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June 27, 2024 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 34: CULTURAL DISCRIMINATION MONTH (JUNE 13th & 20th, 2024)

After a few weeks of "vacation", and prop shopping, the LWC Boys have reconvened to bring us a very lazy yearly event. The 9th annual Cultural Appropriation Month (two weeks). A celebration of stereotypes, bigotry, and ignorance. They may be in costume, but their masks are certainly off. See what we're talking about at http://twitter.com/thancrowder Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	This is an AudioWool original.
	What kind of accent is that?
	I don't know.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder With Crowder.
	My name's Byron.
	Got my hood up still, sorry.
	It's causing a lot of noise in my headphones.
	I'm joined tonight by Jared.
	Yes sir, you are.
	Dennis is here too.
	He's Southern over there.
	Still ticks.
	I'm very Western.
	Okay.
	And Stephen Crowder.
	A guy that consistently says and does a lot of blatantly dumb hateful things.
	Keyword today, consistently.
	Because for the last nine years, although he's increasingly been putting less and less effort into it, which will become very clear in the next hour or so, Louder With Crowder has given us, the viewers and listeners of the program, Cultural Appropriation Month.
	The fuck is that?
	It's June, which marks Louder with Crowder's annual Cultural Appropriation Month.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Hey, I'm doing great, brother.
	Buenos dias.
	Where we take you on a journey to explore all of the wonderful, distinct, and mysterious cultures our great planet has to offer.
	Glad to be with you, man.
	I think that last one was Californian, because they got kind of desperate after a while.
	Yeah, doing an Austrian Californian.
	Yeah, well, I mean that was just a selection, a smattering of all the things.
	I liked when he just said Buenos Dias, just Spanish, just white guy saying it.
	Honestly, it's a very visual show, so you'll have to, you know, take a peek.
	I'll have to imagine him being a bigot.
	Yeah.
	We're just kind of jumping through this.
	I set out to conquer Cultural Appropriation Month and found myself quite discouraged and a little depressed if I'm honest.
	Yeah.
	Because appropriation is appreciation.
	Is that what they say?
	That's what they say.
	It's a dumb sentence.
	Obviously, it's just an opportunity for you, Steven, to do extended accents and stereotypes.
	Yeah.
	I don't usually highlight the comedy stylings of these guys, but we're going to be going through some of their bits tonight.
	Great.
	With their bits in quotes.
	Yeah.
	Attempts at bits.
	But before we get into the real dark, dumb stuff, it was Father's Day recently.
	Stephen went a little bit hard over that weekend.
	Oh, I bet.
	So I want to... What?
	What, just because he's settled his custody issues?
	Yeah, does he have custody of his kids?
	I'm unsure of the resolution from that.
	I bet he has a rough time thinking about the custody situation regardless.
	Well, he might cope in a certain kind of way.
	Maybe.
	Crowder.
	Stop it.
	Wait, what?
	I ate so much yesterday and nothing fits today.
	Like, you know, I've always joked with people, like, I feel bloated.
	No, I put myself on the scale.
	It's like a solid six pounds heavier.
	Wow!
	So just begging for his employees to say he looks good.
	Yeah, Gerald was like, stop it.
	No.
	You look great.
	You're perfect just the way you are.
	Gerald dressed as Xerxes.
	Well, no, no, not yet.
	This is not quite Cultural Appropriation Month, but you are right.
	He did do that and we'll talk about it.
	I loved how he was like, Stephen, don't.
	I want to say before, yeah, go to at Dan Crowder now because there's gonna be pictures of Cultural Appropriation Month that I pulled images of these guys as well.
	Great.
	You know, Steven, he may have indulged a little bit over the weekend.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I ate a lot.
	You ate your fill.
	I did.
	And five other pieces.
	It was like five, six thousand calories.
	What?
	It was a Philly cheesesteak.
	That's breakfast for me.
	Extra cheese.
	Add an egg on top of it.
	Add grilled onions.
	Oh boy.
	Also a chili cheeseburger with that.
	Fries.
	Oreo milkshake.
	Your toilet was a crime scene this morning.
	Nutella, Nutter Butter milkshake.
	Two milkshakes?
	Then Chicken Truffle Alfredo.
	I'm starving!
	Oh, jeez.
	Box of cookies.
	Pine of ice cream.
	What happened?
	You're over 5,000.
	Jesus.
	Who hurt you?
	But I drank low-fat milk with the cookies.
	No idea.
	Oh, yeah, that'll work.
	It was diet Coke.
	And a diet Coke, yeah.
	Right at the end.
	Add some extra insulin if you want some.
	I also had a traditional Mexican Coke with sugar, which I never... I was like, you know what?
	Why not?
	Screw it, the day's already ruined.
	Oh, you know, it was a good Father's Day.
	Did you enjoy it?
	Do you have a good Father's Day?
	He doesn't care because it's a Hallmark holiday.
	He doesn't mention his children either.
	Not even a little!
	Just ridiculous.
	I wonder if he saw the same TikTok that I saw where these, like, trad wives were talking about how they think it's hot when men still drink whole milk.
	Interesting.
	So he drank like two full milkshakes and ate a bunch of cheese?
	Chased it with an Alfredo sauce or something it sounded like?
	Yeah, so it was a Philly with extra cheese and an egg, a chili cheeseburger which probably has that liquid gold on top.
	I hope so.
	French fries, two milkshakes, Alfredo, which is indulgent on its own, cookies, plus milk, a pint of ice cream, and a Mexican Coke.
	Most of that is dairy, and I don't know if I'm being sensitive because I can't really handle that without shitting my pants, but like, kind of jealous.
	I would only do one of these things.
	Yeah, once a week.
	Philly's, they're good.
	It's a good sandwich.
	Local Philly spot?
	Sprout.
	Amazing Philly.
	Talking about Whiz Kid.
	Yeah, they're so good.
	It's good stuff.
	Is that a trailer?
	Sonny's is good, too.
	No, this is in a bar.
	It's in a bar.
	It's like a back room of a bar.
	When you come here, Jared, get Whiz Kid.
	Yeah, we're gonna have him.
	I'll see y'all in two weeks, really.
	Oh, and we'll grab some Whiz Kid and we'll sit down around this table together.
	Let's sit around a table at the bar.
	All right, and honestly, no hate for, you know, having a fun weekend eating food, but like... Indulge, baby dude.
	I don't know that song.
	Baby dude?
	Short for a boy?
	Baby dude?
	Baby dude.
	All right, well, yeah, I just glad you had fun eating food and maybe seeing your kids.
	I've seen his children.
	Time to kick off their hateful holiday with a June 13th episode which was called a Disney makes Star Wars galactically gay.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Welcome to Louder With Crowder's 9th Annual Cultural Appropriation Month.
	As we take you across this globe to experience all the wondrous and diverse cultures we have to offer.
	Because to appropriate is to appreciate.
	This week, join us as we venture to the heart of the terrorist-supporting and mysterious Middle East.
	A land of men with comically unkept beards, endless stockpiles of definitely not-enriched uranium, and that one Ben Affleck film.
	Who the f*** are you?
	Then f**k you.
	And until 1979, hot chicks in bikinis.
	That's right.
	This week, allow us to whisk you away to the land of Iran!
	They've done Iran before.
	This isn't the first time.
	I hate this so much because for one thing, when you see Steven and all of them doing this, they want you to react to them.
	Of course.
	That's all they want.
	It's a baiting holiday.
	Yeah.
	Sounds worse than I meant it to.
	Yeah.
	Sorry about that.
	Real gooner hours.
	Do we have a term for a holiday that's focused around hate?
	I don't have one yet, but if anyone has one... Sort of Festivus has like a big airing of the grievances.
	Well, here we go.
	Star Wars is pretty much dead because they are gay.
	This is an abomination, you know this, and it is punishable by flying off rooftops.
	It has been raining men in my country.
	It's not a season, it is pretty much a year round, and there have been some people in my country attacking fast food places, but you know, you win some, you lose some.
	So he's dressed as the Ayatollah, obviously.
	Sure.
	Immediately exhausting.
	Oh.
	Having to hear him talk like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Does he stay in character the whole show?
	Maybe.
	Okay, well, Star Wars is gay, so we know that.
	What does he mean?
	What's the new one that's not Andor?
	It's like... Acolyte?
	It's the Acolyte.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh yeah, it has like some gay people in it or trans people in it?
	Yeah, there's gay people in there.
	They used to like Star Wars and stuff though, right?
	No, it's only when they had that hot teen on there.
	Excuse me?
	Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
	As soon as she turned of age, they shut that show off.
	Yeah, they said episode one and maybe episode two.
	Not clear.
	Childbearing years?
	No.
	Shut it down.
	Yeah.
	They also complain that there's a trans actor that is playing their original sex.
	So they're confused by that.
	Okay.
	So Leslie Hedlund is the show creator.
