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June 29, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder
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EPISODE 67: IRAN SO FAR (JUNE 18TH, 2025)

On the edge of fresh conflict, and conservative civil war, the gang comes together to rationalize aggression, going to bat for uneasy behavior. And or this...they filled third chair with the big guns...the latest additional to the Lineup.  Like what we're doing?  Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub  Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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My name's Byron.
Across from me, it's going to body armor.
It's Dennis.
Oh, man, my body.
It's not going to protect you.
What?
Really?
No.
And our lone star brother all the way in Occupied Texas.
It's Jared.
I got an Arnie Palmer.
Okay.
Arnie Palmer.
Yeah.
What's his name?
Palmer.
Arnie Palmer.
He's got a huge dick, according to Trump.
Arnie Palmer.
Is that right?
That's right.
I forgot about that.
American hero, yes.
Do you think John Daly's packing heat?
I don't know.
All immediately backtracked.
Yeah, fuck it.
And our sleepy streak continues as the busy boys return to discuss the show proper.
What did we miss while we were exploring the perimeters?
Hmm.
A re-upload of Steven's myth busting of the Epstein suicide.
That was Gerald apologizes apologetics with bloodsport debater Andrew Wilson.
Glad we skipped that.
Face says you don't know.
I don't know, I guess.
Oh, wow.
The whole Elon versus Trump arc, we skipped over that.
I'm glad we did.
Me as well.
I don't think it would have added much to the conversation.
There was also that four-hour live stream that I mentioned last week, Ice Riots.
What are those?
Not terribly eventful situations involving people standing up for what they believe in.
Okay.
Followed by an equally uneventful No Kings Day five-hour live stream.
Okay.
More of the same, but Data Republican was the guest for a little bit.
Remember them?
I do.
And the interpreter wore a less revealing top this time after Steven's pretty gross comments.
Just a quick observation.
Oh, geez.
But we're officially back in it and right on time.
It's June 18th, which is today.
Tucker Carlson blasts Ted Cruz on Iran what this exchange really means.
We're returning to our favorite time slot on the Rumble lineup.
And guess what?
What?
The lineup is expanding.
Finally.
Ah, yeah.
Are they going every other day?
Welcome to the lineup live on Rumble 9 a.m.
Eastern.
Now all the way up until 7.
What?
8 p.m.
Eastern because we've added Andrew Wilson and then Nick DiPaolo, who, by the way, is in third chair today.
So hold on to your butts.
Hold up.
Nick Dip has his own show on there now?
You get the butts.
Finally.
Well, I think he's just moving his normal show into that time slot.
Does he have a show?
Yeah, he's had his own show.
I think it was the only additional show that still remained as part of the Mug Club.
Remember that saga?
Yeah.
Mr. Guns and Gear.
The Mug Club was exclusively Nick Dip for a while.
Yeah, and he was just kind of shouting into a vacuum.
Imagine paying $9.99 a month for Nick Dip.
Well, remember, it was the Hodge Twins and then a lie about Jim Brewer.
Alex Jones was going to be in there.
He was going to, of course, and that didn't happen.
He shut up a couple times.
Brian Callan for a bit, too.
Oh, yeah.
I see ads for him on Pluto TV all the time.
But Callan's mom called him and she was like, hey, are you sure you should be doing this?
You're embarrassing yourself and it's bad.
Just so you know, there's a Pluto TV ad that shows that clip.
Oh, really?
The cow clip?
Yeah, he's like, who's the cow or whatever?
Yeah.
It's probably the dumbest ad I've ever seen for a podcast because they do this clip thing where they cut out clips that are funny, you know?
Sure.
But they're not funny.
Like they need context and they don't give him context.
He's like, I'll do anything.
You know that.
And then it shows like the cow clip.
Nick's moving into primetime.
Is Russell Brand still on it?
Still on it, yeah?
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Quartering.
Free speech, baby.
That vampire.
Oh, Vince.
Is Zavita still hanging out?
Yeah, I believe so.
You mean Dan Mongino?
Yeah, Dan.
So I'm not sure if we've talked about Andrew.
Dennis' face says, I don't know this guy.
He's the host of the YouTube show The Crucible.
Jared, does that ring a bell?
Frequent guest?
Yeah, actually, I know him as like the 46-year-old on The Whatever podcast.
Exactly.
Frequent guest on the whatever podcast.
Don't know that one.
One of those Manosphere style shows, kind of like Fresh and Fit, where they invite 10 beautiful women on the show and yell at them about their lifestyles.
Yeah, like that one that we covered from Matt Walsh.
Remember the Matt Walsh clip we covered?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I kind of like that guy.
That sounds like a really cool show.
Do you guys want to change to Manosphere show?
Yeah, I got to start inviting my female friends to yell at them.
Yeah, I thought it'd be good to maybe just subscribe to some OnlyFans just to insult them.
That'd be cool.
We could rent ourselves a Miami condo to shoot out of.
Hell yeah.
Like that one guy who used to always tell me to get a Ferrari like him.
Ty Lopez?
Yes, Ty Lopez.
Yeah.
I think, why didn't that guy take off more during this period of pure hell on the internet?
He just was too early.
Maybe he didn't sell his soul together.
He was just too early, man.
That's it, I think.
I think that if he started trying to tell people to buy Ferraris, talk in front of a bookshelf, his bookshelf by his garage or whatever.
He's 50.
Ty?
Yeah.
Damn.
Damn.
Well, he's 48.
I don't want to give 50 too much credit.
But people are also searching for Elon Musk, Dan Locke, Grant Cardone.
Cardone.
I don't know.
Don't know him.
And Gary Vaynerchuk.
Do we know these guys?
I know Gary Vee.
That would be Vaynerchuk or whatever.
There's something wrong with his head in this picture.
All right.
Well, leave that alone.
So, Andrew, though, he made a name for himself by leaning heavy into culture wars, coming from a very traditional Christian perspective, which, of course, makes everything he says right because it's literal interpretations of the Bible.
Yeah, the Bible says it's right.
And the Bible cannot be disputed.
Well, he debates a bit like Jordan Peterson.
Have you watched his parenting show yet?
No, the one on the Daily Wire.
Daily Wire Plus, maybe?
Not yet.
Use promo code.
I don't know.
I'm here to talk about child rearing.
I don't like that.
Give it up.
Great.
Obnoxious style debater.
I think he's been on a couple Jubilees.
Andrew Wilson has?
Yeah, I can't remember any specific moments.
If you saw a picture of him, Dennis, you could take a second, pull him up.
I bet I know.
He takes an absurd stance from a position you can't really debate and then pretends like he's won.
Dumb people like Pierce Morgan think he's talented.
I think he's exhausting.
Also, he struggled to open a pickle jar the other week on the whatever podcast.
I can't grip the fucker.
Uh-oh.
Like, I gotta have a way to grip it.
Jungle.
I'm sorry.
My fingers slip right back against Hair Soup.
Is he a Luke and Owen guy?
Is he related to Luke and Owen?
What?
Andrew Wilson?
No, I don't think he's part of the win.
Andrew Wilson, and I see tons of Andrew Wilson, Luke Owen, and Andrew Wilson.
He's the fourth brother?
That would rule on his.
You got the guy that was in Bottle Rocket, and then you have Andrew after that one.
Huh.
Maybe I found the wrong guy.
I think you're looking at the wrong guy.
It's not the right guy, yeah.
Look up Andrew Wilson Debate, and then he's Andrew Wilson Crucible.
It's just idiocracy.
Dude, I don't think you're looking at the internet.
You're on the wrong internet.
Yeah, dude.
I don't know this guy.
Continue.
Okay, I will continue.
We'll continue running down the show in a moment.
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That'd be sick.
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The NRA, dude.
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Grab your mugs because.
Donald Trump just gave a response on Iran.
This just happened.
We're going to run that for you.
We're bringing it into the system right now.
A lot has been made.
Let me start with this.
Lindsey Graham's a wiener.
Okay.
No one likes him.
On that, we can find some common ground.
Well, the clip's in the system.
This is how we start?
Yeah.
Lindsey Graham's a wiener.
A wiener, and we're putting the most recent comments of Donald Trump on our.
I was having such a good time until we had to hear that other wiener's voice.
I forgot we were doing this show.
I know.
We were having a great time chit-chatting, but unfortunately, we do got a time.
Steven.
Yeah, the great uniter.
Lindsey Graham is a wiener.
He is a wiener.
No one really likes Lindsey Grandma.
Nobody is Graham, right?
And I feel like he's looking inflamed.
Oh, really?
Like, he just seems kind of like puffy.
Yeah, puffy.
Like, he's been drinking it.
Like, he's got some sort of autoimmune situation going on.
I mean, I would normally say I hope he's okay, but I don't.
