EPISODE 31: WHITE ANGLO-SAXON PROTESTANT NATIONALIST (MAY 9TH, 2024)
Oh, boy. Brain-rotten Ann Coulter was a guest on Vivek Ramaswamy's podcast where she went zero to racist in an impressive 10 seconds. I take that back. She's even racist in her sleep. Either way, Steven has decided to derail the scheduled show to somehow interject himself into the "other N word" debate (nationalism). Two wrong takes can't both be right, Steven. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder With Crowder.
My name's Byron.
I'm joined today in front of me by Dennis.
I'm here.
And all the way from Occupied Texas, it's Jared.
Hello, everybody.
Hello, he says.
All right.
It's a normal way to say it there.
Hello!
Ooh, I figured out, I didn't know this, Ted Cruz is Canadian.
Is he?
You didn't know that?
Yeah, I didn't.
Ted Cruz is Canadian?
Yeah, Raphael Cruz?
I thought he was Cuban or something.
I think he is Cuban, but he is from Canada.
Cuban-Canadian.
Born in... What did we learn today, boys?
Were his parents, like, immigrants from Cuba or something?
You never assume.
Why do Canadians love America so aggressively?
I just don't get it, man.
I mean, Tom McDonald, Steven Crowder.
Ted Cruz?
Theodore Cruz.
Wow.
This week we put a dunce cap on top of a Klan hood.
It's immigration infighting between Vivek Ramaswamy and Ann Coulter.
Perfect.
She's the voice I need.
Yeah, well, she's speaking and she said that she wouldn't vote for Vivek because he's Indian.
Okay.
Stephen does his best to both sides the situation because, of course, they're all for discrimination with exceptions.
Yeah, well, it's called discrimination consent.
Okay, look it up.
Oh, interesting.
Learn it.
It's the May 9th episode of Louder with Crowder.
Very cool stuff.
I love cool stuff.
I've got something for you, Dennis.
There was a Rewind skit, which was a parody of the 2014 show Caesar 9-1-1, called Biden 9-1-1, which I originally thought was a Rescue 9-1-1 parody.
Oh, it was a Reno 9-1-1.
Well, that's fun, too.
It's about Caesar Milan.
He had a show called Caesar 9-1-1.
Oh, okay.
You know, the dog training guy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that is clever.
Even is training Joe Biden not to sniff people.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that is clever.
We're not listening to that.
Instead, here's a promo for a Mug Club exclusive program, The Funniest Man Alive.
Oh.
One of these.
Great.
As the IDF entered Raqqa, Hamas said it fired rockets at the Israel city of Sirat, near
Amr, and other areas near the Gazan border.
I still love that they have a border.
We don't.
The IDF confirmed that the missiles were intercepted by a defensive back out of Florida State.
Intercepted by the Iron Dome.
That was my nickname in high school.
In the shower.
What?
What is right?
Did you cut that together?
No!
That's another one of theirs!
What is it?
It's just a promo for Nick.
I thought I was having a stroke in the first half.
You remember the last one where Nick tried to promo his show.
This is just, this is what he does.
He wasn't saying words for a certain portion of that, right?
I mean they're words.
It's like when you look at one of those pictures but you can't identify a single thing inside the frame.
It looks like a stroke.
You know the AIs where you squint your eyes and you see a message?
It was just the opposite of that.
You shake your head left and right.
The harder I tried I understood less of what he was saying.
What terrible humor.
He's the funniest man.
I was called the Iron Dome in the shower.
That doesn't mean anything.
I don't even know what it means.
It's just he added in the shower like adding in bed to a fortune cookie.
Let's break it down.
We got a little bit more show to go.
I don't know if we need to break it down so much.
We'll think on it.
Yeah, let's think on it.
I'll come back to it.
Yeah, write it down so you don't forget.
We have to jump in quick.
That's called a rush ship rush... Cut!
It's a rushed sip because I just found out before going on air that we actually have two guests today.
We have the OG pedophile poacher Alex Rosen on the show and we also will have Vivek Ramaswamy.
So I'll bring up the rundown but it's not entirely relevant because this will probably veer off course quite quickly.
Oh no, we have to disrespect our guests and bloat the show.
Yay.
I think the most interesting thing about that, there's a big chunk where Steven critiques a drone shot of protesters practicing defensive position.
Okay.
And then Steven stands up and he's just like, here's how you stand in football.
But this is like that that's like 15 minutes leading into him like getting in front of the camera off mic basically.
Shouting from across the room.
He's standing at an angle on the carpet.
What position did he say it was?
An athletic position.
We had a high school gym teacher who loved it and he also used to always walk around during stretching and he would say, notice DA students are stretching.
He'd make sure that we were actually sitting.
We never checked the correlation.
That could have been bullshit.
Yeah.
I never checked grades.
It was interesting that Stephen thought that he needed to rush his sip to get the show rolling and then took so much time to talk about how protesters should be using it.
Imagine playing on a football team with Stephen.
I mean we are gonna talk a lot about Ann Coulter and Vivek Ramaswamy.
Vivek like cake.
Vivek.
Vivek Ramaswamy.
We'll be talking about the interview with Ann Coulter.
And Vivek, he's Indian.
Sure is.
I didn't know that.
But of course, Steven doesn't really have a horse in this race.
He seems to have personal relationships with both folks.
I had a lot of respect for Ann Coulter and Vivek.
Full disclosure, I've spent quite a bit of time with both of them at different periods of my life.
But I gained more respect.
Or they gained more of my respect.
Not that they care.
They're not sitting there going, I hope Steven Crowder respects me.
I thought it was a good interview even though they talked about race and a lot of people will say that it was white supremacy.
Yeah, that was Josh laughing.
No, I'm saying what was that terrible voice you did?
No, it was bad.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is his critics voice I guess, you know being on Fox News there.
Oh, that makes sense.
That's where he was hanging with Ann.
More recently he's been spending a lot of time with Vivek.
I guess that tracks, huh?
Okay.
But of course it is Military Appreciation Month, even if they don't really do too much for it.
Oh yeah, I forgot that it was.
They do mention it at least once every episode, and in this case, it's when they welcome in our semi-permanent third chair.
When you hear this, you know him, you love him.
He's not the guy who demands you thank him for his service.
Okay, it kind of bothers him, but I feel like I have to keep it going because I appreciate his service, but he's modest.
So thank him for his service.
You can follow him at jfirestein.com and his special American on Mug Club.
How are you, sir?
I'm good.
You can't steal my gratitude.
No, I can't.
You're right.
You're right.
And I'm grateful for it.
And I deserve it.
I'm doing good, though.
I had a pretty good day yesterday.
Am I allowed to... Yes, so Afro Man, because his flight was... He was late.
He was supposed to be on the show.
He was late.
And so you pre-taped a show with him.
Yes, we pre-taped a show.
We kept it very sober.
And yeah, got some good fashion advice.
Got some good rapping advice.
Yes, you did.
So watch out, rap community.
I'm coming.
Yeah, he's coming for you.
Yeah, in his shorts, maybe.
You don't need to watch your six.
First, yeah, it's always cool to thank someone even if they don't want it.
Yeah.
Repeatedly.
It's funny.
Make it about yourself.
That doesn't make me comfortable.
I'm gonna keep doing it because it's funny.
And I like it.
It makes me feel good.
Yeah.