	They're openly queer.
	And so obviously these guys have a problem with that.
	Yeah, it's a problem, dude.
	How many species and races do you think there are in Star Wars?
	That's a great point, but they are all heterosexual within their species.
	Yeah, there were no asexual ones.
	Jabba the Hutt's a guy and he likes chicks.
	Exactly.
	What about C-3PO?
	Isn't he gay-coded?
	Like literally gay-coded?
	I think you're right.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	But yeah, Amanda Steinberg is non-binary and gay who plays a lead role and there's, you know, characters that refer to having two mothers and there's even characters that are identifying as lesbian witches.
	Huh.
	Well, this sounds like my kind of Star Wars.
	I don't have a problem with that.
	Why does Steven give a shit?
	Remember he criticized Darth Maul's fighting style the other week?
	Oh yeah, you missed that.
	He didn't think that you could properly do the tricks he was doing with the Bo staff and he had improper form.
	He really does have some thoughts about episode one.
	They physically moved things and hit things together when they were filming that.
	None of this matters, really, at all.
	It does matter.
	Not at all.
	Okay, you're right.
	and CEO second in command and of course a great Persian historical figure is Xerxes Morgan
	it's not gay even I mean, that's pretty close.
	300 Rise of an Empire.
	I didn't watch this one.
	Was this a sequel to 300?
	Yeah, but he was in the first one.
	Oh, he was the guy, this is kind of his Scorpion King moment.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, okay.
	They spent considerably less money on that one.
	You can't give everything the Zack Snyder treatment, I suppose, but I don't know, Gerald kind of looks like the Xerxes guy, if I'm being honest.
	Other than the physique.
	He looks like he bought a Xerxes costume specifically from the movie 300.
	Well, it's just gold chains and stuff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, he definitely did no personal styling of this.
	It's just like, let me find a picture.
	Yeah.
	I think that he really just wants badly to be kicked in the chest by that 300 guy.
	Ooh, damn.
	You're talking about Gerald Butler.
	Gerald wants Gerald Butler to kick him right in the sternum.
	It's giving Pride Month, if I'm being honest.
	I honestly think that it's giving cry for help.
	He's over here putting himself in this dangerous situation with all this gold paint like they did on Goldfinger.
	Oh, sure.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so, yeah, nothing's changed.
	You know, Crowder doesn't really give a shit about workers' rights or what's applicable.
	So they're just, you know, I have to assume using lead paint on him.
	Poor guy.
	And he was okay with that.
	Seems like it.
	And we have, of course, here today the funniest man alive, August 10th on Saturday.
	He will be at the Gas South Theater in Duluth, Georgia.
	You can see all of his programs at nickdip.com.
	We have Mr. Soleimani!
	Yes, it'll be at Kaboom's!
	Yes!
	In Tehran.
	That's right, in Tehran.
	Look at that!
	Is that Nick DiPaolo?
	That's Nick DiPaolo wearing a, you know, a military jacket.
	Yeah, he just looks like an angry, like, Vietnam guy.
	He got off kind of easy there, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Pretty cool.
	So, let's get a little bit of flavor here.
	Some key facts you may not know about Iran.
	I'll allow it.
	Over 60% of the country's 80 million people are actually under 30 years of age.
	Wow.
	Oh boy.
	That's gonna be a problem.
	Number two, couples that want to get married in our wonderful country must take an hour-long lecture on contraception.
	Mistake.
	A lecture, huh?
	Yeah, you take it.
	Interesting.
	So yeah, I mean, he's open and accept the lecture inside them.
	So the youth population, of course, this was after the baby boom in the 1980s.
	It was when Iran was a little bit more liberated.
	Sure.
	I don't really know what Stephen's problem is with this, I guess.
	Is it a problem that there's a lot of young people?
	I guess he seems to think that, but also saying that percentage is under 30.
	The birth rate has decreased since the 1980s.
	I think he's concerned that it's going up or staying the same.
	I don't know what he's saying.
	I'm not really sure either.
	Did he just like find a Trivial Pursuit card and was like, oh, I know.
	Well, he also said that, and I couldn't quite figure this out, so I pulled it, that Iran has the most substantial number of suicide tourists.
	Like that go there or leave there?
	To die by suicide there, yeah.
	That's more of a Sweden thing.
	I don't know.
	Their medically assisted suicide is legal.
	So I couldn't quite understand.
	Maybe he's making like a suicide vest joke, but I don't really know if that's it or if that's just me trying to put myself in racist shoes.
	It's kind of shitty.
	Before you be a bigot, walk a while in their hate.
	No, I don't really enjoy to do that very much.
	But yeah, then there's this.
	So let me tell you, we don't have to do this anymore, do we?
	No, I think we're done.
	He stays in accent for maybe 40 more minutes talking exclusively facts about Iran that would require 50 fact-check stops.
	So I decide, and Nick DiPaolo is saying weird racist shit the whole time, so I was like, I can't.
	Did he have a super cut of his terrible comedy at the beginning of this one?
	No, they didn't promo it with that weirdness.
	Of course.
	I really would have kept that in for sure.
	No, but I decided it would probably be better use of our time to just move on to the next episode of Cultural Appropriation Month, which was the June 20th episode of Ladderworth Grounder.
	But what are we appreciating this time?
	I don't know.
	Oh man.
	Welcome to Louder With Crowder's 9th Annual Cultural Appropriation Month, where we introduce you to all the great and wondrous cultures our planet has to offer.
	Because to appropriate is to appreciate.
	This week, join us as we travel back in time to a point in history of this, our great land.
	A time where grown men dance to call in the rain.
	Where adults have zero tolerance for fire water and a propensity for scalping which has nothing to do with ticket sales.
	A land where casinos dot the landscape.
	It will blow sky high.
	There's gonna be a lot of embarrassed and a lot of red faces.
	Like the mighty buffalo of yore.
	Tatanka.
	Tatanka with a clothesline!
	Buffalo.
	That's right.
	We're time traveling to America before it was America.
	A place the natives simply called... Hi-ya-ya-ya Hi-ya-ya-ya Hi-ya-ya-ya Hi-ya-ya-ya Hi-ya-ya-ya Hi-ya-ya-ya That is the longest one minute and 17 seconds.
	That felt like 45 minutes.
	I had to look at the clock and I was like dang.
	So I warned you guys.
	It's going backwards now.
	I warned you we typically you don't listen to the comedy bits and that's kind of just an example.
	And I still didn't so I don't know what you're talking about.
	And that streak continues.
	Yeah.
	Holy shit.
	I mean a lot in there.
	That's not the last time you'll hear the What Made the Red Man Red from Peter Pan.
	What did he dress up as?
	Uh, Stephen?
	Yeah.
	He dressed up as the Indian in the cupboard, of course.
	How?
	How? How?
	How am I supposed to do this show?
	You can't even see the knife.
	Important.
	What the fuck is that, man?
	That's Steven Crowder with a bald cap that doesn't match his skin.
	Skin at all.
	And hair behind him.
	Tomahawk, a little wolf stuffed animal.
	What else we got?
	Dude, it looks like his head's coated in like a cheese of some kind.
	Yeah, it's not good, that's for sure.
	Oh.
	Uh.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's not good.
	What's going on there?
	This is terrible.
	Like, I don't expect a good costume out of him.
	No, of course.
	To be fair.
	But his entire stick is just, he's actually like Native Americans.
	Showing off his top surgery scars.
	I mean, he's pretty proud of those pecs if I'm honest.
	Was there a guy from Red Hot American Summer?
	Chris Maloney's character?
	Is that who it is?
	Sure.
	From this angle, he looks like Zangief from Street Fighter.
	Interesting.
	That's another week of Cultural Appropriation Month that we'll probably talk about next year.
	It's terrible.
	It sucks.
	It's bad.
	It's just beginning.
	All right, so it's Cultural Appropriation Month, as you well know, and we'll be checking out your costumes a little bit later.
	Sir, I'm a little bit winded.
	We were rushing quite a bit here to get these things done.
	It's time for some fast facts that you may not know.
	♪ Hilarious.
	You ready for some fast facts, boys?
	No.
	And banned.
	Because to appropriate is to appreciate.
	Key fact number one, Native American casinos are a $40 billion per year industry.
	One problem, I think, is the fact that the rich are continuing to get richer from these projects by getting, I think, what is it, 40% of the profit.
	So they're taking advantage of these opportunities on Native American land to make more money from them.
	Broadly speaking, what I'll say is that where people will find loopholes, there's people who will exploit those.
	Of course.
	Just because there's lots of money being generated by these casinos doesn't mean that the Native Americans are doing great!
	No, it certainly doesn't because also casinos like this bring in unsavory individuals sometimes.
	More crime.
	Car theft is a big thing at these casinos as well.
	Drug use.
	Really?
	Yeah, all kinds.