Like, I don't fucking care if he's fine or not.
Like, his skin is getting tighter and Mitch McConnell's skin is getting looser, which is...
Yeah, it's weird.
I mean, the guy's a terrible dude.
Yeah.
Do you think that Trump was talking about Lindsey Graham about the Oz Epic?
Do you think that might have been it?
I'm just throwing it out there.
When Trump calls someone fat, I don't think it's typically someone the size of Lindsey Graham.
Yeah, Lindsey Graham's not fat.
Looks like he's been out in the sun.
He does look chat.
He is puffed up.
Yeah.
All right.
He's not fat.
It's weird.
Other than Iran, though, the bulk of our show today is going to be about Tucker's interview with Ted Cruz, which is making the rounds.
Is it in good faith?
Is it gotcha?
I don't know.
I don't know if you remember this.
It's Gay Pride Month.
It still is that thing.
So we're going to skip that segment again.
Okay.
Which part?
The gay pride stuff, because clearly they're not going to have anything good to save us.
Of course not.
It seems like maybe this month they've ran out of domestic clips of people celebrating pride.
Oh, have they?
Yeah, so they went international showing Muslims celebrating pride in Germany.
And they thought that was funny.
And it's always just a good excuse for him to do his Hitler accent because he believes that the only way that German people speak.
They're just now finding out that like countries that will Chick-fil-A you in their whatever their analogy is.
Yeah.
These places that have people living in them.
Sure.
It's really hard for them to visualize what the world is like outside of Texas.
For the most part.
Yeah, beyond their nose is nuts.
It sure is.
It reminds me of when a celebrity is surprised that someone doesn't know who they are.
You know those kind of stuff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That reminds me, I once saw this video of people getting rick rolled in real life.
They'd show up in an elevator and Rick Astley would start singing.
Okay.
But you could tell that people didn't quite know it was Rick Astley.
Yeah.
So they thought there's some guy right on the elevator and was like, I know you know the rules and so do I. What the hell?
They're like, what the hell?
That's how I feel like they see the world as someone on an elevator having Rick Astley sing to them, not knowing who Rick Astley is.
Well, my world has gone a little bit dark lately.
Has it?
I'm getting a bit starved for the produced elements of the show.
Sure.
Yeah, the cold opens have not had any charm.
Maybe because they're understaffed.
I don't know.
Listings for video editors and videographers are still up if you weren't looking for a gig.
Did they hear a complaint?
Do you want to go infiltrate?
I mean, I've considered it, of course.
I think I've mentioned that in the past.
I did also look at their glass door today.
No one's really said anything.
Really?
Yeah, unfortunately.
I feel like that might be part of their NDA, you know?
Sure.
Either way, this is what we got this week.
That girl went in.
Listen, I appreciate the new washing machine you found for me, but I really need to drive, too.
Damn it, woman.
You know it's between 11 a.m.
Eastern to 1 p.m., which means I'm launching Lighter with Prouder Live on the Rumble lineup.
You know that's my routine, and I get upset when you disrupt it.
We've been through this, and we don't need a f ⁇ ing dryer, Josephine.
That's what the ropes are for.
String it out.
There's a storm coming, home.
Can't you string it out?
I'll string you up, you fat bus.
I will string you up, you fat m****, if I can find a bungee cord that will handle the f****** weight!
*music*
Cool.
Yeah.
That was good.
That was good acting.
He said fat bitch a couple times.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
Just another domestic abuse bit.
I couldn't even see it, but I...
I don't know if I like that.
Fire.
That was stupid fucking open.
It's just a bad show, and then he goes on to click.
He's wearing a hat and he's got jeans and boots on or something.
something like that.
I mean, maybe he's making commentary about...
You dumb bitch.
Does he realize that he's like painting his fans like that?
I don't even know what the intention is.
It's disorienting that he thinks that this is like...
He should have guys watching it in a cigar club or something.
Sure.
I mean, there's other ways to do this.
Like, I mean, if you want to attack the left, like do a stereotype about the left.
No, no, not at all.
But he's like not doing anything.
It's just a new guy.
He's just got a new guy.
The whole point of that was to promote the showtime.
That's it.
Yeah, yeah.
He promotes the showtime and then says that you can sign up for Rumble Premium and get twice as much content.
I wonder who's watching it live, I guess.
Yeah.
Like, it's like that guy.
That's like the only guy who's going to be yelling at their wives.
Yeah.
They don't work.
They're at home at 3 p.m.
And they're yelling at their wives who also don't work to like get in the kitchen or shut the fuck up.
Leave the house or something.
Yeah.
I'll string you up.
Excuse me?
With a bungee cord?
Who wrote this?
Who would string somebody else?
Maybe Nick DePaul.
It smells like Nick DiPaulo wrote this.
All three of them worked on it.
Josh played the wife role and then Nick wrote the daddy role.
And Steve played the omniscient baby in the little jumper.
Oh, man.
It's just bad.
All right.
It's very bad.
It's just bad.
I have, though, found some joy in watching conservatives eat each other lately.
It is very nice.
Yeah, not sure what took them so long or what is causing this tent to shrink.
I'm here for it.
Yeah.
Who is dividing the right?
Because there's a little bit, some people are saying a civil war on the right, and it's that sort of Spider-Man meme of people saying, you, you, you, you, you, you.
Who do you think it is?
You think it's Donald Trump?
Or do you think it's the people who are saying that Donald Trump is a traitor for his position on Iran?
And where do you line up?
I think this is an issue that does require, I hate to use the term nuance, but it does require just two layers deeper than we don't want war.
It's so complicated all of a sudden.
I hate to use the term nuance.
I hate that word.
I don't live in that world.
That's like in the office when Michael says, I would never say this to her face, but she's great.
It's totally fine to use words that actually exist in context in real life.
I don't want to use the word weather because I like to just say the stuff outside.
It's pretty good.
I'm sorry to say weather.
Yeah.
I mean, he's just, I think that they're baffled about what to do in this current situation.
They had just had one of the most traumatic weeks of their lives when Elon Musk and Donald Trump for a second were at the end of the day.
He and the bed were fighting.
Yeah.
Yeah, before Elon got cold feet about it.
Like, let me back in.
It's cold out here.
I bet it triggered some weird trauma for Steven.
He's like, oh, no.
Oh, no.
Is it because of me?
Did I do that?
And that's why he's remembering as the baby in the little jumper guy.
Exactly.
There's a lot more symbolism to that than we know.
Yeah.
Stephen does, though, further solidify his stance on this conflict, which is important.
Because we don't want war, and I don't want a single American body to die for anyone's interests outside of the United States.
That's not the whole story, though, right?
Now, I think we all agree on that, and we all agree again that Lindsey Graham is a wiener.
Well, you are what you eat.
Mitch McConnell?
What?
Ugh.
A lot of uh did he say he didn't want any American bodies to die?
That's such a weird way to phrase that.
I mean, souls can die.
Sure.
The souls can die.
I don't know what he's talking about.
I mean, this whole Iran thing, plus the economy looking shitty, I feel like they're all just experiencing a lot more pressure on conservatism in general.
Sure.
Well, I mean, the time to blame Biden is expiring.
Yep.
When Trump, the so-called, you know.
Don't be so sure, Dennis.
2028.
Biden 2028.
Okay.
I hope he's recharging right now.
He definitely is, dude.
He sleeps for the next three and a half years.
You know what I mean?
Will come for you in the year 2028, Jack.
Oh, man.
Shoots up from his coffin with an ice cream cone in his hand.
Oh, my God.
Glowing aviators.
He turns into the real Dark Brandon.
Finally.
Sorry, Dennis.
Oh, obviously, I hope that Biden is doing the Mewtwo floating in a vat of liquid, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you heard his.
Who else is on the show?
Captain Morgan, CEO, is here and now, of course, host of the show.
Well, with his namesake, it's 6 p.m.
here on the Rumble lineup, live, 6 p.m.
Eastern, and he's going to be at Hyenas Comedy Club in Dallas, Texas, July 12th.
See all his dates, nickdip.com.
Funniest man alive, Nick DiPaolo.
How are you, sir?
Very good.
Thank you.
The next night I'll be in Houston at the, it's called a secret.
What did I say it was?
Secret Garden?
The kid in a wheelchair back there.
He's like, I want to see the petunias, mother.
And just looking up on your ear.
What did I say it was?
The secret room?
For the love of Pete.
I think it's the secret to, it sounds like an eyes wide shut party.
That's what it sounded like.
It was the secret dump.
Okay.
I also love the way that Stephen says, see all his dates.
Yeah.
It sounds like he says, see Alice dates.
Oh, that's kind of like it's like a sponsored.
Yikes, Nick Dip, the spiciest.
I'm going to be in Houston somewhere.
Yeah, fuck.
