Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 70: ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT STEVEN CROWDER? (JULY 24TH, 2025)

Aug. 10, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 70: ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT STEVEN CROWDER? (JULY 24TH, 2025)

This week we witness a mental gymnastic feat that if not for our continuous research of Steven, would have been hard to believe. This Epstein thing ain't going away, and Trump is certainly sus...but that doesn't mean he's not actually a hero. CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE Hat (for folks who like hats). Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Theme music by DJ Danarchy

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	We're all child molester supporters.
	Welcome to the Ladder Than Crowder.
	Sorry.
	I just tried a new button.
	What is that?
	It's a new Gerald I collected.
	There's this one?
	chorus and then all That one.
	But then I got this new one here.
	That one's like sexual.
	It is sexual.
	Yeah.
	Welcome to the Ladder Then Crowder podcast about the podcast with Louder with Crowder.
	My name, of course, is Byron.
	I'm joined this morning.
	I wrote Insert Observation.
	Dennis is back.
	Sipping on a Red Bull.
	Okay, thanks for bringing me one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	And our lone star brother in Occupied Texas in his old studio for the last time.
	It's Jared.
	Is Jared getting killed?
	No, he's moved.
	It's coming.
	He got doxxed.
	Yeah, I doxed myself the other week telling people where they could find me.
	Did you?
	Now I got him.
	No, it was during the Campus Boys episode.
	Yeah, Campus Boys episode.
	I said, that's my neighborhood.
	Oh, shit.
	And people went door to door doing ding-dong bitch.
	Yeah, they knocked on everyone.
	And then when they figured out it was me, it was lit shitbags.
	It was...
	Splash and paint or something.
	I don't know.
	throwing a pain at me.
	They were doing, They would go to shake your hand and it'd be a buzzer in there.
	A buzzer?
	Yeah, the buzzer hand.
	That's what I'm thinking of.
	And maybe thinking of the flower at the same time.
	Yeah, with the water.
	Squirting flowers or something.
	Honestly, you're fed up.
	I'm done with it.
	And now I'm moving two blocks north.
	Okay.
	You want to keep seeing.
	I thought you were going to.
	Expand the perimeter of the search.
	I thought you were going to Plano by the tenor.
	Maybe another time.
	I'm going to Fort Hood.
	I'm joining the military.
	Nice.
	You guys, Trump sure is acting kind of funny about all this Epstein stuff.
	No, he's not.
	At first, he was kind of almost like running on releasing the list.
	Yeah.
	Bringing all those sicko pedophiles to justice.
	Yeah, the storm's coming, dude.
	It was, but now it feels almost like he's panicking and saying that it's like a hoax, that everyone who cares about it is stupid, and even worse, helping the Democrats.
	The demon rats?
	Why would they help them?
	He can't believe that we're still talking about Epstein.
	That creep.
	At the same time, he's bringing up things like Russia, Russia, Russia, and Obama.
	I love talking about Obama.
	Huh.
	Steven and the gang aren't immune to this bizarre, scared energy.
	And that's why today we'll be talking about the July 24th, 2025 episode of Louder with Crowder.
	Is Trump confirmed to be on the Epstein list?
	What the hell is going on?
	What the hell?
	I think I actually might have listened to this one a little bit.
	Really?
	What the hell is going on?
	We will get into it.
	I'm excited.
	I didn't know what was going on myself.
	Yeah.
	You know, this is my first time hearing about the list.
	Sure.
	And so I'm excited to see what it's about.
	Running on it or running away from it?
	The list in general.
	I've never heard of the list.
	It's not even like why I voted for him releasing the list.
	Why I voted for him is because I wanted to pay more taxes to the people on the podcast.
	Exactly.
	I wanted tariffs.
	I wanted to pay more in tariffs and then get a rebate on my tariffs.
	It's like a mail-in rebate.
	America's mail-in rebate.
	It's like making more money, but in a more complicated way.
	Well, it's like making the same amount of money in a more complicated way.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, it's got to exchange hands more.
	Take it out of one pocket and put it in the other.
	If they remember that you gave them money, they're going to love that.
	That's true.
	You know.
	Very true.
	Even if I gave you the money first, as long as you give it back after a while, I gave you $2,000 and you gave me $600 back.
	Like, that's a pretty good deal for me.
	It feels good to give, man.
	Honestly, it's like...
	For us.
	Come on.
	It's a personal charity.
	We're supposed to be paying big taxes to the people in the Epstein list.
	That's what I voted for.
	What the hell is going on?
	We'll get into it after, of course, we take a second to thank some of the folks who were supporting us over at Shrug.club.
	Hello, Shrug Nation.
	You entered the Shruguation.
	Sorry, I was going to spit over his screen.
	That's okay.
	That's so funny.
	I'm for all things too hot.
	Pardon me for the RSS feed.
	And double salutes, Shrug Club exclusives, pics of Josh and Jared's Belly.
	You missed it last week.
	He got bit by a bunch of bugs.
	Did he?
	We didn't upload that.
	Yeah, there's that big spot.
	Wow.
	They've gone away.
	When I was in Montana, Dennis, I got something bit me.
	Oh, something bit me.
	It's all for free and always will be, but some folks said they choose to support us financially.
	The Shrug Rats.
	What?
	The Shrugrats.
	Oh, my God.
	Shrugrats.
	Come on, there is no way that we're adding the Shrugrats.
	The Shrugrats.
	Do we have a Rugrats theme song?
	Shout out to Dark Mother's Day.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's true.
	It's a good song.
	We appreciate them quite a bit.
	Folks like Jake Eve.
	Hey, my boy Jakey.
	All right.
	Hey, I'm Jakey here.
	Shitbag hack.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Wow, a shitbag hack, Jakey.
	Wow.
	Well, actually.
	What a piece of shit.
	Of course.
	And then Kitzo.
	Kitzo.
	You're just in a shout out.
	Kitzo, you're knocking it out of the park.
	I'm going to throw you a pitch.
	You're going to hit it.
	You're going to park that thing.
	Kitzo.
	You piece of shit.
	Grand Slam.
	If you like what we're doing and want to help us financially, you can do that and we will present you with more content of better quality.
	Yeah, actually, I don't know if you know this, but I determine how funny I'm going to be based on how much money I get in my account.
	So if I'm having a bad day, it means I don't have any money.
	That's why Kevin Hart's so funny.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's the funniest person.
	He's got a lot of money.
	He's got a lot of money.
	Makes him very funny.
	That's why we know Trump isn't rich because he's not funny.
	Not a lot of time to think about jokes.
	Wow.
	Appreciate you.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Trump is kind of funny, though.
	He can be.
	He's funny in a fucked up way.
	Make sure to join Shrug Nation, be a Shrugrat.
	Also, a Shrug Clubber.
	As well as a shitbag hack piece of shit.
	Nice.
	That one's so good.
	That one's so good.
	It's terrible.
	So was the show this week, by the way.
	Yeah, I decided to cut a big chunk of stuff that they're talking about.
	They actually watch most of a Watch Mojo video.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	It came out two weeks ago.
	It has about 200,000 views.
	Okay.
	Which I don't know how well that is for watchmojo.com.
	Yeah, it feels like it's kind of a mid-vid.
	10 disturbing parallels between 1930s Germany and 2020s USA.
	Great.
	I bet that they were open-minded about those two.
	They just said that because there was no Jacob Chansley at one of the insurrection style events, it was different.
	It's like when you would make that comparison early in Trump's presidency and people would be like, did he kill six million Jews?
	Okay, well, Taylor didn't start with that, man.
	We all know Stephen and his relationship with Candace Owens, the person that after he had separated from his wife, he tried to flirt with at a live event for the Daily Wire.
	Remember that?
	I don't remember that.
	I vaguely do.
	Yeah.
	She called him out, right?
	She called him out and he calling her out after she is that why you wanted her to come on debate or whatever?
	Probably.
	Yeah, I think.
	I mean, there's always been some sort of tension between Steve and he thinks the sexual she thinks is perverted.
	Yeah, I mean, she's clearly not a fan.
	She did give him flowers after the, not literal, after the Nashville Manifesto leaking, I guess.
	She also.
	It's not literal flowers.
	It's a term giving them their flowers.
	Like giving praise.
	Yeah.
	She gave them the roses.
	I'm old.
	She did say that Stephen paid the officers who leaked the information of the Nashville Manifesto, accused him of that.
	Just like she accused Emmanuel Macron's wife of being transgender, and she's now actively being sued by Macron's.
	Stephen decided to call her out on that.
	We're not going to be covering any of that.
	Mostly what we're going to be talking about is Stephen playing the old Cope game.
	Copium, baby.
	He's an addict, has all the details of Trump being in the Epstein file.
	Allegedly.
	It allegedly is coming out.
	So that's mostly what the focus is going to be today.
	Okay.
	We're going to talk about a lot today.
	Because you guys asked me to discuss this, and We were on, you know, that two-week week break for all of us.
	Epstein.
	And the new information has come out.
	I'm going to get into what it is that the media is trying to do versus what is actually true.
	The handling has been bad.
	I think we all acknowledge that.
	Glad he acknowledges that.
	Too bad he refuses to accept the fact that people might think that he's on a two-week break.
	Every year, this is the third year that he's done this.
	He's like, we took two weeks off.
	Just one week for me, though.
	Is that what he says?
	Yeah, because he's always like, I was in the studio doing repairs and like getting ready for the new season.
	No, he wasn't.
	Yeah, well, I don't know if he was or not, but who fucking cares, dude?
	Like, what?
	They think you may have taken seven additions.
	I took two weeks off, but I didn't stop fighting for you.
	I fought for you every single day.
	Yeah, he also said he's going to put in a shooting range, an indoor shooting range in his studio now.
	So great use of those bucks.
	That makes sense.
	Mug club.