	Just a violent crime.
	One time Sir Mix-a-Lot was calling bingo at a casino on a Native American reservation.
	Oh really?
	Yeah.
	I mean, he's from Washington, you know?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I forgot he is a Pacific Northwest gentleman.
	Yeah.
	So Stephen's, his point over what he's about to try to talk to us about is that while we may believe that Native Americans are candidates for reparations, But that they have these types of, like, capitalistic entities in their communities that are like, but don't you see they're making money?
	They're substantially.
	They're bringing, you know, they're, so I don't know.
	Yeah.
	And some people are for sure, but also most people are not.
	Most people are not invested into the casino, I guess.
	No.
	But they are maybe invested into giving the casino their money.
	And when those casinos fail, they get left high and dry oftentimes.
	Every single reservation I've ever been on, dude, nothing but beautiful homes, skyscraper apartments, yachts.
	Well, he might also point that out and blame it on something else.
	I'm just joking.
	That's not the case at all.
	Well, I know, I know what you're saying.
	It's just, you know, he would say that they all live in trailers.
	I think I may have even cut the clip.
	Oh, sure.
	But he says that that's because they're all alcoholics and lazy.
	OK, let's just I want to follow his logic here.
	So they buy alcohol at the casino.
	It's probably given to them for free for gambling.
	But then that money doesn't go back into their coffers.
	He can't say that they make money on the casino and then blame them for patronizing the casino.
	I don't know what he feels about that.
	I think he just, obviously, I don't think.
	He's just a racist.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Fast fact number two.
	Hey, do you remember this famous crying Indian?
	Are we allowed to?
	We're gonna say Indian.
	Do you remember this famous crying Indian ad from that anti-pollution PSA?
	Some people have a deep, abiding respect for the natural beauty that was once this country.
	And some people don't.
	You remember that?
	I do.
	In the 1970s.
	The Keep America Beautiful campaign.
	Did you say Make America Beautiful?
	Again?
	Keep America Beautiful again.
	Different.
	Of course, Stephen pulls up this old reference because that's the only thing that he remembers is, you know, broad, general, cultural moments.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, it turns out his name is Esper Oscar Decordi and he's actually Italian.
	Yeah, not a native.
	Like Chris Columbus!
	He does not look native.
	I got your trash right here!
	Is that what they call it?
	Spaghetti Western?
	That's actually the only appropriate one that you can do.
	Italian accents still on the table.
	Where is Nick DiPaolo when we need him?
	Mamma mia!
	Honestly, I mean, we can keep this pretty short.
	Are you trying to tell me that entertainment industry in the 1970s wasn't, you know, ethical?
	Like, what are we talking about?
	Yeah.
	No, they didn't focus on actual representation?
	You know, I think that Hollywood in the 70s used a lot of Italians to represent Native Americans.
	It's not good.
	I like how he acts like he caught the Native Americans pulling a fast one on us.
	I guess I don't really understand the point.
	Yeah, what is he saying there other than, hey America used to be even more racist about Native Americans.
	We started that way and it's never gotten better.
	Well, it's gotten a little better, and hopefully it gets a lot better.
	It got better than the worst, of course.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, it got really bad.
	Yeah, it started very poorly.
	Yeah.
	Also, you may not notice, there are more Lakota today than ever.
	180,000, which is nine times more than there happened to be in the 18th century, which means that the white man is not very good at genocide.
	If it's a genocide, we screwed up.
	What?
	Imagine the Holocaust with 6 million more Jews than before you started.
	So, that's been the Fast Facts.
	Yeah, if I had to guess.
	Let me go ahead and make a point about Jewish people in a segment about Native Americans.
	So here's the thing.
	That's the third fast fact.
	Yeah, of course.
	Here's the thing that he's not talking about.
	He's not talking about how large they could have been if we hadn't massacred them.
	90-95% of the indigenous population died after Americans got here.
	Fuck man, that's so disgusting.
	It went from 145 million to 7-15 million indigenous people.
	That was- who fucking cares?
	I mean- Don't look it up.
	I was gonna say who fucking cares about the Lakotas, but like I do, but like in the grand scheme of things, like to take that one example and use that as like- Yeah.
	Your anchor that we didn't genocide?
	Yeah, we didn't do a Trail of Tears or nothing.
	If you even search that in your Google, I'm breaking your damn fingers.
	The Native American Wars, there was 1,500 attacks and raids on Native Americans.
	There's the forced relocation, the Indian Removal Act of 1830, the Trail of Tears, of course.
	4,000 Cherokees died during the Trail of Tears.
	It's disgusting.
	I think what bothers me most about this one is that Steven's acting like this culture that he's appropriating doesn't exist here.
	They're not Americans.
	They're here.
	They're people just like you and I. I mean obviously all these people are people just like you and I, but it's like you still probably drive through reservations All the time.
	I imagine.
	Is there, is there a reservation?
	I know Amarillo.
	There are like the largest.
	Yeah.
	Texas.
	There's not that many in Texas, but regardless, we are surrounded
	by like Oklahoma and New Mexico.
	So these people he's making fun of are more American than he is by far.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	While we're not actively genociding native Americans, like wasn't too long
	ago that we were like culturally genociding them by like removing forced,
	removing children from families and still taking them to churches where we
	like board them force assimilate.
	It's clearly it's, it's still, I mean, if, if Steven can take an entire
	episode of a show to make stereotypical remarks about native Americans.
	Yeah.
	It's fucked.
	It sucks.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Great summary.
	But the whole point of Cultural Appropriation Month, at least what it used to be from what I can deduce, is that it was a call to action for the audience.
	It was a participatory... Like they'd do it at their hometown or what?
	No, he would try to get people to, you know, send them racist pictures on social media.
	Send in your costumes the winner of the costume contest will win a lock of Gerald's back hair
	You can post it on X or of course on mug club You have to be holding your mug with your best Native
	American costume or motif I guess because to appropriate is to appreciate use the
	hashtag LWC native I don't know what's going on with my clips today. So I do
	apologize for the weird glitches, but Is that really what he wants?
	He's like, hey, send me your pictures that I'll use against you when you run for political office in like 30 years?
	Kind of, and he'll give you a lock of Gerald's hair.
	Yeah, well actually Gerald shaved it all off to dress up as Xerxes.
	And spoiler alert, I think we're gonna wrap up tonight's episode by looking at some of the submissions and, you know, discussing those and maybe what we think is the best.
	I want to say, listener, if you happen to ever listen to Steven Crowder's show, and he asks you to send him costumes of you being a bigot, please don't.
	Consider not doing that.
	That will affect your employment in the future.
	From a completely selfish standpoint, don't ever do that.
	Your potential mates, your suitors.
	You're renting prospects, you're house buying prospects.
	Yeah.
	This is just not going to look good trying to get into college, trying to get your Juris Doctor.
	Interesting.
	You can't do any of this.
	Steven Crowder did this to you.
	And so did Gerald.
	Great.
	Gatton Morgan number two, how are you sir?
	I'm doing okay.
	It's a little touchy here.
	That's true.
	I don't know if they teach that in school, that we learned the fine art of scalping from the natives.
	You know, scalping, it only stinks forever.
	So there's Gerald dressed as a pilgrim having been scalped.
	That's what that is.
	He's just not wearing it.
	I thought it was maybe like hamburger meat on his head at first.
	Sure, it doesn't look great.
	Yeah, it looks like a burger shop called like Nun Burger.
	Okay.
	He looks like a nun that just has the burger on the head directly.
	Yeah, very cool.
	If I was gonna rank Xerxes versus the Pilgrim that got scalped, I'd say Xerxes all day.
	I guess I just spoiled Jared.
	Hold tight.
	Mr. Okay, who are you wearing?
	I am, I think it's pretty obvious.
	I'm Chief Cherokee.
	Well, we have to bring down his lower third.
	There's trademark infringement.
	I'm the Chief Cherokee.
	Well, we get it under the, there we go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Look at me.
	I'm from the land of Mopar.
	And, uh, we fight four by four.
	That's how we fight in my country.
	Yes, you do.
	And I can get you a great deal on Wrangler.
	Yes, you can.
	And you fight on all terrain.
	Look at this.
	Uh, I got the day, I got the, these are my brights and then I got my daytime running lights.
	Wow!
	Oh, look at that!
	Oh, those are strobing.
	Hey, you're excited.
	Yeah, that's gonna give me a seizure.
	I'll turn it off.
	I'll turn it off.
	Thank you, Josh.
	I'm gonna, yeah, Josh won today.
	It's not good, but it is at least, like, There's effort, I suppose.
	There's a pun effort.
	Josh Firestein is sitting third chair wearing a Native American headdress face painted in the, you know, the old glory style.
	It's American flag with the stripes going across.
	He's actually the shaman, the mega shaman.
	It does look a little bit like Jacob Chansley.
