Down a man, Byron & Jared explore why the LwC boys have such strong feelings about a car company with little U.S. marketshare, and a misunderstading of an article about women's health, before getting into Steven's justification for mass deportation, and how it's happening no matter what...because. Like what we're doing? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
You made it up and I don't respect it. - Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder with Crowder.
My name's Byron.
While Dennis may still be overseas, I am joined tonight from Occupy, Texas, sipping on the beverage of a man who is all man, who, as he left the shower, people would say, Hi-ya!
What an incredible man.
It's Jared.
Hi!
Got yourself an Arnold Palmer.
Sipping a cold Arnie over here.
Nice.
No canned Arnie.
This is poured by the gods at the Terry's.
Oh, Pete Terry's, the burger joint in Austin, Texas.
Great establishment.
I like it.
I miss it.
Missed you.
And after a break from the Big Ugly, we've returned to what is looking like a new normal.
The only thing worse than prop comedy is propaganda comedy.
Mm-hmm.
Weekday Donald Trump-centered praise.
That's the show, and it's already wearing thin.
With episodes like The Trump Effect, Why the World is Already a Better Place, God-tier-level trolling, Trump's latest picks are driving the left insane.
We are so back!
How Donald Trump is restoring the American culture and tired of winning yet?
Jack Smith drops Trump charges and Mexico bends the knee.
This is our exhausting future.
I signed up for a show about Stephen.
I really didn't want to have to think about Trump this much anymore.
So I tried to pick an episode with Minimal Donald and found us something surprisingly even more annoying.
The Wednesday, November 20th episode of Louder with Crowder.
It's deportation time.
Deportation time.
Deportation time.
Liberals conspire to sabotage Trump's plan.
Kind of a bummer start, huh?
No, you're good.
I thought you were just going to hit us with the first...
I couldn't jump over that whole race is sexist, homophobic, and unfunny skit depicting Nick DiPaolo as the new press secretary, which ends with him suggesting that we should use whips to force undocumented immigrants over the Mexican border, except for the fact that the sound of whips is annoying and that maybe we should develop silent whips.
And this is something that they came up with themselves?
Yeah, it's a funny skit.
They do a lot of whipping over there.
Interesting.
We jump in with the question of the day.
Question.
On a scale from 1 to 10, how tired and haggard do I look today?
Wait, is one or ten good?
Right, yeah.
Which one?
Five, just to be safe.
What do you think?
Let's rate me.
Hot or not?
Not.
I get it.
That's not why you're here.
You're the Vietalbos brothers.
I remember that, hot or not.
That was, you know, Zuckerberg before he went all woke.
But now he's not.
So, you know, trust him.
Hey!
So, Steve went fishing and got nothing from his boys.
How disappointing.
Yeah, just looking like a straight shit.
On what scale ever was it 1 to 10, 1 being the best?
It's just the level of stuff that they're working with.
Zuckerberg didn't create the 2000s website HotOrNot.com.
No.
Yeah, that wasn't him, huh?
No.
That was created in October of 2000 by James Hong and Jim Young, two creepy pals in Silicon Valley-based engineers who had graduated from the University of California, Berkeley.
For young folks, hotornot.com was a place where you could go, I guess...
Tinder would be like the modern equivalent, right?
Yeah, kind of.
It allows users to submit photos of themselves to be rated by other users on a scale of 1 to 10. Of course, 1 being the lowest of this scale.
Oh, yeah.
Never not the lowest.
But as it comes left to right, yeah.
It's kind of a Tinder thing because, you know, you're asking people to rate your attractiveness, and if people find you attractive, they might consider reaching out to you.
I don't know what the infrastructure was for that.
Hot or not, was that like, yeah, is it just like hot supremacy, or is it like, I'm hot, you're hot, why don't we do hot things?
Sure.
Well, you know, some people find other characteristics of people hot, so maybe you might stumble upon some uniquely hot folks, you know?
But are we matching?
Are we mingling?
That's what I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't think that that was the infrastructure.
Tinder took it to the next level, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, in between HotOrNot.com and Tinder, there was somehow someone who showed up both late to the party and even creepier, Zuckerberg.
His site FaceMash was created in 2003 and allowed visitors to compare two students' pictures side by side and vote on who was more attractive.
Yeah.
Oh.
You're putting unwilling folks up against each other, you know?
Sure.
And it's not making, like, a digital baby using their, like, eyes in the other person's mouth, you know?
Which could be cool, yeah.
That's what I'm there for.
And when I say unwitting, I really do mean that.
These photos that Zuckerberg was using on Facemash were from Harvard's online Facebooks, which he had to hack to acquire and used without permission.
Yeah.
Good for him.
Ask for forgiveness.
This is kind of his whole thing.
And look at him now.
Look at him now.
Icky shit.
Gross.
Kind of like Stephen's haggard appearance on today's episode.
Just looking like a whole stretch of bad road, Stephen.
Again!
We haven't seen him in almost a month, Byron.
Well, you may not have.
I've seen a couple.
You've seen him, but I haven't seen him.
I gotta say...
What else is new?
Something is new.
The culture war talking point I'm sure you saw coming with a shocking but not unsurprising story tease.
Well, at some point you're going to have the YouTube dump button.
Jaguar!
Quite a bit.
It's not for the birds.
It's for the f***ers.
Jesus.
Dump that?
So there you go.
That's already.
So you guys, if you're watching on YouTube, you already saw the dump button.
So head on over to Rumble.
It's a weekday show, 10 a.m.
Eastern, including Fridays, if you're a Rumble premium member.
It's 2024 and we just use slurs now.
Yeah, it's just happening.
They don't care.
They love it.
This is like where they're hanging their hat now.
Won't you be my neighbor?
And they're just, you know, taking off the shoes and putting on the F slur.
Also, Mug Club, just so folks know, is now part of this new Rumble thing called Rumble Premium, because it seems like no one was using Mug Club.
That checks out.
Which we knew, yeah.
It's basically like an ad-free version of Rumble, and Mug Clubbers are not enjoying this at all, as it seems to be very broken.
I don't know if it matters anymore, at least to Steven, you know.
I'm sure part of this deal was wrapped into this Rumble Premium thing, you know.
Yeah, I'm a little wondering about just Steven's overall thing right now because I was looking at his latest uploads and he's not doing great.
Like, his numbers seem to be kind of falling off a bit.
Well, that's because of the struggles folks are having with Rumble Premium.
I saw on YouTube he had over 60,000 views on today's episode just a couple hours ago.
I think people are jumping from Rumble back to YouTube.
Right.
They're paying for the...
Okay.
Opposite of the mission that they've been, you know, fighting for the past two and a half years.
Also, no idea what the status of that YouTube lawsuit is.
I mean, we fully lost Susan Wojcicki in this process.
That's how long it's taken for them to make any forward movement on their lawsuit against YouTube.
But that's for another day.
Back to a car company's commercial that serves as nothing more than an excuse to be homophobic and hateful to strategic change, I guess?
So watching Jaguar here create this commercial, I want you to think there was a whole boardroom meeting and everyone said, yeah.
This will help us sell cars.
This will help us sell cars.
Here you go.
Bah!
What the heck?
Wait for us.
We're going to get to the car.
Oh, it's a stone.
Oh.
So, a swing and a miss.
A lot of people would say, of course, this is not the first time Jaguar's screwed up.
People have pointed to this thing.
Actually, it reminds them of some shades of their previously ill-fated campaign, the mascot, Sodomize Me Jaguar, which was more...
They scared.
What?
It's nice to see they're using AI with their overlays now.
Looks like they can remove at least one listing on their stagnant job posting page.
Did you take a peek at this?
No, no, I didn't look at any of the video this week.
Let me paint a picture for you.
They show a jewelry-wearing jaguar.
We're talking necklaces, bracelets, gold, jewels, sitting on a black leather couch.
Penis exposed.
Alright.
But it is pixelated and it's lit by the fluorescent light of a neon sodomize me fixture on the wall.
And, oh yeah, there's a, the jaguar has a ball gag in its mouth.
Okay.
Why?
That's a great question.
Who the fuck cares about this, right?
And so this is like they got mid-journey to do an explicit little thing for them?
Yeah, they did that.
Republican slop.
More of it.
All because this car commercial makes them feel funny.
Okay.
Because the video was ratioed, okay?
It has 30 million views, allegedly, only 6.5 thousand likes, 46 thousand comments.
They were overwhelmingly negative.
So one Twitter user asked, where are the cars?
And they said...
Is this for fashion?
And Jaguar replied, think of this as a declaration of intent.
To do what?
I don't consent.
Declaration of what, though?
I don't understand.
Elon Musk tweeted, do you sell cars?
Apparently not many.
And they responded, like, yes, we would like to talk with you about it sometime over coffee.
So I'm like, they're still, they're going to die on this HIV-riddled hill.
Listen.
Let's not.
Is this car sucking another car off?
Not that I saw.
I'll describe the ad here.
For folks who haven't seen it, it's a 30-second commercial.
It features androgynous models in brightly colored high-fashion outfits.
There's a vivid pink desert scene as the backdrop.
There's pulsing techno, as you heard.
And then slogans pop up on screen that say, As a graphic artist, it's really not my thing.
But that's okay because, Jared, not everything is for me.
Are you sure you're a white male?
I'll have to really think about that hard and get back to you.
That's a pretty good point, huh?
You're convincing me at this point.
You've changed my mind.
Also, Elon needs to cool it if he's having these strong opinions about teasing things without showing them because he did the same thing.
He teased three upcoming vehicles with an image showing mysterious vehicles covered by, I think, tarps or sheets at an annual stockholders meeting.
Sometimes not showing what you're doing creates more interest, and that's the whole point of advertising.
I don't know.
So this is a gay car doing gay cars, and they have a problem with what?
That the car is...
It's kind of gay.
I know why Gerald has a problem with the car.
You can't convert a car.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, is it gas-powered?
Pardon me, pardon me.
Unless it's convertible.
Yeah, they got the top down, seat back, rolling in.
The Cadillac doing a Nest reference.
That's deep.
It's a deep cut.
Cut, cut.
On this branding refresh, Jaguar's chief creative officer, Sir Jerry McGovern, said, This new Jaguar embodies vibrant modernism and is imaginative, daring, and artistic at every level.
So that's kind of what they're aiming for.
And managing director Rodon Glover defended the campaign, stating, If we play in the same way that everybody else does, we'll just get drowned out.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, again, the guy who created basically a car that looks like it's from a video game has any room to talk about this?