I love Houston, by the way.
It's a great place.
Yeah, I know.
They've got a good food store.
Fourth largest city in the country.
Wow.
Also, Nick Dip, funniest man alive.
Funniest man alive.
Yeah.
He's not.
Well, let's hold off.
Judgment.
We'll see if he's on fire today.
He's not.
He could be.
I promise you, he's not.
Are you sure?
He's going to tell some, hey, dumb broad, bring me a coffee.
Well, yeah.
How'd you know?
Well, it's been loaded into the system.
This is just in.
Donald Trump was just asked, I believe, about an extended war with Iran.
Is that the question?
I was looking up the flagpoles at the White House, and I think he was asked a question about this.
American flags, right?
Well, not rainbow flags?
I'm pretty sure, knowing the guy.
Well, that's a good start.
Let's see his answer right here.
It's about a minute long.
...with you regardless.
And you've gone through different...
I could say all...
Regardless.
But some of the people in the base don't want a long-term war.
They're afraid that we're going to get into a long-term war.
What are you looking for a long-term war?
I only want one thing.
Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
That's it.
I'm not looking long-term structure.
And I've been saying that for 20 years.
I've been saying it as a civilian who got a lot of publicity.
People would cover it.
Very simply, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
That's it.
It's not a question of anything else.
And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a country because they would use it on us and they'd use it on other people and they'd be a terror all over the world.
So I may have some people that are a little bit unhappy now, but I have some people that are very happy.
And I have people outside of the base that can't believe that this is happening.
They're so happy.
There was a poll that just came out today, and my approval rating is the highest it's ever been.
All I'm doing is saying you can't have a nuclear weapon.
And I tried to do it nicely.
And then on day 61, I said, let's go, because we can't let that happen.
And I've been saying it for 20 years.
There you go.
There we go.
Were they doing that again at the four seasons, total landscaping?
Some guy sawing shit in the back?
Yeah, what the fuck was going on?
Of course, no comment on that.
The saw was brutally ripping through wood in the back.
I don't know.
If it was anyone else, they would have made some sort of Bob the Builder commentary or something, right?
Was one of the village people a construction worker?
Yeah.
Oh, well, then let's just use that then.
Great.
Sounds good.
What were you saying?
I got the best construction worker from the best band of all time.
I love considering them a band.
That's kind of fun.
To me, they're just more of an act.
A group.
An act, yeah, yeah.
A men's group, yeah, a men's right group.
They sure are.
Yeah, people were happier than they've ever been because of this.
Because of what?
Because of Trump's talks about Iran.
That's what he was saying, wasn't he?
Oh, yeah.
Clearly, he's receiving some of the highest approvals of his presidential career.
Yeah.
Wait just a second.
Hold tight.
Wait, what?
Not sure what poll he's looking at, but even Fox News isn't even touching that lie.
This is from today.
Poll position, where Trump stands in the eyes of Americans five months into his second presidency.
The sub-headline here.
President Trump, because he doesn't read this far.
President Trump highlights, quote, highest ever approval despite most recent national polls suggesting otherwise.
Uh-oh, Paul, you're going to get another.
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
Hit it, Paul.
Young man.
Is that the time to do it?
I said, young man.
All right.
Pick it up off the ground.
I said, young man.
I love that you just have to turn on his soothing music and then he stops reading and just starts doing his weird floss.
Get to the dancing.
All right.
Do you think in the future we'll have a Trump dance emote on Fortnite?
I'm going to kill myself before then for sure.
Fuck, man.
it's gonna happen from this article saying when you You can shoot him as a buff Peter Griffin.
So this article.
And then I found a thread posted by Aaron Rupar, he said a journalist, of this specific clip again that we heard a minute ago that Stephen was playing.
It was on X, the everything app, and one of the users there, and I just thought this was fun, said, at Grok, does the felon Donald Trump have some sort of medical condition that causes him to lie every time he speaks?
Got him, dude.
And then Grok responded, saying, no evidence confirms a medical condition causing Donald Trump to lie every time he speaks.
Fact-checking shows he made over 30,000 false or misleading claims during his first term, averaging 21 daily.
That's a lot of lies.
That's two, like almost one an hour.
That's so many lies.
Some suggest traits like narcissism or indifference to truth, but no clinical diagnosis exists.
His felony status stems from a 2024 conviction on 34 counts upheld in 2025.
Claims of a record high approval rating in June 2025 are likely false with polls showing 42 to 46 percent, which is below his 49 percent peak in 2020.
Imagine being a peak of 49 for approval rating.
That's what others have.
I don't give a shit, but like just imagine that.
Biden was up until the pullout from Afghanistan.
But yeah, I mean, being below 50 and somehow winning the popular vote is kind of a crazy wild.
But yeah, you remember Steven's thoughts on disagreement in general?
I mean, he'll be a little bit more likely to do that.
If you disagree, you're the unredeemable enemy.
I didn't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, well, we are the enemy, remember?
Oh, yeah, we are, of course.
I forget I'm the enemy.
Look, you can disagree with Donald Trump's position.
And by the way, I understand disagreement.
Anyone who tells you that Donald Trump has flip-flopped or that Donald Trump has betrayed his voters, if you believe that, and I say this with as much sincerity as I can muster for a comedy show.
If you believe that Donald Trump has switched his stance on Iran, I would strongly suggest double-checking on the sources that you trust to inform you.
Because there is no way you could possibly believe that unless you have been lied to.
How much do you know about Donald Trump's stance on Iran?
I've heard him talk a lot about it.
He's been doing it for a while, over 20 years.
Over 20 years.
I do know that he very clearly said that he's the only person who can prevent World War III.
He did say that.
He is.
This tone that Stephen's taking with this is the most like, I can't hear him because his head is so far up Donald's ass kind of a thing.
Well, but I think it's been up there for a while now.
Yeah, but this is like so blatant.
Hey, listen, if anyone's ever told you anything other than Trump is amazing, they're lying to you.
Well, I mean, it's not explicitly about Trump being amazing.
It's about him telling the truth about Iran specifically, right?
But you know what he's implying.
Has Donald's tune changed on Iran, or is he just not surrounded by people who actually can give him good advice about it?
I don't know.
We'll get into it.
We'll just lie to, so I guess I don't know.
Of course.
You know, since it's been a while since I've tuned into Crowder, I'm curious to know what his general stance is.
Kind of getting into it.
So the latest on Iran, we just played that clip for you.
And of course, that mirrors Trump's most recent comment on Truth Social where he just wrote, unconditional surrender.
That's it.
Pretty clear.
He's a man of a few words sometimes.
Well, a man of more words.
He gets to be a little flowery.
The Ayatollah Khomeini took to, I was just, this is a funny phrase.
The Ayatollah Khomeini took to X to threaten the United States.
That's a social team.
It's about as funny to me as Saddam Hussein being found in his bunker with Avengers comics and Raisin Brand Crunch.
Not standard Raisin Brand.
The Crunch, mind you.
They think it's weird that the Ayatollah is going to X, but they read Trump's True Social with zero stomping grounds.
Yeah, it got me wondering.
He's a real champion over there.
Like, what does Stephen think Iran is?
They're a modernized country with advanced infrastructure.
The fucking beginning lyrics of the goddamn Flock of Seagulls track.
That is also true.
That's actually the name of the episode.
I don't know if I told you guys yet.
Iran so far is kind of fun.
Yeah.
I like it.
This is a rare instance where I wrote it ahead of time.
Very fun.
But yeah, Iran, I mean, modern infrastructure, robust healthcare system, rapidly growing technology sector.
And we've all seen the skyscrapers in Tehran being slammed with missiles lately, which is kind of, oof.
Rural areas do remain kind of traditional and political tensions continue.
But Iran's achievements in science, AI, and nanotechnology, it makes it one of the regional leaders in innovation.
And certainly they use X. Nah, dude, this is stupid.
Are you sure?
They got camels and shit there, dude.
So, yep, Steven has no idea.
You know that song?
The song like from all the moves goes, twang, twing, twing, boang.
That's Iran, dude.
He sucks so much.
It's the worst.
Steven, the fact that they're making fun of him for using X, it blows my mind.
Yeah.
They did it in the same breath.
Of course.
And let's explore what was said on X when these types of folks accuse it.
Did Donald Trump surrender on X?
Oh, you think that was when he was doing it?
It's legally challenging.
He just surrendered.
Wow, I can't believe that.
Sounds like he did a public decree of surrender.
Wow.
Well, this is what Iran said.
Send this message to the United States.
He said, the U.S. entering in this matter, fuck, war in parentheses, is 100% to its own detriment.
The damage it will suffer will be far greater than any harm that Iran may encounter.
The harm.
That's about the Iranian equivalent of, I am a robber, you are glue.
This will hurt.
