
	Wait, excuse me?
	Okay.
	He's been here for almost...
	Only the bad ones come from Mexico.
	The good ones come from the white countries.
	Yikes.
	El Salvador?
	I don't know enough about El Salvador to know if it's white or brown.
	El Salvador never met Or.
	Wait what?
	Come on guys.
	So Eric Hernandez Rodriguez, he's missed a turn and then accidentally crossed into Mexico from San Diego.
	He's a ride share driver.
	He was taking a couple folks back from a soccer game to as close to the border as they could get.
	I imagine that they were coming over from Mexico to watch a soccer game in San Diego.
	Sure.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	I feel like that happens a lot.
	Plenty of people cross in and out of Mexico and the U.S. daily for fun.
	Yeah, it's like when you live up in northern Washington, you might pop into Canada.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a totally normal thing.
	People cross the border daily all the time.
	And Eric Hernandez, he missed an exit and then the U-turn lane was blocked by a police officer who pulled someone over on the left side and he accidentally crossed into Mexico.
	The country he's from.
	I did a little bit of research.
	I'm forgetting.
	I keep being racist again.
	It's an unmanned entry point for the most part.
	It just kind of scans your license plate and you roll in and customs just waves you through.
	Unless it pops a flag.
	This isn't, yeah, exactly.
	This isn't the kind of case where it's like you have to stop, present information, talk to someone every time.
	This is just like an in and out kind of situation.
	Well, I think people realize that in a lot of places there might be like a border check that's farther into the country a little bit.
	Yeah, you know, after you've already crossed the line.
	Yeah, it's not like there's a specific line that like the building, like the front half of the building is staffed by by Americans and the back half is staffed by Mexicans.
	It's not like that.
	But they all share a bathroom.
	And I think that's like a really positive thing to be thinking.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	The toilet is like right in the middle of the thing.
	Yeah.
	Well, I like it.
	It's like surrounded.
	Yeah.
	It's like surrounded.
	It's like surrounded.
	We got Cenk coming up, by the way.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, that'll be interesting.
	It sure will.
	That'll be.
	Today's episode, right?
	Oh, it dropped today.
	Today's episode, for sure.
	Let's keep playing.
	Prior approval to leave the US.
	And when he tried to come back, she says the Americans at the border asked him for a bribe.
	Oh, come on.
	At one point, one of the famous pronounced Mexican.
	Well, if you pay us $800, we'll forgive everything.
	and we'll let you into the United States without any cash.
	She says Hernandez was placed in expedited removal.
	He's now at Otay Mesa Detention Center with an order of deportation.
	Yeah.
	So the lesson here is always travel with cash.
	Or at Zelle.
	Yeah.
	Because let's just play, honestly, you really buy like, Do any of us question that the Mexican authorities are corrupt?
	That's how it works there is bribery.
	I'm sure it happens here every now and then.
	I've greased a few palms to get out of citations.
	Didn't work.
	Turns out you need more than a fiver.
	So you haven't greased a few.
	Or at least Zelle is the dumbest joke I've ever heard my entire life.
	It's pretty bad.
	It's terrible.
	What were you saying?
	I've tried to grease a few palms.
	It's like, well, then if they didn't accept the money, then you didn't actually grease any palms.
	Totally.
	You had a wet $5 bill because you were nervous that you got pulled over.
	You pulled it out of your wet bra.
	Yeah.
	Summer cash.
	The fact that they think that there's not bribes that happen amongst regular police officers, It's really unfortunate.
	Yeah, it happens.
	Yeah, true.
	Cops are good.
	They would never do that here.
	If it's bad, would a cop do it?
	No.
	Well, they mispronounced Mexican when they're talking about the other authorities.
	Oh, did any other guy?
	Yeah, it's called El Mexicador, right?
	Because that's where he's from.
	Yeah, dude, that's where he's from, for sure.
	Now, here's the reality.
	Everything is a sob story.
	I one time almost accidentally ended up in Mexico driving across the country.
	The good news is I didn't, because there are many, many, many, many signs warning you that you are approaching the last United States exit.
	And then that's Chess Cyclone 5.
	That's in San Diego only.
	That's one free route.
	Right.
	And if you can't read that because you're in a country and don't speak the official language, the good news is, unless you're blind, which I hope is not the case if you're an Uber driver, when you get to the border, there are giant whistling loud U turns.
	terms so you can see those two they couldn't be like uh additionally if you can't read uh in english luckily mexico is spelled the same in spanish that's true it's spelled exactly the same arrows are exactly the same in all languages yeah also at the border there's a big fun sign that says mexico in red white and green yes right and often a flag Yeah, it's a big one.
	It's in the back of the house.
	Yeah, they should have one.
	It's their country.
	They have flags sometimes.
	Which you don't see elsewhere.
	Different colors.
	Yeah.
	So it's not red, white, and blue.
	We know that the Uber driver was trying to take these people as close to the border as possible.
	Yeah, they don't.
	They didn't care.
	Well, of course.
	But that, I mean, that's the point of what this was.
	Yeah.
	If police block the U turn after the exit.
	And it is possible to accidentally go into Mexico.
	You're talking about the American's block.
	Stephen just said he almost did.
	And I actually, I know he was being sarcastic too.
	I found a YouTube video talking about this specific border, walking us through the process of entry.
	There is no giant Welcome to Mexico sign at this point.
	Yeah.
	It floats in the air.
	No.
	Americans can see it.
	Yeah, they have a bunch of crop dusters that just go through with big border Welcome to Mexico.
	You see the yellow wall.
	No, wait, the yellow wall.
	Like how everything in Mexico is yellowow, you know?
	No, I've never heard.
	It's like the classic, like movies in Mexico were always color graded all yellow.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Huh?
	It changes.
	Yeah, yeah, the CPA tone.
	Yeah.
	It's a horror country look.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They put the little filter on and everything they're saying here, just they're painting the story the way that they think it is in their racist minds.
	Yeah, and people who live in fucking Kentucky, the middle of America, who've never been near the border, will be like, yeah, yeah, it's not easy to accidentally enter Mexico.
	It is.
	It is.
	And honestly, all of that said, like, did they really believe that a DACA recipient should not be allowed to re-enter the country because they accidentally crossed the border?
	That's the thing that blows my mind about all this is like to me DACA is like the most like clear-cut like these are kids their parents brought them over They had no control over coming to the country legally.
	Yeah, let them hang out.
	Let them be I had no control over being coming to America.
	Well, Eric, he's been here for almost 20 years.
	Yeah, and they think how old was he?
	34.
	34.
	Okay, so yeah, he was a teenager.
	He didn't be like, hey, mom, let's go into the U.S. It just doesn't make any sense.
	It makes sense if you're racist.
	And if you have zero empathy, you think that if the place you lived for 20 years, you accidentally leave and now you live somewhere else that you've never been.
	That's like you live in a house and then step out your back door and forget your keys and go, guess I don't sell the house.
	Well, you don't have to sell the house.
	You just have to abandon it.
	Just someone else lives there now.
	MF Doom.
	That's what happened to him.
	Really?
	Rest in peace, by the way.
	His house was taken.
	RIP Doomalay.
	So he was touring, I want to say, UK or Paris.
	He comes back to New York.
	And at customs, they checked him and they were like, actually, you're not an American citizen.
	And he's like, what are you talking about?