I wonder if he does that with anything else.
Probably most things in his life.
Yeah.
Probably dicks on shoulders.
I think I've discovered in this episode that a lot of people do things specifically for themselves when it benefits them.
Yeah, well, it's just classic bully behavior.
It's like when the kid at school says, hey, stop talking about my so-and-so.
I want to talk about it even harder.
Yeah, of course.
I'm going to make fun of your shoes even harder.
I mean, it makes sense.
It's cool.
That's what the big ugly would do.
Do you think that aproman set Josh straight on, you know, what Colin response is?
See, the thing is, I don't know what happened behind the scenes.
We did get this interview with Josh and Afro Man.
I have heard it, and we are planning on talking about it a little bit later.
They're acting as if they meshed well, like they got along.
Yeah, we'll explore that.
Something for y'all to hold on to.
Yeah.
And they're certainly not good enough friends to be talking like this.
And also, funny, because he has a good sense of humor, I don't think he will mind, this actually happened.
He was supposed to be on the show yesterday.
Afro man.
First name Afro, last name man.
And he showed up late, and we always ask people who come in there, guests, we want to be good hosts, what is it you would like us to get for you?
Fried chicken.
So he showed up late, but brought his own fried chicken in addition to the fried chicken that we had prepared for him.
Well, his plane was delayed, to be fair.
Yeah, that was not his fault.
Not his fault at all.
To be fair.
So I get it, maybe he thinks, okay, they're on top of it, they're gonna have warm chicken for me, flight delayed, now the chicken's probably gonna be cold.
Ah, that makes sense.
So I better grab my own, because I don't want to be rude and have to say, no, give me something else.
Right, yeah, no, that's true.
It doesn't explain the...
Watermelon.
Just kidding, he did not.
He did ask for fruit punch Snapple, though.
That's pretty close.
He actually did!
He actually did!
You know, that's more of a palate cleanse from the Colt .45.
First name Joseph, last name Foreman, middle name Edgar.
Oh, really?
It's not afro and man?
No.
American rapper, best known for his novelty song, Because I Got High, released in 2000, but...
Jesus Christ, right?
I heard that he was also an excellent, uh, uh, UNO player.
Huh.
Cause I don't know if you, you saw him, uh, flip it and reverse it on them.
They hit him with their like brand of racism, but he brought his own chicken because he heard that they were preparing the chicken.
Yeah.
They're not going to do it right.
Yikes.
Yikes indeed.
And do you guys think that watermelon and fruit punch and apple are the same thing?
No, they were just trying to loop in another racial stereotype.
Yeah, we're racist.
Yeah.
They want to make sure everyone knows.
It's a racist thing, guys.
More racist things.
Yeah.
Add it to them.
I'd be really careful with that casual racism, especially you, Steven, because you, I mean, well, he wasn't even there.
He wasn't in the interview?
And you know what?
It was a lot of fun.
Gerald got to talk with him about faith, and I was not there because, well, I had a Ridley Scott creature growing inside of my stomach, but I think I'm mostly better now.
All right!
You need to take a vacation or quit.
Yeah.
Something's wrong with him every time.
Which reminds me, how are you guys sleeping?
That's a great question, actually.
Pretty well.
Because I've been very busy.
So when I hit the pillow, it lights out.
Done for, huh?
I've had the same.
Experience, I think.
When is bedtime?
It's bedtime.
It happens.
When we're busy bedtime, it's busy bedtime for this bro.
I've just not been getting enough sleep, I think, but I, in the same way, as soon as the head hits the pillow, it's like two seconds.
Man.
Five hours is all out of time.
Five, maybe five and a half, you know?
It's not working out good, no.
Yeah, I'm gonna sleep immediately after this until tomorrow at this time.
Yeah, 24 hours.
Just so everyone knows, it's about four o'clock.
It's about 4 p.m.
Wow, that's impressive.
So Steven wasn't there, wasn't part of the interview.
Gerald and Josh and Afro Man talking.
What a great combo.
Politics, religion, faith, I guess is religion, rap culture.
Gerald is probably the person I would say is a...
Let's say I wanted like the Neil deGrasse Tyson of hip-hop.
Yeah.
It would definitely be Gerald Morgan.
Oh.
Just wait to hear the backstory of his discovery and the tragic demise of his interest in hip-hop music.
So I heard about hip-hop when someone put on California Love.
You were so close!
I swear to God, you just fucking nailed it.
Ann Coulter and Vivek, they sat down and talked.
About a lot yesterday, but namely immigration.
And of course you're seeing people now discussing how this was racist.
Don't care.
Is that really his take on that?
Yeah, it's just a tongue fart noise.
Fart noise?
I don't care.
Racism isn't real.
I just was racist earlier.
That's real racism.
Yeah, if you want to see some real racism, that's how you do it.
Listen, 30 seconds ago.
That's it, he's just acting like they're not as good as he is.
Crack snuggles.
So we're gonna walk through a lot of this, but to relaunch Vivek's podcast called Truth, I don't know if you knew that.
No.
So he invited conservative media pundit and bad author Ann Coulter on the show to talk about the n-word, nationalism.
Oh, nationalism.
Okay, cool.
It caught a lot of media attention because, well, I guess the entire interview started with her saying that she wouldn't have voted for the Vague because he's Indian.
Oh.
Right.
Alright.
Later in the interview, she kind of doubled down saying that the core national identity is the WASP identity.
What's that stand for?
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
Okay.
And she believes that that is... The WASP way is you don't vote for Indians, is what she's saying.
I guess so.
That's the core national identity.
Yeah, her argument is that like minorities or like non-naturally born U.S.
citizens that are waspy, they're much more able to be bullied, I guess, so that what other people would want, I guess, other interests would want, they would have no problem folding to that.
Is that what they believe that non-wasps are?
Basically.
Everyone that isn't.
It's like, hey, listen, we know that there... Again, there's exceptions, but... Okay.
I mean, even Vivek can't be trusted to make American decisions for Americans, I guess.
Yeah, of course not.
Yeah.
So, quick Ann Coulter refresher.
Absolutely a consistent racist.
Okay.
But here are just a few examples.
She did an interview in 2015 on Fusion TV where she claimed the Mexican culture is deficient and said that, quote, part of the Mexican culture includes uncles raping their nieces.
Yeah, that Americans should fear immigrants from Mexico more than ISIS, saying, I have a little tip.
If you don't want to be killed by ISIS, don't go to Syria.
If you don't want to be killed by a Mexican, there's nothing I can tell you.
Oh my god.
Yeah, also made awful comments about Muslims in 2006 saying, I think our motto should be post 9-11.
She says a slur for Middle Eastern people.
Talks tough.
Again, that slur faces consequences.
And then, yep, there was an interview with Sean Hannity in 2016 where she scoffed at the idea of racism existing in America, stating, but unfortunately for liberals, there is no racism in America.
There is more cholera in America than there is racism.
Uh, something nice though, and no idea why this happened or how I forgot about it, she was part of the Comedy Central roast of Rob Lowe.
I do remember that.
Yeah!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As soon as I read that I was like, oh yeah!
Multiple comedians roasted Anne by calling her a racist and making references to her promoting white nationalism, and one comedian even called her a racist cunt.
Wow.
Pretty cool.
How was that?
I can't remember who it was, but I support them wholeheartedly.
Great job, guys.