This is so fucking stupid.
They're the kind of people that would have been like, and they said on the TV about the war, they didn't even put it in the paper.
They said it on the TV.
The harm the U.S. will suffer will be irreparable if they enter this conflict militarily.
Okay.
So here's the thing.
No American lives should be lost for, I think we all agree, should be lost.
let me say this, for certain.
No American lives should be lost for a war that is on behalf of Israel.
Absolutely.
And I don't think that any American lives should be lost at this point in time to deal with Iran whatsoever.
Okay.
Is there like a fourth voice in there?
Because I swear to God, they were talking to somebody from like the Middle East.
That was actually, listen, and you're going to be surprised here.
That was Master of Accent, Steven Crowder.
That was a comedian, Steven Crowder?
Okay.
Well, fucking shock.
Color me shocked.
Oh, man.
But yeah, this is all the same old Trump, though.
No problem at all.
No.
It's fine.
President Trump is increasingly warm to the idea of using U.S. assets to strike nuclear facilities.
So I really haven't seen a change.
I know people are saying, okay, the word we.
Look, we use the word we often for talking about people with allied interests.
That doesn't mean that he's changed his tune at all as far as the United States is going to engage in a ground war and invasion of Iran.
So for the United States, he's made it clear that's about stopping Iran from getting a nuke.
Uh-huh.
And for how long?
20 to 30 years now?
At least.
And Donald Trump was behind it the whole time, he's saying.
Well, yeah, single-handedly protecting the world.
Yeah, so when he was in his 50s.
Do you think he'll call it the Gulf of Trump at some point?
Yes.
I would rather call it the Gulf of Trump than the Gulf of America, if I'm honest.
It's way funnier.
And then he'll change it.
He'll call it the Gold Coast, and they're like, that already exists.
That already is a thing.
He's like, not anymore.
Fold a raised hammer.
So you remember that time when Trump lost the 2020 election?
Wow, there was a lot of fun.
No, I don't.
I don't at all.
Wow.
He then almost launched a military strike against Iran because he was throwing a temper tantrum, remember?
And Netanyahu was egging him on, but General Mark Milley strongly warned against the attack on Iran, saying that if he was to do something like this, it would trigger a full-scale war.
Dude, I can't keep up with all the shit that Donald Trump's been doing.
Well, I just remembered him threatening to start a war after he lost the 2020 election.
I remember this now, but I'm like, these are career-ending scandals.
They're happening every day.
They really should be.
This guy's lying 21 times a day, Byron, and I can't keep up with what's real, what's fake.
That's true.
I'm really sorry.
Yeah, I will try to catalog.
I'm going to try and buy 21 times tomorrow.
I'll let you know how it goes.
I think everyone should try to do that.
I think that's a new challenge that we should have.
The 21 Life Challenge.
The Trump 21 challenge.
You see if you can do 21.
My name's Byron, and this is the Trump 21 challenge.
These are lying.
Just going around the city lying at people.
About dumb shit, too.
Sky is green.
Hey, guys, I like broad food.
I fucking got you.
No, I don't.
I hate it, dude.
Shit sucks.
Anyway.
Speaking of green.
Pass the challenge along.
Red means go and green means stop.
Oh, dude, you fucking got them, dude.
They're going to crack.
Wow.
All right.
Well, that's kind of fun.
And Waymos, there's usually a driver and a Waymo.
Horses?
Every time.
And by the way, I want to be clear here, just so you like, there are people having conversations, and the vast majority of Americans believe that it's bad for Iran to get a nuke, and they don't want us entangled in foreign wars.
And then Lindsey Graham has to step in and get everything wrong.
I don't think I've known anyone more tone deaf or incapable of gauging the temperature.
I hope this eliminated.
I would like to see this regime fall, but I'm going to leave it up to the president as to what to do and when to do it.
But I do know this.
If we don't take out their nuclear program now, we'll all regret it.
We're very close.
Be all in, Mr. President, and helping Israel finish the job.
and let's see where we're at after we neutralize our nuclear program.
Someone just...
Lindsey, Graham, can you just punch yourself in your own face?
Please?
Regime change, 100% all in.
It's like you didn't get the note that people don't want to hear someone who sounds like a mouthpiece for APAC.
Did he say regime change?
Yeah, he did.
Regime change.
We need to be all in for help.
No, no, no, we don't.
I'm fine dropping a couple of bombs, but that's actually not what I want to do.
I'd rather us not drop any bombs.
I 100% am against any kind of a ground invasion to affect this.
If they want regime change in Iran, fantastic.
They can do it themselves.
I think that would be a net positive if they did it because we've proven incapable.
But people are conflating what has happened in Iraq and what happened in Afghanistan and saying that anything related to the Middle East is that.
And that's not true.
Donald Trump proved that when he fried Soleimani.
You know who the people that came out and said, he's a warmonger.
He's trying to go to war with Iran.
It's Israel's war.
The left.
The people on the right doing that now sound exactly like the people on the left in Trump's first term.
He hasn't changed.
And by that, you mean in misrepresenting him?
Not in saying no foreign wars unless it's in our interest.
No, that doesn't sound like that.
I get that.
I understand that.
Can we clip that bit of Gerald saying that he's 100% against a ground invasion so that when it happens, we can just use that clip?
I really hope it doesn't happen.
I hope it doesn't happen too, but I feel like Trump's going to make it happen.
Things are looking a little spicy right now.
This is the WMDs of our time, and we were around for the WMDs.
Yeah, we're getting a fresh 9-11 before we're getting GTA 6.
Kind of fucked up.
I think he thinks his audience is dumb.
Saying that we...
Yeah, there's the redneck audience member.
Well, I mean, Trump has clearly been, I'm not going to go to war.
I'm not going to go to war.
I'm not going to call this.
There's not going to be wars.
I'm the anti-war president.
And now they're saying that he never said that, basically.
I'm anti-war on this in our interest.
Yeah, of course.
That's every fucking president ever, man.
We're gonna split hairs with what is war.
Yeah.
I mean, remember Sure.
In Iran, and that was a scary little bit of time as well.
Sure.
This whole situation is just obnoxious.
Like, he's so critical about the Obama deal that was made with Iran about nukes.
He just, like, split my wig, making me remember that Trump assassinated a guy.
Yeah.
Or had him assassinated.
That was really fucked.
I don't know.
That's fucking crazy.
Think about that.
Donald Trump's got like actual blood on his hands through the means of another set of hands, I suppose.
Yeah, all over his ear.
Yeah, what a nightmare.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Byron, sorry, you were saying something before.
No, I was just going to say that they're assuming they can say that we or people who are against it are conflating it with the other conflicts that we've had in the Middle East, like in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Like I just did.
Yeah.
But they're related.
Yeah.
You can't.
And they're very similar.
Whatever this tension is, like, I understand.
I don't have the solution.
I don't want Iran to have nukes, and I don't want anyone to have nukes, if I'm being honest.
But the fewer nukes, the better.
Yeah, I think the thing that bothers me is like we can use these past wars to see what our problems were.
And also, the folks who are saying we need to not police the world are seemingly okay with policing the world.
Yeah, well, because they lie about everything.
There's no time when these people are being honest with you or having like a real conversation because they'll just flip it on a dime.
They'll find something else.
America first, but send all of our money to Israel.
Of course.
And then if that's a problem for you, then just, well, we're giving Ukraine a ton of money also.
It's like.
Well, careful.
I mean, Israel is going to be a state at some point.
I think that's the only way to make this whole world.
Do you think that's how we make a globalist world is we just convince everyone that they all need to be states?
It's just conquest.
Yeah, it's a manifest destiny.
And then suddenly we're just globalists.
And that's kind of exciting, right?
United States of the world, bro.
And then Alex Jones was right, you know.
As soon as I'm ready, I'll come on you first.
So I was quick on that one.
No, I just, I mean, some people are standing up and speaking out against this.
I mean, Tucker Carlson did, and then he apologized to Trump today.
Yeah, he already apologized.
Everyone has to take a knee.
Marjorie Taylor Green even has spoken out against the idea of starting new conflicts.
And I mean, Dave Smith, I think there's a handful of these that are going to come up in a little bit.
No, Dave Smith Motors, one of the largest Northwest car dealerships.
Are we sponsored?
No, no, we're not.
Dave Smith Motors.
All right, relax.
I want less nukes.
That's all.
Like, this is a bad situation.
Yep.
And Trump's been lying to everybody about war.
Yep.
But Nick's got some thoughts.
Good.
Here's my take on this thing.
Out of all these conflicts for the last 50, 60 years, and then in the Middle East, and American soldiers getting killed over there and terrorism, there's one common denominator.
It's Iran.
Whether it's Hamas, the Houdis, Iran.
They back all that crap.
We're this close to taking them out.
