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June 20, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 66: PIERS 2: MICHELIN STAR RACIST (MAY 20TH, & 21ST, 2025)

The boys are on final approach towards the present, but take a quick pit stop at Piers. A place where Steven strategically slurs, gets mad when it's cut, then airs it himself. Aren't things fun right now? Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	This is an AudioWool original.
	AudioWool It's about say the n-word.
	Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast louder with Crowder.
	My name's Byron, and go darn it.
	We punt, we cross our fingers, we talk about college-age Stephen being inappropriate towards minors, and I even get lost in the desert for a bit.
	Is it an innuendo?
	Only to return to Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis and a clearer picture of his cognitive decline.
	I forgot about his cancer.
	I thought you were going to say a clearer picture of his buttle.
	That would have been a good thing a couple years ago, huh?
	Pride Month having gone missing, at least in the government and in box stores.
	Elon losing his cool after getting his fucking ass whooped.
	Dude, hard.
	Calling Trump a pedophile before saying he regrets some of his posts this week, that they went too far.
	And Waymo's doing great.
	And being on fire because they're basically informants.
	The world is on fire in general.
	And I only slept two hours last night.
	So instead of wading into all of that, we're sticking to our guns both on the desk and in our holsters.
	Finally talking about Stephen saying the N-word on the May 20th, 2025 episode of the Pierce Morgan Uncensored Program.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So much was said there.
	Yeah, finally.
	What did I miss about Waymo?
	First of all, Dennis is here.
	I'm here.
	Hey, what's up?
	Tell me about Waymo.
	And all the way in Occupy, Texas, where self-driving Teslas have officially been activated, 2,000 of them are being sent to L.A. to squash a riot.
	The Teslas?
	Yeah, 100% illegal aliens from insane asylums are over there, if you can believe it.
	That's wild.
	Jared, hi.
	house taxes.
	Uh, apparently Elon Musk is taking over the streets.
	So, yeah, I've just been at work all day and yesterday.
	Autobots.
	Activate.
	No, so a lot of Waymo's had been being burnt.
	Waymo's like self-driving taxi.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So during the LA protests surrounding the ICE situation that's currently going on.
	I don't know if this is true.
	I didn't really look into it because I didn't sleep.
	I was busy.
	You had time to look into it.
	No, I was doing a lot of stuff.
	Awake.
	Apparently Waymo records 360 cameras and gives that footage to law enforcement.
	Is that true?
	Well, I'll tell you this.
	I was in LA the other week and I saw a Waymo exhibit that shows you basically how it looks and it's straight up just like a 360 image of everything that it's seeing.
	So if it is in fact on the side just selling that information to police, it's like public data.
	It's surveillance.
	Who would be surprised?
	This is what every company does.
	If you have a camera attached to your company, you're selling it to the government.
	That's how I make all my money.
	Oh, for selling things to...
	You're kind of a mercenary, too.
	I am.
	I'm a mercenary.
	I don't know.
	So, as we sit down tonight, I think it actually might have wrapped up, but Crowder and the gang are doing a really cool live stream.
	Are they?
	Yeah, ice riots, boots on the ground in Los Angeles.
	Is someone in LA from them?
	Ginger Snap?
	No.
	I forgot about Thirst Trap.
	I think he's there.
	He's there.
	Yeah, but it's actually been pretty peaceful today.
	At least when I checked.
	So they're just watching old clips of police hitting people with batons.
	Cool.
	Remember that guy who got shoved over and hit his head and bled out of his ears?
	Yeah, that was awful.
	That was terrible.
	And so is this.
	Yeah, nothing happened to the cop that did that.
	Is that right?
	Yeah, no, I mean, it's pretty much just like as if a whole bunch of hosts of America's Funniest Home Videos exist in hell.
	Great.
	Yeah, Bob Saget's replaced by like James Woods or something.
	John Voight.
	Sure.
	Dave Coulier.
	He actually takes it over.
	I don't know.
	Is Dave a bad guy?
	No, no, no.
	But remember, he had the other one.
	He had the less successful one.
	I guess you're right.
	With the jackrabbit or whatever.
	It has bad vibes over there.
	I love the idea of things not being spicy enough, so you look in the archive and just laugh at horse cops hitting people.
	Watch this guy get hit in the head.
	Yeah, and they're like, that horse cop's a lady cop!
	And I'm like, fuck this.
	That's a DEI hire.
	I gotta get out of here.
	I mean, we talked a little bit about it.
	We start with a pretty unsurprising admission as to...
	It's a problem.
	I think we're in a silly point in this country when we're pulling this clip to condemn the anti-Semitism here at the studio and people going, hey, can I get a second cut of that N-word?
	Kale Hitler?
	So of course, Kanye, Yay, yay.
	Well, back then it was yay.
	Is it yay yay now?
	It's yay yay.
	No, it's not.
	Yeah, it's two yays now.
	Double yay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	We even skipped over the Hail Hitler era.
	I mean, things are moving such a clip.
	It's happening so fast.
	Shit's going on, dude.
	Things are not good.
	Yeah, speaking of clip, the new clips, the new clips record's coming out.
	Oh, that's kind of sick.
	I thought you were talking about great clips.
	I thought you were talking about hit clips.
	Oh, I miss hit clips, dude.
	Wonderful.
	I miss the hit clips as well.
	Short songs.
	Hit me, baby, one more time.
	Let's make a Steven Crowder hit clip.
	I think that sounds...
	We'll figure it out.
	I am fine with that.
	Connie dropped the Hail Hitler song.
	The gang already admitted that they could never stop using the F slur.
	that's why i'm immediately like why would i ever think that they don't care about other slurs in the office you could also say uh how about give me another cut of the kanye song one i don't think the term hail hitler is explicitly offensive it's only offensive when used in context and steven will argue later in the episode that the same should be with the n-word but i tell him he has no permission to do that.
	He has nowhere that the context would be appropriate.
	Honestly, he's being kind of anti-Semitic even by Sure.
	It's just a bad faith conversation.
	Yeah, it sucks.
	But we will get to Piers' episode, which is called I'm Gonna Say It!
	N-Word Censorship Debate with Stephen Crowder and Mark Lamont Hill.
	Who we mentioned briefly in our Cold Feet Crowder episode.
	I want to say thanks real quick for people sending in some Cold Feet Crowder art.
	Art?
	Yeah, I think mostly AI generated, but I'll take it.
	It's a lot of fun.
	There's a whole bunch of cedars around Stephen crying, a Surrounded.
	Whoa!
	They did that concept.
	That was fun.
	Thanks, world!
	And some nice tweets, keeping the hashtag Cold Feet Crowder hashtag alive.
	Does it have more hashtags than the Times Square billboard?
	I bet it does.
	I wonder if we have a celebration.
	We don't have celebration or anything.
	I don't know.
	That doesn't exist, does it?
	I don't know.
	Only he will bring us closer when we fall to our knees.
	That is our victory song.
	But yeah, Mark Lamont Hill is on the show.
	We mentioned him briefly.
	Like I said, he's known for going toe-to-toe with Roger Stone on the short-lived Gavin McGinnis-hosted show Free Speech.
	Is that the one that Stephen was going to be on?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	He's an American academic author, activist, and TV personality.
	Currently a professor of urban education at the CUNY Graduate Center in New York City, while also serving as the host of several news and talk programs like BET News, Al Jazeera English's Upfront, and the Joe Budden podcast since 2024.
	But you'll hear from him a little bit down the road.
	May 19th.
	Do you remember where you were?
	It's three days after May 16th.
	The Lag Wagon Holiday.
	Lag Wagon Holiday.
	It's a great song.
	I don't know where I was.
	So this episode of Crowder Show was called Joe Biden's Cancer Diagnosis Exposes Massive Cover-Up and Dan and Cash Confirm Epstein Unaliving.
	Remember Dan Bongino and Cash Patel had to say that Epstein actually did kill himself?
	What is going on?
	Why is something bad every week?
	Dude, I forgot Joe Biden had cancer.
	I'm not joking.
	I forgot about it.
	Wait, Joe Budden or Joe Biden?
	Biden.
	Former President.
	Former President Joe Biden has cancer.
	What if Jared just found out?
	Oh my god, I thought it was Joe Budden this whole time.
	All of his songs with Kanye.
	I don't know if that's true.
	Does he have these?
	I'm not sure.
	But clearly an episode about Joe Biden's cancer and the Epstein unaliving.
	I would have to tune into that.
	wouldn't miss it for the world.
	Yeah.
	Except, you know, Oh, hell yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Stephen wasn't there.
	He wasn't there on the day that Joe Biden's canceled.
	I know.
	That's the worst day.
	Man.
	I bet he's kicking himself.
	I bet he is, too.
	But they were, like, teasing it like they do.
	They're like, Stephen's on location doing something big in that court.
	He's got diarrhea in his bathroom.
	What are you talking about?
	Well, it's been a while since he's been to court.
	It's probably diarrhea.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Turns out, Sorry I said it like that.
	So yesterday...
	Piers Morgan.
	I was on, I believe it's Uncensored with Piers Morgan, the show.
	And it should be titled Censored with Piers Morgan.
	Fucking got it.
	Fucking smoked his ass, Steve.
	Clearly he knows what the show is.
	He's just a dumb donk.
	I'm gonna put that one on the board, dog.
	This is sick.
	Anti-woke, transphobe, pal of the president, on a mission to inform, irritate, and entertain Piers Morgan.
	The last time, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
	What's your general opinion now?
	The only thing I think about Pierce Morgan is when Alex Jones yelled at him about 1776.
	See, but that was a different era of Pierce.
	It was a totally different era of Pierce, yeah.
	Like, now Pierce is truly just looking to exploit conflict and division.
	I gotta say my pro wrestling Piers is trying to do a face turn.
	He's trying to be a babyface now.
	He's like, I don't know if you can really not call it a genocide any longer.
	Yeah, but then he says that and then it says trans people shouldn't be in sports.
	Save the end with!
	Save the end with!
	He's like Jerry Springer at this point.
	Yeah, he's kind of a villain.
	Not really any kind of a hero or anything like that, but I don't know.
	Watching his turn in the last couple of weeks has been very, like, I don't think it's going to work for me.
	The genocide thing?
	Yeah.
	It's like Bill Maher or something.