	I've lived here my entire life.
	And it turns out that his parents, like, he was born in the uk his parents brought him here and he just was never naturalized or whatever oh no and okay so they they were just like you can't come back and so like he lived in brooklyn like his entire life i mean he was like in his 40s when he passed away yeah that's wild do you guys know where you were born do you guys have i mean i've been here yeah are you sure yeah is that your mom told you i have a birth certificate and actually i just looked at it recently and it says uh eric hernandez on it oh no
	no no i think we just body swapped i think that we we we got sketched at birth oh damn dude that's crazy so now the u.s government is saying that he self-deported because he crossed the border.
	He's currently being detained and they're saying that He has no right to come back to the United States to see his wife.
	He's recently got married.
	He has a child and one more on the way.
	His wife is pregnant.
	They think this is hilarious.
	It's the most fucking racist piece of shit.
	This made me so mad.
	It made me so fucking mad.
	Especially because it's a DACA recipient.
	DACA is the most clear cut, like, morally fine thing.
	I don't know how anyone can.
	Yeah, they're trying to get rid of it now.
	Yeah, it's insane to me.
	So either he's lying or you deport him for being an idiot.
	Either way, I don't want him bringing me my DoorDash.
	So I feel like this problem solved itself, Stephen.
	I really do.
	Resolved on its own.
	Where do you trap the passengers?
	Yeah.
	You're just like, hey, keep going.
	Yeah, where is it?
	Closer, closer.
	Like, I'm going to go in Mexico.
	Like, yes.
	Yeah.
	That's where we want to go.
	Exactly.
	Maybe that's why.
	Maybe he's like, oh, I see the UTER.
	And they're like, I saw the UTER.
	No.
	No.
	We're going to Donkey Show.
	Uber said they're Uber said they're doing this new thing where they're letting women choose not to have a male driver.
	Yeah.
	Or letting women drivers choose not to have male passengers.
	I wonder if you can choose not to have a DACA recipient driver.
	Yeah.
	Or not choose Asians.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, oh, hmm.
	I heard this.
	I really loved Josh's like, oh shit about like the Asian comment.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's like, oh wait, we're being racist towards Asians.
	Sexism is fine.
	That's totally fine.
	You know, against general brown people is fine.
	But yeah, when Steven, that's the line he crosses.
	Oh, no.
	Or Asian.
	Oh, oh, oh, shit, oh.
	Yeah, Uber, by the way, they are allowing female Uber drivers, passengers as well, say preferences for gender.
	Yeah, totally.
	And this was after, this is just a statistic between 2021 and 2022, 2717 sexual assault incidents involving female Uber passengers and drivers.
	It is a problem and this is a solution.
	It's a solution, yeah.
	And it's not that big of a deal.
	It's not at all.
	No, he can't fathom the fact that women might want to protect themselves from men.
	Holy shit, that's crazy.
	Well, I want a hot driver though.
	Even though I don't think they can drive, I'll offer to drive their car.
	And then they'll think I'm a hero, and that's cool.
	It makes me feel good about my scheme.
	He opens the door for the Uber driver.
	I'm getting out.
	I'm getting shivery.
	out.
	And Tim was really so close to understanding this story, though.
	Clearly, the passengers were from Mexico, right?
	Yeah.
	And all they could think about was that cliche Mexicans.
	Yeah, let's go to a donkey show.
	That's it.
	And they loved that bit, apparently.
	It's so funny.
	Yeah, when the donkey's penis unravels, dude.
	And now all the boys are cheering.
	This is our relationship to Mexico.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	It does suck.
	And there is actually a GoFundMe for Eric Hernandez, and I think we'll put a link to that in the show notes of this episode.
	What's that right now?
	Not enough.
	I feel like their joke around the GoFundMe would be something like, and we're setting up a GoFundMe to take money from his GoFundMe.
	It's just some more harebrained-ass shit.
	Just dumb fuck shit.
	They would probably cover it very quickly because unfortunately Eric's fight against deportation GoFundMe only is raised $1,671 really yeah Is it too late for us to donate our extra money from our thing to the club?
	Yeah, I mean, we could probably do another month of it.
	Yeah, for all the Shrug Club money.
	That one Connor guy who's a fascist guy is he's at $40,000 now.
	Yeah, so that's cool.
	And then the N-Word ladies.
	She didn't hit a million.
	She didn't hit a million, no, she's a little under 900,000.
	If she invested, she'd beat a million.
	Definitely look into this more and consider supporting Eric's fight against deportation, because this is ridiculous.
	It's an American married to an American, and he's got a daughter and a son on the way.
	This is just disgusting and also fucking hilarious.
	It's funny, dude.
	If he had Zell, though.
	This guy who he's working really hard.
	He's driving way far out of his way to the border of the United States for an Uber ride.
	And then Steven saying, one less brown guy to bring me my DoorDash.
	Yeah.
	Seriously, go fuck yourself.
	Why don't people understand it.
	I work 900 hours a week and these liberals don't even want to change my bedsheets once.
	It's bullshit.
	They decide to move away from that onto, you know, trying to find a way to make this Epstein thing okay.
	Okay.
	We're going to get to their handling of it, which I don't think is very good.
	But I want you to understand the media playbook here.
	What the media playbook does, so before this, they released this story that Donald Trump was buddy-buddy with Epstein and sent him a birthday letter, which is false, and Donald Trump's likely going to win that lawsuit.
	I don't think he's going to win it.
	I don't think Rupert Murdoch or the Wall Street Journal.
	The record of truth, Byron.
	I don't think that they would be publishing things even after.
	Even after the explicit threats from both Trump and his press secretary ahead of its publication, I don't think they would have done it if they didn't have proof or evidence of this book.
	The Department of Justice has proof of this book.
	It's rumored that the Epstein estate is the ones who actually have the birthday book.
	I don't know if that's good or bad, but...
	He's just saying that he doesn't feel like it's real.
	Donald Trump said it is.
	No, because Donald Trump said it wasn't real.
	So does he understand that by suing to say it's not real, it'll, like, it'll speed up the fact that it'll get out?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Donald Trump is now subject to discovery.
	And it's pretty clear that someone's going to have to release this information.
	And I know Congress has requested this from the Department of Justice as well.
	Yeah, well, he doesn't realize that you cannot prove something didn't happen or doesn't exist.
	You just can't prove that.
	So all that he's doing is giving the opportunity for it to be proved.
	My good friend Ghislaine.
	Well, yeah, they do hang.
	I've given her a pardon.
	We're having a freak off with Diddy later.
	You're not invited.
	And the truth will come to light.
	We're on a live stream.
	Just shouting.
	Let them know we got a skidaddle.
	Uh oh.
	Somebody said skidaddle.
	Let's get the hell out of here.
	They dropped a smoke bomb and Ghislaine, Diddy, Trump, Dershowitz.
	They're all holding on to each other's ankles.
	Well, a helicopter comes down.
	They just flood out of the room like a fucking human ladder.
	They're like, they were the original inspiration for the sequel to Now You See Me.
	Right?
	We're pulling inspo.
	We're just over here being like the media, right?
	Yeah.
	We're just goofing, right?
	Here's what the media does.
	They go, all right, there's going to be something true out there, but it's not enough.
	So now we need to create a backstory to make it credible.
	Okay.