Yeah, back to the top.
It started off... Pete Davidson.
Pete Davidson called right now?
It was Pete Davidson.
Of course it was Pete Davidson.
Oh, God bless that man.
I hope he's doing well.
I hope so.
It started off with Coulter telling Vivek that she agreed with him but could never vote for him, and this is something Ann Coulter does.
She'll say something that maybe would offend someone, obviously not Vivek, to then make her point, which was quite valid.
So, Ann, thanks for coming on, and I'm looking forward to our conversation today.
Me too, thanks for having me.
That was a fantastic opening monologue.
I too am a fan of yours, so I'm going to make a point of disagreeing with you so that it will be fun.
You are so bright and articulate, and I guess I can call you articulate since you're not an American black.
Can't say that about them.
That's derogatory.
And that was a great opening segment.
Lots of things to talk about there.
Oh, and I agreed with many, many things you said during, in fact, probably more than most other candidates when you were running for president.
But I still would not have voted for you because you're an Indian.
We'll get back to that.
Um, and it's directly related to what you were just talking about.
You know, the thing about nationalism, you're totally right, it is like, to use the word nationalism, oh it's Hitler, it's Hitler.
And, you know, Hitler had soup.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't have soup.
Okay.
This is in my head with like just listening to this with my eyes closed.
Yeah.
Vivek's like being fired from his job.
That's the tone that she just took with him.
It does kind of have that energy.
Yeah.
She's like doing the fucking the kids in the hall bit where she's like closing her eyes at him and just says you're fired on her eyelids.
Sure.
She's here telling him all these great things about himself but she just doesn't give a shit.
It's just not enough.
Yeah.
The whole idea of saying, I agree with you more than any other candidate, but I can't vote for you.
Does she vote purely with aesthetics?
I don't understand.
Yeah, if it was a white guy.
I'm surprised that he didn't say that immediately.
Be like, really?
You agree with me more than any other candidate?
Yeah, he's part of the leopards ate your face party, dude.
His balls just, he was sitting on them the whole time and he didn't want to.
Yowch!
I would argue that he has more clout at this point than she does.
Like, why didn't he stand up for himself?
And we don't need a root for anyone.
His face, though, in this interview, he was like, what the fuck did she just say?
Like, he definitely thought that.
He just let Ann fucking Coulter fucking let him be, in his world, a beta to her, you know?
She just sigma'd his ass and he said, Okay.
She does kind of have a stigma floating though.
That's interesting.
She does say whatever she wants.
She just fired his ass, laid into him.
You're a really nice guy, but you're a total piece of shit.
And the reason you're a total piece of shit is because you're not from this country Vivek.
Because it's something you can't change.
Great.
And though that he is, right?
He's born here.
Yeah, his parents came here.
And to her, she just said, you're not a wasp.
Like, there's no way.
You know, and to her point earlier about, you know, Mexicans are awful, whatever, whatever, whatever.
But they're like, 80% of Mexico practices like Catholicism.
Yeah.
The culture is much more conservative than we are, for sure.
But, you know, it's just like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
I'm Ann Coulter and I'm like I'm pointing the finger at you and the reason you're getting the finger pointed is because you are not white.
I really hated how she used the term American black.
Yeah.
Obviously disgusting but the fact that she puts black as the noun in that is just so demeaning to black Americans.
Oh yeah.
She's like saying that because she's like, I don't have to look over my shoulder to say this right now.
Because I know who you are.
She's just doling him out.
And Steven's right there supporting her saying this is just typical Anne, you know.
She's usually this terrible.
Be offensive and then make her point.
That's the Anne.
What was her point?
Her point was just he's Indian so I'm not gonna vote for him.
Her point was the racism in this particular instance.
And this is literally the beginning of their conversation.
Yeah.
They were kind of arguing, and here's one thing that I think people miss.
She was sort of making the case that American values are inherently tied to ethnicity and Vivek believes that American ideals are separate from ethnicity.
Both of them are correct in that American ideals here, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, it's not exclusive to any ethnicity, right?
It's not mentioned.
What Ann Coulter is saying, and she's also correct, is that ethnicity is a very strong indicator as to whether people will understand those ideals.
She's not saying it's because of ethnicity, but statistically it's very difficult to get around the fact that you do see clusters.
Right, you do see these vectors on a graph of, okay, these ethnicities, or people from these areas of the world, tend to reject the American ideals as per the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Does that make sense?
No.
What the fuck is wrong with Stephen?
I mean, this is Daily Stormer stuff.
That's like this.
That's like this.
Yeah, the Constitution applies to every American, but black Americans are too dumb to understand it.
That's basically what he's saying.
What a piece of shit take, Stephen.
Jesus.
I mean, obviously, American values are tied to everything that Americans do.
Yes.
American values are not something you define in a document anyway.
And it doesn't need to be a line that was drawn whenever you decide to draw it.
Yes.
I don't think Steve realizes that racism is an American value.
It used to be, man.
Wow.
This reminds me of a meme that I saw on Facebook.
This is going to be a great story.
I can't wait to hear it.
And it was just full of racism and I shared it with a friend and I said, do you think this is appropriate?
He said, yeah.
And he started spouting me all these stats about how like certain communities are more poor and illiterate or whatever.
Not even thinking for the fact that those statistics are the results of the way that we treat people.
Yeah.
And not the opposite.
That what he's saying is highlighting some serious issues within the way that we treat It's the same way we treat guns in America when you tell someone about gun violence and they say, yeah, most of it's suicide!
As if that's not something we should fix.
Yeah.
You know?
Cool shit.
Oh, man.
Steven is such a great guy.
Well, Gerald jumps in.
You want to hear that?
I would love to.
And I think Vivek brought some really good points in to kind of counter some portions of what she was saying.
But I think the problem that most people are going to have is that they're going to watch that clip alone.
Exactly.
And they're not going to go and watch the rest of what I think was a 30, 45 minute interview.
I can't remember exactly how long it was.
Right.
It does do a better job of kind of laying out the point of saying, I'm not going to vote for you because you're Indian.
Though that sounds bad on its surface.
I think it sounds like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
Because he's Indian, what are you talking about?
Well, it depends on his driving record.
That's my opinion.
Yeah, it was a full hour, unfortunately, and I did listen to it all.
And we will actually hear some of the clips from that that Steven omitted from this conversation.
You didn't do the whole thing in context?
No I didn't.
Okay weird.
But what she says and it does sound bad because it is bad.
Okay yeah yeah yeah.
On the surface, in the middle, and throughout.
One thing that I'll say is that um if you want something to like not be taken out of context don't begin the entire thing with the shitty Tough to say she didn't know that that would get attention.
You know, she's selling a book.
Of course she is.
She wanted to get attention.
I think she's very skilled at this full shithead media.
Yeah, she is.
Stupid, though.
Really dumb.
Yes.
So this is actually from The Truth Podcast.
Here's Anne discussing American identity as she sees it and wants it to remain.
There is a core national identity that is the identity of the WASP.
And that doesn't mean we can't take anyone else in, a Sri Lankan or a Japanese or an Indian.
But the core around which the nation's values are formed is the WASP.
We've never had a president who didn't have at least partial English ancestry.
Never.
We've only had one Catholic president.
Not true.
There was only one Catholic signatory to the Declaration of Independence.
They were all not only Protestants, but pretty much Presbyterian.