	It's like when Theo Vaughn came out a couple weeks ago and said that he thinks it's a genocide or something.
	You know, and you're like, okay, man.
	The last time we talked about a Steven appearance on the Uncensored program, episode 17, Peers 1. Peers 1?
	Kind of like Pier 1. Is that really the name of the title?
	Yeah, so now, unfortunately, this episode is...
	This is Peers 2 now.
	Pierce, two points to Stevens 1?
	Maybe.
	I'm just trying to keep track of it.
	That was the name I gave it.
	That was a lazy name.
	Even in the early days where they were really good.
	I forgot about Pier 1 Imports and Tire.
	Yeah, it's I think a bankrupt company.
	You didn't get one of those basket chairs?
	One of them papasans?
	I did date a girl a while ago who loved that store.
	I got a big bamboo vase to put dried sticks in.
	World Market is a new Pier 1. I guess that's probably true.
	But anyways, so is this going to be Piers 2?
	It's going to be Piers 2, I think.
	Unless you come up with a better pun.
	I'll try.
	That was episode 17, December of 2023.
	We've been doing this too long.
	The two tangoed over the definition of free speech and whether controversial online figures like Alex Jones should be banned from the program.
	What a different time.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I just keep thinking like now the internet is...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was the debate.
	Alex Jones was being bad.
	I mean, we started...
	It was all strategic.
	Steven loves big shit, dropping big shit, like Clean Slate, the replatforming.
	He's a showman.
	He's like James O 'Keefe, in a sense.
	He loves to create a spectacle.
	And, I mean, maybe that's why he's returning to the show.
	Maybe.
	But, yeah, the internet in general, run by billionaire lunatics.
	Anyone can be on the internet, and if you're mean, they boost you.
	It's just so different.
	I hate it, dude.
	Yeah.
	Stephen responded to a pretty intense exchange that happened the week before on Pierce's show and successfully positioned himself a return to the program.
	I guess that technique of kind of inviting yourself after being an asshole sometimes does work.
	Maybe just for Pierce.
	Yeah, I know.
	I hate it, dude.
	I am with you in every syllable of what you just let out of your mouth.
	But yeah, we'll get into what exactly happened ahead of Stephen's arrival to the program after we take a second to thank some folks who are supporting us over at shrug.club.
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	Hell yeah.
	Nice.
	Nice to hear from you again, actually, too.
	You piece of shit.
	Oh, fuck.
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	OK.
	Slow overlay sound effect.
	That's what I have written here.
	When I challenged self-professed racist podcaster Lily Gaddis to show her true white supremacist colours during an uncensored debate a few weeks ago, it's fair to say it all kicked off.
	I want to live in a country where people are allowed to say what they want unashamedly.
	And say it.
	Say the N-word.
	Go on.
	No, no, no.
	I don't want you to invite this woman to say a racially harmful term in front of me because I'm the only woman here.
	So if she says it, I'm the victim of it.
	Fair point, Mark.
	Kind of weird that Pierce didn't catch that sooner.
	I feel like if it was a room full of Jewish people and he's like, go on, say the gay word or something, the Jewish people would be like, wait, what are you doing?
	Dude, don't do that, man.
	Do the Elon.
	Do an Elon.
	I dare you to do an Elon.
	It's just like, how about we don't do that?
	But he got caught up in the moment.
	Also, Myron was there from Fresh and Fit, and he was like, he wanted her to say it really bad.
	Oh, man, he was there?
	Yeah, he was there.
	Myron was?
	Jesus.
	He loves having that guy on, I feel like.
	He does love Myron.
	Myron, he's a bit of a spice.
	And Myron, at the end of that episode, had one of those cartoon pistols that shoots a flag out of it, and on the flag it said the N-word.
	Oh, God.
	Steven doesn't bring that up.
	They censored Myron's pistol too, so...
	It's really bad.
	It's all just like Well, people just love being mad and being mean, I guess.
	I guess, dude.
	So I told you a little bit about Mark.
	Do you know about Lily Gaddis?
	I do.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, for folks who don't, she's one of those influencer trad wives who, a traditional wife, gained significant notoriety in 2024 after a viral TikTok video of hers in which she used the N-word while cooking.
	Is she black?
	No.
	No.
	White.
	Very white, actually.
	And then she kind of leaned into being the N-word girl, which is definitely not as chill as someone like the overly attached girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	A little bit more malignant than...
	I mean, if you want to be a piece of shit meme, I guess you can.
	It didn't really pan out.
	I think it's visibly financially for her.
	She's on Cameo.
	It's 40 bucks for a Cameo.
	Fuck, did you get one?
	I didn't, but four people apparently have, or four people left reviews.
	We can use a little bit of Shrug Club money for this.
	I don't want to pay a racist.
	No.
	Give her some money.
	We should try to trick her like Chris James did.
	God, that was good.
	What was that show?
	Not even a show.
	Chris James from Not Even a Show, but what was the show that he had her on?
	He made up the fake show.
	Also, thinking about you, Chris, he lost his dad a couple weeks ago.
	It's pretty tough.
	I had no idea.
	Sorry to hear that.
	Yeah, her bio on Cameo, some may know me as the N-word girl, but she said the real word.
	Nice.
	She hasn't been given her own show yet.
	It's early in the Trump administration.
	I imagine someone's gonna snatch her up.
	If that 22 year old kid can handle terrorism...
	You're right.
	What's that Joker from Andrew Wilson?
	Is that his name?
	I think he's got a new Rumble show.
	Oh, they gave the Bloodsport Debater a show?
	Hosted the Crucible, Andrew Wilson?
	It's called The Extravaganza or something like that.
	It's just the most dog dick ass name for it, for sure.
	Well, he's the host of a show called The Crucible, so I don't know.
	That guy sucks.
	He's really one of my least favorites because he is You'll just, like, say that.
	What do you mean, believe?
	Well, it's kind of the same line, except he is a little bit more snarky and dismissive than Jordan Peterson, if you can imagine.
	Fuck, man.
	But, yeah.
	I didn't say that.
	You did.
	I think you have your headphones on, Jordan.
	I think you're listening to the Jordan B. Peterson podcast.
	He's just listening to his own show.
	I'm trying to find a good point.
	Can't figure it out.
	I've made one before, I swear.
	I lost my damn mind.
	I couldn't get off benzos.
	I got COVID.
	I went to Russia.
	My daughter married Andrew Tate and then divorced.
	Did she really?
	Yes!
	Whoa!
	Yeah, some weird ass shit there.
	What an insane connected world.
	My daughter left her whole family for Andrew Tate.
	She saved me from a coma.
	And he didn't even put me in the manosphere.
	Oh, it's insane.
	The world is fucked.
	But yeah, we got some clips.
	The fallout from our segment went viral, provoking debate from the big names online, including one Stephen Crowder, who called me out for being completely disingenuous for my challenge to racist Gaddis.
	Big difference.
	So that challenge is not genuine.
	I do think that people shouldn't lose their livelihood or be condemned to racists for the rest of their life because they use a word in a context where there is no hate.
	That is not represented in the challenge of, say it right now just because you want to say it to black people.
	And then you have Mark Lamont Hill, who I've been on him with, he was always very nice to me.
	I mean, there's nothing more emasculating or self-emasculating than saying, someone will say a word and I will be the victim.
	He's just, I mean, so disingenuous, even right out the gate, like, saying that people shouldn't lose their livelihood if someone challenges them to say the N-word.
	How about we don't, like, just challenge people to do stuff that's hurtful, right?
	Don't say the N-word challenge, level impossible.
	Yeah, this is for the N-word challenge for ALS.
	I'm biting my lip.
	Dump water on me!
	With all of these things, with everything, the reaction post the thing.
	Is the big piece.
	Yeah.
	You know, because it's kind of, you know, forgive mistakes, punish patterns kind of a thing.
	If you are a bit of a piece of shit, not like a Shrug Clubber, but an actual piece of shit, and then people call you on it and you go, fuck you, I ain't a piece of shit.
	Well, people are going to be less likely to forgive you for your first shitty thing.
	Yeah, because you don't feel remorse.
	Yeah, well...
	True.
	I mean, obviously, dude.
	Well, I listened to Matt Walsh today, like I said, and he told me that America's becoming non-American now.
	Wait, what?
	Period.
	Period.
	America is now Mexico because there's more Mexicans here.
	Okay?
	Yeah.
	I think there's got to be less, right?
	No.
	I don't know, man.
	It sounds like...
	If there's more, there's more, and that means that there's less of the other.
	Yeah, dude.
	It's easy.
	If you replace half your pie with a burger, do you have a burger or a pie?
	You got a meat pie.
	That's a good question.
	Is hot dog a sandwich?
	Hot dog's a burger.
	Okay.
	Speaking of debates, the debate that caused all of this tension was about Shiloh Hendricks, who is a white woman from Minnesota who became the focus of natural controversy.
	Natural?
	I mean, naturally.
	Maddie.
	Big Maddie controversies.
	In May of 2025, after a viral video showed her repeatedly using a racial slur against a five-year-old black child at a Rochester playground.
	This is who I thought you were talking about before.
	I don't know the other girl.
	Oh, you don't know the N-word one.
	I mean, a lot of people have been saying it lately.
	I think it makes sense that you would get confused.
	This whole thing sparked outrage, clearly protests, and calls for legal action from the Rochester NAACP and community leaders.
	Hendrix defended her actions by claiming that the child had taken items from her son's diaper bag and was being mean.
	Following the backlash, she launched an alt fundraising campaign on Give, Send, Go.
	Great.
	Titled, Help Me Protect My Family.
	And did you know how much she raised, Dennis?
	I saw it, and I hate it.
	Yeah, you're mad about it, huh?
	I'm so fucking mad.
	We're nearing $800,000 that this woman who called a five-year-old the N-word several times...
	And she got that money just to protect her family?
	Yeah, she said her social security number got leaked.
	She, like, basically got doxxed.
	And for that, she wants a million dollars.
	She wants a million dollars.
	Her friends are hooking it up.
	Yeah, and mostly, and when you say friends, mostly far-right and white supremacist groups are the ones giving this money.
	Big up to the homies.
	So she made, I'm doing the math there, she made 53 years worth of minimum wage money.
	Break that down per slur.
	Per slur.
	That's a huge.