	And also, what is this shirt?
	It's like a frilly pirate shirt.
	Well, it's funny because they did just do a Pirates of the Caribbean.
	It's the same shirt, I bet.
	It could very well be.
	It has to be.
	Yeah, but on top of that frilly shirt, a chain holding, I guess, what is the grill of a Jeep?
	Of a Jeep Wrangler, not a Jeep Cherokee.
	Oh, that's interesting, yeah.
	And it does have... What an idiot.
	It does have lights on it.
	Running lights and high beams.
	Yeah, it looks like he purchased that.
	What does his tattoo say, do you think?
	I don't know.
	Life is the middle word, but I want to know because it's going across mid-chest.
	You can't say what that is shirt on.
	I've seen it.
	That's true.
	I guarantee you Steven has, you know, forced him to disrobe at some point.
	He's got that big American...
	So so week one was Xerxes.
	Oh, yeah week one was Iran.
	Yeah week two is Native American.
	Are we gonna go down more?
	There's only two this month because he took the first half of June off The first two weeks he was on vacation, but so they dedicated an entire month to make fun of Iranians and Native Americans Yeah, once a week.
	Yeah, they picked those two cultures to focus on but we're not really done talking about Josh's outfit either Okay, you know the high beams and all that stuff.
	This is what I'll do when I get when I want to talk.
	Oh, a little inside joke.
	All right.
	I'm not going to honor it.
	Nope.
	I wouldn't expect it to.
	You know, this is a deep cut that not many people would be able to pull unless
	you're, I mean, a long time fan of the show.
	I don't know if I've mentioned this earlier, Jared, does that ring a bell?
	The light on to know when he should talk?
	No.
	Really?
	Oh wow.
	I think you've mentioned it before.
	Well, I'll give you a quick refresher.
	So on April 20th, 2023, former third chair Dave Lando... Ahoy guy!
	Hell yeah!
	Appeared on the You're Welcome podcast with Michael Malice.
	This is shortly after Dave was fired.
	And then, you know, it became a little weird because a light was put in where it was his rant button.
	And it was basically a Dave Don't Talk button.
	Wait, so there's literally a lightbulb?
	What color was the lightbulb?
	There was four lights in a row.
	There were three lights!
	I'm serious.
	And when it was hit, I wasn't supposed to talk.
	And they said... Was it like a regular colored lightbulb, or was it like red?
	Uh, it was like a yellow, a pretty bright yellow, like a, you know, like yield.
	So it's like off-camera, but in your eyesight?
	Yes, and I was- Was he the one pressing the button, or was their producer pressing the button?
	He would press it.
	So, like, Mr. Burns, like, he had a button under his desk or the table, and when it's Stephen's turn to talk and Dave needs to shut the F up, he presses this button.
	Yes.
	I swear to God we've talked about this, but Stephen installed a button under his desk that would trigger a light so when Stephen would do these long extended rants he didn't want to be interrupted.
	I don't remember a whole guy sounding like that at all.
	Really?
	Yeah, his voice sounds way different.
	It's been a while.
	Probably because he was over Zoom.
	I bet if it was straight into a good mic it'd sound different.
	He'd have a little bit more timber to it.
	Yeah.
	He had that.
	Well, and then I was told that he's like, well, that was always there.
	And I'm like, no, I would have noticed the light and been told about it.
	How are you informed that there is a Don't Talk Light and what was your reaction?
	I was pissed a bit because I know my job.
	I know that he talks a lot.
	I know that he's the star of the show.
	I know when to throw him what he needs to be thrown.
	I know when to sit back.
	It's what I did with Anthony for Years.
	It's what I did next to Artie.
	It's what I do.
	I'm not trying to ever steamroll him.
	Right.
	Why did he sound so caring about him still?
	I don't know.
	In full context, it's pretty clear that I think more than anything he's hurt.
	It sounded like a breakup the way he was talking about it.
	Well, he did choose to leave.
	He had jury duty when he returned to even pitch the new NDA, and Dave found it unacceptable, which it seems like there's a streak of that, and also there's a lot more.
	There's an update to the whole Jared Monroe thing that we don't have time to talk about today, but...
	It seems also legally NDAs are questionable across the board now, so we're gonna learn a little bit more about that at some point, I would imagine.
	Maybe when we talk with a special guest that we've been in communication with.
	A lawyer.
	A bit of a lawyer, huh?
	Yeah, we'll talk about that some other time.
	But yeah, Dave also mentioned that he got a raise that ended up being $1,000 more a year, which makes me super curious to know how much he was making to begin with, if he's only working in even single thousands to participate in the show, in which he was forced to relocate his wife and child to the state to participate in to begin with, which is the same thing that they required Josh to do.
	$1,000 raise?
	Yeah, like I don't want to minimize anyone else's career, but like that's not enough to move for something.
	Certainly not.
	Here's a number to really throw that in perspective.
	Since 2019, the average mortgage cost per month has doubled.
	Yeah.
	A thousand dollar increase.
	Damn.
	If that was a double.
	Yeah.
	If you didn't get a thousand dollars before, you got a double.
	And we gotta be honest, Dave Landau is far more established than Josh Lemon Party Firestein.
	It's dark.
	It's interesting to hear from Dave.
	I know it's been a while since we've heard from the Ahoy guy.
	I'm so glad the Ahoy guy reached out.
	What?
	I'm not talking with Dave.
	Imagine if you found out I thought all these people were sending these messages to us.
	That was just like an unknown voicemail.
	That's how you're getting the information.
	No!
	I thought we were getting voicemails from Stevie.
	Have I reached out to Dave?
	I don't think I have reached out to Dave if I'm honest.
	I have a complicated relationship in my mind with Dave Landau because it seems like, much like many of the comedians that come on to Crowder's show, they come in like center-left and they leave center-right.
	Yeah.
	Things go worse for them after they leave the show.
	Yeah.
	Dave, however, he has a show on Blaze, on the Blaze Network, which is Glenn Beck's YouTube network, or I guess podcast network, called Normal World, and they seem to be doing okay.
	Yeah.
	And I don't tune into that very often.
	I just, I wish better for people like Dave, if I'm being honest.
	They're taken advantage by Steven, of course, and I can have the sympathy.
	But at the same time, if they leave and continue making poor choices, it's really hard to... I don't know much about Dave, but I do.
	Their whole show is just very much like you are choosing to portray yourself in this way for very little money, it sounds like.
	So there has to be some version that this is beyond a job for you.
	This is like my media career.
	That's how they've chosen to go about that.
	So I guess in that way, I'm like, I don't really feel bad for these.
	Yeah, they're fucking dickheads.
	So I get it.
	And I agree with you guys to some extent.
	But I do feel like I don't know how established Dave was, but I feel like Josh Feierstein.
	He's making a career from this.
	Yes.
	And I think that because he doesn't have an established career that he's far more pliable and far more like easy to abuse.
	Yeah, I mean like he's he's working every week like he's doing stand-up on the road every week And so like he's gotta be making a paycheck and this is like definitely this is his resume Doing this.
	I dress up as Hitler.
	Yeah How many places can you go to?
	I mean comedy clubs for the most part are like Fairly down the middle.
	Yeah.
	That's sort of the thing I've always heard about comedy is like if you're at least like a nice person, like inside that scene, you know what I mean?
	Then they will, you get like infinite opportunities because there's not like an infinite amount of people that do that, especially like local or like people who can actually do it.
	And like, we'll, we'll again, same thing.
	We'll get into that like soon in a future episode, but.
	Yeah, I mean speaking of the future, The Shrug Club is going to be launching fairly soon, and I think it's going to kick off with, it turns out I have acquired some audio from the first time that Josh and Steven met in Spokane, Washington, where they were both performing stand-up comedy.
	So we might be reviewing not just Steven Crowder's stand-up comedy, but also Josh Feierstein's.
	I wonder how much it's changed since then.
	Probably not much.
	You're right.
	I feel like they don't do a lot of jokes.
	Yeah.
	If this is their best work that's on the show, not, not funny guys.
	Greatest hits.
	Greatest shits.
	Greatest shits.
	Well, uh, back to the show.
	Remember some cultural appropriation.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Forgot.
	Appreciate you doing the job.
	Bummer, dude.
	All right.
	What the heck is that?
	What the?
	Oh, I forgot.
	It's Pocahonting.
	Huh?
	It came with the studio.
	It's gonna go away.
	It came with the studio?
	It came with the studio, yeah.
	Where do I get the studio from?
	Sometimes these otherworldly entities, they attach themselves to objects.
	I think it's the difference between a poltergeist versus a demonic possession.
	Was it the cigarette that did it?
	I don't know, and I'm surprised.
	A poltergeist?
	Pocahontas.
	I gotta put my headphones in.
	She was also a Christian, which people don't talk about Pocahontas.
	She converted.