	All this Rumble money, I can discharge a gun inside my house now.
	So, listen, guys, I was looking through my credit card statement.
	Oh, no.
	I've been paying for a Rumble premium for five months.
	Not great.
	Feeling.
	You didn't buy annual?
	That's the real problem here.
	Yeah, I used promo code Epstein.
	Save $10.
	So Dennis hasn't heard last week's episode.
	They really did that, by the way.
	No, they did.
	In 2019.
	Yeah, they had a promo code Epstein during the Epstein didn't hang himself live stream.
	Oh, cool, cool, cool.
	Yeah.
	I did use promo code Epstein, of course.
	And I tried promo code Hitler.
	Whoa.
	No.
	But actually gave you for free.
	25%.
	Friends and family.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it sucks.
	That was 10.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	Of course, it's no surprise if Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
	We have a call that I said, of course, he would be because he was the one who cooperated with authorities.
	Okay.
	The media wants you to think where there's smoke, there's fire.
	No one is making the claim that Donald Trump was buddies for a long time or did anything untoward with Epstein.
	It's important that you're able to see the strategy that they use and how to be able to look at it critically.
	Also, Donald Trump is not Hitler.
	Yeah, he's closer to Epstein, though, allegedly.
	Yes.
	I really, really love that.
	Like a couple blocks.
	I really love that Steven's starting the angle of like, yeah, of course he's in the files because he was the guy who, like, he was undercover.
	He, and this is not the first time you'll say this, and this won't, probably won't be the last time I point this out.
	There is no evidence Trump was deposed or went to authorities or did anything of the sort surrounding Epstein.
	No.
	At all.
	He's not some sort of secret agent.
	He wasn't like undercover diddling.
	You're going to have to get a blowjob from a 16-year-old girl.
	Can you handle that?
	No.
	He's on an airplane with sunglasses.
	He's got an earpiece.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He's Tom Cruise.
	Are you a cop?
	You have to tell me if you're a cop before I suck your dick.
	Lowered down from the ceiling onto a child.
	Yeah, right.
	Like, what are we doing?
	Absolutely not.
	Absolutely not.
	Trump would spill the beans if he was ever an informant.
	Well, he would accidentally do it and then twist it around.
	Exactly.
	Kind of what he's doing now.
	What a terrible dipshit.
	And then we do a sip and start the show.
	That was the preamble, of course.
	That was just setting you up for what to expect.
	Oh, Dennis is doing a little sip.
	Everyone take a sip.
	And at home, I don't have any sip buttons.
	Everyone out there, fake news, and I understand this has been an issue.
	It's really the era of due diligence.
	I'm glad to see that media, legacy media, is done, that it's dying.
	It pretty much is dead at this point, and everyone's urinating on the ashes.
	But we now find ourselves at the point where people have realized there's a new market and it's getting oversaturated and people are happy to lie to you so long as they get clicks.
	So really, it's more important than ever for you to do your due diligence.
	And I think it's more important than ever for us to expect those broadcasting to do their due diligence and also to get their headphones working right.
	It's kind of so much.
	Can't figure it out.
	Their headphones, Stephen.
	You just plug them in.
	Yeah, and then you turn the volume up or now.
	And you have a team that does it for you.
	Yeah, like I do it before the show.
	You see me adjust it maybe six times.
	I never do.
	I like to fiddle with knobs and then we start.
	You know, I really appreciate that Steven has this attitude, and he always has.
	Oh, of course.
	He's always been really focused on making sure that he doesn't ever post the wrong picture of someone who's not actually a killer and then get sued for it.
	Of course not.
	He doesn't want to do that.
	I mean, he would never do that, right?
	Due diligence.
	His middle name is Due Diligence.
	Stephen Due Diligence Crowder.
	Yes, and he went to school for that.
	Media school.
	He went to meet his girlfriend.
	Remember?
	And also, he's taken this as an opportunity to exclusively point people in his direction saying anyone else saying anything else is wrong.
	And He's the compass of truth.
	I am the truth.
	Dude diligence is trying to find a way to say that.
	I like dude diligence.
	All right.
	Kind of a cool guy.
	What would be required for you to be satisfied with the sort of response, the handling of the Epstein files?
	If they were to be released with certain names, with the names redacted.
	Or people or places, you know, information redacted that protects the innocent, meaning it only provides the information of those who willingly engaged in sex.
	Would that be enough?
	Do you need everything at this point where nothing is redacted?
	I really just think they should deliver what it is that they promised.
	I mean, legally, they can say, well, well, we're not allowed to do that.
	Well, then you shouldn't have promised it.
	Yeah.
	That's the primary issue here.
	And I understand why you guys are upset.
	It doesn't mean that you're anti-mAGA.
	It doesn't mean that you're anti-Trump.
	It doesn't mean that you're no longer a conservative.
	If you are a conservative, if you are a Republican, if you are a Trump voter who thought that you would get the Epstein files because you were told that you would, and then you thought that you would because Pam Bondi said that they were on her desk and you would, it's okay that you're upset when you are now being told by the same people that the only folks who care about it are Democrats.
	Crying.
	Yeah.
	I love the very first part of that when he's like, what would it take for you to be satisfied?
	I feel like it's like the opening of like a therapy session.
	It's like just that clip alone.
	Never had a thing.
	What would it take for you to be satisfied, Bayern?
	Listen in general.
	I got to sit and think with that for a little bit.
	I got about 45 minutes.
	Jared, what would make you satisfied?
	Like right now?
	Just in general.
	A bacon, egg, and cheese, probably.
	I think that could go for a lot.
	A McGriddle.
	What?
	A McGriddle.
	A McGriddle is like too much.
	Yeah, that's sweet.
	I did want a pancake this morning, and I went out to the spot around the corner that has pancakes sometimes.
	Wait, hold on.
	Sometimes a restaurant is like you go and you're not sure.
	Because they weren't there.
	Well, like, okay, I went in one time.
	Right?
	Actually, I've been in a lot of times.
	Sometimes there's people making food in there.
	Is this someone's house?
	It kind of feels like that.
	It has that sort of hours.
	That sounds nice.
	Names redacted is useless in releasing any sort of documents.
	You redact all the names?
	Or just the people who willingly participated?
	What does that mean?
	Didn't we just find out that the FBI is like redacting names on the list?
	Yeah, I was going to talk about that.
	They did fully redact all of Trump, at least.
	Yeah, anytime that his name showed up.
	Why would they redact the parts where he was the hero who jumped out of a helicopter and shot up everyone?
	Yeah, when he's being lowered down from a rope ladder.
	He's like getting back his massage girls from Mara Lago.
	When he did a flying squirrel suit, like.
	Give me back my 16-year-olds.
	Just shooting a bunch of pedophiles.
	Trump's in the squirrel students.
	I have to imagine his face is like doing that.
	It's not going to be fun.
	He's just flapping around.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Oh, it'd be terrible.
	Just an extra foot of skin behind him.
	You know what I really love, though, about this clip was that basically Steven's like, hey, listen, you're not going to get kicked out of the cult.
	You can still be on the list and Trump will still love you.
	It's okay.
	Don't worry, man.
	I know that the cult is like about this, but you can still be in the cult and still hate pedophiles.
	It's okay.
	And we're going to talk a lot more about this.
	But before that, we've got one other story that they covered that they think is really funny.
	And it's not.
	Really quickly, this is funny.
	It's another deportation story.
	Oh, yes.
	Sort of.
	But this one has a twist.
	But it's funny, though.
	It's funny.
	No, not sad.
	None of them are sad to me.
	Oh.
	So.
	The child had cancer.
	This one made me so fucking mad when I listened to it.
	Oh, you did listen to it.
	I did listen to that.
	Oh, wow.
	Jared, the roles are reversed.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I listened to just this one because the whole time I wanted to hear Steven's take on Epstein.
	That's what I was wanting to hear for a while because he was like conveniently out.
	And when I heard this, fuck, this makes me so mad.
	Jared, you didn't listen to this episode, right?
	Welcome to the D seat.
	We flipped it.
	Flipped it in reverse.
	All right, I'm locked in.
	I stopped listening after this.
	Well, about to drive your car into a ravine.
	So this recipient of DACA, Gross, Eric Hernandez, made a wrong turn during an Uber trip, And that may be his last Uber trip.
	Picture this.
	You're driving down the freeway to drop somebody off at the border when you miss an exit and then another one.
	And then all of a sudden, you're accidentally in Mexico.
	That's what Eric Hernandez says happened to him.
	But here's the problem: he's a DACA recipient.
	So that one mistake means he's now detained and about to be deported.
	He's now a rideshare driver and was taking passengers from LA to the border in San Desidro when he missed his exit and ended up in Tijuana.
	Why was he telling me that?
	He lost everything, basically.
	His attorney, Valerie Segamini, says he lost everything by going back to the country, being detained in the country whose flag he likely flies.
	No, Eric Hernandez actually came to the U.S. from El Salvador.
	But interesting.
	Doesn't matter, dude.
	What?
	Doesn't matter.
	Immigrants come from Mexico.
	Wait, excuse me?
	Okay.
	He's been here for almost only the bad ones come from Mexico.
	The good ones come from the white countries.
	Yikes.
	El Salvador, I don't know enough about El Salvador to know if it's white or brown.
	El Salvador never met or wait, what?
	Come on, guys.
	So Eric Hernandez Rodriguez, he's missed a turn and then accidentally crossed into Mexico from San Diego.
	He's a rideshare driver.
	He was taking a couple folks back from a soccer game to as close to the border as they could get.
	I imagine that they were coming over from Mexico to watch a soccer game in San Diego.
	Sure.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	I feel like that happens a lot.
	Plenty of people cross in and out of Mexico and the U.S. daily for fun.
	Yeah, it's like when you live up in northern Washington, you might pop into Canada and it's a totally normal thing.
	People cross the border daily, all the time.