King George referred to the American Revolution as that Presbyterian War.
So there is a lot in the whole, in the freedom thing.
First of all, Joe Biden is also a Catholic.
John F. Kennedy was the first.
Second, why are we looking back to when George Washington signed a paper to determine how things should remain?
Because he was the founding father.
We should not do shoelaces, only buckles?
No, dude, he was a founding father.
Sure.
We should all have... Do you have a father?
I do.
Is he a founding father?
Probably not.
Yeah, then fuck him.
This guy's the better guy.
It just doesn't seem like a reasonable... Yeah, who daddied first?
Yeah, who was the first father?
George Washington, father number one.
Ann Coulter says, listen, he was Presbyterian.
We get my dad and George Washington.
This man wore other men's teeth, okay?
Yikes.
We've never had a president, they didn't have English blood, therefore...
Well, and here's the thing, is that there's Venn diagrams, right?
There's Presbyterian values, and then there's American values, and those overlap sometimes, in the same way that I breathe the same air Steven Crowder breathes.
Unfortunately.
Yes.
Which, I gotta say, the air quality down here right now has not been good the last two days.
Is it bad?
That sucks.
It should be clear that just because it was founded by Presbyterians, our country, doesn't mean that it should be a Presbyterian country.
Very clear.
Yeah.
Very clear.
We all agree that there should be freedom of religion, which means that you can't just say... I mean, you can't.
Obviously, she's allowed to say whatever she wants.
She can say whatever she wants.
But she's dumb as shit for saying what she said about Vivek Ramaswamy.
Of course.
But I don't think she really thinks that.
She is just using this as a way to I think she truly thinks that.
Continue addressing him down.
I think that she does.
You think so?
I think she's using it to get people riled up, but I think she truly believes she wouldn't vote for him because he's Indian.
Where does Ann Coulter, the personality, end, you know?
And at this point I have to assume, after thousands of years, this demonic entity.
There's nothing left behind the eyes.
Yeah, she is just who she is, you know?
Like, I don't think there's any separation.
Well, we're going to ignore all that.
Jumping over the racism, this is where Stephen decides to start.
So let's go to the first point that they discussed to clarify this, and it's centered around
the idea that immigrants don't always understand American values.
It's true.
Lots of our very best immigrants just do not understand the Second Amendment.
They do not get the First Amendment and you take polls of them.
You know should you have a right to to bear arms should hate speech be banned.
And it's it's noticeable that large percentages of immigrants and children of immigrants Really don't get that.
And I think that is the point of having natural born citizen only for president, that this is a really delicate thing we have, this freedom to bear arms and there being no such thing as hate speech.
And it's just an additional little safeguard.
Of course, you would say, well, that's not because of their race or ethnicity.
That is true.
Statistically, however, it is important to recognize the fact that, for example, Hispanic Republicans, meaning Hispanics here who, of course, legal immigrants, these are the stats we're using, references are available publicly, Hispanic Republicans are three times as likely to support gun control measures compared to non-Hispanic Republicans.
And half of immigrants actually view themselves as more global citizens than American citizens.
That is a statistical reality.
Now there is an exception if you dive into those.
Often Cuban Americans.
That's the big difference between people fleeing a government that has persecuted them, that they wish they could have fought off, they wish they could have overthrown.
So they tend to have a deep respect and revere the First Amendment and a better understanding of the Second Amendment.
You know, I'm with her here.
You know, I have a couple, uh, I have a couple immigrant friends and they asked me, Dennis, why do you need to have your pistol in your belt at that subway?
And I said, well, uh, if there's not double meat, they're getting double blasted.
Oh, wow, the American way.
Pew, pew, pew.
That's nice.
It's crazy that she's like, of course the immigrants don't understand because they don't realize why we have to have guns everywhere.
Guns and the First Amendment right to not talk hate speech.
I understand that the Second Amendment is like, to some people's core, like, you know, they will fight their last breath to save guns.
But really, you can't fathom why somebody from another country might say, do you actually need a gun?
That's a great question.
But also, more importantly, the demonic identification of being a world citizen.
Yeah.
50%, they said, are more likely to identify as a world citizen.
Apparently.
It's scary to think that someone wouldn't have 100% full allegiance in calling themselves not exclusively an American, but also a citizen of the world.
Yeah, it's not like people don't ever stop representing where they're from or anything like that.
I got that small town pride.
I wear my small town baseball cap when I'm out in the world.
I got this necklace with a star on my state where I come from.
It's like, you're not allowed to have pride for anything else.
Get the fuck out of here with that.
Yeah, you're an American first, everything else second.
There is no second.
There's no second.
There's no second.
If you're not first, you're last.
I've had these kind of conversations with someone and it's so interesting because like you ask somebody like, hey listen, Like, explain the borders to me.
Like, I was born on this side of it, someone else was born on that side of it.
Sure, yeah.
Why are we so deeply establishing, like, our foundations based on where we were born?
I also, I think it's interesting when people talk about American rights, right?
Like, these are my God-given rights, as if God is America's God and, you know.
Well, he's our God.
He only gave us rights and then stopped.
White, 6'4".
Yeah.
American God.
Yeah, he's definitely playing beach volleyball.
Digital beard.
Yes.
He's squared up for sure.
He's got the Jimmy Levee.
Jimmy Levee, Jesus.
Hey, I mean like, but listen, hear me out.
Jimmy Levee, voice like Jesus.
How about that?
He just dropped a new song as part of Michael Flynn's new film.
Michael Flynn's official soundtrack.
Did Michael Flynn sing on it again?
Michael Flynn.
Michael Flynn.
The film.
Michael Film Flynn.
Yes, I hope he did.
I didn't hear it yet.
It was beautiful when he sang.
Oh, jeez.
We just did a lot of dropping there.
But yeah, I think that that's a weird, unreasonable, I guess, conservative perspective to not expect people's views or opinions to change as cultures come.
Well, and our values aren't a result.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, like, to your point, when he's talking about, like, Cubans who have come over to escape the evil hands of communism.
Ugh, get in there.
Chill.
Uh, but you know, like, they're typically porting in Miami.
The culture of Miami is very conservative with, like, Cuban-Americans.
So it's just like, yeah, there's like a level of, like, assimilation, like, that people either take on because of their communities or they believe that or, you know, there's a myriad of reasons why that would happen, but just to kind of ignore, like, What is the cultural influence of these things?
Like, why do people believe this stuff?
I think, didn't he say something that conservative, well, like Mexicans, Americans, that they more support gun control than other groups?
Yeah, like 3 to 1.
At what point would you take somebody who is Mexican, and he lives in Texas, right?
Stephen lives in Texas, so you're around...
A lot of these people and that demographic, like, when does their opinion matter?
At what point does it matter?
Is it the first, like, first generation?
Like, when they come over the border, like, their opinion doesn't matter?
When does their opinion start to matter, I guess, is, like, what I'm trying to get at.
For Anne, it starts after third generation.
But only if you get a little bit of European in there.
As long as you get the blood in.
You gotta pour the water in the milk and then get that milk looking a little bit less cloudy.
Yeah, it's fucking awful person.
There's no reasoning to any of it or like how they're trying to actually take that on and so like These are the questions I want to answer, you know Well, it it's I think it's just it's dumb to think that we live by our values rather than we Define our values by the way that we should want to live.