	In other words, we're going to have someone who's insane, who named her cat Vagina, who has accused 26 men of rape, who says that, so we know she doesn't have the credibility, so let's just have a bunch of other women come forward with unsubstantiated claims that we can drip in the media so that people conflate the two and go, where there's smoke, there's fire.
	Donald Trump is a civilly liable rapist.
	Well, that's not true, though.
	A jury.
	Yeah.
	A jury.
	12 people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, are you gonna say peers?
	I mean, his peers.
	They're not my peers.
	Oh, is that what he says?
	I don't know.
	I would imagine.
	Yeah, I mean.
	There's 12 people in that room that disagree with those other 12.
	Oh, true.
	Yeah.
	You have to convince everybody.
	It has to be unanimous.
	That's going to be what Trump's going to try and fight for.
	Unanimous for all juries.
	Like unanimous from the whole world, the whole country.
	Everyone text.
	one 784 230 did trump rape her all right well standard to sms rates apply yeah so of course he's talking about eugene carroll saying that she named her uh cat vagina and also made other illusions to being raped during her life and that makes her accounts about Donald Trump less likely.
	I looked into this a little bit.
	Cat's name is Vagina.
	I don't know if that's true or not.
	That's what it's called.
	It wouldn't matter.
	It wouldn't matter at all.
	It doesn't make you less...
	Does Steve have pets?
	Yeah.
	Do you know their names are?
	Cancer Dog and then.
	Other Cancer Dog.
	Gun.
	Joe Lewis.
	Boxer.
	And then Hopper, remember?
	Joe Luce is a boxer, right?
	Yeah, a pit bull.
	But Hopper died in 2019.
	I remember that episode.
	He was terribly sad about it.
	Yeah, sure.
	Well, I mean, it's fine.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	My wife, she wouldn't say it that.
	Wouldn't touch the dog's asshole.
	No, but the 21 hideous men's comment by E. Jean Carroll is from her memoir, What Do We Need Men For?
	A Modest Proposal.
	It was discussing moments in her life, 21 times that men had been sexually inappropriate or abusive or treated her cruelly with violence through her life i would say that that's probably common and that's the sad part Yeah, it seems like for someone her age that, yeah, maybe there are that many times that people had, you know, taken advantage of her.
	Yeah, and she can also be being pretty liberal with that definition, but I honestly, like, think about, like, I'm not saying that she hasn't used it.
	Yeah, I was going to say just think about, like, you could say that somebody slapping your ass is like that.
	Somebody saying a comment is that.
	Touching you, touching anything.
	But in this case, it's a lot to women.
	She was attacked in an elevator, someone strangled her once, she was attempted rape at knife points, a camp counselor molested her when she was twelve, a television publicist attacked her in a car, a mob boss apparently tried to use their power of coercion against her.
	Like these are not all rape accounts, but they are like all substantial sexual assaults or, you know, general assaults or threats.
	I bet if you asked any woman and there was no pressure of any kind and they were like they could freely speak their minds.
	They could reflect ten to twenty times that something like that happened.
	Totally.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it happens to a lot of people, not just women, but like men too.
	But like just this week, some random customer made a disgusting remark towards my wife.
	That happens.
	Yeah, it happens.
	It's gross and it's awful.
	Yeah.
	But it doesn't make a true sexual assaults allegation less true.
	Yeah, it doesn't at all.
	But that's what Steven meant.
	And it was also reviewed by fucking a jury, dude.
	Listen, Party of Law and Order, right?
	Yep, exactly.
	I'd like to run you through a hypothetical.
	Picture this.
	Let's say you are a famous person.
	All right.
	And let's say you got, I don't know, you got cited for literacy.
	Very cool.
	Okay.
	And let's say that you, as a young man, you got into a bar fight with a buddy.
	All right, so here's what happens.
	They go, okay, we want to falsely accuse you of rape.
	Now we know we're not going to win this in court.
	We know there's no substantiation.
	We know that there's nothing there.
	But what we're going to do now, since we know we're going to release this in six months' time, is we're going to bring out look littering, look bar fight, looks, look at this, ex girlfriends or ex enemies, so that when this false story or completely unsubstantiated story comes out, you go, well, I guess where there's smoke, there's fire.
	Only they're the one creating the fire.
	This is the playbook.
	And I want to separate what is very likely versus the poisoning of the well that the media dug.
	It's all the media's fault here, yeah.
	And also, is that the scale?
	You hear me, Tom Cruise?
	You're going to have to jump off six more Dubai towers to fucking beat these allegations.
	You've got to keep the industry going at this point.
	Yeah.
	If Tom Cruise stops making movies, then popcorn, no one's going to buy that stuff, right?
	Remember when he tried to eat it?
	Now all the kids are doing that.
	They're eating popcorn like Tom Cruise.
	Yeah.
	It's honestly an unfortunate trend and it needs to stop.
	Well, we got to get him back jumping off these towers.
	We got to get him on the roof of a tall building.
	Oh, wait.
	Come on.
	What is crazy to me is that Steven thinks that he acts like Trump doesn't have any negative real history.
	Like, it's not like this is littering.
	This is he was legitimately determined to have committed rape by a jury.
	Do you want to talk about smoke with Trump though?
	There's so much of it.
	He groped someone on a flight.
	He said I'm going to be dating that girl in ten years.
	Of course.
	I go in all the time to the Miss Universe and see the nicotines was.
	Yeah, Miss Utah said that he kissed her directly on the lips repeatedly without consent.
	He said when you're a star you can do anything grab them by the pussy.
	He said that.
	He did.
	I don't think he denied that, right?
	Right.
	This wasn't like a single littering thing or a single bar fight.
	And a bar fight's a pretty big deal.
	Well, with a buddy, though, said Steven.
	Oh, okay, with a buddy.
	If you're something, you're friends, it's fine.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	They were shooting a YouTube prank together.
	And that is fun.
	Me and Vitaly were in a tussle.
	Yeah.
	Now, this is just...
	Now one of us is in fucking prison in another country.
	Vitaly's lost 50 pounds because he...
	Can't lift anymore?
	No, he's in the Philippines.
	he remember that week he was going nut so in the Philippines yeah now he's still there yeah geez let's pardon vitali hasn't gotten to leave we got to pardon vitali guys.
	I feel like all the media is baiting Trump and be like, would you pardon so and so?
	Like, he'll pardon anybody.
	Yeah, let's go back to this dumb analogy about littering and, um, what did he say?
	Fighting your buddy.
	And that now you can trick, you know, the mainstream public into thinking that that guy is a rapist.
	I don't think that that's really what we're talking about.
	A plus B equals rape.
	Well, if you've littered and you gotten a little tussle in a bar with your friend for YouTube, well, now you're a rapist.
	I can convince anyone.
	Honestly, I'm sold, Steven.
	Great work.
	Yeah.
	First off, it is zero percent surprising that President Trump's name is in the files.
	Of course it would be.
	Yeah, and you might have had a little bit of foresight on that one, Steven.
	no.
	Crowder called it.
	And so the left plays this game.
	Look, connection to Epstein.
	Reported him.
	He may never, I can't definitively say this, but there's a strong chance that Epstein may never have been caught or nothing would have stuck at all if not for Donald Trump.
	I guarantee you he's in the files.
	For that reason, is there another one?
	I doubt it.
	Come let Zoltar tell you more.