	And Eric Hernandez, he missed an exit, and then the U-turn lane was blocked by a police officer who had pulled someone over on the left side, and he accidentally crossed into Mexico.
	The country he's from.
	I did a little bit of research.
	I keep forgetting.
	I keep being racist again.
	It's an unmanned entry point for the most part.
	It just kind of scans your license plate and you roll in and customs just waves you through.
	Unless it pops a flag.
	This isn't.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This isn't the kind of case where it's like you have to stop, present information, talk to someone every time.
	This is just like an in-and-out kind of situation.
	I think people don't realize that in a lot of places, there might be like a border check that's farther into the country a little bit.
	Yeah.
	You know, after you've already crossed the line.
	Yeah, it's not like there's a specific line that like the building, like the front half of the building is staffed by Americans and the back half is staffed by Mexicans.
	It's not like that.
	But they all share a bathroom.
	And I think that that's like a really positive thing to be thinking.
	Yeah, right.
	The toilet is like right in the middle of the thing.
	Well, I like it.
	It's like surrounded.
	Yeah.
	It's like surrounded.
	It's like surrounded.
	We got Chank coming up, by the way.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, that'll be interesting.
	It sure will.
	Today's episode, right?
	Oh, it dropped today.
	Today I call that for sure.
	Let's keep playing.
	Prior approval to leave the U.S. And when he tried to come back, she says the Americans at the border asked him for a bribe.
	Oh, come on.
	At one point, one of the FBI to him.
	Well, if you pay us $800, we'll forgive everything and we'll let you into the United States with no problem.
	Without any cash, she says Hernandez was placed in expedited removal.
	He's now at Otai Mesa Detention Center with an order of deportation.
	Yeah.
	So the lesson here is always travel with cash.
	Or Zell.
	Come on.
	Yeah, because let's just honestly, you really like, do any of us question that the Mexican authorities are corrupt?
	That's how it works there is bribery.
	I'm sure it happens here every now and then.
	I've greased a few palms to get out of citations.
	Didn't work.
	Turns out you need more than a fiber.
	So you haven't greased a few.
	Or at least Zelle is the dumbest joke I've ever heard in my entire life.
	It's pretty bad.
	It's terrible.
	What were you saying?
	I've tried to grease a few palms.
	It's like, well, then if they didn't accept the money, then you didn't actually grease any palms.
	Totally.
	You had a wet $5 bill because you were nervous that you got pulled over.
	Pulled it out of your wet bra.
	Summer cash.
	The fact that they think that there's not bribes that happen amongst regular police officers, they're definitely.
	Yeah, and it's not surprising.
	It's really unfortunate.
	But cops aren't ever bad, actually.
	Yeah, true.
	Cops are good.
	They would never do that here.
	If it's bad, would a cop do it?
	No.
	Well, they mispronounced Mexican when they're talking about the other authorities.
	Oh, did that?
	Yeah, it's called El Mexicador, right?
	Because that's where he's from.
	Yeah, dude, that's where he's from for sure.
	now, here's the reality.
	Everything is a sob story.
	I one time almost accidentally ended up in Mexico driving across the country.
	The good news is I didn't because there are many, many, many, many signs warning you that you are approaching the last United States exit.
	And then that's Chess Guy 5.
	That's in San Diego only.
	That's one for you.
	And if you can't read that because you're in a country and don't speak the official language, the good news is, unless you're blind, which I hope is not the case if you're an Uber driver, when you get to the border, there are giant whistling loud U-turns.
	So you can see those two.
	They couldn't be like.
	Additionally, if you can't read in English, luckily, Mexico is spelled the same in Spanish.
	That's true.
	It's spelled exactly the same.
	Arrows are exactly the same in all languages.
	Also, at the border, there's a big fun sign that says Mexico in red, white, and green.
	Yes, right.
	And often a flag.
	Yeah, it's a big one.
	They should have one.
	It's their country.
	It's a big flag.
	Which you don't see elsewhere.
	Different colors.
	Yeah.
	So it's not red, white, and blue.
	We know that the Uber driver was trying to take these people as close to the border as possible.
	Yeah, they don't, because they didn't care.
	Well, of course.
	But I mean, that's the point of what this was.
	Yeah.
	If police block the U-turn after the exit.
	And it is possible to accidentally go into Mexico.
	You have to look at the literature of American ball.
	Steven just said he almost did.
	And I actually, I know he was being sarcastic too.
	I found a YouTube video talking about this specific border, walking us through the process of entry.
	There is no giant welcome to Mexico sign at this point.
	It floats in the air.
	No, Americans can see it.
	Yeah, they have a bunch of crop dusters that just go through with big border welcome to Mexico.
	You see the yellow wall.
	Nope.
	Wait, the yellow wall.
	Like how everything in Mexico is yellow.
	You know?
	No, I have never heard.
	It's like the classic movies in Mexico were always color-graded all yellow.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It changes.
	Yeah, yeah, the CPA tone.
	Yeah.
	The poor country look.
	Exactly.
	They put the little filter on it.
	Everything they're saying here.
	They're painting the story the way that they think it is in their racist minds.
	Yeah, and people who live in fucking Kentucky, the middle of America, who've never been near the border, will be like, yeah, it's not easy to actually live in Mexico.
	It is.
	It is.
	And honestly, all of that said, like, did they really believe that a DACA recipient should not be allowed to re-enter the country because they accidentally crossed the border?
	That's the thing that blows my mind about all this.
	It's like, to me, DACA is like the most clear-cut.
	Like, these are kids.
	Their parents brought them over.
	They had no control over coming to the country legally.
	Let them hang out.
	Let them be.
	I had no control over coming to America.
	Well, Eric, he's been here for almost 20 years.
	Yeah.
	And they think 34?
	34.
	Okay, so yeah, he was a teenager.
	He didn't be like, hey, mom, let's go into the U.S. It just doesn't make any sense.
	Like, it makes sense if you're racist.
	And if you have zero empathy, you think that if the place you lived for 20 years, you accidentally leave and now you live somewhere else that you've never been.
	That's like you live in a house and then step out your back door and free your keys and go, guess I don't have to fucking sell the house.
	Well, you don't get to sell the house.
	You just have to abandon it.
	Just someone else lives there now.
	MF Doom.
	That's what happened to him.
	Really?
	Rest in peace, by the way.
	His house was taken.
	R.I.P. Doomalay.
	So he was touring, I want to say, UK or Paris.
	He comes back to New York, and at customs, they checked him and they were like, actually, you're not an American citizen.
	And he's like, what are you talking about?
	I've lived here my entire life.
	And it turns out that his parents, like, he was born in the UK.
	His parents brought him here and he just was never naturalized or whatever.
	Oh, no.
	And so they were just like, you can't come back.
	And so, like, he lived in Brooklyn his entire life.
	I mean, he was like in his 40s when he passed away.
	Yeah.
	That's wild.
	Do you guys know where you were born?
	Do you guys have?
	I mean, I've here.
	Yeah.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah.
	Is that your mom told you?
	I have a point.
	I have a birth cert, and actually, I just looked at it recently, and it says Eric Hernandez on it.
	Oh, you stole his birth certificate?
	No, I think we just body swapped.
	I think that we finished at birth.
	Oh, damn, dude.
	That's crazy.
	So now the U.S. government is saying that he self-deported because he crossed the border.
	He's currently being detained, and they're saying that He has no right to come back to the United States to see his wife.
	He'd recently got married.
	He has a child and one more on the way.
	His wife is pregnant.
	They think this is hilarious.
	It's the most fucking racist piece of shit.
	This made me so mad.
	It made me so fucking mad, especially because it's a DACA recipient.
	DACA is the most clear-cut, like, morally fine thing.
	I don't know how anyone feels that.
	And they're trying to get rid of it now.
	Yeah.
	It's insane to me.
	So either he's lying or you deport him for being an idiot.
	Either way, I don't want him bringing me my DoorDash.
	So I feel like this problem solved itself.
	Yes.
	I really do.
	Resolved on its own.
	Where do you trap the passengers?
	Yeah.
	Just like, hey, keep going, bro.
	Closer, closer.
	Like, I'm going to go in Mexico.
	Like, yes.
	That's where you want to go.
	Exactly.
	Maybe that's why.
	Maybe he was like, oh, I see the Utah.
	And they're like, you turn.
	No.
	No.
	Uber said they're Uber said they're doing this new thing where they're letting women choose to not have a male driver.
	Yeah.
	Or letting women drivers choose not to have male passengers.
	I wonder if you can choose to not have a DACA recipient driver.
	Yeah.
	Or not choose Asians.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Oh.
	I heard this.
	I really loved Josh's like, oh shit about like the Asian government.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's like, oh, wait, we're being racist towards Asians.
	Sexism is fine.
	That's totally fine.
	You know, against general brown people is fine.
	But yeah, when Stephen goes, that's the line he crosses.
	Oh, no.
	Or Asian.
	Oh, oh, oh, shit.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Uber, by the way, they are allowing female Uber drivers, passengers as well, say preferences for gender.
	Yeah, totally.
	And this was after, this is just a statistic between 2021 and 2022, 2,717 sexual assault incidents involving female Uber passengers and drivers.
	Yeah.
	It is a problem.
	And this is a solution.
	It's a solution, yeah.
	And it's not that big of a deal.
	It's not at all.
	No, he can't fathom the fact that women might want to protect themselves from men.
	Holy shit, that's crazy.
	Well, I want a hot driver, though.
	Yeah.
	Even though I don't think they can drive, I'll offer to drive their car.
	And then they'll think I'm a hero.
	And that's cool.
	It makes me feel good about my streets.
	He opens the door for the Uber driver.
	Get out.
	I'm being chivalrous.
	Get out.
	And Tim was really so close to understanding this story, though.
	Like, clearly, the passengers were from Mexico, right?