Well, I died by my value I'll live and die by my values, dude I want to be able to say hate speech all day long and then blast people when they say no I And the shepherds will shall be for the Lord, for the power hath to send forth from thy hand that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.
What is that from?
That fucking Boondock Saints ass movie.
Fucking that bullshit.
I don't know.
It just has that.
I don't know.
It rings.
That energy?
It reminded me.
It reminded me of that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm here for it.
So we got another moment that Steven must have thought was a little too hot.
Here's Anne discussing her constitutional fail-safe preferences.
Who should be president, in her opinion?
Spoiler alert, it's white men.
And yes, take your point that this is, at least for this one position, President, you are looking at something other than just what the person actually believes.
But, you know, nobody really knows what a person actually believes, so why not have a fail-safe?
I want to hear you say it, and I'd also be more comfortable if you're third generation and have some English or, you know, British blood in you.
Yeah, I understood the view.
With his hands on his hips.
Okay, yeah, I get it.
I get it, yeah.
So you want me to be a little bit less dark?
Yeah, I can do that.
So yeah, because you don't know what people really mean, you default back to white men.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I don't know if I can trust it.
They could be in the Supreme Court.
Anyone can.
Anyone can, of course.
Weird, huh?
I don't know.
I'm not surprised.
I'm just disappointed.
I feel like when you know your girl's cheating on you and then you find out about it.
It still hurts.
It still hurts.
You knew it was coming, but it still hurts.
Yeah.
No one's surprised.
I guess we'll just jump back into the Louder With Crowder studio for a second point.
Good.
Point number two that they discuss here, and Ann Coulter's making the point that a lot of people who come from authoritarian governments, even if they are legal immigrants, and this is a valid discussion to have.
I think we can all agree, illegal immigration, send them back, build a wall, of course.
Then you also have the luxury of selecting, if you are the belle of the ball, which immigrants you want in your country.
I believe that that is a valid discussion to have.
And she makes the case that people who come from countries where they have been bossed around by their government and have accepted it, are more easily bossed around here and are more easily swayed by authoritarian arguments, big government arguments, than natural born citizens.
It isn't really true that that the seventh generation wasps are voting worse than than the immigrants.
One of the problems with with with the immigrants we've been taking in actually probably any immigrant but definitely 90 percent of legal immigrants come from the third world.
True.
They're used to authoritarian governments.
They block votes.
And every four years I have to hear about how, no, I think we're going to take the Hispanic vote this year.
I think we're going to get the Asian vote.
No, you're not Republicans.
Every election is decided by slight movements of the white vote.
Now, the fact that the white vote is that close, yeah, okay, I hate 50% of them, but they're the ones who, you know, change their mind and look at the different candidates.
It's much more easy to boss around people who've come from an authoritarian culture.
So that premise, the last phrase, that's true.
I can tell you this with Canadian American immigrants.
I have friends who are Canadian who are here and they still don't understand the Second Amendment.
And during COVID, they were the most willing participants in the experiment.
The experiment.
I fucking love that Stephen did not want to say that I'm Canadian.
No, he's got some friends that are Canadian.
That's so hilarious.
The whole time I was thinking Quebecois.
He's like, I'm a... His mom is French-Canadian.
Okay, but listen, did you not hear him say it in this episode?
He said he's from Quebec.
Did he actually say that?
Born in Quebec, moved to Michigan, and then... He said it.
He's born in Quebec.
He's a Quebecois.
Quebecker.
And hates the idea of dual citizenship.
We might jump into that in a second.
Either way, before we get too far away from this, yeah, maybe people leave authoritarian countries for a reason.
Sure.
Maybe that's why they're here.
And is she saying that they can be more easily bossed around here?
By people who have different beliefs than her, I guess, yeah.
By what she calls an authoritarian big government.
But then she implies that immigrant voters, now citizen voters, are less swayed.
That the elections are generally decided by shifting white voters.
She said it doesn't matter.
And Stephen disagrees because he's seeing the Latino vote shift.
Of course.
Only now does he care about Latino folks.
Of course, yeah.
Pretty cool stuff.
That's the theme of the episode.
Really cool stuff.
Cool stuff.
Yeah, I think that we can trust that people believe something because they believe it.
Anne and Stephen, they have a lot of skepticism for people's perspectives that are different or even the same.
Totally.
Especially when it comes to the values conversation.
Like, we can have beliefs around the values conversations.
Around the values.
Uh-huh.
You know, because I can say I disagree with that value.
We all have values, yeah.
So during the first Trump campaign, Anne pitched something to Donald, a simple solution to immigration.
Okay, what is it?
She's going to share this plan with all of us now.
This is back to the truth podcast really quick.
I offered, when I was speaking quite regularly to Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign, I told him he could get rid of the entire immigration apparatus and just send me pictures of every immigration applicant and I could decide them all with a picture before breakfast.
And how would you do that?
Mine would be better.
Oh, I'm a looksist, Vivek.
You're a what's that?
I'm a looksist.
So I want young, healthy, good looking.
Yeah, there might be a few who would slip through, but oh my gosh, it would be better than what we have now.
So she said there would be a few who would slip through?
Sure.
What does that mean?
Does that mean she might be a little thirsty for a Mexican man one day?
What is she talking about?
Yeah, she's leaving a little room for a crack in the window open.
Swipe right.
Let him in.
Yeah, I guess they do need to create an app for Anne that is a swipe right, swipe left type apparatus for this whole immigration thing.
Yeah, yeah, who can come through?
I didn't know that was, that's real.
Luxist is real, I guess?
Luxist is a real thing.
Is it really?
I think it probably just means you judge people by their looks.
I'm finding it on here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a wishful argument.
I think that everyone has that to some degree.
I mean, what do they say?
That's also the exact fucking reason we wouldn't just use pictures to the truth.
Of course!
Yeah, they say they say attractive people on average get shorter prison sentences.
Yeah, that's gonna show.
Yeah, like of course we all like we'll like see someone like oh, I I feel bad for this person.
This guy killed his girlfriend and I mean He's a man and he's killed her.
So maybe manslaughter?
Yeah, it's kind of hot.
Well, you guys all remember the one mugshot guy with the gorgeous eyes?
The guy who got out of prison and became a model, a professional model.
Restorative justice.
And also, they're constantly complaining about military-aged men coming across.
It just seems like where they might butt heads.
She wants them young, dude.
Young people coming in here?
Heck yeah, dude.
Fill up the clubs, dude.
I hope she's joking, though, about this whole idea.
There's no way that she actually believed that she could identify who should be let into the country.
I don't think she believes she could, but I believe she would if she'd want to.
I think that she probably thinks that she could.
This seems to be, like, I've seen it before and more conservative like older people where they're like Let me be the guy that like points out who these people are because I can tell you all the bad Yeah, I've been around the world and I yeah, yeah, I can point out a non-white basically This is not new I like I I've had some family friends I guess growing up and hearing this dumb-ass shit and I you know getting in a weird arguments that functions with these people
Family Guy chart?
Do you live in memes?
I don't know what this is.
It's the Family Guy chart.
Okay.
Hang on.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So it does show Peter Griffin wearing a fez, almost dressed up in an Aladdin kind of character.
And it's a swatch, a color swatch.
A color swatch, yeah.
Dark is bad and light is good.
That's basically, this is Ann Coulter's test here.