We've never done that.
That would be called, when they say, get at the root of the problem.
To me, you flatten them.
Then you might have long-lasting peace in the Middle East.
We've never really considered that.
Taking them out completely.
And we don't have to have American soldiers die if you have these bunker busts.
We're this close.
Sorry.
If you got these bunker busts.
Bunker busts.
I was just surprised he's calling out hootie.
Got these hooties over there.
All the both.
You and me, we come from different worlds, Nick.
I love about that clip is as Nick is rambling, Steven's like, yeah?
Uh-huh.
Well, he only does it because he's unsure of when he needs to cut off Nick.
Totally.
As soon as he started talking, I think about it.
Nick Dip is that guy who, like, when they start talking, they go, what the fuck is he going to say?
Yeah, Stephen's heart is racing.
Yeah, it's like inviting your grandma to speak on your podcast.
I do that all the time.
This is insane that Nick thinks that on day six of the conflict, we're this close to flattening Iran.
We need to eliminate Iran.
What are you talking about?
Bro.
Do you remember how long we were in Iraq?
Long ass time.
That was super successful, right?
Yeah.
What are you doing, Nick?
We're this close.
We're so close.
So close.
Just a bunkabuster.
Just a couple bunkabusters away.
Let me ask you this.
God, don't let me forget my question.
Let me ask you.
It was about Iran.
We were talking about the Jews.
No, the only reason that gave me a little concern is because, and I don't know if this crossed your minds when he made that threat.
There are 2 million people in this country.
We don't know where they are that Biden let in.
And a lot of them look like the people we're talking about right now.
Yep.
So that crossed my mind.
Interesting.
So Nick's wife is feeding him more conspiracy theories.
He thinks that the people who came through the southern border.
Two million of them.
The Middle Eastern.
Let in by Obiden, of course.
Of course, Obiden.
Are Middle Eastern from Iran.
And there's going to be some sleeper cell attacks.
There is.
That's a problem.
You can't use a bunker buster because the bunker is inside you all along.
Damn, dude.
Damn.
That's fucked up.
The real gift was friendship, wasn't it?
It's all about the journey, not the destination, folks.
Right, Nick Diff will take us home.
Fuck.
Anyway, let's go to Tucker Carlson.
So, Tucker Carlson, same subject, different people.
And he was interviewing Ted Cruz.
This is Making the Rones.
I want to know where you line up here on this one.
And to be clear, you know, I was at full disclosure, I've spent time with him at Fox News.
There were a couple of rap parties there, too.
And I used to do a segment on Sunday that he would often host, Tucker Carlson.
He's always been very kind to me personally.
Our interactions have been pleasant.
And I've invited Tucker Carlson on the show.
Of course you have.
He definitely was.
You should never miss an opportunity to invite someone much larger than you to be on your show.
And at this point, I would like to maybe invite President Obama.
Yeah, Tucker Carlson, please come on the show.
Are you going to ask him about that clip when he was in Montana?
That guy's like, oh, yeah, he got a costume.
That was kind of cool.
Joe Rogan, come on the show.
Yeah, totally.
Who else?
Anyone else?
Gavin Newsome, get him on the show.
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, why not?
Let's get both Gavins.
Let's get both Gavin Priscilla.
Beginners and Newsom head to head.
And we'll actually bring them on the same episodes.
Oh, wow.
That'd be kind of cool.
Let's see if that works, crossing my fingers.
I hope so.
I bet someone's going to come on the show.
I also love that when Steven says, let me be clear, he's never clear.
It means that whatever's coming next is going to be very murky.
Yeah, yeah.
So I guess they wouldn't have had access to this full interview, but 10 or 11 hours ago, Tucker dropped a nearly two-hour long interview with Ted.
It's called Tucker Confronts Ted Cruz on his support for regime change in Iran.
Great.
And that's what we're talking about.
So he had Senator Ted Cruz on, and he was asking him about Iran.
Oh, and also, yes, Steven, I couldn't find any clips of him with Tucker except for six years ago when he got in hot water with Vox when they were trying to deplatform him because he called the host of a Vox program a slur.
You remember that?
No.
Yeah.
Not surprised, but no.
I'm sorry.
One more time.
Tucker called someone.
Tucker didn't even have, he didn't even have Steven on his show.
He had Glenn Greenwald on the show.
And this is back before Glenn Greenwald is the Glenn that we know today.
But he was still standing up for free speech, which is quite interesting.
But I don't have any proof that Steven and Tucker have ever been in the same room together.
I think they were at like a Fox News gala.
Yeah.
And Steven's sitting cross-legged on the floor.
Steven on the show?
Okay, cool, cool.
Stephen was dancing to turn down for what?
No, I picture Steven sitting cross-legged on the floor and holding his hand up to Tucker saying, help me up.
Hey, can you help me up?
Help me up.
Up, up, up, up, up, up.
Yeah.
With his arms reached where his hands are opening and closing.
The one hand clamping.
Yeah.
And then he spills his milk on Tucker's blazer and thinks.
Yeah.
So he had Senator Ted Cruz on, and he was asking him about Iran.
And I would say this.
It's a perfect example.
And I've been in these situations of gotcha journalism.
And I want you to sort of use this threshold.
If Ted Cruz, if Senator Ted Cruz were to give a generalized answer, and by the way, he should have been better prepared for sure.
If he were to give a generalized answer, would it suffice?
I guarantee you it wouldn't.
And that's not the kind of journalism that I like, but let's run this first clip.
How many people live in Iran, by the way?
I don't know the population.
At all?
No, I don't know the population.
You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple?
How many people live in Iran?
92 million.
Okay.
Yeah.
How could you not know that?
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million?
Because if you don't know anything about the country.
I didn't say I don't know anything about the country.
Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran?
Puerto Rican and Polish.
They are Persians and predominantly Shia.
Okay, this is not going to be a picture.
Hold on, pause.
Pause, pause, pause, pause.
Okay.
Cute.
I don't know.
I hate it when this happens, when I'm like, yeah, you have to lean towards Tucker on this one.
Maybe you should know a little bit about the country that you want to topple.
You should know enough to answer questions in an interview you're talking about, yeah.
It's okay if you agree with one of the worms talking.
Yeah.
That's fine.
I appreciate that.
Thanks for giving me permission.
Stephen, also expert in gotcha journalism.
Of course.
usually from the other side of it.
I'm trying to think of a time where Stephen...
Every mug club undercover.
Well, no, I'm saying it in the other way.
Like, Stephen probably feels like he's been personally attacked in interviews in the past.
Oh, he totally has.
Yeah.
But it's usually because.
He just said the N-word on purpose on TV.
We did just cover that.
Fuck.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
He got himself, dude.
Remember, he wanted to be got even harder, but he got censored.
Yeah, get me harder, Daddy.
Very cool.
He's a word dom.
He's words.
Nice.
This is the closest I've seen Steven behave like Alex Jones.
And if it doesn't stand out, I'll explain it at the other side of the clip.
So I was watching this live late this morning.
I'll play it and go pause as though I'm watching it live.
I said, around 100 million.
It's pretty close.
90-something million.
That answer wouldn't suffice, I guarantee you.
If I were to say about 100 million, it's actually 90 and have the decimal.
Okay.
What are you doing there, what are you doing there?
Nick, relax.
Applejack.
There you go.
Okay.
So.
Put that back.
I don't see that.
I said about 100 million.
What's the ethnic makeup?
I was sitting there going, okay, pause.
It's anywhere from 80 to 90% Persian, you know, Assyrian.
I know that I've read that there's as much as 3% Christian.
I've seen it as low as 0.15.
So there's a number in there.
You have some Turks.
Would that suffice?
Because that's about enough that you would need to be a national security advisor.
The number that really matters is what percentage of these people are interested in a regime change themselves.
And so when you ask those questions, and here's the thing, people can be wrong.
There's a difference between being misleading and not knowing everything.
Sure.
I mean, that may be more important, but also importantly, he got his weird fact check wrong as well.
It's not 97 million.
It's nearly 91.
Talks at 92 million.
I know, it's 91.
It's actually 90.61.
Oh, is it a fault?
But that's 2023.
I mean, who knows?
He might actually know more than I do.
Yeah, he counted him, dude.
This is how I watch TV with my friends.
Yeah, pause it.
Pause it, pause it.
Pause it.
There's a question.
I want to show us what I am.
Won't you quiz me?
Quiz me real quick.
Quiz me.
No, this didn't happen.
Of course not.
Lane.
Lane asked me questions.
I want to prove.
I want to prove.
I want to prove I know.
It's just like you're waiting for him to do a Google search and be like, I saw an article.
It's just delusional thinking and storytelling in a way that is reminiscent of the behavior of Alex Jones.
Yeah, it totally is.