	Yeah.
	And all they could think about was that they're cliche Mexicans.
	Yeah, let's go to a donkey show.
	That's it.
	And they loved that bit, apparently.
	It's so funny.
	Yeah, when the donkey's penis unravels, dude.
	And now all the boys are cheering.
	This is our relationship to Mexico.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	It does suck.
	And there is actually a GoFundMe for Eric Hernandez.
	And I think we'll put a link to that in the show notes of this episode.
	What's it at right now?
	Not enough.
	I feel like their joke around the GoFundMe would be something like, and we're setting up a GoFundMe to take money from his GoFundMe.
	Just some more hairbrain ass shit.
	Just dumb fuck.
	Well, they would probably cover it very quickly because unfortunately, Eric's fight against deportation, GoFundMe, only has raised $1,671.
	Really?
	Fuck.
	Is it too late for us to donate our extra money from our thing to them?
	Yeah, I mean, we could probably do another month of it.
	Yeah.
	For all the shrug club money.
	That one Connor guy who's a fascist guy is he's at $40,000 now.
	So that's cool.
	And then the N-word lady is No, she's a little under $900,000.
	If she invested it, she'd beat a million.
	Definitely look into this more and consider supporting Eric's fight against deportation because this is ridiculous.
	It's an American married to an American, and he's got a daughter and a son on the way.
	This is just disgusting and also fucking hilarious.
	Funny, dude.
	If he had Zelda.
	This guy who he's working really hard.
	He's driving way far out of his way to the border of the United States for an Uber ride.
	And then Steven's saying, one less brown guy to bring me my DoorDash.
	Yeah.
	Seriously, go fuck yourself.
	Why don't people want to work anymore, dude?
	I don't understand it.
	I work 900 hours a week, and these liberals don't even want to change my bed sheets once.
	It's bullshit.
	They decide to move away from that onto, you know, trying to find a way to make this Epstein thing okay.
	Okay.
	We're going to get to their handling of it, which I don't think is very good.
	But I want you to understand the media playbook here.
	What the media playbook does, so before this, they released this story that Donald Trump was buddy buddy with Epstein and sent him a birthday letter, which is false, and Donald Trump's likely going to win that lawsuit.
	I don't think he's going to win it.
	I don't think Rupert Murdoch or the Wall Street Journal.
	The record of truth, pirate.
	I don't think that they would be publishing things, even after the explicit threats from both Trump and his press secretary ahead of its publication.
	I don't think they would have done it if they didn't have proof or evidence of this book.
	The Department of Justice has proof of this book.
	It's rumored that the Epstein estate is the ones who actually have the birthday book.
	I don't know if that's good or bad, but.
	On what grounds is he saying that it's not real?
	He's just because he doesn't feel like Donald Trump said it is.
	No, because Donald Trump said it wasn't real.
	So does he understand that by suing to say it's not real, it'll like it'll speed up the fact that it'll get out?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Donald Trump is now subject to discovery, and it's pretty clear that someone's going to have to have to release this information.
	And I know Congress has requested this from the Department of Justice as well.
	Yeah, well, he doesn't realize that you cannot prove something didn't happen or doesn't exist.
	You just can't prove that.
	So all that he's doing is giving the opportunity for it to be proved.
	My good friend Ghislaine.
	Well, yeah, they do hang.
	I've gave her a pardon.
	We're having a freak off with Diddy later.
	You're not invited.
	And the truth will come to life.
	We're on a live stream.
	Just shout out.
	Let him know.
	We got to skedaddle.
	Uh-oh.
	Somebody said, skedaddle.
	Let's get the hell out of here.
	They dropped a smoke bomb and Ghislaine, Diddy, Trump, Dershowitz, they're all holding on to each other's ankles.
	Get a wheelbarrow out of there.
	Well, a helicopter comes down.
	They just flood out of the room like a fucking human ladder.
	They were the original inspiration for the sequel to Now You See Me.
	That's it.
	Right?
	We're pulling in SPO.
	We're just over here being like the media, right?
	Yeah.
	We're just goofing, right?
	Here's what the media does: they go, all right, there's going to be something true out there, but it's not enough.
	So now we need to create a backstory to make it credible.
	In other words, we're going to have someone who's insane, who named her cat vagina, who has accused 26 men of rape, who says that.
	So we know she doesn't have the credibility.
	So let's just have a bunch of other women come forward with unsubstantiated claims that we can drip in the media so that people conflate the two and go, where there's smoke, there's fire.
	Donald Trump is a civilly liable rapist.
	Well, that's not true, though.
	A jury.
	Yeah.
	A jury.
	12 people.
	Yeah.
	Are you going to say peers?
	I mean, of his peers.
	They're not my peers.
	Oh, is that what he says?
	No, I don't know.
	I would imagine.
	Yeah.
	There's 12 people in that room that disagree with those other 12 people.
	Oh, true.
	Yeah.
	You have to convince everybody else to be unanimous.
	That's going to be what Trump's going to try and fight for.
	Unanimous for all juries.
	Like unanimous from the whole world, the whole country.
	Everyone text one to 784-230.
	Did Trump rape her?
	All right.
	Well, standard SMS rates apply.
	So, of course, he's talking about Eugene Carroll saying that she named her cat Vagina and also made other allusions to being raped during her life.
	And that makes her accounts about Donald Trump less likely.
	I looked into this a little bit.
	Cat's name is Vagina.
	I don't know if that's true or not.
	I love the name of Cat.
	It wouldn't matter.
	It doesn't matter at all.
	It doesn't make you less.
	Does Steve have pets?
	Yeah.
	Does he know their names are?
	Cancer dog and then other cancer dog.
	Gun.
	Joe Lewis.
	Boxers.
	And then Hopper, remember?
	Joe Lewis is a boxer.
	Yeah, a pit bull.
	But Hopper died in 2019.
	I remember that episode.
	He was terribly sad about it.
	Yeah, sure.
	Well, I mean, it's fine.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	My wife.
	She wouldn't say it.
	Wouldn't touch the dog's asshole.
	No, the 21 hideous men's comment by E. Jing Carroll is from her memoir, What Do We Need Men For, a modest proposal.
	It was discussing moments in her life 21 times that men had been sexually inappropriate or abusive or treated her cruelly with violence through her life.
	I would say that that's probably common.
	And that's the sad part.
	Yeah.
	It seems like for someone her age that, yeah, maybe there aren't that many times that people had taken advantage of her.
	Yeah, and she could also be being pretty liberal with that definition.
	But honestly, think about, like, I'm not saying that she hasn't.
	Yeah, I was going to say, just think about, like, you could say that somebody slapping your ass is like that.
	Somebody saying a comment is that.
	Touching you.
	Touching anything.
	But in this case, she was attacked in an elevator.
	Someone choked her once.
	She was attempted rape at knife points.
	A camp counselor molested her when she was 12.
	A television publicist attacked her in a car.
	A mob boss apparently tried to use their power of coercion against her.
	These are not all rape accounts, but they are like all substantial sexual assaults or general assaults or threats.
	I bet if you asked any woman and there was no pressure of any kind and they were like they could freely speak their mind.
	It doesn't reflect 10 to 20 times that something like that happens.
	Totally.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that happens to a lot of people, not just women, but like men too.
	But like just this week, some random customer made a disgusting remark towards my wife.
	That happens.
	It's gross and it's awful.
	Yeah.
	But it doesn't make a true sexual assaults rape allegation less true.
	Yeah, it doesn't at all.
	But that's what Steven said.
	And it was also reviewed by fucking a jury, dude.
	Listen, party of law and order, right?
	Yep, exactly.
	I'd like to run you through a hypothetical.
	Picture this.
	Let's say you are a famous person.
	All right.
	And let's say you got, I don't know, you got cited for littering.
	Very cool.
	Okay, and let's say that you, as a young man, you got into a bar fight with a buddy.
	All right.
	So here's what happens.
	They go, okay, we want to falsely accuse you of rape.
	Now, we know we're not going to win this in court.
	We know there's no substantiation.
	We know that there's nothing there.
	But what we're going to do now, since we know we're going to release this in six months' time, is we're going to bring out look littering.
	Look bar fight.
	Looks, look at this.
	Ex-girlfriends or ex-enemies.
	So that when this false story or completely unsubstantiated story comes out, you go, well, I guess where there's smoke, there's fire.
	Only they're the one creating the fire.
	This is the playbook.
	And I want to separate what is very likely versus the poisoning of the well that the media does.
	It's all the media's fault here, yeah.
	And also, is that the scale?
	You hear me, Tom Cruise?
	You're going to have to jump off six more Dubai towers to fucking beat these allegations.
	You've got to keep the industry going at this point.
	Yeah.
	If Tom Cruise stops making movies, then popcorn, no one's going to buy that stuff, right?
	Remember when he tried to eat it?
	Now all the kids are doing that?
	They're eating popcorn like Tom Cooper.
	Yeah, it's honestly an unfortunate trend, and it needs to stop.
	Well, we got to get him back jumping off these towers.
	You got to get around the roof of a tall building.
	Hey, come on.
	What is crazy to me is that Steven thinks that he acts like Trump doesn't have any negative real history.
	Like, it's not like this is littering.
	This is he was legitimately determined to have committed rape by a jury.
	Do you want to talk about smoke with Trump, though?
	There's so much of it.
	He groped someone on a flight.
	He said, I'm going to be dating that girl in 10 years.
	Of course.
	I go in all the time to the Miss Universe and see the nicotine's will.
	Yeah, Miss Utah said that he kissed her directly on the lips repeatedly without consent.
	He said, When you're a star, you can do anything, grab them by the pussy.
	He said that.
	He did.
	I don't think he denied that, right?
	Right.
	This wasn't like a single littering thing or a single bar fight.
	And a bar fight's a pretty big deal.
	Well, with a buddy, though, said Steven.