Oh, and people kind of meme with this.
There's lots of memes around it.
Shoot and don't shoot.
That's awful.
Yep.
But for Ann Coulter, it's just white and Indian and would you vote for them for president?
Wow.
Okay, yeah, I found a whole well of people doing their own here.
Yeah.
It's pretty bad, huh?
You don't need to look at this anymore.
We can do the next clip then.
But now people can come to this country with no education, with no skill set, receive welfare benefits, and they're incentivized to stay.
I came as a child actor.
That is a huge difference.
And I do believe that we are at the point where immigration policies, just like any other country, should be based on some kind of merit.
You want to come here?
That's not enough.
Everyone wants to come here and certainly everyone would want to come here if they can benefit from social safety nets that exist in the United States to which they are not paying in.
Who wouldn't want to come here?
Very, very different dynamic than, you want to come here?
Okay, fine.
You start paying taxes and you're not eligible for any of these social welfare benefits until an allotted portion of time has taken place and you have paid in.
Talks about these broad social safety nets.
And how, you know, people are coming over the border just to, like, immediately get on welfare.
Yeah, usually they go ship the food back, dude.
Suck on the teat of the United States.
Let's all go to the lobby!
Big happy smiley faces doing kind of like a cool, like, dance together over the border and right into the door of welfare services.
Coming out the other side with like diamond fucking necklaces on or something.
Of course, dude.
An iPhone.
They got three iPhones and a whole bunch of wine.
They walk in and they roll out on hoverboards.
Hey, they're only 13 pros, but you know, it's the best we could do.
It's not bad.
I hate that they also act like, when there's undocumented immigrants here, those people are not paying taxes.
They often are paying taxes.
Very often.
Be it local taxes, when they buy things.
If they are, like, using a fake social security card or something, they might be paying taxes on somebody else's name, maybe.
I don't know how it all works, but they definitely are paying taxes.
Not paying their fair share, probably, but I also would say that they're probably not trying to be triggered by the system by trying to get all of these benefits, like they say.
And oftentimes, those people are still being exploited.
Yes, of course.
Which is awful.
Like, think about all the companies that are hiring these folks.
Yeah.
If you want to stop illegal immigration, you can stop that.
It reminds me of, I had an old, like, coworker once who said that he got helped at the hospital after an illegal, he said.
I just asked him how he knew it was an illegal, and that was the end of the conversation.
That was all visual.
He probably has... He said I called Ann.
He's got the app.
Yeah, he has the app.
Through the newspaper up over his face.
It's a light meter.
Yeah, so I do want to clarify some things, though.
Like I said, he speaks so broadly of welfare and social safety nets, but he never, like, actually breaks it down.
Of course he doesn't.
The eligibility period for immigrants to receive welfare benefits in the United States, it varies depending on the immigration status and specific welfare programs, of course.
The lawful permanent resident, which is LPR, or what is known as the green card, The holders of that generally have to wait five years after receiving their green card before they can access federal means-tested benefits.
Yeah, so they come over and they're lazy for five years working really hard to make a living.
Five years after receiving their green card.
Okay, so five years plus.
So you spend, what, eight years before that?
Five years before that?
Yeah, we're talking like 12 to 14 years or something like that.
12 to 14 years of hard work?
Fuck!
Okay.
Until they get the opportunity to receive welfare like was it supplemental nutrition assistance program snap food
stamps temporary assistance for needy families, which is 10th
TANF, okay, or a Medicaid and other things like that.
However, I think this is probably what Stevens You got a dog going on over there
You hear that?
You've got the door shut and everything.
Oh wow.
It's okay.
We got her a pool earlier.
Oh fun!
And set it up because the deck has got a little sun spot on it that she likes.
So we put a little water in there and put it on there and Set her in there.
I was on one side and there's steps on the other side She fucking jumped out and she like keeps jumping off her fucking back feet got Like they hit the the top of the pool and she went ass over tea kettle down the fucking stairs And I'm like, oh my fucking god.
She has back problems.
Like I'm so I'm so stupid.
Why did I do this?
Wasn't thinking it through.
You just wanted to see a Frenchie do a cannonball.
I guess Yeah, from the water to the grass.
All right.
Certain categories of immigrants are exempt from that five-year waiting period, like refugees or asylees, which I didn't know was the thing, or victims of trafficking, stuff that Stephen wouldn't want to have any sort of government benefits or assistance.
He thinks if you're trafficked over here, send you back to Mexico.
I guess, yeah.
They can access benefits upon arrival or receiving their status.
Sure, sure.
I truly believe that the impact to our system is way overblown by the way.
A thousand percent.
Undocumented immigrants and non-immigrant visa holders, like tourist or student visa holders, are generally ineligible for federal public benefits.
But he never talks about that.
I always eat food stamps when I travel.
You don't do that?
No, you don't go into a country and apply immediately?
I do.
For welfare?
Usually it's like, I check into a hotel, then I go down to the welfare office.
Wait around, do a bunch of paperwork.
This is my vacation.
One thing, I mean, I'm a student.
One thing that I do want to highlight though, thank goodness, some states use their own funds to provide assistance to immigrants during the five-year waiting period for federal benefits in the cases that they need it.
Remind me what state it is so I don't move there.
I don't have a list in front of me, Mr. Racist.
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry about that.
Certain programs though, like emergency Medicaid services, immunizations, disaster relief,
and K-12 public education are available to all immigrants regardless of status.
I never even considered K-12 public education as like...
As a service.
It is, you know, but I would hope that we educate whoever needs education.
I love that about that.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to clarify, you know, Stephen in his blanket anti-immigrant rants.
I just wanted to...
Immigrant is, tries to close door behind him, is all that I'm hearing him say.
And of course, after he got through the door, it's the immigrants, the only immigrants that matter to him are the ones that can serve his interests.
Donald Trump lost President Trump by 10,000 votes approximately, 10,500 give or take, okay, in Arizona.
500 give or take, okay, in Arizona. He had 37% of the Hispanic vote. Okay, 37% of the
Hispanic vote.
Now in nationwide polling, Donald Trump actually wins a Hispanic vote, but specifically if we go to more in Arizona, and it oscillates, but the lowest that we find is President Trump now getting 46% of the votes.
So we had, okay, 10,000 votes decided it.
37% of Hispanics voted for Trump in 2020.
it, 37% of Hispanics voted for Trump in 2020. If 46% of the Hispanic vote in
Arizona vote for Trump, that's a hundred and seven thousand more votes than 2020.
He lost by 10%.
That 9 point swing, 107,000 more votes in Arizona.
Boom.
Wins Arizona.
We've gone through states before.
You can do it in Georgia.
You can do it in places even like Pennsylvania.
If you look at the margins with the black vote.
With all immigrant votes.
What she said was correct.
Until the fundamental shift that has taken place in the last two years.
I say that bringing tidings of great joy.
Yeah, he's bringing also that when we talked to, we talked about Afro Man, we talked to him about this.
He's bringing the black community along with him in a very large way, significant way.
He's not going to ever win a majority of it, but he doesn't have to.
You just make some moves like what you just talked about, there was a 9% change in the Hispanic vote.
That was it.
You don't have to change it by miles, you just change it a little bit, and Democrats have a very hard time winning elections.