Yeah, more specifically a PS1 polygon.
Which has plastic pieces that can be just ripped off by hand.
Yeah, yeah.
You've been watching videos of that lately.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, I saw one here the other day.
Maybe I mentioned this, but I saw one here the other day, and it looked like a cookie sheet that got cleaned in the sink and then dried off.
Sure, with those kind of like grease stains.
Yeah.
We have cedar here, like a lot of cedar.
These cars are never without like a thin layer, and it's just like...
Looks terrible.
Like, a regular car, like, already looks bad with it, but there's something about the Cybertruck that just, like, shows you the cedar.
Like, this is what you're looking at is cedar.
Well, he never considered that, even though they are basically- He lives here!
Well, he just moved there, remember?
Yeah, but he bought a whole city, basically.
Jumping back to the Jaguar folks, they emphasize that this is not necessarily a depiction of their future customers, but rather an attempt to attract a new customer base while not entirely leaving their existing clientele behind.
Because their existing clientele is, like, men, I think mostly women, actually, in their 40s, 50s, and 60s, who I gotta tell you are not...
Not going to be watching this on YouTube, would be my guess.
Right.
So it does no real harm to their existing clientele, but it does open a door.
We definitely know, like, one guy in his, like, at least 50s.
Sure.
Rocking this thing.
I gotta tell you, there's not that many folks who even have Jaguars, which makes me ask the question, why do Stephen and Gerald and the boys give a single shit about this?
In 2022, Jaguar sold only 9,668 cars in the United States.
How many?
9,000?
9,668.
So, like, none.
Well, yeah.
And then the next year, 2023, it went down even further to 8,348 units, with a total market share dropping to 0.05%.
That's kind of nuts.
I guess I'm not surprised.
You don't ever see them.
I don't think you do.
And the ones you do see, they tend to be classic.
Yeah, yeah, like a little older.
I used to work at a spot that had a lot of money going through it, and there was maybe one or two in there, but there were older folks who were driving them, so...
Well, seems like they had the right idea with this whole thing, but I did leave a little comedy in for us, but it didn't come from our seemingly permanent, at this point, third chair, Josh...
None of those people in that commercial would drive a Jaguar.
No.
What you don't understand is all the people in that commercial identify as cars.
Yes, exactly.
Oh, really?
Some of them identify as Jaguars.
Screw you, because that's actually possible, Noodles.
Well, which one of them is the Titan?
That's the intent.
This is where we are.
This is where we are, huh?
This is where we are!
Yeah.
It could happen.
No, it already is happening, because this is where we are.
People are identifying as Jaguar car.
My pronouns are gas guzzler.
Like, what are they even talking about?
And honestly, though, great joke noodles.
The only thing I could think about in hearing this, and this is kind of dark, so apologies, and it could be uniquely me, but...
You know in movies when like murder groups, like people who accidentally kill someone or kill someone in a group together, they always make everyone either touch or stab the body once?
Yeah.
That way they're also like part of this.
I know what you did last summer kind of situation.
I think they wrote that joke for noodles as like an initiation to this dipshittery of hate.
There's no other reason that he would just chime in with that.
Especially after fucking up all the time.
Yeah, the last, like, month he's not had a good time.
I've only, like I said, saw the one episode, but he did a terrible job on it.
He exposes their internal Discord all the time.
We've just been screenshotting it.
Yeah, it's been great.
The idea that, like, anyone would be arguing to be like, no, I identify as automobile is very...
That's not a thing, right?
But if they keep continuing to say that it's a thing, then more people just keep telling us that it's a thing that people are saying.
Oh no, I've heard it.
People are using the...
This is litter boxes again.
They're doing the cat toilets in the regular bathrooms at the schools now.
These kids are cat-coated now.
And also, after this cool joke, it seems that Steven is a little heartbroken that his bigotry in general has lost him a sponsorship with a company that he liked.
Did you hear this?
No.
We had some distillers of a famous American bourbon company on the show, and then afterwards we said, hey, you know, we'd love to talk to you about a sponsorship.
But there was someone who was a brand manager, as queer as a $3 bill, like, no, no, no, we're going in a different direction.
It's American bourbon.
Yeah.
You don't think that people would love an American bourbon company?
It's the people who are in between.
And you see this everywhere in this industry.
You have to understand the cavalcade of, and I mean this, absolute freaks.
They share nothing in common with you, and they are the people who dictate the cultural wing of the left.
Wow.
Absolute.
At least he still has his 7 plus 1 cigar sampler deal.
They're fine with shows that openly use slurs and deny the 2020 election results and also say the vaccine is a poison shot, I guess.
Why would anyone want to work with Stephen?
I think it's more that Stephen wants to work with them because he, you know, that mug club money down the drain after those millions of dollars on our The Tree Is Down website.
Yeah.
I do like that site.
Yeah, that site's fantastic, and I'm glad that they gave whoever gobs of cash to keep that thing running for two days or whatever.
The idea that American bourbon has to be, I don't know, homophobic in order for it to be truly American, it's really odd.
That it shouldn't be a disqualifier for him.
You guys don't have to be it, but I am, and people love my show.
They love to drink whiskey and watch my show.
All of the dads, 50 plus years of all of them.
It's just like a hateful Venn diagram.
A lot of Americans drink bourbon.
Yeah.
And they overwhelmingly elected Trump.
So these two things, this is Crowder math again.
These two things, and I'm going to draw my own conclusion here.
Hate is in because I'm saying the F-slur.
Every day.
Cool.
And people are hearing me do that.
They're not turning away from me en masse.
I mean, people are not watching as much, but...
They are giddy as hell, though.
I mean, they're saying it, too.
They can't say it at work, though.
HR will have their tuchus.
Yeah, but when it happens in my AirPod, a little smirk, you know...
Chubbed up a little bit.
Yeah.
Boink.
But, Jared, this Jaguar flamboyant transition, it all makes sense.
And it makes a lot more sense...
When you listen to Jaguar's director of marketing, a guy named, and I don't know if I'll get his name correct, it's Santino Petrosanti.
Here he is.
This is the person talking about Jaguar without a hint of irony.
And at Jaguar, we're passionate about our people, and we're committed to fostering a diverse, inclusive, and unified culture that is representative not only of the people who use our businesses, but in a society in which we all live.
A culture where our employees can bring their authentic selves to work.
We've established over 15 DEI groups such as Pride who are here tonight.
This is Gabriel and Schaub.
Thank you guys for coming.
Women in engineering and neurodiversity matters.
We've launched major policy revisions such as transitioning at work to drive equity and support for our communities embracing individuality as our superpower.
And we can grab another one.
He goes on to specifically mention the DEI initiatives that they have...
No, he said it.
Oh, he did right there?
You were talking over it.
We've got 12 DEI initiatives, including Pride that is here.
I was too confused by his wardrobe.
Yes, the weird thing is he has a rugged face.
He looks like he could potentially be a fighter.
Like he was a D1 wrestler who fought his gay urges and lost.
He did.
Well, he's the spokesperson by day and sodomize me, Jaguar.
Yes, exactly.
It's a hard life.
It's a long life.
Got another noodle stepping in.
So the clip they're playing Homo sound drops over.
It does feature Santino in a very cool see-through shirt and spangled blazer combo at the 2024 Attitude Awards, which is an annual event organized by Attitude Magazine, the UK's best-selling LGBTQ plus publication.
Which makes the comments about how Jaguar is supporting initiatives like Pride and that their workplace is a safe space for their employees who are transitioning.
It makes it much more relevant.
Yeah, I mean, just, um, we want you to be you because we think that if you're yourself, you will do your best work.
And I don't know...
Like, Stephen's upset with that because this is his best work, is making fun of people who are doing their best work.
And this guy probably makes more money than Stephen does...
Oh, absolutely.
He's very good at his job.
He's been in the industry for a long time.
I guarantee he makes a lot...
I don't know.
It's just like, this guy's mad because he's gay.
That's all he's got here.
He's like a handsome dude who's dressed party sharp.
I mean, he looks great.
Look at everyone else dressed at this thing.
If you go and look at this, they're all dressed like freaks and they all look awesome.
Because it's the Attitude Awards.
Even the people who are dressed down still look...
Oh, Elton John wearing a beautiful suit.
Shut the fuck up, Steven.
Who else is there?
More of the same from this idiot, but...
I don't know.
It's like you get Ben Stiller doing it, and he's doing Zoolander, you know?
This is all worth getting here.
Well, it's just, whenever they omit the context of the clips, they try to paint situations like this as, this was the Jaguar press conference or something, or this was like a shareholders meeting.
This is a night celebrating the LGBTQ community.
And that's why he's discussing those initiatives.
Like, not only Pride, but also, you know, different things.
Like, I think Autism Matters, I think, was the name of the group.
Forgive me if I got that wrong.
Yeah, I think that's right.
It's just, it's so silly.
This is such a dumb critique.
Yeah, these are all, like, people who have more culture in their tiny, gross little pinky toes than Steven has in his entire body.
Yeah, he's got a full wardrobe of Change My Mind t-shirts printed on Gildan blanks in his closet.
Yeah.
Very cool.
While Santino, who's been hustling for a very long time, I found a video from him from 14 years ago where he's test driving the Nissan Leaf, which is one of those early electric or hybrid cars.
I remember it, yeah.
He is just so dedicated to the idea, and that's why he's the perfect person to be spearheading Jaguar's transition into electric vehicles.
It just makes sense.
Imagine being passionate about something.
Well, imagine this, Jared.
The guys then play a poorly overdubbed clip of Optimus Prime transforming and speaking with a lisp.
That rules, man.
That's so funny.
Did they do it themselves or is it more a slot?
Oh, they did it themselves.
This was them.
The room cracks up because of how clever it is, even though it wasn't very well executed.
But then they pull themselves together and they get serious for a minute.
It's one of those things where you watch it, is it silly?
Sure.
But you have to understand, these are the people who are advising the Harris campaign.
These are the people who are in charge of content guidelines on big tech.
It's the same group of people.
CNN can't change.
They can't change.
They can't balance out their programming.
Not because they can't put some talking heads on air, for example, who are more conservative.
It's the wardrobe stylists.
It's the makeup artists.
It's the executives.
It's the cameramen.
It's the interns.
It's the associate producers.
It's the people in charge of marketing CNN. It just cannot be undone.
And these people, and by them I mean these progressive leftists...