	Yeah, and she was converting other people, and they're like, hey, don't push your religion on me, pal.
	That's the kind of comedy that you can expect from professional comedians like Steven Crowder and Josh Feierstein.
	That was Pocahonting?
	So he just found like a pun?
	Well, it seems like he discovered a pun.
	You can't turn that into like a proper noun, really.
	Pocahonting?
	It was just a clip from Disney's Pocahontas.
	He could have done a... Thunder crashing and... Pocahont us.
	Reverb.
	Oh, but yeah, I mean, how do you... Let's punch this up if we're really trying to do this.
	Uh-oh, we're being Pocahonted.
	Sure, I can't believe she would Pocahont us.
	That's really good.
	Just call me John Smith because I am a...
	No.
	No.
	Okay, well, Pocahontas did convert to Christianity, but it is up for debate if that was, you know, a choice.
	She had been taken captive and forced into marriage.
	Just call me Lewis and Clark because... What you got?
	I'm Pocahonted.
	Okay.
	No.
	Alright, well.
	No, that wasn't it either.
	I'll write it down.
	I mean, you don't have to.
	I guess it's them trying to, you know, get a little bit of, like, Christian content into this.
	All these people who were, like, being like, hey listen, if you guys want to know the perfect Native American, the one that represents all Native Americans, was Pocahontas, and she wasn't even real.
	She was a poser Native American.
	That's what they're trying to imply.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yeah.
	Like, in the same way that we say, you know, the Republicans, some of them are closeted gays.
	Okay.
	Right?
	He's saying that Pocahontas is a closeted Christian.
	Sure.
	And she wasn't actually a true Native American, kind of a thing.
	She's being portrayed as a... Like the poster child for Native Americans.
	When... Hey, did you know she was actually...
	Here's the thing, she was held captive, right?
	Sure.
	Converted to Christianity.
	Uh-huh.
	I can guarantee you- You're doing finger quotes there.
	Yes, most people, if somebody were to kidnap me and say, hey listen, I'm gonna kill you if you don't convert to Catholicism, I'd be Catholic the next day.
	Probably, yeah, I'd say so.
	Yes.
	It's just dumb.
	I'll tell you what's dumb.
	Say I was painting with all of the colors of the wind.
	Okay.
	Oh no.
	He's here.
	And uh, uh, they were less opaque than usual.
	They started to look like ghosts.
	Maybe it was a little polka haunted.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	It's not much better.
	No.
	But I used the right.
	Yeah.
	Should he be concerned at all?
	No, it's just Pocahontan.
	Give it a second.
	And we're actually happy to announce a new sponsor, first time, 1775 Coffee.
	A lot of coffee companies out there, and you know, there's been a track record where people, you know, you think they're your allies, and then you're like, oh, okay, turns out this is just another coffee company.
	We've got a new coffee company.
	1775?
	I don't really know.
	I didn't want to look into the history.
	Oh, you want to dig into this?
	All right.
	When the American Revolutionary War started, I guess.
	Let's discuss a little bit about why he may be bitter about other coffee companies who claim to be conservative and then end up disappointing him.
	I'm pretty sure he's talking about Black Rifle Coffee Company, which is one of the largest coffee companies to come out of the pandemic.
	They may have started a little bit before that, but you know.
	Black Rifle?
	Yeah, right?
	They've been around for some while.
	I would say we were doing this the other day with Four Loko, right?
	Oh, sure.
	So I'm gonna bet that Black Rifle came out at least eight years ago.
	Yeah, but they really popped off during a lot of the... The Trump stuff.
	Yeah.
	Well, they were around before Trump, though.
	Well, they're in Walmarts now.
	Do you guys want to hear a few of the 1775 testimonials?
	Let me rock through this really quick and then we'll jump to that.
	Stephen's mad because they're distancing themselves from Kyle Rittenhouse, because in November 2020 he was released on bail and was wearing a Black Rifle Coffee t-shirt.
	A lot of people thought that they were sponsoring Kyle Rittenhouse and the company quickly issued a statement saying they had no affiliation with him and did not sponsor him, which pissed off a lot of people, especially the Second Amendment crowd, which of course when your coffee company is called Black Rifle Coffee Company and you're founded by army veterans, you know, People are going to be upset by that, but, uh, you know, the co-founder Evan Haffer, we do not support legal advocacy efforts.
	We do not sponsor, nor do we have a relationship with the 17 year old facing charges in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
	They didn't even say his name.
	Yeah.
	Brutal.
	He wasn't as famous back then.
	In July of 2021, the New York Times published an article called, Can Black Rifle Coffee Company Become the Starbucks of the Right?
	And in this piece, he made several comments that angered far-right supporters saying things like, It's such a repugnant group of people.
	It's like the worst of American society and I go to flush the toilet of some of those people that kind of hijacked portions of the brand.
	Interesting.
	And then referring to extremist groups.
	He said the racism fucking really pisses me off I hate racist proud boyish people like I'll pay them to leave the customer base I would gladly chop all of those people out of my fucking customer database and pay them to get the fuck out And this pissed off people again.
	It sounds like he wanted them to be pissed off.
	With that kind of language, I suppose.
	Yeah, it's like, uh, hey, uh, you know, get the fuck out of here.
	And they're like, well, I'm going to leave.
	Okay.
	You can't fire me.
	I quit.
	Obviously more customers start accusing them of going woke or becoming politically moderate, which is interesting because, you know, they are a coffee company looking to make money selling coffee.
	So like I said, they ended up in Walmart's like, You know what else they ended up doing?
	What's that?
	Securities fraud.
	Really?
	Yeah, to the tune of millions of dollars as well.
	Wow, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, this was a couple years ago.
	They got accused of it.
	I don't know if they actually did it, but it kind of seemed like they were... You remember like the GameStop, like post-GameStop stock trades?
	They got stunk?
	I think they did a bit of a pump-and-dump on their end.
	I think why I like picked up on this is because that's also like while I was leaving Carvana who is also did a wild pump-and-dump and ruined all of the stock folders of their longtime employees for the benefit of like two or three people.
	Damn.
	All right.
	Well, I didn't know that.
	Similar to Black Rifle, I believe that's what they were in the bag for with the securities fraud stuff.
	Well, even worse than that, Jared, some of their employees made personal donations to Democratic candidates or causes.
	Oh, fuck.
	Oh, my God.
	Disgusting.
	And also, they removed elements of their branding that included Christian imagery.
	Punisher skulls with Donald Trump's haircut on it.
	Yeah, that's a blonde roast of some sort, right?
	So, I've got information on 1775 Coffee.
	Oh yeah, tell me about this new sponsor.
	Great, first off, their Instagram handle?
	Rumble1775.
	Okay, so they're big on Rumble.
	Oh, actually, I think they're partially owned by Rumble.
	Oh, they definitely are.
	Huh, interesting.
	Their first post ever was on Instagram was February 2nd of this year.
	Okay.
	Just 1775 Coffee Co.
	with a Rumble logo.
	Oh, this is most definitely a Rumble Coffee Company.
	It's just a Rumble Coffee Company.
	That's all it is.
	I went to their About Us page because I want to get the story.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	I'll just read the first couple sentences here.
	Freedom is built on coffee.
	The very fact that you're... Stop.
	Yep.
	Freedom is built on coffee?
	Freedom is built on coffee.
	What do you mean?
	I don't know.
	I don't know about that.
	The very fact... Actually, it seems like a lot of... There's a lot of...
	They move on to talk about the most important thing in and about us.
	The very fact that you're listening to Rumble means that you too are a rebel.
	You reject the mainstream media narrative and recognize all the harm that it has brought us these last few years.
	Let's see, next one is all about Rumble again.
	That's why Rumble started at 1775 Coffee Company.
	Makes sense.
	And they do not make it seem like that.
	Interesting.
	Not at all.
	No, it's straight up coffee from, but they have free, free six to seven day delivery.
	That's pretty good.
	Six to seven days.
	It's fairly fresh, right?
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like if it's not getting to you within the week, then throw it out, you know?
	But isn't this like pre-freedom though?
	1775?
	Uh, it is.
	Yeah.
	It's pre-freedom.
	They're celebrating the American revolutionaries who were currently fighting at the time.
	All right.
	Well, that's something.
	That's an interesting way to go about it.
	Interesting.
	So I'm digging into the background here.
	It's part of the Stardust Group, which is founded by entrepreneur Foster Colson in 2021.
	And they focus on creating a parallel economy free from the influences of big pharma, big tech, big media and big governments.
	How easy is it to grift, man?
	Ma'am, it seems like you just need one guy named Foster and then you got all the cash you need, right?
	Hey listen, you're a rebel, right?
	Drink 1775 coffee.
	Stupid, this fucking sucks.
	Yes please.
	So we've talked about a lot of really obvious things.
	Steven doesn't dig deep with his takes.
	Sure.