	Oh, if you're not a buddy.
	If you're assaulting your friends, it's fine.
	They were shooting a YouTube prank together.
	And that is fun.
	Me and Vitaly were in a tussle.
	Now, this is just.
	Now one of us is in fucking prison in another country.
	But Dally's lost 50 pounds because he, I think.
	No, he's in the Philippines.
	Yeah.
	Remember that week he was going nutso in the Philippines?
	Yeah, now he's still there.
	Yeah, geez.
	Let's pardon Vitali.
	He hasn't gotten deleted.
	We got to pardon Vitali, guys.
	I feel like all the media is baiting Trump and be like, would you pardon so-and-so?
	He'll pardon anybody.
	let's go back to this dumb analogy about littering and what did he say, fighting your buddy.
	And now you can trick the mainstream public into thinking that that guy's.
	Now you're a rapist.
	I don't think that that's really what we're talking.
	A plus B equals rape.
	If you've littered and you got in a little tussle in a bar with your friend for YouTube.
	Well, now you're a rapist.
	I can convince anyone.
	Honestly, I'm sold, Steven.
	Great work.
	Yeah.
	First off, it is 0% surprising that President Trump's name is in the files.
	Of course, it would be.
	Yeah, and you might have had a little bit of foresight on that one, Stephen.
	Oh, no.
	Come let Zoltar does remove.
	Crowder called it.
	The next piggy ball, right past the flag.
	We're going to win the game, I guarantee.
	And so the left plays this game.
	Look, connection to Epstein.
	Reported him.
	He may never, I can't definitively say this, but there's a strong chance that Epstein may never have been caught or nothing would have stuck at all if not for Donald Trump.
	Guarantee you he's in the files.
	For that reason, is there another one?
	I doubt it.
	I'm going to the next piggyball.
	Right past the flag.
	We're going to win the game, I guarantee.
	Of course, he would be in the files because he was the one person who cooperated with the authorities, kicked him out.
	It would be impossible for him to not be in the files.
	This is not true.
	There is no evidence that Trump ever cooperated with authorities surrounding Jeffrey Epstein.
	Sure.
	And Stephen says that with confidence.
	Of course he does.
	I don't know where he heard it.
	He does due diligence.
	He said due diligence earlier in the show.
	Well, I mean, and I've only done, I don't know, hours of research.
	Is that due diligence, though?
	It's due diligence.
	That's due diligence.
	That's dude diligence, man.
	That's due diligence.
	But no, I don't think that Trump has ever gone to, say, the FBI to talk about this.
	Someone that did, though, Maria Farmer, she talked about a time that she was oggled by Donald Trump, remember?
	Cash Patel's lazy eye.
	No.
	She actually urged the FBI to look at Trump's connections to Epstein twice.
	I don't know why they didn't follow up on that.
	Well, she's a lying woman, dude.
	Excuse me?
	Women don't tell the truth.
	That's the thing.
	This is the time when she was in Epstein's Manhattan office and Trump was there.
	He walked in in a business suit and stared at her legs.
	Remember that?
	Okay, yeah, yeah, of course.
	She, quote, felt already kind of intimidated because it was in a dark office and she was alone with her new boss.
	And yeah.
	Who's her boss?
	Epstein was her boss.
	This is really wild to me to think, to be so delusional that you think Trump is in there because he's like the hero of the Epstein files.
	Well, and you also have to remember the initial thoughts about Trump and Epstein and the fracture of their relationship in the early 2000s.
	It was always rumored that Trump thought Epstein was a creep because of an inappropriate behavior that he had towards a guest's daughter.
	That was always the thought.
	There was never any quote from Trump on that.
	There was never any evidence of that.
	But things got cleared up recently when Trump broke down the reason behind his falling out with Epstein.
	Yeah, about how he was taking girls from his spa.
	He kept telling Jeff he can't be taking employees, hiring, stealing people, I think is what he said.
	Not my 13-year-old.
	You can't be stealing.
	My 13-year-old.
	I found that.
	When questioned about Virginia Jeff Ray, one of the Epstein victims who sadly died by suicide, well, I'm not going to get into conspiracy.
	But yeah.
	You know.
	Okay.
	The nudge.
	Not too long ago, he says, I think, yeah, I guess she did work in the spa.
	Yeah, he went from, I don't know.
	Yeah, I do know with certainty.
	I know for sure.
	And then that's when he, quote, kicked him out of a club.
	I didn't want anything to do with him.
	That was many years ago.
	That was before this whole thing.
	Go home, Jeff, you drunk.
	But I will see you tomorrow.
	He didn't give a fuck about the people who were being taken.
	He cared that they were being taken from him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Stephen thinks he's a hero.
	He is a hero.
	Tied a bandana around his head.
	They were sold to me fair and square, Jeff.
	Get your dirty, filthy paws off my teenagers.
	These are my teens.
	It's disgusting.
	And I think if I was a Trump fan.
	In that little brick of video that we saw talking about what's the gal's name?
	Virginia Jeff Ray.
	How quickly he was like, I don't know, to like, maybe, to yes.
	To yes, of course.
	He's known for sure for a long time.
	Like, the clip is like two minutes long.
	It's like every 30 seconds he's like, yeah, let me walk a little further into this.
	It's like, actually, no one's like, no one's twisting your arm to say this shit.
	He's willingly saying it.
	He's putting it out there.
	This is something that I remember with his fucking syphilitic ass fucking brain.
	This is something that I can recall still.
	And they're just getting it out of him.
	That's what I can't understand.
	It's like it's in plain sight.
	Well, we're hearing it.
	He's saying as much.
	Imagine running a spa, and you find out that a prolific sex trafficker of children was taking teenage talent from your spa.
	And then imagine caring not about the people and not even feeling like not even resting on the stage.
	What are those teenagers even doing working?
	Like, imagine, though, like, not, he, he didn't come forward with that information.
	We've been talking about the whole time, like, that he's, that there's this rumor that he's some sort of underground hero.
	Well, it's like two slave owners arguing over stealing a slave, and then you're saying he's not a slave owner, he's a thief.
	Yeah.
	Like, if I was a Trump fan, I would look at this moment and be like, Jesus Christ, like, really?
	So you knew the whole time that Jeffrey Epstein was hiring underage.
	Here's what they think.
	They think one of two things.
	They either think A, he was doing it as like some FBI informant bullshit.
	But he's no evidence to that, yeah.
	Or they think he just thought that this girl was working for Jeff and didn't know Jeff was a pervert.
	But he knew Jeff was a pervert in 2007, though, a couple years later.
	But they don't care about that.
	That's what they're believing.
	I'm putting myself in his shoes, though.
	I would feel so complicit to that.
	Of course.
	Deep shame supporting that.
	Yeah, but that's not what people who voted for Trump feel ever.
	And that's not what Trump himself feels ever.
	He hired help, and I said, don't ever do that again.
	He stole people that worked for me.
	But my thought would be like full circle, right?
	Like, so this man was like coming in and taking these girls out of a place that you are running or that you owned.
	He's probably not managing it or something, but it's like, if these girls are like really that young, why are they working there?
	What are they doing?
	You know what I mean?
	Like all of it.
	It's like they shouldn't be there if they're that young.
	Because it seems like a spa is like an adult.
	I mean, like, obviously teenagers can go to the spa or something.
	But yeah, are you like changing the water out in the cucumber refreshments or something?
	All things considered, I think there's plenty of reasons for a 16-year-old to be legitimately working in a spa.
	Maybe not, though.
	I would say there's plenty of illegitimate sensation.
	There's only a handful of jobs that they could do.
	You couldn't be a masseuse at that age.
	Yeah, you couldn't be doing a station or doing any massage therapy or anything like that.
	But you could be cleaning.
	You could be running front desk.
	Let's just assume that as someone that's underage, you wouldn't be touching customers.
	They should work at a hot dog and a stick, though.
	I fully agree.
	I think that's a, that's a path that doesn't, Dennis owns a spa.
	I worked at a spa when I was 15.
	That wasn't where I was going with that.
	You're a prolific hirer of miners, is what I'm saying.
	All right.
	They're not done playing defense, right?
	Of course not.
	It's quarter one.
	We're on two and 69.
	Now, no one is alleging that he's done anything untoward.
	There are going to be a bunch of people in the files, by the way, who didn't necessarily do anything wrong.
	If they were ever introduced to Epstein or before they figured out his game, they'll be in the files.
	Right.
	So first, let me go through the untruth versus what we actually know, and then we'll go to the poor handling of it.
	So some of the untruths.
	The alleged birthday letter, right, to Epstein, the Wall Street Journal.
	They're being sued.
	It was, as far as we know, confirmed to be fake, confirmed to be inauthentic, and they knew it and ran it anyway.
	That's important to remember for the later case, because if you knowingly run information that is not only false, but low confidence and you are irresponsible, you will be held liable.
	The body letter, the birthday letter from Jeff's 50th birthday in 2003, put together by Ghislaine Maxwell.
	Multiple reputable outlets, including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times CNN, Reuters.
	Routers?
	Reuters?
	Reuters.
	Thank you.
	They've all seen it.
	And a handful of other people have seen it.
	it's still stuck in my head.
	His signature over the pubic region of a drawing of a woman.
	I haven't seen it.
	Well, it hasn't been put out yet publicly.
	It will come out, it would be my guess.
	But yeah, New York.
	He apparently signed his name where the pubic region was.
	Nice to censor it.
	What?
	To censor it?
	No, it just could be because his signature looks like spiky pubic hair.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah.
	And I can't unsee it.
	Oh, I see.
	I get that now.
	Yeah.
	Do you have style ears?
	Mine?
	Yeah.
	I don't know if we got into this last time, but I used hair gel.
	We actually talked about.
	We did, actually.
	Yeah, we did a little bit of it.
	We talked about how Byron does a palm tree.