You sure about that, Stephen?
That's what you're mentioning?
That's why you lead with wardrobe and makeup?
Yeah, people who are still more talented than he is.
Absolutely, yeah.
It just...
I don't even know what this...
Like, what the fuck is he saying?
He's saying that all these people are exactly the same people.
It doesn't matter that they're not faceless.
They have a face, but it's all the same face.
He called them freaks two clips ago.
I don't know.
I'm not going to let that slide.
Well, I call them freaks, too.
It's fine.
But freaks in, like, a cool way, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Freaks in a cool way.
But, like, in the same sense where it's like...
The other week he was explaining to us that his audience is the brand.
The Corpo America idea of what America is, is who you are intrinsically.
So then now he's saying that because you are the brands and this is what you guys are, you're Walmart.
The freaks over here on the left are people who have individual jobs that are cool and interesting, but they make up one face, and that face is the progressive left, and that's your enemy.
He doesn't see himself as an individual then, right?
He's just sort of like...
Well, he did, and now he has to realize that...
I mean, he won, you know.
He is Walmart.
That's him.
He is the corporation personified.
If you are not the corporation like I am, you are the singular left.
That's what Steve feels.
But what does our everyman feel about the copy-nothing campaign?
At the end of the commercial, it says, copy nothing.
But did you notice when the commercial started, the first thing every one of us thought was gay?
Yes.
Because they copied everything that's gay.
It copied every gay thing.
What is this, a fashion show?
It looks just like one.
Yeah.
You copied so much in this.
You made it look like some dystopian futurism kind of planet with a weird rock.
It looks like Interstellar.
Dude, you're a copycat.
Yes.
Gayest movie.
Go.
Gayest film.
Multiplicity.
Okay.
Well, yeah, the uncut version.
Well, because you know what all the Kevin...
Exactly.
The uncut version.
Wink, wink.
And we know what they were doing.
Interstellar's gay.
And honestly, leave it to a room of five straight white men to say what gay is.
Well, sorry.
Allegedly five straight men.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is a ginger snap in there?
Oh my god.
Holy shit.
Four hours ago, Jaguar just dropped their new video.
Oh.
The Jaguar Type 00 copy nothing in Miami.
Oh.
Wow.
It's an eight minute advertisement displaying.
Oh my god, this is wild.
But it does have Jerry McGovern, the chief creative officer, standing in front of these two cars.
Holy shit.
These are wild.
And one's blue and one's pink.
One's boy and one's girl cars.
So that's kind of nice.
That's really cool, and that's going to help guys like Steve kind of really, like, sort out what all of this, like, two-gender stuff is.
This kind of changes everything, and I imagine that they're going to be talking about this tomorrow.
Or they'll ignore it entirely.
Bold proportions, vibrant colors, and unexpected materials marked the arrival of the type 00. Jesus Christ, this car looks like a penis.
What the?
Yeah, well, okay, great point.
Okay.
All right.
Well, they didn't copy it, so that's good.
No!
This is what a Jaguar is supposed to look like, but this is like the Daft Punk Jaguar.
Yeah.
Wow.
Damn.
All right.
I'm glad that we stumbled upon that.
I was pulling up...
Yeah, you're going to be pulling up all night to get lucky in this thing.
Can you even believe that?
Yeah, right.
Great Daft Punk stuff.
I don't know if I would say that this video copied everything that is gay.
Apparently Josh saw maybe one clip of a fashion show one time and that freaked him out.
Yeah, he saw Elton John talk about how he's like, I'm gonna drive a Jaguar.
No thanks, and nothing's gay.
It is kind of copying the idea behind one ad that comes to mind, which is probably universally known as one of the most...
That too.
But Apple's Think Different campaign from 1997, which also didn't feature any products.
It was initially very controversial, but ultimately extremely successful.
Only one I can remember is when they're the colors and they're dancing with their iPod.
That's a cool commercial, too.
That shit was fucking sick, Byron.
Yeah, no, I completely agree.
Bring back the iPod.
Let's bring it back.
I want the mini, at least.
Not the clip-on version, but the one still has a screen.
No, no, that thing was janky.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give me the screens, yeah.
The Copy Nothing campaign serves as a direction of intent, with Jaguars promising more revelations in the coming months as they attempt to revitalize the brand and inspire new generations of customers.
It seems like maybe their timeline got sped up a little bit with the excitement around this Change Nothing campaign because of the new era officially beginning today.
It's a surprise, but...
Yeah, it seems like this whole thing might actually work out in Jaguar's favor.
The campaign went viral, as Steven said, attracting over 163 million views and 10,000 comments on social media.
So yeah, it got attention, which is exactly what a commercial should be doing.
And they're making that big transition to electric, which I did some research, Jared, might actually mean more to the LGBTQ folks.
That they might be more into a hybrid vehicle?
Yeah, and this would provide an alternative to Musk's Tesla, which sits at only 3% of owners being LGBTQ at this point.
No surprise there.
So what you're saying, Byron, is that there's...
Actual data supporting why they might do something like this?
Kind of.
This is an older study, but in 2005, Harris Initiative found that 51% of LGBTQ consumers considered it worth paying extra for hybrid electric vehicle technology compared to, at the time, 34% of non-LGBTQ folks.
Significant.
Then there's a separate study that shows that gay and bi men are more likely to purchase luxury brands.
Mm-hmm.
So, again, this...
I wonder why that is.
Am I right, third chair?
Well, because they've got better taste.
Oh, okay.
Well, I was thinking it was because...
Okay, great.
So, now Jaguar is aiming for younger people, which, again, I pointed out this...
Also, I wonder why that is, right?
Because old people are dying and they're not buying new cars.
What are you saying about my dad?
Well, your dad's dad.
Sorry, Jared.
I'm Stephen Trowder.
Oh, you're saying Pops Crowder.
Maybe that's why they're all mad about this.
Pops has a jag, and now he's like, well, I got a gay car!
And he doesn't hang out with them anymore.
Yeah.
But, I mean, it seems like their current demo isn't working anymore.
Yeah.
No one's buying Jaguars, or no one was.
So they decided to take a year off, a pivot to electric.
This car is fucking bananas looking.
It's crazy.
It's, like, kind of nuts.
I have the video still rolling, and I keep, like, looking back over at it.
It's just, like, the angle on that thing is nuts.
And then, like, the windshield, it's like, what windshield?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, there's no rear windshield.
It's kind of like something from a Batman movie, like Batman Forever, where things are kind of weird, for sure.
I have no problem with this.
This seems fully strategic, and it seems like it's going to be quite successful, so...
I don't give a shit.
After talking way too much, do you have a final note on that?
No, that car's cool.
You guys should go look at the car.
It's cooler than a Cybertruck.
I don't know if it's much cooler than a Cybertruck, but it's definitely cooler than a Cybertruck.
It's still not really my thing, but it does look cool.
I would never own this or have a friend that did, I guess.
I'd take a ride in one.
I don't know if I'd fit in there.
After talking way too much about a car company that shouldn't matter to them at all...
Let's move on to something else, though, which is very nice.
Because the left is obsessed with...
Oh, Jared, here we go.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, shit.
For all the points, what is the left obsessed with?
Okay, well, we were just talking about the Jaguar.
Sure, of course.
And so maybe...
They're obsessed with sex.
Ah, sex, dude.
I was actually going to say sex.
They're obsessed with the stuff.
Because, I mean, I'm thinking about me, and I was like, that car looks like a fucking dick, if I'm being real.
You did say that.
Yeah, unprompted.
That was a first reaction.
Obsessed.
Sex, but not the normal kind.
But not like sex regular.
They're obsessed with perverse sex.
Oh, I thought you were going to say sex light.
Yes.
No.
Well, me, all sex is light.
Now...
What does that mean?
Let's break this down.
Give me the who wants to be a millionaire music again.
You want millionaire music?
Yeah, let's really think about what this is.
With me, all sex is light.
With me, all sex is light.
Okay.
Okay.
Thin boner.
What does that mean?
I'm thinking thin boner.
I'm thinking...
Let's see.
Light.
Do you want to phone a friend or 50-50?
Can we call Dennis and ask him what he thinks it means?
I don't know.
Maybe he's got an idea.
Hang up on him after he gives us an answer, though.
Let's not...
Okay.
All sex is light.
He's doing it only in the light.
He doesn't want...
Or maybe he's only doing it in the dark.
That seems more of his style, if I'm being honest.
Hmm...
Um...
And it's only...
With him, it's light.
Light.
And...
So maybe he's, like, not fucking?
Okay.
So the bit's not gonna work.
He's not picking up.
I don't know what it means.
I think it's...
He used to be doing sex when he had a wife.
Sure.
And now he's not married, and now he's not doing sex because that would be unchristian of him.
Maybe that's what he is meaning.
And so it's very light on the sex these days for Stephen S. Crowder.
Hey Dennis, you're on the podcast?
Yeah, dude.
We have a question for you.
Stephen Crowder, you know...
You've heard of him?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You say I'm on a podcast show?
Yeah, you're on a program, yes.
Stephen Crowder, just in response to the left being only interested in perverted sex, as opposed to sex light, Stephen responded saying, for me, all sex is light, and we're trying to determine what that means.
What?
I'll repeat all of this again.
It's amazing.
Yeah, it's really, it is confusing.
Obviously the left is only interested in perverted sex, right?
Yeah, totally.
And then Josh responded, as opposed to sex light, like bud light, I guess.
L-I-T-E. Okay.
Yeah.
I probably spelled L-I-T-E, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Steven said, for me, all sex is light, and then moved on.
And we're trying to figure out what...
It got a little pop, too.
And it did get a little pop.
I forgot what he means.
Yeah, it got a little pop from the boys, but we don't know if it was a pity pop or if they understood what he was saying, too.
So I don't know.
Do you have any thoughts?
I think he probably means that he has a tiny canis, so nothing's intense with him.
See, that's the first thing that I thought, too.
That's what Jared thought as well, so that's great.
It could be that, or it could be maybe that he always has the lights off.
That was the other thing.
Oh, great.
Okay, that's what Jared said second as well.
So we're all on the same page, and we're all looking forward to...
We have to choose one answer, though, or else we don't make the million dollars.
I'm looking forward to being back.
Yeah, we're all looking forward to your return.
We'll split it with you.
You did a good job.
Thank you so much for being Jared's Fona friend.
And yeah, enjoy the rest of your trip.
Thanks, dude.