	This one might be the dumbest.
	Oh, no.
	Many of you know that films are dubbed.
	I was raised in Canada, French Canada, where half of the films at the local, you know, cineplex, they were in French.
	And it was silly.
	And I had to make a choice, and if I missed one, tickets were sold out.
	Ah, jeez.
	I gotta go see Fast and Furious with a Parisian accent.
	I'm kidding.
	I never saw Fast and Furious.
	I did see I Spy in French, though.
	That was painful.
	That sounds bad.
	Owen Wilson and Eddie Murphy.
	So we're used to films being dubbed in foreign languages.
	Ready?
	Was that German?
	The construction of the new Death Star is being completed as planned.
	You have reached your goal.
	Was that German?
	It's fitting.
	You're not getting anywhere, Bobby.
	So let me explain.
	They're just watching clips of dubbed movies like Return of the Jedi, Pokemon, King of the Hill, and Friends.
	Okay.
	Don't they sound so crazy when he's talking to Chandler?
	That's like the kind of shit that when I was like 11 and I found funny- Something on YouTube or something.
	Like when you would turn on secondary audio program accidentally.
	Sure.
	It was like funny because you've never experienced it.
	yeah when you hear German speaking fluently for the first time it can be like oh this is crazy when you're a fucking kid yeah in the apartment Chandler that's good right yeah it's not bad not bad isn't it did Chandler have the duck I don't remember I need to re-watch the whole show.
	I feel like Joey would have a duck.
	Joey might have a duck but... Chandler being duck if we're looking on Pinterest.
	At least they're friends.
	So his whole take was just remember when... He's not even close to done.
	Oh he's not?
	Okay.
	I don't know if you know this but when people talk about cultural appropriation you can also find films now That have been dubbed in native languages.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Like Finding Nemo in Navajo.
	That's a good one.
	Really?
	Star Wars in Ojibwe.
	I have yet to see it, but it's in my queue.
	What is that language?
	Prey, which is the Predator prequel, you know, and that's the one where Arnold and Carl Weathers, they couldn't take him out with submachine guns or actually like rocket launchers, but this girl with a spear.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, apparently that's the Achilles heel of Predator.
	You can watch Prey in Comanche.
	Still sucks.
	So they've been dubbing them, and I don't know where, at a certain point, when, I don't really care, people can dub it in whatever they want, but when people bitch about constant appropriation, okay, this is kind of a white thing.
	I don't really know.
	Before we get to the idea of these films, which are distinctly American, you know, the idea of moving pictures also kind of came from the white man.
	You look so fucking mad.
	I'm so confused.
	You should see this guy.
	He's so angry.
	It's the dumbest take I think I might have ever heard.
	Movies are a white people thing, and if you translate it into another language... It's appropriation.
	Okay, just so you know, Steven, they're doing it to preserve that language.
	Great point.
	That's one of the many important things.
	Because these are dying languages that people want to keep alive.
	Of course!
	I mean, there's a lot of reasons that you would dub a film in native languages.
	And it's also, it's being done by people who speak those languages.
	Of course.
	It's not like it's Stephen doing it.
	Well, and he's bringing up the point that most of those people are multilingual, like they speak English for the most part.
	But you're right.
	It's all about preserving these endangered languages.
	That's it.
	And I mean, not it, because also, you know, it could spark interest in learning the language within the community, because there's a lot of young people that choose to not learn their native language.
	Totally.
	It would be a great way to do that.
	Well, I mean, like here we have, we have lots of Salish where we're from.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Hearing it spoken, like spoken, it's so interesting.
	I completely agree.
	It's so interesting, such interesting language.
	And I've never once heard it and been like, pfft.
	My father taught school on a Native American reservation and they would have, I don't, it was far too little in my opinion, but I think every once in a while they would have a Salish Kootenai person come in and teach the language.
	And there's, I mean, all kinds of local events where we have land recognitions, which would drive Stephen out.
	It would drive him fucking crazy.
	That's what I thought he was talking about the word at the end there where he said that this is like a white people thing.
	He was saying it was about movies or was he saying it's like white people are the ones who are outraged and are making this a to do?
	I think he's saying that the movies are a white people thing.
	An American thing.
	He also says that they would also not have the wheel, so I think he's most certainly talking about movies.
	Like you said earlier, Native Americans who have generation after generation after generation after generation, they're Americans.
	I'll tell you that this is a culture that I truly feel that Steven would not dump on.
	person may continue practicing those cultural elements of their...
	Imagine... I'll tell you that this is a culture that I truly feel that Stephen would not dump on.
	I bet if he listened to someone speaking Hawaiian, he wouldn't dump on that.
	Well, I don't know. Probably not, but...
	I don't think that he would.
	Less so.
	Yeah, and it's like, it's the exact same thing.
	It really is.
	It's the exact same thing.
	Except he wants to just deny the genocide.
	That's the thing that is the thorn in his paw at this point.
	Of course.
	He's exhibiting white guilt, and he hates it.
	He doesn't want to feel it.
	He's trying to hide it.
	That's what he's doing.
	Even the beginning segment of this episode, he talks about the history, like the deep history.
	He's like, we'll go back in time.
	Like Native Americans are still here.
	Like he didn't go back in time when we were talking about Iran.
	Yeah.
	He didn't go to the 1500s when we were talking about Iran.
	Yeah.
	The way he's dissecting this is just, I mean, disgusting.
	you know he's using the uh the Ojibwe which is like you know mostly like native to the Michigan area right where he's from so it's like a very like a home example for him it looks like yeah this is the one that I know and these are the people that I am most racist against in my Native American experience so I don't know I mean like just to that end anyway if you look it up on Wikipedia Ojibwe page like They're native sign that they use for you know their Alphabet, I guess it's like it's it's on Wikipedia, so it's like all this stuff is like Dennis was saying like for preservation right of these things so it's just I
	That we're like looking at these things and I don't know like putting Ojibwe in our lexicon I guess is just like the fuck is the problem with that?
	Like absolutely nothing.
	It's like it's just representation for even more people and it's like obviously what is wrong with that for him is that he is not being represented.
	I think you're right.
	I think that he he wants to have a culture exclusive enough that he feels like it can be exploited.
	That's the vibe I get.
	And also, just one more thing.
	Are you saying that these people are looking to be victims?
	I think that Steven is, aggressively.
	But I think, can you play that really quickly?
	Just play that clip one more time.
	I wanted to call out how absolutely disgusted Gerald is at the very first thing he mentions when he mentions about the translation.
	Sure.
	That have been dubbed in native languages.
	Yeah.
	Like Finding Nemo in Navajo.
	That's a good one.
	Really?
	Star Wars in Ojibwe.
	I have yet to see it, but it's in my queue.
	What is that language?
	Prey, which is the Predator prequel.
	This is nasty, like, really?
	Really?
	Oh, it's dismissive.
	Yeah.
	Come on, really?
	And I mean, one small thing before we leave this, these kind of dubbing projects, like, offer jobs to Native American people.
	Of course!
	There's just nothing wrong with it.
	If Steven lived in a place that, you know, not many people spoke a language that was really important to him, he would feel great value in knowing that he was being represented by just someone making it easier for him.
	You know, when I was in Japan, I went and saw a movie that was dubbed in English and it made me really happy to be able to experience something like that.
	Nobody was like... They're scoffing.
	You have a bunch of like... This should be in Japanese.
	Japanese mug clubbers outside.
	Just mad.
	Madder than hell.
	But of course.
	I feel like they have bigger problems to focus on.
	Us.
	What?
	Instead of... Lakota, instead of movie dubbing.
	Oh, don't you go on with your rampant alcoholism bullshit again, Gerald.
	Well, that and wearing Levi's and, you know, having a bag.
	The white man makes me wear these!
	They don't.
	I mean, there's just probably like one Marvel fan who's a Lakota guy.
	Like, we have to do this in our own language.
	You don't.
	Plus, I can't watch it because I don't have the streaming package with Sprint.
	Yeah, I want to see the sales numbers on that stuff.
	Yeah, ten.
	It's not about how many.
	Yes, it is.
	No, it's not.
	Again, it's just not about how many people.
	It's just about the preservation.
	He's like, don't they have bigger problems?
	Yeah, they do.
	They do.
	And you are one of the bigger problems.
	You're a huge problem.
	Yeah, you are a symptom of the bigger problem, which is hatred and bigotry and denying our past and stereotypes.
	Yes.
	The reel of Gerald Morgan doing the Taylor Swift song.
	Does he have that?
	I don't think so.
	Yeah, he definitely does.
	I was on his fence though.
	You guys don't have access to it, but as he's been showing up in the people you may know section on my Facebook, it perpetually makes me feel like...
	We have a connection now.
	It matters deeply to the people it matters to, and it shouldn't matter to you.
	Yeah.
	It's that simple.