	I congratulate the next pitch ball right past the flag.
	We're gonna win the game, I guarantee you.
	files because he was the one person who cooperated with the authorities, kicked him out.
	It would be impossible for him to not be in the files.
	This is not true.
	There is no evidence that Trump ever cooperated with authorities surrounding Jeffrey Epstein.
	Sure.
	And Stephen says that with confidence.
	Of course he does.
	I don't know where he heard you say that.
	He did his due diligence.
	He said due diligence earlier in the show.
	Well, I mean, and I've only done, I don't know, hours of research.
	Is that due diligence, though?
	It's due diligence.
	It's due diligence.
	That's dude diligence.
	That's dude diligence, man.
	That's dude diligence.
	But no, I don't think that Trump has ever gone to say the FBI to talk about this.
	Someone that did though, Maria Farmer, she talked about in a time that she was oggled by Donald Trump, remember?
	Cash Patel's Lazy Eye, is it?
	No.
	She actually urged the FBI to look at Trump's connections to Epstein twice.
	I don't know why they didn't follow up on that.
	Well, she's a lying woman, dude.
	Excuse me?
	Women don't tell the truth.
	That's the thing.
	This is the time when she was in Epstein's Manhattan office and Trump was there.
	He walked in a business suit and stared at her legs.
	Remember that?
	Okay, yeah, yeah, of course.
	She felt already kind of intimidated because it was in a dark office and she was alone with her new boss and, uh, yeah.
	Who was her boss?
	Epstein was her boss, yeah.
	So.
	This is really wild to me to think, to be so delusional that you think Trump is in there because he's like the hero of the Epstein Files.
	Well, and you also have to remember the initial thoughts about Trump and Epstein and the fracture of their relationship in the early 2000s.
	It was always rumored that Trump thought Epstein was a creep because of an inappropriate behavior that he had towards a guest's daughter.
	That was always the thought.
	There was never any, you know, quote from Trump on that.
	There's never any evidence of that.
	But things got cleared up recently when Trump broke down the reason behind his falling out with Epstein.
	Yeah, about how he was taking girls from his spa.
	He kept telling Jeff he can't be taking employees hiring stealing people, I think is what he said.
	Not my 13-year-old.
	You can't be stealing.
	My 13-year-old.
	That is my 13-year-old.
	I found them.
	When questioned about Virginia Jeff Ray, one of the Epstein victims who sadly died by suicide, well, I'm not going to get into conspiracy.
	But yeah.
	You know.
	Not too long ago, he says, I think, yeah, I guess she did work in the spa.
	Yeah, he went from, I don't know.
	Yeah, I do know with certainty.
	I know for sure.
	And then that's when he, quote, kicked him out of a club.
	I didn't want anything to do with him.
	That was many years ago.
	That was before this whole thing.
	Go home, Jeff, you drunk.
	But I will see you tomorrow.
	He didn't give a fuck about the people who were being taken.
	He cared that they were being taken from him.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Steven thinks he's a hero.
	He is a hero.
	He tied a bandana around his head.
	They were sold to me fair and square, Jeff.
	get your dirty filthy paws off my teenagers.
	These are my teens.
	It's disgusting.
	And I think if I was a Trump fan...
	Virginia Jeffrey.
	How quickly he was like, I don't know, to like maybe to yes.
	To yes, of course.
	He's known for sure for a long time.
	Like the clip is like two minutes long.
	It's like every 30 seconds he's like, yeah, let me walk a little further into this.
	It's like, actually, no one's twisting your arm to say this shit.
	He's willingly saying it.
	He's putting it out there.
	This is something that I remember with his fucking syphilitic ass fucking brain, this is something that I can recall still, and they're just gating it out of him.
	That's what I can't understand.
	It's like it's in plain sight.
	We're hearing it.
	He's saying as much.
	Imagine running a spa and you find out that a prolific sex trafficker of children was taking teenage talent from your spa.
	And then imagine caring not about the people.
	And not even feeling like, like, not even running a spa.
	What are those teenagers even doing working here?
	Yeah, but like, imagine, though, like, not, he didn't come forward with that information.
	We've been talking about the whole time like that he's that there's this rumor that he's some sort of underground hero.
	Well, it's like two slave owners arguing over stealing a slave and then you're saying he's not a slave owner, he's a thief.
	Yeah.
	Like if I was a Trump fan, I would look at this moment and be like, Jesus Christ, like, really?
	So you knew the whole time that Jeffrey Epstein was hiring underage.
	Here's what they think.
	They think one of two things.
	They think, A, he was doing it as like some FBI informant bullshit.
	But he didn't know that, yeah.
	Or they think he just thought that this girl was working for Jeff and didn't know Jeff was a pervert.
	But he knew Jeff was a pervert in 2007, though, a couple years later.
	But they don't care about that.
	That's what they're believing in.
	I would feel so complicit to deep shame of supporting that.
	Yeah, but that's not what people who vote for Trump feel ever.
	And that's not what Trump himself feels ever.
	He hired help, and I said, don't ever do that again.
	He stole people that worked for me.
	But my thought would be like full circle, right?
	Like, so this man was like, come He's probably not managing it or something, but it's like, if these girls are like really that young, why are they working there?
	What are they doing?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	All of it.
	of it it's like they they shouldn't be there if they're that young because it seems like a like a spa is like an adult place i mean like teenagers can go to the spa or something but yeah are you like like changing the water out in the cucumber well i mean refreshments or something like all things considered i think there's plenty of reasons for a 16 year old be legitimately working in a spa maybe not though i would say there's plenty of illegitimate reasons for sure yeah there's only a handful of jobs that they could do you couldn't be a masseuse
	at that yeah you couldn't be doing any station or doing any massage therapy or anything like that but you could you could be cleaning you could be running front desks just assume that like as someone that's underage, you wouldn't be touching customers.
	They should work at a hot dog and a stick, though.
	I fully agree.
	I think that's a path that doesn't – Dennis owns a spa.
	I worked at a spa when I was 15.
	That wasn't where I was going to think.
	You're a prolific hirer of miners, is what I was saying.
	No, no.
	All right.
	They're not done playing defense, right?
	Of course not.
	quarter one.
	We're on two and...
	Now, no one is alleging that he's done anything on tour.
	There are going to be a bunch of people in the files, by the way, who didn't necessarily do anything wrong.
	If they were ever introduced to Epstein or before they figured out his game, they'll be in the files.
	Right.
	So first, let me go through the untruths versus what we actually know.
	And then we'll go to the poor handling of it.
	So some of the untruths, the alleged birthday letter, right, to Epstein, the Wall Street Journal, they're being sued.
	It was, as far as we know, confirmed to be fake, confirmed to be inauthentic, and they knew it and ran it anyway.
	That's important to remember for the later case because if you knowingly run information that is not only false, but low confidence and you are irresponsible, you will be held liable.
	The body letter, the birthday letter from Jeff's 50th birthday in 2003, put together by Ghislaine Maxwell.
	Multiple reputable outlets including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, CNN, Routers.
	Routers?
	Reuters.
	Reuters.
	Thank you.
	They've all seen it.
	And a handful of other people have seen it.
	Still stuck in my head, his signature over the pubic region of a drawing of a woman who they haven't seen it.
	Well, it hasn't been put out yet.
	Publicly.
	It will come out, it would be my guess.