Okay, so he throws his hog on the scale.
It just doesn't weigh that much.
I think we gotta move on.
A. Stephen gets deep.
Final answer.
Lock it in, and I don't know if he won anything.
I do know that Stephen gets deep into something he knows nothing about and is fully unaware of how dense it makes him look.
Daily Mail offered some helpful tips for women to winterize their vaginas.
I'm sorry, what?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How to winter-proof your vagina.
Ha.
Ha is right.
Why are we talking about this?
Hmm.
The show is longer, I noticed.
Is this kind of what they're doing now?
I guess they're padding the episode a little bit by taking a peek at a Daily Mail article about winterizing your vagina, and this is kind of what it says.
It's drinking a lot of water, balancing your diet, and for some reason wearing natural fiber underwear.
I don't understand how any of this winterizes your snatch.
Snatch.
Gross, yeah.
We knew he was going to say that.
I didn't realize he was going to say snatch off the rip.
Because no one usually said that.
Yeah, it's like a real kingpin sort of era word.
You know, and the landlord puts the V to her mouth and goes...
He's a regular Cary Grant.
Yeah, there you go.
Snatch, see?
Well, yeah, he does kind of front load it a little bit with those yada yadas so he could get to the good part, which is shaming women because he doesn't understand or respect.
Because they're wearing cotton underwear.
He doesn't care to consider female genitals.
Now they're different than penises.
The combination of colder temperatures and multiple Christmas parties can actually have a detrimental effect Very cool.
We got ourselves a vagina stink and that's funny.
The Christmas party is because of booze and an inordinate amount of eggnog consumption.
You're already there.
It kind of makes sense to you.
You didn't, you know, jump to the place where he is, because the place where he is, you know, playing a foghorn, stinky cartoon sound effect.
I caught a clip where he and his friends decided to go watch Fatal Army clips in his mom's basement after school.
We just skipped that whole part of the show.
He's just a moron.
He's a child.
He's a chive guy, for sure.
He is a chive guy.
What person would listen to this and say, this is my guy.
This is the kind of stuff I look for on a daily basis to entertain and educate myself.
You know, I don't know who that person is.
I don't really want to know him, I guess.
Well, we know him pretty well at this point.
Okay, so I'm trying to put this together.
This is not two different segments.
This is one segment.
We're talking perverted sex on the left.
This is so funny.
We're talking about his thin dick.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we're saying, what is he trying to say about the Christmas party?
So let me explain this just a little bit.
Christmas party vagina?
So this Daily Mail article, it pulls mostly from a Refinery29 article by Molly Longman with additional comments from Adrian Benjamin, who is a registered nutritionist.
Okay.
She's...
I thought you were going to say sex offender because they're on the left.
Interesting.
Very close.
Adrian's a marketing manager for a probiotic company.
So we know exactly what she's talking about when they discuss why, you know, maybe...
It already makes so much sense to me.
I already know what the rest of this is.
Well, then maybe we should just listen, right?
Let's hear it.
Steven continues to, you know, not just misunderstand women, but the article itself.
What goes on at your Christmas party?
Is there a fishbowl with a bunch of geese in it?
Okay, it's time to play Pin the Frosty in the Vagina!
What?
Do they butt chug eggnogs?
No, they vagina chug it, obviously.
Pin the Frosty?
What does that even mean?
So, we're all on the same page.
We're all thinking Nog.
We're all thinking an inordinate amount.
Just have the consumption and where you're doing it at.
Sure.
That's what got different, huh?
They just think, uh, okay.
Yeah, these are, um, now, and I'm sorry, can you hit the, uh, the...
Thank you.
You know exactly what I need here.
Stop having me hit buttons, though.
Come on now.
Okay, so, alright, here we are.
And so, to finally clear this up, I think it's actually, it's not that he's got a thin, light penis.
It's not that he has to keep the lights on or off.
It has nothing to do with that.
It has legitimately everything to do with the weight of knowledge inside this man's brain about human biology.
Yeah.
The sex is light.
He was throwing us off.
He's talking about human biology.
He wasn't talking about doing sex, because we know that he doesn't do that.
It's D. The answer is D. This dude has no fucking clue what he's talking about.
D for dumbass, yeah.
And it's so strange that he wouldn't jump to diet right away because, you know, as like a UFC style guy, like that's the shit that they care about.
Right.
He's getting the correct macros and not eating processed foods.
That's like the things they're supposed to care about.
But for some reason, when it comes to the pH balance of your body, he just he has no interest in that.
I mean, like, is there is there a world where like this stuff is actually occurring to him, but he's just choosing to be this obtuse about it?
Well, the whole situation is based on a misunderstanding because of his lack of digesting a, I don't know, six-paragraph Daily Mail article.
Yeah.
Refinery29?
This is just cosmopolitan for, like, a modern age.
They're borderline listicles.
They're not scientific papers.
This is a tabloid.
This is ad revenue.
Colder temperatures, I get!
Okay.
Christmas parties, I don't.
No.
I don't understand.
What is it?
Why do they want us not going to Christmas parties?
COVID, there's no more Christmas parties.
It's the vaginas.
They don't want the vaginas going to Christmas parties.
What if I grow my bush out?
Or if she grows her bush out?
What?
I don't think that's enough protection.
Can we go to parties then?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not the expert.
Do you have a bush passport?
It'd be like me saying, you know, you gotta be really careful to, you know, worry about muscle strains on your pecker.
You know, wear supportive underwear.
And of course, be careful when you go fishing.
What?
Really good comparison, but Gerald is right.
Well, not right, necessarily.
Unfortunately, he is the one in this situation that is right.
Oh, they don't want the vaginas to go to the Christmas parties, and it's like, well, you guys probably know the most about that.
Like, your Christmas parties are legitimately just all dudes, right?
Mostly men, yeah.
Yeah, I don't really think there's a lot of...
And they do expose them.
That's the thing, is their penises are literally out during the parties.
Out.
Allegedly.
Here's the point.
They're assuming that most women are whores.
That's the problem with leftist publications.
They're assuming that if you go to Christmas parties, you're going to sleep with a lot of people, which, look, if you want that promotion, it's not the worst idea in the world.
Gross.
Multiple people at a Christmas party.
That's the assumption of this Daily Mail and Refinery29 article.
I didn't see that anywhere.
I didn't even hear the mention of sex in either of the articles.
No, but vagina.
Daily Mail being a leftist publication?
I'm pretty sure that it skews right, but also they're basically an aggregator at this point, and they publish around 2,000 articles a day, so that may be why one called Winterizing Your Vagina got clicks and popped up in their feed.
Yeah, the word.
That's all this is.
It got their attention, but...
SEO, man.
They don't know anything about that because no one fucking is looking for their shit.
No.
Unfortunately, though, this is one situation where Gerald gets it more right than the rest.
I think it's the food, but they don't really lean into that much.
No, that's definitely about sex.
There's no other thing.
Going to Christmas parties?
They could have said going to PTA meetings.
But they didn't because no one's having sex at the PTA meetings.
That came from a nutritionist, so it's definitely about sex.
It's about sex.
Wait, no, it's got to be about diet then.
Look, and this is the thing.
These aren't the issues affecting everyday Americans.
We saw this play out with the election.
For example, you may not be able to afford...
Christmas.
Yeah.
This year.
If your taxes aren't in order.
Weird pivot.
I'm not going to let them get away with this quite yet, though.
The whole thing could have been cleared up if they would have just read the captions below the pictures of the article.
The line that they hooked on was, the combination of colder temperatures and multiple Christmas parties can actually have a detrimental effect on the health of your vagina.
And then there's a picture of a woman.
Looks like she's scratching her vagina.
Wearing a dress from Shutterstock.
Below that, though, there is a section that says there are certain behaviors that become more common around the winter months, which might be causing you some discomfort in your intimate health.
Then there's a stock photo image from Getty of a Christmas party that says Christmas parties are full of drinking alcohol and eating sugary foods.
Benjamin noted that this can dehydrate you and if you're diabetic, raise your risk of developing yeast infections.
That's all it is.
Eating rich, sugary foods might affect the health of your vagina.
Wait, what?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Because they would have said PTA meeting.
I heard what Josh said, and he's right.
They would have talked about something totally different.
I don't think so.
And that this is just arbitrary, and there's nothing...
These guys have to be the fucking stupidest people to have a show.
Like, we're listening, I think, and just getting dumber.
I think it's just making us dumber.
It's like COVID brain.
Also, much like the pointlessness of this entire thing being a weird pivot to an advertisement, which I'll get into in a second...
The rest of this article points out that vaginas function quite well in all seasons.
It's a self-cleaning organ that's home to billions of bacteria that coexist in delicate balance maintaining the pH and health of the area.
Honestly, there's not much concern.
No.
Just take good care of yourself.
Yeah, there's like, I don't know, I, as a non-vagina haver, you know, I'm not really sure what I'm doing to take care of mine, but...
It just says to drink water, and it's okay to eat some cookies.
Sounds like we do kind of the same thing, right?
You just drink a little water and take a shower sometimes.
Yeah.
If your water is working in your house and you could use it.
So to review, the segment was just to say that the left are perverts and that women are sluts.
Yeah, if you're a woman on the left, you're a hound dog for that...
K-K-K-Christmas dick!
And also this weird pivot, though.
Ho, ho, ho!
Well, we shift into a guy in a different costume.
It's Josh acting in a KFC parody where Colonel Slanders is pitching a tax loophole sponsor.
You're never gonna work in this town again.
It's not funny, and then they say that it's...
Well, if you already did break the law, they should be able to help you, too.
Stephen's like, I'm not sure we should be sending criminals to our tax sponsor, but...
That's kind of their energy right now, I guess.
Oy vey, we already lost a whiskey sponsor.
This is the best they got.
And then they take some time to argue that the left creates and spends more time in echo chambers than the right, citing the migration from Twitter to Blue Sky, which I do have to say, we do have a Blue Sky now.
Louder Than Crowder, if you want to follow us there, check it out.
They say that because they can't deny the election or the existence of trans people without being removed from the platform, that Blue Sky is anti-free speech.
It being an hour deep at this point, I think we'll discuss that whole segment at shrug.club, where you can listen to it for free, but we gotta move on from really, really dumb to fairly scary...
It's deportation time.
It's deporting time.
Border jumpers.
Human traffickers.
Drug dealers.
Rapists.
Cartels.
Anchor babies.