Now, that has to happen at the voting booth, so we have to see that, but he's doing a great job there, so I'm not sure why Ann Coulter's not seeing that and also saying, hey, that's great, that's improvement, and just focusing on the white vote, because that, for me, can get into like, okay, we're just gonna get rid of the black vote, the Hispanic vote, the Asian vote, the anybody else vote, let's just focus on white people.
People can very easily attack you there.
He listened to the Sankilter conversation.
He had the conversation with Afro Man.
Both people, he didn't understand a fucking single thing they said to him.
No, not even close.
And he really, he forced it hard with the Afro Man.
That that's nuts.
Yeah, he's like he's taking the black vote with him because the spoilers he's running for president I guess I thought I heard that there was a fourth candidate next to RFK and man Maybe it's just because he used his legal name.
I don't know afro man, but okay also what I wanted to throw in here is like have you guys ever seen the the classic Scott Steiner math promo No.
What is that?
I almost want to be like, can you just like plug it in right here?
Of course.
This is Steven Crowder doing math.
You know, they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at small Joe, and you can see that statement is not true.
See, normally if you go one-on-one with another wrestler, you got a 50-50 chance of winning.
But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal.
So you got 25% at best at beating me, and then you add Kurt Angle to the mix?
Your chances of winning drastically go down.
See, the three-way at Sacrifice, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning.
But I, I got a 66 and two-thirds chance of winning, because Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me, and he's not even going to try.
So, Small Joe, you take your 33 and a third chance, minus my 25% chance, and you got an 8 and a third chance of winning at Sacrifice.
Exactly.
Dumb guy math.
Take my 75% chance of winning, if we used to go one on one, and then add 66 and 2 3rd
percent, I got 141 and 2 3rds chance of winning at Sacrifice.
Exactly, dumb guy math.
Yeah.
Wow.
Just saying.
It reminds me of during the primary when Bernie was definitely out, but there were all these articles being like, here's how Bernie could still win in a surprise show.
Yeah, here's his path.
I mean, we're all hoping.
Yeah.
Like I said though, I mean, immigrants only matter to Stephen and Gerald when they can use it to win an election.
They don't really care about what... They are so like... Not immigrants.
Minorities.
Sure.
And they're so out of tune with how much even undocumented immigrants help their daily life.
They play a huge role in our economy.
It's fine to admit that.
And they're also they're humans still where we can treat them like humans.
Uh huh.
Yep.
We're allowed to.
I think.
I don't know.
Check the app.
Let's hop back to the Truth Podcast one more time and see what she has to say.
Slavery was such a drag on this country.
Thank God the North won the Civil War, which of course they were going to.
I mean, it's like Israel versus Gaza right now.
Not that I'm comparing Southerners to these bloodthirsty Hamas types, but Whoops.
She's not comparing the South, the people that we went to war against, to bloodthirsty Hamas.
Yeah, come on.
I mean, we didn't beat people and hold them as slaves.
Imagine being like the whitest lady in the world and being like, slavery was a bit of a bummer.
A drag.
It was the worst.
I'm really glad that's over.
They're bad, but they're not as bad as Hamas.
Yeah, no, not as bad.
Not at all.
No, no, no.
You can't even compare them.
And we're gonna take that as the gospel.
And Coulter agrees that we couldn't have gotten as far as we have as a country without slavery, but doesn't really want to look back on the damage that it's done.
Of course.
America couldn't have been built without slaves.
No, it has been a black mark, I mean, especially morally, on this country.
That's an interesting thesis.
And it began and it began for the same reason.
We're bringing in masses and masses of third world immigrants
because the rich want cheap labor.
That's an interesting thesis.
So you think that that's actually the real guiding force behind modern immigration policy?
For the Republicans and the Republican donors.
Oh, they love their cheap nannies and butlers and chefs.
For the Democrats, and I really want to stress this, you are absolutely right.
They just hate America.
I mean, not all of them.
Some Democrats are just idiots.
Which one do you guys think we are?
Are we idiots?
We're dumb as hell.
We cop to this all the time.
Dumb as hell.
She's raw dog in reality though, you know what I mean?
I don't think she's on pills or drunk in this interview.
High on her life.
Yeah, she is high on life and she is just fucking... High on strife, dude.
This woman is hard to listen to for this long.
Yeah, it's wild.
But also how like how fucking weirdly diplomatic he's still trying to beat her.
Oh, that's an interesting position.
He's the worst fucking interviewer I've ever heard.
He's not good.
Come on, man.
He's fairly articulate in debates.
However, This guy, if he can't handle Ann Coulter, he's not gonna be able to be the President of the United States.
Not at all.
Imagine a serious leader with power pushing him around, it'd be terrible.
Stephen made fun of him for having a weak stream the other week.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, he did do that.
A weak stream?
Yeah, because he peed during a live stream with Elon Musk on X. And Stephen told him that he needs to get some kind of, like, strengthen your wee-wee up.
Supplementary boosters?
Yeah, something from Alex Jones's online store.
Is that like an electronic stream booster for like getting your Disney Plus going better?
Holy cow, can I get that?
You could if you want to.
This is an interesting take because whenever people talk about how like we couldn't have become the country we are without slavery.
A true statement.
It is a true statement.
But then she stops her thinking right there.
Right there, she's done with it.
She's like, well that means it was good.
It's over, but it was good.
Well, I guess she is kind of saying it was good, but you know, I mean, it's over now, but it's good.
She talks about how rich people want cheap labor and she acts like that.
Is that a problem with the rich people?
Is that what she's saying?
Cause it, it is right.
It is a problem that huge companies want to hire.
Yeah.
They, they support people who are here legally.
And then those folks who are here, there's a huge power dynamic because of that.
So is she voicing, we need to, uh, There's an ambulance in Jared's house.
Is she voicing that we need to end companies hiring undocumented immigrants?
Is she arguing that?
It's a solution to her problem, but she's not arguing that.
It doesn't seem like it.
It doesn't seem like she's honestly looking at the reality of slavery or the idea of immigration or migrants at all.
I think her head is just for decoration.
Huh, interesting.
Well, we got one more clip here because So the point that I wanted to discuss here is, uh, you made a- and I think that I agree with you.
I agree with almost everything that you both said, but- I couldn't stand listening to Steven try to both sides this with Vivek on the line.
I like Anne and I like you and you guys are both like saying stuff I agree with even though they're completely opposite opinions.
So she says that you are an Indian, so you wouldn't be a good president.
You're saying you are an Indian and you would be a good president, so I agree with both of you.
I kind of agree with both of you in this case.
Yeah, I mean, because you are an Indian.
She's not wrong.
And you could and can't be president.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Curious.
Yeah, he's like, I have the same position as Anne.
You're eligible, but I will also not be voting for you.
I agree that you are eligible with you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just, you know, Steven's stuck on the fence, you know?
After the interview with Vivek, which isn't worth listening to, we hop on the line with predator poacher Alex Rosen to discuss the can-and-can't-do's of poaching, because he's a... Is that what he calls it, poaching?
Well, yeah, that's what... It's like what Chris Hansen does, but he's like more right wing.
21st century.
Honestly, kind of scary.
Towards these people, which, again, I mean, yeah, they deserve it, I guess.
He's like a big, imposing guy.
I think I saw a video where he, like, was talking to some guy outside of a truck and was like, did you watch baby porn accidentally?
Yeah.
He's like, yeah, I did.