	But he apparently signed his name where the pubic region was.
	Nice to censor it.
	What?
	To censor it?
	No, just to censor it.
	Because his signature looks like spiky pubic hair.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah.
	And I can't unsee it.
	Oh, I see.
	I get that now.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a style yours?
	Mine?
	I don't know if we got into this last time.
	I used hair gel.
	We did, actually.
	Yeah, we did a little bit.
	We talked about how Byron does a palm tree.
	And then I mentioned the Playboy bunny head.
	Classic, classic tanning.
	Oh, I just love about this clip.
	He said, we're going to talk about what's true and what's not true.
	And then later on he says, as far as we know.
	No.
	Which is like, that's not true.
	The only thing that he's pulling his truth of this situation from is the mouth of Donald Trump.
	Caroline Lovett.
	Did you say Trump complimented her mouth specifically?
	I heard that compliment to Liz.
	I heard that she said, Christ, really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's really weird to say about somebody.
	Imagine, yeah, locking in Doing a...
	I just think about like if I told anyone ever they had nice lips they'd be like what the fuck excuse me?
	Yeah, how about don't do that.
	Do y'all like find her like hard to look at?
	Oh, she's terrible to see with my eyes.
	Yeah.
	She just has like these mannerisms that are like so fucking bizarre, but I feel like it's because like her face doesn't move correctly.
	She has a bitchy vibe.
	Okay.
	Come on.
	Come on, man.
	All right.
	Let's move on.
	In the 1990s, this is another thing that's just out there.
	It's circulating.
	They add all this up.
	Maria Farmer said that Epstein brought her into a room and told Trump, she's not here for you when Trump was at an office.
	Again, this is something that's completely unsubstantiated.
	She claims that she asked the FBI to look into Trump.
	All right, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
	And if someone wants to, if someone wants to vilify a political enemy or someone they disagree with, they can, you can ask the FBI to look into Gerald.
	Please do, by the way.
	No, why?
	She even said, what are you hiding?
	Yeah, what are you hiding?
	That's exactly what a guilty person would say.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, let me guess.
	You didn't murder?
	Are you a murderer?
	It's time for me to go to Israel.
	Are you a murderer?
	Have you ever committed murder?
	No, I have not.
	That's exactly something a murderer would say.
	Wait, what?
	So, yeah, yeah.
	Like he's going to say, I did it.
	Let me watch the video and see.
	This lady even said she had no evidence of Trump wrongdoing.
	Maria Farmer, political time traveler, went back to 1996 to talk to the FBI about this.
	Of course, dude.
	And it's political.
	It's all staged.
	It's all a game.
	And the media is complicit because Maria Farmer went back in time knowing that Donald Trump would be the future president three.
	Should have been four times.
	Honestly, Rupert Murdoch, too, which is really weird.
	Is that a Peter Thiel thing?
	Probably.
	I bet he has a time watch that he built, dude.
	The new article says that in May, Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files.
	Many other high-profile figures were also named, Trump was told.
	Being mentioned in the records isn't a sign of wrongdoing.
	They told the president at the meeting that the files contained what officials felt was unverified hearsay about many people, including Trump, who had socialized with Epstein in the past.
	This is not new.
	Some of the officials said this.
	One of the officials familiar with the document said they contain hundreds of other names.
	And many, many times of Trump being mentioned that are no longer there because they've been redacted.
	Yeah.
	And just because it's not indicative of wrongdoing doesn't mean that it is absolving of wrongdoing either.
	And Stephen's acting like it is.
	The strangest thing is every time he's talked about the Epstein files at least in serious sit downs.
	He's said, Oh yeah, release all the credible stuff.
	Yeah.
	Which is such a crazy spin on this, implying that if there's anything wrong that he gets implicated in, that's not true.
	It's not credible.
	It's a lie.
	And can we get a couple of thousand people to start redacting these files now?
	Get Bon Gino in here.
	We're going.
	Sir, he's crying in his car.
	Sir, he really is having a lot of trouble with this.
	He's having a hard time.
	His head is growing in size.
	But let's be clear.
	Let's be clear.
	So to be clear, the birthday letter, which would signify that he's seemed like he wanted to sexually assault me even though it didn't happen and there was no evidence.
	Untrue.
	But you've been hearing these things drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.
	And the truth is, of course, he's in the files because he knew Epstein and he kicked them out of Mar a Lago and he dealt with the authorities.
	No.
	do not separate these two things just a lot of lying and lying about lying yeah he did not say as far as we know but he said that so many times as far as we know as far as we know the book's not real because Trump said it isn't yep Maria Farmer's lying even though she said it is true Yep.
	We got to get Von Gino out of the car.
	Get him out of the car.
	Because it's not a good look.
	Someone get him some tissue.
	Get him back in here.
	Tell him that he can have his show back on Rumble with, would he?
	Cry in the walk-in like a real man.
	He had to squeeze his head.
	It's get those tears out.
	Now let's go to the handling of this.
	Yeah.
	It's been awful, but I understand it.
	President Trump would be rightfully anxious, concerned, going, oh, no, the media is going to try.
	This is the same media, by the way, that Trumped up charges exclusively for him in the first time, the first time in the history of this country.
	to try and impeach him, to try and render him ineligible.
	And he knows that this could be Russia Gate 2.0.
	Which would be probably the best thing for Donald Trump.
	That would be the best scenario.
	He would not be anxious about that.
	No.
	He would be fucking thrilled.
	If the Epstein files absolved him of wrongdoing, they'd be out.
	I don't know.
	Part of me, I keep bouncing a theory in my head that he knows that, even though, and listen, the Russia, Russia, Russia thing, we know that the Mueller report didn't say that Russia didn't attempt to influence the 2016 election.
	It just said that there was no evidence that it worked and that there was no direct evidence of working with Donald Trump.
	Like a handshake deal, yeah, yeah.
	But that doesn't mean that it wasn't true.
	Like it didn't.
	Yeah, it just means that Trump wasn't the one organizing it directly, you know?
	And the results of that though have been arguably pretty fucking awesome for Donald Trump.
	He gets to run on everything being a hoax.
	Yeah.
	The amount of times that he brings up Russia, Russia, Russia, the Steel dossier and her emails, like that's campaign stuff.
	The best thing for him would be for this Epstein stuff to be a hoax.
	Yeah.
	But he doesn't think it is.
	He does not think it is.
	Like it's very clear.
	It's very clear.
	I've never seen an anxious Donald Trump before.
	And that's what makes this moment stand out so much to me.
	Yeah, having to feel like you have to dig up information, I guess, from 20 years ago and has six months seven months into this man's presidency second term here like the amount of damage that he's done to our institutions it's going to take a generation or more to like get it back probably it's just not going to be like you know uh democrats win and we could just turn the democratic machine back on it it's like these things are luckily a lot of it was executive orders
	and those can be reversed but the damage is still done like you said i guess what i'm trying to say i guess what i'm trying to say is that it's like bringing up obama to this the america that obama governed is no longer applicable.
	It's no longer a thing because of the Donald Trump presidency.
	So it's just like, I don't understand like how or why that would even be like the play.
	It's like you just really need to just say the aliens exist at this point.
	Well, and that's been speculated.
	That might be coming soon because of this.
	Trump's going to distract in as many ways as possible.
	I mean, like, what else have they got?
	They finally put out the JFK files or something.