	Of course she was a victim of cancel culture for all of this.
	Of course she was.
	In this conversation, Luke, And everyone has kind of been trying to tie this together was the death of Austin Metcalf, a white 17-year-old who was stabbed by Carmelo Anthony, a black 17-year-old at a high school track meet in Frisco, Texas.
	Is that Carmelo or Carmelo?
	Carmelo?
	What did I say?
	You said it right.
	Frisco, Texas in early April 2025.
	I actually heard that it was Carmela Soprano.
	The wife of Tony Soprano?
	Yeah, I heard it was her.
	Do you think after it faded to black, it was just Tony that died?
	Or did they kill the whole family?
	I think it actually went into...
	Whatever he was thinking is way, way worse.
	Yeah, she got away and she started stabbing people.
	That's what happened here.
	Sorry, spoilers.
	Yeah, for folks who haven't seen the first HBO series ever.
	Yeah, I mean, it's a really unfortunate situation.
	The framing began to shift to black-on-white violence, became a flashpoint for racially charged rhetoric and misinformation, as it led to another give-send go, this time to support Carmelo's defense, and they raised about $500,000.
	Okay.
	All-around bummer, but there's some clear differences.
	Mark will talk about it later.
	We can talk about it too.
	I don't know much about that.
	But here's what I'll say is that those are mutually exclusive scenarios that should be judged independently.
	Yes.
	I don't know anything about that and that's terrible.
	It's awful.
	But also awful.
	Different types of awful.
	One of them is an adult using a racial slur towards a child.
	Which is unacceptable.
	Unacceptable.
	And another one is someone who stabbed somebody else.
	Also unacceptable.
	One person did something and admitted to it.
	This person is saying it was self-defense.
	I think they're different things, but we'll get into that later.
	Most importantly...
	I think I'm the innocent porn in the whole saga here.
	I'm just the one sitting here listening to a very, very unpleasant young white woman being deliberately racist, unashamedly racist, wants us to think she's a racist, admits to being racist.
	And when you talk about context of using the N-word, she is using it in that context.
	What?
	All I did was soak the fire.
	Whoa, listen.
	I'm innocent.
	I did nothing except bait, a racist, who I invited on the show.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	And knowing her as the N-word girl.
	So, I don't know, Pierce.
	I don't know what you wanted, man.
	Why did you have her on the show?
	Yeah.
	You didn't have to.
	No, but do you want to know a little more about what exactly Lily said?
	Sure.
	Obviously, in an attempt to boost her cameo numbers.
	Yeah.
	Here's the thing.
	White people have been under attack for years.
	It's been systematic racism.
	As much as black people and people of color want to talk about systematic racism in the United States, it's quite the opposite.
	They get preferential treatment when it comes to getting a job, when it comes to getting into colleges.
	White people, on the other hand, have been getting attacked relentlessly.
	Look at 2016 and BLM and all the riots.
	Was she doing this in a fucking convenience store?
	No.
	She's working a job at a 7-Eleven.
	I think it was a late guest coming on to Skype or Zoom.
	Oh, I love it.
	Because, I mean, Pierce, his production looks okay, I like the convenience store idea, though, better.
	Why just picture her working at a 7-Eleven somewhere?
	Well, she might have to.
	Can I get a pack of menthols, please?
	And she's just, like, busy.
	Just one second.
	I'm talking to Pierce.
	Excuse me.
	Menthols.
	Excuse me.
	Please.
	I want this Reese's Pieces cookie.
	Who are you talking to?
	Is that Piers Morgan?
	Let me talk to Piers.
	Yeah, clearly, white people being attacked in the wake of the BLM protests.
	Systematically?
	Wait a second.
	Systematically attacked?
	And wait, what was that whole thing in response to, though?
	I totally forgot.
	It was simple.
	A druggie tried to use a fake...
	Let me delete all this stuff.
	Certainly not violence and attacks at a disproportionate intensity pointed at people of color.
	You're wrong.
	Well, that's why I deleted it.
	Five years sober today.
	He's saying George Floyd is five years sober.
	Oh, fuck.
	Jesus.
	Yikes.
	Don't cut it.
	I won't.
	So let's hear her out.
	Let's hear her out.
	Let's hear her side.
	I want to hear it.
	We just had to sit back and watch people burn down our cities and do nothing about it.
	So the way to fight back against essentially this anti-white hatred that's been systemically, you know, ingrained in U.S. society is with white unity.
	We don't see white unity on.
	Okay, hang on.
	I agree.
	Yes, sister.
	Are you snapping over there?
	I am.
	Preach.
	White unity, huh?
	White unity?
	Isn't that just the Republican Party?
	Alright, come on now.
	White unity.
	We need white strength and white unity and white electricity.
	Maybe even white power.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Psycho, thanks for catching that, Pierce.
	We're trying to get Louie the lightning bug on.
	Come on, little buddy, just listen to me.
	Gotta play safe around electricity.
	Local power company commercials are not going to play well.
	I'm leaving it in.
	I don't know if it's local.
	I mean, it was regional.
	People know Louis the Lightbug?
	Let us know.
	Why don't you reach out to us?
	I actually covered one of those songs.
	There's a really nostalgic Christmas one that I really like.
	Dude, there's some old jingles that I want to hear so bad.
	Yeah, well, they're all on YouTube.
	Not all of them.
	The one I want to hear is not.
	It's an echo in your heart.
	The Olies one is very good.
	But there's multiple.
	I'll tell you all about it later.
	Olies is a gas station, everybody.
	Okay, that's enough.
	Yeah, what an odd concept of white unity.
	But Pierce has got to say something, right?
	Yeah.
	Pierce, what do you got?
	Come in and get a great big smile at Olies.
	We are talking about a bona fide, unquestionable racist.
	So I don't understand why what you've just said to me bears any relation to white unity or anything you've just said.
	She's just a racist.
	End, isn't she?
	You wouldn't dispute that.
	Well, it's not about her.
	It's not about her.
	It's about white people finally coming together and supporting another white person.
	And it doesn't matter.
	Why would you want to support a white racist?
	Because I want to support free speech and you cannot have free speech in the country you can support free speech, but you also have to be accountable for what you say.
	She is Yes.
	You would?
	I do, quite frankly.
	You use the N-word quite frequently.
	Well, why?
	Other than the fact you're a despicable racist.
	Are you?
	Some would say I am.
	I guess, according to the ADL, I'm a white supremacist.
	I'm a neo-Nazi.
	Yeah, well, if you use the N-word repeatedly, you are a racist, are you?
	Sure, I'll embrace that.
	If that means forwarding, They're trying to bring legal charges against her.
	They're trying to get her children taken away.
	So you were saying, Carmelo Anthony, it doesn't matter.
	That's a different kind of thing.
	Sorry, but just to be clear, you just said to me you use the N-word regularly.
	In what context?
	Do you use it with black people?
	Yes, if it's appropriate.
	When would it be appropriate to use the N-word?
	When would it be appropriate?
	Anytime I feel like it.
	So you're an unashamed racist?
	Correct.
	She's Lily Gaddis.
	She loves to say the N-word.
	She also likes to shake things up a bit.
	I guess so.
	Remember Viva Viva the Bam?
	That intro?
	Yeah.
	Really cool person.
	Yeah, I think Piers was like, I'm going to get these flames going.
	Let's rile her up and get me a viral clip.
	Well, I mean, if you...
	We're talking about him because of this kind of shit, so...
	Of course, yeah.
	You think?
	And for him to act, like, surprised?
	She's like the Gordon Ramsay of N-word.
	He's a Michelin star racist.
	Great.
	Can that be the episode title?
	It's better than Pierce 2. Pierce 2 can be the parenthetical.
	Alright.
	Well, let's bring Steven in, right?
	Yeah, let's do it.
	I'll hear him.
	Sounds right.
	Over to you.
	Well, first off, thank you for having me, Pierce.
	I do appreciate it.
	And I want to be really clear about one thing.
	At no point in this conversation am I implying, insinuating in any way that you are racist.
	Because I know how much of a powder keg this can be.
	Two white people, in our case, especially with you, two very white people discussing this topic.
	He's like bringing him a bottle of scotch.
	What's he doing?
	Hey, I just want you to know, I'm not going to call you racist.
	I'm not going to judge you.
	Okay, you can say whatever you want here.
	It's almost like he's saying, hey, don't judge me.
	This is a hate-free zone.
	Okay?
	I mean, I hate people, and I'm going to say hate speech, but it's a hate-free zone between me and you.
	Because we're two white guys, right?
	Two white guys.
	Very, very white guys.
	A couple of unified white guys.
	We have very white-looking faces.
	Dude, you have no idea.
	I pulled up in the research for this.
	I was trying to find little little things I found the clip where he said that that I Do you remember this?
	He loves very blank faces.
	Yeah, but he did this in 2015 and, like, got, like, media matters and the news station, like, responded to him and said that was racist.
	Like, what happened?
	Like, now he says that every day.
	I think a lot about that, man.
	Like, quote-unquote cancel culture, right?
	Like, you would say shit and people would be pissed about it.
	It's gone now.
	Yeah, because it's not safe to be pissed unless you're pissed about vaccines.
	I don't fucking know, man.
	It's insane to me.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You're pissed because I'm a bad guy?
	I can only be pissed because I don't like transgender.
	Listen, you guys, I've had the worst day of my whole life.
	I called a five-year-old a racial slur and I've only made $800,000.
	That's the worst.
	That's the world we're in.
	It's America.
	It's just so much money, man.
	It's just so much money.
	$800,000 would change everyone's life of everyone I've ever met.
	Yeah.
	No one I've ever met would say, No thanks.
	That would not change my entire world.
	Why don't you beat up a minority?
	I don't...
	Now, I'm not super familiar with this lady, okay?
	If you say she's a racist, I'll take your word for it.
	Well, she admitted it.
	She admitted it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But we live in a society where right now the racism issue and words are being thrown down as landmines as someone is walking in reverse.
	And you can look at, for example, I think we're all adults.
	Context and the level of affront, which is what I was addressing there with Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, who's been very much a gentleman with me, and I'll determine the level of authenticity as to that offense.
	I think we're adults and we can have context.
	I don't think that there are boogeyman words.
	I think context matters more.