	And then I also mentioned the Playboy Punny head.
	Oh, this is kind of like a classic.
	Classic tanning.
	Oh, I just love about this clip.
	He said, we're going to talk about what's true and what's not true.
	And then later on he says, as far as we know.
	No.
	Which is like, that's not true.
	The only thing that he's pulling his truth of this situation from is the mouth of Donald Trump.
	Yeah.
	And Caroline Levitt.
	Did you say Trump complimented her mouth specifically?
	I heard that compliment to lips.
	Jesus Christ, really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's really weird to say about something.
	Imagine locking in on doing a slow-motion zoom in your mind on Caroline Leffitt's mouth.
	I just think about like, if I told anyone ever they had nice lips, they'd be like, what the fuck?
	Excuse me?
	Yeah, how about don't do that?
	Do y'all like find her like hard to look at?
	Oh, she's terrible to see with my eyes.
	Yeah.
	She just has like these mannerisms that are like so fucking bizarre, but I feel like it's because like her face doesn't move correctly.
	She has a bitchy vibe.
	Okay.
	Come on.
	Come on, man.
	All right.
	Let's move on.
	In the 1990s, this is another thing that's just out there.
	It's circulating.
	They add all this up.
	Maria Farmer said that Epstein brought her into a room and told Trump she's not here for you when Trump was at an office.
	Again, this is something that's completely unsubstantiated.
	She claims that she asked the FBI to look into Trump.
	All right.
	That doesn't necessarily mean anything.
	And if someone wants to, if someone wants to vilify a political enemy or someone to disagree with, you can ask the FBI to look into Gerald.
	Please do, by the way.
	No, why?
	She even said.
	What are you hiding?
	Yeah.
	What are you hiding?
	That's exactly what a guilty person would say.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, let me guess.
	You didn't murder?
	Are you a murderer?
	It's time for me to go to Israel.
	Are you a murderer?
	Have you ever committed murder?
	No, I have not.
	That's exactly something a murderer would say.
	Wait, what?
	So, yeah, yeah.
	Like, he's going to say, I did it.
	Let me watch the video and see.
	This lady even said she had no evidence of Trump wrongdoing.
	Maria Farmer, political time traveler, went back to 1996 to talk to the FBI about this.
	Of course, dude.
	And it's political.
	It's all staged.
	It's all a game.
	And the media is complicit because Maria Farmer went back in time, knowing that Donald Trump would be the future president three, should have been four times.
	Honestly, Rupert Murdoch, too, which is really weird.
	Is that a Peter Thiel thing?
	Probably.
	I bet he has a time that he built, dude.
	The new article says that in May, Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files.
	Many other high-profile figures were also named.
	Trump was told.
	Being mentioned in the records isn't a sign of wrongdoing.
	They told the president at the meeting that the files contained what officials felt was unverified hearsay about many people, including Trump, who had socialized with Epstein in the past.
	This is not new.
	Some of the officials said this.
	Okay, one of the officials familiar with the document said they contain hundreds of other names.
	And many, many times of Trump being mentioned that are no longer there because they've been redacted.
	Yeah.
	And just because it's not indicative of wrongdoing doesn't mean that it is absolving of wrongdoing either.
	And Stephen's acting like it is.
	The strangest thing is every time he's talked about the Epstein files, at least in serious sit-downs, he's said, oh, yeah, release all the credible stuff.
	Yeah.
	Which is such a crazy spin on this, implying that if there's anything wrong that he gets implicated in, it's not credible.
	It's a lie.
	And can we get a couple thousand people to start redacting these files now?
	Get Bongino in here.
	We're going to go.
	Sir, he's crying in his car.
	Sir, he really is having a lot of trouble with this.
	He's having a hard time.
	His head is growing in size.
	But let's be clear.
	Let's be clear.
	So to be clear, the birthday letter, which would signify that he's friends with him, not true.
	Allegations that he seemed like he wanted to sexually assault me, even though it didn't happen and there was no evidence, untrue.
	But you've been hearing these things drip, drip, drip, drip, drip.
	And the truth is, of course, he's in the files because he knew Epstein and He kicked them out of Mar-a-Lago and he dealt with the authorities.
	Nope.
	Do not separate these two things.
	Just a lot of lying and lying about lying.
	Yeah, he did not say as far as we know, but he said that so many times.
	As far as we know, as far as we know.
	The book's not real because Trump said it isn't.
	Yep.
	Maria Farmer's lying, even though she said it is true.
	Yep.
	We got to get Von Gino out of the car.
	Get him out of the way.
	Because it's not a good look.
	Someone get him some tissue.
	Get him back in here.
	Tell him that he can have his show back on Rumble when he's going to.
	Cry in the walk-in like a real man.
	Got to squeeze his head.
	Get those tears out.
	Now let's go to the handling of this.
	It's been awful.
	But I understand it.
	President Trump would be rightfully anxious, concerned, going, "Oh, no, the media's going And he knows that this could be Russia Gate 2.0.
	Which would be probably the best thing for Donald Trump.
	That would be the best case scenario.
	He would not be anxious about that.
	No.
	He would be fucking thrilled.
	If the Epstein files absolved him of wrongdoing, they'd be out.
	I don't know.
	Part of me, I've been bouncing a theory in my head that he knows that even though, and listen, the Russia, Russia, Russia thing, we know that the Mueller report didn't say that Russia didn't attempt to influence the 2016 election.
	It just said that there was no evidence that it worked and that there's no direct evidence of working with Donald Trump.
	Like a handshake deal, yeah, yeah.
	But that doesn't mean that it wasn't true.
	Like it didn't.
	Yeah, it just means that Trump wasn't the one organizing it directly.
	And the results of that, though, have been arguably pretty fucking awesome for Donald Trump.
	He gets to run on everything being a hoax.
	Yeah.
	The amount of times that he brings up Russia, Russia, Russia, the steel dossier, and her emails, like that's campaign stuff.
	The best thing for him would be for this Epstein stuff to be a hoax.
	Yeah.
	But he doesn't think it is.
	He does not think it is.
	Like it's very clear.
	It's very clear.
	I've never seen an anxious Donald Trump before.
	And that's what makes this moment stand out so much to me.
	Yeah, having to feel like you have to dig up information, I guess, from 20 years ago that has six months, seven months into this man's presidency, his second term here.
	Like the amount of damage that he's done to our institutions, it's going to take a generation or more to like get it back, probably.
	It's just not going to be like, you know, Democrats win and we could just turn the Democratic machine back on.
	It's like these things are fucked up.
	Luckily, a lot of it was executive orders and those can be reversed, but the damage is still done, like you said.
	I guess what I'm trying to say, I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's like bringing up Obama to this.
	The America that Obama governed is no longer applicable.
	It's no longer a thing because of the Donald Trump protection.
	So it's just like, I don't understand how or why that would even be like the play.
	It's like you just really need to just say the aliens exist at this point.
	Well, and that's been speculated that that might be coming soon because of this.
	Trump's going to distract in as many ways as possible.
	I mean, like, what else they got?
	They finally put out the JFK files or something.
	Like, there's just not really, there's not really anything else that they can go.
	His back's against the wall.
	The entire administration's back's against the wall, but they're going to keep playing it as if the wall does not exist.
	There's still spots around Texas that the wall don't exist in.
	I got to also say, too, the connection is like not good.
	Okay.
	When we're listening to Crowder talk, and he has like the very, you know, his voice goes up and down a lot.
	Sounds like I'm listening to the new fucking goddamn T-Pain.
	It's like, well, you know, we have had a lot of criticisms of, you know, this situation, but it's been handled pretty well.
	I think that's safe to say.
	He's handled it like a pro, personally.
	And he knows that they're going to try and build this case.
	So he tried to get out ahead of it.
	Okay.
	Then he tried to bury it.
	All of those could be kind of permissible.
	In some instances, I get it.
	The problem is that you promised people that you would, and then people in your cabinet promised people that they would release this.
	And then the real problem, and why I think a lot of you are upset, rightfully so, was, and this is an overused word.
	Most people don't even know what it means.
	The gaslighting of his supporters.
	Saying now, well, it's just Democrats who want this.
	They're trying to keep this talking point alive.
	That's not true.
	You know it's not true.
	You've lived it, and now you're being told that you have not lived it.
	That is poor handling, but it doesn't make this guy guilty of anything as it relates to Epstein.
	It doesn't make him guilty.
	None of what he's doing is making him guilty.
	It makes him look guilty.
	Yeah, it makes him look guilty for sure.
	The things he's done might make him literally guilty.
	Well, we're edging closer to it actually being the behavior of a guilty person.
	This is like at a movie where there's like a secret spy and then the secret spy comes out and people find out, oh, he was working for them.
	And then it's like, no, I was working for them to go undercover, but they refuse to break their cover.
	Sure.
	It's like that episode of South Park when there's the terrorists and they need to get to a special key in the back of the Silverwood style place.
	And they refuse to break character, even though there's terrorists coming to kill everybody, but the guys refuse to break character.
	I don't know if I remember that one.
	It's a classic, and I don't know it well enough to talk about it more.
	Jared, do you know what I'm talking about?
	No, I've never.
	God damn it.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But yeah, it's literally like at the end of a movie, like they find out and they're like, I've got all the dirt on you I need.
	But they refuse to break character and they like continue to, is that, Is Trump going to die?
	And people are going to be like, he went all the way to his grave fighting against pedophiles by pretending to be one.
	Yeah, he's a white hat pedophile.
	I think in my head, he never dies.
	He just had to go somewhere else.
	He does the poochie exit.
	I have to go to my home planet now.
	Thank you and goodbye.
	And then they just sort of...
	They kind of cut his body out and sort of just...
	He just goes back to his home planet.
	You guys know that South Park episode?
	No, stop talking about it.
	President Trump told reporters that he had never been informed his name was in the files.