	Like, there's just not really, there's not really anything else that like they can go.
	His back's against the wall.
	The entire administration's back's against the wall, but they're going to keep playing it as if the wall does not exist.
	There's still spots around Texas that the wall don't exist in.
	I gotta also say, too, the connection is like not good.
	Okay.
	When we're listening to Crowder talk, and he has like the very, you know, his voice goes up and down a lot.
	Sounds like I'm listening to the new fucking goddamn T-Pain record.
	It's like, you know, we have had a lot of criticisms of, you know, this situation, but it's been handled pretty well.
	I think that's safe to say.
	He's handled it like a pro, person personally.
	And he knows that they're going to try and build this case.
	so he tried to get out ahead of it.
	Okay, then he tried to bury it.
	All of those could be kind of permissible.
	In some instances, I get it.
	The problem is that you promised people that you would, and then people in your cabinet promised people that they would release this.
	And then the real problem, and why I think a lot of you are upset, rightfully so, was, and this is an overused word, most people don't even know what it means, the gaslighting of his supporters.
	saying now, well, it's just Democrats who want this.
	They're trying to keep this talking point alive.
	That's not true.
	You know it's not true.
	You've lived it, and now you're being told that you have not lived it.
	That is poor handling, but it doesn't make this guy guilty of anything as it relates to Epstein.
	It doesn't make him guilty.
	None of what he's doing is making him guilty.
	I mean, look guilty.
	Yeah, it makes him look guilty for sure.
	I think that's the thing.
	The things he's done might make him literally guilty.
	Well, but we're edging closer to it actually being the behavior of a guilty person.
	This is like at a movie where there's a secret spy and then the secret spy comes out and people find out, oh, he was working for them.
	And then it's like, oh, I was working for them to go undercover.
	But they refuse to break their cover.
	Sure.
	It's like that episode of South Park when there's the terrorists and they need to get to a special key in the back of the Silverwood-style place.
	And they refuse to break character, even though there's terrorists coming to kill everybody, but the guys refuse to break character.
	I don't know if I remember that one.
	It's a classic, and I don't know well enough to talk about it more.
	Do you already know what I'm talking about?
	No, I've never said that.
	God damn it.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But yeah, it's literally like at the end of a movie, they find out and they're like, I've got all the dirt on you I need.
	but they refuse to break character and they like continue to is that is that what's going to happen is trump going to die and people are going to be like he went all the way to his grave fighting against pedophiles by pretending to be one yeah he's a white hat pedophile i think in my head he never dies.
	He just had to go somewhere else.
	He does the poochie exit.
	I have to go to my home planet now.
	thank you and goodbye.
	And then they just sort of, if they kind of like cut his body out and sort of just, He just goes back to his home planet.
	You guys know that Southwark episode?
	No, stop talking about it.
	President Trump told reporters that he had never been informed his name was in the files.
	Bad move.
	On what?
	On the DOJ and FBI.
	On what?
	On what subject?
	FC, on FC, on the review of the files.
	Very, very quick briefing.
	Did she tell you what did she tell you about the review and specifically did she tell you at all that your name appears in the files?
	No, no, she's she's given us just a very quick briefing and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen and I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama, they were made up by the Biden information, you know, and we went through years of that.
	Okay, here's what we know now.
	It very much appears like he was told that he was in the files.
	Well, no, Comey lied.
	Comey lied because he did this, actually, in Obama too.
	Barack Hussein did.
	Oh, Hussein.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Forget about Hussein Obama.
	He's been claiming a lot recently that the Epstein files were made up by Comey, Obama, and Biden.
	And it's all part of this Russia, Russia, Russia hoax kind of thing.
	This is the political version of that show.
	I don't know these memes.
	I don't live on the internet.
	It's okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Remember, I didn't know anything about the face of the leopard thing.
	I just don't track it.
	I guess I'm weird.
	No, you're not weird.
	You're like everyone else.
	I'm the weird one.
	Don't come on.
	Don't make me admit it.
	I guess you just never believe what I say.
	I'll never be just like you, Dennis.
	I'm the one that's weird, okay?
	This is the stuff I have to listen to instead.
	I think if I was a Trump fan right now, I'd feel really super disrespected.
	We've known this for a very long time.
	Oh, see...
	He's holding up a meme there.
	It's a poster.
	Yeah, it's a she believed he lied.
	Interesting.
	I've never seen that before.
	But as a Trump fan, we have known for a very long time that he can say anything and his face will believe it.
	But at this point, he's hit the wall of that.
	Some people are like, hey man, like actually, like, I don't believe that.
	It's because there's simple lies that he's getting caught in.
	That's the thing that's really standing out for a lot of folks.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's like, why is he lying about that?
	And it was a really passionate thing in the first place.
	Like, people really believed it hard.
	Yeah.
	It would be like if he said, I lost the 2020 election.
	Like, suddenly said that?
	Yeah.
	Like, people would be like, Wait.
	What?
	Like, I went to jail about that.
	Yeah.
	Like, I lost, I lost all my family because of the Yeah.
	It's, that's why it's such a huge, like, he was like the, the guy who would bring about the storm.
	And the strangest thing, uh, this Epstein thing doesn't matter to Trump because it's not that big of a deal in his mind.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, says a lot.
	Yeah, it says a whole bunch..
	None of this means that someone was brought into a room for him to assault.
	None of this means that he was engaged in anything untoward.
	The only thing we absolutely do know is that he didn't like Epstein.
	He confirmed that he was a creep and reported him and dealt with the authorities and cooperated.
	We do know that.
	Yeah.
	The problem is something like this gives the Democrats an in that they are looking for to make this Russia Gate 2.0.
	Right.
	That's the thing.
	Exactly.
	Which is kind of my concern.
	What do you mean?
	That he's going to frame this as Russia Gate 2.0.
	Yeah, well, he is.
	Yeah, he already is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that if it worked, that would be bad.
	Yeah, I mean, that definitely would be bad, but I think the pressure is staying on this.
	Yeah, he's losing his ability to control the news cycle as much with this specifically.
	Kind of rips.
	It does.
	Which is also what Stephen's saying, is that the Democrats are using this as a...
	Like they definitely have been like, you know, like, oh, I'm going to hop on this and write it.
	I actually don't know.
	I think it's working pretty well.
	I think it's working fine, but it does feel disingenuous because they haven't been like actively fighting.
	twofold, I guess.
	Democrats not really talking about it because they don't
	And then maybe also that sort of people on the ground, the working class folks who'd be talking about this, who do feel disenchanted by what they're seeing themselves now and maybe that is breaking some sort of illusion about what you know they voted for or whatever the but the other side of it is that like when people talk about this and they're like well you know Bill Clinton's probably on there and it's like Yeah, true.
	You know, get this fucking guy out of here if he's on there.
	Fuck the Democrats.
	Yeah, it's like, who gives a shit?
	And it's like, is there some amount of like self-preservation that would be there for them not to really be like harping on this?
	And, you know, it's like especially like younger members of like the House or the Senate, I guess, too, in some instances, that would just be like, well, you know, I know I I'm not on there.
	And fuck my colleagues who would be, you know, projecting this shit, basically.
	I'd be curious to know something about that.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think that for a lot of folks on the left, it's definitely this, like, partly people who are like, hey, this is something that I can definitely use to get voters over to me and get people to trust me and think that I'm on the right path.