	I think that we as a society right now are canceling livelihoods over someone saying a word and permitting reprehensible behavior in the form of crime, in the form of the protests that we have seen in the last recent years.
	And I think I'd like a society where we are hard on actions and forgiving on words and certainly in the context of adulthood, able to understand.
	I support hard-on actions.
	Okay, well, come on, cool it, buddy.
	That's all I heard, too, man.
	Oh, man, I tell you what.
	You got the butt.
	He just gish-gallops so much.
	We know this, but...
	So what he's saying is, hey, listen, you know, because there's...
	Because there's crime.
	We need to be more understanding of the N-word being used.
	Well, he is saying that...
	Yeah, that's really cool, and I think that we should examine this more as a society as a really appropriate thing that she did.
	Maybe she's a trailblazer, actually, Beers.
	She's a hero.
	Well, she deserves more money.
	Maybe she's such a small business where it's like a rent-a-bitch.
	Or something.
	Also, I love that he started off, I don't know her, if you think she's racist, I'll take your word for it.
	Yeah, get fucked.
	This is what he always does.
	You know, I'll take your word for it.
	Yeah, sure.
	Tell me whatever you want about anybody.
	Well, I'm not gonna look into a person that I identify All of this information is available to me, and you are sending me links, and you are pointing to this information, but truly, I just can't speak to that.
	I've got to turn a blind eye to it.
	If it was a transgender shooter, though, he would know everything about them.
	Every single detail down to the bra cup size.
	Clearly.
	So yeah, this next part echoes the free speech conversation from 2023.
	I would never restrict your ability to say what the hell you like.
	That's fine.
	But there are limitations.
	The First Amendment in the United States Constitution is one of the most protective shields to free speech anywhere in the world.
	And yet it has a number, as you know, of exclusions of things that are not covered by the First Amendment.
	So I think this kind of-Like what?
	So this whole kind of all in- Well, it actually doesn't anything go.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Like what?
	Like what exclusions?
	Because I think we need to define it.
	Like what exclusions?
	Is it going to do the fire in a crowded theatre thing?
	No, no.
	If you look up the First Amendment and look at the exclusions, you know, pedophilia, pornography, things like that are not covered by First Amendment protection rights.
	That's not speech.
	That's not speech.
	Oh, my God.
	He's so annoyed.
	So I just pulled my text from 2023.
	Like incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, fighting words.
	Remember that bit I did?
	Words likely to incite immediate violence or breach of peace are not prohibited by the First Amendment.
	Those are kind of what I think Stephen's pointing at more so than the limitations on pornography and child sex stuff.
	Is that what they said too?
	I don't know.
	He doesn't know about pedophilia, but...
	Yeah, I don't know if that's explicitly stated in the first article of the Constitution.
	But, I mean, here's the thing, is that Stephen's arguing semantic.
	I'm sorry, I don't want to sound stupid.
	The Ten Commandments of the Bill of Rights.
	Yeah, the first commandment is no pedophilia.
	No pedophilia.
	Pedophilia is not speech.
	But no, Stephen is...
	Yeah.
	He's arguing some semantics.
	Definitions.
	And here's the thing.
	Child porn?
	That is speech.
	Define porn.
	Define believe.
	I'll know it when I see it.
	That is speech.
	It is speech.
	It's obviously illegal.
	Yeah, and there's other things.
	True threats, commercial speech, commercial speech like advertising.
	Saying fire in a crowded theater is speech.
	It's incitement, I don't know what he was saying.
	Yeah, you use your speech to Try and do a call to action without using your speech.
	Yeah, he just doesn't think that hate speech is part of this.
	What about my ASL, Dennis?
	Then what?
	That's speech, dude.
	That's speech.
	Yeah, but not if you don't know it.
	That's true.
	Then you think I'm just doing a groovy ass dance.
	But I'm actually ordering a bunch of elephants to crash through your You can go to your convenience store and see your snacks.
	All right.
	You can.
	And it's true if you're right.
	And a Dr. Pepper.
	Oh, wow.
	With that speech.
	On the elephant.
	You guys remember back when Yay Yay was just yay?
	I do, because I just found that out today.
	And he had a group of hooligans chanting a bunch of awful stuff in a warehouse in L.A., scaring folks.
	I do remember that, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let's say Kanye West's recent single, right?
	That's a problem.
	It's offensive.
	I think we both agree that it's borderline, at least anti-Semitic.
	Would we agree on that?
	Sorry, to say that again.
	Explicitly.
	Kanye West's recent song, his recent banger.
	We both agree it's at least on the line of anti-Semitic, right?
	No, I think it's over the line.
	What does he think the line, I mean, that's an interesting question.
	Do you have to actually commit a genocide for it to be anti-Semitic?
	Yeah, how long is it?
	You could interpret some of the things he's saying as analogies for personal frustration and becoming the worst person ever.
	However, if he wasn't an explicit anti-Semite to begin with, It would be different, right?
	Where does he think the line is, man?
	You know, like, the classic porn definition of, like, you'll know it when you see it kind of thing?
	Yeah, I learned it a minute ago.
	Steven doesn't know what anything is.
	Yes, I know it very well, actually.
	Jordan.
	It's the only thing Jordan knows.
	Horny B. Peterson here.
	He's got his shirt all buttoned down.
	He's got a blazer with no...
	Let me take a bounce of those.
	Wonderful.
	Using his necktie to pat his forehead down.
	Yeah, he's got the angel and devil.
	You know, his suit was, like, red and blue for, like, good and evil for a little bit there.
	That's dorky.
	That guy's cool, so I love him.
	That guy fucks.
	Steven doesn't get to call this a banger, though.
	No.
	He doesn't get to live in the nuance of this hate-filled song.
	I'm sorry, Steven.
	Everything he sang.
	I can't imagine he doesn't have a teleprompter because he talks very quickly and says the same thing on the next day during the recap of the show, which we'll hear some clips from that.
	He starts getting frustrated because things start moving away from his script and you can kind of feel it as a mediocre comedian and linguist would feel.
	That's how they would experience it.
	I agree.
	I'm trying to create a really, really blatant, So we both agree that it's anti-Semitic.
	I think it's bad.
	I think saying, hail Hitler, is bad.
	Okay.
	That is not, however, a violation in any way.
	Your First Amendment protects it.
	Now saying, I would like to, I am calling you to enact what Hitler has enacted, that's a call to action.
	Defamation requires damages.
	And I want to get to this because this does matter.
	Okay, when we're talking about this new song, We're looking at words that are offensive, a song that is offensive, but one is a boogeyman word.
	We have one noun, a verb, and a noun.
	Okay, we have a noun by itself, contextually.
	That's bad.
	Shouldn't say it, but it's not imbued with any power outside of historical context.
	The last noun, Hitler, is imbued with the power of the verb that precedes it: "Hail, to praise, to venerate." That'll get clipped even though I'm condemning the song as anti-Semitic and not one person here who would be the victim of a more severe call to action Borderline.
	This is like an 8th grader trying to debate his teacher during World War II week.
	I don't think you should be able to say that.
	What?
	There's a huge difference between saying the N-word, period.
	Yeah, totally.
	Stephen wanted to say that because he wants to normalize it.
	Oh, I forgot to say, during that little pause he did say it.
	Yeah, he did, yeah.
	And it was removed by peers.
	He just wants to normalize it.
	He's sick of people giving him weird looks when he says it all the time anyway.
	It's like when Mickey Rourke said the F-slur on Big Brother, and he's like, I was just talking about cigarettes.
	Yeah.
	It's like, no, dude.
	And Stephen's pseudo- His pseudo-intellectual take on breaking it down.
	Or a noun, a verb, a noun.
	Yeah, he's fucking doing Mad Libs.
	Yeah, he's going off.
	It's almost like he's back in his column days.
	Yeah, he's just trying to put together, like, I'm trying to write you guys the best joke right now, and you're just like, not letting me do it, Piers.
	The problem with Steven is that he has no credibility.
	This is like what we've talked about a little bit on this, but he's trying to say we as adults should be able to not have to monitor our language.
	And there's some amount of like responsibility that you would have to have with your language to not have to like.
	He's not somebody that has any of that want or responsibility.
	There's just none of that on his plate.
	So him saying it is like, you're right, he just wants to say it.
	He just wants to use it as how he's using the R slur or the F slur on his show regularly now.
	He's just like, well, why can't I use the N slur also?
	Jared, I just want my thoughts to dump out of my face.
	Yeah.
	And he can't judge me.
	Only God can judge me.
	Yeah, you can't judge my dumbass thoughts.
	Just let them come right out of my mouth.
	No filter.
	I got no filter, dude.
	Don't need one.
	So I will give him some credit.
	He did do an A, not a hard R. He does his standard, like, I'm doing a black guy's voice.
	Like, I'm really groovy or whatever the fuck.
	Yeah, they're all pimps.
	He tries to put some stank on it.
	Yeah, and it's just like...
	He's trying, yeah, he's like, I'm gonna hang out on this, but it's almost like he's trying to do, like, an ad for Mug Club, you know?
	Like, he's trying to, like, drop, like, a calling card, and he's just like, I go there.
	He's really just trying to let it out.
	My cameo is 60 bucks.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I'll say whatever you want me to.
	Jesus Christ, buddy.
	No, yeah.
	No worries.
	Mug Club is free this week.
	I mean, we know him at this point pretty well, so I'm not surprised.
	No, it's just blatant.
	It also felt like he was trying to do a Robin Williams a little bit.
	Like, do this kind of talk frantic thing.
	I hated it.
	Yeah, it was bad.
	Steven is such a try-hard with his delivery of everything.
	It reminds me so crazy.
	Yeah.
	And, of course, context matters.
	Yeah, of course it does.
	I agree with the point that I'm making, Pierce.
	Do you understand the point?
	again, as a linguist, when you look at that, context matters.
	And if someone is going to say, or try to, by the way, attribute any hatred or malice in someone's In your instance, I understand it.
	And this one right here.
	So this is where I play the millionaire music.
	This episode is leaning meta, and I apologize.
	Where do you think he's going to land on this?
	What do you think his take is on calling a five-year-old black boy the N-word?
	Well, was he being an N-word?
	I mean, that's an option.
	It's one of the four.
	That's definitely on there, yeah.
	I'm going to go with...
	He's going to walk past it and get back to his script?