	Bad move.
	On what?
	On a DOJ and FCC.
	On what?
	On what subject?
	Of the review of the files.
	Turn Colonel Pampon.
	A very, very quick briefing.
	Did she tell you?
	What did she tell you about the UN specifically?
	Did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the five instance?
	No, no.
	She's given us just a very quick briefing.
	And in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen, and I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey.
	They were made up by Obama.
	They were made up by the Biden information.
	You know, and we went through years of that.
	Okay.
	Here's what we know now.
	It very much appears like he was told that he was in the files.
	So he lied.
	Well, no, Comey lied.
	Comey lied because he did this, actually, and Obama too.
	Barack Hussein did.
	Oh, Hussein.
	Yeah, I forgot about Hussein Obama.
	He's been claiming a lot recently that the Epstein files were made up by Comey Obama and Biden.
	And it's all part of this Russia, Russia, Russia hoax kind of thing, you know?
	This is the political version of that she believed he lied meme.
	I don't know these memes.
	I don't live on the internet.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Remember, I didn't know anything about the face of the leopard thing.
	I just don't track it.
	I guess I don't know.
	I guess I just am weird.
	No, you're not weird.
	You're like everyone else.
	I'm the weird one.
	Don't, come on.
	Don't make me admit it.
	I guess you just never believe what I said.
	I'll never be just like you, Dennis.
	I'm the one that's weird, okay?
	This is the stuff I have to listen to instead.
	I think if I was a Trump fan right now, I'd feel really super disrespected.
	We've known this for a very long time.
	Oh, see, interesting.
	He's holding up a meme there.
	It's a poster.
	Yeah, so she believed he lied.
	Interesting.
	I've never seen that before.
	But as a Trump fan, we have known for a very long time that he can say anything in his base will believe it.
	But at this point, he's hit the wall of that.
	Some people are like, hey, man, like, actually, like, I don't believe that.
	It's because they're simple lies that he's getting caught in.
	That's the thing that's really standing out for a lot of folks.
	It's a very simple lying about that.
	And it was a really passionate thing in the first place.
	Like, people really believed it hard.
	Yeah.
	It would be like if he said, I lost at 2020 election.
	Like, suddenly said that?
	Yeah, like, people would be like, wait, what?
	Like, I went to jail about that.
	Yeah, like, I lost all my family because of the huge, like, he was like the guy who would bring about the storm.
	And the strangest thing, this Epstein thing doesn't matter to Trump because it's not that big of a deal in his mind.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, it says a lot.
	Yeah, it says a whole bunch.
	None of this means that someone was brought into a room for him to assault.
	None of this means that he was engaged in anything untoward.
	The only thing we absolutely do know is that he didn't like Epstein.
	He confirmed that he was a creep and reported him and dealt with the authorities and cooperated.
	We do know that.
	Yeah.
	The problem is something like this gives the Democrats an in that they are looking for to make this Russia Gate 2.0.
	Right.
	That's the thing.
	Exactly.
	Which is kind of my concern.
	What do you mean?
	That he's going to frame this as Russia Gate 2.0.
	Yeah, well, he is.
	He already is.
	Yeah.
	And that if it worked, that would be bad.
	Yeah, I mean, that definitely would be bad.
	But I think the pressure is staying on this.
	He's still talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
	Yeah, he's losing his ability to control the news cycle as much with this, specifically.
	Kind of rips.
	It does.
	Which is also what Stephen's saying, is that the Democrats are using this as a...
	Like, they definitely have been like, you know, like, oh, I'm going to hop on this and write it.
	I actually don't know.
	I think it's working pretty well.
	I think it's working fine, but it does feel disingenuous because they haven't been actively fighting.
	Twofold, I guess.
	Democrats not really talking about it because they don't, you know, like we just said, like, they don't really have to if people are just doing it for them.
	And maybe also that sort of people on the ground, the working class folks who'd be talking about this, who do feel disenchanted by what they're seeing themselves now.
	And maybe that is breaking some sort of illusion about what they voted for or whatever the fuck.
	But the other side of it is that like when people talk about this and they're like, well, you know, Bill Clinton's probably on there.
	And it's like, yeah, true.
	You know, get this fucking guy out of here if he's on there.
	Fuck the Democrats.
	Yeah.
	It's like, who gives a shit?
	And it's like, is there some amount of like self-preservation that would be there for them not to really be like harping on this?
	And, you know, it's like, especially like younger members of like the House or the Senate, I guess, too, in some instances, that would just be like, well, you know, I know I'm not on there.
	And fuck my colleagues who would be protecting this shit, basically.
	I'd be curious to know something about that.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think that for a lot of folks on the left, it's definitely this like, partly people who are like, hey, this is something that I can definitely use to get voters over to me and get people to trust me and think that I'm on the right path.
	But I think for a lot of them, We don't give a fuck about the older people.
	I think that's how it goes for most situations here.
	I don't think anyone...
	Bernie's on the list, guys.
	Man.
	He's got to go.
	That'd be fine.
	Okay.
	We've got to lock up Bernie.
	Yeah, lock up Bernie too.
	Lock everybody up.
	Honestly, let's lock everyone up.
	I wouldn't care.
	I wouldn't care.
	I would be like, shit, Bernie, that's a thing.
	Go to jail, dude.
	It's like, see, I voted for you.
	But then, you know, then it would still stand that everybody else who would try to point to you as somebody who's.
	Look, you voted for also a pedophile, and you can't be trusted with this.
	It's like, yeah, man, but you voted for the fucking king of pedophiles and Donald Trump.
	You kept voting for the pedophile.
	That's it.
	You supported and backed up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's rough.
	Then, not only President Trump, but the administration, the conservative, the MAGA, the traditional movement, right?
	Everyone agreed that the files needed to be released.
	So if you were president, would you declassify Would you declassify the 9-11 files?
	Yeah.
	Would you declassify JFK files?
	Yeah.
	I did a lot of it.
	Would you declassify the Epstein files?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would.
	Seems pretty cut and dry.
	That brings us to now.
	And this is the one that really bothers People.
	Now, any of you concerned over the files, keep in mind, back then there was enough concern that people were asking him to release the files, and he answered yes.
	This is not a new thing.
	But now, anyone who actually expects there to be releasing of the files, it's actually a Democrat conspiracy to get President Trump.
	I call it the Epstein hoax.
	Takes a lot of time and effort.
	Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had, instead they want to talk about the Epstein hoax.
	And the sad part is it's people that are really doing the Democrats' work.
	They're stupid people.
	Their new scam is what we forever will call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	And my past supporters have bought into this bullshit.
	Hookline and Sinker.
	They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left capital, of course, for eight long years.
	Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work.
	Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success because I don't want their support anymore.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter.
	Imagine voting for that guy and then being like, wait, what?
	Man.
	Dude, I just said, release the list of pedophiles, and now you're mad at me?
	That's weird.
	Also, I love that they said it was very cut and dry when he said yes, but they cut out the part where he was wishy-washy.
	Yeah, immediately after that clip, they cut the context of him saying that.
	Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people who were in there who might not be in there because they're caught up in the list.
	They could be heroes, too.
	Some of the people in that list could be heroes.
	I think that's honestly.
	I'm a hero.
	And if I'm on a list, then I'm a hero.
	I didn't draft Dodge because I'm on the list.
	Also, my feet were.
	I had big feet for my age.
	I have the best feet.
	And actually, I was trying to do foot bottling.
	All right, because my dad, Fred, he knew a lot of foot bottle agencies in the city.
	And when I had a tragic foot accident.
	That's why they're all swollen now.
	They're all swollen now because I'm modeling again.
	WikiFeats is because of me.
	WikiFeets wouldn't exist if it weren't for Trump.
	Does Trump have Wikifeed?
	I bet he does.
	Gerald, though, I love the Gerald perspective.
	So look, I understand that.
	And that pissed me off when I heard it.
	I was like, ugh, don't say it like that.
	Look, if what you were trying to say is that the hoax is that you are in there in some materially bad way.
	Right.
	Fine.
	Say that.
	But right now, everybody's like, wait, you think the Epstein files in general the case?
	Everything that we've been talking about, that's a hoax.
	And I'm now not a supporter because I'm saying I don't think it's a hoax.
	I think it's something that needs to be released.
	It was just very inarticulate or bad.
	Combined with the post of, stop talking about Epstein.
	I know, I know.
	I have had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history.
	And all these people want to talk about is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	Yeah, that's the full context there.
	Cool guy.
	The coolest guy.
	Trump is on WikiFeed.
	Oh, no.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What's the average score?
	And actually, no, don't spoil it.
	Everyone, go to our Twitter at Van Crowder.
	Let us know what your guess is for Trump's WikiFeed.
	And then we'll reveal it next week.
	Great.
	Of course, I gotta know.
	Oh, wow.
	What's rating?
	Out of five stars.
	Okay.
	But so I also just want to add that like the similar feat, if you like this page, you may also want to check out.
	And there's a guy called like Paul.
	Marjorie Taylor Green.
	I wish.
	I wish he was on here.
	There's a guy who looks like he had some sort of like dehabilitating like obesity.
	Like a toe fungus.
	And his and his feet go like two different directions because his body is so wide.
	And then the next one is somebody called Ronnie Gallio.
	Oh, no.
	But he's like a conjoined twin and like the way that his feet hang off of this other, his brother's body.
	They're saying that maybe you would like these if you like Trump's toes.
	All right.
	Dennis has about seven minutes, so we got to keep going.
	Holy shit.
	All right.
	So there was one moment of levity in this that I thought I didn't include.
	But it doesn't look good.
	Yeah, it's like when your wife keeps bringing up your work buddy that you go to movies with.
	And you're like, stop talking about her.
	Yeah, by the way, you and I need to stop going to movies.
	Concerts.
	And here's the thing.