It's myth-building surrounding himself.
So I actually won who wants to be a millionaire, but I just was not.
Yeah, they actually forgot to turn on the cameras.
Every episode, I got all the questions right.
That's pretty incredible.
I've never cheated at Trivia Day in my life.
Never, dude.
Never, ever.
And oh, yeah, Nick was watching TV.
Is that what happened anyway?
Because they usually have CNN on in the background.
And he accidentally unmuted it or something?
I don't know what he was up to.
I think he's trying to turn it up because he saw something cool.
Yeah.
And they're like, wait, what?
What are we doing?
Yeah, like the commercial.
Yeah.
Some of poison smoothies?
If you are In a position where you're answering a question, and you were to give a pretty accurate answer that shows that you're informed, but you haven't brushed up on this in granular detail.
And someone says, Ah, you're wrong, that's got you.
Let's continue.
King about Iran.
So, okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
You're a senator who's calling the government to learn who know anything about the country.
Okay.
And then, of course, not, you know, another son is not letting the guy finish.
I do think that Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz, could have been better prepared and could have known what he was looking into.
But listen, here's what he got right.
Persian?
Shia.
Yes.
The most important part of that, Shia.
You need to understand the ideology of a group of people.
You need to understand what they believe.
And mostly we're talking about the leadership, even though 90 to 95% of the people identify as Shia.
Right.
They're more like secular Muslims than a lot of.
They will not admit that somebody on the right is acting like an idiot.
Right?
They won't.
Well, I mean, a tuck already is, but like, I think in this situation, they have to pick a side.
They have to support Ted Cruz for some reason.
I don't know.
Do you remember when we watched the debate and Biden flopped and we were just like...
Maybe our TVs are broken.
Pause it, pause it, pause it.
I'm going to answer this question before Joe Biden does.
Pause it.
Also, I loved about halfway through the clip, there's this really, I don't know who says it, but someone just goes, Jesus.
I think that must have been Gerald, right?
He was great.
Yeah.
He was great.
Well, it's unfortunate that Tucker won't let Ted finish his answer.
Yeah, let him finish, man.
He wants to dodge harder.
Can I finish, can I finish?
It's a standard that Steven doesn't uphold in his conversations with anyone.
Of course.
But he loves Ted.
So the clip has been, of course, celebrated by the usual suspects.
Hassan Piker, why is Tucker Carlson capable of conducting an adversarial interview about the dangers of American intervention in Iran with Ted Cruz better than everyone else in legacy media?
He didn't.
Martyr made Dave Smith.
They were all saying that this was a great interview and that Ted was really caught flat-footed.
Let me know what you think.
I think he should have been better prepared.
I think that if he was going in, he kind of knew what kind of an interview, hopefully, because we always let people know if they come, even with, for example, ICE director.
Yeah.
Border's our Tom Holman yesterday.
I'm trying to think of it.
It's ICE executive director.
I know.
Border's Tom Holman yesterday.
We let him know, hey, by the way, it's a comedy show.
Yeah, yeah.
And we're going to have you photoshopped on the naked copper tone baby.
And he asked for it.
He thought it was funny.
You think he'd really asked for it when he was on the show yesterday?
He's like, hey, listen, can you Photoshop me?
I don't even be.
I forgot to mention Tom Holman was the guest yesterday.
That's insane.
Yeah.
I didn't want to listen to it.
Fuck, man.
That's insane.
Also, Hassan Piker, welcome on the show anytime.
Hassan, yeah, welcome.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's get Hassan.
Hassan can come on the show.
Ethan, you can come on.
Sure.
Just bring Sam Cedar on with you and trick us.
I like the weird amount of ire that Hassan has gained over the last few weeks here.
Yeah, it's been really interesting.
I think that's the first time I've ever heard Steven mention Hassan.
It did stand out to me as well.
Yeah, I don't think we've ever heard him talk about him.
Here's my thoughts about this so far.
Tucker sucks, and Ted failed hard.
Yeah, Ted showed his whole ass in this one.
Oh, crazy.
And we're not done yet.
Great.
You ready for more ass?
Yeah.
You got that little hank hill, but we'll get to that.
But Gerald, as you've sensed, is up in arms about this.
Of course he is.
Clearly, he has some strong feelings, and he shares them with everyone now, and that's always exciting.
By the way, I don't know that if I was prepping for this, I don't know that I would have looked up the exact population of Iran because it's irrelevant.
Right.
It's irrelevant at this point.
We're not talking about a ground invasion.
If you want to ask the question, I think your question was, how many people want regime change?
And how many, I don't know, how many people would that displace?
That's a more relevant question, but that's not what Tucker asked.
He was trying to do a gotcha question, like, hey, here's the geography stuff.
And who do you replace them with?
The Smothers Brothers?
No, just still, yeah.
The Bash brothers.
All right, welcome, Mr. Ran.
What?
Who are the Smothers Brothers?
I don't know.
They were comedians, I believe.
And the Bash brothers.
That's from Mighty Ducks.
Yeah, yeah.
Comedy, music, and singing thing.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Great reference from Nick DiPaulo.
Dick and Tom Smothers.
I mean, 1958.
Back when Nick Dipp was a kid.
It's like the...
You probably do.
Will Ferrell's dad was in I actually did know that.
Will Farrell is a Nepo baby?
Whoa.
What, the Everly Brothers?
Is that right?
Okay, cool.
Maybe it's not them.
I remember.
I really hated hearing Gerald talk about this because he acts like...
Sorry.
Okay, he acts like you shouldn't have at least kind of prepared a little bit.
And Tucker was not like giving me the exact population of Iran.
No, he was making a point.
How many people are there?
He was making a point.
You don't know shit about this country.
That's what he was saying.
These were not prepared gotcha questions.
He was saying, like, clearly, I don't think that you understand exactly what you're saying.
Yeah.
Because if you're going to speak on regime change in a country, you should know something about that country.
Can your country go in and support this country while 92 million people have their power vacuum filled appropriately?
Yeah.
Great questions.
Irrelevant, though.
Irrelevant.
Dumb.
Number of people there doesn't matter.
We're going to go kill them.
So stupid.
You keep bringing this up.
You're always bringing up old shit.
Wait, am I getting dumb today?
What?
Yeah, you live in the past.
God, why do they keep fucking talking about population?
Fuck.
Strong feelings from the crew about Cruz, though.
I'm Ted Cruz, man.
I used to be high on him.
Sorry.
Me too?
No.
He's been around forever and nothing got done under him.
I'm just tired of hearing how smart he is.
You're with him there?
I'm with him.
I'm with him there.
He's sort of a doom-nothing.
I'll tell you what.
He came in here and he was on the show.
Handlers came in and said, you only get this amount of time, and you have to take the liquor off the shelves.
I said, I just watched an interview where he said his favorite drink was American bourbon.
I'm not taking the liquor off of the bar shelf.
No, I mean.
So I don't know how much of it is there.
As the first I know there's people around him.
Right.
I generally like him, but my problem is he has not done nearly enough.
He's been very ineffective in a lot of ways that are important to the voters that he said he would be effective in.
And just not happening.
Alan Dershwood said he was the best student he ever had at Harvard.
I mean, he's a smart guy.
Yes, true.
So I would expect more to get, but I don't know just how hands-on senators aren't getting shit done anymore.
Yeah, Well, he is known to be quite a learned man.
Actually, Build-A-Bear even jumped on the bandwagon to sell their new line of Teddy Teachalots.
Teddy, how far away is Saturn?
I don't know.
Well, it's not their bestseller at Build-A-Bear.
How can we invade Saturn if we don't know how far away it is?
Yeah.
Son of a gun.
How many Martians live?
What's their ethnicity?
They're green and purple.
Black, boy.
Not to be confused with the Lindsey Graham, the Teddy Cuxpin.
So, whoa.
That was fucking good.
I thought that they were going to.
I was really close.
I was really close to cutting the whole Build-A-Bear, Teddy Cuck spin part because I was like, first of all, I'm going to...
First of all, teddy bears don't respond to questions.
It doesn't make any sense.
Build-a-bear also doesn't make that kind of bear.
They make just normal bears that you fill and put it in.
I think you can record a thing and put it in there.
Sure.
Like a sweet noise.
I guess.
But yeah, insane.
Totally up there.
You put that screaming noise in the Build-A-Bear.
Just for us.
I should do that.
That actually sounds like a nice thing to have in the studio.
Because I could not leave that moment out.
That was probably like, What the fuck happened?
They love a clip pun, man.
Mid-laugh, he spilled his coffee on his lap.
It's crazy.
We gotta cut that for sure.
Of course, that's gonna be the four.
There's a couple things I love about the clip.
For one, I love Nick Dip going, thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Like Gerald was supporting him directly.
Like, Nick was right.