	Yes.
	Both great answers.
	If you could also give one of those, we didn't see what happened before they started recording.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Context matters, Pierce.
	Did they have a Talkboy tape recorder?
	Did someone else say it and play it loud?
	It was Macaulay Culkin.
	Could have been.
	All right, well, let's find out.
	And if you're playing at home, yeah, play along.
	Call AT&T.
	Three, two, one.
	I don't think that someone should scream the N-word at a child any more than I think a grown adult should call a child a piece of shit.
	What an asshole.
	Piece of shit.
	We have a new piece of shit, though.
	We do, and that's kind of the upside of this.
	That's all we needed.
	I'm happy with it.
	I'm happy with the whole show.
	I'm just dropping little Easter eggs around for us.
	The n-word is equivalent to calling someone a piece of shit.
	A piece of shit, yeah.
	Or it's fine to call a kid that if they're being negative.
	I'd say Dennis is probably closest, right?
	He's saying like basically...
	Was he being a piece of shit?
	Because I can call him a piece of shit.
	What was he wearing?
	Yeah, what was he wearing?
	He was asking for it.
	Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.
	I've officially listened to Too Many Hours of Crowder.
	It gets kind of boring when you can just guess what he's going to say.
	What do you think Stephen's going to say about his experience with the black community?
	I think he's going to talk about how his black friends are always fine with him saying it.
	Interesting.
	I don't know if I recall him ever saying, I mean, other than the Hodge twins, which they're no longer friends.
	He's going to say black, white, gray.
	Black, white, gray?
	He said that multiple times.
	Oh, interesting.
	I feel like I've heard him say that.
	Gray issues or something.
	Oh, black and white and the gray issues.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, let's see.
	I was raised, and I want to be clear about this, and I know I'll be told that I don't know anything about the black experience, so I'm not saying from you, but people will watch this and say you couldn't possibly know, in a post-racial America, by the way, largely Canada, the most recognizable faces on earth, Michael Jordan.
	Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson.
	I'm going to pause it there for a second.
	I forgot about when we Google searched Val Kilmer or whatever.
	I tried to do it again.
	I can't figure it out.
	I don't know where he's getting that they are the most recognizable faces in the 90s and 80s.
	Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, and Michael Jordan.
	It's because he just probably had posters.
	He had those posters.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	So he just probably had a Wheaties.
	Huge fan of Wheaties.
	Loves fiber.
	Shit's like a dream.
	He remembered the Thriller video because it scared him.
	It scared me too!
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so.
	Basically.
	Yeah, we're back here again.
	Probably for the fourth time.
	Probably.
	And the point is, our greatest export was culture, and America celebrated our black celebrities.
	I didn't think about watching Fresh Prince or Urkel with my close black friends.
	But today, when you look at this, this is a reaction to white people.
	And this is important.
	And if you want to know what the reaction is, look at Gen Z voting males, in particular Hispanic males who we've been told, including by Dr. Hill, should be natural allies of the black community.
	When you're a white person in this country and it's, hey, you don't know the lived experience, but I know yours.
	When it's, hey, if you move into an area, that's gentrification.
	But if you leave, it's white flight.
	It's, hey, sit down and shut up.
	And then it silences violence.
	It's, hey, you can't use empirical in making an argument about neighborhoods regarding crime data.
	But you also can't say you have a black friend, which, by the way, is a completely legitimate defense against racism.
	So that's definitely not written on a monitor in front of him, right?
	Oh my god.
	And check his eyes, are they moving?
	Oh, that'd be fun to review.
	Gentrification or white flight?
	You don't think that maybe there's some nuance in the middle of just people moving because they want to move somewhere else?
	They're abandoning us!
	It's just insane.
	The worry that must rest in his belly every day.
	Well, his mention of you can't cite empirical data because blah blah blah blah.
	That resonates with me a lot because I had somebody in my life who defended a really racist joke trying to use empirical data.
	Oh, that's not a good idea.
	No, no, no.
	And all of it is is just like, hey, listen, Stephen, you were talking so much about context for all of these things.
	And everything you're talking about requires context.
	Everything he was saying is as if it was in a Tom McDonald song.
	Oh, totally was.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like that's literally it.
	Like especially I'm using the data one as an example because the data he's talking about is like a it's a report of the results of what's happening.
	It's not like.
	Oh my gosh, you know, crime is high in black communities because black people commit crime!
	That's not what that is.
	But an idiot might draw those conclusions.
	Of course.
	I'm sorry to hear that you're an idiot about that.
	Yeah, and I'm sorry to say that no points were awarded that round.
	No points, sorry.
	Moving on.
	And I want to make one last point.
	What?
	I do a segment on this show called Black and White and the Gray Issues, where I will, as Dr. Hill does, go into barbershops, go into black neighborhoods and discuss these issues with them.
	And not once, not once has anyone accused me of a whiff of racism.
	Also, Media Matters, Right Wing Watch, lots of YouTube and new media folks.
	Maybe not the 10 black people that you talked to for an hour once on camera while you were surrounded by your goon crew.
	I don't know why you think that people would be publicly calling you racist if they agreed to be on your program, which you record.
	He's got three episodes.
	They're each an hour long.
	And that's enough for him to say that he has lived the black experience.
	Of course he has, dude.
	I've gone into a barbershop.
	I've been in there three times.
	I didn't even buy a haircut.
	The way that Stephen behaves on those is different than the way he behaves on his own show.
	Of course he is.
	He's very cautious.
	Instead, Stephen, try this.
	Hey, Stephen, do the voice around this.
	Try this, Steven, instead of just going in and talking to black people, What do you think of my stuff?
	What do you think of my bit?
	Would you still be talking to me this kindly if you knew what my show was?
	You'd be looking like Elon Musk.
	I do it several times a week.
	There's a lot of it out there.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, the ship gets straightened out by peers, actually, as we return to that program.
	I think I see that there's still like 10% journalist somewhere inside of him.
	In Pierce?
	Yeah.
	It's false outrage.
	If you don't mind me saying, you're being slightly distracting from the actual story, which to me should be an open and shut case.
	Whether you're on the left or the right, it should not be difficult to watch footage of a white woman repeatedly using the N-word at an adult black male and then using it at a five-year-old I mean,
	no.
	Didn't I say you shouldn't say it?
	I guess.
	But at the same time, after you said that, you talked about landmines and boogeyman words.
	You shouldn't say it, but I fully support her right to say it.
	Yeah, she should say it, actually.
	She should.
	I mean, you shouldn't, but she should.
	It's funny if she says it, because it helps me say it more on my show.
	It doesn't help me if you make it sound like I'm doing something bad, Pierce.
	If you make me sound racist, it's harder to be racist.
	Do you think he would say it if he had a black puppet on his hand?
	You ever think about stuff like that?
	Maybe.
	He just gets full Jeff Dunham.
	Yeah, what would you do if you saw Jeff Dunham put a black puppet on his hand?
	You'd be like, oh no!
	He clears his throat.
	What are we doing?
	It's fine, Crowder said it on his show, so now I'm gonna say it on my comedy set.
	Yikes.
	Is it right that she's now had hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations to support her?
	I say again, that is completely ridiculous and outrageous.
	And it's been whipped up by a fake kind of moral equivalence.
	Well, you know what?
	People are racist about white people, so of course we should support her.
	No!
	Just take a line in the sand and say, if you use the N-word against black people, you are being racist if you're white, you know you're being racist, you shouldn't do it, and you should face consequences when you do it.
	And your first reaction if you're somebody else involved who's white looking at that story shouldn't be, here's some of my money to help you, you poor victim.
	She wasn't the victim.
	The victim was the five-year-old black child.
	We should all be able to say, yes, that is what happened there.
	There's no equivalence.
	There's no ambiguity.
	There's no, you know what?
	Maybe this, this story, this.
	No, let's just have a clear line in the sand and say that is wrong.
	That is racism.
	End.
	Surely?
	No.
	Oh, fuck.
	This is the kind of guy who watches a video of someone famously beating his wife and being like, you don't know what she said before he hit her.
	What was she wearing?
	Exactly, that's all.
	Yes, Steven, I can totally believe.
	How do you think he's going to pull this one off, though?
	I don't think he's going to do it.
	I mean, is he going to land it?
	He goes, uh...
	Uh...
	Now, do you want to know which part I disagree with?
	Yes.
	Certainly not the part that I already agreed with.
	Shouldn't yell the N-word at a black person five years old or 50 years old.
	But the reason for the GoFundMe amount, you can simply dismiss it and say those people are racist, or I am telling you that you are seeing a statistical reality emerge where, by and large, the rejection of countries like where you and I are from.
	The policing of speech and the out-of-context use of boogeyman words to try and destroy people's livelihoods where white people are going, yeah, yeah.
	The conversation, though, isn't that you shouldn't do that.
	We all know that.
	The conversation is, I can lose my job if I sing along to my favorite hip-hop album, whether enter the Wu-Tang or Kanye's college dropout.
	That's the conversation.
	I'm so confused.
	He was just saying that it shouldn't matter if he's rapping every word to College Dropout.
	If I'm in my car and I'm just singing the songs, because that's how the song is written, I hate that.
	I think that is the dumbest shit.
	It's like, you know it's there.
	You don't have to say it.
	It's very easy not to say it.
	It's just so fucking dumb.
	What I do in my car when I'm in traffic is I say the N-word.
	I slur.
	What do you say?
	I do private slurs.
	Excuse me?
	The way that he's describing it is his...
	It's just like...
	Well, this is like...
	It happened to Steven.
	And the people at school, like all of his friends at school found out about it.
	Yeah, in the womb or not.
	And so they came together and bought him a gun.
	Not a bad idea.
	I bet Gives and Go would be all about that.
	Yeah, that's the kind of idea.
	It's like, hey, listen, we know you're a piece of shit, but...
	We prayed on it, and we're going to buy you a gun.
	We think it's important that you...
	Be a bigger piece of shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	He minimizes the, of course, Of course you should have that.
	But if it means that I have to care about the other times I say the N word, I'm not gonna stop.
	If I can't listen to the Wu-Tang in my car and sing Dude, you can't.
	Every word to bring the ruckus.
	He also do karaoke though.
	Even though it's censored in the karaoke, What?
	Dude, you didn't need to do that.