	I want to talk a little bit about the film Prey, though, as a horror fan.
	2022 film, kind of a significant milestone in cinema because it's the first feature film to be fully dubbed in Comanche, which is really... The first one ever?
	Yeah!
	Really?
	Really?
	It's amazing.
	I mean the story was set not where you would think a Predator film would be set in 300 years ago in the Comanche Nation.
	It's not like those stereotypical films where like you're in Russia like the Red October and they speak English.
	Yeah it was really cool like thoughtful slow and it handles like The Native American culture really.
	That makes so much more sense.
	In high regard.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The movie's great.
	I was a little bit nervous as like, you know, like he's saying, the first Predator movie, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	Jesse the body.
	You got Carl Weathers.
	Shooting machine guns.
	Terminator?
	No, no, the same kind of era.
	I've never seen any of the Predator movies.
	Oh, really?
	I mean, that one just for like, it's a cinematic masterpiece.
	Yeah, it's a completely different approach to the subject matter, but it really worked.
	I think it does have something for those like old-school meathead fans of Predator films.
	Interesting story and it still has the action from the other films.
	And also, like I said, you know, the fact that it is 300 years ago in a native language, I think it's completely underrated.
	I put it off.
	I need to watch it.
	You know, relationship with someone who's not that interested in that kind of movie, but I just don't see how you can care about this being dubbed without hating on every single dub in the entire world.
	Well, it's called being racist and selectively racist.
	I know, I know.
	I'm just saying the logic isn't there.
	No.
	Right.
	But we've identified what Josh and Gerald are wearing and Stephen, the Indian in the cupboard, of course.
	Yeah, great costumes.
	10 out of 10.
	We didn't go around the horn all the way yet.
	We got production staff to talk about.
	Oh no.
	Really quickly, we need to, like, do the costumes.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, I forgot.
	Cherokee, Scout Pilgrim, and then we have Toolman.
	What are you?
	I'm Windex.
	Oh, careful, you'll make me, you'll make my mouth water.
	And I can't see Billy the Kid.
	Before Orbit there was Clean Mouth and Windex.
	Buffalo Bill.
	Look to the camera when you say it, Billy.
	Oh, Buffalo Bill.
	Oh, wow.
	I dress like me.
	What are you?
	What are you?
	You should be the change that you wish to see in the world, Steven.
	Oh, my world?
	Wrong Indian, dude!
	It's feather, not dot, bro.
	What?
	I don't get it.
	Feather, not the dot.
	I understand that.
	He was dressed up as an Indian.
	Yeah, from India.
	Why is he a Windex?
	I mean, that's just perpetuating some other gross stereotypes about Native Americans and alcoholism, which I gotta say, that's a myth.
	The old fire water myth.
	They did a study that shows that Native Americans in the same social economic situations have the same problems with alcohol as white people or any other... Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, it's just like a smaller population of people.
	So it's like a minority in most cases.
	Well, I think that what it is, is it's poverty.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's poverty.
	It's a lack of health care.
	We should be asking, okay, cool.
	If that, if poverty is something that affects Native Americans more, then maybe we should look at why that is.
	How they address that.
	Exactly.
	Not just, you know, blame them for the problems that poverty caused.
	Yeah.
	It's the same reason that when people talk about, like, you know, black kids without fathers and how they are more likely to commit crimes or whatever.
	Sure.
	It's a poverty thing.
	Well, I mean historical trauma exists as well, like that does pass down.
	But the Windex thing is just a gross stereotype.
	Is there alcohol in Windex or something?
	It's like ammonia.
	I don't know that there's... Yeah, I don't think you can drink that, but I mean Listerine, of course, there's always like all of these... But what is the Windex?
	I think it's the same hateful stereotype.
	I love that we're trying to figure out, like, what... We can't break it down.
	We can't break it down.
	It's too racist.
	Yeah, they're accusing Native Americans of drinking Windex to get drunk or fucked up on, which, like, I don't... Yeah, that's what they're going for there.
	Maybe, like, an old formula of Windex or something had, like, icy profile alcohol or something like that, some sort of, like, alcohol cleaning agent in it.
	I mean, like, does that track?
	They're just... Okay, yeah, they're just saying that they're drinking bullshit, that they have a drinking problem, I guess.
	I don't, I can't, I can't figure it out.
	It's a stupid stereotype.
	Yeah.
	It's a stupid stereotype that, um, it's just like we were talking about, it's socioeconomic status.
	Of course.
	That's what drives it.
	Same thing with, like, casinos.
	Socioeconomic status.
	That's all it is.
	And we just blame it on race because the problems that, hey, you know, because we have this crazy generational, like, wealth as white people broadly.
	Uh-huh.
	Hey, what do you know?
	Stats are funky.
	Well, and then when you aren't benefiting from that generational wealth, you can also be bitter about that and, you know.
	Blame it on the people less fortunate than you for some reason.
	Exactly.
	Which is kind of why we're probably going to get Trump again.
	Ah, damn it.
	A comedy show, right?
	I mean, I've been laughing a lot.
	Yeah.
	I wonder if that works if you're with a woman who's arguing, like, why did you come back to the teepee so high, high, high, high?
	She's like, now I gotta do it too.
	Now it's raining?
	God dang it.
	Every time I have an argument, you bring the rain.
	Oh, it's romantic.
	Don't spoil it.
	We can have makeup.
	I think they invented karate, you know?
	What?
	Were they doing like a Karate Chop motion or something?
	Yeah, they were doing the old Tomahawk.
	Football man hand.
	Yeah, we got one more clip, boys.
	Oh, thank God.
	It's the white man's fault that our land looks like every episode of Cops.
	Yes.
	Take those wheels off and put it on cinder blocks, as it should have been by nature.
	Yes!
	Does this thing have... Wheels!
	Does this thing have...
	I made the Red Man Red!
	Wheels!
	Rum!
	Okay, let's talk about the Ten Commandments.
	Let's not.
	I couldn't.
	See, that's, again, you know?
	That's where he went?
	That's, well, they were talking about the news story about how the Ten Commandments are now legally... Louisiana, yeah, I got you.
	What?
	It just shows that Steven is the kind of person that sees statistics or whatever and stereotypes and whatever And he just digs so hard into them instead of going a couple layers deeper on the onion.
	Just a little bit deeper.
	Remember the cul-de-sacs in the 1500s?
	Colonizers came to the United States and they moved into McMansions.
	Yeah, well he's acting like to be Native American means you have to be Like Amish.
	Yeah.
	Like you have to be like denying of technology because that's your heritage.
	Their heritage stopped there because we fucking stopped it there for them, like assholes.
	Like that's it.
	Their heritage continued, Stephen, and you just don't want to act like it did.
	Seems like he doesn't want them to exist if I'm being honest.
	Exactly!
	Yeah, this has like a real issue with Everybody that's not white.
	Everybody that's not white and that he doesn't know personally.
	And some that he does know personally, he's got a huge problem with I'm sure as well.
	Probably.
	This makes me really upset.
	Like obviously it all makes me upset.
	Every episode I listen to makes me upset.
	Yeah, you say at least it makes you upset once and people have made a drinking game out of it.
	Great, great.
	Ahoy guy, ahoy guy.
	Yeah.
	But it just, it makes me, it makes me upset because there's nothing that we can do to combat Steven.
	Because his listeners here are gonna see this and think it's fucking hilarious.
	Yeah.
	Because it's like a clown.
	It's like a clown honking its nose.
	He's not even a good clown.
	I know.
	He's a terrible clown.
	But it's like the clown is for the kids.
	Sure.
	Right?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	And that's it.
	That makes sense.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	I would say, Stephen's not gonna change.
	Oh no.
	But I would say if you see the way that he looks and you think that it's funny Just think about what you think is funny.
	Like, really evaluate it for a second.
	Think about who the victim of the joke is.
	Like, it's just... I'm sorry, man.
	It's okay.
	Well, we're not done.
	We can look at these cool contestants.
	Oh no, I forgot about this.
	You know, very popular show, Steven Crowder has here.
	Is that a child?
	Holy fuck.
	Jesus Christ.
	Fuck.
	Jesus Christ.
	Pump the brakes, buddy.
	For a show that claims to have, you know, hundreds of thousands of, I guess, episode
	views, we have about 10, 9, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 entries for LWC native content.
	Can we get more?
	And I mean we probably could if we had a contest, but I don't know what that kind of contest I don't know what that would look like maybe in the future next year.
	We'll have cultural Respect month.
	Appreciation month.
	Cultural appreciation.
	Why would I jump to?
	Stupid ass.
	Jesus.
	Actual appreciation month Yeah, I mean, we'll go to the top here.
	We don't need to call anyone out by name, but this person even made a bone necklace for her dog here.
	Her dog looks so upset about it.
	This is a child, for sure.
	This is eight.
	Yeah, why is this kid on here?