	Why are you at Coldplay concerts all the time?
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Hey.
	Stop talking about Coldplay.
	That just gave me an idea.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, come on.
	Gerald, as a CEO, is all of a sudden concerned.
	Sketch Coldplay.
	I will remember it.
	Remind me.
	Sketch Cold Play.
	Sketch Cold Play.
	Oh, my God.
	They want to do a sketch about the Cold Play thing.
	I hate hearing that because it's going to be bad.
	Well, yeah, this was already.
	They missed their window.
	This doesn't make any sense.
	It's too late.
	It gives me an idea.
	When was this?
	The 24th.
	Oh, my fucking God.
	But that happened during the week of the 12th.
	Yeah, it's old news now.
	Yeah.
	They missed it.
	So it's already a week.
	They missed it by two weeks.
	Basically, almost.
	Yeah.
	Bud, you got to remind me to do remind me.
	Say cold plays.
	See cold play sketches.
	We should do one too.
	Honestly, at this point, we should probably do a cold play.
	We should do a cold play sketch with Steven and us.
	We should have done it when I was there because then we could have like.
	We could have done video work.
	I use a third hand.
	Yeah.
	Like where you and Dennis are holding and then it's me talking to you.
	And then, I don't know, the camera flips around, but we're all in the same room.
	Jared, remind me after this cold play sketch.
	Okay.
	Two things, by the way, can be true at once.
	Okay.
	There can be a legitimate reason that people want the Epstein files.
	Namely, that, hey, who was involved?
	Because if people were getting, I guess, people trafficked to them through Epstein, and he's no longer there.
	I don't know if you know this, but people who love them, underage prostitutes, that's not sort of a hankering that goes away.
	They're probably still getting that from someone else.
	Yeah, despite the chronic release of child molesters in our country, they continue to do it.
	They continue for the rest of their life.
	And if there are people in positions of power and authority and dictating policy nationally or internationally, hey, if you have kids, you probably want to know who it is that you should keep your kids away from on a regular basis, right?
	So that can be true.
	Legit concerns, reasons for wanting it released.
	That has not changed.
	And at the same time, Democrats are absolutely trying to weaponize this, and they're doing it knowingly, dishonestly.
	Maybe knowingly, but not dishonestly.
	I mean, good points there.
	Yeah, I do want to know.
	Yeah, that's why we want the list out.
	So it sounds like you still think we should release the list.
	Except for Ghislaine is innocent.
	I was going to say, yeah, let's release the other one person who's alive that was involved in this.
	Because we agree with this shit.
	Let's just pardon her.
	That is the craz.
	I would have never expected that turn in this story.
	That people would suddenly be saying that, well, maybe, maybe Ghulane Maxwell's totally fine and normal.
	Maybe she's actually a victim in all of this.
	That's what they're saying.
	Insane.
	Insane.
	Like the amount of cope just to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get implicated in any of this.
	It's bonkers.
	And if Trump got implicated, the right is still strong enough to live.
	Of course.
	I think we've outgrown it.
	I mean, Nick Fuentes said it best, which is the never thought I'd say this, but he said Trump was the vehicle to get us in.
	And of course, I don't want that to be true.
	But it is true.
	But it is true.
	Like, Trump is now nothing but a vehicle for more hateful, well, just for anyone else.
	Well, I think he still hangs on to people who are too dumb for politics.
	Yeah.
	Unfortunately, it's a majority of the country.
	Because if we really look at it, only half of the country votes anyway.
	Yeah.
	And of that half of the half, I would say, oh, God, I'm going to get myself in a basket of deplorable situation here, so I'm going to move on.
	And here's what it is.
	I bet you, because there's a legal case to be made that these files can't be released, I think that you could probably release something that would at least satisfy the people who have some questions and redact some information.
	I know some people would never be satisfied no matter what it is, but there can be a case that, hey, there's some information that can't be released.
	I bet you Democrats at this point know that they're not going to be released.
	So everyone is bluffing.
	Right now, like, why don't you release it?
	Why don't you release it?
	Because they know that they're protected.
	Their names won't go public.
	So it's a hold me back, bro.
	Hold me back.
	They have no intention of actually wanting these to be released and they don't want these to be released.
	Wait, the Democrats are bluffing?
	Are they the ones who are in control of this?
	Yeah, they are for sure.
	Excuse me?
	Here's the thing that's bullshit about all of this is that Stephen's issue here is that one of my issues is that it's not that no one will be satisfied with the release, but there's not a chance in the world that you can release the Epstein files without some people coming down, like being brought down by them.
	And that's the level of satisfaction I think people are looking for.
	And I think everyone agrees with this: if you arrest and charge the kingpin of the sex trafficking ring and you release the files, the pins need to fall.
	People need, like, the things need to, nobody, uh, if nobody's implicated in the release of the files, then we will know that they're bullshit.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	It's like if you found out that a serial killer, you finally arrest a serial killer, but there's no bodies ever.
	Yeah, there's no one knows who was killed, but just we know that there was a killer.
	I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with that.
	People need to be actually like brought to justice.
	That's all.
	People want justice.
	Are you leaving, Dennis?
	He's putting his shoes on.
	It is.
	Well, he's got about 60 seconds, but we should be fine.
	This must be really hard for all of them.
	It has to be hard because they have to justify what Trump's doing.
	Yeah.
	And they don't have to.
	Just like I would like Bill Clinton to be, if he was involved in this, yeah, sent him to prison.
	It's interesting to see now because right now, we're at a point like when we saw Biden at the debate and Biden was like, did fucking terrible.
	No, he didn't.
	We didn't have that level of cope.
	You know, we were like, fuck, this is bad.
	What are they going to do?
	And you can go watch that at Shrug.club.
	Our disappointment is palpable.
	Yes, yeah.
	And it was immediate and honest.
	They are spinning this.
	They got it on the spin cycle, dude.
	Uh-huh.
	Turning it up.
	These people, we know that they're not as fucking stupid as they're trying to make themselves sound right now.
	And I guess that's why it's like the dishonesty is hits a little harder because it's like, you guys know what you're doing by saying this shit.
	They're dumb fucking idiots, but it's like they're not so stupid that they don't understand like what this implies.
	This is propaganda.
	Yep.
	It's propaganda.
	And this is our last clip.
	Now, now it's Republicans.
	It's, by the way, it's everyone here.
	It's including someone like me who recreated to the centimeter Jeffrey Epstein's cell to see if I could hang myself in the manner that he did.
	We're all child molester supporters and pedophiles who don't want the release of files.
	I don't want to get too critical of his wonderful execution of the staged mock suicide of.
	This is what we covered last week.
	Oh, I missed that.
	Oh, you haven't listened.
	You're going to love this episode.
	No.
	I did a little bit of digging into the dimensions of Jeffrey Epstein's cell.
	He did not do this down to the centimeter.
	He went to Home Depot and they sell 2x4s in 8 feet measurements.
	That's all.
	He built an 8x8 box with a fake bunk and tried to hang himself on air, by the way, break his own neck, which was pretty exciting.
	If you missed that episode, I think everyone should go back and check that out.
	You unfortunately know how it ends.
	Yeah, because here we are in the thread.
	This is a new episode.
	I mean, the problem is that he also, like, I don't know.
	I don't want to do spoilers, Dennis, but he was running in 2019 on the idea that Jeffrey Epstein died by doing a leaning neck break.
	And he doesn't bring up the fact that that was disproven and not the reality of the situation.
	Sure.
	But he does say that he reproduced it down to the centimeter.
	So just want to say he didn't.
	That's all.
	And that he's still living in that world.
	Yeah, one of our quieter than Crowder said that they truly believe that Steven thinks that that was a scientifically accurate demonstration.
	Yeah, I mean, truly, maybe that's probably it.
	I don't know.
	What an embarrassing moment.
	Then and now.
	That's all I can handle this week.
	If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	I also realized after listening to all these clips that I listened to all of these clips.
	So I must have listened to more of the episode than I thought.
	You would go to sleep to it like I do.
	No, no, definitely not.
	That was my mind.
	That is really sad.
	It does make me sick.
	Incept your dreams.
	Reach out to me.
	Dennis is looking left and he's got a gun holster.
	He's looking right.
	He's got another gun holster.
	They're both empty.
	Where am I?
	Where am I?
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, no.
	He looks up.
	It's Pops Crowder.
	But he's like the Hatman, though.
	There's a guy in a lemon shirt making a shh.
	Yeah, that'd be cool.
	Man, feel free to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
	That's a free thing that you can do that helps us out a lot.
	Indiana Jared, actually.
	J-R-D, I'm assuming it's Jared.
	Jared gave us a review here and honestly bumped us back up to 4.0 by the way.
	Finally.
	Yeah, we jumped back up with this one.
	Thank you.
	Five stars.
	Tough gig, but they do a good job.
	I can barely stomach Crowder for even a moment.
	Somehow, these guys make it entertaining and informative.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you so much.
	Very kind of you.
	You're not a fucking dip shit like the other guy.
	What?
	Shitbag hack.
	You're a shitbag hack, Indiana Jared.
	Wonderful.
	Is that what review people are going to be?
	Oh, maybe they can.
	If you write a review, you're a shitbag hack if you piece of shit if you're a drug clubber.
	What a piece of shit.
	Find us on X at VanCrowder, louderthancrowder.com, louderwithcrowder.net.
	We're back in it, folks.
	And I hate that we are.
	Yep.
	We might time travel.
	This is just, listen, not worth talking about.
	They didn't provide us any evidence other than repeating what Donald Trump said as if it was fact.
	I think that the, as far as we know, is the synopsis of this.
	Yeah, that's kind of cool.
	Just reporting on what I've heard from other sources.
	Other source.
	What?
	Until next time, I'm Byron.
	I'm Dennis.
	I'm Jared.
	Shrug Rats to the library.
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