	Yeah, but I know the words to it, because I sing it in my song all the time.
	In the Ford Raptor, I put it up on the screen and I just sing along to it.
	Aren't you guys impressed by me?
	I know all the words.
	I don't even have to look at the screen.
	Cash rules everything around me!
	So at this point, I put my head away from the screen into my hands.
	I needed a little break because I was feeling a little annoyed by the present.
	So I dug around for other times that Stephen had an opinion on the N-word.
	And I'm not talking nuclear.
	What if I was the whole time?
	Yeah, the whole time we're talking about nuclear?
	genuine It's a scary thing.
	It freaks people out.
	Oh, because of Israel.
	January 30th, 2015.
	I wonder where that puts us.
	Man, that's a long time ago.
	Yeah.
	Let's run this clip of Kevin Costner because it was very surprising to me.
	I hate to be one of those guys who ever latches on to a celebrity and says, he's a conservative.
	But I think you'll like what Kevin Costner had to say on CNN about Ferguson and about race relations in America.
	Uh-oh.
	Well, it's not that I got there.
	I mean, I grew up in a place called Compton.
	When I say I grew up, that's a loose term.
	I was there for the first eight years of my life.
	So my extended family, my immediate family, I was very conscious of these words.
	I don't ever remember them being said in anger.
	But it doesn't mean they weren't arrogant.
	It doesn't mean they weren't callous.
	They weren't ignorant, if you will.
	People's feelings.
	So I saw it.
	I used those words.
	You've said the N-word?
	Sure.
	Multiple times.
	You have said, anytime someone wants to shut a conversation down, you just invoke race.
	It's not the only way you do it.
	But when you want to shut a conversation down, you also can walk away.
	Whatever happened in Ferguson?
	So, I think there's so much going on there that people will miss.
	When he says, when Kevin Costner says, sure, I've used the N-word many times in my life, and it was when I was playing with other black athletes, and maybe a majority of Americans have never said it.
	What he's saying is, screw you.
	What?
	What he's saying is, screw you for trying to judge me on having ever used one word.
	I don't know if anyone was doing that.
	I've been saying fuck, cock, shit, and ball since I was six.
	Kevin Costner, he grew up in the 1950s.
	Yeah, when it was hard R. Yeah, and like, dude, I'm not, I mean, I do too, because he's not currently using it.
	Yeah, and he's being reflective about it.
	He's not fighting to use it.
	He's not fighting for the right to use it.
	What do you think he was doing on Yellowstone the whole time?
	That's a good question.
	He was using it pretty liberally with Harrison Ford, if you ask me.
	You know, I know a lot of people who were extras over at Yellowstone, and they could say that exact thing.
	No, of course not.
	As soon as they say cut, you will not believe what this dumps out of his face.
	It's like they hold it up.
	He had a jar.
	He had a jar.
	It was filled up by the end of the day.
	They're burping like a pickle jar.
	It has to come out.
	They're making kimchi.
	Yeah.
	They've got a slur.
	They're going to stop acting.
	One of my favorite things that Stephen does is he'll say like, you may have missed it, but what he's really saying is, and Gerald does it too, and then they'll like, it's like the Power Rangers thing.
	Remember how they were basically putting words in the mouth of the Black Ranger?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They love an opportunity where something is so ambiguous that they can take advantage of it.
	Sure.
	It reminds me of when Michael Scott has that bit on The Office where Ryan's being a dick to him.
	And he's like, you might not have heard it, but he said, hey man, I miss you.
	And I love you.
	And I'm here for you, man.
	I don't know if I remember that.
	It's a great bit.
	I'll post it on our Twitter.
	Okay, good.
	Can I have the password?
	Yeah, actually.
	I'm sick of it.
	We put it online.
	Of course.
	I'll tweet it to you.
	Tweet it to me.
	Every single person in this country at some point, with the exception of, and I mean single digit numbers.
	Has said the N-word.
	Everyone from my generation.
	Anytime I sing along to hip-hop radio, which, by the way, I listen to a lot.
	I know it surprises people.
	Kanye.
	You do not look like a hip-hop fan.
	I don't look like a hip-hop fan.
	You look like a Maple Leafs fan.
	Kanye's College Dropout is one of my favorite albums.
	There it is.
	Weird Science is another band I really love.
	I love Kid Cudi.
	I love hip-hop, okay?
	Okay.
	I bet he hates Kid Cudi now.
	Giving up the ghost on P. Diddy?
	Are you kidding me?
	And I think Cuddy showed up to a fashion week in a dress one time, Wait till Darren gets a load of this guy.
	My dad's gonna love me so much more when I show him this.
	Look who I don't listen to anymore, Dad.
	Here's the thing with Stephen's approach here and his approach ongoing is he's not recognizing growth as people develop and learn, holy shit, I fucked up.
	I did bad things when I was younger.
	Well, he's a conservative, not a progressive.
	That's true, yeah.
	It's kind of definitional.
	That's true.
	You know, I got a sealed copy of College Dropout.
	On vinyl or?
	Oh, damn.
	I have.
	What color?
	Because I know that there's the maroon one and then there's the...
	I gotta say, I love that record, too.
	I love hip-hop.
	It is a good record.
	I haven't listened to it in a long time, but we're all the same age as Steven.
	That was a great record when it came out.
	Cisco?
	Driving around in my minivan listening to College Dropout.
	Man, I'll tell you what.
	Oh, man, I'll tell you what.
	I remember I worked at a Hastings at that time in the music department and he used records, CDs that would come in.
	I would get for like 50% off or something and I got that record and I was like, God damn, this is sick.
	Family business?
	Do you remember like you would go to the store and there would be those Oh, yeah.
	And you'd put on headphones, like, tap, and it would play, like, one song from it.
	That was sweet.
	Like, I used to go and listen to the Pure Moods one.
	Oh, hell yeah, dude.
	That was a lot of fun.
	Go to Target and get my bliss on.
	Oh, man, I tell you what.
	The Deposition with Paula Deen.
	Remember that?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	She was a baker or whatever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Cook.
	Chubby Baker looked like Ursula from Little Mermaid.
	That one.
	Disney.
	She was asked, have you ever used the N-word?
	That was the really big question, and she said yes.
	And there were other things that went on, but she said yes.
	Okay, Fundip, I want you to ask me, Stephen Crowder, if I've ever used the N-word.
	Stephen Crowder, have you ever used the N-word?
	Every single time I sing along to College Dropout, Kanye's arguably best album.
	Every single time if I'm in my car.
	I don't self-censor.
	Okay.
	He's enthusiastic.
	I say it with a hard N and a hard R. So inside of Paula Deen's, I'm so shocked that she's still able to sell pots and pans at Walmart.
	I got a knife.
	Oh yeah?
	Is it a good knife?
	Is it nice?
	You know, I was told it was.
	Is it full tang?
	I don't touch it because I'm worried I might start saying it myself.
	Is it Damascus?
	Yeah, you can't do that.
	It's scary.
	She admits to using the N-word and also admitted in this deposition, I gotta tell you, I probably would have lied, expressing a wish for a wedding served by waiters dressed as slaves.
	I'm sorry, what?
	One more time?
	That was in Paula Deen's deposition.
	That's a deposition.
	You don't need to say your believees in your deposition.
	Yeah.
	Just say what you did.
	Well, maybe she said it out loud to someone.
	Okay.
	I had a good time at the function.
	Jeez, man.
	Yeah.
	Would have had more fun if there were some slaves around me.
	Okay.
	Like, I clipped that, everybody.
	She said it.
	Steven says the N-word.
	Steven says the N-word all the time when he sings in his car.
	Sure.
	We have proof.
	At least he did it back in 2015.
	And back in 2015.
	And Gerald probably does the same thing because that's typically Gerald's...
	Well, but he did remember for a little bit in high school, and he had black friends on the football team.
	He definitely did.
	Sure did.
	I remember when I heard the N-word actually used.
	In a racist way.
	So I'm not talking about someone's, you know, I ain't talking about, she ain't messing with no bro.
	I'm not talking about singing along to some song.
	I'm talking about a guy using it where he was at a Bob Evans.
	I was at a Bob Evans in Lynchburg, Virginia.
	And he sat down and he said, you know, these filthy N-word.
	And I remember my heart about stopped.
	I couldn't believe that I had heard someone use that in that way.
	And it made me realize just how rare it is.
	Doesn't matter, landmines, boogeyman.
	Words.
	Fuck it.
	Who cares, right?
	Steven, if it's said commonly, then it will not have that same effect on you.
	Yeah.
	If it's said all the time.
	I'm looking for it to give me a hard-on!
	Did you say my name?
	Sorry, that wasn't close.
	That wasn't as good.
	I got too excited.
	Wonderful.
	Yeah.
	So that's a fun little segment of Stephen admitting to using the N-word.
	I love to hear Fun Dip.
	You should have seen it.
	He was on a screen behind Stephen.
	Like a Skype screen.
	Okay.
	That was awesome.
	Did he start playing music to like, They're on the radio, so they have to go to break.
	Okay.
	I wasn't sure if it was like Fun Dip.
	It was like, all right, and music.
	Fun Tip is unfortunately seeming to be kind of participating, right?
	I mean, he laughed at Paula Deen looking like Ursula when He goes, yeah, I like Butterfingers or something.
	You're like, what, dude?
	Hi, Dr. Pepper today.
	Another Dr. Pepper.
	Yeah.
	You know what I had for breakfast today?
	36 ounces of prime beef sandwich.
	Oh, I miss him.
	We gotta go back.
	We gotta go back.
	Like the film Lost.
	Film?
	Television show.
	Back to Pierce.
	Context gets explicit.
	The context of the one in the playground was to be deliberately racist.
	Well, the context of the playground was that her child was having another child steal from her child's bag and she was upset.
	And again, it still doesn't make it right, but let's also provide some context.
	The point that I was addressing was you labeling everyone who gave to the give, send, go.
	By the way, I've also never been labeled woke, right?
	That's very, very silly.
	$782,000, I believe, give or take.
	Maybe it's $882,000.
	But hold on a second.
	You say that every single person who is giving to that is the equivalent of the person yelling the N-word at a five-year-old.
	No, I didn't say that.
	No, no, no.
	No, no, I didn't say that.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	No, I didn't say that.
	That's the interruption buzzer.