	Why is this kid?
	A little older, I would say.
	You think?
	I don't really know.
	More like 11.
	Okay, 11.
	Parents have dressed them up as a Native American loosely.
	It appears to be a tapestry of some sort.
	I don't know.
	Do you think our parents ever did this to us?
	I hope.
	I don't find a picture.
	Yeah, find a photo of us as children dressed up like that.
	I think my parents were pretty good.
	I went to an elementary school called Chief Joseph Elementary.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We had some questionable legends.
	We had Chief Sharlow as well over here.
	We have a Chief Joseph, don't we?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Can we see more of these?
	Yeah, so I'd say bad.
	Don't like that at all.
	Terrible.
	I'm just surprised at the ratio.
	Even the dog looks pissed.
	The dog is over it.
	Dude, that's fucking Scooby-Doo and he is angry.
	He's saying rut-row.
	And look at that wall, dude.
	That wall is a friggin... I saw this on a show and sponged my wall with white paint.
	Chip and Joanna Gaines DIY project.
	Yeah, it definitely is.
	Damn.
	Alright.
	There's sticky notes on the walls.
	I can't read them too bad.
	37.5% of these submissions are women and that is shocking to me.
	That is kind of interesting.
	I guess one child girl, but two women.
	Yeah, they're girls mostly.
	You think this isn't?
	Yeah, that's a woman who has painted her steed.
	The one that's kind of dressed up like, I don't know, Link?
	Her pony.
	Native American Link, I guess.
	Displaying novelty playing cards.
	There's a tomahawk laid out on a blanket.
	Is that just, I'm gonna put some stereotypes on a blanket?
	It seems like a blanket of stereotypes.
	There's a dreamcatcher.
	And wigs, yeah.
	Yeah, and poker chips.
	Hey!
	Piggy!
	What's that?
	That's a hey listen joke.
	Okay.
	Yeah, good one.
	Scrolling down we have I think that's an Elizabeth Warren.
	Yeah Is that the one with the Elon Musk?
	I didn't know Elizabeth Warren was at Davos interesting this this sucks too because this person seems to be visibly as normal as a person of our age range would be Yeah, they seem like you would catch them, like, reading a book at a cafe.
	Sure.
	And then you're like, oh shit, whoops.
	You look at the book and then you realize she's just hiding at the new MIA line of 5G blockers.
	Of course.
	Or pops open her laptop and it's Christian Mingles or something.
	Yeah.
	Well, probably the Boogaloo Boys Hangout, right?
	Oh, they have their own dating service?
	They got it.
	I mean, who else is touching those things?
	Great.
	Scrolling down we have another entry here.
	This is this is Matthew who has a turkey headdress Go go to that woman's page.
	I don't want to dig deeper into these individuals.
	I'm sorry You have to because we're talking about this the younger person Yeah, interesting doesn't appear to be this.
	Oh, we got multiple.
	I'm saying like go down further further From 2023.
	She's she's a Participating for a long time.
	She's got a little sombrero on her dog and she is a cop.
	She's a looks like she's part of the father thing She's participated mostly on Twitter.
	She's doing these contests.
	Yeah, that's what her tweet exists for Yeah, she's posting her louder than Crowder cups.
	This is probably worth a follow from our page if I'm being honest, man I don't know I'm logged in as a different account, but remind me later.
	Okay, and Great.
	I don't know if we need to go through all of these.
	We have a guy laying out on a poker table, drunk with wild turkey, I believe.
	That's not even a real ladder.
	That's not even a real mug!
	He printed on a picture of the mug.
	He put it on top of a mug.
	Interesting.
	Those are Trump playing cards.
	Trump playing cards.
	And he's playing with coins, not chips.
	Interesting.
	This guy's... A couple of bullets on the... He put the effort in, I guess.
	Is he dead?
	I feel like... I don't know, maybe?
	All right, well I remember people can't see these at home unless we I mean we might repost some of these on our Twitter at Van Crowder.
	Maybe that's a good way to let them know that we also see them.
	Sure!
	And this guy just...
	What?
	I'm not really sure.
	He's got like a hum, not like, what would we call this?
	It's like a fake ceramic art piece.
	A ceramic tribe of Native Americans sitting atop his ladder with Crowder mug.
	This is easily the worst one.
	Yeah, I don't know what he's doing here.
	This is a Goodwill sculpture standing tall upon his ladder than Crowder.
	Ladder with Crowder.
	I'm reading it and I couldn't even say it.
	This white-haired, white-beard, big CVS glasses guy.
	What, is he supposed to be like the baby on Teletubbies, like in the sun?
	He does call himself the Great White Father, which is interesting.
	Yeah, this whole thing stinks.
	I just think it's kind of shocking that this is the kind of entries you can get when you have a several hundred thousand person show.
	Yeah, eight.
	Eight entries, huh?
	And is there this last one here that I'm seeing with like the sort of looks like a real leather getup?
	What is this?
	This is just like an actual... In memory of my late brother Mike, would have been proud to say, you can take my land, but you'll never take my mug.
	And he's got a... This appears to be an actual Native American here.
	And he's got a mug tied to his belt.
	So, but it's honor the memory of his late brother.
	So this is maybe Mike.
	A real picture of a native kid named Mike who apparently is dead, but then his brother, his own brother, said, you know what would look good on that belt?
	A ladder with Crowder mug, flawlessly photoshopped on there.
	Damn, that's really... Miss you Mike!
	Rest in peace, Mike.
	This one's for you.
	I hope I win a lock of Gerald Morgan's hair.
	This is so exciting.
	And Nick and John are also both atop horses here.
	Nick and John are like the scales of effort.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I mean... Nick is just smoking a cigar on a horse with like a... Yeah, but he made a construction paper... His child made that on accident.
	Yeah, his child made it.
	It's looking like Harold and the Purple Crayon type of fucking drawing.
	Like he looks like a drawing from that book.
	You know what I mean?
	John won, obviously.
	Full body painted.
	Also painted his horse.
	I thought for a second it was Steven, if I'm being honest.
	Yeah, it is Steven.
	Looks kind of like him, yeah.
	And he on his page is reposting Harrison Smith clips.
	Sniffing that horse's ass.
	He seems to be fully, fully in it.
	Yeah, this sucks.
	But speaking of bad, live.louderthancrowder.com.
	We are going to be live streaming their live stream of a stream of the big debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
	I don't think you can call it the big debate.
	You just have to call it the big presidential talk.
	The old debate.
	The old debate.
	So there's a debate happening.
	Yes.
	They're streaming it.
	Yeah.
	You're watching that stream.
	Yeah.
	And then you're streaming that stream.
	To the internet.
	To your stream.
	Yeah, which is, again, live.louderthancrowder.com.
	Okay.
	Which we'll be doing that Thursday, which I believe it starts at 9 Eastern, which would be 8 Central, and 7 Mountain.
	Pacific?
	Six.
	Nice.
	Hawaiian?
	Not sure.
	Three.
	Wow.
	Pre-recorded, actually, for those guys.
	Wow, that's interesting.
	So we might be popping on early, but yeah, if you want to hang out with us there, feel free.
	I don't know if Dennis is gonna make it, but Jared and I will likely be watching a bunch of old people talk.
	Well, actually we'll be watching some middle-aged people talk about old people as they talk.
	True.
	And it's gonna be probably really bad and upsetting, and we might even get banned off Twitch because of the shit they say, which kind of sucks to think about.
	Maybe.
	Either way, that is just about all I can handle this week.
	Thank God.
	If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	Reach out to us on x at thancrowder, louder thancrowder.com, louderwithcrowder.net.
	Yeah, don't forget, rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
	I don't ever need to tell you that there's dipshits rating us one because... Oh yeah.
	So, I mean, if you want to counteract one of those guys, that would be really appreciated.
	I don't really care, honestly.
	I don't either.
	The rating doesn't bother me.
	No one ever looks at a podcast and says, it's got bad reviews.
	I'm not going to listen to it, you know, but yeah, I'm not going to say no to a five star.
	What I would like more than that would just be like a conversation.
	I want to hear what you guys think of our show.
	That would mean a lot to us.
	Louder than Crowder at gmail.com is our email address.
	If you have a shrug-clug tip, we still get emails from time to time from folks letting us know, confirming like birth locations of folks, which is really nice.
	Oh, interesting, okay.
	I was talking with a source who shared a potential training video from the first day at Louder with Crowder Studios.
	Whoa!
	It's pretty cool.
	Yeah, so I mean if you have a scoop or... Next week, our biggest announcement.
	Ever.
	We should start doing that.
	We're going to vote for Biden probably.
	I'm terrible at hyping folks, but I do appreciate you listening.
	That's all I'm getting at.
	I do too.
	Thank you guys so much.
	But until next time, I'm Byron.
	I'm Jared.
	And I'm Dennis.
	Take care.
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