	But I think for a lot of them, oh, I think that for, like you were saying, for the younger people, get them out.
	We don't give a fuck about the older people.
	I think that's how it goes for most situations here.
	I don't think anyone, I've never talked to a single Democrat, like a real Democrat, like in person or liberal or progressive in person, who said, oh, no, I'm worried about Bill Clinton getting in trouble too bernie's on the list guys is bernie man he's got to go that'd be fine okay we gotta lock them lock him bernie yeah lock him everybody up yeah honestly honestly let's lock everyone up i wouldn't care i wouldn't care i would be like bernie that's a thing bernie go to go to jail dude it sucks yeah i voted for you but then you know then it would still stand that everybody else who uh
	would try to point to you as somebody who's, look, you voted for also a pedophile, and you can't be trusted with this.
	It's like, yeah, man, but you voted for the fucking king of pedophiles and Donald Trump.
	You kept voting for the pedophile.
	Yeah, you supported and backed up, and yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's rough.
	Then, not only President Trump, but the administration, The conservative, the MAGA, the traditional movement right everyone agreed that the files needed to be released so if you were president would you declassify you can answer yes or no to this would you declassify the 9-11 files yeah would you declassify JFK files yeah Would you?
	I did a lot of it.
	Would you declassify the Epstein files?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I would.
	Seems pretty cut and dry.
	That brings us to now.
	And this is the one that really bothers people.
	Now, any of you concerned over the files, keep in mind, back then there was enough concern that people were asking him to release the files, and he answered yes.
	This is not a new thing.
	But now, anyone who actually expects there to be releasing of the files, it's actually a Democrat conspiracy to get President Trump.
	I call it the Epstein hoax.
	It takes a lot of time and effort.
	Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had, instead they want to talk about the Epstein hoax.
	And the sad part is it's people that are really doing the Democrats' work.
	They're stupid people.
	Their new scam is what we forever will call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	And my past supporters have bought into this bullshit, hook line and sinker.
	They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left capital, of course, for eight long years.
	Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work.
	Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter.
	Imagine voting for that guy and then being like, wait, what, man?
	Dude, I just said, release the list of pedophiles, and now you are mad at me?
	That's weird.
	Also, I love that they said it was very cut and dry when he said yes, but they cut out the part where he was wishy-washing.
	Yeah.
	Immediately after that clip, they cut the context of him saying that- Well, they could be heroes, too.
	Some of the people in that list could be heroes.
	And, you know, I think that's, honestly, I'm a hero.
	And if I'm on the list, then I'm a hero.
	I didn't draft Dodge because I'm on the list.
	Also, my feet were I had.
	I have the best feet.
	And actually, I was trying to do foot modeling, all right?
	Because my dad, Fred, he knew a lot of, you know, foot model agencies in the city.
	And when I had a tragic foot accident.
	That's why they're all swollen now.
	They're all swollen now because I'm modeling.
	Wikifeeds is because of me.
	Wikifeeds wouldn't exist if it weren't for Trump.
	Does Trump have Wikifeeds?
	I bet he does.
	I gotta look real quick.
	Gerald, though.
	I love the Gerald perspective.
	So look, I understand that.
	And that pissed me off when I heard I was like, ugh, don't say it like that.
	Look, what you were trying to say is that the hoax is that you are in there in some materially bad way..
	Right, fine, say that.
	But right now everybody's just like, wait, you think the Epstein files in general, the case, everything that we've been talking about, that's a hoax?
	And I'm now not a supporter because I'm saying, I don't think it's a hoax.
	I think it's something that needs to be released.
	It was just very well that articulate or bad combined with the post of Stop talking about Epstein.
	I know, I know.
	I have had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history.
	And all these people want to talk about is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	Yeah, that's the full context there.
	Cool guy.
	The coolest guy.
	Trump is on Wikifeed.
	Oh, no.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What's the average score?
	What did we and actually, no, don'tt spoil it.
	Everyone, go to our Twitter at Van Crowder.
	Let us know what your guess is for Trump's wiki number.
	And then we'll reveal it next week.
	Great.
	Of course, I gotta know.
	Wow.
	What's the rating?
	Out of five stars.
	Okay.
	I also just want to add that the similar feat, if you like this page, you might also want to check out.
	And there's a guy called Paul Green.
	I wish he was on here.
	There's a guy who looks like he had some sort of dehabilitating obesity.
	Like a toe fungus.
	And his feet go like two different directions because his body is so wide.
	And then the next one is somebody called Ronnie Gallion.
	Oh, no.
	But he's like a conjoined twin.
	And like the way that his like feet hang off of this other, his brother's body, they're saying that maybe you would like these if you like Trump's toes.
	All right.
	Dennis has about seven minutes, so we gotta keep going.
	Holy shit.
	All right, so there was one moment of levity in this that I thought I would include.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's like when your wife keeps bringing up your work buddy that you go to movies with and you're like, Stop talking about her.
	Yeah, by the way, you and I need to stop going to movies.
	What concerts?
	And here's the thing.
	Why are you at Coldplay concerts all the time?
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Hey.
	Stop talking about Coldplay.
	That just gave me an idea.
	Oh boy.
	I'll come along with Gerald as CEO is all of a sudden worried.
	Sketch Coldplay.
	I will remember.
	Remind me.
	Sketch Coldplay.
	Sketch Coldplay.
	Oh my God.
	They want to do a sketch about the Coldplay thing.
	I hate hearing that because it's going to be bad.
	Well, I, yeah.
	This was already they missed their window.
	This doesn't make any sense.
	It's too late.
	It gives me an idea.
	When was this?
	The 24th.
	Oh my fucking god.
	But that happened during the week of like the 12th.
	Yeah, it's old news now.
	Yeah, they missed it.
	So it's already a week.
	They missed it by two weeks.
	Basically, almost, yeah.
	Bud, you gotta remind me to do remind me.
	Let's take cold play sketches.
	We should do one too.
	Honestly, at this point, we should probably do a cold play sketch.
	We should do a cold play sketch with Steven and us.
	We should have done it when I was there because then we could have done video work.
	I use a third hand, yeah, like where you and Dennis are holding and then it's me talking to you and then the I don't know the camera flips around but we're all in the same room.
	Jared remind me after this Coldplay sketch, okay?
	Good.
	Two things, by the way, can be true at once, okay?
	There can be a legitimate reason that people want the Epstein files, namely that, hey, who was involved?
	Because if people were being were getting, I guess, people trafficked to them through Epstein and he's no longer there.
	I don't know if you know this, but people who love them underage prostitutes, that's not sort of a hankering that goes away.
	They're probably still getting that from someone else.
	Yeah, despite the chronic release of child molesters in our country, they continue to do it.
	They continue for the rest of their life.
	And if there are people in positions of power and authority in dictating policy nationally or internationally, hey, if you have kids, you probably want to know who it is that you should keep your kids away from on a regular basis, right?
	So that can be true.
	Legit concerns, reasons for wanting it released, that has not changed.
	And at the same time, Democrats are absolutely trying to weaponize this, and they're doing it knowingly, dishonestly.
	Maybe knowingly, but not dishonestly.
	I mean, good points there.
	Yeah, I do want to know.
	Yeah, that's why we want the list out.
	So it sounds like you still think we should release List.