We're ready to get them out of here and send them back.
Fact check that, bitch.
Now...
I love that you could tell that he wrote down the line, fact check that bitch.
Yeah, comma.
Kind of like a middle schooler doing a planned swear.
What were we supposed to fact check?
I'm not really sure.
Yeah, there was like, I have to assume, some sort of crossover between Power Rangers music, but we're talking more of like a Captain Planet kind of thing.
We did kind of have that energy.
And, you know, Dennis, he's a big Power Rangers guy.
So shout out to him.
God damn it.
Here we go.
The big serious segment of the night.
So here's the deal.
Most Americans support this, including Hispanic Americans.
But in case you wondered how out of touch the Democrat Party is, because they're radical leftists, they are pledging across the country right now, losing their minds, they are going to resist the will of you.
I do think one thing you're going to find here is that...
You said lady...
Pause!
Go back three frames.
Go back three frames.
And I know I'm being a child.
What is that lady on the left doing?
Is she preparing for a stag film?
That's what I was thinking, too.
It looks like she's trying to seduce her college professor.
Punching up in real time.
He was going to say porno, but he shifted to stag.
Stag film.
Don't want to lose any more whiskey.
Oh my god.
Who else is, uh, some sort of knee, uh, bionic knee pills going to, like, take their sponsorship away from him for saying the word porno?
You can't say porno.
You can't say porno.
So far, I gotta say, he's, at this point, a little bit more perverted than us, and we are on the left, so you're on watch.
Steven.
I've said a lot of dirty things.
That's actually true.
You are more perverted at this point.
But I am also very much on the left.
Yeah.
So maybe he's got something.
Maybe.
But he decides to calm down, and they restart the clip.
Okay, sorry.
Let's restart the clip because I'm a child.
That's distracting.
She's looking at the guy on the right.
That's who she's looking at.
No, she's looking at the girls, two to the right.
What?
Okay, let's play it.
I do think one thing you're going to find here is that all sorts of different networks of military officials are going to question the legality of them being enlisted in this mission.
The idea of calling out the army into the domestic confines of the United States seems uncalled for and may in fact be unconstitutional and illegal.
But what we can do is make sure that we are doing our part to protect our residents in every possible way, that we are not cooperating with those efforts that actually threaten the safety of everyone.
If the Trump administration requests it, would the Massachusetts State Police assist in mass deportations?
No, absolutely not.
I will not tolerate actions that harm Arizonans, that harm our communities, and quite honestly, divert resources from providing real security at our border.
Oh yeah, divert resources.
Hey, what have you done?
What have you done to make Americans more safe?
Let's ask two questions to these leftists.
You couldn't have a more clear example of Monday Morning Quarterback.
What have you done and what are the results?
I mean, there's a lot of things that the Democratic Party has done to make Americans safer in the last four years.
There's the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, which is one of the most significant gun violence prevention reforms in 30 years, so no wonder they're afraid of that.
It expanded and strengthened background checks for firearm purchases under 21.
It clarified definitions of gun sellers and required routine sellers to obtain federal firearm licenses.
It also established federal statutes to define and penalize gun trafficking and straw purchasing and prohibits individuals convicted of violent misdemeanors against dating partners from possessing firearms for five years, which is huge.
Those are all really, really big, important things, but they're all, you know, surrounding guns and they can't have any of that.
Yeah, perverts, dude.
Of course.
Also.
There's also that American Rescue Plan.
You've probably heard more about that.
It provided $10 billion in funding for public safety and violence prevention and allocated $350 million for job training and assistance for formerly incarcerated folks.
Yeah, I also want to point out that Biden put more people in prison than, like, anybody.
Yeah, so they should be really feeling that.
Yeah, they should be, like, stoked.
They're probably making money off of that in some way.
And, like, also, he said he wasn't going to do that.
He said he was going to half the prison population.
Isn't that something?
He keeps his word, though.
He's not going to pardon Hunter.
He would never pardon Hunter Biden, right?
Let his son rot.
But then also, he's trying to release the Arkham Asylum out onto the streets.
No way!
I heard that the Sandman's getting out.
Can you believe this?
Scarecrow?
And he's going to train them.
He's going to give them money for job training.
Yeah, because it's this government, you know, this bureaucracy, all this red tape, and man, I... I did this!
Was that Bane?
I heard they're actually going to give Bane the CEO of Bane Capital.
I thought Bane was part of Burisma.
And also, the American Rescue Plan invested $450 million in public safety technology and equipment, which I don't know how I feel about that.
I don't run a lot of stoplights, but I do want to get away with it if I do every once in a while.
But on the edge here, increased funding for the ATF. They proposed $1.9 billion for the fiscal year 2024, which is a 13.6% increase over the budget of 2023. I don't know how we feel about the ATF, but...
It did aim to strengthen implementation of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act.
I mean, yeah, what are they doing?
Taking tobacco out of the mouths of kids?
That's probably fine.
Yeah, but they also, there's $3.3 billion to combat drug trafficking, which is good, and they allocated $1.2 billion specifically to fight opioid trafficking.
Yeah, so they're not really doing a very good job with that, I guess, huh?
Doesn't really seem like it.
And then they invested $18 million in domestic counter-fentanyl threat targeting teams.
They're doing Ruby Ridge.
Remember that?
Yeah, they're doing Ruby Ridge.
Remember when they were doing Waco?
I don't know if these are good guys, necessarily.
That's what I'm saying, is they've got mixed feelings about the ATF, you know, and how we enforce drugs, really.
I know that we had a fentanyl problem.
It seems like things are getting better, but...
I am one of those lucky people who has not had my inner circle or even outer circle touched by that, so I don't really have the room or space to have an opinion on that, at least not a strong one.
They also implemented the Emergency Federal Law Enforcement Assistance Program, which proposed $10 million for the fiscal year of 2024 to provide federal funding and assistance to state, local, and tribal governments during public safety emergencies, which...
These are all huge, important things that Steve has decided don't exist and are completely irrelevant in terms of, you know, this disastrous, open-border, dangerous country of ours, you know?
Yeah, you would say that, but the freaking Riddler's not dating your ex-wife, so...
That's true.
And that is really hard.
That is a really tough thing because, you know, I don't want to have to solve a damn riddle when I pick up the kids on the weekend.
It sucks.
I work all week.
I don't want to answer questions.
Confusing ones at that.
Stupid haircut.
Spinning a cane.
He's got the question mark suit and his name is not Matthew Lesko.
Yeah.
Talk to me when I can get some of that free government cash, you nerd.
Lesko's got to be a libertarian, right?
Let's see who he voted for.
I wonder if Stephen listens to our show, Jared.
Yeah?
I listen to far more left-leaning podcast shows, news, than I do right-leaning.
I want to know what it is that they're saying.
And the talking point that they have used repeatedly is, well, actually, actually, they did take actions to secure the border, Biden.
And actually, they were very...
Okay, let's just look.
Three million, Donald Trump, 15 to 20 million.
Biden.
So what have they done?
And what are the results?
That's the reason that the majority of Americans, including the voting bloc you tried to buy, Hispanic Americans, through your pandering, support mass deportation.
So I don't want to completely delegitimize his statistics about Biden and how many undocumented folks came across the border during his time.
But there's also this thing that happened during Trump's presidency that, you know, totally shut down the border and may have affected the number.
I think it's a fake pandemic.
COVID-19.
That's the one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I heard of it.
Yeah.
It's fake.
So, I don't know how reliable those numbers are, but it would be silly for me to deny that there was some sort of...
There was a problem with the number, I guess, you know?
I guess, but...
So, he's right.
We can't, you know...
He's listening to these podcasts, he's getting angry all day, he's in his Ford Raptor, and he's just saying to, like, the pod Save America guys about how, like...
Just when he's, like, stuck at the train somewhere in, you know, Dallas, wherever, driving out of Plano, Texas, if you're listening.
Yeah.
He likes the other Jon Favreau more.
The Mandalorian Favreau?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he likes the other Jon...
He likes Jon Lovett more than Jon Lovett, for sure.
Yeah, it stinks!
One of these days we'll have to jump back to his weird advertisement that behind-the-scenes three-parter that he put out in an attempt to either humanize or set his company up to be sold.
Oh!
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We touched on it briefly.
Maybe that's a Christmas present.
We'll do.
I don't know.
But, yeah, Stephen did a day in the life where he shows himself getting up at 4.30 in the morning practicing racist accents in his car, which I imagine he's also listening to left-leaning shows at that point, before going to the gym early.
And he also has interviews with all the staff.
It's a great time.
We should definitely return to that.
But returning to this...
Key fact here, number one, is that Donald Trump does have the authority to mass deport.
Sorry, libertarians.
He does.
The president is the chief law officer responsible for enforcing the laws written by Congress.
He can and said he will declare a national emergency, which would give him the powers to carry out deportations.
You can reference the National Emergency Act of 1976. He said, and again, we said this is the best way to start.
He's going to start with...
Criminal illegals.
And I know what you're thinking.
Everyone here is technically criminal because they broke the law to get here.
Sure, no, he's talking about people who have come here illegally but have also committed serious crimes since then.
It's at least 1.4 million.
To start with.
Right.
Illegals right now with deportation orders.
To start with.
And that's the cue thing.
Mm-hmm.
sending that person back to their country.
I don't see where he thinks that we're defending that.
You know, there was probably a TikTok that he saw from the Daily Mail repost that was saying like, I hate rapists, but I'm okay with undocumented rapists.
Yeah, and I actually want them to live in my neighbor's house.
Not my house, of course, but in my neighbor's house.
They should house them there.
Weird take.
Sort of the...
I hate when I have an idea and I'm like...
I need to write my thought down, but it's too hard to write and also listen to the thing.
Do you need a clip to play while you think?
Will you play...
I guess like...
Maybe it was still the...
Oh my god.
Does that help?
I'm having a hard time getting words out today.
My fucking brain is exhausted.
You're having a tough day.
It's late.
Your water's out for some reason.
He has this whole thought of like...
And actually, I don't even know if this is anything, right?
But, like, he's talking about get rid of these, the people who are here illegally, blah, blah, blah.
And what do we know about people who are here illegally is that most typically they are here on an overstayed visa, right?
Yeah.
We're watching Donald Trump run around with Elon Musk everywhere, right?
And this is somebody who is on an expired visa.
Is this, like, fucking Blue's Clues or Dora?
Like, everyone, we're just at home, like...