	I said they're wrong to do it.
	I'll be done in 20 seconds.
	20 seconds.
	Would we also say then that the people giving to Anthony, Carmelo Anthony, support the wanton stabbing of white kids who die in their twin brother's arms?
	What I'm saying is there is a reaction to people being told to sit down and shut up and silence his violence and words being used.
	To end their livelihoods.
	And that is the conversation that is taking place in this country.
	And most people are refusing to have it.
	Of course, you shouldn't yell the N word at a five-year-old.
	You got it.
	But there's no segment if that's where we end it.
	Well, you don't need to have the segment.
	But it's also not what's happening.
	I agree.
	Like, Stephen knows what a million dollars looks like.
	I mean, he had to hand it to his wife.
	For sure, exactly.
	He knows what it looks like on paper.
	This woman who said it at a child.
	Got nearly almost that amount of money.
	Do you know how much I got?
	No one's getting canceled for it.
	Almost $800.
	Not in this instance.
	checked it today when I paid more.
	I give a little bit every week.
	I had to check and see my monthly subscription.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	My racism subscription?
	They're trying to cancel her, but not on my watch.
	Have another $15, Shiloh.
	So dumb.
	We're going to get you to that million.
	If we heard the part where Piers explicitly called Stephen Woke Wright, which I've really been enjoying the exploration of that term.
	I don't know if you have a solid...
	What is woke?
	Woke is like sensitivity to social justice and progress, I guess.
	Sure.
	But it goes both ways.
	You know, all these people who are obsessed with culture war topics like race, gender, and sexuality, social injustice in the other direction.
	And they're being fucking woke, right?
	Yeah, they are being woke for sure.
	Stephen's obviously trying to draw that equivalency, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	But is this money for a legal battle of any kind for her?
	For Shiloh?
	Yeah.
	No, it's just basically she wanted to relocate, so I imagine she bought herself, built herself a new house or something.
	Sure, okay.
	Yeah, so the other one is for a defense fund, right?
	Yes, which is a different thing.
	Totally.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah.
	Those are very different.
	The boy who stabbed someone allegedly, possibly in self-defense, he didn't say he did it.
	This woman said she did and doesn't care that she did.
	That's a huge difference.
	It's a little different.
	Steven is blinded by the fact that one of the people is not white.
	Cool, Steven!
	We'll actually wrap up Pierce's segment with a little bit from Mark that I think is really well said.
	Okay.
	I don't accept Stephen's analysis here of the donations to the campaign.
	Even if he is right that people were donating out of some political reaction to our hypersensitivity as a society, that's the wrong person to do it to.
	Do it to the person that's getting doxxed because they made a mistake 10 years ago.
	Do it to the person who wrapped the N-word on Gold Digger and suddenly has lost their ability to go to college.
	There's all kinds of people who we might say, even if we don't agree fully on the context, who we could say, hey, is a better example of the cause.
	But as you said, Pierce, this is somebody who was using the word in the exact context that we're afraid of, or not afraid of, in the exact context that we're frustrated about, in the exact context that we think it's being used in.
	And so to dump money, almost $800,000 into her coffers, is it ultimately rewards her for using that language.
	Imagine if an arsonist were to set a building on fire and all three of us agreed that I think we probably all agree on that.
	But if we were to then take a million dollars and dump it in their GoFundMe to fund the arsonist legal defense, and now they get off, is that the right way to do it?
	Is that the right call?
	There might be other ways to do it than to fund the person who's done something.
	Mr. Crowder has very politely raised his right hand to speak, which I think is a rare example of good manners on this program.
	So, Stephen, your response?
	Nah, fuck off.
	Yeah, no, fuck that.
	Loser behavior.
	The arson was a bad analogy.
	Yeah, I was going to say that slipped a little bit.
	It did slip.
	But no, it's a really great point that if you truly believe that the context is what the issue is, then support people who, with the context, just made a mistake.
	There's a million things that people do on mistake.
	I mean, there's whole books.
	You remember when that girl got up on stage and she's saying, Kendrick Lamar is like, you've got to sing this song with me.
	And then she, like, sings the N-word in the song, and he's like, wait a minute, what did you just say?
	Do you remember that?
	Actually, yeah, that was a pretty fun little viral video.
	That's, like, first Kendrick album cycle, or his, like, second album or something.
	Yeah.
	It's just, it's like a situation like that where it's like, yeah, I'm just having a blast up here.
	I'm going to say the N-word.
	Imagine Steven up there, just, like, looking around, like, what did I say?
	Yeah, I wrapped the song.
	I'm going to get in a debate with every single audience member here.
	I just don't understand the...
	I won't change the lyrics.
	Exactly.
	I'm an adult.
	These are parental advisory.
	My parents don't have any say on what I listen to now.
	Tipper Gore does it.
	Not my mom.
	No one.
	I don't understand the want or the thought of this is fine if I do it in this context.
	I just don't get that.
	And I have the hardest time trying to wrap my head around it.
	And even if they're like, yeah, don't ruin this college girl's life who said the N-word at the Kendrick Lamar concert, which is, I guess, my example to that example.
	Which I agree with.
	like let's not ruin that girl's life but also that video is on the internet and she's gonna she's like Yeah.
	And you got up on stage and you showed your whole ass.
	Just sort of like the secondhand embarrassment that anyone could feel looking at something like that or just like, what was she fucking thinking doing that?
	I don't know.
	It's like, yeah, I'm caught up in the moment, but also it's like, are you?
	Do you not have like...
	I just don't understand the weave you have to make to say that this is fine in this context, but not in this context.
	It's just not good in any context.
	Well, you don't understand that we're in a post-Rachel.
	Post-Rachel.
	Post-Rachel.
	Is that the song?
	I know that you thought that the sandwich that she eats is gonna be just gray.
	Clap, clap, clap, clap.
	That's the song.
	Yeah.
	But it's actually pastrami with coleslaw and mayonnaise.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Yeah, he doesn't get to say that.
	He doesn't get to say that we're in a post-racial world.
	Ross is still there.
	You're on a break!
	What a fun analogy.
	It's just like when Yeah.
	Oh, they didn't mean to say that.
	Yeah, I did!
	Oh.
	Oh, fuck.
	Yeah.
	Actually, fuck you.
	Don't tell them what I didn't mean, what I did mean.
	Yeah.
	And Stephen, for some reason, wants to defend the people who are indefensible.
	Stephen's doing this because he wants the controversy because it gets him viewers.
	Yeah, it's money.
	That's literally it.
	I think he's also a bad guy, but...
	Because he knows what's in his heart.
	And it's racism.
	He only wants views, I think.
	I truly think that's all that it is.
	That if this didn't get him attention, he wouldn't do it.
	I think he's a piece of shit, but I don't think that...
	I think that what drives him more is views.
	I think that's probably true.
	By the way, Mr. Morgan, you are welcome to come on this show.
	I would very much welcome it, and we'll host you graciously.
	This is the version they ran.
	They pre-tape.
	I love that he, yeah.
	Is this his take on it now?
	Yeah, so this is on the show.
	I think this is actually published on YouTube because he thought they would get the most attention and draw more people to Rumble, the free speech platform.
	With the Rumble Dumb button.
	Well, you can say the N-word, yeah.
	Oh, thank goodness.
	You know, he didn't bleep it out, but he silenced it out.
	I cut that a little bit.
	I dodged a bullet.
	So here's the actual clip and what I actually said.
	We're looking at words that are offensive, a song that is offensive, but one is a boogeyman word.
	We have one noun, a verb, and a noun.
	Okay, we have a noun by itself, contextually.
	That's bad.
	Shouldn't say it, but it's not imbued with any power outside of historical context.
	What a great fucking censor, Byron.
	I didn't want to give him that.
	I didn't want to give him...
	It's a bunch of doody coming out of his mouth.
	Nasty dude.
	I knew it was coming.
	I was like, how's Bargain research?
	You're just away, Byron.
	It's going to let that play, right?
	All right.
	So he literally just placed people on the show to say, hey, I said it.
	He said, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	They didn't play my slur.
	Hold on, my slur.
	I worked really hard on that.
	I got to drop it.
	So he went on YouTube to drop it.
	Clearly also baiting himself for some sort of He wants to be called out for this.
	Of course.
	That's all he wants.
	Yeah, he just wants attention.
	So after this, we reached out here on My Ex and said, Hey, Pierce Morgan, I thought your show was called Uncensored.
	Can you explain why you felt the need to literally censor my words?
	And he responded, You said the N-word, and we don't allow that on our show.
	It's not about censorship, but about respect for black people.
	Okay?
	Here's my problem, Pierce.
	And this is my problem where I said, this is disingenuous.
	Allow me to make my case.
	Pierce Morgan brought on what he said was a self-avowed racist.
	Challenged her to say the N-word repeatedly in front of a black man.
	She didn't.
	Two black men.
	Two black men.
	I believe at least one and a half.
	She didn't.
	And then said, see, that's the thing.
	It's cowardly.
	I went on and used it in context of my own volition, rightfully so, and I stand by it, the point that I was making.
	He challenged me again, asking if I would say it, if Dr. Mark Lamont Hill was on, I said yes, and then it's censored out.
	That, to me, is disingenuous.
	It's a challenge for clicks.
	It's a challenge for clicks, says the man who said.
	Hold up, hold up, hold up.
	Let me slur for clicks.
	Let me slur real quick for clicks.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Pot meat kettle, Jesus Christ.
	Yeah.
	I don't even know what I have to say anymore.
	I've been up for long.
	I don't know.
	This is, I mean, he just wants the controversy.
	That's all he wants.
	That's all he wants.
	He should thank Sam Seder.
	Does he know how embarrassing this is, though?
	To be like, what?
	They didn't play it.
	They didn't play my slur.
	It's disingenuous.
	They cut off my concert before my solo.
	Well, like, if we were playing at, like, a high school talent show.
	And we cussed during our set or something.
	Fuck this high school!
	I don't care!
	These teachers are ass!
	Well, I guess, I mean, I don't know.
	I guess it is interesting that Pierce does draw that line, but it's also his show.
	So I don't think I would get mad at someone.
	Hey, Pierce, you call it uncensored, but you don't show...
	It's like someone saying, like, you can do anything here.
	And they're like, anything?
	Anything?