He just says, like, yeah, I hate Ted.
And he's like, thank you.
Thank you.
The weirdest thing is Ted Cruz has been on the show three times.
Three times.
I think one of the most recent times that...
Because remember, Ted Cruz was one of the biggest supporters of the initial stop.
My wife is a dog.
Big, big supporter of a wife being a dog.
Yeah, he does love that.
He had to.
He's really kind of the king of taking a knee, huh?
He is, yeah.
But I also love that they're like, how far away is Saturn?
We don't need to know that to invade it.
You definitely need to know how far away is Saturn to know how to invade it.
Yeah, for sure.
But after that conversation.
What was he saying about the Dersch?
That was his teacher at Harvard, was Alan Dershowitz.
Oh.
Because Ted Cruz is a lawyer.
Yeah, right.
Okay, okay.
No, but during that conversation that Stephen had after the 2020 election, the conversation he had with Ted Cruz, he said that it seemed like Ted Cruz would be some guy who could be president someday.
Shoot me in the face if that ever happened.
And now he seems to have changed his tune a little bit.
He's going against Trump, dude.
We can't have a firm president.
True.
You got to change all the doors and stuff.
How will you get to Cancuna?
Gross, dude.
If you want to be president.
That's a good point.
Cancun's kind of sick, though.
I get it.
I hope it gets cold.
Yeah.
I hope it gets cold and that he has to leave for a long time.
I hope so.
What if he gets deported?
You also like how he That he's kind of like Jeremy Boring doesn't like choose his suits and stuff for him anymore.
So he's kind of trying to do it off of memory now.
He does kind of look like that.
Damn, that sucks for him.
Yeah, it's a little rough.
I wonder what Boring's up to.
We got to look into that.
Making stupid chocolate rolls.
He's straightening that key.
I think it's ass time.
Ass time.
The second half of the clip got less attention, but I actually think raises, I would argue, some more important questions.
No, you don't know anything about the country.
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
You're the one who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Suleimani, and you just said it was bad.
They're trying to murder Trump.
Yes, I do.
Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation.
And if you really believe that.
We're carrying out military strikes today.
You said Israel was.
Right, with our help.
I said we.
Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.
We're not bombing them.
Israel's bombing them.
You just said we were.
We are supporting Israel as a.
Senator, if you're saying the United States government is attacking Iran right now, people are listening.
Okay, hold on a second.
Let me just tell you, that's not honest.
And all references are available, link in the description.
What kind of reference is connected?
That's not honest.
I'm going to reference the dictionary in the show notes.
Yeah, look at that.
That's just the dictionary definition for liar.
For liar?
Ted Cruz said we are attacking Iran in response to, I guess he implied in response to assassination attempts at Donald Trump.
Yeah.
And if you say we, you are part of we.
And you are part of the United States, not Israel.
It's funny that you say that.
It kind of opens up a larger debate, doesn't it?
It does.
And by the way, Nick DiPaolo just said we.
And I was like, ah, people are going to jump on you for saying we.
He was correct when he was saying we, and there's nothing new.
So U.S. warships, planes, have helped shoot down missiles targeting Israel.
This is not new.
It was the same practice that we've engaged in as missiles were launched on Israel in April 2024 from Iran, in October 2024 from Iran, and December 2024, Houthi.
It has been American standard practice to help shoot down missiles.
Some other things that have been purchased from the United States, the FAAD missile defense capabilities and F-35s.
So when he says we, it's pretty clear, yeah, we've been helping shoot down missiles just like we did when Iran launched missiles, ballistic missiles, in October, in April 2024, and the Houthi in 2024.
To say that this is unique to this right now, we means we're going to war, is dishonest unless you believe that Tucker doesn't know that.
That to me seems like I gotcha.
Maybe you just don't want to admit Ted Cruz said some shitty things.
I mean, it's the thing that we all know.
Steven's backtracking.
Of course, we, and I don't know, I don't like this, have positioned ourselves to be a defensive, supportive role in this conflict.
Sure.
Even though I believe when it started, Trump said we weren't going to shoot down any missiles.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think he said that at the beginning, Israel started a war, And Iran retaliated and the U.S. backed them up by taking down a lot of the missiles.
The Thad defense system the U.S. provided for defense, of course.
And then the planes that we gave Israel also are used to shoot down missiles.
That's fine.
We aren't talking about that at this point.
What Trump wants to do is supply bunker busters.
Coming up bunker busters.
Which is a massive offensive escalation, you know?
Like, that's not the same.
It's all this stuff.
He's very clearly implying that we will be sending troops.
Well, I don't know if that's clear.
I don't know.
I think it's very clear.
You think they're actually going to ground invade.
When I say troops, I don't mean like ground invasion.
I mean more like that our fighters will be like dropping bombs and things.
That is very possible.
You're not dropping a bunker buster with a drone.
No, but maybe Israel would be flying a plane that has our bunker buses.
Flying a bomber.
A stealth bomber?
Sure.
I don't know.
I don't know how planes work.
It's the only one that can handle the bunker buster.
Is that true?
Wow, I don't know shit about bunker buses.
Yeah, dude.
You got to learn a bit about bunker buses.
Yeah, Dave.
Yeah, Dave.
But yeah, I have no idea.
I mean, I don't know all this stuff, but it's clear that Trump is escalating shit.
It's very clear.
And that we are we.
Imagine Trump tweeting, we are going to war.
I mean, Israel.
Again, we're going to lean more into this whole we conversation.
Yeah, unfortunately.
He should have been good.
He could have said, and this would have been the answer to that.
Yeah, when the Texas Rangers won the World Series, I said, we won the World Series.
Right.
Same thing, all right?
Exactly.
Stop with that bullshit.
Yes.
That would have been more effective.
That would have been more effective.
How are you going to tell me?
I'm not Mr. I know everything.
It must be nice to be so perfect.
And I like Tucker, but you're going to tell me Tucker's never used the word we in a context like that in the past.
Well, he's used we when referring to the United States taking out a wren.
Actually, in the past.
And I like them a lot.
I just, you know, I...
Not because of this.
People are looking at this like that's the kind of journalism.
Yeah, I didn't like.
Yeah, I thought that was kind of on Tucker, the approach he took with his gotcha stuff.
You know, this is just like when the Texas Rangers win and he says we won because it's the exact same.
He doesn't play for the Rangers.
But he plays for a different team.
He plays for a different team entirely.
That's why it's different.
He lives in Seattle and he plays for a different team entirely.
It said we.
We won.
It makes a little bit less sense when you do it like that.
He means we as a community won because baseball exists.
Well, I don't think that's exactly.
Are Rangers baseball?
Yeah.
Rangers are baseball.
I was just trying to think of an equivalent team in the same league.
Are the Rangers the MLB team?
Yeah.
Okay, just making sure.
I don't know anymore.
Mariners.
I don't know.
If someone from the Mariners said, we won.
We won.
Hey, we won.
It's not the same thing.
No, we did not.
Johe Otani says, we won.
Really bad analogy.
Yeah.
Terrible analogy, but they let him have it.
Careful.
Careful.
If you point that out, he'll call you an F-Slov.
And we, we?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I wouldn't point that F-s.
That's my goal in life is to get called the F-Star right now.
My Nicaro?
Yeah, well, it's probably pretty easy.
That's what it was comedy showing Heckler.
He would call you that straight out just looking at it.
Straight away, yeah.
What's this guy?
He's sitting next to a guy?
I'll do some moisturizer and get my face looking all dewy.
All right.
Wow.
So is Ted Cruz, is he calling for regime change?
I think he should be clear about that.
Is he calling for the United States to join the bombing campaign?
Us personally.
What type of support does he think that the United States should be giving Israel?
These are not the questions that were being asked.
Well, not at the time, because, of course, like I point out that maybe this full interview wasn't available to Stephen at the time.
I did listen to a little bit of the Tucker Carlson full-length episode.
It's interesting.
I do have some clarity.
It happens in the first minute of their chat.
Senator, thank you very much for spending the time to have this conversation.
It's good to be with you.
So you've come out for regime change in Iran as distinct just from taking out the nuclear sites.
What does regime change look like in Iran?
Somebody else in charge.
How do you get there?
Look, that ultimately has to be a popular uprising from the people.
And it's not a complicated question.
Is America better off with a country that has a leader who hates us and wants to kill us, or to have a country with a leader who likes us and wants to be friends with us?
And definitely the latter is better.
Of course.
And so that's not a complicated statement.
Look, I believe you look across the world when you have countries that have dictators that are viciously anti-American.
Venezuela, Maduro hates us.
Would we be better off with Maduro out of power?
Absolutely.
I want our enemies out of power and I want our friends in power.
I could not agree more.
The question is, how do you get there?
Of course.