Do you know where, like Trump is like, do you know where the illegal immigrant is?
Elon's ducking in a bush or something.
He's right there, it's Elon!
And like everyone, you know, like the child voice is like pointing at the screen and he's like, what's that?
It's the guy who got you your salad!
And then, yeah, Jesus, and he's sending him back to Mexico, and it's like, no, it's Elon the whole time.
Like, how does Steven reconcile with something like that, for instance?
It's the way most people reconcile with it.
That he's, like, pulling his weight?
He's one of the good ones, is what they'll say.
But that's all of them, right?
Yeah, well, that's the problem.
I think that that's the problem in general is people aren't exposed to people who are different than them.
And that's, you know, that's always like, remember, well, I was going to say remember in the early 2000s when people in like South Dakota would finally get a gay friend, but people are, I guess, apparently still experiencing that kind of.
But people in Wyoming were still reeling from Matthew Shepard.
Exactly.
And that's just a couple of hours away.
But you know what I'm saying?
When people who aren't exposed to homosexuality or warrants finally get a gay friend, they're like, oh, he's gay, but he's one of the good ones.
Yeah, he's like, you never hit on me before.
They don't realize that people are just people.
They don't realize it's just nice to be flirted with.
I live in a city of a million plus people.
Metro here is much larger than that.
You just see diversity.
Even coming from a place that was relatively diverse before this, it was like, you just are around people and you're like...
They're all about the same.
They're just out here trying to suck.
They're all trying to fuck.
They're all perverts on the left, you know?
That's true.
We got very far away from the point of this fact, number one, being that Trump can do this under the National Emergencies Act of 1976. Yeah, right, right, right.
Which Congress can pass a joint resolution to terminate a national emergency declaration, but...
I just swallowed a seed.
Wait, what kind of seed?
Lemon.
Oh, no.
Are you going to be okay?
I don't know.
Am I? So basically, in order...
Yes, you'll probably be all right.
You will have a lemon tree in your belly, but it'll be okay.
Well, and that's the problem, is that people are saying this and I don't know what the lies are anymore, you know?
In order for Congress and the House to veto a National Emergency Act declaration that the president makes, it has to be two-thirds in both Congress and the House.
So it's super difficult to do.
Effectively, the president has the power to do whatever he wants, as long as it's declared an emergency declaration.
Cool.
Which they're saying apparently the open border is worthy of an emergency.
So I don't know if that is up for debate or if there is a clear way to determine what exactly would be a valid excuse to do this.
But yeah, I guess that might be the route that we see things going on.
Yeah.
Before that, it wasn't all that controversial to say that, yeah, we need to deport criminals who are here in this country.
Give me an idea, in 1954, Eisenhower deported about 1.3 million illegals under, and we don't need to hit the dump, it's the name, it was Operation Wetback.
Ha ha ha ha!
We used to have a better sense of humor.
We were better at naming things, for sure.
It used to be really easy and more fun for us to be racist, publicly.
Even the president could do it, right?
Operation!
Let's not talk.
You gonna keep that in there?
I, for one, say that just because someone said something in the past that it's fair game now and it's not offensive is not a good excuse, especially when you pair that with stereotypical...
Mexican music.
How you started off the show.
It's just really gross.
But it does highlight how, you know, there's a dark history in the United States as well.
Eisenhower's operation was cruel.
He's dealing with all kinds of aliens.
Yeah, great point.
Right?
Yeah.
And this brings us to, you know, the resistance.
Key fact number two.
It's actually illegal.
For Democrats in their municipalities, their states, to harbor illegal immigrants.
Okay?
Let's be really clear about that, because this may get lost when you're watching.
Like, well, I guess they have the right to do that as a sanctuary city.
And what federal powers does Donald Trump have?
No, no, no.
It's really, really clear.
He does have the authority to do this.
Rightfully so, by the way.
And there's nothing inconsistent about holding that position as a conservative.
And leftist mayors or governors do not actually have the authority to block it.
I don't know if they were saying that they have the authority to.
They just said that they were going to do it.
What are they going to do?
Are they going to start wars in these blue states?
Are there any red states?
Actually, we also don't really agree with this happening here.
Is Wisconsin like, no, we're good.
We don't really want to do that.
This is such a stark white...
Well...
It's a stark example of hypocrisy that I've seen these boys say, like, oh, we don't want the state or even these cities to be able to govern the way that they'd like.
We want the federal government to step in, of course, and arrest all these undocumented immigrants.
Who gives a shit about sanctuary cities, which they should just kind of focus on their own thing, but that's, I guess, not something they're interested in.
Sanctuary cities, by definition, are going to limit their cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
That's the whole point.
This policy can create tension, of course, between local and federal jurisdictions when it comes to undocumented immigrants.
But, yeah, they're not legally required to honest ICE detainer requests.
Courts have ruled that compliance with these detainers is voluntary, not mandatory.
And the Tenth Amendment prevents the federal government from compelling states or local folks to enforce federal immigration laws.
Cities that do honor, though, these requests without a judicial warrant may face lawsuits for violating the Fourth Amendment rights of individuals.
Which was the Fourth Amendment, Jared?
Protecting people from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
But that is kind of like partying hard.
It is.
You're right.
Like cool drugs or something in your pocket, they can't just stop you and find them?
Of course, you always hear the threats from the—I agree with you completely—from the federal government to remove or withhold certain grants from sanctuary jurisdictions.
But, yeah, courts say that that may be illegal.
Some lawmakers have proposed bills that hold sanctuary cities accountable, such as the Sanctuary City Accountability Act—that's an interesting name for exactly what that is—which would allow victims of crimes committed by released undocumented immigrants to sue sanctuary jurisdictions, but that hasn't happened yet.
Proposed legislation like the No Funding for Sanctuary Cities Act would require the Department of Homeland Security to report to Congress on noncompliant jurisdictions.
So, Stephen, to imply that this is cut and dry is absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah, but, I mean, Gerald agrees with him, so...
So sanctuary cities, they can prevent local law enforcement from reporting on immigration status, okay?
They can prevent local law enforcement from cooperating with federal law enforcement.
What they cannot do is prevent federal law enforcement in any sanctuary city or municipality from carrying out immigration policies online.
Period.
In other words, federal law enforcement can grab people and deport them.
The local law enforcement may say, no, no, no, we're not going to be a part of this.
Federal law enforcement absolutely, under orders that come from the United States president, can say, well, we're going to do our job anyway.
So they're going to send federal, I think that they said the National Guard, potentially, into sanctuary cities to just scoop up undocumented folks.
That's their plan.
Yeah, that sounds like it's going to work really great.
Everyone's really going to like that.
It's going to make America so great and good, they're going to wish that it wasn't so great and good after all.
This just reminds me of, I don't know, something happening in Germany, I guess?
I mean, this happened in America.
Well, that's true, and we will talk a little bit about that.
America's no stranger to cages.
Hmm.
Even when the left, they'll lie to you and they'll say, actually, this is a group of people who are twice as law-abiding as natural-born citizens.
It's not true.
They'll cite Cato or whatever it is.
It's not true.
Immigrants as a group.
Sure, tend to commit crimes to less immigrants as a whole.
You actually can't find the numbers on illegal immigrants because they don't tend to answer polls and it's very hard to get an accurate number when people are here off the books illegally.
What you do know is they represent a disproportionate number of inmates in federal prisons.
And I wonder why they're in federal prisons.
Like, what's the reason they would be in federal prisons for?
Hmm.
You could ask them there.
You could be, you could, like, really put them against the wall and be like, listen, bub.
Yeah.
Well, typically it's because of their immigration status.
Oh, yeah.
It's because them, just by being illegal, that would be the reason that they would be in jail, I think.
Most of them are not violent criminals or drug dealers.
Is this not sort of, in a way, a pretty large admission that the police kind of don't do anything?
When you're making this point and you're trying to say that, oh, these guys won't turn themselves in, I don't know.
The idea...
I don't know how to phrase this necessarily, but like for all of that, it just sounds like he is either not understanding that police don't prevent crimes.
And then if there are crimes committed, that they're not doing a very good job of connecting back to who did the crime.
If he's saying that, like, you know, we're talking about crimes beyond overstaying your feelings.
Yeah, like legitimate crimes that are worthy of investigation and trial and potential incarceration.
So then I guess that's where it goes to, is like, if the people who are supposed to be fining these people are unable to do that, then isn't that an admission of either these criminals are just too good?
Or...
The cops aren't doing...
Like, they're not doing enough.
Or they're, like...
And this goes...
I guess the conversation would then flow into, like, underfunding the police.
But then you look at, like, most states don't have this issue.
They're actually overfunded, and they're still not getting anything done.
They're not preventing crime, and they're not...
It seems, you know, I don't know.
The focus is somewhere else.
I mean, it's a larger conversation about, you know, how policing should look.
In reality, and where those kinds of resources should be, you know, focused.
I mean, I know this is separate federal versus local, but, like, I don't think we need more DEA agents.
I don't think that's going to make anyone safer.
We don't need more ICE agents.
Yeah, like, I'm certain that it won't.
It's just sort of like, like, what does he expect to happen here?
Just this whole thing is that it's like, you want to push these people out because you're a fucking idiot.
In practice, how does this actually work?
I don't know.
He's excited by this, the prospect of getting rid of all of these people.
I guess it's that.
In practice, in his head, how does this look?
Well, he said that they want to get rid of the criminals to start with, but they both, everyone in that room fully supports mass deportation.
Of all undocumented immigrants in the United States.
I don't know why they're sugarcoating this.
Yeah, yeah.
To me, it just feels very like...
And when you say that out loud, Gerald tries to couch it by saying, if there was illegal Canadians or illegal Swedish people in the United States, I'd want them gone too.
But that's not the case.
Yeah, then why aren't you talking about Elon Musk?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, why aren't you just saying this outright?
Like, yeah, he can't be doing this.
Like, it's just, it's for the people I like, but not for the people that you like.
There's no radar.
There's no morality here.
There's no, like, there's nothing.
It's just simply, like, if I disagree with you, you shouldn't be here.
It's so sweeping that it's like it doesn't even matter if you're, like, an actual citizen.
Yeah.
There's no delineation of whether or not they're, like, illegal, here illegally, or here illegally.
Yeah, I mean, look at the Haitian migrants in Ohio.
They're just saying they're not legal, even though they are.
Yeah.
So it doesn't matter.
It's just people who are different culturally than them.
Which includes us.
It kind of does.