	What are you trying to do?
	It's like that I think you should leave sketch with the ghosts.
	The curse for a ghost tour.
	Yeah.
	You can do anything you want here.
	Anything?
	Horse cock?
	I'll literally do anything you want.
	Okay.
	What?
	It's like they probably had a conversation with the producer and they're like, so you can say, like, whatever you want.
	Looking around at everything.
	Not a bad place you got here.
	You mind if I kick my shoes off?
	You mind if I put my feet up on the coffee table here?
	What about if I say the N-word?
	Wait, wait, what?
	In five, four, three, going live.
	We actually have lost the ability to have discussions about words, their meaning, in context as adults.
	We have lost that as a society, and that is not a good place to find ourselves.
	There are not throngs of people in this country going, I can't believe that I can't yell the N-word at a black person, but there are a lot of people going, hey, wait a second.
	If I'm addressing something very specific in a quote, I want to make sure, I just don't want to lose my livelihood.
	And so people check out, and you're not having a conversation anymore.
	There are real consequences to this, and that's what we are discussing, and you are going to see a backlash.
	The pendulum swing back the other way, where people just say, you've called me a racist so long, you know what?
	I guess I am.
	I don't have permission to give this out, but I don't think most people would be offended if their race studies professor said the N-word in context in a university.
	I don't think so.
	But I'm not black.
	I don't get to make that decision.
	What is Stephen actually talking about?
	And also, Stephen, we are, you are, everyone is having a conversation about that word.
	Just without saying it.
	We're all talking about the context of it.
	You just want to say it.
	Boldly.
	Let's say you wanted to discuss abuse towards women.
	You can do that without abusing women.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I don't know if Stephen knows that, but you can.
	And Pierce, by the way, his censorship didn't just stop at words.
	And I get it.
	He'll say, hey, you bleep things out in sketches because we edit for the bleep.
	It's funny.
	And if you're watching a clip, maybe on YouTube, but live we have the YouTube dump button.
	So also we're allowed Do not take it away from me.
	I will not have money for my things if I don't have that joke.
	He's also gone as far as to cut out some...
	Some inconvenient sounds, because I know that interruptions take place a lot there, and that's not really the game that I want to play.
	And here's what you...
	Hold on a second.
	You say that every single person who is giving to that is the equivalent of the person yelling the N-word at a five-year-old.
	No, I didn't say that.
	Would we say the same thing?
	No, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	No, I didn't say that.
	That's the interruption, brother.
	I said they're wrong to do it.
	I'll be done in 20 seconds.
	20 seconds.
	Would we also say, then, that the people giving to Anthony, Carmelo Anthony, support the wanton stabbing of white kids who die in their twin brother's arms?
	Now that would seem silly, going, hey, what's happening there?
	Here's the actual...
	Hold on a second.
	You say that every single person who is giving to that is the equivalent of the person yelling the N-word at a five-year-old.
	Would we say the same thing?
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	That's the interruption buzzer.
	Hold on, let me finish my point.
	I'll be done in 20 seconds.
	20 seconds.
	That last little one.
	It's a little childish and stupid.
	Then again, so is editing out a boogeyman word when used in context.
	Yeah, but he didn't edit it out until after.
	You showed up with us.
	It's a little stupid.
	Well, guess what?
	So am I. So, they edited out his buzzer?
	No, I think it was a gate.
	I think there was a noise gate on it.
	My guess would be that Tim and Thuleman had sent the wrong feed.
	That could be, too.
	Yeah.
	Because it wasn't going through the microphone.
	It was going through something else, it seems.
	Can we just edit it to the fart noise?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Interruption, buzzer.
	Wait, what kind of fart do you want?
	That one?
	Oh.
	Uh-oh.
	No, I hate that one.
	All right, so that's the interruption buzzer.
	Certainly not the last time, though.
	Because, I mean, if you go back to 2023, I think you had a similar situation.
	This has happened in the past, and this is why I don't like going on a lot of programs.
	Not because I'm not willing to.
	I do change my mind and talking with people in the street.
	You haven't done that for years.
	You did that three times.
	It's that a lot of people are scoring points, and it's disingenuous.
	Things get doctored a little bit.
	We believed that this has happened in the past.
	The last time I was on Pierce Morgan, I had a bell where I did not interrupt once.
	And I said, I will yield the floor.
	And this was a mechanism to point out whether someone is arguing in good faith.
	It didn't make air.
	You couldn't hear it.
	And he told us that actually it was something to do with the microphone and the gate, which would not apply there.
	It couldn't possibly apply to that buzzer.
	And so I apologized right here on the show.
	I said, okay, my bad.
	Should have given you the benefit of the doubt.
	It's petty.
	I rescind my apology because I now think that there is foul play.
	Here is the bell in question from that last appearance.
	These are the kinds of people who are often being hosted.
	They're not arguing in good faith.
	It's all ad hominem.
	That ding is a little bit of conditioning for you to go, oh, I see what the left is doing.
	You may not agree with it, but it's important.
	Here's the actual clip that didn't make air.
	Is he trying to sabotage her?
	Thank you.
	Again, I'm really going to avoid ad hominem, which is really tough because it seems to be coming from the other side of this panel here.
	Maybe.
	I will note for the record that you have not gone ad hominem.
	And Tim, to be fair, all you've done is abuse Stephen on a personal level.
	I actually would like to rise above that.
	His whole career is all he's done is attack gay and trans people.
	Now he's getting offended.
	They said it was a technical issue.
	It's so much funnier with the bell.
	I don't buy it.
	Was that Tom Green?
	It sounded just like Tom Green.
	Yeah.
	I forget that guy's name.
	This is just Stephen being a dumb baby.
	Yeah.
	Why won't they let me on the show make the dumb noises?
	Yeah, I can't bring props.
	I was going to smash a watermelon and give out clear plastic sheeting.
	Every time that anyone stepped on anything I said or said I wasn't a comedian.
	I have an F slur button.
	It's absurd.
	His behavior is so childish.
	It's so childish.
	He's like a little baby.
	His judgment is also...
	It's just skewed to his dumbass bullshit.
	This is just conditioning.
	I'm doing Pavlov to these Democrats so that they can understand more when they're doing something I dislike, I guess.
	No, Tim Miller showed up to call him an idiot, that's all.
	That was the purpose of Tim Miller on Pierce that week.
	I think Stephen's upset that he can't.
	Stephen wants to change the N-word to, like, a buzzer noise.
	He's upset that Pierce won't let him do that.
	I want people to think that every time they hear the buzzer, they think about the N-word.
	I mean, maybe next time.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I could see that.
	Steven's the little baby.
	Got his dumb ideas.
	Little dumb baby boy.
	We got one more clip.
	Hell yeah.
	No one here is having a debate that you should go out and insult someone using a racial epithet.
	But there has been a conversation going on for a long time in this country.
	Yeah, but I shouldn't lose everything, and I shouldn't be accused of racism if I use a word that you don't like in context to make a point.
	Is that what she was doing?
	I don't think so.
	I think that she was actually just a racist person.
	Did she go on peers and say, "Yeah, I use the N word," so that we could open a dialogue about.
	Yeah, of course there is.
	Okay, I shouldn't have to lose everything because I'd get pissed off and slur at someone.
	And did she lose everything or did she get 800,000 fucking dollars?
	She gained a new spectacular life.
	Oh, that could pay off my entire house and let me buy another.
	Yeah.
	Do you have a give, send, go?
	Yeah, real quick.
	Shrug.club.
	We're trying to buy Dennis a house.
	We're trying to get him retired early.
	I have my hard R video on Shrug.club.com.
	Cool.
	We're selling it there, huh?
	Very good.
	So that's what we're doing behind the, I guess, the paywall at Shrug.club.
	We're trying out slurs.
	Trying out slurs.
	Yeah, we're trying.
	Stephen's got a point.
	We're seeing how they feel in our mouth.
	We're just kind of swishing them around, spitting them out.
	So go check that out.
	This one's got legs.
	Buoy and vino.
	Drink Buoy and vino.
	Yeah, that's about all I can handle this week.
	If you disagree with anything we said, reach out to us.
	Feel free to convince us otherwise.
	Yeah, do we do a good job talking about that we're anti-racist and all that in this episode?
	I think so.
	Do we get it across?
	You shouldn't be using the N-word?
	I think it's fine, yeah.
	Shouldn't be doing it in your car?
	Yeah, I mean...
	The only time I ever do it in my car is when there is a young, like a five-year-old black child outside my car.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because I'm trying to get my bag, dude.
	I'm trying to get a bag of money.
	I turn on college dropout, and every time I hear the N-word, I look at the kid, and I wink at him.
	Oh, God.
	I'm a big hip-hop guy, yeah.
	See, the thing is, though, Dennis, is that you've got a huge lift on your truck.
	I think you gotta come back down from the clouds so that these people can see your mouth moving in traffic.
	That's true, I do.
	It needs to be less ambiguous.
	It does.
	It needs to be very clear.
	Sitting too close to God.
	I don't want to be conicrous, dude.
	That's right.
	Melt them wax wings.
	Say the N-word in someone's face.
	What a piece of shit.
	Thank you.
	You can find us on X at Then Crowder.
	Blue Sky as well.
	Then Crowder.
	LouderThanCrowder.com.
	LouderWithCrowder.net.
	YouTube.
	YouTube.com slash LouderThanCrowder.
	Yeah, we got Meat Boys.
	Can we send Woke YouTube over there?
	I bet we could.
	Jared, can you make that out?
	Yeah, we can figure that out.
	It's been a while since we've done Woke YouTube.
	That's nice.
	Next week we're returning to the show, unfortunately.
	Sorry, Meat.
	Yeah, we have a guest.
	What?
	I'm bringing somebody.
	Oh, cool.
	Stranger?
	Alright.
	I'm bringing Fundip.
	This person's never heard it.
	Check this out.
	Check this out.
	What?
	I thought that this was my friend Crowder's show.
	Well, okay, let's dig in then.
	He's just down to do it.
	What an opportunity.
	Really nice guy.
	Oh, this stuff he's saying is really not good.
	We convince him.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, until then, though, try to find some good in the world, you know, because there's a lot of shit going on.
	Define good!
	I'm Byron.
	I'm Dennis.
	And I'm Jared.
	Take care.

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