He always gets them to say they did it accidentally, calls the police, and then flips it, gives over all the evidence.
I mean, yeah, they deserve it.
They're doing crimes, really disgusting crimes.
However, the way Alex Rosen likes to do it is he makes the situation so distressing that I think two times people have tried to kill themselves like in the middle of his encounters.
Sure.
Yeah.
And he's probably not approaching these, like, confessions in any legal sense, of course.
Well, that's actually one of the criticisms he has in this episode is Bradley Martin, I think is his name, and Vitaly, two YouTubers, tried to do something similar to this by doing things wrong, by, like, not documenting, not getting proper evidence, and then physically blocking.
Yeah, and then beating the shit out of them while they are confronting them.
That they're doing what Alex is doing in the wrong way.
Sure.
And I would argue that maybe just police should be doing this kind of stuff and people don't need to be like making a TikTok career out of predator poaching.
Hey guys, I'm doing a new unboxing with this predator I just found.
Yeah.
It's weird.
It's such a weird split thing because vigilante justice is really never appropriate.
It causes problems.
Yeah, it causes more problems.
The fallout of that is usually pretty bad.
You also, like, want these people to be brought to justice, so if you're gonna do it, I guess do it the way that the guy on here does it, where he's actually getting these people arrested.
Yeah, there's some follow-up, and we can't always rely on the police, you know?
There was the one guy that we saw on the other show who got fucking shot over and he died from Detroit.
Yeah, it doesn't matter how big and imposing and like correct you are in the situation people are volatile and people like that are like, you know, obviously have issues maybe wouldn't have You know a problem like pulling the trigger on somebody to get themselves out of that or you know, whatever physically harming them but You know, at their own risk, I guess that's like what they want to do.
I'm like a little bit like, eh.
I'm kind of, yeah, somewhere in the middle on that too.
I don't know how I feel about it.
Financially benefiting from doing this is maybe not an ethical thing to do.
Yeah, it totally does.
It's like, oh, my lead's dried up.
I guess I have to... I gotta find more perverts.
Yeah, a lot of perverts to track down.
Yeah, obviously, like, that's the wrong reason to be doing it, for the clout.
Especially when your name is... Is it Predator Poacher?
Is that what he goes by?
Alex Rosen.
But yeah, his thing is Predator Poachers.
It's just, yeah, I mean, chasing it for clout is not a good thing.
Like, obviously police should be able to handle this, but also, you're putting investigations at risk.
What if the things that you get cause problems for investigations of actual police?
What if there's an active investigation that you're in the middle of now?
Totally.
Yeah, yeah.
It's gonna cause problems.
That's not the right way.
Well it doesn't matter because Stephen in pushing this interview back left Alex with about nine minutes to talk and they just kind of briefly discussed this situation with the two YouTubers getting in the way.
Not really worth talking about but I imagine Stephen has approached Predator Poachers in the past as part of a Mug Club investigation thing.
I think that he's trying to make some sort of collaborative Hunt.
So we'll see Alex at some point in the future.
But yeah, that's where I ripcorded from taking notes.
Not enough meat for me to continue.
So I jumped over to the Afro Man interview.
However, looking at the clock now, it seems like we don't have time to... well, maybe... Should I start with a tease and then we'll return next week?
Here's what we should do.
Here's what we do.
I say complete nonsense bullshit.
You put Nick DiPaolo's music over it and we just play that.
That's kind of cool.
That's what we would do.
Squiggly, squaggly.
And then I was like, hey, yo!
The funniest man on the internet?
I'm looking at these guys.
You know what I'm saying, Rick?
Pull it up on the big screen.
Let's give them a little bit of Gerald intro to what we're going to be talking about next week.
Good morning.
We have a special episode for you today featuring a hip hop icon, you could say.
And I know this kind of falls outside of our normal lane a little bit, but I think you're really going to enjoy it.
Probably going to laugh a lot.
And if it's the evening for you when you're watching this, Maybe open a Colt .45.
Why not in the morning?
Why would you have a Colt .45 in the morning?
You can put some orange juice in there.
Brass Monkey, yourself awake.
Is that what it is?
Colt .45 and orange juice?
No, that's Mickey's and orange juice, but... I don't know how he drinks.
Gerald's a wine guy, it doesn't matter.
What's wine and orange juice?
It's a mimosa.
That's no, that's champagne.
But could you do it with white wine?
That's what I don't drink.
You can make a wine margarita, so why couldn't you make a blood orange wine margarita?
I've heard of people having Coca-Cola and red wine.
Yeah, that's I think a French thing.
Yeah, it's called mochi coro or something.
Looking forward to that Afroman interview.
It's going to be a good time next week.
Yeah, I love it.
To wrap things up, what did we learn?
Well, I learned that Ann Coulter prefers white men to be president.
Strongly.
If this was a 1 to 5 scale, strongly agree.
And she can tell who's going to be a good immigrant just by looking at them.
Yeah, she can.
I think we learned a bit about Vivek as well today that he has zero spine and he's willing to let people just spit in his face and push him around and even if there's someone as dumb as Ann Coulter is he doesn't have his whole premise is that we need to like lockstep together in order to like win this thing yeah and and his just totally flopping on being able to like get any kind of like Stand by my side here Ann.
She just she finger pointed at him and then Flicked him out of there as if she was a booger on the end of it.
He's gonna make an excellent vice president I didn't know the truth was a fetish podcast for Sadomasochists.
Interesting.
Good point.
This is a dom situation for sure.
Dommed hard.
Oh damn.
What did you learn?
Honestly?
I don't, I mean not much.
Nothing.
I'm looking back at my notes.
Nope.
I remembered that she was part of that roast.
That's kind of nice.
Oh yeah, that's great.
That is a, that's worth going back and checking out.
I need to rewatch it.
I don't have seen it and I remember being like, man this lady's getting torn apart before I knew who she was.
I don't think I knew who she was then either.
I wasn't terribly politically active at that point.
It's Bill Maher's ex-girlfriend.
That's about all I can handle for this week.
If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
Or don't, because we won't.
Excuse me?
That makes way less sense to me.
Well, have you seen him lately?
Lately he's getting pretty anti-woke, yeah.
That's about all I can handle for this week.
If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
Or don't, because we won't.
Excuse me?
I said or don't.
We won't be convinced?
I can't be convinced.
Nothing will convince me.
I'm kidding.
I can be convinced.
Call me.
You seem really serious American stuff leaking in.
Yeah.
Wow.
But yeah, until next week, we're going to be hanging out on X at then Crowder, louderthencrowder.com, louderwithcrowder.net.
I see a picture of that screaming dog there.
Just get us some more followers on there.
You're gonna see a different dog that doesn't scream, but does play with toys sometimes.
Licks a lot.
All of her face reveal at 200 X followers.
So yeah, follow us there.
I guess we should say the mod of our unofficial Reddit community got banned.
So if anyone wants to maybe start them.
Can you just pick up?
Can you?
I tried.
You can't just take it over?
No, not that I saw.
Alright, so if someone's not louder, underscore than, underscore Crowder, two.
Two, or just louder than Crowder, one word would be cool too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you feel like it.
Yeah, we're not gonna, we're not gonna start our own subreddit.
No, definitely not.
If anyone wants to pick that up, feel free.
But until next time, I'm Byron.
I'm Jared.
And I'm Dennis.
Take care.
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