	Except for Ghislaine is innocent, so.
	I was going to say, yeah, let's release the other one person who's alive that was involved in this.
	Because we agree with this shit.
	Let's just pardon her.
	That is the cra.
	I would never have expected that turn in this story.
	That people would suddenly be saying that, well, maybe Ghislaine Maxwell's like totally fine and normal.
	Maybe she's actually a victim in all of this.
	That's what they're saying.
	Insane.
	Insane.
	Like the amount of cope just to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get implicated in any of this.
	It's bomb.
	Like it.
	And if Trump got implicated, the right is still strong enough to live.
	Of course.
	I think we've outgrown it.
	I mean, Nick Fuentes said it best, which is, I never thought I'd say this, but he said Trump was the vehicle to get us in.
	And I, of course, I don't want that to be true.
	But it is true.
	Yep.
	Like Trump is now nothing but a vehicle for, you know, more hateful, well, just for anyone else.
	Well, I think he still hangs on to people who are like too dumb for politics.
	Yeah.
	They still do.
	Unfortunately, it's a majority in the country.
	Because if we really look at it, only half of the country votes anyway.
	And of that half of the half, I would say, oh God, I'm going to get myself in a basket of deplorable situations here, so I'm going to move on.
	And by the way, here's what it is.
	I bet you, because there's a legal case to be made that these files can't be released, I think that you could probably release something that would at least satisfy the people who have some questions and redact some information.
	I know some people would never be satisfied no matter what it is, but there can be a case that, hey, there's some information that can't be released.
	I bet you Democrats at this point know that they're not going to be released.
	So everyone is bluffing.
	Right now, why don't you release it?
	Why don't you release it?
	Because they know that they're protected.
	Their names won't go public.
	So it's a hold me back, bro.
	Hold me back.
	They have no intention of actually wanting these to be released, and they don't want these.
	to be released.
	Wait, the Democrats are bluffing?
	Are they the ones who are in control of this?
	Yeah, they are for sure.
	Excuse me?
	Here's the thing that's bullshit about all of this is that Stephen's issue here is that, well, my issue is that it's not that no one will be satisfied with the release, but there's not a chance in the world that you can release the Epstein files without some people coming down, like being brought down by them.
	Of course, yeah.
	And that's the level of satisfaction I think people are looking for is like, and I think everyone agrees with this, is that if you arrest and charge the kingpin kingpin of the sex trafficking ring and you release the files the the pins need to fall people need like the things need to nobody uh if nobody's implicated in the release of the files then we will know that they're bullshit.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	It's like if you found out that a serial killer, you finally arrest a serial killer, but there's no bodies ever.
	Yeah, there's no.
	I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with that.
	People need to be actually brought to justice.
	That's all.
	People want justice.
	Are you leaving, Dennis?
	He's putting his shoes on.
	Well, he's got about 60 seconds, but we should be fine.
	This must be really hard for all of them.
	It has to be hard because they have to justify what Trump's doing.
	Yeah.
	And they don't have to.
	It's just like I would like Bill Clinton to be, if he was involved in this, sent into prison.
	It's interesting to see now because right now we're at a point like when we saw Biden at the debate and Biden was like, did fucking terrible?
	No, he didn't.
	We didn't have that level of cope.
	You know, we were like, fuck, this is bad.
	What are they going to do?
	And you can go watch that at shrug.club.
	Our disappointment is palpable.
	Yes, yeah.
	And it was immediate and honest.
	They are spinning this.
	They got it on the spin cycle, dude.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, these people, And I guess that's why it's like the dishonesty is hits a little harder because it's like, you guys know what you're doing by saying this shit.
	They're dumb fucking idiots, but it's like.
	they're not so stupid that they don't understand what this implies.
	This is propaganda.
	Yep.
	It's propaganda.
	And this is our last clip.
	Now, uh, now it's Republicans.
	It's, by the way, it's everyone here.
	It's including someone like me who recreated to the centimeter Jeffrey Epstein's cell to see if I could hang myself in the manner that he did.
	We're all child molesters supporters and pedophiles who don't want the release of files.
	I don't want to get too critical of his wonderful execution of the staged mock suicide of.
	This is what we covered last week.
	Oh, I missed that.
	Oh, you're going to love this episode.
	Listen, you're going to love this.
	episode.
	I did a little bit of digging into the dimensions of Jeffrey Epstein's cell.
	He did not do this down to the centimeter.
	He went to Home Depot and they sell 2x4s in 8 feet measurements.
	That's all.
	He built like an 8x8 box with a fake bunk and tried to hang himself on air, by the way, break his own neck, which was pretty exciting.
	If you missed that episode, I think everyone should go back and check that out.
	But you unfortunately know how it ends.
	Yeah.
	Because here we are in the present.
	I mean, the problem is that he also, like, I don't want to do spoilers, Dennis, but he was running in 2019 on the idea that Jeffrey Epstein died by doing a leaning neck break.
	And he doesn't bring up the fact that that was disproven and not the reality of the situation.
	But he does say that he reproduced it down to the centimeter.
	Just want to say he didn't.
	That's all.
	And that he's still living in that world.
	Yeah, one of our quieter than Crowder said that they truly believe that Stephen thinks that that was a scientifically accurate demonstration.
	And yeah, I mean, truly.
	What an embarrassing moment.
	Then and now.
	That's all I can handle this week.
	If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	I also realized after listening to all these clips that I listened to all of these clips.
	So I must have listened to more of the episode than I thought.
	You would go to sleep to it like I do?
	No, no, definitely not.
	I was losing my mind.
	That is really sad.
	Does make me sick.
	Accept your dreams.
	Reach out to Dennis.
	Dennis is looking left and he's got a gun holster.
	He's looking right.
	He's got another gun holster.
	They're both empty.
	Where am I?
	Where am I?
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, no.
	He looks up.
	It's Pop's crowder.
	But he's like the hat man, though.
	There's a guy in a lemon shirt making a shh.
	Yeah, that'd be cool.
	Man, feel free to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
	That's a free thing that you can do that helps us out a lot.
	Indiana Jared.
	Actually, JRD, I'm assuming it's Jared.
	Jared.
	Gave us a review here and honestly bumped us back up to 4.0 by the way.
	Finally.
	Yeah, we jumped back up with this one.
	Thank you.
	Five stars, tough gig, but they do a good job.
	I can barely stomach Crowder for even a moment.
	Somehow, these guys make it entertaining and informative.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	You're not a fucking dip shit like the other guy.
	What?
	Shitbag hack.
	You're a shitbag hack, Indiana Jared.
	Wonderful.
	Is that what reviews people are going to be?
	Oh, maybe they're going to be.
	If you write a review, you're a shitbag hack if you, uh, you can be a piece of shit if you're a drug clubber.
	What a piece of shit.
	Find us on X at than crowder louder than crowder dot com louder with crowder dot net.
	We're back in it folks and I hate that we are.
	We might time travel.
	I this is just, uh, listen, not worth talking about.
	They didn't provide us any evidence other than repeating what Donald Trump said as if it was fact.
	And I think that the as far as we know is the synopsis of this.
	Yeah, that's kind of cool.
	Just reporting on what I've heard from other sources.
	Other source.
	What?
	Thank you.
	Until next time, I'm Byron.
	I'm Dennis.
	I'm Jared.
	Shrugrats to the library!
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