Yeah, we might be at the later end of this whole thing.
Well, exactly.
And there's several hours of us talking negatively or whatever about...
Maybe if they had an example...
Maybe that would change my mind.
Give you an example.
In 2018, there was a Massachusetts judge.
This person was charged with helping an illegal alien escape ICE. This illegal alien was in court over drug charges.
The judge knew that ICE was waiting for the illegal alien to leave the courtroom.
Likely to deport him.
The judge let the illegal go through the basement to escape out the back door.
What?
So this judge, knowing that this person was enough of a problem that ICE was saying, okay, this person has to go, helped an illegal alien escape.
By the way, I don't know if you know this, really tough to track, said illegal alien afterward.
No idea if he went on to harm anybody else.
We can't possibly know.
The Biden administration, right, the DOJ, completely dropped charges against the judge.
Oh, that's criminal.
Oh, really?
Wow.
Also, it's bullshit.
So, this is Judge Shelley Joseph.
It was her situation.
On March 30th, 2018, when—who was president then?
I can't remember.
Newton police arrested Jose Medina Perez on charges of narcotics possessions.
It was a low-level drug charge.
Wait, when was this?
You said 2018?
2018, yeah.
I don't know.
COVID fog.
Don't remember.
Narcotics position.
Low-level drug offense.
After arrest, ICE issues a federal immigration detainer and warrant for removal of Medina Perez.
Because Medina Perez had a bit of a history.
So Jose Medina Perez, 2003, was deported from the U.S. for the first time.
2007 deported a second time kept coming over but after 2007 they issued him a federal order prohibiting him from entering the u.s until 2027 april 2nd 2018 at 9 30 in the morning an ice officer arrived at newton district court to take custody of jose and at 2 48
jose's hearing begins with judge joseph presiding and during the hearing the judge ordered the ice officer to leave the courtroom and wait in the lobby she then held a sidebar and ordered the court clerk to turn off an audio recorder for 52 seconds at 301 the court officer wesley mcgregor used his security access to release jose through the rear sally port exits on april 19th
the ice officers ended up arresting jose medina perez on his immigration violation so when stephen says that after he got released no one knew where he went It would be really hard to track him down.
He got arrested less than two weeks later.
Because they knew where he was at?
Well, I mean, they found him.
He was still in the town, I guess.
And then May 2018, an immigration judge granted Jose's bond on his immigration charges, and he's released from ICE custody in order to appear for a scheduled immigration hearing July 2019. I mean, the wild thing, though, is Judge Joseph got in a lot of trouble for this.
There's a lawsuit against them.
But eventually, good news, after being indicted on multiple charges, including conspiracy to obstruct justice and obstruction of a federal proceeding...
September of 2022, all the charges were dropped, as long as Judge Joseph agreed to refer herself to the Massachusetts Commission of Judicial Conduct, and that's kind of where the story ends.
So basically, this judge released Jose because, although they claim his fingerprints matched the person who was not supposed to be in the country, the image didn't match, so she let him out.
I don't know what exactly she was thinking, but...
Yeah, I mean, if there's any amount of doubt, you would hope that they would try to protect the people who are fucking...
She did purposefully avoid the ICE official and let this person out the back door.
Yeah, but ICE sucks and fucking shit.
Get him out of here.
I agree.
And for Steven to imply that this person was never captured after that, even though they were captured less than two weeks later.
Also, this person was just a low-level drug user.
Probably got caught with weed when they got pulled over.
Who fucking cares?
Who cares?
But the way he frames it, it's a huge deal.
Everything's a big deal because everyone is trying to get one over on him and America.
And now that Trump is winning, they're going to have to meet their maker really now.
There's no delineation.
Even to the people that think that there will be.
Sorry, no, that's not what you voted for.
Gerald is not as calm as us following these types of situations.
These people are actively working against the will of the American people.
And by the way, research, do me a favor.
I just saw this scroll across.
In that bill that was signed by all 13, 13-0 in Los Angeles to kind of do that, they actually tagged on sanctuary status for LGBTQ persons, people, whatever, in schools as well as just in the city in Los Angeles.
Was that cover?
Was that like, hey, probably not going to get it passed if it's just Sanctuary City for people who shouldn't be here illegally.
Let's tag on the LGBTQ community and schools and everything else to make sure that it's passed.
I don't think so.
The city that's named in Spanish, I don't think that's a cover.
No, no, no.
I know, but I mean, why would you do that?
Why would you tag that on to things that seem kind of unrelated?
Because they're not necessarily unrelated.
These are all people who are under attack, Gerald, but it's funny that the attacker isn't willing to admit that that might be the reason that this city ordinance went through 13-0, signed in by the LA City Council.
He's a dumb guy.
Yeah...
I'm just trying to follow their logic here, and there's none, and it's hard to comment on because it's just like, I don't know, it lost me, man.
This shit doesn't fucking make any sense because it's not hinging on anything.
Well, Gerald, he's like a gay detective.
Anytime he sees mention of the LGBTQ, he starts his conspiracy brain a spin-in.
It couldn't be that these two communities being under attack would need some support and have that clear support from the Los Angeles.
They have support and his name's Gerald Morgan.
Come see me.
My number is 555. If you want to change.
No, I don't want to change.
I'm just fine.
No go gay.
He's a dumb man.
It's kind of his whole thing, huh?
Yeah.
He's Barney Five and he doesn't know it, I guess.
Here's another one, too, and I want to be...
This is a key fact three here because there's a lot of discussion around this and a lot of people aren't necessarily clear on this.
President Donald Trump can actually go a little bit further here and end...
Outright birthright citizenship.
Now, before we show his clip, I want to be clear about this because it's kind of like one of those no-cash-bail things where people don't fully understand.
What we're talking about with birthright citizenship is the idea that anyone born on American soil is automatically a United States citizen, regardless of the immigration status of their parents.
This, of course, manifests itself in anchor babies, where they'll have a child here, illegal aliens, to try and gain status, or there's even something called birth tourism.
This is how the system gets gamed, where you have foreign nationals go, oh, okay, she's eight and a half months pregnant.
Let's get to the United States.
It could be a visa or it could just be touching soil here.
Go, oh, they're born here.
So it's their equivalent of wet foot, dry foot, kind of, only it's actually not constitutional.
We'll get into that.
And Donald Trump does have the authority to end this interpretation of birthright citizenship, which he said he would do.
Here's the video.
As part of my plan to secure the border on day one, In my new term in office, I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law, going forward, the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship.
These are the really dark, stark beliefs of Stephen Crowder.
He, you know, going back to the Rush Limbaugh era, still believes in birth tourism and uses the term anchor babies without hesitation.
And he continues.
Okay, now that we've explained it, let me sort of deconstruct this claim from the left.
Their claim...
Is that birthright citizenship as we know it and as it has been practiced, like we said, baby tourism, anchor babies, all of this.
That it's protected by the Constitution and the 14th Amendment.
That is what the left wants you to believe.
Birthright citizenship guarantees that people born in the U.S. receive citizenship, regardless of the parent's nationality.
It was adopted after the Civil War to secure citizenship for former slaves.
The Supreme Court made it confirmed the interpretation of the 14th Amendment that birthright citizenship is unequivocal in the 1898 Wong Kim Ark case.
Was that Dan Bongino in black and white?
In 1898?
So, here's the truth.
No, it's not unequivocal.
That's a misstatement.
This is a complete misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment.
Let me read this for you.
Section 1 of the 14th Amendment makes it pretty clear.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States.
So, this is some real fringe interpretation of the 14th Amendment that Stephen is going to be highlighting here in a very sovereign citizen style, arguing the definition of subject to the jurisdiction.
Just like, this is Crowder math.
Give this man the keys, let him, you know, let him fucking pump them gas.
I'm going to say pump the brakes.
No.
Pump the gas.
Drive through as fast as you can.
Break next speed.
Change the definition.
Get everyone on board.
Let's hear it.
I mean, Senator Jacob Howard, one of the principal drafters of the 14th Amendment, apparently had a different idea of what exactly he meant.
According to the Michigan Senator, Jacob Howard, who drafted the 14th Amendment, he said this meant that citizenship should not be extended to people who share any loyalty to another country.
It's even broader.
Oh, so when you see one of those flags on a car or a bedroom window.
In other words, if you are not subject to the jurisdiction here in the United States, no, you are not a citizen.
And you don't simply automatically get citizenship because you happen to come here when your living girlfriend was eight and a half months pregnant.
Great.
So, this Jacob Howard guy, what is allegiance, you know?
What is total allegiance?
And that wasn't stated in the 14th Amendment, it was just an opinion of Jacob Howard, who was a drafter of this.
This is just, it's, what's the Tom Hanks action drama based on a book series?
Why are we digging through interpretations?
It's called Gump and Company, and they go to space with a monkey.
Right.
It's the second in the Forrest Gump franchise.
That's right.
This whole argument about subject to the jurisdiction of not owing allegiance to anyone else and being subject to complete jurisdiction in the United States.
I mean, technically, when someone becomes a citizen in the United States, that's kind of what changes, right?
They are in the complete jurisdiction in the United States if they're citizens.
That was my interpretation of becoming an American citizen.
I think this is discussed in the 1966 Civil Rights Act, where they, I mean, this guy, John Bingham, he's often referred to the father of the 14th Amendment.
He said, every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen.
Not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.
Right.
Everyone comes from somewhere, right?
Yeah.
At what point, where do we draw this line of allegiance?
What does that look like?
And I guess this is why he's so easily able to argue this, but I don't know how you can determine citizenship if you're discussing allegiance the way that he's implied.
It's purely the color of your skin.
This is...
Exactly.
That's it.
The idea of Josh pointing out you can't have a Mexican flag on your car and still have allegiance to the United States and be a citizen.
What about Stephen's Ford Raptors just head to toe covered in Israeli flags?
Yeah, isn't this like freedom of speech stuff?
It's like you can't have the rights until you become a citizen, but what is this balance?
Yeah, I guess you gotta get a Ford, like the boys, and you gotta...
Sure.
Levi's.
I really don't know what...
This is, like I was just saying, it's hard for me to follow what they're talking about because it's not...
It doesn't...
Sorry, can you hear people?
Can you hear that?
No, do you have folks outside your house?
Yeah, they're like fucking yelling outside my fucking house.