We've been trying to kill Maduro for quite some time.
We have troops there.
I don't know that we've been trying to kill Maduro.
We have.
Tucker would know.
He's got his finger on the pulse of secret government operations.
Of course he does.
I really liked it.
Basically, Tucker or Ted was like, yeah, if someone doesn't like us, we got to overthrow it.
Yeah, we got to get rid of them.
Regime change.
Globalists.
Stamp it.
Yeah.
All right.
Wow.
Gee, that's stamp.
That's crazy.
Yeah, and then I got one more clip from that conversation.
Okay.
In COVID, in fact, you may recall in the middle of the COVID lockdown, I was out walking my dog when the whole world was shut down and we were living in lunatic times.
And I called you and said, Tucker, your nightly monologues are the single best thing on television.
Like, I watch them like an injection of crack.
Okay, I'm mixing my metaphor because you don't inject crack, but you get what I'm trying.
Very cool.
Jesus Christ.
Painful.
Painful existence, this man.
He's a big worm.
I do agree, though, that Tucker Carlson's monologues were definitely the best thing of COVID.
It was one of my favorite parts of COVID.
Yeah, definitely.
I was injecting your monologues like it was crack into my veins, Tucker.
What?
So this whole thing reminded me of a joke.
Okay.
You guys know Tom Sakura?
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I have a clip from his 2023 Netflix special called Sledgehammer that I'd like to share.
Okay.
Okay.
Here's what's wild.
A current or former United States Senator, I shall not say whom, lives in my neighborhood.
Everybody talks about him.
I know which house is his.
I'd never met him.
Now I'm home from tour and I decide to start my day with a morning walk, a casual walk.
You know, I have some coffee.
Let's get the day started.
I go for a walk.
I walk past his house.
He comes outside.
I don't say anything, right?
But he yells out.
He goes, hey, are you the comedian?
I go, yeah.
He goes, where do you think the term motherfucker comes from?
Hello, it's nice to meet you.
I go, I don't know.
He goes, you think it's from people doing that?
I'm like, fucking their moms?
And he goes, yeah.
I go, I don't know.
He goes, how many people do you think do that?
I go, more than you want it to be.
And he's like, yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
For like two weeks, he had been going to Heidi and just going, but the translation at the bottom of the screen was like, I got this fucking dope joke I'm going to tell the comedian when I see it.
Tommy.
What do you think of this one, Heidi?
Yeah, I mean, so far you think it's true?
I mean, like, that feels like something Ted Cruz would say, right?
I didn't think that Teddy Boy lived in Austin.
Let's listen to the rest of this.
Let's hear it out and see if you think that it feels a little bit more authentic.
Then, and I am not making this up, I could not make this up.
He says to me, how about daughter fuckers?
I go, first of all, that's not an expression anybody uses.
Right?
No one's like, check out this crazy daughter fucker over here.
I go, if you have kinks, we can talk about them, but not like this.
I don't like this at all.
And he goes, yeah.
And he just turns around and walks into his house.
I'm like, what the fuck was that?
Heating up.
Yeah, okay.
Remember, of course, Ted Cruz has two daughters.
Do you remember how much they hated him when he was running for president?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I need to watch those clips.
It'll make me happy.
Yeah, I don't like where this is going at all.
So I keep walking, just contemplating every mistake I've ever made that led me to that conversation.
And now I'm walking home.
So I walk past his house again.
He comes back outside.
He goes, hey, I didn't want it to end like that.
That was weird.
It was.
He goes, I thought about it.
And a motherfucker is not somebody who fucks their own mom.
I go, oh, do tell.
He goes, a motherfucker is someone who fucks your mom.
He goes, that's the most disrespectful thing anyone can do.
So if somebody is particularly rude, you call them a motherfucker.
And I go, wow.
I am so impressed that you put that together so quickly.
I can see why you may or may not be Ted Cruz.
And then I walk away.
He figured it out.
He got there eventually.
Yeah, he figured it out.
It took a while.
Motherfucker, huh?
That's great.
You know, Tom, ever since I last saw you, been sitting in my house watching my window, thinking about the things that I said to you and how I could punch them up.
And this is what I've come up with.
Heidi, I can't leave it like this.
My dog wife.
She doesn't think it's funny.
I'd like to think that this happened.
It brings a little joy to me.
He lives in Westlake, I guess.
That makes sense.
It's where The Undertaker lives.
Is that where the top 250 comedy assassins all live?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure him with his wife, Christina.
Christina P, of course.
Yeah, and Joe Rogan probably lives over there, too.
Works across the street from me, though, and I'm going to see him one day.
Actually, I'm going to see Bono someday first.
So, Joe, you're always welcome on the show as well as Bono.
Yeah, Joe, anytime you're going to get Joe No on here, too.
Yeah, man, it's the Thompson girl.
Why not?
All right.
So back to the show.
I'm going to put it all in perspective.
All this conjecture, all this argument.
After October 7th, Bibby came to Trump, whoever was in office and said, I'm fucking taking him off the planet.
Off planet fucking Earth.
Stop me.
That's where we are.
Yep, that's where we are.
Don't forget about October 7th.
And October 7th, to this day, to me, the most horrendous, it should still be fresh in your mind.
By the way.
And you're a Jewish culture who's already, you know, we had Germany and what they did.
There are people out there who believe it's a false flag.
There are people out there.
October 7th.
Well, then go fuck their mothers.
How about that?
Yeah, no, nice.
But you know, they actually, I think it was, someone could bring us up, the foreigners.
Full circle.
I love Nick Dip going and Steven trying to...
What?
We're not going to talk about him looking into Jon Stewart talking about gun control.
We've been in that game before.
He's just baiting John to come on the show.
Yeah, please.
Please come on, Michael.
John, both John's, Oliver and Stewart, always welcome on the show.
Absolutely.
And I would hope that they don't disagree with us, but if they did, I would welcome them to convince us otherwise.
We go clean, we go clean, you go spicy, we get a little bit of a sticky.
We go spicy.
Yes.
You're always welcome to the arena, and we're going to take it to the mat.
And you can reach out to us louder than crowder at gmail.com at thancrowder on blue sky and x the everything app.
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Shrugged.
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Of course.
Yes.
If you go to shrug.club, you can toss us some cash.
We'll call you a piece of shit.
But more importantly, I can eventually vote on this chicken nugget Shaped like the Oogie Boogie from the Nightmare Before Christmas.
Excuse me?
Yeah, it's $10,000 for the starting bid, but I think we can get there.
And you can help.
And it looks like Oogie Boogie.
He says it looks like Oogie Boogie, and I'm here to say it kind of looks like Oogie Boogie.
Okay.
I'm going to send it to your Discord real quick.
Oh, thanks.
I don't know what Oogie Boogie is.
Well, it's from the Nightmare Before Christmas.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll recognize the shape.
Now that is a link right there.
I'm going to go.
Let's get Jared this chicken nugget.
I want to shout out one more time, Louie R. Hell yeah, piece of shit.
Yeah, oh, I say thank you.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
In Phoenix C, thank you guys so much.
Phoenix Louie, thank you very kindly.
Appreciate you all very much.
Piece of shit.
Piece of shit.
Great.
If you want to be a piece of shit and help us out, that would be wonderful.
Shrug.club.
I would love it.
You've seen this nugget.
I don't need to look at it.
That's a great looking nugget.
I don't need to look at the nugget.
It does.
Okay.
I do want to say thanks for your patience while we put out episodes of the show.
The summer's been a little bit spicy.
Yeah, it's been spicy.
So we've been any support that is given to us at Shrug.club does push us more in a direction of stability and being able to do this show in a more regular way.
Yeah, I got evicted.
Excuse me?
So that's why it's hard for me because I have to like keep pawning my gear and then buying it back.
Oh, well, that's not a good cycle to be in.
No, it's terrible.
I got to get out of that.
Yeah, it sucks.
I'm actually recording our next episode at the pawn shop.
Wait, why?
Because they'll let you borrow a mic?
Yeah, they're going to let me use it.
I can set it up there.
Yeah, you can't leave the counter.
You have to record everything.
It's like, I just need to check out this MacBook for about an hour and a half.
I just need to look at it.
You're some guy turning a gun in.
So anyways, I don't like any of that.
I appreciate that a lot, and I would love some stability in my life.
You guys are wonderful.
But yeah, we'll be back next time.
What?
So you can come live in my other bedroom.
Thanks, David.
Wow, that's kind of cool.
Okay.
Let's have a retreat.
Well, you guys are going to come see Josh.
Yeah, we got to see Josh.
And Brett, what's her face?
Brett Cooper.
We're going to go to the bottom.
Meeting Brett Cooper.
But yeah, until next time, I'm Byron.
I'm Dennis.
And I'm Jared.
Take care.
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