Like literally outside my fucking door.
subject to jurisdiction is defined as not owing allegiance to anybody else and being subject to the complete jurisdiction in the united states which suggests that the phrase subject to the jurisdiction was meant to exclude only those who had diplomatic immunity or were members of sovereign native american tribes that's that's where we're at Quit trying to re-litigate this, Steve, to fit your racist beliefs.
Yeah, this is all it is.
They just won't come out and say that they're just fucking racist, and that if you're dark-skinned or whatever, you shouldn't fucking be here.
Yeah.
And you can't have any culture.
That's for damn sure.
That's what makes it so hard to follow.
It's because they're alleviating themselves from having to use certain words.
So then actually their complaints don't make any fucking sense because they're not based on anything.
They're not hinged on anything.
But if they were just saying that we're racist and this is what we think, then I would understand what they're saying because it's like...
You know...
I took a bite of a cookie.
I don't know why.
I just needed something.
Yeah, your blood sugar is low.
And your vagina is at risk.
Super risky.
Gerald points out, it's funny, just how illogical his fears of birth tourism are.
It would make no sense, like, logically.
Yes.
People could just fly in and do it all the time.
So what you have is a fortune.
No, I know.
I'm saying they shouldn't be able to.
So I want to make sure that you guys really understand.
Because this is something the left is trying...
They'll just throw out the term birthright citizenship, right?
Well, he wants to end birthright citizenship.
That's as American as apple pie.
First off...
No, and American apple pie isn't all that American.
We kind of co-opted it, but that's beside the point.
You are incorrect.
I just read the 14th Amendment, okay?
I told you about the man who drafted the 14th Amendment, who clarified it, and we have another truth, the Supreme Court rulings on this issue.
Really, there's only been one major ruling, and it ruled...
Exactly how we have described this to you.
It's the United States versus Wong Kim Ark.
The court actually ruled that a child born in the United States of parents of Chinese descent, but have a permanent domicile and resident in the United States, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, become at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
To be clear, this child's parents were legal residents, which granted citizenship according to the 14th Amendment.
What that means is, again, you have to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
If you are not and you have a child, it doesn't change it.
You're not just all citizens.
Right.
Not exactly.
They were not citizens.
They were residing inside of the United States.
It was a different time.
Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't eligible for citizenship.
There was significant legal restrictions about that.
They were actually able to live and work in the United States for a time.
This is back in the 1800s.
Their arrival happened before a bunch of very, very strict exclusion laws, including the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which restricted Chinese immigration and prohibited Chinese laborers from entering the country.
But they were considered merchants, not laborers, but most certainly not citizens.
It was a time before we had solidified rules about...
I guess it was just looser rules or different rules around immigration.
So for him to cite this as...
Or like how we were using labor, essentially.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all it was viewed as.
You know what I mean?
When you think about that specifically, it's like, what were those people here for?
Were they planning on staying long-term?
I guess, in my mind, they have every right to because of how much fucking work that they put in.
A thousand percent.
The situation, I guess I should explain it a little bit.
Wong Kim Ark was a Chinese-American who was born in San Francisco to what they're saying in this was immigrant parents, which, again, that's not clear.
in 1873 but in 1895 uh wong was denied entry back into the united states after returning from china because of what i what i mentioned the chinese exclusion act of 1882 that happened in the time between so the modern concept of illegal immigrants didn't exist at this time for steven to imply differently again being very very misleading
it's just another weird edge case that he's using to take advantage of his listeners uh lack of knowledge compass well Well, and moral compass.
But yeah, I didn't know anything about the Wong Kim Ark case.
So I'm assuming, and maybe I'm wrong in doing that, that a handful of folks don't know that.
So when they hear Stephen cite this as an example that further cements his gross outlook on immigration, it's frustrating, and it's kind of disrespectful to his audience.
They don't know the fucking difference.
And they don't want to know.
It's disrespectful to us.
Sure, yeah.
This segment of his audience.
We are being disrespectful to his audience by trying to teach them something.
Yeah.
I don't want to know that!
No, you dumbasses.
Oh, buddy.
For some reason, Americans have just accepted this idea that, oh, if you're born in the United States, then everyone gets a pass.
Right.
If people have literally been here for four days and happened to drop a baby on American soil, that's absurd.
And it's not how it works.
It's not how it works in countries across the globe throughout human history.
And it's not how it works here currently either.
Everybody doesn't get a pass just because they come over here and drop a baby out.
The Trump administration already created a rule implemented by the U.S. State Department starting January 24th of 2020 that explicitly prohibits issuing B-1 and B-2 visas to foreign nationals whose primary purpose of travel is to give birth in the United States to secure U.S. citizenship for their child.
It applies to temporary visitor visas for business or pleasure, and applicants must provide evidence to overcome the presumption that they came over here to Have their children become citizens, therefore themselves become citizens.
And officers have discretion when it comes to granting or denying visas if birth tourism is suspected.
So no one is doing what Gerald is thinking they're doing.
I shouldn't say no one.
It's a small number.
It's between, I mean, the number I see here is between 2,000 and 33,000 annual births defined in the United States as birth tourism births.
That number's from 2016, between 2016 and 2017, but again, a lot of people believe that's an overestimate.
A more conservative analysis suggests that it could be, like I said, 2,000 annually, which is just not that big of a deal.
Yeah, it's not really anything.
The amount of times that you say Anchor Baby doesn't match up with the reality of birth tourism.
But again, we have rules in place that if it appears that someone's coming over here just to do that, then they're not given visas.
I just don't know what they want.
It's a fear of a black planet, man.
That's all this is.
It's just more of the same old story.
There's nothing to it.
It's really actually very boring, and it's like trying to find something interesting to say about this same thing that they are just on again.
They have fucking two modes, and if it's not like you don't look like us, it's that you don't sound like us.
I mean, what other senses are they going to use, though?
They're going to use them all, right?
No, especially not the sixth sense, especially.
You've got to unlock your third eye for that, and these guys can't see fucking beyond their goddamn nose anyway.
Especially living in Dallas, Texas, where there's a lot of diversity there, but there's also a lot of money there, so I guess it's probably...
Trying to fit in where he wants to...
What's the saying?
Dress for the job you want, you know, kind of idea.
I don't know.
You would just think that because you're around more people in a relatively liberal city like Dallas is, not that it's like really fucking liberal, but there's enough there to where, like, you know, if you outlawed gay marriage, there would be people, you know, protesting that.
Pretty upset about it, yeah.
Yeah, like, it's just...
I really don't understand, like, if...
They're truly just this insular with their everyday lives.
We know that Steven is like a fraidy cat.
He has to push out of the exit at the cosplay convention when the anime characters look too scary.
Not for the sake of his children.
It's really for the sake of him.
Someone asks him what time it is or if he dropped something that he actually didn't.
Did Dropy think they're going to knock out Gaiman?
Yeah, yeah.
Hit him with a trailer hitch or something.
It's pathetic, honestly.
And to hear just more of the same thing, they really can't move the needle on their own narrative.
They can't go beyond the thing that we've heard already.
It's just...
At a point, I feel like, and we're seeing this with the slight decline of probably viewership and listenership to these types of shows, maybe the audience is getting sick of just hearing the same thing.
A, B, A, B. Binary.
1, 0, 1, 0. It's just getting even more like that with the Trump stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
What are you preserving by talking about it?
And our viewership is going up, I should say.
Listenership.
And I do want to say thank you so much, everyone.
And keep telling your buddies.
Keep sharing our show with your friends.
It's nice.
But we have one last clip tonight.
Think about this.
The left is not...
I've said this before.
They're not just fighting for anchor babies right now.
They're fighting for the first 1.3 million...
Illegals who are scheduled to be deported who are criminals.
They've chosen to fight right now.
Gavin Newsom, Los Angeles City Council, they didn't say, all right, let's get rid of the criminals, let's do that first, and then we'll talk about the anchor babies.
No.
They have chosen to make the stand, you will not deport a violent felon from our municipality.
What does that tell you?
Why?
It begs the question, why?
And how do you find common ground with that kind of evil?
Shut the fuck up, asshole.
Yeah, that is some really dumb fucking stuff.
You made your whole show and that was his fucking crowning moment?
Yeah, he thinks he stuck the landing, but he's not even on the mat.
He broke his leg and he pissed his pants.
The idea that we should deport the criminals and then have a conversation about deportation is horseshit.
Because we know what they want.
Why should we give an inch?
I'm just so distracted over here, man.
Are people trying to break into your house?
I can't tell if they're fucking standing outside my door just talking.
It's weird because it's echoing inside my headphones and it makes it sound like it's much louder than it is.
And I'm like...
Well, that's not good.
I know that if it was about a centrist position on abortion, they wouldn't want to give in to any of that as well.
No, and I don't know, man.
I'm like...
I can't fucking, like, think words.
I'm like...
It's good because that's about all I can handle for this week.
If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
It's one o'clock.
I can't think anymore.
Yeah.
I'm, like, done.
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We have a couple new reviews, Jared.
I'll wake up for that.
Nice folks.
Took the time to show their appreciation after listening to our program.
People like T. Rill.
Ridiculous and boring.
One star.
Trying to make money on the Louder with Crowder name, and it fail greatly.
Don't even bother.
Maybe they should try and be more original?
An interesting review there.
That rules.
Hey man, we are actually making some money, you little asshole.
Not a lot, but a little.
I don't know, but we can buy some candy or gum.
You know?
We could share some gum.
If we, you know what?
Change that M to an N. Give me a couple months.
Uh, also...
Let's get a pistol.
Let's use our Patreon money.
I'm curious to know where this is going.
We're gonna buy a pistol, and we're gonna get it laser engraved.
Ah, now we're talking...
Put it on the wall behind us.
Yeah, exactly.
In the studio here.
We have another review from LondonX saying, Amazing.
Five stars.
Thank you, Byron, Jared, and Dennis for journeying into the biohazard that is Steve the Big Ugly Crap...
Oh, pardon me.
The Big Ugly Chowder.
Mmm.
You heard us.
So that I don't have to.
A real listener.
Wow.
Really appreciate you.
Yeah, it means a lot.
Thanks a lot.
Next week, our boy Dennis is back.
And then we prepare for the holiday season.
We're going to be giving you some gifts of content.
I have a feeling there might be a White Walsh coming.
There could be an exploration into a third chair.
Who knows what's going to happen.
Until then, though, you can find us on Blue Sky.
Yeah.
I believe it's Dan Crowder.
I don't know why earlier in the show I said Louder Than Crowder, but it might be either one.
